/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

Isabeau a cute monkey

Fuck mainline

Persona 4 was a mistake and Strange Journey was the last good SMT

Can't believe the Strange Journey protagonist is the best of all time

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>>157127876

>>157127434

Daily reminder Toki is worst girl

>>157127876
I think you mean Nanashi

>>157128113
kek
0/10

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>"This epic is NOT sweet"

Who /stillmad/ here?

>>157128167
h*ck off

What's up with soul hackers? I want to like it but it's just strange after playing the mainline games

Whites were right.

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DOG

>>157128671
Monkey > dog

>>157128618

Dagda's plan is a fleshed out version of theirs. They're irrelevant now.

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>tfw SMT IV trailer

>>157129212
They were actually less edgy than him though. He really is the bottom of the barrel.

I don't get satan's actual character in IVA. What is his ideology? Does he even have one? He acts above it all, but he clearly uses some kind of standard to decide you are better than yhvh. Is it meant to be ambiguous?

>>157128618
In the grand scheme you only unfuck one universe rather than the entire Amala Network

>>157129802
Also, why is he the only angel who "is part of" yhvh. Even the old games did this. Just because he represents his judgement? That's still a little bizarre. And not reallt any different than any other angel.

Woah, Kaneko Works Vol. 4 is going to be released in November, how did I not know about this? We'll finally get high quality Devil Summoner Art.

Where the heck is the black card armor shop in Ginza in Apocalypse

>>157131891
The same location as IV, duh

>>157131935
I-it's been a while

I haven't gotten to really get a good look at persona 5, why are they fighting SMT demons and not shadows

>>157132017
Northwestern most building in the black market area to the north.

>>157132347
they are making HD assets for the next SMT ;)

>>157132370
More like it lets them use the same models for Personas and enemies.

>>157132347
Because the first two games. Also I believe they're still referred to as shadows, so they're kind of like Personas, shadows that have taken on the identity of demons.

>>157130354
Holy shit really?

>>157132649
that reason sound bullshit so >>157132370
is probably the true reason

so /smtg/ what do you want next from atlus?

new game or a new smt spinoff

personally I want a new SMT spinoff on console. that last one was desu? which was a long time ago

>>157132810
http://personacentral.com/kazuma-kaneko-art-book-works-vol-4-announced-november-2016/

>>157132347
Play Persona 1 and 2 and find out.
Extra points if you play Tatsuya Scenario in P2 EPP that explains why demons regressed into shadows.

>>157132878
Yeah I just googled. I'm stoked.
I hope it means both Devil Summoner and Soul Hackers and not just Devil Summoner.

>>157132817
>so /smtg/ what do you want next from atlus?
SMTV on PS4 in souped-up P5 engine.

help

how do I apply the map hack to smt1?

>>157133074
You kill yourself faggot that can't even read a fucking readme

>>157133074
what does the map hack do?

>>157132915
>demons regressed into shadows
Demons are archetypes and shadows are shadows.

>>157132817
>Persona 1 and 2 use "demon shadows"
>why does Persona 5 use demunz?

>>157133175
To be able to access to the automap with L/R buttons. I tried but the game crashes.

>>157133121
Rude

>>157132817
>so /smtg/ what do you want next from atlus?

A-Team (Nocturne, DDS, Persona 3-5) - Another Golden Playhouse Puzzley game (or Persona 6)

B-Team (RH, SJ, TMS) - SMTV

C-Team (Raidou Kuzunoha, SMTIV, Apocalypse) - A Devil Summoner/Soul Hackers/Strange Journey-esque main series spinoff

DeSu Team (Langrisser Series, DeSu1 & 2) - Etrian Tactics

Etrian Odyssey 2nd Team (EO2, 3, U, U2, EO5) - Untold 3 (or EO6)

Trauma Team (Second Opinion, New Blood, Trauma Team, EO4, Persona Q) - A New Trauma game (Or Persona Q2, or SMTQ?)

>>157133680
>B-Team (RH, SJ, TMS) - SMTV
What's RH?

>>157133792
Radiant Historia

>>157133819
Oooh. Well shit that one was much better than either SJ or TMS. Why was TMS such shit?

>>157132817
SMT 5 on console

All I want is another SMT on home console with the budget and scope of Nocturne/DDS.
P5 is a good start, especially since we have demons and hand crafted dungeons again.

>>157133946
>Why was TMS such shit

I thought it was decent.

>>157130009

I think it's just because in SMTII, you faced him after YHVH's avatars, so he was a "Godly" enemy too like them, since making him an Herald would seem like a downgrade.

In SMTI, it was also said that Lucifer himself was part of YHVH in the Chaos ending, although they obviously dropped that from future games.

>>157134092
I played it with the uncensored reincarnation patch and the plot was still awful, it was full of moe idolshit, the art style was style over substance vomit inducing and the Fire Emblem characters didn't even look like they did in their own fucking games.

Don't even get me started on the false advertising they pulled with this game, what with first trailer blatantly showing Hero, Aleph, Demifiend and Flynn as well as FE characters from games other than Waifushit Awakening and yet none of them are in the fucking game.
It's all just OC donut steel idolshit with not a single Megaten character and the FE characters are all from Waifushit Awakening and don't even look the part.

>>157134192
Well yeah, the story wasn't good, but the game itself was fun.

>>157134173
In SMT2 Lucifer still refers to himself as being part of YHVH and even taking orders from him, it's just that he developed his own sense of justice and decided to reject YHVH's rule.

>>157134192
They're also from Shadow Dragon too.

>>157134237
Gameplay was literally just SJ and SJ gameplay was a massive downgrade over SMT3 and DDS.

>>157134252
He does? I don't remember it. I remember that he was supposed to obey YHVH, but nothing about him being part of YHVH. Shouldn't he also disappear in the ending if they kept that?

>>157134318
All of those FE11 chars were also DLC for Awakening so I didn't really make that distinction, but technically you've got a point.

>>157134378
I forgot about all those Spotpass characters.

>>157134325
I wouldn't call SJ a "massive" downgrade, and while it's different and not necessarily as good, TMS is still enjoyable.

>>157134378
If you count that then any selection of FE characters would likely be "Awakening characters" since that had more than 10 characters from each game.

Either way, due to them deciding that each character would have only one mirage and you'd just actually collect and fuse weapons it was never going to have a good character line up.

>>157134325
>Gameplay was literally just SJ
The sessions are more like a variation of press turn.

>>157134646
I may have exaggerated but SJ is, first person camera aisde since I'd say that is preference thing, had downgraded gameplay.
Press turns got removed, alignment locked demons for no reason, inheritance and such completely fucked.
A lot of shitty under the hood changes.

>>157134647
>Either way, due to them deciding that each character would have only one mirage and you'd just actually collect and fuse weapons it was never going to have a good character line up.
It's still false advertising. Instead of doing what they did, they should've sticked to the characters they already announced and expanded from there. And like I said the FE characters still look nothing like in their original games. Even the biggest waifushitbait Tharja had their designed raped so hard that waifufags were triggered.
And let's not forget that they never EVER take off their mask helmets.

i just killed metatron in smt4a but i still can't fuse him. when i will be able to?

>>157135008
He's NG+ only unfortunately. Same as Merkabah, Lucifer and Satan.

>>157135008
Ng+ only

>>157135048
>>157135052
this sucks...

could someone post map of the yhvh dungeon?
i know i has been posted countless times but i lost it.

>>157133474
what the fuck is demon shows?? p1 and 2 used demons

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>>157135471

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>>157134173
>an Herald

>>157135767
>He was such an herald, to take it all away. We miss him so, That you should know, And we honor him this day. He was an herald, to take that shot, to leave us all behind. God do we wish we could take it back, And now he’s on our minds. Satan was an herald, to leave us feeling like this, Our minds are rubber, our joints don’t work, Our tears fall into abyss. He was an herald, to take that shot, In life it wasn’t his task, He shouldn’t have had to go that way, before an decade’d past. Now he sits there in my heart, this herald of mine, Always there to make me smile, Make me feel just fine. He had courage,that boy did, courage in his heart. To take that shot, To end his pain, To tear us all apart. But in the end, he died in courage. Lacking, nevermore, He died a herald, Satan did, And we’ll love him forevermore. We love you like an brother. We miss you so much. We will always love you, kid. Rest In Peace Satan. ~Aleph

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/smtg/ I need help, I just got to Shinjuku in SMTI but I accidentally neglected DeSu all day yesterday. Convince me to finish DeSu before moving on with SMTI.

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>last batch of DLC still listed as Expired

>>157137491
>157137491
You don't want to miss the super secret uncensored Yuzu cg

I'm trying to get Die For Me! passed on from Alice through Fusion Lite, but nothing is sticking on any of the demons. What am I doing wrong?

>>157137843
>What am I doing wrong?

Trying to pass on Die For Me. A handful of skills can't be passed on.

>>157137591
>Yuzu
That's not convincing at all anon!

>>157134858
>press turns removed
This is good, can we stop pretending press turns are an absolute good thing? They're a different style of gameplay.
I personally prefer turn based systems since it makes the speed relevant of demons since you actually aren't insured to go first and thus high speed demons are important for timely skills.
It also prevents the lmao you missed now you lose all your press turns.
Or the alternate with crits from bosses.

>alignment locked demons
Alignment system demons make sense and honestly make it so you are forced to use different type of demons based on your alignment. It varies gameplay which is nice.

I think you mean the fusion system in general, not the inheritance. I'll give you that, the fusion system is just an experience in pressing B+A until you get what you want on a demon.

SJ has issues, but these aren't it.
Also TMS even if you hate the story content is legitimately a GOOD game, it's a ton of fun. I'd love to see a spiritual successor of the game.

>>157137843
If you're playing SMT Apoc then that glitch is fixed.

You can only pass unique skills with recommended fusions in SMT Apoc. And that was a glitch too that I believe might or might not have been patched out.

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>>157137491
Been fusing shit, maybe I'll manage this time around.

>>157138372
What are you stuck on in DeSu?
The remake isn't nearly as ballbusting as the original anon.

Though I think there are a few hiccup bosses such as Belial that might be tough depending on how prepared you are.

>tfw you went phys MC in DeSu1 original
>you had to compete for skills with your bro
>your stats were very similar because agi/str skills were not invented yet

Suffering.

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>>157138630
So I've heard anon but as I mentioned a myriad of times before in this general, I SUCK at SRPG's. Everything went smooth sailingish with a few retries here and there up until the 6th day. I fucking want that Null Phys, Ziodyne and Dual Shadow but the fucking berserkers on the SDF teams on 6th day Contamination Area are fucking my shit up with multi hits. I just instinctively reset my game if any character dies too so maybe that's why I'm still stuck.

>>157138248
>patched out
>Atlus can patch out a fun glitch but not Japanese text

>>157138248
lol, well that's 30 AP down the drain. Oh well.

>>157128210
Me.

>>157138164
I thought the boss design in TMS was some of the best Fatlus has done outside of EO and the whole package was better than SMT4.

The plot is certainly less annoying than both 4 and 4A for all you wanna bitch about waifus.

>>157127814
P4 is good though and so was Apocalypse.

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>>157138847
You still need it to use some demons as fusion fodder, so it's not all bad

Would you a Strange Journey remake?

>>157138782
I'm just saying might because I have never seen a unique skill recommended in SMT4 Apoc but I kept hearing people playing the Jap version saying it worked.

To be fair, Atlus hardly patches out ANYTHING. They didn't even patch out exploitable glitches in EOU for example, aka the exploitable make infinite items glitch that made grimoire hunting bearable in EOU.... Which they then proceeded to fix in the Europe release, sorry Europe.


>>157138847
Sorry anon, if it makes you feel better I was misinformed somewhere that Riot Gun was based on Str and not Dex so I didn't inherit it. Now I have Myriad Arrows and Heaven's Bow but I'll probably have to go back and get Riot Gun and I'm like lvl 90.

>>157139078
I think the plot is more engaging than SMT4 but less than SMT4A. The boss fights are definitely more fun than SMT4 by miles and more interesting than SMT4A.

I think if they would have made the game game but not focused on a niche market then it would have sold well based on recommendations.

>>157128247
What do you mean? It's a relic, untouched ancient game design. Level design is goofy. Balance is a lol. But it's still fun if you slog through it. It's also a window back to when Atlus could just build a setting out of entirely "rule of cool" parts. If you aren't grinning the whole time, your inner teenage boy is dead

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>>157138761
>On top of spawn points when the captain throws the DS's
>Minions still spawn NEXT to the ds
>Chaos wave bufudyne bufudyne petra eyes
>rip atsuro team

I'm ready to kill someone

>>157139375
NOW I KNOW THAT FIGHT FUCK THAT FIGHT

>>157139546


>>157139546
Which fight is it? I don't remember any obnoxious battles in DeSu1 apart from boss battles but the issue was every fight was a battle of attrition of hitting each other with like 1-2 good skills for like 200ish damage max.

DeSu2 however was FULL of obnoxious fights everywhere but was balanced by lmao rofl stomp demon access.

>>157139546
I REVIVED ATSURO AND KILLED THE FUCKING FAGGOT ONLY 1 MINION LEFT I'M GONNA DO THIS SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

>>157139662
6th day first plot battle at 11:30 where the SDF teams are killing demon tamers. You get there and they choose to escape instead of fighting you by throwing haywire ds's on the ground that summon abbadon's with null most and chaos wave

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>The instant kill activated!

>>157139230
I don't know if it's possible to make most ad libs or duo arts cool without it being idols though. Kiria hitting a clutch Labyrinth is a special sort of FUCK YEAR. The FE mechanics didn't really impact much. Most of the bosses coolest gimmicks were from whole cloth, but I think the FE stuff gave some weight to the setting.

It's a weird game.

I could probably agree with 4A. It had problems but it's not a bad yarn all things considered.

>>157138630
>tfw you went phys MC in DeSu1 original
You think thats bad, I went with a mag/phys build with ocasionally dumping a point in VIT.
My agility was just as High as it was when I was lvl 1 when I was lvl 70+
I still managed to be fine with this setup

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>Ok so now's it's 12:00 time to save Gin
>Get into battle
>Crack skills
>20 crackable skills

Fuck this game

>>157128065
FACTUAL

>>157044332 (OP)
>tfw /smtg/ sings will never be completed in your lifetime
>tfw even the kowaSHITai sings was eleven times more succesful

>>157140857
>be a CFW fag
>use cheats
>enjoy buttblasted /smtg/ asspain

Boy, now Neutral ending in original SMTIV sure got darker. Since Odin is still supposed to be around he might find some gullible idiot hunter to unseal Krishna. And Nanashi is dead.

>>157141310
Good thing modern atlus rename their cheats to DLC ;^)

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>>157141207
How did you manage to quote last thread's OP instead of this one?

>>157141310
Misquote?

DRAWFAG ANOOOOON!
WHERE AAAAARE YOUUUUUU?!

>>157133074
You download a patcher.

Lunar IPS is among the best and easiest to use.

>>157141371
>Misquote?
Why would it be a misquote?
I implied you should become a CFWfag that uses cheats and then enjoy the asspain of people here.

>>157141364
Only in SMT4 so far :^)

>>157141371
I misquoted :(

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>>157141448
Ah. Well, I am a CFW fag being an europoor and all but I don't see the appeal of cheats. It's not for me I suppose.

>>157141531
Silly anon

>>157140857
Do a free battle.

Anyone have a rip of Devil Summoner special box?

>>157139217
No need, the game is already perfect.

>>157141448
>asspain us
No?
I'd call you a casualfaggot and move on, you can use picnic and play through the whole game if you want which is about equivalent to your cheating with CFW or whatever. You're still a candyass to me, you're in the same boat as people who use the lowest difficulty.

You can play how you want, it's a single player game. You're ruining the game for yourself, not me.

tl;dr: ur a faget

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I'm home smtg, time to finish doggo

>>157141980
What if I don't care about the gameplay, but only the story, music and characters?

tl;dr u mad

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>>157141383
>>157142242
Well then.

>>157142319
>smt for stories after smt1/2
Lol.

But nah, don't care. It's a a single player game, I couldn't care less.

>>157142242
>that expression
What do you call it
>>157142319
>Story
>characters
>in SMT
I feel sorry for you

>>157139171
what do you mean?

>>157142817
>DeSu
>bad story
u wot son

>>157142817
it's gonna be the gulp alt after the cum one

>>157142242
You still taking requests or suggestions?

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>>157142975
you can suggest something for another day, but for now it'll be Pascal the dog's day

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>>157143112
Nice.

Something I'd really like to see is a Hunter or anyone really grabbing a handful of a thick slab of a buttocks Gu Huo Niao has.

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>>157143112
A couple threads ago it was theorized that Angel got the role as new Divine capstone in IVA (as Nocturne Angel) by giving YHVH the tongue-succ (for lack of other appendages on an Omniscient Floating Head).

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>>157143112
>>157143671

Something kind of like this

>>157143112
High tier Angel teaching low tier Angel all about how "law" works

>>157143671
>>157143678
what if I tell you I already planned to draw those two doing something? lel
guess we're all thinking the same stuff, maybe krishna did create his universe where we fuse together

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>>157141607
Yeah, I did 2 hard battles and cracked all I could, now I gotta up my vig a bit to be able to put Anti-Most on MC. Just spent 40 min fusing and buying demons and then making perfect team comp with elemental coverage and defense mechanisms. I'm tired.

>>157141847
You mean the one with the OST and the "live" concert?

So finally reached the final part of the cosmic egg and chose to follow Dagda's poorly explained plan like a good edgelord.

Why does everyone say that in Dagda's world humans can't depend on each other? What the fuck are they talking about?

Also kek at how quickly they choose to murder you. Not even a few seconds of them trying to convince you of siding with them. Just BUT NANASHI YOU'RE AKIRA WOW OK ASSHOLE DIE FOR NOT SIDING WITH US.

>>157143112
You know, I gotta ask

How did you learn to draw

I draw when I'm bored, but not like how you and other drawfags do it.

Why hasn't Taishang Laojun been referenced or cameo in any of the later games? he seems like a big deal in the first one.

>>157145564
>Why does everyone say that in Dagda's world humans can't depend on each other? What the fuck are they talking about?

Because they can't depend on others, literally every single one of Dagda's lines has been mocking people who depend on others. Whether it be in people or gods. His ideal world is one where humans depend on no one.

Which is ironic because the MC depends on Dagda so fucking much and he offers to revive you each time you die.

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>>157145659
practicing, every single day, whenever I had a period of art block it was because I'd slack off or play too many videogames.
It's all a matter of dedication. The more you give to drawing, you'll eventually learn more, and I've always had a certain eye from learning just from looking at drawings or people drawing, so that helped me through this year. And its important to be confident. Even if you're not good yet.
this was from 2012

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>>157145841
Considering how Dagda's goal is nonexistence, he might as well use the possibiliities he has as a being yet.
He takes a gamble on you and you're using him in equal regards, since your soul is his only option.

>>157145841

Yeah but that only applies to Nanashi because he's gonna become a God. Which is still retarded mind you, since Dagda encourages you to act like a selfish asshole much like YHVH. But still he never says humans will be alone in his new world. Danu and the rest just pulled that out of their asses

>>157145841
It kinda be justified with the fact that humans are pretty weak in could potentially become as strong if not stronger than the previous gods and demons.

>>157145564
Humans in Dagda's world would be given powers, which eliminates the need for gods and mitigate the need for humans to band together to fight a common enemy. Plus destroying the current universe and building a new one makes Nanashi no better than Krishna or YHVH in the eyes of your friends.

Plus, Danu/Nozomi can't be mommy goddess or fairy queen if the fairies are wiped out.

>>157145940
I see
What about drawing or art classes, is that required or just a helping tool

>>157146057
It's semi explained that Danu disagrees with Dagda's views because his plan would change the definition of what it means to be human. Your so called friends are also afraid to tackle the important truths.

>>157146326
I'd say a good teacher would make a LOT of difference, but I've learned alone so far, which is why I still chicken scratch. its far harder to remove these addictions after you've started. self taught has its pros and cons.

>>157146326
Different guy here, but a teacher helps speed things up. It's hard finding a good one though, I've been going to college for years and have only had one memorable teacher.
Like everyone else says, just draw every day, at least for 30 or 10 minutes if you can, and try new drawings. Personally, I try gesture drawing and time myself. It'll take a while, but you'll see improvement eventually.

In your option, which mainline game has the best

Story
Atmopsphere
Gameplay

I'll start:
SJ
Nocturne
SJ

>>157146990

II
I
Nocturne

>>157146990
II
IV
SJ

>>157146990
SJ
4/4A
Nocturne

>>157146990
II
Nocturne/SJ/IV
IV:A

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>>157146838
>>157146530
I don't think I have time for a teacher or a drawing class in my local college. But I'll do as you guys say & draw as much as possible.

Thanks anons

>>157146990
Story: SMT2
Atmosphere: SJ
Gameplay: Hmm... I like bits of a lot of different games but it might be tied between SJ and SMT4 Apoc. DeSu is SO close to being my favorite but it needs to work on balancing.

>>157146990
SMT II
SMT IV/IVF
SMT III

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>>157129716
>They were actually less edgy than him though

>>157146305
>>157146463

I mean, just because humans have powers or whatever doesn't mean society will disappear, but with this game, who knows? Still weird how it's brought out of nowhere just to make Dagda look even worse.

>>157147254
>DeSu
>mainline

>>157146990
2
1
3

>>157147413
SJ technically isn't mainline either, it's a spinoff anon.

>>157147573

It is oficially mainline. It's just not numbered.

>>157147408
Like I said, Nanashi's friends are afraid to think critically. They spend most of the game ignoring the bigger questions and would rather kill anyone who disagree with them instead of answering it. Even Chaos demons like Belial and Lucifuge are confused as to what Nanashi's doing

>>157147935
It's not numbered and thus technically it's a spinoff.

I've been an anon here since before SMT4 was released and people were basically calling SJ as SMT4, hell even I did it on occasion. The fact is even if it might be canon mainline it's still a technical spinoff like Raidou or Soul Hackers.

That being said, DeSu is probably not gonna contribute to mainline ever. The MCs in those universes are punkass bitches and their Satan suffers from brain damage.

>>157143112
Something with Sera from DDS

>>157148752
How about we make it Seraph anon? :^)

hoy

>>157148127
>their Satan suffers from brain damage.
I don't remember Satan being a character in DeSu 1 or overclocked, I don't even think you can fuse him in the original DeSu 1.

Should I get SMTIV? I have a 3DS.

>>157149887
its been dirt cheap forever why havent you

>>157150003
Because it would be my first SMT
Should I get it or get Apocalypse or look for Strange Journey on Amazon

>>157149842
You can fuse him in DeSu2 and due to OC borrowing much of the same demons from DeSu2 I bet you can fuse him there but I'm not sure about DeSu1.

Probably not because Satan himself was a superboss and the finale demon.

Anyway, he has almost the same exact if not the exact same stock phrase of Lucifer and claiming to be a dark overlord or some shit. It made no sense and still makes me buttmad.

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>>157149887
Yes, if you like SMT I don't see why not.

>>157150182

Apocalypse is the sequel to SMT4 so play through that first.

>>157150182
Oh then you should definitely get SMT IV since it is sorta a soft reboot.

>>157150221
What are some similar games so I can measure my interest? I was gonna get Persona but I don't want to shell out for a Sony console.

>>157150482
I don't really know what a good comparison would.
I guess you can compare it to dragon quest monsters.
You scout and fuse demons to fight alongside with you.

>>157150482
pokemon

>>157150482
Pokemon with edgy demons and edgy story.

If you like shit like that then you'll like SMT.
The most relevant comparison I can make to early SMT is it's a lot like Dragon Quest V.

>>157148007
Well, not only does Dagda plan to kill everyone in this universe, he wants to create a new universe where the very essence of humanity is radically and fundamentally altered.

Your team wants that no more than they want to die and be resurrected as a brainwashed puppet.

The reason they can't think critically is Atlus can't either. Atlus is raising questions they can't answer and the mainline SMT, already a dumbed down universe since SMT1, can't answer that either. Because SMT has nothing to offer about the current state of humanity. 4A is their first attempt and the best they could manage was Toki.

Mankind as tinpot gods would be a wonderous and terrible change in humanity, as would functional immortality and whatever transhuman singularity you imagine this week. It is the height of foolishness to pretend these wouldn't radically alter us.

Of course given Atlus's sorry inability to write humanity in mainline, maybe any change would be better, but, again, you're killing everyone and everything to do it.

>>157146990
SMT2
IV
IVA

I sill think SJ is better overall.

>>157151648
>already a dumbed down universe since SMT1
Hey, you take that back.

SMT2 had plenty of critical and interesting shit.

>>157151648
>>157151648
Also their answer to the YHVH problem, "Oh shit we have an irredeemable pure black pure evil thing in a gray universe that can't be justified or explained" is retarded.

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So now that hoying has finally ended for good, what could be our new meme?

I personally suggest Ticoposting.

>>157153651
That'd be like ... you know? Bonkers! Ahahaha!

>>157153651
>>157153730
SHUT THE FUCK UP TICO

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>>157153651
I say tooting or boyo posting.

>>157153651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK_w1400aJ8

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>>157153651
hoy posting will never die.

>>157153651
I feel Dagda posting would be relevant if our threads weren't somehow not dying lately.

Also I unironically kind of like Tico, even though her dub makes me want to kill myself at times.
But to be as meme as hoy, you need a repeated phrase that's memey. Nothing in SMT Apoc as far as I know.

>>157153998
>I feel Dagda posting would be relevant if our threads weren't somehow not dying lately.
Everybody already blew their loads on Apocalypse and now we'll return to our regularly scheduled quiet general outside of guys like >>157127694

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>>157154126
Shijima /smtg/ is a cozy place.

I want Dagda to call me boyo

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So I need to find Jacks demon soldier tank in the shopping mall and I really can't fucking find it
All the green women and doppelgangers popping up are annoying the shit out of me so can someone just tell me where the fuck it is

>>157154126
To be fair, I basically stayed away from SMTG for a good year or two because of a) avoiding spoilers from SMT Apoc b) getting tired of the general and c) got a gf

Two of those are out of the picture, namely A and C so I'm back here to shitpost.
Maybe I'll finally get back to making my moh shuvuu folder and posting it for anons like I used to every few weeks or some shit.

>>157153916
I was just messing with you, hoyboy.

/hoy/ is a gift for humanity and it should be preserved.

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I want to play 4A...

the closest I can get to the game right now is drawing pornography of it or hope for citra to get the games to a playable state.

>>157154126

I've been away from the general for a good while too but since I've picked up drawing maybe i'll post a doodle here or there.

>>157154691
Get a 2DS for cheap and pirate it.

But in reality you should have saved some cash. The game was announced since december if I remember right.

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>>157154687

Glad you agree

>>157155089
I'm in debt so every money I make is going to either bills or our apartment debt until we sell this place and move somewhere else, I'll try saving a few, maybe by next year I'll have enough.

Is it possible to download the quests for the Theater in the Japanese version of Persona 2 IS now that they disabled the PSN store for the PSP? Is there somewhere I can download them to my PC and move them onto my PSP?

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Hey smtg, I've started playing smt1 again and i finally beat thor, am I forced to pick a side then and get an alignment change or did I fuck up? I wanna go neutral on my first run.

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>>157155241
How did hoy posting become a thing not that I am complaing, but I don't remember Walter saying hoy that much and I played the game thrice.
I am a yurocuck so I could only play the game a year after its release.

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>>157155636

If I remember right it was a thing that started maybe around the time his design and all that was known years ago. Though I think it was less about the fact that he says hoy and more that people just found his face to be amusing or something.

>>157155636
Hoy seems to be a Casualry dialect, Issachar also hoys frequently.

>>157155481
You can use a PS3 if you have one, pretty sure there was some content manager thingy for Vita on PC as well so maybe try that.

>>157155509
You can kill both, it's not like you can stop nukes anyway.
Basically it's the first real alignment choice in the game.
You can pick Thorman (Law), Gotou (Chaos) or Resistance (Neutral).

>>157127434
>playing through smt4 for the first time
>perpetual reactor
>let's open up that expanse shit awwwwww yeaaaaah
>desert world
>okay. shit.
>defeat Pluto
>post-post-apocalypse world
What the fuck is going on. You didn't prepare me for this game

What's with the meme of Isabeau being a monkey.

I get that Asahi has the same colors as the dog from SMT1 but what's this meme about?

>>157156228
Her ears.

>>157156228
she looks like a monkey

>>157156228
Asahi's design and colors are actually based on Beth from SMT2.
The dog meme is from one of her nicknames you can pick for her being "Pascal".

Bobo's dumb haircut makes her look like a monkey.

>>157156174
I feel SMT does the "what the fuck is even going on" the best.

>going to mall
>suddenly demons
>suddenly your mom is the demons
>suddenly your dog is the demons
>then the military is the demons
>the girl after your cock is also the demons

I'm surprised Hero didn't develop some sort of phobia.

>>157156174
I could explain it to you, but it has some neutral route spoilers.

>>157154503
On the first floor, go north to that elevator (stairs?) Theres a long stretch of hallway after you use the elevator with a hidden door.

>>157156396
He tries not to feel too bad.

>>157156365
Bitch didn't even let me nickname her Pascal.

Pascal is best dog.

>>157156396
>>157156617
No spoilers but this story is not what I expected. I was astonished to find out that it takes place in Tokyo. What a twist.

How the fuck do I even stand a chance against Vishnu-Flynn on war.

Even with war cry, luster candy and imposing stance he's too overpowered.

SMT, but Americanized

>>157156935
Burgermon? Are there 300+ different types of burgers?

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>>157156228
it's the hairstyle and ears

>>157156935
SJ but every game is as grimdark as SJ.

I'd buy every single game in the series.
I hope doomguy found a nice housewife after his shit. I imagine he was a no nonsense military man

>>157156103
I had heroine with me when I went for thorman, but I talked with gotou first before heading to sendagaya.

>>157156618
thanks familia,I always thought that there was nothing there

>>157156935
SMTxEarthbound when?

>>157157278
Unless you killed both then you got points for an alignment.

>>157156935
You've got DDS.

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>>157157272
that relax spray tho

>>157156935
An SMT game that takes place in both America and Japan.

>>157157390
how do I kill both then? go for gotou first and then thor?

>>157155990

Looking at the JP PSN store on there and they're all there. Thank you. Are there any fan-made ones?

>>157157372
undertale

"...but nobody came" is taken straight from SMT 1

>>157157491
I'm really rusty about it but I believe you kill Gotou first and then Thor since thor ends that part of the story.

Regardless, it's alignment points but you can makeup for it later. There's lots of ways to get points, in SMT1 you even get alignment points for demons you use. I'm not sure if this is the case in SMT2 but probably.

>>157157451
Makes me further think he only did things for his missions foremost. Makes sense he'd do neutral since it's what's best for the mission and his crew.

>>157156874
Fog Breath?

>>157157660
Nope, Japan doesn't like IS much because Tadashi made Tamaki his waifu in that game.

>>157157762
good thing I made a backup save, fighting thor was easy and I haven't got past the diamond realm yet so I won't be rowbacking too much.

>>157157762
Well, you DID get orders to save Earth and Zelenin/Jimenez are in essence deserters and traitors to entire humanity and advocate brainwashing

>>157157758
Wait, really? When?

After which event? I don't remember any point where that dialogue comes up. Is it when a demon tries to summon a friend but the part is already full?

If so, then DQ did that years before.

Undertale is also decent game, too much fanwankery though.

>>157157826
To be fair, that's pretty weird.

>>157158107
>To be fair, that's pretty weird.
What's weird? The fact he made his own creation a joke waifu for his self insert character?
It's his fucking creation, he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it. Only otakus who had Tamaki as their waifu got mad, actual retards who masturbated to a 2D JPG. Now that's fucked up.

Emulating PS2 doable on i7 with Intel HD GPU or nope?
I'd like to play Raidou but I suspect the lack of real GPU means I won't be able to.

>>157150196
Nah, they didn't add Satan to Overclocked. He was a Fallen in DeSu2 though, and his summoning introduction was "I am the Fallen Satan, king of demons and the great opposer. I shall rise up once more... "

Whats the casual filter in SMT 1?

>>157159250
Douman provided you didn't fuse Cerberus.
Otherwise Thor and Gotou.

>>157158896
It'll work but you'd have to use hardware mode graphics and that can fuck up the textures of certain games

>>157159250
Douman was casual filter for me because the game bugged out and I lost Pascal forever

>>157157818

Nah, but I already defeated him.

Dear god, he must be the hardest megaten boss I've ever fought.

>>157159250
>implying a casual would even make it to the café

>>157159250
There isn't a casual filter in SMT1, if you're playing it then you're in for the long haul.

Now the ballbusting areas of the game are, warning spoilers, heroine's mind, Ginza, and Cathedral

>>157159467
Why the fuck would anyone emulate in software?
That gives you no enhancements and you're stuck with native resolution which is 320x240 or 480i for most games.

>>157159665
You forgot about Kongokai and Tokyo Destiny Land.

>>157159815
Kongokai is more of an endurance filter.

Fucking frog in Disney Land though...

>>157159665
>tfw had to map out Shinjuku mall with graph paper just to get around

How fugged am I

>>157155990
>>157157660

When I try to move it over it says "The connected PSP system is activated with a different account. If you perform this operation, the current activation will become invalid." Should I just go ahead or could this cause any issues?

>>157159705
Shit I meant the other way round

You have to use software

>>157159982
>Kongokai is more of an endurance filter.
How is Cathedral not just an endurance filter too though?
It's not like there's any powerful shit on 1F and B1F, or traps or pitfals or anything.
It's just that they're extremely huge, just like Kongokai.

Is that remake of DeSu2 worth it?
Seriously considering it after finishing Apoc

>>157160202
You can get babby raped by Rangda if you're new to the series. Also, Vampire or Succubus x4 mobs with Paraleyes. The top floors ironically are easier, while the bottom floors have dark rooms and damage shit all over the place.

>>157160070
You need to be signed with the same account on both, so no it will not be okay and it will delete your existing profile.

>>157160125
But software mode doesn't fuck anything up because Software Mode is 1:1 perfect emulation, it's also A LOT more intensive. I think you just don't know what you're talking about so I guess I'll just give it a try instead.

>>157160257
If you can pirate it definitelty since you can start the new campaign without even playing the original compaign ala the journey and the answer.

>>157160335
Sure other floors are sucky but I was referring to 1F and B1F here.
But yeah Vampires, Succubi and Rangda do roam even on 1F.

Is master suit anon here?
he might like this screenshot

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>mfw SMT1 is my favorite SMT game to replay
It's just so simple, so basic in its design but is so focused and unique, even among the sequels.

Replaying yearly is max comfy.

>>157160598
You didnt censor the sack my man

>>157160598
Nailed it

>>157160779
oh geez I always forget.

>>157159250
Lilith's hordes

>everyone keep saying how bad comic egg and YHVH universe is
honestly they were pretty average and mostly ugly the real hell is the fucking main temple
dungeon fuck who ever designed that

>>157160763
I beat smt once and i have ptsd from the final dungeon all the dungeons actually

personally think SMTII is more comfy

>Really wanna play SMT 1 and 2 since I played SJ and Nocturne and really liked them
>SMT 1 and 2 look like shit and have no map so its impossible to find my way around the place
FUCK

>>157163338
pretty sure there was a spell that gives a map or just get the map hack

>>157163338
>SMT1 and 2 have no map
>I am literally retarded and never actually played the games please rape my face

Kill yourself, get cancer and die

>>157163338
Im in the same boat. No ones answering me >>157160067 confirming my fears.

will Twisted Tokyo if i beat the cosmic egg??

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>>157163879
You don't need any spells or hacks retard, SMT1 and SMT2 have map by default, it's under the fucking R button in SMT2, while in SMT1 you need to open COMP -> Automapper, but there's a patch that let's you access it with R button instead like in SMT2.
The spell you're talking about is something completely different, you access it via MAGIC -> Mapper and it's a spell that lets you navigate in dark areas.

>mfw plebs cannot into SMT1 and 2

>>157160067
>>157164039
Why are you too retarded to play a fucking game to the point you don't even check all the fucking buttons? Seriously kill yourself.

>>157164170
>>157164058
To be fair, the map in SMT1 is pretty dogshit, I can't remember what about it was exactly horrible since it's been years since I played it but I definitely remember the map was pretty piss.

SMT2 map is pretty good.

>>157164170
Anon stop getting so buttflustered.
>>157164039
>>157163338
Comp>Auto map or something, gives Map
Steven gives it to you when you return from getting stabbed by a preta and delivering coffee after sleeping
Or use mapper spell, law and heroine learn it.
Or just use the walk through, gives maps of EVERYWHERE.

Nothing but imbeciles here

>>157162714
>>157162714
Temple dungeon is gay as fuck.

Cosmic Egg is what I imagine sex is like in first person penis POV. That aside its not bad but it is an incredibly boring dungeon.

I haven't got to evil Bob Barbas level yet but I'm not looking forward to it.

>>157165084
Also Ingame map shit outside of knowing what stairs of elevators of exits are. No notes on traps, bosses, and fucking rotates with where you face. Disorientating.
So just use walk through map, notes everything in dungeons.
>>157165189
It's /vg/, what did you expect.

>>157160257
It's DeSu2. Of course it's worth it.

>>157159537
You never fought Beelzebub in IV, did you?

>>157165189
Imbeciles and me, you mean. Fag.

>>157165189
Casualfags

>send a level 70 bird from cosmic egg in DDS for fusion
>get back a level 3 angle
How is this possible

>>157165621

Nope. Got tired and went for the end after killing Mastema. Was he that hard?

Okay I'm about to crack open the cosmic egg and make me an omelette but I hear yellow bald man space has no recruitable pokedemons. Will I have to go to twisted Tokyo if I want late game recruiting?

>>157165950
If you fuse the highest rank of a race with an element that would cause it to rank up it will loop around to the lowest rank.

Can be useful if you want to autism up a powerful version of a low level demon.

>>157166082
You can't recruit from Twisted Tokyo

Cosmic egg is probably the best location

>>157166240
Raptor shouldn't loop to Angel though.

>>157166264
So if I go for bonds ending am I gonna wreck the place and lose that recruitment opportunity?

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>Download Trip to Hawaii dlc
>start quest
>Answer Mephiso's question with "Stay, thou art beautiful"
>Go into fight
>Win fight first time
>Quest completed
>mfw

...I didn't even see Hawaii. Did I fuck up or something

>>157166492
You can just play it again if you want to see the beach episode.

>>157166014
Vishnu-flynn looks like a Pixie compared to him.

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>make shading for one Eye alt
>shading serves for both eye positions

just Asahi cleaning mayo from nanashi's head here, nothing lewd shhh

>>157166661
desperately waiting for the complete versions

but good work

>>157166640
>tfw I thought beelz was required to beat in order to unlock neutral
>grinded super demons to beat that mother fucker
>beat him after struggle
>lucy and merka went down like wimps

Still a breeze compared to Mem Aleph. Holy shit does Mem still give me nightmares.

>>157166791
>he played neutral first

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>>157166240
>>157166358
Same thing happened with my IV DDS when the Demonee-ho I put on thinking "there's no way anyone who lives around my workplace owns this game" met a Matador and came back as an Angel with Desperate Hit.

IV and IVA reuse the same fusion result charts race-by-race, but neither this Fairy -> Divine or your Raptor -> Divine throughput match the expected results (Reaper and Drake respectively), nor do the rank overflows. Unsure if this counts as "Just Fiend Things" because I send everyone on IVA DDS on Growth since Hilarious Inheritances aren't allowed anymore.

>>157166791
>tfw I thought beelz was required to beat in order to unlock neutral

Same. Even when I looked online it said that you had to beat beez for neutral.

>>157166876
Yeah it's just a shame I can't offload trash demons on DDS without coming back with WORSE trash. I'd be fine if it was low level trash but not a fukken level 3 angel. I have so many open fusions for this bird to be mad gasser or some other lousy demon I don't have in the demondex but lol no.

Is there a formula to get that OP matador with both Phys plethoras, charge, the smile move, and phys pierce?

>>157167048
On that note Cosmic Egg tier demons fuse like shit. You have to struggle to get anything good out of that tier except a high end angel and if you haven't been grooming the first angel you got all game wtf were u doin

>>157167256
I was about to ask for a good matador build just unlocked him

>>157127434
Dumb question on IV:A. In a demon, should I prefer to give it healing skills or straight up Healing Knowhow? What if it has healing+ synergy?

>>157158049
>and advocate brainwashing

Yeah, the UN would never advocate something like this. Let's all side with the infallible environmentalist commander gore.

>>157167316
>spend all game grooming an angel
>it's now in my bench because I have Amaterasu, Shiva, and Izanami

Poor little Angel, you were good for a long time at least.

>>157167567
I think it's worth it to have healing knowhow on at least one demon in case Nanashi dies.

>>157167567
Bead Chains and Amrita Sodas are rare. Mediarahan and Amrita less so.

Revival Beads however are cheap enough.

>>157165189
Fucking casualries.

>>157159250
>Whats the casual filter in SMT 1?

Not having a demon with a group lightning attack to stunlock everything.

What the hell do I need to do to trigger Scout+ in SMTIVA? I've recruited a huge amount of demons, but it hasn't triggered even once.

>>157167256
It's not particularly difficult to do so since there are four demons that make up the fusion. Just use the tool and do some planning.

Pretty sure I got all the necessary skills on a macabre, but forgot to overwrite, so I can't be sure.

>>157167490
Andalusia
Soul Drain
Hades Blast
Charge
Phys pierce
phys pleroma
high phys pleroma
drain ice

That's what I run on mine. You could swap out soul drain for something else if you wanted. I just like the mp gain too much to do so.

>>157167831
Recruit the highest level demon in a group.
I don't think scout+ is worth it, it's only rarely useful.

>>157167850
thanks seems like a rad build

>>157168037
Never works no matter how many times I try.

>>157167652
Why would you groom an angel when there is one that is lvl 80+?

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saving all these alts is hell, I need to sort this better next time.

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>>157168732
Angel (Debisama) evolves into each subsequent Divine in the line till it eventually becomes Angel (Nocturne). Easy way to get a bunch of support skills, Magaon, and maybe some combat support on the end result.

>>157150196
Lucifer's is about how he can't comprehend thee and Satan's about how he shall rise again in DeSu2 I recall.

I'm cold

>>157167850
Another guy here what is a good buld for Satan?
I am thinking
Megiddo ark
Great logos
Trisagion or ragnarok
concentrate
Almighty/fire/high fire pleroma

What do you think what my last slot should be I was thinking of fire pierce, but that would be a little redundant if I have Megiddo ark already.
Akasha arts seems cool, but I don't have charge or any phys pleroma to back it up.
Also ragnarok or trisagion?

Which dungeon in SJ is considered the hardest?

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>>157169259
Is that a dog that is in the midst of enjoying the meat that her masters has given to her?

>>157168713
Just keep trying m8, you'll get it eventually

the first scouted demon has to be at least equal level to the scout+ demon

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>>157170230
yes

now save me from saving hell

What level did you guys finish IV A at?
I'm on the 5/8ths moon, currently escaping mikado fuck azrael and I'm 64.
iirc when I finished IV for the first time i was like 71.

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>>157170313
No your soul is damned for eternity to create smt lewds for these threads.

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>>157170313
>16 variants
Suddenly I'm very glad I do work-by-work subfoldering in my lewds directories.

>>157170313
>all those variants
You madman.

>>157170564
everyone finishes the game around level 99.

>>157167850
ok so my Matador right now have
Andalusia
Soul Drain
Hades Blast
Akasha art
Charge
phys pleroma
high phys pleroma
drain ice

not sure what to change when I get phy pierce?
is soul darin even useful when i have mp regain app?

>>157170698
>level 99
Cool, so i'll get to summon Metatron before I beat the game.

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>>157170838
Nope. He's NG+ gated.

Good luck making do with Mastema and Sraosha!

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>>157170583
I think it'll be around 23 variants

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>>157171025
Try 36. Someone get this man a Suit of Hope reference.

>>157170838
anon.. im sorry...

will Twisted Tokyo disappear when i finish the cosmic egg?? i really want to fight the fiends using krishna

>>157170313
Are you going to be uploading these anywhere?

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>>157171196
sorry anon, but maybe another time.

>>157171025
You scare me you beautiful man.>>157148965
>Not Jenna Angel fuckin Sera

>>157170931
what the fuck is this gay shit?
Also what's the type of stuff exclusive to NG+
is it just some level 90s demons?

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>get to the part in massacre where you go to Masakado's rock
>mfw wiping out waves of enemies with smile charge+messiah blaster
That shit felt so satisfying.

correct me if i'm wrong, but in the SMT games I've played They didn't throw midbosses at you back to back, like when you took down the last jar and you fought two midbosses and an actual boss back to back in sequence.
Like I could stand a chance against Azrael if I didn't have to take down two angel hordes beforehand, but i get to him and he just wipes me with mamudoon

Do you not get the ability to fly around the map in Apocalypse?
Or did I miss it?

>>157172432
>play DDS2
>do the archangel sidequest
>go +3 against michael and lose 20 to 30 minutes worth of progress