/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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Let's enjoy this beautiful underground sunset together.

>>158130070
Fuck you, nigger.

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>>158134945
>keen
>fluids
pick one, just one!

>>158135187
Is that really underground?

That game is such garbage.

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spaceball ram best ram

>>158137432
heh, if they knew...

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space mecha patrol

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>>158139036
I want to dare someone to build (even using the advanced logic blocks mod) a working Percival UEF T3 Armored Assault Bot in FtD with a particle beam for weaponry

>>158134945
In case someone's not gotten the memo yet, the Spengies server is running. The version is STABLE, until Keen fixes the current on-join-crash bug they introduced in 1.157.

>tfw your capital ship will never be capable of transforming into a gigantic maid

>>158139512
>tfw Nick will never unfuck himself so you will never be able to make a stupid oversized bird in a youkai suit giant mecha

>>158139036
walking webm when?

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>>158140262
if you call this walking.
Needs alot of trial and error with an already adapted script for this many joints and equilibrium.

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>>158140465
what if you gave them hoverboards?

Even with everything on high/hard nothing ever attacks my base in Empyrion.
I got 3 waves of drones on Aqua. That's all.
I even went to another planet and built a base there, and nothing. According to the settings it's supposed to be an infinite waves/medium planet. Nothing. I'm seriously getting bored here and my turrets feel like decorations.

>>158140564
And maybe lowered the center of mass a bit.

And then added another pair of wheels for added stability

Possibly flatten it for better aerodynamics and to further lower the profile, plus you need less armor to attain the same protection so it's lighter

Use the extra space to stick a very large gun on it

Yeah, should work

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>>158140564
the robotech masters biodroids use some sort of hover boards.
maybe i could put a handle in a pirate drone that looks like a pizza, and try the same, lel.

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pretty cool tanks no trackers server in EU machinecraft right now.

>>158140670
maybe you need to discover the drone bases?

>>158140465
you could give them wheels like the mechs from heavy gear

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>>158142763
Cooler, but also harder to control at all.

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>>158142958
>>158142763
I was also thinking about put more 1x1 wheels and control the frictrion to just ski, pic of an way older version

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>>158143152
best way to sanic

>>158143328
Well, going all over like shazbot would be the final goal.

>>158140465
>QWOP

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>boot up factorio after 60 hour work week
>half awake, can't think straight to save my life
>make this somehow

i'm strangely proud in a way

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>>158143917
The problems are the hip joings, all of them.

In the pitch axis, i cant control the limits on the fly.
So, when whe put one leg forward, it dosent put the other leg a little backwards, so it end up facing the floor, if i put like 20 more degrees just there, it will stand straight and even walk better, but at doing the reverse to go standing up again, it will be like gif related.
Thats why this need a combination of scripts and direct control.

>>158143152
>>158140465
I keep telling you to ape the system from the AT-ST. In addition, use EasyAutomation and a small script that does nothing but rotate the uppermost vertical leg rotor on the one currently grounded to keep the torso vertical. The hurry up and re-do them with proper warbros kit. I can't fucking stand seeing nothing but those shitty gatlings and rocket pods on everyone's shit, especially that Defender/Rifleman.

>>158144124
smol/10

>>158144337
I ain't played that game bruh, just got started with besiege and decided to search catalog for besiege/related threads.

Would some kind of return-to-center mechanism help? I use them all over the fucking place in besiege but I basically do nothing but build aircraft.

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>crossout has a limited time event going where a temporary faction is supposed ot be passing through the area where Crossout takes place, and you can grind out their gear while they are "in town"

Its an interesting concept, but it just makes me want them to be a permanent faction with lots of medieval styled parts.

They even have a super obnoxious horn you can make that you can blast at people non stop.

>>158145462
Well, there is nothing like that in spengos, would save from alot of scripting by just set a particular angle as the center, and force the rotor to reach out to it no matter its position, put some force and brake force to not shake too much and you can turn on-off those and do some little override to move, and thats it.
But you have to set all that in scripting.

>>158144618
Arm OS is working on shared joint control.
If that gets done, would prefer to use that because you can even set 3d positions on a text panel, and you need a 2 blocks, but the easy automation needs a fucking LCD, wich is big, flat, and very hard to hide inside the mech, chest is already filled with stuff. and the phalanx has an smug animu face, and i was thinking about put one as ASCII.
Everything is going to be vanilla, i would be using hinges by far if not, makes all joints and geometry more compact.

>>158146118
>a spray can that sprays patterned paint
That's some Disney shit

So since CHODE has default vehicles that are trash, when can we expect custom campaigns or even multiplayer mode where two players use their designs to destroy the other player's fleet?

>>158146261
>Everything is going to be vanilla, i would be using hinges by far if not, makes all joints and geometry more compact.
Fucking why
You need to figure out what server environment you are targetting and use the tools available to you. I can accept using only rotors

I accept the space concerns however, I've already thought out how I was going to design and build my own walkers using similar techniques but I had accounted for needing an LCD or three from the get-go for EA use as well as fleet command script use, as I planned from the outset on making them useful in automated teams. You could even mod them into faction units and get attacked by them. Either way, I'd do it anyway with a testbed to see how the solution works out with EA. I've got a four-legged tank I'd like to make work in Arm OS. And by working on shared joint control, you mean being able to control them independently of Arm OS? Otherwise, you could go ahead and try the spider tank idea right now. You'd probably want something to convert the 3D GPS coords into 2D planetary coords, unless you can already use a coordinate plane with the programming block/body as the frame of reference. Then you just decrement the step height from the walking level of the robot until the landing gear senses the ground, or raise it if it detects something before it reaches the point you were trying to make it step at.

>>158147246
Forgot to finish the first part of the post. I can accept using rotors over hinges, not everywhere might have those, but at the bare minimum put some better weapons on it. At least keep an alternate blueprint with a weapon pack enabled or a version built for Warbros use.

>>158147071
Evolution algorithm for CHODEs when

>>158146869

We are getting close. We already have cans of paint that can spray mixed colors and texures so the paint feels lumpy or rough.

And then we have shit like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgEjrtBprlo

Only a matter of time before somebody comes up with a can that can spray actual designs and symbols.

>>158147246
>>158147409
And by working on shared joint control, you mean being able to control them independently of Arm OS?
look on the tutorials how he insist so much about the orientation of everything, on double joints one is reversed so it need to reverse its controls for specific tagged rotors.
You can use other methods for multiple legs.
sice it uses a PB and a TB its small enough to be hidden even in the legs it self, dont know if works like that, maybe also playing with remote controls, but you can set one script combo for each leg if the original one wont work if you set all joints on a single script.
I recomend 6 legs over 4, the stability is a mess with 4 legs.
Unless you rise 1 leg at a time or do like robit and rely on sensors and timers wich center with secondary scripts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZT7mCLqiBo
Here is 1 with 4 legs, and it relies on low gravity and gyros to keep itself standing.

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>>158146261
>nothing like that in spengos

There's nothing like that in besiege either, so I made one on my own. I made an "active" version that depends on the movement of two stationary pistons that rotate a swivel joint attached to a hinge, and a "passive" version that is a swivel joint with some flat wing panels on either side that are weighted by ballasts. You can see a picture of the passive RTC mechanism here. The center area with the wheels is a kind of torque generator that rotates the central body of this rudimentary helicopter in any particular direction. The passive RTC mechanisms resist that motion to keep the helicopter mostly upright. When I align the central axis of the helicopter with the gravitational force vector, the wings return to their center position and the helicopter remains upright.

>>158148615
I was banking on software stabilization based on the tank's orientation, moving two diagonally opposed legs at a time and accounting for the instability at the hip rotors considering you are, in fact, landing-geared to the ground through those legs.

>>158148615
>>158147409
Also forgot the reply to that part.
The original have hands, and hold a weapon, maybe i can sort something out, but also vanilla, and its because of the challenge, and that i not rely on anything than the game to achieve it, for me hinges are like nanites.
Guns are the easiest to replace, this one dosent have any gun as structural part.
Wont be hard to replace the cannons and other shit, but no one did small swarm of guided missiles yet, that would be its mod weapon of choice.
Keen need to improve its guns.
>>158148989
noice.
>>158149490
Thats why you need direct control, instead of a backpack filled with gyros and a script to keep you stable.

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House engineering when

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>>158134945
>My crappy comic got used as the OP image

>>158150373
The guild ll?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpKW5uP5O8
At last some shit like this to fuck with.

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Good night /egg/

>>158153057
>sleeping

>>158153057
Really hate how the pumps do that to the water around ships.

>>158153308
You can turn it off in options

>>158152762
What the fuck, it took this long? It's basic fucking vector math.

Is it satisfying to kill pirate bases in Space Engineers and play it single player?
I need something new to play.

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>>158159371
I recommend ChoDE.

But only if you like Kerbal, and would like to try it more violent and more autopilot.

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>>158137432
I love old-timey THE FUTURE OF WARFARE concept art like this. That bote actually looks pretty cool

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>>158159371
I recomend it to other anon.
>start a new map on creative on easy start of planet of choice, all damage on
>wait for the 1st pirate drone and cut it
>paste a few going fast as shit to the base to wreck it a little
>go spectator
>go where no pirate bases are in range
>go up up to the gravity borders
>paste yourself and an amospheric lander at choice and get inside
>go out and save
>edit the savegame to survival
>set apocalypse meteors
>objetive: survive
>secondary objetive: clean all planets of pirate bases

>>158160058
My google skills failed me. What is this game?

>>158160906
kerbal space program

>>158160906
Children
of
(A)
dead
Earth

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>>158160446

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>>158160058
oh and its improved to, more armament, better maneuvering, crew modules are heavy.

Should be paired with a missile carrying ship.

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>>158161114

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>>158161114
.

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>>158161114
They actually built this one, the absolute madmen

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>>158161114
But how are we of steering?

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>>158161541
This was way too advanced and still futuristic, maybe with better understanding of the tech behind.
>>158161961
>>158162107
This would work wonders on spengos.

>>158162263
Dfferential torque on the rear wheels (on tricycle) and side gyros (other thing)

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When the only tool your designers know how to use is a straightedge

>>158162445
>KV2.jpg

>>158162567
Actually just the turret.

>>158162445
>entire tonk is box
>cept turrent
triggered

>>158162842
Weak bait.

>tfw you will never get enough money to own a tank

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>How are we going to make a ship that can go on land?
>Just put some wheels on it, dumbass

>>158163115
Its only a few thousand for a surplus slav tank. If you can afford an expensive second car you could buy a tank.

>>158163115
But they start at like 20k
thats not horrible

>>158163240
>>158163245
What?
I thought they were insanely expensive.
I now have reason to live.

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P O R T H O L E S

>>158163329
Nigga why do you think the rest of us arent dead
I'm saving for a MiG-21 too

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>>158163170
>few thousand

Try few tens of thousands

>>158163376
>its literally a ChoDE spaceship with tracks
I like the shitty indie game, but look at this tank and consider the conical spaceships.

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>Onyx Watch in charge of tank development

>>158163502
Still in the upper-middle class luxury car price range.

>rased frugal
>$150k in investments because I only spend 30% of my income
I think I'll buy more money.

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>>158162107
>>158161961
As long distance cheap arty, heavy armor on the front, and nothing else.

why do these concepts all show hughmungus sized botes?

I can't find the tutorial in the current version of space engineers. Was it removed?

I played it a few months ago for a few hours but stopped for reasons and wanted to give it a shot. I distinctly remember being an interactive tutorial there.

>>158164275
Because big equals powerful and impressive

how do I do good bote in ftd

i wanna not get fucked up by the DWG air wing that seems to always spawn near the starting fort

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>>158164275
Because a giant armored bradley fortress was the endgoal in paper.
But in reality are like maus and other king size shit, imagine a bote with wheels rolling over yurop all bling bling fuck you i have dem rimz while killing shit with battleship size firepower.
>>158164320
Turorials for what?

>>158164191
>uses grav drive
>doesn't use gravity cannon
why?

>>158164528
I don't think it has a gravity drive, those don't work on blenits

>>158164528
Those look like artificial masses, maybe to balance?

>>158164528
Mass is to counterweight the front layer of heavy armor, it did a front flip as soon as i put the 1st line.
also has a reverse each wheel to steer on each directions.

>>158164527
I remember a series of missions teaching building and controls and stuff.

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>>158111968
It's a hollow shell yet to be filled.
Shortly after I gave it depth I got bored with Spengies because of a bug that made the build not work in survival.

>>158163830
>have to buy it
>have to get it shipped
>have to get the cannon deactivated and inspected
>probably a whole shitload of paperwork and bureaucratic bullshit to go thru just to get it into the country
>have to put it back in working order
>have to get parts custom made at machine shop because you can't find that shit at a carquest
>have to keep it in running condition
>or alternatively let it rust in your back yard because you're fucking broke and can't afford to fix it
>have to have a plot of land to be able to enjoy it
>have to feed it shitton of fuel
>when you're fucking sick of seeing it you put it up to sale but realize no one wants the fucking thing because its a huge pain in the ass and no one has money for it

Compare that to buying a BMW, you buy it, insure and plate it and its under warranty for 4 years, trouble free. And once the warranty runs out you can easy find a sucker to get it off your hands.

Honestly I'd want a tank too but you have to think these things thru. The people who have these are either rich or have no life.

>>158164615
grav drive works by combining an artificial mass with a grav generators it is coolface physics. Grav cannon works by stacking grav gens and propelling items to the speed limit.

>>158164780
>not getting the canon functional with all proper licenses

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>>158164698
Wew, you are right, tutorial missions are nowhere to be found.
Looks like you have to go blind, or ask here.

>>158164835
I know what a grav drive is, I'm just explaining why there are artificial masses there

>>158164717
>i can use the wobble of a rotor to soften the landing
Holy shit, i still remember that.

>>158164947
geddamn, was waiting for people to do some real shit.

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Are Range finders all you need for the AI to shoot accurately? The guns are accurate within 0.07 degrees but the shots miss by miles they're not even close.

Has anyone got hard info this is getting really frustrating/

>>158165593
>Are Range finders all you need for the AI to shoot accurately?
>the shots miss by miles
I guess we'll never know

>>158165908
Well it's not a simple question is it? Many of the player designs I see here use range finders exclusively.

Also it's not consistent. Against a ship it can miss 20 shots in a row but against a big airship it can hit 20 times in a row.

>>158166106
When it misses, is it missing precisely?

It could be the difference between hitting 30% of the shots with a firehose and hitting 0% of shots by one centimeter.

Why people stop playing on the serb?

>>158166106
None of the designs you see might have a camera or radar tucked away somewhere, or some sonar below the waterline? If it doesn't work, mess around until it does

>>158166521
Because Marek is still not gassed.

>>158166391
When it misses it's about 50/50 splash downs far short of the target or shots flying far above and over. The guns are set to maximum accuracy requirement (0.5) before firing so I don't get why they're even firing if they're not pointed at the target.

>>158166601
Fair enough. What do you guys use for big long range guns?

>>158167004
Looks like you're getting shitty range readings. Look at what will be best for range. Laser range finder or radar gimbal are good

>>158167457
i bet marek tried to make this

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>Chrysler in charge of tank design

>>158168239
>>Chrysler in charge of design

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>>158168094

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>oil fires are raging in kuwait in the 90's
>fires are burning so fucking hot that even some metals are melting just trying to get close to the oil well caps
>engineers are doing shit like making makeshit heat shields to cover bulldozers, but its still getting too fucking hot to get close
>they put some fires out but they are having a hell of a time

>suddenly out of nowhere fucking Hungarians show up with twin Mig-21 engines bolted onto a T-55 and put the fires out effortlessly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Ss3BMrscE

>>158168850
*T-34

Do the harpoons and cable reels and shit work?

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>>158169432
What do you think?

>>158134945
Why do robocraft is still on the list? it doesn't even deserve to be in a list of dead games

>>158170064
>Why do robocraft is still on the list?
Sounds good boss.

>>158170064
Because it's ded

>>158135719
That guy is just falling through the planet

>>158170064
play it, get ebic lood

>>158166521
because between keenfuckery and comcast fuckery I can't play for more than 5 minutes/at all. Assuming I don't crash at any point, I still keep getting massive ping spikes after playing for a bit. Eventually I can't place blocks or move and I either quit or get DC'd. It's sad because I want to play serb spengos but I can't because everybody is cocks. Thank you ced for trying your best to counter the keenfuckery though

Bamp

daily reminder
gas the nukeen

>>158175854
nukem the nukeen

I was kind of interested in Chode when it came out like a month ago. Is it worth buying?

>>158176136
Give it a pirate and see for yourself, igg games has a mega link.

>>158176136
it's worth pirating

>>158164931
>what do you have for self defense?
>russian seven six two
>carbine, full-length or nugget?
>seven six point two

>>158175698
What i am looking at?
How to create blueprints in survival?

>>158164949
holy fuck they spent how many updates trying to get those tutorials right even

fucking christ

>>158176464
It's a hack I made that creates a new projector subtype. They can't accept external blueprints (and don't have any ModAPI shit beyond the ProjectorBase stuff, no cheating allowed), but they have one simple, yet important function: Press the Create Snapshot button, and it copies the ship it's attached to, sets it as blueprint, and then aligns the blueprint to the current grid (except for some issues I'm having where the projection is shat out in a rotated state).

Unfortunately, I can only implement these as a modification in SECE since Keen made mods unable to access a bunch of things in projectors, most importantly the Clipboard.

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Fin.
Now to fill it but actually just play Warbros but I think that's dead.

How to make the Ai movement of a ship more random in FtD?

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Crossout update:weapon balance still sucks dick, with some weapon absolutley dominating over other weapons

>>158178717
Was playing early today, finally got into 4k+ PS matchs

>Lunatic armored bricks with autocannons/miniguns/machineguns BTFO everything else.

That was a joykill, don't feel like playing anymore.

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>>158179034

Yeah, expect to see those things fucking everywhere, in every match.

But players are throwing up a huge stink about them, so maybe they will get nerfed.

They have tons of overpowered as fuck lightweight armor, and 10-12 wheels, meaning youll never be able to slow them down or disable them. You cannot compete with them at all unless you build one too.

>playing match earlier
>half the enemy team is just fucking boxes of grill armor with guns slapped on top and 12 wheels
>get a screenshot of them just driving around in an unstoppable pack killing everything they run into

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Thank you Keen for reminding me why I stopped playing this fucking game.

This entire base has vanished.

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I see a Sparky and I want it painted black.

>>158180550
False alarm, restarting fixed it. Jesus christ this game is a heap of shit sometimes.

>>158180950
>sometimes

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>>158180950
>>>>>>>sometimes

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>>158179241

Heres another super fun match where 2 grill box players with 12 wheels went up against me and another guy in normal builds.

We have no chance against these things.

>>158184610
I painstakingly grinded the 100mm cannon but it does jack shit against these cunts.

They just run circles around my boat and chip away quickly at my scavenger armor.

Should have kept my twin 88's

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>>158185591

My trukks evolved and gotten huger and is tanky as fuck now, but yeah, grill box builds still just tear me to shreds because they just dont fucking die.

I can blast normal players apart with my cannons, but grill boxes are just completely unfazed by canons and basically everything. I can blow off 6 fucking wheels, and they can still drive totally fine.

It just gets worse and worse as you go into higher tier matches. Once you go past 4000PS you start seeing grill boxes driving around with dual legendary shotguns or dual hurricane homing missiles, or even dual 100MM cannons stuck on the sides, that can still go max speed and shake off hits from anything.

Ive found that playing right around 3500-3800PS is the sweet spot for "fun".

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>tfw no CAD based game where you design vehicles

machinecraft best /egg/ though

>>158179241
>>158184610
>>158185591

Oh, also, the reason why grill armor is so totally fucked is that it allows 90% of damage to pass through it.

The devs went retarded and thought,"Sasha, I haev great idea for gaem. What ifs damage pass through lunatic armors because its is so full of holes and emtpy bars? It am makes sense and make armor very weak, but light weight at same tiem!".

But then they didnt fucking think it through because now builds made of solid grill armor have damage literally pass through them. It goes in one side and out the other and does nothing, barely damaging the armor itself, and any major components that take damage take greatly reduced damage thanks to the grill armor removing 10+% depending on layers of armor.

So while normal armor takes machine gun fire and flakes off, revealing the delicate vehilce cabin and modules, grill armor just goes LOL and passes 90% of the damage to the next layer, which then passes it on again, and eventually out the other side of the car.

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>>158161114

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>>158186727
pls

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>>158187017
>coast to coast WOW
>WOW

>>158187017
>>158189080
I recently drove South-North across the US (~Mexican border to ~Canadian border) and even that was a pain in the ass. Unless they have multiple drivers, that would have never been a reality. Plus, who the fuck wants to spend like, a week if not more, inside that?

>>158163502
>it's literally the price of a medium-low luxury car in brazil
FUCK MY LIFE.

>>158186727
boot up autoCAD and design your stuff

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>want to have fun in crossout with /egg/

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What is your favorite, most compact anti air turret /egg/

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>but the game keeps matching us against players and bots with stupidly higher tier weapons and gear than us

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>>158190418
This one

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>>158190450
it's kinda small does it work?

>>158190561
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=673333214

See for yourself. It used to work better before bullet drop though,

>>158168850
There was some study both in the URSS and in US to use conventional and nuclear explosives to put out well fires. They are some serious shit

>>158167858
>The first prototype allegedly met its end when the rear turret inadvertently fired upon the centre main turret

dammit Sergei

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>>158190418
It's still my most reliable AA turret to this day.

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The Russians apparently play Machinecraft a different way now. They're sorting out classes and types. Could be fun

All vehicle types can be anything - not restricted by the implications of the class name. I.e "bomber" can actually be a helicopter.
Tanks could be truck style vehicles, etc. Could make something really dumb looking utterly unrelated, as long as it fits a class specification.

Surface Vehicle Classes
MBT (Main Battle Tank)
mass: 1250-9999; can use: JP-type sword armor, cannons, launchers, beamers, shields. Cant use: thrusters, trackers, movers, shaft prophellers, tankguns, howitzers.

AT - Artillary Tank
mass: 500-9999; can use: cannons, howitzers, beamers, launchers, shields

LT - Light Tank
mass: 375-1250; can use: cannons, beamers, launchers, shields, shaft prophellers

BMTS - Battle Machine of Tank Support (russian БMПT(BMPT) - Бoeвaя Maшинa Пoддepжки Taнкoв)
mass: 500-5000; can use: cannons, tankguns, beamers, launchers

Mech Classes
LM - Light Mech
mass: 20-150, height < 14 blocks, should move only use fair walking without thrusters, movers, shfts etc, AGDs are allowed for balance; can use: trackers, cannons, tankguns, howitzers, launchers, beamers, shields, 1 sword.

HM - Heavy Mech
mass >350 or height >15 blocks; other rules like for LM, but cant use swords and (? discussing) cant use beamers.

Aircraft Classes
All aircrafts of corse can use shafts
(Aircraft classes can be any kind of aircraft, e.g fighter/gunship/bomber can all be helicopters/hoveringjets etc.

Fighter
mass: 100-9999, can use: thrusters, X-power of thrusters, all weapons apart of swords. Cant use wheels, shouldnt move on the ground and cant use AGDs

Gunship
mass: 150-9999, can use: all wepons, thrusters, swords can be used only like JP-type swordarmor also cant use AGD's

Bomber
mass:150-9999, can use: all weapons apart of swords, trackers, AGD's for balance. Can only use shafts for flight.

Ships - they are reworking the rules on this but apparently max 2 props, no trackers.

>>158194974
>lambda
That's greek, nigger.

>>158195070
The above is a resort of the exact information they sent me, so that's the ruskies problem not mine.

>>158195070
oh you meant in the name? I think that's how Alpha does their clan thing now.

the Russians tend to group up and build the best tech tanks they can. I originally thought they were workshop but they're actually building them between people to get the best design.

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Engineering General has lost the secrets to this design, only the old masters know how to build ball turrets with shutters.

>play engineering game
>physics go stupid and something that should absolutely balance does not
>get stressed

>did this instead of learning electronics because wanted to do something chilled out

ffs should have stuck to real engineering

>>158200608
>Trying to chill out
>By engineering
That only ever works if you have acquired True Autism.
Chilling out is far easier to do with games where you do the complete opposite and go around breaking shit, like Red Faction Guerrilla or something.

>>158200608
One day there will be a game that will be a true engineering game.

I actually learn programming and game development for that goal, however that goal is impossible by myself and would require a massive team to develop.

As it would need to have everything from structure stress to resistance of electricity in materials along with dyanmic destruction of enviroment and simulation of enviroment to case destruction and such.

Materials and so on.

Just too much work.

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>>158202160

>>158202261
>Earth Defense Forces

/egg/ approved EDF game when?

>>158200608
I HAVE TO DO A FUCKING MICROWAVE OVEN IN VHDL. THAT'S ENGINEERING (In university at least). VHDL sucks ballsSpecially if you have 1 one hour class per week and have no idea of how the retarded syntax works

>>158202160
>resistance of electricity in materials
For help with that sort of thing, there are actually mod devs for Minecraft that could help you if you actually start making something and run out of ideas.
Seriously, they have pretty high autism levels too.

No idea what language the newer engine works on though.

>>158202160
Electric components are piss easy to model. You can solve most DC circuits with a matrix. AC gets messy with impedance but it still is doable.

>>158202593
Now do it with a variable change in current over time, and all you have is a graph of it.

>>158202593
Unless you want to get autistic and go simulate drift velocity in conductors, that's some CHODE level of uselesness and autism.

>>158202653
What?

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>>158161365
ok. Ill play...
behold my favourite monstrosity

>>158203213
Now give it some areogel to protect it from lasers
And a webm of it in action

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>>158203461
Its realy boring to use. It vaporizes anything at 50km. But my favourite ship is pic related. Just disable range restrictions on railguns and you can destroy fleets 10 times its tonage.

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>>158163170
>landbotes

I got this

>>158204096
Are you using one of those cheese-the-integrator guns or is just because of the fact it spews a outrageous amount of dakka?

>>158202379
>VHDL sucks
but you can do basically everything!
so you can follow your dreams in VHDL ;^)

>>158203213
>263 Gt boosted warhead
...How the fuck did you manage that? I'm dying to know as I'm rather nonplussed with the puny missile payloads in the default options.

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>>158204305
im using stock 8mm railguns, but there is a glitch (i guess its a glitch) in its power consumptions.
If you use multiple pieces of a single weapon (two 100MW lasers for example) you need energy to power them both (2x100MW) but if you use railguns you dont have to do that. So to power 20 39MW 8mm railguns you need only 39MW of power. This allows you to put insane firepower on small ship. pic related is same ship with 20x39MW of power.

>>158205092
So it's bug abuse then

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>>158205081
It doesnt work anymore, I think it was "fixed" in some patch. I can still use it but I think I cannot do any modifications because it wouldnt let me save....

>>158205150
as far as it works...... maybe its intentional, maybe the guns alternate in firing so only one of them is using the power....

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>>158205403
>I think it was "fixed" in some patch.
Fug. There goes my hope of building a missle boat that spammed nukes worth a damn. Guess I'll have to keep fucking around with the module editor and hope for the best.

>tfw hard science

>>158205403
Maybe is because of that warning
From the patch notes
>- Fusion fuel density pressure is now an issue in nuclear warheads. Fixes boosted fission nukes behaving like pure fusion bombs.

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if anyone is interested this is the ship that launches it. Obviously its not suppose to be in combat and its %deltaV imroves massively with every launched missile.

>>158205929
Still can we have a webbum of the damage done to a formation?

Pls

>>158205929
>Obviously its not suppose to be in combat
You don't say.

>>158206089
sorry mate. there is really nothing to see.
Just bright white flash and fronts of enemy ships melt away. Most of the time it means that all command sections are destroyed.

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how do i make these resistojets stop spazzing out

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>>158180861
>no black windows

>>158200015
Looks pretty baller, please explain?

>>158204702
FUCK YOU TEACHER I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE HERE

P10 gas squad

Spengs noob here. How do I get rid of loads of stone I mined along with other stuff?
All I see are forum threads from 2014 that say there isn't really a way, did they add anything since then that makes it easier?

>>158213558
there is a stone dissolver mod, it adds a block that can eat up stone, gravel and iron ore

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=555230334&searchtext=desolver

>>158213558
Also, why do I die about 10% of the time when I get out of the cockpit? My character just drops dead. I'm using the asteroids scenario starter yellow ship.

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>>158213558
>>158213645
or you could just poop it all out into space

>>158213679
see image, it's a feature

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>playan osiris
>need titanium for dat forge
>trek 1500m from dome to look
>gang raped in the middle of the night, during a dust storm/whatever by arachnids
>die
>lose all my shit
>can't find any titanium

Time to make a nucannon with 1400 components, just to see what happens

>>158215270
post pics (and a webm if possible)

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My drills suddenly lost functionality. Cannot be turned on, even the UI elements are missing. What gives?
I have power and they aren't damaged. Used them before and they worked fine.

>>158215564
500mm, but with only 4m long shells. I may be a madman, but I'm not an absolute madman

>>158216221
Fucked up game.
Serb or SP?
Try reload, also try to update the status of the grid by painting one block and then go back to the seat to try.

>>158216416
Single player.
Tried quitting and reloading. Repainted the drill as you said, but didn't solve it. Also grinded it down and rebuilt it, still not working.

>>158216742
Realized I had a backup save about 10 minutes ago, thankfully they are still working there.

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So do small botes n' blens still work in ftd with all the new detection stuff?

If I can't still make tiny cute things, whats the point.

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I've made a terrible mistake

>>158216989
Ok, so I loaded my backup save, everything was working then the game suddely crashed.
Now my backup save has broken drills too. This is getting fucking ridiculous. I didn't even save over it, somehow loading and playing for 5 seconds corrupted it.

>>158217162
refund and get your money back


if you want something that works but is kinda limited get empyrion, make sure to pirate it first so you can try

>>158217063
396/1400, not bad

What's the mistake?

>>158217043
Go to hell, Sprey.

>>158217729
I pirated spengs in the first place.
So is there no way to get my save game unfucked?

I also played Empyrion before but I just can't get the damn drones to attack my bases. Even when I turn up the difficulty in the config files they just camp their drone bases, I wanted some action.

>tfw all your favorite vidya is made by god awfully incompetent devs
international dev gassing day when?

>>158218464
>gassing
>not death by clang

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>>158218250
i found a dev post

>>158218535
>implying they are worthy
we do not want to anger Him

>>158218557
Yeah, though technically that can be changed in the .yaml config files.

I went to another planet which had infinite drones settings, and in a few hours of playing not a single drone even came near my base.

>>158168850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPuO14OgTEc

ded

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>>158208552
Literally a normal turret with a housing around it to make it less useful.

>>158200015
explain tiny man, how do i build it?

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ded again

Any way to find resources easier in spengs than just flying from asteroid to asteroid and looking from close?
I've been looking for silver for the last 4 hours and i'm really getting bored as fuck. I can't even build a second ship since you need silver for the reactor.

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>>158230316
ded always

>>158184610
>>158179241
>> complaining about balance in an engineering game

Real life isn't balanced

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>>158233127
knock knock

>>158233434
Fuck off gaijin studios shill.

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>>158233434
Its a game, not real life anon. Therefore, it should be balanced. Like, at all.

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>>158234831
>everybody is a winner mind

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>>158235510
>having utterly useless weapons in a game is good design
Wew lad

>>158235510
Fuck off gaijin studios shill.

>>158235586
>shit players at chosing
>>158236480
Talking about all games, not just yours, take your pills.

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>>158236647
>>shit players at chosing
>weapons you start with are useless, and weapons that players have that you fight are optimal
>you need to win to get the good shit
>this is a good idea

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Good night /egg/

>>158236773
How is the skill celling?

>>158218250
Sometimes restarting the game and loading the save will work. What I'd so is back up the save (outside of Saves/) so you have a backup in case you get fucked again.

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>>158236993
>skill
kek

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>>158237373
If the skill celling is low or plain flat its a shit game.
Go play game for +5 games if you want everyone to be a winner and everything balanced in a competitive enviroment, more with this new freemium shit.

>>158237738
>defending jewery and exploits
Fuck off faggot, crossout is barely /egg/ as is, you rabid "fans" of "skill" need to fuck off.

>>158237738
You keep saying everyone needs to be a winner, as if you're projecting. You're not projecting, are you, anon?

The point I'm attempting to get across is that absolute optimum designs in a game where its possible to create your craft from scratch is retarded. It litterally defeats the purpose of being able to build at all. Don't get me wrong, every design being a good one is also retarded, but Cuckout is way the hell too far close to the former than the latter. Robocuck being the latter, for perspective.

Its not skill if all you need to do to win is copy someone else's design. That's called copying their design and claiming yourself skilled.

>>158237997
Can you read?
Im not defending anything of that, im saying that competitive grounds must have an unlimited skill celling, if you are a retard, chose wrong, and dont know your shit, you are a fagget.
>>158238074
What is balance all about?

>>158238074
>creating your craft from scratch defeats the purpose of making your shit to fight
Go and play overwatch... im fucking done.

>>158238160
Actually, you are, the original faggot was complaining about grate armor acting as immortality.
It's not a skill ceiling if you intentional abuse game mechanics to make it impossible to kill you.
And fuck off you shill, this isn't crossout general.

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>>158238160
>What is balance all about?
Not what cuckout is doing, that's for fucking sure.

>>158238347
You must have failed english class, anon. I said absolute optimal designs defeat the purpose of building. Take early robocuck gunbeds, for example.

>>158238442
I play space engineers.
I dont play neither robocuck, or that other rusky scam shit.
Learned long ago with world of tanks.


Ill say it again, take your pills.

>>158238523
Then why the fuck are you rushing on the kike defense train if you have no bloody stake in the matter?
Crossout and robocuck need to be purged from fucking /egg/ with the amount of retards they bring in.

>>158238652
Because im not defeding any kike. Im just saying what is the optimal setting for crafting games, and people fail too see the problem, and call a hunt for "balancing"

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If you give several people all the same weapon each, it's balanced.

If you give them each different weapons that are all unequal in power/usefulness, that is unbalanced, and they will simply try to all get the most powerful weapon. This eventually leads to the first scenario, making the situation useless.

If you make all the weapons different but actually pay attention to how they interact with other, making certain weapons better against each other in a balanced manner, then it is ultimately the same, but far more fucking interesting to play in a video game.

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>>158238983
>people exploit game mechanics in a jewish manner
>this needs to be fixed, rebalanced
>ackshully, there is no such thing as balancing ad it is alwaysh bad and beiple need to shtop whitchhuntering
ENGINEERING

Full retard mode: chemical warfare is the most optimal, we shouldn't have banned it 'cause of a couple (million) whiners after long, extruciating and immoral deaths during war-time, they just need to get good.

>not just making all your weapons have the exact same DPS, but just have different firing rates, and boolets that do different damage so that you end up with the big gun that does all its damage in one burst with a high chance to miss, a rifle type weaponwith medium fire rate and medium damage, and a weapon that fires really fast with weak bullets

>then do several more weapons inbetween those 3 main ones

>>158236647
>>158236993
>>158237738
>>158238160
>>158238523
>paiid gaijew shill shitting up the thread
>FOR FREE niggers nowhere to be found
>no one will be banned for this

>>158202593
AC really isn't much harder than DC. Non-linearity is where it gets complex.

The "cheat" solution is to just use SPICE (the original is BSD-licensed).

>>158239991
>chemical warfare
>not nuclear powered blanes with nuclear armaments

>>158240119
We still have nuclear deterrents, but chemical warfare is outright banned.

>>158207962
Remove resistojets. Use 2 to 3 gimbled main engines.

Be sure to make custom engines so bigger ships get bigger engines. I only bother with methane.

>>158240029
>FOR FREE niggers nowhere to be found
didn't some anons find ctr offices a while ago?

>>158202593
I thought this until one day I saw a schematic with wires leading from the circuit on one side of a transformer to the circuit on the other. My mind was immediately rendered incapable of handling anything and I started cheating to pass.

Seriously, how the fuck do you do the math for that kind of situation?

>>158240029
>lets talk about pay to win games
>he must be shilling
Not even doing native 1080p wont save your projection sanyo...

>>158241649
>shill gets caught dead to rights
>immediately begins to spam flares
>immediately begins to project and false-flag
pottery

>>158217928
I wanna get 1400/1400

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>>158240169
It's kind of annoying that. Nuclear deterrents don't work too well on extremists since they just go 'haha we'll make a base in the middle of a populated area'; chemical weapons would have the same problem except the area would be easier to clean up afterwards, so we'd only have to worry about the population.

>>158242450
Can you point out where is the shilling? and for who?
Im really interested.

>try playan crossout
>330+ ping, with 250 seeming to be the lowest it drops to
>spikes of up to 800ping
>fucking shitty russian/EU servers
>complain about it in chat
>"I only get 100 ping from the server. Must be your computer. :^)"

>>158242765
Try playing on servers that are on your continent, shit for brains.

>>158240095
I know. It just uses complex numbers and some other shit but once you learn it.. Spice uses what I told you, it reduces everything to matrix and find solutions based on that. Never took a look on how they do AC though.
>>158240825
You don't take that class because you failed other useless things because your teacher was a old gremlin that hates teaching :^)

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>>158239991
>>158240119
>>158240169
>>158242526
>these edgy underages share the same planet than the rest of us
Fucking hell obama you had one job.

Is there any point in building a space base on an asteroid in spengs besides being cool?

Can you do some automatic mining or something, or do you need to mine it personally with a ship anyway?

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>>158244217
ROCK. HARD. ARMOR.

>>158244624
Ni gg er

>>158244217
Because extrapolating on a balancing issue by referencing real life material is edgy.

>>158244217
>not being edgy for the sake of the edge
Tch, I bet you don't even own a katana to unsheath, or a classy fedora, kiddo.
typing this hurt inside

>>158244217
Besides that first point about large-scale weaponry being useless as 'deterrents' for enemies who gladly get their own people killed, I was making a joke son.
You might have been able to tell by me using a screencap of one of the most blatant Nazi stereotypes ever used in anime.

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>watching startrek enterprise
>get to episode where they have severe damage to the ship from a cloaked mine and send out a distress call for help with repairs
>they get a message with co-ordinates to meet for repairs
>they find an unmanned, automated space station that does repairs
>it scans everything on their ship and lists repairs out to the crew and asks how they'd like to pay for repairs
>the station has tubes on the sides that expand out to accommodate ships of basically any size, and the atmosphere inside the station can change to accommodate any species after it scans their DNA

This space station gave me boners.

>>158245209
>>158244935
shhhhh nothing personel, ________kid

>>158245612
Space Station 13 has a highly complex atmospheric model that allows you to change air chemistry, temperature, pressure. Since it's basically TTT: IN SPAAAACE, many traitors will make use of atmospherics to kill everyone on the station.

And yes, there's en entire room the size of an American Football field full of pipes, filters, and mixers that handles recycling and processing the air supply on the station, and pipes run throughout it to supply the station's demands and filter off CO2/Plasma.

It's fun to be atmos tech, although you never get to finish any projects. If you're into pipes autism, I highly suggest trying it.

>>158245612
I also receive hardons when encountering ENGINEERING ideas in usually non-scientific franchises
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Forge

>>158245209
I don't watch manga, why the fuck do you expect me to understand weebshit?

>>158246267
>5 minutes as virologist, botanist or atmos tech
>SINGULOOOOSE
And that is why I stopped using SS13

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>>158246267

>>158246418
>3 minutes in
>adeptus mechanicus overlorded the AI by reverse engineering it into trusting him

>>158246418
/egg/ had a singulo that ran for three months straight

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>>158246267
>>158245612
>tfw use all my atmos autism to create 20+ devastation bombs on most codebases
>get to remove entire stations at once

Never 5get /egg/station, fucker stayed up for 10 months~.

>>158246750
I played on /vg/'s servergot the fuck out of there once I saw the rampant avatar fagging and waifushit

Modernized 3D SS13 when?

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>>158248449

>>158248449
I've explained this many times: the gameplay would be completely different if it was 3D, and it wouldn't work. 3D also means you'd have to treat the map as a grid of voxels, which is more complex, and not in a good way.

>>158248750
I could see 2.5d, though.

>>158248650
das brew

>>158248750
it could work in straight up full 3d VR with the hand things. Modelling it and coding everything would be a son of a whore though.

Space Engineers is such a shit tier game. I will never again buy anything made by slavs.

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>crossouts in "alpha" and its already getting russian hackers playing

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>>158250857
>already
Nigger, they were there first day of the closed test.

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>>158254920
>modernized 3d ss13 when
>Reading comprehension

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>>158254920
>No one said a word about 3d

>>158248449
>Modernized 3D SS13 when?
>3D

Can you build a radar or something in spengs? How do you find cargo ships?
I want to be a spess pirate but I haven't seen a ship in hours.

>>158255102
look on the workshop, there is a radar with display.
Or just make your own with modded sensors.

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>>158255102
You can do something like that with rotors and programming. There's a few solutions on the workshop. I personally cheat and use a 3D radar mod.

I'd show you, but Spengies is currently refusing to load worlds on git master.