/dsg/

Are builds like str/faith or dex/int worth doing yet?

>>158181730

Someone?

>use irithyll rapier against dragonslayer because he's apparently super weak to frost
>only procs twice and the damage is half that of bleed, doesn't lower his stam because he's a boss

thanks for the shithouse advice

Is Priscilla in the dlc?

i wanna touch her tail

>>158181978
do dex int

>cmw quills/ lothric knight sword and sellsword
>new dlc scythe

>>158181978
friede's scythe is insanely good for dex/int.
there's also the new spell snap freeze but if you're only doing duels it isn't worth it.

what is the best infusion for the red hilted halberd?

Is it possible to ever make Dancer's Enchanted Swords viable?

>>158182012
No but she had a child and that means
she is no longer pure

>>158182202
What if it's yours?

I haven't kept up with the game much, how long is the DLC?

>>158182083
Not him, but I've never done a Dex/INT, in fact I've never used magic in a Souls games besides Iron Flesh for the 4 kings
How do I go around the DLC scythe? does it actually use Int or it is just to be able to use the weapon art?
Should I invest in STR if I also want to use 2kat and some others? Maybe 20STR/40DEX/20INT ?

Is it still possible to savescum trade dupe souls?

>enemy version of Earth Seeker WA is a ranged attack that tracks you and explodes under your feet
>player cast version is just a shittier firestorm that erupts in front of you
They can't keep getting away with this.

>>158182083
>>158182152
What would a build for that look like?

>>158182274
4 hours.

>>158182169
No. Low base damage, D scaling in four different stats, three different damage types. There's no way to make it not shit.

>>158182451
that's being very generous

>>158182274
Depends
Do you have a broken tryhard character like 95% of /vg/?
it's like 4 hours or so

That said, remeber that this is an area that you are supposed to go into after beating Deacons. not a late level area, even said that the Viking enemies are though as fuck

Is gargoyle flame spear any good for a quality build? also, does anyone have one they are willing to drop for me on ps4?

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>>158182376
probably something around this.
if you want it to be level 120 you can use the scholar/hunter's rings.

>>158182525
there's a dev message that tells you to do lothric castle first

>>158182547

Yes, it's the longest spear in the game and benefits well from a quality build due to scaling.

Four-Pronged Plow is the longest pure physical spear though if you want that and has second highest pure physical ar.

>>158181874
Why does she have a bulge?

>>158182547
I have one, where do you want to meet?

>arena starts both players so close to one another that you can't even safely cast a single buff without being punished or duelcharmed
RIP anything but quality builds. Miyazaki really doesn't want anything but quality in his meta

>>158182547
I think I've got one on Ps4, you got a high value soul I can have in exchange?

>>158182347
>greatmace WA is just perseverance
>vordt's GH is just perseverance

>>158182376
probably base str/ fai to use the weapon, 40 dex and enough int to use cmw or even 40 if you're sl120

>>158182575
It's a good thing you had 100 levels on him or it might have been dangerous!

>>158182525
fuck you anon you're dumb it's post lothric

>>158182637
how about anor londo?
password is GARG

>>158182693
>>158182618
welp then
The enemies feel to weak then

That said with the amount of enemies coming at you here it would be hell if they were though

>>158182694
Sign is down

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>>158182673
buddy, you're about to see me rape the same poor guy at SL120

you have literally no excuses desu

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>base damage before lloyds = 255
>reach 340 with wolfcurvedsword and pontiff rings

shiiiiiiiiiiiit
gonna try combo not-lloyd to death

>>158182637
oh yeah, and make sure it's a red sign please.

>>158182525
dumbass
they said sl80 with a maxed weapon

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What's a decent amount of poise to have now that it's useful?

how would I CE in the DLC armor and spells. regular item swap doesn't work

>>158182376
Depends on what sacrifices you're going to make, definitely going to make sacrifices in either HP/Stamina or damage. Honestly hybrid builds are fucked in this game.

>>158182589
why 18 vit

>>158182848
60
anything less does nothing

>>158182848
depends on what you're fighting against

46 poise will keep you protected against UGS swings

36ish poise will protect you against GS swings

I'm retarded and can't into estimates. How would the average souls player fare with the DLC on NG+ @ SL 120? I just want a nice healthy challenge from the DLC.

>>158182848
like 40+ or bust

which dlc weapons are buffable?

>>158182848
Look at the previous thread, it was all reposted there.

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Thanks man

My PS4 just said it downloaded the DLC but guy is not at Chapel. What gives? Have I been trolled?

Anyone one PS4 not doing shit and wanna scum some souls for a bit?

All I've got is [/spoiler]crestfallen knight souls though.

>>158183009
pre dlc patch, releases tuesday

>>158182974
dlc isn't that hard at all, most enemies can be stunlocked just like everything else. the ones that can't can usually be visceraled

>>158182990
only the milwood battleaxe and the crow talons

that's it

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>>158182954
>stuck with 31 or else I have to completely redo my dex/int build
So much for that.

Remember when we were hoping that the DLC might be threaded throughout the base game, and make it less linear?
Do we want to double down on the idea for DLC 2?
Six months for one snow area and a couple of bosses.

>>158183009
preload

Duelists in the arena don't even spawn in at the same time.
You're spawn-in is based on when you finish the loading screen, meaning there's usually a ~1 second difference even on consoles. You can gain full control of your character, buff and move around and do whatever before the other guy even spawns in.

That's fucked

>>158183031
it actually releases tonight because bamco fucked up and gave it to xbox early

>>158183076
Unless your weapon has HA poise is useless to begin with.

>messing around with stats on mugen for DLC stat optimization
>my optimized Friede's Scythe build is best done on Deprived or Pyromancer

Neat.

post list of viable builds post patch and dlc

>>158183120
The fuckup was Microsoft's, not BAMCOs.
This same thing happened with the main game release and it was Microsoft's fault then too

>>158183089
Well, the DLC is placed right at the first branch of the game you see (outside of the Dancer) and there's large titanite shards in it, so I guess it helped a little.

>>158183168
either or, it's being released at midnight tonight as a result, so we get it a day earlier than intended as well.

>>158183204
>it's being released at midnight tonight as a result, so we get it a day earlier than intended as well.
Source?

>>158183147
post it

>>158183168
>>158183204
>>158183120
being Pc is suffering

>>158183204
nah, they released a statement only like 10hrs ago
ps4 release is the same, pc is 6hrs earlier

>>158183031
>>158183092
Well fuck me silly with a washing pole

What Dark Souls II (SotFS) did RIGHT

>Power Stance
>being able to be invaded while hollow
>poise

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>>158183141
Well guess it's for the best then friede's scythe is already strong enough. not getting stunned out of basic attacks would get pretty broken.

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>>158182871
help

Do the Crow Quills drop off of a certain enemy?

>>158183356
even the infamous double chug was more punishable than ds3

>>158183202
One extra path that presumably just transports you in and out. I'm still reserving judgement, but DaS3's world design is so bland right now, and I don't really think it's possible to fix with just one more expansion.

>>158183386
http://pastebin.com/wpFCaPK0

>>158183402
There are no weapon drops in AoA
Everything is loot.

how is the garg spear for PvE anyways? or is it one of those PvP only weapons

>>158183356
has content
left hand full movesets
wasn't shit

>>158183407
shortcut from demon ruins to profaned capital/ remove archives key
allows you to skip cathedral completely and gives you a reason to tackle dsa early

>>158183356
>poise
If it's not DeS-style hyper armor then it wasn't done right. DaS2 did have a lot of spell variety though and introduced a lot of small quality of life features.

>>158183235
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/100512

You can get this with Pyromancer at the exact same SL though. But looking at it more you can get away with this two levels lower with Deprived if you just want to two-hand the scythe since it starts with lower Strength then Pyro at 121. You can easily get that down to 120 from a point off anything, there's just enough room in this to make the scythe perfect for that level range.

Plus you don't need 40 INT at all if you're not planning on using the stance much so you can get this down to the level 80 range easily or even lower with 40 DEX alone.

>>158183474
Is...is that actually in the game, or is it something you'd like to see?

>>158183440
ah damn, thanks senpai

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>>158183441
pretty low damage for pve and its' split damage too
regardless of if you're quality or pyro there's way better options

>>158182916
Was messing around with poise you can ignore that

https://my.mixtape.moe/ozwvrv.webm
loving these guys using these trash dlc weapons, their movesets are cool

>>158182848
>>158182954
It depends on what you're using too.
Poise basically just prevents X% of Poise Damage, and the actual important number is the super armor of the weapon you're using. Say you're using a Stomp weapon, you'll need less poise than someone using a Charge or Neck Swipe weapon.

Poise damage is all here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HAnf7IjvUMH20VINaDfqP4ORAlzCSIiBWFK6EbPTgGc/edit#gid=0

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How to access the DLC?

>>158183581
Does holding the bellvine buff your cast speed with the pyro flame?

>>158183441
I think it will wreck the dlc. Hell it will wreck the entire first half of the game because fire damage shits on everything before skellys except that one black knight.

>>158183356

Challenge mode(no dying, no bonfire usage) rewards

NG++ Content that actually mattered(like bosses changing, and gated content)

Viable weapons in each category

Estus flask shards

Lifegems and healing consumables

Being able to be invaded after a boss dies.

Being able to respec

Being able to change your gender.

Less obtuse crow trading system that didn't require you to quit the game.

>>158183356
>Power Stance

Powerstance was pretty bad, really. It was almost never more efficient than just two-handing one weapon in terms of stamina usage vs. damage, all the "good" Powerstances were either unintended glitches or patched shortly after, it made you waste twice as much weight in your equipload, and you spent twice as many upgrade materials and souls in a game that actively punished you for spending extraneous souls.

>>158183774
yep

frees up a ring slot so you can stack 2x pyro ring/ clutch and lloyds sword
killed champ and dsa with only a +6 flame and it was pretty easy

>>158183526
just a suggestion to make progression less linear

>>158183679
not yet

How do I get my name change to stick in CE? I still can't get it to stick, it instantly reverts and refuses to change.

45int 45fth, Izalith staff + sunless talisman, is the best for dark sorc+miracles right senpai?

also, anyone tried with lothric spear after poise? is it any gud with WA?

>>158183827
It was fun though, much better than having specific dual wield weapons.

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>>158183796
>Lifegems

Aside from Vilhelm's set, any armor set ideas to go with the Onyx Blade. I'm trying to make a cool dark/evil knight.

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>>158183827
This. Powerstanced maces were great when the game first released and could stagger Ruin Sentinels in one L1. Then they got nerfed. There was not point using them after that. CH took over after that.

So are scythes actually good now?

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>>158183969
leonhards?
yuria mask with lorians?

>>158183969
Drakeblood set I guess?

>>158183356
Powerclimbing ladders.
Letting go of ladders to drop down.
One-way descending ladders were sadly underutilized.

t. Gilligan

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"hey, we realized we fucked up the xbone release, so we're giving it to pc 6hrs early- ps4 players can suck a dick"

what did they mean by this?

>"Due to a logistical error, the Dark Souls III Ashes of Ariandel DLC was made available for download for a short period of time for Xbox One players. We have since corrected this scheduling error and the Dark Souls III Ashes of Ariandel DLC will now be available on October 24, 2016 at 3 PM PDT for Steam players and October 24, 2016 at 9 PM PDT for console players. We regret any confusion this may have caused to players and Dark Souls III fans; we look forward to seeing everyone within the world of Ariandel."
>http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-dlc-released-early-on-xbox-one-by-acc/1100-6444708/

>>158183968

They were good. They held you up early game when estus usage was low, and introduced a strategic element into combat where you had to choose between using the safer item that healed less, or estus

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>>158182627
Is that a problem?

>>158184174
Getting 99 Lifegems near the beginning of the game and trivializing it is not good.

>>158183796
>Challenge mode(no dying, no bonfire usage) rewards
stupid
>NG++ Content that actually mattered(like bosses changing, and gated content)
do you mean the one time freja shows up and otherwise it's just worse enemy placement
>Viable weapons in each category
every game has this
>Estus Flask Shards
good change that 3 kept
>Lifegems and healing consumables
fucking awful dude, at least there's only estus and like a single divine blessing per trip in 3
>Being able to be invaded after a boss dies.
pointless but alright change
>Being able to respec
good change but soul vessel farming was a fucking pain in the ass, made better in 3
>Being able to change your gender.
in 3 you can do this without a stupid coffin only put there to fuck with people
>Less obtuse crow trading system that didn't require you to quit the game.
also good change that 3 kept

>>158183968
>>158184174
Lifegems would've been good as a limited-per-playthrough item like DaS1 Divine Blessings/Mushrooms. That way anyone chugging them is exposed as a CE kiddie.

Still, how do Lifegems compare to the other infinitely available non-Estus healing consumables in the series, like Humanity?

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>>158183151

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>>158184363
>good change but soul vessel farming was a fucking pain in the ass, made better in 3

>having to farm is a pain
>i'd rather only have 5
what?

>>158184389
lifegems were not full heals and were easily punishable as well

>>158184389

You can just buy lifegems. Items like humanity have to be farmed after your merchants run out of it

>>158184363
>stupid
cool argument
>do you mean the one time freja shows up and otherwise it's just worse enemy placement
tl note: different = worse
>every game has this
objectively false
>pointless but alright change
what's pointless about it?
>good change but soul vessel farming was a fucking pain in the ass, made better in 3
tl note: limited respecs are better than unlimited ones
>in 3 you can do this
no you can't
>also good change that 3 kept
no it didn't, it's obtuse like das1 again, literally need to read a guide

>>158184389
They regen slowly. The idea was that they were for emergency healing or countering DoT effects. They weren't really ideal for healing damage in combat because of that and were easily punished, even more so than estus

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>>158184470
Doing a lap of the Chasm isn't exactly hard. You could flip that argument around and say that Humanity was free, unlike Lifegems which bloated your SM.

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R8

>>158184716
holy ugly mismatching no fashion having mofucka/10

>>158184716
Horrid clashing/10

>>158184716
no soul, no fashion.
0/10

>>158184716
I don't like ANYTHING that I'm looking at here

>>158184565
maybe they havent updated the steam timer yet

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R8

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>>158184716

How's the PS4 life of DkS2? I go back to DkS3 every now and then and I hate it more than the last time I left it. Just revisited it again after the path in preparation of the DLC. I don't think I'll be playing the DLC.

>>158184716
>multi-colored drapery and neck seams: the game

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>get summoned
>host and his buddy are standing around at Pontiff's doing nothing
>catch the memo and stick around until an invader shows up
>that's my cue
>show him I'm benign
>point to the two Aldrich faithful NPCs, the host hasn't even tried attacking them on his own
>invader watches me kite them over to the host and his buddy
>watch the fireworks as I let the invader run into a battle that's now 3 vs 2
>now 3 vs 1
>the last thing the host sees is me applauding over where they died


Who else feeling /demonic/?

>>158184913
It's pretty alright. Not super lively or popping or anything but it takes a few seconds at 120 to find matches for bloods or crips

anyone know how to get the slave knight armor?

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>wanted to cosplay as pic related
>the lance is garbage
Can't even be Maldron the Ass

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dlc sets, in case someone has yet to see them

>>158184970

I live for invasions, not duels. Which usually forces me to move up with each new game with the player base. But I loathe DkS3 so much.

>>158185027
only the assless chaps are good
rest of it is >>158184919

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Great Build Idea (100% original do not steal)
>Ironflesh
>Refined Dagger + 60 STR and 60 AGI
>Cloth armor + Flynn's Ring
>Endurance to 25, rest of points in Vigor
>Pontiff's Left Eye, Prisoner's Chain, Ring of Favor
Rate

>>158185027
who you callin pinhead

>>158185179
>AGI

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>>158184716
>Dual-wielding dual-wielding weapons
What did he mean by this?

>>158185239
(You)

>>158185239
do you have any semblance of fashion?

do you know what that word means?

>>158185239
>replying to yourself
why dude

What's the GiantDad of DS3?

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>playing normally
>have to stop to masturbate
Why is this allowed?

>>158185403
none because that shitty meme is finally dead thank god

>>158185403

Fallen Knight set with Carthus Curved Sword.

are the eye stone rings nerfed for pvp somehow? the 20% attack/defense ones when you're low on hp

>>158185435
My fucking dick. I never looked at those enemies that closely before but damn.

>>158184996
>>158185027

>>158185564
it's in the crow village early on in the dlc
don't have specifics

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Can someone explain to me why Maiden Australia was a demon?

>>158185515
Probably. Half the rings have some sort of hidden PVP-only nerf that is mentioned nowhere and is not reflected on the character sheet

>>158185610
imbibing enough souls makes you a demon
she did it to help the wretches or someshit

I've been watching a lot of lore videos today. What is the next dlc going to be about and when will they touch on the furtive pygmy?

>>158185726
>What is the next dlc going to be about
the 3rd londor sister

What's the best spear for PvE?
is there even one?

>>158185751

The best spear is the Dark Sword.

>>158185751
Dragonslayer Swordspear

>summoned for duel
>opponent has dlc sword/shield weapon
>infinite poise
>twice my health literally
i bet it was one of you shitters

>>158185751
dragonslayer spear or swordspear or lothric knight

>>158185751

Four-Pronged Plow, is pure physical and the longest spear next to Dragonslayer/Gargoyle Flame Spear.

Partizan has slightly more AR however at the cost of being shorter.

No spear has innate bleed however so they aren't as good for PvE trashing because of this.

Are there any greatswords with horizontal 2HR1s?

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R8

>>158185831

Nope.

>>158185831

The second 2HR1s of Hollowslayer/Drakeblood are the closest you'll get for that.

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So will pc have access to the dlc monday night (midnight to late hours) or tuesday morning?

>>158185828
WHAT SPEAR IS BEST WITH HIGH POISE?

>>158185835
0

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How does the Arena matchmaking work?

>>158185902
steam is not updated the early release.

DLC will be open within 14 hours ish for steam

>>158185905

Any with charge since charge now has good WA poise. Otherwise poise has no affect on spears.

>>158183356
>Trolling idiots last thread with FBoY statues
>Netcode was somewhat better (phantom range was worse, but less lag overall)
>Pretty much anything is viable if you have skill
>Lots o content, even if it was mostly average
>All healing was non-instant, allowing easier punishes in PvP and requiring you to think in PvE
Honestly SotFS > DS3 for me right now, once all the DS3 DLC is out it'll probably be a better comparison though.

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Desert Sorcerers are enough to make Dark Souls II worth playing for

>>158185835
0/10

>>158185905

>HIGH POISE

Kek.

>>158185921
Selects from a pool of people in the queue +/-5 your level

>>158185983
>farming this set
>they stop spawning
This is one of the things I hated about DaS2, I know that there were ways to make them appear again, but they were not worth it

>>158185945
so around 5pm today?

>>158185981

DLC will not save Dark Souls III. It has too many fundamental flaws that would require rebuilding the game from the ground up. For Dark Souls III to be good, it would have to stop being Dark Souls III.

Everyone should just move back to Dark Souls II. Or better yet, the first game. But that's harder for console plebs.

>>158186073
DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2

>>158186073
nice bait

now kill yourself

>>158186140

You first faggot.

So, my current build is this:
Starting Class: Knight
Vig: 40
Att: 10
End: 35
Vit: 19
Str: 40
Dex: 40
Int: 9
Fai: 9
Lck: 9

I want to do something new-ish. What's all this I've been hearing about 66 strength? Any suggestions for a build I can just respec to from this?

>>158186070
the world is round yo, 14hrs from now whereever you are tho.

>>158186139
have you played das1 lately for comparison? it aged poorly next to das3

bb > 3 > 1 > des > 2

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>>158185062
Respectfully, git gud. DS3 actually has the best invasions of all 3 games.
>Easy to get REO
>No SM
>No invasion timer
>Entire game encourages Hit and Run tactics for invaders
All they have to do is make it easier to fuck up campers and put resummons on cooldowns. Don't try to invade at high levels, go sub-40 and have a great time. Ringswap hornet for obscuring and harass faggots until they run into your meatgrinder.
>>158186073
It would probably help if you listed those flaws.

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there is nothing i want more in this game than the loyce greatsword with its original idle animation

i cannot fucking stand this autistic ass fucking "hold my sword out in front of me like a retard" meme

>>158186212
I haven't played BB but I can agree with the rest of this

Anyone tested the valorheart here? Do you have super poise or something with it equipped or with the battlecry?

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>>158186205
i'm in texas time nigga. i hope you're right though

>play DnD with my buddies for 9 hours
>as soon as they leave i can jump into the dlc

gonna be a good day

>>158186212
Still the best in the series when you factor in both PvE and PvP.

>>158186252
it isn't poise you tard, it blocks at all times during its attack animations

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>>158186073
>Everyone should just move back to Dark Souls II.
ds3 isn't the greatest but its not nearly as bad as that shit as a whole.

>>158186252
Block frames on most of its attack, you can get guard broken if you get hit while your stamina is low.

>>158186224
>git gud
>30vig at sl30, raw dsa
loving every laugh

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How much endurance does Pyro need?

>>158186290
it's got fond memories but it's clunky. the later games also added a lot of new features that i can't play without anymore

Can I be matched with 6+ upgrade levels if my yohrm machete 5+ ?

>>158186318
>He uses powerful gear for facing down ganks so he must be a scrub
>Implying duelfaggotry takes more skill than winning a 3v1 regardless of skill
Loving every laugh indeed.

>>158185749
Wait, who are the other two?

>>158186353
nope, only +9 matches with +6
so yhorms would have to be +4

>>158186353
No, you're matched with +10 as it's max upgraded, idiot

>LKSS and shortsword are the only swords in the game with a dedicated thrusting attack

for what fucking purpose

MEMEAHACKI

>>158186384
damn it
guess I will stay on 4+ then

>>158186354
>skill
*gear, christ I'm stupid today

>>158186383
yuria
freide
and whoever the 3rd dlc is about

>>158186405
...longsword?

>>158185749

Liliane is already in the base game, she appears in the Lord of Hollows ending alongside Yuria.

>>158186353
Each level on Yhorm's is +2 when normal weapons are +1 per level so your +5 would verse +10 shit

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>>158186069
>>158185541

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>trying to beat friede with a slow weapon
Don't even bother

>>158186429
I fucking dare you to press R2 twice.

Do it. I'm waiting.

>>158186349
I didn't say that the other games didn't add some good features, it's just what they lost is more important, imo.

I would like to see a DaS1 base with BSed from BB, Guard Breaks into ripostes from DaS3, etc.

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>>158186237
I don't get why das3 is like this.

Demon's did the stances right the first time.

>>158186069
>walk to tablet in majula
>join CoC
>farm
>abandon after
>not worth it
I can't even understand this thought process.

>>158186307
>>158186292
So King Slayers' ring and guard breaking weapon arts destroy this weapon?

>>158186201
Anyone?

>>158186482
I would pay $25 fucking dollars for an animation change DLC god damnit

>>158185239
ladies and gents I present, the poise meta future of fashion

>>158186458
Even with 2 Kat she is a cunt, second boss in the game that I had to summon someone to help me, it's mostly the aggro during the second phase that fucks you over and the NPC can either do a good job aggroing the father or get reckd in 10 second because both decide to spam him with AOE moves and you can't get close to help

>>158186224

>DS3 actually has the best invasions of all 3 games.

Congrats, I nearly died of laughter. So close.

>Heavy weapons entirely outclassed by straight and curved swords.
>Backstabs nerfed beyond the point of utility.
>Ganking now stronger than ever.
>Dodging OP.

Not to mention the PvE, which while better than DkS2 in some respects, is far and away from the quality of the first game. Dark Souls III plays far too much like Bloodborne. Considering the two were in development at the same time that's no surprise, but it's no excuse either. Not only that but it does it worse, as nearly every enemy as a wombo combo that decimates your health and/or a move that looks exactly like another move of theirs, but slightly longer. The speed of the former move requires you to dodge premptively, as by the time you see the animation come out you're already getting hit. But the delayed attack will come out just in time to hit you if you dodge for the former attack.

Dark Souls is at it's best when the gameplay is slower. When you have to really commit to actions, and when a keen eye allows you to respond to situations as they develop. Dark Souls III shits all over that, ramping up the speed by 1000% to make things feel more exciting. But it leads to a game where all people do is spam dodge forever and then mash R1 mindlessly.

>>158186557
60str
27vit
40vig/end
12dex

66 isn;t worth it now that you need vit for poise

>>158186294

PvE was lackluster, but PvP was some of the best in the series. Granted SM was a bitch, but I'd take DkS2 with it's SM bullshit over DkS3's everything bullshit.

>>158186440
i would pay so much money to have this set back in dks3

>>158186619
and what are the best weapons for said build?

>>158186554
Knight Slayer's is totally, completely worthless, it adds maybe 1-2 extra stamina damage.

>>158186482
Honestly I hate that two handing animation, why the fuck would you hold the weapon like that and not outstretched in front of you?
That said I don't like the one in DaS1 or 3 either since the weapon is veering off to the side.

>>158186616
>saying this when DaS1 was just dark wood grain ring flipping all over the place and mashing R1 with 2-handed gold tracer

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>Summoned by a guy with dark sword, grass shield and full fallen knight
>Sit there as he buffs himself, his weapon and munches grass
>He runs towards me
>I mash R1 and he dies thanks to hyperarmor

Are jailers male or female ?

>>158186696
das3 BADLY needs good looking really light and really heavy armours

the fact that you have to wear ths same shitty fucking rags...I just don't know

Why couldn't they have fucking implemented just a nice bra/vest top and mouth cover instead? Why has it got to be fucking low res awful looking seaweed?

>>158186616
>Heavy weapons entirely outclassed by straight and curved swords
Not with the recent patch.
>Backstabs nerfed beyond the point of utility
But now parries are easier than ever. You could just as easily say that parries were shit in 1, and the arguments for BS also apply to 2, nobody gets hit by them unless they're stupid.
>Ganking now stronger than ever
It's not stronger, it's just easier. I take it you never experienced the joys of a 99 humanity 2 phantom gank in DS1.
>Dodging OP
Goes both ways.

>Not to mention the PvE
The PvE is the worst in terms of mechanics. Less enemies play by your rules than ever, and the whole thing is just too damn fast. A pack of rats poses a greater threat than most bosses. However, I must say that for invasions DS3 is unquestionably the best, you just have to lay the game smart. It's nothing like the previous two and you can't invade and bow and expect to duel someone. Get dirty and win however you can, the host certainly will.

>>158186224
>26 endurance for shitty axe of skillful invasions
>trying to be on a high ground

>>158186802
>desert sorceress
>good looking
I agree all the same but damn is that some bad taste.

>>158186843
One again
>Using powerful gear to face down a 3v1 means you're a scrub
>implying your duelfaggotry takes more skill than defeating 3+ humans
>implying you're not just trying to make invaders gimp themselves so you can win

>>158186882
faggot nigger

>>158186882
It had great boob bra that went with everything, or became a cool shoulder sling. It was 10/10 for light armour and could mix well with everything

The hood and leggings, not so much, but the gloves are also really nice

Unless you actually prefer seaweed

>>158186780

Don't forget hornet ring chaos rapier backstabs and Giantdad clones..

That's still more variety than Dark Souls III. That's not even counting the non-meta yet still viable weapons of the first game.

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Does the PC DS3 use steam name or character name?

>>158186996
Character name, also use the online censor checker.

>>158186913
>Using powerful gear to face down a 3v1 means you're a scrub
might as well oneshot them with CE, same thing as oneshotting them with hornet riposte and gold resin lel
>implying your duelfaggotry takes more skill than defeating 3+ humans
>>>>>3 humans
you mean 3 literal retards right? at best, 5% of the people playing the game right now knows how to play the game. I'm willing to bet not a single one of them is below sl40 being invaded while cruising the game with his babysitters.
not to mention you have estus advantage at that soul level.
>implying you're not just trying to make invaders gimp themselves so you can win
I just pop a seed and use a branch so they can kill themselves because I've yet to see an invader that isn't absolute trash at the game

>>158186974
>prefer seaweed
I don't but it's such a boring set with nothing to it. It's literally lingerie with a hood and a half skirt. Generic fantasy garbage I'd rather these games stay away from. The only part I'd bring back is the top and nothing else.

>>158186739
Anyone? what are the best strength/strength infused weapons?

>>158186974
Nah I prefer the assassin set which looks way better than desert slut.

Does DS3 have an equivalent of 2's Sanctum Mace where you would apply a poison buff to it and it would pretty much instapoison anyone with its lance charge?

I guess spotted whip could do that to but ffffuck whips, doing lance charges with a greatmace is way cooler.

>>158187082
I refer you to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05m11K0ZzXg because this basically lists a variant of my opinions. You're complaining because you're fucking bad, and you're trying to drag everyone else down to your level. Even saying
>I just pop a seed and use a branch
proves that you're salty that you can't engage them. I don't even get mad when I find people like you, in fact I take great pleasure in finding and killing you. You're usually the ones that add me and accuse me of using CE, when in reality I AM actually skilled enough to run the whole game at low-SL to make my character the way I want.

>>158187129

FUGS is the only option for ultra greatswords.

Yhorm's for greataxes.

Any Great Hammer is best STR but Great Club is your best option due to its high AR, low relative weight and amazing R2s.

Gundyr's Halberd is also a good option as a STR halberd but with the recent nerf to halberds in their poise they are far harder to use without poise-stacking as far as you can go.

I invade at SL110 and I enjoy being outnumbered. Every death is my mistake because you can always run away with the silvercat ring.

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>>158187175
The black leather set from DeS is also great.

>>158186493
anon probably didn't realise champion's cov could do that and was using ascetics or something

Some rando in an fc just dropped me a +10 dagger, can I get banned if it was spawned through the CE or something? Should I trash it to be safe?

>>158187254
>salty
lmao I've yet to lose to an invader because I stay at sl120 and at worse have double their estus. Keep trying, though.

>i am skilled enough
>using autoplay oneshotting weapons
yeah buddy, keep mashing that L2 up to 699 tongues. that'll prove to everyone that you're "gud"

>>158187323
Looks better with the head gear from the Royal set. The circlet or whatever.

>>158187323
THIS is what I'm talking about

If youre' going to have a light face mask in the game for those that need the low weight but need to fill a slot, why not a NICE looking one? Why fucking seaweed?

>>158186820

>Not with the recent patch.
Topkek. Mate, I just got done playing the recent patch. The only thing that's changed about the meta is that people now use Acid Surge in addition to the normal stuff.

>But now parries are easier than ever. You could just as easily say that parries were shit in 1, and the arguments for BS also apply to 2, nobody gets hit by them unless they're stupid.

What, because of the improved netcode? That's the only reason I can think that you'd say that. Otherwise parries are worse than ever, especially for PvE. Easily the worst parries in the series. Highest risk, lowest payoff.

Backstabs were fantastic in DkS2. Not perfect, but a great improvement upon the first game. The idea that they're somehow equivalent to the state of backstabs in DkS3 is utterly laughable.

>It's not stronger, it's just easier.

Easier, stronger, don't play semantics with me. this is the hardest game to win against ganks in, and on top of that that's pretty much ever invasion, thanks to the way they've butchered matchmaking. With each new release it seems like Fromsoft has made things harder and harder on invaders, while simultaniously trying to more and more encouraging arena-style duels. It's as if they are ashamed of one of the defining features of their game series.

>Goes both ways.

Doesn't change that it's shit, even if both parties get said shit.

>It's nothing like the previous two and you can't invade and bow and expect to duel someone.

Lol I never did that, invasions aren't duels. But the deck is stacked against the invader now more than ever, to the point of absurdity.

>>158187328
It did not always work that way. In SotFS, the made the golden lion not spawn again even in CoC.

>>158187360
the circlet needs to come back, I loved that headgear, it was the 'I don't want to wear headgear but I don't want an empty slot either' gear

Though the top hat was classy as fuck and had pretty good defenses

>>158187439
enemies that only ever spawned once wouldn't respawn in champions

it just prevented normally-respawning enemies from disappearing after 12-15 kills

in sotfs they just changed that lion to only-ever-spawn once for some reason, but then they didn't make his set a guaranteed drop

>7 snowy areas
>one whole fucking dlc based on a snowy area
>52 "urban" (i use this in medieval terms) areas across every single game
>77% of the soulsborne environment is wasted on exploring towns, cities, or castles
>97.5% of which are abandoned and/or inhabited by hostile "monsters"
>you can spend up to several hours exploring a fucking sewer system at one point
>89% of DLCs are nothing but fucking cities, towns, or castles aka urban areas
>_one__ environment throughout the entire soulsborne series with rain
>eighth game in the fucking franchise including king's field
>no desert areas
>no jungle areas
>no plains areas
>no busy town centers or cities with actual, living, breathing people inside it aside from majula and maybe the nexus, which aren't really even actually good examples, because they're not even fucking settlements


what in the actual, literal fuck, fromsoft? this isn't fucking warhammer 852 AD. this depressive grimdark "m-muh age of fire n fug the humans1!" bullshit has been going on far too long

if dlc2 doesn't remedy all of the above issues im going to fucking hornet riposte myself irl with a fucking scythe made out of glued-together CD shards from several hundred copies of the souls games

>>158187323
>No return of DeS Rouge, Black Leather, Gloom, or Binded sets
At least the Fluted made a spiritual return in the DLC, didn't it.
Also found it odd that of all sets to return first, Sage Freke's stuff came back first in DaSII's DLC.

>>158187467

Circlet in DeS was pretty much the Knight's Wig in BB, exactly as you described. Fashionable enough to go with anything and fill the headgear slot. Wish Souls had more of that.

>>158187406
It's amazing how they didn't think to give invaders some kind of buff when you're fighting more than 1 person, considering its already practically impossible to win if they're halfway competent. Nope, instead they give you half your estus, less health than the host, and a covenant that summons even more phantoms on demand.

>>158187627

Not to mention seeds.

>>158187347
>stay at 120SL
>complaining about SL30
Nigger what?
>autoplay oneshotting weapons
Holy fucking shit you're retarded. Seriously, you're mentally fucking handicapped if you think DSA of all things is that fucking good.
>>158187406
>Meta
See, I don't invade at 120 because 120 is way overlevelled for having fun in anything but a duel scenario. I always invade sub-60 and I can tell you that a good greatweapon can and will fuck people up at those levels.
>What, because of the improved netcode?
Yeah, and this discussion isn't really about PvE. PvE is shit in 3, we're in total agreement on that.
>don't play semantics with me
I'm not. Stronger would mean more effective, and it's not. Gank hosts now have limited healing, and the phantoms have "limited" healing because they require resummons to refill it. That alone makes them less powerful.
>this is the hardest game to win against ganks in
DS2 was worse because there was a timer, in this you can just be patient and attrition the host down. I do it all the time. Invasions in this game take an average of 20 minutes each, and I'm pretty sure that was the intent.
>simultaniously trying to more and more encouraging arena-style duels
I dunno man, they make this shit for JPN and JPN hates duels. The DLC adds an arena though, so who knows what goes through their weird asian skulls.
>Doesn't change that it's shit, even if both parties get said shit.
Yeah it's shit, but it's not OP if everyone has it.
>the deck is stacked against the invader now more than ever
Only if you play it like the previous games. Invaders are meant to hit and run and wear down their prey, not bumrush in and demolish everything. As far as I know this was always the idea but people found ways around it. Imagine if WL didn't exist in DS3, it's be just like DS1 with the level of insane twinking that could go on. They added that for a very good reason, and it was to make invasions play the way THEY want them to.

What are your guys' favourite strength weapons? Never done a STR build. Thinking about starting one.

>>158187759
Heavy Gotthards.

>>158187742
>Holy fucking shit you're retarded. Seriously, you're mentally fucking handicapped if you think DSA of all things is that fucking good.
DSA and Drakeblood Greatsword are the STRONGEST low level invasion weapons in the game. DSA does up to 200 damage at +2 with a gold resin on it and ripostes for over 1k damage with hornet ring. You're fucking retarded.

Souls games need more bosses that speak. Consumed King and True Allant are some of my favorite bosses.

Bosses don't have to be hard, they should be memorable. The difficulty is a means, not an end.

>>158187759
if i'm doing str/fai, heavy longsword

straight up str, heavy great club

what's with all the taunting at pontiff's courtyard today? usually when I do duels people just bow or run off when they win, and just the last two days people have been doing ganker tier taunts. where did the good sportsmanship go? is the dlc just bringing children back to the community?

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>Finally try out Dark Souls
>Start game
>Create character
>Cutscene
>Finally start playing
>Camera is uncontrollably spinning in circles
Help? I cant fix this shit

>>158187550
>One area that's raining
Valley of Defilement, 5-2
It's hard to tell with all the shit and piss all about
>No desert area
Brightstone Cove Tseldora is a desert/steppe mining town.

But I agree, I would at least like to see a city in its heyday.

>>158187809
>talking about skill at PvE
>suddenly you're talking about PvP
That's called shifting the goalposts schlomo

>>158187759
fugs
milwood battleaxe on tuesday
butcher's knife until tuesday
greataxe even though its actually a quality weapon
yhorm's 1-handed is basically the same thing as the greataxe but better
dragon tooth
caestus
plain ol' Mace is good since the patch
gundyr's halberd
bout it

>>158187854
meeme meemerson doing "ironic" gestures while being genuinely serious

>>158187892
>talking about skill at PvE
Who did that?
I was always talking about invasions.

>>158187809
>>158187347
>>158187082

never pve.

>>158187330
HELP

>>158187862
You might have connected the controller while holding a direction, which sets it to its neutral point. Reconnect the controller.

>>158187938
I literally said
>You're usually the ones that add me and accuse me of using CE, when in reality I AM actually skilled enough to run the whole game at low-SL to make my character the way I want.
>when in reality I AM actually skilled enough to run the whole game at low-SL
>I AM actually skilled enough to run the whole game
As in PvE you drooling mong. Try actually reading the posts you reply to.

>>158187943
It's already too late you picked it up

>>158187946
You're fine.

Do you think they'll let people trade the DLC weapons to each other once the DLC is actually released?

>>158187759
for pure strength my absolute favorite is Yhorm's great machete

How good is heavy warpick?

>>158187994
FUCK

>>158187984
That has nothing to do with my point of you being a shitter abusing top tier invading weapons and thinking you're good for killing retards. Anyone can finish this shitty game on a low level character. Hell I did a sl1 in the first month. Did a SL20+2 in the first week. You're not special, you're not good.

>>158188047
There's literally nothing wrong with invasions in DaS3. Even if you don't use a twink build, host has seeded and the host has 3 buddies you can't lose unless you make a mistake.

>>158188049
yeah you and half the pvp community apparently, when did this meme weapon get so popular

>>158187467
>>158187575
>the circlet needs to come back
Agreed. I want it and the Boar helmet back.

Maria's hat was pretty great too.

>>158187526
That was just a retarded concept in general. Single time spawns are fine, but not if it screws you out of drops. At least Kirk would drop all of his shit on his last spawn if he had not dropped it before.

>>158187915
The difference between refine greataxe and heavy greataxe at 60str is only about 10 points, so it's actually good for either.

Yhorm's doesn't true combo like greataxe, you can only get 1 hit instead of the two you get from greataxe or most other weapons

Will agree though that butcher is sexy as fuck

>>158188096
Then once again I refer you to the video. I don't know how inverted your penis is to have to be constantly insinuating that not using a build you approve of is being unskilled, but I genuinely feel bad for you.
>Did a SL20+2 in the first week
I did SL15+0 on day 2. Am i winrar yet?

>>158188114
w-what anon?

do you even read the posts you reply to?

>>158188047
Wait i gave me friend the DLC saber is he gonna get banned?

>>158188126
When BKGA got nerfed

BKGA hit 700 ar unbuffed, un-warcry'd before the nerf

So when the nerf happened they moved to Yhorm's, being the second highest ar weapon

they still use it with hornet ring too which was what people were using for BKGA

>>158188217
what are you talking about? you can't trade DLC items

dont lie

>>158188169
It is unskilled because there's literally no thought process going for that build. Saying that is like saying twinking took skill in dark souls 1. Use it if you like, but get over yourself, trash.


>I did SL15+0 on day 2.
>>Anyone can finish this shitty game on a low level character.

>>158188247
I'm on the shitbox if it counts

Yeah I like DS1 and Scholar better but DS3 is a good game anyway.

I feel like Memezaki is 100% done with Souls and wants to just do Lovecraft shit for BB in Sony, which is why BB is the better game. More focus.
Gwyndolin and Anor Londo getting raped by a slug monster called Eldritch for the "Age of the Deep" was a little ham fisted but it got the message across.

Lets just hope a hard core Souls fan decides to take up the mantle, and makes a Souls game that compiles all the improvements while not making the same/new mistakes. DS2 and 3 are retarded in that wherever they took a step forward there are concerning steps back that shouldn't exist. A real bottom up effort.

My hope is that they really go all out with the NPCs for Souls 4. More dialogue, depth, interaction. Just so long as I don't have to summon them I'm good.

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>>158188331

>>158188331

just let it go

>>158188280
Funny how suddenly your statement of skill is irrelevant because I did it, but better.
>there's literally no thought process going for that build
Sounds exactly like someone who's never actually invaded at low-SL past high wall. I'm done with this discussion, you have no points to make, it's just name calling now.

>>158188331
>Lets just hope a hard core Souls fan decides to take up the mantle
Nioh

>>158188293
Wait, the DLC is already out for you guys so that means maybe they'll let people trade the weapons

Neat

Just booted up the patch, does a few things not mentioned in the notes feel...different to anyone else?

Specifically, I feel like it's taking longer to roll out of the estus animation. Also my lock-on controls are acting janky and randomly unlocking off enemies.

>God-King Lucifer !!ss9GITmavRN
the fuck?

>>158188427
stop clicking on sexlegs and trying to hide it, pervert

>>158188415
try reading the patch notes again. also, check your settings harder

>>158188415
I noticed that the game runs better on my pc after patch.

>>158188390
I've invaded at high wall at sl10+2, sl20+2 at settlement, sl30+4 as a furry, sl40~55 in catacombs~irithyll, sl72 at lothric castle and sl100 in archives.

Winning is easier at lower levels and it's literally impossible to lose with DSA up to sl55. I've yet to lose an invasion in all those characters when I used DSA or Drakeblood. Once again, get over yourself, trash.

>>158188474
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
*snickers*

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>>158188532
Is something wrong anon?

>>158188473
Doesn't say shit, anon. And no, my settings are fine.

>>158188531
>muh dik
Literally you right now.

>>158188601
I expected nothing less.

>>158188057
Anyone? I really like how it looks

Long shot, I know, but would anyone have a spare Wolf Knight Greatshield lying around you could spare? Grinding these Grus outside Abyss Watchers is soul destroying.

>>158188719
Most people are drooling at the new curved sword so not many have tried the mace type weapon buff. Maces might become the new meta, who knows for sure though.

What's the current Dark Souls 3 pvp meta look like? Is it still straight swords, rapiers, and katanas everywhere? Are spells still complete shit?

>>158188894
pyromancy is the meta

Anyone need any help on ps4? I'm just sitting here with my thumb up my ass looking for something to do.

>>158188795
>Grinding these Grus outside Abyss Watchers
Grind the 3 grus at the Keep ruins bonfire, it's much faster.

>>158188894
They just buffed maces so their two handed attacks have hyper armor so the meta might change now.

Can someone post DLC scythe AR for 60int
>>158188894
Everything is shit except CCS.

>>158188981
OK, thanks anon.

>>158187742

>Says patch fixed the meta.
>Says don't play the meta because it sucks.

Come on man, you've just put your foot in your mouth.

>parrying

Parrying in the first game was easy and consistent, so long as you understood to parry early due to netcode.

Dark Souls II made parrying even better by fixing the netcode issue and allowing for reactionary parries.

Parrying in Dark Souls III now has less reward than ever, doing the least amount of damage in the series, while not being any easier to pull off. The only part about parrying that's "easier" in this game is dodging after a whiffed parry, which isn't an improvement, but a detriment.

>limited healing

Power is relative to the situation you're in. Ganks may have less healing, but hosts now have twice as much healing as any invader, and also a health bonus. Then you have seeds, which removes the one advantage invaders have. Coupled with the ease of replenishing fallen allies and the Darkmoons and the scales are incredibly weighted in favor of the host, far more than in any previous game. Ergo, they are stronger.

>timer

Lol, an invasion that takes 20 minutes is terrible. Average invasion should be 5-10 minutes.

>rolling

Whether or not something is OP isn't contingent on who has access to it, it's contingent upon it's own mechanics.

>Invaders are meant to hit and run

Then why add seed?

There was no intent on how invaders would play their invasions. If there was, it would almost certainly be to bumrush, because that's how all the NPC invaders behave.

Your argument is self-defeating because by your own admission invaders have even less options than ever with regard to how they play the game. That makes them WORSE, not BETTER. The same goes for your argument about not playing at meta SL. Your entire argument for why Dark Souls III is the best in the series only rings true if we don't look at the whole picture and play in a very limited way.

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I HEARD THE DLC IS 3 BOSSES, IS THAT A MEME OR LEGIT

>>158188894
manikin claw only with dung bomb support

>>158189085
2

>Lucy thread
Fuck off, waiting for the next one.

>>158189119
wtf really 2? how is that acceptable

Will we be able to queue up in our own parties in the arena for team battles?

>>158189162
Dark souls 2 had mostly just 2 bosses and some kind of reused one.

>I fucking died to Havel as a white phantom

WHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYY

>>158188331
>Souls 4

Should've stopped at 1, the positives of each new game don't outweigh the negatives. Each new release has been consistently worse than the last.

I don't want a new Dark Souls game. Like with Bloodborne, let Miyazaki take the basic formula and build upon it in a new and creative way and maybe we'll get a good game again.

Just don't fuck up PvP again like you did with Bloodborne, Miyazaki. I know you lurk VG faggot.

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>>158189219
Now imagine if NPC Havel had ds1-style poise

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>>158189162

yeah, idk wtf twt tbqhwy rnmt2bh irasttdgtat ds3idsa2wibttbs

>>158189063
>implying I ever talked about the 120 meta
No.
>Parrying in the first game was easy and consistent
Yeah, totally, pressing L2 a full second before an attack was totally easy and consistent. No sarcasm. None at all.
>other stuff
desu it's 2AM here, I'm not reading all that shit, but frankly most of those complaints can be fixed by not trying to rush people.
>Lol, an invasion that takes 20 minutes is terrible
Opinions.
>Whether or not something is OP isn't contingent on who has access to it
Actually, it definitely is. Balance is relative.
>Then why add seed?
Ask Miyazaki, because literally everyone has been asking that since DS2. It's likely it was made as a concession to Bamco from what I can make out from 2ch archives.
>There was no intent on how invaders would play their invasions
Objectively wrong, Invaders are supposed to be enemies controlled by a player. This means you're supposed to do everything you can to win, including using mobs and retreating or hit+run.
>Your argument is self-defeating because by your own admission invaders have even less options than ever with regard to how they play the game
I never said there were more options, I said it had the best invasions.
>That makes them WORSE, not BETTER
Literally an opinion.
>The same goes for your argument about not playing at meta SL
See above
>Your entire argument for why Dark Souls III is the best in the series only rings true if we don't look at the whole picture and play in a very limited way
I said it had the best invasions. If you can't even be bothered to read the argument you're trying to counter, stop replying.