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Backpeddaling Edition

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

>Upcoming Hard Mode Brawl:
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20324471


HEROIC BRAWL STRAWPOLL:
http://www.strawpoll.me/11452505/r

Previous Thread: >>157714712
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krippO
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Man, Team 5 is starting to get really good at backpedaling
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Is next wave of content going to be an expansion or an adventure? I know that until now they alternated them, but a full fledged expansion realesed now would only last less than a year, and what is even worse is that the first expansion of 2017 would be an adventure, wich has too few cards to justify the loss of TGT BRM and LOE. It would be really terrible.
Should the last expansion of 2016 be another adventure?
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>>157768139
>50 PACKS
>3 GOLDEN LEGENDARIES
>1000 GOLD AND 1000 DUST
.....
>definetely trying not to trick people
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Hey guy that post supergirl pictures, post more, she makes my dick hard.
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>>157768369
It's supposed to be an expansion.
And yeah, the fact that it will last a little over a year is one of the many reasons why Standard is the worst possible solution Team 5 managed to make.
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>>157767651
>>157767651
Kripp misunderstands the brawl
there are no special rules
it's just constructed with an arena twist
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>>157768434
>no jumpcut with him destroying her pussy
man life sucks
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>>157768649
Yeah I just watched it too, he seems way off.
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>>157768397
>50 PACKS
lol i get that many free shadowverse packs in a week
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stats
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I know you dudes are busy earning your 30 wins for the day, complaining about Shamans, or fingering yourselves, but please fill out the /hsg/ VGL7 poll. It's for that /vg/ Soccer thing that we won something in once.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSft8qrgOZcN2LTdEPOYmXDpt_XEVnOn5OHyvV0y8Js91_PXAw/viewform

If you want an idea of what this is, watch a bit of this video https://youtu.be/ffUXQSrVOO4?t=1171

The deadline is tomorrow so get to voting
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>>157768207
>It's going to be Troll related.
Draenie vs Trolls!
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Heres my paladin deck..IF you guys dont mind giving me advice
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>>157768760
Why would you want 5 free packs when you can pay $10 for 1 pack?
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>>157768690
I dont understand why they didn't used this costume instead for the whole series.
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>>157768902

I'm not sure that I can handle the fact there's multiple elf sluts but no space goat slut skin in game yet
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>>157768943
Shit forgot pic sorry
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>>157768847
What if I shitpost in both generals
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>>157768690
>wanting a coal burner

keke
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HEY GUYS
I work at Blizzard, i'm on the economy sector but some cards are leaking anyway. I will provide some info on new cards, maybe once three days. This is 100% valid and these cards are already balanced and ready to be released.

So, next expansion priest gets

1-DROP
3/3
text: get -2/-1 (minus two damage and minus two health) every time an allied minion is played (not summoned)


and a neutral drop (think its confirmed tauren)
4 mana
3/5
text: gain +1/1 and taunt if your character's health is below that the opponent's
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>>157769170
make a /svg/ team then
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>Heroic Tavern Brawl will be replacing Tavern Brawl for a week, but things will be back to normal the following week. During the event, all players will receive a free Classic pack for logging in to the game. We hope that players who do not want to participate will spectate and cheer their favorite players on to win.

if Blizz PR existed
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>>157769207
if you want to post retarded oc just post your retarded oc
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>>157769207

HEY GUYS
My dad works at Nintendo, he's in the pokemon sector sector but some pokemon are leaking anyway. I will provide some info on new mons, maybe once three days. This is 100% valid and these pokeon are already drawn and ready for the game
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>>157769207
>I work at Blizzard
ask zeriyah to post more nudes

or better yet go take a picture by her desk with her for proof
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>>157768649
I thought the same as Kripp until someone basically heavily implied that there were no gimmicks.

It's Tavern Brawl, the whole idea is that there's a gimmick. It's crazy that there isn't one. It's like Competitive Spirit- a secret triggered by a turn fucking starting.
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>>157768825
>playing over 1500 games in 9 days
with an average time of 5 minutes per game that would be 7500 minutes, aka 125 hours, aka ~14 hours per day of hearthstone
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reminder that over watch got a new pve mode and new seasonal skins/voice overs for Halloween(including semen demon mercy) while we got a $10 play ladder mode
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best video on the heroic brawl scam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpu-Neyb13A
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>>157769207
I'm capping this, but if you are lying Mr. Blizzard, I will be angry.


>>157769304
I got my hopes up, for a fleeting moment.
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>>157769721
There's no gimmicks, just vanilla standard ladder.
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>>157769721

The gimmick is that everyone will have a story to tell their friends about with their 1k gold pack
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>play nefarian against warrior as paladin
>get TWO shield slams
T-thanks
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>>157769850
The gimmick is the same as all the others, just roll a die and see if you win. It just so happens this die takes 1000 gold to roll and will always fuck you.


>>157769765
Why doesn't Hearthstone give us semen demons. I said it in the last thread and I'll say it again. I'd pay 10 bucks to have that ugly Innkeeper replaced with a pure loli gnome waifu.
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>>157769964

Paladin! Does the Light forsake you?
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>0-0
>opponent has DR FUCKING BOOM
>TAUNT TO SAVE HIM AT 1 HP

I fucking hate this game
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>>157769964
You play the RNG, you get the RNG, baby. You could have just played Noz, after all.


>>157770114
Normally, I'd say calm down but Dr. Boom is egregious.


>>157770089
The light does not discriminate.
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>>157770371
my dick does not discriminate.
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>>157770957
So unfair it gets discriminated so often
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>Tyrande
>kara
>purify
>nerfs making thralls penis harder
>heroic brawl

Mind you this is in the space of a few months, not the entire year

Haven't seen so many blunders in such a small amount of time from any blizz team before
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>>157771663
This is how all OC should look like :^)
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Is this too much ?
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>>157770089
Yep
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>>157768139
I'm glad heroic 'pay 1000 gold to gamble with your tier 0 shaman deck' brawl isn't happening
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>>157771758
As someone who has been Firelands Portal'd from 20 four times in a row, I dont think so

I still am salty about that
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Rate this card!
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>>157772053
Go away mr. blizzard
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>>157772053

It'd actually be perfect for silence decks running purify
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I don't even play hearthstone anymore but I came here to laugh at anyone defending the new Tavern Brawl idea, Blizzard's decisions, or Blizzard in general
I can't wait for this game to crash and burn harder than twin towers
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So, who is ready to never log into HS again after the 26th?
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>>157772509
Oh fuck, nice. I'm on the final mission of the last story character. Soon I will start my netdecking and moaning about aggro.
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>>157772509
It can't be that many people playing.

I tried the elder scrolls one and it was ok.
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>>157772491
nobody is defending it
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>>157772509
im actually hyped for this lmao
if they improve graphics and interface it would be pure pogchamp
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>>157772509
>steam
Im actually so fucking ready.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFMxSsXWe8
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>>157772509
hope reckful streams this as replacement hearthstone rather than league of babbies 2bh
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>>157772007
Okay, well here's the draft.
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>>157772509
Meanwhile I find it hilarious that SV managed to make Haven(basically Priest) class viable and even strong
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>>157772804
>still supporting byron
why
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>>157772509
I would be ashamed of having this on my steam list.
It don't look as good as hearthstone, is there anything but waifus in this gaem?
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>>157769728
>9 days
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>Tavern brawl
>A fun gimmick mode where you can get away from the usual cancers of ranked or arena and just have stupid, fast fun.

This "Heroic Tavern Brawl" is just constructed arena so I don't understand why they didn't just have 2 big buttons when you click arena that says "Normal Arena" & "Heroic Arena" one is your standard 150g entry, the other big bucks $10/1000g.

Why the fuck take away our one source of not Shaman/Druid cancer for the week and then charge us for the privilege of testing the implementation of a comp format
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>>157772874
>relatable (in more ways than one)
>nice goy
>comfy

why not tho
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>>157772881
It has literally everything done better in every way
Except for design and artstyle maybe
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>>157772995
It's about Europe so it's only natural to use the non-retarded way to count dates
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>tfw this is the first step towards on of those cancer microtransaction minigames like clash of clans
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>>157773203
So the actual game is good, right? Weaboo gamestyle spoils this for me anyway.
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>>157772639
>>157772669
Just some friendly advice that if you want possibly? exclusive icons and cardbacks you need to grind a little ranked before the 31st. This is the first month they have icons and card backs as rewards
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>go to reddit to see what's going on with the brawl
>thread about how people are entitled bitches and how we're losing the brawl only for one week
>open
>all upvoted posts are circle jerking how competitive those people are
>all collapsed/downvoted posts are reasonable people saying how blizzard might have added an extra button instead of removing the real brawl

Jesus fucking Christ. I didn't believe you guys, but it really is a shithole worse than /v/.
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>>157773361
Yes its pretty good.
It has a lot of new keywords and mechanics, there is a solid anti agro solution.
Arena is done beautifully in this game aswell.
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>>157773487
>first comment that it will be out this week
>comment next day on twitter that it will be out next week instead (maybe)

Yeah they are working to add that extra button now son
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>>157773364
>exclusive rare idums you can never get again

dont do this to me
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>shoulda played around fucking double raging ghoul and brawl! just don't play anything for the rest of the game. :^)
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>decay into chicken rank
>every single game is against a mage with two polymorphs and all the cancerous karazhan cards
>struggling to keep my minions on the board to pull off my divine spirit crazed alchemist combo
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>>157774115

>divine spirit priest

FOTM
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boys this is impossible without kel thuzad gimmicks and murloc shit

tell me HOW
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>>157774254
M I D R A N G E
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>>157774254
sludge belchers are your friends
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>>157774254
I used worgen combo
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>>157774202
Are you tricking me or has Divine Spirit really become a viable deck in the last three months?
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>>157773649
>Team 5
>Working to BETTER the game.

Wew
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>>157768139
>Play Fandral + Wrath on an enemy minion with 6 health, Bloodmage Thalnos is on the board
>Text literally says 4 damage or 2 damage, not counting Fandral's effect
>Deals 5 damage
>4 + 2 = 5 now apparently

Fuck these devs. Seriously, how retarded can they be?
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>>157774254
>he donated for the cards and adventures
kek
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>>157772808
That top is very heavy. Calling 5 or 6 wins.


>>157772804
Get out of here with that unlikable douchbag. Dude's stupider than an animal.

>>157774115
Now that's a patrician deck.


>>157774254
I hear building a huge C'thun is helpful. Wouldn't know myself. I got tired of Heroics after BRM and barely bothered with LoE's and Kara's.

>>157774528
It's just something you have to learn, just like what an "Animal Companion" is.
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>>157774503

its a ruse. its as viable as its ever been. it may win you one out of every 5 games
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>>157774714
Yeah too heavy.

Btw are you kidding me.
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>>157770114
I once punched my screen when my opponent went turn 6 coin dr boom, turn 7 topdeck dr boom
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>>157774998
But I won about 3/5 games with my deck back in the day. Think I got to mid-gold rank before I stopped.
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>>157775107
One time I got so mad at a Goblin Blastmage killing my Salty Dog in arena that without thinking, I shouted "Filthy nigger" and woke my roommate up.
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>>157774528

That's ab interesting interaction, I've been playing a bunch of maly boom Druid and haven't run into a situation yet that needed fandral, wrath and moonkin to try that
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>>157775294
always fun is losing a game to topdeck cabalist tome into polymorph and 2 bullshit spells next turn
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rate my tempo c'thun deck
any improvements?
I realize it may look like it but it's not a budget deck so please hit me with all the suggestions you have
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>S-She's here! It's Bellringer Angel! What is she doing here in the Tavern??
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>people are stroking their cocks over how competitive this new brawl will be and how "casuls just can't handle the risk because they're too afraid"
>in reality it will be a coin flip simulator where you press the play button and hope to get the good matchups of your deck just enough times (or, alternatively, play the mirror matchup which is a literal coinflip)
>while playing the actual games variance fucking you in the ass/rewarding you is even more impactful because of the incredibly small amount of games in one run, which diminishes the significance of skill

This isn't even close to what an actual competitve tournament mode should be (bans, multiple decks, plenty of games to reduce variance). And the reward system can be described in one word - bait.

To each his own I guess but to imply that this will be anything else but a glorified slot machine simulator is silly.
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>>157775915
watching people rage over yogg plays will be hilarious I guess
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>>157775915
Like I said, it's just one step closer towards those games like Clash of Clans or the simpsons game to milk the playerbase

Anyone who watched the episode of South Park on this subject knows what I'm talking about.
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>>157775045
>didn't kill 1/1
Well-deserved loss.
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>>157775752
Why is it 0/6
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>>157776046
>Midrange Shaman
>Using Yogg

You're kidding yourself if you believe that the matches won't be Shaman vs Shaman 100% of the time.
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>>157775752
>draw a card which you can instantly curve out with with high stats for the cost
Somehow seems fair enough for Priest.

>>157775760
Where's Brann and the Ancient Shieldbearers?


>>157775860
Ding Dong

>>157776226
kek
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>>157776269
there'll be at least one guy playing spell druid or something like that

but yeh, 80%+ shaman mirrors sounds like a good prediction
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>>157775915
>This isn't even close to what an actual competitve tournament mode
I dont get how people compare it to a tournament.

If you enter a tournament you know someone is going to win it. This is just throwing your money into a pot, Blizzard takes 100% of it, and then gives it out depending on how well you do, not based on who you beat

Imagine going into a poker tournament, then losing 3 hands and being disqualified
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>>157776186
Because it would be too OP if this had attack
Priest has a lot of ways to let it attack like inner fire or velen's chosen or tentacles or whatever
What do you think
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>>157776307
>Where's Brann and the Ancient Shieldbearers?
I figured a 7 mana 6/6 would be too slow in what's essentially an aggro deck
did miss putting Brann in though, that's true will cut something for it
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>>157776398
Why not give it 1/4 or 2/3
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>>157776171
Dude his board was full of shit and I removed 6 minions the previous turn with a combo of archer, arcane missiles and trading. And just when I thought I could stabilize next turn, the topdeck kills me.
Feels bad.
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>>157776487
Because it can trade with 1/1 tokens or whatever which is too op for a card that literally makes you play on curve no matter what happens
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>>157776226
I made a real version since it actually works in the games context

>dem zeriyah nudes

best time on hsg was when they leaked
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>>157776667
Why not make it a spell.
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Anybody NA wanna trade 80 gold quests?
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>>157776734
Because you cant buff a spell with inner fire or velen's chosen or tentacles and other priest buffs
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>>157776707
Who is the artist
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wondering could something like this work (only after reno is gone obviously)
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>>157776808
>trade
fuck off jew, you see this, it means NOT WELCOME
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>>157769721

I thought it too at first, that it was going to be a side mode available to all brawls, but they say it pretty clearly in the instructions:

> Participants will create a Standard deck from their existing card pool and lock it in before their first Heroic Brawl match. No changes can be made to your Heroic Brawl deck once you’ve locked it in, so be sure to do a bit of testing before you finalize your deck.
>Once you’ve locked in your Standard deck for Heroic Brawl, you’ll be pitted against other Heroic Brawlers in heated battle. Just like the Arena, you want to shoot for 12 wins to get the best rewards—but if you get three losses, you’re out!
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>>157774254
i did it with hunter pre cotw nerf

kept getting giant sandworm

actually worked out
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>>157776894
>character's health
OC fag pls go and stay go.
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>>157776808
Add me BestMageNA#2304
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>>157775760
Warrior tempo is kinda garbage. Most people who make c'thun decks for him go with control and use brann fug ur mom dwice for memery with emperor and ancient shield bearers.
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>>157776894

doubling it is far too powerful. adding +10 might be fine

course the real issue with priest is not giving them some reason to spam hero power on themselves, as they already do that because of lack of choices. need to give them more choices so they don't need to spam heal on themselves
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>>157772808
Shit, it went 1-3, too fucking heavy. Too much value and not enough tempo.
Feels fucking bad.
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>>157777089
>Most people who make c'thun decks for him go with control
I do realize that
point of this deck was to try something different
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>>157777106
given how much armor warrior shits out, and health being inferior to armor, I don't think + 10 is enough
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>>157777219

on a 2 mana card, 10 is fine. also, as you proposed your card to be after the next rotation begins, warrior will be losing Justicar Trueheart as well. their armor gain will be nerfed
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>>157769143
Okay this paladin deck sucks cock I have not been able to win a single game for the past hour so Its going in the garbage
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>>157777170
Could probably cut the arcanite reapers for something else then. They're too expensive and will probably overkill anything you're hitting with them anyway.
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>>157777168
Sorry, anon. Unfortunately tempo is what rules the format. A deck with 6 3/2s is almost always going to do better than one with 6 yetis and that's the simple truth.
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>firebat has a gf
Why
just end me
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>>157777345
do remember that while it is a 2
it is also a priest card
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>>157777597
STOP TRYING TO FIX PRIEST, NORMAL PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING PRIEST LOW WINRATE REEE
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>Almost every struggling class can be fixed with a strong class specific 2drop.
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>>157774254

KT is like the coolest card in the whole game. You didnt dusted it, did you? If you did, well just know i beat him in my second try with KT :^)
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>>157777891
*puking noises*
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>>157777891
They should give paladins something like a 2/2 with divine shield. I bet that'd make 'em take off.
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>>157776452
Wasn't 10 armor and 6/6 body whole purpose of c'thun warrior?
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>>157777891
Huh really makes you think
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>>157778031
the regular ones, yes
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>>157777597

its a 2/3. there are already several 2/3s. if its a class card it should be more potent. make it a 2/4
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>>157772509
Enjoy you`re censored version ;^)
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>>157778157
lol good one
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>>157778157

>Not modding it back to the original.

I mean, i did it with HS, why cant i with SV.
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>>157778157
what is there to censor though?
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>Replace Arcane explosion for Scarab in my Reno mage
>Get this
Wew lad
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>>157778765
Part 1 Rigged


Part 2 Matchmaking


:^)
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>>157779331
i thought you were talking about the okeefe tapes at first
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>>157778657
One of the main girls got a bra.
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>>157779816
post pics
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>>157778765
Just run wild pyro instead. It's probably the best card that most people don't include in their lists.
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>>157779956
it's much weaker in mage than it is in priest or warrior
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>>157780392
It does way more work for you in the current meta than all the greedier cards you could include. It's really not that bad.
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Can this card ever see a play?
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>>157780616
it is bad in mage
mage doesn't have the utility spells, aside from arcane intellect to really do much with it
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Are there any patrician control decks in weebverse?
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>>157780776
arcane missles?
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https://hsreplay.net/replay/p4PTy4QuCR232qMknD9Un7

He must've been so assblasted after that missed lethal holy shit.

And yes, I know that I had lethal with shadowcaster + oracle.
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>>157780832
pretty shitty with pyro
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>>157781005
Arcane blast, forbidden flame, the coin, AI, acolyte. You have synergy and you can squeeze additional spell damage off of Blizzard and Flamestrike.

It just works.
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WHO STILL WINNING MOST OF THEIR GAMES WITH THIS NIGGA?

>WIPE ONLY THE ENEMY BOARD
>BUFFS HIMSELF AND THE REST OF MY BOARD

FEELS GOOD MAN
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>>157781213
pretty sure it's terrible
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>captain greenskin
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>>157778334
Any particular reason this woman looks like she was created with Bella's Better Females?
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>>157781339
I opened this asshole right before standard hit so I got the 2 epic parrots for free

felt good man
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>>157778334
>people say hearthstone has better art than shadowverse
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>>157781445
actually crafted him just before standard to get the parrots
I regret nothing
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>>157781263
Based off of what? Excuse me if I'm a bit skeptical of "random guy talking out of his ass on the internet" but I have been burned before.
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BEN BRODE TELEPORTS INTO YOUR ROOM AND TELLS YOU THAT YOU CAN MOVE ONE CARD OF EACH KRAKEN EXPANSION ( OLDGODS, BLACKROCK, LEAGUE) TO STANDARD FOREVER

WHICH CARDS WOULD YOU CHOOSE
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>>157782090

Nzoth, Emperor Thaurissan and Reno Jackson
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>>157781709
I mained with reno mage to rank 5 last 2 seasons, took about 200 games in total

never felt like playing spells early was a particularly strong play
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>>157782090
go to bed timmy
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>>157782090
fandral
emperor
raven idol
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>>15>>157782174
>he wants nzoth
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>heroic tavern brawl

what a complete fucking scam. The fucking BEST decks in the game have like a 65% winrate, and you don't even come close to breaking even until like 8 wins. Play on ladder and see how close you get to 8 wins a row.

And it's literally going to be midrange shaman: the gamemode because no one is EVER going to try and play something different like midrange hunter or control warrior when you're paying an upfront cost of 10 fucking dollars.

What a god damn joke. Are they that desperate they feel the need to scam people?
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>>157782090

Totem Golem
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>>157782338
but think of the stories to tell your friends
think of the stream highlights
but most importantly think of the money
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>>157782338
>Are they that desperate they feel the need to scam people?
THEY ARENT TRYING TO TRICK PEOPLE!!!>>157768397


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFMxSsXWe8
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Will it be balanced if priest gets
1 mana 5/5
deathrattle summon 2 random allied minions who died this game for ur opponent
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>>157782756
it's not "allied" retard, it's "friendly"
and no your oc is shit and you are a fucking idiot for posting it
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Is there a bigger valuegasm than Fandral'd Nourish?
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>>157782338
>mfw people are trying to justify it by saying it's a competitive game mode so it's only for hardcore players.
Yeah it would be okay if this wasn't literally ranked arena.

And what the fuck is happening in the lower ranks ? Can't climb for shit this month what the hell.
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>>157782756
>all these people spouting 1 mana 5/5 memes
>implying it wouldn't make shaman even stronger when they malestrom it out
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>pay (P A Y) 10 dollars to play against tempostorm meta decks

are they absolutely fucking retarded? Why would you ever do this? Literally no one except streamers who make their living off HS will even attempt this.
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>>157782834
Honestly can't think of a more satisfying 2 card combo. Gadgetzan + conceal maybe.
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>>157783103
this doesnt even matter, its like every idiot fails to realize using the 3 strikes and you're out rule means only 33% of players at best will even have the ability to "break even" because the reward structure vs the cost of playing ratio is fucked
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>>157783107
>>157782834
not really up there and more of an arena combo but I really like moat lurker + evolve
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>>157782090
Reno Jackson. I don't really care about BRM, and I actively don't want anything from Old Gods.

I'd seriously take 3 cards from LoE if I could.
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HEY GUYS
HEY GUYS
HEY GUYS

I HAVE AN IDEA
GET READY

1 MANA 10/10 SHAMAN CARD
DEATHRATTLE SHUFFLE 30 OF THESE INTO UR OPPONENTS DECK

WHAT DO YOU THINK
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>Playing as Casino Druid against Casino Mage
>Down to fatigue
>I have a fat as fuck taunted Arcane Golem punching him in the dick
>He's only still alive because of double Ice Barrier
>He plays Jeweled Scarab
>What could he possibly hope to get from this
>Coldlight Oracle
>Deals enough fatigue damage to me to kill me on my next turn
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Heroic Tavern Brawl is like trying to throw a golf ball into a mason jar at 50 yards away.

Sure it is possible, and skill plays a factor into it. But the chances of it occurring are so slim and random that its not a "competitive" thing.

Heroic Tavern Brawl is no more competitive than playing against a friend with pride on the line. This
>Its a competitive tournament mode
Meme spouted by idiotic fanboys needs to end
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>>157782185
I'm going to guess that your list was just too greedy to benefit, in which case you aren't wrong about it being bad in your list, but you are wrong for making blanket statements about the card's quality in general based on just hitting rank 5 with a variant of the deck.

My deck is pretty much tempo mage with Reno. I hit rank 2 with it last month, and if I get motivated, I might try for legend this month, but I'm at 7 now and really struggling to get any motivation.
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>>157783745
reddit shitters eat up anything reynad says because they're too underage to see through the blatant narcissism
>>
GUYS
GUYS

PRIEST CARD
1 MANA 10/100
JOUST - IF YOU WIN JOUST YOU WN GAME
WHAT DO YOU THINK
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>>157783915
i like how everybody hated it until suddenly reynad and now its the bestest idea ever because MUH COMPETITIVE CHILDREN CARD GAMES
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any1 here want a hearthstone bud to play bo5s with and specific match ups and be practice partners??? (pushing legend this season)

i have 2 full golden decks so when u play me u can see the nice shiny cards :)

i want someone to play midrange shaman against me 50+ times please


(any1???)

EU
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>>157782834
fandral nourish then drawing some raven idols
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>>157784358
>i want someone to play midrange shaman against me 50+ times please
it's called play mode
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>>157782090
tomb pillager

use my 2 other picks to forever banish reno
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>>157775760
turns out the deck is trash
not sure if it's redeemable or not but I've retired it
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YOU DON'T EVEN GET 120 GOLD WITH 3 WINS

YOU ACTUALLY GET ~120 GOLD
~120
~
>~
~~~~~~~


HOLY SHIT FUCK JEWZZARD, I AM SELLING MY ACCOUNT AND NEVER COMING BACK
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>>157784617
Should've take those shieldbearers.
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>>157784769
Someone did the math for Heroic Brawl vs Arena

its insane how much better it is to just use that 1k gold on arena runs
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>>157784769
the tavern brawl is not for anyone. maybe that one guy who wants reddit points for getting 12 wins.
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>>157784795
maybe
but when you're running shieldbearers you might as well run shield slam and if you're running shield slam you might as well throw in shield block and justicar and at that point you should just throw out the entire deck and make it a standard c'thun control deck and the whole point was to try a different c'thun deck
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>>157784769
>streamers only the brawl
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>>157785051
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/611667-kolentos-cycle-cthun-warrior
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>>157785339
interesting
that deck is pretty similar to mine
but it goes for a more reactive worgen otk like build instead of my proactive tempo build
evidently that deck is a lot better but notably he only runs one shieldbearer
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>>157785127
>lets make a mode specifically for streamers to show off
>and get sniped
they even say this mode isnt for everyone but you can watch streamers

not realizing streamers are going to be fucked ad waste money/gold if they stream it
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>>157773158
>I don't understand why they didn't just have 2 big buttons when you click arena that says "Normal Arena" & "Heroic Arena"
BECAUSE IT TOOK THEM 2 YEARS TO ADD A SINGLE SHITTY LOOKING TRIANGLE BUTTON IN THE DECK SLOTHS YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD

This game is doomed.
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Let's say you go 3-3 in all your 7 arena runs.

The rewards for a 3-3 run are: 1 x Card Pack, 25-35 Gold and one of the following random rewards: 20-25 Gold OR 20-25 Dust OR 1 x Common card OR 1 x Rare card OR 1 x Card Pack. On average that would be around 50 gold, 15 dust and a pack.

So 7 runs is 350 gold, 105 dust and 7 packs. You can invest the 350 gold into another 2 runs, giving you 100 gold 30 dust and 2 packs, then you should have gold for another run, which is another 15 dust and a pack.

So all in all, if you decide to invest 1050 gold on Arena and go 3-3 every run, you can expect around 10 packs and 150 dust. Pretty much perfectly breaking even. But that's really the bottom of what you can expect. If you know Hearthstone fundamentals, like good trading, when to go face, etc. and use a draft assistant or a tier list, you can expect to do better than 3-3 on every draft.
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>>157784930
But in heroic brawl you can play shamans instead of mages :^)
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Heroic Brawl should have cost 100 gold and the ONLY reward for it should have been a special card back for 12 wins

THEN it would be a competitive mode and not a scam
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>>157784358
desu I'd love to, but I'm an NA player and my EU alt doesn't have enough gold to buy spirit claws
sux2suk
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>>157785818
kek if you buy 7 arena runs and retire them all before the first game that's over 800 gold worth of stuff on average or more than going 4 wins in the heroic brawl
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>>157786316
Holy shit are you me, I just wanted to grind ladder on US account with mid shaman but no money for claw and portal.
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>>157786223
I think it shoulda just been arena entry fee and arena rewards TBQH. Why is that so hard?
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>>157772509
>Lose to a Yogg being fucking Yogg
Sign me up.
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>>157774254
Just OTK him with C'Thun.
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>>157784358
sis#21704

add if u want to play bo5s and practice partner and things on eu
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>>157776894
>t2
>priest has 60 health
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So why aren't you playing this game already?
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>Kripp is unironically top tier
Maybe I'll meme him a bit less.
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>>157787197
t2
the priest has 60 maximum health, 30 current health

compare to warrior who has turn 0 infinite health
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>>157787227
Enjoy your shit game dude. Seriously man, why aren't you Kucks playing Animation Throwdown already?
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>>157787356
only because the amount of runs he does
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>>157782338
It is a scam, but sometimes you just get a nice winning streak.
If a shitter like me can do ti with Priest, than I'm pretty sure the high end legend player can do it more consistently.
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>>157787227
I have no doubt it has better game mechanics than Hearthstone.
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>>157787586
>1 mana 4/3
what the fuck?
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>>157787638
what rank are you
what 9 decks did you play against?
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>>157787356
Having the most 12 win runs just means you've played the most runs. And it's literally his job to play arena.

The wins average at the top doesn't actually give any sort of clarification of what their criteria for selecting those three players was also. Or even if those three are top of anything, or if there are any players in between those win percentages.

It's catering. Selective catering.
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>>157787613
Doing more runs hurts his average, it doesn't help.

>>157788018
>The wins average at the top doesn't actually give any sort of clarification of what their criteria for selecting those three players was also.
It's the top players with 100+ runs in the past 9 months.
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>>157787356
Hafu is better though, BattlePants is her alt

>>157788018
they clarified on reddit that these are the top 3 players that have the highest win average per run that have played at least 100 arenas during the 8 month period
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>>157787884
Was 6 at that time.
7 midrange shaman, mage and rogue. Got memed by Malyrogue.

Rez Priest has actually a nice matchup against midrange Shaman. I mean, nice for a priest deck. It's still bad generally.
With a bit of luck, a pro player can get lucky and go to 12 wins. If it actually works like arena as far as match making goes, than 0,6% of all people will get to 12.
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Uh, no one here is actually excited to pay $10 for a single round of Brawl, right?
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>play arena
>palladin with zombie chow turn 1 goes first
>2 dr 2s
>skill
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>>157788428
only blizzard employees that post here as anon

zeriyah needs to make a fucking trip
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>>157788428
Why is it even called Brawl? It's an Arena run with a constructed instead of drafted deck.

And yes, I am 100% excited to play Arena with shaman cancer.
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>>157768397
They wanted a tournament system and instead they got an intern to rehash the arena system. Then internally they jerk each other off going "wow 3 golden legendaries and 50 packs for $10!" It's fucking hilarious.

The best argument that I've heard come back for the entire thing is actual TCG tournaments and entree fees. While completely true it's similar structure where top walks away with a lot, but there's nothing here giving that tournament feeling. Nothing and it seems like there's not even a reward to show off your big dick for winning. Not even a card back.

So why would anyone bother with this?
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>>157788884
They haven't even introduced a 12-0 Arena card back yet.
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Every day until you like it.
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>>157789268
>>
>hafu is actually #2 Arena Player on her alt account BattlePants
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>>157789268
let me change your mind
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I unironically said "Based Reddit" for the first time ever today when I heard how they just helped Donald Trump.
And then I read people on reddit actually defending this blizzard jew "tavern brawl".

I just don't know how can people defend it. How can people be against the idea of Blizzard giving a free pack since we won't have a normal brawl that week? Literally how? It just doesn't make any sence. How can people be against card nerfs? I mean what the fuck?
>>
>>157789906
>unironically shouting memes
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>>157789906
>I unironically said "Based Reddit" for the first time ever today when I heard how they just helped Donald Trump.
Thats because /r/Donald or whatever the fuck it is called is just /pol/

They are using reddit to redpill normies to the corruption of the establishment and globalists
>>
Tfw dropped from rank 9 to rank 20 today and still can't win. What the fuck?
>>
>>157790242
Now that's a tilt. Switch to a brand new deck and I think you'll do better. Make a new one, if you have to. The variety always refreshes me and I play better until I stagnate all over again.
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>>157790329

I am changing between decks. I don't have many viable ones though, this game is frickin' expensive.
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>shaman cuck gets absolutely destroyed by my Yogg
>has 2 fire elementals on board + 2/2 healing totem
>play Yogg
>I'm left with a 3/6 yogg + 5/6 + 4 mana + 3 extra cards
>a recent opponent would like to be your 'friend"
>>
>>157790591
I hate shamans, but he's completely right.
>>
Guys help I want to climb, what kind of deck can I make with just the adventures?
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>>157790805
he's right that you can't play around yogg itself
but shaman is way worse than any deck that plays yogg
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>>157790843
control shaman
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>>157790970

I don't have Doomhammer or any decent legendaries. Not sure if you're just teasing me :(
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>All those """"midrange shaman""" tier 0 lists running WIIINDS instead of Doomhammer
>mfw winning every single mirror match thanks to based Doomhammer
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>>157773364
>English players all jump in next month
>they will never have the best cardback in the game
WEW
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>>157791431
MY FUCKING EYES HOLY SHIT
NEVER POST ANOTHER SHADOWSHIT SCREENSHOT EVER AGAIN PLEASE
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>>157791431
>dingdong icon
>dingdong cardback
I'm prepared
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>>157791371
>running winds or doomhammer in a 2 mana rockbiter game

heh, what are you rank 20?
>>
nude mods when
>>
THIS SHIT IS ACTUALLY TRIGGERING ME WHAT THE FUCK
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>>157791431
I can easily mod this to make it look decent, I wonder why the devs don't do it. Seriously, if this game didn't hurt my eyes, it would be 10/10
>>
>>157791862
they already exist

i want a klk mod that makes all the cards characters
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>>157792010
I for one welcome the return of huntertaker
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>>157792073
It's literally a mobile game run on a PC emulator. Have you seen HS's mobile client?
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>>157792145
are you shitting me
>>
>>157791862
it has existed for a long time
https://www.undertow.club/threads/hearthstone-nude-mod-wait-what.2999/
it even has a plugin for the deck tracker
>>
artfag back for more simple requests, did pic related a couple of days ago.
>>
My challenge today is play a friend. Who wants 80 free gold?
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>>157792073
>what is mobile ui
You're basically playing hearthstone with its phone ui.
As long as they make it look nice for steam all will be fine.
>>
>>157792238
I'd like to see more of these kinds of pictures itt desu
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>>157790591
>shamans you can beat with skill
Picking control warrior or freeze mage isn't a skill.
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>>157792238
I am absolutely sure I did upload the picture, so what the fuck?
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>>157792272
EU or NA?
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>>157792272
I do, what's your tag?
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>>157792468
NA. Post yr code and I'll add you
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>>157792290
>>157792164
>ui
I am talking about the HORRIBLE backgrounds and brightness.
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>>157792428
>implying freeze mage takes no skill
>>
>>157792445
this actually looks good anon, how about something like 'greetings traveler' or some popular phrase
>>
>>157792562
That background is the basic background people activate so their phones dont crash, of course it looks like shit.
>>
No one expects the third Anyfin Can Happen
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>>157791371
>doomhammer on 5
>lose all tempo
>opponent plays some 0 mana 5/5 taunts

sureee
>>
>>157792540
Epeolatry#1478
>>
>>157792537
Snorlaxsquad#1700

I'll be waiting
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>>157787356
Why don't they have anything on most picked classes/least picked classes?
>>
>>157792238
Secret Keeper trying to hide her giant dick
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>>157792849
>that 6 mana murloc in an anyfin deck
>>
>>157793060
It wasn't mine
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>>157792849
they do when the knight heals your for 10
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>>157792972
Mage / Priest

It would just be a waste of space since we all know that
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>>157792625
It takes more skill than shaman.
Otherwise, it's just drawing and praying.
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>>157792972
Because everyone with half a brain knows them
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>>157792972
Because it would just showcase how fucked the arena balance is as if the win rates and average wins arent telling enough.
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>>157793146
I used both my Knights on 30 health because muh control mirror
>>
>my opponent wins the joust on his 1 drop going first
>his murloc knight spawns another murloc knight
>arena SKILL
>>
>>157789906
Serious question, How did they help Donald Trump today?
>>
>>157792445
Hey, that was my request.
Thanks. It's looking good.

Anduin's face is saying it all. Just kill me already.
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>>157792238
you still have yet to make nude jaina
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>>157789906
>How can people be against the idea of Blizzard giving a free pack since we won't have a normal brawl that week?
>>
>>157792327
Valeera enjoying her thistle tea.
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>>157795231
They're missing the point.
It's not f2p players but new players that suffer
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>>157795231
>so many shills and cucks

thank god for 4chan, seriously, what the fuck happened to the internet over the last 9 years
>>
anyone know what Brian "Please don't call me a Blizzard shill" Kibler has to say about the brawl?
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>>157795680
>watching kibler
once I learned he was a bernout I bailed on that faggot tier nu male

he cant even procreate
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>>157795773
can't he?
he's got a wife
>>
Did i good?
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>>157795462
They are missing every point possbile.
For once, it's Blizzard that made the game f2p. There is absolutely no reason to blame the f2p player.
2nd, if people who are f2p player actually started buying shit, it wouldn't magically turn the game better and have a better pricing model. Blizzard would continue whale hunting and nothing can stop it. That's how f2p works. More people paying wouldn't make Blizzard get a better pricing model. It would just send Blizzard the wrong message. "Hey, the pricing is so low that even the nonWhales are buying stuff!"
3rd, what you said.
4th, the removed the freaking free stuff to add something that is being sold. Yeah, no, fuck you Blizzard. Not even half as many complaints would be thrown at Blizzard if they didn't try putting that gambling shit instead of the free brawl.
And my favorite, this is Hearthstone, not MTG. Blizzard made it many times perfectly clear that this is HS and they don't want it to be like MTG or any other good card game. So MTG can never be used as an example of "how good we have it" since it's more expensive in MTG.
Just entering an official MTG tournament usually nets you in some neat physical items that you can sell and get back most of your investment. And MTG actually has real physical value, you can resell your collection, you can give it away, you can trade it away.

If Blizzard and the fans can't accept criticism to HS in comparison to MTG, then they can't use MTG as a shield.
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>>157795231
>f2p offers nothing to blizzard
>implying p2p would play this shit game if they would have to wait 20 minutes for a match or play bots for the rest of their days
Why does these morons think that Blizzard is charity company?
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>>157795936
hearthstone is fucked because of all the fanboys that have defended the game and bought all the shit they made
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>>157790805
>>157790947
The thing is that, while you can't play around yogg, you can't play around a lot of things in the game. Yogg, freeze mage, combo rogue, these are strategies that forgo including cards that can grab and maintain board control for an unreliable chance of just oneshotting the other person.
Yogg is a 10 mana card with no stats, and since it can blow itself up and end its own bullshit, it's extremely fair. "How's it fair that someone can pay 10 mana to clear the board?" How's it fair hat someone can pay 5 or 7 mana to do it reliably?

Every deck that's meta right now outshines every other deck really fucking badly.Yog isn't even remotely meta anymore, and for every game you're going to get where someone wins with him, you're going to get 5 more where they lose in spite of (or because of) him.
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>>157795936
Yep
The mode would have been at minimum tolerated it it didnt remove the normal brawl. How retarded are they to even think that was ok?
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>>157796091
That's how Blizztards work. Worse than Sony, MS and Nintendo fanboys combined into one cancerous mass.

People think that f2p player bring nothing to the table, yet little do they know that f2p player and whales are more important than the Joe that pays a bit. f2p player make a huge chunk of the player base, giving whales the initiative to play the game and pay for it. The paying customer who aren't whales are so small in numbers compared to the f2p player that they alone can't give the initiative to the whales to stay. And they pay so little compared to the whales that they wouldn't leave even a dent in Blizzards bank account if they stopped playing.

This is coming from someone who has worked on some horribly priced f2p games that made big money.

Whales - main income for the developer
f2p player - main reason why the game is even played
p2p player who aren't whales - extra income, but not as important as the other two.
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>>157796541
Hello serb.
When are you going to save planet of battleboats?
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any miracoli players in this thread have any thoughts on how to use the deck's flex slots in shaman meta
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>>157796541
Just about every "f2p" player in any game at least picks up a fucking prepaid card or something at some point. You're retarded.
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>>157796983
asspained p2per spotted
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>>157796983
Actually the wast majority of f2p player never pay anything.
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>>157796874
tech cards arent going to save you

you can run harrison if you want though
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>>157797060
If you're counting third worlders, maybe.
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>>157796541
heroic brawl is a scam, theres nothing more to it than that

the only difference is idiotic blizzard fanboys are to blind to see it, and streamers suck up to anything blizzard does because it makes them money
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What, in your opinion, is the most rewarding memedeck to win with on ladder?
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>have fedora warrior in lethal
>he topdecks revenge and justicars the following turn
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>>157797154
>if you're counting a huge chunk of the playerbase, maybe
Are you literally retarded?
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>>157797060
I wonder what their test for being f2p would be?
The last thing I bought was the welcome bundle because it was an amazing value.
Before that I bought BRM because I wanted to save my gold for packs at the time.
Those are the only two things I've spent money on, and I likely won't spend another dime unless they come out with another welcome bundle quality deal.

I guess technically I'm a p2per but I feel very much like a f2per.
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>start to comeback after an EPIC game vs control warlock in arena
>game freezes and i see him pointing red arrows at my face

stories
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>>157797060
>majority of f2p player never pay anything
NO SHIT SHERLOCK
DID YOU DEDUCE THIS ALL BY YOURSELF?
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>>157796983
Yes, but most of dev's income in almost any f2p game comes from small amount of people who spends majority of their income on in game purchases.
It's like gambling.
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>>157797483
>Backpedaling this hard
Do you work for team 5?
You should.
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>>157797060
Because they stop playing after couple weeks.
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>>157797483
Are you retarded? Did you read the post I replied to? The anon said almost every f2p player buys something in the game at some point.
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>>157797545
f2p players don't pay anything by definition
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>>157797750
>>157796983
>>157797060
???
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>>157797229
C'thun Rogue with thistle tea, shadowcasters, emperors, and blades of c'thun.
Basically C'thun->shadowstep->C'thun next turn->Conceal is reliable finisher, in mid game you shit the board with copies of emperors in various forms.
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>>157797937
Just a bunch of retards saying shit, even though they have nothing to back their figures up.
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Heroic Brawl seems like an amazing way to generate bad experiences, unless they expect virtually no one to play it and just want it to be something people watch streamers play. It also seems completely counter to the claims that Blizzard just wants to cater to the casual crowd. Nobody who's casual, or isn't just net decking will have a fucking chance in this.
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>>157798331
>net deckers don't have a chance in p2p constructed
L
O
L
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why the FUCK aren't you playing the superior card game
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>>157798520
...What?
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>>157798331
This is why a tournament rewards system will not work in the skin of arena.
Tournaments work in large part because you know your opponents, you can prepare, and playing against them sitting directly across from you is an entirely different experience than playing against some cancerous fuck hiding behind a thrall mask.
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>>157798520
>What is reading comprehension

That's why whenever I meme I read what I'm greentexting twice to make sure I don't make my anonymous self out to be a total fucking retard.
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>>157798520

the fuck are you talking about? HTB is literally going to be nothing but net-decked migrange shamans
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>>157797992
could u post the decklist? i'm a newfag.
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i feel icky
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>>157798584
Don't competitive deck prices in that put magic to shame?
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>>157798748
As you can see, you get more (you)'s when you meme halff-assedly. No one actually pays attention to you on the internet UNLESS you act like a flaming fucking retard.
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Ok, so Kripp is guaranteed to do Heroic Brawl runs to get all those viewers, but will he give in and net deck, or play one of his shitty 50% winrate at rank 15 decks?
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>>157798924
>wanting people to pay attention to you.
That's why you're bad guy of the week on CSI and not the multi-season finale guy.
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>>157798584
The current shitty F2P card game power ranking:

1. Hearthstone
2. Shadowverse(this will move up to 1 if the PC client is good)
--POWER-GAP---
3. legends
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>>157799087
who cares, that faggot is going to die in the next year
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>>157799087
Either way it's going to be fucking stupid

If he net decks a shaman tier list it's going to be boring as fuck since his viewers don't like watching him play tryhard lists

and if he picks up his custom decks he's going 0-3 and that's the end of that
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>>157799142
Cute

got anymore? what does the moonspeak say?
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>>157798802
That's what I use right now.
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Is the Heroic Tavern Brawl happening this week?
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>>157799142
Everyone forgot about that Duel of Champions game? I had fun with it for a couple of months when it came out.
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>>157799528
No

Also, leeroy shenanigans
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>>157799607
I would play if my phone shared the collection with my PC. I love MTG.
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>>157798584
too jewish
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>>157799142
>Shadowshit
>better than anything
if you're a pedophile maybe
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>>157799776
I'm talking about Ubisoft card game, on Heroes Might and Magic VI license. It came out even on Playstation and Xbox, but never got phone version.
It was fun, but Hearthstone killed it (it came out over a year after).
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>>157799087
he couldnt do well even if he netdecked
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What's the best website for putting nice looking decklist screenshots together? The mobile client doesn't work well for that.
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>paladin
>plays a bunch of shit murlocs
>plays first anyfin
>plays second anyfin
>you lose no matter what

why is this allowed
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>>157799485
Thanks.
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>>157800401
just tank up dumbass
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>>157800401
because blizz loves "win the game on turn X" decks
we can't have games going all the way to fatigue, shaman phone players would quit
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>>157799141
The badguy of the week is usually a normal person with motivations that you can relate to.
Mult-season bad guy is usually some faggot, like that bulldyke on Bones who buried people alive.
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>heroic tavern brawl
>standard
>huge investment
>RNGstone
>"""""competitive"""""

It's literally just going to be midrange shamans isn't it?
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I feel like I haven't seen anything except netdecks in literal months.

In casual, low rank ladder, high rank ladder, you name it. Literally every single person is playing some netdeck like the fucking unoriginal faggots they are.
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>>157800902
MRGRGRLGLGLGL <inconceivable!>
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>>157800830
Do you really think all games should go to fatigue?
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Fuck tryharding. What are some of the most fun decks to play right now? I am currently playing a miracle/burgle/questing adventurer abombination and having a blast
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>>157800983
I always have more fun in control matches. Aggro is not fun at all, in any way, at any point, ever.

Literally, not playing is more fun than playing against aggro.
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>>157800957

Well no shit, sherlock. There are only so many combinations of cards that are "good", eventually when everyone figures out what these cards are, they'll all play them.

Why would someone play a 10 drop in an aggro deck?
Why would a control deck play lots of 1 drops?

there isn't really a lot of "originality" to begin with when Blizzard prints cards so good, its required everyone runs them?
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>>157801081

I've been messing with Reno Mage with Malchezar for extra spice, it has been pretty fun and it occasionally wins
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>Make mode that with casino like payouts to fleece idiots out of gold before expansion
>People defend this
LUL
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>go into ranked with druid
>can't interact with my opponent's board in any way
Why am I playing literally any other class when I could be running 2 lightning storm, 2 maelstrom portal, 2 spirit claws, 2 lightning bolt, 2 hex, and board presence on top of that? The only other decks that are even remotely appealing are cucktrol warrior with brawl and the various face control decks. Queueing with anything else feels like signing up to get my face pushed in by my nigger opponent's perfect shuffle luck
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>>157801236
I know, I know. It just makes me sad inside.
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>>157800983
no, i think most games should end long before fatigue
but i think people should have to work for that
not play fucking exodia-lite cards that instantly end the game

>>157800957
there just aren't enough cards to support anything else. with a card pool this limited we inevitably end up playing decks that look almost the same even without netdecking at all.
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>>157801441

play weeb-verse
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>>157801713
Net decks are just as prevelant there
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>it's another midrange shaman
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>0-0
>Opponent plays deathwing and medivh
>still win

mage is pretty good lol
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>>157800957
You need to be at Rank 18 during my lunch break.

And don't assume it is a netdeck just because I run Mana Wyrm, you haven't seen the jank yet.
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>>157802389
I've nearly tilted back down there thanks to midrange shamongs
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>>157802568
>Tilting to rank 18
Not even remotely possible unless you're in the double digit iq range or have an extra chromosome or two
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I went to the shadowverse thread and everyone is bitching about how 80 percent of ladder is the same fucking "heaven" deck or some shit. Their general is literally just as salty and shit as hsg but with pedobait. Holy fuck.
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>>157802782
My refusal to play netdecks contributes as well.
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>>157802832
because they're the same fucking people
nobody in real ranks cares about haven, the real S tier cancer is forest, but all you hearthtards wouldn't know shit about that since you're all in shitter ranks from being terminally retarded
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>>157803072
Dont you come here acting all superior just because you play s-tier decks on pedostone
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Is heroic brawl permanently replacing tavern brawl?
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>it's midrange shaman
>it's tempo mage
>it's murloc pally

If you play one of these decks, fucking kill yourself.
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>>157803554
Yea.
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>>157803604
>if you play shaman or one of these two perfectly fair decks, kys
What deck do you even use, if you're complaining about fucking tempo mage?
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>>157803935
Irrelevant, I'm just sick to death of those three. I wish they would be permanently deleted.
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>>157802027
if you stop playing the game you can't play against them
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>>157800401
You know how I beat them. Use bloodlust. Still agree, the combo its bullshit. It's either OTK them quick enough or get fucked in the ass.
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>>157803604
BY THE HOLY LIGHT
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Im bored of playing reno decks and want to try miracle.


Would it be worth crafting the 2 preparations for the deck if i dont even have edwin? Im planning on pulling leeroy shenanigans for the deck finisher.
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>>157803604
tempo mage and murloc pally are patrician decks
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>>157804406
like youre already going to struggle playing vs shaman and hunter while having all the legendaries and epics

why would you put yourself through the pain of trying to play without key cards
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>>157803604
>play a "competitive" mode
>but oh wait, dont play the good meta decks guys
fucking scrubs
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>>157804406
>Would it be worth crafting the 2 preparations
can't possibly answer this without knowing how much dust you have
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>>157804769
>t. midrange shaman and former secret pally
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>reynad once again bitching about getting beaten by a "shit" deck and whining about ghosting
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>>157804030
>irrelevant
Answered that question.
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>>157804615
Well im not playing these subpar decks for my winrate anon. All id be missing is edwin.
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>>157804807
1500 and a a handful of junk legendaries that im reluctant to dust
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>>157804406
yes
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>>157805084
just start working towards it if it interests you

i dont really see the issue unless youre worried about something like getting a prep from your season reward
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>>157805210

never be reluctant to dust shitty cards.

what purpose do they serve just sitting there? I mean if you're trying to round out your collection, and already have every good legendary from every set, then I can see holding onto the shitty ones
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it's so fun to play on an alt and beat shitters with chillwind yeti when they have shit like varian wrynn
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>>157805343
tfw beating eu rank 15 priests with leper gnome wolfrider mage
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>>157805343
Amazing how yeti used to be golden standard for vanilla creatures yet now every creature is supposed to have premium stats and good effect on top of that.
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>>157805570

I honestly think Blizz is shooting themselves in the foot by listening to their fans.

At this point, if a card isn't over-stated and has a broken ability, nobody plays it.

I know min-maxers are a part of every competitive scene, but the fact the blizz has to over-design all of their cards to cater to whiners or else there's a shitstorm is really concerning
>>
Reynad's meltdowns are the best.
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>>157804867
>not getting to rank 5 with the fastest way possible
why torture yourself
>>
>play anti-aggro/shaman control at rank 5
>queue into Malchezzar C'thun Rogue and Dragon N'zoth Paladin
Why even bother laddering when it's just random bullshit and Shamans between 25 and legend?
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>>157804912
thats why i watch him, the salt is insane
he does nothing but bitch 24/7, much more entertaining than the boring basic bitches

>>157805343
>varian
>better than yeti
>>
>Burger rogue VS Fedora

Is there a better feeling?
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>>157805920
Why is torturing others better?
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>>157806000
>bitch when you get matched against meta decks
>bitch when you get matched against unconventional decks that use "ok" cards
What do you want to be matched against?
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>>157805920
"playing" secret paladin for more than four games straight is torturing yourself
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Any suggestions on which cards to put in besides Onyx Bishop, which I'll get with gold in a few days?

Don't want to buy LoE since it'll rotate out real soon.
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>>157806492
if he could play against rank 25 people with no arms all day he would
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>>157806000
>Why even bother laddering when it's just random bullshit and Shamans between 25 and legend?
rank 5 is the rank 20 of gold league
you wouldn't run into that random bullshit at rank 7 and you wouldn't run into that random bullshit at rank 3
get out of "shitter ranks" (metaphorically speaking) and you'll have the game preserve you wanted
>>
80g quest

EU

iillliillill#2854
>>
"An enema I assume."
Assume, lol.
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man, mage is a lot faster than i remember
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>>157806642
you done it ?
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>>157806732
did you fucking millhouse
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>>157806806
yes
>>
>>157806492
I'd like to not get unlucky enough to queue into decks that specifically counter non-greedy control lists but lose 100% to the top 3 decks on ladder. I don't think that's too unreasonable.
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>>157806732
Millhouse sure is a good card huh
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>>157806562
I don't like Shady madness in Res decks. Fucks up your pool.

I'm playing the version with no auchenais, but with barnes and rag. Works great and is fun as hell when it works. It's definitely not a reliable deck but it's a very enjoyable one to pilot.
>>
>>157806732

don't be a fucking retard and play millhouse then. what did you expect?
>>
Are there any tempo mage decks that are actually good?

Tried bbgun's, barnes and some other shitty netdeck and I'm having success with none of them. Dropped from R4 all the way back to R8
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>>157807321
no its not a real deck
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>>157807321
yes, you're just a shitter
>>
Jaina needs to be nerfed to the ground the cunt walls me so hard and I can never fucking Reach rank 21 BEcause the game fixes me to fight her
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>>157807517
With the exception of freeze, Mage is about the most fair fight you can expect in the meta. You just need to git gud.
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>>157807321
no it's fucking garbage
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>>157807321
yes, tempo mage should be pretty good right now
if you're failing try switching to reno mage for a little while

>>157807201
i think when someone plays thrillhouse against mage, 30 to face is exactly what they expect
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>play control warrior
>literally cant win a single game
>play dragon warrior and just click on face
>10 game win streak
Is there something wrong with my brain or is this game just complete shit?
>>
>>157807747
>get random cards
>deal random damage to the opponent and his minions
>kill him turn 5
epic
>>
What's with all the QQ'ing about Anyfin Pally, I don't think i've seen it played on ladder since standard hit other than when I play it
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Roster poll for /hsg/'s participation in the /vg/ League 7 has ended. Thank you to everyone who voted!

The final roster of /hsg/'s greatest memes to take the soccer field is as follows;

>Medal Strikers
WIIIIIIIIIINDS! - Gold, Captain
Barnes - Gold

>Medal/Starting Midfield
Punished Yogg - Silver
Reno Jackson - Silver
Zeriyah Nudes
477

>Starting Defense
YOU FACE JARAXXUS
“””Midrange”””
LIVE, INSECT!
Fucking Shieldbearer

>Starting Goalkeeper
Ice Block

>Bench Midfield
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
EVERYONE, GET IN HERE!
NEXT ROTATION FOR SURE
HAHAHAHAHA!
MalyGod
Dies to Fiery War Axe

>Bench Defense
Implosion Guy
Is Frodan Gay?
Fandral Tier
HAH, >Priest
THE MIGHTY MILLHOUSE MANASTORM

>Bench Goalkeeper
Bolf Ramshield B O L F B O I S WHERE WE AT?


I will keep the general updated with game times and stream links. Thank you again, and we'll see you in a few weeks!
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How about 1 mana 10/10: Overload (9). It's basically 10/10 stats for 10 mana so it's balanced, right?
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>>157790116
This. /r/T_D is basically a /pol/ colony at this point, and a successful one at that.
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>>157808436
>maelstrom can now summon a 10/10
now THAT would be a story i would tell my friends
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Ok, what if, instead of just overloading for 2, he actually destroyed 1 or 2 mana crystals like Felguard.
Balanced now?
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>>157808781
No because then it would be a warlock card.
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>>157798584
>all the cards are the exact same 5 elves/argonians/khajit/imperials/whatever and have the exact same voices
>RNG mechanics (if the top of your deck is X get value, deal damage to a random enemy, summon a random X-drop, prophesy, etc)
>almost no interesting card effects, it's all conditional +stats/keyword shit
>actively punishing you for hitting face, forcing stalemate grinder matches
>disgustingly broken legendaries

The gameplay system is interesting but I question whether the card designers have any qualifications whatsoever.

>>157799142
RIP Mojang Scrolls and Runescape Chronicles, it would have been pretty cool to see those take off.
>>
"Also if there's no Tavern Brawl rules, it's fucking stupid. So there's that." -Kripp 2016
>>
>>157799959
>weebshit
>pedophilia
they have giant tits and asses
>>
>>157799959
Look where you are, m8.
>>
Bit the bullet and crafted the preparations for a miracle deck. Ive played 4 games and haven't drawn an auctioneer once.

Cold blood leeroy is putting in some serious work though.
>>
LoE > Naxx > Whispers > BRM > TGT > GvG > Kara

Is this roughly accurate?
>>
So what characters do,you guys want as a hero skin? Legit question.


>>157810210
What are you rating them on? Impact.. fun or what?
>>
>>157810210
LoE > everything
honestly i wish all the cards from LoE were just added to the classic set, were losing so many cool legendaries next rotation
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>>157810324

I want Kripp and Reynad as a skin and their emotes are their usual complaints

"Perfect fucking answer"

"Of course he gets so fucking lucky"

And such
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>>157809428
I agree, it's fucking retarded.

Also the most skilled Brawl ever was crossroads because of the many decks and counters to other decks you could create.
They could use that particular Brawl for the Heroic event and see some really skilled shit by the "pros".
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>just your average arena deck

Junkbot from a lowroller firelands portal.
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>>157808781
>destroy mana crystals
>balanced
yeah because felguard and shit see so much play, right?
balanced for the rafaam fight, maybe
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>>157810541
crossroads would actually have been a pretty good choice, much rather crossroads than constructed
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Jaina needs to be FUCKING NERFED SHE got a random roll and got fucking DEATHWING Like what the fuck!? I Will never get to rank 21
With this fucking Cunt
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>open /r/hearthstone
>see Reynad has made a rant basically calling everyone a bunch of casual pussies for not wanting to spend TEN DOLLARS to play Shaman netdeck, the format
>there are people actually defending this retarded, apologist, literal fanboy/shill position by couching it in the fact they can WATCH SOMEONE ELSE PLAY IT LIKE A KEK INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THE GAME THEMSELVES
God, Blizzard fans are so fucking retarded, they will bend over backwards and take an arm up the ass for the sake of "positivity" when they have every right to be angry about the abuse they've been taking from Team 5 and their Jewry

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/583bn2/reynad_talks_about_his_thoughts_on_heroic_tavern/

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/583bjh/this_subreddit_complains_too_much/
>>
>Kripp basically putting Reynad and other Blizzard shills on blast

Oh boy, this is amazing
>>
>>157811000
Felguard is just a shit card, really just 1 stat better than Fierce Monkey without beast synergy.
Flamewreathed Faceless would be +4/+2 for 1 more mana, it would be played still
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>>157811630
>reynad sucks blizzard's dick
>reddit sucks reynad's dick
it's the circle of life
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>>157811630
The only thing wrong with the brawl is it isn't a closed pool tournament. The meta being bad is separate to the brawl itself, and you can already see probably the 3 decks that are going to dominate the brawl.
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>opponent plays yogg
>first spell shadowstep himself
>concedes
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>>157811630
>distinguishing between """"casual"""" and "'""competitive"""" hearthstone players
love this meme, soon well have competitive coin toss championships
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>>157812426
Yeah, I really thought that it would be like a mega arena, you had like, 20 packs or something like this to create a deck out of and you would play with it
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>>157811636
just tuned in
what did he say?
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>>157811636
link please
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>Reynad
Whats up with the "im totally chill cool dude" act? He seems like a hothead
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>>157813559
he is a massive narcissist and sometimes manages to ide it better than other times
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>>157813559
He clearly has rage issues and actively tries to suppress it when being recorded. Sometimes his act slips up
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man this shit just grinds my gears
i top decked an assassinate and got prep value for probably the only time in this run, but goddamn we did not need any more random portals, the variance is absurd
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>blizzard could've made a swiss system for the heroic brawl
>they instead go the arena route because expecting people to sit at their computer for an hour of their time is hard

really gets those neurons firing huh?
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>>157813559
I love it when he plays a deck and goes like:
>immediately start playing X deck and I get the worst match up

Can't people play decks? Not everyone is trying to snipe you, no one gives a fuck.

Btw got banned for putting: excuses Kappa, guess he was triggered
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The people who are aiming for the 12 wins aren't aiming for it for the packs or even the golden legendaries, they're aiming for it to prove themselves. And you can't put a monetary value on proving yourself.
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>>157813954
>they instead go the arena route because expecting people to sit at their computer for an hour of their time is hard

This is one of the bigger setbacks of arena for me. Doing runs just takes too long, and I will not put so many hours into something that relies too much on luck
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>>157813559
>>157813656
>>157813709

Watching him lose his head because of the chat is the reason I watch him. He even called out his own mods and said they weren't doing anything and should start to ban people

clips dot twitch dot tv/reynad27/GentleGaurPanicBasket
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>reynad complaining about shaman cards
>plays barnes, pulls highmane
speaking of disgusting cards...
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>Reynad: "I hate every deck in the game"
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What decks are you bringing to Heroic Brawl?
I'm thinking either Control Warrior or Priest
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>>157814994

Gotta agree with the giant forehead on this one
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>>157814994
this guy is pretty much me. no matter what my opponent is playing i just think "fuck this retard and his cancer deck"
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>>157815145
tempo mage desu
decent against shaman and hunters, beats most current warriors
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Will Aheroic brawl be standar or while?
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>>157815412
standard obviously
blizzard doesn't give a fuck about wild
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>>157815412
are you ok
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>>157815145
Midrange shaman of course.

Even the straight up teched counter decks only get a 53/55% winrate against it.
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>>157815145

I have a gut feeling most people will play aggro or CW, so I might bring CW myself.
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>>157815546
>>157815524
I didn't know... I just thought since tavern brawls were usually wild... oh well then.
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>>157815683
Was thinking bringing midrange shaman because it has a fair matchup against CW. Should I tech in a healing wave just for those aggro matchups?
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>>157815145
aggro priest
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anyone got a good deathrattle shaman list for wild?
really itchin to fuck around with nzoth, KT, and thaddius
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So, how do you counter midrange shaman as midrange shaman?

That's going to be the top priority in the coming brawl.
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>>157816278
honestly, you don't
no real good tech options beyond harrison
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>>157816278
He's right: >>157816372

Play style wise: you want to mulligan for a throng start, you might want to set up for a bloodlust ITK without over commitment, and remember, the last one to lost run out of materials (cards) will be fucked since shaman has no comeback aside from board clear and no healing.
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>Thought I could request a new daily quest
>Instead I delete it
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>157816929
>Instead I delete it
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>>157816929
You can't delete a quest. There's a bug that makes it look like you can re-roll a quest after you already have, but instead only makes it look like it's gone. Click the quest log again and you'll find the quest.
Rest assured squishy anime girl
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>>157816278

squires
second storm
harrison

that's all
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>>157817307
problem with squires is its hard to find things to cut for em
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>>157817307
Squires are shit. How do they help in the mirror?
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>>157814994
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>>157817519
What better way to destroy something you hate.
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>>157817503

doesn't die to bolt/claws
same reason why some lists run crack instead of bolt, better to be able to remove 4 hp minions (drake, harrison, golem) in mirrors which are problematic that need sp bolt or claws/bolt + portal
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>>157817519
>reynad created zoo
nice meme
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>>157817676
It'll just get picked off by weapon/totem/trogg/golem and basically does nothing to improve your position, besides -1 to golem which is somewhat relevant i guess. The problem is you dedicated 1-2 cards for the squire, and your opponenet removes each with less than one card, or it gets swallowed in board clears. It was good prior because shaman was faster or had a lower curve, and also because at some point you were going to burst with rockbiter, so the sticky minion was also relevant. Now it's all about who can use their 4 board clears better. They can easily afford to sit and hero power for three turns, and then squire just becomes shit. If they didn't, squire just does noting relevant. There's always flametongue, and it's never really a terrible card obviously, it's just not good enough.
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man this shit is so fun
it needs some actual card draw though, without lifetap it's impossible to win on ladder
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>>157789585
i am undefeated :^)
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>>157817676
crack is bad since it can't go face, so it makes bad matchups (ie freeze mage) even worse

in this meta a lot of decks play from the hand
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>>157818560
>using murlocs as intended

look at this retard trying to have fun
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>>157817798
In Asia, they don't call it Zoo. They call it the "Reynad Deck".
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>>157819206
k
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big dick plays right here
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>>157819451

That's some next-level shit, now he can SWD it
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>>157819637
Why would he swd his own minon
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>>157820072
Should I be able to tell at a glance which played owned the Millhouse
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>>157820072
>>157820196
yes, everyone played on curve
>shaman: millhouse
>priest: tinkmaster
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>>157820196
Tinkmaster is red, Millhouse isn't.
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>craft tirion because frustration in finishing paladin dominance
>actually lose WORSE than before

fuck, should have known better. just a dead card until turn 8 which just gets hexed anyways.
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>>157782338
>wah, for one week they're putting up a mode for competitive players that like risk and not wacky random bullshit. It's a scam!
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>HS streamers would rather take the viewer loss than play Hearthstone
>The one thing they look forward to Blizzard backpedaled on and delayed it
>More card games coming out to compete with HS

Really makes you think. Now Ben Brode will actually have to do something.
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>excited to blow my gold on priest memes for ultimate 12 win glory
>'what? no its not THIS week! silly boys ;^)"
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>>157821575
>HS streamers would rather have fun than play Hearthstone
Fixed it for you.
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>>157821805
>Thinking anyone will get 12 wins

It's rigged.
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>opponent cabalists two ice blocks
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>big streamers moving on
>off season for ladder points so no incentive to ladder for pro players that are mid-low level streamers
>no one moving in to replace them

it had a good run
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Every time I'm watching Sjow at top legend ranks, around ranks 1-150 every single match is involving shaman or druid. So ridiculous.
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>>157822271
>oponent's tome generates him 3 more tomes
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>>157823029
>which each give him an ice block
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>>157823082
And brode thinks that going to fatigue is bad.
I mean seriously. That's the only way to beat those ice block fuckers.
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>>157823185
yeah that's what bothers me about freeze mage
it's the exact opposite of everything brode keeps saying he wants
like pic related
but he never nerfs it even when he's nerfing classic cards because he feels like it
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>it's a priest keeps taking my cards episode
just fuck off already those are my cards who the hell even still plays priest god damn
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What do you multitask Hearthstone with, /hsg/?
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>kripp still hasn't killed himself
30 years old and he sits in front of a computer complaining about a casual children's card game based mostly on luck. when will he wake up and noose himself?
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streamers contacted to not play shadowverse on steam release day? are they fucking real
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>>157817519
I gotta call bullshit on that Patron invention I could swear many people thought of it before he did, the most famous players with that deck are all from Europe and Asia.

>>157824306
He looks so uncomfortable in that loft, I keep worrying he's going to bump his head now. He can't grow a beard for shit and won't shave, he'd look so much younger, like instead of 38 he'd look 30.

I just think he could spend some of his money on a style coach or a vegan chef who can cook for him right and give him proper nutrients and make his skin and muscles look better, he'd be doing great.
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>>157824403
[sources cited]
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>>157824097
Waifuposting on /a/
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>>157824551
Can't believe people unironically reward him for his self destructive, unproductive behavior.
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>Really enjoy playing constructed
>dont have alot of gold and think I'm good enough to make a profit off of arena
>I dont enjoy arena at all, and am not great at it

Its there a way to magically git gud at arena or at the very least enjoy it?

I really want to get more cards to play different constructed decks but hell if I know how to get the gold.
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>>157825315
Use the most powerful card in the game
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Are there statistics on how much money Blizzard makes from people who purchase Arena runs with cash?
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Fuck can we get the expansion already?

Karazhan meta has been incredibly dull from the very start
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What decks counter Midrange Shaman?
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>>157825879
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/matchup-chart-data-reaper-report/

Freeze Mage. CW is slightly favourable
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>>157825879
midrange shaman
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>>157825986
So CW is the way to go in the brawl?
>implying you won't run into 3 huntards in a row
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>>157826087
I'd just play Midrange Shaman
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I wonder what Asians think about the heroic brawl.
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>>157825986

Damn, Midrange Shaman's pretty crazy.
I'll probably do two runs of Heroic Brawl with Control Warrior and Midrange Shaman
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>>157826087
Better to have a 50% chance against Shaman and great match ups with everyone else than a 51.9% winrate against them with CW and have shittier overall match ups

>>157826196
Don't they get really good support with all these extra data and shit Blizzard gives them? They seem to be way more into the competitive side despite the game being mainly bullshit RNG
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>>157825315
Are you using Heartharena? It literally drafts the decks for you if you're too shit and your supposed to pick mage everytime.
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Every fucking pack. Every single fucking pack this faggot 5 dust cunt stares at me.
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How do we fix Druids?
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>>157826386
Would a 4-mana 2/7 Taunt Power Creep be viable
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>>157826540
Sounds like a worse Deathlord honestly
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>>157826087

CW and druid were my picks for heroic brawl
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>>157826515
>Fix druids when shaman still exists

No we tried that last patch and everything is still fucked.
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>>157826515
Every class should be as strong as Druid. Great, but not oppressively so
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>>157826736

but anon, there always has to be a 9th class who is almost exclusively priest
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>>157826768
Isn't Dragon Priest doing alright now?

And by alright I mean bad but not utter trash like what priest has been experiencing lately
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I know I sound like a faggot but what's the best channel on youtube that will teach me how to get gud? I just played the game for the first time on monday and I like it so far. Should I just skip this and go to shadowverse?
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>>157826870

otk priest does better than dragon and res is stronger against cw/druid than dragon
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>>157826870
Gaara just reached legend with Dragon Priest here is the decklist.
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>reno paladin pyro+equality my anyfin board
Poor guy, must have been the first time he tried it.
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>>157826950
krippO
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>>157826950
>Should I just skip this and go to shadowverse?
Get out while you still can.
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can't fucking decide what's more annoying

Shaman cards playing so well onto eachother

Or this FUCKING FAGGOT CLEARING UR ENTIRE BOARD WITH MIRROR IMAGE, COIN AND ARCANE ARROWS
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>>157826950
>Should I just skip this and go to shadowverse?

Leave while you can nobody likes this game even the ones that still play it.
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>>157826950
Watch Trump's Basic Teachings and his deck teachings if you want to watch something on Youtube. You can learn a lot of basics on the sites in the OP and Reddit's Hearthstone subs as well. Watching streamers can also teach you things. Kripp, Kibler, Strifecro, Kolento, Firebat are some people you can search on Youtube and Twitch.

Keep playing the game only if you like it, I've stuck around with it for years. There's a new expansion card set being revealed in 2 weeks as well which is an exciting time. Shadowverse is good but its new, mobile online and lacking in a lot of resources right now. I personally think its fun but not as enjoyable as Hearthstone. Try it now, or wait until its Steam release in the coming month.
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>>157826870
It's decent
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>>157827318
Shit I don't remember Tempo Mage being that good. Its been solidly Tier 2 for so long
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Is Control Warrior worth playing at the moment?
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>>157827318
>cw in tier 3
told you guys
warrior sucks
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>>157827318
What is aggro mage?
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>>157827426

>you will never have annika cosplay as mercy and reverse trap anduin while you play hs
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>>157827426
Its pretty solidly meh.

People are playing it because it doesn't get crushed by Shaman and is 50/50 with Druids and Mages. Problem is its so weak to Hunter and other Warrior archetypes
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>>157827481
Old school aggro freeze mage
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>>157826284
Thanks anon, I just checked it out and it looks really nice
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>>157827407
Babbling Book and Firelands Portal are really fucking good. Its popular as fuck too since it doesn't cost much to build. I think Firelands Portal and Forgotten Torch are freebies from the adventures?
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>>157827430
cw doesn't suck

it's just that the game is too much aggro

Watch in next rotation, we will have a pretty control board since all of the early game cards will be removed
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>>157827908
cw is excellent against aggro

what it loses to is hunter, miracle, anyfin, control priest. which aren't all that common
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>>157828159
Hunter is very common. Hunter is the sole reason cw is shit right now.
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>>157827908
Rip Justicar though
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>>157824682
ben just go to sleep
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>>157827908
>we have too much aggro

Aggro is dead. I know that you disgusting cucktrol warrior scum consider "aggro" anything slower than your disgustingly slow deck, so basically everything, but that doesn't make them aggro.
If aggro was alive, control warrior would prosper because it counters aggro.
Good midrange decks counter control warrior.
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So, Reddit is currently begging Brode to ban some guy who reached legend 1 because apparently he asked his opponent to concede in the match that brought him legend 1 and the dude accepted.

What the fuck is wrong with the HS community?
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FUCKING """"""""""""""HEROIC TAVERN BRAWL"""""""""""""""
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>>157828414
yet kripp got legend after 5 concedes when the opponent had lethal on board :)
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>>157811681
Faceless isn't played as it is because Shaman has many better minions than that. Nerfing him by removing the Trogg overload synergy and having him permanently overload you certainly won't make him see any play at all. At least until rotation by which time Shaman will be a dead class without Trogg, Golem, Valiant and what not.
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>>157828414
>reddit

But also because HS is a game for children
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>>157814172
>And you can't put a monetary value on proving yourself.
apparently blizzard can
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>>157827908
>it's just that the game is too much aggro
The game is the least aggro its ever been for a long long time. What aggro decks are there left? Facehunter and Aggro Shaman are dead, Zoolock is weak (but will eventually bounce back like it always does), contemporary Tempo Mage isn't even close to aggro and Pirate Warrior is rare and not very good
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>I lose an arena match because I didn't start the game so my opponent played his north sea kraken early
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>arena requires skill

le xd
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>>157828467
just awful
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>>157829071
guess I got outplayed

fucking hell I hate this retarded game
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>there will never be a way to build a hate deck that can stomp god draws
Why is this allowed?
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>>157829156
just dont play for a week and wait for shadowverse realeae thats what im doing and i feel pretty happy
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>>157829180
not fun for ben and mike, they hate getting their shit shoved in
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It was entertaining watching priest players' souls get crushed during Whispers' card reveals. They knew they were losing everything and were hoping for good cards. But they just got memes.

Hopefully they get shafted again.
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>>157829305
This card is great against councilman and even catches the new imp
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>>157829071
>>157829156
It does require skill. The fact that some people regularly get a certain number of wins means that it's not pure luck.
Sure, luck of the draft plays a big role, but so does the way you draft and you play. There is a reason why Hafu has 2nd place in the US Arena chart with just 100 games, yet some people played several hundreds in 9 months and aren't even close.
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>>157829394
That card is fucking garbage and saw exactly no play even when zoo was the best deck.
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>>157826736
no, druid is not even remotely well-balanced
it has overall weak cards but relies on pulling off abusive combos for absurdly brutal turns with no possible counterplay, eg clear board, draw 5 cards, drop 2 8/8s, 28 to face from empty board, etc

i guarantee if shaman was removed tomorrow, this entire general, reddit, etc would be bitching about druid 24/7
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>>157829305

the few times I got this off it was game winning
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>>157829394
I truly feel bad for priest players
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>>157829394
Great, now you have a 4 mana answer to half the board that is beating your face in, in one specific matchup against an unpopular deck.
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>>157829305
That card isn't half bad with the midrange totem shaman dominating the meta. But I'm teching Mass Dispell against them in my Rez Priest.
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>>157829501

>players will never, ever fear turn 6 cabal again
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>>157829434
>first game
>hunter wins because he played first
>second game, another hunter with 4 secrets up with that bullshit card, I guess he had luck with the draw I guess
>3rd game, mage gets a pretty sweet weapon with blingtron, uses it to finish me off, I had lethal on board that turn, but nah

Literally, I am done with this game. It's the same shit, all over again. Fuck this game, I'm glad I didn't waste any money on it, guess that's the reason why all my arenas end up in such a fucking joke that my average deck is around 50 with heartharena
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>>157827908
>cw doesn't suck
>it's just that the game is too much aggro
no, not at all, this is the opposite of true
CW is a hardcore lockdown deck that preys on most aggro decks
the reason it's not viable is because it gets blown right the fuck out by every single combo deck

HS doesn't have too much aggro for it, it has too much combo
too many decks that challenge you to kill them before turn X or armor out of their damage potential
if you can't do either of those, you die. Period.

CW suffered massively from the nerfs because they slowed down the game
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>>157829451
>28 damage from hand
Cute.

If only I wasn't retarded and realized I have Innervate in hand, I might have won that game. But I was tilting hard and sleepy as fuck. Just wanted to get the quest done.
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>>157829180
how would that even be possible short of adding a card that lets you mulligan both hands? though personally i'd love that
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>rolling 4 searing totems in a row
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>>157829761
Old Illidan if I recall correctly.
Both player would discard 3 cards and draw 3 cards.
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>>157829761
A spell that shuffles your opponents hand into their deck and draws them a new hand plus one card.
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>>157829839
I kind of wonder if tempo/aggro decks would play Old Illidan.
>Empty hand
>Draw 3 cards
>Your opponent discards their removal
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why does barnes?
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>>157829928
control decks would play it too
>discard 3 cards
>draw 3 cards
>your opponent discards the face damage they've been saving up
>your opponent concedes

>>157829936
because tuskarr wasn't enough RNG
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>>157830073
But that would disrupt them and that's not nice
>>
thijs vs reynad bo17 for the celestial invitational on the tempo storm channel coming up in 10 minutes
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>>157830529
thanks andrzey
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>>157830529
who cares, reynad is a faggot cuck that cant win a tournament to save his life

cant wait to watching him never break even in the heroic brawl and cry about it
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>>157829928
They would. So would control decks. It shits on combo decks and even control decks, and shaman specficially is completely open to running something instead of fire elemental/harrison because the whole idea is you want it to do something before it gets hexed. It's sort of like a better loatheb. Dealsdamage through fatigue or sets the clock forward in fedora matchups, activates discard cards, and can basically be used to just draw 3 in tempo decks. Any deck that would have run boom would run this prob except combo decks.
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>>157830557
I guess the balance patch worked.
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>>157830585

>not watching him lose a bo17 to a guy he hates
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>>157830728
Why does he hates Thjis? The guy is basically autistic, he means no harm
>>
>>157831148

no one likes the dutch or their small, foamy beers
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>>157831148
because he is better than reynad and people praise him

anyone that people say is a great player reynad automatically hates and tries to put down
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>>157831148
he hates all yuros
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So, they announced that there would be an announcement on the fourth. How soon after do you think it will be for the expansion to drop?
Also, OC.
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>>157832043

within a month, gvg was mid december if I remember right, loe was out basically 2 weeks after blizzcon

so it's not too far out until shaman gets a perfect turn 5 and 7 to compliment its god level turn 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6
>>
Reynad is the best player in the world by far.
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>>157832043
It took 6 weeks for Whispers to come out (March > April), and a week for League (November)
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>10 win win streak as discolock
>face the first "midrange" shaman
>lose
What a surprise.
>>
what is with female casters and terrible mikes

>>157830607
we really need anti-combo cards
we have anti-aggro, anti-midrange, and anti-control stuff, but we have basically nothing against combo in general (only niche stuff like eater against freeze).
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>>157832273
The anti combo card is when Emperor T rotates out
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>tfw 5-0 with a beast/menagerie druid deck in arena

This is satisfying beyond belief.
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>>157832456
Yeah, the menagerie cards are quite good in arena just because you get stuck with the weird mishmash of tribes. It's alot of fun.
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>when you've played so much druid you can finish hands-free
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>Reynad 1-3

KEK and this faggot pretends he was excited for the Heroic Brawl
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>>157832885
banned
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>>157768139
Reminder that everytime you pay for Heroic Tavern Brawl or packs, 80% of the money go towards terrorists.
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>>157832821
>playing a card game with hands


fucking pleb
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>>157833156
did you get banned in the chat for saying something?
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>>157833224
Stupid infidel. We shall conquer you, inshallah.
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>4-1
>>
reynad EleGiggle
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>>157832885
It really looks like he gets tilted by the game, i don't even know why he keeps streaming.

He wants to concede as fast a possible, during a match he hits ESC multiple times after turn 4 or 5, just waiting to hit the concede button depending on what the opponent plays.

He keeps coming up with excuses after every match and blame his unlucky draw.

It's funny how after 1 or 2 bad matches he starts pointing his salt guns at his own donators and subs.
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>>157833583
How, wasnt he winning the mage match?
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>Pathra: he's giving him the choice
>Pathra: either go face, or deal with his minions
loving this commentary
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>>157833628

no, it came down to a topdeck situation and he had a 10% to win with bolt but got missiles, if 2/3 hit he won but 1/3 hit so he lost with thijs on 1 hp
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How is secret hunter not tier 1 this deck is fucking insanely easy and SMOrc friendly
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>>157833668

>the best that females can do in hearthstone is cora, eloise and pathra for casting
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>>157833725
No I mean he was ahead on turn 7 or something when he firelands portaled

how did he manage to throw the game
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>>157833628
lost in RNGwars at the end with thijs on 1hp
these games are getting ridiculous
thijs dropped malygos then fails to draw a single point of damage for multiple turns despite nourish, excess mana, etc

>>157833736
yeah it makes midrange shaman look like rocket science
easiest deck to ladder with hands-down
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>>157830557
How come that Hearthstone is statistically more balanced than before but it feels worse than ever?
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>Thijs crushing it with Druid
Is this 2014?
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>>157833925
They didn't balance it, they just nerfed the decks that were good against shaman
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>>157833951
he's an extremely skilled wild growth player
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>>157833951

>drops two 0 mana arcanes

nothing personal, kid
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>>157833925
Because you live in the present.
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Can you play druid without Fandral?
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every fucking time i swear

>>157833951
druid is solidly tier-1, it's only second to midrange shaman
every tourney has looked exactly like this
everyone bans shaman, druid whups ass
>>
>>157833951

its happy days when you get the ramp and fandral everytime.
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>>157834101
Yes.
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>>157834101
Absolutely not.
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>>157834112
Maybe I should change from token to maly druid.
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>>157833668
These commentaries are fucking useless and they talk too much it's annoying. Literally no pause at all.
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Who was your regret craft?

I fell for the deathrattle meme
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>>157834101
yes, it works, but it's only good, not broken
fandral is fucking broken and playing without him is like playing without dr balanced in gvg
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that swipe was censored it was too graphic.


RIP reynoodle
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>>157834216
Light rag. Regret because paladin sucks right now.
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>>157832885
Of course hes excited, its a new game mode that will draw more people to hearthstone streams including his. He will be using donations to pay for the entrance fee and keep raking in money. The entrance fee could be 20x more expensive and he would still call it the best thing to happen to hearthstone. Streaming is his job and gaming is the business he runs, there is nothing else he cares about.
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what why are they streaming from china?
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wild growth opening again LUL
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why cant i hold all these wild growths?
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>>157771758
i got 4 portals once with a pretty good curve and went 9 wins so definetly a pick
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>>157834216
I fell for the c'thun meme and crafted twin emps, turns out it was extremely boring to play and not anything near the type of tribe deck I wanted
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>>157834283
I unpacked a golden light rag. I wish control/n'zoth pally was better I still love him.

>>157834216
None honestly
>>
this tournament is over at 1-9 right?
>>
>wild growth on 2 again
So this is the kind of skill you need to be a tournament player huh
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Alright, fellas, we have 56 posts left until we hit bump limit. If some faggot posts a new thread before then, I will rain the full fury of my OC upon them.
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oh god this thaurissan value
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>>157834442
shouldnt you be focusing on the game instead of shitposting reynad?
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>>157834216

N'Zoth too. Deathrattle a shit, I knew I should have crafted Velen.
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W I L D G R O W T H
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wild growth MEGALUL
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Thank you beast god

Making a silence deck right now
>>
REYNAD ON SUICIDE WATCH

Oh god i'm crying XDDDD
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>>157834745
Just put it in Beast Druid.
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>>157834745
>2 cards 6 mana 9/7
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>>157834807

>implying I won't use Purify
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wild
fucking
growth
baby
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Reynaldo will sweep now.
>>
Anywhere I can see that druid list that gives me wild growt on opening hand always?
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>>157834959
>>157834998
>this butthurt reyfag fanboy
kek
>>
>>157834959
lol he missed his entire early game while druid ramped (again) rip
>>
>>157834216

>tfw crafting this and zerus on day 1 of wotog
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>>157835025
>ask for list
>reyfag fanboy
?
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>>157835034
doesn't matter. druid can't do anything without yogg
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>reynad is shit
Not even surprised.
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>>157835148
good for you you can read
>>
Rest in Peace, you salty idiot.
>>
the thides are turning
>>
freeze mage incoming
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>cleric
Lol is this 2015?
>>
definitely a thinking process to think about
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reynad going off cam to stream snipe
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>>157834837
>dat value from card draw
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reynad was just giving thijs a handicap
>>
>>157835405
it's hardcore full classic control priest
exists to stomp midrange decks
loses to every other archetype which is why you don't see it one ladder
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That stat graph is pretty cool.
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>>157835705
wasnt totemic might removed from arena
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>>157835542
>implying it will beat shaman
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>>157835829

only recently
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>>157835859

>iMBLYINGGGGGG :DDDDDDD
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>>157835859
>implying it won't
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>2-7

is this the power of becoming legendary
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>>157836073
>>157836053
ghosting piece of shit

why does blizzard reward cunts like that
>>
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I really feel bad for reynad watching these matches he's getting beat by bad draws lmao
>>
I thought this was supposed to be the most skill-based format? Why is reynad losing?
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>>157835859
>implying it just didn't
classic control > midrange, period
watch it beat his dragon warrior too

>>157836201
yeah this is why i don't run anything above malk in my dragon warrior
malk + grom = concede
>>
I really wish the stream comments would stay in the stream's comment section, wherever the fuck you're watching this shit.
>>
This feels like watching underground vietnamese gambling card games.
>>
2-8
lol

>>157836447
if only hsg wasnt dead and there was anything else worth talking about
>>
literally the easiest $1k of thijs life
>>
EleGiggle LOST TO PRIEST EleGiggle
>>
2-9 for sure
>>
>>157836447

/vg/ was literally only created because of /scv/ tourney threads shitting up /v/
>>
Are we getting a Priest mirror ?
>>
>>157836750

hopefully goes all the way to game 18
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>these faces
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>>157834216
I fucking loved nzoth.
I fucking regret crafting twin emps. C'tun is fucking boring. I was having more fun with my basic ramp druid when I first started and that deck was half full of vanilla creatures.
Kinda regret crafting my rag now but I got some good mileage out of it during gvg so w/e.
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>>157836813
Priest sweep incoming. This will make the news
>>
>>157781339
i got a golden one a few weeks back, was pretty happy with that
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>>157836813
Did reynad lose as Shaman vs Priest?

I remember him saying on stream last night that Shaman is favored vs Priest and Priest is favored vs Rogue while playing his shitty dragon netdeck
>>
>>157836934
I wouldn't mind it. My pirate deck would surely appreciate one, but i will not craft fucking greenskin.
I mean come on.
>>
>>157837016
yes but it wasn't against dragon priest
>>
We need more debuffs in the next expansion to make purify worth it.
Control revolves too much around removal, debuffs are practically a paladin exclusivity.
That and I want to play a permission deck that isn't freeze mage.
>>
>>157837156
purify just needs to be able to target any minion
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>>157782090
Reno, dont care about rest
>>
Reynard looks like Bart Simpson
>>
why is there so much reno and "control" warlock on eu

why is eu obsessed with reno
>>
>>157837225
Doesn't change the fact that debuffs are a rarity and a niche to be explored.
And you can make both aggro and control debuffs. Imagine a reverse PW:glory that damages the opponent when it attacks.
It makes control something else than just playing all the removal.
Plus if you make strong debuffs for everyone, you artificially make priest better without raising their powerlevel. You just introduced a good option ONE class has good counters against.
Wich mean you still have total control over the agressive options of priest.
>>
>>157837480

I actually was running into a bunch of renolock earlier, some one must have streamed it earlier
>>
Ok so get this
Paladin deck
without equality
>>
>>157837608
who am i
>>
>>157837709
Stop asking questions
>>
Was this Reynad's plan all along?
>>
>>157837608

For what purpose
>>
>>157837775
Equality is bad if you try to play tempo game on board
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>>157837608

that's basically the old board flood/divine favor deck
>>
>>157837752
Of course.
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Post cards you've NEVER seen in game. I was watching some Kripp's video and I saw this in his hand. I honestly didn't know what it was and I've been playing for over a year now.
>>
>>157837608
None of your business or Balanced Favor
>>
>>157837752
Reynads plan is usually
a/ pretend that he doesn't care while bringing bad decks
b/ bring meta decks to try and demonstrate that hearthstone is a shit game, still lose
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oh god this card
now THIS is what i call RNG
>>
>>157837814
>>157837835
STOP IGNORING DRAGON PALADIN
IM CALLING SOCIAL SERVICES
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>>157837834

someone played this against me in arena and I was actually amazed that it existed
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>>157837950
>concede paladin in 2016
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>>157837480
because I love the reactive archetype and reno is the only fucking heal in the game
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>>157837834
Don't you follow spoiler season?
I sometimes have trouble remembering the exact wording or stats of gimmicky cards but it's hard to forget the general idea.
>>157837929
ok first you haven't heard of the chaos confettin incident, nor or the chaos confetti card, and definitely not of pic related
>>
>>157837834
Stop posting your shitty OC
>>
>>157837950
Dragon paladin is weak garbage. Secret shitters and aggro paladins at least had time in the spotlight.
>>
>>157837834
>played this in arena once
>because its battlecry is so vague, thought that its battlecry would be a copy of your opponents hero power, as in if you were facing warloc its battlecry would deal 2 dammage to your hero and draw a card
>doesn't actually do that
fuck this bullshit game. it tries to be simple but doesn't actually properly explain shit.
>>
>>157837608
this is why midrange paladin was balanced because you couldn't nuke the enemy board without actually damaging your own, why the fuck does shaman get everything
>>
>>157838057
>dragon pally just need one more expansion
>oh wait we're about to loose TgT and BRM
>Hey don't be SAD, you had your turn with the op ball
>>
>>157838132
Because once Shaman was the shittiest class in the game
It takes some time for Blizz to realize they need to slow down on better cards for single class
>>
>>157838132
shaman was shit for ages because their hero power is flawed in its very concept
blizzard made them viable by going overboard on card qulity
I really don't like the blizzard way of taking turns making classes op, but at least priest is probably up next.
>>
>>157838183
Paladin and priest were far worse classes than Shaman ever was but shaman shitters are whiny manchildren and Thralls is Metzen's orcsona. I remind you again that every set after Naxx shaman got decent to great class cards and Naxx was full of good neutrals for deathrattle shaman. No other class was buffed so consistently.
>>
>Hearthstone.exe is not responding
>Oops! The game crashed.
>Oops! The game crashed.
>Oops! The game crashed.
>Oops! The game crashed.
>Oops! The game crashed.
>Hearthstone.exe is not responding
>Oops! The game crashed.
>Oops! The game crashed.
>Oops! The game crashed.
quality game
>>
>>157838282
I assure you, if blizzard ever makes priest OP, everything is fucked
>>
>>157838343
Priest players are by FAR the whiniest ones. Also pre-standard control priest was okay, mid tier 2 iirc
>>
>>157837929

>unglued
>shiggy
>>
>>157838282
See >>157838343
Uther and Anduin had it worse, shamans are faggots in general
>>
>>157838343
Paladin has never been bad
>>
>>157838494
Paladin was bad pre-GvG
>>
>>157838494
lmao Paladin wasn't a class until tgt
>>
>>157838435
I enjoyed deathrattle priest too. But yeah, people who stick with the priest for ebin steals are the worst.
>>
>>157838371
I'll enjoy my time with the op class then uninstall and move on.
The power balance has really been "take turns" for hearthstone
I don't have the heart to wait 3 more years for priest to be relevant again once their turn is over.
I enjoy rogue being back in the saddle but I miss the old miracle. I miss the old handlock. The only deck I enjoyed that is still more or less the same is control warrior.
>>
>>157838519
true but GvG was ages ago.
man I almost miss sludge belchers right now.
>>
>>157838494
It was unplayable trash since release through Naxx, became tier 2 fun and decent in GvG, got nothing from BRM, exploded with secret shitter in TGT and died after first month of standard.
>>
anyone who wants priest buffed has never played a priest mirror
>>
lost to yogg good game lmao
>>
>wild growth always on opening hand
>justicar turn 6
>that yogg

Is Reynad finally gonna off himself?
>>
>>157837834
when i unpacked spelleater i was so fucking hype to steal OP bullshit hero powers in adventures
too bad it doesn't fucking work on bosses

>>157838343
>>157838543
>all these newfags
>>
pathra may unironically be the worst caster
>>
>>157838669
I had mechpriest mirror in GvG. It was a lot of fun.
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New thread:
>>157838720

New thread:
>>157838720

New thread:
>>157838720
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>>157838724
Does she keep saying dumb shit or something?
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>>157838724
I don't know I prefer her over the nazaly voice one
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>>157838669

>classic priest mirror
>one idiot plays cleric
>auto loses to pyro circle combos
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>>157838438
chaos orb was not unglued. chaos confetti was
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>>157838819
I fucking learned my lesson that day rip
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>>157838823

Well played
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his secret was cat trick that i'd managed to play around. thought I was safe til next turn..... NOPE SORRY THUMP THUMP THUMP
>>
So...i'm rdy to jumping ship. Which one has good playerbase and futureproof ?
1. Shadowverse (i know its super popular in Nippon)
2. Faeria (look very interesting but seem too few player)
3. Elder Scrolls: Legend aka ESL (i reallyyy hateee ES franchise but if its good enough...)
4. Eternal (same with Faeria it doesn't seem to popular enough).
>>
>>157840158

That UI makes me wish there was some chinese knock-off hearthstone card simulator.exe and/or server with access to all the cards.

The problem with not having a sandbox mode and inaccessible cards is that creativity gets stifled and you just get people playing netdecks or working towards them because they're too afraid of making a mistake in crafting a useless card.

Only those who invest hundreds of dollars into their collection really get to experiment and influence the meta. The majority of streamers are really just ordinary kids with a lot of toys.
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>>157843265
Hopefully people that like him just take him less seriously and disregard his opinions now

>inb4 nobody does now.

the casuals do
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