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>[Halloween Comeback! Mega Huge Pumpkin Village from 10/19 - 11/2]
>http://cms.fate-go.jp/web/2016/92naoz/
- 4* welfare Saber Liz
- New challenge quests
- New CEs >>157651258 (Cross-thread)

-Halloween 2016 gacha:
-5* Assassin Cleopatra
-4* Lancer Vlad

>[Singing Pumpkin Castle Adventure ~Mad Party 2015~ Rerun from 10/12-10/26]
>http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20161012.php#nav
-4* Caster Liz obtainable again
-Gorilla time quests are back again
-Old Event Craft Essences are back

-Halloween 2015 Rerun Gacha
5* Tamamo
4* Carmillia
4* Tamamo Cat
3* Clown
3* Darius

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- New vers - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- Mashu Kyrielight's voice actress has been replaced with Rie Takahashi as Risa Taneda remains on hiatus to recover from illness. Taneda's other roles remain unchanged
- Class dailies have been updated to include new material drops
>New bond CEs:
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20161005
-Halloween event 2016 coming sometime this October
http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/92naoz/
-4* Saber Elizabeth Bathory (Brave) welfare for Halloween 2016
-Rare Prisms have been added to Da Vinci's Shop (Gained from using 4* or 5* servants as Reinforcement materials or burning, Welfare servants excluded)
-Rare Prisms are used to purchase previous event items

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html

>CMs
http://www.mediafire.com/download/960gn6g6w2p0l8q/FGO+Material+I.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj405jjjc9ly94e/FGO+Material+II.zip
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xth for
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>>157675031
HAHA TIME FOR THE GOOD VLAD
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THE WAIT FOR LIZ IS PAINFUL.
At least tell us if she's single target or not.
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Ramesses!
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Xth for best archer
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Why is she so perfect, /fgog/?
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>female assassin boss
Is it her time?
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Top 10 for crippling depression
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>>157675125
B A S E D Himukai !
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>>157675237
>mememilla
Nope.
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>>157675125
Is this just a 5 star version of Kaleido red CE
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>>157675237
no, she's old and busted
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>>157675237
That is one lewd keyhole.
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>>157675125
I want to fuck Liz's armpitpussy!
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>>157675121
>filler trash character
>good vlad
You could feel how rushed he was. "Personality" was nothing but deviantart tier inane screaming and was only made to fill another week of pointless grinding.
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>>157675245
A shitpost a day keeps the noose away
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post servant idols
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So what caused the Melvin resurgence?
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>>157675218
Because all gorgons are perfection.
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>one of the most famous black figures in history
>make her white

The Japs can't do a god damn thing right.
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>>157675554
WE
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>>157675554
WE
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>Romulus has the counterpart to Rhon so he is as strong
>Does that mean Arondight is as strong as Excalibur because it's its counterpart?
>HURR DERP FUCK OFF S-STOP EXPOSING ME AS THE RETARD I AM
Love the damage control going on here.
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>>157675554
>>157675585
Stop shitposting
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xth for Robin Hood a cute!
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>>157675437
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>>157675453
He thinks it's been long enough that people have forgotten about the Herk fiasco, but it hasn't. Reminder Herk > melvin's party.
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Best boy.
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I'm angry
Angry about Cleo
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>>157675686
Frankie is a miracle of man
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rip
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Reminder Saber Lancelot > Herkfags team and made them use 3 CS
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>>157675631
>We already know Excalibur is a Last Phantasm and the only one of it's kind but I'll shitpost my buzzwords and memes regardlessly for the delicious (you)'s
You got one from me, and that's all you're getting. Neck yourself shitposter
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>>157675218
she has no butt
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>>157675631
There's actually a big difference there. Rhon and Roma's spear have a concept that lie on opposite sides of each other, which is why they are counterparts. They have similar functions in being pillars of the world. Arondight is only the sister sword of Excalibur because it has a similar origin in being from fae. It doesn't carry a concept like Excalibur does. Excalibur has the concept of being Gaia's sword that is meant to protect it. Arondight has no such thing.

tldr; the two situations are not equal.
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>>157675820
But Saber Lancelot was easy.
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I used 3 CS against Berserker Lancelot in France because he raped my Heracles and the rest of my team
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>>157675753
Why do people dislike Cleo? She looks cool.
Is it because muh brown sluts?
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RIZ THREAD
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Thread as lovely as ever,i see
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>>157675975
Then why did you use 3 CS?
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>>157676027
>i see
Are you sure?
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>>157676042
Didn't. Smashed through him pretty easily. My Kintoki is a good boy.
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>>157676016
KILL IT
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>>157676027
Don't open your eyes Tristan. Keep them shielded from this garbage.
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>>157675437
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>>157676016
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>>157675656
As soon as you learn history, Jamal.
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>>157675832
>We already know Arondight is the coubterpart of Excalibur and has the same origin but I'll shitpost my buzzwords and memes regardlessly for the delicious (you)'s
You got one from me, and that's all you're getting. Neck yourself shitposter.

>>157675864
>Arondight is only the sister sword of Excalibur
COUNTERPART, the sister trash is that A+ shit Galatine. Arondight has the same origin as Excalibur which means made by Gaia.
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>>157676194
I want to see the Dragon-blooded offspring Elizabeth would bare Siegfried.
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>>157676258
It literally doesn't have the same concept that Excalibur does you fucking idiot
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>>157676105
>Didn't
Sorry but we all know you used 3 CS against Saber Lancelot, there is no point in lying.
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>>157676258
And Arondight still doesn't carry the concept of being the sword of defense for Gaia. You failed to address that point because you can't. Arondight does not have the concept to rival Excalibur like Rhon/ROMA do.
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>>157675031
What is this expression trying to convey?
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>>157676245
I don't give a shit what color she is. She can be green for all I care. You are purposefully posting that topic for the intent of shitflinging and causing arguments. Fuck off
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>>157676258
>Can't refute the truth so he parrots
No need to be this mad fatty
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>>157676403
>Excalibur protects Gaia and everything in it
>Arondight only protects itself and its owner
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>>157676412
Still having your meltdown I see. Face it, you got caught in a lie. I'm done replying to you.
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>>157676016
Why did they make Liz's tail so fat and disgusting? Isn't she supposed qute? I bet it's also slimy eww
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>>157676441
>implying that the arondight doesn't embody the concept of perfect warrior, peerless in his era
>implying that it cannot only be wielded by one that is truly unrivaled combatant
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>>157676258
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>>157676446
The pleasure of removing kebab.
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>>157676446
The feeling of impaling infidels
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>>157676518
>can't refute so he complains about parrot
No need to be this mad fatty
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>>157676526
>and its owner
Arondight is unbreakable, the owner isn't.
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>>157676468
That wasn't me though, I don't even browse /int/ or wherever that shit came from, s-sumanai
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>>157676589
Siegfried wields a bigger sword. He's already stated to be the better swordsman.
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>>157676667
Nothing can get past Arondight so the owner is as unbeatable as the sword itself.
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Can you faggots fucking stop this powerlevel circlejerk in every single fucking thread? Nobody gives a shit if your gay husbando can be stronger than another person's gay husbando in a specific situation. Nobody fucking gives a shit.
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>>157676704
Please don't drag Siegfried-kun into this.
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>>157676745
>Nothing can get past Arondight so the owner is as unbeatable as the sword itself
That's a pretty spicy meme
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>>157676526
It doesn't make the owner indestructible. And it's only indestructible until something breaks it. Rho Aias was called the ultimate defense and unbeatable by projectiles, yet it broke against a projectile.
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>>157676789
It's literally just melvin replying to himself. He alone keeps this shit up.
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>>157675237
Nah. Jack fills pretty much the same niche as Carmilla, only Jack is plain better at getting the job done. Not that Carmilla is bad, but Jack is one of the best servants in the game and even though Carmilla is not bad she's also not as good.
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>>157676789
>please stop discussing things I don't like
Fuck off manchild.
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>>157676898
I guess it's more some newlads/autists responding and some people posting like Melvin because 'ironic' shitposting is fun.
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>>157676745
Lancelot can't block everything with it. Fuck, pulling out Arondight against Gil would've gotten him killed in Zero. He needed KoH to even stand a chance. Arondight seals it takes that away and only allows him to defend against a few attacks at a time.
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>>157676854
Arondight is unbreakable as in everything does 0 damage to it.

>>157676816
>Lancelot didn't put Arondight in front
Yeah thanks for proving my point
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>>157676816
You mean spic-y?
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>>157676952
>discussing
It's literally the same people every thread making the same baseless posts about their favorite servant being UNDOUBTEDLY stronger because of something that never happend but could've happened. Just look at the guy saying that Arondight renders the user invincible despite that not being a property of it.
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>>157677006
And Rho Aias can't be beaten by projectiles. But it was anyway. Arondight is only unbreakable until the author doesn't want it to be.
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>>157677001
(You)
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>>157675147
King of Kings!
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>>157677076
So discussion you don't like.
Gotcha.
Maybe you should use your time more wisely and contribute to the fucking thread, reddit.
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Cleopatra is another shitty Danganronpa reject, Vlad looks bad and his attack is garbage. Very disappointed. We should have gotten Semiramis.
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>>157675031
>Halloween event 2016 coming sometime this October
No shit, Sherlock.
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>>157677138
>I don't have an argument, better give up and give a meme reply.
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>>157676952
>manchild calls out a manchild

lamo
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>>157677245
>semishitter is a gameplay fag
its like pottery
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>>157677245
>FP Gacha
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>>157677116
Arondight takes 0 damage NO MATTER THE ATTACK.
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>>157677190
I have to agree with him. It's not discussion at this point. It's literally the same people repeating the same things. Nothing new comes of it because there is no new info to work with.

Pro tip: reddit isn't the same as "thing I don't like"
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>>157677245
I honestly believed the Jannu Alter and Tamamo gachas were baiting us for something good.
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>>157677190
>discussing means coming up with arguments that are literally not canon just to prove your favorite servant is stronger
Okay reddit, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>157677181
Aniue!
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>>157677264
>manchild believes he's superior because he calls out both sides of an argument
nice
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>>157677383
:^)
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>>157677359
But it's smaller than lancelot so he can't use it like you use greatswords in monster hunter

When he gets blasted by EXcalibur there'll be nothing but Aronidght and dust
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>>157677181
More like king of fujos. When will this piece of shit stop being wanked so damn hard?
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>>157677359
And Rho Aais IS UNBEATABLE BY PROJECTILES.

You have nothing that can beat the fact that it still broke against a projectile. Arondight will only be unbreakable until the author wants it to be broken. That's how fiction works.
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>>157677383
>manchild thinks he's superior because he calls out all sides of an argument
nice
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>>157677363
Tell that to your buddy over here then and make him apologise:
>>157677375
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>>157677245
If Cleo's abilities are interesting, I'll roll for her.
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>>157677245
Just more proof that Semi will play a major role in Babylonia or an Apoc event
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>>157676816
>Arondight made it's owner unbeatable.
>shown a canon pic where he lost and died even while wielding it in his superior servant form.
>can't even find the holy grail unlike his son who was said to exceeded Lancelot in every way.
>he didn't put it in front I swear! >>157677006

Top kek! Never change Melvin!
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Reminder that Liz will forever be the Halloween servant because she is perfect.
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>>157677485
I will.

>>157677375
Stop calling people reddit. It's a cancer and you're actively making 4chan a worse place by doing so.
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>>157677593
Agreed.
She is the embodiment of fun, what Halloween is all about.
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>>157677181
>>157677378
Brothers! Long life to the Sunlight family!
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>>157677515
Her design ruins it for me. Forget the shitty Danganronpa art style, why does she look like her wardrobe came from Hot Topic?
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>>157677624
>She is the embodiment of fun
Bullshit.
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>>157677679
>Forget the shitty Danganronpa art style
Forget your shitty ass taste.
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>>157677731
Get that whore outta here.
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>>157677649
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>>157677679
I'm banking on a good final art, but honestly I'm probably just setting myself up for disappointment. I actually like the artist but he can fuck off with that outfit.
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>>157677731
>Embodyment of fun
>when she's not even the most fun loving servant in the game she debuted in.
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>>157677470
>needs 7 layers
Nothing says it can't be damaged by projectiles. Entirely different concepts, Arondight takes 0 damage regardless of the attack, Rho Aias is the ultimate defense against projectiles but it can still be damaged.

>>157677424
That's not how beams work in fiction, just drop that meme already, both Gawain and King Hassan proved it wrong.
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>>157677731
He said fun not slut
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>>157677731
We're not talking about that kind of "fun",m8.
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>Ozzy is mega wanked on camelot and prototype
>it all just makes Moses even stronger
Loving
Every
Laugh
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Would Kotomine shitpost on /fgog/ for fun?
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>>157677913
Alright so we've got Kintoki for fantastic Quick welfare, Kuro for great Arts welfare, will she be the ST Buster Saber that we need?
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when the fuck does the new event start

>>157677905
Moses was already wanked by Ozzy in Prototype

He basically said that it took all of the Egyptian Gods to prevent Egypt from being BTFO by God and Moses and even then they took a big hit
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>>157677893
Then what kind of "fun" is the fun that's being talked about?
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>>157677858
Rho Aias can't be beaten by projectiles. I said nothing to the contrary. It was still beaten though. Therefore its concept lost to Gae Bolg's concept of always hitting the target.

And not all works of fiction are equal. The pic you posted has Gawain using a skill to power up his sword to block it. It's not the same as outright blocking an attack.
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>>157677538
>Memegeta
>can't argue the fact that Lancelot didn't defend with Arondight
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>>157677913
>more ATK than Vlad
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>>157678001
The 19th in Japan, usual time.
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>>157677858
>shows Gawain's deflecting a beam
>not even Excalblast
>not even Vasavi Shakti
>not even powerful nor large enough to compare to those two as beams.
It's like pottery, Lancelot's with Arondight is unbeatable RIGHT?
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>>157677679
So Caesar is a fat guy who hooks up with some weird crazy bitch working at Hot Topic. How true to life.
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>>157677858
Don't my manga to shitpost
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>>157678070
It aint hard. Bikini Kiyo has more attack than Vlad.
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>>157678038
>It was still beaten though
It wasn't, Gae Bolg failed in it's mission. They tied, therefore, Rho Aias was not beaten.

>power up his sword
Because Galatine doesn't take 0 damage regardless of the attack. If he tried without boosts it would break and fuck his shit up.

King Hassan deflected Gawains beam too and he didn't require power ups.
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is there any new workaround for FGO on emulators/some other non-legitimate thing like VMWare or something or has the drought continued
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>>157677905
>Solomon is a Grand Servant and one of the biggest threats
>David bond CE is the Ark of the covenant Which is OP as fuck
Seems like Biblical characters are on another level.
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>>157678070
Brave Liz's attack is on the high end as far as 4*'s go.
Not counting Alters and Berserkers, only Gawain is higher.
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>>157678140
Don't use Teru to shitpost you piece of shit
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What the fuck is Cleo. She really does look exactly like a Danganronpa reject. Holy shit. I know FGO doesn't always have the best designs but this is just foul.
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RIZ THREAD
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>>157678408
Fuck off.
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>>157678045
>Arondight is unbeatable
>so Lancelot is unbeatable
>pic where he lost while using it
>he didn't block it!
So Lancelot is beatable even with Arondight, amirite Melvinlot? ;^)
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Shishou thread
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>>157678408
Maybe her sprites are decent at least
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>>157678140
>nor large enough
Larger than the sword by a big deal, still deflected. How about you post a beam going around a sword to hit it's target in Nasuverse, oh wait, you can't because it never happened and you are just trying to damage control.
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>>157677649
The cutest family.
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>>157678528
Dantes only looked cool because his sprites didn't make his Danganronpa design too obvious. I doubt the same thing will happen to Hot Topic Cleopatra.
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>>157678575
Still not as large nor powerful as Excaliblast, Melvin. ;^)
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>>157677649
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>>157678809
Neither is Galatine near as durable as Arondight, Gilcuck. :^)
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>>157678317
King Hassan is a GRAND. The most the bullshit thing you can be. They're on a different level from servants on regular class containers.
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Have any anons traded accounts before?

Did you trade an account with event items/servants for an account without? Does it suck, or do you get over it?
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>>157678945
Galatine isn't Gawain, the sword itself isn't buffed by Numeral. It stays exactly as durable as ever and wasn't destroyed by Arondight despite them fighting while Numeral was active, where Camelot confirms he would shatter other weapons.
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Ury
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>>157678317
>comparing a Grand Servant like King Hassan to Gawain and Lancelot.
That's not fucking fair, Melvin will cry blood and shit bricks trying to find fault to King Hassan so Meme lot can win.
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>>157678365
RemixOS.

But if you're going to use VMWare, you need lots of Physical RAM.
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I hope Cleo's tits grow with every ascension
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you fags will buy anything
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So how long until some pixiv artist mocks Cleo's nori hair?
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>>157678945
So did Arondight destroyed Galatine, Memelvin?
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>>157679305
I hope her outfit becomes more Egyptian Queen and less Hot Topic cashier. All she needs is face piercings and ear gages to complete the look.
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Why do they keep hiring the Dangit Ronpaul artist?

Cleopatra doesn't even look slightly Egyptian. She looks like a pale-white mall goth I could see at my local city mall, and I'm in fucking Canada, not Egypt.
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>>157679362
5 minutes.
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>>157679494
I hope her outfit just gets worse and worse because she might have a "unique" fashion sense, fuck generic Egyptian attire.
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>>157679592
Her hair and head overall is not bad. Her outfit is suck.
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>>157679592
Honestly if she just had black hair I'd be pretty okay with this.
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>>157679673
Bitch needs to take a page from Uncle Man Diaz's style catalog.
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>>157679596
>Cleopatra
>Egyptian
Man, another ignorant retard in this thread.
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>>157679592
Could've just posted her picture without the cancer, it was bad enough.
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>>157679596
Kintoki doesn't look Ancient Japanese either. If she was the first servant to wear modern clothing I can understand being upset, but after Kintoki there is no reason to.
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>>157679115
I traded up in that sense, but it's important to realize you're not likely to roll any of the servants you have again anyway. If the other account had more things you want, go for it. If it doesn't, don't.
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>>157679267
This, I have 4GB RAM allocated to VMWare and it still lags sometimes
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>>157675125
Tail is T H I C C
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>>157679735

nah her hair sucks too, but surprisingly i like her face

the clothes are just an enigma

>>157679804

this would give it a better look yes
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>>157679832
Look faggot, she lives in Egypt, rules Egypt, she's Egyptian. I don't give a FUCK if she was technically a fucking Greek.

She still wouldn't be deathly pale and look like a mong.

>>157679886
Yeah, but unlike Cleo, Kintoki doesn't look fucking retarded.
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>>157679596
Why does Takeuchi keep hiring himself?

Medusa doesn't even look slightly Greek. She looks like an """""edgy""""" go-go dancer I could see at my local dance club, and I'm in fucking Canada, not ancient Greece.
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>new servant in hotpants
>looks like shit
Guess no one will ever beat Mary
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>>157679832
>Born 69 BC
>Alexandria, Egypt
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>>157679832
She was Greek, but her wardrobe should still be Egyptian, you fuck
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>>157680134
Who are you to say how a historical figure summoned into the modern age should dress?
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>>157680048
This is true. Kintoki looks stylish. Cleo just looks like some goth scene girl.
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>>157675281
Yeah, it actually helps buster np more than lb L/OZ
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>>157680059
Because Takeuchi is allowed to be an obnoxious faggot by proxy of seniority.

>>157680226
Somebody with taste.
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>>157680134
yeah, and Kintoki shouldn't dress like Terminator either
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>>157680297
>Somebody with taste.
Then display some taste.
I'm waiting.
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>>157680271
So does the 4 star LB kaleido CE. And it costs less.
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>>157680048
>Look faggot, she lives in Egypt, rules Egypt, she's Egyptian. I don't give a FUCK if she was technically a fucking Greek.
Type moon and DW don't give a FUCK about you too. Don't like it? Dont roll! Simple right?
Oops! Forgot you're a retard! Sumanai...
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>>157680097
Wait for the sprite and ascensions.
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>>157680427
Nobody will roll. This is the shittiest gacha since Void Shiki.
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>>157680536
I'm rolling for Vlad.
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>>157680536
I will roll.
For Vlad
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>>157680536
Mashu CE though.
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>>157680341
My taste was that Cleo looks like shit. If you disagree with that statement you prove you have zero taste.

>>157680427
>Rolling
>On THIS gacha
L M A O
M
A
O
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Is Ms. Cleo better than Jack?
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>>157680427
Spotted the rectally ravaged Danganronpatard
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>>157680536
>since Void Shiki
But Void Shiki is good for my Maaya Sakamoto team, faggot.
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>>157680536
gr8 b8 m8
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>>157680120
So it's like a Japanese that was born in US should look like a White American right?
Wow! Is it retarded's hour?
>>157680134
>>157680226
>>
>around the time of the announcement is people excited about Extra Vlad and Cleo
>come day time it's mostly people bitching
What went wrong?
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>>157680536
I'd whale for the Mashu CE alone.
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>>157680097
>they will NEVER give them good sprites with the two of them

I like them but because of them I'm glad I never rolled them.
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>>157680059
Why do people think Medusa's design is bad. It's blatant fanservice, but that's not a bad thing, and the outfit makes sense for her character.
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>>157680696
No but she should have a tan.
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>>157680584
>not rolling this Gacha
I'm rolling for it, for that glorious Lewd Mashu CE!
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>>157680697
Americans
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>>157680576
Even Vlad is disappointing. Bad art and piss poor stats. Such a waste.
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The thing is that unlike slav Gil and fashion Kintoki, Cleo just looks like trash. Fate has countless modernized servants but few of them look as bad as she does. That's the point.
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>>157680636
>AOE NP
no
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Fanart is slowly rolling in.
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>>157680775
>>they will NEVER give them good sprites with the two of them
Truly despair.
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>>157680804
She never worked outside unlike commoners, like many Businessmen of today FYI.
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>>157680873
I don't care, I like him.
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>>157680971
At least their third art is something unique.
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>>157680920
>>157680636
Is she going to beat Jack at her speciality? No. Or at least if she did the difference would be ridiculously tiny since Jack is basically as high as can be in that field. She might be just as good as that or even better but in some other way.
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>>157680697
The realization that both Servants have shit art and Cleo's design is repulsive modern hipster garbage?
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>Cleopatra
>Not a delicious brown waifu
You failed me, Komatsuzaki
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>>157680801
Medusa's design is one of the original FSN designs that have nothing to do with her at all. She really just looks like a stripper.
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>>157680987
Look nigga, you don't un-brown delicious brown girls because you want more hot topic, that's against the rules.
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>>157681080
No, it's
>>157680861
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Mountains out of molehills, guys
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>157680971

>tfw I have both versions plus Drake now

Real pirate trio here I go!
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>>157681103
>nigga
>muh delicious brown meme
Fuck off, reddit.
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>>157680697
Nah, this is the same shit as always. We sometimes forget how much bitching about each new design happens following each reveal. Until people get used to it, and suddenly they always liked it or whatever. A lot of designs in Fate are the same as Cleo's here, we've just gotten used to them and don't question them anymore.
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>>157680912
>people bitches she's not brown and Egyptian
>get's btfo
>the outfit was the point I swear!
D-D-D-Damage control!
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>>157681121
>Americans have actual taste

Yep sounds right
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>>157680378
LB Kaleido Ruby doesn't outdamage LB Limited/Over Zero on Buster NP
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Pictures of fat Caesar and Cleo having sex when?
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>>157681219
It was the worst with Ibaraki.
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>>157679079
>>157679243
Grand doesn't mean the rules of the universe change for you, memer.

According to you the beam should gave gone around the mantle and hit King Hassan anyways, but it didn't, because that's not how beams work in Nasuverse.
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>>157681238
You don't even have your own culture, why the fuck do you think you can talk about taste
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>>157681121
>Europeans have bad taste and like scene girl servants.

>>157681339
No culture > Your culture, Mohammad.
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Reminder that the reddit wiki has a Servant ranking now

http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:Servant_Rankings?useskin=oasis
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>>157679118
>the sword itself isn't buffed by Numeral
It is actually, just like the owner it shows the most of its power when the sun is at peak.
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ITT: Ronpatards pissed nobody likes their emo-goth Queen of the Nile
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>>157681424
Leave Ko-Gil and Helena alone you disgusting redditors.
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>>157681424
Am I supposed to care?
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So there is mail only event?
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>>157681072
I doubt her gameplay will be like jack since she got Buster NP with HP demerit. I thin it will revolve around sustaining herself with heal(Golden Rule(Body))???? and NP charge to use that.
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>>157681486
How long are you going to be throwing your little bitchfit though?
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>>157681231
Fuck off you retard, I never complained about her not being brown because I don't give two shits about KANGS. Don't lump my post together with the anons who wanted to jack off to brown people. My only post in this thread outside of the one you're replying to is the one that said her clothes looked like shit, much like Danganronpa art.
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>>157675237
>that long flowing hair
>those voluptuous maiden mammaries
>them hips
>them thighs
Hotter than Carmilla desu. I don't know why the old bat drags it around it it just makes her look bad by comparison.
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>>157681560
There's more than one person here doing it, though.
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>>157681424
>meme alter
>shit scat
>homo shota bait
Sasuga plebbit
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>>157681219
If she'll be god-tier in gameplay then everybody would love her. Just look at the Medb. Her design was good, but she is just shit in gameplay. And so nobody give a fuck about her.
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>>157681424
Where's Ozy? Am I blind?
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>>157681503
They can have their Gilshit, just leave Helena out of it.
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>>157681726
Medb is a fucking terrible character with terrible inspiration and her design is overrated by Amagamishitters.
Being trash gameplay-wise is only the icing on the shit cake.
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>>157681836
>>157681836
>>157681836
This desu
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>>157681424
Is this for Favorites or best for game play?
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>>157681424
>shit alter and scatshit
waifufags are cancer
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>>157681424
What are you talking about? the reddit wiki is cirnopedia. Just go to reddit and you'll see it.
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>>157679079
>The most the bullshit thing you can be
>he thinks Grands are above capital G God and they can shit on the rules established by him.
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>>157681321
Oh hey Melvin! Lancelot is unbeatable right?
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>>157681692
Cleofags are just pretending people accept this abomination

>b-but everybody lokes Danganronpa!
>mah American boogeyman
>Cleopatra was Greek so its fine that shes a white emo-goth bitch
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>>157681910
>ko-shit
>good
It's their waifu list, you can also tell because most of then are overrated trash.
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>>157681836
The fact that you don't like her doesn't make her a terrible character
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I'm rolling for Cleo. Am I a bad person?
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>>157682051
>>157681560
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>>157681836
Amagami style is cute, but her clothes, stats and character are god awful.
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>>157682058
Ah i see, explains why Ko-Gil and Helena are that high.
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>>157682064
Then what does?
Entertain me, Medbfag.
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>>157681984
So is it called cirnopedia because they're all bakas?
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>>157681836
>design is overrated by Amagamishitters.
You're just gay as hell
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zerk KIYO buff when?
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>>157681836
Jack is also a bad character with bad design but everybody loves her. Just because she is a top-tier assassin loli in a lewd suit.
>>
46 datamine servants left
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>>157681726
Just look at Ibaraki

She's nothing special in gameplay, but after a few weeks of bitching suddenly people liked her. There's always an onset of bitching at first, and as it goes along opinions level out.
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>>157681424
I thought reddit didn't like diddling kids.
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>>157682193
What a masterpiece.
Truly, there is no better artist. Maybe there is a deeper meaning behind this sameface?
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>>157682240
SIGURD
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>>157682209
>Jack
>Bad design
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>>157682114
NP interlude to change Ko-gils NP into EE when? I'm really tempted to grail him.
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>>157682276
Amagami art is like Takeuchi if Takeuchi copied a good face instead of a shit one.
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>>157682047
NR, Achilles, Cu Alter and Ozymandias can 100% beat him. Apo Vlad, Alcides, Scathach, Karna, Romulus, George and Benkei have a 50% chance of winning.

The rest get fucked unless Lancelot wants them to win.
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>>157681424

>They let perflat loli and titty mama that high up

fucking cynical if you ask me
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Oh yeah, baby.
Got my 2 tamamo and just got my Iri without hurry. I only spent 2 apples during this event.
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>>157682209
At least Jack looks like an Assassin and looks unique. Cleo doesn't look like any of the classes and identical to emo goth Danganronpa characters because all of them look like they go through a character creator swf with the same body and assets.
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So what skills should Cleo have?
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>>157682353
I don't disagree.

Except Medb looks shite.
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>>157682240
>46 left
>we're at around 110 Servants after well over a year and at least half of the new ones weren't even datamined back then

We got enough content for at least another 2 years.
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>>157682523
poison like Robin.
charm.
>>
Was anyone actually hyped for a Cleopatra announcement after camelot?
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>>157682493
>go through a character creator swf
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>>157682323
Yes, it's trash. At least her first sprite is good, but her original design is godawful. Nobody even really care abour her before FGO.
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>>157682356
But Melvin said he's unbeatable! He uses Arondight, the unbeatable sword, so Lancelot is unbeatable! Don't lie to me, you imposter! Lancelot is above world level!
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>>157682704
>implying people didn't like Jack the Stripper

Just because you never heard of her before fgo doesn't make it true, faggot.
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>>157682734
Please don't sarcastic Melvin shitpost or mention him while posting fish, thanks.
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>>157682156
I think she's pretty good as far as FGO characters go. She has her flaws and motivations and doesn't suck your dick just because you're the MC.

>inb4 cuck meme
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>>157682356
Almost anyone can beat him if they exploit his numerous personality flaws.
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>>157682704
>Nobody liked Jack before GO

That's factually wrong, though. Jack's design was half the reason anybody gave a shit about Apoc.
Next to Jeanne, Yugioh Shirou, and trapman.
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>Fatty banged this
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>>157682912
That's basically a non-answer.
Her entire character is being a slut queen that's a bitch and does bitchy things, and that's pretty much it.
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>>157682253
Also, people bitches about Okita until they saw her animations. I forget if people hated Dantes at first, but I believe they did. Then his animations and personality turned out so overdone that it was fun.
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>>157682989
>Fatty bagged and banged a 5 star whilst being a 3 star

What's stopping you getting out of your chair, /fgog/?
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>>157682704
Were you expecting that nobody who knew how wrong this is would be around?
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>>157682989
There better be doujin of those two in the near future
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>>157682734
Lancelot can't get past Kosmos, kill the Jabberwocky, and the Temple seals Arondight. Cu Alter is Origin tier so he is FTL and can speedblitz Lancelot.
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>>157682989
If given 10 minutes more he would have banged Nero too, don't understimate Caius
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>>157683059
Fatties have NO excuse.
You CAN bang your waifu, but she might be using you in the end.
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>>157683049
Dantes still looks like shit. Fuck Dangan's art.

Shit looks so jarring.
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>>157682340
Too similar to older Gil unfortunately.
Though a grailed Ko-Gil is really nifty, haven't maxed mine to 100 yet but his busters still hit really hard.
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>>157683206
Fuck you and your shit taste.
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>>157683206
Can I give you a hug for saying so much truth?
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>>157681424
>Helena is reddit approved
Fuck, gotta burn her now.
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>>157683268
How does it feel to wake up knowing you prefer the taste and smell of shit over anything else?
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>>157682761
I watched for every new vol.release of apocrypha since the begining, no one even liked her design or character back then. I found this hilarious how character's popularity can rise just from the scratch.
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>>157682989
Again, a fat guy banging a weird crazy Hot Topic cashier isn't too unbelievable.
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>>157683162
>implying you need to be fat for women to use you
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>>157683340
Ask your gay Nerobro over here,
>>157683275
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>>157683370
>no one

I guess her figure and merch and shit just popped out from nowhere.
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>>157683391
Thanks for the double (You)s. :^)
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>>157683387
It's more like the chances of them using you are way higher if you're a fat loser who thinks they finally got a girl.
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>>157682937
>FSG
They won't know unless it's too late. Saber Lancelot doesn't fuck around against strong opponents, if he is using Arondight he is going for the kill.
>>
>only male servants can be used in challenge quests

TOP KEK. Let's see how many waifufags can np5 Elizabeth now.
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>>157683609
Anon, please.
>>
I want the Danganronpafag to leave
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>>157683079
Fuck cosmos, he can EAM that! Jabberwocky? Cannot break Arondight so unbeatable! Ozy temple? EAM! Cu Alter? Can't beat the unbeatable Arondight!
Checkmate, Melvin wins.
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>>157683648
>>157681560
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>>157683609
s-slightly less useless?
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>>157683696
Yes he was referring to you. Leave and go discuss the new game somewhere else where people like that rehashed art style.
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>>157683716
I forgot I had this guy NP2'd and at level 90, time to actually use him for the first time.
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>>157683716
His time to shine
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>>157683794
This.
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>>157683794
>everyone that disagrees with me is one person
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>>157682253
>but after a few weeks of bitching suddenly people liked her
Because she started to get fanart that didn't look as absolutely fucking terrible as her ingame art.
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>>157683716
>people actually use his third sprite
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>>157683648
>>157683794
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>non stop shitposting since americans woke up


When will Russia nuke that shithole?
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>>157682989
>Cleo is out in that shitty fate mobage which only appeal is fanservice.
>She has the shittiest design of all Cleopatra ever seen, even some 3DPD are better.
>She's not even a delicious brown.
>Nero is more beautiful than her, making Septem even more legit.
This is why we can't have nice things. I can't wait for Augustus, Justinian and Hadrian saying Nero is the greatest emperor of all time, Roland being a deviant and a trap and El Cid being a saberface.
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>>157683661
>EAM against the weight of the world
He can put Arondight in front but that would only end in a stalemate or Lancelot crushed by the weight of a planet. Same for Jabberwocky, one can't kill the other so NR wins by erasing the Master.
>EAM against seal
How does that work?
>Cu Alter can't beat Arondight
But he can kill Lancelot before Lancelot can bring out Arondight.
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>>157683648

I just got here.
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>>157683884
You're the one constantly linking people to that one post because you assume everyone loves the art and any opinion that isn't yours must be the guy in your post. Go away.
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>>157683916
Hopefully soon.
Liberate us, please.
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>>157683916
>Russia
lmao
China is where it's at, m8.
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>>157683974
>I can't wait for Augustus, Justinian and Hadrian saying Nero is the greatest emperor of all time, Roland being a deviant and a trap and El Cid being a saberface.
Sign me up
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>>157683884
The irony.
>>
>>157683916
Soon, thank you Drumpf and Hillary.
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>>157684028
It's a pretty good post, and a very valid question.
When will you stop being a little bitch about a servant you dislike?
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>>157681424
So we can finally agree Jeanne Alter is a reddit Servant? Good.
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>>157683079
Cu Alter is only that strong with a Grail embedded in him. He can't be summoned that powerful.
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>>157684018
>But he can kill Lancelot before Lancelot can bring out Arondight
FSG. Cu stands no chance.
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>>157683916
They'll just emp their whole country.
>>
>still no male 5* Saber or Assassin
I'd stopped thinking about this until I started thinking about team composition for the male-only node. But seriously, what the hell is up with that?
>>
>>157684135
Except I'm not that guy at all and other people also voiced distaste for her. Now stop linking your own post you faggot.
>>
Just woke up.
Reminder not to reply to Americans.
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>>157684253
>>157681560
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>>157684235
>Saber
Arthur
>Assassin
Kirei
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>>157683643
There was that anon that burned all his silvers, there might be autistic waifufags who burned their male servants, you know. They got fucked.
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>>157684018
>But he can kill Lancelot before Lancelot can bring out Arondight.
He just EAM Cu himself since Melvin said he can.
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>>157684235
Don't forget only 1 4* male Assassin compared to 3 female, two of which you're guaranteed to have if you started playing before KnK.
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>>157684393
Not all of the challenge quests are male only.
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>>157684263
I wish filtering flags in /vg/ was possible.
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>>157684235
You don't need 5*s
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>>157683916
>anons crying out against Cleo's shit design
>m-mah American shitposter boogeymen
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>>157684195
That makes no sense. That does literally nothing to save him from being impaled.
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>>157684235
Obviously, players whale for female servants more than males.
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>>157684438
*4 female, I forgot Stheno existed.
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>>157684438
>1 4* male Assassin
I completely forgot Kerry existed
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>>157684524
Of course they're not needed, but it would be nice if there at least were any.
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Roman manages to look sexy without looking like a trashy slut. How does he manage it? Everyone else look like a cheap porn star.
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>>157684530
Literally every thread turns to shit when americans wake up.
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>>157684690
He looks like the villain from Kabaneri. Not a good thing.
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Suppose Extra Vlad would have to appear in this event. It's the most suited holiday for him, and there's too many Extra servants that need to be in the Extra event already for him to fit there. This was the time
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>Servants who can beat Lancelot
Cu Alter
Ozymandias
Nursery Rhyme
LoD Vlad
Buddha
Lion King

>Servants who are equal to Lancelot (50% chance of winning)
Karna
Achilles
Alcides
Scathach
George
Benkei
Romania Vlad (No LoD)
Altera
Minamoto no Raikou

>Servants that CAN'T beat Lancelot
Gilgamesh
Heracles
Gawain
Everyone else not mentioned

>Servants that can be defeated like pic related
Edmond Dantes
EMIYA Kiritsugu
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>>157684770
Not like early morning is any better when Melvin is going all out. Late night is always the best.
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>>157684804
I thought of Duke Venomania for some reason. Can't say I'm proud of it. They're not even that similar.
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>>157684474
It's stated right there all challenge quests are male only. This is what they meant about using male Servants more.
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>there are people that don't have Cu Alter or Waver
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Who else is paranoid enough not to exchange the leftover event mats for QP until the last day or until 2016 Halloween event starts?
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>>157680801
>the outfit makes sense for her character
t. secondary who knows nothing about Medusa's personality
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>>157685167
I don't recall her being a stripper in the VN anon.
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>>157685164
They already released the mats for the new event, they are different anon. Sorry.
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>Half the thread shitposting about powerlevels
>Other half shitposting about Cleo art
>No actual discussion about anything
Holy shit is this the end?
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What the fuck does Celo have to do with this? Where the fuck is Astolfo? I'm so sick of waifu fags and Lizfags
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>>157685430
I'm still paranoid that the shop might have something with the old ones, my paranoia is quite something.
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>>157685459
This isn't even the beginning.
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>>157685459
Wait and Hope
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>>157685459
Would you rather it be Facebook drama?
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>>157684857
I'd put at least half of the ones you call equal above Lancelot easily. They certainly have more than a 50% chance. And Edmond and Kerry aren't just fast, they're messing with time and your perception of it. Karna, Achilles (who Lancelot straight up can't harm), and Alcides have much more than Lancelot can handle. Karna is already more skilled than him, and he has far better defensive and offensive options. Siegfried is more skilled by virtue of being the most skilled swordsman, and Lancelot will be doing chip damage at best to him. Lancelot was stalemating Gil in Zero with the buff from being a berserker. Using Arondight takes away his best defense against Gil.

And that thing with the Flash is stupid anyway. They just didn't want him to win
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>finally second tamamo cat drop on last guerrila quest

It's over. I'm ready for Brave Liz.
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>>157685517
>unironically responding
fucking idiot
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>>157685459
As if you're any better, trapshitter.
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>>157685459
There is nothing else to discuss you retard, fate was always only about powerlevels and fanservice.
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>>157685459
This is an automated message:
We're all already dead, why are you still alive and posting?

End of the transmission.
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>>157685459
This is just a stepladder leading to hope, anon.
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>>157685514
At least that was fun
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>Greatest swordsman/woman alive.
>Only not world famous because she's disqualified from all tournaments because she won't use any sword but her own with a cute tiger decoration

Taiga is above Lancelot level. Just thought I'd share the good news.
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>>157685459
No, this is every Monday through Sunday
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>my only male assassin is kerry

Shit. Who should I ascend? Regend? Koutaro? Hassan?
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>>157685459
All threads from /fgog/ are power level bullshit and complaining about whatever new servant comes out. The only difference is whether the design complaints are justified or not.
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>>157685517
>responding
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>>157685654
I don't disagree.
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>>157685627
Fate has always been about saying powerlevels are pointless and that even the strongest can lose under the right circumstance.
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>>157685459
Dumb dog poster.
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>>157685803
Tell that to Shirou and Sieg.
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Why does Cleopatra look like shit.
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>>157685904
Because Dragon Grandpa man designed her.
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>mfw only shit male servants
Guess no brave liz for me. And I needed a Saber too, fug
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>>157685853
>Shirou beats Kirei, Gilgamesh and Herakles all because he sets up the right circumstances to get an advantage over them
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

And Sieg is the shitty, shitty exception that proves the rule.
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>>157685729
Cleo is a legit bad design though

Terrible art, terrible outfit

She makes Nightingale and Orion look gorgeous
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>>157685929
>Dragon Grandpa
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Would St. George be worth using as a tank for the ultra hard quest if I don't have someone with high crit weight like either Lancelots?
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>>157685853
That was literally his point, what the fuck anon
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>>157685517
>Karna, Achilles (who Lancelot straight up can't harm)
Arondight Overload bypasses Kavacha, Arondight is also a Divine Construct and can harm Achilles.
>Alcides have much more than Lancelot can handle
Alcides has the Pelt, Nine Lives and Goddess of War. Lancelot has KoH (can be used to get rid of the Pelt and Goddess of War), Arondight Overload and swordbeam (Divine Construct that can get past the Pelt).
>Karna is already more skilled than him
Except he is getting his ass kicked by Gawain without Numeral who is less skilled and powerful than Lancelot.
>Siegfried is more skilled by virtue of being the most skilled swordsman
So skilled that Gawain and an Archer like Arjuna have done a much better job than him. He has no EAM, he isn't the most skilled even in his own era.
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>>157685853
That's exactly what happened. They won against objectively stronger opponents through circumstance. Sieg won because Karna didn't want to let Amakusa have his way and Shirou won because Arturia was there for Caliburn to work/UBW hard counters GoB/Shirou was given Archer's arm and Illya distracted Herc for the final blow/Medusa was there to help him get to Arturia.
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>EMIYA, Cu and Sieg maxed
>Regend at 60 because of memes
God I fucking hope this works. I burned Iskandar's boipussy Rider when I got Drake.
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>>157685459

about what? we need more servant info and event details to discus about, right now it's shitting about what we have, the usual business
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>>157686090
>unironically responding
Stop it
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>>157686180
>burning Servants
I hope you fail like the idiot you are.
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>>157686052
This is the one time where the criticism of a new Servant is deserved
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>>157686090
>Alcides has the Pelt, Nine Lives, Goddess of War + 10 more NP's and + 1 EX NP
Fixed
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>>157685052
I don't have Waver and it sucks.

On the other hand I was one of the first people to get cu alter here.
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>>157686090
>responding to Giltard
Why would you waste your time like that?
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>>157686024
>>157686072
>>157686105
Shirou literally beat Heracles, Saber Alter and Gil though asspulls.

>Sieg is the shitty, shitty exception that proves the rule.
Not really he's just Shirou without the bad ends.
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>>157685853
>Tell that to Shirou and Sieg
>Shirou that defeated the strongest servant™ thanks to compatibility between his magic, support from an all-around great mage and her servant (UBW)
>Sieg that defeated the strongest servant on the Red Faction thanks to help by 4 different servants, one of who is the one was facing at the moment
>Not under the right circumstances
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>>157686256
In your own opinion, so you're still shitting up the thread with this drivel.
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>>157686090
>Except he is getting his ass kicked by Gawain
I thought that was a nerfed Karna that shouldn't be counted for these discussions, Melvin? Didn't you insist that every time someone brought up Karna admitting he isn't able to defeat Gilgamesh?
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>>157686258
Name the other 10 NPs and post their effects then. Alcides is going to be defeated by fucking Jack, whose NP is literally FSG lite.
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>>157686090
Karna is greater in skill than Siegfried and Siegfried is the most skilled swordsman. He doesn't have to be the most skilled in his own era to be the most skilled swordsman. There are other weapons.

Just because Arondight has an ability to bypass them doesn't mean he'll win. Karna took a direct hit to his heart and lived easily. He has more offensive capabilities than Lancelot and has a reach advantage as well. Siegfried isn't going to take shit from him either.

If you actually go an read that chapter of Foxtail in full, you'll see it was actually a very back and forth match with Gawain being forced to retreat at one point and Karna matching him blow for blow at another. His best hit on Karna resulted in his hand getting fucked.
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>People love male Servants with modern outfits like Dantes, Kintoki, Waver, or even Shuwhen's third sprite
>The moment a new female Servant with a modern outfit that isn't a bikini comes out, people bitch

/fgog/ really is full of nothing but homosexuals.
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>>157686282
>asspulls
God Hand is just trash. A+ NPs take at least 7 lives, A++ takes all live in one hit. It completely fucking worthless.
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>>157686438
A modern outfit that didn't look like a cobbled together Hot Topic reject would have been perfectly fine.
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>>157686282
You can call them asspulls, but they were still the circumstances of the battles. They disproved the relevance of powerlevels.
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>>157686427
>going to be defeated by Jack
Didn't know you were from the future
>FSG lite
>don't have to use CS to actually use it
I knew you were a shitposter though
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>>157686341
I wouldn't count Sieg. Sieg got plenty of powerups and still got the shit kicked out of him, and only "won" because Karna didn't take the perfect opportunity to kill him when it was offered to him.
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I don't think Sieg's winning is that much of an asspull. Sure his personality is dull and empty, but he still has beastly magic circuits.
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>>157686438
It all happened when the Americans woke up.
It never fails.
Watch them throw a tantrum when she doesn't show romantic interest in you.
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>>157686438
>Waver
>not modern

Ayy
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>>157686282
>Not really he's just Shirou without the bad ends.
Or the intense trauma that enabled his power in the first place.

Or the extreme mental issues that require a full route to work through and even then only in part.

Or the extremely rigorous training he put himself through to stay at peak fitness and to master his abilities.

Or enemies that want to kill him instead of literally trying to help him win.
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There's a thing I don't understand, if some heroes are different because the image of people have of them is influenced by movies and other media then why Cleo isn't your typical egyptian pharaoh from old movies?
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>>157686575

That's not what he said.

Sasuga, americans.
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>>157686625
Because Mr. Dangitronpaul didn't want to
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>>157686391
>I thought that was a nerfed Karna that shouldn't be counted
His stats are higher and his skill is untouched, Gilfag. So better stsrt talking about something that's actually nerfed if you want to make a point. BK? Swordbeam. Vasavi? Clash with Arondight. Kavacha? Arondight Overload nukes Karna from the inside and the M61 Vulcan can obliterate him from the outside.
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>>157686438
If she had a GOOD modern outfit then she'd be fine. But she doesn't.

Dantes, Kintoki, Waver, and Shuwen are /fa/ as fuck.
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>>157686542
>a cobbled together Hot Topic reject
That's only a bad thing if you're male. Scene girls are cute.
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>>157686625
Because she wants to dress that way.
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>>157686521
>A+ NPs take at least 7 lives, A++ takes all live in one hit
Nope. Heracles knew he could tank a full power Excalibur.
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I just realized the whole Fate franchise is shit
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>>157686714
I wouldn't mind if Waver was dressed in chinese wear. People don't bitch because he's fucking Waver and the outfit fits him. They liked when they added the fan.
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>>157686625
Don't think too much about it because if that logic was true it means all genderbend servants would be male.
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C-can we talk about swords?
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>>157686625
Because that artist is a retard
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>>157686823

Fuck off, Shirou.
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>>157686823
When I realized dark souls 3 had a sword that was similar to Astolfo's I used it for the rest of my first play through.
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>>157686625
It varies. It applies to some and not to others. Iskandar's reason for being Beefy McLargeHuge is that historians got the facts wrong. Same with Arturia. She'd be male if we went with the whole perception rule.
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>>157686625
>Nasuverse
>consistence and good writing

It's full of asspull and fanservice to pander. There wouldn't be no genderswaps if Nasu actually cared about the quality of his universe rules and followed his own established rules. Except for Arturia or 'alive' Servants summoned via some kind of plot stuff.
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>tfw I like this Cleopatra

I hope I roll her
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>>157686561
So
He won thanks to the right circumstances?
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>>157686823
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>>157686749
Berserker Kintoki and Shuwen are literally just wearing open shirts/coats to show of their chiseled abs and pecs. That's not /fa/, that's /fit/, and we all know that /fit/ is a bunch of faggots.
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>>157682209
Fuck you Jack is cute and she stole my heart.
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>>157686963
There's still a lot we don't know about her yet, I'm hoping her animations will be something crazy.
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>>157686569
Sieg winning is an absolute asspull. Karna literally let him win, as in he was in the position to kill him with one thrust of his spear, and he decided to let Sieg win instead, despite CCC saying that he couldn't let anyone win because he'd feel that it causes them to fail at life if they have victory handed to him, and he doesn't want to inflict that on anyone.

Higashide ignored the reasoning for Karna not killing himself the moment an enemy says please because he'd written himself into a corner and couldn't think of a way to have Sieg actually kill Karna.
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>>157686625
Because Fate was never true to that. See: Arturia being a woman while literally everyone thinks of King Arthur as a man.
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>>157686989
Why is it so bent and fucked up?
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>>157686942
See >>157686947

Arturia is the one genderswap that isn't shitty. There was a reason why she was a girl. Everyone else, except Da Vinci, who modified themselves, is a pandering piece of shit.
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>>157686438
If she was wearing a two-piece with a tie, my dick would be diamonds and my quartz would belong to the gacha. But unfortunately I don't really want her from a visual standpoint nor a game one.
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>>157675753
Same. Why is she DanganRonpa nu-goth?? As if ancient Egyptians didn't already have an amazing aesthetic to design from....
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>>157686989
>That pure gold mid-piece.
7/10 at best.
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>>157686741
>Vasavi? Clash with Arondight.
You do know Vasavi's purpose is to slay the divine, and it would fucking ruin Arondight in a clash, right?

>>157686741
>Arondight Overload nukes Karna from the inside and the M61 Vulcan can obliterate him from the outside.
Vlad, whom you previously listed as defeating Lancelot or likely doing so, tried that same thing with his strongest attack and it wasn't enough to kill Karna. Would Arondight fare any better? And the Vulcan wouldn't do anything to Karna for the same reason nothing else from the exterior can cause significant harm to him.
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>>157686989
Every time.
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>>157686741
BK takes a full spam of swordbeams to nullify, Arondight isn't even close to the same league as Vasavi either. Look what happened to Astolfo when he tried to block it with a shield that had a concept that directly opposed it. He got mangled. Lancelot will get run into the ground AT BEST. Vulcan will take multiple bullets to harm him and he won't always have access to high grade military weaponry either.
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>>157686963
Same, I'm really in the market for a good assassin and I feel like her outfit will get better as she's ascended
Of course this means everyone else in the thread but us will actually roll her
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>>157687002
Kintoki's accessories are cool as fuck and all of his clothes seem swanky. Shuwen's sweet coat is also cool.
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>>157686963
I'm going to try rolling for her too if her skills are interesting.

Good luck rolling her, anon
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>>157687102
Why is the oni so portable?
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>>157686435
>Karna is greater in skill than Siegfried
So? He is getting outskilled by Gawain
>Siegfried is the most skilled swordsman.
No EAM, not even the best of his own era. Also displayed less skill than both Gawain and Arjuna, getting his ass kicked while Karna was unable to hit Gawain unless Gawain let him and unable to damage Arjuna even at close combat until the very end.
>Just because Arondight has an ability to bypass them doesn't mean he'll win.
I don't think a near dead Karna can do shit, Lancelot can just walk up to him and KoH Vasavi by that point. And what will Achilles even do?
>Siegfried isn't going to take shit from him either.
Shot in the back or Arondight Anti Dragon. Meanwhile Siegfried has no way of damaging Lancelot.
>you'll see it was actually a very back and forth match
Karna didn't land a hit until Gawain let him. Gawain landed 2, and that's no Numeral Gawain who can't even hope to match Lancelot. Meanwhile against Siegfried, Karna landed like 78 vital spot hits, huge gap in skill.
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>>157687073
>>157687039
The only reason Arturia is okay is because she isn't being summoned as a heroic spirit. If she was under the same rules as everyone else instead of being pulled out of time, she'd likely be male because that's how she's perceived by the modern world. In this case, yes, it's justified.
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>>157686435
> Siegfried is the most skilled swordsman
What is this meme

Remove AoF and Kojiro would spank his dragon ass
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>>157686963
At first glance I fucking hated Cleopatra but I also hated Dantes at first too and he's probably my favorite GO original servant, so I'll give her a chance.
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>>157687393
I forgot about that excuse, you're right.
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>>157687393
She's always a weird Servant, so she's excused in general. Unlike fucking Nero, who should have Ceasar's design.
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>>157686963
Me to, I'm expecting some development with Caesar.
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>powerlevel shitposting
Goodbye /fgog/
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>>157683206
>talking shit about komaeda-senpai

Kill yourself naegi
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>>157686771
No, a shitty A+ NP is enough to take more than half of his lives. An A++ NP would instantly kill him.
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>>157679886
But Kintoki has an in-universe story behind why he dresses like yakuza. And it is cute and fits in with his personality of taking the Golden in "Golden boy" to the nth degree.

With Cleo, she is gonna need a very good personality in-universe to make up for her disappointing design.
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>>157687361
>I don't think a near dead Karna can do shit
We literally have a canon demonstration that a near dead Karna can and will shove Vasavi Shakti up your asshole and only being hooked up to Holy Grail life support will keep you from dying on the spot.

Do you even play this game, anon?
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>>157687606
>I know more than Nasu
Allright
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Cleo looks cool.
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>>157687576
You talk as if it wasn't this same shit for half a year at least.
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>>157686435
>>157687361
P-please leave siegfried out of this.
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>>157687393
No, that's not how it works. Cultural perception only goes so far. It can twist them for good or bad in some cases, but it never outright changes their core self.
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>>157687656
She's one of the better looking servants so far.
Lmaoing at the
>M-muh brown skin
fags
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>>157687361
He wasn't getting outskilled though. It was still back and forth. He took two hits and the first one didn't do jack shit to him. The second, which cost Gawain his hand, only left Karna looking a little worn down. That was without his armor. Even if you don't like it, it's a stated fact that Siegfried is the best. If Karna is more skilled, that means he's more skilled with his spear than any swordsmen with their swords.

>>157687475
Apo directly calls him the most skilled swordsman.
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>>157687393
>If she was under the same rules as everyone else instead of being pulled out of time, she'd likely be male because that's how she's perceived by the modern world

>Nero
>Okita
>Altera
>Mordred
>Nobunaga
>Jack the Ripper
>Shuten-douji
>Ibaraki-douji
>Ushiwakamaru
>Minamoto no Raikou
>Francis Drake
>Leonardo da Vinci
>Sanzou
>Frankenstein's Monster
>Gareth

Whatever you say, anon.
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>>157687635
It's Nasu's words, not mine.
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>>157687656
Agreed, she'll probably have a god tier sprite like Dantes too. Looking forward to her other ascensions.
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>>157687656
Agreed, can't wait to see her ascensions.
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>>157687674
It makes me sad to see Karna brought into this shit too. Siegfried and Karna are both good boys who don't deserve this.

t. a real Karnafag who doesn't bother with powerlevel arguments.
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>>157687798
>Apo
Fan-fiction. The only official Fate writers are Nasu and Urobuchi.
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>>157686554
>Saber Lancelot needs a CS to use FSG
Nice try shitposter.

>>157687108
>and it would fucking ruin Arondight in a clash, right?
You know Arondight takes 0 damage regardless of the attack and was made by Gaia who is above the shit god who created Vasavi, right?
>Vlad, whom you previously listed as defeating Lancelot
LoD and I had an entire army of Vampire Servants in mind.
>tried that same thing with his strongest attack and it wasn't enough to kill Karna
Yeah because he burned the stakes, good luck trying to burn a beam coming from the inside.
>And the Vulcan wouldn't do anything to Karna
Karna has C END with Vasavi and a Vulcan bullet can kill A END + Prana Armor in a single shot. Karna can reduce by 90% what would have overkilled him by 1.5, meaning around 10 bullets are more than enough to kill Karna.
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>>157687802
Nobunaga and Da vinci are male they just changed themselves into cute girls.
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>fags saying Cleo has shit clothes, throwing around Hot Topic like it's emo chic
You guys obviously never been in a fucking hot topic. And what's wrong with a gothic style? Rhyme is gothic lolita and nobody gives a shit
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>>157681303
I think you mean Minamoto.
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>>157687909
Well i guess it comes with the package, they're strong so people will argue about it. at least it's something to have a little pride in when it's civil.
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>>157687802
No one acted especially surprised about them, but even Kerry was shocked to see that Saber was a girl. And I said likely, not for certain.
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EAM is recognition in an era.
Siegfried is straight up called the most skillful of sword users. Whether recognized or not, outside of his era or not. Nobody is more skilled than Siegfried at using a sword. Period.
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>>157687798
Apo also says Siegfried is from the age of the gods and hahaha
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>>157688002
Just ignore.

Better question: what the hell will her animations be like? How will she attack?
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I just noticed that with Dragon Slayer A++ a lv100 Siegfried can hit for 45k on dragons, and for about 38k at lv80.
That's pretty nice compared to before, with NP2 or NP Interlude he can hit for 51k at lv80 and 60k at lv100.
Don't mind me, just wanted to break the Cleo/powerlevel shitposting
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>>157687909
Having a favorite who's strong sucks because you know he'll get dragged into arguments all the time. I just want cute art and more of the Apoc manga.
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>Hero's Shield - Invincibility (3 times) for whole team

So if I put this shit on my Cuzilla, I will get 5 times invuln in total?
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>>157688030
Kairi was pretty surprised about Mordred but just rolled with it, especially after Mordred got all pissy about being called a girl at all.
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>>157687802
>Leonardo da Vinci

Shapeshifted with his powers. He is biologically male. Also hinted to switch Guda(s) genders.
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>>157687939
Apo was approved by Nasu. If Apo is invalid than so is Foxtail.
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>>157688125
Shame that you can't stack all that with the Kayneth CE.
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>>157687802
The douji's are oni though, so I give them a demon magic pass. After all, if you could magic yourself to be the little girl you would
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>>157687139
>BK takes a full spam of swordbeams to nullify
Yeah, full spam of shitty A+ beams. We are talking about an A++ here, get real.
>Look what happened to Astolfo
>Astolfo
HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA
>a shield that had a concept that directly opposed it
You can destroy a world but you can't destroy something that takes absolutely no damage REGARDLESS of the attack.
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>>157688070
>How will she attack?
On her knees like other "businesswomen".
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>>157687964
>Yeah because he burned the stakes, good luck trying to burn a beam coming from the inside.

Gawain's tactic for blocking Brahmastra was literally to use the flames on his sword. If Gawain can do it, Karna can use PBF to lessen the impact of the sword, on top of the fact that Lancelot isn't going to cut deep in the slightest, and it didn't manage to kill Arash.
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>>157688002
But NR doesn't look edgy as hell nor does she have the same shit face everything the danga guy does has.
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>>157687590
Literally who is Naegi
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>>157688073
Huh, that's pretty solid. yeah if he's NP2 or gets his long-awaited NP interlude he might be pretty good at clearing waves of dragons since most AoE assassins don't have the skillset needed for AoE clearing.

>>157688121
How long til you think the Manga will get to the part where Karna and Siegfried fight? i'm curious how Akira will adapt it, the guy draws some pretty nice faces so i look forward to their expressions.
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>>157688070
Considering most limited 5*'s have nice animations, I'm gonna hold expectations high. As long as her sprite isn't garbage I'm gonna fall for this bait.
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>>157687964
>You know Arondight takes 0 damage regardless of the attack
Yeah, until it doesn't. Akhilleus Kosmos was impervious to damage too, until Vasavi obliterated it. Do you not understand how concepts work? Even if you don't, surely you can understand raw autism numbers: Arondight is A++, Vasavi Shakti is EX. It will win.

>meaning around 10 bullets are more than enough to kill Karna.
With its absurd charge-up time and Karna's speed I highly doubt that many bullets would even hit.
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>>157688259
>edgy as hell
It's fucking Fate, why does this of all things bother you?
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>>157687964
Karna has A END when the armor comes off, not C. See CCC for proof. Extella confirms.

>>157688242
It's still going to take more than one A++ beam if it took countless A+ beams to nullify it. And Astolfo has a thing for using gifted NPs.
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>>157688334
This isn't Fate edgy this is ugly-as-sin edgy.
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>>157688304
Should be next chapter, so in about nine days we should get to it. I'm really looking forward to it, especially seeing how Akira does the whole "78 hits" bit, along with what Brahmastra Kundala looks like when it's being charged up.
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>>157688242
>HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA
I know you're so busy shitposting that you've literally never looked at anything to do with Fate, but you do realize Astolfo is actually one of the strongest Servants in Apocrypha, right? He's indicative of how someone like Lancelot would stack up to those servants, in fact, considering Charlemagne's Peers are the comparable French equivalent to King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table.
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>>157687802
>>157688235
Ibaraki is also female in some versions of the myths, sometimes being something like Shuten's lover. They both were said to transform into women to trick people.
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>>157688443
Then suck it up.
No one says you have to roll for this servant.
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>>157687964
>C-rank NP from EAM
>can damage Karna
Are you even thinking Memelvin?
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>>157688465
I hope he doesn't fuck it up. I want that scene to be done justice because it's one of my favorites in the Apo LN. It's before everything went to shit.
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>>157688465
That's good news, we spent 3 or so chapters just introducing characters so it's about time we get to see some actual confrontation.
Hope it gets TL'd by BL within a week of release.
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>>157688536
Not that anon, but I'm not rolling for her. Doesn't mean people can't criticize her design. That's like saying there's no reason to criticize shit looking apartments just because you won't live in them, or criticizing shit food just because you can choose to not eat them.
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>>157688312
By the way, has someone translated what Cleo's NP is?
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>>157688536
Yeah. But I don't want this servant which means I'll get her.
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>>157687964
Vasavi is EX, Arondight is only A++.

Vasavi > Arondight in level of concept.
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>>157688521
>in fact, considering Charlemagne's Peers are the comparable French equivalent to King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table.
American education also Astolfo is shit in Nasuverse he's right stop bringing him into powerlevel discussion.
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>>157688747
>Talks about American education
>Can barely string together words but can't manage to use any of the grammatical tools that would allow the sentence to make sense

Where exactly are you from? You obviously learned English as a second language.
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>Apoc. Discussion.
Fuck Apoc.

>2nd favourite make servant kills himself because a gay fuccboi cries about another gay kid.
>Gay kid proceeds to corrupt my favourite Servant and fuck her.
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>>157687620
>and will shove Vasavi Shakti up your asshole
A weakened Vasavi that can't kill Cu Alter with B END? Hah, Arondight can easily block that. And Cu Alter only ate that because he got overconfident like a retard.

>hurr Grail
Grail increases your regen, but his END is the same. Even Shirou could kill Saber Alter who was also connected to the Grail. It took her 10 minutes to recover from Shirou too, and her END is above Cu Alter's.

>>157687798
>It was still back and forth
He took 2 direct hits to 1 that he only managed to get in because Gawain wanted. He got outskilled even if only slightly.
>Even if you don't like it, it's a stated fact that Siegfried is the best
Even if you don't like it, it's a stated fact that Lancelot is the greatest Knight of all times (including Siegshit), and has skill that is capable of doing what's impossible for miracle and skill. And it's also a fact that Gawain wasn't damaged by Karna while Siegshit got 78 hits to his vital spots and was unable to do what was deemed impossible (completely block Karna attacks).

Plus one can't be the most skilled without EAM.
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>>157688832
Evidence suggests somewhere in South America. Possibly Mexico as well.
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So we've talked about what servants would make Good mothers, but what servants would make good fathers?
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>>157688597
That scene with Vlad and the magi gave me hope. I'm sure Akira can do it justice, what I'm really hoping for is for Karna to show his first actual expression, and to see if Akira can convey that for a moment Siegfried was scared shitless.

>>157688632
It usually gets TL'd quickly, it's the typesetting that takes a while. In any case, it's the early chapters, so we'll know what's going on by virtue of the fact that we already read Apoc. It'd be nice if they put more scenes in that weren't in the book to give more time to characters that got neglected though, they've done that already with the Red Masters so hopefully they'll continue that way.
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>>157680536
I need the LIZ CE
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>>157688890
>and has skill that is capable of doing what's impossible for miracle and skill
But can he cut a swallow in flight?
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>>157688890
Siegfried isn't a knight retard.
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>>157688890
>Literally every word of this post
Holy shit, you're as dumb as they say. Fuck it, I'm out. You can gloat about "winning" if you want but I'm not putting up with this concentrated stupid one second longer.
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>>157688925
Redman would be a great dad.
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>>157688925
Romulus would make a pretty rad-dad.
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>>157689074
Red man is a mom at heart, he's disqualified
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>>157688890
Karna grazed him with it and Cu almost died. The grail kept him alive.

And Siegfried isn't a knight. He's canon the most skilled swordsman and Karna is more skilled.

And EAM only means you're believed to be unrivaled in skill. If someone thinks someone rivals you in skill, you can't get it. That's literally how EAM works. You can't get it if you have a rival. There were warrior gods in Siegfried's age.
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>>157688253
>Gawain's tactic for blocking Brahmastra was literally to use the flames on his sword.
It was to block it by pushing it to the side actually, so he needed more power, there are no flames around Galarine at any point in that fight. Plus it's a nerfed A+ vs A++ at full power, it can't even be compared, even if you were right it wouldn't mitigate enough.

>it didn't manage to kill Arash.
Who as EX END and reduced damage too. Karna is going to take it with C END and no damage reduction. He is fucked.
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>>157689186
I dunno, anon. Have you ever seen a mom this smug?
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>>157688925
You're looking at father of the year material here.
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>>157688932
My fear is that he won't follow it directly or adapt it properly and then people will run wild with it and say that one or the other yadda yadda yadda. More adaptations make more room for absurd and pointless powerlevel posting.
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>>157688890
Why are you bringing EAM? When Mama tits actually had the same rank as Memelot? Not including overall better stats while mama doesn't even have Arondight-like weapon to increase her stats?
Well looks like Mama Tits can easily kill Memelot too. Go put her at 100% win against Memelot.
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>>157688925
Oji-san best dad
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>Melvin never responded to the declaration of Taiga>Lancelot
He can't refute it.
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>>157689485
No one can
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>>157689397
>killed his son for not speaking up
>father of the year
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>>157689397
DELETE THIS
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>>157689589
Father of the decade!
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>>157689334
Arash only has A END. And Karna's END is A without his armor. His END goes up when he doesn't have his armor.

citation: stat page in CCC and Extella.
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>>157689589
he deserved it for being a little bitch
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>>157688925
Gil loves kids but I bet he would be a strict dad.
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>>157688403
>Karna has A END when the armor comes off
He will fight Lancelot without Armor? Dead in 1 shot then.

>>157688724
Vasavi is EX and it couldn't beat A+ Kosmos. A++ Enkidu Enuma Elish cancelled out Gilgamesh EX Enuma Elish.

>>157688319
>Akhilleus Kosmos was impervious to damage too
Not it wasn't. A world has a fixed level of durability. Arondight has infinite durability.
>Arondight is A++, Vasavi Shakti is EX. It will win.
It lost against Kosmos which has weaker concept and rank. A++ Enkidu Enuma Elish cancelled out Gilgamesh EX Enuma Elish. Also Lord Camelot vs Excalibur Morgan.
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cleo skills?
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>>157689771
It didn't lose against Kosmos though. It fucking mangled Astolfo even though he had the shield.
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>>157689770
Wasn't there something that said that Rin and Gilgamesh would have great chemistry? Shame we never got to see anything like that.
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>>157689816
Shitpost Cassus Belli: EX
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>>157688582
>Kavacha works based on rank
lol Karnatards don't even know how Karna works.

>>157688319
>Karna's speed
A AGI like Zero Arturia who couldn't dodge at mid range.
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What does it mean?
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>>157689771
>It lost against Kosmos which has weaker concept and rank.
It "lost" in the sense that it didn't vaporize its target, it only completely destroyed the shield and NEARLY killed its target. That's only a victory on paper, and if Karna wasn't rooting for Black team to win nothing would stop him from killing the weakened Astolfo.

>>157689771
>A++ Enkidu Enuma Elish cancelled out Gilgamesh EX Enuma Elish. Also Lord Camelot vs Excalibur Morgan
Both are cases of compatibility. Enkidu's Enuma Elish is defensive and uniquely suited to countering Gilgamesh's version. And Lord Chaldea's ability was stated to be "won't break as long as its wielder has the will to sustain it." That's a power that circumvented typical powerlevels entirely, unlike Arondight which puts a defined, albeit ludicrously high number to its endurance.
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>>157689984
Weren't almost all of Arturia's stats a rank down or so thanks to the mental shock of having to fight Lancelot and feeling like the failure of a king she is?
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>>157688521
>Astolfo is actually one of the strongest Servants in Apocrypha
HAHAAHAHAHAHAA, oh god this guy is as stupid as the Medusafag.

>>157688403
>It's still going to take more than one A++ beam if it took countless A+ beams to nullify it.
The difference between A+ and A++ is the difference between Excalibur and Bellerophon/Gordius Wheel. It can't even be compared how far apart they are.
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>>157690156
In the last fight she was too shocked to fight, yes, but when Lancelot had the Vulcan that wasn't true. Though it's important to mention that Arturia actually dodged multiple volleys of the Vulcan before that point and the narration is suspect for it. It's the same narration, after all, that states Lancelot would definitely be killed by Gil's 32 NP barrage if Tokiomi didn't recall him. We never see how that would actually play out because Gilgamesh knocks Lancelot out of the fight before he can fire at Arturia at that close range.
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Just stop replying to Miguel.
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>>157689321
>and Cu almost died
Yeah, at B END. what about it?
>The grail kept him alive.
That's not how the Grail works, see Shirou vs Saber Alter.
>And Siegfried isn't a knight
>Saber
lol
>He's canon the most skilled swordsman
He is canon less skilled than Gawain and Arjuna and isn't the most skilled of his own era.
>There were warrior gods in Siegfried's age.
Irrelevant, didn't you say Siegfried is the most skilled? Orion is more skilled than Artemis.
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>>157690273
>HAHAAHAHAHAHAA, oh god this guy is as stupid as the Medusafag.
Stronger than:

>Avicebron
>Atlanta
>Jack
>Arguably Jeanne
>Spartacus
>Frankenstein's Waifu
>Semiramis disregarding Hanging Gardens
>Shakespeare
He isn't tippety-top tier but he's still very good. His only real downside is his forgetfulness, and he's only outclassed by literal gamebreakers such as Karna and Achilles
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>5 star Assassin Cleopatra
>5 star
>Assassin
>Cleopatra
What
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>>157690591
I said most skilled SWORDSMAN. Not all gods are swordsmen.
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>>157690684
She's a five star because she needs to be a five star to bait whales and she's an assassin because fuck it.
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>>157689464
Mama is as skilled as Lancelot, there is no argument there. What's her firepower? Some shit tier clones, so she is as skilled but weaker in power.

>>157689063
>I can't argue so I will pretend you are retarded
You are not the first one in history to ever pull that one.
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>>157690128
A schedule of main quest showings or something like that
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>>157690684
In the fact that according to legend she killed herself via asp bite, she is more qualified to be an Assassin than a lot of the Assassins we have. Like one of the only actual assassins we have is most famous for failing to actually assassinate his target.
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>>157690591
>He is canon less skilled than Gawain and Arjuna and isn't the most skilled of his own era.
>Arjuna
>Swordsman
Source he's less skilled than Gawain?
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>>157690774
I can understand the logic behind the 5 star, but Assassin came out of fucking nowhere.
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>>157689771
>Karna has A endurance
Funny you said C rank before, obviously you don't even know jack shit, Memelvin, but then he won't need to fight Karna since he's already dead from VS.
>muh Arondight is unbeatable
>>157676816 is calling Melvin ;^)
>using Enkidu Gil Enuma Elish clash example
Man, how desperate, I thought you hate Gil and he can't measure up to Memelot? Oh and Enkidu's EE is meant to cancel out Gil's EE on the conceptual level, rank doesn't even matter. You don't even know that?
>fixed durability while Arondight is infinite
So Arondight is conceptually stronger than Gaia now? Nice Melvin!
>Lord Camelot vs Ex Morgan
Another pleb info you don't know Melvin, but all Defensive NPs always are worth 1 rank higher than their written rank against Offensive NPs. So Lord "Chaldeas" B+ is more than capable of blocking Arondight and Sealed Excalibur. Which was the reason Lord Camelot B++ can block EX rank Rhon Beam.
Also applies to AoF and Godhand
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>>157690591
This is a whole grail, not just grail mud. He has a whole fountain of near infinite mana inside of himself. He almost died with his ungodly healing factor from a grazing hit.
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>>157690845
Well what else was she gonna be? They had to put her in something.
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>>157690591
"Greatest of all the Knights" means
>Knights of Camelot/The Round Table
You gigantic retard.
Siegfried is summoned as Saber, yes. Saber is one of three of the "Knight classes" in the Grail War, yes, but not every Saber is a knight, you big, gigantic, dumb fuck.
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>>157690684
>her only assassination was killing herself
lmao, guess Kurt Cobain is the next 5* Assassin then
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>>157689675
>Arash only has A END
Robust Body gives him a rank up in STR, meaning EX.

Yeah, but is he going to fight without Kavacha? If he is he dies in 1 shot.
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>>157690963
>in 1 shot

He'll probably never get hit then.
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>>157690806
>>157690941
I guess I can understand that being the reason, but it still feels like a stretch on DW's part. By that logic, couldn't Nero also be summoned as an Assassin for killing herself? Rider would have been an easier class to pull off, since she had that naval fleet.
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>>157690618
All his NPs are fucking shit, idiot. He can at best only be more useful than Avicebron and Jack. First Folio can fuck the shit out of many Servants and Semiramis will have Gardens. Blasted Tree did more than Astolfo could ever do.
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F/Z
>Heed my words. My will creates your body, and your sword creates my destiny. If you head the Grail’s call, and obey my will and reason, then answer my summoning.
>I hereby swear, that I shall be all the good in the world. That I shall defeat all evil in the world.
>But let thine eyes be clouded with the fog of turmoil and chaos. Thou, who art trapped in a cage of madness. And I the summoner, who holds thy chains!
>Seventh Heaven clad in the great words of power, come forth from the circle of binding, Guardian of Scales!

>powerful and very evocative summoning spell that really capture the essence of summoning a powerful familiar while still acknowledging their own personal wills

Fate/Shit
>I am the bone of my sword
>Steel is my body and fire is my blood
>I have created over a thousand blades
>Unknown to Death,
>Nor known to Life.
>Have withstood pain to create many weapons
>Yet, those hands will never hold anything
>So as I pray, unlimited blade works.

>Sentences that barely have meaning, broken as fuck chuuni English, awkward metaphors, personal description that nobody gives a shit about, etc.

Why is Nasu such a hack and why is Fate/Zero so much better? Why do you still like the essence of Japanese chuuni bad writing with the most contrived plot in the world, autistic and unrelatable characters and deus ex machina galore? Why are you such fucking manchildren? You should all just die already.
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Why is Japan so racist that they can't bother making one of the most widely known black historical figures her actual color?
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>>157690845
If Mata Hari can be an Assassin for being a spy and a seductress, then Cleo can be an Assassin.
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>>157690781
>mama can't beat Lancelot cuz lack muh firepower
5 mamatits with EAM, all with NPs vs 1 Memelot with EAM and Arondight? Another time Memelot will kick the bucket.
;^)
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>>157691227
Hanging Gardens of Babylon are above world level
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>>157691293
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>>157691293
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>>157691313
She's already an emogoth Hot Topic cashier, she might as well be an Assassin too.
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>>157690618
>Avicebron
Not with Adam around
>Jeanne
HAHAHA, no
>Spartacus
Are you ok?
>Fran
Blasted Tree forces a draw at worst

The rest is arguable
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>>157691305
Almost got me senpai
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>>157691293
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>>157690132
Kosmos world was unharmed and Astolfo is a fucking meme.

>>157690132
>Both are cases of compatibility
And Arondight has compatibility against any kind of attack. Literally nothing can damage it.

>won't break as long as its wielder has the will to sustain it." That's a power that circumvented typical powerlevels entirely, unlike Arondight which puts a defined, albeit ludicrously high number to its endurance.
Arondight is literally "won't be damaged regardless of whatever attack it is". That's better than Lord Chaldeas.
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I love it. The first 3* event CE I'm gonna keep.
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>>157690963
Or it's A with the rank up, just how Lancelot's page displays the changes that Protection of Faeries gives him.
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I never met an emo or a goth who wore gold jewelry.
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>>157691348
>>157691451
>>157691527
>facts I don't like are just bait, please get off my comfort zone and let me enjoy absolute shit
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>>157690156
>Weren't almost all of Arturia's stats a rank down or so thanks to the mental shock of having to fight Lancelot
No, she is stated to be defending with all her strength.

>>157690345
>It's the same narration, after all, that states Lancelot would definitely be killed by Gil's 32 NP barrage if Tokiomi didn't recall him
Same narration that says Gilgamesh can't win unless the other Servants deal with Lancelot first. And in the Vulcan case it was actually Saber thoughts, she literally was going to try and see if she could Excalibur before Lancelot fired.
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>>157691741
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>>157691293
F/Z evocation is not even in english in the LN and that comes from F/SN, aside from the lines specific to Berserker servants.
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>>157690834
Foxtail, Karna can't hit Gawain unless Gawain lets him, Siegshit gets hit in hits vital spots 78 times.

>>157690756
If he is the most skilled he should get EAM, but he didn't.
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>>157691741
Don't shitpost about quality with Valvrave reaction images, it really undermines any point you try to make.
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>>157691741
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>>157691890
>calling a bait
Step up, senpai. Don't be a newfag.
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>>157691553
>Kosmos world was unharmed
Oh, so Vasavi Shakti just passed through one side and out the other unimpeded like Gae Bolg?
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>>157690890
>This is a whole grail
Saber Alter is connected to Sakura and is stated to have near limitless supply too, combined with higher END.
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>>157691995
That's one of the absolute best Fate bait pic I've seen! Fukken Saved!
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Apocrypha Power Ranking

>LOD Vlad
>Karna
>Adam
>Achilles
>Sieg with all the bullshit he got
>Romania Vlad
>Siegfried
>Chiron
>Mordred
>Semiramis inside Gardens
>Spartacus
>Jeanne
>Fran
>Amakusa
>Atalanta
>Jack
>Astolfo
>Semi outside gardens
>Avicebron
>Shakes
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>>157691928
Their fight in Foxtail isn't even over yet. It's lasted all of a minute so far.

And EAM is based on people perceiving you to be unrivaled in skill. If you have a rival, you can't have it. He's still the most skilled SWORDSMAN, but he isn't the most skilled with other weapons. Do you not know how EAM works?
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>>157692231
My personal Apocrypha ranking:
Jeanne's pretty cute.

And done.
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Who /humikai/ here
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>>157692307
I won't be buying the new EO game. Not enough lolis.
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>>157692130
And this is also a different grail. Cu having an incredibly high healing factor should tip you off that not all Alters are the same. Arturia took much longer to heal from her wounds in the Sparks Liner High end.
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>>157692307
Himukai*
I'm drunk.
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>>157692367
>not buying it for trap necromancer
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>>157690883
>Funny you said C rank before
Because he has C with Kavacha, retard.
>Oh and Enkidu's EE is meant to cancel out Gil's EE on the conceptual level
Arondight cancels out any attack at a conceptual level too.
>So Arondight is conceptually stronger than Gaia now?
It was created by Gaia, aren't nuclear bombs stronger than humans?
>but all Defensive NPs always are worth 1 rank higher than their written rank against Offensive NPs
Nice headcanon but that's nowhere stated, and that would make Arondight EX.
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>>157692112
Why fanficfag didn't post Emiya vs Lancelot already?
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>>157692171
Thanks bro, it's probably been sitting unused on my folder for more than a year
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I just want to point out that Cleo will likely be our first proper QQABB Assassin.
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>>157692517
He said it was causing too much shitposting
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>>157690927
>Knight class
>not a knight
lol
>Greatest of all the Knights
Exact quote is "a hero known as the greatest knight". No mention of the Meme Table.
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>>157692479
Lolis or nothing.
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>>157692231
LoD Vlad being above Karna is pretty dumb when you consider that their plan relied on them waiting for sunlight to weaken him when there was a walking, talking ray of sunshine with them right there. His flames and armor should have weakened Vlad even more so, but if Vlad had been easy to kill then we wouldn't have had the big reveal about Shirou, and Higashide is too shit a writer to follow his own logic.
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>>157692517
He thinks Lancelot wins since he thinks he wins against Gil, he ignores that trying to KoH a Broken Phantasm would blow up Lancelot
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>>157691928
>points to people that says foxtail and Apoc Karna is different and incomparable.
>does the same shit
It's like your not being a hypocrite here, Memelvin, use your brain.
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>>157692307

Teach is best girl
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Do you think Higashide and Sakurai realize how shitty their writing is?
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>>157692775
Do you think Nasu realizes it about his own writing?
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>>157692836
What about Butcher.
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>>157692231
Basing powerlevels off of the Dracula fight doesn't take into account that they're all inside on a giant floating fortress and unlikely to use NPs. One on one would greatly change things. Berserker Vlad isn't ultra strong or anything.
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>>157692626
Gilgamesh is a Knight, Cu's a knight, True Archer is a Knight, Scathach is a knight, the Lion King is a knight.
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>>157692775

Maybe they do, but since they're getting paid anyway they just don't care.
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Narita>=Urobutcher>>Nasu>Sakurai>=Higashide
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I'm loving Cleo's design but I already have Jack. Surely it is okay to replace her in my support list right? There is tons of Jack after all.
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>>157692626
No, he's not a knight. If you're calling Siegfried a knight, you are literally retarded. I suppose you think Caesar was a knight too. Emiya is also a knight? What about Robin Hood who literally said that he wishes he could be like some badass knight before he dies?
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>>157692932
>implying you'll get her
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>>157684235
Musashi and/or Proto Arthur will probably be the 5* Sabers.
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>>157691679
>just how Lancelot's page displays the changes that Protection of Faeries gives him
But Lancelot doesn't show his luck with PoF active, idiot.

>>157692274
>Their fight in Foxtail isn't even over yet.
Siegshit got fucked that bad at the start of the fight.
>If you have a rival, you can't have it.
I thought you said he was the most skilled, meaning no rival.
>but he isn't the most skilled with other weapons
Isn't Tristan better than Lancelot or at least equal with a bow?
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>>157692932

wow how badly can the bait escalate with this queen?
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>>157692480
>Arondight
>defense focused NP
Oh Melvin, look at yourself. Are you to feeling shit yet?
Oh and you agree Arondight is infinitely more durable and stronger than the world? Amirite?
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>>157692626
>>Knight class
>>not a knight

>Robin
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>>157692626
So Zerksalot isn't a knight anymore and the statement is invalid. That explains why Diarmuid can beat him.
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>>157692903
Don't forget that Nero, Emiya, Kiyohime and Tamomo are knights too.
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>>157692416
>Cu having an incredibly high healing factor should tip you off that not all Alters are the same
Saber Alter is stated to have an absurd rate of regeneration. Karna's attack simply wasn't that strong.
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>>157692930
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>>157692880
I'd like to read an omake or something where they were outside and Karna nukes Vlad in seconds.
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>>157693002
Sieg didn't even get fucked though. He was taking hits so that he could advance on Karna who had a reach advantage. He knew he'd be able to whether the hits, but he didn't expect Karna to take such pitiful damage from him either.

And you're being a nuisance. I have repeated, time and time again, that he is the most skilled AS A SWORDSMAN. That means someone else in his era, say a spearman or a hammer wielder, can be close to him in skill.

And Tristan doesn't even use a bow, he uses a harp that cuts with sound. He's noted as having a lot of natural talent, but he's not as skilled as Lancelot.
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>>157692693
>trying to KoH a Broken Phantasm would blow up Lancelot
Nice headcanon but Lancelot can simply stop it from blowing up. It's his NP now and it's up to him to decide if it blows up or not.
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Since I have a gambling problem, no five star assassin, and 300 quartz I'll probably roll.
But not if she needs hearts.
Half my fucking other servants need hearts for ascensions.
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>>157693002
Melvin
Tristan is a Bow main and not known to be a user of all weapons, Lancelot is Sword main and was known to be good at other weapons, that's basic, meaning that there's no rivalry between them.
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>>157693139
Cu is literally able to heal himself from the damage he takes using Gouging Spear of Carnage as soon as he takes it. He's not relying only on the Grail's regeneration, which is already immense, he's also buffing it with runes. He's got more regeneration going for him than Saber Alter ever did.
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>>157692693
Melvin and the fanficfag are different people. The fanficfag actually argued with the original jetfag a couple of times.
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>>157693356
Is there any canonical instance of a wielder halting the broken phantasm process once it's started? I don't think there is.
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>>157693139
It was though. It grazed him and almost killed him. Cu retreated after he took what would've killed most other servants.

>>157693356
He would have to grab it to claim ownership. Good luck with doing that as the BP is blowing up before he can grip it.
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>>157693302
>He's noted as having a lot of natural talent, but he's not as skilled as Lancelot.
Where was it stated? That would be bullshit and bad writing since Tristan beat Lancelot and stalemated Galahad in La Morte.
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>>157692971
>What about Robin Hood who literally said that he wishes he could be like some badass knight before he dies?
What he didn't realize is that he was.
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>>157693005
>taste is bait now
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>>157693356
Whatever you say man
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Nasu is a hack
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>>157693034
Oh Melvin! Look at this! A simple statement for you!
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>feeding swimsuit scat
>super success
>lets memeroll one ticket
>silver assassin card turns gold

Is she good?
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> Cleopatra BTFOs semifags, snekfags, and muh accuracy fags all at once
> Brave Liz's NP might be ST
> Raddest Vlad
> Himukai CE you can get FOR FREE
> Every CE looks nice
> Possibly challenging content
> The shop with plumes, tears, and hearts
Best event? Best event.
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>>157693643
I'm so sorry.
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>Caesar tapped this
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>>157693006
>Oh and you agree Arondight is infinitely more durable and stronger than the world?
Yes. What, are you going to argue Kosmos is more durable than Lord Chaldeas? Because Lord Chaldeas is at best as durable as Arondight.
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>>157693490
It's in Camelot. Your group calls Tristan possibly the most naturally talented servant they had met so far in Camelot.
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>>157690684
Assassin to fit her edgy emo goth looks, obviously.
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Vlad's armor is pretty rad
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>>157693653

Thank Liz.

Aslo, you forgot Tamamo and Gozenfags.
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So when the fuck does the event start? Why do they always advertise it before it starts?
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>Lancer Vlad's skills
>Protection of the Faith A+++: debuff resistance/massive heal
>Battle Continuation A: guts
>Seraphic Monstrosity A: stars/turn

They might give him mad enhancement C/D because of protection of the faith?
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>>157693653
I can't wait.
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>>157693518
>>157693520

Nice coordinated smug
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>>157693404
>Cu is literally able to heal himself from the damage he takes using Gouging Spear of Carnage as soon as he takes it.
And that's stated to be the work of Runes, not the Grail.

>>157693479
>Cu retreated after he took what would've killed most other servants.
You mean what would have killed Servants with C END and below.
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>>157693847
>Halloween Comeback! Mega Huge Pumpkin Village from 10/19 - 11/2
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>>157693709
Cute.
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>>157693653
>muh accuracy fags all at once
No I wasn't BTFO. I am pretty sure ancient pharaoh didn't wear hot pants. Even when she went to Rome with Caesar.
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>>157693643
Best 4star assassin
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>>157693909
Thank you for ignoring the rest of my post where I pointed out that Cu was using runes too.
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>>157693862
They might give Protection of the Faith an extra effect. There are a few A+ or higher skills that get extra effects, like Self-Modification, Transformation, Innocent Monster, and arguably Monstrous Strength.

And they can always replace one of those skills with a new one for gameplay purposes.
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>>157693949
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>>157693653
>Every CE looks nice
This is the best part. They all look great, specially Da Vinci's and Mata Hari's.
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>>157693643
I hope you have some hearts, nerd.
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>>157693425
EMIYA deliberately taking higher intervals to pump more prana into the weapons

>>157693479
>He would have to grab it to claim ownership. Good luck with doing that as the BP is blowing up before he can grip it.
Yeah I bet that's why they blow up on EMIYA's face. Oh wait that has never happened.
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>>157692291
Casting Atlanta aside is pretty evil.
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>this entire thread
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>>157691293
Shit, am I late to the party?
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>>157693653
> Himukai CE
Which one
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I'm surprised they don't do more random limited Servant rate ups. I wonder if having too many things to roll somehow makes people want to spend less or something.
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>>157693745
So Arondight is stronger than Gaia then? Heh Melvin? Really Nice! Oh and that means Lord Camelot is stronger than Arondight since Lord Chaldeas is equal to Arondight :^)
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Mai waifu can beat all your servants
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>>157694245
Fuck off Misora.
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Who /don'tcareaboutpowerlevel/ here? I just want to have adventures with my servants
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>>157693302
>Sieg didn't even get fucked though.
Yeah without the armor he would have died 78 times over.
>He was taking hits so that he could advance on Karna who had a reach advantage.
Gawain didn't need to do that.
>that he is the most skilled
Where is his EAM?
>can be close to him in skill.
Close is not equal, Tristan is at least as good as Lancelot with a bow.
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>>157693862
Protection of the Faith is probably going to be some kind of huge buff like debuff resist, defense, and regen/turn. I'd love if he had a buster buff tacked onto something, but he's clearly going to be a stalling lancer like FSN Cu.

I wouldn't put it past them to give him a very low rank of Mad Enhancement, just because of how it worked in Fate/Extra. If it's any consolation, his bond CE is definitely going to give him some kind of damage reflection, since that's what he fucking spammed in his fight in Extra.
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>>157692626
>No mention of the Meme Table.
Because when you mention "Lancelot and the other Knights,"
"Arthur and his Knights,"
"Galahad, and his fellow Knights,"
You don't HAVE to mention the meme table because it's a given that it means "And the other fuckin' dudes that he rolls with."

>>157693517
>A thief
>A Knight
kek
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>>157694427
>stalling lancer like FSN Cu
4* Cu would be pretty rad
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>>157694390
Not him
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>>157694330
She couldn't even beat rape.
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>>157694330
Since Shiki can killer and Shiki is a superior version of Shiki I would argue that servant Shiki should be able to kill her
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>>157694438
>A thief
>A Knight

>Robin Hood
>Man who stayed loyal to his true king even after the throne was usurped, who went out of his way to disrupt the corrupt operations of prince John so that England wouldn't be left in total ruin when Richard the Lionhearted returned
>not a knight
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>>157694325
>So Arondight is stronger than Gaia then?
I don't know, are you arguing humans are stronger than drones and nuclear bombs?
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Jackie doujin out.

https://exhentai.org/g/986258/80023a0e06/
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>>157692517
I kind of canned it, sorry. The threads were even more cancerous than they were right now at the time I finished it, so I figured I'd best not fan the flames.

I suppose I can't make things any worse at this point though, so if you'd really care to see how it ends I could either summarize the fic and post that, or post the whole thing, say, on the 31st. Make an event out of the inevitable shitfit.
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>>157694410
Close means you are at least rivaled. Rivals don't have to be equal. And Tristan doesn't use a bow. It's a harp.

Siegfried is the most skilled with a sword. He doesn't need EAM to prove this because he wasn't the most skilled overall at everything. You're literally ignoring this every time I post it. EAM is for those that are considered the most skilled overall, without rival. It's also based on people perceiving you to be that skilled. The description of the skill says so.
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>>157694650
Wrong Robin
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>>157694650
Literally not a knight.
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>>157694167
>Using EMIYA as an argument
>the one that actually can manipulate BP's power and timing and firepower that revolves around utilizing BPs.
>EMIYA never had EAM to catch BP which was the topic
>Needs to use other servants since he don't even know his Memelot can do the same.
Pottery Melvin!
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>>157694396
this desu desu
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Has Sumanai ever even done anything impressive with just his swordskill at all
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>>157694650
Knights and loyal patriots aren't the same thing.

The latter are way cooler.
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We're on the doorstep of a new event, why are people still indulging Melvin?
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>>157694438
The quote is "a hero known as the greatest knight". It's not among the knights, or of the knights, its literally the greatest knight period.
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>>157694913
Because we don't want another 2 hours of shitposting about Cleo
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>>157694872
Managed to be remembered fondly as a cool dude despite being a sacrificial lamb in the worst official Fate story to date used to power up the author's self insert?

>>157694913
Because I learn lots of cool new stuff about the lore I didn't know before from the people crazy enough to argue with him.
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>>157694872
He got rekt by Karna and Achilles
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>>157694872
Managed to keep up with Karna and actually score around 72 hits on him (though neither of them were trying to dodge).
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>The tragic queen whose beauty went down in history, Cleopatra VII. As the last queen of the Ptolemaic dynasty, she is the last real pharaoh of ancient Egypt.
>Though many depictions portray her as a bewitching beauty who made the country her personal possession and lost herself in love, the reality is the exact opposite.
>Highly intelligent, and an economic genius in particular, under this "top lady"'s leadership Ptolemaic Egypt, though lacking military strength, became a leading economic power.
>"Beauty is truth. And I am beauty. Well? Is there anything else I should say?"

What the fuck is this shit? An useless woman becoming a strong proud woman who need no man. So progressive! I thought only America did this crap. I'm disappointed in Japan. Fucking SJW.
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>>157694782
>BPs are exclusive to EMIYA
Retard alert
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>>157694663
So Gaia is comparable to humans then? Well how weak then that means Lancelot with Arondight kills Gaia and Alaya too ;^)

Truly UNR!\/∆|€[)! ABOVE WORLD LEVEL!
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>>157695115
He's the only one who can use them freely without repercussions. His only limit is how much prana he has available.
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>>157695076
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Don't reply to the obvious Cleo bait.
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SENPAI
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>>157695060
>>157695040
>>157695046

So basically nothing close to over the top as breaking reality with pure sword skill.

Random Japanese Farmer strikes again
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>>157695228
>>157695274
>truth
>bait
Nice try.
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>>157695213
Well, Gil could as well. Imagine how nuts that would be.
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>>157695286
I want Evilest Cat to give me a boarjob!
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>>157694720
>Rivals don't have to be equal.
When you are a self proclaimed rival maybe
>Siegfried is the most skilled with a sword.
Yet he got hit 78 times in vital spots while Gawain got hit 0 times.
>He doesn't need EAM
Because he isn't the most skilled.
>EAM is for those that are considered the most skilled overall, without rival.
Tristan, read Camelot and see what Arash says about Tristan.
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>>157695115
>Everyone is using BP as their main firepower.
Pottery, Melvin, literal pottery.

Infinite use STELLA! When!
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Sakura when?
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>>157695387
gross face
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What are the first two rules of the Holy Grail War?
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>>157695471
Mother Harlot Sakura
and Ishtar Rin
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>>157694650
>Being loyal means you're a Knight.
Nigga you dumb.

>>157694971
"Greatest of all the knights,"
of the Round Table, yes. This is something called subtlety in writing, my man.

Name other Knights that aren't from the meme table, that are in Fate right now.

TL Note: Servants classified as "Saber, Archer and Lancer" don't count as Knights. Servants that are EXPLICITLY called Knights.
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>>157695228
Have yet to see this one.
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>>157695183
Gaia created Arondight. Arondight can be stronger than its creator just like how human tools are stronger than humans. If Gaia could defend itself from threats it would have created Excalibur with a Super Mode to save it from getting btfo.
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>>157695546
Never reply to Melvin
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>>157694971
>The quote is "a hero known as the greatest knight". It's not among the knights, or of the knights, its literally the greatest knight period.
Why would anyone outside of England and France know of Lancelot to refer to him as the greatest knight
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=59470577
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>>157695115
>If a Noble Phantasm is packed with magical energy, it can be made to explode after striking its target. It is nearly impossible to repair a destroyed Noble Phantasm, and since they are the trump cards of Heroic Spirits, they are unlikely to take such measures.
It's safe to say EMIYA is the only one who would BP. Almost any other servant would be tantamount to suicide, and Gilgamesh would never destroy his prized treasury.
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>>157695546

Don't summon lancelot.
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>>157695350
No one has done something like break reality anyway. He's called the most skilled but doesn't live long enough to show off more of it. His only showing is just his fight with Karna where he gets outskilled.

>>157695435
Siegfried wasn't trying to avoid because it's not his style. He knows he can take a hit. Gawain retreated during his fight with Karna and ended up going through a wall because he knew getting hit was a bad idea. He let himself take a hit and it royally fucked his hand. Karna appeared to take far less damage than Gawain. After taking two hits, Karna only looked a little worn out. Gawain had a fucked hand. Leo was also there helping Gawain by keeping Karna from buffing. Karna had absolutely no support on his end and was doing fine.
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This is my wife.
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who /alltheworldsevil/ here
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>>157695787
There's a penis in there.
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>>157695642
So Gaia is weak then and just another human like entity. How weak! No wonder Arondight destroys everything!

Truly UNR!\/∆|€[)! ABOVE WORLD LEVEL!
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>>157695703
>This new Pixiv layout

Well, there's one thing worse than Cleo's design, I guess.
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>>157695596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmaOdbQvbVQ
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>>157695213
Lancelot and Gilgamesh can both do it too. Probably Richard and Altera too now.

>>157695556
>Greatest of all the knights
Wrong again. It's "Hero known as the greatest knight". Get it right next time.

>don't count as Knights
>despite being KNIGHT class
lol
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>>157695764
So Siegfried's the ultimate jobber's what you're trying to say
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>>157695861
I'm glad I still have the old one.
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>>157695856
Only if you want one. What happens if she changes into a guy while you're fucking though?
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>>157695792
Kotomine pls
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>>157695879
Rare baits?
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>>157695946
Siegfried never jobbed. He was still doing fine enough against Karna that he wasn't dying. You can call it jobbing in that it showed that Karna was more skilled, but he didn't outright lose the battle. He went out by making a sacrifice for Sieg.
>>
Does edgy arist guy have any more Servants after Cleo?
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>>157695969
The world's backend runs an RNG check and randomly places one of your penises inside the other's penis, destroying the penis of whoever was on the unlucky end of the cosmic roll of the dice.
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>>157694714
> I could either summarize the fic and post that, or post the whole thing, say, on the 31st
Post the whole thing please during European hours if you can.
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>>157695940
>Norse swordsman
>A Knight
>Celts
>Knights
>Babylonians
>Knights
>Thieves
>Knights

>Berserkers
>Not Knights
Lancelot confirmed for "Not a knight."

Again, fag, name every other knight that isn't explicitly labelled as a knight, without using
>But muh servant cards.

I'm waiting.
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So are there any updates to this? Can someone screencap the comments from after the dumbfucks figured out that it was our spreadsheet they were fucking with to begin with?
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>>157696027
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>>157695695
>Why would anyone outside of England and France know of Lancelot to refer to him as the greatest knight
He has risen above, and become a legend. The legend that they fear.
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>>157696250
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>>157693653
cleopatra is ugly designed though
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>>157695946
Jobbing is losing a fight when you could by all rights win. Siegfried never had a chance against Karna. He could put up a good fight, but his best offensive option is miles below Karna's second best offensive option.
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>No Ronnie CE
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>>157695940
Knight classes =/= knight.

To be a knight is a title. Several non-knights have been summoned into the knight classes because the only requirements are that you fill out one of the below:

>Saber
Have some sort of skill with a melee weapon, usually a sword. Don't even need a legendary sword to qualify.

>Lancer
Skill with a long weapon of some kind. Usually swift as well.

>Archer
Projectile weapons or NPs related to them.

They aren't literally knights.
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Why does CE Roman look like a Twilight?
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>>157696097
>Higashide: he's super strong and skilled guys,honest
>his one clear fight ends up him being used to show how this one other dude with the inferior mana supply is both stronger and more skilled than him

sounds like jobbing to me
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>>157696139
Define "European hours" by GMT and I'll give it a shot on Halloween.
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>>157695286
Why are FBfags so retarded?
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>>157695969
>Only if you want one.
Going off its description, I'm pretty sure the ability reflects the feelings of d'Eon and not those of anyone else.
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>>157691612
Where are her nipples?
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>>157695940
Lancelot can't since once he let loose of EAM item, it ceased to be an NP, unless the weapon is just a part of EAM item(Jets) and even then he never uses BP on the missiles. Gil can but he will need Prana supply to destroy them all and his NPs are not infinite nor that all of his NPs are used in combat to deal good damage when BPed. Richard's "Excaliburs" is the same as Lancelot's EAM skill actually but much better. Altera is unknown, need to wait for extella.
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>>157696427
10-15GMT
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>>157696285
I'm out of baits bro
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>>157695735
>It's safe to say EMIYA is the only one who would BP.
Lancelot, Richard and Altera can all spam BP.

>>157695764
>Siegfried wasn't trying to avoid
Then he wouldn't have bothered with blocking at all. Stop being delusional.
>After taking two hits, Karna only looked a little worn out.
He was bleeding.
>Karna had absolutely no support on his end and was doing fine.
Sounds like how Siegshit kept getting healed while Karna had no support.
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>>157696395
By the definition of jobbing, he still isn't. That word is horribly misused around here. He didn't outright lose the fight, but he never had any real chances of winning either. It was a stalemate because neither of them were using anything beyond their defensive NPs.
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>>157696470
She says she'll be whatever you want.
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>>157696530
Then it's my victory
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>>157696395
See >>157696323

Siegfried is a great Servant but Karna's just better, his legend is older and he was stronger in it, no fault of Siegfried's.
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>>157696226
That thing's old news now, old timer. Get with the times, Cleo's the new fad.
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>>157696638

I guess "underwhelming" is a better word here.
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Sieg is cancer and made Apocrypha dogshit.
Astolfo is also cancer and made Apocrypha dogshit, but I'd still fuck him.

Siegfried is cool.
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>>157696660
I guess it is anon
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>>157696481
>Lancelot can't since once he let loose of EAM item, it ceased to be an NP
Tell that to Gilgamesh weapons that were still under his control when he threw them at him. And it's KoH.

>Richard's "Excaliburs" is the same as Lancelot's EAM skill actually but much better.
Having some shit that even Iskander and his D AGI can dodge is sure helpful.
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>tfw Apocrypha would probably be pretty good if Sieg never existed
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>>157696913
Sieg was Takeuchi idea
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>>157687985
No, Nobunaga is actually female, she just looks much younger thanks to her ability.
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>>157696975
Nasu's idea actually
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>>157696975
And?
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>>157696848
Don't be sad anon, this bait is for you
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>>157696913
Apo would be good if it was actually about red team vs black team, instead of the fucking wank job we got. Homunculus were a mistake.
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Will Narita deliver or shit the bed like the rest?
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>>157696596
Siegfried didn't bother blocking. He was taking the hits with his body and counterattacking. That's his style of fighting.

Karna only spat out a little blood, but otherwise just looked a little winded. Gawain's sword didn't even leave a cut on his chest. Gawain had a far worse injury.

Karna had a better mana supply in Apo because his master was from the clocktower. Jinako is a bottom of the bin master who offered him nothing. Karna with a decent amount of mana was doing fine, but Karna with 0 support had no help at all.
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>>157693653
>Plumes
YES
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>>157696975
>>157697046

Still a terrible idea.
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>>157696896
>thrown weapons stops in midair if it's not an NP anymore
Your pea brain is melting again, Melvin, cool it of with kool aid.
>Excalibur is dodged by Iskandar
Since Arondight is the "sister" sword of Excalibur and equal to it means Arondight is useless too huh since your saying before Excalibur is equal of Arondight.
Yep, it melted. Too late Melvin.
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>>157696975
>typical wadafag trying to make people hate based takeuchi
Fuck off
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>>157697536
Saber, stop posting.
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Who should i ascend First, Nero or Artoria.

Or should i save my mats for the hopeful repeat of the free 4* so i can max out my favorite lizard?
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>>157693653
>Tears
JeanneAlter will finally reach her final ascension.
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>>157696375
>Knight classes =/= knight
lol
>Several non-knights have been summoned into the knight classes
w3w

>>157696152
>Siegfried, the Dragon-Blooded Knight
>He is the hero portrayed as the main character of the German Nibelungenlied epic. Prince of the Netherlands, he wields the precious sword Balmung which he received from the Nibelungen family, and has fought in many campaigns and adventures.
Literally taken from Apocrypha Materials. Your precious Shitfried is a knight in Nasuverse and inferior to the Greatest Knight, Lancelot.

I gave you MANY chances to pull back on your stupid argument, now just get BTFO.
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>>157694427
Protection in the Faith/Aegis of the Divine is already in the game though ,and it's one of Martha's shitty skills.
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>>157697616
Nero's new animations are very cool but Artoria is probably better
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>>157697536
>typical Takefag who likes his meme saberfaces and ruin the TM company
Fuck off
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>>157697638
That isn't the picture I chose
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>>157697665
Jets-kun, may i ask what's your favourite looking sword in TM?
I'm curious what your taste in weaponry is.
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>>157696641
Which is accomplished by Self-Suggestion. The "Self-" in that name being sort of important. The body is shaped as d'Eon shapes it, and d'Eon may or may not take other people's preferences into account.
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>>157697775
let it die.
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>>157697665
Not really, I still maintain that Siegfried is the pinnacle of swordsmenship. Not feeling btfo'd at all.
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>left the thread three and a half hours ago to escape Real Melvin Hours
>come back and you faggots are still replying
For fuck's sake, guys.
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>>157697665
>No mention of Siegfried being a knight
Naisu argument, Memelvin.
>Berserker Lancelot is not a Knight then
Answer this first, Memelvin.
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>>157697775
YAMEROOOOO
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>>157697839
I wish I could.

>>157698110
>>157698110
>>157698110
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Why are people arguing whether or not lancelot is a knight?

isn't his title knight of the lake
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>>157697775
I had this slimy feeling Riyo made this chapter just for this Image to be used by Chan as a image for Baking threads.
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>>157698159
there were no knight in the 6th century. He and George are no knights.
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>>157697326
>Siegfried didn't bother blocking.
>However, even for an excellent swordsman, it is not a matter of course that every spear thrust can be defended against without fail. It is all the more impossible to fully receive the constant attacks of a spearman that has stepped so far into the domain of Gods.
Yet Gawain did it.
>Saber takes yet another step further. Maneuvering his sword with the smallest possible movements, he wards off the spear's barrage. However, that is far from enough. Several thrusts connected directly with his vitals. His arteries were slashed apart, and his forehead was pierced - but it turns out that was not the case.

>Maneuvering his sword with the smallest possible movements, he wards off the spear's barrage.
He blocked, and failed, unlike Gawain. Why? Because he is inferior to the Knights of the Round Table.

>>157697851
Yet he got hit 78 times on vital spots while Gawain didn't get hit once before he let himself get hit.
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>>157695076
>last night I read 妾 as 姿
Jesus, I really did need to sleep. This is even better, though, I love warawa types.
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