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NEWS
>P5 Translations: http://p5anon.imgur.com/
>Trophies https://imgur.com/a/AwlYV
>Full Soundtrack https://mega.nz/#!SkhyDCDb!qlwAxLlyc1dNkBek3cJtT12Hf_oBXOaIm71Y9Vompy0I
>Locations/Dungeons/Misc https://imgur.com/a/FEkpW
>Voice files: https://mega.nz/#!qcsmTQBR!eDpNzWytu6JQ1BYBoO79dhboXzdbZgz3T95jKlXX5U4
>Portraits https://mega.nz/#!R0EzxIyb!WRA_4wI_4nOuZzrjbTeW8mo9LdfFn5Cx4y0HzYS8MG4
>Other Images https://mega.nz/#!VlF1VAyA!KSzFsKg2r3Q_Drv6fSjP5kl-SuRUI_bAHzs8z_IjzWU
>The Soundtrack can be found at http://domi-persona.tumblr.com/post/150303511502/p5-ost-unzip-pw-sharebymamoru-updated
>P5A: the Day Breakers is out and subbed on Nyaa
>P3: Winter of Rebirth BD rips are out on Nyaa
>Persona 5 released in Japan; February 14th in North America and Europe + PAL regions
>Take Your Heart and Steelbook Editions for NA up for pre-orders at Gamestop and Amazon
>20th Anniversary FES to take place at 3331 Arts Chiyoda in December 2016
>P5's English Cast http://personacentral.com/persona-5-voice-cast-revealed-protagonist-trailer/

SCANS
archive.is/U8Ka0
archive.is/FaYLc

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S
GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona image collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>P5: The Aesthetics Artbook
https://mega.nz/#!BBR2BYoQ!zRI40J_hA7QzqnuUX_zcHbd7Uf36Me5sngLBFzwPEQY

MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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>>157919217
>inb4 this is the characterization of the cast in the spin-offs
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The perfect Crow.
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Here's my family pic
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Unhappy family children unite!
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>>157919368
Which is better? with cape or without it?
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>>157919452
Makoto and Futaba have Sae and Soujiro though.
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What the fuck were the Kuzunohas doing in P5? Aren't they supposed to protect the capital?
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>>157919528
I like the cape, personally

Hopefully someone will draw fanart someday, I can't draw humans worth a shit
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>>157919567
The Kuzunohas and the other clans might be doing some stuff behind the scenes, maybe there's some reference to them that we still didn't got.
They're not like Naoto and Goro the less people knows about them the better
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About the diary, if you give it to Sojiro before going out to meet your co-ops on the last day, you get a little scene of him reading the diary and wiping his eyes.
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>>157919567
chilling with Shadow Ops
>>157919958
huh, that's neat
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>>157920042
Translations, please?
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Why is /pg/ so gay
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I wish everybody could have gotten a Shujin uniform, it looks really good.
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why dont they just put everyone in same school? is atlus trying to make it more realistic (urban teen friends from varying school) but isnt it efficient for Igor to just put everyone in same school?
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>>157920441
probably more "fun" that way if we're dragging the game into this
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>>157920298
Yeah, it really does. Goro transferred to Shujin, or was going to, right? It's a bummer we didn't get to see him like this.
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>>157920298
The first and fourth ones look nice. If he just wore the blazer without the suspenders, that would look the best imo.
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>>157920661
Not the same guy, but pretty sure it's an edit by the Goro edit anon, he posted it on his twitter account
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>>157921046
Yeah, I figured it was probably that anon. The actual concept art looks like Joker's
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>>157920042
>G: Huh? Huh? Ahaha, wait a moment, what is this?
>G: Something like this all of a sudden...
>G: Besides, why do you smell so nice...? Huh? Wait, wait, I'm scared...
>G: Uwah... incredible... you're really warm...
>G: Uwah...

>>157920147
>G: Ah... afwah...
>Y: Throb not, my heart...
>F: Get going, Inari.
>M: [fidget, fidget]
>A: [excited trembling]
>H: What line is this~?
>Sign: LOVING GODMOTHER - physical experience course, one person gets three minutes
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guys what if the true ending is just a plot for P5 Arena
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>>157921267
that was kind of heartwarming and hilarious at the same time. Potter really could do as a therapist huh
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>>157919452
Fuck man they really did go all out in getting rid of everyone's parents this time.
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>>157920740
NO NIPPLES
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7/11 train station conversation. Rushjob translation as usual, but it should be more or less fine.

>G: [smile] It's a pleasant morning, isn't it? How are you?
>G: [neutral] ...to think the Phantom Thieves really managed to eliminate a scoundrel even the police had trouble with.
>G: [sad] Even on the internet, the amount of Phantom Thief sympathizers keeps increasing. There's no room for the side that'd say things like "That's not justice."
>G: [neutral] These days, that's all the news will cover.
>G: ...but can you really declare that the Phantom Thieves are just based only on this?

>* What do you mean?

>G: Originally, I was pursuing what's known as the "mental berserking incidents."
>G: One day, all of a sudden, people would change and cause wild accidents and brutal incidents
>G: ...Don't you think that's similar? To the "reforming" the Phantom Thieves do, I mean.
>G: [sad] ......
>G: [neutral] Thinking about it, the uproar about the Phantom Thieves, and the mental berserking incidents... The time they started, and the pace at which they spread, they're quite similar too.
>G: I don't think it's unreasonable to say that they're not completely unrelated...
>G: [surprised] ...Oh, sorry, I'm making you run late, aren't I. Then see you around.

I should probably check what the other option gets at some point, but this one's pretty interesting.
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Unless I have incorrect info, I had another thought about Sae's co-op item that may be peculiar:

Isn't the item she gives you (a business card I think) for her new job? Combined with the co-op skill name and description, that also seems a little weird, but maybe it's just me?

Of course if that business card is not actually for her new job then ignore me
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>>157921761
>Combined with the co-op skill name and description, that also seems a little weird
how the fuck is that weird it's literally a barrister business card that just doesn't happen to do anything assuming the theories that she was supposed to be a normal co-op true
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>>157921756
>"That's not justice."

Man, these actually are really interesting.
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>>157921789
>>157921879
anon, we don't understand
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>>157921789
Uh, okay? This isn't news to anyone.
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>>157921789
>>157921879
i only recognize the kanji for "Akechi" thanks to pixiv
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>>157920873
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>>157921267
so they're basically lined up for a hug in order of need lmao
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yo guys what are the sacrificed item for max judgement persona? anyone tried clear game using that item with the persona?
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>>157922213
Your virginity
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>>157922213
looked it up. it's satan and item given is male armor. should we try let goro have it?
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>>157921913
Most of the train station conversations with him are pretty nice. Not all of them are as interesting as that one, but they add a fair bit to Goro's character overall, especially since a lot of them have moments where his real personality shines through a bit.

And sometimes they're kind of amusing, like when his first reaction to seeing Joker after he's gone to the beach with the others following Futaba's dungeon is basically "huh? Did you get a tan? Something about you looks different."

>>157922164
Yep.

>>157922213
Satan's the max Judgment persona, and sacrificing him gets you the 弘誓の鎧 armor for guys which reduces magical damage by a lot. Don't think anyone's tried playing through the game with both, but I'd be surprised if that triggered anything.
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>>157921267
Why is Goro making such lewd noises
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>>157922490
hes a lewd boy
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>>157922410
>Did you get a tan

It's like he Sherlock scans Potter whenever they meet.
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is goro a wild card or something, how does he have multiple personas?
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>>157923070
Yes.
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Has anyone translated the PT's shitposts yet?
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>>157923239
The SNS chats? There's a ton of them as part of the story and a few for hanging out (generic and tied to co-op progression), so that'd be a lot to translate.
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>>157923325
Has anyone translated any interesting ones? Or are they all untranslated?
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>>157921267
Hey, thanks
Can you do this one too?
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>>157920147
>>157921267
>Joker makes a literal hugbox
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>>157923380
The only one I remember being translated is this
IIRC Goro asks to be notified when the PT wants to go to the casino, Joker says "Nah"

>Goro : Don't be mean
>Goro : Otherwise I'll come to Leblanc everyday, you know?
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>>157923070
Yeah, apparently Yaldyboy can give Wild Cards to people as he pleases. And is stronger than Igor. And can take over the VR. And separate the attendant into two lolis and a butterfly.
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>>157921761
You're right. She quits being a prosecutor at the end of the game and becomes a lawyer. She gives you her lawyer business card
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>>157923380
I haven't seen any of them translated here, outside of the snippet >>157923569 mentioned. I have a couple of them saved, but they're more for personal reference and not that interesting out of context.

>>157923442
>Mission: Lick eyelid
>M: (Since that guy's doubting us...)
>J: What's with this mission?
>M: (Be careful and lick it, Joker.)
>J: Hey, what IS with this mission?

>G: The pancakes here are delicious, aren't they? P5-kun.

>J: [trembling]

>M: That's wrong!! Why're you trying to lick your own eyelid?!
>J: Then whose, yours!? Your eyelids!?
>M: That's wrong, stop!!
>G: (What is this situation...?)

>M: Dumbass, lick HIS eyelid!
>J: Wha!? Why would I do that!?
>M: Just listen to me and lick it!!

>J: ...Akechi.
>G: W-what is it?

>J: THERE!!

>J: Akechi, I'm gonna clean up the cream stuck to your face.
>G: You OK?
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canon neko!
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>>157924401
What the fuck
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>>157924582
Some artists have a really special sense of humor.
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>>157925006
why is Yosuke's hair orange but Goro's is still gray?
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>>157925131
Because he's dead.
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>>157925006
Joker's bro still alive.
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>>157925006
>17 minutes ago
H-Hayai. Don't you have anything better to do than check twitter?
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>>157925131
He's obviously a ghost
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>>157925165
>>157925243
You sure Phantom isn't just being a cunt and ignoring him?
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>>157925225
Why are you asking a question when you already know this answer?

>>157925289
Since he's the only one grayscale, unlikely
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>>157925201
this
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>>157925225
if any of us had anything better to do we wouldn't be here
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Are the moon image boards saying anything about the English cast? I remember seeing some reactions to other English casts before, and P5 has so much star power in the Japanese version that I figure they might discussing the changes, too. At least among the VO otaku.
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>>157925859
they probably dont give a shit
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>All the complaining about the English cast being made up of literally whos

At least there's no Bryce fucking Papenbrook or Ashley bloody Burch in there to guarantee shit things up.

Ashley Burch made P4DAN nigh unplayable, and I'm pretty sure the main reason my sister considers Komaeda Nagito to be a shit character with no redeeming features is because of Papenbrook's godawful performance.

Also I like how the week's top listings by popularity on behindthevoiceactors are currently the P5 English cast list with goddamn Xander Mobus at the top.
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>>157925859
>>157926295
Why should they care? It's not like most of them can understand English.
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>>157927105
>At least there's no Bryce fucking Papenbrook
he's voicing Yuki
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>>157925006
>that pretending Goro was or could have been Joker's best bro
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>>157927456
It's just the artist drawing their favorite pairs, don't read too much into it.
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>>157927105
>see Cassandra Lee Morris in the cast
>Oh cool, I liked her performance as Fie in Cold Steel the Trails Of, I wonder how-
>she's playing the goddamn cat
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>>157927349
Your talking like most people here who care about Japanese VA can even remotely understand the language outside of few common words they hear in anime like nani or bakana.
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>>157925859
That's like asking if any of us would care about the actors chosen for a foreign dub of an English game. They're never going to play our version and there's no way they'd have an opinion on a cast of nobodies, so no.
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>>157927105
>and I'm pretty sure the main reason my sister considers Komaeda Nagito to be a shit character with no redeeming features is because of Papenbrook's godawful performance.
Nah, I'm pretty sure the main reason your sister considers Komaeda Nagito to be a shit character with no redeeming features is because of her godawful shit taste.
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PQ2 when?
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>>157927726
Most likely a FE# Whatever port.
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>>157927681
She hates him for being an "edgy meme lulzrandumb character who does dumb shit for dumb reasons"

But if anyone had to suffer through Papenbrook sounding like a fourteen year old boy alternating between attempts at impersonating Mark Hamill's Joker and the Nolan Batman then they'd probably think the same too.
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>>157927726
Never, hopefully.
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>>157928464
>But if anyone had to suffer through Papenbrook sounding like a fourteen year old boy alternating between attempts at impersonating Mark Hamill's Joker and the Nolan Batman then they'd probably think the same too.
>had to
Yeah. If they had to, that is. Fortunately both SDR2 and its predecessor have dual audio available, so that's the shittiest excuse you can give.
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>>157928773
She played the dub because she wanted to be able to listen to long dialogue sections on autoread while doing other things.
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>>157929036
Why the fuck would you do that, especially with a game that requires you to pay attention to the fucking dialogue? I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you anon, but your sister might be retarded.
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>>157927726
Anyone has that pic of Nintendofags claiming that P5 would go the 3DS or WiiU?
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>>157929267
At least part of the time she was dual wielding playing SDR2 on the PC with one hand while simultaneously shiny hunting/grinding/egg hatching Pokemon on a 3DS with the other hand.

We are getting wildly off topic, though.
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>>157927726
looks like p5's coming to nintendo switch boys
what a way to find out about the announcement. those mini controllers look like a hand cramp waiting to happen for anyone above the age of 5
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>>157929407
They're already port begging for it on the Switch.
Fucking pathetic.
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>>157929486
So she pretty much didn't played the game, then. No wonder she thinks Nagito is shit, I bet she doesn't even understand his character or his motivations. I rest my fucking case.
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>>157929593
Or SMT5
or SMTXFE2
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>>157929586
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>>157930235
どうなの!?
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>>157930341
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After the end of Teddie's Social Link where he somehow wanders into the Blue Velvet Room and concludes that even if there is no real him, he can still make a difference and he's still glad that he met Yu, Igor makes the following remark.

First, he remarks that shadows, fragments of the self/ego, have no place in the Velvet room, a place for those who have the potential to nurture their egos further.
Then, he says this:
>The water's strength had moved a single stone that had stopped, returning it once again into the flow
So Teddie used to be dead and his life experiences revived him? Or is Igor just commenting on the fact that Teddie has been "brought to life"?
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>>157927726
>tfw the ps4 already did the Switch better than nintendo with vita's remote play

Sony always wins baby.
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Huh, asking Goro if he's a supporter of the PT on 10/24 makes him say that's an overstatement, but that he can't deny that a part of him can sympathize with them. I was going to stick with asking about him disliking Shidou, but this reaction feels more interesting than that one (which had him mostly dodge the question).

>>157928464
Was Papenbrook's voice acting that off compared to Ogata's performance? I didn't really keep up with the localization for that game.

>>157930658
>Type: Pan/Cake
>Ability: Sharp Nose
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>>157931127
I took it more as "teddie didn't wanna put up with any of that shit and ran away but we brought him back so that the plot would continue"
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Yandere stalker girl for party member!
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>>157931575
>>157931712
>>157931965
I know who's that girl
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>>157931965
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>>157929616
fuck off Mary
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>>157932062
She kind of looks like a batshit Anna.
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>>157931648
>Type: Pan/Cake

kek, I didn't expect the pancake thing to become as big in Japan as here

Isn't there another choice other than asking him about Shidou or PT?
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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is best girl!
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Giving a butthead to Makoto's honkers
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>>157931660
Well, I'm going to trust the writers and assume that it really did mean something.
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>another free costume
>update on november 2nd adding the TRUE TRUE TRUE ending probably

thank you based atlus I'm glad I imported.
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>>157932062
Tomoko?
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Makoto a cute.
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Senpais cat-fighting over Potter!
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>>157932448
Fuck

>grown up Tomoko
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This is your maid today.
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>>157931189
It's not a console that streams to other devices though, its a portable system that you can play on your tv. The benefit is that you can play at home or take it with you, rather than having to buy two systems with two separate libraries.

>>157931648
So I see the pancake jokes are catching on in Japan now. Maybe because the spoiler embargo is lifting?
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>>157932374
Oh boy, costumes and music from my 2nd favorite persona game.
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>>157932452
Morgana looks hyped

Someone should take him to some FGC tournament
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>>157932374
They should've just given you a way to select costumes and battle bgms separately, they would've avoided these shenanigans entirely.

Are they going to give the P4 costume DLC away too now, since it plays Time to Make History instead of Reach Out to the Truth?
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>>157932452
Me on the right
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>>157932452
Reminded me of this a little.
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>>157925006
Goro will never be loved or accepted by Joker! Goro is a loser!
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>>157931712
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>>157933609
Ponytails don't suit Goro at all.
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>>157932262
Yeah, you can ask him what he means by truth, which just leads to him asking what Joker thinks about why a group attacking people indiscriminately would only make the teacher/Kamoshida and the artist/Madarame apologize, and wondering if it's really just one group responsible. It's probably the least interesting of the three options, since you don't really get any new information out of it.

>>157932582
I think it's probably because the spoiler embargo's getting more lax. There's been a few pancake jokes here and there so far, just less than here.

>>157932374
The update's probably just to fix the music issue for the P1 costume DLC. Would be nice if it included anything more significant, though.
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DEJAVU

IVEJUSTBEENINTHISPLACEBEFORE
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>>157934315

KAZ I'M HAVING DEJA VU
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Is Persona 1 and 2 actually worth playing?
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>>157934578
persona started at 5
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>>157934578
Yes.
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My controller broke and I need to finish persona 3 what do?
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>>157931127
It's been a long time since I played, but there is a point where the limo stops and Igor tells you to use that time to think about everything that happened so far, isn't that around that point? Maybe the stone is supposed to refer to the limo
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>>157934749
Get a new controler?
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>>157934991
BROKE AS FUCK HOMBRE
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>>157934749
get an emulator
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>>157935229
I have one but ive yet to see if the keyboard controls are good, might ruin the experience
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>>157935294
I played P4 with keyboard and it worked fine enough, just takes a moment to get used to
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>>157935435
did it ruin the experience
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>>157935294
how could a keyboard ruin a rpg experience
it's not like it's a fighting game
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>>157936016
because I won't be laying back like I would with a controller
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>>157935498
Since it was P4, there was nothing to ruin really
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>>157936016
Reminds me of the time I tried playing Raidou on an emulator. Shit was fucking horrible
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Where's the supposed real life location of the main setting in Persona series?

Mikage Town = ???
Sumaru City = ???
Iwatodai City & Tatsumi Port = ???
Inaba Town = Fuefuki, Yamanashi

No need to mention Tokyo since it's obvious.
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>>157937098
well, the combat in Raidou isn't turn based so that might be a problem
>>157937173
Tatsumi Port Island is based on an artificla island called Port Island (ポートアイランド) in Kobe.
Sumaru is Yokohama
>Sumaru resembles Yokohama since the wards Konan-ku and Aoba-ku are actually wards of Yokohama. Sumaru and Yokohama are also pretty much at exactly the same spot if you compare the maps.
>Mount Iwato refers to Amano Iwato (heavenly rock cave) at Takachiho, Miyazaki Prefecture (Kyushu). That’s where Ame no Uzume is said to have lured Amaterasu out of the cave with her Kagura dance when Amaterasu hid there because of Susanoo.
>From IS Mount Katatsumuri (snail mountain) as well as Caracol both refer to the actual Caracol (snail) Maya site at Cayo District of Belize
Mikage-chou seems to be the only one that isn't based on a real location
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>>157937602
>90 minutes at most by train from Tokyo to Yokohama
>40 minutes by car
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Potter hugging his parents!
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Chu
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>>157938189

So what's going on with Potter's parents in P5 exactly? I know he gets shipped off against his will, but do they try to contact him or understand why he did what he did
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>>157938268
They solve a sudoku off-screen because their only son has a criminal record
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>>157937602
>>157937828
If we take the real life lication as the setting of Persona series. Then the cast of P2 and P5 are living close next to each other. P4 cast is a bit far away from them, but still close. P3 cast is living the most far away from the rest of the Persona cast.
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>>157938189
Seeing this makes me sad because of most of his friends aren't lucky to have good and caring parents like this anon point out >>157919452
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>>157938628
I hope P6 will be set on Hokkaido
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>>157938628

I want P6 to be here

I don't know what is on that little island, but it's gotta be there
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I hope that this doujin is released of Sae

It will involve her capturing Morgana in his normal ordinary cat form during the events of September and deciding that he is a member of the PT.

She is determined to make him speak in human languages instead of meows, and so, she pins him down, and gets out a pussy willow and lightly tickles Morgana's butt until he speaks up.

Of course, this will be a non-h comic.
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>>157937602
Wait, it's easy to guess where Mikage is. I'd say it's pretty close to Tokyo and Sumaru, since Tamaki first transfers to Mikage, then works for Kyouji in Sumaru. Kawasaki maybe?
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PLEASE DONT TAKE OFF MY MASK
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>>157939263
>I hope that this doujin is released of Sae
>Of course, this will be a non-h comic.

make up your mind
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>>157939263
Would be hotter if she suspected Goro joined the thieves and fucked the truth out of him
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>>157940661
speaking of Goro, i'm surprised he hasn't gotten any rape art at all. There eventually will be one, yeah, but still, that's quite a feat considering even Ryuji already got one.

Goro is purest
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>>157941760
How moe
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>>157941587
>this is the closest to rape i got, and it's not even explicit
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>anne will never nude model for you so you can paint her goddess body

just die in my sleep fampais
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>>157939151
Ain't that where you go on holiday in P3 and where you meet Aigis?
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>>157938189
I still want to believe that the dad is Reiji.
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>>157944304
Huh, it is.
P6 set in old Kirijo lab then?
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Who is this man? What was his plan?
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>>157939271
I think Kawasaki would make the most sense since you also get to see the If.... school in ISP.

>>157938268
I want to think they bother to call their son, but because of "muh self insert" we will never get to see that.
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>>157945229
I refrained from mentioning those quests because I don't know whether they're canon or not. I still find it all really neat for some reason.
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>>157945409
Considering most of the P1 cast moves/works in Sumaru City, Kawasaki wouldn't be too farfetched?
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>forehead edit anon is gone
>please god let me meet him anon is gone
>haru anon is gone
>orgy scenario anon is gone
>makotoharu anon is gone
>post doujins ideas anon is gone
>more canon than the girls anon is gone

Who else is even left
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>>157945826
I am
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>>157945826
Anne is ___! anon
Sumaru City anon
Takashi Kido anon.

I personally miss Crusty.
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http://p-ch.jp/news/detail/?nid=497
pretty based tbqh
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>>157929593
Its going to be TMS 2 Avex said CD sales were profitable so they will fund the game.
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>>157946119
So if you liked A Lone Prayer then you can still keep it?

I wonder how large the patch is going to be.
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>>157945826
More canon than the girls

i'm actually still lurking here every once in a while

i miss the other anons too though
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>>157945998
Anne is ___ is still there, same for Sumaru City anon

There's still Goro edit anon et translator anon.
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>>157946364
>So if you liked A Lone Prayer then you can still keep it?
It's not changing, they're updating the name since it was misleading.
The DLC is being made free for everyone
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>>157946519
No, I meant that those guys were still there.
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>>157945998
Anne is ___! anon said he's thinking of stopping, good night sweet prince.
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>>157946881
Sumaru City anon here. I promise to stop as soon as I inevitably get proven wrong. I don't know if the second Sumaru City anon will do that though.
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>>157945826
>less shitty repost retards and more OC intelligent smart wealthy anons

how is this a bad thing?
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>>157947043
rude
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>>157946168
sauce?
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>>157947216
rag_omm
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>telling Sae about the time Goro gave you a blow job and rode your dick to fix that boner side effect from one of Tae's experiments

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=59478055
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>>157947427
Nice.
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>>157947310
much thanks, famiglia
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>>157947043
They were all there at the peak of /pg/ when the threads were pretty fast, it was always fun times
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>look at Goro's default equipment
>notice his armor's description

...his shirt is order-made to match his suit? Seriously?

>>157945826
Orgy scenario anon's been around recently, he just doesn't post as often as the other anons.
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>>157948787
What a nerd.
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>>157948787
What a fag

What's his default accessory?
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>>157932374
>Version 1.03
That's new right? Previous was only 1.01 if I remember.
Hopefully somebody datamines this one too, even if it probably won't have anything on it other than a music fix.
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>>157948787
Is Goro supposed to be wealthy? If his clothes are tailor-made, he should be, but how can an orphan gather so much money? Could be thanks to the money he makes with his job, or maybe Shidou supports him. or maybe old men
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>>157948787
Old men really do pay well
>>
All of you are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, Byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, abrasive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, clueless, and gene
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>>157949154
He makes TV appearances, too, isn't he sort of the media's darling. At least when the public isn't hating on him because of PT.
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>>157948787
>...his shirt is order-made to match his suit? Seriously?
just like a certain sociopath
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Is there a rip of the piano version of the cruise ship theme that plays in the restaurant?
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Starting stats. Unlike Haru, who joins a bit underleveled (or at least did in both of my runs so far), he's on par with the rest of the main party right now.

>>157948891
His default accessory is his tie (labeled Formal Tie), apparently. Nothing particularly notable about that one.

>>157949154
Aside from his work with the police, he's invited for interviews on TV shows a lot during the earlier parts of the story. He probably makes enough money himself, though I wouldn't really be surprised if Shidou provided him with funds after he approached him either.
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>>157947562
Dem HERO booty shorts.
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>>157927456
The thing Goro and Yosuke have in common is that hey're both fujobaits and best boys of their games
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>>157951938
Best boy is Shinya Oda
Made for pounding
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>>157952456
No this is best boy
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>>157950897
>45
What level do you end the game at approximately?
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>>157932575
Jesus fuck. Please tell me that blushing face is not an edit. Or would that be a lie?
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>>157950897
>tfw Goro's tie is the same color as Loki
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>>157950897
>Goro has a bunch of skills to unlock even though he doesn't stay very long

What's his final move?
>>
Will we ever get another tragic ending in Persona or are the new protags cursed to work overtime in spin-offs?
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>>157954136
Debilitate
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>>157950897
Why does Robin Hood have tits?
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>G: It's fine, please leave it to me. I have to show you my good side, right?

>* Will you be alright?

>G: I wonder. You probably won't get a turn.

And then he really did end up taking out the Ose in one turn. Someone's a showoff.

>>157953119
Mid to high 80s seems to be the average level at the end of the game for most, at least from what I've seen. It's not really too hard to hit the level cap if you're willing to grind a bit in the final dungeon (or by repeatedly fighting the reaper during influenza season).

>>157953354
It's an edit, sorry, anon.
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>>157954190
Maybe in P6, but I doubt it. People get too attatched to the protags nowadays. Some people still can't let go MC is dead.
Chain has been P1(non-tragic)-P2(tragic)-P3(tragic)-P4(non-tragic)-P5(non-tragic)unless P5's equivalent of P2EP happens
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>>157954542
>It's an edit, sorry, anon.
I assume Sae's slink is literally Adachi and Goro tier? All automatic?
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>>157954709
Where have you been, everybody knows Sae's automatic. Missing/Skips 4 ranks too.
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>>157954709
All automatic, and hers skips from rank 6 to rank 10 on top of that, yeah.
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>>157954542
>Mid to high 80s
Dang. When do you get Goro again? October? That's only like two months for about 40 levels.
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>>157954542
>G: It's fine, please leave it to me. I have to show you my good side, right?

>* Will you be alright?

>G: I wonder. You probably won't get a turn.

So cocky
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>>157954848
October 29th is when he joins, though you can't really start grinding him until the 30th because there's only one fight on the 29th. You don't even get a full month to use him, since he leaves the party after you finish Niijima Palace.
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>>157954820
Is her co-op even about her or does it represent her thoughts on the Phantoms' growth?
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So is Joker supposed to really have the justice arcana since he's Goro's foil, who has the reverse Justice and reverse Fool
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>>157954542
Anon, when you reach Shidou's palace, can you confirm whether Goro really physically comes to Leblanc to arrest you even after his death if you fail to clear the dungeon on time?
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>>157955071
It's her gradually growing to trust Joker as he tells her about everything that happened up until his capture.
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>>157955053
That's still a huge level jump. 3(?) dungeons and 2 months for 40+ levels. Do these dungeons give a lot of experience?
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>>157931648
>Was Papenbrook's voice acting that off compared to Ogata's performance?
Night and day.
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>>157955232
I'm planning to if nobody's done so by the time I get that far in this run, yeah.

Will probably take a while to get there, though, since I'll be spending a while trying to get as much Mementos dialogue as I can while I have access to every party member.
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Papenbrook did nothing wrong.
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>>157955435
What is Mementos dialogue and how does it work?
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>>157956476
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>>157955338
Some of the later enemy groups give a lot of EXP, not to mention a lot of players probably raised the Moon co-op by then (which boosts the amount of EXP you get and how much EXP the characters not in your active party get), which helps. The Reaper also gives a lot of EXP if you beat him, and there's a pretty easy way to cheese him by exploiting the flu season's effect of randomly causing enemies to start with the despair status effect.

>>157955784
While you're in Mementos, every once in a while your party members start talking among themselves. There's a lot of possible dialogue, but it also gets interrupted if you get into a fight/break a wall blocking the path/find the next set of stairs, so it's a bit troublesome.

>>157955390
That bad, huh? Wonder if it was due to bad voice direction or Papenbrook just being a bad fit for that role.
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>>157956657
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>>157955784
Assuming he's referring to what I think, he's talking about how the characters just have random banter as you crawl. Some of it's actually really funny, like one had Anne insinuating Ryuji and the Protag are gay.
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>>157956797
>>157956853
Alrighty. Thanks guys.
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>>157956853
>Anne insinuating Ryuji and the Protag are gay
How frank is this insinuation? Like "oh you seem to spend a lot of time together"?
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>>157957058
I got that particular one ages ago, so I don't recall the specifics, but Ryuji was talking about wanting to do some activity with the Protag, and Anne followed up with something like "Two men... Alone together... Don't ____..." Again, sorry for not remembering specifically what it was they wanted to do, but it was something men wouldn't normally do together, like trying on clothes or something.
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>>157946992
I'll take it into consideration.
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>>157957330
>Don't _____
Meant 'doing'
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>there are people who like Yukari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TeT1WwPR0U
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>>157955338
Dungeons are much longer than past games, especially the later ones, and as you rank up Yuki's co-op you're EXP gains significantly increase. Plus having Mementos as a side Dungeon that frequently gets missions means you'll be doing more Dungeon crawling overall. Fortunately dungeons are fun as fuck, so that's not a bad thing, while I certainly wouldn't have wanted more Dungeon crawling in P3 or 4.
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Is he "our" guy?
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>>157958321
Besides Yuki and I guess your party members, what are the co-ops to look out for?
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>>157958604
Toranosuke for more money, Sadayo for more time, and Hifumi and Shinya for battle shit. A lot of people skip Shinya, but he actually has really good gun skills.
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>>157956476
>>157956657
>>157956812

translator anon where are you
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>>157958824
ded
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>>157958120
did you upload that yourself anon
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>>157958604
Hifumi's gives you the ability to switch out party members midbattle very early on, so definitely that one.
Kawakami's is really useful for increasing your social parameters, so that too, and her max co-op lets you still do activities after visiting a dungeon (you'd normally be tired and have to go to bed).
Toranosuke's gives you an ability that lets you get massive amounts of money from negotiations, and if you find you're struggling with money, I HIGHLY recommend asking demons for money at every opportunity, since you get a shit tonne.
Takemi's gives you the ability to buy accessories from her (and then provides discounts on top of them), and you can get an accessory that heals 7 SP every turn, which in the later dungeons, having that equipped on everyone meant I never ever had to worry about SP again.
The other co-ops still give great skills too, but those would be the ones to bear in mind I'd say.
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I want Maya to sit on my face!
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>>157958604
I've heard that Chihaya (Fortune) is important because she gives you a skill where you gain more points for your social links and they rank up much faster
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>>157958723
>>157959218
>>157959431
Neat. Thanks.

Also, going on with Shinya, are guns worthwhile? And how exactly do they work? I know they can be shot on a character's turn, and if you finish a clip or rounds or whatever, that finishes their turn.
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>>157959431
Yeah, but there's a shrine you can visit that does as similar thing in exchange for cash. Hers was a fun co-op though, so I'd recommend it.
For what it's worth, you'll have enough time to get a good taste of every co-op, and if you're smart enough, you should be able to max out almost if not all of them.
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Do not cheat on the Futaba
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>>157959586
Using a gun at all ends your turn. You can only fire a max of one clip. Guns can be very useful for getting more than one enemy, but I honestly didn't find them very viable.
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>>157959673
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ねこ
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>>157959786
Alrighty.
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>Atlus couldn't deliver this
Worst game of the year
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>>157962151
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God damn the cruise ship is freaking awesome.
I can't think of a more "phantom thief" setting than a gold plated cruise ship with a masquerade party.
Music is so freaking good, to the point where I almost don't want to enter a battle just to keep listening to it.
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>>157962209
Looks like we've found ourselves a solution to the best homo pair debate
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>>157962682
>>157939852
Agreed
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>>157962761
Even if it makes the least sense, it's better than both of them with Joker. I can dig it.
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>>157962682
Doesn't the first Arsène Lupin story start on a cruise ship?
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>>157962984
Was going to add that yeah, before release I remember saying 'now all it needs is a cruise ship'. As soon as the camera panned out and showed the ship in game I had the biggest grin.
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>>157962953
Nah. Still prefer with Joker.
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>>157963517
Joker is for vaginas!
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>tfw my gf looks exactly like Anne

love it
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>>157964323
Normies go
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>tfw dubbing Anne

hated it
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>tfw my bf thinks I look like Anne

love it
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>>157964035
Joker is for Joker!
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>>157964813
Ok, this is best homo pair.
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>>157964981
we are the best homo pair
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>>157965081
He's mine back off???
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>>157965081
Agreeable. Who tops?
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>tfw my cat looks like Morgana

love it
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>>157965160
I'll fucking fight you for him.
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>tfw my little sister gf looks just like Futaba

lovin' it
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>>157956797
I think it's Papenbrook being bad for the role, on top of him not having the acting chops to pull off Nagito's character. He turned the character from a smooth-sounding, but almost spindly psychopath into a mostly monotone football jock. Ogata even said that Nagito was the toughest character she's ever played, and that was with a ton more experience and Kodaka likely being there to guide how the character needed to be. She spent a ton of time on pretty much each individual line, which is practically unheard of in any dubbing, much less low-budget localization.

Honestly, they should've just given the part to another actor, even if it would've meant losing the potential for confusing players on all the similarities to Makoto. Papenbrook was a decent-ish Makoto, but better to have a competent performance over some thematic connections that don't amount to anything in the story. It would've been nice to have some emotional range over being stuck in some vaguely jolly purgatory.
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Some lovely PERSONA discussion here
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>>157965690
People still use/care for amiibos? I thought that shit died.
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>>157965738
Who's Persona? He sounds cute.
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Who's the best antagonist in the franchise /pg/?
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>>157965738
inverted nipples with big areolas
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>>157965597
That's interesting to read. Is there an interview with her about her roles in DR?
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>>157965738
There's nothing to talk about, and there will be nothing to talk about until february.
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>>157965881
muh dick
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>>157962682
not sure if you got this part yet but there's a part where you climb on the outside of the cruise liner and the sun casts the PT's shadow on the wall as they move around.

Probably one of the better picaresque moments in the game, it just looks really cool.
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>>157966142
Nothing new is coming out in February though?
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were the P5 menu images ever ripped? I'm seeing the co-op/joker stuff, but not the text 'dont look at me' etc. Is there another image dump I'm missing?
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I'm so glad they got rid of Charm.
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>>157966134
I'd have to look it up. I read it like two years ago when DR2 still wasn't out in English.

But to tie things back to Persona, I'm glad that Yuki doesn't seem to be Papenbrook. My only fear is that it's the guy who played Nanashi/Akira in Apocalypse. The guy couldn't even get basic grunts right without his voice going all over the place, and he couldn't hold the few conversations he had, either.
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>>157966607
>being a pussy faggot and not grinding to level 99 in Monad
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>>157966343
There will be more to talk about once the game comes out in english because everyone here will be able to understand it.
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What's that ailment with the wifi symbol? From what I've seen that just works like charm.
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>>157966667
Nanashi sounded awful in English and he said like 2 words
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>>157966607
Charm's still there though, and the same thing can happen still just that the final boss doesn't use it.
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>>157966712
Surely you guys all understand the game? Why else would you be here?
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>>157959586
Late reply, but there's an ability you can unlock by doing his Co-op that allows you to instantly down an enemy using guns, regardless of resistances. The most you do his Co-Op, the less bullets it takes.
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>>157966878
we have nothing better to do
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Do they give an actual reason why Margaret left the Velvet Room? Obviously I get that new main title game equals new attendant, and I understand why Elizabeth left, but last I checked, Narukami isn't stuck in a door and in need of saving, although Margaret did say she would go to the same lengths for him if necessary.
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>>157966953
Interesting. And to pull back to a question I didn't ask; when do bullets 'refresh?' After battle? And do you need to buy more bullets like Soul Hackers or just once like SMTIV?
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>>157967119
Wanted McDonalds
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>>157967275
When you leave the dungeon, bullets are really limited.
You don't need to buy any ammo though
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>>157967323
Oh, how fucking funny. Margaret is not your favorite girl so you make her leave for shitty, greasy food. Very fucking funny, Anon. 10/10
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>>157967426
>anon is mad she didn't bring him any McDonalds back
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>>157967119
She just isn't Joker's attendant.
PQ confirms they have rooms so she probably is at home with Theo wherever that is.
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>>157967426
wew
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>>157967426
Dumb p4cringefag poster
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>>157967482
What a bitch, Lavenza would never do that
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>>157967689
dumb smug animeposter (You)
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>>157967397
Oh. Well that's shit. Gonna have to be really thrifty with them. I'd prefer Soul Hackers' way over this.
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>>157967636
Is this the Velvet Mansion now or what?
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>tfw too smart for video games
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>>157967636
>>157967789
They all stay in Billingen Tower among the sea of the collective unconscious. The Elevator and The Prison probably is located inside of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollingen_Tower
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>>157968042
>>tfw too smart for Persona 4
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>>157968147
Everyone is
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>>157968042
Everyone is
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>>157968042
How would that even work?
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>>157968413
>tfw anon isn't smart enough to know how it'd work
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>https://twitter.com/ayattuji/status/789114118506631168

>Ayattuji starts supporting HaruxGoro
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>>157968413
solved the book puzzle in kamoshida palace in two seconds
games are just unable to match my extreme intellect
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>>157968657
He's also drawn Goro and Tae sucking a Mara shaped dildo together so
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>>157968772
No, but the picture description mentions it
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>>157968657
Their art is shit, who cares
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>>157968995
He draws faces weird sometimes but it's usually pretty alright. He also draws pretty amusing scenarios.
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>>157969097
>He
It's a dude? I was pretty sure it was another fujo who multiships
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>>157969264
Kinda gives off dude vibes to me but I have no fucking clue
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>>157969346
After the Goro/Tae mara drawing I can't fucking tell either
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>>157969264
Most of the fanart posted are drawn by girls but I always see people use "he". Probably so we can all pretend we don't stalk fujo twitters.
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Sae needs more art
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>>157969572
How's it stalking if you're just following the person?
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>Ryuji: Hey, Akechi.
>Goro: What?
>Ryuji: Did you figure out the real culprit's goal?
>Futaba: Come to think of it, you said you saw a masked guy, right?
>Haru: I wanted to hear about that too.
>Futaba: Did you really see him?
>Futaba: That masked guy's the real culprit, yeah?
>Goro: There's no doubt that there's only a single true culprit, is there?
>Futaba: I see~
>Yusuke: So, what's that masked guy's real identity?
>Goro: Well, that's as far as I've gotten.
>Futaba: What an useless guy.
>Goro: You're harsh, aren't you?
>Futaba: You're embarrassing me~
>Anne: That wasn't praise...
>Goro: For now, I still haven't been able to find any clues.
>Goro: Once this is dealt with, I'll catch him for sure.
>Goro: I promise.

>* I'm counting on you.

>Goro: Please leave it to me.
>Goro: I'm saying this myself, but despite how it may seem, I'm an excellent detective.
>Goro: That's why I'll catch him for sure, so please anticipate it.

Also, it looks like Goro doesn't react if you bring him along when dealing with Mementos quests. It's kind of weird to not have him react at all when you're dealing with, say, parents that are exploiting their child for personal gain or an actual hitman.
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>>157969679
It's hyperbole, anon.
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>>157969679
>not stalking every single artist right down to people they follow, their followers and stalking those too
no wonder why you fags never find art
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>>157969713
>Goro: You're harsh, aren't you?
>Futaba: You're embarrassing me~
>Anne: That wasn't praise...
kek
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>>157969713
>Also, it looks like Goro doesn't react if you bring him along when dealing with Mementos quests.
Atlus pls
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>>157969713
>Also, it looks like Goro doesn't react if you bring him along when dealing with Mementos quests. It's kind of weird to not have him react at all when you're dealing with, say, parents that are exploiting their child for personal gain or an actual hitman.
Yeah I was talking about this the other day. To how the game treats taking Goro to mementos as a non-canon thing.
People told me that it might've been because Goro only cares about the Palaces and shit for Shidou so he doesn't care about stuff like Mementos, but it's still weird the game doesn't give a cutscene or anything of him being even remotely weirded out or surprised.
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>>157969713
Futaba: What an useless guy.
>Goro: You're harsh, aren't you?
>Futaba: You're embarrassing me~
>Anne: That wasn't praise...
Damn, I wish he was around longer. He could've been bullied so much.
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>>157969865
Blunt and cute. I like that.
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>>157969713
>that sweet dramatic irony
kek. his interaction with PT is great. thanks, anon.
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>>157970085
I wonder if he's already familiar with Mementos (maybe due to "Igor"/Yaldabaoth telling him about it), actually. I mean, what are the odds of every single person he was supposed to deal with having an actual palace of their own?

He does get dialogue when checking on the team's current condition as well as when just traversing Mementos, so it's really weird that he doesn't get extra dialogue in sidequests or cutscenes there.

>>157970101
He still gets bullied plenty, even in some mandatory cutscenes (Ryuji in particular tries really hard to make him look like an idiot, but usually fails). Even Joker gets a few pretty mean options, although the nicer ones are usually the default responses.
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There's so much dance outfit fanart.
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>>157969713
Futaba sure talks big for someone who would piss her pants just from having the guy glare at her in person.
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>>157970505
Doesn't Joker have asshole responses to just about everyone though?
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>>157970514
It's Goro's best outfit, also the matching with Joker is nice.

>>157970505
Takoyaki scene comes to mind. I'm glad Joker as bullying options too given what Goro does.
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>>157970630
He does
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Does P5 have the Talk option in dungeons like in P4G?
Do the characters comment on their costumes?
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>>157970505
I doubt he's familiar with mementos because apparently only Morgana knew. It's just a plothole I don't understand. He should've been more surprised.
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Had Atlus not revealed there was a traitor beforehand, would you guys have expected Goro's betrayal anyway?
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>>157970572
Just like your typical autist from around here
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>>157970882
I thought it was so obvious that Atlus wouldn't even do it in the first place, but here we are.

Without confirming the concept of a traitor, I probably would've just thought he'd be an anti-hero turn friend
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This is your imouto tonight
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>>157959673
She must be having a hard time, she's typing on a pillow instead of a keyboard
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>>157970882
tbqh I thought the traitor thing would be a red herring and Atlus wouldn't make the traitor so obvious, but, here we are.
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Since PT set up the fake palace does that mean they knew Goro was going to actually kill Joker? I thought they just suspected him for being shifty and lying about his persona, not that he was actually capable of murder. They acted really surprised to find out he was the black mask.
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>>157970630
Yeah, he does. I've noticed that a fair few of his asshole options are actually pretty similar to how Goro talks when he stops putting up an act, come to think of it. I wonder if that's intentional?

>>157970830
I don't think it's impossible that he could've found out thanks to fake Igor, since in a few of the Velvet Room dreams it sounds like he's paying close attention to Goro's actions too.

You'd think he'd at least feign surprise or something, though.

>>157970882
Probably, it's barely a twist in-game. If anything, him being the traitor feels like it's meant to deflect from Igor being fishy as fuck too.
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>>157971057
All need to pitch in and get her some prosthetic hands
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>>157971057
>only tonight
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>>157970882
I still don't understand why should there be a traitor, or at least don't make it so underwhelmingly obvious.
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>>157971180
They knew because Futaba was tracking his phone calls and he was talking with Shidou about killing Joker so yeah.
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>give Igor this deep ass voice replacement
>think we're dumb enough to think he's not fishy as fuck
I hate Atlus forever
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>>157971826
Enjoy your same audio in dub
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"Goro is Igor" was probably the funniest thing to come out of /pg/ during the rips
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>>157970882
If they didn't reveal the existence of a traitor until Sae's interrogation towards the end of the game I probably would've thought he was a red herring because choosing him would be too damn obvious.

>>157971503
I think it's to give more impact to the real twist. But yeah, it could've been handled better.
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>>157972112
A persona game written by /pg/ will be superior than any Hashino work desu
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>>157972301
it (and its sequel of course) would definitely be memorable at least
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>>157972112
good times
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>>157943120
>>157924458
>>157960121
>>157960349
Morgana anon, could you put all of the Morgana/Joker fanart you found in an imgur album? Pretty please?
Unless you're not one person
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What does cum taste like?
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>>157972539
>tfw you made the original pancake clock image with the wrong face that that other anon fixed
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There's been a lot of art of Potter hugging Goro lately.

it's great and sucks at the same time because the game won't even let you do that.
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>>157973393
Everyone knows that hugging someone means you now are on a romantic relationship.
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>>157973593
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>>157973593
b-but potter and goro are more canon than the girls
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Canon
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Has Atlus USA apologized for the poor dub yet?
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>barely any yandere Goro/Joker where Goro straight up murders him.
fujofags have shit taste.
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>>157973921
Vanilla is power!
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>>157973918
"No"
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>>157974113
Joker looks cute like that
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>>157973918
actually lots of people love our dubs
have some fucking respect
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>>157974208
yeah it shows off the neat little double-breasted style pattern too
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Has this convo been translated yet?
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>>157974330
this. Just check the youtube page its full of praise

get fucked /pg/
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>Joker and Yusuke got a lot of faceless men art
>Even ryuuji got one
>Goro barely gets any

i told you guys, Goro is pure
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>I don't like the Persona dubs
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>>157973151
Ask Goro! He's the expert on semen!
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>>157974551
sometimes the fujoshitting gets even more retarded than usual
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>Baww no dual audio but here is my money anyway
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>>157974512
Is that an e-cigar or a keychain flashlight?
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>Challenge mode isn't just more grind!
>it actually is just that
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>>157974617
Someone doesn't wanna know what semen tastes like
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>>157974551
Delet this Goro is pure
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>>157974509
It's because Goro is the one most likely to have been faceless men fucked in canon that it has lost it's appeal in fandom works.

Well that and dumb sappy fujos who want to see him 'happy with Joker'
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>>157974875
>the one most likely to have been faceless men fucked in canon
What are you even smoking.
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>>157970816
>Does P5 have the Talk option in dungeons like in P4G?
I've tried every button but no I don't think so.
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>>157974952
Dicks, just like Goro!
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>>157974875
>Goro is the one most likely to have been faceless men fucked in canon

That's Yusuke
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>>157973593
>mfw I hugged my mom recently
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>>157974972
i guess the mementos dialogue replaces it as far as little one line bits of characterization goes
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>>157974987
this navigator has social anxiety
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>>157974875
>this log was only tagged P5
>doesn't even have character names tagged or even Persona 5 in jp
I hate when artists do this
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>>157975086
lewd
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>>157975142
Their height difference must make sex pretty interesting
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>>157975076
Yusuke's too unaware of that type of stuff.

Goro "I did whatever the adults asked of me" Akechi, meanwhile...
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>>157975072
>master1200
that's 14 pixels you will never get back
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>>157975086
>tfw no mom s.link
>tfw no you and mom spent a long time together
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>>157975319
Yusuke was kept as a slave by an old man who exploited him for years, he was obviously broken by all the degeneracy he was forced into and that's why he's so autistic now.
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>>157974875
>Goro is the one most likely to have been faceless men fucked in canon that it has lost it's appeal in fandom works

who is Slaine then
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>>157975270
>pretty interesting
He probably ripped her apart

>>157975076
Yusuke is dubious. You'd think he'd know alot more if he was exploited by Madarame.

Goro said he was always obedient to all the adults to get to the position he has now.

Just face it, Goro was old men's boytoy. It plausibly explains his situation as well.
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>>157975270
>ywn what it feel to have sex with a womanlet
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>>157975717
A good fuccboi stuck in a really fucking shitty show who didn't get as many faceless men/saucybum rape doujins as much as he should've.
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>>157927726
Switch has no touchscreen. Etrian Odyssey is doomed. PQ2 won't happen either.
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>>157976591
>tfw PQ2 on PS4
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>remove Goro, Futaba and Joker from /pg/
>its empty
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>>157976879
What about Morgana
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I like Makoto's rear end
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>>157976983
Yakuza member #23154 please go
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>>157976782
Joker is an amputee!
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>>157976983
There you go
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post your prediction for the next popularity poll /pg/
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>>157977254
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>>157976979
Morgana is 猫
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>>157977484
>Neko ja nai in english
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>>157977421
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>>157977327
Main:
Joker
Futaba
Morgana
Yusuke
Makoto
Anne
Haru
Ryuji
Goro isn't main

Overall:
Joker
Futaba
Morgana
Yusuke
Goro
Sadayo
Makoto
Tae
Caroline and Justine
The rest are whatever
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>>157977327
I can see Joker, Futaba, Goro, and Morgana for the top four but don't know for sure about everyone else
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>>157977618
>Goro isn't main

Nice meme
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>>157977792
To be fair he was in the side characters poll before the game's release. Though he did get his own PS4 theme recently so, I dunno.
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>>157977484
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Rewatching some streams and got to the takoyaki part again.
Holy shit i never really noticed the noises Goro made are lewd as fuck. I wonder if they did that on purpose?
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>>157972905
Sorry, anon, but there are at least two of us. I may put all my nekos in an imgur folder soon but I can't right now.
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>>157978012
Why doesn't pg have a booru? Even fucking smtg does
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>>157978012
Thanks.
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>>157978131
/pg/ a shit. /smtg/ even has resident drawfags.
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>>157977327
>Joker
>Morgana
>Futaba
>Goro
>Some ordering of the rest
>Ryuji

Remember when Japanese impressions said that Ryuji could end up being a fan favorite?
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>>157978369
Ryuji started pretty decentish then he went to the trash.
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>>157978229
if /pg/ had drawfags i would ask them politely for porn of the girl i like, and then be really rude while pretending to ask for the girls i dont like as much, to discourage the drawfags from drawing those girls

I'd lump in goro with the other girls but goro fans are already cancer so it's not necessary
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>>157978369
>the most hated character in 2ch
>ever going to top popularity poll
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>>157978054
i like the way they draw haru
looks like an old school shoujo protagonist
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>>157978579
Don't leave me hanging. Which one of those four incurs the wrath of nips?
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>>157978369
That's because despite being worse than the rest of the cast, he was still better than all of P3 and P4's.
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>>157978579
I'm talking about before the game was even out, when Atlus was doing exclusive demos for a small handful of people.
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>>157978552
which girl do you like anon
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>>157978916
__You__
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>>157979031
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>>157978054
>HaruxGoro memes are real
>>
>Girlfriend said she would cosplay as Margaret for me in bed if I dress up like some faggot from her anime she watches
>Proceed to do so
>She refuses to dress up for me
Stick to waifus, /pg/
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>>157978054
Seems they have the potential to develop into the sweetest couple.
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>>157979692
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>>157977554
god damn it I need those shadow op costumes
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>>157978797
I'm pretty sure Ryuji's short term growth in popularity happened because players found out what Kamoshida did to him and that earned him some sympathy. But Ryuji still has a lot of traits that Japanese people find unappealing (he's loud, impulsive, rude, etc) and he's also got quite a few "god dammit Ryuji" moments that have made people hate him.
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>>157979692
>cosplay as Margaret
your gf is a trap?
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Dad Goro is best Goro.
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>>157979785
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>>157979929
Don't you mean Dead
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>>157979791
So is it more that he's just an outlier in the culture, or are his bad moments enough to color things from anyone's perspective? Because his line in the English trailer wouldn't really endear to him, either.
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>>157979929
>How do you do, fellow kids
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>>157980043
bit of both
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>>157979970
>his hips
t-thicker?
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Swiggity Swoogity

Daddy Akechi comin' for dat Joker booty
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>>157979929
He would be a terrible dad.
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>>157980267
that fucking file name lmao

nice
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Does anyone have Makoto PS3 theme?
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>>157980352
>>157980158
>>157980023
>>157979929
Daddy Goro went to buy some cigarettes from grandpa's office and never came back!
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Cute NEET
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>>157980043
*endear me to him

>>157980215
Well, that's a shame. He was probably the character I was looking forward to most before launch.

>>157979929
>Comissions getting shirts woven
>Doesn't iron them
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>>157980526
How fresh will her memes be with the Atlus US treatment?
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>>157980572
>tfw when futaba is the leader of the alt-right
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>>157980572
Pepe will for sure be mentioned.
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>>157980543
yeah its unfortunate. i think really executing on his potential as a character would've taken a defter hand that atlus has or is willing to try though.
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>>157980572
Joker, let's plot a course!
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>>157980526
what did potter do to make cute neet mad
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>>157980526
Why does fanart always show her blushing when she doesn't 90% of the time in the game
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Post rare Foreheads
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>>157980572
With the french themes in the game you can bet your ass they'll shove le epic meme in there and justify it as fitting.
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>>157980841
because nobody blushes in the game
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>>157980759
> i think really executing on his potential as a character would've taken a defter hand that atlus has or is willing to try though.
You can say that for the entire cast though
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>>157979929
>rides bikes
>didn't get tatsuya's ep riding gear as costume
reee
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>>157969713

Mementos dialogue (not counting stuff they say while riding around) has no variation. Meaning party members don't say anything until your at quests and layers that aren't available until they've joined (meaning anyone other than the initial group will be silent until you've hit levels and quests that unlock only after they join)

Beyond the fact that Goro is the last to join, since he leaves, that means dialogue might trigger after he's gone, so they just didn't give Goro any Mementos dialogue whatsoever.
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>>157980869
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>CA RO RI NAH will now be CA RO LIEN
>JUST EE NAH will now be JUST EEN
>JO KAH will now be JO KERRRRRRRR
>LEE DAH will now be LEA DERRRR
>PAN THA will now be PAN THER
>YOSHi will now be ALL RIGHT


I'm not ready for these dubs.
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>>157980739
Oh yeah considering her mask thing kinda looks like a frog
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>>157980995
I AM NOT A CAT

in Edea Lea voice
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>>157980925
sadly very true
though i think ryuji is a case where rather than just falling short of potential, they fell short of the level of the other characters too.
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>Atlus USA hired a very feminine voice for Morgana
>Morgana turned out to be a male
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>>157980739
Let's not forget about power levels, big guys, voiced hnnghnn at the beginning of the twins fight, feels etc etc
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>>157980043
Ryuji's general personality is going to be better received in the west, I think, but it still surprises me just how many character flaws he has. I think a lot of people are going to find at least one of his flaws intolerable and wind up hating him regardless of what part of the world you come from and what your values are.
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>>157981173
His Japanese voice is a female, but unlike her English voice she dies a convincing male one.
They also cast her back at e3, before they even had the game.
How incompetent can they get?
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>>157981173
>There are people who will unironically think that Morgana might be a lesbian cat because ""she"" hits on the girls
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>>157981312
more than that, there's just no nuance to the way he's flawed. even by the very low standards of nuance in persona characters

feels like a half formed idea
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>>157981173
Idk, I think that just makes it funnier that Morgana says "I'm male, isn't it obvious?"
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>>157980969
>tfw you support Yusuke and Haru pre-release.
>tfw Yusuke and Haru had no meaningfuk interaction.
>tfw Yusuke is more close to Futaba because of their autistic banter.
>yfw now you support Yusuke and Futaba shipping.
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>>157981312
What flaws would those be, just off the top of your head?
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>>157981342
They likely figured that with a name like "Morgana" Atlus intentionally picked a feminine name out to indicate "female" despite not outright saying any confirmation either way. That said, since you find out so early on that Morgana is a boy I wonder why Atlus even bothered not specifying in the prerelease info.
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>>157981340
Cassandra is a cute neko
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>>157977840

You can thank Tales of Zestria for that. The fanbase lost their shit so badly at losing one party member that was promoted as a main character halfway through the game and reacted with such rage and hate that the director of the series is afraid to go to events now.

As a result they were as blantant with "You don't keep Goro he's not a main character" as they could get, to avoid a response like that.
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>>157981567
Speaking of meaningful interactions, are they all held together by Joker again? I remember someone saying Ryuji and Ann knew each other since middle school, but otherwise?
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>what gender is morgana?
>can pick bus
>tumblr will take this to mean that he sexually identifies as a bus
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>>157981468

He's basically a knock off Yosuke, who was unusually popular for some reason. So they just went "We'll just make the MC's buddy and initial party member a loud obnoxious asshole and everyone will love him because they loved Yosuke."
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What does /pg/ think of Xander Mobus?

Nintendo Switch P5 Port exclusive Smash Announcer voice pack DLC when?
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>>157981837
morgana tells you that he's definitely a guy even if you pick it

but i doubt that stopped any of the naoto headcanons
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>>157981837
No, anon, that means gender does not matter to him, he's LGBTWTFBBQ now
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>>157981890
Disliked the one of two lines we'll hear from him. Mute or dual audio desu.
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>>157981751
No.
They talk to each other in your group texts and mementos, but outside of it they really don't interact much neither do they hang out without you being there.
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>>157981890
god, this guy looks like such a beta. I actually wanna bully him and give him a wedgie.


he probably makes more and gets laid more than anyone in this thread.
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>>157981841
If hes the same then why isn't he loved like Yosuke? Stop trying to drag other characters in to justify Ryuji's shit characterization.
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>>157981890
Why does people even care about who voice the protagonist? He's the lease of your concern
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>>157981890
I think he's an awful pick for the Protagonist and shows next to no personality in his voice, while Fukuyama exerts charisma.
That said, I take issue with the voice direction, casting, and the lack of dual audio. Guy himself seems fine.

>>157982062
>le ebin english VAs get paid well meme
>le ebin english VAs in an ATLUS USA dub get paid well meme
pls
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>>157981726
Zestiria feels different from this though. It would be like if Ann was only a party member for Kamoshida's dungeon and then became a non-party co-op after that. Goro was barely advertised up until release along with the other three girls. I'm being serious since I'm also curious about this idea, but was there a similarly bad reaction to Shinjiro's leaving?
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>>157982123
touching sexy neet's sexy pussy
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>>157981726
I doubt Goro would've generated an Alisha-type controversy anyway. Alisha's a girl, and waifufags are nuts. Imagine if it was something like, Haru leaving or something.
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>>157982147
At least he just has to read cringy shit for some hours to make money.
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>>157981612
I said the exact same thing a while ago! Seems silly that try tried to keep it a secret.
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>>157982239
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>>157982201
>but was there a similarly bad reaction to Shinjiro's leaving?
P3's theme is death, and the game foreshadows Shinji's not being very sane so if you didn't expect him dying at one point you had to be pretty dumb.
>>
>"We’re excited to be supporting the Nintendo Switch and believe the games we publish are a perfect fit for the portable nature of the console." - Atlus
aka. no we're not putting jack shit on it
>>
itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte
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Silly neet spilling yogurt on herself
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>>157981890
I don't like him in the role, but I honestly don't know who else would be a good fit. Ray Chase (Noctis in FF XV) does a really good job at smug characters, but I'd have to hear him in the role to see if he'd be a good fit. Still, that might start more weird rivalries between XV and P5.

>>157982147
Yeah, I get no charisma from the line we have to go off, and considering that's one of the lines we'll hear the most, that doesn't speak well to the rest of the performance. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I always got a very theatrical and extravagant vibe from Fukuyama when he was Joker. Like he was high on life and was relishing every moment of being able to act cool, which matched the cockiness. All his lines seemed to be just a little over-embellished, but not enough to be off-putting.
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>>157981608
Besides being loud, impulsive and rude like I already said, he tends to react to bad things happening in a much more negative, emotional manner than anyone else (not only does this make him look immature, this escalates the situation more than once), he couldn't keep his voice down while talking over the phone about PT activities and that's how Makoto found out about them, complains a lot in general but grumbles about rotten adults in particular and after Ann and the other girls shut him down at the beach he complains (yet again in public) that he's not getting any puss despite being part of the PT, he called Morgana useless once Futaba joined and upset him to the point he temporarily leaves (protip: don't have a character do this to a character more popular than they are), has some obligatory pervert moments that people are getting tired of...

That's not a complete list but christ that's a lot to get mad at him about already.
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>>157982576
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>>157982576
>yogurt
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which p5 girl is the most likely to swallow joker's...yogurt.
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>>157983016
you
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>>157983016
You
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>>157982708
this all sounds like the kind of emotional gulf a kid from a broken home and a bad situation would have desu
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>>157983016
You
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>>157983016
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>>157983016
Well Anne's got like a dozen other men, Futaba's a smelly loser who wouldn't have the skills to even ask Joker for his "yogurt" and Haru's got her fiance. That leaves Makoto
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>>157982708
>he complains (yet again in public) that he's not getting any puss despite being part of the PT,
this is a valid complain though I mean come on
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>>157982708
Not his fault the cat can't take the banter.
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>>157983059
>>157983074
>>157983096
>girls in /pg/
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>>157983170
>Undercover vigilantism
>Wanting or expecting recognition
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>>157982256

Actually someone theorized that Haru was originally in the traitor role, and Goro was exactly like he appeared, a detective turned late game party member and that was it, but they figured people would be more angry about losing a waifu than a guy everyone thought was gonna be the more boring guy in the game anyway so they swapped her hidden issues into him.

As a result Goro became an overly complex character, and Haru has nothing to her outside her intro arc.
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>>157983276
>only girls can swallow yogurt
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>>157983307
>it was changed at the last minute!
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>>157983348
Post more of these please.
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>>157983276
Last month or so I remember at least two posting pics to prove they where Goro fangirls.
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>>157983307
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>>157983393
>Dojima was the real killer
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>>157983307
You people are fucking delusional
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>>157921756
>>157921913
too bad any time goro mentions justice it's all part of his farce and instead of having a nice interesting debate about the nature of justice we just beat him while being 100% right and him being 100% a crazy killer
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>>157983307
>overly complex character,
what
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>>157983423
Harus Harus
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>>157983307
There's zero evidence for this, and the plot would've had to go through a huge amount of rewriting if Haru was originally supposed to be the traitor. Don't just believe any blind speculation you've read, anon.
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>>157982256
I'm not a Tales fan but that situation depressed me not just because the devs handled it incompetently and the fans are crazy, but jesus, think of how much fear that fiasco caused among anime and game creators. The industry has probably been aware of their hands being tied for a long time now, but on the consumer end I'd never considered how much of a gamble it is defy expectations, so think of all the squandered potential of these mediums because they have to stick with a safe, marketable formula. This isn't to say that Bamco didn't genuinely fuck up, but the reaction was really disproportionate and they're still suffering for it.
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I really don't like how reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep
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>>157983721
Fuck you ho
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>>157983721
>>>/v/
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>>157983721
FGUCKING JACK OFORST
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>>157983497
Not really, you guys seem to interpret Goro as some crazy dude who just kills for fun and REVENGEE and that literally everything he says is a lie because you can't read between the lines that part of him is questioning himself.
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>>157983721
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>>157983721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5ii_ADmqU4
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>>157983809
>expecting /pg/ to be able to comprehend media
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>>157983904
>white piggus try to be japanese
>japanese try to be white piggus
please stop
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>>157983809
>that part of him is questioning himself.
that's nice. he was still wrong though, and without a chance at proper redemption his character suffers.
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>>157983960
fuck off she's cute
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>>157983946
Wow that art style is fucking awesome

>>157983809
I wouldn't bother trying to argue with him.
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I want Morgana to startle Futaba even more!

>にゃんこ!またおまえか!
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>>157983809
I don't think the anons posting that stuff care enough to want to understand his character past "hurr sociopathic murderer." Just ignore them.
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>2016
>no femc

Why is Persona going backwards
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>>157984095
@shinn_ueno
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>>157984079
>tfw my gf looks exactly like her

love it
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>>157983721
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>>157983918
/pg/ can't analyze writing to save their lives, its sad
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are we already getting into fujo hours
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>>157984180
pics or lies
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>>157984145
Because women don't want to play as themselves, they want to play as some random dude and have fantasies of him fucking other male members
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>>157983809

Well I mean he does show outright that his entire outward personality is a front, and then try to brutally kill you while laughing like a maniac.

Most of "Detective Goro's" speeches about justice ARE in fact a lie, because his actual sense of justice is killing people as part of a scheme to ruin Shido for not loving him enough.

I mean Haru's dad was kind of an asshole and arguably deserved his death, but did Futaba's mom and all those Traincrash have any meaning of justice in their deaths? Or all the suffering he inadvetently caused Futaba that nearly caused her to commit suicide herself? No he just killed them to advance his scheme.

Meanwhile he could have just killed Shido in the palace from the start if he really cared about justice for him. But it was all about his personal revenge and ruining him more than that.

So yeah Goro is kind of a crazy dude who cares more about revenge than anything else.
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>>157983089
He's definitely the kind of teenager who could exist in real life, especially with all the problem's he got, it's just that people aren't used to tolerating characters like that so it makes them seem really awful whenever you do get one.

>>157983170
Nobody gets recognition for things they do in secret, my dude. And the only girls who know he's a phantom thief are phantom thieves themselves, so of course they don't find it impressive.

>>157983232
Yeah I get that, but the scene made Ryuji out to be the bad guy nonetheless.
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>>157984262
But most guy want to play as a girl
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>>157984337
Only faggots and no one rightfully cares what they want
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You guys hoping for a "true end" are bananas.
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>>157984282
You should know how futile it is to talk about actual Goro with EOP fujoshits, they only care about headcanon Goro who dindu nuffin and was a good boy
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>>157984483
>They will blame Atlus US when he doesn't match their headcanon and how the Japanese one is the REAL Goro
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>>157984282
>Well I mean he does show outright that his entire outward personality is a front

Not really. Part of the point of his co-op and the Leblanc visits is that he lets his front slip around Joker, and it shows. You're thinking of how he acts purely during TV shows.

>and then try to brutally kill you while laughing like a maniac.
That doesn't happen. Unless you're talking about his second boss fight, and that's only because he's affected by Loki's 暴走のいざない at that point.

For the rest, maybe you should read through the last few threads? There's been a fair bit of discussion pointing out that he didn't entirely have a choice in his actions after approaching Shidou, because most of them were ordered either directly by Shidou or the special investigations department chief, both of whom have no qualms about killing people off if they go against them.

I'll agree that he could've handled things with Shidou differently, but emotionally immature teenagers don't tend to make the best decisions and by the time he found a different way to deal with things, he couldn't back out anymore.
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>>157984632
needs more evil grin
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>>157984386
Nozomi please get back to /smtg/
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>>157984282
But he doesn't laugh when he's killing you, he's only smiling. He's only trying to kill you when he berserks himself.
And his sense of justice is the same as the PT, as he says "I just want to get back at the adults that wronged me, mine's a pathetic grudge I carry" just that he chose the wrong methods and didn't have any guidance.
Haru's dad death was a setup, Futaba's mom might've died before Goro got into Shidou's bussiness, Nobody died in the train crash.
He cares about his revenge but he isn't a 100% sociopath crazed dude that literally only kills for fun.

Even the conversation the original post quoted has a lot of meaning to it
>>G: Originally, I was pursuing what's known as the "mental berserking incidents."
>G: One day, all of a sudden, people would change and cause wild accidents and brutal incidents
>G: ...Don't you think that's similar? To the "reforming" the Phantom Thieves do, I mean.
>G: [sad] ......

He brings this exact same point in his boss fight too. That "he only was getting rid of shitty people, how was that different from the PT"? Of course Anne says that he shouldn't compare the two since Goro killed them. But yet Goro is kinda pissy that the PT was doing pretty much the same thing he was doing but in the correct way he was supposed to.
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>>157984386
11/2
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>>157984483
and now the whole "goro eats cum every day" meme makes a little more sense
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>>157984648
>That doesn't happen.
he shoots you in the face in canon, not just in the bad end. and you claim others can't analyze writing, geez. he wasn't berserked either, that nigga was sober and conscious when he looked you in the eye and killed you execution style while killing an innocent guard who had a wife and kid.
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>>157984632
>pizza boy
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>>157984839
Maniatical laughter isn't the same as an evil grin nigga.
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>>157984291
also having just one character who acts and thinks like a realistic dirtbag teenager with a chip on his shoulder in a cast of really pretty idealized anime characters is gonna clash no matter what. you could make him sympathetic and understandable to the audience without softening his behavior, but pulling it off withing the structural and tonal constraints of persona would be tricky
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>>157983721
GET BENT FAG
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>>157984839
> ... killing an innocent guard who had a wife and kid.

I know this doesn't make much of a difference, since he didn't know (?) that the guard was an illusion, but... yeah, the guard was an illusion.

Speaking of which, I still don't really understand how that whole plan worked.
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>>157984180
>gf
top kek anon-kun
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>>157984839
No maniacal laughter in that scene. And the guard was a patsy, not to mention he only kills the cognitive counterpart of said guard because by the time that scene happens, they're in the palace again.
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>>157983721
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>>157983721
I don't need to because Immunity Cat, but you're clearly unloved, so I'll oblige anyway.
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>>157985075

>no maniacal laughter
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>>157984957

Yeah but he still killed what he thought was the regular guard without giving a fuck about him.

Goro might not be a crazed killer like Adachi and only kills if it advances his plan with nothing personal invested but he still clearly has no love for his fellow man and thinks nothing about killing people or the grief it causes others if it follows his agenda.

He's no different than Shido in that respect.
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>>157985276
Different scene. That's in response to Sae's behavior.

>>157985393
Again, the guard was a patsy.
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>>157985393
Why do you care so much about some random guard who wasn't even real.
The P1 crew killed a bunch of SEBEC goons and they're the heroes, did they think about their families and shit? Nah.
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>>157985393
... have you been hiding under a rock since last month?

>>157985276
>and then try to brutally kill you while laughing like a maniac

Okay, but he's not laughing like a maniac *while* killing you, which is what was originally implied. They're two different scenes.
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>>157985497

So what he's just assuming the guard they set up to get killed by him is a bad dude that deserves to get shot?

Bullshit.
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stop discussing persona and post femc
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guys his outfit literally says HERO. I mean look at this guy, he did nothing wrong. he couldn't harm a fly
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>>157985560

He's clearly enjoying one upping you and getting to kill you though.
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>>157985750
He like Adachi but more handsome
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>>157985610
...are you aware of the kind of people Shidou works with for that entire conspiracy?
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>>157985830
Yes, but he's not laughing, which was what that anon was implying, which doesn't happen.
He's not doing a higurashi-esque laugh while he's shooting Joker, he only just grins, that's it.
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>>157985716
I love FeMC's hairstyle. It's pure sex.

Too bad it'll never look as good in real life.
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>>157985716
What a slut
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>>157985610
The fuck are you smoking? The guard wasn't even REAL. He's just a product of Sae's cognitive projection, just like Joker. Hell, the said guard might not even exist in real life.
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>>157985931
> Well he's only a little happy at killing you.

That's not really helping your point here.
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>>157986054
lewdmind
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>>157986056
So when he shot the guard did he know he was fake
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>>157986056

He does. Sae even talks to him. Her boss did sent a real guard there for Goro to take his gun and kill. And in the bad ending he does just that.
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Gorofags are fucking delusional.

"Well in the good ending he doesn't actually kill that guy because it's a illusion so he's totally an ok guy."

Igoring the fact that just in the party, Goro ruined Haru's chance that finally getting a goo relationship with her father by killing him. Goro ruined Futaba's childhood and send her into a spiral of depression and self loathing and near suicide by killing her mother (Every time you see Futaba suffering during that arc, it's all Goro's fault). Goro was going to kill MC and pin all his crimes on him, letting him get away with killing countless people and killing a promising young man and sullying his name forever.

And that's just not counting the other people Goro caused misery too that we only know in passing. All the berserk incidents are his fault.

Goro is a fucking scumbag and a 100 percent villain. He deserved worse.
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>>157986418
SHE'S A ROBOT

SHE IS NOT LEWD
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>>157986582
who cares he is hot
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>>157927568
How fitting.

Vita is Futaba too, though they arent similar in the slightest
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>>157986697
>Mercer is voicing Yusuke

This is not going to end well
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>>157986582
Wakaba died years before Goro got involved with Shidou though?
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>>157986075
I wasn't making a point, I was only trying to correct him that Goro wasn't maniatically laughing WHILE killing joker, that's it.
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>>157986582
>Goro wronged my waifus

No wonder you're so mad.
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>>157986642

I care anon. He made my waifu sad and for that he must suffer.
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>>157986582
thanks for quoting my post there hahaha
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>>157983721
I hate you
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>>157986842
Waifufags, not even once.
I bet he believed the Makoto is canon bullshit and the other girls aren't dateable bullshit too.
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>>157986418
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>it's a "people who haven't played the game pretend they have" episode
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>>157986582
>Goro ruined Haru's chance that finally getting a goo relationship with her father by killing him.

That was ordered by Shidou and the special investigations department chief. Okumura being targeted by the PT at all was also set up by them (and Shidou's cronies posing as Medjed), by manipulating the ranking for who the PT should reform next. If you're going to blame someone for that, blame the right people.

>Goro ruined Futaba's childhood and send her into a spiral of depression and self loathing and near suicide by killing her mother (Every time you see Futaba suffering during that arc, it's all Goro's fault).

Ordered by Shidou, and the bulk of Futaba's self-loathing didn't come from her mother's death itself but the fact Shidou sent his cronies to blame Futaba for Wakaba's death and guilt her into thinking that Wakaba resented her.

>Goro was going to kill MC and pin all his crimes on him, letting him get away with killing countless people and killing a promising young man and sullying his name forever.

Also explicitly Shidou's (and the special investigations department chief's) plan. You can make a point about Goro being willing to go along with a plan like that, sure, but we see later that Shidou's perfectly willing to threaten him if he goes against his orders even slightly, and if how he starts acting at Leblanc after that plan starts and how he acts in a few of the scenes afterward is any indication, he's not entirely on board with it.

>And that's just not counting the other people Goro caused misery too that we only know in passing. All the berserk incidents are his fault.

The berserk incidents didn't start until half a year after Goro met Shidou, and Shidou's shadow outright says he's the reason Goro started using his powers in that way. It's still shitty, but it's not something he would've done without Shidou's manipulation.
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I'm not joining any Goro discussion without having played the game, but a translator anon said Wakaba died about 1 year and a half before the events of the game. So Futaba's depression is something recent.
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>>157987097
I can't wait until Yu and his shitty game are worse than dead / forgotten. P5 cant come soon enough
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>>157987014
Shut up nerd I would have played the game if I know japanese :(
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>>157987209
Don't worry, they will come back for P5A
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>>157987292
I can't wait for Goro and Potter to dock dicks to defeat some ancient evil
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>>157986801
No, she died two years before Joker's interrogation, which is half a year after Goro approached Shidou. Later scenes make it clear she was killed the same way as Okumura's father, too.

It's nowhere near as simple as that anon's making it out to be, though.
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>>157987189
Was it Goro that killed Wakaba or Shidou himself?
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>>157987367
Futaba acknowledges it was Shidou's fault, are you going to say that the neet is wrong?
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>Wakaba

Sounds like a guy's name
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>>157987367
Goro. Shidou can't enter the palace.

Shidou was the one who ordered for her death, though, and he's the one who arranged for everything else surrounding her death (stealing her research, blaming Futaba for her death, guilting her into thinking Wakaba hated her).
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>>157987341
How is that supposed to happen when they didn't find Goro's body?
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>>157983721
melon faggot
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>>157987292
the Kitchens will be there too right?
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>>157987342
I haven't been able to play the game, but, from what I've been seeing Goro didn't start using his powers until half a year after he met Shidou. If he met Shidou 2 years before the interrogation, wouldn't that make her death half a year before Goro started doing the berserk stuff? Sorry, I'm just a little confused here.
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>>157987195
she did say she graduated from middle school properly
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>>157987486
I hope at least Kanamin will. Sumomo probably quit long time ago
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>>157987367

The implication seems to be Goro started fucking with her shadow, and Wakaba realized this and commited suicide rather than risk him making her go berserk and hurt Futaba.

Still it's mostly Goro's fault, even if Shido ordered it, he didn't have to obey.
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>>157987524
Goro met Shidou two and a half years ago. Wakaba's death (and the start of the berserk incidents, which was around the same timeframe) was two years ago.
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>>157983721
jokes on you
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>>157987195
She finished middle school and only went full hikki before high school, so around the same time as Potter came to town
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>>157987584
So Kanamin and Rise show up in P5, but not a single butterfly does?
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>>157987684
>he didn't have to obey
Nice meme
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>>157987486
>those designs
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>>157987752
There is Lavenza butterfly
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>>157987752
There are two butterflies: Lavenza, and another blue butterfly that shows up when you use a revive skill. I don't know if that's also supposed to ber her or not, though
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>>157987684
>he didn't have to obey

And he will get killed for that.

The problem is why Goro even approach him in the first place and reveal the potential of The Palace power. He could've just use the power to torment Shidou and could get a sweet revenge on him personally without risking innocent bystander's life.
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>>157987189
>we see later that Shidou's perfectly willing to threaten him if he goes against his orders even slightly, and if how he starts acting at Leblanc after that plan starts and how he acts in a few of the scenes afterward is any indication, he's not entirely on board with it.

Here's the thing though. Shido has no actual power. Goro does. Goro can say "I'm not doing it fuck off or I'll kill your shadow instead" Any assassins or such Shido threatens him with Goro can hide from by going into the Palace, and kill their shadows.

Goro could have stopped this at day one by just killing Shido's shadow from the start. Instead he willingly goes along with it all because of his ego and desire to publically ruin Shido as revenge for leaving him as a kid and getting public reconition as the guy who brought him down.

Goro has no moral leg to stand on, because if he was willing to forsake his plan to ruin him, Shido has no power over him.
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>(You)'s
Thanks, hee-ho, I've become stronger
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>>157987827
So no Philemon then?
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>>157987189
>seriously replying to a baiter

But one thing I noticed that was interesting. The game wanted you to think Goro is a villainous traitor if you just play up to the bad end, culminating his murder of the protagonist along with evil smile. However everything afterwards reveals that Goro was literally a puppet/victim of the bigger bad Shido. And the game explicitly tells you that over and over again. The PT all understand that even though what Goro did was unforgivable, Shido is even more of a scumbag and their real enemy.
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>>157987684
No, he just killed shadow, same as Okumura.

>Still it's mostly Goro's fault, even if Shido ordered it, he didn't have to obey.

Shidou's the kind of person who threatens people into going along with his orders, and he has both the political power and the connections he needs to act on those threats if he wants to. Even if Goro wasn't fully on board with killing Wakaba (and it sort of sounds like he wasn't, since he has to rationalize it with essentially "she wouldn't have had to die if she'd stopped her research when told to"), it's unlikely that Shidou would've let him go against his orders.
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>>157987928
Goro wanted fame and fortune, too. It's why he still fights the PT even though they're both after Shidou; everything he's worked for for the past few years would've been for naught.

What I find weird is how a single cognitive existence was able to supposedly kill him even when he was somehow able to fight the entire PT twice.
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>>157987953
>Goro can hide from by going into the Palace, and kill their shadows.
Not everybody gets a palace, you need to have a strong emotion towards something to get one so unlikely some random assasins would have a palace. They'd be on some shit like mementos.
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>>157988006
No and it's a god damn travesty.
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>>157987953
>Shido has no actual power.
But he does? He's a boss you fight, you know. In the palace, where Goro's powers work. Not to mention the fact that he has a shit ton of connections and political power.
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>>157988006
nice, almost didn't see it
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>>157988083
What I find weird is how a single cognitive existence was able to supposedly kill him even when he was somehow able to fight the entire PT twice.

He was exhausted and out of juice after fighting PT, especially the amount of power he used to summon Loki.
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>>157988057
>The PT all understand that even though what Goro did was unforgivable, Shido is even more of a scumbag and their real enemy.
That's what I don't get about these shitposters, the game makes an effort to drive that point to hell and back. Hell, we even have the scene where the PT is all talking to him translated.
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>>157988097
So that butterfly isn't him?
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>>157987953
Unless they had a palace of their own, no, he couldn't have, since it's questionable if he had access to Mementos (and even if he did, you need to know someone's full name to be able to find their shadow there). Hiding in the palace isn't safe either, as it's dangerous to be in and even just going there once is extremely tiring, who knows what staying there for more than a few hours would do.

I can agree that Goro's revenge plan was stupid, petty, and caused more trouble than it was worth, but I don't think killing Shidou's shadow is as easy as you're making it out to be either. We're talking about one of the most durable bosses in the entire game there.

>>157988057
Hey, it's a chance to get more information about the game out, baiter or not.

And yeah. There's clues even early on that Goro's just being used as a puppet, but it's after Shidou's involvement is revealed for good that the game really starts emphasizing it and just how vile Shidou is.
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>>157988517
They just want to shitpost about Goro because they can because talking about Goro makes everyone wake up and make /pg/ active.

>>157988525
It's him. Lavenza is clearly a blue more fancy-like butterfly.
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>>157988517
That's why they're shitposters. They don't like a character and would magnify or twist his flaws.
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>>157988640
I guess, I don't even like Goro but it's nigh infuriating seeing people be so blatantly wrong. Though, that's probably their goal.
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>>157988640
>Shitposting about Goro saves /pg/

What have we become.
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>>157988604
Goro's plan for revenge is probably so convoluted is because he wanted to feel accomplished and well liked.
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>>157988090
>>157988604

If Goro could specifically target anyone Shidou wanted killed or berserked then he had to have access to Mementos or something similar.
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>>157988517
Well... All of this wouldn't happened if Goro didn't approach Shidou and offering his power to be used.
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>>157988908
Probably. Evidently didn't work out the way he'd hoped, since he's pretty unhappy with how people view him.

>>157988920
I think he had access to Mementos too (probably thanks to Yaldabaoth), but he'd still need the full name of someone to be able to deal with them. Shidou could easily send someone whose name he doesn't know after him and he wouldn't be able to deal with them that way.
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>>157988250
Also, I can't imagine it'd be very hard for Shidou to get an opportunity to kill Goro irl.
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>>157988889
Could anyone have foreseen the amount of shitposting and discussion this one character is now capable of generating, way back before the release?
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>>157988057
>The PT all understand that even though what Goro did was unforgivable, Shido is even more of a scumbag and their real enemy.

That doesn't mean Goro gets to get away with it and should be forgiven though. He still willingly did wrong even if someone is worse than him higher up.
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>>157988930
Goro didn't even start using his powers until half a year after he met Shidou, it's not like he came out of no where and said "hey I can do this let me help you you crazy motherfucker." Pay attention.

>>157989137
Who the fuck has said that ever? Every time we have a discussion on Goro it's usually been "this kid has done a lot of shitty things even though he was manipulated into doing them by someone with power over him." I've always seen people say he deserves to repent for his actions(which he should). An explanation is not an excuse. I've seen absolutely no one say "Goro dindu noffin" and even then literally anyone who says "(villainous character) did nothing wrong" is just memeing.
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>>157989137
Well that's why he sacrificed himself. After his plan is screwed and no other way to fix it, he's too tired to go on anymore and just want to die to end his own suffering
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>>157988930
He only approached him to get him out of the scandal he was dealing with. I don't think he expected Shidou to direct him to use his powers to kill people or cause incidents (beyond similar situations to the scandal thing) at the time.

>>157989054
Yeah, no doubt. With the amount of influence Shidou has, he could've easily had him offed (and was planning to do exactly that once he was elected as prime minister, anyway).

>>157989137
Nobody is saying that, though? Of course he did awful things that shouldn't be forgiven, but there's a difference between treating him like he's some 100% irredeemable sociopath who acted purely on malice and at least acknowledging that he was being used as a puppet and got stuck in a really shitty situation.
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>>157989469
>and was planning to do exactly that once he was elected as prime minister, anyway

Little disappointed there's no bad ending epilogue that shows this happening. Might as well.
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>>157988908
>>157988930

I think this is the main dispute about Goro's character. He wants to be recognized and loved and be accomplished, therefore he made the terrible decision to get revenge on Shido, and did terrible things to go along with Shido's plans. I can see why people think he's villainous.

On the other hand, his whole life as an unwanted child drove him to make his terrible decision, that along with Shido seeing through his intentions and used him like a puppet to the max. Who knows what Yaldy told him when he certainly wasn't told to go connect with people like what he told Potter, maybe even the opposite.

Goro's flaw is a desire to be loved and recognized. Bascially, haters hate him for the same thing people love him for. It's pretty interesting.
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>>157989585
>Bad end plays as normally
>After credits scene is Goro getting out of the police station getting shot from behind, wondering what happened only to realize he got betrayed too
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11472469
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>>157989698
>After credits scene is Goro
they can't show that as all the bad ends try not to give away who shoots you.
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>>157989469
>I don't think he expected Shidou to direct him to use his powers to kill people or cause incidents (beyond similar situations to the scandal thing) at the time.

This is the impression I got as well, personally.

>>157989769
>they can't show that as all the bad ends try not to give away who shoots you.

I think he meant the bad ending you get after the Casino
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>>157989618
He's the character you either love or hate, but, people treating him as if he's some sociopath who ran purely on spite and his own free will are like, blatantly wrong. Not liking him is fine, everyone has their differing opinions on characters. But, at least acknowledge that the dude wasn't exactly on board for all of this.
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>>157989698
>not Shidou congratulating him then doing pic related just to rub it in
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>>157989769
If you messed up and got the bad ending where Goro shoots you in the face, then there should be no problem showing him being offed unceremoniously by one of Shido's mooks.
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>>157989769
You're thinking of the game overs for failing to meet the dungeon deadlines, not the actual bad endings.

They probably can't show that for the first bad ending since it's before Shidou's involvement is revealed, but it would've been neat if there was a third one for messing up when dealing with Shidou's palace while Goro's still alive, maybe expanding from the game over sequence for that dungeon.
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>>157989863
Yeah I'm just trying to have a semblance of a sensible conversation here. A lot of people I saw HATED his guts after getting the bad end but ended up liking him after finishing the game. The only people who stay hating Goro are otaku waifufags, extremist Potter fans, and/or fans that have some kind of shipping agenda.
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>>157989378
>I've always seen people say he deserves to repent for his actions

I thought it would be kind of interesting if they made a Persona game where you play as someone who hasn't really done great things and neither have your party members, and the point of your "journey" is to try to repent for what you've done by doing good in the world.

IF they actually did a sequel that also didn't have to do with the timeloop/palace inside a palace shenanigans, I think it could be a neat idea.
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>>157990123
Forgot to include this, but it would also give them a reason to keep using the "phantom thief" themes as well

this is kind of what I hoped P5 was going to be, but apparently the PT seem to literally make no wrong decisions throughout the entire game
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>>157990123
>a protagonist with a backstory
get these crazy ideas outta here
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>>157990553
We will never be so lucky.
Doesnt SMT even stick to the silent blank slate self insert model too?

Maya doesnt count
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>>157990375

Well they do get a little too overconfident in their own hype and constant victories, which leads to them going for Okamura even when they start to second guess themselves when Principal dies which in turn leads to the Conpsiricy setting them up.

They manage to recover from that in the end though.
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>>157990553

We actually sort of have that with Potter. Or at least his backstory is he's on probation because he tried to save a woman from getting raped, which lead to Shido screwing him.

Same with Makoto and his parents dead because of car crash and dead getting sealed inside him.

Really the only character that's completely blank is Yu, who's just "His parents are busy" and that's it.

Oh and I guess Piercy who doesn't even get that much.
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>>157990695
Flynn and Nanashi sorta have backstory considering they're reincarnations of important characters from the games backstory.
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>>157990695
smt is (typically) less character driven than persona
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>>157990897
Also Tatsuya, who *actually* has a full-on backstory, compared to some of the other protags at least
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>>157990695
Tatsuya?
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>>157990695
Maya is just the reverse of characters like Tatsuya and Tamaki being written as full fledged characters when they're not player controlled
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>>157991072
I hope P5-2 will give a Phantom-kun a personality?
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>>157991290
in p5-2 the igor ending is canon and you play as punished morgana hunting joker
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>>157991035
Tatsuya is still a silent protagonist.

>>157990897
Makoto's parents being dead isnt backstory, its an excuse to send him to a dorm. Its the same story with Yu, just more grim.
Aigis sealing Death in him is also just there to make the player the hero in the end.
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>>157991420
Tatsuya still has a full on backstory and a speaking role in EP.
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>>157990987

Well yeah, but that's because they set him up to be a full fledged character in EP.
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>>157991490
>in EP
exactly. Not his game.
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>>157991382
It's actually kind of funny, since it's like we're playing through Goro's Yaldaigor ending from Joker's perspective.
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>>157990897
backstory was the wrong word, but yknow what i meant
characterization, motivation, personality that informs decisions beyond player avatar-ness
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>>157991290
If they do another Arena (and it's a pretty safe bet that they will), they'll probably treat him like a regular character there, same as Yu.
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>>157991550

Yeah but even in IS it's revealed that he objected to locking Maya in the shed, tried to stop them and got caught up in the fire and tried to bury the past like everyone else.

It's also shown that he's a problem teen, and his brother frets about him and there was the incident with his father in the past.

We learn nearly as much about him as the other leads, even when he's silent.
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>>157991686
>>157991686
>>157991686

NEW THREAD
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this is just an observation i've made as an outsider who doesn't participate in discussion here, but...

it seems like goro is the only character worth really talking about on a deeper level? i don't know if this is because he's less straightforward than the rest in terms of morality, or because he occupies a role in the story that makes him controversial and polarizing, but any time i come on here i see people discussing his motives, narrative and personality, and that's more than i can say for most of the other characters.

so i guess whether you hate him or love him, there's a lot to say about goro.
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>>157991979
he's the only character lacking proper closure
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