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Siege edition.

(Looted) thread: >>157070004

READ THE PASTEBIN BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS.

LATEST BANNERLORD INFO/VIDEOS:

Gamescom Siege video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2qb66PbUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rq-fEc1N0I

Interviews with Armagan at Gamescom '16 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZcBAGtXvpk

Last blog:
www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/16

OLDER BANNERLORD INFO/VIDEOS: See Pastebin

PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/HPJiGhg0

M&B Wiki: http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Mount_and_Blade_Wiki

NOOB GUIDE: http://imgur.com/a/FMAqV

M&B VERSION ARCHIVES
>ftp://ftp.taleworlds.com/

>Anon's mods and upstab guide:
pastebin.com/agwZu9Df
>/mbg/ Steamgroup
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mountandbladevg

Module Recommendations:
>Gekonewer
https://mega.nz/#F!itxViDAT!PhBfJWsjATkdqN28V2kZ5g
>Dickplomacy 4.3.0.7b
full download
https://mega.nz/#!o5g3nAiY!Mv1fVljpCfCWykQW-fTqycWvq4zQ-5aRuTxUpMsN_F8

>"I made a mod recently or updated it. Wat do ?"
Link to the OP in your post so that it might be easier to find for the one making the next OP (also for regular people).
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>Playing VC
>Everyone has armies of fucking 200

help me
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excellent
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Where till the horizon there's nought to be seen
But vast empty plains, blue sky and grass green,
There roameth the steppe and tends to her herd
Yon pure steppe waifu, who makes my heart hurt.
I sit here and hanker—I sit here alone—
For yon steppe waifu, the saddle her throne.
Her kingdom as far as her eyes can see—
To that distant place I wish I could flee.
Alas here I sit, these generals my trap;
I shitpost, I rhyme, I long for the steppe
No waifu, no laifu, but maybe one day
I'll get on a horse and be on my way—
With pure steppe waifu in her yurt to lay.
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I'm posting Revan, renowned as the Revanchist, reviled as Revan the Butcher, dreaded as the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Revan, and praised as the Prodigal Knight, until we get an Old Republic era Star Wars mod.
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>>157251318
removed some mods from the OP. They can still be found in the pastebin
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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.
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>>157251842
>you will never have a pure steppe waifu

Why even live?
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>>157251790
Unless those armies have Norse troops, you don't have to worry. Norse infantry literally shit on every other faction's infantry unit. Hell, I think they even got better archers than the other factions.
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>>157252521
statistically they aren't much different from other faction top tiers though
it might just be because they always get some sort of sword
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>>157252521
>I think they even got better archers than the other factions.
They do.
Higher proficiencies. A chance to get the feathered bow (best one in the game, damage-wise). And better armor
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>>157251842
>>157252058
>>157252213

what happened to spurdoposter?

has he been defeated at his own game?
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>>157252058
Did you try Warwolf?
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Reminder that you don't need to pay wages
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>>157252716
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I wonder if art in bonerlord will be as good as it is in Warband
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>>157252698
Cao Cao poster and Steppe Waifu posters were too strong for him.
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When are we goin to play this shit? Fuckin muzzies probably fucking goats all day instead of working on the game.
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This is a Swadian thread. Rhodoks need to leave.
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>>157252698
>what happened to spurdoposter?
his spurdish was awful and hopefully he is now lurking finnish threads on int to improve
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>>157253351
Make me leave my castle.

Do it.
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>>157253373
how so anon? i thought it sounded fine desu, his edits were ok
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>>157253351
"no"
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>>157253716

He's right it was pretty bad. He didn't even follow any rules with it, like with the "ingoming call" one; if you're gonna make Cs into Gs then do it for all of them. He was just throwing Gs and Ds around at random.
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>>157253716
I need to see his examples again to point out specific mistakes, but generally you are only really meant to replace p with b and c with g, he replaced nearly every letter
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>>157254459
I think I missed that one because I don't remember

what did it look like?
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>>157253146
I like it
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Are there any good mods where you can play as an imperialist nation going against natives?
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>>157254610

It's the sea raider spurdo calling on a smartphone
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What mods will dickplomancy not work with?
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>>157255073
Literally Anglo Zulu
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Only disadvantage of a flaming head
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>>157255532
any other mod besides dickplomacy
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>>157255625
>>157253005
Your Skeleton be pimpin'
What gear are you using?

Here's my less impressive lich.
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>>157255073
Nova Aetas
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>>157256596
Zealot hood
Master Wizard Robe
Dragon Bone Boots
Black Gauntlets
Phoenix feather sword
Grand Master Staff, or some shit like that
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What's the most absurd item you've come across on your travels?
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>>157256759
does comm have one of those black hole staffs?

>>157256771
>
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>>157256759
I think that's the Wizard Staff? The Archmage one has a green jewel and no spikes.

Is it better than the Power Lich Staff?
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>>157257290
I can't say with confidence but I feel like all the staves with 35 damage, the high level ones, are the same
And since I got 10 power liches on my party I don't bother with it and gowith something that makes me feel pimp
I also collect staves
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>>157256759
>>157257185
pic related
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>>157255073
suvarnabhumi mahayuth
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>>157257718
I haven't seen anything like that
Though there is a sword called Armaggedon that decimates the entire map
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>>157251793
What armor is that?
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>>157252058
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>>157256759
Where'd you find that gear? In the pyramids and places with artifacts or did you buy it?
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>>157256771
I don't have any screen of ridiculous items
those are two npc's. I'm not one of them
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>>157258809
With exception of the boots and the flaming sword, I bought it all.
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>>157256771
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>>157259070
hilarious

reminds me of one those ridiculously small motorcycles that clowns use
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>>157257943
>sword called Armaggedon that decimates the entire map
I feel the need to play COMM again and go around searching for artifacts again.
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>>157259153

The handling on it was fucking amazing
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>>157259175
I found out about its existence and some other items from multiplayer but I have yet to find the dragon hide armor, the bony crown and the thunder sword
I wish the devs had put more word about the mod somewhere, it's like they died out after releasing it
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>>157259070
does it sound like a horse when you ride it?
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>>157260138

Can't remember. It was just a random bug that happened one day, I was going around seeing if I could feed any dogs and get them as a pet and that one just had the MOUNT prompt
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>>157251793
what mod?
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made some OC for you guys because you're the closest thing to I have to real friends
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>>157264010

Not bad
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>>157259895
Which version of the mod are you using? Just tried using Armageddon and it didn't do any cool shit except glow. And do a shit-load of damage.
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>>157254459
not him but I digged through the archives and found it

did I fix it?
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>>157264619
That's what it does, it causes damage throught the entire map
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>>157264713
Welp, i'm going to try it out again to see if the other version is actually going to do that.
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>>157264634
Raider to Gaider still doesn't make sense
I'd change it to “t. Sea Raider”
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>>157264713
Yep, got it to work. Hopefully i'll be able to find it in-game one of these days. I would be able to take entire cities on my own.

Ignore shit graphics
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>>157266160
Chances are that you can find it on either, the Crypt or the Dragon Utopia
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>>157264010
Damn good OC.
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Khuzaits will dominate your cock
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>>157264634
The avatar bothers me. It should be completely redrawn.
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>>157267481

im ok with that
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What is the best warrior companion in vanilla?
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>>157269037
Ymira
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>>157269037
Jeremus
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>>157269037
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>>157269298
genuinely impressive 'shop desu
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>>157269037
Rolf, son of Rolf, heir of the noble house of Rolf.
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>>157268263
You should be
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>>157253005
Which mod?
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>>157255038
The Mount and Blade team are the few good Turks. I hope Putin is a warband nerd and extracts them before he glasses the land of the thanksgiving bird.
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>>157265914

I second this. Gaider doesn't sound good
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>>157269797
this

if not for Mount & Blade my opinion of Turkey would be that it is nothing more than a roach-infested kebab shithole
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>>157270157
M&B Ottoman mod/dlc when?
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>>157269694
CoMM
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>>157265914
>>157270137

alright, tried my best to copy the original font/color

how does it look now?

sorry I can't redraw the avatar btw, I'm not very good at this
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>>157270560
Looks dope. I think ill play it after gekokuju.
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>>157269073
Damn straight.
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>>157270942
Truly formidable. Slaying looters like they were nothing.
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>>157271087
This was actually a damn close battle, I don't remember the details but the looters were just the last ones left, I lost the rest of my party including several Rhodok Sharpshooters and a couple of Swadian Knights earlier on. Ymira just kept cooly moving behind me laying down supporting fire like some kind of Rhodok machinegunner.
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>>157272448
I love it
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>>157272448
make the uniform green
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>>157272976
too lazy, looking for another picture to work on
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>>157273320
i got one
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>>157251318
Another day
Another dead Australian community 12ish hours ago
It never gets any better
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>>157274253
shit res but eh
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Why does every mod suffer from crippling design flaws that the modders often put in and refuse to remove?

EVERY MOD

EVERY SINGLE MOD
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>>157274820
you used this image on occasion when you shitposted this but now it's just getting sad
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>>157258919
Think the mod team for VC had a thing for beefy bodytypes?

Even the women are thick.
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>>157273320
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Who is worst claimant?
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>>157255625
>>157253005
Yo what mod is that my boy!
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>>157274253
>>157274708
>>157275130
I'll get to your posters eventually, expect them in maybe 10 days,
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>>157275607
Isolla of Suno
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>>157264713
please my dude
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>>157275721
>>157275617
CoMM
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>>157275607
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>>157270614

I like it a lot better. Acceptable work, anon
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>>157275607
The Whore of Suno, of course!
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>>157253146
Dr. Harlaus, I'm Rhodok Republic.
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Wiccan Battanians > Vlandians > Monotheistic Battanians > other factions > shit > Empire
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>>157272976
not that anon but I tried to paint it green + cleaned up text/fonts
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Which factions in 1257 typically get their shit pushed in, I want to join a faction that sees combat relatively early.
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>>157277086
wales, ireland, any pagan faction in the batlics like the samogotians
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>>157275923
>doing nothing while op range units nuke face

that looks like fun
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>>157277204
How does Poland, Serbia and Bohemia fair typically without player intervention? On my HRE save they're still around, still being irrelevant.
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>>157277403
poland and serbia can last a while, since they start with a good amount of land
bohemia can get shit on quick due to its small size, though 1257 is pretty random with who takes over really
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>mfw just realized tournament judges are blind to magic casters.
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>>157277086
Crusader States are constantly at war with the Mamluks, and with occasionally go to war with the Khanate.
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making this one was pretty unsatisfying, just didn't know what to do with it, i'll probably work on it some more in the future
>>157277067
thanks anon
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>>157278239
kek

I like what you did with the butter
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>>157277204
I can vouch for Ireland but for me the nords are enriching scotland and french bailed Ireland after the whole english kingdom went to get some gaelic booty.
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Is this CoMM?
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>>157280832
That's CoMM alright
By the way, don't fight Necromancy with Necromancy
Just spam fireballs next time
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>there are people in this thread that unironically play as the (((rh*doks)))
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>>157281187
t. buttblasted swadian
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>>157280354
Then I will become Ireland's greatest hero, Potato Man.
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>>157281675
Probably should help the welsh when they decide they don't want to supply anymore bows since all their towns along with any nearby english is looted 24/7 and they'll go to war with England eventually.
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Where is the lore, TaleWorlds?
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>>157281979
in Prophesy of Pendor
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>>157281921
Being a Welshman is even more difficult?
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>>157282919
Being Welsh allows you to be a true Wiccan champion.
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>>157282919
>start with 1 town, 1 castle, 4 villages, 4 or 5 lords
well yeah
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>>157270550
literally right now in the steam workshop and on modDB
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>it's a FUCKING tournament round where everyone is on horseback and has a great lance in a 20x20 feet arena episode
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>>157284343
gotta make things interesting for the spectators anon
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>>157284469
Whoever thought this was a good idea needs to be dropped asshole first onto a cactus.
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>>157276619
Please. Everyone knows that Khuzaits > *
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>>157284343
fuck it
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>>157284343
Then you get to lance everyone's horses so they run around trying to hug each other
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>>157285327
This is why I love upstab guy's mods that replace those with what's basically a blunt heavy lance. You can actually hurt people with stabs.
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>dickplomacy anon is dead
>gekonewerfag is still alive
this world is wrong
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dead
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>>157267481
>>157268263
>>157269563

So where are these from?
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Thread is dead, post best roach (male)
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post webms and ignore /v/edditors
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>>157284343
>Create a fort in the corner with dismounted horse
>proceed to slaughter any who dare enter your little corner
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>>157285327
i do that too
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>there is a slight chance every day that you will suddenly die before bannerlord is released
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>>157290235
best AA girl
I want her to dom me and call me worthless filth
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>>157290309
Is that an automatic rifle firing explosive ammo?
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>in the desert killing desert bandits
>this is easy, they die in one slash
>oh shit
>75 of them suddenly appear out of nowhere and surround me and my few heavy horsemen
>not a save scummer so I fight to the end, personally kill about 40 before they surround me and capture me
>escape, only thing on my mind is revenge
>tfw I kill all the fuckers and rescue the rest of my men who were captured
feelsgoodman

I'm tempted to join with the sandniggers for a while, but I think I'll just stick to building dyeworks throughout the world
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>>157290786
yes
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>>157289024
>Not just searching for centaur and english on sadpanda
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>>157290887
Is it a mod or is that actually native B&G:C!?

more importantly can you equip your companions with it and bully groups of 100+ natives?
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>>157290309
nice ancient mk19
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>>157291030
i put it in my submod, you only get 5 shots, it's 100k base, and it only does 30 aoe damage now (small grenades do 90)
>more importantly can you equip your companions with it and bully groups of 100+ natives?
probably, be better to get cannons though
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>>157290497
Same for everybody that travels to work
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>>157291158
not for NEETs
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>>157291065
it's fitted with an assault clip for killing children
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>>157291238
>bayonet xbow

my world is blown. bannerlord better have something to make melee xbow an actual thing.
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>>157291420
nothing stopping you from doing that now, you could add a melee function to crossbows in native it's just a matter of item placement in the itemkinds for slots
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>>157281020
>te] [Auto] 57 new posts
Dude whats that Hud you got there it looks different from the Mod
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>>157291420
I mean, if you're going for remote realism, crossbow bayonets are retarded. I wonder if there's any documentation for how people used crossbows as melee weapons, I mean someone's had to have bashed a fucker with it.
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>>157292484
That's vanilla, dude. Hit backspace.
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>>157282919
>welsh
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>>157264634
it should be ingoming goll then, and t.Sea Rader, R isnt replaced with a G
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>>157281187
>not playing as the gods of the battlefield

Get with the times buddy, cavalry's on it's way out, now is the era of the archer and the crossbowman.
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whats the most fun faction in CoMM?
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>>157264010
I like it
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>>157264010
this anon likes it >>157300229
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>>157300229
>>157300437
made me chuckle desu
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>playing PooP
>get a quest from the village elder to rescue his daughter from Jarl Olaf Oakenshield
>find him sieging a Ravenstern city
>dialog options to ask about the girl are missing
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>>157268263
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>>157286696
>gekonewerfag doesn't add dicking to Gekonewer
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>tfw assets and scenes from native will never be replaced by a full set of high quality ones

I need bonerlord already. Native stuff sure looks like shit.
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>>157303718
>I need bonerlord already.
Join the line
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Does dickplomacy have anything over regular diplomacy? (not counting the sexing)
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dickplomacy anon has made the dicking charisma requirements too high desu, 24 charisma is insane
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>>157305945
formations and horse archer ai
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>>157306186
horse pussay finally got gud? still sucks in sieges most likely
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>>157304723
Now that I look at it it looks like the imperial soldier witht the golden helmet with a peacock feather on top of it is female
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If I want to remove pagans, northern pagans along the Baltic Sea do I use a sword, mace, axe or spear?
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>>157307370
Sword and spear
Go angelic on their asses
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>>157304723
I love all the clipping in the scene, a truly mount and blade game.
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>>157307670
I love that they hold their shields in front of them while climbing the ladder. While others seem to climb using their arms
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Any mods that'll polish the base game experience?
my main problem with Warband is I eventually end up with not enough money to hire new men BUT not enough men to take a city and move myself up. Normally a part of about 100-150 people
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>>157307871
The best way is to raid one faction, attack a caravan and loot their villages, then you have money and your troops upgraded from the fights.
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>>157307871
Checks Anon's pastebin (see OP)
Check Dickplomacy.
For the sieges unless you cheese in some sort of way or really like grinding that CHA and renown to up your party size the game pretty much expects you to rally lords if you want to take a normally garisoned town or castle.
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>>157308093
Aight cheers
>>157308207
Yeh I know diplomacy but I'll try some others
Another problem is trying to cheese charisma and out a fuckload into it to get a bigger party but it ends up stalling eventually
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Why does being infantry or any type of bowman feel completely inferior to being cavalry? Nothing matches running multiple people through in one charge
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>>157307871

Gotta build dem enterprises, son. Also don't hold onto Castles, they're just a money sink. Villages are okay, but Towns are where the big money is. Pass on every fief you get offered, then when a Town pops up ask your King for it directly. If your renown is high enough and you own few lands, you're almost guaranteed to get whatever you ask for.

If none of those are an option for whatever reason, start trading between towns or hitting Sea Raider gangs and selling the loot.
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>>157308906
I actually feel so smug when I shoot that motherfucker's horse and he drops dead to my infantrybros.
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>>157308982
Yeh I know about enterprises, there's only so much you can build though. Cheers though
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>>157309059
I feel nothing when I impale some coward with a projectile, its just another day in the office.
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>>157309132
>coward with a projectile

t. Knigger, see you in the siege
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>>157309228
Good luck, I'm behind 7 shields
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>>157309329
Too bad that Heater Shield can't protect your legs :^)
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>>157309132
>it's a cavalrynigger thinking he's hot shit

Let's see your horse climb a ladder.
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>>157303491
>That pic
If it was any higher resolution that would make a great wallpaper.
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>>157308906
I love being an infantryman and bringing down a cavalryman's horse. Just the thought of approaching a grounded Knight, Mamluke, or Khergit Lancer with a 2h axe and a face like 'Your ass is mine' is so satisfying.

Few feels are better to me than telling your Nord infantry to fire at will at *just* the right time, and watching the front of that cavalry charge just topple.
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>when you are set up for the siege
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>>157310660

Stop making that look so fun
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>>157310660
>summon archdevil
*yawns*
Call me back when Power Word Kill and Pin to the Sky are things
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>>157310628
Unmounted is just too slow, half a day to run across a map when a cavalry master race can traverse that same distance in a couple seconds.
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>>157311095
>>157310628
>not being mounted infantry
Literally what the fuck is wrong with you people
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>>157311179
then you're alone in the front with only your horse that likely ran away because its smarter than you
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>>157311179
>Not fighting on the ground, up to your knees in muck and blood, beside your loyal warriors
>Not hacking and beating your way through enemy infantry
>Not holding off cavalry charges with little more than tight formations and throwing weapons
>Not watching the enemy rout as your infantry advance in a slow-moving, all-consuming wall of death

I don't want to know that feel.

In one of my other SP campaigns, I actually do fight mounted. Lancing fuckers from horseback is fun, but I think it's more fun to be an infantryman killing cavalry than a cavalryman killing infantry. To each his own, I guess.
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>>157311797
Mounted Infantry is infantry that moves on horseback. They dismount during battle.
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>>157311846
Oh, neat. So Dragoons?
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>>157311881
I guess kind of
Historically a lot of forces that could afford it used horses as transportation instead of an actual fighting force.
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>>157311797
Infantry is just too slow for attacking in field battles, mounted infantry is just dumb, and it makes my feet hurt, I wish I was back at Acre.
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>>157312139
>he's a le ebin knight plebian
I literally cannot think of a more plebian troop than the knight. It's not even a catapract for the extra cool factor of being the heaviest thing on the entire battlefield and with ranged and melee capability. No it's just some snotty rich kid in a suit of armor. power word kill.
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>>157312308
>its a poorfag heathen thinks he's knows about knights
All you know about knights is when I stab your wife in the ass with my lance after my horse tramples you into dust
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>>157312435
But I'm not a lesbian and level 1 nobles in armor can't save against instant death spells.
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Hi /mbg/

Been lurking quite a bit lately and thought I'd drop in for another session in case you had some questions. I'll be around for the next hour or so.

If anyone wants to duel (EU), I'm also taking all challengers today and tomorrow.
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>>157313736
hi
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>>157313736
Reportedly EA has looked less likely to be released this year (or at all?), is that true?
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>>157313828
Unfortunately, yes. We're actually making good progress right now but there is still a lot of work to do. Also, I should mention that, for EA/beta MP is likely to be available some time before SP.

>>157313797
hi
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>>157313736
To be frank this >>157313828 is the most pressing question.

>>157313946
Can you give us any more miscellaneous information on what remains to be done? Just broadly speaking. Like, are there features still being implemented, is it mainly assets and localization, or hammering bugs and testing work...?
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>>157313998
>Can you give us any more miscellaneous information on what remains to be done? Just broadly speaking. Like, are there features still being implemented, is it mainly assets and localization, or hammering bugs and testing work...?

All of those are being done actually, so yeah features are still being implemented of course.
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>>157313736
Will the indictment/defection system be the same as in Warband? Also is it true that you can kill lords and how will the faction "restock"?
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>>157314102
Are any of the features that have already been mentioned in dev diaries or whatnot still being implemented, or are the ones we've been told about all generally implemented already
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Oh shit, I'm finally here when Frank's here.

>>157314102
I got a few questions. Will Bannerlord have a recruitment system like in some mods (Viking Conquest, for example) where you can recruit higher-tier soldiers from cities? To use VC as an example: If there are six tiers in a troop tree, villages will always give T1 at low relations and cities will always give T2 troops at low relations and higher costs at the start.

Does anything change when a faction controls a city that didn't originally belong to them? If the VC city recruiting thing is in, will you be able to recruit your own factions troops from the cities (and the original factions troops from the villages)?

The next time you do a video for Bannerlord, can you go into more detail about village and city management? Yeah, I know the blog has details about it, but I figured that something new would be done with the management between now and the blog post.
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>>157313736
is bannerlord coming out
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>>157313736
Do you have any info of how open some stuff is to modding, like implementing new models in the weapon crafting system or if it could be used for armor?
Basically, any finalized mechanical/design details we haven't gotten in trailers or etc yet?
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>>157313736
wow wtf. surprised me
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>>157313736
>Been lurking quite a bit lately
He lives among us!
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>>157314102
We will be able to mod, like, everything, right? If we want new animations, we can add them? If we wanted to edit the map, we can do that? There were other games that allowed that before for their previous games, but their latest games use third party software so they won't let players add animations nor edit the map (Total War, for example).
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>>157314676
Total War can actually be map-modded, it's just hard. Like really hard.
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>>157314713
It can? I thought a lot of Attila dream mods couldn't be done because the map couldn't be changed?

Well damn. Okay: The map-editing for Bannerlord won't be REALLY hard, right?
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>>157313736
I remember rumors about a lineage system being introduced in Bannerlord with your character aging and dying and you could even have kids.
Is this true or just rumors?
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>>157253373
>lurking finnish threads on int to improve
voi ei
he'll come back with apustaja memes and rönttöntönttöä posting
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>>157313736
I have so many questions actually.
Is the Bannerlord project defined now ? Or are you still launching new ideas/projects.
In other words do you (TW) know now what WILL be in the end product and what will not be ?
Bonus question: do the three empires have differences between them now ?
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>>157314782

full map editing tools were actually released for shogun 2
it's just that no one knows how to use 3ds max so that dream died
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>>157314102
This => >>157314785
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>>157313946
The spooky 16th savoy man compels you to release a new blog with worthwhile content in it
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>>157313998
Have you played Carribean!?
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>>157314274
No but I can't really talk about it; yes it is true but again, can't really talk about it

>>157314341
Generally, we only talk about things that are implemented. This goes for events as well. There might be one or two features or elements of features that have been included, as things we are working on or have yet to do, but the vast majority of things are actually implemented already.

As part of my role doing Community and PR stuff I am very cautious about what we say and so we're not really in the habit of lying.

>>157314562
Recruitment actually got changed recently. I'm not sure if it's going to stay as it is now but I can say that it has a more interesting twist and connection to the world than Warband's system. Can't say more than that right now though.

Honestly not sure about the second one. Can't even really remember how it worked it Warband!

I think you can expect us to show a lot more about the campaign early next year.

>>157314583
Yes. Eventually, yes.

>>157314589
>Basically, any finalized mechanical/design details we haven't gotten in trailers or etc yet?
That's not how this works! :)

As for the crafting system, it's handled in code that is moddable so implementing new models etc. shouldn't be a problem. I'm not sure about armours and I'm not a programmer so I can't say whether or not it's technically possible but I wouldn't be surprised if someone did it. Honestly the real work there is in asset creation. The system and programming would be relatively simple but creating a large set of assets with different parts that can all fit together and also make the process interesting and worthwhile? That would be a fair challenge.
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>>157315571
i heard that armagan was killed and replaced with a body double
can you confirm/deny
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>>157315571
>yes it is true
YAH EAR IM BOIS
GET THOSE BATTANIANS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK
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Does anyone know how many bullets 16th-century arquebusiers and musketmen usually carry with them?
I've seen mods use anywhere from 15 to 75.
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>>157315571
>yes it is true
YOU HAVE WRONGED ME FOR THE LAST TIME RAGNAR
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>>157314676
As far as I know, Bannerlord is, in no sense, less moddable than Warband and in many senses, more or much more moddable.

>>157314785
We confirmed permanent death of named NPCs but nothing further. Obviously that feature does imply the presence of something else to balance it out... I can't say any more than that.

>>157314987
For the most part it's pretty clear but we regularly make changes. So yeah we are still coming up with new ideas and adding them/changing them/removing them.

>>157315223
Soon.

>>157315535
Yes but not really since it first came out.
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>>157315893
>Soon.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>157315868
As many bullets as you want. But carrying more than 10-15 powder charges might be cumbersome.
If you wait a bit I can post a powder horn of the 16th
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>>157315893
I am not sure if this has been asked before but will each Empire faction have different aesthetics beyond a color scheme?
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>>157315745
Deny. He's definitely still the same Armagan.
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>>157315893
Who is your waifu
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>>157315893
Is there a timeline for the release of Han Hun Total War?

Is there a timeline for the official Taleworlds publishing of Prophecy of Pendor?
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>>157315893

Tell us about co-op, can you not talk about it or has it been dropped?
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>>157315868
>>157315992
Here you go. Now those are military ones that are usually a bit bigger.
Also by the end of the 16th a lot of musketeers started carrying premade charges. They usually carried about 7 to 10/12 of them
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>>157315571
>>157315749
That remind me
Is Butterlord going to retcon M&B again? >>157217540
Is Battanian genocide going to be canon or not?
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>>157316074
You have to remember the premise is that they empire just separated so they're not really distinct factions. This is something that could change though. I'm sure we'll end up putting in some differences, and there will be enough variety that occurs naturally (as a result of each faction having different environments, producing different goods, leaders having different personalities) that they will feel distinct and interesting when you play anyway. I don't really want to promise more than that but is it enough to say that, if it feels wrong or lacking, we'll address it? I like to think we take a lot of care over the game so I don't think it's going to be some kind of huge source of disappointment, when creating variety would actually be incredibly easy.

>>157316190
um?

>>157316213
no?
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>>157315893
Will you be able to customize banners or is it "pick from the pre-made ones" lick last time?
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>>157315571
In Warband, nothing really changed when a faction controlled a city that didn't originally belong to them besides the obvious (Orange Praven is now Blue Praven. If you're at war with the Nords and they own Praven now, you don't earn money from your enterprise there). Will it still be like that in Bannerlord or will there be changes?
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>>157316264
> 7 to 10/12
Well that's disappointing.

I'm going to assume they had more on hand during sieges.
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>>157316459
like* fug
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>>157315893
Can you tell us more about the modding tools?
Besides the scene editor you have already shown I assume it'll allow you to import assets like textured models of buildings, will there be an editor for the campaign map as well?

Will the game contain mechanics for seafaring and naval combat, or will that have to be modded in?
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>>157316445
>um?
Do you not know what a waifu is

>(as a result of each faction having different environments, producing different goods, leaders having different personalities)
Speaking of this, will we be able to impose a monopoly on certain goods so say for example we totally stop exporting fish to people we're at war with or on bad terms with because we control the entire coastline?
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>>157316262
Same answer as the ones we have given most recently. You can check Armagan's RPS interview for the best reply we have, in my opinion.

>>157316318
Well mountains and the desert etc. are considerably different already, although the basic outline of the continent is essentially the same. There will be a lot that is consistent and hopefully does service to the fans but I wouldn't expect it to be 100% inkeeping with everything from Warband. Having said that, it's a prequel and there's not a whole lot of lore in there anyway.

for the last question, probably not
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>>157313736
Going to ask the important questions here.
How many board games are we getting?
Can I play tafl with proto-ragnar to make him like me?
Can we play board games in multiplayer?
Can we mod board games?
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>>157316513
Hint they can carry two powder horns and pulverin
In warband mods, be it Swedish Mayonnaise or Geko I always 15-20 was the sweet spot. enough to be pretty useful and enough to not allow you to just sit on your ass and fire, forcing you to take ammo from fallen soldiers
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>>157313736
1. is bannerlord horse archery AI going to be changed? In Warband horse archers are useless because the AI just randomly run into enemies and use melee sometimes
2. How come there are no place-names on the map similar to any of the Vaegir placenames? (no reyvadin, rivacheg, curaw, khudan) Are Vaegirs being retconned? They were one of the first two factions so it'd be sad if it were the case.
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>>157316710
What is your opinion on the Cao Cao poster?
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>>157316794
>Are Vaegirs being retconned? They were one of the first two factions so it'd be sad if it were the case.
t. slavanon
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>>157316710
Everything going all right for you in Turkey, what with the failed coup and all that ?
Can we expect a blog on the skill system soon ?
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>>157316445
Getting my hopes up when you say that the game will be more moddable but I was wondering if it will also be flexible for Fantasy stuff like having multiple races and magic system
Since there is a specific damage for fire maybe there can be more types of damage?
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>>157316794
>How come there are no place-names on the map similar to any of the Vaegir placenames? (no reyvadin, rivacheg, curaw, khudan) Are Vaegirs being retconned?
It's stated (or at least implied) in Warband that they moved over the mountains relatively recently, probably at about the same time as the Khergits. Their homeland lies east of the territory they occupy in Warband (which should mean that there are some Vægir placenames in the expanded east of the map, though).
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>>157316928
Wail of the Banshee when
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>>157316934
well, usually even in conquests placenames don't usually change that much, there are some rare exceptions though
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>>157316445
are we going to be able to do what's in this webm? ie alternate different weapon modes (primary is cutting overhead, left/right swings, piercing thrust; secondary is piercing upstab/thrust, blunt side bashes) or head flipping (flipping the head of a hafted weapon like a warhammer to use the reverse pick, or of a pollaxe to use the hammer)
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>>157277086
Bohemia
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>>157316459
The former. :)

>>157316510
What sort of changes are you expecting or looking for?

>>157316615
I think that editor is also used for the campaign map actually. But I'm pretty sure we also allow for proper 3d software to make maps as well. Totally not sure about that but you will definitely be able to change the campaign map.

Naval combat, cannot really make any promises. Going to lean towards probably not at release, at least.

>>157316695
You automatically don't trade with factions you're at war with. If you are their primary source of food, you'll be forcing them to go elsewhere, which might mean higher costs etc.

So, yes.

I'm not really sure what waifu means in this context. Are you asking my dream girl? Does it have to be from an anime or game or something?
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>>157316710
Will there be butter in Butterlord?
Will I be able to run my own butter works?
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>>157317180
>Are you asking my dream girl? Does it have to be from an anime or game or something?

Exactly.
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>>157317180
Is there anything in particular you have taken from NW or VC to implement in Bannerlord?

>Does it have to be from an anime
Where else would she be from?
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>>157317180
>I'm not really sure what waifu means in this context. Are you asking my dream girl? Does it have to be from an anime or game or something?
Lurk for 2 years before posting etc.
It was a throwaway comment. Waifus don't need to be from an anime but their general requirement is that they can't be real.
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>>157317180
can you comment on Han Hun Total War at all? Rumor has it on the Chinese forums that they flew in to Ankara to talk about being an official warband expansion
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>>157317180
The only acceptable waifu is K I N G H A R L A U S
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The only winning move is to not answer, Frank
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>>157316445
Well, even though they just separated, they are in different regions. In most actual empires there would be regional diversity even before separation, so it would make sense for there to be subtle differences.
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>>157317180
what are your thoughts on /mbg/-made mods? Have you played any of them?
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>>157317180

>I'm not really sure what waifu means

Are you new to the internet
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>>157317454
How is it a rumor when they took pictures of the TW offices and everything?
That's like saying it's a rumor that King Arthur was a woman.
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>>157317610
The western empire in the E3 footage had golden helmets that we haven't seen on the southern empire's troops.
Maybe its part of those subtle differences
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>>157310660
What companion is that? Minion?
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>>157317180
How complete Bannerlord now, frank?
(Scale: 0% - 100%)
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>>157317959
yeah
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>>157317180
Will Bannerlord have better support for things like trolls and magic systems? Non humanoid races?
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>>157317721
>Reifags
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>waifu poster scared off Frank
good job
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>>157317180
Less what I am expecting and more just curious if anything new changes.
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>>157317721
good job bullying frank away faggot
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>>157317180
What are these?

Also, how exactly does the Weapon crafting system function?
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>>157310660
It makes me mad that the Morrowind mod is so not even barely a mod.
Maybe when Skywind is done they'll let them use assets. we can dream
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>>157317721
what have you done
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>>157310660
Reminder that devils in M&M are actually Aliens and Angels are metahuman cyborgs
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>>157318294
weren't they removed ? Its an old screen
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>>157318294
They showed off weapon crafting in the Gamescon video.
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>>157318546
>Gamescon
PC gamer weekender actually
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>>157317721
Waifufags are truly cancer
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>>157318294
>>157317180
>Also, how exactly does the Weapon crafting system function?

>>157318546
From a developer/modder perspective.

By this I mean, do modders have to add into the game the separate sections of each weapon, then the game puts them together, or do they have to add the model for every single variation of a sword?
Will they be able to add entire weapons separate from the weapon crafting system, or do they have to be compatible with it?

>>157318536
Are they? I think they are just different windows altogether.
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>>157316725
>Going to ask the important questions here.
>How many board games are we getting?
Didn't we announce this already? https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/08/12/mount-blade-2-bannerlord/
One for each culture, so 6.

>Can I play tafl with proto-ragnar to make him like me?
Sure. Don't know if that will be enough on its own but it'll help.

>Can we play board games in multiplayer?
Not right now.

>Can we mod board games?
Of course.

>>157316794
1. Yes. Actually, the programmer who sits next to me has done some work on this. Can't give details though. But he's a great programmer. :)

2. The names are subject to change actually. Lore stuff like that will probably be tweaked and added in later.

>>157316809
I don't really get it. Is it to do with Gejukoku?

>>157316895
The coup was actually pretty damn scary. War planes flying low... freaked out a bit. Very uncomfortable night. Mostly it's fine though.

Skill system probably won't be our next blog subject, sorry.

>>157316928
Sure, that all sounds possible. I'm pretty sure anyway. Not 100% about the damage types but I think so. At the very least, I expect there would be decent workarounds for all that.

>>157316934
See above.

>>157317085
Right now you can't do what's in the webm. But yes more and different modes will be included for weapons. Can't give loads of detail here.
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>>157318817
>but it'll help.
O shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-
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>>157318817
>One for each culture, so 6.

Can we have a chess clone so I can live my childhood dream?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rS_n3JVTPE
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>>157318817
thank you based frank
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>>157318817
>Sure, that all sounds possible
ayyy
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>>157318768
that's not how you spell saxons
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>>157318908
This was based.

>>157318951
「The Goal of All Life is Death!」
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>>157316895
>>157318817
Did Taleworlds lose access to their online storage when Erdogan fatwad Github?
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>>157318951
>>157319046
Read the new part already?
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>>157318817
Can you confirm, once and for all, the culture inspirations for each faction? Battanians seem Welsh, the Empire feels like the Byzantine Empire, you said the Kievan Rus was for the not slav faction. What about the others? Franks? Normans? Avars? Huns? Generic arabs?
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>>157318817
Where do you guys get inspiration for faction equipment in Bannerlord? Do you look at historical sources, fantasy games, or depictions like Osprey?
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>>157319135
Just did, can't wait for undead dragon
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>>157318817
>The coup was actually pretty damn scary. War planes flying low... freaked out a bit
I understand lived that once in Lebanon. but I was 12 at the time
Next time it happens consider getting to the basement (if there is one) with as much water as you can get, dried food, radio/phone, whatever available. You may not know how long you'll have to stay in there But don't say in a flat unless its on the 2 first floors
>I don't really get it. Is it to do with Gejukoku?
It would be better for you to ignore this
>At the very least, I expect there would be decent workarounds for all that.
I just hope I'll be able to mod plate/scale/lamellar armor as a type of armor that is impervious to arrows and cutting damage
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>>157318817
what are the inspirations for the names and cultures of the Warband factions? Also, what's the inspiration behind the names Aserai and Sturgian?
7 years on from mount&blade and nobody's really sure what the hell Rhodoks are supposed to be
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>>157317180
>The former :)

Fuck yes. Thanks senpai.
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>>157319296
Yes. >Frost Dragon LORD
>literally maid tier
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>>157319342
Rhodoks are Italian/Swiss mercenaries obviously.
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>>157319313
>>I just hope I'll be able to mod plate/scale/lamellar armor as a type of armor that is impervious to arrows and cutting damage
I'd rather have an AC system that requires a certain level of force or damage type to penetrate.
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>>157318908
>aoe2 remastered never
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>>157319527
...AoE2 HD?
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>>157317229
Yes. I think butter is just produced if you have a cow farm in a village, rather than with a butter works.

>>157317419
>>157317430
Hmm. For anime, I'm not sure. Haven't seen a whole load but potato girl in attack on titan is cute.

If this extends to games, Lightning is pretty cool. FF13 is a bit of a mess but watching her punch people instead of dealing with social situations was pretty damn hot.

As for taking stuff from NW or VC... not specifically anything I can think of right now. Not directly at least. They're both projects that we've learned from but they also had very different directions to Native. Bannerlord will be closer in spirit to Native Warband than either of those. Although of course much more feature rich and polished and pretty etc.

>>157317454
Oh that. Wow... I can't talk about that at all! I'm surprised you even know about it. Impressed, even.

>>157317715
I haven't, I'm afraid. Don't tend to play much other than Native these days and even that's fairly rare.

>>157317990
Not going there. :)

>>157318046
Answered this. My suspicion is yes, just due to the nature of how the game is made but it's not going to be fully geared up for that sort of thing, since we aren't using it for the game. In general, if it's been done in Warband, it can almost certainly be done in Bannerlord and is probably easier to manage.

>>157318294
>>157318536
Yep removed. So... they never existed!

>>157318773
There are parts, they have values which determine offsets etc. so they all fit together nice. You can scale each part. They all have physical properties (weight etc.) which morph to their scale. The combined physical properties of the parts produce the stats of the weapon, length, damage, cut damage etc.
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>>157319342
>Aserai
A jewish tribe is named the Aseri
>Sturgians :
Fishes
Both the lore around rhodoks and how they fight just screams Switzerland
>>157319407
That sounds complicated
>>157319359
this was confirmed before
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>>157319613
>potato girl in attack on titan is cute
plebbest taste
>Lightning
>waifuing Lightning
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>>157319595
That is not so HD.
I want aoe2 with aoe3 engine
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>>157318817
Are people going to still be capable of blocking a mounted swing from giant axe with a knife?
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>>157319681
>when people parry a spear from horseback with a fucking shortsword
It's like the spirit of lu bu lives within every man
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>>157319665
>plebbest taste

Stop bullying Frank you fucking waifufag
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>>157319613
>So... they never existed!
Alright. So now what was it ?
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>>157319676
so you want a good looking 2D game to look like shit?
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>>157319665
dumb waifuposter.
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>>157319613
>Oh that. Wow... I can't talk about that at all! I'm surprised you even know about it. Impressed, even.
Is Frank messing with us?
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>>157319774
>Stop bullying Frank you fucking waifufag
I don't even have a waifu though.
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>>157319613
Just pick a random number between 0 - 100 :^)
I just want to know how complete the bannerlord is.
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>>157319885
1.
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>>157319787
dunno man, aoe3 seems more comfy for me
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>>157318908
You can mod it!

>>157319068
No.

>>157319162
Sturgia is the slav/viking Kieven Rus faction with a heavy nordic slant. Vlandia is sort of Swadia & Rhodok ancestor. Khuzait are the Khergit ancestor, so sort of mongolian/turkic/seljuk. Aserai are the Sarranid ancestor, desert people, mamelukes, light infantry etc.

>>157319245
Historical sources, almost exclusively. Even though it's a fictional world, M&B is pretty faithful to history.

>>157319342
>>157319405
Yep.

I wasn't around for Warband so I can't give you a great answer but mostly they're pretty obvious, I think? No idea about the names but our writer Stephen Negus or Armagan probably game up with them.
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>>157319613
Will it be possible to pick up items on the field like swords and keep them after battle?
Will there be any unique items like holy swords or stuff?
What about secrets like that samurai set in native?
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>>157319613
>potato girl in attack on titan is cute
Good taste for a normie.

As agonising the wait is, it's good to see that you guys take your time with Bannerlord and put a lot of effort into polishing it, rather than dishing something out as soon as it's serviceable to make money more quickly.
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>>157319665
Dumb animuposter
End yourself.
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>>157320090
>Sturgia is the slav/viking Kieven Rus faction with a heavy nordic slant.
S L A V P O S T E R
B T F O
A G A I N
G
A
I
N
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>>157319665
>>157319613
Please.
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>>157320090
I was asking about culture inspirations. I know Vlandia is the ancestor of Swadia and the Rhodoks. What I want to know is what is the inspiration for them and the other factions. Did you look at Franks? Normans? Or still just France/Germany.
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>Answer the call of the church and therefore the Lord to wage war against the pagans who threaten Christendom
or
>Sell my services as a badass merc and keep the world in perpetual war so I can be rich
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>>157319681
Pretty sure you can't block with knives in Warband, friend. Right now, we have crush through mechanics more weapons than warband though. I won't say more than that, subject to change etc.

>>157319775
Honestly, I can't remember. Something to do with food consumption maybe.
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>>157320298
The second; Christendom is a literal meme as it exists at basically any point in time after its original conception where it was hilariously impractical.
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>>157320298
stay merc, crusades are a meme
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>>157319787
Cossacks 3 is kind of miserable looking but that has more to do with the art direction rather than any inherent limitations.
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>>157320090
Frank, what do you think about mountb&lade on consoles? Is bannerlord also being made with (some) consoles in mind, like Kingdom Come Deliverance?
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>>157320298

God wants you to be rich; if He didn't, you wouldn't be. Simple as that.
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>>157319613
>I'm surprised you even know about it. Impressed, even.
Eh, thank the chinese for that.
bet you didn't expect that either eh
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>>157320336
Can you make it so that we'll be able to play in Borderless windowed mode ?
Thanks I don't think this was asked the 3 other times
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>>157320149
>Will it be possible to pick up items on the field like swords and keep them after battle?
It isn't right now and there are good reasons but... I kind of hope we find a good solution because this would be great.
>Will there be any unique items like holy swords or stuff?
Can't talk about this really... with the crafting system, all weapons are modular. So perhaps not whole weapons that are unique but maybe some unique parts. Not promising and that's all I'm saying.
>What about secrets like that samurai set in native?
We don't really have proper easter eggs in right now but there will be some. I have a long list of ideas. :)

>>157320256
I'm not really involved in the research process for this, so I can't go into loads of detail. Certainly central and western european cultures from around 7th Century to 11th Century.
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>>157319613
> I can't talk about that at all
can you talk about this book on armagan's shelf?
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>>157320432
>>157320363
>>157320341
Maybe I should become a pagan, they let women fight.
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>>157320917
You learn that at gender studies?
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>>157320806
Don't you know?
Dude is getting inspiration from ending of third game
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>>157320401
It works better than I expected. Don't think you could really compete with PC for high level competitive play but it's great for single player and voice commands are genuinely fun.

BL is exclusively PC focused right now. Consoles are in the back of our minds but I don't think anyone at the company really wants to compromise the experience we offer on PC, which is our main platform and market.

>>157320464
Well wasn't that the OP of the last general? It certainly was a surprise when I first saw it though.

>>157320607
Done already. Actually, I'm pretty sure I requested it... it would have probably gotten in by release anyway but I remember pushing for it.
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>>157320806
>>157320793
Actually, seriously speaking, do you have some kind of deal with MSI to provide ``gaming'' laptops?
I noticed a bunch of them around the office. Are they useful for demoing or something?
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>>157320917
>Jeanne d'Arc
Besides, what point is there in any battle without the comforting reassurance that, should you fall, you'll fall into the embrace of your loving Father, your true liege, to become a part of His eternal Kingdom?
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>>157320806
That's probably one of the artwork books we got in at some point, when we were looking at what other games have done and offered in collectors editions or as extras etc. There are a few around the office from different games.
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>>157321096
>they let women fight
>Jeanne d'Arc
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>>157320793
Why does it takes so long for for you guys to release new infos about the game? Is it really that much of a sekrit?

i'm sure a new screenies/concept arts/anything every a few weeks won't hurt
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>>157321043
It might be that MSI is more readily available in Turkey. Don't think we had any kind of deal but yeah there are a few. My laptop is alienware though and we demoed with a monster laptop at the pc gamer weekender.
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>>157320917
>they let women fight
No
No they didn't 'let' women fight. Women fighting has always been discouraged because of various reasons, many practical - a girl is actually weaker in strength than men despite being more flexible (but flexibility doesn't help as much as raw strength and endurance) and can't scale to the number of remaining men when birthing children. In contrast literally one dude can bring back a tribe as long as there's shittons of girls.
That being said you could be sure that during an actual fight some women might pick up their husband's axe or something and do what little they could. Most of them tended to surrender or just get butchered along with their wagon laager.

>>157321096
Jeanne d'Arc didn't fight for shit she was a figurehead, and falling while attempting to murder others isn't really a good case to make in front of saint peter.
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>>157321034
So there will be no compromise to gameplay and user interface on pc, right?
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>>157321280
To fight in a war isn't necessarily murder. You can fight to defend your home and your family, or out of obligation to your liege—without hating your enemies.
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>>157321034
>Well wasn't that the OP of the last general?
Crap I forgot you said you lurked here lately
Well so much for the surprise I guess
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>>157321246
Also why does Viking Conquest look so much better than Caribbean!?
I was pretty shocked by the detail compared to other Warband engine games, especially in the water shaders.
Was Snowbird not able to make use of that due to the licensing deal they have?
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>>157321137
Which one do you prefer /r/mountandblade or /mbg/?
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>>157321423
Yeah but that's literally not the case during a crusade since you literally take a boat and go really fucking far to kill 'heathens'. Did 'love thy neighbor' specify that the neighbors don't include people of different religions? No it didn't.
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>>157321034
can you craft bows and throwable weapons, or is it just limited to melee weapons?
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>>157321137
Speaking of collector's editions, have you guys put much thought into one yet?
Physical ones, I mean. Stuff like a concept art book Calradian map, or something like that?
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>>157321535
I don't necessarily support the crusades, but the first one was called after the Mohammedans—who had at this point already conquered the entire southern and eastern shores of the Mediterranean, which used to be almost entirely Christian—were making deep inroads into the Eastern Roman Empire, and the empire called for help against them. If I remember correctly, the harassment of Christian pilgrims to their holy sites in Palestine was another grievance.

Then it turned into “while we're here, let's liberate the Holy Land” Given all the bloodshed that entailed, I have my doubts it was a very Christian thing to do, but on the other hand we do see that Islam suffocated Christendom in the region, so it might have been a good thing had the Crusades succeeded in the long run.
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>>157321246
Will it be possible to mod in new equipment slots?
Is character export/import still going to be that easy?
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>>157321246
It's just weird because "gaming" laptop is so widely accepted as being a meme that it's pretty jarring seeing them in a professional context.
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>>157321246
Will there be a Warband remake on Bannerlord engine?
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what the fuck is gekonewer
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>>157322291
You know a mod will make that
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>>157322395
a mod about white people in japan
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what is the best mod out there desu
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>>157322409
>letting go of a potential uber selling DLC
Shiggy diggy, taleworlds
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>>157322619
You know NW was a greatly popular mod before anyone made a DLC out of it, right?
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>>157258554
>good
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>>157321246
Is upstab for thrusting polearms in? If not is there something else in place to make them more useful especially in the hands of the AI?
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>>157321926
to be fair about suffocation, up until the late periods of the ottoman empire there were still vast numbers of christians in egypt, iraq, syria, palestine and there are still sizable minorities.
When medieval christians took over an area, generally all heretics/heatens would be completely purged unless they provided valuable banking services
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>>157321371
Right

>>157321449
I lurk on here almost always actually. Don't read everything just skim and occasionally ctrl + f my name. Standard stuff.

>>157321456
Hmm I don't know! They were both externally developed... we don't really have hardly anything to do with Caribbean. VC we were more involved but even then we didn't have anything like a line producer controlling the project. Generally, we accept technical requests from them, if they're workable and give them pretty much free reign to do their own thing.

>>157321591
Just melee right now.

>>157321613
We'd love to do it but it's genuinely bloody hard.

>>157322108
Not sure about either of these. Possibly not to the first one.

>>157322268
They're quite common as far as I know. I certainly see other companies using them at events.

>>157322291
Probably not by us.

>>157322912
Mount & Musket! I went to their first big event and modelled the shako that was pretty much omnipresent in the mod (in different forms).
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>>157323403
Do you ctrl-f "ginger" just to be safe?
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>>157323125
Upstab is in but not always for all polearms... won't reveal details.
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>>157323554
this is huge
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>>157323543
kek
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>>157323543
"ginge" covers it
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>>157323554
>Upstab is in
BANNERLORD CONFIRMED GOTY 2019
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>>157323403
is there going to be heraldic armor and horses in bannerlord? I figure it's a little bit out of period but the heraldic system in warband was pretty neat
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>>157323403
Can I mount a cow?
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>>157323554
christ, does this mean spears are finally going to be the primary infantry weapons that they really were?
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>>157323729
Actually we don't right now... maybe we will I'm not sure.

Anyway it's been like two and a half hours. Thanks all and see you again sometime!
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>>157323913
Thank you based Frank
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>>157323913
Based
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>>157323913
thanks fampai you did good
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>>157323913
Thanks for coming by
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>You know realize that Frank is gone for another 4 months
>You know notice that the symptoms of NoBannerlord Syndrome are coming back
>You know realize that N E V E R E V E R
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>>157324235
Night gathers, and my watch begins.
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>>157324235
he says he still lurks all the time, just won't trip QA, which is fair enough

if anything, we can simply say the key word "ginge" to summon him as his bat signal
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>>157324235
>know

Also, with Han Hun being basically confirmed(and therefore leading the way to a proper rotk mod), whats the estimated date of DLC release, judging from early VC leaks?
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>>157323913
Thanks for coming, pham.
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>>157323554
BASED MEME ESPORTS MAN
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>>157320090
>Sturgia is the slav/viking Kieven Rus faction with a heavy nordic slant.
Don't the slavfags get tired of being perpetually B T F O?
Might as well leave /mbg/ if you're a slavaboo, Based Frank will only continue to crush your dreams.
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Any news on Butterlord?
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>>157323554
oh shit
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>>157324843
Nothing new yet man
You will have to wait for next AMA or blog
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>>157324723
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Why can't these idiots hold a fucking formation?
And why the fuck is the mod dev posting some new building textures instead of fixing this shit, and the other 9943582 issues with L'aigle?
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>>157324908
Aw shit.

I hope they will hold the word and give us beta in winter.
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>>157324843
Dunno, hopefully they'll do another AmA here. It's been such a long time since the last
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>>157324843
>>157324908
>>157325152
Haha oh wow.

I made this post before reading a thread. Idiot.
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>>157325028
I dunno but those buildings look really nice
Docm is a professional artist but I imagine he doesn't care much for gameplay or anything involving coding
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>wake up
>Frank leaves just as I load the thread

JUST
U
S
T
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>>157325215
>I made this post before reading a thread. Idiot.
You talking about yourself of course?
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>>157325353
Yes
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>>157325290
He should get a couple of more people to join in then. There are too many mods who suffered from one-true-dev syndrome.
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docm should just get a coder to fix all the issues with his mod
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>>157325215
At least you got here in time to read the thread, unlike some people who won't. Most of the important questions got asked anyway.
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>>157325446
not gonna lie that looks really fucking beautiful
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>>157325290
Too bad the cities look like shit.
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>>157323913
will there be quick time events? such as catching throwing a javelin & throwing it back, parrying and deflecting an arrow off your shield, chambering an attack & insta-killing the enemy?
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>>157325446
if it just had all the planned factions I wouldn't really care about the unfinished tournaments and whatever
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>>157325579
>>157325446
I take this back, that looks really good.
Though I doubt the rest of the scene does
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>>157325626
He's gone nigga
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>>157325503
Well do we know how will be Banner lord distributed? Warband was sold in physical copies, right?
I wanted to ask.
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Okay guys l'm planning on beating blood and steel, any tips or advice ?
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>>157325446
And someone to do a proper fucking world map that isn't a huge pizza. Like the biggest fucking issue with many mods is the huge flat map, that not only is completely uninteresting gameplay/tactics wise, but also fucks with the AI's tactics and the war mechanics.

AD1257 has this issue. The huge flat maps makes wars a ridiculously tedious bullshit without any real progress ever, due to only one marshall effectively sieging some random village for the AI, with other vassals running around like headless chickens. Mapa are open enough to support four marshalls per faction.

In native/floris there's good pushing due to the chokepoints and general terrain of the map. And that's where many mods fail utterly in.
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>>157325914
Cannoneers. Lots of Cannoneers.
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>>157251318
I'm still kinda impressed with the visuals. You don't see it often that devs mix shitty textures with great visual effects and post processing. Still not optimistic about the optimization though...
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>>157325914
was there hakkapeliittas on B&S
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>>157310425
>google search it
>best definition is "tree"

ok
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For building a character around, crossbows or bows?
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>>157326743

Crossbows if you want to do shit besides ranged, bow otherwise
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>>157326743
it really doesn't matter which one you pick, they're both bretty gud

if your character is more melee-based I recommend crossbows since you can just have it on as a secondary weapon with no further skill requirements, compared to bows where you basically have to train Power Draw if you want it to be decent and Horse Archery if you want to do it mounted
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>>157324723
I don't understand anon.

Kievan Rus were slavs conquered and ruled by Varangians.

It makes somehow sense.
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>>157326743
you need to invest into power draw and horse archery if you want the bows to be efficient

But bows become pretty op as fuck later on
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>>157326743
muskets
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>>157325942

>>157179419

Actually I'm tempted to scrap my progress and start anew, using real-world heightmaps as a basis for a more realistic landscape.
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What the actual fuck? Th world map and basically everything besides the city textures are a complete mess.
This shit even had a message in the beginning asking me if I'm tired of playing samurai and saying something about the "power of chinese modders" ....
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>>157306886
Yeah I see it. Either that or they're a really slim dude.
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How many modules do you have right now /mbg/?
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>>157327574
like 3 or 4 my dude
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>>157327517
chinamods?
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>>157327517
what mod
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>>157323913
See ya
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>>157323554
>Upstab is in
I came
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>>157327648
>>157327676
http://www.moddb.com/mods/romance-of-the-three-kingdoms-dynasty-warriors/downloads/romance-of-the-three-kingdomsfan-make

Its apparently a """redone""" version of the existing rotk mod. Don't bother, its shit.
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>>157323554
...why do we care? what is upstab?
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>>157327979
>being this much of a newfag
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>>157327949
>tfw no good ROTK mod
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>>157327979
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>>157327979
>what is upstab?
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>>157327979
>what is upstab?

I want reddit and /v/ to leave.
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>>157328073
>no true scotsman
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>>157327949
wow that mod looks really bad
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>>157328197
I don't think you know what that means.
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>>157328262
:^)
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>>157328118
why does this make longspears good infantry weapons again?
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>>157328118
How is this different from normal stab?
Can you stab over soldiers in first line?
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>>157328217
It's worse
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>>157328339
you can stab ppl in the head
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>>157328339
yes

it makes the rhodok even stronger
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>>157323753
You can, but it's degenerate.
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>>157323913
leave if youre gay
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>>157328363

Yes. It allows you to stab "through" teammates. It's god-tier in sieges
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>>157328446
>but it's degenerate.

but fapping to centaurs isn't?

never change, /mbg/
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>>157328482
That sounds pretty gud.
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>>157328554

It's great
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>>157323554
>>157323913
You da MVP
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>tfw no gangs of glasgow for warband
>tfw no 1866 for warband
>tfw no wedding dance for warband
>tfw no tripartition for warband
>tfw no RPGmod, Storymod, Fantasymod or Fishmod for warband
>tfw most of the warband mods won't be ported to bannerlord
so many mods lost in the passage of time
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>>157325503
I screened some of them.
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>>157328626
Man Butterlord is shaping better and better every time I hear news.

It's already miles better then I thought it will be.
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>>157325736
http://archive.is/zDl5L
http://archive.is/fXgGd
http://archive.is/0KynN
Considering these I guess we're pretty much confirmed to get a steam release at the very least
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>>157329058
Yeah but steam is shit.
I want physical copy. Not necessary some fancy stuff, but something I will put under my bed for good dreams.
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>>157328838
>tfw no gangs of glasgow for warband

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6FfFfL7zGo
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>>157328838
>tfw no Hegemony 268 B.C
>tfw no Peloponnesian War
>tfw no Schattenlander into the Darklands
>tfw no meso american mod
>tfw no Guardian's Party
>tfw no Hero and Blade
>tfw no Timeless Kingdoms
>>
>>157329234
>>157328838
>tfw no good rotk
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>I was finally here to ask Ginger Cunt some questions

Good day today, lads.
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>>157328838
Fishmod was never a real thing
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>>157329432
>>I was finally here to ask Ginge Cunt some questions

ftfy
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>>157329535
Thank you, fampai.
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>>157329489
Fishmod?
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>>157329191
Well this time they're not under an editor, so distributing physical copies might be a bit more problematic
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>>157329732
Fishmod.
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>>157276320
That's a big warband.
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>>157329904
for you
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>>157330071
Was getting besieged a part of your plan?
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>>157330239
of coursh!
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>>157330316
Well congratulation! We're besieging Veluca! Now what's the next step of your master plan?
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>>157329489
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6006.0.html
newfie detected
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>>157328838
I was reading an old 1866 thread the other day where people were arguing against a Warband port because it wouldn't be fair to people with toasters that can't run Warband.

At least most of their assets went to use with GABRILDURO
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Is Rhodok propaganda poster anon here? Can you make an edit for this?
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>>157326867
I actually do want to primarily use ranged weapons, never done it before seems like it would be fun (in 1257)
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>>157330503
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=100066.0
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>go out
>frank confirms upstab for bannerlord
my job is done
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>>157327517
>"power of chinese modders"
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>>157330593
>people were arguing against a Warband port because it wouldn't be fair to people with toasters
Jesus what a bunch of idiots.
>>
I've seen it pop up on here before, but what's the wedding dance mod? What makes it so special? From the feature page it doesn't really seem much.
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>>157330651
not the Rhodok poster, but I tried
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>>157326743
If you want to build a ranged character, bow. Crossbow is just a ranged option that doesn't require a heavy skill point investment.
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>>157331801
The precursor to dickplomacy
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>>157333470
Don't crossbows get better armor penetration, or something?
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>>157313946
>Also, I should mention that, for EA/beta MP is likely to be available some time before SP
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>>157333707
Crossbows just do higher damage and are more accurate
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>>157333798
It was like that for WB too
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>>157333707
Not in any significant degree compared to power draw and the speed of the bow. Not to mention that all the crossbows you can use on horseback are pretty shit.
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>>157323913
FUCK WHY DID I MISS IT, I ACTUALLY HAD QUESTIONS.
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>>157334453
base missile speed is still higher and crossbows can pierce shields
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>1257
>take blackman lands because wealthy
>woops own kingdom
>assign the nobles from the invite nobles
>give them castles but see no army of them

Did something break I know it can't be the noble policy because I have angry spaniards/emirates and without any lords I'm fucked pretty much.
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>>157335361
The worst shields, yes
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>nobody mentions that crossbows are slow as shit and leave you temporarily vulnerable

It's like you don't even want a medieval headshot machine
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>>157334097
Well that would have made a lot more sense for WB since the earliest iteration's singleplayer would be almost identical to what was already out with original M&B and MP was the big addition. Bannerlord SP matters more than Bannerlord MP though. M&B is a primarily SP game that also has MP, not the other way around.
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>>157336513
>and leave you temporarily vulnerable
reloading protects you though
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>>157335540
>blackman lands
hwat?
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>>157336619
Maranids or what ever. Am I fucked though?
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>>157337347
when you say see no army, do you mean that they are not on the map at all, or that they are running around without any troops?
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>>157337542
Not on the map at all.
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>>157337579
wait for a week, sometimes it takes them a while to spawn properly as lords
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>>157338567
Alright thanks.

>>157336513
So how far could a crossbow shoot back in the day?
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>>157338821
Well they didn't have compound bows or those mechanical advantage handle things we have today, and also the bow itself had to be smaller than a regular bow would be. So probably a decent distance but not as far as a large bow.
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>>157327979
not much stab, what's up with you?
>>
Fighting fire with fire only results in a bigger fire
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>>157336550
And? The MP beta is still prety important to root out bugs and get it right in terms of field balance. MP betas for SP gams is nothing new. Those things aren't mutually exlusive.
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And so it begins
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>>157340458
>>157340908
bls resbond>>157299938
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>>157334453
So for my purposes of a footman archer, both are a solid choice?
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>>157341535
if you're on foot, yeah a c'bow might be better since you can put the stat points into ironflesh and power strike more instead of power draw/horse archery

but if you're mounted, definitely go with a bow, it's not even a question
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>>157341063
Hard to say
Depends on what you consider fun, each faction has some special stuff in terms of units
For example, Erathia has the angels who can resurrect the death, I think the zealots are like snipers too with their magic
Avlee has mad archers and the unicors/pegasus are OP as fuck
Eofol is also among the most OP since it has the Devils which can teleport and explode where they appear, adding to that they got a nasty range unit and cerberus
Krewlod is eh, never tried them
Deyja is pretty crazy since the Liches and Power Liches can summon undead form the death and got a nasty staff that can destroy armies if there is enough liches, the ghost dragon is strong too and the vampire is pretty cool
Tatalia has the gorgons which are stornk as fuck
Nighon has shit low tier troops but the medusas can petrify enemies at close range, the beholders are mad good at range and they got dragons
Bracada is retardly OP, more than the others because they got shit like Titans and giants and wizards
Shit is top
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>>157341676
>put the stat points into ironflesh
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>>157342635
there's literally nothing wrong with this as long as they're extra points that would have otherwise gone unspent since power strike and is already maxed

don't tell me you use it on an INT skill
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>>157343010
>uga duga ironflesh power strike
How do you strtards even breathe
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>>157343174

Because Iron Flesh turns that 75 damage javelin strike into a survivable flesh wound
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How can I make money fast in the Medieval Conquests mod?
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>>157342635
I bet you don't even max out Athletics.
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>>157343606
>investing in AGI when you can pump pure STR to survive all those 900 damage javelins
>>
canceranon here. I'm happy to hear development is going on allright.

If Frank is still here, do you think there is a chance you guys might do a release like the original M&B (which was pretty much EA)?
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>>157344002
They've already confirmed that. Original plan was EA at the end of this year. Now it seems more like EA in Q1 or Q2 2017.
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>>157344648
That's pretty bad news but i'll take that over none.
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>>157253351
no
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>>157341676
>>157342635
>>157343010
>>157343174
>>157343473
>>157343606

>tfw to smart to invest in anything but INT
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>>157330651
rushed this one, sorry that it looks awful

i'll be picking up on the other posters
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why do native male faces look so good but female faces look like ass

were women just plain uglier back in the medieval ages?
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>>157344648
They said there's a surprise next week though.
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>>157345094
This is a true work of art. Even arming the Swadian horsefucker with a sword is a nice touch.
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>>157346871
>we're
3DPD is a thing. Men have naturally healthier skin (due to thickness) even ignoring non- use of suffocating clown makeup. Men also have longer eyelashes and so forth.
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>>157347606
>were
I fucking hate my phone sometimes
>>
I've only ever played this vanilla, Warband I mean, it's my most played game on steam.

Someone sell me into playing mods. What are some awesome scenario mods and shit? I love the gameplay and don't really mind if nothing is actually changed about the gameplay, roleplaying is more important to me.
>>
So any modders out there willing to import troop customization for player kingdoms into dickplomacy like in Nova Aetus?
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You know what would be cool

A gundam mod
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>>157340908
>>157340458
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>>157348509
just try it out bro, you've got nothing to lose since it's free

read the pastebin on mods you might be interested in
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>>157348579
I can't figure out a way to implement this without it being ridiculous

then again if you had asked me the same thing about CoMM and necromancy I'd have said the same thing
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>>157348509
check out gekokujo and blood and steel, they're cool
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I have never played native, only mods

Am I a bad person
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>>157349426
You're such a naughty boy.
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>>157349426
Yes
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>>157349426
I've only played classic mount & blade
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>>157348669
Nice. Thanks
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>>157349426

I don't even own any version of mount and blade, I just like having people to talk to.
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>>157349916
I laughed
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>>157299938
>Joining factions in CoMM
I don't think that's how you're supposed to play, really.

CoMM is the type of mod where you don't need to join a faction to become powerful and start making your own kingdom later on. You can make alot of money with a good enough army from farming monster money stockpiles and Libraries and Magic Academies allow you to quickly making your character into a One-Man-Army.

The truth is I don't think the mod is really that balanced, and I think it needs alot of work (even as fun as it is now).
I mostly always go necromancer and murder everyone else with an army of Power Liches, who are incredibly powerful against non-undead armies.
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>>157349974

I really don't. /mbg/ is just one of the friendliest, least cancerous generals on the entire board. You're all swell people.
>>
>>157350478
Where do you think you'll go after Bannerlord's released?
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>>157316264
>An arquebusier could carry more ammunition and powder than a crossbowman or longbowman could with bolts or arrows.
So did archers only carry three arrows with them or is Wikipedia full of shit again?
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>>157350745

I don't think I have to worry about that any time soon :^)
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>>157350139
Fighting undead with undead is nightmare tier
This siege lasted nearly 20 minutes with me nuking hordes of zombies.
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>>157350916
shot and powder sure, but those are premade shots
you could carry around way more bullets and powder because it hardly takes up room in comparison to arrows, but those premade charges are different since they're done beforehand and carried on a strap that goes over the shoulder and around the waist
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>>157350916
Thank you for answering my post, because it made me noticed I worded it wrong.
By "those" I meant the powder horns used in the military, not the one in the picture
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>>157351076
Did you tried walking up to them and using AoE attacks?
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>>157346871
Well yeah, but there are different standards. A woman's face can't look feminine without being attractive, but a male face can look masculine even if he's uglier than sin.
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>>157350139
>>157352065

someone should make a King Harlous edit where it says "GOOD LUCK I'M BEHIND 7000 KNIGHTS" or something

or maybe rhodokposter will make a rhodok twist to it
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>Nords - Infantry
>Swadians - Cavalry
>Rhodoks - Crossbowmen
>Vaegirs - Archers
>Sarranids - ???
>Khergits - ???
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>>157350139
The source material to CoMM isn't that balanced either. Necromancy was always bullshit. The mod feels pretty faithful though
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>>157352065
Obviously, problem with that is that I should't be doing such thing near my troops, and second, the range of Infermo doesn't really mean I will reach the liches resurrecting shit
I had to use 30 liches myself to contain the undead horde with another undead horde then I nuked it from behind
I need to start grabbing bone dragons
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>>157352624

Sarranids are good at taking prisoners
Khergits have good pure steppe waifus
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>>157352624
sarranids are cav
khergits are cav
>>
Any gore mod and can I just slap it into any mod?
>>
>>157352624
Sarranids are Cav/Infantry in the sense that unmounted mamlukes are pretty dank

Khergits are undoubtedly Horse Archers
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>>157251318
>65 v 152, this shouldn't be too terrible
>10 minutes later
>ALRIGHT 1 V 57 IT'S GONNA BE AN UPHILL BATTLE!
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>>157353568

Time to retreat. I don't like going any higher than 1v30
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>>157353568
you fucked up, my man
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>>157349916
>this entire caht
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>>157353672
>>157353769
I whittled 'em down to 40 with hit and run tactics before they got me. Fuck archers.
>>
damn, new artifact
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>>157350478
I can attest to this.

I used to regular a general that-which-will-not-be-named and in retrospect it was one of the shittiest shitholes I can imagine

Honestly it's amazing how different this general is, it was like moving from a shitty city shithole to a nice suburban neighborhood

We even had a minimally meme-free AMA with a fucking bannerlord dev today, it's simply fantastic
>>
>>157354132
>Dev

Frank is just a community manager, not a dev.
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>>157354181
oh, my bad
>>
I'm fucking bogged down at my little village and can't leave because I got six armies (scratch one) from two factions that are circling me like sharks and waiting for me to leave. They refuse to engage and it's pissing me off.

>>157354242
Belgaru's a bitch. Do it.
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>>157354242
Gross, those women need to cover up and have some self respect.
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>>157354242

Woah. This game rules
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Is Silverstag good yet?
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>>157354515
I'll let them know you think they're sloots
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>>157355334
It's good
>>
Why am I not getting rent from my fief? It's not destroyed or anything and its prosperity is at Poor. Is it because I'm building a Watch Tower? I built the Mill and was still getting rent from it while it was under construction, though.
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>>157354132
>in retrospect
don't worry, we all know about /scg/
>>
>don't play for a long time
>load my last save
>it's night time
>go to nearest town
>bandit ambush
>mfw

jesus christ this game
>>
>>157356101
>Queen Khan

wut
>>
>>157353967
better not go up against horse pistoleers :^)))))))))))
>>
>>157358707
Shit, when I play F&S I almost strictly use heavy Polish cavalry with pistols set to fire.
>>
Are there any shortcuts for these spells in CoMM? The ones that actually need to be aimed are kind of hard when there's a massive book on your screen.
Also, should I just be hoarding up recruits and throwing my army at all the loot and xp things on the map?
>>
>>157356101
>>157354242
Dem warrior women look like lesbians.

So I guess like really good warrior women.
>>
>>157359017
>Are there any shortcuts for these spells in CoMM?
Not that I know of, but there should be.

>The ones that actually need to be aimed are kind of hard when there's a massive book on your screen.
I'm not sure if that was the idea of themodders (which I doubt) but it helps to balance the fact that after you start steamrolling Libraries of Enlightenment and your stats start going up like crazy you can basically spam an indefinite amount of spells until the enemy warband is dead.

>Also, should I just be hoarding up recruits and throwing my army at all the loot and xp things on the map?
Yeah, why not. It's pretty hard to find an bandits who don't out run you with a big enough army and that don't completely obliterate you (like giant/titan parties), so the main source of money and EXP should be dungeons.
>>
>>157359534
I'm going full necromancer and my zombie troops are climbing up the upgrade ladder like mad, I'm also levelling a fuckload. It's so weird but it's fun.
Also, is basically every staff this AOE cloud thing?
>>
>get this game yesterday because of all the stuff I've read about it
>start game
>every enemy bandit kills me in two hits with any melee weapon
>troops all die in one hit
>health takes an eternity to recover
>every enemy bandit with a bow one shots me for 60 feet away

Boy, bottle-necking the player into mandatory sword n' board is great design.
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>>157359171
lesbos are the best at war
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>>157359784
if you are so bad just turn on 1/4 damage crybabby
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>>157359784
Sword&Board is the easy mode though. Just get a bunch of recruits and start slamming them against bandits until the living ones are high tier, and either get medical skills or get a companion with medical skills.
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>>157359784
maybe you could be less shit with melee
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what the fug
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>Attack gold pile
>Accidentally click leave instead of take loot
FUCK
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>>157359784
This is one of those games where the early game part is a slog. Do guild and noble quests to level up your character, buy a horse as soon as possible and then trade until you can afford a large group of meatshields, and stay away from horsefuckers.
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>>157352371

gonna make another version of this later
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Can javelin/hatchet throwers make a suitable archer substitute?
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I installed the latest Dickplomacy but the big cities are all messed up.
Am i fucking something up during the installation or some shit?
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>>157359723
I don't think so. The Lich/Necromancer AoE damage only seems to affect living troops, and only damages undead who are directly hit by the missile.
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>>157360935
well the role is different
really warband can't do dedicated skirmishers, since that involves something similar to horse archers where they harass the enemy by running around chucking javs at them and the enemy infantry can't catch them
best you can do is just have good infantry that either can spawn with throwing weapons or guaranteed spawn with ranged weapons but you have to change them to infantry in game
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>>157360525
KEK pefect
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>>157360525
looks good, but do you think you could it to Sharpshooters instead of xbowmen? I think Sharpshooters would be much more intimidating
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>Own half the map
>All my lords are good natured and at 100 relation
>Just waiting for someone to declare war on me so I can roll them
>Been waiting for like 200 days now

Making my own kingdom was a mistake I miss being able to fight people and do sieges
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>>157361494
attack them then you dip
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>>157360374
So the way to play this game is to just recruit so many low tier troops that you just swamp the enemies to death
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>>157360967
bls help
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>>157361546

My guy said it'd piss everyone off because I'm too warlike
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>>157361550
what?

don't listen to that memer

git gud and solo small groups of sea raiders, they give ultra-dank loot in the beginning of the game that you can wear and sell

find heroes in taverns and recruit them since they can't be killed and be trained just like your character, so you can make them into fellow killing machines

once you have a compatible set of heroes (some heroes like others some don't), have good armor, and have dyeworks in every town to secure bank THEN you can start mass-recruiting babbies and powertrain them to armies for lord battles and sieges n shit
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>>157360967
i can't help you but i still want to tell you that your gif is hilarious and i saved it
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>>157361209
what happens if they spawn with just throwing weapons?
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>>157361686

The dude literally can't play without sword'n'board and you're telling him to go solo gangs of sea raiders
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>>157361801
I told him to git gud though senpai

maybe he can practice manual blocking at arenas or training camps or some shit
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>playing multiplayer
>quit game because I get stuck outside of the map
>go to join again
>server list empty
>restart game, doesn't work
>restart steam, doesn't work
>restart computer, doesn't work
>spend an hour looking for solutions online, nothing works

Is this just me, or are any of you experiencing this as well?
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>>157360525

here's the other version

>>157361298

i think crossbowmen has a better ring to it
[spoiler[muh xbow[/spoiler]
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>>157362240
eh fair enough, I already saved it anyways

you're doing god's work, rhodokposter and I sincerely appreciate it

t. fellow supporter of the glorious Rhodok Republic
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>>157361686
Don't know how you accomplish anything in this game on standard difficulty. The only thing I can do is grind looters, I'm already Level 10, and I can't take a hit worth shit. Tournaments are impossible because everything from everyone kills me in two hits no matter what, and team AI in these tournaments is extremely fucking stupid. I'd rather just drop the game than turn the difficulty down.
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>>157356101
>>157356101
Amazonmodguy when do you expect your mod to be ready?
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>>157361794
what do you mean, if they only had throwing weapons in their inventory? then they'd sometimes spawn with thrown weapons and have nothing to melee with in cqc, other times they'd just spawn with fists
if you flag them with the ranged flag then that troop will always spawn with a ranged weapon
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>>157362364

You kill them in two hits, as well

Also for tournaments, command your dudes. Order them to just sit and stay at the beginning so they don't split up and go get fucked up, then you get swamped by half a dozen enemies at once. Commanding makes winning tournaments ez as shit.
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>>157362364
stop being shit
>and team AI in these tournaments is extremely fucking stupid
you can use commands in tournaments you know
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>>157362364
You can order the AI on your team in tourneys like they're your own troops.
And basically, you just get better and the combat and accept that you're not some dynasty warriors PC who can slaughter ten people per swing.
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>>157362240
fucking hell that's embarrassing, getting really sleep deprived, going to bed now
>>157362319
glory to Rhodok Republic
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>>157362364
don't give up anon, it's just part of the challenge, such was truly the life of a peasant back in the day

but keep grinding looters until you level up enough power strike and hopefully power draw since mounted horse archery is OP as fug

like I said, find heroes, do quests, buy dyeworks, and train some recruits if you want to (but not a lot since human wave strategy doesn't work very well)

remember your rage, and once you rise above the realm of peasantry and ascend into glorious nobiltiy, you will look back at all your crushed enemies in true awe
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Can one of you fat virgin retards take half a second out of your night and see if you get a multiplayer list? >>157362158
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What's the best way to create your own faction?
I know you need high renown + right to rule, but how much?
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God fucking damn it
I never knew stats were capped at 63
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>>157362789
>being an asshole about it

I was going to do it but fuck you instead
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>>157362789
Just checked, not getting one either
Lots of people on steam saying it too
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>>157362612
goodnight anon
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>>157362881
>he can't handle the banter
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>>157362893
Thanks guy
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>>157363038
>that
>banter
dumb american
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>>157363038
m8 that wasn't even banter, you were just being a sad cunt
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>>157362792
20+ RTR, not sure about renown
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>>157362502
Before Bannerlord
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>>157363875
Should I join a faction before?
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>>157363948
yes

fighting and releasing lords is a great way to gain relation with them so they can join you later, plus it helps let you know which lords are good-natured/honorable

you also get to taste lord battles and sieges

overall it's a bretty good deal

although the same could be said of being a mercenary
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>>157362857
Yeah, that's why I've been pretty careful of not spending all of my Skill Points in skills my companions could be doing otherwise and trying to get all of the artifacts and books to better manage the skill points I have.

Do you still get skill points from Libraries, Arenas and Magic Schools even if you don't get any more intelligence points?
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>>157362857
>>157364158
y'all look like some real spooky motherfuckers
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>>157363948
It's definitely the easier way, yeah.
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>>157364158
>not named Bohnee t' Pik
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>lady I was going to visit marries someone else

fucking slut
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>>157364158
Arena's won't give me points and I haven't seen a library in days, doubt it would give me anything
I guess my best chance is hte books.
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>>157364387
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is necromanceranon going to release his mod on halloween eve?

that would be really fitting and super spooky
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>try to successfully trade
>places dont produce enough goods to make it profitable
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Why won't you let me access your inventory, you transgendered fuck.
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>>157365184
what the actual fuck am I reading

mod?
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I JUST WANTED TO SHITPOST ON BATTLE SERVER
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>157362364
If you turn on auto couched lance you will win every battle no problem
that's how we did it, back in the day

another good trick is to get a bow or crossbow, ride into range of some shitty melee footslogger unit, headshot them, and ride away. you don't take a horse archery penalty when you're stopped, think of it as tank combat
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>>157365389
>horned helmet
either comm or warsword
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>>157365389
It's CoMM.

The thing is that almost all of the companions are ripped straight from Native, and many of them don't have their own personal backstories.

The one in there is Matheld's backstory because modders simply changed Matheld's appearance and name for their character's, not bothering to change a lot of dialogues and text to fit with the setting, or anything else.
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>>157365827
>Deshavi is now lizardkin

that is my fetish anon
>>
After a couple months absence, what is CoMM?
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>>157365930
Batshit, half finished fantasy mod with a lot of crazy magic and stuff.
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>>157365827
this is pretty much what happens with every companion and pretender, it's either completely unchanged or slightly altered
>>157365930
might and magic mod, currently has the best magic system of any mod, pretty fun
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>>157366179
better magic system than Phantasy?
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>>157366258
yep
you can be a proper necromancer, it's mint
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>>157366431
Necromancy is OP as all fuck by the way
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>>157366179
>>157366581
I've got no interest in being a skellie with skellie friends.
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>>157367207
but the skeleton inside you does
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>>157367207
What, do skeletons get under your skin?
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>>157366258
>>157366431
EH.

I don't know, Phantasy does a lot of thing better than CoMM does and is much more balanced IMO, but there's no denying that CoMM's system is much complex.

In CoMM you can only get new undead troops by recruiting them from undead cities & villages. You can use a spell during a battle that will actually raise the slain as undead, but these troops won't appear in your party post-battle. Also, the undead that you create will have no connection to the kind of troop they were before, so you might raise a human zombie from a slain Ghost Dragon. Yeah.

In Phantasy you cannot raise new troops during a battle, but they are raised automatically after a battle depending in your necromancy skill and the size of the battle.

Phantasy does good things like setting a regenerating mana bar that limits the amount of spells you can cast, but I cannot deny how fun it is to decimate entire armies just with spells in CoMM.

Phantasy also has this thing I hate where it eliminates all of your magic bonuses if you're using a single piece of armor, and it forces you to put on your standard robe and wizard hat, which I despise.
I want to play a battlemage, dammit!

>>157367207
You can be any race you want and still specialize in necromancy in both games.
Or be a lich and recruit living troops.
Or simply not delve into necromancy at all.
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>>157367658
>it eliminates all of your magic bonuses if you're using a single piece of armor, and it forces you to put on your standard robe and wizard hat

seriously why do games do this, can they at least not make special battlemage armor?

MAGES DO NOT HAVE TO BE SQUISHY TO BE BALANCED
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>spend 2 irl days getting shit ready for a big dramatic showdown with the last remaining faction - the nords
>bumping up defenses in all 13 of my cities
>finally make my move
>find ragnar's group of 1000 and crush it with 150 swadian knights
>expect reports of looting and shit
>nothing
>look around the map
>ragnar gave himself literally every single fucking castle and town that was under nordic rule
Did I seriously crush any possibility of defeat back there?
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>>157367658
Well, you can also use resurrect to bring back troops as they were, though that only works on your own.
Do they stay wounded/dead after the battle though?
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>>157368113
>Well, you can also use resurrect to bring back troops as they were, though that only works on your own.
No, I can tell you that it also revives enemy units as your own, so you can use Archangels or Ogres during a battle if you defeat those.
>Do they stay wounded/dead after the battle though?
No, I think they are dead for good.
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>>157368005
you did it champ

you saved Calradia from the Nordic menace
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Swadia, Rh*doks or Sandniggers?
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>>157370065
RHODOKS
H
O
D
O
K
S
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>>157368005
What happened to all of his lords? Did he greedy fuck indicted everyone?
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>>157370656
Going through the list, yes.

Literally anyone who hasn't left the realm at this point is on my side except Ragnar. All Jarls have "left the realm."
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>going down the list

>Blood and steel


It's always sad to me in any game to see a mod straight up ded.
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>>157371218

Fucking NORDS
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>>157367978
>MAGES DO NOT HAVE TO BE SQUISHY TO BE BALANCED
I'm pretty sure the first game to distinguish between the mage / rogue / warrior trio were ttrpgs
Literally find any old ttrpg where mages do not obsolete everyone else.
At level 1 both warrior and mage die to angry cats
At level 20, warriors swing a sword faster while mages twiddle their thumbs and throw you into orbit or kill bosses by speaking one (1) word or wish upon a star and actually get what they want.
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>>157370065
Sarranids just to spite you
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>>157373734
This is not the place to complain about D&D.
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>>157373734
>swing a sword
Thats the problem with high level warriors right there. They need to expand their martial tools.

But really in P&P RPGs the emphasis is Roleplaying not combat simulator. And in combat simulator CRPGs with D&D's ruleset the only reason why Wizards are viable for idiots is due to how idiotically lenient they tend to make resting.
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>>157373734
Leveling should have been reworked in CRPGs ages ago.
It's a system that works when most players don't progress beyond level 7, not when you can gain three levels in one hour and end up level 32 after a week.
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>>157374134
I'm not complaining.

>>157374173
I don't see how any martial tool short of fucking Excalibur will help you against power word kill or pin to the sky.

>>157374181
I think it has to do with what game you're playing and what it's going for really
I mean something like Divinity OS actually makes the ttrpg system work fine and then you've got games where you're really not supposed to be balanced and are supposed to pull off musou tier shit against commoners.
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>>157374181
The problem with Warriors and Wizards in CRPGs is not linear vs exponential growth but the retarded rest system in the most popular CRPGs (which tend to be Infinity Engine games)

There is something fundamentally wrong with being able to exhaust an enemy mage's spellbook by repeatedly resting for 8 hours so exhaust their spellbook. That and with buffs Warriors tend to be extremely competent. Improved hasted warriors with adequate protections can wipe entire dungeons in Baldur's Gate within minutes and not need to lame out the game with in dungeon resting or wish scumming.
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>>157374448
Vancian Magic was never intended to literally be once-a-day anyway, the entire point was an obviously contrived attempt to balance mages.
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>>157374324
>I'm not complaining.
Sure you're not. Then, this is not the place to expound on the malignant influences D&D has had on media despite (or rather, because of) its originating nature.

>>157374173
>But really in P&P RPGs the emphasis is Roleplaying not combat simulator.
It Depends.

>>157374181
The issue becomes giving someone a clear sense of progression (and therefore motivation) in a video game, which are famous for short attention spans. "Levels" are a convenient, if mishandled, tool.
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>Take Shariz
>First week's tariffs alone come to over 400,000

wew
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>>157374324
>I don't see how any martial tool short of fucking Excalibur will help you against power word kill or pin to the sky.
Power Word kill can be evaded by simply having high HP... Which Warriors tend to have.

And for Pin to the Sky:
>What are saving throws
>What are ceilings
>What are hooks, harpoons, ropes (and other such tools)
>What is magical flight (which is not unfeasible for a high level warrior to have via enchanted equipment)

I would think someone fellating Wizards would have something resembling an imagination.
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>>157374654
How long was it not enfeoffed?
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>>157374598
>literally 0 fun allowed
Man fine have it your way
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>>157374654
noice

whatcha gonna do with all that dough laddie
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>>157374695
I'm also lurking /tg/ right now
I'm trying to compartmentalize man
I don't want to post the "have you tried not playing D&D?" image here.
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>>157374701
butter
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>>157374695
holy kek that webm
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>>157368005
Reading that post in Murderface's voice was weird.
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>>157374598
>It Depends.
If you are playing D&D purely for combat you are doing it wrong. A good DM should be able to mix it up with basic things like ambushes or attrition even in those scenarios too.

If you want pure combat you are really better off playing some multiplayer computer game or an actual tabletop game like Warhammer. (D&D is P&P first and foremost)
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>>157374681
PWK basically makes you have 100 less HP than normal, that's the thing. You can immediately use it once they're below 100.
As far as magical flight for PttS you still take damage while you're in space, by the time you get back to the ground you're likely to be either dead or low enough for PWK.
Plus like, it's not like these are the only tools wizards have to begin with, the time they're most potent is when they don't actually attack you directly and instead teleport away / stop time, buff themselves silly, then come back and blow you out.

>>157374654
Yeah that happens sometimes
I don't know why but randomly the first week's tariffs are orders of magnitude higher
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>>157374998
>teleport away / stop time, buff themselves silly, then come back and blow you out
Sounds like you just have a shit DM
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>>157374448
But I never rest in Mountain Blade
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>>157375131
>I don't play Brytenwalda
Good lad
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>>157375108
Generally speaking a lone mage is somewhat weaker in direct combat than a lone warrior but becomes much, MUCH stronger once buffed (by himself). He can also be stronger if they're far enough apart I guess but that's situational. I don't really see how you think a warrior can actually compete with a mage who's been given time to prepare, especially since mages have a lot of spells that are effectively save or die whether or not you actually die.
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>>157344002
FRANK ELLIOTT AKA CAPTAIN LUST WE NOW KNOW YOU LURK AND CTRL+F YOUR NAME.

This dude has brain cancer and all he wants before he checks out is to play Bannerlord, if you don't exchange emails and sort something out for him you're a heartless bastard.
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>>157375192
I play VC but I have that turned off
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>>157375263
You have to say ginge.
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>>157374930
The rules determine the emphasis, and D&D has always been about, well, Dungeons and Dragons. Only recently has it tried putting any kind of mechanical concern into things like "personal history" or "personality."
P&P's significant advantages are in freedom of action and roleplaying, yes, but it's not always the emphasis. It can just as easily be a favorite accessory to the core of the action.

D&D is a game principally intended for killing shit and getting loot as a power fantasy. VTM is a game principally intended for expressing angst and indulging in edgy fantasies. Degenisis is as much about the enduring hardship of human existence as killing things. Then there's storytelling games, and things like Everyone is John, that are almost pure character and narrative.
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>>157375327
Not even him but the idea is less of combat being bad and more of 'nothing BUT combat is boring as fuck'.
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Which factions reminds you of yourself?

For me it’s Rhodoks – intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
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>>157375362
This is known. It's why D&D's focus on individual actors became a huge success relative to the wargame it spawned from.
But it's still obviously and unequivocally the son of a wargame.
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>>157375412
>literally JUST: the lord
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>>157375242
>a mage who's been given time to prepare
Maybe try not having shitty DMs and this may be relevant. Actual ROLEPLAYING might be relevant too shockingly enough.

>>157374535
A weak rationalization. Of course Wizards are going to be strong when you ignore one of the most glaring weakness of the class.
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>>157375412
>>157375437
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>>157375437
SNIPE
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Does the Dickplomacy download include source? Wanna add this shit to it.
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>>157375412
>>157375437
>>157375689
>>157375772
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>>157375538
>Maybe try not having shitty DMs and this may be relevant. Actual ROLEPLAYING might be relevant too shockingly enough.
I don't see what your point is. Just because mages who haven't been given time to prepare are weaker and just because >roleplaying can strengthen or weaken or just get around bosses altogether doesn't mean Warriors suddenly become stronger than Wizards. What Wizard capable of using pwk or ptts doesn't have at least one Clone and a bunch of buffs up almost all the time anyway?

>weak rationalization
I'm just pointing out that the reason it works like ass in crpgs is because it was a pretty contrived thing only made okay because of how ttrpgs actually function, that is to say, around a dimly lit table.
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>tfw never learned how to play table-top D&D with the lads

sounds like an extremely comfy thing to do
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>>157375538
>the bad DM argument
>the "you must not roleplay" argument
Nigger, must we tread this ground again, when so many have already walked this path?
>divination magic exists
>divination feats exist
>any prep the martial does would instead require more money and more time to be just as mechanically effective


But this is all incredibly specific, and I feel a tangent. To the original point
What exactly about old TTRPGs overpowering magic has to do with balancing wizards in a video game?
Yeah, it created a lot of influences, but then, JRPGs also exist.
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>>157376025
You're basically saying "Wizards are the best in situations that favor them!" If the DM is letting that scenario fly 24/7 with no variation that is a shitty DM, especially if it turns the other players into spectators.

I have done "no rest in dungeon mid-quest" playthroughs in Baldur's Gate 2 without issue. The infinity engine rest system is literally just baby gloves for players that can't handle vancian casting.

But if the only way you know to play is as a narcoleptic wizard that is obligated to cast time stop on every goblin and it's grandmother please feel free. The developers have gone out of their way to lazily permit this even when the big bad is actively draining the tree of life and the world may be doomed in any moment.
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>>157376154
>What exactly about old TTRPGs overpowering magic has to do with balancing wizards in a video game?

Martial classes have a tendency to be stronger in many RPGs due to itemization and attributes allowing better scaling. If we were talking about this in isolation it would be a non-issue, as its not even a universal. Especially in games that allow Warriors to debuff, AOE, and remember the existence of ranged weapons.

Romancing Saga for example is a very early example of weapons having weapon skills (rather than lazily treating them as attack bots) that permitted debuffs and AOE. Divinity: Original Sin an example of how the superior Warrior/Rogue scaling BTFO of mages in regards to killing efficiency mid game on.
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>>157376146
You need to have a good group of lads, and ones that enjoy playing the same way you do. It's like writing-and-playing a game together simultaneously; a premise and a genre need to be agreed upon going in or it's a mess.

Generally, you play one of several styles for D&D
>the grand campaign
You're expecting to play this game for years, and invest serious development into the setting, the characters, and your game table. Earn your way to being the protagonist of an epic poem.
>the beer and pretzels
It's a game, have fun. Light hearted themes, or at least approached that way. Roll some dice, chat up your friends (in character, even), and watch the numbers go up. Make some funny stories.
>the sandbox
Do whatever you want. Sounds great and easy, is actually incredibly, unbelievably difficult to execute. Almost always ends with the party stealing a boat and becoming pirates.
>the TV series
Every couple months you switch over to a different game at the table. Each one is about a certain cast of characters, and has a digestible story that can be told within a season of weekly episodes, but eventually it gets stale and someone has a new idea they want to try. Themes and genre can vary wildly, but it usually captures your attention.
>the writing room
All characters, all the time. It's all about nuance and interaction, and method acting. Stories revolve not around plots, but people. Dice are rarely rolled.
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>>157376146
Only when it works and when none of your buddies are asshats
/tg/ is filled with fun stories but that's the minority of sessions, most of them are enjoyable but not glitter gnome or "I disable Psionics forever" tier.

>>157376154
It probably has to do with the simple idea that if you want to actually balance wizards in a video game without the whole wizard hat deal you have to either make them pretty weak (like magic casters in Overlord) or make warriors scale equivalently (and even then mages get ranged attacks).
Plus mage armor exists.

>>157376315
>You're basically saying "Wizards are the best in situations that favor them!"
Yeah except (with the exception of CoDzilla), almost any fucking situation favors them over Warriors. Like okay maybe you catch them off guard but any ~18-20 wizard worth fuck-all will have ridiculous senses, extra lives via Clone, probably a contingency that casts a spell at his killer, the ability to simply fuck off if the warrior didn't manage to one-shot him since warriors can't cast dimensional anchor, and generally higher utility, attacking power, and defensive power than an equivalent warrior.

>If the DM is letting that scenario fly 24/7 with no variation that is a shitty DM, especially if it turns the other players into spectators.
Not fucking relevant, the concept that the DM has to more or less intervene to make everyone but casters not irrelevant speaks volumes about how overpowered they are in comparison to everyone else by their class design, WHETHER OR NOT ACTUALLY ALLOWING IT IS GOOD DM'ING

>baby gloves
That's not the problem, you can just bring an assload of scrolls if you feel unsafe with vancian casting. It just works poorly in crpgs because a rest feels much more artificial there than it does in ttrpgs, especially since most crpgs don't have a 'you're fucking tired' mechanic.

>time stop
If you can, there is hardly any fucking reason not to do so.
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vancian casting sux
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Well anyway for the anon that cares about the progress of this, will release the first basic version this weekend and then hopefully add shit leading up to Halloween.
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>>157376686
Zombii horde when
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>>157376598
>Do whatever you want. Sounds great and easy, is actually incredibly, unbelievably difficult to execute. Almost always ends with the party stealing a boat and becoming pirates.
Well it's not that hard for the players
It's killer for the DM though

>>157376558
Most games let warriors AoE and taunt at least no?
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>>157376686
looking good anon

godspeed
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>>157376724
when we play meme invasion 2 for halloween
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>>157376640
>especially since most crpgs don't have a 'you're fucking tired' mechanic.
Infinity Engine games; the poster boys of CRPGs, literally had a "you're fucking tired" mechanic though. Most of the perception of Wizards being overpowered in CRPG is literally a byproduct of Black Isle catering to the lowest denominator and making rest essentially irrelevant.

>Not fucking relevant
The DM is always relevant. That you seem to think D&D is glorified UFC with lenient prep time is pretty sad.
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>>157376598
>>157376640
where can one find these good lads

you guys make it sound so interesting

I'm really liking the sound of the grand campaign too
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>>157376814
>Well it's not that hard for the players
I've personally seen half-a-dozen parties be crippled by indecision and lack of inspiration at the sight of a hallway with more than one door.
The reaction most of these players had to open time was even more pathetic.
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>>157376814
>Most games let warriors AoE and taunt at least no?
Implementation of Warriors is surprisingly varied in RPGs even within the same company. Most Final Fantasys for example have weapon usage down to virtually just the "Attack" command, whereas Romancing Saga as a series treats weapon skills as a core mechanic.

Wish the same could be said for Wizards. The only interesting take I can think of Wizards presently is Dragon Dogma's implementation. Divinity: Original Sin gives Wizards the most flexibility to exploit environmental hazards but that is a core mechanic that can be exploited by all classes in reality (most notably archers with special arrows). If you took the dynamic environment away Divinity: Original Sin Wizards are pretty much same old.
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>>157367978
I think the logic is that wizards have to be more in tune with nature to harness the power of their mana or some fairy bullshit, as opposed to fighters who just go "hurr smash"

Anyway I like the encumbrance system in VC, wish more mods implement it.
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>>157376921
You usually don't, I'm sorry to say. It'll take some looking.

Get your feet wet at a gaming store that still caters to TTRPGs, or hit up a Looking For Group posting that sounds friendly to newbs. Then expect nothing, and be prepared for worse.

The Grand Campaign was the preferred style of early D&D games next to Beer&Pretzels, but these days the TV series rules.
It's difficult to pull off, because you have to start with a good group. Then you need to get that group of consenting adults who all ostensibly have lives away from the table to consistently manage the logistics of all being available at the same time.

Oh man, but when it happens.
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>>157376864
>infinity engine games
Which are not exactly all crpgs.

>is always relevant
Okay sure, it's relevant. If the DM literally has to contrive situations where an extra wizard wouldn't be preferable to the warrior in your party (as far as combat efficiency goes which really shouldn't be the main focus anyway but whatever) then that basically shows how much more useful wizards / clerics / druids are compared to warriors. Stop bringing in whether or not x is good DM'ing. The fact of the matter is that casters are and always have been overpowered compared to warriors because of their vast breadth of spells to pick and choose from and their ability (especially Clerics and Druids hence CoDzilla) to do everything warriors can do as well as or better than the warriors.

>glorified UFC
The fact of the matter is that we're talking about Wizards vs. Warriors. If you're going to move out of just normal combat then Warriors are even MORE obsolete because of all the miscellaneous and utility spells casters get. Like look even at level 1, Wizards can give themselves instant dyed hair and heterochromia for the cool factor, move shit around without touching it, summon invisible servants, bar doors with >magic, etc. Combat is actually when warriors stack up the best against wizards.

>>157377275
Don't newbies these days tend to use R20 or whatever it was called
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>>157377331
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How the fuck am I supposed to fight my way out if there's literally no way out due to the gates being fucking closed and indestructible.

I ended up jumping down the guard tower in the back to the other side.
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>>157377268
>...as opposed to fighters who just go "hurr smash"
I blame devs who think Warriors are just dudes that do haymaker swords swings. Especially since most games completely ignore footwork and balance. Probably why Bethesda games have been ignoring Spears and Polearms. They look retarded if you just swing your arms.
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>>157377434
It's such a stupid meme, too. Either your fighters are big dumb brutes or they're faggot elves that are thrown in as the token "dex" warrior because "only an elf can be graceful in battle".
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>>157350139
do I have to be a skeltal to pick necromancy? are you somehow restricted in which magic you can laern?
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