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'tis the season

Whipped >>158009110

>1.08 patch notes
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/241332569600668256

>Ashes of Ariandel DLC Stuff
http://pastebin.com/W1XH72P2

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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First for sl120 is shit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPYwf6by9jw

Second for POISE
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>>158019858

Did From fix offhand GA? I'm using the poise testing table and I'm not sure if the table is lagging or it's just not instant anymore.
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>streamers get early access to the DLC
>on PC
tired of this shit 2bh
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WHY THE FUCK IS BAMCO GIVING LITERAL RETARDS FREE PASS
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Footfags burn in hell.
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>>158019951
No need to roll now
Stack poise and HA trade all day
Make fat rolls great again
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>>158019973
To shill their shitty DLC. Remember what happened with DaS2? Remember how fucking awesome ENB said it was? Yeah.
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>>158019964
I feel like they may have, it doesn't feel as good as it was before

Though leftaxe was never instant hyper armour for me like people were saying it was *shrug*
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>>158020004
you can both roll and abuse HA
equip something light as a mace
stack poise
poise EVERYTHING
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>>158020053
Its funny how ENB doesnt even make any videos anymore. I guess being a twitch fag pays more.
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No, Rose of Arandiel does NOT have hyper armor, during r1s or r2s

It does have hyper armor during the WA.. so you can get hit more while hurting yourself
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>>158020092
>>158020004
Reminder that medium and fat rolls have poise at a 0.25 penalty. Being hit while rolling will drain your poise fast.
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037CA3A0 Follower Helm
037CA788 Follower Armor
037CAB70 Follower Gloves
037CAF58 Follower Boots

034EDCE0 Slave Knight Hood
034EE0C8 Slave Knight Armor
034EE4B0 Slave Knight Gauntlets
034EE898 Slave Knight Leggings

01312D00 Vilhelm's Helm
013130E8 Vilhelm's Armor
013134D0 Vilhelm's Gauntlets
013138B8 Vilhelm's Leggings

039B2820 Millwood Knight Helm
039B2C08 Millwood Knight Armor
039B2FF0 Millwood Knight Gauntlets
039B2820 Millwood Knight Leggings

035E1F20 Ordained Hood
035E2308 Ordained Dress
035E2AD8 Ordained Trousers

000623E0 Millwood Greatarrow
00222E00 Onyx Blade
003EDDC0 Follower Sabre
006D67D0 Millwood Battle Axe
006D8EE0 Earth Seeker
007ECCF0 Quakestone Hammer
008CD6B0 Follower Javelin
009B55A0 Friede's Great Scythe
00A89C10 Crow Talons
00B82C70 Rose of Ariandel
00CC9ED0 Pyromancer's Parting Flame
00D85EA0 Millwood Greatbow
00F646E0 Valorheart
00F66DF0 Crow Quills
0135C0E0 Follower Shield
01450320 Ethereal Oak Shield

000002E8 Soul of Sister Friede
00000869 Champion's Bones
0000086A Captain's Ashes
0000086B Contraption Key

001408E8 Frozen Weapon
001A90C8 Snap Freeze
00257DA8 Floating Chaos
003642A0 Way of White Corona

To Item Swap in Armor, set the first digit of the ID to 1. To Item Swap in Items or spells, set it to 4. For weapons, no change is necessary.
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>>158020092
>>158020004
Good.
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>>158019973
Because they don't care anymore. If they'd care they would have released the DLC today for everyone, it would've made more sense anyway since people would've had tons of time to play on the weekend.
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>>158020176
HURT ME MORE
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>>158020232
What stats do those need?
I am making a scythe build RIGHT NOW.
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Tired of Bandai Namco lads.
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>>158020259
>releasing the DLC 4 days before the announced date
Literally never happens, grow up.
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>>158020176
>no hyperarmor

That's a shame. At least it's fast and unparryable with bleed.
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>>158020176
My weaponfu. I don't even need faith.
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>Friede's catalyst that is automatically there when you equip her scythe clips through the Friede cape
lmao
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>>158020334
Well it did for Xbox One
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Who would like to see a Demons Souls remastered for ps4? It'd have to be remastered and not just a port because of the god damn PS3 cell architecture, but fuck I hate having to get out the ps3 JUST for demon's souls
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>>158020334
I know, but people already have access to it, so why would it matter anymore?
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>>158020334
Not on purpose, at least. Happened with DaS2 scholar rerelease and now again for xb1. I think it was xbox both times, too.
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>>158020372
>her leggings clip out of the robe
It's just one big clipping mess.
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>>158020227
Which is why you're not rolling
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>>158020289
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>>158020394
I imagine they have plans to remaster it. It's the only reason I can think of for why it's not on PS Now.
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>>158020274
YOUR FAITH LACKS SOMETHING
YOU CALL YOURSELF A CLERIC?
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>>158020438
>Not on purpose
Of course. Microsoft fuck this up all the time though.
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Earthen Wrath is impossible to hit anyone with in pvp

It makes such an incredulously threatening noise and graphic effect that even people with hyper armor weapons seeing it for the first time will run the fuck away
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>>158019858
>nito op
yes
thank you
very good
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>>158020394
Nah, it's outdated as fuck. The bosses are slow and the PvP is pretty shit.
It'd only be fun for destroying shitters with scrapping spear and running firestorms.
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>>158020474
466 phys holy shit.
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>>158020394
It'd be nice.

>they patch all the broken shit they couldn't before
>sixth archstone dlc
>add curved greatsword and greatbow weapon class, old hero's curved sword reclassed to curved greatsword
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>>158020569
Weapons like that aren't for duels

Ultra/Great weapons arne't dueling weapons neither in real life nor in this game. They're weapons of war.

That weapon art is what you use in a gankspank or teamfight and fuck multiple people or scatter them
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>>158019973
What I don't understand is how Soulbrandt wasn't in on this. The only reason Peeve got to play the DLC early is because he owns the game on xbone.

Isn't Soulbrandt supposed to be Bamco's marketing team?
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>>158020619
I'm on my max level testing account, so don't read too much into that.
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Can you invade as the gravetender? This is important
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>>158020656
It seems as if it's due to Bamco's incompetence. They got "press copies", Soulbrandt doesn't play on PC.
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>>158020474
So what would be the best build for this? 40 dex 30 int? or just go quality with minimal int and faith requirements?
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>>158020625
>they patch all the broken shit they couldn't before

how about no

I enjoy having one souls game with useful magic
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Best Greatshields atm for PvP / PvE?
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>The frost effect on weapons has a really subtle sound effect
>When you notice it you can't stop noticing it
>It literally drives me crazy
That's how pontiff made his knights insane.
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>>158020704
oh right. Probably around 400 then.
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>>158020746
MOST
EVIL
MAN
IN
SOULS
UNIVERSE
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>>158020746
It can't be more annoying than the Physical Shield sound effect from Fable 1.
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how much as the game changed compared to release with the last patch ?

I bought it but never played much, sticking with my base weapon for the whole game was awful.
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>>158020176
>based miyazaki telling clerics to kill themselves
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>>158020715
I dont think anyone knows yet
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>>158020745
always havel
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>>158020608
>flamelurker
>king allant
>maneaters

>>>>>>>>SLOW
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>>158020715
Very important, this is easily a deal-breaker.
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>>158020334

Happened for Xbox One ;^)

The definition of anti-consumerist bullshit like Namco Bandai's policy is when they completely fuck up and then still expect customers who GIVE THEM MONEY to gracefully accept the restrictions they don't even care about following themselves.

They're such fucking jokes it really is unbelievable.
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>>158020882
>tfw flamelurker stood completely still from start to finish the first time I fought him for some reason

Pretty slow yeah.
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I miss gimmick bosses like DeS had.
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>>158020606
you need the animated one mate
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At what point in the game can you enter the DLC?
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>>158020642
I'm talking about invasions dog, you can't ambush with it

They have to be basically retarded and r1 into it while not paying attention to the extremely loud earthquake or AoE
Well, I guess that isn't a hard condition
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>>158020960
Wow looks like we got a l33t hacker over here
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>>158020982
Have you not played Dark Souls 3?
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>>158021000
cool, have some calcium oc
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>>158020882
Flamelurker and Allant are slow as shit by modern standards
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Are fat rolls build viable with the new poise ?
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>>158021050
Could just be some memory leak or whatever. Bloodborne bosses bugged out pre-patch sometimes.
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>>158020786
>E str scaling
>E fth scaling
>character has 40 everything

If it's less than 650 at 40dex/40int and min str/fth, I'll be shocked.
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>>158020882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElaleopmewU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtu9OZfQ1yg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASgsL3INnl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxRvPgVijKo
Take off your nostalgia glasses.
New gen souls bosses > old gen souls bosses. Faster and more diverse movesets.
Allant's theme still rocks though.
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>>158021092
Last I checked there were no cool bosses like Old Hero or Armor Spider.
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Are we Esports yet??
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I downloaded what I think is the newest table, but when I open it its empty. What's up with that? I just got CE 6.6 and my older tables work fine.
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Does mid rolls and fat rolls affect the new pose ?
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>>158021172
>Armor spider
>Fun or cool
Fuck off
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>>158021142
I'm talking about phys only tho
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>Slave knight armor
Fashion is on point desu
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why are crossbows so fucking good in dark souls
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>>158021241
Why would you use it as physical only when it has A int scaling?
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>>158021297
I'm not. I was thinking about it in comparison to other scythes. Was also wondering if magic damage was for the magic scythe.
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>None of the gaming news sites mention that the DLC is up early on Xbox one
Whats going on?
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>>158021168
okay maybe you're right

it's still a good game though
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What's the best chest piece to go with Yuria's billed mask, gauntlets and leggings? I've been trying the black knight armor but those stupid pointy collar thingies ruin everything.
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>>158021172

You could've said Astraea.
You could've said Old Monk.
You could've said Fool's Idol.
You could've said Storm King.
You could've said Tower Knight.

>but you fucking said Armour Spider
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>>158021178
We that one arena option means passworded groups vs randoms(or other passworded groups) then maybe. Healers and spellcasters will be essential.
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>>158021221
The Patch broke a whole lot of shit.
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>>158021487
>You could've said Astraea.
All muhlore, zero gameplay complexity.
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>>158021475

Cornyx's Robes for MAXIMUM CROW but then i'm just biased towards this chest armor.
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>>158021430
>anyone, even in the press, using an Xbone, ever
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>>158021487
>Tower Knight
>Storm King
>Astraea
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>>158021137
They only changed hyperarmor, so no
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How does soul level work in the arena, when it comes to matchmaking et cetera?
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>>158021542
No, when I open the table its blank. Like when I just open the das1 or 2 tables it displays everything, but this new das3 table I got is blank.
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>>158021559
>>158021580

>current year
>not reading the whole post-chain you're replying to
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Anyone have the stat requirements for the new greatbow?
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>>158021749
>NPC fight
>Gimmick
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>>158021749
I did. They're worse than Armor Spider. Especially fucking Storm King.
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>>158021763
30/12 iirc
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Judge me by my weapons

Glaive
Lothric Knight Sword
Gargoyle Flame Spear
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Post slave knight butts
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Demon's Souls probably had the most interesting concepts on average but the bosses are outdated in comparison to now. A remaster would require them to have to heavily change them or rebuild them from the ground up.
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How is this faggot able to play the DLC on PC ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDTrFaDOBx0
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>>158021938
Connections in Bamco.
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For the Gotthardfags out there:

I suggest switching to the Corvian Greatknife. It basically does the same thing with the 2H rolling poke with leo ring, but it's also amazing once you get used to how to use the first R1 swing and the rolling R1 effectively. Both attacks are incredibly fast, once you learn how to stay on top of people, roll around attacks, and roll catch with it, it's brutal.

If you need the fast rollpokes, the Greatknife is for you.
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>>158021910
townshit/10.
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>>158021910
Shitter that can only use meta shit /10
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>>158021906
Damn guess I'm going Str then. Thanks
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>>158021938
>"I have no idea why I can play it"
That's bullshit. Bamco must have given him early access.
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>>158021938
It looks like people who got the Press Release copies of the game on PC are also getting the DLC early.
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>>158021938
snowflake streamers on pc have access
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>>158022056
Started using gargoyle shit spear yesterday for testing
Glaive isn't meta
and I've been using lothric knight sword since the beginning of DS3

are my excuses good enough?
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>>158021910
I raise you with

Crescent Axe
Dark Sword
Wolnir's Holy Sword
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>>158022061

What's the deal with the new greatbow? Is it actually usable outside of dragonslayer thief ring + sniping people? Like can you actually use it in a duel or something now?
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>>158022208
Sure, Scott "I've been using Carthus before you even start playing" Jund
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How do I wear the fallen knight set without looking like a noob?
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>>158022270
only xboners and a handful of pc people have the dlc
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>>158022110
yeah this is it I think
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>>158022308
Don't wear the helm
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Hey.
Anyone willing to drop me a fast internet connection and an i7 so I can stream and get DLC access 3 days before anyone else?
PC, btw. Thank.
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>>158022308
You don't. However, FK + SS + Shield of Want makes people underestimate you a lot, which is very useful
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>>158021910
Blades of Mercy
HMS
Ludwig`s
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>>158022208
>are my excuses good enough?

No.

>>158022316
Yeah I assumed one of those people in the thread would answer me.

Honestly the only spoilers I'm looking to avoid are things like video/pics/story of the DLC. I'd still like to know about the weapons.
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>>158021995
>>158022091
>>158022110
>>158022202
So, essentially the same shit that happened on release, right ? When xbox could play the English version in March and streamers got the PC version from Bamco. Fucking shit.
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>>158022091
It seems to be a side effect of the press release copies.

Bamco may just be so retarded they didn't even realize this would happen, so they didn't alert anyone.
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What are weapons work well for a pyromancer? I use the Gargoyle spear and witch lock but I would like to use something more "classic" like a hammer, a sword or an axe.
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>>158022279
Just saying because LKS became meta just lately because people figured out it was a great weapon for almost every situation

>>158022250
Respectable build except for Dark Sword
It has been nerfed but the shitter image remained I guess
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>>158022332
But I like the helmet
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>>158022308
Dark sword and kite shield.
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>>158021910

Corvian Greatknife
Offhand Arbalest with Heavy/Sniper bolts
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>>158022316
Anyone on PC can get the weapons though. See >>158020232
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That scythe is fucking shit.
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How do I stop people from running away in pvp? Whenever I get invaded or invade it takes me so goddamn long to chase them down and kill them. literally 10+ minutes some times

it's gotten to the point where i've started to summon phantoms just so I can clear areas in a decent time
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>>158022472
Wait for DLC and pick up onyx
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>>158022472
Battle axe, gargoyle flame hammer, lothric knight sword, all dark infused.
And when the DLC drops, you'll have the torch
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>>158022335

I have both those things and don't have early access? What did I do wrong?
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>>158022541
>>158022551
I have my eyes on the Onyx since it's reveal, it seems to be a beast. I don't know for the torch though
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>>158022529
Get something with a good running attack, like a katana or spear.
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>it's another "phantom tries to parry my bandit's knife over and over again until they die" bloodshade invasion episode

When will they learn?
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>>158022472
Astora GS
Murakumo
Corvian Scythe
Drakeblood Greatsword
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>>158022617
Everyone will use Onyx, I'll use the torch so I can be a snowflake
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>>158021048
don't you get sad when killing players like that? I hate fighting players that have no idea how to play and just swing mindlessly
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>>158022495
i came to grief/10
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Any EU fags here that can't connect to psn?
I fucking can't
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>>158022270
The weapon art has a small aoe go off after hitting its mark. Don't have the dlc, but I would like to know if the thing goes off if it's stuck on people.
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>>158022015

Seems all the Corvian weapons are getting upgrades in time for the DLC.

Good stuff.
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>>158022567
you need to git famous
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>>158020394
I'd buy a PS4 just for that game.
I guess DaS1 would be nice too.
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>painting lady is a footfu
>she swings her feet kinda like MiB
Doujins when

w h e n
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>>158022669
torch is pyro
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>>158022472

Those are basically your cores.

I tend to run a Dark infusion on some light one-handed cancer weapon like Carthus as well and it works fine because cancer is cancer even with split damage.

I also tend to carry around a Lightning infused Dragonslayer's Axe as you have enough faith to make it a worthwhile back up in some situations

Onyx Blade is looking set to be a choice pyro weapon in the new DLC, also.
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>first invader of the patch is a memer with ccs and acid surge running away
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Holy fucking shit, did it always do so much damage through shields?
And it's not even a quality build.
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>>158022864
Yes so, what's that different from what I said?
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>>158022529
Crossbow. Crossbow solves a lot of problems actually.
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>>158022551
Why dark though? Is chaos not good for a pyro?
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>>158022721

Are they? All I know is they improved the blind spot animation for it but I never use that shit to begin with. You just R1 move forward R1 move forward R1 rolling R1 R1 (luckily combos 2 pokes instead of going into the slash which is great), etc. Main skill is gitting gud at rolling around attacks and staying super aggressive.

I finally went through the process of farming it this morning and I'm really happy with it, I started with getting my ass kicked while practicing in duels, to winning with a sliver of life left a lot, to finally fucking destroying people and even flawless victory'ing them.

It feels good when you summon someone and you flawless them and they try to run away with a sliver of health and you arbalest them for the kill. God, offhand arbalest is so damn good.
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>>158022335
sure, here you go
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>>158022945
estoc always had the strongest shield piercing, for whatever reason
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>>158022308
switch the helmet with the drakeblood helm
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>>158022945
darkdrift did the same before patch, not sure now
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>>158022973
i meant to say torch ISN'T pyro
the fire scaling is abysmal
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Please, tell me:

What's the meta?
What's the best way to make people send hatemail to you on 1v1?

Thanks.
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>>158023072
No. Fuck off Memer.
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>>158023072
Any spear behind a shield
Keep good spacing and people will literally hunt you irl
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>>158023072
>What's the best way to make people send hatemail to you on 1v1?
Right now, spam acid surge.
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>>158023072
spam acid surge before everyone buys repair powder and upgrades backup weapons
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>>158022945
hmmm... kinda makes me wonder how viable estoc with offhand black knight shield would be for invasions.

i just kinda dropped thrusting swords altogether after the final nerf to the offhand speed too. maybe i should give them another chance, idk.
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>>158021910
Shitter/10

my favs:
>Morion Blade
>black blade
>dragonslayer swordspear
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>>158023052
Fuck, is that so? Did they +10 it?

>>158023008
Chaos has slightly more AR, but most people have more fire resist than dark
Chaos is better for PvE though
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>>158022932
Acid surge isn't even a huge problem. Easy to dodge and a tiny hit by it is easily fixed with repair powder. Also you can counter it with this >>158022985


It is really useful against gankers though(or other kinds of 1v2+ scenarios).
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>>158023136
PLEASE

I'm no memer, I'm just late to the party.

>>158023153
Thank you.

Honestly, since DeS my fav build has been estoc turtle.
Now I barely have time to play video games so I need fast knoladge about the meta game.

k, spears, shield, maybe an Estoc too? What else?
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>your face when youre a RAT SOLDIER
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>>158023263
Hunting for hatemail makes you a memer.
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>>158023263
Longest range spear with a shield, crossbow with explosives, spam bombs

always taunt welcome after killing your enemies
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Wait, so if the Father is Ariandel, what's the name of the painter girl ?
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>>158023324
Rat people don't exist.
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>>158023395
Ariamiss
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>>158023263
2/10 bait
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>>158023351
I fucking bet you're a DaS2 kiddie.
Fuck off if you can't realize that the things that get the most hate mail are usually the best to PvP with, like HavelMom CrystalGreatClub with hornet, or HavelMom flipCB

Go back to your fucking douche honoraburu duels.
Fucking faggot. You can't even realize how much I hate you.
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>Acid Surge; Durability drain increased from 20 over 5 seconds to 300 over 5 seconds.
Oh wow
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>>158023395
She never introduces herself. We can assume she's Ariamis,
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Does /dsg/ want a PC FC?

A way for you to try DLC and patched weapons, if you want
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Turtles are positively FUCKED as this thing has enough HA to poise through longswords and rapiers and deals almost 80 damage through BKS even on a STR build.
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>>158023670
>not riposting
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>>158023670
Does leo ring work with it?
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>>158023772
Yes
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So, Vilhelm's Set uses the IDs that had been for the Burial Knight. I wonder if that means they're likely to retool the Heavy Knight for DLC2.
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>>158023165
Edgelord /10

>Gundyr's Halberd
>Lucatiel's Greatsword
>Lorian's UGS
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AoA Weapon PvP Tier List

>Estus denying Yhorm's Great Machete tanking Bully Tier
Millwood Battle Axe

>Top Tier
Onyx Blade

>High Tier
Earthseeker
Friede's Great Scythe
Valorheart

>Mid Tier
Crow Quills
Quakestone Hammer
Follower Sabre

>Low Tier
Follower Javelin
Rose of Ariandiel

>Shit Tier
Crow Talons
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>>158023590
will be nerfed in few days
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>>158023590
break all the foes equipment before starting a duel ?
new meta ?
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>>158022663
Can someone drop me a Scholar Ring?
Plat is pc, password dsg, place undead settlement bonfire (the one right after the gate with the dog
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>>158023924
yeah nah
speculations are always wrong
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>>158023924
you haven't even used any of these weapons
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVrsNaSZgYo

Glad I bought all those repair powders.
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Where EXACTLY in the Cleansing Chapel is the NPC that takes you to the DLC?

I'm actually impressed at just how vague and unhelpful people are with this.

>It's between the two doors!
>Room has four doors
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>>158024071
>>158024037

I've been using them for 8 hours my man
I could tell you why any of those are where they are, and would've if not for post limit
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>>158023578
Nah, fishing for hatemail is just something that edgy teens do to make them feel better about themselves.

Same reason you have to use some broken meta build. You have no actual skill at the game, you just wanna win matches and stroke your ego. It's nothing to do with "Honor" or stupid shit like that. It's everything to do with your weird superiority complex and pathological need to be "better" than others at a video game.

You are a self obsessed memer using your accomplishments in a video game to supplement your otherwise unfulfilling life. And this is the last I'm gonna say about it because anything more and I'd just be stroking your messed up little self hating boner for you.
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>>158023395
She probably isn't explicitly named.
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>>158023378
is welcome better than point down?

i've been pointing down so long in invasions i almost forgot that welcome even existed.
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>>158023853
Admittedly, it's so different that I wouldn't have guessed any connection if the IDs hadn't been the same though.
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>>158024120
You're a fucking idiot and I'm not surprised.
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>>158024075

Repair powder doesn't work on broken weapons, does it?
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Slave Knight Leggings are really good for gladiator fashion.
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>>158024213

What because when people say "it's in the room lollllllll" that's meant to be useful?

I mean christ dude.
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>>158023670
What, did warpick get a buff or something?
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>>158024140
>caring about how others play the game

You're a deluded idiot.
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>>158024238
Doesn't.

>>158024287
The room is really small. The guy's gonna be right be the altar near the bonfire.
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So why did the feeble cursed one kill pate?
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>>158024205
i think it depends on the person
for example i usually get pissed when i get welcome'd, but when somebody kills me with cheap tactics and points me down i get super upset
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So is poise any different now after the update? Or does it work exactly the same but they just bumped up the numbers?
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>>158024205
Here's a helpful guide friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfQ0qcd25Tk
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R8 my winter fashion. I think its cozy/10
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Has anyone checked how good the new toxic/poison are? Hope at least half as good as acid surge.
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>think the Onyx GS is sexy
>every tryhard and their mum will use it
>same with 2scythe

I just want a weapon that's good that'll make me feel special like a Claymore. I want to fall in love with a weapon again /dsg/
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>>158024345

So he's literally next to the bonfire?

That's a bit more helpful.
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>>158024302
Got HA now i think
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>>158024390
Build up is quadrupled
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So why did xbone get the dlc early?
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>>158024383
The chestpiece looks kinda small on you, but I assume that's just a female char.
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>>158020232
milwood knight helm and millwood kinght leggings have the same number here
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>>158024140
>being this autistic

we share a general with this nerd, ffs...

think about that for a second.
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>>158024404
Stop being a special snowflake and use what you enjoy
Why would you give a shit about what people in a video game thinks about you ?
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>>158024363
They added more poise on armors and things that increase poise like wolf ring got nerfed. Better question is if they changed the timing of hyperarmor frames? It would be pointless if they add poise but make most weapons stagger early frames
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>>158024247
Yeah but use the Lautrec's helmet
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>>158024524
>they changed the timing of hyperarmor frames
Yes they did at least on some weapons.
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>>158024145
Well shit.
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>>158024481
Yeah, its a gril. I'll have to see how the armor looks I'm my bulky male character
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>>158024120
Right side of the altar, dum dum. Room has three doors, not four.
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Hey, so if rose of ariandel has the same HA frames like most hammers and maces now it's really cool as it can directly trade with longswords.
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>fight between a ccs + gargoyle spear and a not-Guts
why do i bother
>>
>laggy
>under 30% roll
>gotthards

This has to be the biggest pile of aids in the entire game.
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>>158024673
It doesn't. On the plus side, it's a whip so it might be unparryable.
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>>158024510
>wastes hundreds of hours of their lives just to annoy people playing a video game
>Calls other people nerds
>"ffs"
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>>158021369
>dont have an xbox
>watch peeve stream

he is so fucking retarded he can't even connect 2 dots how the fuck is he allowed to play videogames?

"i don't know if there is a second boss i am done with the dlc i dont see anywhere where i could go i am a retard hurrdurr"

fucking piece of shit i would fucking murder him this instant if i had the money to fly to shitty america or wherever he lives and knew where he lives

fucking piece of shit doesn't deserve to live
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>>158024618
>armorclad waifu
A rare sight, very commedable, anon. This world needs more people like you instead of faggots showing off their aberrant attempts at making a qtpa2t;3 face in Souls char generator.
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>>158024404
Pretty much everyone will be an edgy dark knight using the onyx blade.
>>
>Barely even reach 600ar with quakestone
Fucking end me here and now

>>158024618

That helmet is as tiny as the EK one. Looks absolutely stupid because of it.
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>>158024120
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>>158024797
there is nothing in this game that triggers me more than lagging players

if your connection is so shit go ruin another game
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>>158023578
But DS 3 has better duels than 3

Not to mention 2 has the best streamsniping (of the 3)
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>>158024814
At least he's probably not as edgy as you.
>>
How are int build in the game?
I wanted to make something like a hobo sorcerer, but apparently magic isnt really viable. I thought about using the moonlight sword and Heysel pick. What about the rings?
And what is a good starting class for a mage? I heard that in the end, taking knight have a better stats distribution in the end
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>>158024487
Whoops. Should be:
039B33D8 Millwood Knight Leggings
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>>158024584
I know they gave ha to scythe wa and maces but did they change the ha for ugs?
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>>158024951
see >>158019951
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>>158024895
stats?

2handed 60str greatclub is only 620
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>>158023853
>people thought this set was going to be a clean version of FK
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>>158024814
Yes he's really dumb. I stopped watching him really fast.
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>>158024247
>Beef jerky
Show me some smooth glutes anon
>>
>wear full havels with wolf ring
>still get staggered out of drang hammer attacks

YOU HAD ONE JOB FROM, ONE JOB
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>>158024951
It even works better than dark souls 1 poise because now you actually have to swing your great club.
>>
>want to create a new char for a new build
>realize I have to play through the game three fucking times again to get all the neccesary rings
why the fuck is this allowed
>>
>>158024898
So if you kill him, you can't access the DLC ?
>>
as someone who lost all interest due to the prevalence of boring passive play against other people is this worth picking back up especially with the arena being a thing?
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>>158025045
Drangs combo super fast r1s into WA now, amazing invasion tools
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>>158025006
The helmet still looks the same as fallen knight though so they're obviously related.
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>>158024814
You should have been here a few hours ago. Some dude was sucking Peeve's dick raw completely unironically claiming he invented player run covenants and that he's contributed so much to the Souls community and all this other whew lad tier shit.
>>
>>158025005

50 Str and I'm at 582, I imagine reasing it to 66 brings me over 600 but not much.
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>>158024383
Northern gloves might be better
>>
Who's your favorite character in the series, /dsg/?
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>>158024913
Magic is fine, it's just not broken like refined builds. Use flashsword for melee, darts for perfectly safe ranged spam, soulmass to keep people on their toes, etc. Have 60int for spell damage, base str/dex for your weapon, 30att for spells, 40vig minimum, everything else into endurance. Equip sage ring, bellowing dragoncrest, young dragon ring, and whatever in the last slot. Immolation Tinder is a fun and good weapon, too.
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>millwood greataxe
Will STR fags finally shut their mouth after they got such a killer weapon?
It's virtually impossible to estus against it.
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>>158025045
Hammers are basically poise breakers though. Mace = anti-armor.
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>>158025005
For some reason From gave G.Axes and UGS AR out the ass but failed to give ghammers the 700+ AR they deserved.

It's like they think strike is a good damage type or something.
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>>158024895
It could stand to be a bit bigger.
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>>158025045

They have very little HA.
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>>158025045
drang hammers don't have HA
only 2h hammers do
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i haven't been able to play any today

is poise really fixed? is heavy armor now viable?
what weapons have been changed by a lot?
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Is the havel set the only one you can do poise shit with? Or would something like exile armor work too? Or lothric knight which is even supposed to have a poise boost? is the wolf ring a necessity?

what weapons can actually get hyper armor now (or otherwise attack and not be staggered)?
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>>158024898
CAN YOU SEE HIT BUTT?
IS THAT A NEW GGESTURE?
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>>158024913
Magic is okay.
It's less about "hope your opponent doesn't manage to roll through your 1hitOHKO spell" and more about applying additional pressure and extra range. Best used with some weapon, and INT-focused stuff has some to offer. The DLC introduced a rather interesting dual DEX/INT scythe, for example. The KKK stake mentioned by anon above is pretty great too.
>moonlight sword
I'm pretty sure Papa Sully cucked MLGSfags and GSoJ is actually better now, but I could be wrong.
>Heysel pick
I'd personally use the Cleric Candlestick instead, even if it's not optimal as well.
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>>158025130

Magician of Pot.
>>
What's a good mid to late game boss to aim at for a coop build that an Iron Tarkus build would do well against natively? DS3
>>
>>158025234

The point is that the main thing keeping drang hammers from being top tier is the lack of HA. If you couldn't get poked out of your attacks and could instead trade with people it'd be a monster. I was really hoping I could do that.
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>>158025234

The WA has HA.
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What did they mean by this ?
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>>158025315
STRAID?
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>>158025242
Nope, they just made hyper armor work on more weapons
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>>158025287
your gay
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>>158025407
It means you should not be underleveled.
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>>158025371
It's a decent weapon and HA buff would be a tightrope act on balance. If you can mash people without a care in the world not including WA it could easily be BKG lite
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>>158025407
Secret area below lothric castle where you fight Kaathe in the abyss
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>>158025421
It's the reference name for Laurentius in the files.
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>>158025016
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
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>Carthus' swordsmen attached great value to victory, and would not shun the use of such pyromancies. For where is the honor in death and scoured bones?
confirmed tryhard metafaggots
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>>158025407
You're supposed to kill the Gaping Dragon first.
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>>158025421
>>
Should I go to sl135 so I can level vit do I don't look like trash
>>
>no way to farm titanite slabs
why
>>
So this DLC absolute dogshit compared to The Old Hunters, right?
>>
>>158025132
What about the starting class? Sorceror?
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>>158020715
gravetend? what?
>>
I'm after these rings. I have all weapons and can trade or you can backup your save drop me the rings and revert and we both keep everything. Also willing to transport items across characters for you.
>Covetous Gold Serpent +2
>Covetous Silver Serpent +2
>Lingering Dragoncrest +2
>Sage +2
>Wolf +2
I'm on PC obviously. I'm hoping the wolf ring actually has a purpose now, maybe an offhand lothric knight longspear (even though it has no HA itself) would be helpful or Yhorm's shield since it adds 45 more poise.

>>158025045
Drang hammers have no HA for some fucking reason. I think their R1 does have HA though so R1 into WA works well.
>>
>>158025619
go to the next ng+ ??? dumbo
>>
>>158025547
That's not the gesture we're all looking for though. >>158024898 had better be a thing
>>
>>158025619
What? Just farm NG+ses
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It's so fat. Reminds me of Benhart just a bit.
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>>158025547
if you like this its havel helm, undead legion arms, master attire and slave knight leggings. Usually big bulky characters do weird shit to gauntlets, but it looks good here.
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>>158025652
I wouldn't say dogshit, but it's certainly no TOH.
>>
>>158025619
>not just using CE
LMAOING AT YOUR LIFE SENPAI
>>
>>158025619
there are about 30 slabs in the DLC so I wouldn't worry.
>>
Anybody have a picture of the Follower Sabre ?
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>>158025547
Noice.
What about alva and lautrec helm ?
Would they fit the gladiator theme?
>>
>>158025692
If you want I'll just CE them in for you. Want to come place your red sign at Highwall or something? pass can be poise.

If you want 'em that way, give me a few seconds after dropping an item to turn it into the thing you want, wait until I walk away from it.
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>>158025784
is it heavy?
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>>158025730
Be satisfied with this.
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>>158025953
>>
Is the valorheart moveset as shit as it looks in pvp?
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>>158026003
Sure, I'll drop my red soap sign in case your boss is dead.

Any idea what the new softban flags are?
>>
>>158025658
... Yes, anon. Your sorcerer should start as a sorcerer.

Also, look into crystal sage rapier.
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>>158026080
Stats? WA?
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>>158025784
What moveset? Is it like bkga?
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>>158025969
Alva is really tiny, I dont think it looks good at all.
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>>158026097
It literally has block frames on r1's. I am not even joking. I tested it with neptune and some other guys.
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>>158026120
No clue, don't really give a shit, will find out if I ever do get banned I guess. I've only done itemswaps / set bosses to dead / set bonfires to active so far.
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>>158026179

Oh shit nice
Gonna try it later today
>tfw will have used every weapon to death before the DLC even hits
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anyone else having problems downloading the patch on PS4?
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>heal on a shitlord
>win
>this
lmao xD
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>>158024907
Although I disagree with you about that, that was not the point. I don't care what game people enjoy the most.
I like playing meta vs other players playing meta, makes fights more exciting for me. I don't care for hate mail at all.
The truth is that if I'm PvP'ing with other meta players and get invaded by a fucking kid, you bet your ass I'll beat him any way I can. I don't care. And usually it's these idiots that send the best hate mail. How many times did I receive hatemail simply because I was using hornet and bs'ed someone?

The point is that I'm fucking tired of having soulbrand brainwashed kids that got insanely multiplied after DaS2 and think they have a right in how to tell other people to play the game the way they like.
God forbid if you pick a weapon/armor/spell/tactic that goes against their imaginary honor code. Worst part is how they feel superior because they play a game a certain way. Fucking faggots.
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>that feeling of opponent's desperation when you just break his weapon
bueno
shame it's one-trick pony, in a week everyone and their mothers will dodge it, no nerf needed
godly as area denial against multiple opponents tho
>>
>Scott beating the boss first try
Yeah, I'm prob not taking in a SL120 char.
>>
What was the go to physical starting class again? Knight or Warrior?
>>
>>158026357
By any chance is he using the CCS and mashing R1?
>>
>>158026312
I'm glad that hatemail didn't completely die with the abandonment of GFWL
>>
>>158026301
I was, yeah. Just try again a few times until it finally gets it, PSN is under heavy load for obvious reasons right now.
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>>158025119
Protectors of Priscilla started player run covenants
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>>158026434
And Yhorm's :^)
>>
So DEX faggots are the only ones allowed to have fashion any more?
>>
>>158026416
Always Warrior. Always.
>>158026257
It could actually be viable if you go full passive mode and abuse it's block frames, i will try it out more in the future. I will probably bring it to FC and show my block frame abuse skills. Also, followers sabre is going to be the new CCS
>>
>>158026479
He is really afraid of losing to mobs too it seems.
>>
Level 150 for NG+ any good?
>>
>>158026473
Nope, fextralife started player-made covenants way back when DaS1 first came out.
>>
>>158025591
don't forget to summon milfred
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>>158026512
>Always Warrior. Always.
What for though? You're exchanging a bunch of attunement and vitality for luck. What makes Warrior better?
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>>158026541
I'm on NG+5 and my character is SL99.

Apply yourself.
>>
This poise buff was a mistake. Invasions are basically impossible now. You can no longer stun someone as a single player, but their 3 hyper armor buddies sure can stun you.
>>
>>158026120
Have fun anon, good luck with messing around with poise or whatever you want to test.
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>>158026618
Attunement and vitality are both worthless stats, while Luck gives you slightly increased bleed buildup on your CCS.
Warrior is obviously superior.
>>
>>158026618
Warrior is better for investing purely in Vigor, Endurance, Strength, and Dexterity. FP isn't terribly useful since weapon arts aren't terribly useful, and the knight's Vitality isn't useful since Vitality isn't useful.
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>>158026623
I am talking about dlc.
>>
>>158026003
>>158026215
>>158026649
Thanks m8
>>
>>158026618
It has more points in VIG, END and str. You end up at a lower soul level when going 40/40/40/40 quality.
>>
So how long is the DLC? Is it a disaster?
>>
>>158026717
>>158026718
The poise patch makes VIT pretty useful, anons.
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>>158026340
>shame it's one-trick pony, in a week everyone and their mothers will dodge it, no nerf needed
>implying
Imagine:
>you're a purp
>your madman ass invades in Pope's Rodeo
>it's a 3vs2 scenario with two aldrichfucks and 2 sunfags
>you just barf yellow mist on all of them again and again
>everyone hates you
>>
>>158026718
>>158026717
>vitality and FP aren't useful
They are now.
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>>158026312
>carthus cancer sword faggots
I really hope that's a false accusation
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>>158026764
>>158026787
CCS doesn't have hyper armor or a useful WA though?
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>>158026718
both vitality and FP are very useful thanks to DLC
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>>158026541

a buck fitty is more than enough. I'm currently 165 on NG++++ on my OP character.
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>>158026312

>that last one

You aren't withholding any information from us, are you anon?
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>>158026861
Explain
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WHO THE FUCK IS AT THE CATACOMBS SPAMMING THE DAMN WEAPON-BREAKING BREATH?
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>>158025407

Don't do the DLC until you can kill dragonrider unless you are just wildly running to pick up weapons Bloodborne style
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Is 110sl quality 28 vigor NG+ good for DLC ?
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>>158026764
Not really. Poise was still useful before the patch, it's just that now you need to invest in Vit even less to get the same amount of poise. So it's actually less useful than before.
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>>158026479
>tryharding on a blind PvE run
holy fucking shit how pathetic can one be
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>>158026974
>SL110
>28 VIG
Do you have some kind of cerebral difficulty?
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>>158026974
No. 28 vigor is a meme
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>>158026994
How come? WHat is the ideal poise now?
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>>158026994
What? Base poise and the Wolf Ring have been seriously nerfed while the poise gains from heavy armour have been buffed. That means VIT is actually useful.
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>>158026541

No, you should never level past 120 under any circumstance.
>>
Anyone interested in a PC FC?
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>Follower Sabre
>Javelin
>Crow Quills
>Friede's Scythe

Welp. I know I'm taking my 40/40 dex/int character first.
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>>158026974
if you're gonna Pve, even SL1 is viable
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>>158027063
No, it just means you have to invest more stats to get the same returns as before, meaning heavy weapons are even less useful.
From doesn't want you to use anything but Straight Swords and Curved Swords.
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Does the saber have generic CS moveset or is it actually interesting?
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>>158026312
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>>158027150
I said VIT was more useful. That is despite the fact that, yes, it's a terrible change.
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>>158027078

Where the fuck are my dex/fai weapons, From.

WHERE ARE THEY
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>>158027020
>not using whatever you want for pve
who gives a cr*p
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>>158019858
Any way to cheat into the dlc yet?
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>>158026805
>>158026942
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>>158027195
Vit isn't useful because none of the weapons it helps are useful.
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>>158027075
After that shit with the Discord namefags from yesterday, nah.
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>>158027310
VIT is useful because it makes heavy weapons useful again.
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So wait, the poise change was actually a nerf for ultra weapons?
What the fuck? Why?
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>>158027307

I'm giving you one last chance to reveal the facts, anon.
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>>158027307
So that would be a yes
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>>158027310
>greatswords aren't useful
>greataxes aren't useful
>curved greatswords aren't useful
oh ok
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>>158027275
It seems they were smart enough not to include the actual areas or NPC models in this patch.
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>>158027203
It's kind of an unorthodox combo.
Sorc characters in the series usually start with higher dex than str, and Cleric/Paladin characters usually start with more str than dex. It's less of an argument, but sorceries also have stuff that "compliments" your usual stereotypes about dex builds, like being sneaky with hush/spook and chameleon, while miracles are more focused on "tanking" with stuff like GMB/SO which is usually associated with strong characters.
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>>158027413
No. It means that heavy weapons users basically have to invest in VIT and wear heavy armour, too. That said, the poise windows have been extended.
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>>158027413
Wait what the fuck did I miss something
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>>158027310

>he hasn't heard about the new poise-stacking Hammer meta, slayer of straight- and curved swords
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>>158027413
It wasn't. You just actually need poise now, but if you do have poise it's more effective than it was before.
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>>158027075
later, I need to write a bit more on my dissertation
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>>158027479
I have my Havel build so it's all good
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>>158027307
>ccs babbies post on /dsg
fuck this place
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>>158027479
>>158027541
How the hell do you get all the points for that?
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>>158019858
i got a fever and the only prescription is more nito
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>>158027649
Dumping stats into VIT and wearing heavy armour. The poise gains from armour have been buffed.
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Is dragon tooth good at 66 Str?
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>>158027715
Okay, so how do you cap STR, VIG, and END at 120 while still getting a decent amount of VIT?
>>
Has anyone used the way of white corona in pvp yet? Is it any good? I was pretty hype when I first saw it.
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>>158027756
If your opponent has a stroke and drops the controller you would be able to do a lot of damage to them
>>
Dark Souls as a series is getting stale, it's 2016 they need to embrace new ideas like:
-New weapon types like murkrets or a medievil bazooka and you can take cover for things that are shoot back at you
-Parts where you have to run away from a huge enemy and the huge boss chases you to a turrent and you use it to kill him
-Other parts where you can use turrents on loads of people or even a catapult
-You can see how many kills and deaths you have in pvp and the more kills you get unlock extra abilities for you and new skins for your weapons and armour
-Free running and climbing up on sthings
-You have a npc partner and he is an ethnic and he makes jokes and he gives you estius flasks and stuff when your in trouble
-If you get backstabbed or parryed you can press a button at the right moment and you do a counter
-Bosses arent just running around hitting them you can get to like press buttons at the right time and it does damage
-Vehicle sections like on a horse and cart or a boat or like a stone age motorbike and gliders
-When someone invades it asks you if it's ok and if you press no then they are sent away
-You can go into peoples houses and talk to them
-If you get hit then dont get hit for a while your health comes back
-You can have a romance with someone and even it can be a man if you are a gay
-Better support like map packs for arena and new weapons and amrour or better versions of weapons and armour in the game
-Moderators chosen from popular members of the community, they will monitor for poor sportsmanship and ban those they feel are a negative influence on the community & metagame
-Some people need you to get things so you can go get them and bring them back and they give you souls or items
-You can get a pet and they go around and find items for you and secrets so you dont have to search around so much
-you can do a crafting if you gather enough materials or you can buy the materials for money
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>>158027805
No idea.
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>>158027579
would 2v2 with

>>158027756
hit the requirements and invest the rest in vit and vig
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>>158027649
You can wear slightly heavier armor and also use wolf ring, dummy. You don't need that much more vit to be effective. Don't need like 40 vit or anything.
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>>158027805
It's pretty easy if you don't go for 66 STR, fuck.
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>>158027676
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>>158027805
You don't because using heavy weapons in PvP is a fucking stupid idea.
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>>158027150
Straight swords and curved swords don't have poise, anon.
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is the storm curved sword any good?
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>>158027923
They don't need it.
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>>158027268
Why did you censor crap? No one gives a shit if you say fuck or whatever.
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>>158027805
at 120 I gave myself 20 vit while still going 66 str and putting 40 in vig and end. I dont know how good 20 vit is though.
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>>158027939
It's a slightly worse CCS specifically for faglords who want to use cancer weapons but claim they're totally ok because it's not the MOST cancer weapon
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>>158026340
>>158026947

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT,

Acid cloud actually works???????
>>
>DLC releasing on a Tuesday, not Friday
Figures the lazy nips who copy pasted all the DS1 and BB assets don't understand what work or school is.
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>>158028112
see >>158023590
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>>158028065
what's wrong with the carthus curved sword though

i've heard this meme but never used so i don't know
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>>158027923
That's literally the point of his post, are you daft
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>>158027676
>>158027915
We will never see something as cool as Gravelords ever again.
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>>158028112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv9z0s-f2FM
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Would any anon be so kind as to drop me a Wolf Ring +2 to help with my havel poise experiments? I'd really appreciate it.

I'll be at high wall of lothric, pass dsg
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>>158027465
The dex/int and str/fth archetypes go all the way back to Demon's Souls, where the Faith-scaling upgrade was exclusive to Strength based weapons and the Magic-scaling upgrade was exclusive to Dexterity based weapons. Miyazaki likes his nimble mages and sturdy clerics, I guess.
>>
I used CE for all the DLC weapons and I'm honestly still just as bored with the game

I mean I like the Scythe, but I don't really know to make it work? Can anyone tell me the stats I should put in at SL 100? I can go higher if need be
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>>158028151
>DLC patch on friday
>contains all DLC content
>can't play the DLC this weekend yet
dumb fucking gooks 2 nukes weren't enough
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>>158028112
>>
>that sweet scythe combo

This has some serious weaponfu potential.
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>>158028252
Sure
Got any of these things?
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>>158027817
Jesus, anon. That's some intense bait.
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>>158028213
>8
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>>158028252
Starting up my Dreamcast.
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>>158028439
It's called a "joke"
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Is Attunement still useless?
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>>158028151
Such is the magic of being a japanese NEET.
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>>158028141
Maybe you should just go.
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>>158028383
>acid burp invasions
>in irithyll dungeon
8/10, Sulyvahn would be amused.
I'd use the branding iron/millaxe for extrabullying.
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>>158028406

Yeah I'll trade you my dragonslayer GS, never used it anyways.

>>158028482

PC, sorry.
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>>158028587
I'm sorry. please don't report me okay.
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>>158027676
>DS2
Nito gets singing milfs and a sweet ultra greatsword
>DS3
Nito gets nothing

Last DLC needs to be a "All the items and armor sets we should've copy pasted from DS1/DS2" patch.
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So how good is ValorHeart, i am really digging that sword and board combo.
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>>158028151
>xbox gets it early
>streamers get it early

Fuck this bullshit.
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>>158028161
Longest range and highest damage off of any curved sword on top of having bleed. Basically making it the most broken weapon in an already good weapon class, literally no reason to use anything else
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>>158028628
It's ok, I'll give it back. Just drop it for me first then I'll backup my save and give you the ring
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>>158028628
Don't see your sign, could you drop a red one if you dropped a white one before?
>>158028406
Do you need those on PC as well?
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>300 durability damage over 5 seconds
>CCS has 80 durability
That's a mere 1 1/3 seconds to break a cancer stick. Fucking righteous.
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>>158028213
it won't matter once people realize it actually does something, but at least we will be able to break our armor for extra fashion without following the 1 minute guide
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Is there a reason to go for sl100 instead of sl120 in pvp? By the looks of it even if I go sl100 I'll still be getting sl120 kids, and I get a feeling you'd be able to get more out of those 20 level than, lets say, a 140 would if I went 120.
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>CCS outranges ultragreatswords
Oh
I guess that's why everyone uses it
Thanks, Memeazaki
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So, are Str/faith build still not viable?
I really want to throw lighting and smash people with an axe or a hammer
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>>158028740
>instead of nerfing curved swords and katanas, fromsoft lets you just break them yourself
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>>158028774
Really? If you're fighting a shitter, just parry them. Instead of riposting, cast Acid Surge. You'll break all their shit and they'll be easy to kill. Instead of going right back to shitting up Pontiff's, they'll have to go repair their gear.
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>>158026760
About as long as one of DaS2's DLCs
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>>158028810
viable

at 150
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Do you think the change to poise could make Wolnir's WA not shit for pvp? Maybe with enough vit you could bait someone to try to hit you out of it.
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>>158028810
Str/faith was actually nerfed.
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what are the sliders to make a thicc waifu?
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>>158020053
enb didn't even make it to the DLC you false flag vaati shill
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>>158028946
How?
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>>158028961
just wear smough's set
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>>158028905
Really truly? Like as long as a blind playthrough? Or as long as a pro-skills "this is my ninth time here" playthrough
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>>158028946
What?
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Do we know how level brackets in the arena are going to be?
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>>158028921
No.
Here's what happens
You start the animation, someone sees it starting and rolls back once
>once the explosion goes off they take a step forward and punish you
They have enough time to attack into the startup and roll out safely, so it's not even useful for HA baiting or trades.

The speed up didn't make it better in pvp at all. Think of it as a pve-focused change.
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>>158029028
no
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>>158028810
Rose of Ariandel is a 40FAI catalyst that only loses like 20 spell buff compared to 60FAI talismans.
This leaves enough points to get 40STR, 44VIG, attunement and other shit at SL120 and feel yourself comfortable.
DLC also adds a few VERY strong pure STR weapons like millwood axe which is insane.
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Wasnt the CCS nerfed? It still has 463 ar here
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>>158028738
Minus the DSGS now, yes

>>158028628
Thx 4 the shield
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>>158028906
>>158028946
Fuck I don't have the drive to reach a level this high, even more if it was nerfed
How can I have fun with a new build?
I already have a 40/4 build where I use hollowslayer and sellsword, a strenght build with Gundyr, and a pyro build
I really don't like magic and I don't know what to do to wait for the dlc
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>>158029158
But Rose of Ariandel doesn't have the miracle HA art, so it's shit.
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>>158029223
Good thing they added a spammable miracle which is very good without HA.
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>>158029185
Of course not
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>>158028717

Thanks weyland, you will be missed.
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>my Smough's GH cosplay build is even worse now and I can't use the Wolf Ring to fix it
Th-thanks...
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>>158028628
>>158028406
Why don't you guys just dupe
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>>158029326

We did, see: >>158028717

Backup saves, my man.

Drang hammers are still probably not gonna be helped by poise but I'm at least gonna try goddammit.
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>>158029274
You mean that fucking frisbee that isn't going to hit anyone?
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>>158028776
The game was designed around sl 80 meta for end game
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>>158029447
It's going to hit a shitton of people during invasions and it's the only thing that matters.
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>>158029454
Endgame is still piss easy at SL60
It's not designed around anything, and he wasn't asking about PVE, dipshit
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>>158029158
>This leaves enough points to get 40STR, 44VIG, attunement and other shit at SL120 and feel yourself comfortable.
With base vit, dex and attunement. Good luck equipping or casting anything.
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>>158029530
The weapons and armor are balanced around sl 80. Those same weapons and armor that you use in pvp? They are balanced around sl 80 meta
>>
Did they do anything to my weaponfu? Does it still have less AR than a Longsword?
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>>158028776
You don't go SL100.
You go SL99.
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>>158029630
SL80 meta has literally one build
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>axes maces clubs all have HA now

HOLY. FUCKING. SHIT.
>>
So does anyone know what this secret is people were mentioning in the DLC? Is it a third boss?
>>
>CCS nerfed not enough
Just remove this piece of shit from game
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>>158029683
>lose a level
>still match with 120s
What a great plan
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>>158029727
Priscilla's corpse.
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>>158029683
Why?
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>Scott using CCS 2.0
>>158029630
Wut
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>>158029816
SL 99 doesn't match with 120, that is, if you're a duelfag cancer. If you only want invasions and want to avoid 120, go 90
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>Sabre has 450 AR on Refined 40/40
FRROOOOOOMMMM
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>>158029762
I haven't played DaS3 since launch, why is CCS being complained about so much now? Back when I played it was considered to be on the same level as weapons like Darksword, Estoc, and Washing Pole.
>>
>>158029875
But that's wrong and you should feel wrong, idiot
>>
So does the poise patch "just werk", is poise good now?
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>>158029892
All those weapons were nerfed.
>>
>>158029030
>This Sythe Slut boss

Holy fuck im getting destroyed by this. Her fucking attacks have some fucking bullshit lock on attached to them.
>>
wait so which builds are good now
still just qualimeme?
>>
should I start playing dark souls 3 again
I beat the area with the huge giant hombres that punch the walkways then got bored
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>>158029875
What would be the best range for as much variety in invasions as possible? 60 with a +6 weapon?
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>800+ damage
>it's even more bullshit than the carthus

im out
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>>158025212
helmet is kinda small. how's it look with drakeblood?
>>
>>158029949
What? How are you playing?
>>
>>158029938
The effect of the poise patch is to make heavy weapons useless without heavy armour.
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>>158029998
your gay
>>
>>158030067
What the fuck? Heavy weapons were already trash tier.
>>
>acid surge is shit
>buff it so it's actually useful
>nerf it next patch because casuals WILL complain
DID
U
RIKE
IT
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>>158029937
Why is he wrong?
>>
>>158029864
I have no idea what you are trying to say.

>>158029689
You could say that about any SL since quality has been the clear favorite but we still don't know exactly how much was changed with recent patch yet and what affect it will have on the meta.


I'm pretty sure there are a few smart people in these threads who could make SL 80 versions of various builds.
>>
DLC entrance is the first time you visit Cathedral? Or do you have to beat the game?
>>
Just went through and checked, and at least for the weapons I recorded, there is no AR (base or scaling) or stat requirement change between pre and post-patch.

Of note:
Vordt's and the Spiked Mace both reserved buffs to their status buildup, but that's it.
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>>158030113
It does make the maximum effectiveness of heavy weapons better, but you need to sacrifice fashion and many soul levels into VIT to get there.
>>
>>158030143
What do you mean "why", that is literally just not correct
97 is max to not match 120
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>>158030060
Xbone mate.

Also didn't mean to reply to you.
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>>158030067
Does it make heavy armor viable?
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>>158029937
It isn't. Dropping a sign and tagging a sign are completly different things.
Your sign is "sent" upwards to SL 122 at worse, however, the lower sign that can reach you are 118.
If you want to duelfag, avoid SL 120 and be the highest possible, you go 99 and only tag red signs.

>>158030026
That depends on what you want, I find 50-70 with +6-8 is ideal, this allows you to invade from central Irithyll all the way to archives.
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>>158030224
That will depend on the actual impact of poise.
Putting on the trashcan chestpiece gave me 10 more poise than alvas, so there's a big difference now.
>>
Should I use moonlight or Judgment greatsword for an int build?
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>>158030224
Only for heavy weapons, for which it is also all but necessary.
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>see pics of the sabre
>it's beautiful
>the only good looking curved sword besides the scimitar
>fun moveset
>want to use it now
>actually seems shorter than CCS
>hopefully not as metacancer
>it's even better
>>
>>158025342
Please any suggestions? I am terrible with stats.
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>>158030297
>>158030224
Armor doesn't need to be that heavy. 20 poise is decent.
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>>158030301
>people complain about the CCS
>make a better one that can do 800~ damage via a weapon art

did u rike it?
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>>158030339
DSA
Don't do it, half the hosts kill themselves
>>
>>158030218
100+(100*0.1)+10 = 120
99+(90*0.1)+10 = 118
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>>158029185
The notes never mentioned CCS or any CS at all.
>>158029301
How come?
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>>158029672
Nope, it's still shit.
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>>158029885
Where are the stats of this weapon ?
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>>158030368
Most UGS need 30+ poise to be able to HA through more than one hit now.
It's a straight nerf.
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>>158030168
Visit Cathedral. I did it on a new build without any other requirements.

You walk into the Cleansing chapel and start it from there.
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>>158030282
MLGS

>>158030458
Jund is streaming. It gets 450 AR on Refined 40/40
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>>158030438
Base poise has been nerfed to shit and the cosplay pre-patch only gave me 1-2 poise anyways. I was already having enough trouble winning HA trades.
>>
>>158030542
Hey guys, I found out about the sabre first, it's okay for me to use it
>>
Worth noting that it appears the recovery on UGS and greathammers has been reduced slightly.
This also means that the vertical UGS combos into its second attack more quickly. It will probably work a little more consistently now.
>>
>>158030542
Does it have a unique moveset or the same bland one as other curved swords ?
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>>158030516
And you're basing this on: nothing

Thank you, doomsayer, for your ignorant insight.
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>>158030602
WA is different. It has a guard break that combos into a R2 for a smash attack. Did 800+ damage on his stream
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>>158030690
Can you parry that?
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>>158030218
>>158030403
Please be merciful I picked up the game last weekend and I just want to figure at what point I should stop leveling to avoid the townshit zone.
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>>158030601
FUGS still doesn't combo
rolled out of it 5 minutes ago
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>>158030393
Any other suggestions then, friend? I just want to make 1-2 coop builds just for specific bosses and get good at the bosses and make the build match the boss (an easy boss with lots of trickle damage a healer maybe?)
>>
>>158020173
Someone asked him on stream yesterday and he outright said that he is tired of YouTube fags (he didn't say fags). He makes much more money on Twitch and it's more relaxing for him.
>>
>>158029293

So I've got some good news and some bad news.

The bad news is, even with full havels and wolf ring +2 on, you apparently still get staggered out of any attack with drang hammers.

The good news though is that the attack speed of the R1 and it's reach have been greatly improved, to where I believe you can actually reasonably outspace people and catch them with the R1 L2 R2 combo. You take a big ass step forward like with SS's which I'm pretty sure you didn't do before, seems like you actually cover a good amount of ground with the swing and it's definitely faster too.

My testing was done with the drakeblood knight at a mausoleum btw. Gonna have to test it in invasions but even without the HA I think it might be viable now if used properly. Gonna use heavy armor with it anyways so meh, we'll see.
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>mfw second phase of DLC fight
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>>158030753
doubt it
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>>158030690
>WA is different. It has a guard break that combos into a R2 for a smash attack. Did 800+ damage on his stream

It's completely retarded. It's just a better Carthus, if that thing could be even possible. The WA has such a long range and deals high damage, and the sword still retains the usual Carthus advantages of being stupidly long, low recovery, and high AR. I can't believe From is so stupid. What is going on in their minds, Anon?
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>>158030779
FUGS has always had combo? Not if you hit someone while they're in hyper armor.
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>>158030892
>second
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So the consensus is the DLC is very good, but nothing at all different then the base game, unlike the amazing Crown Trilogy and Artorias compared to the base game of 1, and 2?
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>>158029630
It's PvE shut up nerd
Miyazaki doesn't give two hecks about PvP balance, he has his slaves to do that for him. All he's said is he doesn't know why people play so low, in regards to 120
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>>158030934
>>158030372
this anon got it
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>new CCS has better speed, range, damage
>S tier WA
>guardbrake
>450AR
Just
What
the
fuck
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>>158030884
>you apparently still get staggered out of any attack with drang hammers.
>tested against drakeblood
Maybe because he was using a greatsword, dummy.
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>>158030734
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>>158030973
Did you just imply that the base game was "very good"
Gonna need a shipment of meme arrows, stat
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>>158030973
AotA is on the same level as the base game. DaS2's DLC only seems amazing because the base game is so bad.
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>>158030971
Pls no

Also fuck this chicks auto tracking critical hit thing where she lifts you in the air with her Sythe. That shit is bullshit.
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>>158030973
>So the consensus is the DLC is very good, but nothing at all different then the base game, unlike the amazing Crown Trilogy and Artorias compared to the base game of 1, and 2?

It's better than Sunken King and Ivory King.

The thing is that the base game is already good enough that there isn't that much of a jump in quality and people love being contrarian about the current souls game so they will tell you it's worse.
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>>158031041
>Miyazaki doesn't give two hecks about PvP balance
Actually he is, according to ToH interview.
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>>158030860
That's bullshit. I've watched him since the beginning, put up with the cringe bullshit, and enjoyed more his fucking NON souls playthroughs and challenges than souls for the past few years since he's just half assing it and his "Career youtube" shit sucks balls. I just want classic "chilling and talking" markus back and fuck "I NEED TO WALK YOU HAND IN HAND THROUGH THE GAME" markus.

Once you got to twitch you sell your souls for shoutouts and bullshit though.

>>158030973
Well 2 sucked awful dicks, so the crown trilogy was just us paying through the nose to get the game fixed.

1's was incomparable.

I'm still stuck on Old Hunter's for value though.

>>158031114
pic
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What is the best stats to use along with int? Dex or Strenght? Both?
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>>158030765
Use this site, it has the formulas.

https://mpql.net/tools/dark-souls-3/

There are equal amounts of cancer at both 80 and 120. The townshit zone is active from levels 50-150, that's just how popular it is.
If you avoid that zone though, you should get decent PvP anywhere, what sorts do you prefer? If you want to be a caster, you'll need to be of a high SL.

>>158030841
For a Tarkus? Any boss that benefits from aggro drawing. Pontiff would be great for a turkus as a mid game boss. Champ for a late game one.
For a cleric, you could help against Aldrich and cast vow os silence, people really like that
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>>158031080

Nah, just dueled someone with DMB twindaggers and still got staggered, feels bad.
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>>158031290
Thank you!

Anyone know a good level goal for coop summon for Pontiff and Aldrich?
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>Sabre release patch nerf
MAKE IT HAPPEN
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How well would the rose of ariandel + wolnir's work out?
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>>158031351
I tested the normal mace and got HA. Got HA on club and axes too. Tested on some hollows, don't remember if I did it two handed only. That might be why.
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Is there a video of the waifu boss fight on youtube yet

Does she have a cute face
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Any OST's from the DLC yet?
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>>158031404
50-60 would be ideal. You can go slightly higher or lower
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Where's the fucking NPC that I need for the DLC? I warped to the Cleansing Chapel bonfire, but there's noone there.
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>>158031519
She's a bitch
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>>158031615
and?
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>>158031404
I was around 50 my latest run when I killed pontiff, most will likely be just a little higher
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>>158031610
It's not out yet you retard.
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Do you actually need 66 strength on strength builds?
I don't see it being feasible now that they need vitality to have HA
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>>158031717
No it's a meme by over-leveled tryhards.
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PS4 servers down?
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Any sabre webms?
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>>158031771
So 40/40/40/40?
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Was messing around with stats and Onyx GS
First is 40/40/20/20
Second is 40/40/40/40
Third is 40/40/60/60

...I'm just bored
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>>158031069
>better range
No
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>>158031717
I think 66 is a meme but I have a Yhorm's greataxe build with 60, and a lot of VIT. I like it a lot
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Anyone have an untrue dark ring gathering dust on a character that they can spot me?
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>>158031717
I could see taking points from those 66 str and putting them on vit being a good thing now, but the scaling is pretty good after 40.

66 str is because when two handed it becomes 99 str.

>>158031771
Cry more.
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>>158031717
It's meme for 80SL tryhards
Meta is 60SL
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>>158031780
Yeah, PSN itself seems like.
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>>158031879
those six points are probably worth more than your last 10
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I see a lot of people in Scott Jund's twitch page asking for info to get the weapons, spells and armor from the DLC.

Fromsoft and Bamco are watching the servers right now and it seems like a bad idea to give yourself this gear early.

I personally can't wait for the influx of people wondering why they got soft banned.
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>>158031914
Lemme just boot up my Nintendo Switch real quick
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>>158031921
>60SL
What a tryhard, everyone knows the real meta is sl45
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>>158031964
I really hope scott gets banned.
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So it got thrown to the wayside with all the DLC weapon hype

But what's the running attack of the Farron (U)Greatsword now? L1,R1, and R2
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>>158031956
is it because they have better returns or because it makes 99 STR while 2handing?
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>>158031290
Thanks and yeah, I was aiming to play as a caster.
Guess I'm just going to take a load of dicks up my bum, but I'm used to surviving with shit gimmicky builds though.
Might just make 2 separate saves: an sl 97 or is it 99? and sl 120 one. Would that get your ass softbanned in 3?
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>>158031867
>overleveled stats
No one cares.
Post 15/12/40/40 and 40/40/15/15
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>>158031615

but she doesn't wear shoes so its fine
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>>158023590
>>158028160

OH

YESSSSS
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>>158031964
>Fromsoft and Bamco are watching the servers right now and it seems like a bad idea to give yourself this gear early.

That's a leap.
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>>158031964
dude CE on stream
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>>158032109
You mean 14/12/40/40
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>>158032073
both

i just checked on mugen though and you should go from 691 to 707 AR while 2handing if you go from 60->66. not that much of a change, but more of an increase than most 5 or 6 point investments
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>>158031510

Guess FROM just fucked the dual hammers again then, huh?


FROOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM
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>>158028778
The estoc out ranges the dragonslayer spear.
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>>158032081
That depends, do you want duels or invasions?
You want to CE those builds?
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>>158031510
Axes now got HA when 2h ?
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>>158031964
Nice try Jund.

Like anyone cares at Bamco. Memory injection =! Server side hacking.

"Watching the servers" lmao like this is a MMO.
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>>158032312
Try with some more poise.
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>>158032081
nah, save manipulation is allowed, but might as well just make two characters
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Aight. DLC boss now in my favorites list.

Fuck me that was tense as hell.

Tfw beat the boss with 98 hp and no estus left. Haven't had that much genuine fun with a boss fight in forever.

Also Slave Knight is a total bro.
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When the Scott become suddenly popular and "pvp tryhard" sommelier for western people? I never heard about him in DeS/DS/DS2/BB times, And now everyone copy his tryhard shittery and justifying usage of tryhard shit. You probably seen thousand peope who emulate his reactive spins.
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>>158032409
They don't understand how the game works.
They think there is a computer somewhere with a server installation of the game.

I've been arguing with fucking retards for almost ten years now, possibly ten, that souls games are 99% P2P with a set of stun servers that collect people's signs, and disperse them to certain filters which is what determines what signs appear in your game's pools.
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>>158032405
Yes. Just tested it against hollows, don't know if one handed too but don't think so. Might be useful against small weapons.
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>>158031041
Stop lying or show proof.

His recommended meta is sl 80
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>>158032626
That's a very good news if axes really got HA, you should test it with another player tho
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>>158032535
So is the sister the first Dark Souls female to be an actual dom?
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>>158031041
anyone advocating over 120 should be dragged out into the the street and shot, it's a sure sign of a shitter
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>>158032580
what is sommelier?

>>158032691
it will work against daggers, curved swords, maybe not carthus, and straightswords!
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>>158032658
>His recommended meta is sl 80
Try harder, anon. It's recommended level to beating DLC. Next dlc recommended level will be 100SL+
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>>158032580
He got popular in DaS2, so I'm not sure why you wouldn't have heard about him then. I recall people talked about him here in /dsg/ during those times.
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>>158032420

I'm using full havels and wolf ring +2, I literally can't get any more poise, anon.

What would you have me do? I think they didn't fix shit poise-wise with the patch, idk wtf they're talking about. It's fucking nothing.
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>>158032580
He played DaS2 and BB, but there were a lot of other good players in DaS2 (a lot that were better than him, too) and he was just straight trash at BB. DaS3 is the first time he's actually been a top level player.
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>>158031205
That's what happens when you have people on YouTube making hateful and extremely toxic comments about his personal life and family.

On twitch you can create an army of moderators and never have to deal with faggots with no lives and nothing to live for who do nothing but low effort trolling.

Plus you can just upload your twitch vods or highlights to you tube for additional passive income.
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>>158032819
Shame desu. DaS2 really brought the big wave of hyper twitch shitters in.
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>>158032763
Awesome thanks
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>>158032396
>That depends, do you want duels or invasions?
Preferrably both.
I see sl90 builds are able to completely avoid sl120 players, is it worth it if I can squeeze it in, at the cost of like 100 hp??
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>>158032882
Equip the lothric spear and yhorm's shield :^)
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>>158031780
PSN's up. I'm online right now. Guy keeps summoning people to fight the red phantom and they keep getting wiped out.

He sent me a message to "hide and help with the boss" so I'm just lurking while my tarkus sits inside of a box.

Been helping people with Crystal Sage for souls for a few hours.
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>>158032929
Yes, 90 is safe completly and you should be able to make a suboptimal caster
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>>158032726
Yes.

She bullied me violently.
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>>158032109
Here yeh go
First is 15/12/40/40
Second 40/40/15/15
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>>158032929
you don't want to invade at 120, that's the land of metabuild ganksquad shittery. If you want to invade endgame pve, you want to be 80-90. If you want to do specific areas or sets of areas, you'll want to be lower- I really enjoy 30SL because you can twink hard enough to actually beat ganksquads a solid chunk of the time and you get access to a wide swathe of areas for invasions.
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Whats a good location to invade people as Rosaria at SL 92?

Pontiff is garbage.
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>>158032775
No it won't. You aren't the game director you have no say so in that.

I'll wait to hear from Big M on the recommended SL meta for the next dlc.
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>>158033207
Grand Archives
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So what do I do after I kill the DLC boss?

Just roam around aimlessly or what?
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I'm fixing up the SizeMod and wanted to see if I could include any of the DLC weapons. You might remember from earlier posts that some weapons are in two-parts, and that sometimes weapons were manually reversed ingame.

For whatever reason, it turns out the Follower Sabre's blade was reversed, so it was somehow modeled with the blade on backwards.
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Servers seem to be dead on PC at the moment.
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>tfw too poor for dlc
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GAME
BALANCE

BALANCED
GAME
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>>158033049
>>158033097
Thanks a lot, guys, sl90 it is.
I'm gonn do it!
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>>158033316
Nah, i just invaded people at Pontiffs ass

>host has 2 yellows AND a red buddy who helps him out

Some people really are desperate
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>>158032907
So your choices are to expose yourself to people's criticism or create a huge fucking filter bubble?

If that's the game and he chose the bubble I've lost respect for him.Firstly, exposing your personal shit to the public like he did was just treating the public at large as his friends, it only made room for more visceral haters.

I've always been tempted to make a youtube channel for discussing games outside of a strictly gaming realm (how they affect your life, etc) and wondered if these people are just pansies or if it really rends your soul to have people shitpost on YT.
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>>158032312
I dunno, it makes sense. You aren't actually twohanding the dual weapons. They don't get a 2hand bonus either.
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>>158033306
oh shit that sabre looks cool as fuck.
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>>158033379
ScottJund used this shit in the beta so it's okay.

What a tosser
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>>158033446
but it's all wrong,
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>>158033317
What platform?
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>>158032948

I literally just did with the long spear, still get staggered like a bitch.

WTF DID THEY EVEN CHANGE WITH POISE I DONT GET IT IVE TRIED EVERYTHING!!!
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>>158033379
This is the face of high speed e-sport pvp
>>
Can confirm making a new character doesn't work, unless there's a trigger later on
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>>158033379
>weapon arts that do damage and are worth using
Holy shit, it's the end of the world. It's almost like this game-defining unique mechanic is finally worth a damn
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>Scott's"Duels with an Actual Good Pyromancer - Dark Souls II"
>mfw youtube commentaries
I can't believe people really defend reactive gameplay with meta weapon against meh pyro with shitty Witch's Locks
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>>158033379
I'm tired and sick of people complaining about balance.
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>>158033396
>people complain about SM in DS2 and the MP mechanics making it hard to invade specific people
>Miyazaki gives everyone SL back and lobbies and the ability to let your friends connect to you directly regardless of SL
>wonder why DS3 is such a boring gankfest

Never listen to your community.
>>
Holy shit. Anyone else do the DLC as a Lord of Hollows yet? This dialogue got some deepest lore behind it.
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>>158033578
Spears only have HA on the WA, for R1/R2s they got nothing. Long Spear's bonus is fucking stupid, only useful when you use it offhand.
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>>158033420
>if these people are just pansies or if it really rends your soul to have people shitpost on YT.
Its both.
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>>158033571
pc
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>>158033379
>everyone complains CCS is OP
>they introduce a new, even more OP weapon
>now people will stop complaining about CCS

game designing 101
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>>158033590
But he fought a total of TEN people to prove his point. Now accept his word as law
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I like 120SL invasions more than 60SL.
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>>158033420
What are you even talking about? What bubble?

He is steal a twitch streamer. Twitch is more comfy for dealing with haters and autist.

Can just permanent ban anyone who is acting foolish.

Also there's way more money to be made streaming with donations and subscriptions.

On top of all of that you can still just upload highlights of your twitch streams directly to YouTube for the people like you who only want to watch youtube videos and not support with subscriptions and donations.

Why wouldn't someone go the better route that is superior in almost every way?

If you want someone to be a YouTube slave then go do it yourself and become a YouTube star.
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>>158033583
It's not based on game triggers.
One of the streamers is doing it on NG+ and he bumrushed straight to the Cathedral for it.

The NPC won't appear until you have the DLC installed. That's it.
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>Fromsoft explicitly nerfed Acid Surge only to buff the living hell out of it 6 months after release
>only to appease the brodudes who go through the game once

Really makes u think

How much does it cost to repair weapons and armor at Andre?
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>>158033587
>It's almost like this game-defining unique mechanic is finally worth a damn
Yeah
One ONE weapon
Which is already god tier with most of the strengths of CCS with none of the weaknesses
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>>158033379
everything about this webm summarizes dark souls in the current year
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>>158033659

The fucking point is that poise should give some kind of HA or stagger protection against fucking SOMETHING at least with the LITERAL HIGHEST poise you can get (full havels, +2 wolf ring, etc).

It literally doesn't do shit. It's pointless.

They said they fixed poise in this latest patch, I see nothing changed.
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>>158033743
It has less AR than the carthus and less reach. It has a gimmicky WA going for it and that's it.
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>>158033780
Essentially nothing
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Nerf when?
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>>158033743
They nerfed CCS pretty hard
>>158033748
>TEN people
2 people
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>>158033832
who do you think you're talking to?
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>>158033306
Really looking forward to the size mod.

Can other players see it? I.E. TRUE Yhorm invasions
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>>158033862
>They nerfed CCS pretty hard
No they didn't.
It's literally unchanged.
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>>158033862
>They nerfed CCS pretty hard
Nope.
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>>1580336>>158033640
Like what?
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>>158033832

That doesn't answer the question of wtf did they even change with poise in this latest patch?

What changed? They said heavier weapons and armor... I'm wearing the heaviest armor in the game, why does it do fuck-all?
>>
>>158033876
>>158033938
just level up more
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>>158033379
>explicitly cheating on stream
:^)
>>
I have an Irithyllian knight, a Deacon, and a Darkwraith from Londor. Who do I take through the DLC?
>>
>PSN still down
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCcFQ-GWoto
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>>158033789
Stop crying holy shit. Last week all you did was cry on and on about ccs being too strong and WA not being useful. It got nerfed now Stfu faggot and finally a good WA.

No matter how godly From makes its games you will always be crying about something.

The world isn't perfect. Adapt or die. Stop winning about every little thing.

I bet you also cry about rich people being able to afford things that you can't afford.
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The only ring in the DLC.
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I guess I'll just curse and break their equipment
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>>158033938
It does exactly what it always did in DS3, they just changed the numbers
If you thought those notes actually meant they turned on DS1/2 poise you're dumb as bricks
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>>158033862
He talked about fighting more people but said only 2 were decent.
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>>158033954

Level up what? What does that even mean? Are you saying a high enough VIT will activate poise or something?
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>>158034012
>It got nerfed now
Wrong.
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>>158033840
>its actually useful now
>NERF
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>>158033938
it works the same way it did prepatch, but a little more and on more things

if you don't have HA, you get staggered and no amount of poise will change that since it only works during HA. Just use a weapon with HA.
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>>158033924
>>158033930
But stamina and 400AR
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>>158034073
just use better weaopns
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>>158033379
it's saif all over again
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>>158033717
Sorry, if PS4 I would have bought it for you in exchange for helping me make a cleric build for coop summons.

>>158033712
That's too bad.

>>158033772
The bubble of surrounding yourself with dick suckers, and the most fervent of which become mods who hold people to their standards, so it becomes a filter bubble or echo chamber. It is the most disgusting part of twitch.

Also the lack of production sucks. Yeah sometimes live is fun and more personal, but there are plenty of things better suited or just unique and more interesting when produced over stumbled through live.

>>158034006
No its not. I'm screwing around with some JP at Crystal Sage now. I think he wants me to help him gank an invader.
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>>158034040
>wedding ring
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>>158034040
Nice. The bite rings set is now complete.
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>>158033931
Like (actual spoiler) Yuria is the sister of Elfriede and Elfriede ran away to the painted world and shit. I don't remember every line exactly but goddamn it's neat.
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>>158034040
Is there a +1 in NG+?

>>158033840
Oh fuck

it shouldn't go back to being useless but that's faster than machinegun corrosive urns
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>>158034192
>once per ng ring
>wedding
once per character or fuck off
>>
Did they really just add a single ring
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>>158033938
Are you really this dim, /v/ bro?
Holy shit.

The timeframe of HA on HA weapons was modified. Ultras have longer-lasting HA that begins earlier.

The HA modifiers of small HA weapons (greatsword and glaives) was nerfed. It's now easier to break their HA. Axes and Hammers got HA added to their 2H R1s.

The amount of poise granted by heavy armour was greatly increased. The poise returns for stacking high-weight armour is radically higher than previously and the difference between standard and heavy armour poise is much larger.

The function of the poise stat from armour is unchanged. It decreases the amount of poise damage you take during hyperarmour, effectively making hyperarmour more difficult to break. That's it.

You don't magically add HA to non-HA weapons by stacking STATS like an overleveled shitter. Get over it.
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>>158033989
>>158033989
>>158033989
pls respondo m8s need to know for my inner fashionista

Deacon char could double as a Way of White char if there's a paladin leeroy set or some shit
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>>158020237
How is that good?

Poise just rewards bad players who R1 mash instead of dodging attacks.
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>>158033938
>>158034360
to add, the reason you were getting staggered out of drang hammers attacks is because they do not have any HA, meaning no amount of poise will do anything for that weapon.
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>>158033583
>>158033776
They straight up didn't include the maps or NPC models in this patch. There's no way of getting into the DLC legitimately or illegitimately, unless you got a golden ticket from Bamco or you're profiting from Microsoft's incompetency.
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>>158034501
No it punishes players who mash R1 instead of dodging attacks.
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>>158034330
>Is there a +1 in NG+?
Probably.
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>>158034549
But I wanna play it nooooow
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>>158033989
Irithyllian cause frost Scythe
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>>158034185
>No its not.
It is.
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>>158033840
Hopefully never. You need to be braindead to get hit by it.
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>>158033840
How about this:
The rate of corrosion increases with the intensity of the cloud. Probably too hard for FROM, they'll just nerf it into oblivion
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>>158033806
>They said they fixed poise in this latest patch, I see nothing changed.
They did minor adjustments for the values.
>Wolf +2 ring use to give +20 poise, now it's like 8.
>Long Spear use to add +10 poise, now it's like 5
>Yhorm's shield use to add +45 poise, now it's like +12
Also you need more poise to use your HA, no more have 0.1 poise and get basically full HA benefits.

Unless your weapon's moveset has HA as part of it, poise does nothing.
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>>158034610
Holy shit it's just 4 days
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>>158034040
>Still no ring that regens FP
From pls
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>>158033916
>Can other players see it? I.E. TRUE Yhorm invasions

Unfortunately, no. Also, it works by what you could basically call "model class", I guess. All "Player" model class characters will be scaled up the same size, so if you're double-sized, so will Hawkwood or Greirat for instance.

If you use it in PvP, you'll see yourself and the other player as giants, but they'll see both of you as normal sized.
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>>158020938
So you think you're entitled to content that people work for months to create for free?

Fuck off kid. It's $15. If you're complaining about $15 then you really have bigger problems in your life than a video game.
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>>158034064

That STILL doesn't answer the question of wtf it does now since the patch, how it's useful (or how to make it useful).
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>>158034703
actually it's 2 days and a half.
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>>158034549
>didn't include the maps to prevent break-ins
>didn't include the NPCs to prevent plot spoilers
>included weapons so CE users can try them out all they want, but pre-spoiled them in a promotional event
I gotta say, Bamco smartened up this time around.
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>>158034702
>poise no longer pointless
>wolf ring gutted
no from why it was always worth more poise than havels ring
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>>158034618
Was Sully a waifufag? Is that why he armed his knights with ice scythes? Or is he mocking her?
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>>158034185
You sound really fucking dumb. What the hell do you want from him?

With YouTube
>less money unless you are pewdipie
>people constantly reminding you of the death of your child and constant hateful trolling that is low effort and not funny
>more work for less money
>need to have unique videos


Twitch
>army of mods who shield you from all but the most masterful of trolls which are still fun for everyone
>easy to do content, just turn on the stream and do anything, play games, talk about random stuff, even just eat in front of the camera and still get paid
>literally free money with donations and subscriptions once your base is large enough
>can still send any of ur random daily streams to be made into youtube content for extra easy money.

Do you not want him to be successful? What more do you want? Do you want him to personally only make videos for you and stroke your dick while you watch them and pay you on top of that?
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>instead of nerfing the Carthus CS they just introduced a similar weapon that's even better

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>158034562
Unless they have more poise.
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>>158034618
Man, I gotta say I love this fad for armpits among japanese artists recently.
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Just reformatted and now my Dark Souls 3 save says it's corrupt. After looking around a bit I see this is pretty common?

No way to fix this bullshit?
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>>158034767
I literally just told you
It does exactly the same thing
Poise has not changed
All that has changed is how MUCH poise you start with, how MUCH poise you get from armor, and the multipliers on HA
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>>158034542
>>158034360

So basically using full havels with a BKG is when it would be useful now? To improve its already-existing HA, for longer I guess?
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>>158034664
Don't be stupid
A pyromancer holding back in a gank can break your shit guaranteed
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>try to hit someone with Sacred Flame
>realize it has no HA whatsoever
Wait
But I thought
Fuck
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>>158034767
having poise decreases poise damage which when depleted your hyper armor breaks

>>158034838
just get better armor

>>158034890
good we need more good weapons instead of shit weapons.

>>158034907
just dodge or get more poise
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>>158034185
>Sorry, if PS4 I would have bought it for you in exchange for helping me make a cleric build for coop summons


Well, if you weren't so cheap you could just buy me both the ps4 and the dlc. Of course I would also need a ps4 copy of dark souls 3.
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>>158034929
yeah, but more so with a greataxe or greathammer. axes and hammers while 2h will now benefit too.
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>>158034863
We don't want to be apart of a fucking hugbox.
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>>158034962
If it had HA it'd be broken as fuck.
Just use iron flesh. :^)
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>>158034659
I don't know why your third world country servers are down or temporarily nonresponsive, but you can't refute "it's working for hundreds of thousands of people" with "no they're down".

Maybe walk back up the hill and finish your education while you wait.
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>>158034890
>shorter
>less AR
>same generic moveset
>no bleed
>only notable feature is a strong but gimmicky WA that locks you into an animation for a long time and is extremely punishable if it doesn't land
Bu hu
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>>158034968
So either get gud or, if you're a scrub, just stack poise. Gotcha.
>>
>this Millwood knight with the earthquake axe

Literally what the fuck
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>>158035134
how about git gud AND stack poise, scrub.
>>
>all these PCucks thinking poise is back
please stop spreading misinformation
>>
There will be many, many waifufags trying to cosplay Friede
They will be completely SHREDDED thanks to that whopping 7~12% defense
They will try to use the weapon with armor, but unlike Rakuyo the waifufag weapon isn't actually good this time despite the flash
They will look for an actually good weapon
They will try the crow quills and such, get parried into oblivion
Then they will try the follower sabre

And it will be worse than CCS
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>>158035125
fucking this

There are so many vocal crybabies here that are so excited to jump the gun on a weapon that less than 10% of the community has used, just so they have something to complain about
>>
Holy fuck

I just tried fighting this fucking havel cosplay


you literally cannot fucking win against anybody with more poise than you, if you are both using an ultra greatweapon
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>>158034863
because all communication needs to be at the shitposting and cynical level of the 4chinz XD

But you're right, kinda silly how jealous and petty people get over twitch streamers.
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>>158035024
That's the beauty of it. You don't have to watch.

If you want your oh so random and edgy 4chan streamers then maybe you should support shy Cass when he streaming. I'm sure jojo would stream for you if you all donated.

I personally would prefer that Aerthas of Vera guy. He's my kind of autism.
>>
What are the Farron UGS runnin attacks?
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>>158035304
working as intended
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>>158035093
>third world country servers
Tryharder. When PSN in down it's down for every regeon, /pol/tard
>"it's working for hundreds of thousands of people" with "no they're down".
Try harder, shitposter
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>>158035264
but poise works for hyper armor
>>
Post your faces when you learn that Scot jund is listened to by from for PvP balance
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>>158035371
they weren't changed at all anon, first thing i checked
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>>158035304
Isn't that how it's supposed to work?

That's how it worked in das1
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>>158034824
>didn't include the NPCs to prevent plot spoilers
>went ahead and spoiled everything in advance anyway

Gee, thanks Bamco.
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>>158035304
just use better weapon
just level up more
just use better armor
just don't rely on trading
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>>158035406
for hyper armor when attacking, not old poise where you stand still and have armor
PCucks are fucking dumb
>>
god i want to do a havel's cosplay so fucking bad right now my dick is so fucking hard
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>>158035450
He literally just posted a video about how dumb it is that the sabre and CCS are so good
So if that was true it wouldn't worry me
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>>158034758
You have no idea how sick that /v/ mentality that guy exhibits makes me.

I am a software engineer and I make shit all day that helps people but I constantly hear people wonder why they should pay for something they can just copy.

>>158034863
I want him to stop trying to be what he's not. He's following the fucking moron's goal of "LIVE OFF OF THE INTERNET" while scorning the internet. So he ran to a part of the internet where he can double dip and be surrounded by a hugbox, and where he can fuck up, not finish playthroughs ever, and still get his dick sucked.

It's not about success, it's about shit you obviously don't get.

Growing up with the internet has made too many people stupid.

>>158034993
>if you give a mouse a cookie
Sorry, if that's the case I'd just get you a PS4 and Bloodborne and its dlc. And the new ratchet and clank because it's just nice popcorn fun. DS3 is just, I mean it's the souls we have, not really what we wanted even if it isn't bad per se.

>>158035341
I'm not jealous of him, I want old Markus back. and I'm not being petty over him being a twitch streamer either, it's legitimate criticism of his moving the goalpost on his get rich quick internet scheme that so many shit for brains have fallen for.

>>158035343
That's part of the issue though, twitch is a different experience than just video uploads. Some people don't want to pretend they have e-friends and pay them too.
>>
>>158035343
I'm not really part of this argument or really care, just giving my 2 cents. You should go back to your hugbox. I'm sure there are a lot of chased dudes you need to suck off.
>>
>>158035563
give me 35 krillion posts where people said old poise was back
>>
>>158035406
>>158035563
Poise in DS3 IS hyper armour.
>>
Just lost 800000 Souls trying to navigate down this big ass twisty root thing.

rip
>>
>>158035304
>I want to win against X using A
>you cant, there is B, C, D and E though
>NO, I WANT TO WIN AGAINST X USING A, YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!
>>
>>158035341
Well that's what it sounds like you guys want.

I mean damn not even most 4chan posters can handle what they dish out.

Imagine your younger sibling or wife or something dies in front of you. Would you want to be constantly reminded of that shit by neckbeards day in and day out?

Most people can not just get over something like that but the average 4chan poster and especially btards and pol posters think it's fine to do shit like that without being able to take it themselves.
>>
>>158035674
out fucking skilled
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>>158035595
This poster is pure cancer. Are you same guy who spam "PCcuck"?
>>
>>158035671
no it's not. poise is the resistance hyper armor has against poise breaking.
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>>158035343
I'd donate if Zullie streamed.
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>>158035595
>I want old Markus back.
Well I have no idea who he actually is or who he was so pardon me.
>>
IGN GAVE DLC 7.8
7.8.
7.8.
IT'S OVER
DLC IS SHIT
DLC IS TOO SHORT, HAS LIKE NO BOSSES, GEAR OR ANYTHING
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>wolf ring +2 is 40% as effective as it was before 1.08
Damn it, From. 8 poise?
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>>158035610
I can go back to a hugbox whenever I'm done baiting the hell out this thread. That's the beauty of anonymity.

You won't even know when I'm gone.
>>
>>158035402
It's been this way since the beginning of time in 2007 and I won't remark on prior PS based online since you'd be too fucking poor and not free enough to get it.

If maintenance or partial down is coming, and you are logged in, your login will carry you until it comes back. If you need refresh your login or you're logged out, you're just fucked.

People who can't figure this out wonder why PSN is down for maintenance while everyone else is playing. Literally since 2007. Get rekt shitforbrains. I'm playing online right now, tarkus build carrying people through crystal sage.

I'm not a troll, I'm just not some faggot in shitland who just says "PSN SUCKS PSN DOWN" when I and only I or a minority cannot connect.
>>
>>158035821
>tfw it only gives 6 poise if you have 20
>used to give 35
Jinkies.

The +0 version must be completely worthless now.
>>
>>158035747
>same guy who spam PCuck
Not him but PCuck is a sitewise slang used by tons of people, stop thinking it's one guy out to get you kid.
>>
The salt is real with this one>>158035563
>>
>>158035895
>The +0 version must be completely worthless now.
>now
lel
>>
nice
there's a farmable mob in the dlc that has a chance to drop slabs
>>
hey fags, yu think the season pass will get cheaper on g2gay in the next four days?
>>
>>158035792
Only if "she" is actually female.
>>
oh jesus, I just fought the twinkle twinkle scythe in pvp and boy do I feel a meta coming on
>>
>>158035595
The thing that gets me is that people have no problem spending $15 on a meal at a restaurant or a movie but when it comes to spending money on a game that will give them dozens maybe hundreds of hours of enjoyment suddenly it's "expensive".

Get some perspective guys.
>>
>>158035371
:thinking:
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TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES
HEROES IN A HALFSHELL
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>>158036016
w-what mob
>>
>>158035856
>I'm playing online right now, tarkus build carrying people through crystal sage.
You keep repeeting same shit again and again. You're clearly shitposter, becuse japanese psn in down too.
>>
Dude new Pyromancies sweet
>>
>>158036126
You're very late to this joke.
>>
So....how does exactly parting pyro flame WA work? Do i just use it? Because that doesn't do shit (yes,i tried drinking my estus)
>>
>>158036126
>slowpoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ceG3WgxII
>>
>tfw have to wait for the PC release to get actual numbers on how poise works
>>
>>158036054
Well, if you can't see a dick then it counts as a girl right?
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JUST LIKE THE GOOD OL' DAYS

time to make a low level invader pyromancer with no weapons and acid surge, poison mist, and toxic mist. Even pvp memetards aren't going to have repair powder at level 20
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>buff lightning blade dsa
>activate two-handed mode
>infinite poise
>infinite rollcatching ability
>infinite overpoweredness

faith is good again
>>
>>158035052
>disable rolling only to deal moderate damage
That sounds very reasonable
You fucking hack
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Has anybody else just wanted to stay here and rub the dragon's talons? haha.
>>
NEW BREAD
>>
>>158035747
No, I'm a programmer so I play PC games too. Are you dense? Also console wars is for little people.

>>158035801
If you want a feel for it, watch his Vagrant Story videos or Muramasa videos.

Hell, even his Soul Sacrifice videos were gold.

>>158035853
The absence of the heavy scent of old cum/saliva and no one going on about twitch streamers anymore will be enough of an indicator that you're back hard at work elsewhere.

>>158036069
It kills me.

There's these dudes at a company nearby. Small company, and they have to connect to this database at a hospital to get billing info.

Then they transfer it to an excel sheet with a formula in it.

Then it shits out some numbers, and they put all the info plus the new number into their DB.

This took 3 people pulling individual records and going through the process working fulltime to "keep up".

They hired me to freelance, I automated the entire process so it runs on a shitty 200 dollar walmart desktop headless unit, and does the requests as fast as they come in.

3 people now either fired or doing something worthwhile.

They tried to argue in fucking open court that they shouldn't have to pay me for it because I was there to freelance and help consult to improve their business, but the software was something they could just copy paste as they pleased, and wasn't tangible that I carried in or could leave with.

Since after doing that, they saved 3 salaries they considered my job done, and then decided no pay.

Yeah, I didn't want to eat or live inside of a building.
>>
>>158036518
>>158036518
>>158036518
scoot
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>>158036365
replace poison mist with storyteller staff WA

it does about three times the damage for some reason
>>
>>158035747
>guy making thought out arguments and not just shit posting or attention whoring with avatars or trip

>cancer
>>
>>158036365
dont forget to kill them with kirks armor
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>>158036207
at least i've made something myself :(
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>>158035941
this PCuck is mad af
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>>158036365
>time to make a low level invader pyromancer with no weapons and acid surge, poison mist, and toxic mist
LIKE THE THE GOOD OL' DAYS AFTER 9/11 ยงยง
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