Final Fantasy General CCCXV - /ffg/

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>RK is dying
This joke is already old. I don't even play it anymore, but it was clear that stuff like RK is still going to be kept going.

>>157796317

>FF Record Keeper
>Game Mechanics PDF: http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf
>Upcoming Banners List: http://bantha.org/~dscotton/ffrk.html
>Friend Codes: >https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yjUI0AwTAoBxuZlGQQZfaEQMnNt2bUdzm0gMZHXq4Cs/edit#gid=0
>FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/gGK2VYhe

we dont need this anymore

xth for Lawrence and his based Cecil

>>157796558
Why are people doomsaying rk now? Was there some news I'm not aware of?

>>157795353
>>157795519
>>157795661
Why?
Could someone answer me why those 3 are posted every single thread?

Join me in pouring one out for RK, niggas.

>>157796654
The western branch of DeNA is shutting down permanently.

>>157796689
just leave

>>157796654
Company is closing, bro.

>>157796654
Something about the devs daughter company shutting down developing for the west even though it specifically says that stuff originally from JP is still going to keep being available to the west, like RK.

>>157796689
yes

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>>157796317
>CCCXV

>Dena global closing
>apparently this means RK is dead because Dena JP can't handle it for some reason
>let's completly omitt the cases where japanese devs were also the ones localizing/publishing the game to global audience

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Is anyone going to email DeNA and ask if it'll affect RK or not? I'm gonna do it, and post results of course.

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>>157796831
Nobody said that.

DeNA said it could still outsource development for some projects in the future, but the team of faggots we all know from RK are without a job right now.

RK is ded.

>>157796831
That was never said.

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17th for Gentiana (best girl)

>>157796992
>Dear loyal customer,

>Thanks for concern you. Servers will remain open if raising of fund goal is meeted. Please buy mythril, kupo.

>Signed, the Record Keeper team.

>>157796654
>>157797175
>>157797250
What was actually said.

>"The West market will continue to be a market of focus for DeNA, but the company will shift the strategy for this region towards collaborations with external partners rather than doing game development in a local studio."

DeNA Global doesn't even develop Record Keeper.

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Well, FFRK was fun. Got to solo this ult++ fucker with Celes from 33% down. so are we gonna do some sort of priavte server?

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CECIL
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>>157796317
What is this? An OP image for ants?

>>157797747
cecil clinton

>>157797747
Why does he have rocks in his hair now, anyway?

>>157797747
Reminder if you didnt pull a cecil in BE you may as well quit the game because is a must for future content

>>157798064
They're beads,

A boy's gotta look his best.

When does the Cecil banner end? Wondering if I should risk another hard pull.

>>157798131
Friday, like all banners. At around 1 am PDT.

Then we'll get the spoopy halloween banner with halloween versions of the main characters

>>157798219
Thanks.

>>157796042
Always pull on the rate up banners, there's never a reason to pull on the regular banner unless you want trash

>>157798219
Oh look, a banner to full on avoid.

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>mindless mobile games
We don't have sonic temple run and you don't see All the Bravest discussion here, retard. RK and BE show up because whether you like it or not there is a bit of depth to them (even if a lot of it is calculations and shit, that is on-topic to final fantasy general)

now that we have that out of the way
>SONIC
>COMICS
>DEEP
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA jesus christ holy shit you got me good there anon, i needed that laugh

such is the power of the sonic fandom...

>>157798487
well, they're global exclusive characters but are also 6* capable

chances are they'll be at least okay, probably better than their 6* OG forms

>>157798590
whoops forgot my quote >>157795593

>>157798487
Actually, it's looking like they might be overpowered as fucc.

But is it worth it to sacrifice nostalgia for Spoopy Shulk, Scary Samurai, and Frightening Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?

Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.

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>Brave Exvius crashes whenever I pull now

which one of you recuck keepers hacked my shit
and goddamnit its a fucking russell

>>157798691
>Actually, it's looking like they might be overpowered as fucc.
Lemme guess, 5* bases, right?

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>>157798590
>even if a lot of it is calculations and shit
This, I'm only here for the math and math-related autism.

Here's hoping this turns out to have some kind of mechanical depth so I can overanalyze it too. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't stay up til 4 AM arguing with other anons about how my waifu is mathematically superior.

>>157798805
I've always wondered vaynefag, do you have a JP account with all of Vayne's stuff too?

Where do you go from here? Where's the fallback?

>>157798805
what did he do right?

>>157798920
Demon Rain and Dracu Lasswell are 5* -> 6*, White Witch Fina is a 4* -> 6*

>>157799296
wait where are you finding info about these guys?

>>157798920
Fina is the 4* base and most likely Global's first 6* healer. Only Costume Lid sucks because she's a Lid.

And I don't think they will be limited time units if the Swimsuits are to suggest so you can draw them anytime after the next banner expires.

If you want to get anything on the banner, go for White Witch Fina since an 11 pull gives you a shot at getting her.

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>>157799429
They were datamined. It's very likely we'll get a Mog King event where you need to farm candy corn.

In all likelihood, it'll start on Friday and go for two weeks.

>>157799296
Oh good, the one I'd care about I have a chance to pull

>>157799439
Why on earth would you 11x pull on this?

>>157798987
THIS will be the RK killer

>>157799654
how can you kill something that is already dead?

>>157799654
Yeah, probably because it'll drain so much power from your phone you won't be able to play both.

>>157799630
If you like Donut steels or want to collect everything/whale. 6*White Witch Fina is global's first 6*Healer though with likely Curaja/Raise/Cheer/MP Refresh so that she is now better than Lenna. And being 4* base means that you get at least one shot of getting her with the 11 pull.

>>157799594
Good thing I am getting my A-Team up to spec. Just got Garland to max 5* and now I am working on Kefka. Then next will be Rosa and Mustard.

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Why isnt this half price?

>>157799180
No, no jp account. It never would have been worth it unless by some unholy chance global actually does shut down, because I never would've been able to gather enough mythril to have a reasonable chance of getting all of his relics in time.

>>157799201
Everything lad, we've been through this before. Can you name even a single thing he did wrong?

The title is wrong OP.
Put /ffmgg/ in the title.

>>157799991
11 pulls don't give a guaranteed base 4* in global, they just give a guaranteed 4* in general.

>>157800000
Only the realm pulls are half from now on. In exchange, you can pull on this awful banner an unlimited amount of times.

>>157800015
>some unholy chance
>they literally shut down because RK couldn't turn a profit
lol

Although I'm gonna be rerolling in JP starting now. If I get any Vayne accounts, I just wanted you to know you don't get to have them.

>>157799991
11x doesn't guarantee a 4* base.
Even then, I could live without her if my daily pulls don't work out.
I'm saving my lapis as best as possible.

I miss arguing about whether FFXIV should be allowed
I miss the frog posters

What happened to them?

>>157800084
>>157800198
Yes, but that's still one chance to roll her even if right now the gold can drop 3*bases.

It sucks for me that I will likely have to drop at least 5000 on Thursday to pull for P.Cecil since I haven't got him from either tickets or the daily.

>usually get no summons, maybe 4 on a good day with my Minwu RW
>suddenly today had 16 summons
holy shit people are hurting today

So what would be a good RW to help out in this nightmare dungeon? Medica? Sheepsong?

>>157800304
nah don't worry senpai you'll get him on the daily draw tomorrow. trust me.

>>157800304
yeah but for the cost of that 11 pull you could do like 20 daily pulls

they're seriously not worth it in global

>>157800179
>Implying
3/10 bait, right topic and good targeting gets you points.

>>157800445
yes

How serious are the nightmare dungeons when they say you're going to want to bring Raise? I got Aertih's Reraise relic, is it worth leveling her for this?

>>157800456
Highly unlikely to happen to me given my poor luck as of lately...

>>157800478
P.Cecil is worth the 5000 to me since he is needed for later content. All I have for that is a Toblerone/Mad Clown Mage God/Avatar of Chaos. The rest of my unit inventory is all junk units...

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>TFW no GF

>>157800743
>Highly unlikely to happen to me given my poor luck as of lately...
i expect a (You) tomorrow when you get him

>>157800304
>Yes, but that's still one chance to roll her even if right now the gold can drop 3*bases.
That's beside the point.
11x pulls aren't worth it unless it's the last day of a banner and you REALLY want something on it.
I don't have a Cecil and I don't intend to 11x pull this banner anyways, even if my last two pulls don't pan out.

>>157800743
>complains about luck
>has lightning
fuck you

>>157800015
the invasions for shitty dusk shards

>>157800670
Maybe

>>157800743
>Complains about luck
>Has the current best unit in the game
>Meanwhile I've yet to even pull a rainbow

>>157800843
How was that wrong? He needed to get to the shards somehow, and getting them when they were in an entirely different and hostile country would've been essentially impossible, especially without attracting notice.

>>157800670
Pretty sure that even someone that is revived with reraise loses buffs, so usually it's not going to save you anyway. The heal on her SB is still useful if you don't have another good medica, though.

>>157800838
Later content is going to require a tank. All the offense in the world doesn't matter if they all fall quickly.

Plus I like Odin so having the Toblerone and Cecil together would be nice(though Toblerone gets Odin since he is an offensive physical attack based Esper). Gotta stay away from any Seifers though as he will likely one shot them both.

>>157801080
I have weird luck with me. Sometimes I get good luck like with the Toblerone, but other times I get awful luck like my current streak.

Though my dad is in the hospital right now from complications from his heart surgery so take that as how my luck varies...I also have terrible self-esteem as well.

>>157801403
t. blogger

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>>157801403
nice semi blog post

Why don't you sacrifice your dad to the RNG gods to boost your gacha luck?

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So now that the dust has settled, what is the consensus on this game?

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>>157798590
I dunno man, I think it's pretty good. Writer for it seems passionate about it too.

>>157801738
I'm not so cruel as to do that for some luck. I will soldier on through this and pull the 5000 if I have to in order to get P.Cecil...I'll probably have enough to do 2 11 pulls when Thursday rolls around, though hopefully I don't have to after the first one.

Besides the Toblerone falls off anyway until she gets her ability enhancements which is far off.

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>Get Freya's Six Dragons SSB
>Use it twice to see EnWind effect on the SSB
What the fuck, I love Freya now

I haven't done actual nightmare fights yet, just the ones leading up to them. Do you have to only use attacks related to the nightmare? I haven't touched them thinking I'd need hones and dupe skills since I get by with r3ish stuff and SBs in everything else

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>>157801872

>>157802187
Cute comic

>>157802458
They're all gimmicky as fuck, and the skills themselves are worthless and unusable for the foreseeable future

>>157801872
It's not even out yet

>>157797747
>>157798081
I just started playing like a week ago, I haven't pulled Cecil.

Is it over for me? I've got 2700 Lapis I could spend if I have to

>>157802948
spend it NAO

I already have 3 Cecils

>>157802948
I think you still have at least another day, so don't do it yet. Blowing some extra lapis would be a small price for picking him up, though. Given how random the rolls are, you still can't be certain.

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>>157798987
>japanese only
>going to have to wait 2 years for localization as is custom

>>157802948
Oh wait, the banner said until the 21st.

>>157801389
>don't have another good medica, though.
ive got porom hastega, minwu instant, lenna res+ and divine guardian. game love sthrowing me medicas, just wondering if there's ever gonna be a use for shitty reraise lol

>set up switch control to automate my TM farming
>check back after a couple hours
>barely any increase

How long is this going to take?

>>157803648
The only time I could see it being more useful than those is for instant death bosses as insurance after resist accessories fail. Usually bosses that kill with damage will just kill the character that was reraised again before you can heal fully and get mitigation back up.

>>157803812
a month

literally

>>157801872
I liked the demo. I really didn't expect anything from the combat, but it was surprisingly good, the basic menu is shit tho. Hopefully the fps won't be so bad in the actual game, the demo had some real drops on the Vita when changing from chibi to normal body.

Once I see how the actual game performs on the Vita I will decide if I will buy it or not.

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>finally pull cecil
>urge to keep him at 3* till i can get his LB to 10 before awakening

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So how good is the Pictlogica Yuna card? Is it just whale bait? I am tempted to experiment with using 2 of them(once you have the one from the pack, you can buy another for 5 ability tickets from the shop) together with berserk and faith in my mp healer deck.

That's a 35% heal with esuna every 2 turns along with increased life orb draw.

My only concern is that the lack of barrier combined with berserk could cause some of the squishier jobs like assassins to get murked from full health in one turn.

>>157800478
Even in JP, no especially in JP they're not worth it.

You have a 19% chance of getting a base 4* there on ANY pull.

That means there's already a 91.58% chance you'll get a 4* crystal in 5000 lapis worth of dailies.
You're trading 9 more units (and a 53.3% shot at another 4*) just to raise that first probability by 8.5%

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>>157802187
>>157802628
Freya-a-cute!
A CUTE!

>>157804528
why do you keep him at 3*? what happens to LB if you awaken before 10?

>>157804991

Exp to level lb goes up massively at higher *

>>157804991
All LB levels carry over when you awaken. So ideally you want to max out his LB levels per each awakening and only have to do 5 levels worth of LB grinding at 6*.

Though eventually we will get the giant burst pots that give 300 LB uses a pop.

>>157805173
Yikes, does it pass on when feeding to same unit?

>>157805336
Nope so if you do get two Cecils, then awaken the first one fully and LB grind with the second one. Then when you grinded the second one to max LB for each level of awakening, then switch to the second grinded Cecil as your main and let the other one grind up trust mastery instead.

>>157804953
>>157802187
rat fuckers die

Everyone seems to consider Cecil's LB to be the only one "worth" grinding but how crucial is it really to his usefulness as a character?

>>157805696
Less annoying then lightningfans

>>157805696
>>157805916

I rather rat fuckers than flat fuckers

Wew. Ran out of uses half way into the wave cannon fight. Thank god this game is getting shut down.

>>157804851
Did I say 91.58%? I meant 98.52%. Fucked something up there.

Also interesting is the fact that 11pulls are WORSE overall for base 4*s.

With an 11pull, you have a maximum probability of 87.84% for getting at least two base 4*s. You have a 59.32% chance of getting at least 3, a 29.22% chance you'll get at least four, a 10.3% chance you'll get at least 5...etc

With 20 dailies, though, that means you have a 91.58% chance of getting at least two 4*s. There's a 76.13% chance you'll get at least 3, a 54.39% chance you'll get at least 4, a 32.7% chance you'll get at least 5....etc

And that first one is only assuming they calculate the other 10 units separately, which they probably don't do. If they don't the odds are EVEN LOWER.

tl;dr - 11pulls are bad, and they only get worse.

>>157805871
It's a 74% ATK/DEF/SPR buff when maxed.

>>157805871
Something something arena, even though you dont start with a full fb guage and are vulnerable to dying to exdeaths and meteor.

>>157806107
you're getting shut down.

>>157805871

meh 50% to 74%, i'd say worth maxing 3* lb then just level to 6*

>>157805334
Which is approximately 2 and a half wolfgang peak runs.
But you're wrong. They give more than 300, so it's okay.


The regular pots give 3,000.
The big pots give 10,000.

>>157806179
Oh big deal, Ramza can eventually give a +100% ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR buff with a constant regen effect, and it's not even his LB!

>>157805871
He's hella useful without it, but if you have a fully enhanced cecil there's no reason to bring any other support units, except for maybe bartz to keep the boosts a coming during a dryspell of LB crystals.

>>157806585
Ramza also has to sit there the entire fight doing nothing because of it, and you will NEVER pull him and you will NEVER get enough enhancement mats to reach that point.

>>157806585
>comparing a 5* base to a 3*
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaale

>>157806458
>Minis give 100
>Regulars jump to 3k
That doesn't seem right. Those must be super rare though.

>>157806585
Yeah, after grinding dozens of rare materials and spending some millions of gil.

I missed out on the last banner.
I just pulled a DK Cecil
I assume I can't farm up 6* mats atm?
Do I have to wait until the next event? The Pro awakening has not given me a single item on his list today.

>>157806895
That's right, they're event only. They don't drop from the PRO vortex.

Just focus on getting him to a high level so you can ascend him once the event starts. It'll take you a few days to farm up his materials though, be warned.

>>157806789
They aren't really that rare, you get at least a couple a month just for doing nothing. They're weekly rewards in JP.
The mini pots are literally a joke, it was hilarious how expensive they were in the Mogcake event.

Keep in mind you'd still need 10 Regular Pots to max Cecil at optimum efficiency, and over 20 to get there if he's already 6*.

The big pots are rarer, but if you're an arenafag they're breddy common. About as common as 10% Trust Moogles.

>>157806762
>>157806789
>complaining about grinding for ability enhancement
>when it takes 15 days of energy minimum to get cecil's LB maxed out even if you play for 24 hours a day

lol

>>157807130

do 10% moogles become more common? so many TMs so little time.

>>157807272
You get at least 2-3 a month

Daily reminder that the Ramza that belongs to Soljris, or however the fuck you spell her name, can do 1 million damage. Her ultima does nore damage without faith or deshell

>>157807904
>ultima does nore damage without faith or deshell
wat

>>157807207
You can't grind ability enhancements (yet) though.

There is a limited amount of enhancement items available. If you could grind it there'd be nothing to complain about.

>>157807904
God bless Soljris. She truly is our greatest hero.

>>157807904
Daily reminder to fuck off with your namedrop cancer.

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>>157807904
Fuck me I forgot the pic

>>157807904
>>157808005
whatever happened to Sinkie?

>>157807904
>she
>>157808000
Yeah I tried it today. Not really sure why a faith boost+ deshell does less. Maybe it has something to do with the ignore magic def mechanic

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>>157807904
>namedropping

>>157804712
It's not bad at all.
>cost 1 heart orb
>20% recovery bonus
>esuna
>quick cast
>HP, Atk, Magic +1% each
>slightly increased heart orb rate

The problem is that using 6 summon tickets for that one card(other cards in the pack are pretty much filler) is just not really worth it for me.

>>157808195
Were you fighting belmodar?

He has a fractional SPR, so breaks actually have the opposite effect.

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>>157808090
Still good, but not even my best whalefriend anymore.

I mean, Rizer's TM. Really.

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>>157809906
And here's the same thing on a completely different whalefriend

I don't understand these next level whalestrats. Fucking barrage?

>>157809906
You can name all your false gods but know that none of them will ever be as special as Curty

>>157810060
Uh, Barrage is good on her. Her best attack normally has a 2.7x multiplier, Barrage has a 3.2x one.

>>157804712
Can't really say since I didn't buy the Pictlogica cards, but it doesn't seem worth it to me at 6 summon tickets and the increased heart orb draw is only 5% iirc. And as an assassin, I ask that you please do not remove barrier from your deck, especially combined with berserk, especially against Odin. I can get nuked from existence in 2 turns if I get targeted, even with a wind pupu.

>>157810150
Wait a minute, you're right. Barrage IS better than anything lightning has, even with the elemental imperil.

After the 20% reduction from Crushing Blow, Electric Blitz is still only 2.5x effective damage. Fuck.
The only thing I guess is chaining if you have two of them, but I never realized how shitty her abilities were until now.

She's probably outclassed by all of our barragers with dual wield equipped.

>>157810392
>even with a wind pupu.
You deserve it for using pupus.

>>157810060
Barrage has a higher multiplier than any of her moves, and doesn't have an element attached which can be useful.

Granted you'd be long dead by the time she finished her barrage animation, but still.

>>157808474
Honestly, I'm just filtering names now.
I've already filtered mine, might as well add the rest.

>>157810662
The thing is that Barrage does become outclassed by Crushing Blow once ability enhancement comes into the picture but until it does, Barrage will always be better. And you need a ton of money to get that enhancement as well as equip a Coral Sword onto her which will lower her attack power.

>>157810784
if Rinoa gets added to BE, are you gonna whale for her?

>>157811064
She shouldn't be that hard to get if you have 5000 Lapis to spend on the 11 roll. She will likely be a base 4 given who she is and by then the gacha roll will change to make it easier to get her with the lowest base denominator.

>>157810679
>25% passive wind resist
No reason not to bring one for survivability.

Why do mobius samurai suck so much?

>>157811269
Nah, I think she'll be a base 5*. You gotta remember that by the time they add in the popular games like VIII and VII, we'll most likely have 7* unit upgrades.

Plus she's the main heroine of her game. I'll bet she'll be 5* -> 6*, Squall will be 5* -> 7*

>>157810392
As an assassin, aren't you able to break both yellow and red bars in a single turn anyways?
So what's the point of waiting for someone to throw a barrier when you can stop odin from zanketsukensatsuing you in a single turn by yourself?

First time I saw an assassin do it I was like WOAH!

>>157810784
Some reddit whale should pick up their shit and become the new meme unit so no more innocent anons unwillingly become thread celebrities desu

>>157796317
With II event coming to RK soon, in which banner are you pulling? I want to pull on it but I can't decide between the two banners. Could you Anons that will pull on II banners share your reasoning on why you are pulling on the banner you are? Thanks a lot, you're the best.

>>157810662
And after checking, holy shit my chizuru whales are better than the lightning ones. Whoda thunk.

Even accounting for the level correction difference between a 5* Chiz and a 6* lightning, Chizuru should hit for 6.45% more damage per turn at the same attack level

Lightning's attack is still slightly slightly better if you equip her perfectly, but all of my lightning friends still have lower attack than my one chizuru friend.

>>157811649
The best pull right now is pulling out of RK altogether and just uninstalling it.

>>157811565
You gotta set that up beforehand though. Usually you have to use your max of 6 actions to break through full yellow and around 4 through full red considering enstone + boost. That means you have to take fewer actions in the previous turns = less orbs for the team

>>157811064
To an extent.

>>157811767
Thanks for your input Anon, I will make sure to take it into consideration moving forward. Glad you took the time to pinch in.

>>157811891
No but seriously RK's future is a bit dodgy right now until they release a statement.

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So here's proof that our boy doesn't hit for less with deshell and faith (except against belmodar).

You can only roll a minimum of 0.86x the max damage, so there's no way these two attacks could ever be the same.

>>157811565
Breaking through orange requires that you have both boost and earth pupu up (comet helps too), and you won't always be able to get the heart orbs for artemis in time. Single turn breaks are overrated anyway since you only get one turn to wail at the boss and your attackers often won't have the correct orbs to fully take advantage of the break phase.

>>157812056
Oh, I'm aware. But it's not a real concern to me, you see, RK is the only mobage I play and I don't really spend $ on it, so my question makes sense even inside the current turmoil.

I do appreciate your concern for it's players though, that's nice of you.

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christ 5* shantotto looks ugly

>>157811064
>Rinoa
Can you please quit with your namedropping bullshit? You guys are the cancer of this general

>>157811520
Yeah and you'd think wakka would be base 5* for sure before Rikku (especially non-X2 Rikku).

Alim doesn't actually play final fantasy though. You never know.

>>157812606
that says kupipi tho

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>>157812723
Rinoa is a final fantasy character though, she's from the eighth game.

>>157812921
>talking about final fantasy
the cancer of this general...etc

>>157812921
That's some next level shitposting, look I know you find shitposting fun and enticing but you gotta stop sometimes. This only upsets people and derails threads.

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>>157812606
That's Kupipi. She's a White Mage and is one of the first Trusts you can get in XI

>>157812885
I mean, it's a fact that we're gonna get 7* upgrades eventually. The only question is when.

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>>157812606
another white mage.
wonder if i'll be able to eventually make a potato squad

>>157813098
that's probably what they are saving cloud and sephiroth for to be H

>>157812107
But it stop the zankensuken!

>>157811863
Thanks for the explanation. I didn't really know how it worked other than he had actions up and as you said he used all of them.

>>157813297
Yeah. Introducing 7* upgrades with the VII characters is just too fitting. That's almost assuredly what they'll do.

How do I chainsaw chain? I have the Edgar's with coral swords but the chains keep resetting randomly. I saw them go up to 9 once but it usually resets by 4 if I can see the numbers

>>157813307
Sure I'll one turn break if someone's about to die, but otherwise I prefer to take two turns to do it if the party can withstand the Zanketsuken without going into critical health. Which usually isn't difficult if the healer is able to put up barrier first.

>>157813706
Are you letting other units attack inbetween or something? That'll break it unless they're also lightning.

You have to time it so the other attacks go after the chain. I know most of them if you need help with a particular one.

>>157814346
I was just using only chainsaws after I noticed it was odd. Gonna try and do elite with the cheese team once I learn the timing. Can either do thundaga or hyperdrive probably

Is there any kind of SSB+ guarantee on this banner or is it the first actual legitimate trap banner?

>>157814930
No SSB+ guarantee, only pull if you are truly desperate for medicas.

Anyone tried to brute force the nightmare boss yet?

>>157815043
Yes

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>>157813706
>>157814346
>>157814758
That seems to happen whenever you just press the edgars alone without another attack. Not sure why.
Scared the shit out of me just now because I thought Gumi broke it.


Anyway, the chain should be 13 long with just the edgars alone, and the final hit should make 14.
For Thundaga, it's 800 milliseconds after pressing both edgars, for Hyperdrive it's 130 milliseconds (almost instant)

Turn off animations, that sometimes fucks with the app (but not the timing).

How the fuck do we kill the cannon? My attacks do no damage and it has a shit ton of life and occasionally respawns parts and becomes immune.
Literally can't kill it with:
6 chain firaga, chain blizzaga
5 valefor, 4 leviathan
12 diaga
8 fire veil, 8 water veil
under two sheepsong charges from RW

>>157816080
You using 6 chain firaga and blizzaga? Damn, how can you fit in anything else?
Anon, you're not hacking, are you?

>>157817172
haha ecks dee you're so funny

>>157817198
And you aren't eloquent, high5.

Any tips for the meltdown boss? Couldn't beat it last time, looking for a good strategy.

So what banners is everyone pulling on in the near future? might pull on the II banners, would be useful especially for mote dungeon.

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>tfw realizing all RK/BE and Mobius players are mobile posters
This one's on the house.

>>157818874
Don't you have "XV is the death of FF" threads to be making on /v/?

>>157811649
minwu bsb isn't anything special

firion is the best bsb until orlandu

banner 1 is way better

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W-whoa! Tifa and Yuffie are lezzing out!

>>157819178
Doesn't that count as pedophilia

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Wait, hold on, what?

>>157819149
Issue is, banner 2 has Maria's BSB, one of the very best mage BSBs, a 40% medica, flame shield for -ATK-MAG.

So I'm unsure

>>157819251
That's AC/DoC Tifa, and Yuffers was 18/19 during AC/DoC. So nope.

>>157819251
she's 18 in AC
19 in DoC
even then the age of consent in japan is 16, which she is in VII

>>157819263
They made a mistake way back and couldn't just roll everyone back so that's stayed like that

>>157819289
we get a better mage bsb next event and 1 has Will of the White Mage

>>157819450
I am drawing for Ashe too, but Ashe is not as strong as maria in a scenario where you don't have a party wide mag boost.
Since maria has a 30% Mag command, and the hardest fights coming ahead in D250, you ideally would want mages with BSBs that provide EnEl+MAG Entry/Command, which leaves you with no room for native boosting mag of all your mages.

So by the time the fights arrive, I want to have 2-3 EnEl+Mag BSBs, Medica BSB (probably Vanille, Relm or something along those lines), Wall (Already have)

In theory, I could RW Sheepsong or something like that, but that may really cut into my options if I am still struggling at that point,

>>157821942
How about Vayne?

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Update from Gumi support on Nox being broken.

Good news guys, it appears that once

>>157818874
Dont forget the amazing mobile port of final fantasy V!

>>157821942
fuck off Curty, you'll never be good enough for Esteria-chan!

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>>157796317
Does anyone have a higher res of this art?

>>157818874
The only mobileposters are RKfags.

It's the only one of these games that's actually conductive to phoneposting. The rest are either A: battery hogs, or B: battery hogging macrofests

to the guy with l i t t l e l a p i s. Thanks alot. You carried me to the lilith rod. I did have to use most of my pheonix downs but fuck it.

>>157823679
No prob man, you enjoy that rod. It's good shit.

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Good job guys.

That aside, who /pullwithme/ here?

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>>157818874
I play on an emulator though. I don't even have a casual-ass smartphone.

>>157823891
lol I get broken html when I try to actually look at the notice

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>>157823891
I'll say

Jeez, the halloween outfits are really low effort

They literally just pasted on accessories for some of them (I'm looking at you, Fina)

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/pullwithme/ you dinguses

Would you believe this is my first ever luna?

>MAG/SPR +15% ring with an added spell (Cure?)
>Yet another better mage hat (15 def. 15 mp, 30 mag with an aoe damage + para)
>52 damage dagger with unmitigated damage ability
>+13% HP/MP and +13% ATK/MAG abilities, but they seem event unit unique

New event looks cool, hopefully the new units are good.

>>157823891
Lilith rod and a cecil. Im walking away from this banner with alot more than i expected

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>Oh man, I gold, at least it might be Rosa
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
KILL ME, I JUST WANT TO PULL ON BANNER DAMNIT

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>tfw blew all my quartz on two earrings when this motherfucker exists

>>157824320
Forget that, what about the knife

if unmitigated damage really means a 100% defense piercing hit, it'll be insanely good

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>>157824084
TOP SPRITEWORK

>>157824451
>Knife
>100% def pierce
Will Penelo finally shine?

>>157824460
Dracu Lasswell isn't bad.

>>157824451
"unmitigated damage" is Gumi's way of saying it has def/spr ignore.

Which is Gumi's way of making an ability sound better than it really is, because it's exactly the same thing as just having a slightly higher multiplier.

My guess is it's a ST attack with 1.5x damage and a 25% spr ignore for a final damage output of 2.0x. Calling it now.

>>157824451
Pretty sure from the tooltips for Hyperdrive, Meteor, and Ultima, "unmitigated" only means 25% DEF/SPR ignore

>>157824490
Or, y'know, Firion.

>>157824556
>>157824561
Booo

>>157824490
She needs a 5 star. I dont think her current skill set can make it even if you only spam sword dance

>>157824460
lasswell looks passable, the rest are a fucking joke

holy FUCK

>>157824460
10/10 effort. What the fuck is lid supposed to be? Looks like a batcat.

>>157824490
100% def ignore wouldn't even make sense with the way the damage formula works. You can't divide by zero.

>>157824594
He obviously meant her TM, which is already hella useful because of Abel.

>>157824561
Hyperdrive specifically says "partially" unmitigated

>>157824594
Isn't she getting 5 star in JP?

>>157824493
The bats probably look really bad in motion and he has his retarded 6* aura that blocks more than exdeath.

But yeah, he's the least offensive of the bunch (Seriously that fina hat)

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Jesus FUCK

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>>157824638
Hyperdrive does, but a lot of others don't.

Light Shell, for instance, even though it has the same amount of armor piercing as hyperdrive.

>>157824460
>>157823891
spritework aside.. any of these units worth pulling for?

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>>157824767
>>157824871
>random status ailments

Hello new arena meta.

>>157824871
Global exclusives. We will need to see their loadouts to say.
A quick glimpse says Demon Rain doesn't look bad.

>>157824871
Lass has 195 ATK base at max level, Rain gets doublehand, apparently good tanking skills, and an ATK/MAG party buff, and Fina seems to have a party heal that also heals MP what the fuck do you think?

>>157824914
She's like the worst one and even then she's going to be really usable in a party.
And they're exclusive, all gone november 4th.
This banner just might be last day 11x pull worthy.

>>157824871
>5* base
>horrendous sprites
>abilities that other units already have, or better units coming out later will have

nope, not worth it at all

>>157825009
>gets doublehand
>global

fucking epic meme

>these Halloween items
Daymmmm

>>157825134
Just because it isn't stackable doesn't mean it's straight up bad.

>>157825009
Lid is gonna be balls useful if she can inflict petrify without an LB charge,

The rest will be outclassed, but you only get one golem cane.

>>157825134
Doublehand is still a significant damage boost on its lonesome. It's not going to be better than Dual Wield, but in a vacuum it is a huge bonus for any F2Players.

>>157825176
it does, actually

>>157811649
I think banner 2 is too shit to justify pulling, outside of Maria's BSB, that is godlike, nothing else there is especially interesting, maybe the 40% medica, but meanwhile there's an IC medica on banner 1 which is better

>>157825161
Dayymmm as in they're all mediocre?

Only good one is the mask for pushing nonwhale kefka up to 405 mage.

>>157825204
F2Players aren't going to get him in the first place dumbass

>>157825234
>free boost to your ATK is bad
hot memester

>>157825282
>F2Players aren't going to get him in the first place dumbass
Because gachas work that way, right? Money sensors.
Whales don't ask "is it worth it to roll on this rate up???", they just roll on every rate up, jackass.

>>157825295
If you're the kind of person who rolls a base 5* on a 4 unit banner (that includes a 3*) then you're the kind of person with a DW TM.

Also, he's a fucking tank. The description says it right there. Tanking abilities don't let you deal damage, so it's wasted (shield slot is wasted too). He's a mess of a unit.

>>157825378
>no f2p player has ever pulled a base 5* ever

>>157825378
He explicitly has counter skills, you goofball. If cover->counter works in FFBE like in every other FF (and legitimately I don't know if it does), that'd add to his overall damage output significantly.

>>157825359
>>157825408
Your odds are extremely low of ever getting him. It's not JUST that he's a base 5*, it's that he's one of two different base 5*s on the same banner. That cuts his odds in half even after the rate increase.

You are more likely actually to get an off-banner zidane than that.

>>157825460
It doesn't mean no one is going to get him, retard.

>>157825194
>The rest will be outclassed
Not for quite a while, this Fina is going to be distinctly better than probably any healer bar that one BF girl for sure and depending on the kit, demon Rain could be a really usable tank if you didn't get Cecil.
Lass is probably the biggest unknown. Ridiculous attack power, but all we know is he likely has bladeblitz, drain blade, and drain.

>>157825282
>The basket is bad
Great if you don't want two earrings and the SPR boost is nice for your healer or even a tank.
The knife is debatable, but could still be of use.

>>157825359
Besides, for all we know, we may have an extra high chance of on banner pulls for this banner.
I mean, it's incredibly unlikely, but it's possible.

>>157825479
Anybody who gets him is also extremely likely to get one of the four (4) different DW TMs that exist.

And any one of them is better than a single doublehand.

>>157825539
>X is bad because Y is better
Absolutely moronic logic.

>>157825539
two of those aren't going to be out for a very long time and one of them is from a base 5* and there's 4 more party slots to fill that may make better use of dual wield anyway. There is nothing inherently bad about doublehand and this meme where you seem to think everyone in JP has 4 Bartzes with their TMs grinded out is fucking dumb too.

>>157825539
>Anybody who gets him is also extremely likely to get one of the four (4) different DW TMs that exist.
Gachas still don't work that way, son.

>>157825505
>lacks arise
>can't restore her own MP
>best mage bar tilith

We get Refia in a month

I don't know how BE players put up with so much off banner bullshit. This is ridiculous. 90% of the shit I see posted here from BE players are off banner shit, the chance in RK is like 1% and it's infuriating when it happens, and RK gives out much more free currency allowing more pulls.

You guys...I have no words for your resolve.

>>157825738
Actually BE has way more pulls than RK, but the odds are still a little bit worse.

Unlike RK though there's stuff that actually appreciates in value instead of just getting worse immediately. There's a reason to pull now instead of 6 months from now.

>>157825738
>the chance in RK is like 1%
What, exactly, do you call all of that 3* and 4* trash?

>>157824152
>>157823891
Pulled Shadow...That 11 pull for Cecil is very enticing.

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bit the bullet and rolled the AoE lucky draw, if anything, Gaffgarions SSB made it pretty worth it since I already got his BSB
Still a trap banner, should have saved for WoFF

>>157825830
>he doesn't get regularly get 11 5*s from 50 mythril pulls
LOL

>>157825621
>>157825651
I'm not saying it's bad, but your odds are astronomically low of getting one without the other. For those who do it's a nice benefit, and it's good until the TM farm finishes, but I don't think he'd rank very high in JP.

It's not worth hardpulling for, is the point. That's the only point.
If you get him, he's not gonna be trash. But you'll probably get better stuff eventually.

>>157825658
For the majority of people, it will be true. You're arguing that it's good for maybe 1% of people playing the game, the rest won't ever be in such a situation.

>>157825830
I'm comparing your BE's 5* to RK 5*, very rarely I see a 5* pull on banner from BE players, on RK most of 5* pulls are inside the banner.

You don't have to take my word for it either, checkout the archives.

>>157825009
>what the fuck do you think
Relax, bro. I haven't logged in yet for the day, and won't be able to do so for a couple of hours, which is why I'm asking here. Thanks nevertheless, for your reply

>>157825970
>I'm not saying it's bad, but it's bad because muh odds

>>157826026
FFBE has perfectly serviceable 3* base units, though, due to the Awakening system. Cecil being the most obvious at the moment, but Exdeath, Cloud of Darkness, Kefka, Bartz, Lenna, and Vaan are all 3* base. Kain, Tellah, Golbez, Garland, etc. too, who while not the best, are very usable.

>>157826026
A base 5* in BE isn't like a 5* in RK. It's like getting 8 ssbs and bsbs all in one draw. The comparison isn't the same.

You can pull every other day in BE and still have a net gain of 25 lapis a day. So of course most of it's going to be trash, because there's so much more pulling going on.

>>157825970
>It's not worth hardpulling for, is the point.
That's not what you were arguing against though. You just went "lol, Doublehand is a meme ability" and then you went on to claim that f2p players are never going to get a base 5*. If your point was that the banner isn't worth pulling on, you failed miserably at communicating that.

>>157826116
>Golbez
>usable

>>157826213
He's got tri elements and not useless base stats and he's gonna be a 6* someday fuck you

>>157826116
But following the same train of thought, RK has perfectly serviceable 3*/4* gear that can be combined into great Synergy equipment. Hell, there's actually some insane 3*s, like the small elemental boost rods or that V sword that is stronger than some 5*s under synergy.

>>157826212
That was someone else, I didn't jump in until after that point.

My first post was >>157825378, where I made the observation that it's only going to apply to a select subset of individuals who lack DW.

Threadly Reminder that this is the "Anniversary" we've been saving for.

Anniversary "2 Days" Rate Up: 10/22 0:00 ~ 10/29 23:59
Batch 1: Orlandu, WoL, Hayate, Bartz, Leo
Batch 2: Eileen, Chizuru, Miyuki, Zidane, Ulrika
Batch 3: Tidus, Leonhart, Wakka, Lawrence, Camille
Batch 4: Trance Terra, Vanille, Cecil, Arc, Lenna

>>157826026
It's still a matter of what you're pulling.
A unit is a lot more impactful than a weapon outside of a few cases (Shout/SG), so a 5* base in BE would be like pulling Shout and SG at the same time along with a good BSB like Cecil's.

>>157826337
Ok, and?

>>157826268
And your logic is still flawed as fuck because it's very possible to have a base 5* and not have a DW TM. It's also possible to have a base 5* and a DW TM but having another character who gets more benefit out of it. Basically you're still a retard arguing against a claim no one even made to begin with. No one's said you should dump all your lapis and tickets chasing Rain, just that overall the banner seems alright.

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I sure love disrespecting Nightmare mechanics.

>>157826372
These are trap banners desu.

>>157826337
oh yeah, speaking of which... they never did finish that fb banner, or did they?

>>157826426
Each has a great 6*, one good 6* and then mostly TM fodder, unless the XI units are all godlike(and reminder that you can pull the fucking midget there) I don't see why you wouldn't roll on this

Rosa, Edge, and a Blue to Gold Fran.

Cecil continues to elude me. I'm probably gonna blow my last three tickets on him tomorrow with the daily pull.

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Oh. Oh?

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>>157826529
Oh!

>>157826528
He eludes me as well. I guess I have to do a 5000 pull tomorrow to get him.

>>157826529
rakshasa

>new event means we're likely getting 10 more tickets
Nice.

>>157826470
The FB banner was like a month ago.

>>157826470
Tell that to the guy who got like 7 CoDs

>>157826668
I'm tempted to do a 5000 pull, but the odds are never in my favor, and the rest of the units for this banner suck hard.

Dark Knight Cecil might be a decent consolation prize, but I don't like my odds of pulling four Edges, a Rosa, five Shadows, and a Bedile.

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>>157826793
It was 8.
KILL ME

>>157826650
Nice whaling anon. Or if you're really f2p, you must have a bajilionn Dual Wields now so congrats on those.

>>157826843
Auto LB is no fucking joke anon.

If it stacks in global, you are the cecilnator.

>>157826852
It was just the daily pull anon, calm down.
I do have a Zidane but I am too lazy to TM grind.

>>157826926
B-but that one anon said you can't get base 5*s as a free to play player.

>>157826337
Which ones you all going for anons? Going all out for 1 and doing half pulls for 2.

>Mobius Final Fantasy Is Headed To PC This November In Japan
Not so mobile anymore.

>>157826990
>playing JP
Why?

Gumi Global still exists anon.

>>157826990
>JP

>>157827048
half wrong

>>157827067
>worse version still exists
Do you here yourself anon?

>>157826714
>>157826793
Lol fuck, I'm retarded. You guys're right; I somehow thought that there was supposed to be multiple batches of the players' choice banner

>finally give up on pulling anyone useful, unload stockpile of cactuars onto Mustadio to replace Artemios
>wake up
>halloween units look ridiculous
>daily pull
>Vaan
>would have dumped all of this shit on Vaan and finally made a mage team
>but I just HAD to give up and level mustadio

it hurts bros
thanks for reading my blog I hope you pull rainbow crystals

>>157827169
>Dumping on Mustadio in the first place.

>>157827169
Just take a long walk with him and Kefka on the Maranda Coast. He'll get stronger in no time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epn7jAXXOTY

>>157827126
At least it won't hog battery unless you are playing on a laptop/notebook

>>157827223
I'm running WoL/Chizuru/Artemios/Kefka/Lenna and he's way better than Artemios, the only other person I could stick Killer Bow on, and my pulls have been utter garbage. Didn't pull a single good unit since the player's choice banner.

>>157827245
The way I read was more sexual than it was meant to be anon.

>>157827264
His best attack only hits for 2/3rds of artemios's best attack 1/6th of the time.

It matches his best attack 1/6th of the time. And it's WAY better than his attack 2/3rths of the time. He's basically outclassed.

>>157826398
You're not alone, no one has the time to play Hot Potato for 15 fucking minutes.

>>157827343
Ya. I believe you. I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who told me this twice.

Except now, if I used these resources on Vaan, I could have dusted off my old Tellah and awakened my old max lv 4* Rydia and had a fun time.

Just need another maze event I guess.

>>157827334
Get your mind out of the gutter you degenerate.

>>157827421
Coast is aight til then.

You can macro it to as long as you set it up beforehand. I'm working on a screencapture macro that will be able to recognize kefka and know where thundara is.

>>157825874

I've gotta pull on this when it arrives. Gassing enemies for potential 99999 damage sounds so fun.

> FFXI has a wide variety of great characters
> spin off FFs that have reps from every main FF always use the meme character
> that wasn't even relevant until she got her own mini expansion
> because she's a meme

Fuck Japan. Fuck Square. It's always Shantotto.

We could have Tenzen, more Prishe and Ulmia, Naja, the Ark angels for divine might throw backs, Lilisette, Nashmeira, etc.

But no, we're stuck with a goddamned meme character.

>>157828640
fuck you. Shantotto's the best

>>157828640
boohoo

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I'm trying to make up my mind on which of these banners to pull, I will post how highly I rate each relic in order, from 0 to 10. If you disagree with my rating, please feel free to point it out.
This is not an attempt to shit on any relic you like or on your favorite character. I'm just trying to get some feedback.

If enough people agree/disagree with me while providing feedback it would be much easier to decide this.

>Banner One
Weaponmaster: 10
DK Charge: 8
Kashuan's Resolve: 7
Pirate's Knives: 6
Will of the WHM: 8
Thunder XVI: 5
Captain's Command: 4

>Banner Two
Meteor XVI: 10
Seal of Heaven: 7
Gaia Drum: 5.5
Snows of Death: 7.5
Lord of Arms: 5
Darkborn Blade: 6
Goddesse's Bell: 7

>>157828783
>>157828869
Fucking meme loving faggots. I hope Square shoves Vaan down your throats forever.

>>157828962
Never played XII, why is Vaan considered a meme?

>>157828962
FFXI is a meme. You're just mad because the meme character became the postergirl for that game isn't your favorite meme character.

>>157828962
I hope so too

>>157829014
> FFXI
> meme
Found the lightningfag.

>>157829010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUYJZ3Odm7o

That and not wearing a shirt.

>>157826398
any tips? my rng has been terrible as I get tagged just before the laser

Why is a fucking cannon the White Magic Nightmare boss? It doesn't even take more damage from white magic.

>>157828890

I'm pulling on 1 because I still don't have a fucking burst and I like all the characters on it. 2 has beaverman and the monk who never drops his god damned RM so I'll skip it.

>>157829831
Most people just go fuck it, slap on full fire resist gear and mitigation, and just summon and ninja the fuck out of it while ignoring the cannon. And if you have enough summons to beat the cannon, you might as well go beat Neo Bahamut too while you're at it.

>>157830053
I keep hearing about Ninja magic doing well but never do more than 1000 damage. Is there a secret?

>>157830159
Yeah, give all the ninja skills and magic-increasing equipment to Tyro.

>>157830302
Ninja might as well be renamed to "Tyro" since it's the only category he can do good at and ninja magic skills deal have good multipliers that make them barely usable on actual ninjas because of low magic

>fire mitigation runs out
>Rubicante survives with a sliver of health
>entire team is holocausted

This is tougher than I thought

Why is the Brachiosaur so bullshit for anyone without Full Break?
How many months is it going to be for Rain to get his Full Break?

The other Ramzanon better free up a slot desu.

We need all the Ultima spamming Ramzas to go with the Edgar meme team as possible