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>Atlas of Worlds information
general: https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds
atlas mechanics: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099
>2.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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FIRST
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turdbirds out
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>>158133169
if you aren't playing crit zerker spell casters you aren't even playing
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hardcuck free zone below this line
_______________________
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>there are people still playing Essence
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>there are people still playing poe
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caw
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>>158133405
>>158133501
Who are you quoting?
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>>158133405
>>158133501
>>158133651
Uh, could you please not post anime shit? It doesn't belong here.
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>>158133703
>chinese cartoon discussion forum owned by a japanman
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I have died over 10 times in hardcore in essence, I know now that hardcore is not for me but I still want to finish my challenges and that's the only league where I still have some currency left, give me a safe build that is unkillable, I will not reroll another character when I die this time
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>>158133703
Sorry
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>>158134017
lacerate slayer
rt aw chieftan
srs

all pretty cheap and not weak
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>>158134017
essence drain
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>>158134218
I have played over 20 ED characters

They all died

I'm that bad
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is taking 0.8% mana leech on the tree worth it as a duelist? would take me at least 4 points to get it

>0.8% mana leech
>0.4% life leech
>in 4 skill points

worth?
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>>158134261
well what challenges do you have left
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>>158134262
no
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>>158134354
Shape those maps
Warbands leaders
Guardians
Shaper
End game grind
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>>158134017
You could convert currency on the forums.
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Haha benis :DD
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nice servers
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>>158134893
:DDD
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I hurt myself today...
to see if I still feel...
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Reliable damage from controlled destruction > whimsical crit rollercoaster.
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>>158135296
and i feel fine
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>>158133343
underrated post
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>>158135346
Until you're levelled and geared enough that you can get both, sure.
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>>158135346
crit builds use controlled destruction
lol you're clueless kid
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>>158134017
i made a retardproof 220%+ life NODPS gladiator eq build in perandus
survive until lioneye's and become invincible

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQCAONqFm8kqjbpGmzkIilPZlSFe-w4GjiQVScvOth8u4NfTeP-jzWS2L3-Crc-g8w8LWhl892Rzrvt-Outjc9-dqzqGHzZ9zJyqVFg8wb7qgY5PQ_-VA3NK1Aczq-nxPbGrq4-Z5vkUVBH7w4UIFhjPfyMz_ZI6dV5OX7iGj5fP8EEeWhvO8AaqW534wHcI9OPYNZYTP9DMayvDPeplcC_029Gt0Cgeu8FLXTt2sGCmxLhouq2imLshO_Bgi_MZU29Nkd-hNnKkOlGxIKK8BXsuR3AZjwF73yf3wSzogDwH6ZXOuHyRZo7Bosg41_aCia-eGzY-AKS9w==
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>>158136295
how do I kill stuff with no damage
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>An unexpected disconnection
>For the third time today

GG GGG
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>>158136395
eq does okay damage with conc effect and you're fucking immortal
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>>158136680
I don't like male classes
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>>158136637
servers are just terrible right now, I'm on the Frankfurt one

have to make like 10 instances to get one without 300ms

I had to do cruel lab like that.
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I lost 5+ characters in lab because my connection was bad in the middle of traps
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>>158137048
I usually have graphics lockups in traps. Especially the fucking fire.
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t4 shapers orb on phantasmagoria or acid lake?
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>>158136637
Might have to do with all the gigantic ddos attacks from yesterday.
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give me even one good reason why you aren't playing incinerate berserker with vaal pact and blood magic keystone
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>>158137249
acid lake

phantasmagoria is easy and literally 0 backtracking but there are like 3 packs in total
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>>158136963
Pretty sure Frankfurt just comitted suicide.
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>>158137395
nice aoe mate
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>>158137395
I don't play male classes
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>>158137395
i wanted to play a fireball build
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>>158137636
rolling flames is dead
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>>158137249
Acid Lake.
Phantasmagoria layoutis nice and simple but the mob density is complete garbage.
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>>158135767
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Is IW a legit or meme way to scale ED
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What do people use pdps foils for?
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>>158138821
do the maths its ez

500 strengh = 100% spell damage

is it worth a gem slot ?

probably not
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>>158139410
what if you get 1k STR
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>>158139501
how do you get 1k STR without sacrificing in other aspects
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>>158139410
It can be worth it if you have some 300 STR.

60% right there - add in the base 38% spell damage and it's not too shabby.
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>>158139143
Reave and lacerate. Crit with Hatred and whatever else.
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>>158139547
I don't know, that's why I'm asking if others have tried before
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>tfw making a crit bow inquisitor

How fucked am I?
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>>158139907
terrible ascendancy choice for crit bow desu
you'll have no accuracy thus no crits
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>>158140004
lol

>>158139907
gonna die to rare reflect
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>>158140842
whats so funny you wanker
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I'm playing elementalist and my golems keep dying due to simple attrition. Is there an easy way to give them health regen without wasting any points on minion nodes or reserving mana for Vitality
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>>158141060
cwdt
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>>158141060
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Convocation
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bone_Offering
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Solid Slayer EQ build? Gonna use Marohi + Abyssus so I'm more worried about tankiness from phys.

>7 endurance charges
>195% life
>210% armor
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>>158141225
convocation is garbage for regenerating minion life
>8 second cooldown for 2 seconds of 116 life regen @ 20
I don't even know why it exists
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>>158141273
>Abyssus
Stopped reading there
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>>158141384
what's wrong with it? gives a ton of damage
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>>158141364
because it's an "oh shit" button for either you or your minions
calling them to you is part of it

the simple answer for him would be to grab the (probably) 1 point minion regen node in herd the flock
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>>158141430
turdbird item
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>>158141715
wut
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>>158141812
NEW
E
W
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give me your challenge league ideas

t. sirhc nosliw
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>>158142090
i challenge league where GGG finally fixes things that should have been fixed years ago
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>>158142090
shorten them to 8 weeks
release shit on time


wow fixed poe guys
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I haven't played this since 2013. Have there been any significant changes?
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>>158142090
>t. sirhc nosliw
can you speak english you fucking retard?
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>>158142090
Infinite Ledge
Blade Vortex only.

Infinite Ledge League would be solid though....
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Will they add essences to the base game after this league is over?
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>>158141585
I understand convocation's purpose as a leash to your minions, but the life regen is bafflingly awful
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>>158142552
Probably not, since they overshadow alchemy orbs.,
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>>158142374
Quite a few to be honest
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>>158142552
Maybe as an expensive zana mod
but I doubt it
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>>157996896
>free
>>158008624
>FREE
>>158008859
>free
>>158009286
>free
>>158012883
>FREE
>>158013904
>FREE
>>158013957
>Free
>>158035759
>free
>>158046198
>free
>>158053161
>free
>>158061956
>free
>>158113568
>free
>>158121760
>free
>>158122597
>free
>>158123104
>free
>>158131304
>free
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>>158142374
Too many to mention
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>>158142731
they will add them at a reduced rate
just like they did with strongboxes and ghosts and shrines and stuff
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How does poeg rate my newly bought (2 fuses price) 5L? I was too cheap for a tabula
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>>158142731
would be a shame to lose the non-tiered essences though
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>>158142374
Watch those in order:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIH2krIcWE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30K0SkT0T7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwCGT8ttfWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92SpXUJEIVs
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>>158142552
I hope so
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>exalts are 1:70 in Essence

Jesus CHRIST
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https://www.livechart.me/schedule/tv

Absolutely nothing good this season. The frick am I suppose to do until they release the channeling skills?
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>>158141812
>>158142040
HARDKEK DETECTED
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How do I kill the Shaper without resorting to an unfun snoozefest cancer build (babby vortex, cuckblast, snoozedrain, warchicken totems)
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>>158144358
retard
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>>158144358
I heard you can beat him with an added chaos gem and barrage
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I'm going to create a life-based essence drain scion and there is nothing poeg can do to stop me!!
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>ED
>scion

lelmaokek
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>30% reduced EQ duration helm
>20c min on poetrade
>40c for a good helm


>20/20 less duration and 30% reduced duration helm Earthquake occurs 0.165 seconds after the hit

>warped timepiece makes earthquake damage instant - pretty much a 109% phys + 109%(50% MORE)

>pretty much 2.5x your damage in a single skill gem in a fuckhuge AoE
>Heavy strike is 1.94x your damage to a single target in a single skill gem

hhhnnnggggg I need one but it costs so much
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>1 more month until essence league ends
fucking kill it now
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>>158144724
leagues used to be four months long but that was back when they did race seasons and other events all the time(in other words back when the game was fun)
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>>158144636
Made me giggle
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How good is Poison gem compared to dps gems like WED or Faster Attacks? Let's say for single-target only.
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Starting another fresh hardcore

tell me what to play
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>>158145269
cwdt zerker
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>>158145269
barbarian
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>>158145269
Magma orb?
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>>158143348
Who created the map device anyways?
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>>158144724
>stuck at T8/9 maps for a week because of shitty RNG
fucking shit, probably aint even gonna make it to guardians
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>>158145269
zero mana cost incinerate berserker with vaal pact and mortal conviction
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>tfw Paws just traded me
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Good and interesting triggers for a detonate mines gem?
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>>158146456
you'll have over 200% increased life and you could hypothetically use kaom's heart if you wanted
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ded
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>>158146778
Did you trade her your 6l shavs for the warm feeling that you're not a cuckold for a few seconds?
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>>158145269
Vortex Scion scaling DoT with a decay weapon
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I followed the meta and went Blade Vortex pathfinder this league, but I'm really confused now. I've reached level 86 and have a 6 link chest, vinktars, 8.5k ES as CI. My main issue is that I can't really progress past T11 maps that have pretty much any damage mods. I also can't seem to do uber Izaro as the difficulty is insane. He has wayy too much health and damage as I get 1 shot from almost every attack that isn't a regular swing. He shoots the green shit at my guy (which is unavoidable), slows me down, then leap slams for all my ES. I have tried to complete uber Izaro around 44 times now.
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>>158150436
>only 8.5k es
get more
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>>158150994
>Falling for a copy pasted forum post
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>>158151189
get more
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how did our guy steyox die
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>>158151974
loneliness
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>>158150436
I've killed izaro with only 7k es on my whispering ice char, as long as your damage is high enough he can't kill you.
You need the balls to be close to him when you are low on life and doge his attacks.
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>>158145223
Depends on your current mix of ele/phys damage as well as how you're attacking. If you deal >75% ele damage go WED. If you deal roughly 50-75% ele damage go faster attacks. Generally you want both faster attacks and poison, they help each other immensely.
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>play one hour
>get mentally exhausted
don't have it in my anymore, folks
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>>158145878
JUST
BUY
MAPS

they're literally 1-3 chisels all the way up to t13
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is there a worse feeling than ripping to a volatile just cause you zoned out and werent paying attention
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>>158154782
Dcing on traps in lab
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>>158154298
>1-3 chisels for t13 maps

go away shitcrow
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hardcawks
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>>158154782
ripping to a volatile while paying attention
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>tfw 32k es and can just facetank volatiles

hahaha lifebased cucks go away
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>>158155607

>SC http://poe.trade/search/arahiwareagara
>HC http://poe.trade/search/karitarimtotas

>barely 1c difference

it isn't any different on either league
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>>158145223
Functionally 18% more physical/chaos damage disregarding other bonuses to dots, chaos, etc.

Usually it's worse than other gems unless you build around it, but at that point there are usually better options to apply poison that doesn't waste a socket.
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>>158155938
>talking about chisels
>he talks about chaos orbs

retard
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>>158156569
>18%
I meant 16%, the base is 8% dps for 2 seconds
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>>158156659
we're talking about map costs

i know that might be too much of an abstract concept for you but try and focus a little and im sure will manage to follow the conversation
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>>158156818
who are you quoting retard? i was talking about chisels not chaos, you're not following the convo because you're literally a retard and probably a shitcrow too
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>>158157278
Are you a schizo or something? he didn't quote anyone.
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I made a life based character after hitting 86 on my ES one and man I feel so fucking gimped by life right now. Everything chunks me harder and I'm pretty much in melee range most of the time even with capped resistances in Merc.
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>>158157653
do you have 75+ life on all gear?
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>>158157653
Life simply sucks, you run right into a glass ceiling for your health pool.
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>>158150436
post your /deaths
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>>158157541
Fuck off, Shitcrow
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>>158160598
retard
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The worst part about shitcrows is that they just won't die; no matter how many times we kill them, they just keep coming back
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>>158160812
I've been a hardcuck ever since beta but will go softcore next league - I actually want to do content not just farm 9-10t maps.
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What is the best defensive option for crit frenzy facebreakers as a raider?

- Acro/Phase Acro dodge stacking with darkrays, Rat's Nest with lab enchant

- Iron Reflexes with block investment/Rumi's, darkrays or corrupted +1 frenzy boots (abyssus is more realistic here, but will probably still go with rat's nest)

Kinda torn since Raider and dodge go hand in hand but then gear/damage gets gimped.
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>fonts and conduits
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>>158161179
get capped dodge and capped block
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>>158161179
>darkrays
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>tfw you get life/mana leech if you killed recently on boots enchant

noice
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>>158161410
0.5 or 0.6?
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>>158161357
>>158161402
Any real answers?
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>>158139907
what game?
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>>158161758
0.4
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CI Warchief Hierophant?

Or Warchief Scion for that +1 totem in helm on Bringer of Rain, 3 totems with no damage % loss.
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hmm that 12% eq aoe increase enchant is alright. makes things a lot more convenient. i don't know if i want to keep this or keep grinding lab though. probably never going to hit that eq reduced duration
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>>158163156
that reduced duration is fucking OP as shit
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>>158163368
i'm fully aware how great it is. i'm just thinking how unlikely it will be to get it and how i'm better off just staying with this
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>>158161179
Raider isn't that bad.
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>>158163653
yes
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Does Chris already have a boyfriend?
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>playing melee
>it's a chore to level
>every time i get a new weapon i have to change my main skill
>after 7 painful hours decide to try a warmeme totem in a 5-link
>no risk, no more skill swap because i changed my weapon, huge aoe, insane atack speed

wew lads, ggg is retarded, melee is so fucked it's not even funny. I'm gonna go back to my mage, melees are no fun.
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>>158161179
I'm a level 93 with facebreaker +abyssus and going acro dodge will mean you're in one shot city consider acro dodge already has trouble with spike damage. Lightning coil would be good but capping resists will be pretty hard with so many uniques. Considering your position on the tree dodge will probably be your only option though.

>>158161186
It's a pretty good lab today, there's 2 unique dark shrines / intricate locker (another unique) and the jewelry silver box, its just slow as fuck
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>>158165237
What are the dark shrines for other than fucking you in the ass with curses?
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>>158165350
Increased monster life.
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>>158165237
>abyssus and going acro dodge
>one shot city
exactly why I don't want to ever wear an abyssus as an evasion character

There are good block nodes at duelist/ranger/shadow, but the IR tree either sacrifices life or crit. If you still keep on darkrays then you have plenty of block/spell block from the tree/rumi's and then around 25ish dodge/10 spell dodge at full charges.

How much life do you have at 93?
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>>158165673
I'm not a crit build, i'm on the entire opposite side of the tree, but i have 6.2k @ 198% increased life. With GG gear i'd probably have around 6.6k
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>>158167335
>meanwhile people easily get over 7k ES

dude life lmao
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>>158165629
And that helps you how?
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How much es should I have from gear? What should I get as a minimum on the body armour?

I made the mistake of going life and now I'm regretting everything
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>>158165350
The ones in the current lab are, monsters drop a bunch of rare jewelry and a monster will drop a unique.

Alot of them will fuck you up though, like 10% more quantity for 100% added fire damage and you're toast.
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6k hp, 7 charges and fortify and izaro's slam one shots me... what
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>>158169342
>meanwhile 7k CI just facetanks it and lifeleeches back up with VP

dude life lmao
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Infinite Ledge when

it's actually a legit idea, people have the most fun clearing hordes of mobs and watching their builds work.

>Infinite Ledge map
>beat boss
>boss drops Infinite Ledge map +1 tier
>like MH4U Guild Quests
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>>158169342
*blade vortexes near you*
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I'm trying to have a comfy run but people are setting off loud fireworks and screaming outside because of the cubs win.
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>>158169342
Probably crit
>doing the lab on shitty days
>not using fortify
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>>158169342
I'm running fortify + basalt + taste of hate + granite + a flask with 98% increased armour and can tank his slam crits with 4.7k hp.

Of course I'm also running a bv pathfinder so keeping them up is easy
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>>158168864
600 es on body armour is plenty
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>>158169583
>PoE's metagame has become so narrow that we actually want to remove all the flavor from the game and just have an infinite hallway simulator with blue packs and no fun
>but hey at least every shitty nolife map clear build is viable now
>and no need to grind for maps anymore let alone having any reason to play at all what a relief
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>>158169342
No excuse you have immortal call.
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>>158168864
i was fine with like 1500
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>>158169342
post pics/webm
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>>158170330
>metagame

there'd be no difference to having an infinite ledge map which gets harder the more you play than the current mapping system

>but flavor

just apply different tilesets and mob variety
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>>158169604
lets map together chicagofriend
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GGG should just put their hands on the wheel and balance the game instead of this bullshit they're currently doing.

BUT NOOOO WE GOTTA KEEP PUMPING OUT MTX
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>>158171130
>this is what based retards stuck at T7's actually believe
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>>158171317
u got a problem goy?
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Regarding skill gems, us there a trick to leveling them to 20? Im 87 now and my gems are still lvl19.

Also, when they finally hit 20, should I vendor them for the 20% quality recipe?
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>>158171481
I'm not life-based and I can do red maps just fine. But they don't drop ;-;

>>158171591
Spell or attacks? Spell gems really depend because you won't really have a backup one to replace that base damage loss if you vend it but attack gems scale in % most of the time so they're worth it more often than spells.
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>>158171130
>there'd be no difference to having an infinite ledge map which gets harder the more you play than the current mapping system
you are retarded
i'm not just memeing right now, you actually have a mental disability if you think acquiring maps and rolling mods on them to create infinite possibilities with risk/reward ratios is comparable to the idiotic "infinite ledge" idea.
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>>158171704
Called it.

Red maps are at the literal easiest drop rate to get with Atlas. You have no excuse.
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>>158171747
>rolling mods on them to create infinite possibilities

you mean
>just don't roll blood magic, reflect and you're okay!

unless you're some cursecuck who finds hexproof or rely a lot on leech or get fucked by regen

other than that damage for bosses is as simple as
>stack more life/ES/cap resistances

and the cherry for maps
>Beyond
>Packsize

it's not that complicated fag
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>>158171926
>literal easiest to get

they're still hard for how easy it is than previously especially when they don't give any returns, even more when it's literally all RNG
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>>158172036
based retard
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>>158172158
Are you even completing your atlas? I've been getting mad returns on maps with only 70% +1 bonus and a single packsize roll.
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how to fix poe

wipe all servers
implement infinite ledge, blade vortex only racing league
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>>158172036
Go back there.
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>>158171704
Attacks. Never looked at spells before, but I understand what you mean.
Do people just upgrade spells with GCPs? Sounds pretty expensive.
What priority do max quality gems generally have when building a character? Or does it mostly depend on the specific gem if the quality is needed at all?
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>>158172312
I've got 66% and only 6 more yellows to finish.

I only have 2 tier 9 maps and no 10s.
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>>158172741
>wjy9AIV.jpg

Why can't you redditors stay in your place and leave us alone?
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>>158172741
see
>>158172364
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>>158172741
That actually looks decent.

No homo.
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>>158172776
Just chisel+alch+chaos your T9s if you don't want to buy maps. It's ok to invest early sometimes.
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>>158172857
Kiss me
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>>158173807
ok
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>/poeg/
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What is the best skill to use with CWDT+culling strike?
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>>158175346
The answer is obvious anon, __BV__
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why do russians never use poetrade?
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>>158169342
life based build is dead. The only valid defense now is dodging and Energy shield. I clear Uber lab with 4k hp flicker strike. My Daresso endurance charge was up 100% of the time
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>>158175767
>get offer to buy my map for 1 chisel in broken english
>guy hands me 5 alts
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>>158172680
I suspect they level a second copy of their main spell in an offhand. Hit 20, quality vendor one, have another at 19-20 to use till the quality one gets up to 18-19 again.
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>>158172680
>Do people just upgrade spells with GCPs?
you can find gems with higher quality and sometimes they spawn at or close to 20%

but what usually happens is that you can vendor a level 20 gem with a gcp to get a level 1 20q version of the gem.
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>>158176241
>offhand
it's called weapon swap
offhand is where your shield goes
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>>158176707
Yeah, I need to go to bed.
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>>158175924
anyone that puts anything in the trade window other than what was negotiated gets the ignore
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So I just decided I'd masturbate, so I naturally opened an incognito window, but instead of typing in some porn stuff website I opened poe.trade by accident, am I too far gone
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>>158178253
I do literally the same and I haven't played in 4 weeks
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>>158178253
Depends on what you choose to fap to after.
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>try 15% ele reflect map
>cast once
>my ES starts vaporizing

why is this a thing

I'm using sybils ring for -30% less reflect and I'm Topaz flask for 81% lightning resist but I still die in a cast
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>how to tell if someone is a shitcorw
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>>158178253
Well, did you masturbate to something on poe.trade or not?
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>have almost 100 atlas bonus
>43 packsize wastelands
>get one tier 5 map
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>>158181084
how is crit multi bad?
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>>158180343
Do you not have Vaal Pact and leech ...?
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>>158182602
I do have VP and Leech. It still destroys me.
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>>158180343
>self casting in path of exile
only do this if you are vinktar tank
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>>158182715
I don't want to play X build because it's meta I play whatever skill I think is satisfying to use - that said this was on my Inquisitor, my Elementalist could do reflect because of that -50% reflect Ascendancy no problem.
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What are the requirements for Uber Lab? Any comparisons to mapping difficulties?
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>>158180343
Why is your vinktar down?
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>>158182368
not meta = bad
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Does "Global critical chance" effect spells?
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>>158182970
Yes
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>>158182970
Yes
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>>158182830
if you're on red maps then you should be fine
a lot of the map bosses are harder than uber izaro
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>>158183050
I find some Essence mobs harder than bosses

>Screaming Essence of Contempt
>regens like crazy
>has lots of ES
>has Warchief totems which fly to you and pound your ass
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>>158183006
>>158183012
thanks
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>>158183698
essence mobs killed our guy pt
that's how i know they are pretty scary
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>>158182762
GGG implementing -50% reflect damage on passives just shows how retarded they're.
Reflect is just another shitty mechanic that destroys build variety.
>>
Do CoC Discharge builds use Kingsguard for FREE life?
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>>158184382
a good game has carefully constrained damage scaling to provide for an engaging difficulty curve throughout, and interesting enemy behaviors to incentivize different defensive strategies
a bad game has you zone out while playing until you eventually kill yourself so the developer doesn't have to do either of those things
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>>158169342
>lying
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so I have two jewels that give 32% spell damage and 14% fire damage, I know the "fire damage"(and a few others) "double dip" but that doesn't mean spell damage is completely worthless right? Like spell damage increases the damage(duh) thus increasing the damage of the burn just without the double dipping.
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>>158182970
It only effects your ability to crit with Globes or crit the planet, so no
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>>158185439
he probably had all conduits and fonts up
on my ci bv he does like 8k with his slam with fonts and conduits
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SOMEONE BUY MY COSPIRIS SWORD
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>>158185778
I'll give you all of my currency
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>>158185868
Zeno pls go
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>>158185868
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>>158185868
>not using your silver coins

its like you don't want some mediocre loot every now and then.
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>>158186508
Maybe he's sub-70 somehow
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>>158186582
He has cartos and and almost 1k scrolls, so i doubt he's sub 70. He probably just bought some big ticket item or dumped all his shit into trying to 6L
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>do map
>no returns
>never get back into red maps
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Why does everyone keep saying LIFE IS DEAD LIFE IS DEAD? 2 leagues ago everyone was running life builds and no one was complaining... nothing much has changed except maybe t16 guardians can hit a little harder than other end game bosses, but to say life is dead based on that?
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i'm making a pure RF chieftain bros. anyone done uber lab or guardians with that shit? post opinoins
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>>158189178
its more woe has meant ES is easy to get
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>>158189178
if you aren't new to the internet, then you should know how this works already
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>>158189178
I was heavily specced in to health at lvl 90 with about 2ex worth of high-health roll gear and was a bit shy of 6k health.

I just regretted 90% of my tree in to ES. Spent about 40c on some low-mid tier ES gear and now have a healthpool of almost 9k (and a 30% dps boost). It's just too easy to get high ES pools compared to health.
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I'm trying out crit freezing pulse
I'm clearing packs in a single cast, but my single target sucks dick
I was wondering if I should pick up another skill to deal with bosses, Ice Spear perhaps?
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>>158189178
>>158189292
BV synergizes very well with it adding to it the end game bosses can easily hit someone with good defenses for 5-6k.

People are overreacting because when you play a CI character you're always one step from a heart attack since you rely on life leech and if it fails for whatever reason, you're dead, so your ES is always fluctuating, most people don't like this lack of control.

Another thing, CI is very difficult for duelists and marauders to build around which screws with some melee archetypes since most ES nodes are on the other side of the tree. This type of meta sends a big fuck you to archers too since building a CI archer is awkward as fuck.

I won't go over hybrid because it's more expensive than CI.

I think people wouldn't complain so much if there were more skills at the top instead of the big 3 memes.
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>>158191007
>if there were more skills at the top instead of the big 3
That would require GGG to stop shitting out stupid uniques that nobody gives a fuck about and that nobody will ever use, and instead look at the roughly 70% of all skill gems and 50% of the skill tree that are utterly useless.
>>
0-6 Play PoE
7-9 Play Civilization and go for Religious win.
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>>158191819
good for you.
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>reflects elemental damage
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>self-casting on something other than elementalist
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>psh, pathfinder can't be that good, i'll try it just to show it's not much better than a properly optimized version of a different ascendancy
>complete normal lab
>nature's adrenaline
>mfw
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>>158193091
>elementalist
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>>158172741
that's actually not bad
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>>158193215
even after conflux nerf, it's top 3 ascendancy
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I've been using Wither the wrong way my whole life, putting it on a 2L spell totem isn't good enough, self-casting with faster casting and increased duration is FUN

20 stacks = 140% increased chaos damage within 2 seconds of channeling

SO
GOOD
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>>158193856
>2 seconds of channeling
try using it with spell totem, fast cast and duration

same effect, and you can keep moving
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>>158193854
>top 3 ascendancy
what are the others?
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>>158193856
Source desu?
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>>158194587
Cuckfinder and Slayer
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You have .25 seconds to tell me why you aren't grinding prophecies for insane currency returns and little investment, /poeg/
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>>158196596
>playing poe
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good ubers when
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What's the optimal starting path for an archer? What should I get rid of?
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>>158171317
At least the mtx are cheap
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>>158199847
good one, anon.
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have they announced the competitive race yet?
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Does the Voll Slam that like 90% of bosses use these days even deal bonus damage?
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>>158199295
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>>158162262
Dragon Age Inquisition, I suppose
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>>158199295
Only take the first projectile node, then path out through the evasion/life nodes. Going up through Heart of Oak for Projectile Mastery can be good, especially if you're going crit; if you're going crit, pathing through Aspect of the Eagle to the bow crit/as nodes and Aspect of the Lynx can be good.
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>>158196596
i did that, made more money grinding maps
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>>158144358
You can beat him with BlackHoletrex, burning herald of thunder, viper strike and everything else if you have enough damage.
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what was the program that showed you the poe.trade prices in an overlay when holding your mouse over a unique?
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Is 1k dps too low for level 44? I use Ice Crash
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Hey meemers, Just came back to PoE after a few leagues break, how's CI Blade Vortex doing right now?
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>>158182368
This points are not bad they just don't give much. If I were taking them they would probably the last points on my build.
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>roll good ES boots
>check similarly rolled boots to gauge the price of them on poe.trade
>there's none like them even among offline items

what do
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>>158198743
wtf i want to play d2 now
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>>158200471
Is the second projectile node not worth it? It seems above average.
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so is stun supposed to be the melee equivalent to frost?

Cause its broken at low levels.

https://youtu.be/LuyizOUc-Js?t=21s
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>>158201939
it is definitely worth it
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>>158202703
>Cause its broken at low levels.
lol
at low levels you one-shot shit what's the point of stunning things
lol
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>assence league starts
>take my time with it
>only play 2-3 hours a day
>still complete 36 challenges within three weeks
>get bored
>quit
>have to wait 10 weeks before i can do it again

if i actually tried i could complete 36 challenges within a week and a half

this game sucks
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>>158203470
you bought challenges, irrelevant
>>
https://clips.twitch
.tv/ziggydlive/FilthyGorillaAthenaPMS

our guy..
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>>158203385
>one shoting koam at lvl 38

what build?
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>>158203825
not relevant, you could kill him in the same time with raw damage with just a 3L BV in a lifesprig
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>>158203551
i only bought two challenges nerdling
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>>158202703
Stun, like roughly 90% of all skills, simply stops working somewhere around 60.

If you have a build that is built around such a skill, you can then make a new char and try again.

In PoE, we call this concept 'build diversity'.
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Lucky me, my first 6l this league.

item level: 80
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>>158204070
1 challenge or 10, stills marks you as a fucking casual in my book

nothing to be proud of 2bh
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>>158204316
getting 34 challenges on my own and then buying guardians and shaper kills makes me a scrub?
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>>158204364
makes you a casual

literally anyone could do the same if they sat in /820 all day waiting for challenges to be bought or fall in their lap
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dupe any good essences today, /poeg/?
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>>158204364
>does bypassing the newly introduced content that separates good builds from bad ones makes me a scrub
gee, I wonder

why indeed build a guardians viable character if you're just going to stop at t15 or below
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>>158204610
>>158204450
so utilizing everything at my disposal makes me a casual?
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>>158204854
relying on others to accomplish things makes you a casual

bragging about the game being too easy when you purposely avoid challenge makes you a hypocritical

not sure how can I be more straightforward with those definitions
if you were casually stomping shaper 5 times a day on a SSF character 3 weeks into the league, then sure you might have some authority to say the game is too easy
>>
>>158204961
are you sure using 820 and buying boss kills doesn't just make me a smart player?
>>
>>158205067
it makes you both.
>>
>>158205067
makes you a casual

your intelligence is not in question here, casuals can be smart, but they remain casuals
>>
Is there a budget way to go without a skyforth? Without wasting a gem slot using that gain power charges on crit?
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>>158205112
why is mei so fat
>>
>>158205141
>>158205112
doing things the hard way makes you objectively a retard
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>>158205285
by that logic, you should play softcore

hardcore players choose the "hard way" because it's more fun that way, sorry that concept flies way above your head
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>>158205408
shitcore is boring
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>>158205457
so is buying challenges then quitting because the game is "too easy"

at least you completed the level 90 challenge on your own, very impressive benchmark those days
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>tfw no tabula this league

:(
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>>158205501
you're an annoying retard
>>
>>158205551
would rather be a retard than a smart casual like you desu

by the way, if you were so smart, you probably wouldn't be playing poe in the first place
>>
>>158205408
now that depends on who you are.

If you like gambling or not.
How risk for reward are you
eetc etc
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>>158205591
playing shitcore and some high dps build is the fastest and surest way to 36 challenges, so by his own logic he's a retard for rolling in hardcore then having to wait for someone to offer boss kills to get his last few challenges
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>>158205535
is that guy in black holding a spear??
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>>158201939
Yeah, I got distracted by the rest of what I was saying. Shoulda said "first and probably second."
>>
Prediction:
As a knee-jerk to how popular ES is this League, the CI Keystone will get a Nerf to "Your Chaos Resistance has no maximum."
>Now you need Chaos Resist rolls if you go CI
>This raises price of Chaos Resist gear and makes it not nearly as accessible, but still quite good
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>>158207181
>makes CI completely unusable until you amass many pieces of gear with chaos resist

Poor design. You could say that you already need to get a lot of ES gear before you can switch to CI, but theres a big difference between having 2000 ES and having any ES but 99% chaos resist and getting one shot to any chaos damage because of it.
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>>158207181
just go ll with a shavs lol!
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>>158207181
nice Chaos INOCULATION keystone, retard
redditshits like you really need to jump off a bridge
>>
man, maaaaaan. i have to kill shock and horror to progress content? this nigger still gives me nightmares and has ripped me more often than any other boss even when massively outleveled. people who to pay progress content are the biggest fucking scum and i will hate myself forever if i do it, but it's looking like i might have to do this
>>
>>158207397
This was already true, Anon. CI was gated by having good enough gear to have enough ES to make it usable, which required gear with good ES rolls in addition to your normal Defenses.
The barrier to entry has been slowly coming down, plummeting this League to the point almost anyone can make a CI build for nothing.
And it's outright better than Life by a landslide, people see it now.
So they're going to either change CI (Low-Life still has the high barrier of entry known as Shav's, so that's fine.) or make a change to ES values again.
>>
>>158207573
>which required gear with good ES rolls in addition to your normal Defenses.

As opposed to gear with good life rolls in addition to normal defenses? Retard.
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>>158207570
shock & horror is a girl you fucking RETARD
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>>158207573
>The barrier to entry has been slowly coming down, plummeting this League to the point almost anyone can make a CI build for nothing.
Tell me how much a white 6L vaal regalia costs again? Surely everyone and their sister must have replaced their 10c tabula with it by now OH WAIT
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>>158207689
you don't play melee
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>>158207618
Good life and normal defenses cost far less than identical ES gear before, but cost roughly the same now, yet ES is infinitely superior.
Retard.
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>>158207798
>6L is mandatory for every build
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>>158207854
Why are you stating the obvious? The original conversation was about anon's dumb suggestion to change CI, which would absolutely require you to have 100% chaos resist to not get one shot. There is no "absolute requirement" for CI as it is now, nor is there for life, but his suggestion would mean CI would be LITERALLY unplayable until you had over 100% chaos resist, because it would instantly one shot your 1 health.
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>>158207942
Why would you downgrade a readily available 6L into a 5l? Are you retarded? I bought a shitty 20c corrupted 6L with 100 life and 40 res 2 days ago and it's going to last me well into my 90s, can you do the same on your CI build "for nothing"?
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>>158208124
>Downgrade
>Giving up a huge amount of defense for a 6L
I will leave this conversation be, go sit in the corner and think about how retarded you are, young man.
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>>158208097
>What is Shavs?
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>>158208328
Oh sure, you're a special snowflake switching to CI on a 5L, sure, let's ignore the ludicrous price of the chest itself, how about a 300+ ES hubris? 500+ ES shield? 120+ ES belt? 300+ ES boots? 200+ ES gloves? those come for "nothing" too I imagine? Tell me me more about how you can get a "huge amount of defense" on the same budget as life when there's up to a 10 ex difference between the prices of 6Ls
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r8 my dumbass ideas
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>>158208736
>Have 7000 life
>350% Increased Critical Strike Chance
Eh. It's pretty meh.
>>
>rogue exile running around in the Lab
>trying to kill you instead of Izaro

How did they even get into Sarn first?
>>
>>158208482
something that makes chaos damage not go through ES and has no relevance to the conversation?
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>>158209090
Rogue Exiles canonnically, are just like you. On a Quest to do things.
But mechanically, they're just monster.
Basically, it just works, get over it.
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>>158205218
mei is just a lil chubby
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>>158209494
You really are fucking stupid.
>>
>an unexpected disconnection occurred
>log on on standard
just another day in hardcore
>>
>>158208736
>>158208805
350% crit and however much multi from an amulet alone is pretty crazy m8

would need insane accuracy rolls on virtually every other piece to make up for the %less dex though
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>>158185868
R8 mine.
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>>158209915
Oh I agree, it's pretty insane, but the drawback is also really rough. In addition how many good Crit 2H Maces do you see on an average day?
And in addition, there's barely any Crit on left tree, so 350% alone while good, isn't really that great.
>>
>>158209760
call you're isp
>>
>>158210159
it would be pretty easy to cap crit with that and a hege's
>>
>win10 anniversary update
>suddenly getting shit fps
>try all different graphics options
>update drivers
>disable xbox dvr
>nothing works

nice game poetards
>>
>win10
nice botnet you got there
>>
>win10
lmao
>>
first of all they're dropping support for win7 by 2nd quarter next year(that's like 6 months from now)

second of all i have a skylake CPU
>>
>>158200725
Yes.
>>158200872
Still good
>>158201659
Better use me noggin
>>158204528
No.
>>158205067
Makes you a fag
>>158205187
No
>>158205218
Ask yourself that.
>>158205786
Yes
>>158207618
No
>>158210681
Moran
>>
based retard
>>
>GGG doesn't optimize their game for the most popular OS

literally lol out loud
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>>158211142
>Win10
>Most popular
7 is still most popular even after the massive freebie waves of 10.
>>
>Still no Divine or Eternal Flask recipe
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TURN ON POE
3.0 PATCH NOTES
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>>158211625
shut up weeb
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>>158211747
Rude.
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it does this every few minutes

literally unplayable
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>>158211893
just lost a character to this shit
>>
>Have been using the same shield since level 11 or so
>Am now 61
It's mostly cause shields just don't drop for me on this character for whatever reason, but still.
>>
>>158212127
Shields drop all the time in poe.trade, check it out
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>>158212443
Eh, thing is, I don't need it.
I already have the 2 Swords I'll be swapping to at 68, so there's not much point, but it's still surprising.
>>
is there anything better than a post rip fap? feels like it soothes the pain a bit...
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@158205551
the only retarded thing he did is keep replying to you
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>>158212951
https://exhentai.org/g/90076/9796041a16/
https://exhentai.org/g/930460/d8b6153fed/
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>>158210951
What amount dps should I have?
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>>158213032
>bestiality
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>>158213032
>dog
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Fact: you will NEVER find passionate players like this in PoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i6PFEmltCw
>>
How do I learn to make my own build so it isn't trash?
>>
>>158214538
you play a lot, find out the pros & cons of each skill at high level ( maps )


follow simple guidelines : take the shortest paths to the 'wheels' you want to take.
when selecting a type of defense ( armour, eva, block, lots of ES, etc ), focus on it and optimize it. Having a bit of everything ( some block but not too much, some armour, some crit but not enough to be a crit build, etc ) will always result in a terrible build.

pick a skill, pick a form of defense that suits your starting area, then experiment.

go on the wiki, I play the game since closed beta but I still visit it regularly.
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rate my chest
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>>158214918
>shitcore

fuck off turdbird
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^mad cause you don't have a 1k es chest and i do
>>
i found a 1050 ES chest in HC talisman you FILTHY little POOPIGEON
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>still playing this game
I unironically haven't logged in for 2 weeks and not feeling the pull to come back.

I AM FREE.
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https://clips.twitch
.tv/ziggydlive/FilthyGorillaAthenaPMS
>Life is viable
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>get a full respec when patch hits
>decite to change the build on a whim
>completely fuck it up
>>
>standard
>>
>>158215865
why are you still here then..?
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>>158213032
>>
did the weebs just wake up
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>>158196596
i'm playing granblue instead right now
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>>158215865
>softcore shitter who died and thinks everyone else should care about how much of a shitcrow he is
>>
>>158216136
>enfeeble+vulnerability
>no utility armor/phys reduction flasks
>doesn't use life pots immediately when he has 2

I thought ziggyD was the best player in poe?
>>
>>158217684
love when the armchair specialists comment on a rip

what are your achievements on ehc? ziggyd made it to t15 on a MELEE EVASION build, can you do the same?
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>>158214889
Thanks mate
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>>158217779
>to criticize a painter, you must also be a painter of equal of superior skill
>to criticize a musician, you must compose better and higher quality music than said musician

Go away ZiggyD.
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>>158218065
whatever he did, it was obviously working out for him up until t15/t16
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>>158218131
guy obviously wasn't that into playing the character anymore after getting shav's
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>>158218131
>someone chooses a retarded build
>get pretty far but not shaper/guardians far
>let's all applaud him and suck his dick for choosing a shit build and getting almost as far as shaper

ZiggyD viewers on damage control.
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>>158218065
>It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

- Daresso, King of Swords
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>>158218346
#btfo
>>
how much do you want to bet the GGG hasn't even designed a single other channeling skill besides that shitty "not-incinerate" skill.

They are probably frantically trying to come up with new ideas because they know the community shitted on their sneak preview bullshit skill
>>
>implying GGG even works on this game

they throw everything on their interns a week before the new league begins while they count their money and laugh at the dumbfucks who buy their crap
>>
the other two channeling skills were in game files for weeks you fucking RETARD
>>
>>158219357
Who cares shitter? You could add whatever placeholder skill you want, doesnt mean its actually functional.

Have you SEEN THEM?
>>
>>158217362
I actually took a break from gbf to start playing poe again. Coming back for GW I guess.
>>
>>158219730
blight is used by plageumaw in game
blade flurry is used by map kraityn and chimera in game
>>
>>158219730
>Have you SEEN THEM?
Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen, and yet have believed.

- John 20:29
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>>158219854
christfags go
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chris lets his game die 10 months of the year

chris complains about player retention and profit loss

chris is a fucking retard
>>
>>158219973
Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding.
Who determined its measurements—surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
On what were its bases sunk,
Or who laid its cornerstone,
When the morning stars sang together
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

- Job 38:4
>>
>>158220123
>chris lets his game die 10 months of the year
except he doesn't
>chris complains about player retention and profit loss
except he doesn't
>chris is a fucking retard
except he's not

go buy more challenges, retard
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>>158219775
gw a SHIT
magfest is nice though, murdering the shit out of this snake
>>
>>158220456
he does

he has

retard
>>
>>158220528
good post
>>
>>158219821
>blight is just a purple version of tendies
>blade furry is just flicker strike

GGG apologists will defend this

Great new skills if that's actually what theyre adding
>>
Why are summoner builds completely dirt-cheap?
>>
>>158220739
>ice spear is just cold fireball
off yourself
>>
buff lightning tendrils
>>
>>158220492
Fuck that snake specially since fenrir bows exist. I'm too lazy to magfest since all I need to do now is >>chev<<
>>
>>158220812
le old strawman, meme

;^)
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>>158220998
I dunno when fenrir's coming back and I'd like my main element to not be complete trash in the meantime, so
good luck with your noswords though
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>>158220812
I wish, then it would actually be good

>non splash skill deals less damage than splash skill
>after they removed shotgunning but still allow aoe to overlap

Bravo GGG
>>
>>158221097
it's called an analogy

you're welcome to defend your position but since you're comparing yet to be released skills with existing ones, it's obvious you're just a retard shitposting

>;^)
back to discord, underage faggot
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>>158221247
>back to discord, underage faggot

le ole' ad hominem, meme
;^)
>>
>You can put any 2 full Ascendancy Trees together
>With 12 Points total
Which 2 and why?
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>>158221569
oh look
it's retarded
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>>158220859
delete this skill it's inherently bad
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>>158216983
To laugh at the depressed anime poster
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>>158221673
Scion and Scion
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>>158221851
ur inherently bad
>>
>>158221673
Necromancer and Pathfinder.
>2 points for Mistress of Sacrifice
>10 points into getting all the Flask Effect nodes on Pathfinder and all but 2 Notables
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>>158221673
Occultist + Trickster

Profane Bloom, Malediction, Wicked Ward, Vile Bastion, Ghost Dance, Shade Form
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>>158221673
Necromancer and Raider for my Dual Scourge Flicker Strike memebuild.
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>>158221673
Inquisitor and Occultist.
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>>158222132
>Flicker Strike
I love how it plays and the clear speed is amazing, but how do I make it not complete shit againt bosses?
>>
>>158222420
There is no way because GG won't let us have anything that gives Frenzy on hit, except Oroflicker which has it's own severe limitations.
>>
Show me a single fucking build that uses Ice Bite or Innervate

These support gems are garbage.
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>>158222858
you're garbage
>spoonfeed me please
fuck off
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>>158221673
assassin slayer for the memes
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>>158136395
kill them with boredom
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>>158222858
innervate is obviously worth a gem socket in a starforge build and is in no way a literally useless gem
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>>158222858
>mfw gaining charges with Ice Bite+HoI while using ice spear didn't work
>>
>Pendulum of Destruction
So is this a 10 second rotation where it's
>6 seconds of nothing
>4 seconds of AoE and Elemental damage
Or a 14 second one of
>10 seconds of nothing
>4 seconds of AoE and Elemental damage
>>
>>158150436
>meme vortex
>dying to uber izaro
>difficulty is insane

Uber and merc is almost the same shit, wtf man

Killed him playing as righteous kek SCION, it was kind of esasy tho. My greates problem running labs are disconnect issues

git gud or buy carries
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>>158223587
First one.
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>>158223551
it works with frost blades
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>>158222858
>These support gems are garbage.
Like most of the gems.
GGG is too busy making more MTX and meme uniques to actually unfuck the 80% or so of gems that are useless.
>>
>>158223720
I suppose it might work if I scale HoI really hard. Any suggestions?
>>
>>158223631
he probably did it on a hard lab day
>>
What's a fun Shadow build? Preferably one that isn't trash
>>
>>158223658
>It's asymmetric with Shaper of Desolation
That's retarded.
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>>158224146
rain of arrows mines with cospri's will
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>>158223889
Most of the gems see niche use, but there are a few gems that I have literally never seen used unironically.

>Endurance Charge on Melee Stun
>Ice Bite
>Innervate
>Block Chance Reduction

It is baffling to me that these still exist and remain unchanged
>>
>>158224336
block chance is a pvp gem
>>
>>158224457
>pvp

lol
>>
>>158224534
>this is why this gem exists
>why won't they make it good!
don't post here anymore
>>
>>158224336
>Endurance Charge on Melee Stun
I agree, this needs to go.
>Ice Bite
It's alright for general clear, shit for bosses, just like everything else.
>Innervate
Same boat as Ice Bite.
>Block Chance Reduction
Hall of Grandmasters.
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>>158224146
kb mines saboteur
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>>158224336
>link Leap Slam onto EndCh. on melee stun
>leap into packs
>never have to enduring cry to keep up charges

How is this useless lmao
>>
>>158224336
>>Endurance Charge on Melee Stun
Vengeance/Reckoning + Stun + Endurance charge on stun
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>>158224675
how's that six link leap slam treating you
>>
>>158224675
poeg is fucking clueless

these retards actually think they're good when they can't figure out how a commonly used support could be used
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well all the good players got bored and quit so all that's left is literal noobshitcrows
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>>158224906
Works fine for me in a 4-link
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>>158224675
how is leap slamming any better than just pressing enduring cry
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>>158224906
You literally only need faster attacks on a leap slam to make it viable.
Add endch on that and you got 3 links.
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>>158225459
You're already leap slamming to get from pack to pack (and maybe proc fortify if you're a poopcrow that doesn't have it in main link), you goddamn retard.

>this is your brain on whirling blades
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>>158225459
because it's your movement skill and it saves you one action/warcry? christ you're retarded
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Who would you?
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Okay /poeg/ I think that's enough embarrassing yourselves for one day.
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>>158225797
>>158225798
retards
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>>158225797
I'd put fortify in main link if it was generic damage instead of phys, but I guess GGG just loves to fuck weapon ele builds over.
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>>158225991
our guy pt of course
>>
how big is the difficulty jump between guardians and t15 bosses?
>>
>>158225503
you like leep slamming around normal twilight strands
>>
>>158226219
guardians have like 5-10 times more health than t15 bosses
>>
>>158226219
pretty big
>>
>>158226006
need an "added physical damage" support that adds flat phys to anything
>>
>>158225991
>PT
A god

>Hegemony
So irrelevant his existence physically upsets me

>LiftingNerdBro
Retarded shitcrow and scammer who makes horrible guides
>>
>>158226219
Overgrown Ruin > Core > Guardians > Colloseum > Abyss

Depends on your build anyway.
>>
>>158226491
jesus thatd be OP as fuck.
>>
>>158226497
pt is an autistic hippie hobo who makes shit tier builds while hegemony is a suave smooth asian master who understands the game on a meta level
>>
>>158226497
>make offer that other people voluntarily take
>scammer
no liftingturdpro is just dumb
watched him flail at guardians/shaper as a summoner without even once using slower projectiles with his spectres
i noticed he has "science" in his interests. is he a "i love science" person or does denmark have really low standards for its stem majors
>>
>>158226491
What

No
>>
>>158226881
>>158226881
our guy pt experiences the world on a higher level than most, and appreciates and considers all things in ways that others do not
he understands the maxim that literally everyone else is retarded
he is truly the best and the brightest that path of exile has to offer, and when he dies to an essence mob, it's because he knows that rolling a seething flask is beneath him
>>
>>158227497
dude shut the fuck up
>>
>>158227497
Chuckled
>>
where do you find the daily lab map layouts at?
>>
reminder that PT killed uber atziri playing solo self found HC

reminder that PT makes his own builds

reminder that PT is better than you
>>
>>158158253
>life simply sucks

ikr
>>
>>158227812
reddit :)
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>>158227812
poelab.com
>>
>>158216136
The amount of mistakes he makes in that boss fight is hilarious. He probably ripped on purpose because he was sick of the char
>>
>>158223992
>tried to beat uber izaro 44 times
>tried on a hard lab day

KEK
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>>158227891
thanks, anon
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>>158227857
https://clips.twitch
.tv/projectpt/DoubtfulOxEagleEye
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>>158228396
that potion discipline
>>
>>158228396
in his defense he was drunk
>>
0-4 big ass gyaru slut
5-9 small breasts pure childhood friend
>>
>>158228396
in his defense killing Hillock with shadow is literally harder than Shaper

Fuck Viper strike
>>
>>158228683
what the fuck
shadow hillock kill is the easiest and fastest
and he's not even playing a shadow
>>
>>158228763
no
>>
how the fuck can you possibly be braindead enough to die to Hillock

what the shit man
>>
>>158226497
Heges pretty awesome though and he makes great guides.
>>
>>158133405
>>158133501
>tfw quit poe during essence
feels like shit senpaitachi got nothing to play at all depression creeping in from everywhere but i just cant play this trash shit amateur kiwi game anymore.
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>>158191775
diablo 4 will come out sooner than ggg will balance the skill gems
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>>158229580
I know that feel
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>>158229580
cave shooters are on sale on steam
but you are probably a degenerate, low-skill rpg player, so maybe eternal destiny is better for you
>>
>>158230059
i play everything, from obscure text games and roguelikes to generic esports mobas and overwatches through rpgs, argps, jrpgs, 4x, rts, rhythm games and whatnot. But i dont play bullethell shumps, they are just stupid "guide a dot through labyrinth" pseudogames.

but cave shmups actually look fun and not as autistic as the touhou garbage, ill give it a try, thanks
>>
>>158229580
im depressed and am still playing
at least when i play i no longer feel suicidal even if temporarily
>>
>>158231050
stop playing
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An interesting fact about elemental damage mastery cluster. An average person will connect the nodes as shown in the left example. The right configuration implies latent homosexuality.
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>>158231587
The correct arrange is as follows, as the only reason to take anything in that cluster is to get 2% fire pen.
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>>158152713
Uber with 7k ES? Not him but I wanna try Uber Izaro, Merc was pretty easy
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>>158231587
You forget the ice option ;^)
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>still no new skills
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>>158228882
You still with this fucking "i'll no reply to anybody but still answer them" meme? People here are far more retarded with each passing day.
>>
I said I wouldn't reroll but I'm rerolling because my latest death doesn't count I died to a lag okay so it doesn't count I'm still rerolling
>>
It's not a meme Anon, it's a way of life. Gosh, you just don't understand me, I wish I was never deliciously char broiled.

You knew who I was referring to. I see no problem here. I'm sorry you did not receive the (you) that you desire so much.
>>
@158233287
it's a meme you dip
>>
>>158230792
As much as I do enjoy the occasional 2hu game, they really did ruin the genre for potential new players who think all shmups are like 2hu.
>>
>Celebrate Halloween with a free box
>Isn't free
Why is GGG so stingy?
>>
will a new league make make this game fun?
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Is Skullhead or Leer Cast better for your average minion build?
>>
>>158234087
why are you so entitled?
>>
infinite ledge
literally nothing wrong with this concept
you just grind until the ledge gets harder and harder
>>
>>158234168
It never does.
>>
>>158234364
>>>/d3g/
>>
>>158234357
>Claim they are giving you free thing
>Is not free
Why are you so dumb?
>>
>>158234364
mobs gain affixes and ai behaviors as the the ledges progress
npc camps will appear randomly, guarded by packs of strong mobs with minibosses
>>
>>158234702
>no free jack o' lantern pet that bounces around behind you
>>
>>158234702
probably because it's easier to fit "free" on a ad than "free but only if you spend any points elsewhere and as such this offer is limited to people who want to get a great deal with extra mtx on top of anything they would purchase during this limited period"

retard
>>
Ability to sell mtx when
>>
>>158234893
Why not "Bonus Box with next purchase?"
It's not hard to not be misleading and still short.
>>
>>158234893
I never thought I would actually see someone defend false advertising.
>>
>>158235027
because ggg are unethical shitters
it's obvious from their leftover point strategy and selling access to basic game functionality
>>
>>158235027
sounds stupid
no one is retarded enough to be misled by the word "free" and assume that GGG is giving 5-10 MTX to EVERY SINGLE PLAYER FOR FREE
>>158235053
do you have to spend anything to get the box itself? no
so it's free by definition.
RETARD
>>
>>158235246
>5-10 mtx
What. Those boxes give you 1 or 5.
1 item or 5 Skin transfers.
"One free Carnage box with next purchase" sounds just fine.
>>
>>158235246
>do you have to spend anything to get the box itself?
Yes, you do. You have to spend to buy literally anything else in the shop to get the box itself.
It's not free you fucking troglodyte.
>>
>>158235053
What if that person is from GGG or legitimately a retard?
>>
>>158235339
try to fit that on an ad

"Celebrate Halloween with one free Carnage box with your next purchase! Limited offer!"

you suck at marketing, faggot
>>
would anyone watch me stream? not just /poeg/ but like if I setup a stream will twitch randoms actually watch me?
>>
>>158235353
but you don't have to pay anything for the box itself

you could buy a weta pet and get the box for free

jesus christ, you're pretty fucking retarded, aren't you?
>>
guys stfu you should be thankful and be sucking GGG's dicks because the game is 100% free, stop complaining retards

they need the money to make the game better and give us patches for free too. this thread sucks it's all whining, how about getting a job you fucking neet losers.
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>>158235446
anon makes a good point
there's no way they could fit that in
>>
>>158235578
You're literally trying to say the box is free. If it were free, then we wouldn't have to pay anything to obtain it.

The box costs one purchase, then you get it.

I fail to see how this is a difficult concept for you, you dirty fucking swamp monster.
>>
>>158234364
Maybe a unique map like that would be fine imo.

Personally, I'd like to see larger maps with only 1 portal which have a boss and an uberlab chest at the end.
>>
>>158235553
take a look at the distribution of viewers for any game among streamers
on average, new twitch viewers just click on whoever has the most viewers for a given game
why? well all of these other people are watching them....
hence viewbotting
>>
>>158151974
I Dc'd again 1d 15h at 96.7 making vaalspark soon for maps.
>>
>>158235712
It's conditionally free. You do some action and you get it for free. You didn't pay anything for the box itself, it was thus free of charge. By definition, it comes as a FREE bonus. You fucking low IQ knukle dragging retard.
>>
>>158235841
do 40 hours of work for me, and i'll give you 500 dollars for free
>>
>>158235841
Go back to the Black Lagoon with your potato logic you damn tuber farming peasant.

>>158235896
This Anon clearly is capable of processing complex thoughtforms. I recommend you devour his flesh to gain his strengths like the savage creature you are.
>>
>>158235896
Most people get paid for their work and they can earn a free bonus on top too they didn't technically work for. You fucking retard stop responding to me your stupidity is off the charts
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>>158236024
If someone offered you a free $5 bill in exchange of a $1 bill, would you refuse the offer under the logic that you have to pay something and thus the $5 bill isn't free? That's how fucking retarded you sound right now. Was your head used a makeshift door stopper as a kid or are you naturally that mentally deficient?
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>>158235841
This is literally not true from an economic standpoint.
It's also hard to stamp down the price of the "free" box because it's with "any purchase."
Let's for this analysis say someone buys 1 box and gets 2 because freebie.
The cost of each box normally is 25 points or $2.50
The cost of this bundle is 25 points.
Each box is half of the total, thus each box has an approximate value of 12.5 points or a dollar and 25 cents.
But then, if they were to buy a single Skin Transfer instead, 6 points, the total cost of the items separate is 31 points.
25/31=~80%, or 4.8 points of the 6 point sale, which is 48 cents.

This is also moot because the items cost GGG nothing to provide and are pure profit.

TL;DR: The boxes aren't free and Freeposter is gonna have a freegasm.
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>>158236218
>free
it's not free, because there's a cost of entry
you are specifically denying homeless poorfags from participation, which also happens to be excluding the highest marginal utility option
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>>158232117
Yes, it was uber
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>>158235804
you can redact your posts you fucking illiterate baboon

this isn't fucking twitter where you need to be wary about your word count
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>>158216983
I quit 2 days after the new league. For the last 2 years I put in only 30 hours and I'm still here.
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>>158236218
Wow, you're still trying to downgrade people's thought processes down to your level. I suppose this perseverance is how you progressed as a single cell organism to the foul homunculus you are now.
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>>158236218
You are circling the issue.
An item is free when you must give up nothing to get it.
Exchanging $1 for $5 is literally gaining $4 for free because you are giving up a currency (something that has no intrinsic value to you, it only has spending value) for more currency (which has no intrinsic value to you, it only has more spending value.)
You're welcome to continue being retarded, but you are still retarded.

Here's a better example:
>A quarter machine dispenses Runts candy
>You check the machine if anyone left some in last time and find that they did
>You lost nothing in spending value and gained 25 cents in intrinsic value
>Instead, you check it and find nothing, then use a quarter for some Runts
>You lose 25 cents in spending value and gain 25 cents in intrinsic value, a net change of 0
>Now instead, the quarter machine dispenses real $1 bills
>You put a quarter in and get a dollar out
>You gain nothing in intrinsic value because money has no use to a person beyond obtaining other goods
>But you gain 75 cents in spending value
You gave up nothing because you didn't lose spending or intrinsic value.
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>This is also moot because the items cost GGG nothing to provide and are pure profit.
Here's an idea, retard: try not to use fancy terms such as "economic standpoint." when you understand nothing about the economic impact of giving mtx for free. Another idea: what happens if you purchase expensive mtx through paypal then initiate a chargeback? Who pays the fees then? Sleep on that, fucking imbecile.

>>158236469
Not an argument, stop replying to me if you're unwilling to debate me on logical grounds you glue sniffing degenerate.
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>Anti-(You)poster
Oh, so I was arguing with nobody the entire time.
A pity, guess I should go see a doctor about being Schizophrenic now.
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How hard do you think freeposter is right now?
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>>158236815
>i have a personality disorder and nothing of value to contribute
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>>158236815
>initiate a chargeback
You are returning the item you bought through a method that is against the GGG terms of service, which opens up another whole can of worms.
But anyway, you are causing undue stress to all parties involved which causes Paypal to charge GGG a fee beyond normal business transactions. That point has nothing to do with providing FREE Microtransactions, period.
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>tfw i will have to permanently stop playing poe soon because of carpal tunnel
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Are prophecies bugged rn or something ?
NOTHING triggered in well over 10 maps
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>>158236956
Let me draw up an Infographic. Be back in a bit.
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>>158237130
just play until you're crippled and then kill yourself
you know you can't go back to passive entertainment
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>>158237143
I wouldn't worry about it, goyim.
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>>158236607
How is giving a $1 bill to get a $5 bill in return (essentially gaining $4 for free) fundamentally different from giving a $1 mtx "ticket" in return for a $5 mtx "ticket"? Didn't you gain something free in both cases? Lol, you're trying so hard to worm your way out of this, you pathetic loser.
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>>158237143
do all of your prophecies have specific trigger requirements
look them up by name
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>>158230792
Favorite JRPG?
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>>158237086
>That point has nothing to do with providing FREE Microtransactions, period.
It has everything to do with GGG's decision to be careful about what kind of mtx they give away and at what frequency because even though it costs them "nothing" to create, it still costs them to keep track of them one way or the other. Try to follow the argument flow, champ.
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>>158237228
This makes me laugh every time
"yeah dude we change dropates all the time however we feel like, what are you going to do about it?"
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Is this a pretty solid Earthquake build?

www.poeurl.com/O6J
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>>158210159
Staves have excellent crit nodes combined with the melee crit cluster.
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>>158237350
Aside from the bottom two, non of those have specific trigger requirement BUT being activated in a map.
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All done.
Freeposter should be approximately just below "I'm ready to die!" levels of free.
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>>158237439
Drop rates tweaks mean absolutely NOTHING on an individual basis. Do you notice if you there's a 0.0005% chance to get shot when you walk outside your house in October instead of 0.0004% in September?
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>>158237597
>Plague of Frogs
That doesn't require a map, go to Ebony Barracks right now and see if it triggers.
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>>158237661
OK Chris
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>>158237130
couldn't you still play non action intensive builds like... RF?
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>>158237752
fuck off reddit-kun
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>>158237661
I walk at the speed of light, so I am everywhere at the same time. I don't feel stastistcal changes. I am statistics.
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>>158237602
Too much free, I'm scared
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>>158237661
>Implying the spawnrate of diviners was reduced by -0.00001%
I haven't seen one for almost two weeks, at the beginning i got ~1 per day.
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>>158237661
>the likelihood of an outcome means absolutely nothing on an individual basis
Hi, anon. For $1 we'll play a game*. We'll flip a coin and if it's heads, then you get $4 and if it's tails, then you get nothing

Now let me just replace this coin with a d20, and tweak the outcomes to $1 if it rolls a 1 and $0 if it rolls anything else

* i reserve the right to change outcomes and likelihood of outcomes at my discretion

Reminder that this does not matter on an individual basis.
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>>158238092
>my own empirical evidence governs the laws of the universe
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>you die to Argus in uber labs
>he has like 3% health left

fuck me for not having culling though, thought he'd die before me
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>>158238241
>Thought he'd die before me
You know, there's an entire Labyrinth at your disposal, lead him around and refill Flasks.
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>>158238195
except poe isn't a single player game and any balance changes is made taking into account the fact that dozens of thousands of players play in the same realm as you

lol fucking retard

you really think ggg makes sweeping drop rate tweaks by an order of magnitude randomly?
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>>158238232
>Sample size of a few hundred maps
Sorry i can't run a million maps for a bigger sample size
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>>158238537
exactly, hence you should keep your mouth shut unless you're willing to go through the effort of gathering tens of thousands of not millions of data points (some players have, through combined community effort)
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>>158238635
And the shocker:
>Those people who have gathered the data have found that the spawn rate is notably lower!
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>>158238687
wrong, there's been no such data
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>>158238425
1. The above is a two-player game. I am the other player.
2. Your objections are irrelevant to the point.
3. Your premise is fundamentally wrong, not only in terms of the expected value of an outcome being important to deciding whether to play a game, but also wrong by the fact that changes in the likelihood of outcomes in PoE impacts not only which outcomes you will get, but also changes the utility value those outcomes.
Even if you don't obtain a Shav's, for example, having four times as many them in the economy will decrease their trade value, which in turn increases the value of your other outcomes with respect to a Shav's drop.
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>>158238939
didn't read your butthurt novel btw
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>>158239026
Looks like I win. HAND
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>enter Uber lab again
>disconnect when you enter the first area

loving this meme
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The only way to win is to not play.
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>my connection is unstable
>i know, i'll just blame the game instead

loving this meme
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>>158239260
You are the same retard that is defending the random drop chances, am i right ?
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>>158239260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACXuhKz8Gl4
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never quote me again
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>>158239204
If the only way to win is to not play, then why are you posting on the Internet all day about killing yourself, and I'm rich.
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@158239462

Ok, senpai.
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>>158239462
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>and I'm rich
Uhuh. Liars don't get replies.
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>playing another game online
>no disconnect

Not gggs fault it must be blizzards fault cuz diablo doesnt disconnect and poe does
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What are the downsides of going hybrid + GR? I think I could break 10k ehp (like 6k hp 4k es) pretty easily on a budget, so what are the cons?
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>>158239692
Good luck with your Tiger Blood doesn't-even-try man.
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just bought 66 armorer's scraps for 1c on ehc

don't understand those rates, who would want to pick up 1/66th of a chaos orb?
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Since I've stopped playing a few weeks back, anyone want some of my HC essence currency? It's not much mind you because I'm only like lvl 35 but hey, its free.
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>>158239885
You probably spend at least two points getting it. You might die to chaos damage.
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>>158239691
>No one meme replied asking for source
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>>158240153
no, handouts are for streamer bitches
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>>158240359
black bullet sucks
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>>158239691
LOL fuck that con kid pretending to be blind fuck outta here you deceiving little princess bitch
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How important are support gems for a generic skele/zombie/spectre/srs minion build? I've got enough skills to completely fill my hotbar and I haven't even gotten my auras yet.
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>>158240545
Go back.
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I have been here since Ambush and I have never seen the general get more than 150 posters.
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so what
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Great thread guys!
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>>158240912
fuck off
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>>158240821
this game is not that popular, but its players are exceptionally autistic
probably explains the first part :^)
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>>158241010
you can fuck off too
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>>158240759
Pretty important. SRS can make use of multistrike and splash for AoE or more single target.
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>>158240990
Suck my gf's dick retard
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>>158241115
It's far too late for that.
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What the fuck do I play until the end of the league?
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>>158241639
Wormblaster.
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>>158241639
poison rain of arrows mines
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>>158241639
Facebreeakers.
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>>158241639
Pathfinder
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Gonna be a fun scriptorium
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>>158241661
>>158241737
I mean another game lol, this league is a snoozefest you fucking weebs
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>>158241872
>Not posting the mods
You are weak.
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>>158241639
HC minecraft
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>>158241894
clearly the bitcher is oriented for a more mature audience
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>>158241938
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>>158234261
leer cast

your minions generally don't die

and if they do, it's because some boss oneshots them or you run into three map-turbocharged packs.
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>>158242130
>all those fucking mods
>63% rarity
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Is it really "free"?
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>>158241639
Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
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>>158242130
>no packsize
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No returns is a shit meme
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>>158241894
http://store.steampowered.com/app/285440
http://store.steampowered.com/app/435970
http://store.steampowered.com/app/441280
http://store.steampowered.com/app/377860
http://store.steampowered.com/app/464450
http://store.steampowered.com/app/314180
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/85452
http://store.steampowered.com/app/223220
http://store.steampowered.com/app/449830
http://store.steampowered.com/app/324800
http://store.steampowered.com/app/540610
don't come back
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>>158234631
nah, d3 has side paths that don't go anywhere and rewards you for killing the area boss
>>
So can I increase burning damage through Damage over Time passives? Or do they only affect chaos DoTs and Poison?
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>>158243628
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Burning
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>>158243628
Burning can be increased by , Burning, DoT, Fire, Elemental, Generic Damage, and if applied by a Minion, Trap, Mine, Area, Proj, then those as well.

Grabbing Burning/DoT nodes suck because all the other types of damage listed will double dip, increasing both the initial hit and increasing the burn damage.
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we've had freeposting for the last forever
how is it that what constitutes free is still in need of discussion
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what do you think /lolg/
do i level a dd zerke or incinerate zerker
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>>158243437
this post annoys the HECK out of me
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how do i make Witch my gf
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>>158244451
Burn down your local orphanage.
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I am a new player.

I've perused the build lists and looked around but it's hard to tell what the actual *good* builds are. What are the top 5 best builds on 2.4?

Also how do I unlock Scion
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>>158244585
Blade Vortex
Warchief Totems
Wormblaster
Scold'sBreath
Kinetic Blast Mines

Complete Act 3 Normal.
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>>158244585
dishonored 2 comes out nov 11
play that instead
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>>158244585
BV Pathfinder >>>>>>> literally any variation of flameblast >>>> warchief = essence drain > SRS > Earthquake > etc
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>>158244585
only smart people play this game
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>>158244892
you just gave me an idea for a slayer flameblaster
thanks anon
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>>158244585
Don't bother yourself with the try hard builds if you've just started playing.

Just play the game normally until you've completed Merc then you can start min maxing.
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Greetings Exiles, today we'll be talking about the lore behind the divergent Ascendancies of the Witch.
>Necromancer
>Occultist
>Elementalist
You'll notice the most striking resemblance the art in upper of pic related to the Necromancer. This is because the Necromancer is what the Witch is destined to be in the real timeline of Path of Exile. An undying lady of the dead who only desires to see her army grow.

Now then, for the nitty gritty.

>Elementalist
This is a Witch who was given the gift of considerable elemental magic early in her life after coming to Wraeclast and embracing it, letting it consume her in exchange for the endless bounty. An Elementalist is not long for this world, the flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

>Necromancer
This is a Witch who embraced their talents for the living damned soon after coming to Wraeclast, but instead of being consumed like that of the Elementalist, they control it and wield it like a weapon, they are the master, the dead their servant.

>Occultist
The saddest of the 3 Ascendancy paths, the Occultist is a Witch who took the safe route and did not so much embrace their magic as only wield that they knew they could control. As such, she honed her craft well, being able to embrace both defensive and offensive power, but in the process of long, grueling years spent preparing, she lost much of her will, fearful and protective of her secrets and become a bitter husk of a woman, only finding solace in seeing the challenges before her fall. It shall be many moons before the Occultist dies, but it shall be silent in the dead of night when at last, her will is broken.
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>stuck on tier 7/8 maps
kill me
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>>158241894
Recettear
Catherine
Muramasa
Granblue
Project Diva
Senran Kagura

There, have fun.
>>
>Look up Grand Spectrum Viridian Jewels on all the leagues
>They're still retardedly expensive
>They only have one realistic use, which is in a Scion 20+ jewel build
>Any other build would give up 50+% increased life for a mediocre damage gain
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>>158246013
>7 weeks in and only has tier 8 maps
suicide would be a respectable choice
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>>158246531
you only need like 9
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>>158245747
I want to sniff occultist's dirty greasy disheveled hair
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>>158246602
I started playing again like 2 weeks ago
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>>158246948
I wanna fuck her toes
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>>158247101
>again
Why did you come back? You could've been freed.
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>>158246948
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>>158247658
I hadn't played since release and I was bored
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>>158247720
That's clearly a Necromancer.
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what do you think will do more damage on a couple ex budget, phys bow ranger or doomfletch prism inquisitor?
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>>158247852
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>>158248515
Much better.
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>>158248515
>you will never be anally dominated by a cute girl slash murderhobo clad in eighty pounds of powerful magical garbage
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>>158241168
>using multistrike on srs
poeg please
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>>158249409
Multistrike works on it. Makes SRS really rapey for bosses.
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>>158249409
You are shit

Shiiiiiiiiit
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>Shitstorm is over
>Still 51 posts to new thread
Fug.
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>>158248457
anybody have any idea?
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>>158248457
Phys Bow.
On a Slayer.
You'll also be far more flexibile than Doomfletch's Prism Inquisitor.
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>>158249747
for culling / 20% more / increase on 2h?

and what do you mean by flexible? less worry about reflect or what? i appreciate the input
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>/poeg/
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>>158250164
i want to like you but my instincts are telling me you're a shitcrow and i can't be friends with a shitcrow
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>>158250443
I wasn't a babbycore player since 2013
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>>158249979
Sorry for the delay.
20% Culling, endless Leech are two great mechanics for Bow characters.
And you'll have almost permanent uptime on your Onslaught bonus.
It's either that or Pathfinder Flask shit.
And yeah, flexibility applies to what you can run.
Doomfletch can't run Ele Reflect, Phys Bow can.
Phys Bow can also run Phys Reflect with 50% Reduced Phys Reflect and Phys to Lightning.
>>
>tfw a poe streamer reads your comment
>>
are we ever going to get guns?
>>
ayylien expansion when
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>>158251429
>>158251454
Go back there.
>>
>Finally get to merc. Act 4
>Join a Dried Lake farm group
>Three Rangers in one Instance 2 Necromancers in another
>Host is a Necro
>Join Necro Instance on newup
>They're both summoners with Sentinels
>Crash in seconds
Well then, solo for me.
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>>158251429
spears when
throwing weapons when
throwing potions that draw from your flasks when
>>
Why aren't you watching our girl?
twitch tv/melanielolz
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>>158249979
>>158251314
Also, Lioneye's Fall on the duelist start area is GOAT.
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>>158251641
yikes

no thanks
>>
hey poeg
new d3g season started but obvi the game/thread is dead
can i move in with you folks
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>>158251947
Dunno senpai, maybe explain why you still play D3 in a way that makes sense and we can consider it.
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>>158251641
>Vaal Ground Slam on a 5L
What the fuck?
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>>158250935
consider me you'rer'ere friend then
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>>158252015
is vaal ground slam any good at all? looking over the skill it seems completely useless
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>>158252012
i dont really play it fully per say
new season
get to 70
unlock the gift items
wonder why this game is still around/exists
quit/uninstall and play something else
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>>158252208
It has a high aoe, high base damage, and has some synergy with Hegemony's Era. There was a build a while back that just chained VGS and had pretty good clear speed.
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is today's lab good or shit?
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>>158251314
slayer
10% attk speed
42% inc 2h
20% cull
onslaught
reduced reflect
20% more
leech and bleed vs leech


deadeye
20% attk speed
70% inc proj
chain
20% acc
200 acc
+1 extra proj
up to 30% more

the extra proj and not having "less" on chain makes deadeye a great option too, hard to decide
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>>158252408
and then it gutted by ggg
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>>158251947
Sure, but first you must tell me your favorite anime.
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>>158252518
bows are boring, deadeye is a meme, akward with drillneck or even that unique harbinger

And you'll struggle with just above average life.

also slayer is satisfying to play in general
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>>158252651
classic Spongebob Squarepants
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>>158252518
inquis

40% inc elemental
30% multi
24% attk speed
100% crit chance (no ailments on target)
45% multi (ailments on target)
10% pen non crit
ignore res on crit
50% inc attack damage if spell cast
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>>158252765
>And you'll struggle with just above average life.
There's literally zero difference between a Slayer or Deadeye bow tree. You can comfortably get 200% life and above as either class. If anything, ranger is MAYBE better by a point or two.

>>158252518
20% cull on its own is way better than anything in Deadeye, it's retarded.
>>
is KB the only viable wand skill these days
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>>158253241
but +1 projectile is the same thing as 25% more damage on barrage

not to mention it adds aoe to your TS / LA

and considering you can get onslaught from other sources (silver flask), what does slayer have on deadeye other than leech?
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>>158252812
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>>158253532
cull, immune to stun and bleed, doesn't have to re roll phys reflect and a great life leech rate. they already mentioned these things
>>
is the inquisitor's sanctify thing any good for melee characters?
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>>158253708
20% cull is the same as 20% more damage, which i just stated is worse than +1 proj because the only time it comes into effect is single target dps, and in that situation (barrage) you get +25% more

considering bleed immunity is something you'll easily get on a flask, that's null

it's better leech and lower reflect damage vs chain and extra damage, and who wouldn't pick up VP when you're right there anyway? VP fixes reflect too
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>>158254009
>20% cull is the same as 20% more damage
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>>158254009
>20% cull is 20% more damage
Niggayouwhat.
That's outright wrong.
Let's say you deal 1% of the boss' health per second without either 20% culling or 20% more damage. That's 100 seconds to kill it. (100%/1% per second)
With the 20% more damage bonus, you are dealing 1.2% of his life per second, yielding 83 and a third seconds of boss killing. (100/1.2)
Instead, if you had the 20% cull, you only spend 80 seconds killing the boss. (80/1)
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>>158254051
explain how it isn't
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>>158254242
but that isn't the correct equation for this situation, it's 25% more vs 20% culling

context matters greatly in this situation, and in poe you aren't going to spend that long killing anything, making the culling (at exact same %s) at most, a couple tenths of a second faster.

there's also the extra aoe to factor in when considering this extra projectile
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>>158254242
And for reference, that means 20% culling with no other modifications is 17.65% better than a 20% more damage bonus with no other modifications.
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>>158253516
no, but it gets aoe without a link and that aoe can overlap so you're probably going to use it
barrage is a perfectly cromulent single target skill
vaal power siphon is good for meme clearing the screen
power siphon would probably be better for a hypothetical burn prolif build since it has higher damage scaling
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>>158254242
So your point is that slayer is a couple seconds, at the absolute most, faster to kill a single target situation when you ignore everything else of deadeye? Deadeye clears quicker with more AoE and +1 chain, faster attack speed, more accuracy, and higher potential more modifiers.
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>>158254009
20% cull is NOT the same as 20% damage, especially in parties
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>>158254242
You save more time in clear speed with deadeye than slayer could ever give you with 20% cull.
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>>158254710
Incorrect.
It's a few seconds if you deal insane fucking damage to the boss, which isn't true.
And like >>158254423
pointed out, it's more or less identical at a 25% rate accounting for nothing else.
I prefer Slayer at the end of the day, others will prefer Deadeye.
Both are viable.
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Why are you dumbfucks arguing over which shitty bow build is better when you could be playing vaalspark with a brightbeak?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11493669
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>>158254710
chain is garbage, you're better off running drillneck anyway
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>>158254934
Actually, by your own point, it's a few seconds faster if you are dealing insanely low damage to a boss (100 seconds for a boss kill is not good damage).

But I wholly agree that preference matters a good bit. Having the option of not running vaal pact is a very nice change of pace as far as build making goes, and not having to roll a bleed flask spares up an option as far as unique flasks / immunity goes.
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>>158255151
>no bv pathfinder option
shit poll did not vote
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>>158255191
>not running silvertongue and having both
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>>158255282
Would have made a poal.me with write-ins, but site's down for some reason.
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>>158255101
spell daggers are kinda nice though, you'd need some crazy good gear to drop one for a brightbeak
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>>158255314
>silvertongue
Doesn't exist.
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so when are they nerfing crit

it's either resolute techniques OR you go crit right now

and if you don't go crit you're retarded
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>>158255443
might as well not exist with that shit attack speed

shame too cause ">free" bleed is a cool concept
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>>158255530
Elemental Overload is quite powerful and cheap, Anon.
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>>158255314
>having both

if an arrow pierces it can't chain anymore
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Who was that streamer that could 6L stuff in less than 10 fuses? Does he play on EHC?
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>>158243868
>Burning can be increased by , Burning, DoT, Fire, Elemental, Generic Damage, and if applied by a Minion, Trap, Mine, Area, Proj, then those as well.

Poison on the other hand.....

>tfw when GGG can't remain internally consistent even after explicitly stating that secondary damage types ala burning/poison would be modified by all modifiers to base damage after the damage refactor

I mean, how are they getting away with this blatant and lazy "fixing"?
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>>158255701
>anymore
Are you retarded?
The rules is:
>If it pierces, it can't chain
>If it chains, it can't fork
It's not
>If it pierced, it can't chain
>If it chained, it can't fork
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>>158255701
>what is tornado shot
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>>158255438
The amount of IAS you gain going brightbeak against even a 1.9 ambusher basically means it beats the dagger nearly every time unless you get some fucking nuts dagger for example on EHC there are no daggers that will beat the value the brightbeak gives in the weapon slot.
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>>158255871
what I was saying regards how brightbeak is attack speed only, a spell dagger gives you spell crit, crit multi, and added damage to spells. so brightbeak is awesome if you have absolutely insane gear, but a spell dagger will usually give more benefit.

for some dried lake vaal spark though, fuck yeah brightbeak all the way
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>>158255530
you mean when are they removing all instances of "hits cannot be evaded"
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>>158256241
You know, they could just have Spells be affected by Accuracy.
And absolve Vagan's special mod for something befitting an arena fighter.
On some low-grade Uniques and the Keystone is fine.
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>>158255740
general_tsosChicken
plays on shitcore, what a faggot
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>>158256216
I honestly think it offers more value for the slot even for mapping with vaalspark but I need to try it out in high maps still. Atlas lets you just pick your layouts though so only running dunes, strand, geyser, shore, promenade, quay from t10-15 should perform great.
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>>158256425
no, spells don't need accuracy
spells need to have their scaling reduced
which also includes deleting trigger gems
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>>158256618
>Deleting Trigger Gems
I whole-heartedly agree.
The only downside is, fun builds that use CWDT and such for more than just "Oh shit, Phys spike!" would be dead too.
Example, a variant of the Build of the Week that just passed by.
>Runs FOUR Cast When Damage Taken Gems to cast 10 different skills
>With Self-Cast Blade Vortex
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