Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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BHC soon

First for Ragnaros announced at BlizzCon

What is that OP image

you should've let the Grubby general get made

>>157733494

This is pretty bad, I made a new one. Please move there:

>>157734350

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>>157733601
Good
>>157733614
I would be so hype if that were true. Probably day 1 purchase.

>>157734379
what the fuck is wrong with you, delet that

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Seven hours until Samuro?

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>>157733494
PLEASE BUFF ABATHUR

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

>>157734379
>he made a grubby thread but forgot to include the [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>>157734591
Nerf clone, base stats are high enough that clone does not need that extra damage shit. Increase health on clone to compensate, just a bit though.

Give Monstrosity the multi-symbiote talent baseline level 10, and the dig ability baseline, but only near allies. Thus turning it into a more team-oriented ultimate that can double as constant pushing power.

>>157734852
that's actually a pretty solid way to make monstro useful

so if you were going full hat build on an illidan or something yo could have a monstrosity with a hat on it in the teamfight while still helping out illi himelf instead of taking the hat entirely off to use ultimate evolution

>>157734591
All the buffing in the world won't teach this shit community how to play WITH an Abathur or Murky or Cho'gall or something. Kudos to Blizz on the oddballs but people are retarded and don't know how to adjust to accommodate such things.

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Samuro was a good start but i think HotS should have some more lewd skins for the guys. Don't leave them alone Blizzard

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>>157737770
I agree

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>>157737770
The Darkness incarnates once more!

>>157737770
sadly the game is designed to pander to 12 year olds, so there won't be any lewds ever.

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>>157738406
Gul'dan has nice legs. Really nice legs.

>>157738825
But we got Prisoner Tychus skin and thats a good start and also pic related

>>157734379
you're cancer
go fucking die

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Daily reminder that Brightwing is the superior healer, and ;purest waifu. Yes, even more pure than Zagara.

>>157739325

>u r cancer XD

why anon? What is triggering you?

>>157739490
daily reminder that kyssing yourself is the easiest way out

>play this game
>it's just DOTA, but for brain damaged children

WEW

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LIVE INSECT!

>a good OP
neat

patch notes when?

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>>157741896
More importantly: SAMURO WHEN?

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Buffs when?

>>157742293
Does he need them?

>>157742383
He's atrocious in competitive.

Really all he needs is Adaptation to not be the worst ult in the game and maybe give him resistant on his lvl 16 e talent.

>tfw letting teammates die on purpose as auriel so i can use my ress heroic because it's fun to use
i have mixed feels

>>157742632
>tfw letting myself die as Uther to be the heroic super immortal healer

>>157742516
>>157742383
I thought he was a niche pick solely due to requiring skill, but was getting good results.

I guess things change quickly with patches.

Hey, speaking of warriors that need buffs, why did they change Stitches trait so much? It seems infinitely worse now.

Any good Alaraks with some tips on getting good?

So far I've learnt to not chase the combo so desperately since both skills can be used fine on their own.

>>157743765
Don't forget to AA like I constantly do.

>>157743203
uthers healing in brawl is stupid strong
it's more worth it to go die and save your dying team than to run back for heals

This game is eating up too much of my time. I love it, but fuck, I am frustrated all the time trying to get a few decent games in.

>>157743765
pick cooldown reset on 20 and learn to play with it

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>>157743203
The light abandons no man.

We samuro yet?

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>(Allies) Illidan: let the bodies hit the flooor

feels dead man

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>>157747474
the calm before the storm

>>157746893
Nope, he's only coming out tomorrow evening.

>>157747474
Everyone's playing Samuro.

>>157747240
did ya win?

>>157743285
He's a niché pick because he only works on some maps and he isn't even very good on them.

Pros strictly play him as splitpusher with the waveclear talent on 1. That makes him even worse in teamfights though. Falstad and especially Brightwing, Zagara and E.T.C. offer either better splitpush or better teamfight or both.

If he's talented for it he becomes great at hunting down squishies problem is too that he's very vulnerable himself and especially an organized team fucks him up.

Ideally you splitpush with him and then when a teamfight happens you burrow in or behind the enemy team and go for something juicy in their backline like a Kael. Due to your movementspeed and relentless you should be unpeelable and either get the kill or isolate their backline from their frontline. If they collapse on you you have your essence and E to sustain so your team can follows up.

Problem is that only works well in hectic team fights. If the enemy knows what to do you're fucked. Pro Dehakas frontline for their team but the issue is that he's shit at that. He soaks up dmg to no end, doesn't have an engage and his Q has shit range.

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How do you not feel useless playing Zarya?
She was supposedly nerfed but all I see are buffs in the patch notes...

I can't play but the game doesn't want to update
What's happening?

>>157747743
Samuro is shit. I have just read this on reddit

>>157748797
Good thing reddit is always wrong. Samuro will be above 60 percent, cap this.

>>157748542
maybe a battle.net launcher bug. Had this too. It is updating without telling you.

It was telling me X MB to download at 0 KB/s
after some time I pause it and start it again and it shows me Y MB to download at 0 KB/s
Y being lower than X
I never understood why

>>157749150
I tried forcing the update multiple times and it seems to be working now.

Although, I still don't believe the
>Now playable

Anybody know any good youtube channels where I can watch some ranked matches WITHOUT COMMENTARY?

>>157750039
just mute the video famalam

Where can I get Gul'dan code, /hotsg/? Did they throw it with new Warcraft movie or something?

>>157750132
you can exchange 10k gold for a gul'dan code at the in-game store

>>157750132
They did. WC movie game with free first 30 days of WoW free, Medivh for Mage class in Hearthstone, and Gul'dan for HotS.

Is the update live? I can't check bnet from here

>>157750124
But I want to hear the in-game sounds. It doesn't help the majority of these videos have the ugly fuckers facecam showing the entire time.

I'm glad that for every popular retard making bank on his bad online gaming there's a million others trying hard and getting nothing.

>>157750381
>Hawkray puts in 9000 hours of effort in Windows Movie Maker to make quality ass montages barely anyone watches
>Pallytime gets literal thousands to watch him be fat and suck at QM

>>157750638
Fuck anyone that talks or includes their fat stupid face in any video they make.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20328243/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-october-18-2016-10-18-2016

>>157750726
>Hover the cursor over the VS icon found in the top-center of the screen to display the amount of XP earned by each team from various sources, including: Takedowns, Mercenaries, Structures, and more.
neat

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>tfw Samuro only tomorrow for EU

>>157750880
>tfw have to go to bed early and be at uni in the morning, but still have the rest of the day for testing brades

>>157750013
and you're right

>now playable
>click on play
>take more time than usual to load the game
>select a game mode
>have to wait few minutes that it download stuff
>there are now downloads and longer loads everywhere

>>157750726
>The following Heroes have received custom Hearthstone animations:
>Diablo
>E.T.C.
Finally they are giving heroes unique hearthstone animations, most of the heroes use their mounting animation for channeling and hearthing as well.

>Diablo's head STILL inflates when going from "battle stance" to idle

FUCK YOU

>>157750726
>Deputy Valla – Available starting October 25

nice

SAMURO PATCHNOTES for live server

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20328243/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-october-18-2016-10-18-2016http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20328243/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-october-18-2016-10-18-2016

>Eye Pad – Available exclusively with purchase of either Hallow’s End 2016 bundle. This mount may return to the game as an individual item at a later date.
fucking jews man

>>157751478
i beat you to it
>>157750726

>>157751563
sorry anon, didn't want to steal your upvotes

>>157750726
Where the balances/character changes at?

>greymane and rexxar down in price
Nice.
Was considering getting Greymane.
But I probably shouldn't because I'm a newfag.

>>157751737
but the game is perfectly not balanced anon!

>>157750726

Brawl! Brawl! Brawl! Brawl!

୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨

>40 minutes until the maintenance downtime is up
>i leave in an hour

>>157751763
Weird that Rexxar is dropping to 4K. They've said they want to keep more complex heroes expensive, and he's one a lot of people just can't pick up.

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>>157750726
>no mention of new map rotation
WHAT
THE
FUCK

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>>157752076
Source on that image?

>>157752076
Is that anal?
looks like anal

>>157751478
What's the story with Gul'dan's visual changes, big difference or hardly noticable? I already feel like Fel Flame is way cooler looking than it feels to cast.

>>157751763
Seeing Marudan go up in price a while back was super weird but it's really cool that 10k heroes are gradually deflating. Unlike a certain company who justified releasing their characters at an even higher price point and then never going back to make them cheaper.
Greyman is pretty fun and if you're interested you should get him. He's actually not very hard to play unless you start getting too invested in hitting flasks or keeping your combo meter, which often gets you into a lot of trouble. Otherwise you're basically Raynor who can become the butcher if people get too close.

>>157752045
>there's gonna be a shitload of idiot rexxars in Unranked
>some of them even on the other team and not on mine

BLISS

>>157752349
the flames look much more like flames now, and some added particles and other minor effects have been added to corruption
it looks really cool

>>157752349
>cocky Greymane poking me all match because Butcher can't into ranged battle
>let him and focus on my meat
>he gets even cockier and jumps into melee
>let him and retreat
>acquire meat
>show him what a real melee assassin does

BIG
DEMON
DICK

>>157752045
>rexxar
>complex
lmao he's pve baby mode

>>157752639
I think that's just a meme that popped up since no one played him for a long time

>>157752775
>implying babbu can do the Rexxar two way flank in his first game

>>157752639
come on, PVE Rexxar isn't even the fun part of playing him

>>157752775
>>157753063
his strategy is to solo merc camps and boss and if he gets fucked sacrifice his pet so he can run away

>>157753139
okay, so you can't play Rexxar.

>>157753139
MISHA
KILL

>>157752127
according to the arrangement of the acts in the image set it isn't, I'm sorry anon.

>>157752639
I think that award goes to Zagara or Murky. Murky is extremely easy to clear camps with, he just can't do boss.

Arguably, you shouldn't really be soloing boss most of the time anyway. Generally you should wait until completely safe, in which case, who gives a shit if Rexxar has an easier time doing boss than everyone else?

>>157753063
>>157753139
t. bronzie

Rexxar is extremely easy to play though

>>157753139
His strategy is to also be picked on braxis holdout and put his bear on the node

>>157753139
>take bear
>throw bear into backline
>let bear do bear things with squishy backliners while you do JoJo poses behind your assassins
>use bear to block every skillshot
>use bear to stun everyone
>win

>>157753375
>sacrifice his pet so he can run away

>>157753281
strategically easy, but definitely not easy to control unless you're playing at low MMR where you don't have to micro Misha. it's easy to know WHAT to do, but DOING it isn't easy.

>>157753375
>implying Misha dies on my watch

>Character/VoiceRef/Tyrande=Elisa Gabrielli
What did they mean by this?

>>157753772
"do her voice like EG plx"?

IT'S UP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK71tu3RyJs&feature=youtu.be

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we live

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>>157754201
>tfw still a long while until Samuro

>No Easter egg again
One step forward and 2 back

>>157754312
>being a yurop

>>157753265
Rexxar isn't even that good at soloing bosses. Unless he takes the 7 he's slow as fuck. Sonya does them faster with merclord while not losing as much in teamfights.

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Samuro is bugged and you can use all the color schemes in lvl1

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>>157754459

>>157753772
Elisa gabrielli voices Tyrande, you can hear it when she does Maven Black-Briar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogwBf1XMRbU

>>157754512
>americucks getting bugged early releases again

hehe
gonna be fixed by tomorrow

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https://a.desu.sh/dvvdyj.ogg MX_Heroes_Samuro_Full.ogg
https://a.desu.sh/jcofii.ogg MX_Heroes_Samuro_Alt.ogg

>>157754165
>Illidan scene
Would that be possible with 3 or more Illidans?

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>>157754512
>Warsong Blademaster
Astonishing!

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>tfw can't play

>>157753772
was that in the patch files?

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>>157733614
15k I don't even care.

>>157754619
already fixd and you still can't play :)

>>157755323
He'd be the first hero I buy with real money

>Preparing game data
>It downloads a few kb and only when it fucking feels like
Please tell me i`m not the only one

>>157755472
the display is bugged but it actually downloads everything without showing it, at least on my pc

>>157754201
ok that's a great screen! Has a strong WC3 vibe.

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Post your dream hero addition.

>>157755646
so does the music
>>157754630

>>157754201
how big are those weapons on the hill. he fighting titans?

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>>157755682
Arthas the scum replaced him

Just had a nice brawl match but I have a question
How many points do TLV or murky give?

A regular kill gives 4

>>157755754
did you even see how small people are on the SC maps? We titans bro!

>>157755872
0.25 of a regular hero's death

>>157754201
>Sylvanas
>Kerrigan
>Arthas
>Illidan
>Morales
Samuro confirmed for solo'ing an entire enemy team.

evens = i get samuro 15k
odds = i wait two weeks for it

>>157756098
DO IT
rollan as well

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>>157756098
>>157756148
Gib money plz

>>157756215
>metzen quit blizzard a month ago
:(

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FOR FUCKS SAKE WHAT
already repaired and even reinstalled
what the fuck

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>>157753185
i hear the call of the wild

>>157756392
launch the 32 bit
it's been a problem since they re-opened PTR

>>157756581
Damn, thanks.

>>157754535
Source? Besides you and everyone's reaction image folder.

>>157754512
Neat. Not gonna buy him yet though. 5k extra for longer queue times isn't worth it to me.

>>157756901
Some shit weeb show.

>>157756901
Just do the image search with the triangle it's the first thing when you look at google

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I've only played two matches so far today and I already HATE this motherfucker

>does insane amounts of damage
>know way of telling clones apart, unlike Nova he switches places with one of the clones
>ghosts every time about to go /down/
REEE!!!

WTF blizz? way to make a flavor of the month champ again. Guaranteed he gets nerf'd next patch after all the richfags have bought him with IRL good boi point monies

>>157757921
>>157757865
Thanks. God damn that looks dumb.

Oh well. Anyway, who here finally buying Rexxar today?

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>>157756392
Happening to me, too

>>157758462
It's just like WC3, the most annoying an op hero. It was worse in WC3 plus they never do balancing in that.

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>>157758462
>Just blind him

Spent like 5 minutes so far in the brawl queue, what's up with that.

>>157758757
dead game

>>157758462
>unlike Nova he switches places with one of the clones
For the longest time I thought Nova was able to do this with a talent.

>>157758462
I think the most annoying thing is that in HotS invisibility is invincibility. Only 2 heroes have any kind of anti-stealth move and any character without a skill shot is 100% helpless to stop him. Even if you do have target spells he's undetectable for 2 seconds so if you can't 100 to 0 him the instant he pops up he gets away every single time.

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>>157755682

>>157758903
>Only 2 heroes have any kind of anti-stealth move
Tassa and?

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>>157756536
Your mom hears the call of the wild BBC

>>157759078
maybe they mean brightwings teleport talent? Tyrande use to have reveal all for 8 seconds

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>>157755682
Ragnaros was already posted.

>>157758903
Not 2 seconds, 1. Well, 2,5 but only if he takes the talent that halves his crit output and finishes quest.
And there are literally 3 heroes that cannot reveal stealth with any AoE: LiLi (who counters him with blinds anyway), Kharazim (who is most fucked, but still, he can take the reveal on Q talent) and other Samuro.

>>157759078
Abathur - Toxic Nest (4s Reveal)
Brightwing - Peekaboo! (6s Reveal)
Chromie - Peer into the Future (4s Reveal, 2s Duration)
Gall - Eye of Kilrogg (45s Duration)
Greymane - Scented Tincture (10s Reveal)
Kharazim - Foresight (3s Duration), Clairvoyance (4s Reveal, 10s Duration)
Lt. Morales - Scouting Drone (45s Duration)
Lunara - Natural Perspective (3/9s Reveal), Skybound Wisp (upon death; 4s Duration)
Malfurion - Moonfire (2s Reveal), Scouting Drone (45s Duration)
Medivh - Dust of Appearance (10s Reveal)
Murky - Clairvoyance (4s Reveal, 10s Duration)
Raynor - Scouting Drone (45s Duration)
Rehgar - Farsight (4s Reveal, 10s Duration)
Rexxar - Unleash the Boars (5s Reveal), Flare (5s Duration)
Tassadar - Oracle (5s Duration/8s Duration talented)
Tracer - Tracer Rounds (4s Reveal)
Tyrande - Sentinel (5s Reveal), Hunter's Mark (4s Reveal)
Zeratul - Vorpal Blade (intriguing interaction; causes Basic Attacks to reveal if they are an Illusion. 3s Reveal)

(posted on reddit by some guy who did some tests)

>>157759189
I'm going to try Valla against him, her AOE w might do the trick

>>157759519
He actually moves faster than mounted speed, he blows up Valla extreme fast and there is nothing she can do to get away from essentially a much faster lunara.

>>157759508
scouting drone doesn't show stealth.

>>157759689
http://imgur.com/a/OKadY
mirror images =\= stealth

>>157759231
LIKE SQUATTING INSECTS!

>>157759803
Windwalk is the stealth move

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>Ranked
>Thrall
>Blackheart
>Azmodan went lazer build, got bullied hard by Zagara
>he dies after trying to 1v2 and says "wtf thrall we had a double kill"
>he was near death, both were high health and had level 10 over us.
>Our lili suddenly starts crying "thrall sux, look at his talent choices." when I pick Sundering instead of EQ
>Somehow we manage to come back, our team get like 30 coins in a teamfight
>we get two turn ins in a row, manage to get another 10 coins from a teamfight
>Next teamfight goes bad, only Li Li and I make it out
>he has 11 coins, I have 8
>Our Ming and Azmo ping hard retreat
>running by Blackheart, enemy Diablo right around the corner
>Lili goes retard
>She's handing in her coins
>On Zagara's creep
>Dibs rushes around the corner and tackles Lili out of the channel
>Rush back, Sunder dibs and chase him away a bit, but I know Kael and rest of enemy team are coming any second
>Lili goes full blown retard
>tries to hand in AGAIN
>Ming and Azmo's v keys are breaking from how hard they're being pressed
>Feral spirit diablo one last time before running to give lili some room to retreat
>Watch lili get anal raped by a five man gang bang as I escape
>Lili somehow gets away and catches up to me
>throw out another feral spirit, root diablo again as I turn back into our base
>Lili doesn't go the same direction as me
>Goes fucking up the lane of all things
>She explodes into 11 coins immediately
>Ming asks what the fuck they were doing
>Lili responds with "omg shit thrall bad talents"
>lose

The only fucking constant I deal with is the fact that I'm constantly matched with cum drooling retards who don't understand the basic concept of the fucking retreat ping.

Platinum is basically fucking Bronze.

is there actually no way to scroll up chat in this game?

>>157760354
>>Blackheart
Did the maps finally fucking change?

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>>157733494
JUST FOCUS THE FUCKING PUNISHER THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO
DO YOU SEE THE ENEMY TEAM GETTING 10 POINTS EVERY 20 SECONDS?
THAT'S BECAUSE THEY FOCUS THE FUCKING PUNISHER
YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE HOW MUCH FASTER OUR PUNISHER'S HEALTHBAR GOES DOWN THAN THEIRS
IT'S NOT A TEAMFIGHT MODE
IT'S NOT A TEAMFIGHT MODE
IT'S NOT A TEAMFIGHT MODE

>>157760354
This is a very bad time to play, don't even bother right now

>Bladestorming 5 assassins in hero brawl
I don't have a reaction image to show how erect I am right now

>>157758903
>any character without a skill shot is 100% helpless to stop him
If you're playing Li Li just blind him and he's 100% helpless too

What talents does Li Li take?

>>157760898
But I still have a stimpack and my friend is available and I can still get my first win 50% exp bonus and it's my birthday

>>157759598
just finished a game using Valla with an AOE build. She seemed to be quite effective against him

>range advantage
>W fucks up his clones hard
>movement speed increase and vault make it still feasible to get away if need be
>W makes it harder for him to stealth gank
>popping Strafe ult in team fight practically guarantees he won't be able to ghost /out/ when low

>>157761257
Happy birthday. Try to relax and have fun.

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did the update change how her feet taste?

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>>157762424
can confirm that they taste a little sweeter

AoE crit with Illusion master was pretty chill on Samuro.

what's the best Samuro build?

>>157764058
attack damage quest, crushing blows, illu master, harsh winds
rest is to taste

blow nerds up instantly with 3 orcs critting 3 times each

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>Welcome to BLACKHEART'S BAY
>It's a Brazilian 4 queue
>Lose both chests
>They start going mid one by getting picked off
>They then group up and try to fight level 8 vs 11
>Teammate manages to get some coins tries to turn them in alone at 20% health gets ganked
>My last 5 Blackhearts have gone like this
Why does this map still exist?

nova exploit was fixed?

>>157765040
full rotation again?
thank the gods

>>157765081
>Tomb and BHB
>Not even Garden
Might aswell kill myself.

>>157764058
Could also do WW quest with AoE crit, Illu master. Sneak to the middle of enemy team and massive crit storm from three orcs.

is samuro op

will he be nerfed

some things are pretty shitty without any talents in brawl mode

gazlowe can take grav-o-bomb but doesn't get the double tnt, zeratul can take shadow assault but gets no MWB or searing attacks...

>Solo Queue in QP
>Expect to lose
>Lose

>Solo Queue in Brawl
>Expect to lose, but for it to be lighthearted fun
>People calling out picks like it's fucking draft mode, and people don't do that shit in bronze level draft mode where I likely will be if I bother getting a number attached to my forehead
>Super tryhards who get mad when losing in a fucking brawl where playing 3 times gets you LITERALLY FREE GOLD win or lose.


I hope this game finally bites the dust soon. This player-base is fucking nonredeemable. That said, got a lot of reports on people sperging out.

when does EU get updated
I want OP samurai orc

>>157765831
yes and yes

>>157766405
>NA servers in charge of not being full of raging cunts

at least on EU 90% of all players are too bad at English to use the chat

Samuro's baaaaaad.

If the enemy has any semblance of brain-power, they won't let you do anything. 25% movespeed on hit is still too slow when spam of CC is going to come your way.

You don't make a binary hero like Samuro without giving him some real power. He's too weak for a melee assassin without sustain. Fuck, Butcher's a better Samuro, and can survive and deal out more threat without "HURR INTELLIGENT GIMMICKS LIKE STEALTH (Easily countered by fucking moving a little closer to your monitor) AND DECEPTIVE ILLUSIONS (which can't take burst and will easily give way to which is the real Samuro).

>>157766405
>I hope this game finally bites the dust soon
pretty sure it's biting the dust now, patch day and like no one is playing

>>157767445

General chat's never been this full of angry 12 year olds.

HoTS is pretty busy today. 15 minute queue if you pick the shit-samurai

>>157767445
Wrong faggot, the reason your q is taking 7 hours is because everyone and their mother is trying to pick samuro in QM

pick random QM and you get a match in under 10 seconds.

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I heard I was invited to the Nexus. I am the most cancerous thing ever to grace the battlefield.

Nothing can stop our march.

this is retarded.. smauro is pretty much invincible, he can just hide one of his clones near fort or in a bush and then suicide run with rest of the two and i his health gets low he just switches
that is op as fuck

>>157769153
>samuro is pl
not even close m8

also >implying pl is op
he's shit this patch becasue sand king aghs

>>157769401
LOL JUST BLIND, SILENCE AND ROOT ALL THREE OF THEM

>>157769845
He can cleanse all cc cept stuns by creating more clones.

>>157767418

I think you're heavily underestimating this hero. You say he's no good if the other team has any brain power, I say the rest of your team should be able to account for this.

Really though, I do believe his strength will be in his split push potential, even if his illusions do immediately die to tower damage. A 16s cooldown on illusions that do semi-respectable creep damage, with a cd reduction talent at 13? That's fucking insane. Not to mention with his illusion ult lvl 20 improvement, he can basically send his illusions across the map and teleport to them to take camps/push lanes.

>>157769153

Kind of the right idea. Phantom Lancer would literally just split push and jungle all game and come out 6 slotted at 25 minutes to shit on the enemy team.

>>157769845

What kind of bronze shitters are you playing against to just let you do that?

>>157769401
But his two clones are much weaker than 1 regular hero, so if you are using this strategy it's like your team is playing with 4.5 heroes, and will most likely lose.
Zeratul is also "invincible" under the same argument, but that's irrelevant in comparison to the whole game.

>>157769401
yeah this shit is morphling not phantom lancer
dont know what that doturd was talking about

>>157770582
>zeratul
meant Abathur
I'm really no good at remembering alien names

>>157770687

One of samuro's talents is literally the old doppelganger.

Really he's a mashup of morph, cancer lancer, and weaver.

>>157770894
More of BH then Weaver

>>157769772

More referring to old PL. He's definitely shit now. Which only helps the joke that he's coming here now, where he has a chance.

>Blademaster has a OPM line
Neat

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>Braxis Holdout: Fixed an issue in which a captured Archangel could target enemy Heroes with its Bullet Storm Ability.

Thank goodness, played a game yesterday where the boss just focused a sprinting Gazlowe instead of the core

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>top 50
>4000 games played
>80%+ win ratio
>still get matched with people that have less than 10 games played

What

The

Fuck

Fix your garbage matchmaking blizzard

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>>157737039
Add Medivh to this list

USE MY PORTALS DAMMIT

>>157770894
Aren't all of those heroes based on aspects of the WC3 blademasters or?

>>157758462
100% of his damage is Auto Attack. If you can blind him or reveal him, he can't do shit

>>157772138
what do you expect from a 500 people playerbase ?

>>157772356
> If you can blind him or reveal him, he can't do shit
And then he makes his clones and removes both debuffs.

>>157772138
>still get matched with people that have less than 10 games played
matchmaking is skill-based not playtime based anon
blizz thinks you have the same skill as someone who's never played the game before

>>157772541
>matchmaking is skill-based
there is no matchmaking anon

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>>157772541

>>157773313
>>>/facebook/

>>157773627

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>>157772138
This game goes by average team MMR, not individual.
So it could potentialyl give you shitters WAY below you, or you could be a shitter that gets matched with good players, so long as your team's total average MMR is equivalent to the opposing team's.

Which makes no sense. But whatever. Can't make it individual=based, game doesn't have enough players.

>tfw low health as kerrigan and a teammate nukes the wave just before you get in range to q

>play muradin
>win
>don't play muradin
>lose

guess that settles that

>>157774831
>play anything
>rest of the team is hot garbage
>lose

>>157774831

I know the feel. I'm that way with Brightwing, and supporting in general.

won my first game as vikings on blackheart. but it was kinda boring just soaking lanes and trying to get every merc camp. is that all you do as vikings? do you ever teamfight?

>>157775065
You don't pick Vikings for the teamfight potential. You do it for the map-wide soaking and mercing, which gives your team the advantage in exp soak (By a huge margin) and pushing. Eventually you do, yeah, but that's generally when the soaking begins to slow down either as a result of the map control swinging too much in your favor so your Vikings are at risk of being killed too easily, etc. Shit like that. But yeah, you do teamfight eventually.

>>157773930
calm down normie

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>>have to play against a lost vikings, ETC and Falstad on dragonshrines

>>157775448
no wonder braxis felt horrible to play on. no room to do anything. didn't help the perma present nova in QMs kept sniping Erik. do you always take abilites on the vikings or are the passives better?

Illusion Master is clearly the better ult, but Bladestorm is too fun. Especially with the lvl 20 upgrade.

do not read if twitch-related discussion triggers your autism

what did mewn do to completely alienate chu, and now grubby as well?

>>157779450
>Illusion Master is clearly the better ult
yeah why the hell did they hide basic capabilities like "being able to control the units you summon so they actually accomplish shit instead of getting distracted by lane minions" behind an ult? that part should have been a basic capability, with the "swap places with illusion" and damage increase being tied with the ult

>>157774936
>>157774831
That's BW and Chen for me.
If we have a tank and a healer or I'm asked to pick something else, I already know were are fucked

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>>157780503
At least give the illusions Misha AI, so they TRY to attack whichever hero you're attacking.

>>157780728
Finally on a winning streak, thank you Samuro for being so much fun to play.

>>157780726
It's already season 2. There was a newer version of magazine cover, was it ever finished?

>>157780728
i'm /day14whenhegoesto10kbecauseimnotadegeneratewhospendsmoneyonfreegamessamuro/

>>157780938
>implying i spent money on him and didn't have 15k+ gold ready

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>>157780901
No idea but im sure its good

>come back after a few months to see if Jaina isn't still massively inferior to Kael and Li-Ming

>nothing has changed

Welp see yall in another few months.

>>157781451
Your waifu is a slut.

>>157781451
jaina is objectively better than kael at this point
jaina is subjectively better than li-ming, even though every fuccboi in the world is still picking li-ming at every opportunity

>>157781451
>jaina
>bad
kek

>>157780503
because he's already fucking broken.
No need to maker him better

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Zurvan when?

i knew this long queue shit was gonna happen with samuro but it still bothers me

>>157781451

Kael got some nerfs and fell out of meta. Jaina is definitely better than him right now.

Li-Ming is a tossup. They're both good and while I give Li-Ming the slight edge due to range, Jaina's CC and permaslow is incredibly helpful against all the retarded melee out there.

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>queue for brawl
>matchmaker literally just has to find 9 other players, not even people queued for a certain role
>12 minute queue and counting

i-it's really dead, isn't it?

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>teammate gets artanis in brawl
>he takes the fucking beam instead of the aoe blind
This should be bannable.

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>>157780726
I agree, I need hots related reaction pics as well.
Like something for this

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>>157780726

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>>157782684
>Teammate gets gazlowe in brawl
>He goes robo goblin
>He feeds all game trying to kill the enemy fountain

>>157783010
the lol one should be a nerd creepily jerking off over the 99 identical "cute anime girl" heroes

>tfw bad at samuro

>>157783479
you sound butthurt
cant handle hots being a children's game?

>>157783498
>being bad at raynor level difficulty hero

maybe stick to being a healslut

>tfw eu doesn't have samuro nor brawl yet

>>157784570

Did you even read his post? Or understand the implication?

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>>157784756

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>>157785580

>>157760886
>getting mad about the fucking brawl
sincerely kys

great, now there's 3 stealth heroes for shitters to flock to every game now. what's great is that this new one is actually overpowered compared to most of the cast. excellent

>>157785796
ikr
it's literally called BRAWL
fuck pve. this is the first time that this "hero brawler" has actually felt like one

if these aspie fucks start infiltrating my fun game mode with tier lists and meta strats i'm gonna lose my shit

>>157786795
Just blind him

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>>157761007
Here you go

>>157787352
>blind him
>he makes clones
>blind is now gone

>>157787695
Just shrink him

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>The Butcher with stealth instead of unstoppable
>No root
>No slow
>No heal
>Lower damage
>Overpowered

>>157788138
Can't really soak three lanes with Butch unless his talent tree got some crazy rework I don't know about.

>>157788138
>stun butcher
>he dies
>stun sumaro
>"oops, it was the clone"

plus the butcher needs to attack a single target to survive focus fire. muh blade guy has a spammable stealth and endless clones

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>>157786795
Tosh when?

>>157788902
dude looks like one of those lion warriors from dark souls 2

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>>157788902
Hopefully after Stukov.

>>157789094
Who is hopefully after Jack Frost

>>157788837
>Hit a clone once
>It loses 50% of its health
>It's also not moving like a player
>Also it only deals 90 damage a hit
>Also it doesn't cast any abilities

wtf....which is the real???

>>157789215
>hots player
>past the mental age of 11
Samuro will be a pubstomper

>>157789319
Any hero can be a bronzestomper

>>157750132
Literally a dollar on the russian sites

>>157788902
We have three specter skins already. Would be too confusing.

>>157788138
How is he anything like Butcher?

>>157789215
>have to make a split second decision of which Samuro to kill before he kills you
>LUL WRONG ONE TRY AGAIN NEXT TIME

>>157789754
They're both shitty melee assassins

>>157789550
I cant find him cheaper than 5€

>>157789836
Hm really makes me think I guess Nova is overpowered now too

>>157790034
Nova don't switch out the real Nova, Samuro's puts the real one in a different spot than he was before so he can use it to dodge and juke. They also do damage.

Call me when Nova can manually turn on stealth as a baseline ability.

>>157790313
>Samuro's puts the real one in a different spot than he was before so he can use it to dodge and juke. They also do damage.
Only if he doesn't take bladestorm. If he doesn't take bladestorm he will never do damage to a decent team. If he doesn't take images he will die instantly every teamfight.
>Call me when Nova can manually turn on stealth as a baseline ability.
Doesn't matter stealth literally does nothing outside of bronze league

>>157791048
Dude, casting Mirror Image literally moves you. Even untalented. You cast it and end up at a different spot than you were before.

> "stealth literally does nothing outside of bronze league"
>implying I can land auto attacks or targeted spells on a stealthed target

>>157791274
So Samuro can maybe dodge a stormbolt once

How is he going to land a kill with almost no other utility? He isn't that's how.

At this rate, I doubt I'll be able to play three brawls, jesus. I thought you guys said it was a quick queue for brawl.

>>157791901
everyone realized it was garbage and stopped playing it

>>157791754
While I'm all for not calling shit overpowered on release, I think you are underestimating his trait.

>play with cunt friend because thats what we do
>"oh btw, I'm gonna play some more vikings in the future, like actually right now cuz I wanna play them in HL"
>"I'm gonna hit Masters soon so I need to be good with them, btw I'm not gonna play HL with *you* tho, I only get weird teams and bad opponents"
>consider never playing with cunt friend again

never EVER let one of your real life friends get good at esports. alternatively, don't play with That One Friend who's automatically perfect at everything.

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He's going to break 65%.

FUCK BLIZZARD
FUCK THIS GAME

>>157792425
But will he break 72?

Alright, Brawl is fun as fuck. I got to play a game as Samuro and everything and HE's fun as fuck.

I am super hype.

so tired of having feeding novas and zeratuls in my teams. why the hell are bad players attracted to solely those two. jeez

So, why does Cowboy Raynor have a special mount if he is a cowboy and looks fine on a normal horse? I don't get what it is supposed to be.

>>157792329
sounds like a bit of a cunt

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it really seems like that despite the nerf after the huge buff malf got, he's still great. tyrande has good fucking taste.

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>"hm i feel like playing some cho'gall"
>join chogall channel
>someone asks if anyone wants to gall
>check his profile
>bronze 2
>literal bronzies actually exist

so is the even over? i havent played since sunday

>>157795604
yeah event is donezo

I went 14-2 on my first game as Samuro. Butcher just can't compete with this guy.

>>157795623
fuuuuuuuuuuuck i took those simpacks for granted

really gonna miss them

>>157795374
I doubt even a Bronze can fuck up playing Gall.

>>157795857
he wanted cho

>>157784992
you dont understand mom, my topless anime dolls arent toys, they're COLLECTOR'S ITEMS

oh don't touch that one it's still a bit sticky

>>157792425

I've barely played past few months.

What the hell did they do that Malf became best support?

>>157797053
malf has always been best support, bronze lords just need to be told by "pros" that a hero is good before they play it.

>>157797053
just buffed numbers. like how any champ "suddenly" becomes OP

>>157797681
beyond wrong
they made his D lower cooldowns on heroes, reduced delay on root, reduced cooldown on his heal AND buffed numbers

>>157797053
they buffed the heal-over-time on regrowth and reduced its mana cost significantly, but most importantly they HALVED the startup delay on entangle
it has since been nerfed to be slower-ish, although still faster than before

>>157792425
if youre gonna post hotslogs and not filter them to diamond/masters only you might as well just come up with your own statistics

If you get All Illidans in the Brawl, go Hunt, the stun is much more relevant than the health.

Is brawl the epitome of forced 50 or is it just people getting used to it?

>>157799564
>taking brawl seriously
pretty sure everyone is just dming

It feels good to play on the standard map rotation again

>>157797745
>"beyond wrong"
>then explain how they buffed his numbers

are you retarded?

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Updated Tier List
Back From Vacation Edition
All feedback welcome
Where to place Samuro?

Changelog:
Changed title to keep people from bitching

Thrall moved lower in A Tier
Zarya moved lower in A Tier
Chen moved higher in A Tier

Uther moved down to B Tier (from A)
Rehgar moved down to B Tier (from A)
Medic moved up to A Tier (from B)

Greymane moved lower in B Tier
Tyrael moved lower in B Tier
Rexxar moved higher in B Tier
Leoric moved higher in B Tier

Dehaka moved higher in C Tier
Artanis moved higher in C Tier
Nazeebo moved higher in C Tier

>There is always hope

>>157801196
>gazlowe bottom tier
>ming above jaina
>zeratul B tier
>rehgar B tier
>alarak B tier
>probably a bunch of other shit i can't be bothered with

into the trash it goes

>>157800048
The first anon said they JUST buffed numbers.
Second anon explains the multiple other large buffs they put in

>>157802210
Lots of things wrong with that list, but Gazlowe isn't one of them.

>>157802210
>Jaina higher than Liming
You can't be serious

>>157801196
>medic tier 1
>`ayo hol up what the fuck`
>see auriel in tier 2
are you serious

>>157800048
well they also added new functionaity to D and lowered cast time on roots

so not just "make numbar bigger"

>>157802548
never said he was top tier, but he belongs in C at the very least, if not B. at this point, gazlowe being low tier is giant meme. he's gotten so many buffs but people still think "lol gazlowe shit hero"

>>157802742
i'm dead serious, people are sleeping on jaina.

if you don't trust me, trust the data. jaina is one of the highest winrate heroes in the game at master/diamond mmr. last i checked she was about 4% higher.

li-ming is actually kind of mediocre at this point, it's just flashy when she does work, and her being good is a meme just like gazlowe being shit is a meme

>>157803413
If D is the lowest tier. Gazlowe belong there. He's probably the worst hero in the game. The only map he's even sort of viable on is Braxxis.

>>157770894

>he's a mash up of the clone characters from Dota who were made from his original kit from Warcraft 3

Wouldn't that just make him exactly like he used to be?

>>157803413
please name me any situation or matchup where Gaz is the correct hero to choose, and not some other hero over him

>>157801196

Samuro, in my opinion, probably falls into upper B category, possibly A. Remains to be seen. (At least in my diamond scrub league experience)

>>157803773
When you play in bronze and people just stand still and get hit by your turrets.

>>157803562
>"lol gazlowe shit hero"
play against a competent gazlowe on sky temple, infernal shrines, braxis holdout, or dragon shire

then come back and try to tell me he's garbage

>>157803773
there's usually a better hero to pick, but he's a good pick on the maps i mentioned, especially against heavy melee comps