/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

>>157842734
remove the cats from the op, they are both dead

repost from previous bread.

>working on a project now
>have so many awesome ideas
>nobody to discuss those or start a project with
>programmers friends are faggots that find excuses to not get involved.
where do i find dev buddy that won't mark zuckerberg me?

>>157842935
Depends. Are you the idea guy?

>>157843050
>>working on a project now
so no.
i'm currently 1MA in my project.

I just want someone share the same passion as i do.
even if the game idea never left brain storming phase.

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am I a meme king yet

>>157843196
are those fucking ngons on the front bumper

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>>157842935

> implying you are sitting on the next facebook

I spent many years sitting on my ideas thinking they were going to make me a million dollars. I didn't share them or test them out.

Turns out they were all shit.

Ideas are only great in your head until someone tests them. Even Zuckerberg only developed Facebook through trial and error.

The biggest issue is you are the best expert on your idea, if someone steals it they are only shooting themselves in the foot.

Furthermore, there is literally nothing stopping you from rebranding and improving the idea and beating whoever stole it. In fact, someone stealing your idea is probably the best thing that could ever happen to you.

I put all my ideas down. You can read them all at fleettacticalcommand.com

Good luck making them work without me though - because even though I've put them out there - 90% of the implementation is in my head.

So stop sitting on your ideas, share them, throw them out there and let them get pressure tested.

It is the only way to success.

>>157843169
What engine/language?

And share your idea with me friend, you can trust me not to steal it or my name is not Stein Goldberg.

>>157843196
MDE reference?

>>157843448
coincidence

could be cool to have a lowpoly sam come and fuck the cars

>>157843448
we know so much about modeling, it's funny if we wreck it

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where are the mecha games?

>>157843567
How do you stop it just being about pressing the fire button after a lock on

>>157843196
You'll never be a meme king until you become as cool as store.steampowered.com/app/343150

>>157843327
when i mean mark zuckerberg me,
i don't mean making money then kicked me off.

I meant half way through the project, kicked me off the boat.
also, someone that won't just get bored half way and quit.

I just need someone that i can trust, passionate and can together sit through the project.

>>157843691
Have you ever played the good Armored Core or Mech Warriors? Heavy Gear 2?

Question: is anyone else out there tired of pixel art for amateur indie games? Is it just easier to work with for programmers?

>>157843776
Yes and Yes

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Does this seem like fun mechanic?

>>157843746
>I just need someone that i can trust

Trust is something you build in time. You can't just advertise "looking for someone to trust". So remove that off your list. For starters just look for like-minded people. If after being together for some time you can trust them, great you succeeded. If not then just repeat until you do find someone.

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>>157843567
>>157843691
my trump game has got you covered

>>157843834
It'd be better if he got stuck on them Dark messiah style

>>157843896
does it have a sexual predator mode

>>157843931
Yeah I'm planning to do that.

>>157843834
Seems cool to me.

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>>157843980
you could call it that

>>157843691
Add weapons that don't have lock on. Add counter-measures to lock on based weapons.

>>157843896
Can you tell me how you achieved that camera embedded in the screen inside the mecha?

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>>157808383
>>157822616
>>157809802

Quite a bit late but whatever lmao. I just wanted to say that I can't draw at all and I really enjoy the pre-rendered look games have had.
I have dedicated my whole art-life to mastering this aesthetic and am having pretty good results so far.

>>157843567
I just want a mecha game with lots of customization. I wanna be able to choose to make a mecha with humanoid legs, chicken legs, spider legs, wheels, tracks, propellers etc

>>157844139
very simple

Make a new camera. In the "create" menu of unity, pick Render Texture. On the camera you just created, look in the camera or transform component for "render target" and select the render texture you created. This tells the render texture that whatever the camera sees is now its texture. You can then apply the render texture as a material on whatever you want.

>>157844268
>I have dedicated my whole art-life to mastering this aesthetic and am having pretty good results so far.

Made any games with it?

>>157844272
You're in luck, that's my dream game, so I'm gonna make it one day! I'll give you a free code in 10 years when it's done.

>>157844324
Oh wow that really is simple. Thanks a lot man,

>>157842935
>programmers friends are faggots that find excuses to not get involved.
Programmer here, I'll bite. What's your skillset? Don't forget that I too have ""awesome"" ideas so I hope you're not just an idea guy.

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Here's the stats I ended up with. Now I have to figure out how to register an llc or an s-corp...

>>157844396
you can also use them to make innacurate "it works fuck it" mirrors

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>>157838840
>Instead of doing what I asked you went and took a different anons advice which ended up being the exact same advice I gave you.
Not at all. What I made looks absolutely nothing like the reference pictures you sent me (pic).
You asked me to make it look like Front Mission 3, which has low-key colours, flat gradients and little detail. And you asked me to do that after I was about half-way done with this.
I then said I'd do a second version after I was done with this, because I think the Front Mission style would be fairly easy to emulate (much easier than what I made).

I don't think I'll be doing that after all, though.
You don't seem to appreciate how much work this is, and the fact that you're not "working together with a stubborn artist" - I just made something for you, no strings attached.

Good luck with your project.

not interested good luck though

>>157844470
Jeez, people weren't joking about the attention drop off after the initial upload.

>>157842935
>programmers friends are faggots that find excuses to not get involved.
Programmer here. I have "idea guy" friends who constantly want to "partner" with me. Let me tell you first-hand how annoying it is. I have my own projects I'd rather be doing, other than slaving away at someone else's "idea." I don't blame them for not wanting to get involved.

>>157844353
Soon friend. Soon.

>>157843834
Go full Bulletstorm and develop a combo mechanic involving environmental kills.
If you don't, at least make the enemy stick to the spikes if they were the killing blow damage dealer.

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>>157844536
You only showed me it halfway done, you didn't ask for any input at all. I do appreciate how much work it is and that's why I told to take a look at front mission stuff (and its the kind of art I was imagining) because you were putting a tone of work into the front of the ship. You then dismissed my input and took the advise of another anon which also suggested that it was too busy. I also said that I liked what you were doing but it would be better if you found a compromise between the two.

You're right I wasn't going to use it in my game, not because it looks bad but because I'm looking for something slightly different. It looks better after you changed it and I was beginning to consider it.

I'm teaching myself to code after teaching my self to 3D model, rig and animate and the image I sent you with the texture is me teaching myself how to do low poly pixel art. I know how much work it is.

I didn't mean to offend you, learn to take a compliment. It's ok if you don't won't to work on it, I would still like you to though.

>tax bs
Forgot about that shit.
What do I do as a Canadian if my game makes money?

>>157845690
>A FUCKING LEAF
Move out

>>157845690
Look into the tax situation for small businesses, make a company, check if there are any tax exemptions/relief for creative industries

>>157844272
I'm working on one now. Although it might not be exactly what you're hoping for. It's a top down Bullet Hell MMO similar to Realm of the Mad God

>>157843196
No because you can't finish a game

>>157843834
nuh

>>157843196
>>157843834
>>157843896
>>157844065
>>157844268
awful progress, just give up.

>>157843834
You should either:
A) Have him get stuck
B) Have him bounce back towards you.

I don't like the flat drop down.

>>157846693
Isn't that what the doctor told you mom when she was pregnant with you?

>>157846716
>>157845327
I already told in >>157843989 that I'm going to do that.

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>mfw i buy an asset once a week
it'll be worth it in the end..r-right

>>157846832
Nah, that's what your mom said to your dad in bed.

>>157846906
>buying assets
killyourself

>>157846961
Maybe she would if she was still alive.

>>157847128
it's not even related to my game.

it's just an editor extension that helps make managing custom inspectors easier. I could have spent a week doing it myself, but I really want to work on other stuff in my game and it was only like $10.

im pretty sure you spend $10 going out to eat

Weapon swapping is in. Pretty happy with the result not being able to swap weapons while reloading is normal right?
I'm probably going to spend some time making models, I'm getting tired of these boxes.

>>157847595
Depends on the game. CS:GO for example let's you switch weapon anytime although the reload won't finish.

>>157845690
>What do I do as a Canadian
You're fucked, there's no LLCs in Canada. All the options are shit.

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>>157847595
Shit I keep forgetting to attach the pics.
Disclaimer: I know nothing about guns

>>157847142
Don't worry, you're dead to her too.

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I forgot that entity brushes still have baked lightmaps that don't also match when they move.

For a situation like this, I think I'll have two sets of pillars - one for each lighting environment - then swap them behind the scenes when the player isn't looking.

>>157843834
Stealing this

>>157847273

Assets make short work of complex problems.

My game is extremely AI heavy. I bought about $300 worth of assets, most of it scripts and modules that would have taken literally years to make myself.

Asset store is a great thing for fast prototyping.

>>157847762
Terrible. What the fuck even is this awful shit?

>>157848242
What are you making this in? Minecraft?

>>157847762
Neat

>>157848294
Thanks.

>>157848429
I wasn't complimenting you dense little shithead, no wonder you can't tell your game is fucking shit.

>>157847595

Ex-Naval Officer here.

If you are reloading and you need to draw a sidearm quickly, you just drop the gun and the mag and draw. Rifle is always slung and there is always more ammo, you can always pick up the mag later.

Nothing wrong with weapon swapping during reload.

>>157847762
Your uzi should be holding more rounds.
It looks like 18. You should have 20 minimum, but 32 would be better.

>>157844065
i feel bad for you trump meme devs, theres no way you can keep up with him.
if you released today it would be "where's the pussy grabbing?" by the time you get that feature in there will be some other meme.

>>157848395
My own engine, but I load compiled Quake 3 maps.

>>157848549
Not to mention that those games will be long-forgotten when he loses.

But I guess that's what it's like to make a meme game.

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>>157848513

>>157848549
>tfw if trump wins we'll have another era of shitty punk music and try-hard comedians ranting about republicans, and now meme games too
The Bush presidency tried to warn us...

Can i get some opinions on this early dev trailer pls

the music is placeholder (it's from bomberman)
And youtube hasn't done processing yet so it's still stuck at 480p.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbALUfrwW1Y&feature=youtu.be

I'm pretty disconnected from video games nowadays. Do tooltips follow the mouse cursor while hovering over the object's radius, or do they spawn in a place and stay there?

Windows seems to do the latter. Which do you think is better?

>>157848647
well memes and dreams die, that's the process
but having your memes and dreams tied to a golden anchor that's about to have the rope cut cant be pleasant

>>157845679
>You then dismissed my input and took the advise of another anon which also suggested that it was too busy
I didn't dismiss it. My reply to that email was "I see what you mean". I then redid it when I felt I had more surrounding stuff to match it with.

Good luck with the learning.

>>157848707
I still interpret that title as a call to kill all rodents of unusual size.

>>157848662
le smug anime girl

typical

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Yes! Finally!
I ended up needing to set a variable that detects if the block is at the top of a list or not, and if it is you're able to jump over it.
Now I can finally work on gameplay now that collision is good.

>>157842218
I can't wait to play Feet Tactical Command!
jokes aside I'll buy it when it's released

Can someone point me at a decent 32x32 blood splatter animations?

opengameart kinda-sorta failed me.

>>157848931
he's not a girl

>>157849046
Or, failing that, a nice sprite-making tutorial.

>>157849173
You're not a man either, I don't judge.

>unity asset store
>all those people buying assets coding scripts
I really should start selling shit over there.

>>157849046
Why do you need an animation?
It's often just done with particles and decals.

>>157849276
Neither does your mom

>>157849324
Oh, is that right? Hmm.
Uh, got a good particle editor for Love2D?

>>157848707
Pretty good job, but I'd fix some things: the starting text could last 5 seconds less and look better if it was the two sentences slowly fading into the screen like the logo at the end.
Some cuts are too long IMHO. Others should be taken out completely. Take 0:22 for example, it looks way anticlimatic, you could portray the scene as more active if you only put in the jump and backstab moment. And start mid-jump when he turns the fire on.
Overall for just visual impressions and monotonous music (even if placeholder) and no voice over, a trailer like this should last 45 seconds or barely 1 minute. Fast fade to black, Endorous logo, skull shakes two times, done.
Put yourself in the mind of the average Greenlight voter. Is he going to stand 1 minute and 30 seconds to look at somebody run and jump or much less while looking at something frenetic and more visually pleasant?

>>157849402
You should be grateful, that's the only way pencildicked machildren like you can ever get laid.

>>157848940
Hey anon, it's the dude that helped you earlier. There's something I forgot to mention. I was testing different collision cases when I was doing the debugging, and the code as you have it right now might not work correctly when Simon collides with the bottom of a block when jumping upwards at it from below. It shouldn't be a hard fix, but it's worth being aware of now, since it's probably an issue that'll crop up sooner or later. My bad for forgetting. Keep up the progress.

>>157849453
Particle Designer is great, and it exports to GML, but I don't know about Love2D.

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how do I overcome the feeling that I will die alone, being a failure with only shitty games and nobody giving a fuck about me.

>>157848293
i just consider it like contracting a programmer to add a few things to my game. sometimes i dont even plan on using the asset. I just want to look at the code and re-purpose it for something else.

>>157849309
you should.
I believe someone on agdg made this, since i remember them posting mocks up and such.

https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/11786

>>157848707
stream of conscious....
text writing out needs to be quicker (as text writing out needs to be). the music is shit, wheres the sound effects? that attack animation is terrible. something doesnt feel right about the dashing (might just be lack of sound effects or it needs a camera motion or something). alot of these shots hang around too long for the quick action trailer this is trying to be. these are playable character profile? enemies? too hard to parse what the profiles is about, shouldnt be in the trailer. the title at the end should be slowly zoomed toward with the skull zooming more than the rest of the word so it can overtake the screen.
and i meant to say this the other day but the title of your game is shit, endorous? enderous? it's neither a real word nor a cool word.

>>157849904
Thankya, I think I'll manage.

Just so I'll know tho - any good sprite tutorials?

>>157850047
For blood decals specifically?
There are gorillions of tutorials out there, but there's a huge difference between pixelart stuff and higher resolution sprites.

>>157849906
Finish a game, and release it.
SOMEONE will like it.
And they might be your friend.

Otherwise, we're all your friend, as long as you're making a game.

>>157848853
Thanks, its going to take a while but i'll persevere.

It would be a lot easier if I could get someone to do that stuff instead. Sure you're not interested?

>>157850201
Nah, for 32x32 sprites in general.

>>157844065
What are u going to do after he loses? Still release it?

>>157849906
i come from the dg2 (the dota 2 general) and i can say that you get better with the years! The last biggest tournament, got some of the oldest players of the game in a good position, after playing the game for like 10 years they got a good position in the most important tournamet of the year ($20,000,000 dollars prizepool).

This art streamer is good to twitch dot tv slash visualjamie, she has been practicing art for 7 years and now she can do many things, currently doing watercolors. She was doing some spray art the other day and it looked pretty cool.

If you want to make good games, you need some years of practice (7~10).

>>157850603
just name it "THE WALL: LEGACY"

>>157850603
like Trump he can just say he was being sarcastic

>>157850603
like Googum he can just say he was being sarcastic

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>>157847273
>>157846906
>literally just found a much better alternative on github, for free
>is even more feature rich

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

https://github.com/vexe/VFW

>find a nice library
>finding a binding for your language
>no instructions whatsoever
>figure out how to build it
>link it with my project
>crashes
>figure out i did something wrong
>looks like in the example the dev provided
>rebuild in debug mode
>find the issue (null pointer dereference)
>find out that nowhere the main lib "Init" function is called
>bind it myself
>same shit happens
>turns out a specific function that's not related to initialization (which is supposed to allocate that memory) needs to be called in a very specific place for it to work

i hate programming so much

When animating in gimp you only put the images in layers when you're ready to animate, right? Until then you're pretty much working with six copies of the same image, tweaked to the animation

>>157849813
thanks anon! Yeah, I haven't added any ceiling checks yet, but I'm sure that won't take much time to do since I have all of the other sides in check.

>>157844470
did your game get greenlit just recently?

>>157851854
>animating in gimp
Why are you doing this to yourself?

>>157843834
It should not screen shake when it hits the ground, nor should that do damage in my opinion. Other than that I like it.

>>157852154
GOTTA WORK

WITH WHAT I GOT

>>157852289
Even then Krita is probably way more animation-friendly than GIMP for the same price.

>>157851791
>Last updated 4 years ago

Yeah anon, I'm sure it works well.

>>157849690
Thanks, this all sounds like good advice.

>>157849949
You of all people can't talk shit about names gogem, your name is gogem. Other than i'll take your advice with a grain of salt.

>>157852450
I used to use my original name until I got doxed by some nodevs.

>>157848707
First 5 seconds of a trailer are most important. You spent 15 slowly scrolling text. If I wasn't on agdg, I would not even watch the rest. I didn't even read the text because I also don't care, nor does anybody else watching a trailer. Give me a reason to care and I'll read shit later if I do. I actually really want to stop already, but I'm continuing.

My advice to you is completely remove the text intro, and compress the entire thing to 30 or 40 seconds. It's redundant after a while.

Love the logo by the way. Don't do that shitty pixelated version.

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>>157852420
>8 months ago
???

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>>157852426

>>157852516
Didn't you literally post your address here so we could mail you some dragon dildos? Why are you afraid now?

Does anybody want to collaborate, to make a game?

Would need C++ programmers. Probably just one. Engine will be built on SDL2. Game will be a 6 month dev cycle. We could collaborate more if you are dedicated after that, and if we make money together.

>>157852679
Mind you if you go to his website you can find all his info there.

>>157852740
>Would need C++

GO AWAY

>>157852740
Good luck not interested

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Is this game a fucking meme?
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/470890/

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>>157852740
>C++
>Make engine
>SDL2
>6 months

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>>157852740
>SDL2
> 6 month dev cycle

>>157852883
Where is your game?

>>157852936
whats even happening with no mans sky now

>>157852740
Why did you pick SDL2 over SFML?
I'm currently learning SFML, did I do wrong?

>>157853051
Nothing

>>157853052
Yes, you should be learning Unity/C#.

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>>157848623
>My own engine
Hearing this is a music to my ears. Could you tell me more about it? OGL? DX? What do you use for model loading? Assimp or your own parser? How do you do collision detections? Will you have a demo out for DD 11?

>>157853051
I priced it at my store yesterday, and it dropped for $80CAD to $60CAD

I had a hearty laugh, but at $20 it might start being worth it.

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>>157843834
>yaranaika sandbag

>>157852883
Well for 2 bucks, is not that bad. Now search for "Marcianito GO" in google play, thats a meme game.

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>>157853169
I don't even know why I chuckled

>>157852740
It's sad that you got memed, but your announcement is pretty vague. You say SDL2, which is ok, but it doesn't tell much. Would you use OpenGL? 2D or 3D? Why 6 months?

>>157852936
>>157853043
Have any of you ever actually written a 2D game engine starting with something like SDL2? I already know the answer, but seriously, try stepping beyond your meme territory sometime.

>>157853052
You didn't really do anything wrong. If I recall correctly, SMFL is written in C++ and more object oriented. For libraries like this, it's better to have simple C libraries, especially if you plan on implementing parts of them on other operating systems that are not supported.

I could be remembering wrong, but SFML has a 2D library based on OpenGL too, does it not? If it does, that's better than SDL2's, which is software based, but the renderer will be written from scratch anyway. (A lot less impressive when you realize it's just a basic renderer though with no lighting at all and a simple "diffuse" shader with a color channel.)

>>157853506
>Have any of you ever actually written a 2D game engine
Yes.
My reaction remains the same.

I'll see you in 5 years.

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>>157843834
>those combos and new animations
>even a yaranaika punching bag
This game is becoming way more DMC and I love it.
God damn, you're making the exact type of game I want to make but can't because of animating.
You're making me want to git gud.

>>157853203
fuck i can make more than that shit game for $20 every copy

>>157853449
I could elaborate more if anybody is interested at all.

>Would you use OpenGL

Yes

>2D or 3D

2D. Very simple renderer. No lighting because I think lighting in pixel art games looks like shit, and it's better to just use detailed pixel art. Minnimal shader effects if any.

>Why 6 months

It will be a small game and the scope should be able to be finished in 6 months of work. Doing a 2 year project starting out with strangers and no promise of pay is a waste, but it would be good to make something more substantial than a time frame like a month would allow.

6 months allows for enough time to make a marketable product while remaining a reasonable deadline to work for nothing.

When should I be using the different events in game maker? Could I just use step events the entire time if I wanted to?

>>157853705
You can do it Hexun, I believe in you!

>>157853786
Why make your own engine if you want money?

>>157853675
Well I have also written a 2.5D engine professionally combined with tools, and I can assure you if it takes you 5 years to make a non general purpose engine for a game, especially with things like image loading libraries and SDL and the like in existence, you were either learning starting from zero or flat out retarded.

>>157853705
I thought this was a beat-em up? is it a platformer now or does this beat-em up just have platforming elements

>>157853675
>I'll see you in 5 years.
It doesn't take even a year to make a 2D engine.

>>157854024
He said he wants parkour and Invese Kinematics in his game, yes it will take him 5 years.

>>157854024
It takes less than 3 days to get a bare bones "2D Engine" going.

Yet somehow not a single engine dev on agdg is remotely close to being done.

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Made a shitty bed. It was better in my mind.
Oh well.

Added reload text and fixed a couple of UI things.

>>157853843
Thanks anon

>>157854009
It's not a platformer now, I just wanted levels that are more interesting since it was just flat ground before. Basically like Muramasa where you can jump around but the focus is still on combat.

>>157854239
A bed for ants!

everyone's an expert on how long something will take until they actually try to do it

>>157853705
>can't because of animating
why not just go the spline route.

>>157854284
Well I'm a professional developer myself, I have worked in big game like No Time to Explain, so I do have some decent idea of how much time he will take.

>>157854127
What?

>>157853860
Because I want money. Game engines are not free.

Unity is not free and you do not get the source.
Game Maker is not free, you do not get the source, and it is poorly designed.
Unreal is not free, but you do get the source, but is not designed with 2D games in mind.

Then going and auditing random engines that are free is a waste of time when the task at hand is simply not that complex.

Let me ask you, and this is to all the people responding >hurr engine, what do you think an engine is?

Do you think I have to make a generic editor, a ECS, 5 rendering paths, navmesh editors and the like?

I don't need any of that. I will not be making any of that. Making the underlying system and tools, because they are specific, will be quick and easy. (not to mention the tools don't even have to be C++)

Please just write out every system you think it takes to make a 2D engine. It's not that many subsystems.

>>157854284
loli sim dev
>4 years so far

that alien space game
>3 years so far

maid game
>3 years so far

now ask yourself are any of those games close to being done, or how feature rich they are. all of them can be easily replicated in an engine in have progress in half the time

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Made steerable clouds

>>157854415
No Time to Explain was originally built in flash and the developers were very inexperienced programmers, so I hope you at least worked on the remake.

>>157853506
yes it is possible to use SFML as a minimalist window system in order to use OpenGL

>>157854386
Fuck maybe I should just try that.
How would I do animations where body parts rotate a lot? Like say you were spinning or something, you can't really do that without redrawing.

>>157854592
Most people here in general don't finish their game because they are lazy, so using a smaller sample size and saying "see, they aren't done!" isn't indicative of anything. I can even counter with games not affiliated with agdg, written in C++, that are all finished and did so in reasonable time, for multiple platforms.

>>157854509
>Unity is not free
It is free up until you make 100k in sales, at which point you'll have to pay a measly fee.

>Because I want money
Then you're in the wrong field.

>>157854727
yes, you can use SFML has an OpenGL context

>>157854592
>maid game
>>3 years so far
Most of that time was spent getting better at art, using an engine would not have changed anything for me.

>>157854727
What I meant was I thought SFML already had an optional 2D rendering system that was kind of okay, versus SDL2's which is not really good at all. I could be wrong, last time I looked at SFML was a very long time ago.

>>157854509
If you are so "smart" you need Unity's source code to make a simple 2D game, then you might as well make your own engine alone.

>>157854909
it's pretty ok. I've been maining SFML for a good while, and I'm pretty happy with it.

>>157854851
did you study CS in college?

>>157854627
who?

>>157854790
>It's free up until 100k in sales at which point you pay a measly fee.

Are you high? It cost around 3 thousand dollars. 3 thousand dollar is 3% of 100k. Also, that's per seat, meaning its around 6%. Also, it's before taxes, which means you are realistically taking it against 60-70k, which means it's 8-10%.

Why am I going to give 10% of my earnings, assuming I only earned 100k to Unity?

>Because I want money

This might surprise you but you can make a decent living off of indie game development as long as you don't go in expected to be rich, which actually makes things like "3k per seat" matter a lot to you.

Unity's entire, actual business model is to appeal to mobile developers who are going to have 10-50 people on a team and make a good amount of money in the space. What is it offering me exactly that I couldn't make myself in a reasonable time frame? With a team of 5 people, it would cost 15 thousand dollars for it, and for 15 thousand dollars, I can easily make my own 2D engine that has all the functions necessary.

Not to mention if you actually use Unity rigorously you will know it's full of bugs ( that you cannot fix without source access) and fundamental design flaws you have to fix (like input) which means you are not even free from engine development.

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Thoughts?

>>157855223
No I'm self taught, started programming in high school.

>>157855287
I'm not sure what's going on

>>157855079
Yeah, then no reason to switch.

>>157852450
my name isnt gogem
and you can do what you want with my advice i dont care, generic action platformer isnt going to make it no matter how good the advice is.

>>157855273
You are completely delusional, you will never make money with that mindset, you are probably just an ideaguy gone mad.

>>157855287
I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to see.

>>157855287
I can't tell what's happening, or what's supposed to be happening.

>>157855287
I think what I see might be cool, but I can't tell for sure.

>>157855415
I currently solely make money off of developing video games through contract work and indie development.

Sorry if knowing basic math and having actual experience makes me "delusional."

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That fat n-gon. Do I even need to care though? It will literally never be subdivided. Could it produce strange lights maybe?

>>157853175
>OGL? DX?
OpenGL.

>What do you use for model loading? Assimp or your own parser?

I wrote my own parser for the IQM format (http://sauerbraten.org/iqm/). It's used mainly for open-source games.

> How do you do collision detections?
Trace through convex geometry. For maps, I walk the BSP tree and collide against brush planes. For everything else, I calculate planes from either triangles or bounding boxes and do the same thing.

> Will you have a demo out for DD 11?
Probably, but you can see my demo for DD 10 here: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-10/rate/84470

>>157855587
What's wrong with it?

>>157848242
>using baked lightmaps

Don't do this senpai, use dynamic GI

>>157855530
This thread is for amateur game developers.

>>157855587
Are u crazy anon?

>>157855587
If it's totally static and flat then it doesn't matter at all.

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pls rate.

>>157855715
What's the point if his lights are static?

>>157855845
Why does it stutter (:14)? Why does it barely react (:42)?

>>157855697
It wasn't originally a bunch of triangles so I'm thinking maybe i should make it a bunch of long rectangles instead.
>>157855779
Not much, u?
>>157855837
Cool. I guess it's always possible to go back if something would turn out wrong anyway.

>>157856156
Because he's using Unity to draw a square, a circle and a rectangle so he's paying a debt for all of the unused overhead.

>>157856156
because you need to do it fast.

maybe I should clamp the value.

>>157856265
>It wasn't originally a bunch of triangles
Yes, yes it was.

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So this is version 1.0 of my game, you shoot bullets using a hammer and fight against spooky nightmares.

Who else mmo here?

>>157855257
They've posted before anon. More than once. Just isn't as frequent a poster as some of the more recognizable ones.

>>157855273
Where are you getting 3% from?
Unity Plus is $35 a month($420 /yr) if revenue does not exceed 200k
Unity Pro doesn't have a revenue cap, but is $1500 a yr.

>per seat
Doesn't fucking mean anything if you're the only person programming the game.

>test game
>game freezes
>immediately remember I didn't put i -= 1 at the end of a while loop

I wish I'd remember that beforehand. Guess I gotta condition myself to add that immediately whenever I initialise a while loop.

>>157856445
me, writing a scalable chat backend in elixir atm

>>157855905
Why make a game engine with static lights?

You might as well use the quake engine then.

>>157856401
Fair enough

>>157856550
>not just while (i--)

>>157856413
is this a vr/vive game?

>>157856550
Do you know about for loops?

>>157856413
Are you having fun stealing progress from reddit?

>>157856635
Unless you want to play around with engine source, sure.

>>157856650
Everything is triangles in 3D. Except the nurbs thing.

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>>157856702
>while(i--)
>While it is possible to deincrement i, keep doing this thing
>do this thing until you get a stack over flow

>>157856810
Can be played with or without VR.

>>157856876
do this until the variable reaches 0* you memer

>>157855665
Thanks for the detailed answer! I'll read about those.

Keep up the good work!

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Can I start making money yet?

>>157856702
I work in Godot. Its scripting language is so advanced it has cleaned itself of such ridiculous operators.

>>157856814
I do. I also know that the bigger my 2D array, the worse they perform compared to while loops for some reason I'm not CS-undergrad enough to know. I also really dislike their use in GDScript and try to avoid them where I can. Queue frustration about my inability to remember the i -= 1.

>>157856943
If it goes subzero I get stackoverflow.

>>157856943
>suggesting 0 means false in every language
while this would work in C/C++, many languages don't treat 0 as false, as such this isn't a very good practice.

It is a much better practice to put a boolean test for your loop, as it aids in readability.
If your loop is going for a set number of loops, a for loop is generally a more readable option.

>>157857205
it cannot go below zero because the condition will terminate the loop when it reaches zero
unless you started with negative value to begin with then yeah

>>157857205
Well it can't go subzero if you only decrement i in conditional expression.

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>>157855587
Holy fuck, what the are you doing?

>>157857205
>If it goes subzero I get stackoverflow.
It can't go below zero, that's the point

>>157857313
the issue is signed ints can absolutely go below zero. while(i--) is not a one size fits all, or even a one size fits most piece of code.

It's just not a very good idea.

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So are there any music making guides out there aimed at complete retards who want to make tracks for their own vidya and own one of pic related and FL Studio?

I feel like I'm kind of gimped having a keyboard that only has one octave on it but I can't possibly justify buying a better one right now. I do have an acoustic guitar though.

I swear to christ the Internet is full of these fucking dudebro faggots who wank their dicks over dubstep and house music, so that's the majority of shit I find. Fuck these people and anyone who likes that garbage.

>>157857493
that has nothing to do with the variable being signed or unsigned
under no circumstances will that make the value go below zero IF it's not been below zero to begin with

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>All these people using while loops
>90% of my loops are for each loops
>dat for(Object o : collection)
Feels good man.

>>157857412
How do I make small meshes?

Anyone need a programmer? I can code pretty well, but I've never made a game before.

Please reply

Well, I told myself if I couldn't make pong in a month I'd kill myself
Today's the day I kill myself

>>157857412
Well that's still an n-gon which will triangulate into pretty much what I have unless you change the topology.

>>157857696
it absolutely can. Because it doesn't use a boolean test, and considering the scope of i can be anything in that example, it's not a safe bet. i can be changed in the loop itself, possibly skipping 0, a different thread might modify it, if it's signed it can start below 0, and depending on language, it might just not work at all.

It's stupid.

>>157857904
Depending on your timezone you may be able to turn out 1 to 20 Pongs until the day has ended.

>>157857762
>90% of my loops are for each loops
>using loops
>not using only recursion

>not using gotos

>>157857882
>but I've never made a game before
sorry, come back when you have a minimum 4 years experience.

I don't have time for you to spend learning the hundreds of algos, optimization techniques and theory of designing games.

>>157857904
>couldn't make pong in a day
What are you trying to do?
Why couldn't you make pong?
What are you trying to do to make pong?

>>157858036
while recursion can be clever, it's usually less efficient. If it can be done with a loop, the loop is the better idea.
Also,
>iterating through a collection recursively
For what purpose?

>>157856576
Interesting choice. What are you using for the frontend?

>>157857656
>knobs and pads
noice
whats that nuke launching joystick on the topleft do?
>I feel like I'm kind of gimped having a keyboard that only has one octave on it
i wouldnt worry because A) you surely have some sorta octave slider on that thing and B) youre not playing live anyways right? shifting notes in post isnt a big issue or splitting up your takes.

>>157858140
>sorry, come back when you have a minimum 4 years experience.
Ah, the catch 22!

>>157857994
>a bool will automatically fix all that
k

Could anyone tell me how to in game maker pick a random spot on a mp_grid for ai to move to? I'm creating a mp_grid at level start so all enemies can use the same one.

>>157858178
c++/ogl for the game client
c++/lua for the game shards
electron for the launcher/updater/etc (just a simple prototype to test out the backend though, might throw it away and use qml instead because webdev a shit altho it allows for some fancy stuff)
elixir again for sessions and store

>>157858348
actually yes.
>while(--i < 1)
is much safer. Still has issues, but for any given value it will eventually evaluate to false.

>>157858030
>>157858169
Haha thanks for the (You)'s faggot, got u good

>>157858574
Ok, then show us your pong game.

>>157858483
Well hot damn. You're definitely a step above me in terms of implementation. Looking forward to some nice progress posts.

>>157858647
I don't have one. I'm a nodev, just not a suicidal nodev :^)

>>157858648
not really, it's mostly a side project that i put very little effort into and don't have much hopes for, i dont have much done either, a bunch of code here and there but nothing playable yet, more like basic foundations for what i want to do

>>157848940
You making a classicvania? I love you.
Kinda makes me want to go back to the one I started but never finished.

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>>157858809
Oh, that's fair then.
Why don't you try to make one though? It's actually pretty satisfying. :3

>>157858809
Oh. In that case,
Kill yourself.

>>157854627
This is really cool!

Have you ever played the lost vikings?

>>157858874
Oldschool Castlevania is terribly under-represented these days.
If you can, I'd say do it!

I'm so excited to hang out with my game this weekend you guys :)

>>157858503
What if i is actually a 12 hour clock and not a integer? --i with i=1 would be 12 and you would never get out of that loop

If your game doesn't satisfy muh dick, then what's even the point?

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Fake 3D is best 3D.

>>157859251
if it's a 12 hour clock object then you wouldn't be using it in that way anyway.

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>GTX 1080
>2x 4k 30'' monitors @ 144hz
>$200 monitor mount
>$200 mech keyboard
>$1k wacom tablet
>32GB ram
>250GB M.2 SSD
>Large desk
>White board
>5TB + UPS

Is this maximum 1ma dev?

>>157859348
Except you know that's actual 3D.

>>157859348
what's fake about that?

>>157859471
>>157859507

Those are flat sprites you silly.

>>157858967
its kinda autistic to admit, but debugging/adding new features does feel pretty good

that rush of dopamine after fixing a major bug in the middle of the night

>>157859441
Unless you're doing state of the art 3D, you don't really need that hardware.

>>157859471
It's not actual 3D. It's several layers of 2D sprites that create a voxel look.

>>157859557
>>157859602
Source?

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>>157857337
>Well it can't go subzero

>>157859576
im making a 2d pixel game

>>157859441
>spending that much money and skimping on the SSD
>850 Watt
still jelly af

>>157859628
No I'm using Unity.

>>157859190
Totally agree.
Thanks I'll try to go back to it while resting from my main project.

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>>157859557
the main characters and enemies? they're quite obviously not 3D to the point you couldnt say theyre faking it

>>157859441
Solid choices. Got a 1080 and the same chassis. Never loved my PC so hard before.

>>157859765
The level too, it's stacked images

>>157859765
gogem you really are dumb aren't you? Look at the webm again, it's honestly really obvious.

>>157859859
well the foliage obviously is, but thats not even weird for full 3D games. you trying to say those houses and telephone poles and cars and boxes arent modeled?

>>157859996
That's correct, everything is sprites in that webm, there's no 3D models.

>>157860087
Stop lying fag.

>>157859348
>>157859727
I am absolutely in love with your game, if you need any help let me know.
my strenghts are in this order
sound effects
low poly
textures
writing
music

>>157860198
Shut the fuck out nigger

>>157860087
well that's either bullshit or so much z-sorting/redrawing effort that you're retarded for not just modeling it
so... bullshiter or retarded?

>>157860173
It's pretty easy to create a pseudo 3d effect. I don't see why though when the same result can be achieved using shaders and such in 3D.

>>157860198
>being this dumb and thinking it's his game

>>157860198
Hey contact me my dude, I need someone who can do music [email protected]

>>157860173
>>157860293
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAJ-tyiUVag&t=2410

>>157860198
sorry m8

>>157860198
Hey my email is [email protected]

>>157860426
>made in game maker

ENGINE DEVS BLOWN OUT YET AGAIN

>>157860426
>gamemaker
retarded it is

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Daily reminder that you have to learn to draw to make your game look good.

Taking photosourced textures and chopping them up and scaling them down just looks like blurry shit. You should be handdrawing all your textures. As long you can hand draw textures and have good lighting, your game will look great despite low poly counts. Shit textures on a high poly model look like shit. Great hand-drawn textures on a low poly model never age.

>>157860576
Where's your good games?

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>>157860745
>you have to learn to draw to make your game look good
False
Google Restricted RPS

>>157860796
put my post name into your address bar

>>157860426
>"i still dont know what direction to take [this game] in"
being an enginedev in gamemaker is the most extreme retardation ive witnessed in a while and i feel sad for him
given this video is a few weeks old i assume his artist must have left him by now.

>>157860989
i know people hate on googem but his art isnt necessarily bad. it definitely has a style to it that makes it unique

its much better than some of the pixel art games you see here thats for sure

>>157860989
>Gogum art

I would rather kill myself.

>>157861074
emphasis on
>good

>>157859425
You don't know that

>>157861074
>put my post name into your address bar
I said good games.

>>157861093
His art is literally Tumblr art with less polygons.

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>>157861135
no ones stopping you.

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Made more level

>>157859064
Nope

>>157861275
Why don't you go back and finish your Trump game? ;)

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>>157860989

>>157861519
youre thinking of someone else

>>157859348
the enviorment is giving me day z feels

keep up the good work

>>157861582
>I will just pretend I wasn't making art for my Trump game

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So I've made some movement changes and added a special ability to Jetpack Surf.

Also my discord account got deleted somehow.

If anybody wanna playetest you can come to the new server.

https://discord.gg/ycd9Y

>>157862010
are you talking about whip the vote? i finished that last year.

>>157855587
Haha, oh shit, this is like that programming diploma-meme, but for graphics.

>>157855587
yeah,it works but...

You guys told me reddit was a terrible place, but they're way more helpful and knowledgeable. wtf.

>>157862807
>but they're way more helpful and knowledgeable. wtf.
Sure if you're making bad mobile games

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>>157862807

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Revisioned my debug command code. Before (top) was everything in a giant if elif else tree with the conditionals being command = "a_certain_string", resembling a switch case.

Now I made each command a function and simply check whether or not the debug object has a function called like that and execute it.

Makes the code more legible and maybe 4% shorter.
Why do I not want to code gameplay? I thought I was making a game?

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Why do so many PS1 games look "wavy"? Look at the floor boards, or the wall borders. Why couldn't devs draw straight lines?

>>157863070
It's a stylistic choice. They busy your eyes with flowing, more natural looking curves to distract you from the cold mathematical sharpness of polygon edges.

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>>157862807

>>157863070

Its how it rendered by the PS1 engine.

If you look at the texture it is probably straight.

>>157862807
i think you're in the wrong place then friendo.

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>>157862446
>>157862593
Would this be better then? It's the same as before just prettier edges and more vertices.

>>157863070
PS1 was just shit at rendering 3D.

>>157863070
The PS1 snapped vertexes to integers while rendering, so the rendering wasn't very precise.

>>157863405
NO. NO.
STOP.

That whole flat face should be 500 vertices, nigguh

>>157863405
No, do what >>157857412 says. You don't have to attach the big prism to the small ones.

>>157863070
integer vertex positions
You can emulate that by clamping in a shader

>>157863628
Oh I see, that makes more sense than the image.

>>157863067
Use dictionaries.

>>157861478
Your game reminded me of it
Something about the clouds and slow scrolling
But the spinning in the tubes and jumping from springs made me think of Sonic

>>157857065
Make the flying saucers ignore the turntable.

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>>157842734
I'm somewhere between mediocre/decent at sketching doodle characters, and I have no scanner.

How do I turn doodles into cute game assets?

Also, is there any decent free animation software? If not I'll still with gimp but gimp can be obnoxious if you make mistakes with layers.

>>157864197
Can you elaborate what advantage that would give me?

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Does this zombie look okay?
Guess why the head is a separate mesh

>>157857656
Well you could learn some things from dudebros, fedora man

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A lot of you guys are still photosourcing textures.

Stop that. Hand drawn textures never age.