/scg/edg/ #69 - Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous & Co.

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First for Polaris

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>>157030792
I'm gonna fuck that ship.

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Where is it, godamnit.

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>>157030830
Polaris is pure and not for lewd.

>>157023231
>>157030761

Rocket ships are supposed to look like phalluses, what better way to show man's mastery of the final frontier then to plow through it using hard metal member, hot from the fusion reactor at its heart. Own it.

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>>157030884
Nope. Polaris is a gaping fucking pussy that's got a few thousand dicks now in it from the funding timeline.

Despite this she remains a deeply classy looking lady.

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Now that the Gemini is availible again, I wonder if they're ever going to make some changes to it so it's not just a green Super Starfarer with ugly engines.

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>CIG finally shits out a hull that has clearly taken a couple of design cues from Elite
>Finest looking ship they've ever put out on a personal level of opinion
>mother
>fucking
>triangle

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>if I melt all my shit and CCU my Starfarer Gemini to a Polaris I can afford to unmelt my Cutlass Blue

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14th for best ship in 3.2

>>157031453
what ship is dis

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the stance is T H I C C

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>>157031341
I just hate the location of the bridge and shape of the cockpit glass, the defauly conniw nose looks like ass and they just about copy pasted it.

Mother
Fucking
Struts

In the middle of the viewing area is a shitty design both aesthetically and functionally. I ALWAYS want at the very least a large unobstructed forward face viewport. It can be angular and constructed of simple geometric shapes, but for fuck sake don't put a fuck sturt directly through the area I will spend most of the time looking at.

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>>157031725
Doesn't look so bad on the Polaris because of the size involved. It looks the same, but the scaling really falls in the Polaris' favor.

>>157031524
do you have a similar screencap of the new Aquila?

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>>157031725
Not everything can be a Reliant globe of magic space glass.
Deal with it.

>>157031995
Got those from http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/2634-citizencon-2016-star-citizen-roadmap-sandwurms-planets

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>>157031538
thicker

>>157031969
That's not a cockpit, it's a bridge or command deck.

Know the difference, it might save your life.

will there be AtV this week?

>>157032395
Blame CIG, that is literally the name of the .jpeg I scaled down and turned into a .png.

>>157032395
>might save your life.
Sounds hyperbolic but it's true. Calling it a cockpit is grounds for immediately being shot in the head by the captain, or if you're the captain, it's grounds for immediate mutiny by the entire crew.

>>157031507
The Terrapin my good anon.

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>>157032249
I'd be satisfied with something less wedge-y

>>157031995
>>157032270
Made my own

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>>157032558
i'm wondering if anything remotely resembling a security team would be necessary for keeping shitter pubbie conscripts in line during the downtime or anything

the vessel is large enough that it could be subject to a boarding action, even just for that it may be worth considering.

>>157032395
>>157032525
In case you don't believe me, go to the 2946 RSI Polaris page and look at the second picture:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/grf6vhap8njp7r/source/Polaris-Cockpit.jpg

>>157032735
There's a reason why they include 10 marines as potential crew members for the Polaris.

>>157032741
this is some clip/magazine tier shit
has CIG ever wrote clip anyways

>>157032889
Yes. They meant magazine. I hate it. I can't even hear "hair clip" these days without getting angry.

>>157032881
i'm wondering exactly how they'd deploy off of the ship for a spacewalk in any meaningful fashion, or if their presence would be more concerned with the well being of the vessel and self defense

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>>157033008
i don't understand these posts

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>>157033082

It's not hard to figure out Anon.

>>157033008
Calm down clip man, the world still turning.

Should i upgrade my avenger to a freelancer MIS? I really wish i knew what the weapons load out for it was.

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>>157032889
In any case I've updated the terminology. The Polaris deserves better than that kind of failure.

>>157033136
BECAUSE OF THE BRIDGE!!!

>>157033204
For what purpose?
The freelancer MIS will not likely be a good fighting ship on its own, the stock lancer is slow and not terribly durable. The mis will be more loaded down and full of more sensitive parts, it's a militia fire support boat, like an artillery piece, not a one size fits all combat ship.

>>157033061
Probably by walking out the door anon, lol what do you expect them to be launched by a trebuchet in the hangar bay?

>>157033339
Well I got a M50 and avenger currently. I like them both but they fulfill similar roles. I figured the Freelancer MIS would be a decent upgrade from the avenger, but ive barely flown it.

I just want a versatile larger ship that isn't ridiculously expensive. Also the MIS is "EXCLUSIVE" for whatever thats worth.

>>157031453
Was this mentioned in the stream or just wishful thinking?

>>157033579
>I just want a versatile larger ship that isn't ridiculously expensive.

So a Connie?

>>157033008
clipboard
>>157033590
technically both, since it'll still be a long time before 3.2

>>157033061
>>157033418
Walking out the door or riding in the drop ship/boarding boat you carry the the hangar.

I feel like people are not thinking broadly enough about what you could put int the hangar, and what you put in the hangar is likely to be your single biggest choice in specializing the Corvette for a given role.

Want to attack other capships: Gladiator.
Want to run Anti-Piracy Patrol: Hornet or Gladius.
Want to Interdict and Search Smugglers: Terrapin or maybe an Argo(or two)
Want to roam from system to system winning Races: 350R or M50
And so on.

Whats in the bay will likely define what the ships is good at.

>>157033579

Like >>157033657 says a Constellation Taurus is actually Cheaper than a freelancer MIS, is Easily flown by one person and carries and asston of cargo for its size.

>>157033339
Eh, the base Lancer is okay in a fight, but at equal skill levels a fighter will obviously beat it. The MIS will probably be a little slower with the extra equipment and missiles. Not sure if CIG is actually gonna make good on the "ordinance mishaps" in its original description, though.

>>157033579
If you want entry-level multicrew, maybe try out a Cutlass with REC. If you hate it, rent a Freelancer. See which one you like better in a fight before you buy real monies on anything. The MIS will be available til the 17th, so you have time.

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>>157032395
Fuck. I went to check the brochure. It is not free of the problem.

>>157033657
>>157033818
Yeah, im looking at Connies now. I am unsure what the differences between the multiple versions are.

Taurus seems to have a land rover
Andromeda seems to have a merlin
Arent we going to be able to change this kind of thing in the finished game with modules?

>>157033997
Oh yeah, I forgot all about rec. I should have plenty to test them out. Thanks for the suggestions.

>>157033997
I'm just saying its more packed with electronics and whatnot, more things to get damaged and need repair. Also its needs an additional crewman to make use of that fancy missile loading system.

My stance on the MIS is that while it looks versatile on paper I thinks it going to be terribly vulnerable on its own and should not be thought of as a multi role combat ship. It's like an AC-130 in that it packs a punch but does not want to fly alone in hostile skies. It's fire support, not front line and is sacrifices some of that multi-role capacity to hold those extra rockets.

50 rockets in the belly do you exactly no good if you are destroyed before you launch them.

>>157034248
Whoops, the aquilla has a rover not taurus.

>>157034248
Taurus has only cargo space.
Andromeda has the Merlin snub.
Aquila has the Ursa rover.

>>157034248
Andromeda has two turrets, shitloads of missiles and a merlin. It is the combat ship. $225

Aquila Has a Merlin and a Rover and its top turret replaced with a scanner array. It is an Exploration ship. $275

Taurus Has only one manned turret, more limited missile loadout and no extra vehicles, but it has by far the largest cargo capacity of the Connies. $150

The Phoenix has the Best turrets and shields of the connies, the same missiles as the Andromeda, and improved fighter(Archimedes) and Bling value. $600 and your firstborn childs soul.

All Connies Have a very powerful complment of 4xS5 Gimballed guns or 4xS6 fixed.

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Why are all turrets placed in the worst spots on a ship?

>fuck tail turrets, let's just stick the rear turret on top of the ship so they've only get 90 degrees of firing line backwards!

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>>157034592
Theres a second automated(remote) turret on the bottom-ass.

>>157034309
I could see that. I really wish we had more to go on for its statistics beside over 2-year old ship matrix data and extrapolated ideas based on the old CGBot model.

As far as advanced electronics, its (supposedly) got a more advanced power supply, upgraded main thrusters, and possibly similar sensor upgrades as the DUR based on the front-domes they share. The internal missile magazine is the one I worry about, even though Constellations have internal pods. Connie missiles don't have to be moved to fire (the pods/tubes just deploy), while the MIS has to slide ordinance to the top of the ship, with more chances for fuck ups.

>>157034667
So you can get two guns on target rather than four if they merged the two turrets onto the tail.

This just seems like a serious case of form over function that CIG aren't realizing is actually going to heavily dictate how effective those turrets are. For such a large ship, they should have followed the design procedure set out by most WW2 bombers - tail, belly, top, waist and chin turrets cover almost every angle of attack with at least TWO turrets being able to fire at the approaching target. Turret size isn't going to matter fuck all if you can't actually shoot at the enemy coming towards you.

>>157034879
The domes on the DUR and MIS are the improved shield generators, they both used the Exact same improved shield.

How was DS's breakdown? Did he commit suicide yet?

>>157035018
Its not a aerial bomber, it's a Fast attack sub capitol ship, with the vast bulk of its firepower focused forward.

I'm not trying to say you're wrong neccesarily, I'm just saying its neither a bomber nor an aircraft, the same rules don't apply the solution to having a fighter/s behind you will be to decouple, spin the ship and aim 5 turrets, two missile pods and a fighter at it.

Its really worth pointing out that this isn't a lumbering beast of a cap ship, It's a heavy attack craft. It will probably be at least as nimble as the starfarer, and the Starfarer in experienced hands can just about keeps its nose guns on a fighter while decoupled.

>>157035369
If Squadron 42 had been shown, he would've. As it stands he can weasel out of things.

>>157035369
Wasn't he supposed to be evicted from his condo?


If CIG did prerecorded footage instead of live demos in the future would you care?

>>157035435
>Its not a aerial bomber, it's a Fast attack sub capitol ship
Yeah, that doesn't change shit. Even if it could run rings around light fighters, you're still going to be better off having less turrets with more guns covering a wider area. It's still going to have the smaller, nimbler fighters running rings around it, meaning in those applications it's turret firepower is going to be mostly defensive. Meaning you're going to want your turrets in a position where you can use them to the fullest effect, not in places where you can only get one of them on target. As it is, it has a LOT of dual turrets that could be condensed into one and moved into a better position to cover the same angles more effectively.


Seriously, it's turrets are just dumb.

>>157035369
leddit saved him https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/56pfe9/you_guys_are_going_to_hate_me_but_citizencon/

Just have the Terrapin and Mustang ATM, now that Citcon sale is here what's a good ship to CCU Argo into? I'm torn between dogfighting and trading. Super Hornet felt better in my hands than a Sabre, and I hate the look of the Freelancers.

One of the things I actually really enjoyed from last night's stream was the "catastrophic damage" to the Idris that they showcased.

In place of having cap ships just explode, if they instead turned into a derelict with shattered corridors and all the damage showcased that would be a far more interesting approach.

That way if you managed to defeat a capship by sheer firepower, you can then board and mop up the survivors, if any.
Definitely think that would be a lot more interesting gameplay wise than the entire thing just suddenly going boom like they've done with all the other multi-crew ships.

>>157036665
>Super Hornet felt better in my hands than a Sabre

Don't buy ships based on anything flight model based. There's a major rework in the works, remember.

>>157036750
That was a Javelin, not an Idris. But yea they said from the beginning the critical core failure and actual destruction of cap ships would be rare, and most often it would just be a matter of crippling damage being dealt to engines, thrusters shielding and weapons.

>>157036665
Save your money.

>>157037007

Shit really? Didn't expect them to have the Javelin in such a state of development.

Good to know that's the route they're taking though.

>>157037145
Figures that they'd want the UEE naval ships all ready for SQ42, so the Javelin was probably fast-tracked.

>>157035369
Why would DS have had a breakdown?

Citcon was extremely disappointing, and showed basically nothing. The ONLY good thing that came out of it was that the "leaks" that were obviously fake turned out to be fake.

>>157037940
Oh, and forgot to mention;

DS's main argument to all the planetside stuff was that it was all scripted and would never be in the game.

Citcon's planetside "demo" was heavily scripted. Pretty much the worst thing they could have possibly done if they wanted to shut that down.

stopped playing elite after the ship transfer timer poll
is the game good now?

>>157038025
>if they wanted to shut that down.

I think at this point they're just ignoring him. Actively engaging or altering a demo to prove DS wrong would REALLY be the worst possible thing they could have done - you don't feed the trolls, we all know that.

>>157038138
Don't have to engage, recognise or otherwise interact with DS.

Just have to not put shit in the planetside demo that was clearly just a one-time thing. I dislike that shit anyway, find it disingenuous and boring.

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>>157038025
I doubt anyone at CIG takes Smart seriously. The largest letdown was the absence of Squadron42 and the Ai missing in the planetside demo. I was also hoping the planetside LOD would be better but it was running at a great framerate.


>>157038209
Are you talking about the worm?


Still hoping that SQ42 is a Q1 2017 release. Sometimes things just don't come together tell the last minute.

>>157038342
The worm was obviously the biggest offender.

But there was also the sandstorm, little details like the roofing panels getting ripped off.

>>157038342
>but it was running at a great framerate

The key to this is less optimisation and more the 10-20ms.

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H-hey guys, unfortunately our Squadron 42 demo didn't meet our high standards in time for Citizen Con. But we hope our scripted, glitchy sandworm made up for it!

>>157038118
bump
just yes or no
to me it seems you could just delete /edg/ from the OP and leave it dead as it was

>>157038476
I liked the part where the sand person missed every single shot from 25 ft away

>>157038680
you could just delete /edg/ from the OP and nobody would notice

So, 2.6 when?

>>157039365
Hopefully this month

>>157039365
two weeks

why didn't they at least show a live demo of star marine? That would have been cooler than spacebook

Even tho citcon was a letdown aside from planets v2, sc is still the game im mostly looking forward to. How sad is that

>>157039587
live your truth

>>157039580
Judging by the hour long delay for the show to start, I'm willing to wager something fucked up there and they decided to cut it.

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>still no female model

They fucked up. How long does it take to slap some tits on the male model, shrink the face a bit and call it a day?

>No Star Marine
Fucked up

>No 2.6
Fucked up again

>Dragonfly and Broken Javelin
Thanks for showing us ships we can't use.

>Planetside shenanigans
Thanks for showing us shit we can't do.

>Rock placement
Yeah I did that on X-Box in Far Cry: Predator like 10 years ago. Suck my dick.

>Starbook
Actually this looks good, especially if VOIP isn't shitty. Interface looks okay.

is sq42 prologue still coming out this year or did they officially push it to q1 2017? i dont have time to watch the whole stream from before

>>157039917
>Starbook looks okay

>>157038794
>I liked the part where the sand person missed every single shot from 25 ft away

AI isn't done yet which is why

>>157040040
Roberts said 2017 during the stream. "Something something looks like not this year". I don't have a timestamp or anything but the crowd essentially growned

>>157039580
>why didn't they at least show a live demo of star marine?

i kinda get annoyed when people ask about starm arine

>>157040159
ah, ty bro

bummer, but not unexpected

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>pirates attack
>you and buddies crash land on planet
>Mission: SURVIVE!
>saw settles on the other side of the planet on the way down
>decide to trek there
>new crew member can't take it and suicides to get off the planet
>you and buddy look at each other and mutter "Casual." and continue on
>you're sporting a cybernetic arm, leg and eyes from your time in the org wars, you can't afford to die here
>the journey begins

A man can dream. I don't care if we have to stay constantly logged on for weeks. No ones willing to work for anything anymore.

>>157040167
Because of your autism?

>>157039917
>still no female model

Probably going to be released with 3.0 i'd imagine. 3.0 is probably going to be the most playable version of the game as a game so far and a lot of new people are going to get in on it and stream it and do let's plays and stuff so they'll throw in the females then.

>>157040127
It looks a lot like Discord which I already use. If it's as function as that but also integrated into the game itself then I'm cool with it. Cutting out the middle man.

I'd rather not use 3rd party software for basic game functionality.

>>157040256
>It looks a lot like Discord which I already use.

Agreed, which is why I'll still be using Discord. Its a total waste of time and backer money.

>>157040202
Appart from all this daydreaming, I'm really curious about how crash landings will work, especially with big ships like a Polaris or an Idris.

>>157040242
no because i am chris roberts and i literally get annoyed when people ask where it is

you already have fps and boarding in the game now, star marine was just a code phrase for the fps test mode, but we leapfrogged ourselves and got fps in early

also, we don't own the trademark to star marine

>>157040316
a "yes" would have been faster, anon

>>157040307
I'm hoping planets will have gravity wells you can get pulled into. Maybe if engines are shot and you get pulled in you hit the anti grav thrusters and pray the ship holds together when you hit dirt. I dunno, I havn't played the game yet, just excited.

I'm super interested about water physics and how a water landing would be. Could a ship go under water and survive? Would it flood or would the ships oxygen systems allow you to survive?

Water stuff could be cool if they pay attention to it. Better be Bebop fishing boats.

>>157040381
christ robets here, all he said is true, we dont own the trademark sorry boy

>>157040254
>3.0 is probably going to be the most playable version of the game as a game so far and a lot of new people are going to get in on it

How do you figure? The "game" gets buggier with every iteration. Also lol if you think anybody new is ever buying into this. SC is kept afloat by a core of ~2,000 megawhales who are too deep into autism, sunk cost fallacy, and abject sadbrains to bail out, so they keep doubling down. Look at the viewership numbers for streams, or clicks on INN articles--nobody cares about SC. the supposed 1.5 million citizen headcount is based on total accounts on the website, and we already know many people have multiple accounts, and that number certainly includes accounts that never bought anything as well as accounts that got refunded. The number of people playing is staggeringly low, and the only thing that could change that--actual content--seems to be ever further from release.

>>157040381
do you seriously not remember when Chris got on camera earlier this year and said "I kinda get annoyed when people ask me where Star MArine is" ??

>>157040479
>How do you figure? The "game" gets buggier with every iteration.

Everyone that has played the game knows that to be bullshit anon, so TL;DR on your little tirade.

>>157040479
>why arent millions of people playing an alpha??

>>157040417

Hopefully if they take that route they'll sort out
a) the collision detection so that a single touch doesn't register as a catastrophic explosion for ships
b) toughen the ships so they can take a few physical bumps before exploding to allow the likes of a fighter or whatever to slide along the ground as it crash lands

>>157040479
I've talked to a lot of people who havn't bought the game yet but are interested. They all say the same thing. Waiting on more content like planets and more jobs etc. I feel like 3.0, in my opinion will give a lot of people more to chew on and a lot more people will come into the game.

>>157040567
ahahahahahaha

welp, remain in denial. you could still get a refund like i did, but that window is rapidly closing

you deserve star citizen. you deserve it.

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Remember making your own, custom, Tony Hawk levels?

That's literally what game development has devolved to, and they're showing it off like 'LOOK WHAT I CAN DO''

Yeah buddy, good for you. It's a fucking joke.

>>157040610
how did you get a refound? did u just ask nicely and they were like here have ur money back?

>>157040576
Protip: It will never be more than a broken alpha.

>>157040640
yep. they refused at first but i persisted and they gave in

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/

>>157040610
Okay, friend.

You're refunded, yet still posting here. Really seems like you escaped.

But no, its not buggier with every iteration. First released of AC were so crash-happy you would rarely get 10 minutes of a game.

>>157040479
>the "game" gets buggier with every iteration

Stopped reading there, you clearly haven't played it

>>157040578
I'm hoping they toughen up ships or something because as it is now there's no damaged state where the ship is crippled and just a big chunk of barely functional metal. It's functioning then exploded basically.

If they sort that out then we might get crash landings where the ships only breaks apart in places but could hold together if the pilot lands right.

>>157040643
>it will never be more than jpegs
>it will never be more than stationary ships in hangar
>it will never be more than single payer against bots
>it will never be more than a small pu

whats next annon?

>>157040594
Show them today's CitCon and save them from SC forever.

>>157040618
Ok Derek get some sleep you got a court case comin up about how you're too broke to afford your apartment.

>>157040683
>Stopped reading there, you clearly haven't played it

I certainly crash and T-pose more now than in the original baby PU, and the juddering through walls and cklipping out of my Freelancer happens just about as frequently.

>>157040719
DayZ still has a dedicated following, i'm sure this alpha footage won't deter people who are interested.

>>157040713
I don't know who said they things but it wasn't me. I wanted a game, I backed a game. I didn't get a game.

>>157040672
how long did you have to beg? I still believe we will get a game, but it never hurts to be prepared lol

>>157040752
>I certainly crash and T-pose more now than in the original baby PU

lmao the fuck are you talking about, its WAY more stable than original release of the PU.

>>157040779

>You back a game development

>the game is being developed

>evidence is shown of this at every Gamescom, Citizencon, "Around the Verse", "Reverse the Verse" and all the other community engagement things

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>>157040779
>I put money into da game why no game pop out immediately.

Welcome to the real world. Rome wasn't built in a day kid.

>>157040779
shit is going to take a while. i backed just recently and i was fully aware i was not going to see a finished or even polished product for at least 2-3 years.
they are not making pancakes, anon. a project of that scope takes time, otherwise someone else would have already done it

>>157040752
>>157040824

Aye original PU was utterly horrendous. It's smoother and stable now and my random moments of dying while trying to move about my ship are definitely a lot rarer now.

>>157040856
>>157040870
I think most people are used to these kickstarters shitting out a piece of shit immediately and aren't used to real professional development times.

>>157040919
>professional

ERIC "WINGMAN" PETERSON HERE FOR ANOTHER INSTALLMENT OF........WINGMANS NUTS.

>>157040919
>I think most people are used to these kickstarters shitting out a piece of shit immediately

I don't know what Kickstarter people have backed but the ones I have, have taken anywhere from 3 to 4 years to release.

So I don't understand what the fuss is all about.

>>157040752
>I certainly crash and T-pose more now than in the original baby PU

NO you don't and if you think you do, you didnt play the original baby PU.

Back then playtime was measure in minutes before crash. I log on now and can cruise around for literally hours without breaking anything. There's not a hell of a lot to do, sure, but it is WAY more stable than it was a year or two years ago.

>>157040989
He meant professional as in actually have proper pipelines and qualifications.

Instead of someone copying and pasting mechanics into Unity.

>>157040989
You can be socially inept and still be good at your job. Just look coders or compuer engineers. A lot of them are cringeworthy but they get shit done.

>>157041029
The kickstarters you back are way more simple than star citizen. You cant compare pillars of eternity or even elite dangerous to star citizen.

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>>157035824
>it's turrets are just dumb
>it is turrets are just dumb
Maybe you aren't the right person to be calling anything dumb.

>>157041107
why cant you compare them

So no Free Fly week this week? Or are they gonna announce it today or tomorrow on their website?

>>157041107
My point was that they all take at least 3-4 years so I don't understand why everyone is losing their shit that SC has been in development for 4.

>>157041279
Free Fly is looking doubtful maby when 2.6 hits.

>>157041324
because after 4 years its not anywhere near complete?
you basically describd the problem yourself

>>157041241
Pillars of eternity is a FAR simpler game(top dowm view, lower quaty grphics, no physics needed, etc)
Elite dangerous is what star citizen would be if rsi hafassed it and released it in 4 years(no fps, no planetary landing and walking, ships all look sameish and only like 3 professions, physics is ass, etc)
By the way, i am not hating on these games but they do not compare to star citizen in terms of complexity and scope.

>>157041372
>because after 4 years its not anywhere near complete?

Yes, and?

>>157041324
It's less about it being 4 years in development and more about how far they got in those 4 years

>>157041372

Is the scale of this game similar to any you've played before?

>>157041452
I think they got pretty damn far in 4 years since they started with no money, no staff and no offices.

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>>157041372

Hey look a reason to post this.

>>157041372
How long would it take you and your team to make something no one else had done before?
I was critizicing sc and their presentation during the last thread. Frankly i found it boring and dissapointing but even i realize making a game of this magnitude(graphics are fantastic, attention to detail is one of the best and size is literally stellar) takes a huge and possibly unknown ammount of time.

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>>157040779
>>157040856
>>157040870
Star Citizen is not "A game" anymore, it hasnt been for years. It is "The most ambitious video game that has ever been developed" by what is at this point a very, very wide margin. The only thing I can think of that even sort of compares is Darkfall, and thats a really weak second place.

Your average tripe A big frnachise title takes 5 years of dev time to create from inception to release, and thats usually using pre-existing tools and a pre-existing studio. Star Citizen in Four years into development now, and the first year was basically spent entirely on building studios and finding talent. Much of the first and second years work had to be scrapped or entirely rebuilt. With the reality of the games development as context, Star Citizen is advancing very very rapidly. It is being developed at a MUCH faster pace than many other games, its just that the scope of the project is so massive that the sort of progress you can actually see seems slow.

They have spent basically the last three years inventing and streamlining art and content pipeliones, overhauling and rebuilding the engine from the ground up to meet their needs(which they would have had to do with any engine) and making the dev tools specifically to work with that new custom engine.

What we have started to see in the last two years and the last six months in particular is the fruits of that earlier, "boring" dry labor. They spent a year making a planet generator that allows then to make a planet in a few hours, now they will use that tool to make 400 planets in a year. Apply that same idea to pretty much every other part of the game. and you can begin to understand why some of us have no doubts about the course of the project. Why some of use set down 600 bucks today, because I have been watching this long enough to understand how all the pieces fit together, I can see the light at the end of the long tunnel. It's still a ways off in fact, but I know its there.

>>157041641
Can't wait for all the atmosphere tech to come online

>>157041574
Literally means nothing. Each of their studios were ambitious for their own individual standards. Star citizen is ambitious in a global scale and pushing the limit further than any other game has done before. Hell, all of those games are basically new wows(with the exception of elite)

>>157041726
Those German wizards amaze me. They must have sold their souls to the devil for that shit.

>>157041726
>>157041834

It was actually astounding. Space Engineers blew my mind with their planetary tech but this is on a whole other level.

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>>157041729
>Everquest
>new WoW

>>157041726
>>157041834
Yeah the opening of the Frankfurt office and the acquisition of all the Crytek inside knowledge and experience that came with it has really changed the definition of what is possible in Cry/Starengine.

I just hope they make the Dragonfly a lot faster so I can zip around on planets listening to some eurobeat

That whole discussion sounds like copy pasted straight from a press release.

>>157041979
Indeed, those fucking Nazi's can code. Their 50 man crew has basically BTFO the LA and Austin studios.

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>>157042175
The Dragonfly and Ursa have become sleeper hits for me.

I never took into account planetside stuff until recently but now the idea of planetary vehicles intrigues the shit out of me. I feel like Dragonflies, Greycats, Ursas and Argos will be great on planets and settlements. Hopefully we get more ground based vehicles.

>tfw terrorizing farms in a giant mining spider robot

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Not to get in the way of this riveting discussion or anything but I was watching the ass end of the recorded twitch stream and wondering something

Is it a good idea to just let people Quantum travel from one planet's atmosphere to another? Seems like the sort of thing that can be abused to lead to some unintended shit.

>>157042521

Can you give an example of the unintended shit?

I could imagine it being used for a handy quick escape from a fire fight, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

>>157042362
I want an amphibian vehicle! Maybe some sort of hovercraft. If it could go underwater, that'd be fantastic.

>>157042521
>>157042616
I don't think you'll be able to QD out of atmo. It was just for the demo's sake, just as the character and ships were in godmode.

>>157042717

Aye I'd imagine you're right, I could see it working that you could QD to those little orbital rings to begin descent yourself from there.

>>157042616
>Can you give an example of the unintended shit?

Well ramming into everyone jumps to the top of mind, so is say avoiding defenses.

>>157042924

I'd imagine accidentally QDing into someone in atmo would take a huge amount of luck though.

In terms of avoiding defenses, I'm sure they could have contingencies if they don't want you to be able to do that, like the planet is marked for a certain level of security so that upon approaching in Quantum you are automatically knocked out of it by Quantum Interdiction ships.

>>157043023
You bring up a good point because a QJ out of atmo should use more fuel due to gravity (assuming it's possible).

But I agree with previous anon who said it was likely just for the demo.
>hey look it's not just a sprite!

Yeah okay so patch it in.

It'd be cool if settlements could create some sort of new player spawn for new players. So maybe welcoming settlements can allow players to be "born" into their settlement to get started? For example if we had a planet 4chan.

I feel like it would be exploitable though. Maybe there could be a password system? Spawn point whitelisting?

>>157043926

I'd imagine it would work in a similar way to World of Warcraft's "hearthstone" system where you visit a settlement to get the option to set it as a spawn point.
If they even bother to allow spawning outside of ships and pre-designated space stations/city hubs.

>>157044220
I hope they have something. I don't want to settle a planet, log off and fly back from a space station every time.

And what if I land on a planet to hide out or something? Am I going to have to stay logged in the whole time or can I log off and back in?

For instance say I land my Freelancer on a planet to hide from some players on my ass and decide to camp out for a couple of days. Couldn't I log out using the beds in the Freelancer and log back in on the planet in the spot I left? Or would it log me back in in space?

Some sort of camping equipment would be handy too.

>>157044432

this is why we have the sleeping mechanic. You sleep in a bed to log off correctly.

The part where Sandy cried was really cute desu

She's very clearly invested in the community and the game. She has a lot of pressure too, its literally her husband's game. Its also her game too, if you think of it like that.

>>157044432

Those are good questions. I remember they said that ships logged out in space can be auto-piloted to the nearest station but I believe that was in relation to when your crew mates are trapped and you've logged off.
Hopefully the system of ships with beds acting as mobile spawns will enable you to do just what you described. Would vastly benefit the gameplay to the point where not allowing it is just pointless.

>>157044520
on top of that dsmart wants to grab her pussy

>>157044432
>>157044516

I read somewhere that the ship stays in instance for a while, disappears, then plugs you back in the same place after you log back in.

>>157044520
She also looked like she was wearing a potato sack. I'm not a woman, but when in doubt, wear the little black one.

Just bought Elite a few hours ago and I'm trying to do the training missions in Elite before I start the game, but this incursion mission is wrecking my shit. How do I get good? I think I'm doing combat wrong because it's like those knights that run at each other with lances then turn around and do it again, except it's more like big dizzy circling trying to get the enemy in the FOV. Some of the later ships out maneuver me so by the time I can start to target them, they've already been shooting at me for a second or two and then they're past and behind me again. My weapon modules get damaged and then I can't do much. The tutorials aren't great either.

Seems like a cool game though.

>>157044898
just refund it and buy SC instead

In the final game will we be able to loot enemies like the sand people and wear their clothes?

>>157044898
Incursion and Incursion Advanced are seriously tough to beat. I've been playing for a bit, and nothing in the actual game is as tough as wave after wave of unrelenting nonsense that is Incursion.

>>157042175
Wear their clothes who knows but there should be desert outfits or ruggid space suits you can wear. Looting enemy corpses is a maby

>>157041574
Elite Dangerous started development in 2012.

>>157045910

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/06/elite_dangerous_on_kickstarter/

>Braben also reveals that Frontier has tried to get the game up over the years, but has kept it on the back-burner where it “... has been worked upon by a small team as a ‘skunk-works’ activity in the background as availability permits” between paid gigs.

I WANT TO BE A SPACE NOMAD

>>157047334
Will we be able to get desert survival/scav armor like they wear?

Well I'm not giving CIG any money until I see some sq42 combat gameplay.

>>157047509
How much more?

The SQ42 level demo isn't long from now

>>157047576
Mild $65, but that would be double my current pledge.

I was ready to throw cash at them before the presentation, assuming it would have what chris said it would have mere weeks ago.

Now I'm disappointed with them and feel they don't deserve to be rewarded for this bullshit

>>157047678
the demo will probably show up in the november or december streams. apparently there were just some animation and polish issues holding it back. I'm disappointed as well but I guess they wanted to present something that was totally 'finished'.

>>157047678
Just wait. This is literally the CIG Doctrine of "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad". Hold onto your money for now, but have faith that when it is shown it'll be fantastic.

Also if you're planning on spending thatm oney as an upgrade, get a couple $0 ccus from a always available ship if you're considering picking up one of the limited Military ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHf7LOk7EJo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TlLNCyVudc

>>157048132
I have a mancrush on Sean Tracy.

I would be his naked male model any day of the week.

>>157047929
With AI being the big technical blocker, this could easily be a SM grade delay (and *that* isn't even show ready still)

>>157048218
I really like him. He's knowledgeable, passionate, and honest.
Chris is too dramatic.

>>157038414
It's definitely not going to be what we see in the final game, but I'm hoping this at least means they're looking into creating hostile, gigantic wildlife that we can hunt for sport. I want to be a literal big game hunter.

As far as the other stuff, I can see the storm being procedural and dangerous(eventually), the roof blowing away though is never going to be there.

WIll E:D ever get spacelegs?

>>157048756
it would be pretty simple to have the metal panels respawn after a while

>>157049010
I don't know if FTroop can do it to be honest, I feel like in-engine the ships are only a few metres long but are written in-lore to be much bigger. So if they add spacelegs it won't work because everyone will be like a foot tall

Man you fucking plebs will bitch about anything,
I'm not even mad.

>>157049102
>>157048756

Yeah the persistence side could allow for the set-piece to reset once there's no players around.

>>157047435
You'll be able to loot it off thier bodies as long as you don't destroy it in the process of killing them.

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>>157048756
Monster Hunter style, take quests from star system central job board to hunt down threatening wildlife. Ursas and dragonflies on the ground providing light fire / rapid transport, maybe some new ground vehicles that can mount harpoons to pin them down. Something like the Freelancer in the sky tracking with radar and aerial support. Shoot at the prey until it retreats into a cave where vehicles can't follow you, head in with guns / grenade launchers or special hunting equipment. Gut your game, send off tissue samples to research stations for cash, make trophies out of heads, etc.

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>>157049424
I'm hyped for hunting the SC equivalent of pic related.

And dropping a bunch into a hostile base and fucking off.

Someone give me the bullet points of the event, as far as I can see there's a new concept ship, and that's it?

>>157049787
Confirmed:
>Desert nomads
>Sand worms
>Crysis level worlds

>>157049787
Star citizen is getting it's own discord clone that will work in and out of game will also work for parties. They showed off the planet v2 tech which included different biomes

>>157049106
>the scale myth
That’s not how it works. Not in Star Citizen, not in Elite. It’s all about the relative scale and if the game can handle that with sufficient accuracy, not about hard numbers.

The SRV works just fine, so spacelegs would too, at least on that front. Filling the ships and stations with content and making them look nice is a different challenge. The latter being one they’ll most likely master, the former being one they’ll utterly fail at.

>>157040618
I remember, also I remember Empire Earth Editor :^) the same only worse grafic(atleast it doesent need a fucking nasa pc)

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>>157049857
>>157049787

Also basically every ship confirmed for ready in next 4 updates

>>157049787

>Trailer for military ship packs sale
>Facebook/Discord for Star Citizen both in and out of game confirmed
>Big long video of the planetside tech including a small mission on the planet involving the ruins of a Javelin carrier and a Dune sandworm
>Constellation Aquila has been updated and Ursa Rover showcased
>Brief glimpse of the Idris at the end of another planet tech video

Citcon made me okay with dropping any semblance of hope for this game for quite a few months.

>>157049864
Everyone is so excited about positional VoIP and how they'll be able to listen in on conversations / hear people talking as they fight in FPS.

But thats retarded. Nobody is going to use it for that.

If it forces you to have your voice present in the world, its never going to get used for anything serious because why risk it? If it doesn't force you, nobody is going to decide to switch it on to have that super sekret conversation about the vault key code.

Its fucking retarded cultist behaviour.

>>157049962
There'll probably be smaller updates in between those ones though.

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>>157049787
There were like 2 hours of cringeworthy "pre-show", including recaps, community feels bullshit and Turbulent's DiscordxFacebook abortion. No S42 this year, no news on Star Marine/AC/2.6 in general. We got this roadmap. More planetary stuff. Looked pretty neat, but nowhere near the "Crysis level fidelity" CR kept going on about. No new gameplay was shown.

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>>157050059
Those are called patches.

>Terrapin
>RECLAIMER

>>157050034

If people are playing alone they'll probably use it when playing with random people they've teamed up with. Certainly happens in plenty of other games like that.

>>157049978
>>157049857
>>157049864
>planet stuff

I honestly don't care all that much about planets. It's nice that they have it but I'll really only be going to a planet for cargo pick up and drop off.

>Constellation is updated
>Again
Jesus Christ, work on something else.

>>157050076
>No s42
wasn't that promised at the last show?

>no news of SM 2.6
diodn't they say last show that this one would be more about non-PU stuff?

>>157050156
If I'm doing anything important I'd rather send them a discord link.

>>157050189

>Again
Nah not the Andromeda, this is the Aquila. It's flight ready and you can store weapons and armour in the lockers on it. Also carries the Ursa Rover which actually works at least.

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>>157049962
>farming

ENDEAVOR WHEN?

>>157050343
Endeavor isn't on the pipeline. Farming will be planetside and COMFY

just woke up
came to say that the best ship is wronge xd and who disagrees is literally retarded

>>157050076

Did they just forget about the buccaneer

>>157050189
Yes, they wanted to show a S42 mission, but Chris' autism wouldn't allow him to show something that's not 100% up to his standards and they cancelled it last minute, which resulted in tons of improvised/artificially stretched filler concent. Sadly that didn't include anything meaningful.

Earlier I read a comment on reddit where some guy claimed to have talked to Erin after the presentation and according to him the mission was basically perfect, but the only thing that it needed was smoother animations at some points.

>>157050463
Buccaneer is much closer than 3.1, they're doing the Cutlass variants to "finish off the drake line" according to Chris during the stream

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>>157050402
Hell yeah. Or a struggle fending off Mad Max biker pirates and animals.

I hope we get livestock. Horses would be rad but i'm starting to go overboard.

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Senpai I need advice. I have 275$ more in store credits and have pic related. Im bad at combat.

>ccu Carrack to Endeavor and get Telescope/Science/Hangar

or

>ccu Dragonfly to Banu Jewman

or something else? Parking Endeavor to the border of safezone, finding shit via telescope and checkin it with the Terrapin at Hangar sounds really comfy, along with the 5k cargo..Earnin the other pods ingame seems very versatile.

But fuck senpai, Endeavor is not even in the pipeline, and Jewman supposedly gonna kick up in price, and will be hard to get ingame. :(

WHAT DO?

>>157050463
They really need to get the other ships finished that have been sitting on the shelf since the start of fundraising.

Has Smart said anything worth chuckling at regarding citcon?

>>157050572
>raise livestock
>get too close
>can't bare to sell them off for meat now

With the way they plan on systems and planets being content full and all I wonder how long someone as autistic as me could spend on a single planet without leaving. Depending on what's there or who settles it every day could be an adventure.

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>>157050501
>yfw Roberts announces that the game is almost completely ready, it will release in two months.
>a week before release he announces that it's just not to the quality he wants so he scrapped it and it now starting over.

>>157050582
CCU carrack to Polaris

>>157050665
Can't chuckle at a man proven right

>>157050752
fuck of ben, da fuck am i gonna do with a polaris if Im bad at combat.

>>157050610
Didn't really look like Hamill imo

>>157050807
Sit in the captains seat and order everyone else around

>>157050582
God I want that Exploration pack!

>>157044520
>getting baited by women tears

fucking faggy white knights, She is a woman and knows how to use her weapons. Robert that poor soul

>>157032735
this goes for literally any ship

if they have ANY decency or understanding of what random pubs can potentially do to waste your time and cost you money, even in the current PU, they'll add some form of fucking party/crew system that locks the ship and notifies of any forced entries. stealing a ship should require some serious hacking or hull breaching, instead of "lol i jumped in the back when you were leaving port and now own your polaris"

>>157051004
>"lol i jumped in the back when you were leaving port and now own your polaris"

If you were the only one in it then you fucking deserve to lose it

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>>157031538

>>157051091
I wonder if among the NPCs we can hire, we'll find security guards?

>>157050076
nigger, where is the cutlass black

>>157042873
you could technically QD to the planet manually without any jump points if youre pro as fuck, otherwise there will be QD stations and the equivalent of highway weigh stations for space truckers in orbit

so now that they finished the basic tech in 2016, all they have to do is make hundreds of handcrafted planets, 1000s of space stations and satellites and places of interest, dozens more ships, and 100s of NPCs and different kinds of missions with voice acting

will they do it?

>>157050582
>Parking Endeavor to the border of safezone
>safezone

I fucking swear, when I will see shit like this a I will fucking quantum jump into your ship and crash everything with no suvivors.

>>157051091
that's part fo what i mean, but i find it hard to believe that your average spaceship in 2946 is easier to joyride than my car parked outside

if you leave a port alone in a polaris or park any of your ships in a conspicuous spot without someone watching it, youre insane, but it still shouldnt be so simple as the guy opening the door.

>>157040779
>>157040713
he'll never get a second term

>Terrapin
>Freelancer MIS
>Dragonfly
How bad is this combo?

>>157050858
>order everyone
implying its going to work in a game.
The last game where this almost worked good was BF2

>>157051635
>no carrack
very bad

>>157049914
Given the rate of content that FD has been (not) pushing stuff out, I jut can't imagine the doing ship interiors for all the ships (they couldn't even be bothered to make new cockpits for some ships), or station interiors. Plus they'd need people to populate them and since the only characters that we have are still images it seems rather forlorn to think that FD could ever pull it off.

>>157051635
>>Terrapin
useless piece of shit, whats wrong with you people?
>>Freelancer MIS
Normal Freelancer is perfect and enough to do everything
>>Dragonfly
steal it from some sand niggers
>How bad is this combo?

shit

>>157042362
>terrorizing farms in a dragonfly
>listening to anything but this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXRJWhA777o

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>>157051816
>Terrapin
>useless

DELETE THIS

I think it's cool how they will make detailed alien planets, but I'm not really sold on doing missions on planet surfaces. What's the point running around and shooting some stupid nomads when you could literally have your friend piloting a destroyer show up and shoot them? They'd have to have all sorts of anti air and missile defense to make it interesting at all imo.

>>157052009
i'm guessing most missions will end up having to infiltrate a building or something of the sort, no ship to back you up.

>>157052009
What if the planet has a shit ton of AA everywhere

>>157052009
>accept mission to kill some sandniggers
>reward is 100 Rec
>show up with destroyer
>annhilate sand people
>refilling, refueling, rearming costs you 10000 Rec
>great success

>>157052009
>guys while leveling up this NPC told me to go kill 15 quillboars, why would i bother, i can just get my level capped guildee to show up and 1 shot it all

in other words, if you own a destroyer i'm sure you have way better shit to be doing, AKA something akin to the profits required to operate said destroyer for 5 seconds

"CUTSCENE, CUTSCENE CUTSCENE" - Derek while squeaking like the little girl he is

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>>157050582
resbond pls

>>157052302
>>157052765
ok how about pretty much any spaceship btfo people on foot then? in the gamescom demo they did the same thing

I just think the FPS stuff should stay balanced for space stations

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>>157052889
Nice ship you've got there.

>>157052985
>smaller than a S1 ship weapon
Yeah, no.

>>157052889
don't fuck with ships if youre on foot i guess

also there will be weapons to deal with ships on foot, even right now 2-3 people laying into certain ships hard on foot can seriously disable them quickly, you can chop the main thrusters off a cutlass in 2-3 sniper shots ATM

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we are being watched

>>157053034
Someone on foot has the advantage of cover and "perfect" aim, you don't.

Couple of shots in the wrong place and it might end up costing you more than its worth to do the mission, especially when it isn't just a "ethnically cleanse area x".

If they do AI right they'll just hide if you pass overhead, too.

is there a free-fly on right now?

did they even attempt to make it known if there was one announced?

i've got skeptical freinds who for some reason still cannot wrap their heads around the game, i need to reeducate them

>>157053256
freefly likely won't be tell 2.6

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We cannot let this evil continue. Nor can we let the hateful ideology of Sand Nomads – its oppression of Dragonflys, scavengers, and nonbelievers to their Sandworm deity – be allowed to reside or spread within our own countries. We will defeat Sand Nomads, just as we have defeated every threat we have faced in every age before. But we will not defeat it with closed eyes, or silenced voices. Anyone who cannot name our enemy, is not fit to lead this country. Anyone who cannot condemn the hatred, oppression and violence of Sand Nomads lacks the moral clarity to serve as our Imperator.

REMOVE SAND KEBAB TODAY!

>>157053434
>Dragonflys

Triggering me every time I see this.

Why is /pol/ leaking out all over the boards?

Am I the only one who checked out the Leir System in the star map?

Turns out Leir II (Mya) is home to a planet inhabited by "Purists" who "Don't want any outside influence into their society", read: Space Muslims.

That's probably the sandniggers coming to defend their claim on Leir III, and I bet the Myans who shot down that Javelin.

>>157053556
it's like saying flybies.

>>157053673
>There are people that only post on a single board

I don't think so jim

>>157053729
>>157053434

REMOVE
SPACE
KEBAB

>>157053434
Who else here is going to join the valiant crusade to make the so called "Purist" sanders extinct?

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Some one put the Cutlass in the Polaris hangar.

>>157054007
Knew it'd fit. Cutlass is definitely the best choice for the Polaris if you plan to have a Marine deployment focus.

>>157054070
>>157054007
Obviously it'd fit, the Hangar is massive.

Its just the brochure says a "light fighter" for whatever reason

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>>157054007
that's a big ship.

>>157054007
More snub fighters when?!

>>157054007
>you can fit atleast 8 Dragonflies

Wew cig don't artifically limit it if the Caterpillar can also hold a bunch too.

>>157054007
Huh, didn't notice that the hangar has a elevator for the ship. That's cool.

>>157053673
because pol is best board and you should be thankfull that we try to warn you all

>Dragonflies are $35/each
>literally "it can fit in your ship" as a selling point over any other actual ship that price

these things shouldnt be more than 10 bucks

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>>157054616
Gretcat is what you're looking for, or the P-52 for $20

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>>157030682
Any news on the Redeemer?

>>157054296
Its artificially limited.

Caterpillar gets 3, IIRC.

>>157054854
Caterpillar gets three per module, and it has four modules.

>>157054807
SonnBackburner indefinitely

>>157054807
Redeemer deleted from the game.

>>157054807
Redeemer?

You mean the Aegis Hoplite, right?


Redeemer isn't priority

>>157054807
Would that fit into a Polaris?
Or even better... Reclaimer

>game doesent have interceptor (m50 is racer)
>game doesent have 1-2 crew gunboat (redeemer getting deleted)

boring

>>157055257
>game doesn't have interceptor
What

Gladius, Sabre, they can all chase down the slower combat fighters, fly a 350r if you're hunting Heralds.

>game doesent have 1-2 crew gunboat
Redeemer isn't being deleted, Freelancer MIS is a Missle BOOT

>>157055257
>>game doesent have interceptor (m50 is racer)
Gladius

>>game doesent have 1-2 crew gunboat (redeemer getting deleted)
Cutlass

>>157054007
So wait, everything is already grey-boxed? This could be a hangar ready ship in the not as distant future?

>>157048132
I want Sean Tracy's MWLL so fucking bad. If there's anyone to implement mechs properly, its him.

>>157052009
I think destroyers are too big to land planetside, right?

Does anyone here use two sticks to fly? How is it?

>>157055672
The exterior, weapons, hangar, and landing gear have been grayboxed and they're most likely moving onto interior soon. Main issue is they said you can fit a bomber in it and the Gladiator doesn't fit so it may get a small size boost to accommodate it in the hangar.

All the models in the holoviewer are early greyboxing models.

>>157055820
Literally a meme setup for dads

>>157055672
nah that's just some early WIP model to sell it

>>157053434
>>157053971

I hope we can wear their outfits and terrorize people.

I swear to god at a lot of points in that demo you could have just put
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTKakINXjl8
on top of it and it would fit perfectly stylistically.

Kill sand aliens acquire creds.

>>157055870
What? Why?

>>157055820
Yeah, its pretty damn good.

Lots of control.

>>157055828
Is a Gladiator really that much larger than a Cutlass? The Gladiator is smaller than a Cutlass in the details page...
I'm all for thick, but if her ass gets any fatter she eventually she stops looking good.

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>>157055820
If you are going to fly stick at least use the twist axis instead of bodging a solution with another stick. The only thing you are really getting is analog control on a few your translation axis's.

Pictured: the only other stick I would consider in addition to a normal one.

>>157056446
Scale guy whos doing the thread on RSI said the Gladiator doesn't fit, taking his word for it but haven't ran the numbers myself

Also it's definitely 155m like the Brochure says, not the 130 in the stats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3--TAeTmqw

>>157056596
Oh... then the ship specs/stats page is untrustworthy, I'll remember that.
Wonder what the largest cargo ship she'll be able to take is. Then just have a heavily armored cargo ship.

>>157056678
Fucking lmao, it's entirely true he just breaks down

>>157056596
Not that anon, but the Gladiator is not only several meters thinner than the Cutlass, but its wingtips fold, making it even thinner Doesn't make sense that it wouldn't fit.

>>157056678
I like how the video transitions from "released on date" to "shown on date", but acts like they're the same thing.

>>157056596
By the way, can I have a link to this supposed thread?

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>>157056734
Cutlass / Freelancer variant best choice for Polaris.

>>157057019
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/56ptdy/polaris_hangar_dimensions_indepth_look_brochure/

>>157057050
In my mind the best use of the hangar is to deal with fighters that the Corvette can't handle because they're too agile.

To that end, Freelancer seems like a terrible choice. Cutlass, maybe.

>>157044520
Shes an actor.

>>157057158
I'd personally got with a Cutlass, mainly using it as a shuttle craft. If the rework allows a Dragonfly inside like Coon hinted at then that'd be extra usefull.

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>>157057152
Part of me wants to say that he went wrong in measuring the fighter bay, because wtf is that red square, and all those open spaced he's not factoring in?

>>157057535
Obviously the red square is smaller than actual space, but the point is any ship with a stated dimension smaller than the red square could definitely park in it.

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>be cameraman on stage
>wear all black so you're not obvious
>fuck it up by wearing bright red fluorescent shoes

>>157057904
>not wearing red shoes
>not being a /stealthy clown/

>>157057535
>>157057670
Wait, actually looking at it again, not only is that red square not measuring the entire flight bay, but the bay on that mock up looks fucking tiny compared to all other concept art, and the greybox model.
Methinks that isn't to scale.

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KEK