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/ssg/ Soccer Spirits General #375

Saving Thunder Edition

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.com2us.soccerspirits.normal2.freefull.google.global.android.common

iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/us/soccer-spirits/id808137814?mt=8

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wNX2ME3E
Friend list: http://ofo.jp/j/OgjO

The following players will have a boosted rate during the following weekend(s):

Oct. 14th - Oct. 15th: Angela, Blade, Beatrice, Celus, Damien, Askeladd, Jiho

Oct. 21st - Oct. 22nd: Kyoko, MX82 Vann, Silk, Hyang Ran, the Shaman, Lucid, Duran, Felix

Oct. 28th - Oct. 29th: Jacob, Griffith, Jade Rakshasa, Virgil, Shura, William, Vonchi

Current events:
Jay Rival Match 10/1-10/15
Mission Event: 9/29 - 10/14
Share The Video Event Winner Announcement 10/4-10/14

More info can be found in-game

Previous thread: >>157065674
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>tfw Haru EE/Vann EE will destroy frontlines
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Pretty hyped desu

>>157223463
How about thunder/ww with aslan buff, you could have khirel in back and vero in mid for their global buffs
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Vann/SC Balth/Bell/EBM Luka
Vero/Meta/Freyja ace
Nikita/Nerua/Asslad
Raklet

y/n?
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>>157223570
Remove nerua, put Alice or Altair
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Thunder/Ardor ace when? The cancer of Ardor backline, Thunder Mid and a combination front line when?
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>>157223570
>ever using Nerua
no
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>>157223693
>>157223630
You guys are shit
>>157223570
Enjoy losing alot
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>>157223647
Remember when light/whirlwind was the most sought after ace and everyone thought it would be completely broken because it combined the two best colors?
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>>157223923
You're dumb

Light/Dark was the most sought after ace and they were the two best colors

Metatron was everywhere. Metatron and Silla.
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>>157223907
>wanting to lose
Nerua is dogshit, let it go
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>>157223907
Hey, I love nerua just as much as the next guy, but if I had to dump goddess guinevere, our beloved thunder ace is a piece of cake to remove too.
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>>157224094
>tfw Vann will make Guinivere great again
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>>157224094
Why are you removing cuteness incarnate? Jury EE is coming so get ready for thunderball.
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Why do people keep using adwarestacks when Andy is the superior emulator? Is it because it needs half decent hardware to run? I can create accounts in Andy just fine.
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>>157225038
But Guin is already great because she is my waifu
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If I said fuck PVP and wanted a PVE team for Colloseum, what team should I strive for?

Or is PVE/PVP just the same
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>>157225392
Global buffs and crit dmg actives, forward passers + spirit gen

Yuri balth sharr front
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>>157225519
Is yuri really better than elaine?
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>>157225592
Unless you can stack at least have two (2) of Elaine's passives and Agent Sight III but still have spirit for active pass-shoot Yuri is better. One of the most critical aspects of CoD scoring is finishing the match in the first few moves which is why Yuri is preferred.
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>>157223984
People just wanted dark to use metatron on color
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>>157226057
i'm guessing he was talking about the time when avnore was the best healer, dale and malcolm were used unironically and ripboi was the other GK to go after besides kei. i don't remember light/ww ever being a thing people wanted though. it was mostly light/thunder since OUR GUY was the original cancer striker
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I love Uriel!
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>>157228185
It would have been around the height of Thunder buffs after pen nerf. We ha Elizabeth and Magnus and was teased with Chitose but no real way to combine WW totems with Light players in a single Ace.
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>>157228271
Fresh from C.Seryl's twitter
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>>157228464
Holy shit I would go Light for this skin
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>>157223037
Massive Access
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>>157229878
But it's shit?
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>>157230907
You're shit.
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>>157230303
Post the whole thing.
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dead
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Am I retarded or do the elementals in the dailies have insane reflex now?
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>hit enemy GK for 25k
>invalid approach
>counts as loss
oh im sorry sharr is so strong she breaks the damage cap allowed before the anti-hack kicks in
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Whuch would be better for backline? 1 superb Chitose (aka Hater Girl) or 5 superb Michael?

>>157234452
Didn't they always had it?
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>only legends are leventor and khirel from draws
>spend all my gold on scouts for Duran
>see this

FUCK YOU
WHY DO YOU KEEP COMING TO ME
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>>157235115
Ay yo bitch ass nigga get swirly
She'll succ yo dic
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>>157235115
>Complaining about free 6* st mat
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Why did BB have to go and censor so many skins?
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shura EE skill sucks
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>>157235950
Shekels
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>>157235950
Worst korea being worst korea.
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Will our hero Vann save us from all this thunder bullying?
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>>157236339
no
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>>157236339
>Thunderfags think they have the shortens of the stick
Fuck off
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>>157236339
>our
Stop forcing your lame meme, reddit-kun.
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>>157236339
>Vann got a shit EE
>Stats lowered due to a "bug"
Laughing my ass off at the 10 retards who used him.
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>>157236454
Pure monothunder teams are basically a free win once you get to their backline. Even fucking monodark is a better balanced team because their backline isn't complete shit.
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>>157236339
>Thunderfags constantly whine about their gks
>get buffs
>Darkfags complain about their gks
>get nothing
ebin

>Shura EE is underwhelming
>Vann EE is overwhelming
simply ebin.
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>>157236454
>little tiny baby hands
>oddly spaced fetal alcohol syndrome eyes
Who is Freyja's artist and when will he be fired so that we can actually get a decent artist to make her useable in the game.
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:^)
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>>157236754
that's what you get for bitching so much, nigger
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>>157235115
Still better than me
I'm the guy who bought him and drew him twice
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>there's people who literally think shura ee is bad
Fucking shitters and falseflaggers
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>>157237490
Having only gotten welfare Leventor myself, hearing stories from people like you make me feel good about having as much as 0 luck.
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>leventor is weaker than vann now
KEK
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>>157237620
>defense
>10% activation chance added
>still 5 min long
I'd rather have the Renee treatment desu
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>>157237896
I guess BigBall still hasn't forgiven him for what he did to Kei and every other GK a long time ago.
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>>157237916
But anon, 5 minutes is longer than silks passive, and that shit is practically eternal, unlike Elaine's that doesn't last even a minute
git gud ww/darkfag :^)
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>>157238043
>WWcucks cannot help it but turn everything into shitposting
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>>157238031
Ardor/lightball confirmed
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>>157237896
>lets nerf the ohko meta
>then we'll also buff utility strikers
Power strikers have been completely forgotten
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>>157238043
Silk's skill isn't rng dependent.
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>>157238134
>ardorfag shitposting
>wwcucks btfo kek :^)
>wwfag shitposting
>fuck off wwcuckniggerwhore
And people still doubt ardorcunts are the worst?
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>>157238329
Pathetic
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Patch when? Cant wait for EE Shura
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>>157238406
Yes, ardorcunts are literally cancer
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>99 clover elizabeth
>keep getting her instead of gp fodder
Fuck you, BB
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L E V E N T O R B U F F S W H E N ?
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Milky nerfs when? Not that she's overpowered or anything, I just want some BB sponsored wholesale bullying of this dumb slut.
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>>157238841
This. It's a top priority.
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>>157238841
>nerfing milky again
That'd be delicious.
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>>157238841
>bullying the mascot of the game
sorry but it's not happening
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>>157238685
W H E N ?
H
E
N
?
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>>157238953
Fuck off leddit, delusional cunts.
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>>157238953
Uhhh, SS mascot is pic related.
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>>157239076
>t. part of a 4chan general with 30 posters
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>>157238953
But that's Nera.
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>>157239171
t. ledditor that thinks that they are as popular
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>>157239349
stay mad that you don't get to infulence the game like us :)
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>>157239495
>stay mad that you don't get to shit the game like us :^)
ftfy
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>>157239592
>getting cucked by redditos
you are truly the lowest
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>ywn have Vann-sama penetrate you with his thick throbbing JUSTICE
Why live?
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Is Robin even good? I never saw or faced this guy even on mono-thunder teams.
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>Dark 4-6* box from avent
>motherfucking lucifer
>mfw
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>>157242082
I got niarose
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>>157242409
I got Valkia
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>Person has rare/uncommon player as ace
>Check their team
>Actual pvp team is cookie cutter shit and doesn't even feature their ace player
Oh, okay.
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>thunder gks got buffs before dark gks
>shura ee is underwhelming
>ardor/light got another cancerous player
reeee why can't us darkfriends get anything good
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>>157242842
Are you surprised that people want to win?
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>>157242951
Just wanted to see how the guy was using Jacob since he was in galaxy.
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>>157242890
Shura with her EE is top tier, stop complaining
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>>157242842
Same with one of my in-game friends whose using an Uriel ace for a long time and he turned out to be a massive light/ardorfag with Vonchi as striker.
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>>157242082
Lucifer is fine. But who cares about penpower today...
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>>157243556
>ardor/light falseflagger making it worse for us
we just need the qt dark gk and we're make you pay for this
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>>157243515
Clearly he was using him by not using him in order to reach Galaxy.
It's the only winning strategy.
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>>157243954
explaining then why shura isnt great
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>>157242890
Why are dark still even playing soccer? Just to suffer?
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>>157244107
Yes, i love pain and lil angels with selfheal.
-Vitos-
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>meme a few days ago about Robin getting buffs
>he get buffed
FRED I KNOW YOU ARE HERE
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Vann's EE is literally perfect for the team I wanted to build, based.
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>>157244483
Anyways, who cares about critdmg, when with DI Sharr can kill him with normal shoots?
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Fug
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>>157244107
In hopes that they'll get buffs someday

>Darkfags holding onto the smallest glimmer of light
poetry
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>>157244090
Because there are much better options.
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I'm thinnking of getting a tablet, since they are banning emulators and I want something better to play on when I'm home.

Any recommendations for a cost effective tablet that handles SS, doesnt get too hot, and has decent battery life?
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What runes for OUR GUY Vann?
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>>157240159
Fuck off Raklet
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>>157244652
> Changed to: [Shield] Decreases the incoming damage by x% and recovers x% of the lost HP first for 20 min. (Activates 3 times)
This should help him a bit imo, though Shanti and Sharr are just going to shit on him
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>>157244692
Good thing I don't use a shit gk like Isillio or that'd be terrifying.
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>>157244758
>and has decent battery life?
The less app running in background the less issues you will have with this
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>>157242890
Because fuck you.
Love, Ardor/Light Ball
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>>157244994
he should do better against DI strikers than anyone else though
the name of the game for DI is extreme efficiency off of underlying dribble/crit damage and reduction effects get inflated just the same by DI effects
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>>157245401
>he should do better against DI strikers than anyone else though
>DI strikers
No, he should do well vs Vonchi/light strikers and maybe William if he uses Presty. DI strikers will just fuck his shit up as he can't stack DR properly, Shanti and Sharr can easily get him to negative DR even with Kevin totem
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>>157244107
Ravian knows.
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>>157245660
Don't forget EBM Elaine. Only Angela can retain sove DR not being negative with that whore in town.
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>>157245660
I'm talking specifically about the now-high combined crit damage reduction + attack power reduction

if a striker does 1000 damage because it has 500 critting damage and 100% DI, as opposed to William who maybe might do 1000 critting damage and 0% DI, you're going to see far more worth out of decreasing the damage on the former than latter because robin's shenanigans are additive, not multiplicative

not saying robin might be good or bad in general, he simply has a better chance against DI than just no-DI method of dealing the same damage
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>>157245798
>Don't forget EBM Elaine
I don't even put her in the phrase because Sharrfags WILL use Elaine 90% of times and there are now a few Shantifags using Elaine too.

>expect balance
>a shitty head pat on Robin, Vann EE and Shura EE, some other minor changes
Biggest boner killer patch.
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>>157245968
More like, 90% of players use Elaine. She's needed in this disgusting ardor era.
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>>157245917
>I'm talking specifically about the now-high combined crit damage reduction + attack power reduction
That AP reduction is pretty much nothing
>Elaine moves once
>pretty much denied all of the debuff
>or Silla totem can deal with it
Of course, the guy won't easily have extra AP but I heard that on the top of having shit DR and CR he also lacks HP. Though Nerua + her ace can probably fix it
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>>157245968
Angelica or Silk are on 90% of teams so you need Elaine to deal with them.

CR and Reflex powercreep is unreal.
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>>157246254
Angela bandwagon was far late compared to Elaine bandwagon, also
>needing Elaine to deal with Silk
>when Shura alone always managed to deal with her
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>>157246254
>silk
>90% of teams
That's Elaine. There aren't as much Silks as when her EE was released because everyone fell for the "ww is broken" meme.
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Im really surprised they buffed Shuras risk field, lul.
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>>157246478
They did so because otherwise she'd have a permanent buff, so they went this other route where she becomes worse than Renee without looking that way.
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>>157246478
>Merely 10% higher chance to activate
Dark bullying is real.
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>>157246578
>>157246664
could you darkfags stop whining, it's fucking annoying

the EE is fine. ITS FINE. fuck off.
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>>157246664
Im okay with this. Dark has good front and mid lanes.
BUT WHERE IS FUCKING BACKLINE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>157246578
I'd rather have guaranteed crits than having huge pass doing no damage against Angela.

>>157246664
But in SS 70% means 95% chance, it's not bad. She also reduces defense and it probably is stacking type, better than Veronica frontline in many ways.
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That fucking face god damn. It's haunting me.
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>>157246769
>t. light/ardor with new retarded hp totem and aslan to buff their vic/meta mid
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>>157246664
At least she still is the cutest passer in existence.
Prove me wrong
Protip: you can't
>>157246769
>ardor gets good things
>that's fine
>dark is underwhelming
>that's fine
See how it works?
>>157246903
>guaranteed
It's 70% chance for 5 minutes. And this shit is so fucking rigged it'll only work that way for the enemy team, in home matches it'll be like 10% chance.
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>>157246769
fuck you stop falseflagging we deserve buffs more than you
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>>157246903
Wrong.
50% = 50%
60% = 100% for enemy, 50% for you
70% up to 99% = 0%

This is funny to see how your striker cant crit with 90% critrate in summary.
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>>157247035
You call see that it is the bandwagoners falseflagging because they aren't getting mad over how OP Hyang is. Instead they are trying to falseflag Shura so people won't complain about their new OP player.
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>>157247054
it is a buff though

are you saying 50% defense debuff doesnt help you do damage?
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>>157247012
his skin is great, so there's that at least
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I keep drawing Irre, a mileage and also normal draw several times

Why this useless gk stalking me?
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>>157247090
>This is funny to see how your striker cant crit with 90% critrate in summary.
Anon, are you "just pretending"? I was telling that anon ( or you ) that I'd rather have 80% crit from Shura than just a few more AP that Renee could provide and critting is vital to put down Angela.
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>>157247494
Fuck off VB.
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>>157247012
You don't know anything about being haunted. I've drawn Robin from draw, the same day in mileage and last week he wasted my mileage again.

At least he's good ST material.
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>>157247041
>What is QTpila
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>tfw Vonchifag with Shura
>Shura will now make my life easier to deal with Raklet huge defense or Jin's defense
And I win again with this patch
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>>157247565
Keep calm, boi, im using Shura and my critrate problems still not solved cuz of RNG.
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>>157247295
Is he even a good GK? I never faced him.
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>>157248027
I faced him once recently, he survived 2 or 3 shots from sharr
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>sure ready for Shura EE
>remembered about BHS
>oh my...
Fuck, gotta roll scout all the night until BHS pops out

>>157248027
Right now he is utterly meh. Everyone are trying to build him in monothunder team, but im sure his place is in rainbow team with Lucifer and Duran.
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>>157246478
>Didn't upgrade the time limit
The 5 minute time limit on risk field doesn't make any fucking sense. Dark focuses on debuffing the enemy rather than buffing themself, so both teams are going to be slow as shit and easily run down that timer once they break through your front line.

What's worse is that it's rng, so it's possible for the skill to not even refresh the timer once you do make it back to the front line.
Chalk up another shitty EE for Dark/WW.
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>Mfw light and dark are cancerous by association
>ardor and ww will use them to appear less cancerous
Why do ardor and ww fags ruin everything?
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>>157248148
just chill, youll get a bhs for free in a week
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>>157248109
So he's the number 2 GK?
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Even if dark gets its dark GK, aren't they still fucked when Vonchi gets reduced to 900 DS?
> Thunder resurgence
> Vonchi will soon be everywhere
> Results in Isillia being even worse off than she is now
> WW still shit on by Sharr and William + Elaine
Basically go ardor backline or get out?
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>>157248449
he's decent
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>>157248594
I just wish they will release Vonchi after April or nearby. I want to play game, not Vonchi Spirits.
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>tfw I still haven't draw or scout my waifu
That's it lads, I'm going to use my dstones for her
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>Change Raklet's attack buffs because it's retarded for a gk to have them
>Leave Ronald as is
Loving every laugh.
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>>157249407
Hello. They reworked Kei the same way.
Just keep your fingers crossed, Ronald will be reworked too.
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>>157249407
I want an attacker goalkeeper though
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>>157248363
>ww
>cancer
Literally, what?
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If Jean active cost 1 bar, would he be viable?
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>>157250870
No.
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why
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>20 more points until galaxy
I made it pretty quickly despite all the William and Sharr cancer.
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>>157251142
Better than you 226th elizabeth
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Is there a way to make a working ww/dark midline without meta/victoria?
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>>157251620
Vivid Fear
>50% reflex totem
>DI totem
>speed totem
>heal totem
Why would you even consider Victoria?
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>>157251752
>Why would you even consider Victoria?
To fight Ardor with Ardor.
Also, is she good without FTS or can I make her work with 2 dark pen stones?
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>>157251481
True, but the disappointment from the Neris is worse
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>>157244758
Ss is a battery drain, but any 7in tab from 2013 or sooner can run it for a while
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>>157252015
It isn't worse.
You can make Neris get you something good.
After you get 99 clovered Liz, every other Liz is literally useless.
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>>157250870
Heck make it even cost 0 spirit and no cooldown and he's still gonna be shit.
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>>157250870
I remember I was once beated by a Jean
Imagine a whole cookie cutter team with Jean/meta/victoria midline. After I could finally reach my midline, meta took the ball, passed to jean, and he used his active, and since I was beaten to death by Vonchi, he did the 100 hp left on my gk
Also, no. He's garbage.
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>tfw orses with calm icicle
jfc what is this monster
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>switch from Kei to isillia months ago
>Kei gets buffed not long after

If I switch to angela to use dickmagma will isillia get buffed
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>>157252406
An ugly meme whore made decent but still is ugly and meme.
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>>157252531
No, but Angela will get nerfed.
Which is kind of an indirect buff to Isillia, so yeah.
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>>157252406
That stone was literally built for her and covers her weaknesses.

>>157252537
That's not milky you fucking fag
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>>157252992
Both are whores
Difference is that Orses is too ugly to be fucked by anything.
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>>157253090
Projecting very hard I see
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>>157253090
Orses can fuck YOU, be aware, anon.
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>>157253090
You insulted my gal's honor, where do you live I need to give you an ass whooping so hard that your eyesight will come back.
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>>157253090
>Difference is that Orses is too ugly to be fucked by anything.
>t. special snowflake taste
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So what frontline would be best for Vann now?

Been using Vann - Luka - Veronica until now. (Was planning on replacing Vero anyway)
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>all these mememasters pretending to be orsesfags
It's funny because no one likes her unironically.
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>>157253607
I'm Thunder/WW btw
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A lot of darkfags here today.
Do you guys think this little loli is worth extreme evolving?
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>>157253607
Vann/Elaine/Veronica.
Anything else is shit.
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>>157253607
VannElaineVeronica
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>>157253747
yes
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>>157253607
Vann-Elaine-Choi

You know this to be true.
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>>157253779
>>157254393
>>157254887
>no crit
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>>157253747
>asking darkfags
>when she is clearly used off-color in lots of team
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>>157253608
I don't know about the other guys but she was my 2nd hypermaxed player and aside from balth she is the only player that never left my team. I don't know why people call her ugly, her base face looks good.
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>>157255365
>Van stacks crit/crit dmg on active
>Elaine gives 50%
>Veronica also gives crit
Do you even know what units do
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>>157255639
>Implying that's enough vs my silk
>Implying that will anywhere near enough once I get Aiolos

I messed up and only wanted to respond to the one with Choi.
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>>157256102
It'll be enough. Silk won't be on forever, and Aiolos is shit.
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Young dumb and full of cum.
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>>157256102
It's not about critting the goalie. It's about killing everyone else.
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>>157256102
>implying Silk can stop them
She is disappearing from teams because she can't stop them, so people are just going for DR, pen res and crit dam res.
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>>157256102
Nice joke, your Silk CR would only be relevant if she could use the active upon the ball arriving the backline. And for that you would need IC Virgil.
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Hello /ssg/, how are you treating your wives?

Angela and Elaine are doing good.
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>>157257606
>wives
>2 ardorsluts that are literally everyone's cumdumps
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>>157257784
Angela is pure, take back what you said now
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>>157257939
Your 'wives' play for me now, cuckboy.
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>>157257939
>town bycycle is pure
KEK
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>>157258124
>>157258129
LAST WARNING
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>>157258407
>angelafags are literal toddlers
What else to expect from ardorcunts
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>>157258407
She is Kevin's sloppy seconds.
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>>157258641
>kevin likes luka more than angela
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Gonna do a combine, should I go for fontus, icicle or TW?
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>>157258641
>>157258486
That's it, enjoy your day because tomorrow is going to be very different
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Why is shura allowed to have god tier chains, stone slots, AND skills?
>darkfags still complain
What the fuck?
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>>157258776
that really depends on your team and needs
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>>157258889
>chains
Pretty much irrelevant for a frontline passer.
>stone slots
Change the ww for ardor and it's god tier
>skills
Decent, not godlike. 5 minutes is a shit amount of time.
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>>157223037
https://www.withhive.com/help/notice_view/18356

In case someone missed the link somehow
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>>157258889
Why do bandwagoners have so much time for falseflagging?
>even when they proven wrong
What the fuck?
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>>157259081
>Decent, not godlike. 5 minutes is a shit amount of time.
> Schrodinger's Rabbit: Decreases Defense by 10% and Critical Resistance by 10% of the enemies within the position for 5 min. with a 70% chance when an enemy within the position makes an action. (Accumulates up to 5 times)
Wow, what the fuck I didn't even noticed they timed her ability. RIP good crit buffs, even Elaine and Milky give boosts easier for more time.

I honestly might not EE her.
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>yet another great light/ardor reflex/ace and it's a great unit at that
But remember, WW is the real cancer :^)
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>>157259526
Of course :^) Silk has 95% PERMANENT CR! /ssg/ and butt blasted reddit thunderfags told me!
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>people actually think Shura's EE isn't retarded
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>>157259526
Don't forget that the real menace is not William, Sharr, or Vonchi. It's Kirin, he has not counterplay!
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>>157260394
>"retarded"
>5min debuff
>not even 8min
>at best it might stack 3x and you may lose it if the ball stay a bit in mid or backline
Only hope is that if it get to 5 stacks and still "stack" again resets the timer, otherwise, garbage EE.
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What's the skill build for an ST6 Uriel?

I just need one more piece of fodder to ST7, but I want to start praising the thicc goddess sooner.
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>>157260459
>It's Kirin, he has not counterplay!
He has, it's Silla ace with VicMetaDuke mid and Aslan in your backline buffing your mid.
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>>157260573
>5 minutes
>the debuff will almost never go away cause its so easy to stack
fuck off retard
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>>157261048
>Silla Ace mattering
>midline ever stopping a forward pass
>Aslan to weaken your backline further
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>>157261202
>the debuff will almost never go away cause its so easy to stack
>IF the ball get back within 5 minutes
You first drooling retard.
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>5 minutes timers on buffs/debuffs are too short
pls buff silk/milky/elaine
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>>157261321
You cant get the ball back in 5 mins? Your team should be ABSOLUTELY GARBAGE
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>>157261321
your team is garbage if you can't get the ball back up by then
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>>157261439
If your opponent couldn't stop you from getting to the front for fucking 5min, you are fighting ABSOLUTELY GARBAGE.
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>silk's skill doesn't last forever it's only 5 mins lol
>5 mins is perfectly enough time for shura's rng skill lmao
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>>157261615
>implying
Pls stop
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>>157261747
>5 mins doesn't last forever
>5 mins is perfectly enough time
sounds perfectly reasonable to say them side by side
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>>157261747
And Shura depends on enemy team backline speed to trigger it, not on her own speed.

>>157261502
>>157261439
Getting ball back in 5min doesn't necessarily mean someone will move fast to trigger it again and it can fail because it's not 100% chance. I bet you both are the type who used to post Silk gave permanent CR
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>>157261974
>enemy team backline speed to trigger it
or you just shoot and the gk passes, 70% chance it'll trigger so its most likely gonna trigger
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>>157261974
>And Shura depends on enemy team backline speed to trigger it, not on her own speed.
I don't think anyone can ever be fast enough to move more than the combined moves made by 4~5 enemies in a given time frame

plus the GK automatically makes a move upon getting the ball
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Top cancerous defenders - Silk, Duran
Top cancerous striker - Kirin
Top cancerous gk - Jin
Top cancerous passer - Neraizel
Yep, thats OP WW
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>>157262504
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>>157262504
VF is a top cancerous attacker, Aslan is a top cancerous defender too. And did you see the new legendary? She is broken as fuck, BB pls buff Ardor/Light, they are going to be dominated by the WW/Dark!
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Top cancerous defenders - Victoria
Top cancerous striker - Sharr (willy is fine as you can stop him)
Top cancerous gk - Angela
Top cancerous passer - There is none
Oh look all listed are ardor.
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>>157262775
>Top cancerous passer - There is none
shura
>you can stop willy
wrong, willy and kirin are the most cancerous strikers
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>>157262775
>- There is none
>what is Renee with baltheon pass tier and good position buffs
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>>157262504
>silk isn't even used that much off color
>kirin is one of the least seen strikers in high leagues
>angela exists
>neraizel isn't even a thing since meta/victoria is everywhere
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>>157262856
>Renee
>ardor only assist
nah
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>>157262840
>wrong, willy and kirin are the most cancerous strikers
>t. bronze
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>>157262775
Wai so serious, we all know what is the real cancer Isillia
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>>157263007
>isillia
Fucking spoiled brats who don't know the real horror of facing ___Nute___
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>>157262953
>same could be said about Nera
>"N-nera is broken!"
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>Kirin triggering you autists for a 2nd day in a row
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>>157262840
>kirin
>cancerous
Stop being shit

>>157262856
>renee
>cancerous
Stop being retarded
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>>157263204
(You)
Take your pills, you're starting to see things that aren't there.
>>
I hate you guys.
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>Check patch notes
>No Lynbell buffs

But you guys said it was the beginning of darkball...
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>>157263670
>But you guys said it was the beginning of darkball...
>darkball
lmao, it's lightball dude
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>>157263670
Wait for Patricia to get her legendary tier game breaking EE that makes her a must have for all teams.
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>>157263891
>>157264002
>whores in MY /ssg/
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Jury EE fucking when! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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>>157264561
This, thunder needs buff.

Lightfags can fuck off, they are already too strong.
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>still no Magnus or Patricia EE
>all special snowflake elements have their element support with EE
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>>157263319
This is what you get from being a shitter.
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>>157266163
Please keep on shitting on Leventor. Remember what happened to William when people complained that a nonLegendary striker of the same attribute was better than him?
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I just notice there no more player cost, when did this happen?
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How many d-stones have you used on stone slot changing, /ssg/?

675 here.
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>>157266652
0
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>>157266301
>implying ardorball wouldn't overbuff ardor
>implying ardorball would buff thunder
You're funny
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>>157266747
>ardorball
nice meme
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>>157266747
>implying they are not going back to thunderball
Did you evenr ead the patch notice? Thunderbuffs, and the change of Jury minions, so you can only use her minions to EE her.
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This general is becoming worse and worse every day
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>>157267098
This is what happens when the esportsfags are positng.
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>>157266301
Leventor isn't bnad, the problem is that thunderfags are too retarded and don't use Elaine with him.
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>>157267073
>thunderball
Remember when everyone thought it was wwball, and after two weeks they went full ardorball?
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>>157267425
>people actually thought that Silk alone would be WWball
WW still has problems with both their mid and frontlines. Thunder weakness so far was their weak backline, that seens to be getting better with players like Altair and buff to their GKs. They even got a healer and an EE for her pretty quickly.
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>Clop quit the game
>clopfag quit the game
>Yuuka quit the game
>Jkun quit the game
Why we have more shitposting then?
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>>157223037
RIP Isillia users..
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>>157267863
Too bad thunderfags are too stupid to realize how good those things are.
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blue receiving, green crit dmg, dragon's bone and red crit dmg for griffith?
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>>157266652
750 in total for two characters
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>>157267929
>Why we have more shitposting then?
>Jkun quit the game
He is still here shitposting as well some other that have "quit"
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>>157267281
Apocalypse rates Blade higher than Leventor now.
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>>157267956
God, she's so cute. Can't wait to buy that skin and pair her up with Inspector Luka + Street performer Veronica.
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>>157267929
but I didnt quit
I just play a lot less
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>>157267929
>implying half of them weren't just people impersonating them
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>>157267956
Yeah, why not.
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>>157267863
>players like Altair
Altair is literally it. Nikita and Feyja's buffs are useless for keeping goalies alive.
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>>157268110
>implying
I rarely post
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>>157268436
so is ass'
>t. ass user since a week ago
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>>157268551
But Ass is cute
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>>157268852
Cute doesn't stop goalies from being exploded.
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>>157269017
But it makes your heart feel warm and you pee pee feels funny
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>Shura EE
>have been using her for a long time but never dropped beelze in her
Beelze does affect pass well or not? I honestly never bothered to use beelze in Assist units.
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>>157269506
>not having an extra 40 tech on youre passer
It's only around an extra 30 pass
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>>157269506
>being this retarded
Nigger, think for a second, what pass is affected by and what beelze affects.
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>>157269660
>30
Eh, I guess I will just stuff up my Magnus ass with beelze then.
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these girls are aight
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>>157269690
Pass effect, and beelze gives technique, speed, power and vitality, not pass.
Guess I'l use beelze somewhere else.
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>>157270291
>not pass
are you retarded
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>>157270242
It hurts how underrated are the 2*, 3* and 4* cuties.
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>>157270291
Anon, don't pretend to be me replying
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>>157270649
>tfw she will never be viable
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>>157270685
>pretending i'm not me
Why are you doing this? Stop
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What's better out of a 0 SPU Clover, and a 4SPU Samiel?
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>>157270649
>>157270737
I know that feel.
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>>157270774
clover, shes much cuter and gives better stats
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>>157270242
>you'll never kiss lina's cheeks
>you'll never sniff lina's hair
>you'll never hold lina's thighs
>you'll never hug lina and tell her you love her
>you'll never suck on her cute little tiddies
>you'll never penetrate her lovely and tenderly with the goal of procreation
>you'll never take responsibility and live a happy life with her
Brb kys myself
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Best ww stone for shanti, pen or crit damage?
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How many rapes would it take to mindbreak Jiho?
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>>157272079
>Raping Jiho
>Implying she isn't the one raping you
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>>157272079
there's a dick under that skirt
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>>157272079
none, because she is pure and only takes pleasure from playing soccer
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>>157272079
I doubt it's possible.
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>>157267929
I miss Clopanon, she was cute
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>>157272079
An average orc cock should be enough to make her forget all about soccer.
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>earn 14 points from tourney win and move into galaxy
>went from 500s ranking to 200s
What
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>>157274161
Grats anon, I'm proud of you.
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Do people seriously run him like this? It looks like a fucking disaster to me.
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>>157274467
It's people desperate to make him do damage instead of going full pen or crit like they should.
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>>157273953
*lilith's cock
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>>157274519
What's a better setup? I was wondering if I was being rused.
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What do you guys do with boss drops? Sell them?
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>>157274467
did you check what the stats were like?
the ratio of stone sensibility to goodness grows as a player invests in stones, and then takes a dive again when they reach a point where stone substats outdo the primary stats
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>>157274917
They can be used for training or selling. They vary by use.
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>>157274917
read their descriptions.
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>>157274917
Save up enough E the boss
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>>157274919
No, it was just a picture that someone posted. I was confused, so I saved it and came to ask you guys about it.
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>>157275042
don't trust those kinds of screenshots too much
for the longest time I had a reflex stone on my striker because it gave 28% critrate
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>>157275134
I imagine a stone setup like that would probably need something like 40%+ crit rate in substats to actually work, then.

Back to the drawing board, no idea what I'm doing with my Leventor's stones.
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>>157274773
Not him, but I guess you could go either

SHoT/thunder rec pass/dark crit or crit damage/red crit damage
or
Glab/rec pass or pen /dark crit or dribble/red crit damage

Focus either on penetration or critting, or you won't achieve none. Red Crit damage is for the damage increase and to make you stronger in case you crit, works for both cases.
Also, have a good frontline. Something like Elaine/Veronica can work very well with all that defense reduction, permanent 30 crit, more crit damage, and elaine's passives giving you more power
Also, good luck on your substats.
>>
who's a better Light Penetrator: Mikael or Skorn?
>>
>>157275968
mikael
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>>157275968
Mikael
Dook
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>>157275507
Thanks friend.

What do you think is better, the pen based build, or the crit based one? I have a Choi, but not an Elaine yet.
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>>157270649
it is a shame
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>>157276078
I'd go with the crit based one personally, since Leventor has almost as much pen as Vonchi, and along with EBM Elaine, he doesn't need much pen, but instead do high damage through crits.
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I wish Milky was real so that I could feel my fists smashing her rib cage into pieces
>>
Why is Mariel allowed to be so beautiful and so useless at the same time?
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>>157278235
That'd be nice
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Why is Uriel allowed to be so beautiful and so perfect at the same time.
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Why is Lucid allowed to be so cute and sexy at the same time?
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>>157278990
Lucid a slut. Ravian best dark girl.
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>>157278750
>>157278990
Because they're useless
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>>157279248
Say that to me in esports and not a basketweaving mongolian imageboard
See what happens m8
Ill fuk u up real quik.
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>>157279241
Ravian has been used and abused in labs by fat old scientists since she was a look!
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>>157279310
>btw my team is full of cancer, so literally even vayne could win with my setup, rendering the striker as absolutely irrelevant :^)
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>>157279470
You could say that with almost any striker tbqhwyfampai
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>>157279460
Why do you make up lies and falsehoods like that?
>>
>>157279470

Vayne is good, you fuck. Dare him with something like Dochi or Pei Lin, not a 5* striker.
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>>157280254
She's the ugliest useless striker, had to use her.
At least Dochi and Pei Lin are cute, they're at an advantage against that disgusting whore
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>in gold
w-what emotion am I supposed to be feeling...
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>>157280686

Mischievous feeling for cockblocking some bronzies.
>>
>9

C-come on guys it's patch day we should be excited
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>>157283091
>No balance changes aside from thundershit buffs
Let this general and game die.
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>doing arena
>autoing because lazy fuck
>some minutes pass
>look at the screen
>sharr uses active shot
>4.3k damage
>not even williams ever did that much damage on galaxy before
>not even vonchi after 4 shots
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>>157283251
and dark getting the best non legend assist
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>>157283395
Yep
Sounds like Sharr.
>>
Anyone else see Elaine/Shura fronts start to pop up?
>>
>>157283408
Only for 5 minutes
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>>157283408
Try harder, falseflagger-kun,
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>>157283608
>>157283545
fuck off
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>>157283536
That shit was on since silla/luka was dedd, but since not everyone has shura, they just use elaine with whatever else is available.
It works just as well.
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>>157283395
I love how balanced Sharr is.
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerspirits/comments/577h5h/clearing_up_the_misinformation/

>wahhhh Fred, they are CHEATING and we miss MONEY, please do smthing or we will fire you, you dogshit
>lets ban emulators, this can help!
>what is overheating phones?
>what is better ways to protect game from cheaters?
>we need money and only money
>REROLLS CAN GIVE YOU HUGE COMPETITION ADVANTAGE

This game is going to die, we are on a suicide watch
>>
>>157283792
They're koreans, they don't know any better.
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>>157283792
I'm still using my emulator.
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>>157283792
All because of those hacking faggots
Thanks a lot
>>
>>157283792
I thought only new accounts were not allowed on emulators?
Which means you make an account on your phone and then just use an emulator for the rest of the time?
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>>157283792
The worst part of all this is that now we'll have to set our phones on fire because of the "standards" of Korean programming (literally nonexistent).
>>
>get to my midline
>nera passes to meiran
>she doesn't attack full hp beth
>passes to khirel
>he's too scared to attack a low health victoria
But remember, she's balanced :^)
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>>157284137
>Implying my phone isn't already on fire
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>>157283792
>Most of /ssg/ plays on emulators
Rest in fucking peace. Final nail in the coffin. It's been long overdue, boys.
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>>157283989
BB seems to think hacking can only be done on emulators, they're fucking retards.

They're looking for a quick way to stop hacking, but not only is it not going to stop hacking but it's also going to destroy a huge chunk of the playerbase. There's no way I'm going to back to playing on phone after having the luxury of playing from emulator.
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>shitposter replying to himself again
If anyone is wondering, yes, he's full of shit.
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>>157283792
>emulator
>implying phones cannot run moded apks
>implying phones cannot run packet injection scripts
>implying phones cannot run automation scripts

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Yare yare daze, Fred-chan.
>>
>>157283792

>Rerolls can give you huge competition advantage

This is probably the most retarded thing I've ever read about this game.
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>>157284567
I have no idea why I should shitpost, but reddito said "we are blocking emulators at all, not only the registration new accs"
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>>157284825
>believing anything reddit says
Stay there, and never come back.
>>
>>157284878
There is literally nothing wrong with browsing /r/soccerspirits.
>>
Im sure Saber and her whore are streaming from emulators too.
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>>157285158
you can tell they have a device
>>
>157285158
And this is why you ignore and report shitposters.
>>
>tfw you will never plow saber
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>>157284783
I mean its kind of true.

But they miss the point that whaling gives you even more of an edge and rerolling is primarily a way to try and stay competitive to whales.
>>
>>157283792
CG can host a private server anyway.

That is ofcourse, if (You)'re willing to pay for the servers.
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>>157286305
I didnt know Comedygol is that rich
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>>157286385
I'd literally let him fuck my ass and pay him for it
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>>157286305
Yeah until BB and Com2us sends him a C/D
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Shura EE in a few hours. Darkball one step closer to becoming reality. You mocked us. Now you will all pay.
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>>157288352
>ardor/light falseflagger acting like one of us just to show fred that shura ee isn't shit
Don't believe the lies, Fred.
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Could someone post their Shura's stats once they've EE'd her?
Considering switching Black Daisy out for her.
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I've decided to go Light/Wind with Vitos as accompaniment.
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Balancing n-next patch, /ssg/...
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>>157289203
>Balancing n-next patch
you mean shu buffs right?
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Place your bets, this maintenance is gonna be longer for 2 hours more.
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>>157289432
Yeah 2 hours.

I don't know why they estimate 2 hours when there's an APK update involved too, those updates have never been as short as 2 hours.
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>>157289432
So what now do we do now.
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anybody happen to know the max limit for stamina?
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>>157289608
Ummm, 999?
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>>157289601
Draw Noas
or whoever your waifu is.
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>>157289601
Masturbate one more time on Orses.
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>>157289665
thanks.
obvious if you think about it, but i still needed to ask
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>>157289686
I can't draw so I have to wait for another Urielbro to
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>>157289893
post webm :^)
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>>157289203
Anon, it's okay. Look on the brightside; the longer they go without balancing or advertising the game, the sooner we'll be free.
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New guy here buying an account and need help deciding

I have the choice between a rank 1 metatron account, rank 1 Vonchi account and an unspecified rank Bell/Felix account

Which one should I go for? I'm leaning towards the Metatron account but I dont know anything about the game

Also, they're all Global if that matters
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>>157290394
Trace what you need.
Redraw the eyes/hair -- which is very easy but fundamentally tedious.
Color.

You can do it.
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>>157291458
i drew valkia
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>>157291445
>buying an account
Out of curiosity, how much are they running for? Anyways I'd go for the Vonchi account. Meta will be easier to get since she's cheaper to get than Vonchi.
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>>157291651
Meta 10 bucks and I'm still negotiating with the prices for the other two

How much would you place them at?

And yeah, I've been rerolling since Feb and I haven't seen a 6*. I'm done.
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>>157291736
Also, out of curiosity, how well does Milky go with Vonchi? She's probably my favorite design wise and I'd like to use her if possible
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>>157291736
Never bought an account, so wouldn't know.
Milky is a staple for Vonchi front line, if you want to use her then get Vonchi account.
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>>157291736
>since february
jesus
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>>157291548
I can fap on this.
>>157291458
Silk faces pls, with cum on it in one version
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>>157292125
Yeah, I'm pretty unfortunate across all gacha games which is absurd

>>157291936
Oh, I'm sold then

Thanks anon
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>>157291736
you can buy my account anon
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>>157292565
Try luck in real life then
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>>157292565
reroll your life for a higher luck stats anon
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>>157293649
Yay, pretty good stats. As usual for ardorball.
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>>157293649
I want to fug her.
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>>157293649
that's probably the worst nemesis chain ever.
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An update that finished on time? What the fuck, man.
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What a waste of a draw. No Korean girl for me.
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>>157294546
LOL
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Nice
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>>157293157
I want a starter account, anon

Do you have a starter Vonchi account?
>>157293479
I really should hit a casino to test the gambler's fallacy at this point

Maybe I can make it big

>>157293536
Too late for this now, anon. Maybe in my next life.
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>cowgirl silk is free
alrighty then
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not bad, i like that speed
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>>157294829
I'm going to get the skin, out of principle, but it's so fucking boring. Any of Silk's other skins are much better.
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>>157294546
This draw made my day.
Thanks for the laugh anon
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Whats the best stone setup for Vann?

Double ardor crit or TB?
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>>157291445
Vonchi is broken so if you want to win, that's how. But he's not a cute girl.

Meta account is the best if you want an open-ended start that lets you build into any team with a solid basis, that's what I'd use
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>>157294546
>want cute girl
>get furries
kek'd
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>>157295118
How is Milky with metatron? At the end of the day she's who I want to use the most

I'm somewhat sold on the Vonchi account because the other Anon mentioned she's a staple with him
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Shura stat nerf incoming
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>>157294904
>Not using base art
Eww.
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>>157295289
Get Vonchi, first thing on this game is obtain a good striker (Vonchi) and a good gatekeeper, use milky as ace and search for Angela (GK)
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>>157295289
Yeah Vonchi and MW do go together.

>>157296134
Isillia is also an option, can build light team then or some other variant. Doesn't have to be light/ardor
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FUUUUCK I DONT HAVE SECOND BHS AND IT DOES NOT POP IN SCOUT, CAN WAIT NO LONGER
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Which EE arts are superior?
I'll begin.
1) Jheet
2) Silk
3) Metatron
4) probably Neraisel
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>>157297108
Wolf-fucker is
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>>157291458
i'm done!
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>>157288979
Could be worse. She is still top cute.
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>>157297494
>cute
>busty

T-thanks!
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>>157297494
boobs ruin the cuteness desu, at least put clothes on her.
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>>157298614
Well time to quit
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>>157298614
When will the Isillia bullying end?
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>>157298719
Right after the Vitos bullying end.
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>>157298614
>just read ee vann's skill set today
>just now realize how broken he is

jfc.
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>>157298614
>actually badass and not a fuccboi
Thank god he didn't get that treatment

He's awesome and I can't wait to change team to use him
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>>157299082
>not a fuccboi
What?
This is the literal definition of justice-kun.
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>>157299143
no
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>>157299143
shut up fuccboi
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>Got a good streak going on in arena
>"Hey anon how about you vs this guy in champions/galaxy" when you're only plat

Yeah fuck you too.
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>>157300123
>not stomping his old and busted waifu galaxy team with your fresh meme ultracancer hotness
>>
dont die
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>>157303672
Your wish is my command anon.
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>belz from free draw
whoa

first time in forever that happened
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>>157303672
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>>157305137
and out of all of them how many still play
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>>157305352
Underdure, KRUNK, Fonkali, a6012 and Kuropika
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so whats the nerua replacement for mono-thunder `
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>>157305569
Altair
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>>157305569
>replacing Nerua
>when Vonchi is going to drop to 900ds
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>>157305707
Doesn't matter still going to die to the 3rd shot of Grande Finalas
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>>157305707
>not replacing Nerua
>wanting to lose
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>thundercucks showing how bad they are at the game
I knew you guys just bandwagon to the new hotness without thinking, but holy shit.
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>>157305975
Nerua is SHIT. SHIT.
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>>157306326
>20% HP to the whole team
>30% CR and 20% CAR to the line
>Decrease damage from Vonchis by 30%
>SHIT
You know what? Keep thinking that, easier for me later when I buy my Vonchi.
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>>157306790
That small amount of hp isn't noticeable really

CR is ok but not great, CAR is ok but not great

DR helps you survive but you are doomed anyways, you want to break out more than survive one more shot

It's much better to have units that give speed or slow Vonchi's line, or that give DR, or some other useful utility. Being as slow as Nerua is, is death. And also the fact that she's retarded loses many games
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>>157307294
If you know something better for the backline of a mono-thunder go on.
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>>157308506
>discussing esports with thunderbabies
You're cute anon.
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>>157308506
There's several leaders and assists you can chose from
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>>157309229
I'm just both bored and posting so the thread won't die.
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Dark should get a new healer that's actually good
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>>157309325
>leaders and assists
That sounds contradictory to the purpose of having shit that will make your life easier when breaking out
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>The thunder that is about saving and justice gets an EE
> ssg starts dying shortly after
Fucking thundercucks ruining everything
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>>157311557
they didn't want justice.
everybody is always hoping for something that gives them an advantage.
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>>157311557
this place won't be dead until it takes more than 2 days to reach the post limit per thread

there's at least something new each week
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Dead.
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>>157308506
>going monothunder
Thunder/Dark Freyja is where all the bitches at
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>>157313825
I don't even know how a thunder/dark backline would look like but I'm pretty sure its shit
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>>157314415
all you need is nerua for more light damage reduction
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>>157314415
>What is Alice
suuuure thing Anon
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>>157314560
I thought we covered this already. No Nerua. No. Nerua.
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>>157307294
CAR is a lot more valuable now since they lowered reflexes to 50%. Even just lowering it to 25% is extremely valuable, since you're less likely to get fucked over now.
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>>157314929
Freyja is a much better source of CAR though than Nerua.

Nerua is just complete garbage. She's slow, useless, she's like a shitty version of Duran.
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Ever since i drew freyja last week, I've. Been playing around with my team.
How does this look?
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>>157314664
>Alice being able to do anything with a shitty line
Quick, theorycraft a hypotetical thunder/dark backline that won't get completely shat on by 90% of the current frontlines
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>>157315306
Replace Alkyde with Shura
Replace Cynthia with Lynia
Replace Nerua with Lindberg
Replace Verister with Alice
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>>157315481
>Replace Cynthia with Lynia

Top keks
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>>157315712
Cynthia is not worth using
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>>157315481
shura and lind are going to have to wait a bit since they still don't have superbs.
i hate lynia though, so no dice on that.
should i move bell back though, or does it not matter now that she doesn't get a third stack?
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>>157315123
This trolling is hilarious

Freyja needs to act twice to give more CAR and the units lose it on death.

Freyja is also slow as fuck too. So that is a moot point.

Nerua is much tankier than Freyja and is a much better defensive unit.

Freyja is a good unit though but certainly not a replacement for nerua. Don't be stupid
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>>157315741
T O P

K E K S


Are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>157315798
Nerua is garbage, seriously. You need backline units that give some useful utility, like heals, long passes, slows, speed boosts, etc. Nerua only gives some tankiness (which is whatever) and CAR. Again, she's not worth using over other options. She will just lose matches with her retard AI.
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>>157316012
Post your team. You are fucking retarded

This is borderline trolling now.
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>>157315842
I'm dead serious. Cynthia was good months ago, but not anymore.

Are you implying Cynthia can crit reliably with only one crit totem? Have fun when Alice debuff is on and Silk rapes her unborn children.

Cynthia has nothing besides her crit dmg passive (no, 15% slow is not significant), and even then, it only triggers 75%. She is way too unreliable.
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>>157316012
>She will just lose matches with her retard AI.
defender AI is the best thing possible in the backline if you're willing to invest in damage

you just sound like one of those WW backliner people whose idea of a fine backline is speed and reflex and nothing else and then complain about Kirins being OP
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>>157316103
I can't believe how dense you are. Thundercucks sure got some serious stockholm syndrome going.

Remember the last time you saw a Nerua on a team and went "oh yikes, how will I beat this?" Me neither.
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>>157316378
Now see your opinion is invalid.

You don't even fucking use a thunder team.

This is who retarded you are.

Kill yourself.
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>>157316378
everytime actually
i use Uriel
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>>157316235
>Cynthia can crit reliably with only one crit totem?

Yes. Yes she can.

Source - I do it all the time

Bell gives 30%. There is no way that Cynthia doesn't have over 100%. Or can't get over 100%.
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>>157316449
No thanks.

>>157316476
>Nerua so fearsome that the worst striker in the game fears her
kekking at the speed of light.
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>>157316476
I'm so sorry Anon.

At least she's cute as fuck
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>>157316667
There is nothing wrong with Uriel.

Bronze teams maybe but real Uriel teams are cancer and can easily get to galaxy
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>>157316378
>Remember the last time you saw a ____ on a team and went "oh yikes, how will I beat this?"
If you just focus on one character like that then I don't remember ever being afraid of literally any other characters in particular

Even Duran and his complete lack of selfish damaging power makes him a free ball dispenser to anything that I put in front of him that has any damage
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>>157316612
Post your team you stupid fuck.

Waiting to see your 9k TA non thunder team fountain of knowledge team.
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>>157316521
>Source - I do it all the time

I'm not even into the discussion but fuck anecdotal evidences.
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>>157316521
I just detailed common sources of crit res and crit debuff

Cynthia also doesn't contribute to the reflex war in mid. And you think it's a good idea to use her with just one reflex buff and an attack ace. LOL.
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Should I make the switch ti Raklet/Robin? Or completely rework my backline/team to accomodate Angela?

I swear the only thing holding me back is a usable thunder/ardor ace
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>>157317290
Dat Griff so qt

Harsh having to choose between her and Lord
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>>157316235
>no, 15% slow is not significant
Congratulations, this is the most retarded statement I have read today, and I have seen a lot of shit today. Although it was all probably from you.
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>>157316897
Anon I've been using Cynthia with Bell for well over a year now.

No problem
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>>157317591
It's not enough to make her worth the slot, there are better units in mid.
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>>157316235
>no, 15% slow is not significant
>global, permanent, lasts through deaths of either cynthia or the enemies
you seem to be expecting an outright broken character that will end up on every single rainbow team for the next 8 months
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>>157317738
Cynthia has a global slow. She also kills 99% of anything that attacks her. Has a good active and she has incredibly high reflex.

You are

R E T A R D E D
E
T
A
R
D
E
D
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>>157317290
This has got to be the strangest thunder midline I've ever seen
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>55 draws this weekend

i hope i finally get to meet jiho
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>>157317949
enjoy your GP fiesta
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>>157315123
Was just arguing that CAR is valuable. With the lowered reflex values, just a 20% increase really fucks with how well Elaine steals the ball. Mostly learned from fucking CoT where she never steals the fucking ball.
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>>157317860
>kills 99%
>when her crit isn't reliable, and her crit dmg passive is 75%
I think not

She will still not have very good reflex with an attack ace and just one reflex buff, she will get CA'd like no tomorrow. You can have all the damage in the world then and it doesn't matter.
>>
Reminder that you retards have no right to complain if you're not using the very best units available to you (meaning scoutable non legends)
using a striker that isn't Sharr, a GK that isn't Angela, and an ace that isn't Silla/reflex ace is just begging to lose
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>>157318098
>just 20% really fucks with how well Elaine steal the ball
>it changes from 13% to 10%
You are talking about how those 3% really makes a difference.
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>>157318168
You're mentally challenged.

Nothing more for me to say. I've been using her since day 1 of her EE and have had 0 issues.

You need to join the guy who said Nerua is bad in the looney bin.
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>>157318401
>Doesn't know how CAR works
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>>157318484
Apparently, you don't. Because that is the difference 20% CAR does at the reflex CA cap, so it might even be lower.
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>>157318168
>Thunder units
>Not having reliable crit
Lol. Take your pick of crit and since you care so much, reflex sources on thunder and tell me that Cynthia lacks crit again.
She has thunder slots, can hold thunder uniques and is generally paired with at least one of the thunder crit totems on her line. Bell+Cynthia with a SHoT is a universal setup that shits on anything.
Also reflex stealing is one thing but after being nerfed the "unit that does more damage, survives fatal trades" change is ALWAYS in Cynthia's favor because no one does more damage than her in a clash.
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>>157318418
It is the same guy shitposting thunder.
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>>157318559
Every percent counts. The lower cap makes it a less likely chance and increases the chance of players committing suicide on the enemy striker. It's more likely that everyone dies against the striker than stealing the ball now.
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>>157318401
I think he just means the combined effect of lowered chance cap and CAR

CAR/reflex is a dumb version of DR anyway, and I'm surprised it's not multiplicative effect because going from 80->90 CAR is NOT the same fucking efficiency as going from 0->10 CAR example
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>>157318716
I don't know if you realized, but when they lowered the cap for CA, they also nerfed how CAR affects it, since they work on a percentage value.

You are trying to say how valuable Freyja CAR is because in some niche cases you will have at most 3% more chances of not being CA,
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>>157318878
Anon you can't be serious.
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>>157318961
I'm being completely serious, it is the same for Pen/DR, if they nerf the effects of DR, you also nerf pen, since pen work in percentage of DR, and not a static value.
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>>157319113
>if they nerf the effects of DR, you also nerf pen
that would be true because you have other sources of damage to invest in that benefits from DR getting nerfed

what's your argument towards the reflex/CAR? forget about both of them and just stack damage? because there's no alternative to the counterattacking game besides shit that got equally nerfed by the reduced CA cap
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>>157318850
>and I'm surprised it's not multiplicative effect
Because it is not as broken as DR? If you manage to get 100% CAR, it means you won't be able to be CA'd by the enemy, while 100% DR means that they would need to max their pen to get 50% damage in at max.
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>>157319113
At this point in time, it's more valuable to have damage and CAR than reflexes. The lowered CA chance means that overpowering your opponent is more valuable than reflexing them.
>>
"Nerua is good" - /ssg/, 2016
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>>157319292
I'm not saying that CAR is useless, but the utility of CAR decreased with the nerf of CA, and that 20% is not that much. Especially since those 20% are not permanent.
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>I rate Leventor
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>>157319584
the utility of reflex decreased by the same margin

this shit only matters in the context of worrying about reflex fights vs. worrying about damage, not just CAR
>>
Is Silla best girl?
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>>157223037
>tfw game never goes past the first loading screen
how do I even play this
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>>157321078
not a chance
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So about the new event
Does anyone know if you can get any actual good things from it or not save and just spend tokens on gold or whatever?
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>>157322082
You can get 100k gold, 30 crystals. gatekeepers.
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>>157321094
Emulator?
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>>157322339
talking about the android version on a real phone
on first run it asks for permissions
and no matter what I do there the game just force closes during a loading screen
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>>157322540
Weird, I play it on my android phone without problems. What version of android are you running?
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>>157321727
Dogshit waifu.
>>
Can anyone explains how CAR scales? Since the chance of resisting of counterattack is capped at 50%, what amount of CAR should i reach to get the cap, 50% or 100%?
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>>157322540
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
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>>157324287
The chances of CA is capped at 50%, which means that if they have 500 or more reflex than you, they have 50% chance to CA you.

CAR affects how much of that you will reduce, which means that if you have 50% CAR, and they have 500 or more reflex than you, they have 25% chances to CA you. If you have 90% CAR in that same scenario, they have 5% chances to CA you.
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>>157294175
Better than Meiran, who has only one useful chain.
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>>157324573
So there is no cap on resisting counterattack and it can go up to 100% making player somewhat invincible? Thanks, seems like i misunderstood something
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>>157325531
there's a hard cap on the CAR stat itself which I believe was 90
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>>157325531
>invincible
Yeah, if you always have more damage than who you are attacking, yes, 100% CAR means that you wil always win the dispute. This is why Khirel with FTS can easily bring the ball to the front most of the time.

>>157325678
It does? I don't remember they ever mentioning something about it, although if it happened in a big patch there is a good chance I overlooked it.
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>>157323656
6.0.1 cm13
>>157324361
I did that just now because why not
didn't change anything

am I the only one here with this problem?
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>>157325743
The capping happened with the reflex rework that raised the CA chance from 50 to 60 and made CAR work off the capped CA chance
>>
Btw, why no one care about Eden with built-in 50% car?
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>>157325743
They capped CAR at 90% when they nerfed all CAR totems to be 20%
>>
Why the fuck 6 refresh coins when you can only choose 2 rewards in the coin event?
>>
>>157326442
Are you retarded?
>>
>>157325870
>>157326287
Thanks, didn't know that.
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>>157326442
Are you mentally deficient?
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>>157326442
Are you stupid?
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>>157325842
It should work, afaik, it only has problems with old android versions(something like below 4.2) or very low specs phones, although my friend has a shitty one, and the only problem is that the game is slow to load/lags ingame.
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>>157326548
>>157326626
>>157326691
Thanks guys.
Is there different prizes if you refresh?
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>>157326214
selfish CAR matters most on characters that are unstoppable killing machines
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>>157325842
Are you sure your phone has enough space?
It downloads a large file after you start
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>tfw invested in evylin instead of shura
look at me and laugh.
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>>157327457
Dont worry each season 2 passer EE has been getting better than the last.
>>
Which elements are getting EEs in the next patch?
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>>157327457
Oh well, at least you can hope, I would laugh if she had an EE and was shit.

>>157327503
Renee EE was better than Shura EE.
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>>157327401
574MB free on internal sd and 1.4GB on root
does it download without a progress bar?
>>157326730
maybe it's because my phone is rooted?
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>>157327793
>Renee EE was better than Shura EE.
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>>157327669
If patterns are to be believed, it should be WW and Ardor with probably Jury EE.
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>>157326214

What about Asakura having 75% from her Passive and 15% from being an attacker?

Doesn't fucking matter.
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>>157327964
Post whatever, It's not like I am expecting an actual argument from a shitposter.
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>>157327793
>Renee EE was better than Shura EE.
Agreed, Everyone bitched about a great survivaility upgrade on Renee while now they praise a shitty -50% defene that needs to stack up 5 times. I don't fucking know how.
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>>157328115
>Shura offers 30% Reflex and Crit Rate 100% of the time
>Shura who can potentially take away 50% Critical Resistance and Defense
>Shura who also has over 700+ pass easily
>Shura who can wear Silent cold for 15% more crit damage to the line
>Shura who can upswing your strikers shot by 105% Crit is not better than Renee

KEK

Okay buddy

Renee

40% Crit damage and 25% receiving pass and 20% crit rate for ARDOR

Yeah man she is SOOO much better than Shura.


105% potential crit + 15% Crit damage >>>>> Renee

Its not even a contest. Shura also can reflex steal far better.

Use facts next time instead of talking out of your ass.
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>>157328385
Survivability is literally what she needed, since adding her to the front with Elaine and William made her the weak spot, but not so much anymore.
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>>157328476
Uh I think he's talking about the EE skill upgrade. Yes, Shura was and is WAY better than Renee
but the EE upgrade is just shit compared to Renee's.
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Feel free to do your dailies. I ain't your babysitter.
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>>157328868
>Shura is better than Renee
>but is still shit
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>>157328932
>mention that im talking about the skill upgrade specifically
Okay you're just retarded
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>>157328868
>EE upgrade is just shit compared to Renee's.
16% higher chance to get FULL STACKS and she lowers defense by 50% AND she gained like +20 in every category.

Yeah naw.

She is the best passer in the game.
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>>157328476
>/ssg/ already discussed this yesterday
>Multiple explanations of why Shura's EE is shit in this very thread
>Tries to drag out this topic once again
kys.
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>>157328868
That's proper balancing.
Shura is already good and huge EE buff would make her broken
Meanwhile Renee was good but not quite,now she can compete with other passers if you run an Ardor striker.
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>>157329223
We can tell from you retards saying Shura is worse than Renee and Cynthia and Nerua are bad that the "/ssg/" you're talking about doesn't know shit.
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>>157329317
Exactly. Just imagine Shura with the improved sharp pass Renee has.
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>>157328476
>Shura EE
>10% per stack defense reduction and a 10% chance increase
>Renee EE
>5% pass, 30% HP, and 30% DR
Renee EE was better.

>>157329146
+20 in every category
Shura gained 82 points upon EE, Renee gained 78. The biggest difference was in attack stat, where Shura gained 3 points more than Renee.

>>157329375
>/ssg/ is one person
Is anonymous posting is too confusing for you?
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Fucking darkcucks get a EE for a broken unit and all they do is shitpost
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>>157330317
Shura has more in every stat besides speed where she falls behind with 4 or so stats.

>>157330317
>>5% pass, 30% HP, and 30% DR

Sure that is more for Renee too bad Shura does her job better than Renee and lowering defense by 50% and increasing the chance for arguably the best passer passive in the game to active makes her do just that.
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>darkfags complain
>fucking darkfags eat a dick
>ardorcunts complain
>buffs when teehee :^)
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>>157330706
Can't wait for that Gaphyl EE to cuck more darkcuckelsteins ;^)
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>tfw still using willuka because no renee
just cuck me up senpai
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>>157330640
>being this dense
We are talking about what they gained upon EE, and Renee got a better EE.

Also Renee is still better for the common William/Elaine frontline, since she doesn't make a free pen spot and gives more damage than Shura.
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>>157330706
spot the buttblasted ww/dark cuck
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>>157331275
Keep memeing, doesn't change the fact that ardorcunts are the ultimate hypocrites and dindus of this thread.
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Reminder that Shura's debuff only lasts 5 minutes and that anyone who actually runs a dark team will know that it's hard to maintain with that time limit.

Reminder that the skill is rng based and isn't certain to activate/refresh.

Reminder to not listen to falseflagging ardorfags.
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this is just used to superb legendaries, right? there's no other secret reason i should be hanging onto it instead of feeding it to a 6-star?
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>>157331482
If you max superb a 6* littre you get a classic legendary random box
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>>157331238
Shura's EE makes it easier to kill the enemy GK, which is the most important thing in the match.
Renee's EE made her slightly more durable but she is still a free pen vs any decent opponent.

Renee's line buffs are Ardor only while Shura's Schrodinger and Inspiring II are better no matter what you run. Shura was always better than Renee as a passer.
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>>157331437
>be ardorfag saying renee upgrade was better
guess im falseflagging!
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is there a thunder light reflex ace?
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>>157331482
Only in the japanese version, in global server it gives 3 superbs, it should be in the description.
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So is Shura the savior of monodark or not?
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>>157331437
I run a Dark/WW team and its not hard
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>>157331716
No with those trash GKs lmao
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>>157331437
This is why you will never get buffs cunts
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>>157331716
No.
Monodark still only has two passers, decent at most strikers, a cm which is the only good thing about it because it's the most cancerous shit in the game still, useless attackers, an underwhelming backline, and two of the weakest goales.
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>darkfags have the two best assists
>complain
What the fuck
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>>157332018
kill yourself ardorfalseflaggerbabycuckfaggot
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anybody playing with vann yet? is he ridiculous?
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>>157331437
It's very, very easy to refresh, and it will last MORE than enough to do what it needs to do.

Elaine buff also only lasts 5 min are you going to tell me that's too short also?????
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>>157331437
>not playing speedy light/dark
you can only blame yourself
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>>157331629
William already has enough crit to reliably crit the strongest backline right now, there is no reason to change extra damage for extra crit rate.
Also, if you think that 30% HP and DR is just "slightly more durable" you are highly undervalueing it.
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>>157332018
>darkfags ONLY have
>two best assists
>one is legend
>another legend who is cm
>two of the weakest gks
>weak as fuck attackers that can't even penetrate victoria
>a backline that only works for mono dark that isn't even that good for lack of ees
>even with ees, it'd be shit because said goalies are two of the weakest
Nothing has changed.
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>>157332345
>forgetting alice
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>>157332458
>alice has been out there for a time now
>still hasn't changed anything about monodark situtation
Just like Uriel
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If Shura is so good, then why does no one use her?

Checkmate.
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Post league rank if you're gonna complain about Shura's EE
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>>157332278
>William already has enough crit to reliably crit the strongest backline right now
False. I Run Isillia with an EBM on the line and not every William of Metatron can crit me. Including the "good" ones.

>there is no reason to change extra damage for extra crit rate.
There is if people can't reliably crit. Also every striker isn't William and doesn't have 100% crit damage but have other damage modifiers that work with crit. Shura's debuff also effects the entire line so people that pen out get crit more and will die more. She also shreds DEF so there will be less Coop defense bullshit too.

>Also, if you think that 30% HP and DR is just "slightly more durable" you are highly undervalueing it.
That 30% DR gets decreased by EBM so it's non existant. Her extra HP doesn't mean shit if you hit her for 1k damage which most backline penetrators can do.
You're severely overestimating it.
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>>157332212
Elaine is better for multiple reasons,
>she doesn't need multiple stacks to actually make a difference
>it is guaranteed
>she usually gets her stack when she tries to steal or passes the ball, instead of only getting stacks when the opponent is trying to move out of the backline
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>>157332839
The enemy back line will act more often than 1 player, Shura stacks better
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>>157332839
I didn't say she's better than Elaine. Just that people are WAY overblowing the 5 min duration of her debuff. She is totally, TOTALLY fine, and a very strong passer.
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>>157332267
>Two slowest Attributes
>Speed team
Wut?


>>157332839
You're high. Elaine has to be the one to act to get her stacks up. Shura's stacks can proc on anything anyone in the backline does INCLUDING USING ACTIVE SKILLS
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>>157333041
Pretty sure actives dont count as an action unless its a steal/pen/shoot, but yeah Shura stacks faster
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>>157332586
>tfw she's been finishing more matches than my actual striker ever since i EE'd
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>>157332908
>70% chance
Elaine stacks way better. Shura would be much stronger if she stacked like Elaine does(25% defense and crit res reduction on the opposing line with an action).
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>>157332586
Because nobody is stupid enough to not use Baltheon or go Dark for that matter
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>>157333041
>inlcuding active skills
shitter detected. Active skills only counts if there is an action tied to it. So, skills like power-up and heal doesn't count.
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>>157333160
With a 70% chance she'll get 3 or 4/5 stacks easily
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>>157332345
Monothunder has an infinitely worse backline/goalie combination. At least monodark can protect their goalies with Patricia + Verister/Lucifer ace.
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>wake up
>literally no shu buffs
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>>157332586
Well, there are some people in galaxy that does use her, but I have been seeing much more Renees, since she synergizes much better with cancer frontlines.
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>>157332586

Last season I made it to Galaxy with Baltheon / Shura on the frontline and the crits just kept on coming.
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>>157333262
The opponent needs to move 6~7 times in average to get 4~5 stacks. Considering that Shura will die to the first thing passing through her, 3~4 moves is is a more realistic scenario, which will give her 2~3 stacks in average.
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>>157333582
Do you know how fucking easy it is for enemies in high level PVP to do multiple actions?

Do you even play the game?
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>>157333439
Which striker? And why not Elaine?
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>>157333582
5 player acting will get her 3-4 stacks, every back line has 5 players so she should get 3 stacks fast especially if you have someone who can tank
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>>157333692

Beatrice.

Because I don't have Elaine.
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>>157333710
She doesn't tank, you will only get the 5 opponent players to move if each backliner moved in an order that ends with Shura.

>>157333665
They will only move a lot if they can't breakthrough, which is not going to be hard, since Shura has zero survivability.
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>>157333253
>>157333123
It doesn't count as an action for a unit that stacks when they act.
IT DOES count for Shura's passive because an enemy using an active counts as an action.

I don't know if it's a bug or a feature but that' how it is. Thanks for showing how little you really know.
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>>157333123
>Shura stacks faster =/= stacks better
Each Elaine stack counts for 2.5 Shura stacks.
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>>157334027
I didn't say Shura will tank, I said someone

>>157334250
That wasn't the point dumbass, >>157332839 implied stacking on action is faster
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Yo, its the dude from earlier

I managed to get my hands on a free Beth account, how is she? Does she work well with milky?
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>>157334361
>Elaine is better
>she doesn't need multiple stacks
He never said that it was faster, just better. And getting an stack when you move is better when getting one when they opponent moves, especially on the frontline, that you want to move before your opponent. You probaly won't have a single stack on your first shot.
Again, faster =/= better.
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>>157333354
but there is, shu-ra :^)
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>>157334361
You can't read? This is why I said that the opponent will only move 5 times if they all move in an order that ends with Shura, other orders will not end with 5 players moving.
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>>157334364
Beth is ok as far as legends go, not amazing, not shit. If you like her you can go for it
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how much time and money would i have to invest to get like six 5-star players of the same color?
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>>157334962
How does she go with milky? That's what matters the most to me honestly
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Remove darkcucks
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>>157335360
You will never have Beth and Milky interact because Milky is a primarily front line unit, rarely backline, and Beth is midline

But both are light so hey light team
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>>157334548
>that you want to move before your opponent. You probaly won't have a single stack on your first shot.
seems perfect when nobody other than Lev really wants the first shot to count where just about all of their stats are poured into the first shot

It helps that the ball EVER reaching the frontline means it can only get back out of there when the opponent makes a move, and it's not hard to at least see the ball reach the frontline when no matter which line you're in, someone's making an attack at least once every minute

The game just gets faster and faster with every goddamn character having more ways to boost primary stats
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>>157335065
I guess about a month or two of playing should give you that for no money depending on your luck. It is faster if you are at a higher level though.
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>>157330706
At least ardorcucks arent complaining about broken EEs being shit
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>>157334548
First shots dont matter much now unless you have a power striker who depends on their active more than anything
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>>157335656
the long-time ardor players who'd been willingly using ardor mids against Meta all this time have no business being the topic of filthy esports
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>>157335430
Cool, thank you anon
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>>157335529
2 or 3 actions per team per minute should be more realistic. Also, The first shot counts for a lot of strikers, especially strikers like WIlliam and Sharr that spends their high Cooldown active on the first shot.
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>>157336173
S-shut the FUCK up you WWniggercuck!
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>>157334548
you're not going to finish most matches in the first shot anyway, so i don't see what's so bad about having a stronger second shot because of shura

my experience of using her with your typical victoria/meta/duke mid has been pretty funny though. aside from the fact that my striker holds the ball better because of the reflex totem, backliners usually just implode into giblets from taking over 1k+ crits at max shura stacks, even when they try to pen TW dook
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Shura nerf when? She's ridiculously overpowered now and is basically at instant lose for any ardor back line.
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>>157336173
>The first shot counts for a lot of strikers
not enough to act like not having a single stack from Elaine makes them worthless

and people haven't even gotten into the problem of the likes of Sharr being utterly defenseless against steals and penetrations due to not having a single goddamn relevant passive for it, so it helps more to have a debuff than a buff in such a case
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>/ssg/ thinks shura is op
I hate this meme and I hate you baddies.
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>>157336354
>you're not going to finish most matches in the first shot anyway
I know, but the problem is that Shura only stacks for your next shot, so it will always be a turn of stacks behind if you stacked before shooting.
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>>157336173
And thats why you're not gonna see Shura with Sharr/Willy but instead Renee
Womilly doesnt need active shots though
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>>157336635
>falling for WWcuck falseflagging
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>>157336339
>he doesn't even have 66 speed in his players
100 speed means moving once per minute. If your line has 3 players with 66 speed, you should move 3 times in 2 minutes. If you count in ATB shenanigans and that most players have more speed than that, you should move 2~3 times per minute.
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is everyone forgetting that along with Shura's 60% crit res/defense debuff she also has a 30% crit totem? shes literally always helping your striker
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>>157336635
>believing the ardorbabies lies
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>>157336354
That's a good point, I didn't think about how it makes backliners much squishier when they try to pen to the front. Very nice.
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>>157336173
>2 or 3 actions per team per minute should be more realistic.
I did say "at least one" to account for the poor saps who aren't even close to the point where their base stats are making them reach 60+ speed

>>157336992
and reflex, and while she won't be Elaine tier, it's not selfish reflex
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>>157336635
Its just FUN posting.
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>>157336468
>REEEEEEEEEEE 5 MINS IS NOT ENUF
>SHE IS DECENT :^)
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>>157336498
>not enough to act like not having a single stack from Elaine makes them worthless
Stop this strawman. I never said or implied that. I said that stacking before shooting is better than stacking after shooting, and that the first shot is not so weak to the point it is irrelevant except for the stacks.
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>>157337081
>teams that doesn't even have all their players lvl60 mattering
In this case even Hercules may be good for PvP, since players may not even have a full 5* team.
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Nice shitposting, good job everyone.
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>>157337172
I dont think so. Id like to stack AFTER shoot because GK will use active block and lot of dmg will be reduced.
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This thread is shit and has just spiraled into ad hominem personal attacks and name calling. Can be bring some civility back into this thread and discuss things that actually matter? Like how we should rape and bully the Milky.
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"Making your shoot stronger is better after shooting" anon, 2016
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>>157336650
not sure if i'm interpreting this right, but it depends on how your team is as always. my frontline is not very fast, so against 90+ AS backlines i usually lose the ball before i even get my first shot in. getting that second shot relies a lot on their backline fucking themselves up on my mid, so the back-and-forth between their backline and my midline works pretty well in building shura stacks early in the match
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>mfw one shot my way to galaxy league
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>>157337437
It is basically shitters thinking that their esports opinion matter because Shura is the only way their puny strikers can crit.
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>>157337172
>...I said that stacking before shooting is better than stacking after shooting
you're literally only looking at the downside of having a debuff version
debuffs will stay fucking forever on the enemy GK until it times out, buffs can get removed by death and now by the new WW legend

>>157337298
what's your point? Shura only gets more and more chances to stack up if the enemy gets fast, and my point is that there's no fucking way you can make the 5mins on enemy moving seem like a short time
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Give me 1 BHS, Juses, Im not asking for that much...
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Are ohko strikers pretty much obsolete now?
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>>157337742
Are you retarded? If the "poor saps" doesn't even have at least a full lvl60 team, their opinion literally doesn't count.
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>>157337839
>0 tp
Fuck off you bandwagoning shitter

>>157337968
Sharr can one shot her way to galaxy
so nah
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Should i...anon?
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>>157337968
If you mean "OHKO Strikers" as in "strikers that have everything happening on a long cooldown active" then yes

>>157338018
so your ONLY gripe is that my ballpark minimum number is too low? a MINIMUM number?
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>>157338053
Yes, specially if you're jcuck, so you can show us how much you care about your "cuties"
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>>157338235
You are rude.
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>>157338053
disgusting
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>>157338235
mine is +160'd and I'm never gonna give up on my Nari
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Most cancerous faggots

Ardor > WW > Light > Thunder > Dark
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>>157338326
I use Nari in PvE as reflex-bait with TW, but...esports are calling me
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>>157338331
>dark
>last
nice meme darkcuck
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>>157338146
>minimum number is too low
No, it is because you are considering incomplete teams for an esports discussion. For incomplete teams, anythng can be good or bad.
It is like saying that William maybe not so good because the "poor sap" may have not leveled or evolved him, and then keep on saying that you said "maybe".
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>>157338331
>ardor above cuckwind
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>>157338428
Having Baltheon and Metatron and Shura does not make Dark cancer.
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>>157338554
complaining about cancer players being bad does though
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What are the odds of virgil getting nerfed into oblivion soon? I'm about to invest a lot of gatekeepers into him in like 2 weeks.
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>>157338331
Ardor>Light>WW>Thunder>Dark
The problem is that Dark have the most cancerous player of all time, present on 90% of any galaxy team.
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>>157338331
>Light above thunder
wrong, my 3 man thunder mid can one shot the cuck and beth and have more reflexes to boot.
Plus I've been one shotting every light gk for the past few champ matches
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>>157338503
uh, sure, if you didn't read basically everything else in that post and the posts around it you make sense

>Shura's can reliably stack debuffs
>Even the weak teams are able to move at least once every minute
>Non-shitter teams should have much higher stats on average and henceforth has much higher speed, so Shura should be even better

I have absolutely no clue what your problem is
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>>157338674 ----> >>157338554
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>Players bandwagon to Shura
>They use her for a bit and finally come to the revelation that she's weak
>These people will complain about it
>BB will end up buffing all of dark's players
So, this really was the beginning of darball.
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>>157338848
Here's your (You)
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>>157338683
I said that 2~3 moves per minute was more realistic, and then you kept on complaining that you said "at least"
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>>157338848
This won't happen, only retards are bandwagoning to Shura. And since no one can understand retards, BB is probably going to misunderstand for nerf Shura, and make Dark even worse.
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>>157338848
>Shura
>Weak

Epic meme
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>>157339151
>btw i use Elaine, Sharr and Baltheon, also Angela
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I'm happy Shura got her EE just two weeks after I got her
I can finally replace this ugly cunt Linmay from my frontline.
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>>157339014
because you totally didn't understand the fucking conversation? your shitty example in >>157337298 was completely irrelevant because Herc gets worse and worse as the enemy gets higher stats so it's not even appropriate to mention the "at least" shit
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>>157339535
>ugly
>cunt
You gay?
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>>157339636
No, but I don't like knot lovers
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>>157339574
>Decreases the attack power of the enemies within the position by 60% and deals 20% HP as damage with a penetration.
Not him, but Hercules gets better and better the more Atk and HP the opponent has, even if he still is shit.
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>>157339636
yes
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>>157339948
Fuck off jcuck, no one likes you.
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>>157339947
>but Hercules gets better and better the more Atk and HP the opponent has
It's static scaling so you should have equal amount of faith in that one ability between weaker enemies and stronger enemies, and it's definitely not "good against stronger enemies because it's already good against weaker enemies"
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>>157340031
I leik him.
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>>157340185
You don't count jcunt
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>>157338675
>mono ww curb stomps monothunder because of elemental advantage
>monothunder still struggles with Virgil heal spam faggotry inspite of elemental advantage
Yeah that seems fair
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>>157340253
:(
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Disregard Shura. Acquire our hero Vann.
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>>157340179
Against players with higher HP, DR and multiple other stats, his own attack gets less effective, and he becomes more reliant on his % damage.
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>>157340261
>Thunder
>Struggling against Light ever
LOL. It's the worst matchup in the game. Virgil healing doesn't mean shit when Thundercunts will just snatch the ball away and blow you up.
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>/ssg/ says Shura is good because she lets your striker crit
>He thinks critting will make him do more damage
Not on my watch, cucks.
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>>157340261
>>157340261
>heal spam

Everyone does.
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>>157340459
>LOL. It's the worst matchup in the game.

No thats thunder vs WW
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>>157340468
You're such a joke
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>>157340468
>what is critdamage and critical resistance
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>>157340527
No that's ardor vs WW
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>>157340617
No that's light v dark
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>>157340430
Oh come on. His penetrating power is miles better than most cookie cutter players just by the trait of shitting out raw Dribble. He just has no other utility or reflex to make himself more useful than that.

You make it sound like players without damage related buffs (eg. Metatron) will do so little damage that they can't even hit for 20% of a player's health.
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>>157340593
>be legendary thunder striker
>1 non legendary thunder striker just as good as you
>2 non legendary thunder striker actually better than you
Being Leventor is suffering
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>>157340617
I cant see any problem here.
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>>157340757
LEL
Stop this, please. He is a shit, his Juggernaut means nothing, he cant penetrate properly like Jheet, Dook, Malcolm, Roina and other true attackers.
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>>157340757
But anon, what if the "poor sap" didn't level that skill? I said "may" or are you going to complain at me because of my ballpark minimum? a MINIMUM?
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>>157340916

> forgetting best girl
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>>157341064
Asakura a shit.
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>>157341064
Pretty sure Nari isn't an attacker
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>>157340916
>Jheet and Malcolm
>penetrating anything
They couldn't penetrate Milky's loose pussy if she was passed out in an alley with the words please penetrate me written on her body in permanent marker with an arrow pointing to her filthy whore pussy
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>>157340916
What are you on about? I'm telling you he's not so shit that he's fucking reliant on 20% HP damage. A character with NO FUCKING PASSIVES can hit for an entire HP pool just by having damage stones and maybe a buff or two. See the fucking shitters around this thread complaining about not being able to steal from Sharr.
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>>157341213
>what is 90% CAR and 1200+ reflexes
Anyway im using condoms.
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>>157341036
are you seriously thinking that anyone else will give a fuck about a conversation mistake that you made?
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>>157341292
Awww, man, i got you.
His passive was ruined with HP damage rework, Lynbell and Orses were affected by this too.
Now Herc can deal 100-200 dmg to """max HP""", but before this he was really strong.

Max HP rework when?
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>>157341401
My only mistake was thinking that you could follow a simple conversation.
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>>157341550
>>157339574
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>>157341474
>but before this he was really strong.
He was?
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>>157341997
He was never strong. He was a joke together with Celus and Robin before.
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>>157341474
I vaguely remember the general reaction being that the HP damage doesn't do enough to mean anything, same for old Roina.

That and the flood of people misinterpreting the attack power decrease as a lasting debuff
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Whoever is doing the next thread, please make an OP that will derail all this discussion.
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>>157342992
Ill do.
What Edition do you want? "Shura aint OP :^)"
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>>157343294
Leventor buffs when
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>>157343391
We had Thunder Theme today, time to change it.
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>>157343294
Something something bully the Milky something something old man semen.
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>>157343294
Best girl
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>>157343294
Loli slut ravian edition
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>>157343621
>>157343621
>>157343621
>>157343621

Come in.
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