/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General

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1st for ultra fast cataphracts soon

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>tfw howken devs add coon runes

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Bushy bump.

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>>157724847

more cartoon camos wheen?

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>>157725030
pray 4 heroes
And whatever grab deal gets announced in November.

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>new thread's already dead
lmao

>>157725030
You have no idea how disappointed I was that the Hero Summoner doesn't use the cartoon paint job.

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>>157728808
>couldn't even use Nicolai Malthus
>fucking Aidan Pryde's Summoner, and not his Timber Wolf like everyone wanted

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/238356-patch-notes-1485-18-oct-2016/

patchnotes up

>>157731097
Why so slow?

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>DD and enforcer nerfed
>cancerdiak 3 still not nerfed

>>157731097
>Enforcer ENF-5P: UAC Jam Chance increased to -20% (from -30%).
>JagerMech JM6-DD: UAC Jam Chance increased to -20% (from -30%).
ok two pretty unpopular shitmechs get nerfed for no reason other than let's inflate the patch notes to make it look like we do something, now how did they fix the kodiak or how did they nerf the niggyr
>no changes
ah, thank you PGI, thank you

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=345&l=ec57a69058ebc7cf260574a4e97318f7d831c890

I really like the Marauder

I really like the AC20

How's this?

>>157732928
bad
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=345&l=1e468299b319dc91ba1e430842cc7d078ffbf048

>>157733078
PPCs aren't worth it eh? So it's alright not to use those quirks it has?

>>157733201
Not with an AC20 combined with only 13 heatsinks in a 75 tonner that's slower than an Atlas, no.

is this discord kong

Dead game
Dead franchise
Dead hopes
Dead dreams

Are you hyped for FREE mechs today?!

>>157737193

No.

>>157737193
>free
Oh you poor deluded fool.

>>157738256
how ironic

>>157736819
At leaste we're still have a thread somehow related, look at PS2 - even with halloween it IS dead in a bad way, even wit werl.
>plz dont ban me, ps2 had BFR as a easter egg

>>157741685
>wrel
>anything more than a wet fart in a passing wind

What, did that faggot suck enough cock to become community manager for Daybreak and their russian overlords or something?

>>157731159
>>157732025
>niggeroid sphere tears when one of the only assaults in the game with actual assault powerlevel keeps being what it should be

Alright, I've decided to purchase either the GHR-5H(c), the QKD-4K(c), the TDR-9SE(C) or the VTR-9S(c).

Can I get some feedback about these? I'm mostly going off what I know from the tabletop.

>>157741985
Thats the point - he is in devteam, even moved closer to work, and PS2 vg thread gets page 10 so often it's not even alive for couple of days now.

>>157742458
>(c)
m8

>>157742458
the 9SE is a pretty great large pulse boat.

>>157742037
Ah, haven't heard the "but m-muh shitty clan assaults" argument in a while. Good meme.

>>157742458
(c)

>>157743383
>t man who thinks you should be able to 1v1 assaults in mechs half their weight
Every assault should be buffed to kodiak-levels of power, not the other way around.

>>157742742
>>157743463
I have ~4300mc from being a founder.

I specified they were the (c) model so people wouldn't go "if you like this chasis, why not get this other variant" that I could buy with credits.

>>157744216
I get that you want to spend your founders MC, but buying champion mechs is LITERALLY the worst thing you can do with it.

>>157744216
Well don't waste MC on champion mechs, rather spend it on viable heroes that give you cbill bonuses.

>>157744351
Ok, what's a better way to use them?

>>157744380
I don't have enough MC for any of the hero versions of those mechs.

>>157744547
You could wait until you get enough MC accumulated from events to afford a hero mech and wait for a sale, or something.

>>157744547
wait for sale
mech bays are always useful

>>157744716
>>157744817
Alright, thanks.

So the new BT game essentially uses the two move system from nu-XCOM? I'm okay with this.

Am I a shitter if I just use my Timber Wolf as an LRM boat? new to the game but ive heard LRMs are cheesy?

>>157745889
If you're gonna use LRMs in a mad cat then at the very least pretend to be playing a stock loadout.

>250MC
>4 Supply Caches
>4 Supply Cache keys
>8 C-Bill Consumable Pack
>4,000,000 C-Bills
>100MC
>a total of 140 loot bags with various rewards, including mech bays and more MC

nice event

>>157746924
>including mech bays and more MC
>implying you'll actually get those

>>157747102
Well the only useless thing in those loot bags are the cockpit items and I doubt you'll get those very frequently.

>>157746924
I hope that haracuck does not get the big prize on his first try

t. anonymous klord with bonsai

>>157748275
the big price sucks anyway
>here, have an ugly obtrusive cockpit item to distract you from getting sick frags

>>157748582
I wish they would have more promotion items like the nivdia dawn and pc gamer skin

Guys is MWO p2w?

Does the Phoenix Hawk really suck?

>>157750168
yes
like actually just really bad

What's the worst mech in game?

>>157751081
Relative to weight, while considering the entire chassis and not just one variant: Commando.

>>157751284
Relative to weight, I'd say Victor, Spurdo and Shit Lynx are pretty up there too.

>>157751660
Victor and Spurdo can still perform, everything in the lower end of the assault line is worse than the big 100s.

Shit Lynx is pretty damn shit but at least it's comically small, ECM and has good jump jets.

No vindicator and phoenix hawks

>>157753304
No

>>157753370
Are IS hunchbacks any decent and fun to play?

>>157755215
4SP is very good
Stay away from the rest

>>157755504
What other 2 hunchbacks should i use to get the master module slot?

>>157729812
>everyone wanted

Retards wanted the Pryde TBR. It added nothing at all. Ward's was the only real choice.

>>157755772
4SP and 4G

>>157756876
What is the third one?

>>157757032
4P

All hunchbacks are alright

>>157757089
Hunchbacks are so detrimental they named a syndrome after it. One smart player on the other team and you're useless. The Hunchbacks that do suffer from this don't even do what they do any better than other mechs in the weight class.

For this very reason 4SP is the only Hunchback you should ever play.

>>157758046
HBKs are also very far from being bad at anything. They are perfectly acceptable, nevermind cheap.

>>157758417
Only when the enemy ignores you. Any "seasoned" player is conditioned to a few things, like shooting the SRM side of a D-DC, or the big fat pinata on a Hunchbacks shoulder.

And like I said, for being so detrimental, they don't perform better than other mediums that do the same thing. You want to use an AC/20? Buy a BJ-1, you get to go faster, carry an XL engine and more ammo, be able to aim up and down with your AC/20, be a smaller target in general and even have jump jets. You want to boat medium lasers? Hell there's more options to choose from than I care to list here.

It's just not good man.
4SP is excellent though thanks to ungodly turbo quirks.

What about gauss sniping with the hunchback? The weapon is right at cockpit level. If you can see it, you can hit it.

>>157759484
You can gauss snipe with the clan hunchback.

It can even carry two gauss.

>>157759484
A single goose just isn't enough firepower. Unless you P2W and buy the Grid Iron for a total of 47% Gauss Rifle cooldown.

>>157759617
What if you have a hunchback don't have a hunchback2c?

>>157759718
Then you would be stupid. Hunch2Cs are the best mediums in the game.

>>157759832
Some grognards don't like clantech.

>>157760062
Yeah well Dashing can fuck off.

How much damage should I be doing in a quick play match before I'm considered not shit?

>>157760062
If your reason to not get something is fantasy racism/tribalism then you're either deliberately gimping yourself for fun or just being silly.

I mean, gimping yourself for fun is still silly, but it's fun-silly not silly-silly.

>>157761234
You'll be considered not shit when you stop judging people by arbitrary numbers that don't mean anything.

>>157761551
>arbitrary numbers that don't mean anything
shitter confirmed

>>157761234
> below 200
you dun fucked up, kid - tier

>300-400
well at least you killed that one fucker - tier

>500-700
Carrying the team - tier

>700-900
Ya did good, real good - tier

>1000+
People are for boosting my damage stats - tier

>>157761619
>get 8 headshots
>wow shitter only did 200 damage
>spread a million SRMs into two assaults
>wow good job dealing 900 damage
yes, arbitrary

>>157761234
Damage doesn't mean anything now that you have actual statistics like "Solo Kill" and "Kill Most Damage Dealt" that give you some kind of a clue how well you did.

>>157761718
>using arbitrary arbitrarily
wew

>>157762349
>using memes arbitrarily
wew

It's out boys
1.25GB

>>157761234
If you are consistently doing above 300 damage you are an average player. Weight class doesn't matter.

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Nice Camo

>>157764489
>tfw there's assaults on my team dealing 300dmg

>>157761824
>>157764489
Match score is a better indicator. If you're consistently above 300 match score you are a decent player. If you're consistently above 400 you're very good.

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>>157764861
>709,926,199

>>157758968
The only other medium that can boat MLs is the Blackjack. Nothing else on the IS side of things can boat lasers like the BJ or 4P.

The 4J is also one of the best LRM mechs in the game, certainly the best medium. HBK hunches might be great targets, but they're also beneficial. Having all your firepower in one place is a good thing largely. You can shield with your other torso pretty fucking well, and all the hardpoints are cockpit level. Again, HBKs may not be the greatest things ever but they are better than quite a lot of other medium mechs at the things they do, and only beaten out by BJs, Shadowhawks and Griffins at the things they do well, and outside of the Enforcer (4R particularly) they are about as good as 50 tonners get. For IS anyways.

Things better than the various HBK variants:
Blackjack (most variants)
Shadowhawk (2D2 is the only notable one presently really)
Griffin (2N, 3M, Sparky)
Enforcer (2 variants at most, 4R and arguably 5P)
Wolverine (6K is the only one that gets used these days still after the nerfs, rarely, though I think the 6R isn't the worst thing ever)

Worse than the HBKs:
Everything that isn't anything above. The Trebuchet 5J, Cent AL, and a Crab or two are pretty evenly tied with the HBKs, probably.

Again, my only point is that there's a lot worse than the Hunchbacks than there are things better than them.

>>157764989
If everyone does 300~ damage in a match then it's fine. 300-400 damage spread across the whole team is all it takes to win a match efficiently.

>>157765357
Crabs are significantly better than Hunchbacks.
Cent AL was used with 3LPL regularly prior to Kodiak shifting the meta to ballistics.

I cant login shit says theres an update but steam alrdy dl'd the update the fuck mwo i just want to gear up those mechs

>>157765469
Crabs are definitely not significantly better than Hunchbacks. Crabs can be tanky as fuck, but they don't put out all that much damage in the process either, and they also have to expose more of themselves than you'd want to deal that damage. Just like the Hunchback they're far from a bad mech, but they are by no means on the level of the Blackjacks or glorious 55 ton master race. They ultimately have no niche.

>>157765794
What are you talking about? Crabs put out a significant amount of damage.

But how is the kintaro?

The event doesn't start until 5 hours from now or something, right?

>>157765935
Not really. 3LPL or 6MPL are fine, but it doesn't have the quirks the Cent AL does for the former and the latter is not as much firepower as the HBK-4P or BJ put out.

>>157766137
so bad being 55 tons can't save it

>>157766137
The best variant is it's hero, with 4x SRM6's and 3x MPLs.

Even then it's a worse Griffin 2N/ 3M.

So... yeah.

>>157766137
Garbage.

>>157766450
Even the hero is shit because the last thing you want from your srm bombs is srms spread out all over the place, which is exactly what the kintaro does.

Every draconis combine mech is shit for some reason, except the mauler.

>>157767664
Good most of those asian fucks are assholes lorewise anyways

Do you like your new (L)oser variants?

Did anyone else get both their summoner loyalty variants?

Because I sure didn't. Only one of em.

>>157768809

It was our position at the time.

Can you buy Reinforcement variant pods for the Huntsman like you could the Night Gyr and Viper?

>>157768809
60 to 90 days

>>157765421
The problem is that 100-150dmg mechs take around 40% of the rooster because walking in the open or pushing alone towards enemies which have good cover are very good ideas.

>>157768219
I am having minimally viable amounts of fun yes, thanks for asking, Russ!

>>157768932
Looks like you need to own them. I only see pods for the variants in the standard pack.

t. PGI majority shareholder

Dumbfucks thought they'd have fun for free.

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Why, though

>>157775324
fuck off greg

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>>157775324
Because fuck you.

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>mechlab shows left arm has hand actuator
>doesn't actually have a hand in the left arm
sausaga piggy

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>SRM16 Blowjob

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>>157776380
Get on my level, nerd

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>>157776781
I don't want to.

>>157776367
kill yourself

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>>157776367
way to embarass yourself on stream, shitter.

>>157779606
baka [MIO] Greglomaniac CTF-3L(L) ALIVE 199 4 3 218 62

>>157779759
>getting outdamaged by an orion and a blackjack

thats a whole new level of shitter you reached

>>157780296
Blackjacks are good though.

i just had the most shittest idea for that hellbringer

>>157780613
nice, keep me posted

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>>157779606
Tell me your build on the BJ-2 pastor.

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Wait, what?

>>157781282
Secret power creep. Lostech armour.

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>>157779606
???

what do you want from me

>>157781282
shh delet this

>>157781442
to die and free this world of your disgusting stupidity once and for all

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Why!?

>>157781793
They also fucked up the left arm laser box positioning.

Now, if you use 2x lasers on the left arm, you'll get a weird-ass space between the two.

>>157781793
PFAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PGI/10

>>157781643
what the hell crawled up your ass today

>arbitrary bump
wew

>yfw when the loyalty mechs are actually good this time

nice

>>157784618
>hbr
>good

The jack is but the rest are all basically shit.

People are just using the HBR and omnipodding the prime onto it to do the usual ECM 3las 2 UAC10 torso shit.

>>157784618
Even the summoners are pretty cool.

How do I shot airstrike?

>>157785029
>not utilizing the wonderful gift that is the energy right side torso

Plebeians, all of them.

The biggest issue with HBR laser vomit has for the longest time been that you can't spread your heavier weapons between the torsos. Now you can easily put in 2x LPL 3x ERML and not get instantly gibbed by losing one side.

Also the only one I agree to being garbage is the Cataphract. CTF-1X with added MASC is not exactly viable. Best I've been able to put on so far is just 3x LPL 2x ML, XL340, MASC and 6 extra double heatsinks.

Even then, the masc is not nearly enough to make it useful like the Executioners.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=462&l=55db19d03f8ed59e3c9d8e8a24814c80f67c7619

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=461&l=c04f7392a8864a2da5939319f9838c1c248d7171

Thoughts and opinions?

Hey, goyim.

Newest mech pack is the Supernova.

90 ton clan battlemech with nothing but lasers.

Except the hero. That ones actually somewhat competent looking.

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>>157787627
>Newest mech pack is the Supernova.
This can't be real.

>but it is
Must be Russ' BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, MORE MECHS.

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>>157787891
You'd think with a nickname like yours one would be thrilled with a battlemech that's quite frankly a walking stove.

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>>157788115
I made a quite a few smoldering craters in my day with the Supernova.

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>>157788115
Might as well post the rest of these concepts. At least they're free and nice to look at.

>these supernova variants
rofl

Maybe piggy should've taken a hint from what they had to do with the marauder iic and implemented some more weapons first.

>terra therma is now even more ridge-humpy
>covered lava channels are the only way to move without exposing yourself
>end up coming out the other side at 90% with enemies staring at you because seismic makes flanking meaningless.

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>>157788332

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>>157788115
>>157788332
>>157788758

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>>157788234
when will you notice me senpai?

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How many Blackjacks you want?

>>157790615
Just missile my shit up

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>>157788115
>>157788332
>>157788758
The ingame model is gonna look like
>

This might sound stupid but is there any real reason to take a UAC5 over just a C-AC5 besides saving the one slot?

I know about my meme double taps and stuff but I swear to literally fucking niggers that I spend more time with my fucking UAC's jammed than firing that I always waste like 5 tons every game in just ammo because for every ONE game it goes right I can burn through 5 tons of ammo no problem but then the other NINE games it goes wrong I spend like 0.5 tons of ammo then we win or I die.

>>157792715
There is no reason to ever not take UAC5s. Just don't double tap them if you don't want to jam.

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Really PGI? Come the fuck on.

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>PA Right Arm and Prime Left Arm with two energy gets you >>157793037
>Prime Right and Left Arm with two energy gets you pic related

Jesus fucking Christ.

>>157793037
>Put the prime right arm on
>enjoy your faglord symmetry

Really anon? Come the fuck on. It has more to do with MUH LORE than it does PGI making bad design choices.

>>157793431
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
No.
Fuck you.
I'll still complain that it's shitty boxes tacked onto the side rather than placing them in the arm proper.

>>157793037
Blame battletech. The pig just makes the shit BT designs into real ones.

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>>157793037
>>157793292
>>157794478

>>157793635
Then you must really hate the Viper and his arm-mounted lasers.

Let alone why even run a 8 laser build. The fuck is that 8 splas and 10 heatsinks?

>>157794898
8 mpl, 17 dblheatsinks, and a targeting computer
It's a no go, too hot.

>>157795132
3 mlas with 7 dbl heatsinks is too hot for the huntsman anon.

The best "boat" you can hope for is like 2 lpl 2mlas and even then its still really hot.

>getting those huntsmen kmdds must be pretty easy right after release, they'll be everywhere
>yfw cataphract- and bjpocalypse

>>157795709
>2 lpl 2mlas
How is that the best you can hope for?
You could do 2lpl 4ml and come out with the same heat efficiency on paper as 8 srm4, and I know how that one runs.

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The things you can do with BAP and Target Decay.

>>157796497
>actually paying for the pahket

WELL EXCUUUUUUUUUSE ME PRINCESS.

When everyone is picking terra therma 24/7 for the next two weeks it's honestly not that efficient to run 2lpl 4ml. I mean unless you had enough gexp to alredy get elite. I struggle to not overheat in my huntsman with only 2 lpl 2mpl.

What do you guys think of the new terra? They turned it into a map from Star Wars: Podracer or atleast that's how everyone is playing it.

>>157797634
It's pretty shit. It's obvious that they force you into the same like G7-E7 little center bowl for fighting, and one side has a huge turn with a wide road in and a plateu to popcorn and get height on, meanwhile the otehr side has ONE rock for cover unless you walk and fall into the lava-filled canyon.

Also like every fucking map domination favors the FUCK out of one side because both teams approach from the sides listed, but the side with the plateu and wide road are like fucking 5 steps away from it, I have yet to have a game where one side does not have a 30-45 second lead over the team that spawns further away on the coverless side.

Also my other gripe is half of the terrain you can jump on for angles and height advantage end up leading you literally nowhere besides lava rivers, which only add to increase your heat for no reason because you're already 150 meters up a hill that's 600 meters wide with nowhere to JJ over it.

>>157798017
>Also my other gripe is half of the terrain you can jump on for angles and height advantage end up leading you literally nowhere besides lava rivers, which only add to increase your heat for no reason because you're already 150 meters up a hill that's 600 meters wide with nowhere to JJ over it.

This. I was lucky that I had Jump Jets but there was an easily walkable slope up and suddenly a wall. All the weather effects are very distracting and it only makes the amount of ECM right now even worse.

How's everyone liking their new rainbow vomit paintjobs?

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ERPPC + 4 mg CDA-3C is working better than it has any right to. I spent 12m CBills on this thing, the fucking engine alone was 5.5m when the mech is only like 3m.

>>157797634
I think it looks amazing. It only plays ok.

>pgi actually made the huntsman challenge kmdd OR killing blow
I guess they finally realized that the daily kmdd challenge promotes a playstyle that makes no goddamn sense.

Group drops happening.

>second game on new terra therma
>people are just kind of randomly dying everywhere on both teams
>solo assaults wandering into the maze of rocks and lava and never coming back
>it's just rocks and lava everywhere
>enemy mechs coming from random directions and exploding
This is probably the most confused I've ever been with a map since I first started playing the game.

>>157801774
really makes you think doesn't it?

>tfw lurms are a minimally viable weapon
>tfw the huelander would be dank as fuck if the lurms were good

Is pakhet poo in loo?

>>157802949
>Egypt
>India
I'm buying you a globe for Christmas anon.

>>157803624
>Lack of geography gets him a globe

If I claim to be a virgin, will you get me a hooker?

You could just introduce me to your sister, same deal.

>>157803896
Sure.

Why don't you have a seat over there?

>>157804229
I was just here to explain how dangerous it is to meet people over the internet.

The alcohol and condoms were something else afterwards.

Just bought a TDR-5SS

What am I in for?

>>157804515
a shitmech

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>>157804515
ancient med pulse memes

>>157764992
>Can get 300+ constantly with only two mechs
>Can't get into the groove of using any other mech

This is true suffering.

>Enjoying using the Marauder
>My AC20/LBX-10/AC2s that are mounted on the shoulder die a lot though

Frustrating.

>>157761251
I really just hate clan mechs.

That and they're just expensive to master

Also I have this stupid urge to prove that IS mechs are just as great or whatever.

Why is the Centurion AH so fun

Mechs that can mount AC20? I just want to see crispy ballistic impacts.

>>157806590
I've more or less given up on mounting ballistic on my marauder, it's the first thing to be shot off seemingly within seconds of my first engagement.

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Nerds of Kong, should I be excited about those new really cheap high end graphics cards like the GTX1050? Are they even high end? They're so cheap I feel like I should finally build my new PC. I'm pretty sure mine is on the verge of death, it's sluggish af and half the keys don't work anymore.

>>157807257
>cheap high end cards
does not compute

I'd get at least a 1070, 1050 is shit.

>>157807257
rin a shit

>>157806590
Its the easiest thing to hit on it. I also have the strong tendency to aim at the shoulders on most of the engagements, but I dont know if its something I really should do.

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>>157807349
But doesn't higher number = more graphics?

????
Tbh I just want to play Deathwing, HGA, the new dude sex and maybe Shitizen now that it might actually be a real game in a few years.
>>157807381
Fuck off Greg

>>157807776
no
I bet you don't even have her limited SR card

>>157807776
???
1080>1070>1060>1050

That's pretty low on the ladder.

How is this difficult for you?

The 1050/150 Ti is $109/$139. It's not that good.

>>157808013
But it's over 1k anon which is more than my 9xx which must mean it can run everything on high

>>157808013
Yeah but is it better than a 960?

>>157806590
When twisting to spread damage, look up or down while doing so. The long torso will swing quite a long way and can dodge projectiles with just subtle movements.

I use an XL engine in mine and it works out fine because very few pubs seem to be able to wrap their heads around an XLrauder existing.

>>157808158
Are you too retarded to look at reviews or something?

I mean the 1050 isn't out yet but I'd wait for reviews.

>>157808210
Should be.
Take the x50 of current gen and equate that to x60 of last gen. Same goes for x70 and x80, etc. Generally speaking.

>>157808386
Ok, thanks Phillip bae

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what the shit

So did they nerf the shit out of LPLs over summer or what

>>157808335
Safest one I've found was to use AC2's and PPCs and just be a ranged guy, which goes against my brawling preferences, but oh well.

>>157808547
NP :animatedwinkysmileyemoji:
Give me ur phone # on steam :^)

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>>157809031
Last I checked no
>swap the goose and 5 med pulse on fastingphract for quad LPL
>average damage per match almost triples
spicy

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>Very fast catahparct running at incredible hihg speed

the most fun IS mech released in the past 3 years

>>157788115
>>157788234
>>157788758
>Supernova in a game where it hits spooky heat on every single one of its configurations
What were they thinking? It's dead on arrival.

>>157814532
They were thinking their power draw system wasn't shit, but then... well...

>Not sure if I just suck or the Hellbringer does
Build suggestions?

>>157814532
Ghost Heat Count Max + 4
or
Power Draw Max +30
and
Laser Heat Generation -20%

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any old hawken players still around?

>>157816058
>Implying PGI will give clan mechs any kind of useful quirks
Good one.

>>157814532
All they need to do is give it 20% less energy heat gen. That's it.

>>157816510
Mad Dog has substantial quirks all around. Warhawk's UAC Jam Chance used to be -30%. Technically Myst Lynx has fat qwerks even if it can't make much use of them. Night Gyr's null heat transfer is big enough on its own on hot maps, set bonuses are toppings. Kodiak still manages to squeeze in extra HP despite already being the best assault on paper.

>>157819750
With a max engine rating of 325 the viability of an array of smaller lasers is drastically reduced. It will have to use a lot of big guns and that is when spooky heatz is a roadblock that can't be bypassed without basically doing a slower Warhawk C clone in a 90 ton chassis.

It will definitely need something to tweak the ghost heat effect on ERLLs and/or add a large amount of duration reductions. If we're using the power draw system, it may be able to get away with firing one full arm at a time with minimal extra heat.

>>157820029
>viability of an array of smaller lasers is drastically reduced

It only gets 8 energy hardpoints max anyways so it engine size isn't the only thing stopping that.

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>Forum all talking about nerfs to mechs.
>The 'nerfs' are -40% UAC jam chance from -30%.
Isn't having a larger minus to jam chance... good?

>>157821178
It's the shitty wording in the patch notes. "Decreased" is automatically associated as being bad.

>SUPERNOVA
I FUCKING CALLED IT

I
FUCKING
CALLED
IT

YES

>>157821463
Oh and it's the same speed as a Dire Wolf, with no ferro or endo, with a Standard engine and less hardpoints than a normal Nova.

Probably the new worst mech in the game.

>>157821758
It's a battlemech you stupid faggot

>>157821915
oh
kill me I deserve it

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>>157821758
This is probably going to be its best build, honestly. Still only as fast as a Dire, maxed out armor, and a total of 24 heat sinks. And it's probably better on the Dire Wolf.

>>157822379
I'm just going to run it with 6ERLL like a real man.

>>157822379
Going for such a low speed XL? You brave man.

>>157822860
It's still Clantech so you still need to kill both torsos. Also Table top values I can't go incremental engines like I can in MWO.

You could probably find enough tonnage to go to 325 by removing heat sinks, upgrade to Endo, then use whatever left for heat sinks.

>>157821178
They're mostly talking about inner sphere mechs like the shadowhawk and the jaegermech going from 30% reduction to just 20% reduction in UAC jam chance.

Which, to be fair, made no sense at all on PGI's part. Neither did the shift from 30% to 20% on the Nova. "Oh no, a nova with 6 er small lasers and an ultra autocannon 10! he can do 50 damage over 2 seconds!"

>>157822379
Why doesn't smurfy update with the pre-order mechs? There's enough info in the store to add them.

>>157823306
Because Smurfy gets the data from the game files itself.

>>157823174
Smurfy needs to create a blank template mech that has no restrictions on anything, sort of like the blank weapons in the warframe builder site.

>>157823306
It reads from the game files rather than someone entering in the numbers manually.

>XL325
>No Ferro or Endo
>Shave 14 armor
>TC1
>6x ERLL
>30 dubs
>No JJs because lmao Class 1
I want this so bad
Might even grab deal because I'm stupid and I like stupid mechs

>>157823497
Might be fun. You'd have 79.20 (Or 86.40) heat cap at least. You could shoot 3 at a time and not feel the heat.

>>157823742
Don't forget the insane dissipation speed.

>>157823497
>>157823742
>>157823794
But why not just do that on the Dire whale? The Supernova is going to release already obsoleted. It's only advantage is going 10 kph faster which isn't a whole lot on an assault. Unless it gets some crazy quirk, which it won't, it's a shitmech.

>>157824016
Who the fuck cares you stupid autist.

>>157823497
Endo and Ferro with a standard engine will be able to fit 27 DHS and 6 ERLLs, though leg armor will drop into heavy territory. Cheaper option with zombie potential on certain variants.

If the quirks permit it could be manageable enough compared to 30 DHS and XL.

>>157824078
bro it's a clan XL

>>157824016
>10kph faster than 52 isn't a whole lot

It makes a world of difference. That's close enough to KDK-3 vs Dire Wolf speed differences.

>>157824078
Mite b cool. Those torsos and arms look big enough to be pretty good shields.

>>157824156
It could still be possible. You could shield with your entire left side, then your entire right side. Instead of dropping when you lose your second torso. Might also catch someone by surprise expecting you to run XL and shooting your relatively weaker torsos.

>>157824284
it's a CLAN XL
what hour is this

>>157824349
>when you lose your second torso.

He understands.

Someone recommend me a Huntsman build I haven't seen yet.
My A is barren.

>>157824637
UAC10 + SRMs?

>>157824536
Only problem I see with that build though is that the ERLLs have a 1.5 second burn time which kind of kills its chances of doing any kind of really fancy shielding. Which is too bad, it could take a truly obscene amount of punishment if you optimally shielded every shot.

>>157824637
Have you ran a Gauss+ERMLs build yet? Or go with an UAC20.

>>157824284
>Instead of dropping when you lose your second torso

Are you ok? Do you have brain damage?

Let me spell it out for you. It doesn't matter if you have a standard on a mech that lost all it's weapons. There is nothing gained.

>>157824994
SNV-3 has two energy hardpoints in the CT. You can fit two ERLLs there. And the other four on the arms.

>>157825075
Oh actually it's even better than that. You also have a head energy hard point so that's 3 ERLLs you can keep 100% of the time.

>>157824156
>>157824349
Two variants can fit two out of six of those ERLLs in the CT / HD. That means its a viable zombie mech with a standard engine. It will start getting toasty but 22 damage from a zombie is nothing to sneeze at.

>>157825075
>>157825132
>>157825362
You honestly think you'll have time to shield your giant CT when you're shooting ERLLs, ie, the weapon with the longest duration in the game?

>>157825362
>>157825132
>>157825075
>trying to be competitive in a novelty shitmech
sm8 that's a loss-loss situation you have there

>>157824859
>gauss+ERMLs

The only variant that SHOULD be built on is the Prime with it's stock pods.

It'll get 10% cooldown for the gauss, which combined with a gauss cooldown module and the mastery skill, gives your gauss a cooldown of 3.65.

The 10% ER laser duration reduction also makes your ER mediums synchronize perfectly with the gauss cooldown.

>>157824853
Does this keep with stock? Or how many SRMs are we talkin' here? Sounds like I might need a Prime Right, and a C Left torso.

>>157824859
As another anon mentioned, the best build for that is the Prime, with LLs.
But I'm likin' the UAC20 idea kinda? Sadly the C I think has the UAC quirks.
Wonder if an LBX fits in there...

>>157825442
Turn torso to one side and move arms to shoot, repeat with other side. Really depends on the hitboxes.

>>157827383
Nigga stop

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>>157826678
The HMN-P and the HMN-C can be built stock with that setup.

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>>157827578
Here's the HMN-P, but without stock as I used the right torso on my Pakhet for laser vomit.

Man the new Terra Therma is just like the old one: nothing but tight choke points next to hills so the entire game is just peekaboo.

>>157827578
>>157827670
N-no ARTEMIS?

>>157828048
What did you expect from someone suggesting a UAC/10, 3xSRM6 2xML2 build with 11 heatsinks.

>>157828048
Well, you can switch the stock HMN-C's medium lasers and heatsink for artemis SRM6's if you want.

But the HMN-P doesn't really need it, as the huntsmans weapon grouping is actually pretty tight, and the clan SRM4's are still within acceptable limits in terms of spread as not to need artemis.

You could even switch out the ERML's on the HMN-C for three small pulse lasers and still be within acceptable heat limits.

>Retarded team, Defeat
>Retarded team, Defeat
>Retarded team, Defeat
>Retarded team, Defeat
>Retarded team, Defeat
MAKE IT STOP

>>157827770
I feel less fucked on the new Terra Therma since there's small places to hide, but I dont play big mechs.

>>157828561
The map looks big but it's actually really claustrophobic. Every area is a choke point to camp and there's hills to peek over everywhere. Worst map didn't get a whole lot better to be honest with you family.

>>157828154
A dead dove.

Davion pattern is so good it should be considered pay 2 win.

>>157791615
>
Like a concept art since counting from marauder every mech model looked like it. I am more worried aboutspecial and hero camos which are less than ideal and look much better at concept art.

>>157832021
Only thing I could really see is the Special variant losing a bit of the starry nebula detail (which I literally just realized is the product of a supernova, FD you bastard) but even there FD seems to be taking care to make those simple enough to translate into the blurry 2k textures for the game.

So

When will the Supernova even ship?

>>157832682
February, so four or so months from now.
So a bit longer than 60 to 90 days.

>>157832682
Says right there.
Feb 21st for grab dealers, May 2nd for MC and June 6th for poorfags.

>>157832870
>>157832682
So 60 + 60 days.

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Is GMan129 the guy all the shitters parrot for "objective" opinions?

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Rate my newest medium mech.

>>157833502
halve your back armor and you're good to go

>>157833483
Yeah, that's the faggot.

>>157833660
He's gay?

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>>157816234
No.

>Wilson's Hussars
PGI cashing in on the memes I see.

>>157833502
Try 7 x med pulse 315std, also lower yours back armour to 8 wherever you change your loadout.

>>157807257

>50 series.
>high end.

>enable in game voip
>two old men convincing themselves the supernova will somehow be better than the kodiak 3
yeah

>>157804310
I've met several kongers before. The only dangerous one is greg

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>>157807257
gtx750ti in here, solid 60@1080p with medium gfx
CPU is what matters in Cryengine game.

>>157835331
Go figure. Who could have guessed?

>>157835960

CPU is what matters in MWO, but in properly coded cryengine games, you need both.

Source: man who spent 4000 hours playing the crysis series.

>>157836293
>man who spent 4000 hours playing the crysis series.
crysis 2 while in a drug induced coma eating gluten free pizza*

I give the Blackjack-2 (BJ-2) a rating of 5 out of 5, no salami.

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>>157836409

>he doesn't know about my millions of hours in crysis 3 on origin.

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>>157835331
Bass buy me nigga gyr package pls
i need to sealclub to tier 1 for the third time

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>>157837085

No.

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>>157837197
pls..share some of your autismbux..

>>157837290
Why don't you get your own? You definitely qualify.

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>>157837451
my government doesnt give money to neets sadly..
b-but in 2 months i will start my own business..just waiting for the permits :3

>>157837585
what government is that?

>>157838815
Al dente

Who here wants to gift me the Supernova standard pack?

>>157839117
>Being poor

>>157839191
Yes

>>157838912
Italy?

>Marauder IIC hero
>Supernova hero
>both almost exactly the same

Good lord PGI is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Both of them will end up running 2x UAC10 2x LPL on them anyway. The MAD will be faster but won't be able to just and the SVN will be slow as molasses but can ju- I mean hoverjet a bit.

>>157838815
a very shitty one that is falling apart

>>157840575
>Assault jump jets
>on anything
>ever
>for any reason
no

>>157840624
Just one by using the remaining tonnage isn't bad. It'll let you get over those fucking ridiculous rocks PGI keeps slapping all over maps that cripple your movement as an assault.

>>157840602
Boy that really narrows it down.

>>157843173
>hawken
>good mech designs
>>it walks
>>has no other functions

SUPERnova has some weird ass looking feet

>>157837585

I'll eagerly come visit Pardo's Pasta Palace ;^)

how is the wolfhound?

>>157844926
Pretty shite.

I mean, it can run either really fast with an XL, or be rather tough with a standard engine, but it's still limited by having 5 MPLs or 6 ML's.

>>157844926
It was pretty good before, but then they made it the size of a hunchback (literally) and now it's pretty worthless

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for Vass

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>>157843437
Try not to burn out that last brain cell using your imagination.

>>157846216
Who?

>>157745889
Yes. You are wasting so much potential, it's not even funny. If you want to lurm, look at the Hunchback 4J or an Adder. If you are lurming in a heavy or assault, you are depriving yoru team of frontline armour, frontline firepower and have to be carried by everyone else.

If you lurm, bring your own TAG, bring LRM5+Artemis over large launchers, bring backup weapons (medium lasers et. al.), learn minmum ranges, learn how not to shoot fucking buildings and walls, and know that you will end up either dead from a flank or dead because you are one of the last people alive, as your team crumbled from missing a prime heavy at the front.

>>157849989
Shitty lurm builds are mediocre in the underhive

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>>157850421
I agree. Don't bring shitty lurm builds.

>>157849989
>tfw lurming in assaults and not giving a shit about tanking for your team

>>157850878
>tfw I have to watch you sit 50m from spawn, lurming anything that has ared dorito, regardless of whether you hit or not, only to see you merc'ed by a random locust while you complain about lights being OP in all chat

>>157850878
>tfw I run up behind a LRM assault and brutally anal rape the worthless poof

>>157850878
>>157851230

Thanks guys for nascaring

Supernova when?

>>157852668
>trading 30 tons to kill 80+ tons of faggot
>nascaring

Maybe you just need to git gud

>>157853005
they call it a supernova when I finish inside ur mum

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What's wrong with lrms on an assault?

I am sure newfags are getting tricked by the firepower value for boating lurms

>>157853546
>that quick and dirty loadout
>not even good lurms
>no case on the chest burster bomb
>not even trying to make it look viable though it never is unless you are playing FW but then you'd be playing FW, you EMP tryhard

2/10, enough to reply, still clearly bait.

>>157853935
>>no case on the chest burster bomb
Ignore that. I had a terminal case of the blind.

>>157854008
Does that get me at least a 3/10?

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>>157852668

>>157854470
Yeah, I'm upgrading your rating. My favourite part is the empty legs with the case'd chest, now that I think about it. Well done.

Also the half ton in the head. So subtle.

What faction should I choose?

>>157855305
does not matter because you won't be playing faction play

>>157855305
Whatever your unit picks. If no unit, none.

>you need "coolant in the jenner"-pajeet for maximum srm bombing
p2w

>>157855476
Are there an /vg/ units?

Are there any /vg/ units that aren't circlejerks and cliquishness?