/pg/ - Persona General

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Has SMT beaten Persona at its own game?

Phantom is from Sumaru City!

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Haru

>>157200485
Get that dogfucker outta here.

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>>157200485
Yeah

>>157200750
>tfw no qt monkey gf

Just beat FES but it's kinda late to start another purseowner game, so I'll start tomorrow.

What do I go with next, P3P or P4?

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More canon than the girls and Goro

>>157201014
P4 vanilla.

>>157201014
P4

femc is a meme stay away from her game!

>>157200594
What is she looking at?

>>157201014
P5

>>157201014
P3P, FeMC is the best girl.

>>157201125
my penis

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>>157201118
But anon, FeMC is a qt

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More canon than any other pairings except maybe Morgana

>>157201216
A forgotten corpse can't win anything

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>>157201253
He's not forgotten in my heart

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>>157201253
Au contraire, anon. Nyarly won the Gorobowl.

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More canon than the girls and Goro and Morgana.

>>157201450
there's something about that gif makes me absolutely furious

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>>157200948
feels bad man

>>157201253
P5 is duology though. Goro will save Joker.

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Which one do you prefer /pg/

明主 or 主明?

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Not canon at all please fucking kill me

Who was the holder of superbia? I have see people arguing whatever was MC or Yaldy.

>>157201253

Please. Goro has the most obvious "It looked like he died but he didn't" death scenes I've ever seen.

He'll almost certainly return in Persona 5 Arena/Dancing/whatever spin off name as they milk this for the next 5 years.

>>157201786
I was thinking maybe it was the MC too, but it's probably more likely that it's Yaldabaoth, since the sins represented the bosses. It could actually be both of them, though

>>157201820

lmfao yeah, that was my first thought too. I feel like when an anime character "dies" off-screen it probably means they're still alive

Especially since I think all Persona deaths have been shown on-screen

>>157201959
From the top of my head I only remember Jin dying off-screen

>>157201718
>loving a kid who literally let being a janny get to his head
You deserve it
>>157201374
>>157201450
>>157201624
>>157201820
>See: 5 Stages of Grief

>>157201645
Akechi is the one who tsunlusts for Joker, not the other way around

>>157201645
主明 because Goro needs the D, not give.

>>157201718
>he takes his "job" very seriously

obsessive repressed confessions of a mask yuki woulda been good but hey, what can you do

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>>157201718
I feel your suffering; actually, you probably have it better off since you're not a Ryujifag

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Am I making ze good theme?

>>157201645
主明 is superior.

>>157202135
Pretty sure the Nyarly post is "Acceptance."

>Persona 5-2 announced

>Game starts with Goro waking up from a dream, exhausted and surrounded by machines
>Immediately after he woke up we see Shadow Operatives staffs rushing and checking the equipments
>"Rescue attempt ## failed. Objectives are not yet achieved"

how mad would you be

>>157201645
What is the second one?

which persona girl would you go to a haunted house with.

>>157202656
>ripping off the cell but without any good cinematography

>>157202736
Anne!

>>157202656
As long as Nanjo is somewhere there, I think I'd be fine.

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>>157202736
Makoto.

>>157202694
First is Goro fucking Joker. Second is Joker fucking Goro.

>>157202942
How do you get that from those Kanji?

>>157203034
That's what it means in fujo language anon. It's basically the equivalent of a ship name. First name indicates who sticks their dick into the hole.

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>>157202736
I want to watch a little girl cry and scream.

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How will the PT including Goro and maybe Morgana react when you try to rape them? Who will fight the hardest, who will be most easy to mindbreak and who will try to endure it?

>>157203034
It's fujo speak, anon. There is a certain way to name your pair. Left kanji is top, right kanji is bottom.

>>157202656
>The name of the project: Project Sophia

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>>157202736
aoi

>>157203094
>>157203205
How do Japs even learn name kanji?

>>157201645
Funny how a lot of Jap fujos can't even decide between the two.

>>157203116
Her smell would repel the ghosts.

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What did you say to her?

>>157203868
She's a whore

>>157203868
check my 5

>>157203868
"Prostitutes can't be a waifu"

>>157203868
>My dad knocked up some older chick, and I inherited that fetish from him.

>>157204131
Jesus fuck that forehead is massive even without a shop.

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>Goro is the Slaine Troyard of P5
If only he was guaranteed to get the same kind of doujin material

>>157204197
All of their foreheads are huge, you just gotta lift up their bangs.

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>>157204131
What are you looking at?

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>Be Sadayo
>Get call for maid service
>Go to fat old man's house
>He leads you in and locks all of the exits and starts unzipping his pants
What do you do

>>157204286
GORO'S IN THE VERY BACK

>>157204272
if you look at where anne's part is, she probably has the most normal one

>>157204291
Tell him to bend over

>>157204231

An extremely popular character the show proceeds to shit all over because they want the main character to be the most popular character and are mad that he isn't.

>>157204356
SOOOOOOOPHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>157204291
Do my job and clean his knob

I'M COMIIIIING

>>157204476
I was more on simpler lines of
>pretty boy who suffers from start to finish with an underwhelming character resolution and still manages to gain sympathy despite fucking up a few times

But that entire thing with Inaho was so lame.

>>157204131
>ryuji missing
did he died

>>157204929
he's behind futaba

giving joker a blowjob

>>157204929
You can see his jacket right by futaba's chinny chin chin

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I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.

>>157205475
Your stupid

>>157204131
Goro in the backseat!

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>>157205649
>>157205475

>>157205649
>>157206180
''''''''your'''''''''

>>157206170
I read your comment to the tune of Friday
which seat can I takkeeeee

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Someone please tell Anne it's hard to sneak around with a boner

>>157206374
Why would Anne be the one with the boner?

>>157206374
i want to sneak my boner around anne

>>157206170

You know the sad thing is, if it wasn't for the anime cutscenes which allow for no final party variation because they all have to be in the premade and only have room for one of specially animated scenes, they'd probably have let you keep Goro as an optional character if you did stuff.

But since they had to animate all the important story scenes they didn't. It's also why we never get any optional party members in RPGs anymore.

>>157206374
what a boner condoner

>>157206568
the sad thing is i bet you really believe that

>>157204689

I blame Gundam Seed and Code Geass. They proved that you sell a series and make lots of money just if your lead character is popular enough, even if they aren't particularly well written or even doing anything interesteing.

As a result if the protagonist isn't topping the popularity polls now the staff panics.

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>>157206374

>>157206620

When was the last time you've seen an optional party member in any JRPG?

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>>157206732
Post more Anne.

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>>157206835
Anne is a samurai!

can you fuck your Persona?

>>157206707
Pretty much when you got Lelouch Lamperouge and Kira Yamato always stay on the top of popularity in Newtype for so long

>>157207005
Only Mara

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>>157206895
>Ryuji isn't Walter

/pg/ is dead! Like Goro!

>>157208423
to be honest a lot of the individual costume picks are a little disappointing, goro being the only one who gets more than just a school uniform for example

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What do you like on your pancakes, /pg/?

>>157209226
Cum

Has the save editor come out and how is it used? The only thing I want to do is change my name because I picked the wrong kanji.

>>157209281
>You will never cum on Anne's pancakes

Why even live?

>>157209445
>pancakes
Anne's annes are perky!

>>157209635
But she has pancake areolas.

>>157209635
I meant actual pancakes.

>>157209709
puffy master race

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>>157202339
>falls in love with Joker, then starts envying him because he wishes he were like him, only in the end to realise he simply loved him all along

Not bad, works for friendship route too unfortunately

>Playing Persona 3 in English after having played it in Japanese

I see why a lot of people say that Yukari seems like a bit of a bitch now. Her English VA is fine most of the time, but she done have that certain tone in her voice at times.

>implying P5-2 wouldn't be about stopping Joker in the Fake Igor accomplice end and trying to figure out what happened to the erased thieves
I mean people would call the group as it is, but probably would question why only one makes appearances if we go off by that bad end.
Only thing is who would be MC?
Hard mode: No Goro

>>157210162
Sae

Guus! Does anyone have the eboot fixed 1.02 patch for ps3 version? Please!

>>157210230
Seems like the most logical option desu

>>157210162
Morgana's true human form.

>>157210264
Guys*

>>157209180
/pg/ is a duology!

>>157210280
>>157210230
a lot of the adult coops would make cool party members too, tbqh

>>157210453
Goro will be the silent protag while Phantom will get his canon name! JunFuku's talent won't be wasted!

>>157210162
Yuki finally saves the day

>>157210960
but what element would st. sebastian use

>>157211105
Light and pierce.

>>157210762

It almost seemed like they were setting Sae up for that honestly, but decided it wasn't worth it for only two dungeons.

They deliberately don't steal her heart after all, have her ally with the thieves and she even mentinos wanting to see the other world, but then nothing comes of that.

Also her coop is the only one that doesn't do anything extra whatsoever.

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>>157211140

>>157211105
What St. Sebastian has to do with picarisque/roguish theme?

Also what's Yuki supposed Ultimate Persona?

>>157211179
At first I was thinking "Her Persona should be Atticus Finch" but then I remembered that Harper Lee is still alive.

>>157211140
He'd resist the latter though. Also good at healing and recovery from status effect spells.

>>157211219
desu I think Saint Seb works better as a Ultimate. You can count him as a rebel of sorts because of the whole Christianity stuff. Then who was Initial Persona

>>157211245
Harper Lee is dead.

>>157211219
Ganymede

>>157211280
>Harper Lee is dead.

Oh shit she died this year. But "To Kill a Mockingbird" won't be public domain until another 70 years.

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>>157211219
well really it just started as a further confessions of a mask reference, but you could justify it somewhat with him being martyred for preaching and all that

Fixed 1.02 patch, anyone?

>>157211280
But St. Seb is not a fallen godly being.

>>157211386
>Wasting all those arrows
This is why the Japanese economy collapsed.

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>>157211294
>everyone in PT's Persona is famous for stealing
>Yuki's is famous for getting stolen

Just get a hold of yourself man, damn it.

>>157211460
>japanese

>>157211460
An arrow to the knee is all it takes

>>157202736
Futaba and then leave her there.

>>157211245
Sae's ult should be Maat, so they could also throw Apep in as a boss for maximum poetry

>>157211179
Sae's persona is Sophia

Anybody got the webm of Goro flipping his hair during a hold up?

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>>157211801

>>157211793
I hope we can meme sophia into reality

How bad is The Answer?

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>>157211793
it all makes sense now

>>157211867
Thank you~

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>>157211871
Of all the crazy shit we've been spewing out I want duology, Sophia, Takashi Kido to all be memed into reality.

>>157211976
Spewing crazy shit is the most fun part of any game speculation

>>157211917

Pretty bad, unless you're that hardcore an Aigis fag.

>>157211976
let's hope hashino decides to go out with a bang

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>>157212057
I love how /pg/ couldn't make heads or tails out of lol2goro. Before that, folks were screaming "GORO = IGOR. IGORO!" or that Goro was the Demiurge in disguise as a human.

>>157212120
Is he retiring or something? Or wait is this just about him wanting to take a break from Persona

>>157212170
>GORO = IGOR
this was a pretty good short-lived memespeculation

>>157212120
I hope so too. If this is all we get for P5, then his retirement from Persona is a blessing. There needs to be new management for P-Studio.

>>157212250
I liked it as well.

Semi-related to that, if it weren't for all the references to past games in 5 I honestly would have thought they may be going towards the direction of a soft reboot

>>157212246

He says he's burnt out and wants to take a break before the next Persona.

Sega however, especially after Persona 5's rather impressive sales, will likely want him on Persona 6 and/or 5 spinoff's ASAP, especially with all those HD assets they'll likely want to use as much as possible.

Which means he's likely going to have someone else take over at least for a bit.

How hard is P5 compared to 3 and 4? I played and beat 3 on Normal without much trouble but I had to do 4 on easy cause I'm shit. I'm thinking of doing 5 on Normal again.

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>>157201535
My nigga

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Goro would make a good dad. He'd marry Sae and move to a nice cottage in the mountains and have 3 wonderful children, one of each gender, a handsome Boy, a beautiful Girl, and a Cat.

>>157211917
Early game is a slog because fuck shadows

It gets fun later on when you get better persona

Also most bosses are set up with same pattern
>weak to Lightning
>has Evade Elec as skill

Its either you roll the RNG or don't bother with weaknesses

The story is kinda bare but it does have some good moment. Metis is shit though lol

>>157202425
not really desu
I get what you were going for, I think, but it still looks like you made it in MS paint

>>157212317
Ah, okay. I wonder if they will get another director, then, or if Hashino wants Persona all to himself

>>157212431
He looks like a grandpa trying to look cool.

>>157212314
Honestly, they sort of did the same thing as 3, where it changes the 'rules' of the universe to the point where you could make a case that it's a very soft reboot, but also throws in explicit references and callbacks to the previous universe that place it in the same canon.

>>157212317
If they want spin offs, they will most likely use Wada for that

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>>157212467
It's even better with the Dance outfit, because then he looks like a white kid trying to look gangsta

>>157212492
Ah yeah, you're right. I forgot about the P1 and P2 references in 3.

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>>157212492
The Nanjo Group reference is what gets my tinfoil hat crinkling.

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>>157212568
>Tadashi will never come back again to write one big fucked up behind the scenes Persona experiment storyline uniting all the little hints in the games

Why do you even play persona?

If you want waifus other series like Danganronpa has superior one
If you want demon SMT is clearly superior

Lol

>>157212736
Here's your (You)

>>157212736
We play persona for the time management simulation

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>>157212675
eh, imo in-universe conspiracies are at their best when you never get all the details, just hints and suggestions to create the feeling and impression. the uncertainty and the sense of scale that comes through in uncertainty are what make them really compelling as aesthetic and tonal devices

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>he still hasn't been executed

>>157212736
But I want waifus and demons in the same game.
and I've already played IV

>>157213004
oh god please no
what does it say other than that the world is shit?

>>157212492

Except for one and two, every Persona game has basically done that.

And while they're willing to cross 3 and 4 and presumably 5 over, they refuse to touch anything pre Hashino with more than the occasional reference.

Of course the fact that Persona 5 was supposed to be set in 2016, but was changed to not specifically stating the date, is pretty much just for crossover purposes.

>>157213096
>Why did you hang all those dead bodies on antennas and telephone poles?
>Dunno, cause the world is shit
>What kind of reasoning is that, shame on you!

>>157213108
what would not explicitly stating the date have to do with crossovers?

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>>157213148
thanks

>>157213108
The every day dates make it obvious it's 2016 though.

>>157213108
>but was changed to not specifically stating the date
It's so stupid that they don't have a year for this game. Persona has never shied away from saying what year it was. P1 didn't have an official year since the game was the first, but with P2 it gave you the answer.

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Why is Ryuji such a bully?

>>157213198

So they can crossover with 4 without having the cast of 4 be in their 20s probably.

>>157213108
I swear I remember hearing there was a story reason as to why the year wasn't specified but now I can't remember

Maybe that was speculation actually

>>157213349
But it's mentioned in one of those TV things that Chie (name not given but obviously Chie) is already studying to become a cop.

>>157213349
Anon that is literally impossible considering the fact that the game either takes place in 2016 or 2022.

>>157213352
WE PUT A PALACE IN YOUR PALACE SO YOU CAN HAVE A PALACE.

>>157213352
because it's a timeloop and they're all inside another palace and sophia is behind it all, just wait for P5:EP!!

it's because they delayed the game so much that now their near-future year is the present

Futa

>>157213314
Jesus how mean

>>157213464
ba

>>157213439
>that now their near-future year is the present

P1 and IS were released on the years they take place in. EP takes place in Fall 1999, but the game was released in 2000.

>>157213439
lmfao yeah, the delay thing. I actually was thinking that might be why

I swear to god I heard something about time travel but that HAS to either have been total speculation or it was a badly translated line about the timeskips involving you being interrogated by Sae, that would be too big of a thing to give away anyway

>>157213494
>waaah why does my poor boy get the same treatment as everyone else waaah

>>157213508
yeah but if you look at the pattern with 3 & 4 and the original advertised release date, it matches up

>>157213314
Got what he deserved

>>157213515
people thought the butterfly sent tyou back in time after Potter got caught, that why he was so pissed on the train

>>157213557
Persona 3 was not released in 2009, nor was P4 in 2011.

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>>157213314
>that hand wave

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WEW

Goro official art incoming

I decided to go back and read some the interviews now that the game is out. Speaking of Wada, he said some interesting (and vague) things in an interview that I forgot about.

>>157213618
Does Philemon ever really make an appearance or was that butterfly Lavenza around the end?

>>157213715
>brown eyes
i swear to god

>>157213736
just Lavenza

>>157213416
>Anon that is literally impossible considering the fact that the game either takes place in 2016 or 2022.

Or it takes place in 200X, an unspecified made up year that doesn't correlate to any real world calendar.

>>157213715
:O This must be a scan from a magazine?

>>157213736
I think it's supposed to be Lavenza, although a blue butterfly does appear when you use a Revive skill also.

>>157213716
>he said some interesting (and vague) things in an interview that I forgot about.

Do you remember some of those things? What did he say?

>>157213716
Do you have any links?

>>157213716
like what? He wasn't even working on P5

>>157213759
>>157213771
Shiiiieeeet so for once there is no Philemon? How could Soejima let this happen?

>>157213768
No anon, it's never worked like that ever.

" I cannot announce a game at this point, however the year 2016 is the 20th anniversary for the Persona series. Starting with Persona 5, this year will increasingly become one that represents “Persona.” With this being a year with many things in preparation, I want to continue reaching out and collecting feedback."

It's really vague but perhaps we'll get to see some more things for P5 before this year ends. Probably not anything huge, though, would be my guess

>>157213715
>Goro official art incoming

Isn't he already has it? Except for his heist costume and Robin hood.

>>157213840
P5 happens in the universe where Yu and MC didn't save that butterfly in PQ

>>157213768
m8 c'mon

>>157213897
The humanity ends when there is no Philemon.

>>157213870
Or maybe more crap like concerts, anime, manga and stuff. I doubt P5 is getting any more additions than clothes and music DLC this year.

>>157213870
PQ2
Hashino said in one of interviews before P5 was out that they have something to announce but he wants everyone focus on P5 first

>>157213840
>>157213901

You say this now. But watch they use 20XX for every Persona game from now on.

>>157213870
I feel like having too much hope will be bad for my heart.

>>157213941
Yes, probably. I think it's too late in the year for anything else big to happen regarding P5 in 2016

>>157213004
>>157213096
>>157213148

wait back up a second, there's a tv program in the game that references adachi and the events of p4? I'm surprised, this is my first time hearing it

>>157213982
Then why would they reference older versions of Chie and Akihiko, among others

>>157213923
they just found a replacement
or he freed himself at some point and was so pissed, he left after he was done watching over Yu in P4
>>157214026
Akihiko, Katsuya and Chie too
allegedly there is more but who knows

>>157214026
There is another one that references Katsuya, Akihiko, and Chie on the same day.

So chances are there are more that we don't know about.

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>>157214070
>finding a replacement for Philemon

Anyone playing the game that can read moon, please look at the TV every day!

>>157214154
no one cares about P1 and P2, grandpa
they can do whatever they want and push whatever bullshit they want

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>>157214070
>they just found a replacement

>>157214070
igor got promoted obviously, thats why he can give out wildcards now

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>you will never have a non blood related imouto like futaba
why go on

>>157214320
Igor's a simulacrum.

>>157214320
that was Yaldybaldydoo

>>157214415
whoops that's right

>>157214415
which is actually even more unexplainable

>>157214463
just like how he managed to kidnap Igor

>>157214463
How does he manage to give out pic-a-nic baskets if that's Philemon's job?

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>>157214402
Igor is a resident of the Black Lodge

>>157214484
How did no one notice Igor was gone for 2 years?

Talking about unexplainable things
How the fuck did Potter and Ryuji enter Kamoshida's palace by accident?
It's established later on you need the name, location, and how the target perceives it

But the app reacted to "pervert teacher" and "castle"

>>157214556
literally
made
for
ryuji

>>157214567
I guess other Attendants died

>>157214484
>>157214489
>>157214567

Even if you want to just ignore all the rest of the weird shit in the game, this is still here and it sticks out like a sore thumb

>>157214596
The twins mention their older sisters when you defeat them.

>>157214583
what's up with that time stop at the beginning
>>157214634
That was Lavenza's memory. Only Justine talks about that and Caroline has no idea what she's talking about.

>tfw my gf looks exactly like Anne

love it

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>>157214590

>>157214623
Seriously, how does a being that is more powerful than the attendants get kidnapped like that? He wasn't even in danger with Izanami or anything like that.

>>157214796
p5 is a mess
modern hashino can't handle

>>157214796
to be fair, Izanami didn't target him directly
Actually, what was the point of taking over the VR when Goro had no idea about it and helping Potter goes against his plan?

> There’s a lot packed into the game; I almost wasn’t sure if we’d be able to compact it all down into one game. I don’t think you’ll be able to experience everything in a single playthrough.

From another interview

>>157214901
> There’s a lot packed into the game
>the game ends on 12/24 and does nothing else
kek

>I don’t think you’ll be able to experience everything in a single playthrough.

Well that's a damned lie. Some people have reported being able to do all the Co-ops and mementos in P5.

I hope you guys don't mind me posting these random interview snippets; I'm just posting things I find interesting. It's fun to go back and look at these things once the game is out

>>157214970
But you have to do mementos to beat the game

>>157215028
I'm fine with it. Post more if you find anything interesting.

>>157214885
to surprise the player

really, there's no non-meta reason for it

>The heroes are people running in high spirits alongside what they believe is the side of justice, but you might even end up sympathising with the enemy. According to how you play, it can evoke a variety of feelings, so we’ve implemented certain mechanics accordingly.

sounds like the coolest thing ever that definitely never happened at all :^)

>>157215082
These niggas put Pinocchio to shame.

>>157214840
I prefer it when writers do things like soft reboots and choose to ignore what was previously established if it's just going to be inconvenient to the current direction of the series. Igor's just an unexplained entity at this point, Atlus can do whatever the fuck they want with him.

>>157215152
If Igor is such a damn burden to continue, then why have the real Igor continue to exist in the end? Atlus needs to get their shit together.

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>>157214681
I think the time stop is just for dramatic effect.

>>157215152
continuity was a mistake tbqh

>>157215228
is that line voiced?

>>157215228
>fuhahaha
>serious expression

Lol

>>157215237
How are you insult my tinfoil hat.

Apparently, there are 22 Co-op cards on the main website's Co-op section?

>>157215305
It's just missing Goro, Sae and Potter's world

>>157215281
alex jones in persona when

>>157215305
Yeah, Justice, Judgment and World are not revealed yet for some retarded reason.

>>157215383
World, huh?

Why would that be on the Co-op page, though? That's weird. Has that happened before?

>>157215418
I don't think other games had S.Link page in general.

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>>157214697

>They will never be truly canon

Why even continue to play?

>>157215383
>>157215407
Maybe >>157213715 is a hint the missing profiles are coming?

>>157215489
might be

Speaking of that, Sae's colors look much better in her official image than in portraits.

>>157215536
Yeah, they really do

I think it's a little strange that World would have a spot on the Co-Op page, when World is not a Co-Op

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>>157215418
>>157215407
>>157215383
>>157215489
There's only 2 blank cards. It's just Sae and Goro

Also there are 2 weird arcana cards. Death doesnt have any words and Sun is somehow written as XVIII instead of XIX

Also my dead works at Atlus and this best girl is Aeon arcana in Persona 5 : Ultimax Golden FES

>>157215574
And isn't even relevant for 99.9% of the game, since Potter just gets it at the very end and there are no World Personas, including InO DLC.
There isn't really any other option though.

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>>157215609
It's XVIIV you nigger. Even so what the fuck does that number means?

>>157215686
It means they can't into Roman numerals.

Looks like Goro was just added to the site, where your party members are

There's still 2 blank cards

>>157215609
One between Ryuji and Futaba; Goro
Two at the very end; Sae and World

In Tarot of Marseilles, which is the deck P5's cards are based on, Death doesn't have name written on it and it's also called "arcana without a name",

>>157215686
wait if you look closer it's just XVIIII notice that the 'I' has top and bottom lines.

Nothing weird there

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>>157215686
>XVIIV

>>157215686
is this bait? lul

toranosuke fags everyone

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>>157215713
Goro has been on the character page for a while

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I want being punished by Mako-chan

>>157214567

From what I've gathered the residents of the Velvet Room, P2 guys included just kind of chill out in whereever they're dimension or whatever is until Igor calls them if he needs them to work the room for the guest.

They figured Igor just didn't need them. 2 years isn't that long a time to them since they're immortal god created creature things.

Lavenza meanwhile was split into Caroline and Justine and therefore had their memories screwed up so they didn't notice anything was up with "Igor"

>>157215859
Has he? Everyone else made it sound liek he wasn't there, ah well

There's still 2 blank cards though, one is Sae and the other is presumably World but idk why the fuck it'd be there

>>157214796

Have they ever mentioned how powerful Igor is or is him being stronger than his attendents just a guess?

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>>157215892
You're being confused, we are saying Goro is missing from the co-op page, not the character page

The co-op page has three blank cards, not three (two at the very bottom of the page, one between Ryuji and Futaba, the latter being obviously Goro)

>>157215892
He's there but no arcana is associated with him.

So are we missing something to trigger extra dungeon? Do we have to rely on NA-fags to spoonfeed us the way?

>>157215936
Margaret mentions that she never managed to beat him, from what I remember
And when you fight her, she implies Liz never managed to beat her

>>157214885

I was under the impression not-Igor wanted Shido taken down for some reason. Hence why he doesn't appear until he's defeated.

That's also why he backed Goro, as Goro planned on taking him down too in his own way.

>>157215965
If you guess the protagonist's canon name, you will get rewarded with the last day dungeon and true end.

>>157215937
OH. I'm sorry. Yeah I am really confused, I have a bad headache and the site's bright red wasn't doing me any favors

Thanks for clearing that up

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>>157216003
>I was under the impression not-Igor wanted Shido taken down for some reason

What made you believe that?

>>157216003
why would a perfume bottle give a shit about some politician and give two fuckboys wild card to take him down when it's trong enough to kidnap Igor and could annihilate baldie without even lifting a finger, especially when it's endgame is destroying the entire world and rebuilding it for whatever reason
and he only appears because PTs get to the bottom of Mementos

>>157216053

The fact that he gave the two wild cards to the two guys that had the most chance of hating Shido's guys. His bastard unloved son, and the guy he got put on probation unfairly.

And then he supplies Joker with the app and Velvet Room services (and also gives the app to any party members you get) and supports him up until Shido was taken out which is when he tries to get rid of Joker.

All seems to hint at him wanting Shido and his conspiricy taken out.

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>>157216152
>Yaldabada was actually Goro's mother all along
>Named Sophia
>Grew resentful of Shidou and decided to use her son and Potter to get rid of him

Guys WTF

http://persona5.jp/character/narukami.html

>NARUKAMI
>NARUKAMI
>NARUKAMI
>NARUKAMI

>>157216312
0/10

>>157216152
But then why'd he pitch Potter and Goro against each other? Shouldn't they work together?

>>157216152
Maybe the goal was seeing how they try to work towards the same end with different means and backgrounds, as a sort of experiment in microcosm.

actually why did he have them competing in the first place, it wasn't just a retread of izanami was it?

>>157216403
it was
except even more retarded since at least Izanami planned to back off for 50 years again if Yu had won. Yalddaboy wanted to nuke everything from the beginning regardless of who wins

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>>157215686
You know that's just XVIIII?
It's not -strictly- required to do the "one less" thing.

>>157216453
Izanami was also just doing what humanity wanted. Yaldere didn't seem to follow that? Only made a bet with itself because reasons?

>>157216674
It's never entirely clear why yaldabaoth made the game when he rigged it for himself to win anyways.

T R U E
E N D
D L C

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Whatever happened to this motherfucker?

>>157216764
Even daddy-issues-no-okami had reasons for doing what he did. Yaldy doesn't seem to have any "excuse" and goes about it stupidly.

>If heads, I destroy the world
>If tails, I'll destroy the world anyway because I hate it.

>>157216764
his plan is nonsensical and self-defeating because he's just an unknowing pawn and sophia is behind it all

>>157216936
he's doors now

>>157216940
Well Yalda in the original Gnocticism was a fucking asshole too

>>157216940
What a manchild.

it honestly would've made more sense if the whole "game" had Yaldy supporting Goro and Igor supporting Joker normally imo. the way it is just makes the whole thing feel dumb and doesn't prove anything in the end other than the obligatory MC saves the world trope.

>>157217008
Yes but every big bad in Persona except Pandora has tried to fuck around because humanity secretly wanted to die or suffer, Nyarlathotep even states he's doing it because that's what humans want, bet aside. SQQ Nyx says she'll be back when people start getting suicidal and in despair. Pandora gets the pass because she is Maki's nihilism and does not reflect all of humanity.

But Yaldo? What is his excuse if he comes from humans?

>>157217219
Maybe as EOPs there's something we've been missing that nips did not.

>>157217219
humans are cunts

Well, he responded to humanity's wish to be slaves. That's why the first time you fight the Grail, it's in that cool as fuck room with humans in cells and you hear them begging to be slaves and telling PTs to fuck off
Destroying the world doesn't really fit in this everything though. Fire Eva had the same problem.

>>157215937
Translation? Please, do it.

>>157215937
>>157217381
>g: I...
>g: Now that i'm by your side...
>g: I feel like an idiot...after all this time

It's not word-for-word but I tried to convey the meaning.

>>157217320
Yald is the gnostic interpretation of god so I think it works well enough that since humans wished for him to be in control then he can just choose to punish mankind for getting out of line whenever he wants, old testament style. Tokyo being flooded with water at the end there seemed like a visual reference to the noah's arc story imo.

>>157217778
but destroying the world would also destroy the people who wanted to be controlled

>>157217860
Fair point. Did he ever elaborate about what "destroying the world" actually entailed?

>>157217991
nuking and then remaking everything

>>157217860
>>157217991
Didn't he wanted to ''recreate the world'' or something about those lines

>>157217991
>>157218025
>>157218042
Trail and error. He want to destroy the world because there's human like Phantom Thieves. He want a world where every human is on complete subjugation, no other resistance ike PT or anything similar.

>>157218086
why not just destroy the PTs if they're apparently the only thing that is wrong

>>157218086
*Trial. sorry for the typo.

>>157218127
well he tried and then uncle Satanael happened

>>157218086
PTs only became a thing 2 years after he gave Goro a WIld Card, so his retarded game has already started

>>157218208
But he predicted that Goro is nothing like PT. That's why he let him run wild, in fact Goro's unconsciously did the job for Yaldabaoth by adding more slave trough berserk power.

>>157200419
Where is this Morgana picture from?

>>157218379
from his PS4 theme

>yfw it is revealed that Yaldabaoth wants to subjugate humanity to please or attract the attention her mother, Sophia,

>>157218546
god with mommy issues!

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>>157218546
>>157218568
Delet this

Realistically, how high is the chance we're all being rused by the developers?

>>157218025
>>157218042
>>157218086
Ah, so it was basically like Kagatsuchi periodically destroying the world and starting over in Nocturne (at least I think that was the gist of it, it's been a while)? In that case when Yaldy talks about what humans want and you see the slave people saying that want to stay that way, that may well just be brainwashing. Maybe Yaldy doesn't represent any human desires at all this time and he's just a dick who enslaved everybody and then planned to destroy the world when he started to see resistance.

>>157218736
Not very high I think. Atlus isn't really that kind of dev.
They did leave some suspicious things but is it really a ruse if we can already see it coming?

>>157218736
I'd say very low. they're probably looking all over threads and twitter going "shit we should've come up with something" rn.

>>157218436
So he ripped it from the PS4 theme. How?

>>157218893
>p5 arena is going to be written by just mushing together everyone's wild theories

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>>157218965
no idea but it's apparently doable

>>157216963
I mean the artist.

>>157219015
atlus has been in these threads forever of course they'll do that

>>157219176
he's still active and people post his new strips from time to time, why?

>>157218736
Not very high. To me, everything that anons have found suspicious just seem like deliberate sequel hooks, remnants of cut content or oversights.

>>157219246
Oh, really? I've only ever seen like 4 PS4 strips.