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remember to use our randomizer

literally first time i make a thread in 10 years lurking and no one is posting
fucking whores

>>157112809
Took long enough.

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>>157112809
cool story

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLDCyjz1Mo

>>157112809
>no general name
>has a fucking trip somehow by accident
you really have never done this before

>>157112549
Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous #70

>>157113181
>still pretending E:Dfags are equal to Shillizens

>>157113164
>Breaking news
Virginally OP just popped his cherry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFBPvBQeA9w

>>157113543
Pretty much
>hour and a half of fucking powerpoint
>here's an ad pls buy lololol

As if SC didn't have a bad enough rep for this shit

>>157113804
Fuck it though, they made another X million and rising. Should be enough to get physX landing gear implemented...

Then maybe we'll get S42... right?

>>157113543
$125 million in funding and nothing to show for it aside from an overpriced tech demo and 5+ years of development.

There's no incentive for them to finish so long as they keep selling ships

>>157113804
>>157113943
>>157114959
Let me play shitizen advocate here

YOU'RE ALL DEREK HOWS THAT 10 BUX

>>157115106
That last nigger is trying too hard but yeah
I bet the greedy sand bitch did this

>>157115227

chris is literally living dereks dream, i would be pretty salty too

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>>157112809

Thread.
Pic related.
I cant stop loving you.

All flyable ships unlocked for everyone until October 17th.

Is this damage control? Do they think they can win me over with.... HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THAT LIST OF SHIPS.

>>157115316
Might want to get rid of that name and trip.

>>157115316
Ecksnay on the ipcodetray, mon capitan.

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>>157113131

Did Derek send you?

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>>157115106
Calm your persecution complex and take a few deep breaths to get rid of that autistic streak.
Let's think about this for a minute.

Most developers:
- Have to wait until release to cash in on what they've created.
- Have to work according to budget and/or schedule.
- If delays happen, you not only risk investors pulling out, but for the project to be cancelled or released in a horrible state.

CIG on the other hand:
- Has a steady flow of income, right now.
- They are in development.
- No timetable / investors / fire under their feet. People keep buying ships anyway.

It is like an insanely huge pre-sale, where CIG has 'pre-sold' the game as well as assets within. They are profiting from this now and have been for years. When they actually finish the game, they basically give backers what they've already paid for. Any new revenue comes from new buyers only or ingame credit purchases.

With this in mind, and the willingness of players to buy ships (just look at the Polaris sale), what incentive does CIG have to actually finish the game, like ever? They can just keep the development cycle indefinitely and keep profiting. That's not all, they actually benefit from keeping a very 'general' unfocused development cycle. (Like announcing 'Spectrum' and working on that) and delivering small bits here and there.

I honestly I am at the point where I feel CIG make more money now than they will after they've actually released something. I think we're that far in at this point.

I started thinking this way after CitCon where we get shown these new things they're working on that nobody has asked for, and they still haven't delivered old content.

>>157112549
>still not using the Mega folder
Get your shit together OP

https://mega.nz/#F!3tpUlapR

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>>157112549
I remember old OC. Some Anon made this for your phone start up screen. Postan for you Anons that may want it again.

>>157115852
wtf i hate sc now

>>157115852
>Nobody asked for
>People haven't been asking for Voip and easy organization for their shitty orgs

Shiggy

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>>157115852

Ship sales are nice, I guess. I would rather see progress on the game I spent over 500 USD on though. Citcon was alright.

>Spacebook
>scripted missions
>planet editor

Just not up to my expectations as an older backer. Though, I am in this in for the long haul. I do believe that Chris Roberts intends to deliver a product he can be proud of, though, not one that everyone can be.

>>157116115
So what's the incentive for orgs to move from their already established third party social infrastructure (forums, VOIP / IM client) to a proprietary system run by CIG?

It's wasted development.

>>157116445
>What's the incentive

Not having to have extra shit running on your computer. Not having to use third parties to organize everything. Everyone always bitches about having to use TS/Mumble and now DIscord. Everyone always bitches about having people locked away in parties. People bitch about having to visit third party forums for shit that should be in game.

>>157115942
Hey I remember doing this on my old rooted phone back when they first showed the boot up sequence. Saved, thanks anon.

>>157116445
It'll be integrated with the game, as in VOIP, forums, chat, profiles all will be usable within the game and outside the game. Yo'll have the same spacebook app on your Omnitool within SC, and you can communicate directly with people on their phones with the same app.

>>157116565
it's not even going to be in game though, it's literally just going to be a web app

>>157116652
Isn't it integrated with their services?

>>157116652
It's web app + desktop app + mobile app +in-game app

>>157116652
Did you miss the big "IN GAME INTEGRATION" screen? It's alright if you did, I was either angry or asleep for the first bit of the presentation, but you'll be viewing it on your phone in reality and mobiglas in-game.

>>157116803
the voice part is
everything else is web facing.

It's literally their version of discord.

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>>157116578

;^)

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>>157116870
Clearly you missed what they were saying, because the voice part is specifically "not where it ends."

>>157117210
I can see shitposting in general org chat as a viable occupation while traversing the star system to the next jump point.

>>157117210
I still can't believe they called it spectrum the absolute madmen

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41st for best ship in 3.x

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>>157118183
I know, isn't it great? Aren't you just giddy about the fact people are going to shout "I'M ON THE SPECTRUM" with absolutely no clue what that means in psychology? It's like they're handing us a ready-made joke machine and we'd be stupid not to take advantage of it, regardless of whether or not you support the game. It's goddamn perfect.

>>157116652
>I didn't even bother watching the presentation about X feature but I'll spout shit about it anyways
Away with you

>>157118289
The Terrapin posting is supposed to be ironic, right? Due to how terrible it is and all?

>>157115616
So, everyone hates on the Gladius right? I just flew it around a bit, and it feels pretty sexy. Same firepower as an avenger but x2 the manouverability is what I roughly though.
Seems ok?

>>157118560
It's not the Cutlass.

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>>157118560
>Terrapin
>terriple

>>157118612
It actually worse than the avenger since scorpon is horribly inferior to the anveger's tighterstriek. The ship was made when shields were weak as fuck and missiles were hot shit. And now that neither of those is true, it's kind of a bad joke that can be out gunned by a space bmw thats nearly half the price..

>>157118289
apart from the transforming parts, the terrapin is actually a decent design for once
>no useless wings
>no shitty turrets
>literally a flying tank

>>157119135
You forgot:
>Not enough beds
>No small cargo area to hold extra supplies for long range missions.
>No escape/ejection mechanism
>No docking collar
>No life pod recovery or medical systems to actually fulfill search and rescue role.
>Only defense tactic is to hope other ships get bored of shooting at you and leave.

>>157118612
How does it compare to the Sabre?

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>>157119629
>Terrapin
>Search & Rescue
what? it's a small/medium CIC ship

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>>157119135
literally a flying tank
>Flying brick.

>>157119773
Sabre has better shields (even after the bug gets fixed) far superior firepower, slightly less agility, slightly less speed, slightly less missile power.

>>157120163
Sabre is also nearly twice the $ value of the Gladius

>>157119629
doesnt that depend on how moddable the interior is?

>>157119985
>Terrapin often serve as combat search-and-rescue ships, a role they came into after testing proved their ability to perform precise combat pickups while under heavy enemy ground fire.

It's mentioned right on the ship page.

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>>157120268
I hardly think the Terrapin rescues ground troops with intent for surgery in the ship, it's just there to rapidly transport the troops out of the hot zone and deliver them to a larger ship where troops would be able to get the care they need.

Redpill me on citcom 2016.

>>157120758
Christ Roberts spoiled us with his presence, showing powerpoints , 750$ ship commercial and a short demo of things already seen with slight modifications. 10/10

>>157120758
dont believe his lies

>>157120758
Delay Citizen 2:Squadron 42 Boogaloo

I still bought a Polaris.

Some day CiG will learn to shut the fuck up about dates unless they know they will make them. Everytime this shit happens SC get a mountain of bad press and any of us who support of even mention this to non-backers gets a wave of flak from ignorant memers.

Fucks sake Chris I've been beating your drum for 4 years, stop making me look like an Idiot for believing in your dream.

>>157121016
they played it smart this time and gave no dates

>>157121585
also CR literally saying to not hold him to dates
he still said like 3 months every update or something like that though
>>157121016
I think the bad press from selling ships is far more prominent than missing dates

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>>157119135
>serves no purpose that a more specialized ship doesnt do better
>cost like 220 dollars or some hilarious bullshit
>b-but it looks good b-but it's armored

pretty sure they sold you a really really expensive really hard to kill aurora. love the design but i lost all interest immediately when it wasnt a dedicated APC/dropship/ hovertank

>tfw doing everything better at 950 meters per second in a herald next patch

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The comments are 10/10 gold

https://games.slashdot.org/story/04/07/17/0533221/derek-smart-lusting-rights-to-freespace

>>157122481
I can't tell if he's really desperate to make sure he keeps any possible money his IPs could make, or so delusional that he thinks people actually want the games

>Really pathetic attempt at competing with star citizen, followed by a few million in debt and him suicide bombing CIG during a live stream

>>157116115
They literally have been for two years

>>157123063
desu why do they even need to organize at this point in this game
theres literally nothing to gain

>>157123189
It will be useful in the future.

>>157122678
Look at the date you mong

>>157123189
Their reasoning on ripping off battlefields model is if the game crashes you can keep in contact with your group. The alpha build crashes all of the fucking time. Why are you in this thread?

>>157123289
maybe but it seems like they are jumping ahead.
they should have spend the resources getting ships/environments/activities instead of the social aspect

>>157123390
why shouldnt i be in this thread? Cant you guys take a little criticism?

>>157123472
No

>>157123491
Then go to reddit, you will fit right in
although reddit was also disapointed about the citizencon presentation kek

>>157123472
You say 'you guys' like you understand my opinion on SC. I only pointed out that you had no idea what you're talking about. Try to contribute actual criticism instead of asking dumb rhetorical questions that you would have known about given your question. I'm sure there are better threads to troll up, unless you're using this one as training wheels.

>>157121671
I think the opposite, the ships commercial way gay and REALLY poorly timed, but will be forgotten about quickly, selling ships is what star citizen does to fund itself, everyone who knows anything at all about the game knows this. Further any time someone talks about the ships sales you can flip right around and point out that this is a triple A game you can get for 45 bucks with no subscription and everything can be acquired through gameplay, even the knicknacks and flair items.

The missed dates on the other hand will be pointed to again and again, and to bring them up is a fair if somewhat uninformed criticism, SC has Missed basically every realease date they have ever announced, because they always predict things will be easier than they are. Look at all the gaming Pres articles out right now about "Squadron 42 delayed indefinitely" that's the drum theyre all gonna beat because they know it'll get more attention, no one gives a shit that CIG sells ships, it's old accepted news that whales like me are willing to part with silly sums of money for Jpegs, no one really cares or is surprised about that anymore, and the only way that story couyld be raised from the dead is if they sold a $5000 cruiser or carrierNO SANDI DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT Where every time CIG misses another Projected release it is a New and Exciting failure to to pick at.

>>157115852
>They can just keep the development cycle indefinitely and keep profiting.

That was already the plan. Game packages are going to bundled with mid-range ships (constellation price range) and sold after release drops. They will also continue to improve upon existing ships in-universe, presumably to be sold in the cash shop too.

>>157123869
> Game packages are going to
Continue to be bundled*. I should have looked at the shop more closely.

>>157123869
>>157123937
?

No more Aurora/Mustang packagers after release, the starter ship will be a Constellation?

And where did they mention that they will continue to sell ships after release. We've heard the opposite many times, that the only thing you'll be able to buy is limited amounts of UEC every so often.

>>157124025
>No more Aurora/Mustang packagers after release, the starter ship will be a Constellation?
No no. Players will continue to be given the option of purchasing larger ships at the start of the game just like they are now.
>And where did they mention that they will continue to sell ships after release.
Not ships, packages. I will try to find the link.

>>157123806

>The missed dates on the other hand will be pointed to again and again, and to bring them up is a fair if somewhat uninformed criticism, SC has Missed basically every realease date they have ever announced

We are quite literally at the point where anyone who follows this game stopped caring. I expected Squadron 42 to be both broken up into pieces and pushed back to 2017 months ago.

I was pretty fucking pissed off at the CitizenCon presentation due to how mind-numbingly boring it was. The ship commercial was nothing more to me than some semi-in-fiction announcement for the Polaris sale. I was still pissed around the time the demo video was flying through trees on a Savannah.

It took me until the demo got to the Dragonflies to stop being mad as fuck. Then I started to get some Far Cry 2-esque vibes from it and started being impressed. By the end I was still mildly disappointed about no SQ42 gameplay but I can't really say the whole presentation was horrible with a straight face.

>Look at all the gaming Pres articles out right now about "Squadron 42 delayed indefinitely"

None of these articles mattered the first time they were published months ago.

>>157124025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFv6Hoe5wE8

8m35s

>>157124121
Ok, so game packages with different ships at different price tiers. I didn't realize charging $60 for the game and offering optional UEC purchases may not be enough to sustain the game after release. I just hope they don't go too crazy with it and offer say, a Polaris game package for $750.

Why aren't the ships flown by artificial intelligence?

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>>157124680

>why doesn't the game play itself

>watch citizen con demo
>looks solid time to forget about the game for another 6 months
>get linked to plebbit
>rectal ragnarok because m-m-muh s42
I'm so glad I bought into this babby train

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Man I sort of feel anxious the entire time since Citizencon. Like some sort of second hand embarrassment for Chris. He's fucked up. Pissed off everyone. Told everyone we'd see SQ42 and then we didn't. Pissed off the press. Pissed off his devs with an ultimately useless crunch time. Pissed off fans who backed for S42. Started may-maying on stage. I hope the radio silence is followed up by some juicy damage control in the form of giving out info and shit

>>157124723
great insight peepee

>>157124723
he got too excited at gamescom and made a bunch of promises he couldn't keep. AGAIN

>>157124723
I don't know if this is damage control (probably is), but all currently flyable ships are unlocked for all backers until October 17th.

>>157124360
>Can buy the game and get a ship attached to it so you can actually play
I mean, they gotta still fucking sell the game, so you'll be getting an Aurora with the purchase of Star Citizen so you can actually play Star Citizen. That's not going back on anything. They gotta still sell the game to new people and not just UEC after release.

We now know the specs of the demo PC at CitizenCon.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news/2637-system-specs-for-demo-pcs-at-citizencon-2016

>>157124221
they don't matter to US, they matter to the new backers and normies we will need to continue attracting to keep funding development. Shit isn't free and while $128 or w/e we are at now million is a lot funding needs to keep coming in to keep the project healthily chugging along. It's not like they still have all that money in a big pile waiting to be spent.

I actually like the demo I've watched it a couple times on youtube now and still thinks its neat as hell. What I didnt like was them waiting until they were on stage and showinf stuff to announce the delay, they didnt know the demo fo SQ42 wanst going to be ready, but they DID know the delay was coming and they should have said that in a letter from the chairman, no literally on stage primetime right after a commercial asking for more money. That is like the worst possible time to do that and gives the goons smarties and "press" a big pile of ammo to work with.

The articles and appearances only matter in terms of the outward facing public perception of the project and right now that perception is kind of a running joke and it just got a new punch line. However that joke costs us potential backers, I know I have literally a dozen friends who only spout memes and crack jokes when I mention SC.

>>157124986
>I didn't realize charging $60 for the game and offering optional UEC purchases may not be enough to sustain the game after release. I just hope they don't go too crazy with it and offer say, a Polaris game package for $750.

>>157125019
Remember that it ran at 100 FPS, so if you just want 50 FPS or so a much cheaper build is going to be viable

>>157125128
They were probably running at 1080p though right? My monitor is 1440p so I will definitely be upgrading my 780 sometime before release so I can hopefully get a constant 60 fps.

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>>157125054

>That is like the worst possible time to do that and gives the goons smarties and "press" a big pile of ammo to work with.

You ever heard the phrase "there's no such thing as bad publicity" before? CIG have rock solid evidence that every time a clickbait smear article comes out their funding spikes. Every time Derek Smart goes on a new tirade their funding spikes. A bunch of controversy surrounding a story made of 50% bullshit makes them more money than story that says the game looks neat but it's not done yet.

>>157125128
it dropped below 60 to 50 levels during the demo, i wouldn't get my hopes up

>>157125310
But Gamestar had exactly such an article. Looks neat, not done yet, no shitflinging yet a negative vibe. That's from one of their "friendly" outlets. The worst possible outcome.

>>157125420
Bottom line is that Around the Verse and whatever their "Special Q&A" goes over better be fucking good. Since ATV is in Frankfurt it's a given we'll be seeing a lot of good shit, but without seeing a finished Squadron 42 mission, as I hope they're gearing up to show anyway (perhaps in a 10 For the Chairman), that wave of CitizenCon skepticism isn't going away for a lot of people.

>>157124986
Don't copy me faggot

Ok all this goonposting aside.

The Polaris.

How modular is it going to be I wonder and will I be able to socket a BFG turret or turrets into the space occupied by the hangar. Seem like a no brainer to me. I was pretty much going to get a corvette barring it look like complete ass or it costing a thousand dollars. But what I really want still is a prop Turret boat with a hard focus on gunnery.

SC seems to have two scale of direct fire weapon thus far, rapid fire pea shooter designed for popping fighters and capital class superweapon the ships is built entirely around?

We have Yamato Cannons and AA guns, where are the 6 8 and 10 inchers? I want fire duels dammit!

You damn goons!

>>157124718
>bought

I made an account to try out the game during free fly days.

Best way to go about this circus.

>>157125938
No best way was to buy in during the $20 sales.

Being a free fly parasite is the second best way, because in 3 years when this is clearly the best game in the world bar none, you are going to have to pay 60 dollars for it.

>>157126035
>because in 3 years when this is clearly the best game in the world bar none

You don't know that, and I sincerely doubt it will be.

>>157126273
What game currently holds the title as best game in the world for you?

>>157126372
Tetris.

>>157126372

In terms of what?

>>157126467
Overall. You said you sincerely doubt this game will be the best game in the world when it releases. That is a subjective term, so I am wondering what you'd consider is currently the best game in the world.

>>157126634
God Hand

>>157126634

Legacy of Kain

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>>157123869
>Game packages are going to bundled with mid-range ships (constellation price range)

>constellation price range

>>157124121
>Players will continue to be given the option of purchasing larger ships at the start of the game just like they are now.

>>157124360
I've seen this interview before and I remember nothing about the constellation being mentioned. I watched it again up to about 11:20, hopefully that's the section you meant.

>I'm going to start with my Aurora,

Fine, this was known. Might exclude the LX I guess.

>I'm going to start with my Hornet or something

Is this where you're getting the "Constellation price range" thing from? This depends heavily on the variant he means. The F7C-M SuperHornet is a higher price than the Taurus, sure, but the leap from the price of a F7C civilian model to a Taurus is pretty big. Whether the F7C-M SuperHornet will be available post-launch as a starting option is debatable, since it's only available during certain periods such as the Polaris sale that's happening now.

CIG don't have a public list of "starter ships" that will be tied to packages post-release, at least not yet. Reliants are likely candidates since they have been called "tier 2 starter ships", and there's some cross-over between the term when it's used to denote a ship which is the first or smallest ship which is dedicated to a role, for example the Prospector being a "starter mining ship", even if it does cost about the same as an F7C IIRC.

Personally I can see them keeping all normally-available ship packages, and making everything that can normally be CCU'd into available as "starter" packages, as we know CCU options will end on release. This includes "high-end" packages like the Completionist, because who doesn't fucking love money? No evidence either way though. We'll see.

>>157126669
>>157126846

To me, if Star Citizen really does accomplish everything it has promised it is going to achieve, it will easily be my favorite game of all time.

The sheer amount of possibilites in this game, all the things you can do. The scope, scale and level of detail. This has never been attempted at this level before. From a technical standpoint, it would certainly be the most massive and complex game ever made.

>>157127075
obv temp

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>citizencon

Fug

>>157127075
Looks too good to be real
Not good in terms of taste, good in terms of FIDELITY

>>157125054
>That is like the worst possible time to do that and gives the goons smarties and "press" a big pile of ammo to work with.
Ever wondered if maybe they are right?

>>157128145
>Ever wondered if maybe they are right?

No.

>>157128145
No, they're not right, they ignorant of how the real world works and throw shitfits when it does not bend to match their fantasies.

Game development takes time. I backed for a game in 2012 fully expecting it to not come out till 2015 or 16, if thats 17 or 18 so be it. Thems the breaks. It will come out eventually and when it does it will be better for having been done properly instead of half assed and rushed out to meet an arbitrary deadline.

Delays don't make me salty, poor handling of delays and deceptivness about delays and feeding trolls by tieing together a ship sale with a delay announcement makes me salty

>>157125054

Your point about announce the delay on-stage is spot on.

They should've had CitizenCon rehearsed and ready to go a week or two in advance. If there was an issue with showing Squadron 42 they could've clarified that beforehand.
It was really just a PR fuck-up on their part.
The right approach should've been

>Prepare weeks in advance so you know exactly what works and how it works
>Keep stuff aside as a back up in case something major miraculously breaks on the night
>Announce any possible delays as soon as you're aware and explain what they are

Now everyone has access to every ship, how would I go about spawning a Starfarer in my hangar? I can't find the point on the floor...

>>157129704
I think it can only spawn in certain hangars

>>157129704
You need to use the Revel&York hangar, the other ones are too small

>>157129772
>>157129785

I'm in Revel and York. Just can't find the slot to spawn it in.

>>157129814
should be right in the middle, size 5-6

>>157129814
If you're looking straight ahead to the end of the hangar opposite of the elevator, it's in the middle, but farther back (more towards the hangar door). Just keep walking straight ahead and you won't miss it.

>>157129918
>>157130448
OK, found it, damn that's big. Also really easy to get lost in.

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Found a black hole really close to a binary pair, and discovered that apparently black holes only distort the skybox or something like that.
Pic related, there's a black hole right in front of me, between me and those two stars. Completely nonsensical.

ded gaems

>>157131248
VISION

>>157121016
>I still bought a Polaris.
cultists in a nutshell or are you Admiral?

anyway CIG marketing a genius

>>157125128
>100
top lel it fell to 39

>>157125019
>~$1700 +/- $300 for board & RAM

thank god this shitgame will come out 2020, maybe the prices will be ok by then

>>157126035
>$20
would be great but doubt it will be this cheap ever again

>>157127008
>if
>promised
>never been
>would
>ever

not wanting to pop you bubble but anon..

>>157134026
A player won't need anywhere near that much RAM. They needed that for the planet development tool showcase.

>>157134026
Most optimization is not done tell the every end.

>>157135306
ram is the cheapest part of a new computer m8

its the fucking cpu and gpu that kills my wallet

>>157134097
Might be during the November sale, keep your eyes open for "star citizen starter" or something of that sort.

I bought like 5 last time around and gave em to friends.

>>157133683
I'll admit that I'm a true believer, I get frustrated and impatient and assmad now and then about the day to day week to week stupidity, but I have no doubt that the end result will be worth the money and time.

I bought a Polaris cus I wanted one, I wanted an Idris back in the day but couldn't quite swing the and also wasn't sure I'd have the crew, The Idris got big and fat and has passed well beyond what I want for a ship, at least at first. Now along comes the small fast turret boat I wanted and it even has sub style torpedo tubes, which is something Ive been pining for all along. I'm not really a fan of the RSI design language, but the polaris is the least insect like of their line so I can deal with it. I'd prefer it didnt have a fighter though, pocket carrier autism strikes again. Which is why I hope we'll have the option to do something else with the hangar slot. What I really want is something along the lines of a second world war American destroyer, a couple medium sized guns a couple torpedo launchers and a healthy amount of flak, thus far the polaris is the closest option. In the modern world every ship can hold a helicopter I guess.

I bought the Polaris during the pre-sale, for $625, cus concierge. No, I'm not admiral dogbriati and am in fact one of the people behind the "drop everything and hi-jack/crash that autists javelin" pact.

I haven't bought anything with actual money for almost two years, I've just been swapping around store credit and LTI tokens, this sale(actual sale omg!!) finally gave me an excuse to throw more money at chris's dream and ben's cheese fund.

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>take out modded iEagle for a spin
>strip it down
>666m/s lel
>boost out the mail slot, fuck around
>come back in
>can't slow down in time
>hit the back ot the hangar
>7% hull
>on my way to pad scrape a control tower
>eject eject eject

>>157135456
>"drop everything and hi-jack/crash that autists javelin" pact.

Jesus fuck me too and I also have a Polaris. How many fucking people have a Polaris ITT?

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>>157136473
In development now by Josh Coon who did the Herald

>>157135456
there will be destroyers in game, they just haven't concepted them yet.

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>>157136473
>>157136531
Someone can get the link to all the things he said about it, but main thing is more like the original concept art and a wider exit ramp that can take a Dragonfly.

>>157136568
There's already a Destroyer, the Javelin

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>>157136636
He did a very long Q&A here


https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5336gj/cutlass_entering_rework/

>>157136629
>posting stolen content of a dead org

>>157136568
The Jav already exists to some extent >>157136636 but it isn't what I'm talking about, or what I want.

Star Citizens "Destroyer" is the size of a modern Supercarrier. I want a Ship akin to the USS Clemson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Clemson_(DD-186)

>>157137683
yes yes, sorry, I forgot that CIG calls ships whatever they feel like. I mean that there will definitely be what you're talking about. I don't think it's the polaris. Maybe they'll call it a battlecruiser, like in EvE.

>>157137683
So you're wanting a 90 meter brawler? Wait for the Redeemers size increase to be a Aegis Constellation gunboat, or wait for another future Corvette.

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>>157137898
The battlecruiser will be slightly smaller than the Bengal. What I was is about the size of the Polaris, maybe a little smaller, but not much, Basically what I want is a modular cousin of the polaris with some slightly bigger guns and a few more torpedoes instead of a bloody hangar. Preferably made by like Drake or Aegis.

A while back when they were soliciting Idea about the polaris I made pic related as a suggested style sheet.

>>157136851
fugg how close was he?

>>157138075
Fuck everything about the redeemer.
I already have a Polaris, no need to wait for later, It'll do what I want for now. I might trade it if I get an actual shipfu, but for now it'll serve as a flagship for my little org fleet and mothership for my single seaters, one of my buddies has a 350R and GOTTA GO FAST brand autism, maybe I'll use it as a racing team carrier.

>>157138678
couple feet, that happened last year, a arresting cable snapped, on Eisenhower I think it was. That's why they land at full power on carriers. Yea it might snap the cable, but if the cable snaps and your not already at full power you're just fucked.

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>>157137898
SC's warship scale is like this:
Dreadnought > (Javelin) Carrer > Escort Carrier > Battle Cruiser > Cruiser > Destroyer > Frigate > Corvette

We know we're getting the Battlecruiser and Cruiser because they're the 17m and 4.5Mill stretch goals.

Picture from the ancient leak: https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/85992/battleship-cruiser-silhouette-in-wmh

sub $100 Anvil ship when?

>>157138870
Hurricane or Wasp sale most likely.

>>157118289
I love the fact that people will get mega upset once they realize how out of proportions that ship is to the people in the art.
It looks cutlass sized but is really like a bloated hornet.

>>157138857
$5,000 Cruiser sale confirmed for next year, limited to 100 ships. Admiral will have an aneurysm.

>>157136851
god I fucking hate reddit's interface so fucking much

I shouldn't have to mine through autists for the fucking information

>>157139057
this Admiral guy, whats is fucking wrong with him?

anyway

>no bannerlord
>no 3.0

fucking shit, there is no other game that have my interest

>>157139282
fucking this, fucking cancer interface

>>157139532

Aye, who is Admiral?

>>157139532
He didn't get a javelin when they first went on sale then threw a literal week long multi-spectrum tantrum until he got one, then used his newly acquired internet notoriety to whine and bitch about literally everything that crossed his mind regarding star citizen on ground that if he could cry enough for CiG to let him give them $2500 then he could cry enough to get anything he wanted changed as well. He persisted in this notion for at least like 6 months to a year.

We made a pact In the golden age of SCG to keep an eye on him, and whenever he tries to pull that javelin out of port with a crew of NPCs(because he is a friendless autistic manchild) one of the thing he whined about is how he should be able to fly his 40 man crew 50 guns destroyer completely alone. All existing Rivalries and contests will be set aside, profit and loss will not be considered. We will band together, we will disable and board his javelin, we will take him alive and lock him in his own brig, and then we will fly his javelin into the nearest star, planet, asteroid, black hole or other convenient celestial object.

>>157139835
A guy from the RSI forum who is like the biggest autist ever, there is images some of his post.

>>157139886
kek Im in

we need a list or something for people like him

>>157139886
don't forget he owns like 2 idrises, 40 auroras (for the "NPC slots" ????) and thousands of dollars of other shits too.

>>157139886

I'm totally up for this.

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>>157139886

>>157140396

"what's wrong with that?"

The amount of bitching he'll inevitably do when players board and commandeer his NPC Idris and then use them to take down his woefully undermanned Javelin.

Freefly when? I am still on the fence about sc but I have been putting money aside in case I like it

>>157140026
>>157139907
>>157140210
>>157140220
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/profile/comments/162375/Admiral

Theres a lot of comments to dig into, I honestly dont remember when his spergout went down, but it would have been during and after the first javelin sale. Dig in if you want to acquire a seething hatred for someone who totally deserves whatever we can think of to do to them.

>>157140663
Citizencon was such a disaster that they do not want more publicity at the moment

>>157142353
Interesting point, I wonder if they would have done a free-fly event if the S42 demo had gone ahead.

>>157142353
>>157142675

They're most likely reserving free fly for when 2.6 drops. Hopefully by the end of this month.

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>>157142757
I wonder if they're going to aim for one of the livestream dates revealing the first polished S42 mission along with SM in 2.6 at the same time and a free-fly event. That would make sense. Might even coincide with the anniversary sale.

I'm not confident 2.6 will be here any time soon, Evocati still have 2.5.1, as far as we know. SM is going to need some damn extensive testing, since every codbabby and their brother will be playing and complaining about it if it sucks a huge amount.

>>157143270
Star Marine was a mistake

>okay guys, we're planning on releasing this FPS environment to properly test all of our shit
>Okay guys, the people we outsourced it weren't up to par, we're not releasing it any time soon
>Okay guys, we don't really need it anymore because have most of that shit in base game already
>BUH YOU SAID

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Couldn't they have just kept the standard MISC engines for the Gemini? The Aegis copypasta ones are terrible. Plus the intakes or whatever look like shit.

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>>157143587
MISC engines for reference.

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who /space truckin'/ here?

>>157121671
>3 months every update
I don't believe it

>>157143704
When are they even going to integrate colored UI properly? Didn't they promise this?

>>157143571
>Okay guys, we don't really need it anymore because have most of that shit in base game already

Except they do need it, and it's supposed to be in 2.6 for testing so they can get S42 working well.

Evocati are testing flight model changes (affects SC) and SM is coming in 2.6 (apparently). both these things are happening now because they have to get that first S42 mission polished and shit.

Unless you mean the decision to include ground-based FPS has caused a fuckton of issues in general, in which case I agree.

>>157143587
Gemini is literally a modification by Aegis, so no.

>>157144097
>Unless you mean

No, I mean having an entirely different gamemode/arena/whatever dedicated strictly to FPS was a mistake. What's the point of having a game within a game like that when I can do the same thing at Kareah or some shit?

>>157144241

> What's the point of having a game within a game like that when I can do the same thing at Kareah or some shit?|

bc a fuckton of people have been shitting on CIG for promising it and never delivering.

At some point CR got confident that Frankfurt could do enough heavy lifting to warrant Star Marine

>>157144458
>bc a fuckton of people have been shitting on

Which goes straight back to my first point of Star Marine being a mistake.

>>157144241
>What's the point of having a game within a game like that
>No mmo ever has had a separate mode for arena pvp
Just stop with your idiocy

>>157144579
>Implying this is arena pvp

Stop with your faggotry. This is a fucking COD within a space sim. It's unnecessary and completely retarded that they thought to promise it in the first place.

And arena pvp is already in. Arena Commander, you fucking retard.

>>157144543

Back then CR wanted release every major game-play aspect as a separate module for extra "testing". Luckily Erin (sort of) put things back on track

>>157143786
Eye bleeding orange ui is part of the Vision(tm)

>>157144241
So you can FUCKING GIT GUD

How fucking SOUL DESTROYING do you think it would be to have to go out, as a new player in the universe, and have to fumble around like a cumstained muppet with your shitty starter-ship's controls and try to get to a point where you can reliably kill pirates and defend yourself, and every time you die you have to wait five minutes or so for your ship to respawn and/or pay in-game currency to get it back.

Same deal with FPS gameplay.

CR mentioned outright that having to trek back to Kareah was a pain in the ass.

>>157144710
>A game with both fps and vehicle combat can only have one pvp mode
Also
>It's two teams fighting in a confined area but it's totally not an arena
Yeah, no, get fucked.

>>157145070
>Having to trek back to Kareah was a pain in the ass

Which leads me to question, how difficult would it be taking that station/map, putting it into Arena Commander, setting some spawn points and calling it a day. But they can't do that because MUH STAR MARINE U PROMISED EVEN THOUGH ITS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE A TEST

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>>157143704
>no "Gay Sex With HATS on" tab
ya blew it

>>157138280
they clearly used this for the terapin

like comepletely used this without any shame

>>157145261
That would probably be relatively easy, and would also be more fucking boring than capture the core. Capture the core is crap, sure, but nobody really cared about capture the core to begin with. There wasn't a capture the core module which literally sold people on the game.

CIG would get fucking SLAMMED for making such a shitty simplistic impression with their first big game-mode reveal in months (years?) after talking endlessly about fidelity, detail and mechanical complexity. This is the same deal as the S42 demo to some extent, maybe even more so. People will immediately compare SM to COD[sequel], battlefield one, and other AAA shooters, and it would be fucking terrible.

I mean, it's still going to be fucking terrible when it finally drops, because it'll probably be buggy as shit, and a bunch of lvlcap fanboys will come crawling out of the woodwork and whine about everything. But a poor first impression would be disastrous.

We have two major impressions to make, S42 polished gameplay, and playable alpha FPS module. These are both fucking important to get right, and they only get one shot at it. A lot of people are going to play one round of SM, or look at the first "polished" version of the S42 demo, and if there isn't a level of competency evident, they'll think "shit game" to themselves and quit, never to come back.

Khartu-al is pretty fun to fly desu, shame it's otherwise useless

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>>157126634
personally I'd say Homeworld with Half Life and Mario Kart right behind that.

Mileage may vary and to each his own, but Homeworld is excellent and I can replay it all the time, which to me is the cornerstone of a great game. Plus it got me into RTS which is a genre I now love.

Pic unrelated.

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YO, I NEED YOU TO TELL ME RIGHT NOW.

1060 6GB OR RX 480 8GB

I can't find a proper answer anywhere, I heard RX 480 will have a better compatibility with SC. Is that true?

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>>157125019

>>157146446
Game wont be coming out in years, don't buy based on what SC is NOW

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>>157146446
>1060

>>157146668
Nice rig nigger it will only be 3 years out of date on release

>>157127001
I can't imagine a reason why they would pull connie packages but continue to sell hornet packages. Both entry level variants are in the $100-$200 range.

Apparently if you have the polaris you get to fly every flyable ship except the starfarer.
This is pretty neat desu.

>>157147280
Scratch that you get the starfarer too

>>157147102
See when I think of "price range" I think more like the way the F7C, Cutlass and Freelancer were meant to all be in the same price range, offering a sliding scale of more combat, less trading, to more trading, less combat.

Regardless, the final list of starter ships has not been released and won't be for some time. Likely very close to release.

haven't played elite since flying to some outpost with slaves was the best way to make dosh

lemme guess, its some other outpost?

>>157147280
Thats for everybody.

Stop being stupid.

>>157147280
It's a promotion for all backers. Check twitter.

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> oh Boy I hope they release news on the caterpillar.. they've been hyping that up for awhile now.
>3.0
Welp....

>>157146219
Like I said originally, Star Marine was a mistake. I'm sure Roberts is completely regretting even offering such a thing, because I'm certain that Star Marine is actually taking away development time from more important things.

True, they would still need to develop the FPS portion of the game, but making that CODlite within the game I'm certain is just detrimental in the long run.

>>157148680
If it wasn't there, the entire universe would be retarded and not make sense.

Hey, a huge space sim where we can go around and EVA and repair our ships and meet up with friends on the stations and fly around and we're at war with a fucking alien race but NOBODY HAS ANY HANDGUNS.

>>157148904
>If this arena game mode that has nothing to do with the rest of the game wasn't there the entire universe would be retarded and not make sense

???

>>157147725
>Stop being stupid.
Too late I already sprung for the Polaris.
>>157147783
That's pretty neato!

I made the assumption as I was checking out what loaner you'd get if you own the Polaris and I noticed there was everything.
My bad.

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How do I spawn large ships in the VGF hangar?

>>157149003
>arena game mode that has nothing to do with the rest of the game

In the same way that AC has nothing to do with the rest of the game, sure.

>>157149290
Side bays. Starfarers only fit in the Wood and Plastic hangar

>>157148137
not pictured: cutlass rework sneaks into 3.0 with caterpillar

>>157149471
My hangar only has one central platform these days.

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>Derek Smart on suicide watch

>>157149772
revel and york is the only hangar for starfarer.

can also fit 6 size 1s, 2 size 1s, 4 size 3s

>>157149880
Neat!
Screenshots galore here we go!

>>157149852

I think the Squadron 42 demo delay saved his life for at least the rest of the year

>>157146446
>1060

no. I know nothing about ATI tho

>>157150115
>>157149852
>rest of the year
Unless the trailer comes out in the next 4 weeks

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Man I really love the khartul Al. It's a shame, the cockpit sucks, it explodes at the lightest contact with a solid object, and can barely fit in the racing start gate upright without hitting the top and bottom.

>>157150456
rule of cool

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>>157150951

>>157151141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds

NO

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>>157151141

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>wave 18 solo
Half my weapons offline for most of it, thank fuck for asteroids

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Best ship Polaris coming through

>>157150456
its the most interesting design of all the ships, but i bet it doesnt even turn on a dime

>>157153525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Mgs_tUQ0k

Teller's new size comparison video is up

>>157154243
Polaris is sexy af, going to work toward one in the PU as my goalship

>>157150456
K-A is way too big, they could easily reduce the length by half and it would lose absolutely nothing of value

>>157154243
that Idris current yet? I know they were just upscaling the old model for the longest time

does CR have a realistic timeline for this game? Seems like he just tells people everything will be done soon and then waits until the deadline to show another demo and delay it indefinitely, repeat

>says 1 month/update is too short
>gives like the next 5 updates planned
>3 months/update or more is likely
>at least a year just to finish the most basic PU mechanics and a few more ships

>>157155921
That's just an upscaled old Idris, new idris has a sexy better shape to it and feels like a Star Destroyer

>>157156846
Definitely multiple years yet
Typical development time so far though

>>157156846

>does CR have a realistic timeline for this game?

There's no such thing as a realistic timeline when you're making a game that keeps increasing its scale. The entire purpose of going full crowdfunded is so he didn't have to answer to a publisher like Microsoft telling him to shit the game out by Christmas.

>>157156846

They've pretty much dropped any timelines for shit outside of rough ballparks for shit. After 3.0 comes out they're figuring they'll have each new update (3.1/3.2/etc) out every 2-3 months

Squadron 42 doesn't have a date anymore, and I bet it won't be out until the end of 2017 at best

How do I go into cruise in SC? (not short jumping)

'N' key toggles me between Normal and Precision, but how do I cruise?

>upgraded to a buccaneer
Im a fucking moron please inform me of how stupid I am spending money on a virtual good for a virtual game that doesnt even fucking exist yet

>>157157757
Not sure what your talking about. But if your talking about arena commander, you cant cruise in that game mode.

>>157157757
V

>>157157757
But in universe play, you have to now leave landing mode with the N or L key, i cant remember and to switch to cruise you have to be going faster than 50 I think.

>>157158089
in the alpha PU obviously

now that Chris Roberts started screaming "do it", do you think they will do it?

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HD 108060p new recording of the planetside demo is up on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdCFTF8j7y

Reminder that Sand Nomads are cultists and need to be erradicated. Talk to your local Leir III Anti-Nomad group today.

>Mark Hamill hasn't even tweeted anything about Citizencon

>>157158990
He gets fucked up by the nomads, holy shit.

Requesting kind Anon to make multible webms now we have HD footage

>>157158849
yeah definitely.

what they're going to do though...

>>157144241
Chris said it recently somewhere. He wants to have a FPS combat game mode you can jump right into when you start the game, without having to launch the PU, get in a ship, and travel to a station to enjoy. Plus when 3.0 comes out and death and losing your ship have consequences, people can play this game mode without having to worry about that.

>>157158990
kek the tire rolling about

>>157158990
Video is kill.

>>157159218
What do you mean death and losing your ship will have consequences in 3.0? Who said that?

>>157158990
I like the setting but I am not really interested in running around shooting on foot as a mission. And the population on these planets will probably be extremely spread out

but I wouldn't mind joining some autism org and doing 40 player nomad removal missions like in Arma. I hope they have collision with the trees and the AI has trouble seeing through trees and camouflage but that's probably asking too much

>>157159024

That's because Hamill knows better than to risk breaking the NDA he signed.

>>157159542

I want the potential to have my space farm attacked by some sand people

>>157159024
Was he there? Why would he?

>>157159218
>>157159395
Technically, death and loosing your ship in the PU has consequences now. You have to pay aUEC to respawn the ship, you have to waist time getting the ship and you have to spend time getting back to what you were doing.

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>>157159710
>space farm

dear lord this game is never getting finished

>>157159802

Can't wait for 3.3 in December of next year

have they shown any really weird alien plants yet?

what about what ice or water worlds will look like (in engine)

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>>157159996
>one year to 3.3

set your expectations a little lower, friend.
you'll be happier in the long run.

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>>157160436
tfw my spaceship will be ready by the time I retire

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>>157160559
at least I'm not flying a Crucible

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What ship do you think will be the fastest, Anons?

Banu Merchantman or the Polaris?

A blockade runner versus a fast attack corvette?

>>157162142
Polaris will definitely be the fastest

>>157159113
>>>/wsg/1343731

>>157162142
The Schnoz will be of fastest. The Poolaris the killy-est.

>>157162142
can we even compare them at this point? like, we can't even compare the MM and the Hull C and we know even less about the Polaris
also a MM will likely be loaded with cargo anyways

>>157162549
Nah Polaris is designed in lore after the Merchantman, which is a notorious black market trading vessel and blockade runner. Since it's made for speed and patroling, they most likely kept in mind the idea of hunting BMMs with it.

Polaris will be faster

>>157162609
>MM will likely be loaded with cargo anyways
To be fair the Polaris will probably be loaded down with an oversized fighter in the bay and spare torpedo reloads.

>>157157757
Enter SCM.
Go faster than like 50 m/s or something
Press the change flight mode button to enter Cruise.

>>157159395
>>157159789
Greater consequences in 3.0 than in 2.0. With the cargo system, you'll lose everything on board if your ship gets blown up. With the basics professions and mechanics in place people will be taking the PU more seriously, so there will be less griefers and people going to Kareah.

>>157159542
>I hope they have collision with the trees and the AI has trouble seeing through trees and camouflage but that's probably asking too much

stalker did this in 2007

>>157159551
What NDA? Are you retarded? He could've just posted that the Citizencon is about to start, or has happened yesterday or something. Do you think his role is still a secret or something?

>>157163625
More relevantly Crysis too lol

>>157163625
>Stalker did this

Did it? I could have sworn the AI had no issues shooting me through foliage.

>>157163787
why would mark hamill care about citizencon?

Unless chris chucked him a few K to do a webcam appearance or something.

"oh hey guys, yeah it's me, the guy in the game you're NOT seeing anything of tonight"

pfffft

>>157163797
Crysis was a multimillion dollar AAA western production

stalker was made by 50 drunk slavs paid with vodka, pickles and mayonez

>>157163914
yeah, in a basic way. foliage has a transparency value and if you're behind enough of it to overcome the AI's ability to see through that transparency value they won't see you

most of the time that feature don't work because of shitty mods

IMO it's best in CoC (the standalone mod) where you could low crouch in a bush at night and a bandit could walk right past you and keep going until he reaches the point where he last saw you and stares at the ground

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4LhUQPm7Dc
>hurr pre-rendered demo
>hurr 750$ jpeg elite dangerous looking ship
>what do you mean that the polaris can be flown by 14 players making it cost 54$ per player?
>hurr can't try all the ships because they cost a lot of money
>*flys all the ships on free flight events*
>*player steals his ship and trys it out for free*

>>157164092
You do realize he's friends with Chris and tweeted about SC several times without even being paid, right?

So does SC have any smuggling ships yet?

>>157165543
It doesn't even have cargo working yet

>>157162259
The bmm is like half the size. And the Polaris is weighed down by dozens of giant torpedos which cig thinks are the heavest things in all of creation judging by the speeds of all the other torpedo boats.

>>157165571
It doesn't even have a game yet

>>157165754
It doesn't even have an engine yet

>>157165943
No it has a pretty shit, buggy engine.

>>157165675
And the Polaris is patrolboat, it'll hunt them down. It's a BMM killer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdCFTF8j7yI
60 fps version released

>>157165754
>>157165943
>lying on an anonymous cambodian image board

>>157165543
It'll have cargo in 3.0, there's a ton of ships designed for smuggling already. Basically any cargo ship can hide illicit cargo in with it's regular cargo

>>157166372
actually more impressive than the stream

wasn't there a crashed hornet or something? what time? stream went down and I missed parts of it

>>157166504
11 minutes, crashed Cutlass

>>157166456
o7

>>157165543
the "smuggling ship" was supposed to be the Hull C (that is presumably more easily modified than other cargo ships) which eventually became a fully fledged freighter series
>>157166372
>not 4k
they had one job

>>157166372
dat music at 4 mins

>>157166372
>first time planets 2.0
>first mission
>first time a nigger
>steal the first bike you see
>kill random people

AYO
*smacks lips up*
YOU BE SAYIN
*collects warfare*
YOU BE SAYINNN
*sucker punches a nun*
WE WUZ SPACE AND KANGS

>>157166981
Stop this joke is dead as fuck

>>157166372
If we're talking fidelity...
I hate how the rover can be throttled from 0 to 100 in an instant without causing some kind of feedback from the tires.
The acceleration should be forcibly slowed if there's no wheel physics in play.

>>157166372
Nice, In this one he's pushing the vehicles harder. In the live demo you could tell he was taking the safe route.

>>157167335
and sometimes it looked like its hovering

>>157167805
the demo where they kept crashing the rover over and over again into the wall?

>>157168561
No the one from Sunday. This >>157166372 is a replay.

>>157167805
He still doesn't use the damn dragonfly AB though

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Someone did a little Q&A after Citizencon with Chris, minor SQ42 spoilers regarding the retribution regarding it's status in episode 1&2.

>>157169093
I wonder if anyone knows- the 28 chapters of S42- is that S42 Eps 1,2, and 3.
Or is that 28 chapters just in S42 Ep1 ?

>>157169692
probably just episode 1

Pretty interesting for gay players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29b0GKX6Sc

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>>157122481

Just another day..

>>157169093
>2020
>"we did it guys, we spawned an Idris without crashing the server"

Im worried so it will probably stay for ever a 24 man server

>>157169869
am I blind?
I can't see shit

>>157169093
>this gave me hope for the numerous multi crew ships I've pledged

Lmao fucking autist relieved he doesn't have to talk to people

>>157170676
he's calling the Hornet gay

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[Elite Dangerous]Yellow dots are stars visited by players. Someone used this to write his name on the galaxy map.

>>157170676
Look at the top right moon thing

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>>157170839
Did you just copy pasted a leddit thread title without bothering to correct?

Get the fuck out and uninstall yourself you pathethic piece of fuckster.

really sucks that cig can't make cryengine render camera view onto monitors for remote controlled turrets and such maybe they can cheat their way through this one by making your character have to wear a vr headset or something

>>157146446
Buddy has an RX 480 and does nothing but complain about how shit the AMD drivers are. Although I don't know how much of the issues are caused by him being a retard he also willingly installed Windows 10

Don't know about any issues the 1060 has. You're probably better off buying a used 970 or 980 though.

What's the most comfy ship SC has to offer? Mustang Beta?

>>157172010
constellation ez

>>157171463
>cig can't make cryengine render camera view onto monitors for remote controlled turrets

you don't want that anyway. Massive lag, low res, nasty performance hit etc. VR helmets seems like the best solution.

>>157172010
Fuck no you have to crouch to get in it and shit
Go look every flyable ship is free right now

Starfarer is pretty cozy with it's male and female toilets

>>157172010
Redeemer with it's oven, Coffee pot, and Aegis branded coffee cups

>>157172293
but they do 1 remote turret on the polaris

>>157146446
1060 is memerange
Rx480, one of the good ones like xfx GTR, not the shit meme gigabyte gaming one will have better longevity than a 1060 due to better architechture. Amd drivers being bad are a meme in the current year. I've used both amd and nvidia and the experience between the two was near identical.

>>157172010
Mustang Beta / Redeemer / Terrapin

>>157172496
It's going to be switching the view of the crew to the ship. Plsut they're R&Ding PIP

>>157146446
RX 480 for the DX12 longevity memes.

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This cheeky shit climbs your mountain, what do you do?

>>157166372
Really wish that this was posted on Vimeo so the bitrate would be higher and you could see all the graphical detail while there is movement on screen

>>157146446
don't listen to these shmucks.
there'll be better hardware out there when the game goes into beta in 2018.