/shmupg/ - shooting game general

first for Cee is a mentally ill chav

Second for shmupping drama

>>158121219
third for truth

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Fourth for intergalactic killer fish

Fifth for prepping Caves BJC

sixth for DOJ best game

>>158122754
Impossible, Muchi Muchi Pork is best game.

>>158122901
Steam release then?

>>158121092
D-don't cry, Cirno! It makes me cry too... ;_;

>>158123308
Are you autistic?

>>158122754
that's not futanari

12th for gus is too much of a coward to do futari on default settings. japs did mushi ultra and doj on default but that level of pressure must be too much for """""""""""guerilla warfare"""""""""""""""""""""" lel

>>158124541
Mushi Ultra failed
DOJ almost failed in 2-2

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>>158123308

>>158124814
ya only someone with big japanese balls and cocks would attempt to do that shit live. they're real men who went to war.

>>158124541
in the west only Prom can 2-all DOJ live on stage

there's no point showing a crappy non scoring 2-2 run

>>158124814
>Mushi Ultra failed
when did gus play?

So did the japs use their research from Unit 731 to make themselves better at shmups? Only explanation I can think of

>>158125369
japs did DOJWL prom only plays DOJBL big difference homie

>>158125484
their genetically superior

>>158125484
chinks are better than westies too, must be something in the asian genes

>>158125935
Might be all the japanese rape babies

>>158125679
i know buddy i know
but still that's really impressive, and he did it several times (stunfest and few other smaller meets)

i would shit my pants playing in public lol

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>>158123308

>>158125679
also I told him to play WL, I'm pretty sure he could wreck that game too

>>158124401
>having empathy = autistic
That's a new one.

>>158121219
Aww the little nerdling guy is intimidated by confidence, don't worry buttercup treat me good and i might let you prep the bull.

Why is there always so much hate in /shmupg/ and 4chan in general? Why can't you all just talk like normal human beans, without the insults n stuff? Is it because of the anonymity? I just don't get what drives people to post so much bullshit and negativity.

Maybe this imageboard concept isn't for me~

And yes, hurr durr muh feelings.

>>158131364
The globalist kikes are sending in paid shills to break up the shmup community.

>>158131364
It's something that's come up since around 2010, a lot of people from other sites find 4chan and think the point of it is to be as edgy and rude as possible.

>>158131364
Anonymity causes people to feel like they're not responsible for the messages they post. There are also many shmup players who are simply socially inept and too dumb to realize that anything they post will be either cringe-worthy to read or just plain embarrassing.

>>158131364
>Why is there always so much hate in /shmupg/
Because being honest is more important than your silly feelings. I am also a hater and spwaned from a country that gave birth to bantz, Americans will never understand and always be to sensitive to really appreciate it.

>>158124401
Nah that's just chum, he's a pedo that considers touhou characters his actual friends.

>>158131364
That's not just on 4chan the case, it's everywhere on the net where people can't get banned for "hate speech".
And where they can get banned, they are still rude, but just in a way, where it's still socially acceptable to be rude.

>>158133045
Isn't this describing 90% of western shmuppers?

>>158131364
the shmup community and 4chan are both groups with a lot of mental illness

>>158133342
>it's everywhere on the net where people can't get banned for "hate speech".
you can get banned for this on 4chan too it is against the rules on every board except /b/

>>158133852
Bla, noone gives a shit about this rule.

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Streaming some DU2.

twitch tv/infirex

>>158133852
Let's be real mods never enforce that rule, plus people would complain if they did anyway.

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>>158107596
I regularly take months-long breaks between serious practicing. For Deathsmiles, I broke 200m for the first time in 2012. This remained my PB until late 2014, where I got the PB that remained until this year with the Steam release.

Every several months I'll pick it up and play it again to keep my skills from dulling too much, but it's rare that I actually manage to buckle down and improve the PB. It does happen, though. It'd be great if I were a more motivated person.

>>158133852
Isn't it also in the rules that you can't post bait or try to incite flame wars or something? I don't think mods actually enforce any of the rules unless you post naughty images or ponies.

Ironically I'd expect that /b/ has tighter moderation than any other board. I've never been there personally, but I've heard of numerous illegal things that ended up happening there.

>>158133930
>>158134426
>>158134972
depends on the board and the mods, you can get banned for it

>>158133342
So basically you're another one of those sjw nutcases that wants to police everybodys thoughts and speech to accomodate your feelings? We already tried the soviet union once thankyou very much.

>>158133852
>every board except /b/
That's because hate speech is only defined when some professionally offended retard decides it is, head over to /pol/, it's 24/7 quality bantz or what you would call "hate speech", no one gets hurt and its a good time, also some quality political discourse there to.

fuck garegga. i never clear this

>>158137371
Don't worry anon, neither will I.

is gus playing shirtless?

>>158137371
Remove rank systems

>>158137371
Look at the positive, it took kevinddr 5 years to clear it once.

>>158137580
>is gus playing shirtless?
lmao one can hope.

Who's waiting for softdrinks ketsui run?

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When are we getting Imperishable Night 2?

>>158139219
I don't think the mans liver can handle another one.

>>158139216
I'm just waiting for Darius desu

>>158139216
i want to see his mushi maniac run more

>>158139571
Never even realised he played that game although it's softdrink so i guess he started a week ago.

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Even though I don't like overbearing negativity and certain bantz and all that, I still find myself jaded enough to have to watch myself around places that aren't 4chan. Like, I go on Facebook and see people I actually knew back in high school seriously posting shit that I would immediately dismiss as bait on 4chan. My first reaction would be to reply with "Wow, you cannot be serious right now", but they actually are. It's a weird contrast to 4chan.

Like, like just today, I see posted seriously and unironically, "All white people are racist", posted by a white person. And I just take a step back and think "Wow, is this what normal people are doing nowadays? If this was 4chan, you'd probably be laughed right on outta here", but on the contrary it was garnering likes and shares and comments of support. Like shit, I've heard of SJWs but it's really something else to see people you know in real life doing these things.

>>158137580
Is it streaming on Twitch?

>>158139219
When they make another game about the moon- oh wait, LoLK!

>>158139919
>"All white people are racist", posted by a white person.
Welcome to leftist propaganda

>>158139919
>Like shit, I've heard of SJWs but it's really something else to see people you know in real life doing these things.

let yuri explain to you what it's all about and yes it's a fucking cancer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA

>>158139919
>Is it streaming on Twitch?
Yes, softdrink is playing ketsui in 2 hrs and gus in 11hrs. twitch tv/superplay

>>158139919
>LoLK
Why would anybody ever play shitty version of Eschatos?

>>158142138
I like it.

>>158139529
When's that?

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>>158142403
On Sunday at 5:20 AM

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>>158142494
>mfw it's 0.20 PM

>>158137220
>So basically you're another one of those sjw nutcases that wants to police everybodys thoughts and speech to accomodate your feelings?
Where in the fuck did I ever say I have a problem with this? I just stated how things are. Why are you fucking britcunts always so fucking retarded?

>>158134124
Stream's over. I've derusted myself today and I'm pretty close to the 1cc if I don't count the TLB. With him included, it may take a while. Regardless, I'm getting there!

Thanks for watching.

>>158139919
>"All white people are racist"
But they are. It's just that other people are also racist. Everyone is racist.

>>158143797
desu i think i replied to the wrong person, ahwell fuck it.

Anyone watching pj playing battletoads arcade at that event? Really good run so far, always fancied gittin gud at beat em ups but always failed.

>>158145059
It's cool, but pretty boring compared to shmups.

>>158145276
Actually I really like all the strat and routing that goes into controlling the enemies and their positions, it's pretty interesting desu.

>>158145276
I disagree but fair enough, at least the western beatemup platers there are actually good and well versed in the games.

>>158145527
I agree with this you, they can be legit fascinating.

>>158145527
>>158145617
I'm not saying he is playing bad, but the skill ceiling for shmups is at least 10 times higher. It's no wonder that all the shmup players failed, because shmups are on a different level than platformers.

>>158145807
beatemups are not platformers and it's game dependant, 1ccs in beatemups are actually harder than a lot of shmups but yes scoring pushes the ceiling up but can't you just appreciate something else that's also impressive kraut? for once?

>>158145059
>always fancied gittin gud at beat em ups but always failed.

Same, but I never bothered to even find out the different punches and grabs. Excluding nes double dragon 2, which I've actually finished.

>>158146275
Beatemups, platformers, whatever, it's all the same stuff which I already got good at as a kid. These games are good and fun, but you can't compare them to shmups. There is a reason why Arino from Game Center CX always failed at shmups, because they are much harder than other arcade games. The only arcade games which come close are rhythm games and fighting games.

>>158146656
>because they are much harder than other arcade games.
Or maybe it's because he played them less than the other genres? And still who fucking cares? Does it give you a leet boner to tell everyone that you play super duper hardcore games?

>>158146952
No, it's not because he played them less, it's because shmups have much more complex patterns to memorize. Patterns in beatemups, jumpnruns, or whatever are simple as fuck compared to shmups.

And no, I don't get a boner, I just tell you that you are talking nonsense.

>>158147315
Why don't you just speedrun, anon?

>>158147679
Because I find shmups way more interesting? They are basically the only genre I still truely respect as an adult.

>>158147315
How many beatemups have you 1cced honestly? Because you sound completely clueless.

>>158146656
It isn't the same stuff though beat em ups are significantly harder than platformers and are IMO the most dynamic arcade genre outside of multiplayer games. Far less pattern memorization going on than most shmups for sure

>>158147938
I played them as a kid. Battletoads, Streets of Rage 1-3, Turtles, Shinobi 1-3, Rocket Knight Adventures, Contra, etc. I didn't always clear them, but always came pretty far.

>>158148218
Kraut's a know it all cunt who just decides his assumptions and limited experience qualify as knowledge.

>>158148416
Not single one of those is an arcade game and you didn't even clear a console game and STILL hold such strong opinions? For fuck sake man. Go pick any arcade beatemup and go for the 1cc, you'll see fast how hard they are.

>>158148218
They may be harder than jump n runs, but they are still about memorization. Not that this would make them easy, but the patterns you have to memorize there are pretty simple.

>>158148416
>Shinobi 1-3, Rocket Knight Adventures, Contra
I don't wanna be rude anon, but these aren't beat em ups. Also
>Contra
Straight to my heart, run n guns are the thing ;_;

Question for the stick users here.

Did you switch your stick from a square gate to an octagonal gate? And which stick do you use if you did?

>>158128809
mentally ill is up for debate however you are a chav :)

>>158148596
Not him but Contra is an arcade game and it's not a beat 'em up.

>>158148596
>Not single one of those is an arcade game
Thunder Force IV also wasn't an arcade game, yet it was ten times harder than those games.

I don't have to play arcade beat em ups, because I have eyes in my head. In beat em ups, you have much less maneuverability than in shmups, that's why the patterns in shmups can get way more complex.

>>158148850
Well that must suck for you? A chav has better scores than you, broken 5 mill in guwange yet? :( don't worry mate for your sort there's always touhou!

>>158148906
Aye but we was talking about beatemups but i think the message has got confused as arcade battletoads was on stream which is a beat em up and not so much a platformer like the nes game.

>>158149263
>broken 5 mill in guwange yet?
no, but neither have you :^)

>>158148715
Memorization is involved but the enemies can be real motherfuckers that just refuse to play along with whatever plan you had in mind and do what they want instead, forcing you to think on your feet all the time. It's pretty unique. Try playing Final Fight on very hard some time, may gain a new appreciation for the genre

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>>158140834
Hmm, that does sound like some shady shit.

>Twitch
Well then Gus won't be shirtless~

>>158142138
I didn't like LoLK myself and hearing Eschatos compared to it suddenly makes me wary of trying that too.

>>158144181
I don't think it works like that. It kinda reminds me of that All Lives Matter thing, where it's blatantly true but people get mad at you if you say it. Hold on I think I have a video for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWWfEEyfm_o

An amusing contrast, if nothing else.

>>158140834
>let yuri explain to you what it's all about and yes it's a fucking cancer
Holy fuck. Is this real? Are we at ideological war? Have I been thoroughly brainwashed?

>>158149409
The fights still come down to the same patterns. Boring jump kicks in the right moment, stun locking through repeatedly spam light punches, cheesing the enemy by going at it from diagonal, etc

>>158149503
>Have I been thoroughly brainwashed?
Nah. Look where do you are. You're good.

>>158149008
It's not just a question of patterns though, in shmups the relationship between hitbox and bullet is a much more static affair and you don't have to deal with the level of potential random what with multiple a.i's running about the screen. Your eyes can see and with that they create a perception based on assumptions which are never close to knowledge from experience.

>>158149380
What kind of troll is this? I just posted a Gensuke 43 mill clear on farm for arcade and 70 mill for blue version 3 weeks ago.

>>158149503
The leftist ideological has very much been pushed into the american education system, 3rd wave feminism, social justice etcetc are all very much products of it. These people will reject the capitalist system in favor of communism/socialism (which has never worked) because they fall for the propaganda which suggests a utopia of equality in all regards, the reality is and the ideologies intention is to replace the indvidual mind with the collectivist mind and centralise power ala every communist regime ever.

>>158149482
>people get mad at you if you say it
Only the american blacks get mad, because they think they can have a special card when it comes to racism and if anyone disagrees with it, then they see them as their enemy, while in reality africa is the most racist continent on earth.

>>158150018
we've been over this anything done on mame is worthless. your guwange score is 0

>>158150214
Well the west particularly america has actively encouraged a culture of victim hood thus you have various groups in a race to be the biggest victim because they have learnt that it is the fastest way to free shit, this is precisely what is driving feminists, BLM etcetc today. That's why none of there cases or desires make any sense and every time you ask what they want it ALWAYS manifests in lists of demands for more power,money and material goods.

>>158150018
>It's not just a question of patterns though, in shmups the relationship between hitbox and bullet is a much more static affair and you don't have to deal with the level of potential random what with multiple a.i's running about the screen. Your eyes can see and with that they create a perception based on assumptions which are never close to knowledge from experience.

So you are trying to tell me just because a game had more RnG it would be harder? Go and play your boring randomly generated euroshmups then if you think so.

You use the same kind of logic all these retards use saying shmups would be easy because they are "just" about memorization. RnG says little about the difficulty.

>>158149775
You're not dealing with one enemy for an entire game. Crowd control is the real draw of beat em ups and it's a whole lot more complex than just those simple techniques

>>158150621
So your 2 avenues of bantz repeated for weeks are chav and mame doesn't count? I think you have an imagination barrier my witless chum.

>>158150714
>RnG says little about the difficulty.
Don't you whine about CC for precisely this reason? And of course it says alot about difficulty especially when it can fuck you over. Fire up mame now and play a beatemup otherwise shut your pie hole and stop looking more ignorant than you do already.

Why the fuck would people waste time playing shitty 2d beat them ups when they could play Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden and such instead? They have 100x the depth.

>>158150991
you're the one that asked why your score doesn't count.

>>158150814
These techniques help with the crowd controll though, but anyway... If you gyus find these games so challenging, then fine, whatever...

>>158150991
>Don't you whine about CC for precisely this reason?
No, that wasn't me. And CCWI doesn't even have much Rng (on original at least). It comes down to 95% routing skills, that's all. And it also doesn't need RnG, in contrary. If the game actually had significant RnG, it would be way easier, because the level design wouldn't be as tight anymore. The reason why shmups are so hard, is also because they have very tight level design. With RnG, your level design goes down the shitter.

>>158150991
i have all kinds of different bantz you are just attributing chav and mame doesn't count to me without considering all the other bantz i've contributed to this general

now apologize

>>158151069
Why would you waste time fucking around with punching bag enemies in DMC after getting through the piss easy main game when you can play challenging games with enemies that pose a threat

>>158151549
I didn't ask that question anywhere, learn how english works.

>>158151673
Maxxx please go.

>>158151580
RNG makes things harder actually. Devs have to be careful not to put too much of it because the more RNG there is the more luck and the less skill the game requires.

>>158150991
Saying MAME scores don't count isn't a "bantz" it's a fact.

>>158151852
>I didn't ask that question anywhere, learn how english works.
>it's another episode of is cee retarded or merely pretending?

>What kind of troll is this? I just posted a Gensuke 43 mill clear on farm for arcade and 70 mill for blue version 3 weeks ago.

>>158151706
S+SB ranking all of DMC on the highest difficulty is harder than 1ccing most beat them ups. 3d ones have a skill ceiling that dwarfs the 2d ones.

Anyone knows why no daifakkatsu 1.5 Pirate download ?

>>158152049
That "skill ceiling" is performing a bunch of arbitrary moves that even the game's scoring system doesn't properly reward, it's a fucking joke

>>158151853
RnG does not make things harder. Tight level design makes things harder. Of course, if you use RnG in a way where the level design still stays tight, then it makes it harder, but to do this, you have use only very little RnG, which many shmups already have.

If you use too much RnG, the whole level design gets out of controll, which means it's not tight anymore, ie easier. Of course you also could use RnG in a way where the game becomes partly unplayable, but if a dev does this, he clearly has no idea what he is doing.

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>>158151853
>RNG makes things harder actually.
don't bother his stubborness knows no bounds.

>>158151871
>>158151871
>Saying MAME scores don't count isn't a "bantz" it's a fact.


>>158152018
So where in that did you get me asking why my score doesn't count? The statement came before he brought up his epic mame meme in reponse to saying "neither do you", the implication wasn't clear until the clarification, what a retard you are lmao.

>>158152049
Nah, dmcs get pwned at agdq for reason. Much more likely to see failed 2d beatemup failed runs from great players.

>>158152571
>don't bother his stubborness knows no bounds.
Why do you even play shmups, if you think rng is so important for difficulty?
Using your logic Steredenn would be the new hardcore shmup, because it has randomly generated levels.

You are just another retard who has no idea what he is talking about.

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>>158139219
>tried to watch this show
>dropped it as soon as it was apparent they were making generic RPGshit instead of a shmup methodical masterpiece

>>158153001
yeah yeah whatever kraut, you are super intelligent we get it. I mean you don't even know what logic actually entails but still pleae share your thoughts.

>>158153181
>I have no arguments anymore, so I just throw insults

>>158153268
yes dear.

>>158152571
>Nah, dmcs get pwned at agdq for reason. Much more likely to see failed 2d beatemup failed runs from great players.
3d beat them ups simply have more difficulty scaling. You can play them in a very easy low skill way and beat them with no problem, not like 2d beat them ups. However they can also get extremely complex and difficult if you push to the highest level.

>>158152427
Well no shit a game won't become difficult with the addition of RNG if you compensate for it by making other parts of the game easier to balance it. If you don't take steps to make it easier, adding RNG will definitely make things more challenging even if it isn't in a good way

>>158153707
>beating a game efficiently and flawlessly is low level play
>fucking around with harmless enemies while the rank system doesn't know how to adequately grade what you're doing is high level play
Take your shit genre elsewhere, it's worse than memerunning

>>158153874
>thinking you can get through to the kraut

I admire your optimism.

>>158153874
The problem is that you can't add too much RnG though. You can add 2 kind of bullet patterns for enemies which they use randomly, or whatever, then the game becomes harder yes. But if you do significant changes, like making whole enemy formations random, or whole levels random, then the game actually becomes easier. because since evrything is random, and you can't memorize anymore, this means you basically have to be able to clear the game almost blind, in contrary to a shmup with really tight level design which you have to study for hundrets of hours to clear sometimes.

Either this or the game becomes unplayable.

>>158154169
Sounds like you're just shit at the genre and want it to congratulate you with high ranks for your low level play. And you act like DMC is the only game out there. Play something like Ninja Gaiden if you want to get fucked up by the deadliest enemies.

>>158152571
lmao quote it and call it a meme all you want, it won't make your scores real

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>>158154808
>it won't make your scores real

>>158154696
Not him but I've played both. DMC is harder on the highest difficulty.

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MAME is completely valid, unless you're willing to compare your score against those of Japanese players.

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>>158154808
>tfw you can't even beat my mame scores on an actual arcade and i use an 8 quid usb pad.

>>158155219
Emulation is never valid. It's easy as fuck to cheat on it to the point where you can't tell anymore if it's a cheat or not.

Only exception where emulation could be valid, is when you play it live on stream with a cam or whatever.

>>158155471
Oh really so years ago when LUY posted a score in STGT how was sikraiken able to prove he cheated and his pc as running the game at 50% speed from the INP data? You can always tell if you have an eye for it which you don't because you're a low tier shitplayer thus why you need to rant about MUH EMULATION. Anytime time to sleep gaylords wanna catch gus in the morning.

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>>158155809
Sleep snug

>>158155809
Of course if you are computer savvy enough, you probably also could tell from INP data, but if you just see a vid of the run (which already is more than enough proof for most western shmuppers), you theoretically could never be sure if it's a cheat or not.

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>>158155809
>Anytime time to sleep gaylords wanna catch gus in the morning.
Same here. I don't feel like waiting for Ketsui anymore. Fucking pinball.

>>158155809
The guy cheating was probably an idiot and made it really obvious to anyone who knows what real superplays look like. If you are actually a good player but decide to cheat you can pass it off as legit and nobody could ever tell. Only exception is for people who use WolfMAME because it is famous for anti cheat measures.

what type of dickless son of a bitch would dare play ddp dfk with anything but power mode?

For how long has this pinball been going fug

>>158157260
Shouldn't be too long any more. Ketsui should start any moment.

>>158157394
oh nice ketsui is next.
RIP that anon who gave up 15 mins ago

>>158154808
you have no score to share cause you don't play
fuckin poser

Why are they not showing Softdrink? he probably doesn't even play himself, they show just a vid.

>>158158720
Well he died so its definitely him.

>>158155401
>you can't even beat my mame scores on an actual arcade
im 100% sure i can get at least a single point

>>158131364
>I hate fun: the post
Reddit might be something to look into :^)

ketsui coming up? tuning in just to watch softwank fail

>>158145807
>>158148416
In terms of difficulty Battletoads arcade is comparable to a shmup of 25 points from that japanese STG difficulty list, which is more than a good challenge for most people in this site, not to mention that memerunning it like PJ is a lot more demanding as well.

shmup are still deeper in the long run due to looping and more complex scoring, but beat 'em ups are definitely worth experiencing and will keep you busy many hours.

rip ketsui run

>softcuck almost game overed in first loop
kek

That Ketsui run was cool.

What's a good shooty for casuls?

>Bananamatic called me out waaahhh
>now I have shown them all with superplay run of ketsui!

>>158160234
ketsui

>>158160234
Darius ll

>>158160042
Show me your Battletoads run if you think you know the game so much better than me. Almost every shmup is harder than this.

>softdrink's run was literally a replay

>>158160270
>Softdrink proved the world wrong with his unprecedented superplay of Ketsui live on twitch
Masaka...

>>158160506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykYSa0DV_c
it took me more time than a shit clear of Dangun Feveron

>>158160654
>Vludi
Mame doesn't count, you obvious cheater.

>>158160780
owned

>>158152323
Don't know anon. I looked for one and couldn't find it.
I think I'm just going to buy it though while it's still on sale.

Why am I the only one mentioning how Softdrink talked about Bananafaggot? I thought that was a pretty interesting highlight so far.

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>arcade superplay
>Mushihimesama, maniac (survival run)
How is that superplay? I'm terrible at shmups and I can almost 1CC Mushi on maniac.

>>158161609
because bananafaggot called him out on playing the game for 5 years and still not having a basic 1cc survival path down? whats there to talk about its true

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>>158161624
I dunno but that's a cute girl. Yano or something, isn't it?

>>158161624
I think someone else came up with the slogan for this event. I doubt Softdrink actually thinks of himself as a superplayer. America just doesn't have many good players.

>>158161789
Yes, it's true. But he actually mentioned this live, so it must have gotten really to him.

>>158161789
Damn, is Banana our boy?

>>158162416
no, that's still me ("Kraut").

>>158162552
>kraut
>thinking he's anyone's boy let alone our's

>>158163008
you mean I'm your man, r-right?

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>>158162552
Don't worry, I was just joking. We would never forget about you!

>>158162131
Softdrink is the best in the west. He's about to make Mushihimesama his bitch.

>>158163406
I'd argue Jaimers is the best in the west.

>>158164020
sfkoa is Canadian right?

>>158164087
no idea, never heard of that one

I think some people just don't train as intensive as others. That's why they played the game since 5 years already and still are mediocre at it. They just play it for fun, every now and then, instead of going full autismo practicing every day.

>>158165205
p-people play games for fun?!

>>158148837
Seimitsu LS-56 is better with octagonal gate than the default square, so that's what I did, but I switched from that to an LS-32 later, which only has square. It just feels better.

>>158165735
Perhaps fun wasn't right word. Casually would fit better. When I practice a shmup, I play it almost every day, study other superplays, and don't stop with the game until I have at least 1cced it. Only then I PERHAPS switch to another game depending on how much I like the current one.

But others probably just play it every second day, or only 3 times a week, not studying replays (and by studying I mean really studying frame for frame, not just watching a replay), switch games inbetween, before they even can 1cc it. If you train like this, it's no wonder you are still mediocre after 5 years playing the game.

>>158163097
CCWI has made you a man!

>>158166097
My Ikaruga score was actually harder than my current CCWI score.
Not that CCWI would be easy, but Ikarugas scoring system is much more punishing than that of CCWI.

>>158165864
>I switched from that to an LS-32 later, which only has square. It just feels better.
Just curious, did your LS-32 come with two gates installed (a light blue gate and a dark blue gate on top of it)? Did you get rid of the dark blue gate or leave it in?

>>158166531
Yes, it had the dark blue gate. I wasn't sure what to do with it at first, but after looking at several Japanese pages detailing the joystick I concluded that the blue gate is normally left screwed on in cabinets and considered part of the appearance, so I left it on.

>>158166510
I remember you differently in the pre-Crimzon Clover days. Something has been at work here; maybe it's the sheer playtime and the harsh unfamiliarity of CCWI coming from other games.

Mushihimesama superplay coming through

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All this talk about beat-em-ups is making me want to play some. Haven't played Streets of Rage Remake in a while...

Its your boy with a lets play comin thru.

>>158167624
Stream it

How can I save my scores on shumpmame? Some games which aren't original shumpmame titles save them by themselves. That's what I'd like for tgm (and shumps).

>>158167439
I think that's just because you people here perceived me wrong. It basically became a meme to hate me for no good reason. But with the time you began to know me better, and realized that I am actually pretty damn awesome.

>>158167853
you can probably make a savestate.

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>>158167756
Busy for now, maybe in a few hours I'll do it.

>>158168112
For me it's that I've never seen whatever you did prior to this thread that made everyone hate you, so I never really knew what the deal was with that to begin with.

>>158167439
Or wait, did you mean I found CC harder in the earlier days? Yes, that's true, but I just had to practice it. In Ikaruga, I often even had to restart stage 1 even after 300 hours, because if you make a single mistake there, your score is fucked.

>>158168346
I basically just defended Ikaruga when people talked shit about it (which they constantly did), and did get a bit harsh there sometimes, especially against Cave fans, because it mostly are Cave fans who talk bad about Ikaruga.

>>158167481
where?

>>158169009
soon

>>158168112
It's never as simple as that, but yeah, you're alright. I've never agreed with your argumentative side (I don't like the way you carry out arguments because how you do it is not very stoic), but I can respect the dedication you raise to shmups, above all.

Wow KevinDDR can at least speak with a sort of Japanese accent instead of sounding full on burger. The weeb in me respects that!! Just made me realise that I've never heard a Westie NOT butcher the pronunciation of "Mushihimesama".

Is Gus going to play Mushi with his shirt off?

>>158168112
>>158168543
I've said it since the beginning, the only reason people were mad at you is because you had the nerve to defend Ikaruga while everyone was pushing the gay ikaruga a shit xD meme.
Fuck them, Ikaruga is damn good.

>>158169174
My dedication to shmups is actually still pretty low. I am still complete utter shit at them, and hardly practice. CCWI score is also shit. Not even half of the WR score, it's pathetic.

futari on steam when?

wtf i love Ikaruga now

Ikaruga is an interesting puzzle game but a shit stg

>>158169551
Another reason was also Cee, who pushed the whole hate bandwagon like no other against me, after we had an argument.

>>158169621
It's a lot more than most people can command.

>gus playing like shit
exactly what i expected but sasuga it hurts

https://www.twitch.
tv/superplay

Did they somehow left out Softdrinks Mushi run? And is Gus playing instead now?

The schedule said that gus actually played in 5 hours or so... People just went to bed to be able to watch him...

>>158170579
>Did they somehow left out Softdrinks Mushi run?
It was delayed because they couldn't get the audio working. I guess they just dropped it entirely.

God, shmuppers really are weirdos...

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Wait, is that how Gus actually talks?
I mean, I don't really watch his streams so I don't know! I only saw him scream his heart out like twice!

I thought he was doing some kidn of Elvis impression at first.
He did a great job though!

https://twitter.com/shmupsforum_txt/status/788314270593232896

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>>158172567
Yeah Gus is amazing at Futari Ultra

dfk c-power-style in HEY now, I missed it, it's already in middle of 2nd loop

gus was nervous as fuck

>>158172567
Yeah, it's that sexy southern drawl

>>158173125
The mad man actually did it. 2-ALL EX

>>158173271
I think he just looked depressed. The whole run looked from the beginning as if he was unsatisfied with it, because he played with so many extra lives.

He probably constantly had the words of the Japanese player running through his head telling him he is an insignificant player overall.

Is dariusburst worth $15 more than deathsmiles? Only gonna pick up one until the next sale.

Maybe I should just wait for a 66% discount on dariusburst though

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>>158174439
and that was with power style, the absolute madman

Darius Gaiden when

>>158174743
>今日はなんて日だ
>what a day, today
japs are just as impressed at good plays as us desu

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>>158174732
DBCS is easily worth its default price, let alone when it's on sale!

But it depends on what you want. If you want the CAVE bullet hell experience then naturally you'd want to get Deathsmiles.

>>158175791
Fuck anon I'm so tempted. I even have two of the same monitor with thin bezels

>>158175919
>two monitors
Time to kill some fish anon

>normies playing their rhythm games again

>>158176020
DDR players really are the worst

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>>158175919
>two of the same monitor with thin bezels
I'm jelly!

>>158176020
>people defend rhythm games and think they're as good as shmups
lol
just
lol

>>158174743
ura 2all or regular 2all?

>>158178459
ura

>>158178590
epic. simply epic.

>>158178639
another beast is playing right now, 5000億 already on 2-2.

>>158178994
live WR on HEY stream when?

>>158179179
idk, let's see if the guy can reach 8000 first

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>>158179279
he dropped chain in 2-5, rip dreams

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>>158181867
>Deathsmiles Mega Black Label
Someone tell me what this is

>>158182029
that's the game title schedule for next week, HEY has weekly game streamed and currently it's DFK

Do you ever have a day where you just play like shit?
Is that day every day?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYrhg6jwtXE

holy fuck why is donkey kong still on

>>158176194
they're also more fit than you

>>158183209
Not so much nowadays, but that's because now I just stick to a shmup I feel comfortable in so even when I have an off day I feel like I can still play somewhat respectable.

>>158183892
Didnt you watch the schedule anon?
>Donkey Kong projected running time: 3:30:00

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>>158182193
Oh, I see. Cool.

>>158183209
Sometimes. When that happens, I quit early and do something else!

>>158167756
All right /bemupg/ I'm probably gonna suck but here goes. http://twitch tv/harrykoakuma

>>158184298
This seriously is autistic as fuck.

I thought shmup scorefags were bad, but this is on a whole different level. At least shmup runs are generally pretty short and way more interesting mechanically

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>>158184298
How come it's so long?

>>158184592
Because the game loops until it gets to a kill screen or some shit.

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>>158184684
Ah right, at some point the timer becomes too short to possibly clear the level or something. I forgot about that. Why would anyone want to watch that?

>>158184457
Plans are changing. SoRR was too intense and I can't stream it properly. We Double Dragon now.

>>158184557
you are new to shmups right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BJCAtvodtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkpiLyHqvzU

A moment of silence for all the anons who went to sleep for the Mushi Futari run

>>158186171
They didn't miss anything baka desu senpai.

>>158186221
They still missed their chance to be dissapointed.
desu it could have gone way worse, it was an alright run for a marathon setting

STG Weekly crew living up to expectations again.

>>158186171
Eh, I'll just watch the VOD later.

Sky Shark is cool!

Is Sky Shark shmup kino?

>>158176020
>>158178351
reminder sikraiken is a god at rhythm games and ddp.

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Space fish is up next btw

Is Gus gay for banana?

>>158188051
At least I'll be on time for something cool.

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Who says Da-rai-us?
It's Da-ree-us, like the name!

I know it's officially the first one, but I just like the second pronunciation better!

>>158188124
Well they are the only Western players to clear Futari 1.5 Ultra..... So they like to 69 with each other probably.

>>158188163
I pronounce it De-ri-us desu

>>158148715
>but they are still about memorization
>but the patterns you have to memorize there are pretty simple.
Memory isn't gonna help when an enemy who has a shitton of various attacks decides that this time, he's gonna throw a knife at you, off-screen, before you even get to see him. I'd say shmups are far more about memory.
But whatever, you've already invalidated your opinion by admitting you've never even tried to 1cc an arcade beat 'em up.

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>>158188376
Now that is just wrong!

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>>158188506
I dont care, I've been pronouncing gradius the same way all this time and it sure isnt gonna change now

>>158188180
Jaimers cleared it too, but with a bad score

Good morning lads, slept through softdrink and Gus did i miss much?

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This guy playing Darius Gaiden jesus

>>158184942
Hazza plz play a proper arcade bmup like cadillacs n dinosaurs or night slashers.

>>158160234
A lot of them, if you just go for 1-ALL. I'm serious, pick any you like and you'll clear it eventually. This is why I play shmups desu, they are very easy to "beat". Beat 'em ups have low skill ceiling compared to shmups and other genres, but you are forced to headbutt that ceiling if you want to just 1cc them.

>>158189152
Gus barely cleared even with the extends he got, he showed off all his routes though and normies were highly impressed, also see screencaps posted in this thread. Gus's face was fun to watch as they made sure to centre the camera on it properly. Intense concentration and worry amplified by his deep-set dark eyes and straight eyebrows. No real spergouts.

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>>158189207
Sorry, I don't have any of those.

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>>158189195
It's almost like it's me playing it...

>>158189441
THE INTERNET HARRY!!! USE IT!

>>158189421
Sounds pretty funny i'l watch the vod, what's this i hear about softdrink taking an emo swipe at bananafagit?

>>158189421
Well, they woke him up earlier than expected because they canceled the Mushihimesama run, so he wasn't exactly in shape.

>>158169965
No kraut get the facts straight, it started when i tried to help you out with satazius and you went into a bizzarre rage a bout no one gets to tell you anything. This happened multiple times so from that point on i realised you were completely ridiculous, legitimately mental and not worth bothering with in any sensible way.

>>158189494
Didn't watch Softdrink, I basically scrambled to watch Gus play when I read that the schedule had been rearranged. Gus played more poorly than he does on his home stream on average sadly, but the atmosphere was nice. You could tell that he is of a different caliber than the rest of the shmup crew, even if not superplayer material anyway.

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>>158189471
Give yourself some credit neot, you are certainly not THAT bad.

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>>158189421
I watched just a bit of it before, already felt kinda bad for how bad of a run he's having from the start. You can feel the shock and disappointment that he's experiencing with every death.

>>158189787
>You could tell that he is of a different caliber than the rest of the shmup crew,
Word, watching the vod now... i'd happily chill with gus desu. Aquas did 2 all muchi pork though which is pretty cool.

>>158189931
Tbf when you are performing live for the first time and on a setup you're not used to it's always a big shock just how the nerves effect you, that considered he did (halfway through now) pretty damn well. It's also like the worse game imaginable to perform live a first time, completely respect Gus's effort and wonder when motor mouth banana will ever do the same? He won't even show his face or voice lmao.

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I just noticed this, I thought it was joke. What's the current WR btw?

I wasn't too impressed with Gus' run.

Changing the extends so heavily seems very dishonest to me.

>>158190159
The contrast between random japs being shmup gods at the HEY! stream and American "superplayers" delivering literal amateur let's-plays is so bad my mind has been blocking this out... It could not have been better!

>>158190471
This is why no one likes you kraut.

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>>158190142
Yeah, at least he gave himself some leeway with the getting an extend per 80mil points thing.
Huge respect for Gus!

>>158189906
Th-thanks. But I really am bad at it!
I hadn't played any Darius games except G until DBCS finally came out. And now I'm trying to play and master them all!

>>158190471
I dunno seems like a necessary alteration for a marathon run for a game like Futari Ultra. I suppose he could have credit feeded too but it doesnt seem like that huge of a deal to me desu

>>158190793

Credit feeding would have been better since it shows the standard rules of the game and how it actually plays. Would it have locked him out of a Larsa fight?

Personally I think Futari Ultra just makes the whole genre look bad but that's just me I guess.

>>158190793
I think Gus did it so that he wouldn't give normies the idea that it's fine to credit-feed your way through a shmup. It's dishonest to us because we already take for granted that a 1cc is the bare minimum, but you need to think outside of that.

>>158191038

But it is okay to change the extends to clear?

>>158191119
It was the lesser of two evils.

But guys, if he had creditfeeded his score would've been reset every time.
It was supposed to be a scoring run and that's what he showed off.

>>158191038
Tbh no one here has a right to say shit when none of us play the game or have even cleared it. No one likes having plebs tell you about what you do, trust me some of the guwange arc/blue discussions i saw on discord before i left that shite were breathtakingly ignorant between without saying names 2 guys who don't even have 15 mill in either but of course they have to think they're experts.

>>158191208
Yeah it was great desu krauts just being super hardcore and stubborn from his bedroom again.

>>158191119
Yes in a marathon setting.

>>158190997
The next TLB form doesn't appear if you continue, so yes

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>when you get a good run but forget to record it

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>>158192302
Never happened to me, but that still sounds awful. Or even worse, the in-game replay system makes faulty replays and you realize that after the 1cc.

DFK on the Taito stream has been sooo good today.

>>158192425
>xbox live disconnects and you get kicked out of the game

Great ports cave

>dat 2-5 boss milking
I though it's a disgrace to do that in arcade center, apparently it's not. Not sure why people skipping 2-4 boss milking, is it considered not worthy?

damn, i skip mushi futari

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>>158184457
Stream's finally over, thanks for watching /bmupg/. Got into some weird stuff over the course of the night and none of it had to do with shmups I'm sorry for being so off topic I won't do it again

But since we're here does anyone know what this thing is in pic related? It was a boss from the SMW hack I was streaming tonight.

>>158194252
The sprite is the Mammon Machine from Chrono Trigger

>>158187697
>>158187734
Sky Shark is cool, that fucking Gradius syndrome though.

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I swear, this game does whatever the fuck it wan't at times.

>>158197903
You were hit right before collecting the 1 up.

>>158197903
wut gaem! I kinda want an STG with the Su-47! or the F-22! or the X02 WYVERN!

>>158197539
Every good STG has the Gradius syndrome!

>>158197903
how many games you cleared? it feels like you play a new game every few days. i'm no better though, the more i get into shmups the less i want to touch other genres, so focusing on one is hard.

>>158199172
A few. I get bored of playing same thing for long easily.

>>158199359
>I get bored of playing same thing for long easily.
This attitude is really bad. When you always switch games, you will never become decent at any game, which means you will always play boring. The better you play a shmup the most interesting it also becomes.

>>158151852
I was out on the piss m8 that wasn't me

>>158199453
I know, go all the way or don't even bother.
Right now I'm doing pretty good job of not bothering.

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>>158062972
>picking a girl ship
lmao i bet you enable autofire too

How do i get gud?

>>158204159
play and use savestates

Does a type Z 1cc of Crimso Clover WI arcade original count?

>>158204526
Yes

>>158204526
Only if you use keyboard

>>158204526
Why wouldn't it?

>>158204526
A 1cc is a 1cc.
Some 1cc's are harder than others, sure, but that doesn't invalidate the other 1cc's.

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>>158207269
Still not as bad as Xevious

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>>158207216
a 1cc is a 1cc, you can't say it's only a half.

How do I hold an arcade stick when playing shmups?

>>158208168
Insert it into your anus.

>>158208168
carefully

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>>158207537
I don't remember it being like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4jwkuIs5qI

>>158208168
There are a million different ways to hold an arcade stick.
You're just going to have to figure out what YOU are most comfortable with.

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>>158208469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDwivbWwnt8

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>>158208834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-B0hmWp_Ls&list=PL892BDEE7296FCFDD&index=4

>>158197903
It looks like you may have got hit the frame you got the 1-up.

>>158204526
I've heard Type Z was intended for Unlimited, Bu that's not important, what's important is if you regret using it. I certainly not.

>>158198902
>wut gaem!
eschatos

>>158209365
i should do second loop after beating solar striker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjEvEwcgIQk

How do you guys deal with carpal tunnel from button mashing all day? I love Darius Gaiden but I dunno if I should keep playing it so much.

>>158215069
use autofire, nobody cares

>>158215130
Hard mode: no autofire.

>>158215243
If you want to keep your hand half destroyed for the next 50+ years of your life, I'm here to have a sensible chuckle.

>>158215069
By refusing to play games that require autofire. Poor design choice desu,

Is the Steam version of DDP a good starting point for someone relatively new to Shmups?

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>>158215243
just use it

>>158215069
Just play with autofire. It's a meme that Darius Gaiden becomes super-easy when you use it, but that's complete bullshit. The game is hard as shit with it too.

It's not hard to button-mash either - depending on your controller I guess - and it's not difficulty.

>>158187895
literally who cares about sikraiken? he sux at ddp any way

>>158164020
Jaimers is a 1cc collector with only a few good scores

>>158217672
How many Westerners have a Ketsui 2ALL and a CCWI Unlimited clear?

>>158217086
>It's a meme that Darius Gaiden becomes super-easy when you use it
it's not

>The game is hard as shit with it too.
maybe if you've played shmups for a week

>>158217086
>The game is hard as shit with it too
It's not even the hardest Darius, and the hardest Darius isn't that bad either if you follow an easy route.

>>158217086
I have to agree with the other guy desu, you can almost insta kill bosses with autofire.

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>Doing a No-bomb nor Autofire run
>First level
>About to die because of bad positioning
>unconsciously spam Bomb button
>Feel like a shitter for the rest of the run
>Too ashamed to restart