/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

Nodevs unite!

it's kind of funny /agdg/'s two favorite words were both coined by two of the biggest shitposters here.

>>157180450
hmmm?

>>157180538
nodev and yesdev
nodev = started by stella who rampantly shitposted for months with his schizo personas
yesdev = gaggems

>>157180654
Who cares? Those aren't their words.

i have two weeks to learn to yesdev

yes devs are not amateur anymore

>>157180938
you can do it my man, I believe in you

I'm gonna see my game in a week and a half
we're gonna have so much s*x xD

>>157181005
I believe I could but i have no ideas for spooky gaem

>>157181204
Make a game that constantly reminds you that you're actually a skeleton trapped inside a meat suit.

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I'm making progress!

+finally managed to get the player to move on the grid
+finally got the enemies to follow the grid
+teleporters are working
+collisions are working

-enemies get misaligned when they both try going to the same spot?
-enemies sometimes ignore other object collisions

I need to get the player to walk from spot to spot instead of just teleporting though.

>>157180191
>no http:// garbage
alright

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I just love dealing with lists inside of lists.
So why not having to deal with lists inside lists inside a grid inside a map inside a map?

how do you make a company name?

>>157181484
Nice boku clone.

Anyone have an idea for me to model something? Something nonliving would be preferred.

>>157181872
A shrubbery

>>157180191
why the fuck the new thread when previous one was still 660 replies?

>>157179154

pls respond

>>157181872
my game

>>157182094
Only if I can hold hands and _lewd__ them

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>>157181872

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can I get some thoughts on this? My first serious 3d model in 5 years, and my 2nd serious 3d model ever.

>>157182248
>low poly
>serious

is a ds_list the best way to store a group of numbers in gm?

>>157182094
there's no point in asking here, you should know that by now.

>>157182248
not bad, increase texture resolution

>>157181872
A skeleton

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Well some Anons from /jp/'s OC thread suggested that I make lolis get bullied and stuff. What do you guys think? Right now there's functionality for lolis to get rejected from joining a group activity (like in this gif 's tag, except in this one they all say yes - if there's less than 50% that say yes, they don't join), and it'd be pretty easy to just make it affect the loli's mood negatively if she gets rejected, although I don't yet have functionality to make her remember the rejection itself and associate it with other lolis, unless I start using the concept-association thing and having 1 node for every single NPC in the town... maybe I *should* do that? (cont more in next post)

>>157130306
>>157130575
>>157130670
>lolidev was attacked and rarely posts
>He just came back tho, he essentially didn't post from the start of the year until recently.

That was because I was really busy with IRL stuff and didn't have time to make much progress. I don't give a flying shit if I get "attacked" here - I'm still going to post progress when I make it.

>>157181442
you meanthat we're a brain strapped inside a skeleton

>>157183660
>>157181442
Pls anons

i wanted to make spooky game, not get spooked

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Anyone here knows about SWF sprites on GameMaker: Studio? I have some questions.

>>157183863
no
We don't dev in this thread.

>>157180450
agdgs favorite words are just like make game though

>>157183912
Shit, maybe I'll have better luck in Reddit.

I am gonna eat out my game

>>157183447
Neat

>>157183447
>>>/jp/
should've known
in case the response I got last time was fake: why are you making this?

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>>157183447

So about that concept-association thing, I was going to construct a big graph where each vertex is a concept and there are weighted edges between vertices if they're related, then I can use some algorithms (log-transform shortest-path into doing multiplicative longest-path due to weights being in the interval (0, 1], and also another approach where I use markov chains on the graph to compute how association flows through it over a number of steps)

Here's an example pic. Like for example the association between Daddy and bad gets not just stuff from daddy->pain->bad, but daddy->rape->pain->bad, and so on, in lesser amounts in the markov chain model, but in the multiplicative largest path (since probabilities - largest corresponds to short paths with high probabilities) would only consider one. I might use a hybrid of both.

I'd have to construct a base-graph out of maybe 100 things or something as a base, then let the loli's experiences build the rest and influence the weights. Although I don't know how well it's gonna work in practice, like you might get a loli that associates red->blood->rape/pain, so every time she sees a red car she'll get triggered and start crying hysterically or whatever.

And for what I was talking about earlier, I could like make another vertex for the player, every NPC, etc, and then maybe start a query from " good" and one from "bad" and then using those to determine whether they want to let a loli into their game, and then if they get rejected, they could increase the weight of the edge from tag--rejection and also sally---rejection (if sally was the one who said no), and then rejection would be built-in associated with bad I guess, which would make them not like the other girl as much.

Or should I rely more on a simpler system where I just increment/decrement some "like" variable that every loli has with every other one? Or maybe a mix of both?

>>157184167

I'm glad you think it's neat.

>>157184789
I imagine all the great things you could be doing but instead you waste your time on such filth

>>157184697

What was the response? I get asked that a lot, so chances are it was actually me, assuming new progress was also being posted at the same time.

I'm making it because:

1) I want it to exist. If I don't create it, it won't exist.
2) I enjoy creating all the systems for the game.
3) Why not?

I might have also answered you with something like "it must exist".

Although I did also obviously expect something a lot simpler that would be finished quickly when I first started making it...

>>157184963

I do other things as well. Why do you think I didn't make any progress on it for 10-11 of the last 12 or so months?

>>157182183

what about if you could become a magical girl and just like make game

>>157184789
This seems like an interesting concept map, please post progress if you ever test this

I have a female protagonist with massive tits! What should the gameplay be?

>>157182248
Face is bland, add some simple shapes or textures to break it up.

>>157186450
ask charlottedev

I have enough free time and autism to learn to dev, but not enough talent to ever art or music

can I ever yesdev

>>157181512
I'm glad you approve now. love you <3

>>157186701
nah

>>157181159
why the fuck is there a grid if the enemies dont even care about it when they move

>>157186701
I was once like you in highschool. Just keep making small games to keep your mind occupied, and to sharpen your skills. I started off programming and learned very good audio skills, and meh visual skills. This happened over about 4 or 5 years

>>157187026
It's fucking stupid
I can't click links

>>157187142
Use 4chanX, I can click all of them.

>>157180191
I always hear about unit testing and shit like that. But I'm still a newbie programmer. How important is unit testing, and how do I properly do it?

>>157187142
>he doesn't have auto-embed links

>>157187363
Unit testing is actually rarely done in the small-time devs industry, at least in Vancouver. It is super useful if you know how to do it properly, just keep in mind in video games unit testing can only test things like calculations, boolean values, and such. It also takes a lot of work, but makes for a more stable game.

You should look up some tutorials online, as it changes from language to language and even sometimes engine to engine.

>tfw my favourite part of devving is debugging
This isn't normal, is it?

>>157180191
those urls are incomplete. please specify the protocol

>>157186701
>not enough talent
>I have enough free time
if you got free time you got this
skill = 20(talent) + (effort)^2
skill is bounded by effort. just try and do it
also you can just use placeholders for art and music, they're not essential to game design and mechanics

>>157187363
In games, unit testing is mostly only useful as a check to ensure you're keeping things decoupled. There's not a whole lot you can actually test with unit tests.

That said, engines tend to force you into making highly coupled messes of gameplay code so you'll probably not find unit testing helpful at all.

>>157187712
It's mine too. My least favorite is attempting to understand how I'm supposed to code things but after they're done looking for little mistakes is comfy. I don't mind spending the whole day looking for a missing =.

>>157187712
Mine is too
>tfw no bugs
>lose all motivation to work on game cuz theres no problem to fix

>>157187854
>skill = 20(talent) + (effort)^2

What you're not mentioning is that the range of talent, effort is [0, 1)

>>157187085
Why do 2D.5 characters move only left and right when the world is 3D and most of them have enemies that move in 3D space and not only left and right?

What is it about Mega Drive / Genesis sprites that somehow look different from SNES sprites? Is it just the palette? I know the limitations are practically the same, yet there's something about MD/Genesis sprites that just... look sega if you know what I mean?

「27 days left before demoday」

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>>157188604
...what?

>>157188935

The MD has way fewer colors iirc.

>>157188604
>2D.5

fuck off please

>>157187854
>>157188164

more like
>skills = talent * efforts
Talents without efforts won't go anywhere
Efforts without talents won't go anywhere too

but nobody is absolutely talentless.
so it's a matter of how much talents u have.
if u have less talents, you need to give double, triple or even more efforts than the talented person.

>>157188935
Genesis sprites look like they have more contrast to them, while snes sprites look more smoother if you catch what I mean. Probably because snes palette was bigger and hence had more shades of each color

>talent is a quantity fixed at birth

puny humans, bound by their own lies

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still some issues, but how is this looking?

>tfw not talented enough to draw cute 2d girls

>>157189848
this map looks like it would be really good for a farming sim
lil crop rows behind the house, an orchard in the boxed in path section, comfy af

and the problems with nodevs here is that they refuse to put in efforts.
They expect to let their talent to do all the works.
while a talented person will put in more efforts than these faggot nodevs here.

Ever make something, leave it for a while, then go back to it and actually take a look at it, and think "I actually have no idea how this is working this should be broken"?

>>157190018
good! I'm excited to play around with tasteful use of color for crops and things

>>157187854
>>157188164
>>157189338
There's no such thing as "talent." There's only the capacity to self-analyze, honestly judge the quality of your own work, and pick up on the hundreds of little mistakes you make that are holding you back. A good teacher can help you do this. Some people are alert enough to be their own teachers, but they never manage to do even that unless they practice enough to make all those mistakes in the first place.

I seriously hope you guys don't believe anyone that isn't talented enough isn't putting effot into what they do

>>157189848
Maybe you could overlay the map with a filter to make it seem old? Scratches, coffee stains, that kind of filter.

>>157189848
I really like the idea of making a game in a similar style to this, just as a learning exercise, but I don't know how the fuck to do it without making it a survival game or a dungeon crawler.

>>157190091
Yeah. Pretty much every old project I made.

Trying to escape my nodev existence here. I've mocked up a simple scene in Unity with a plane and a couple of super low poly "rocks" (about 80 tris each), with nothing but the default material and standard shader. With the standard FPS character controller I'm getting 60-75fps with a frametime of about 18ms. It feels and looks like shit. Is there some setting I don't know about that is causing this?

>>157183447
>>157184789
I think you should go with the map. You've come so far already. No need to half-ass it.

>>157190245
>There's no such thing as "talent."
so, you meant to tell me, if we gives everybody the same amount of time and practice, they can be equally good at something?

>>157190359
yea, the map definitely needs some art loving, but I'm going to try to iron out the functionality first
>>157190361
The way I do it is think about what I want to motivate the player to do and how I want to motivate them then pick out mechanics from other games I think will accomplish that.

>>157190294
>I seriously hope you guys don't believe anyone that isn't talented enough isn't putting effot into what they do
There's people that isn't talented enough and had put huge amount of efforts into what they do, yes.

But there's countless more people that isn't talented and yet blame on that instead of putting in efforts.

I thought your tiny brain would had knew that since you're here on /agdg/

>>157187464
>>157187242
im on mobile

>>157190885
Yes, but only if they get the same QUALITY of practice, which as I said requires either a good teacher or the capacity to be your own teacher. If nobody notices your mistakes, you never learn. The person who notices them doesn't have to be you, and being able to notice your own mistakes doesn't make you more skilled (ie. more "talented") than someone who needs a teacher.

What could you POSSIBLY gain from having this discussion?

>>157191068
>this whole post
Kek

>>157191194
Your heart <3

>>157191194
My game will get horny

>>157191068
>tfw to smart for gamedev

>still thinks about / brings up namefags from long ago
>nobody remembers or knows who you're talking about
>still do it anyway
Remember to kys

>>157191194
Troll: Gets easy (You)s with obvious logical fallacies
Well Intentioned Autist: Soothes autism by pointing out the glaring errors in an attempt to convince/educate.

>>157191643
pretty much this.

>>157189848
Damn, that looks good.

>>157189848
the spellbook is good but that inventory might be a tad small.

If there's giant text for those items like with the spell titles, then the inventory is fine.

Good gracious, gamedev was starting to look like some kinda impossible math meme where in order to make any final assets I would need to make a sketch, then a lowpoly model, then sculpt it, retopo, then bake normal maps, paint detail maps, rig, and do every animation before I could even bring it into the programming arena.

Previously, I was making the models, rigging and painting. Then exporting the .fbx and overwriting the old file every time I made a significant update which ate up lots of time replacing older assets with new ones.

But now that I know I can update the .blend files in realtime, I can start blocking out areas and then doing iterative passes making areas closer and closer to my final goal.

Wew lads, I feel like I've found a second wind!

We're all gonna make it, make game that is.

>>157191615
KEYMASTER NG STELLA HONK DACO DELKO DEELEKGOLO MUSH

>>157192095
>keymaster
Please no

>>157191814
thanks!
>>157191861
The same text is used as a tooltip so hopefully it won't be hard to tell what is which

>>157191615
>implying I can forget Stella Agreste
One doesn't simply forget naked fox girl games

any books or resources on computer graphics in general/graphics pipeline that isn't necessarily attached to a particular API (looking at you OpenGL/DirectX)

>>157192443
Real-Time Rendering 3rd Ed.

>>157192443
Mathematics for 3D game programming and computer graphics

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> finish writing game engine in C++
> I need to render sprites more painlessly
> rewrite whole thing in Lua + Love2D
> finish drawing everything
> trouble making gameplay loop because no OOP
> remake it all in C# with Unity
> finish main gameplay loop
> just want to dup and ship it
> I could make this in gamemaker
>
>
>
>
> nah

see you in halloweenjam

>>157193015
>more painlessly
>not less painfully
ree

>>157193164
No I meant that. I'm just lazy.

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minor progress

last effort before bringing character models in as 3D an using fancy shaders

lighting sprites with baked normals, still strange but looks less washed out, might mess around with this

>>157193318
that's okay teach me C++ and I'll forgive you

I mean not the really basic stuff but the enginedev part thx bb

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other minor progress explosion sprites from a freelance guy

How long does it take to git gud at making games?

>>157193413
Chocolate elf best elf.

>>157194520
7 years * sqrt(your age) + (years prior to the year 2000 you were born)^2

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What's the secret to nailing space scale? This is just a ridiculously huge sphere, like 5000 units, versus a 1-3 unit set of ships. Should I try some multi-camera trickery or is this good enough?

HaxeFixel or Game Maker for a simple rpg?

>>157194951
IVAN, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE GAME OR ENGINE DEV?
IF GAME USE ENGINE
IF NOT GIVE UP

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>>157193015
>trouble making gameplay loop because no OOP

>>157194520
After you make make (see finish) a handful of shit ones you are halfway there.

>>157195049
class MainLoop {
...

>>157193413
>>157193712
Just go fucking full 3d already. Billboard sprite characters in 3d don't really work unless it's something like paper mario. The closer you get to them and the more control you have over the camera the shittier they look.

>>157195024
that din't answered anything.
both are engines.

>>157195124
the main loop is a fucking loop

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i want to take my gbjam game and make a new game to improve on it with a more genesis theme (same anon who was asking about the md/genesis sprites).

i am having a vary difficult time getting this art style down though. im not a very good artist, but i can usually fudge my way through it.

is it the dithering? the palette? i tried to tone down the shading a bit but it didn't help in the second image. what am i doing wrong that's making this sprite look like complete and utter dogshit?

please be somewhat gentle. im a musician, not an artist ;-; here's a song i redid in genesis style. music is much more easy than that art shit http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hYioKVkAIn

>>157194769
scale looks good bud

I'm really interested in your game anon, what are you using?

I'm a sucker for space stuff

>>157195256
they looks like lego.
you overused dithering.

>>157195196
haxeflixel is a framework, not an engine you dumdum

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>>157195339
alright. i ditched the dithering, but now it just looks flat rather than lego

>>157195690
use a little dithering,
not overused like >>157195256
try only dithering a little on lower part of clothes & shirt.

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>almost 11pm
>realized I was only shitposting all day
>didn't work on my game at all

fuck

Which one of these is most interesting for an RPG?
>Hex or tile based, turn based CRPG
>Semi-Turn based RPG featuring free movement
>First person/third person with totally real time combat

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Is it too early to start working on a Winter Jam game?

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>>157195870
how about this? sorry about the skateboard outline. not really a darker gray that isnt black in the palette.

>>157195979
Same

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Hello there,

for about a year now our development team "Mobius_Trip"
has been working on a 3D platfromer in the veign of Banjo-Kazooie and Super Mario 64
named "Anton & Coolpecker".

A&CP is supposed to be a non-budget/non-profit labor of love project to celebrate
a genre that has only recently been revived by projects like Yooka-Laylee and A Hat In Time.
We aren't trying to compete with any other project but rather add something to the pile
and contribute our support for a community that has been forgotten by the games industry.

We are a very small team consistent of very talented people
who have contribute a lot of art, music and even code assets
and you can play the current early alpha build here: https://anton.anticruft.com
(the second to last build like master.454 will always be the newes one

We're currently in the middle of fine tuning the controls and building the tutorial level
but unfortunately we still lack programmers and concept artists which slows down development progress quite a bit.

If you got some time and motivation on your hands please consider contacting us
by sending an email to [email protected]

is there any point in adding optional donations/pay what you want on itch? has anyone here ever gotten any money from that at all?

>>157195979
>stuck on a problem for fucking days
>procrastinating with smite
wew gamedev

>>157196302
though it's not really good looking due to your drawing skills.

But don't you think it's better looking than flat frank here>>157195690 and Lego Larry here >>157195256 ??

I would say this is good enough for you.

>>157196408
you're gonna get a lot of dick jokes, consider changing the name.

>>157196581
>though it's not really good looking due to your drawing skills.
i 100% agree. i hope to improve there some day.
yeah, it's looking a bit better.

thank you for your help and advice anon. i appreciate it

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>>157196598
We're already ahead of you with the dick jokes.
Honestly though the idea behind the game was created in a random thread on /v/
about a year ago and we've formed our own development team on slack from that
as time moved on.

It's supposed to be tongue and cheek to begin with
and we're not trying to sell anything in the first place

We just want to make a 3D platformer.

>>157196229
you can work on a winter game whenever you want
You can't submit it in good spirit to a jam if you do start it before the jam begins

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>>157196408

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How the hex does a hexagonal grid work?

>>157197661
math

while(true)
{
// All game code.
}

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>>157196408
More information about the game here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IpxfRFI-V29xxWRhlK0t03qB4FiiO6FA5JwJZB-E9E0

You can listen to the OST here:
https://soundcloud.com/applethegreen/sets/anton-coolpecker-ost

>>157197774
Is it easy math or hard math? None of the links on google are working for some reason

>>157188604
Kill urself fake boku

>>157197909
>an unecessary level of indentation
GAME:
// game code
goto GAME;

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>>157197909
I wish I knew how to actually write AI because the most advance thing I've ever written was basically an if statement that moved a box to the a player's position.

>>157194769
this looks believable, I was going to ask if that planet was to scale

>>157194613
indeed
>>157195135
yeah will probably have to bring the models in

>>157198525
neat, but where is your ゲーム

>>157195285
I'm using Unity. It's a 4X / RTS style game. I've been posting the Sins style system generation the last week or so.

>>157198440
It definitely is not, just plucked numbers out of the air.

Thanks anon.

>>157196447

No, noone is donating money. If you really want any money you have to set a fixed price.

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>http://www.strawpoll.me/11412834
Which character style should I go with?

The gameplay involves grappling objects and throwing them for various purposes, with the occasional melee attack.

>>157198369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xWg54mdQos&feature=youtu.be
keep it simple. less is more.

>>157196447
There is literally no downside. Maybe you'll get lucky and get a couple dollars. But if you want actual sales you need to sell a game.

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>>157186701
Make text based games. Dwarf fortress is a fucking masterpiece and didn't require any art.

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Hey guys, I don't want to be a "Debbie Downer", but check out this vid and really take a look at your drive and the time investment that this hobby is. I know a lot of you work really hard, but there are some Anons out there (I was one of them!) that nodevs for days at a time saying, "I'm not working very fast, but I'm making some progress."

https://youtu.be/u_gKuCWi2QE
https://youtu.be/u_gKuCWi2QE

Welp it's been fun AGDG, but I got 3 days in a work before I can come back and focus on Dev. I'll miss you.

>>157199751

;_;7

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>>157180191
>not posting best logo

>>157189848
Based as fuck, and nice twist on the Harvest Moon formula. Godspeed, anon

Wow you're slow as fuck nowadays agdg eh? RIP

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>>157199920
>not posting the updated version

>>157199170
the bottom one is more interesting I think

>>157200169
All the nodevs left so we're just a bunch of yesdevs working on games and posting slow.

where would i find a female voice actor for my game?

>>157201263
this.
fuck those nodevs and shitposters.
Lewd Jam was a mistake.

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>>157200720
>>157199920
>Nodevs from /pol/ invading our place

>>157201382
>source.jpeg

>>157201429
>nodevs from CTR invading our place

Speaking of gogem he said he was going to do a game for lewdjam, did he?

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More background assets

The curtains need to be tapered off nicely near the bottom, but I'll save that for another day.

>>157202221
nice, diggin the look

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>>157202297
Thanks!

Didn't get a single (you) for my work yesterday, so I was starting to fear that I had gotten a lot worse after my long break from pixels.

>>157201839
Gogum has been mentally unstable since his RPS game failed dude.

>>157202221
wow looks nice, kind of blurry not sure if it is intentional

>>157202221
>>157202420

Looks really blurry compared to the sprites but the designs are nice

>>157202420
nah it looks good I think people get use to seeing the same project

Alright where/how do I start learning music creation for free. I would like to bite the bullet please.

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>>157202453
>>157202493
>Looks really blurry
>kind of blurry
Every time.
I'm sorry, Anon-tachi - I seem to get that complaint a lot, but that's just sort of how my stuff looks, I suppose.

How did "Five nights at Freddy" get so big? They are all just plain bad games. For some reason they remind me of those horrible Phillips CD-i games.

The only explanation I see is the characters and "lore" somehow trigger the obsession many people on the autistic spectrum seem to have. I'll have to examine and analyse what exactly triggers the autism to rake in autism bux.

>>157202221
I adore the character on the right.

>>157202579
Same reasons why sheep simulator get so big.

It's all about the memes, jack.

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>>157202553
That's good to hear!
Will keep pushing on

>>157202631
*implodes*

>>157201839
googum is a Bernout, he's not a Trump supporter. But anybody with any sort of intuition at all can see that Hillary is a corrupt sociopath, regardless of how they feel about Trump or anybody else.

>>157202579
It was a new (or rarely used, don't know) take on the horror genre, instead of being a lost fuccboi running away from a scrawny looking silhouette, you sit in place and have to stop the thing(s) from getting you.

the idea is really good.

and probably because anything that can make youtubers scream while not being a bad game would get a huge fanbase.

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Been a while since I have posted here but here is some animation progress

>>157202221
>>157202420
It's you again!

>>157202579
This:
>>157202817

If you want to make a meme game, don't base it around a meme that would make it on 4chan. You have to use reddit-style memes if you want money.

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>>157202573

If you would use more darker darks and more brighter highlights I think it would look more "sharper" if that is what you want.

pic related, I just applied an unsharpening mask filter.

>>157202579
Just because you believe they're bad doesn't mean that they're objectively bad, but they got popular because e-celebs made them popular.

Scott was doing what he normally does his games were about as popular as some random whodev on AGDG before FNAF, but this time it got really bopular.

>>157202817
>>157203041

It's not just stupid memes and irony, most people who play and are fans of fnaf seem to take it quite serious and really care about the lore.

>>157203003
looks good do you have a webpage

>>157202817
>>157203041
>>157202579
imo fnaf isn't really about the meme, like yeah it was kind of a meme concept in the first one (but it still had a pretty original idea in its own right, the idea just happened to become big memey later) but then it just started a feedback loop with its ravenous fandom. THAT'S how you churn out games, you need to establish a 'deep' universe with 'deep lore' in the form of random cryptic shit you don't need to understand, because a good fandom can figure that out for you
end goal is being able to buy a fursuit of your game's characters at hot topic, then you've made it

>>157203035
It sure is!

Did some commission work since my programmer wasn't progressing very much, then got completely absorbed by photogrammetry for a while, and my progress just died.
But now I'm back on track!

>>157203064
I don't think that looks very good, but I guess I sort of get what you mean(?)

>>157196408
Basically fuck off lol

>>157196408
True story, I drew the first piece of shitty ms paint concept art for this game.

Now go back to 8/v/

>>157185883
so you are a pedophile?

>>157202025
He did, he published it too

It's just horribly rough and incomplete

>>157203073

>Scott

When people and your game's fandom refer to you with your first name you know there is something wrong with your fandom.

Points for and against kickstarter? I've been avidly against it for years but I've been toying with the idea of using it to fill some budget gaps.

>>157202025
Maifu or something like that

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>>157203645

What the fuck do you think?

>>157203695
pros:
You can get enough money to fund your game.

cons:
You have to already have 80% of your game and art done so that you convince people to buy it. You also have to be very good at marketing your game, so you can get enough people to see it and potentially back it.

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>>157202949
this

my write-in. i dont think it will be counted by Texas rules but when does my presidential vote ever count anyways. i also drew bernie on the ballot with hillary and trump behind him showering money, that's ballot envelope opener exclusive content.

>>157203824
I just wanted direct confirmation because I give people the benefit of the doubt too much.

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>>157202949
hey man watch your fucking mouth
john oliver clearly showed us that hilary is the superior FEMALE candidate

so shut your fucking mouth

>>157202949
>corrupt sociopath
that's a long way to say "politician"
it still makes me smile to think that Trump admitted he's been a politician BTW, railing against politicians and then oop, I guess I'm one too
that's not to excuse either of them, just, what do you expect?

>>157204193
>hilary is the superior FEMALE candidate
>campaign had to make up shit about ~doctor~ Jill Stein being anti-vax to suppress her

>>157204037
>being a socialist

>>157203682
His site is scottgames.com

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>>157203064
>>157202573
>>157202420
>>157202221

Okay, I took some bits from the sharp-filtered stuff and refined some details in the background.

Is this any better?

I usually try to keep the backgrounds somewhat dark and diffuse, so that the objects and character sprites may "pop" better.

>>157204323
Trump actually did really well in the second debate, dont let the media consensus fool you.
he delivered what he's been delivering to his supporters at rallies and oti, on a national stage, projecting all the strength and hatred he's known for in front of his actual opponent. he was an asshole and charismatic in all the authentic to trump ways.
you need your supporters enthusiastic on voting day and he's going to have that and it could make or break the election given how fucked up the electoral system is.

>>157204834
Why are you such a political whore? You're just a filthy turncoat ex-American anyway.

>>157204834
I didn't say he won or lost. I think both debates so far have been a shit-show and Hillary was set up to do better but neither won regardless. I just think it's hilarious he railed against politicians (never lobbyists, never inept government employees, rarely special interest groups, mostly just politicians) and then at the last debate he came out and said "well for the last year I guess I've been politician".

>>157205050
>ex-American
where's your early ballot, faggot?

>>157205126
You don't even pay taxes.

How can I visually represent the concepts of warm, cold, wet, and dry?
stipulations:
I can't use water for "wet" because it's already used for actual water.
I can't use fire for "warm" for the same reason.
I don't want to use sand for "dry" because it could be confused with something else and it would just be too hard to see for what it is.

I'm thinking a snowflake for cold, maybe red lines for warm? Otherwise I'm totally drawing a blank.

dota 2 custom games till i build up the courage to work on my game

>>157201429
>le pol boogeyman

>>157205235
i pay more than trump

>>157205098
>how to subtext
that was a solid moment in his favor. he was conceding to being a politician by the raw definition of "politician" and in doing so saying how he isnt a "normal politician" which has been the overarching theme of his campaign since day 1, basically...
>career politicians = fucking you
>im not a career politician
>my opponents are career politicians

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how could I go about making an endless room in game maker?

my thinking would be to have background chunks and have the dimensions of the room a little bit larger than a 3x3 grid of said chunks.
when the view gets close to the edge it loads the next one, and once the view position is a multiple of the previous chunk, its moves all chunks so that the new chunk the player moves into is at the origin, and the player and view to their relative positions so it looks seamless

the only problem is that gets increasingly complicated as more objects are procedurally loaded on top of the chunks
this was the advantage unity had for me over GM, but everything else about unity's 2d features are a total nightmare

>>157196453
Work on another, small well defined part and come back to problem when finished.

Woops, you just made a whole game.

>>157205485
>i pay more than trump
Even if Trump had never paid taxes his entire life that wouldn't be true. You're a bum.

>>157205635
I wish it was that easy anon.
It's a problem with me thinking there's a viable substitute to C++ without doing literally everything myself from scratch.

>>157205485
>i pay more than trump
so why would you support an elitist asshole who is taking advantage of the system? if you pay taxes you payed for his bailouts and tax breaks. how satisfied does that make you?

>>157205706
Just stop using the language features you are having difficulty with.

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>>157205781
>support

>>157205781
>payed
Paid.
>if you pay taxes
Gogem is 30+ years old and has never had a job.

>>157205781

The government is just going to spend your tax dollars on stupid shit anyway, like completely useless social programs, bribing dictators, or throwing more money at the F-35. Who cares? Everybody tries to pay as little as possible, just not everybody can afford a good (((accountant))).

>>157205931
>Gogem is 30+ years old and has never supported himself independently.

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>>157202221
>>157204819

Fixed colours

Going the fuck to bed now,
Good night, fellow aggies

>>157188604
Name one game like that

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>>157205982
>mfw building yet another fighter jet that will never get used costs more money than i will ever make in my entire life

>>157206181
do you have tumblr or something where I can follow you?

>>157188604
mixups, its allows for more variations in challenges that can be posed to the player
>>157206212
kirby and the crystal shards. oddworld abes exodus (kindof)

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kids dont even understand how political debates work
there's no losers on the debate stage, being there means you've already won... unlike Bernie Sanders, Gary Johnson and Jill Stein dont even get mentioned in these debates
and the winner will be decided on election day so shut up about who won, it's about hearing the arguments and theres only ever 2 arguments, the logical argument and the emotional argument. the 2 candidates have picked their modes of attack so now you have to just wait and see which one works.

>>157206298
Sure thing!

http://theonian.tumblr.com/

There's a bunch of recent photography/photogrammetry posts, but behind that row you'll find the game progress posts. Sorry.

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All you plebs using Unreal/GM will never ever have a cool community like us Unity users, pic is me and friends on the last Unite event.

>>157206240
but jets are cool unlike your life

>>157206426
Where is your game?

why is there no game with cute devs doing cute games

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>>157206508
>tfw using Unity and still no friends

>>157206820
>I don't go to the public events I just stay inside my room

I wonder why anon.

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halp

I can never settle on anything to move forward

I know I need to do environment and engine, but I just keep redesigning the PC

I just want to make Fez 2

>>157206372
Kirby is a game this board constantly faps to and it is exactly

this >>157188604

finally worked out how the game renders meshes

Here is my code for stripping data from .fbx files

Took me forever to work out how to do it

http://pastebin.com/zxrpVHwv

Going to use this for generating collision meshes programmatically when I combine it with some linear algebra I already wrote out

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>>157206532

>have a scruffly as fuck beard
>it'll probably take an hour to shave
>get bright idea
>add mirror modifier and shave
>shave in half the time

>>157207053
i 100%'d fez it was alright so good luck

>>157207053

I think the last one on the right is the best. The first one looks too human.

>>157206573
you replied to it

>>157207282
Thats pretty dorky anon
How many people in the world would get that joke? 0.01%?

>>157207282
top kek, wish it worked that way.

>>157199170
the roboto

>>157205834
>Programmer
>&Scripter
Thank goodness. Anime has finally confirmed that anyone using an engine isn't a really a programmer.

Now all those Game Maker, Unity and UE4 users will realize how much better I am than them for spending the last 436 days getting this red square to move around on screen in a very optimized way.

>>157207416
Oh god I didn't see the name, kill yourself Gogum, you ate liberal dick and then decided to now suck the rights cock.

>>157208220
nice job dude. your code has helped the engine devs implement an easy to use function that allows users to easily create movement just as optimized and fluid within minutes

>>157207053
the most right one

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>>157208326

i just came back to rewriting the oldest GML code in my game (started several years ago). i turned 32 lines into 2.

>>157208861
kys you worthless nodev

>>157209108
It feels so fucking good when that kind of shit happens.

>>157206508
You make jokes, but I bet you look worse than any of these motherfuckers.

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question guys

Am i wasting time on a learning game or would someone find this remotely fun. I have been going through the book "the elements of computing systems" where you build a computer from the ground up and have been making a game as i go along.My idea is along the lines of the tis-100 game except you are making the computer.

you start out with the logic gate nand, you make the other logic gates used in a computer with combinations of these logic gates. you connect all these gates with wires that show the flow of data like a pipe and create other gates.

after you make all the gates (logic gates(and,or,not,mux,demuti..etc) ->

alu(cpu) made from the logic gates, using the gates you made drag them all out and connect them with wires, player will be guided and told what gates to use, up to the player to figure out the order / connections

after that you make your own ram from binary variables in whatever size you feel is necessary from 8 registers(variables) to 64000 from simple binary variables

after that you link the memory you made to your cpu and can start inputting data in binary and saving it, the cpu then executes what you saved. Jump statements can be created and you have your first cpu core like the tis-100 that can be programmed in binary

after that you define a symbol table( '>' = 0101 || 'a" = 11010011 ), or you can use the default.

assembly can now be used and defined by the player translated by the program of course.

after this you start programming things like the tis-100 on your own computer that you built. I want to go beyond this(past assembly) but what i just described above will probably take me a but load of hours.

each step would be guided with missions much like tis-100, except what you make in each mission is now a part for later missions.

pic related is all the chips i have built so far, i handle most of the backbone for the players so it sounds a lot more complicated then it is.

>>157209476
Just
Like
Make
Game

Do it

>>157209476
shenzhen i/o literally just came out
you've been supremely beaten to the punch

>>157209476
Ever see nand2tetris? Teaches the user to create tetris within their own OS built from logic gates. If it could be gamified better, that might increase it's appeal.

>>157209370
>Jokes

You are the joke, where is your game?

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Almost done with the transitions and persistent areas.
Done a little fade when changing floors/areas, I think this looks alright enough.

>>157210560
>globals

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>>157205507
I wonder if I could make an origin object larger than the view, and so that way when the player hits one side of the origin object, everything gets translated relative to that.
I could have a larger border object that deletes everything outside of it by a margin of chunk size, and using that also know when to translate back if the player decides to turn around and go back where they came from. this could work nicely actually
i could just would have every procedural object inherent a check within the step even to check for the transitional state

maybe this is super trivial, idk.
viable?

>>157205507
ask dungeon break dev

anyoe got any tutorials for walk cycles for top down type ahit? preferably in juicy gif format.

>>157210537
Don't get salty with, beardy.

where is the halloween progress you lazy shits? i need some ideas to steal

>>157210938
The only difficult part of endlessness is if you want to remember the content you've moved past.

Loading in chunks is fine. But if you want to remember content then you've gotta export it to text files or something.

>>157211150
dungeon break separates the content into individual screens which makes it even easier than what he's asking for, I think.

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>>157211229
How about you steal ideas from yourself famalam

>>157209837
the book i'am using was made by the same guy. If i get this beginning part done i want the later missions to be revolved around making games, applications etc using the comp you build.
i was also thinking that building the chip could be a optional part and you could jump in on the later funner projects using a badly optimized default computer much like the tis-100/shenzhen(slow and one memory register). but without building the comp yourself its more or less a clone game of tis/shen

>>157209736
i know its bloody close to a clone . My only thought is that this is on a deeper level since the chips you use in shenzhen/tis-100 are what you would be building here . The logic, clock cycles, everything from scratch from base binary and logic chips that the player made, then you could program your computer that you made from 1/0's in assembly.... Ill give this more thought though shenzhen confused/hurt my feelings on this project

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>>157211229

>>157210938
I think game maker rooms are already endless, you can play outside the room boundaries can't you? (which means that you don't have to move objects back to the center of the room when loading in new chunks)

>>157191101
So... You need to have a talent of teaching yourself?

>>157211586
views auto clip at the edge, but you could make an endless room because shitty 2D games can run on your moms phone

>>157211656
>views auto clip at the edge
They don't if you're using GML to control the camera which you should be.

I think room sizes might actually be completely pointless. you could set your game at the coordinates -3256476 -65790 and it wouldn't make a difference

>>157211561
Such a waste of verts.
Disgusting.
The chest should be a simple transparent cube with a texture of a ribcage on it

>>157211862
this is what i've been saying
i'll give it a shot with a different view code cause that would make life a whole lot easier
>>157211273
das the plan
i have a really neat idea with that though that is going to trump the complexity of this. if i can't solve this problem i'm not gonna get anywhere close to what i want to do later in the game

>>157212003
maybe in 2003

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High Res Version
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>>157212101
Do you have plot for your game? If not, just copy Area 88. It would make good setting

>>157211586
yeah but the view doesn't

>>157212238
Untrue, in my roguelite I set my view in GML to focus on my player object and if I noclip through the walls I can go off the room and the view follows the character because it has no reason not to.

I don't know why you thought GM has weird restrictions like that.

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Has anyone saved or know the contacts of the dude that does M&M clone?

>>157212238
Yes it fucking does. You can do that with GML. Stop being retarded D&D kid.

>>157212318
>>157212375
radical, i'm gonna give this a shot, i was just using the room view up until now

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>>157212336
what's up

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>>157212101
your game looks so good it's making me salty somehow

jet game is one of the ideas in my ideas.txt

I wanted to make a game like slender for the jam but those games are done to death fug

I nodevved another week. Fuck. I hate myself. I wish there were discipline pills or something.

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Finally something to show.

Still not much at all, though.

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>>157212761

>>157212649
NEVER use built-in backgrounds, room views, "solid" or many other things. They are fucking terrible and will cause issues on longer run.

>>157210560
Looks kinda weird going upwards into a door at the end then coming out the other way.

>>157212810
For some reason I doubt they'd do anything for me. They're not accessible to me, anyway. I need to learn discipline on my own I think.

>>157212827
I've been using gamemaker for ages and have been fine using views & backgrounds (haven't used backgrounds that much though).
What are the issues with those two?

>>157212778
looks like shit
are you one of those engine dev faggots? stop wasting your life

>>157212753
are they? I can't think of any straight clones that made it past greenlight

>>157212827
what's your beef with backgrounds? you can use them to optimize the shit out of your game.

>>157212932
game like that can only be made once because nobody wants to play thta mechanic multiple times coz it gets boring fast

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>>157212662

You accepting free casual help? I'm really digging games like M&M, but dont have full-time availability. I can do 3d/2d/music/voice overs props for you to help the project start up a bit, gain face, so you could find more people.

>>157212778
Cool what is this? Are you the big square?

>>157212893
If you use the room editor's view settings as camera, you cant have complete control over how camera works. This way you cant have the camera go outside of room, have smooth camera movement, limit areas where camera can go or any of the more advanced than complete beginner tier shit.

For backgrounds, if you use the built-in shit, you will get problems with parallax scrolling. Combined with room editor's "camera", this will result in stutter, parallax effect not being looped correctly, those white vertical lines and all kinds of other awful things.

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Fan art/misc/helful/fun folder update, we are having fun edition.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6j4pcv3V-vfb3hKSlhRRzlLbFE

I would especially like to thank the artist for including filthy engine devs in this nice comic.

>>157206508
Man, this picture is genuinely depressing to look at.

What is the best size for a regular human sprite in a topdown RPG?

>>157213083
sure, shoot me an email [email protected]

I still need some music, a lot of sound effects (all enemy sounds, spell sounds, etc), maaayybbee voices for players (haven't decided yet if it will make it in the prototype), a few models, some icons, etc. Any help I get would be nice because otherwise I will be spending hours searching for stuff online

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Someone made this for me a few threads ago and said they had code to go with it.

>>157213189
the best size is the resolution you're willing to draw at. draw some art you're proud of and that is the best size.

"size" on the screen is relative to the view. (i guess we're still talking about views)

>>157213142
this comic is sexist.

>>157213189
how much detail you want in?

>>157213085
yeah, it's a sort of schmup / shooter.

You're the larger square, and you can only shoot through the proxies that hover around you. The plan is to have a manual and an automatic mode, though only the first one works, for now. The smaller square is the first enemy type. Super simple. I have like 6 or 7 of them in store.

>>157213189
90 metres

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>>157213252

I'll mail you once I get home

>>157213318
I want the character to be able to change armor and for differences and designs to be visible.

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> kearneyposters

>>157213173
why?

>>157213384
8x8

>>157213384
By topdown, do you mean like in zelda or like in hotline miami?

If zelda, go with 16x16, 16x24, 32x32 or something and for hotline miami, 32x32 or 64x64 depending on your art skills.