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>Atlas of Worlds information
general: https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds
atlas mechanics: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099
>2.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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still sane, anon?
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>playing poe at 4k
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I've already quit this league, what games shall I play until next league starts (December) ?
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>>156994834
Do you even need more than the 5 arrows in split arrow? Why'd you waste a gem on more projectiles?
(yes i know you got this from reddit)
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>>156996719
i would have a hefty list of suggestions but as a rule i don't help shitcrows
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>>156909450
>Free
>>156914956
>FREE
>>156922078
>free
>>156928209
>free
>>156928895
>FREE
>>156934190
>free
>>156934674
>free
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>>156996793
Because it looks badass, that's all there is to it, kid
>>156996719
Overwatch
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what kind of damage is Lair Rigwald's wolf spirit charge thingy he casts?
does absolutely no damage on me.
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>>156997687
it must be a damage type that you have very good mitigation against
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>>156997687
it's physical animal damage

are you wearing a queen of the forest? that gives you reduced physical damage taken from animals
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>>156996926
How can you tell i'm a shitcore or cuckcore player?
>>156997553
No thanks
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>>156997981
>>156997792
I don't have that great phys reduction, maybe 60%? i'm a guardian with 1.7k life reserved
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>>156998063

white women are bland and uninteresting, just like shitcore gameplay
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>>156998063
not him but if you like taytay so much, you must be a run of the mill pleb with run of the mill pleb tastes

you like generic popular pop rock
you play casual games for "fun" (thus softcore)
you use social media
you comment on reddit
etc

btw what's the best taytay song?
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>>156997553
>badass desu
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>>156998340
jelly 5-arrow peasant detected
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>>156996719
PLAY DOOM
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XD
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not going to read your novel
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>>156998242
shake
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>>156999034
Atleast give me a (You) ??
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>>156998904
>shitcrow trade

why should i care about this?
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@156999375
No
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>>156998904
That poor soul, you have to be a natural born jew to have succes in trading.
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>>156999490
> logoutcore

lol?!?!?!?! XDD
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>shitcrows unironically think dying is better than logging out
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How do we make Regal Orbs great again?
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>>156999808

They are useful for pussy-rolling™ new maps you have to unlock

Alt 1 easy mod, regal it, then corrupt it.

EZ map unlocks.

i can't be the only one who did that right?
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>>156999775
low effort post
go back to discord
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>>156999978

i just use them in for-profit jewel crafting
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>>157000057
why don't you go back to discord faggot
since you want your safe space
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>>156999808
We build a wall
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So what's the deal with the infested vultures/crabs?
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>Thinking of characters I want to make
>"Well, this would be good synergy with this set of skills, but why should I even bother when I could just go assassin and do more damage?"
And then I end up having multiple level 94 assassins.
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>>157000527
who knows. there's no enough in game evidence to link them to anything lore wise.

Maybe just a resident species in wraeclast
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>>157000880
I hope their names all have some sort of ass pun.
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>>157001129
I name all my characters after shoes. Pretty sure that makes me cooler than unimaginative fagits like ZiggyD.
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>>156999808
Would they be better if they were guaranteed to add at least 1 prefix and suffix (maybe not on jewels). Seems shitty to regal something and get only 1 mod. It would only be worse for multi crafted mods, but they could always add some kind of new currency that would upgrade an item without adding mods.
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martial arts skills fucking when?
good claws skills fucking when?
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>>157001240
I'm stealing that, I'm doing that now.
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>>157002036
TAFFER
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>Temp chains
>Chilled ground
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>>157001753
it's not the skills claws can use that's the problem: it's the claws themselves and claw nodes.
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>>156999808
eh they're ok for jewel crafting if you don't want to burn through alch + scouring or chaos
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Most uniques in this game seem to be tailored to be used with a very specific build in mind (or are simply outright bad).
What are some uniques that simply are outright good and universally valuable? The only one I've encountered so far is Belly of the Beast, it's basically a very nice rare chestpiece on crack.
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>>157002701
what you dont like the idea of needing to roll maps with monster charges and bloodlines to maintain your claw charge-stealing build xd?
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>>157003726
Atziri's Promise
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>>157004391
definitiely seems universally usable.
How do I spot chaos damage btw? I know that poison does chaos damage, but what else?
Is all the red shit Malachai does Chaos?
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>>157005343
http://poedb
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>>157003726
plenty of them really

dark seer for example is underrated, literally perfect for hybrids, sadly its a sceptre so you cant dual wield with a wand
carcass jack is good for many builds too

wurms molt is cookie cutter belt for melee builds

there is no universally viable unique, except those low levels uniques to twink your character

just go to the wiki look at them all
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anyone here play in standard and is relatively poor? i just died and it seems like a waste to let this 6L dust in a league I'll never touch
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>>157006835
we're all elite HC players here!
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>>157006835
me
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>>157002460
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2 fucking characters leveled to 90 and all i've dropped so far were 2 exalts.

Guess i should've bought some MTX to boost that RNG.
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Reave or lacerate?
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>When you start a new character and get a Monstrous Treasure Prophecy in a Beyond map
Ephij with 3 Spirits, Thief, Warlord, and Aurora Cultist.
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>>157009756
lacerate because its just easier

with reave you need to use vaal reave too else the aoe is shit
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Thinken about the next act
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I wish I was Chris Wilson
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>>157010062
Sounds rip as fuck
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>>157002460
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>>157010759
That's a T1 Desert. Was really tame.
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>>157010575
Thinken about no Cruel difficulty
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>>157011957
Thinken about the difficulty changes
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>>157012870
Thinken about the new monster types
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>>157014109
huh. That was weird. Here's the image I meant to post.
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>>157011957
but what about the bandits!?
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>>157014363
thats a good question
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>>157014363
map bandits
what about cruel lab?
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>>157014363
How to: Reduce Difficulty Count
Step 1: Figure out replacement for unique Rewards, this includes Through Sacred Ground Jewels and Bandits
Step 1.5: Bandit rewards can have their Cruel reward moved to Act 5 Normal and Act 5 Merc. gets a new set
Step 1.75: Unique Jewels from TSG in Cruel moved to a Side Quest in Normal Act 5, a new set for Act 5 Merc.
Step 2: Redistribute Skill Point book rewards, meaning probably putting some points on the Respec Books in Act 2 and something in 5, no room in 4, 3 and 1 are stuffed.
>Cutting Cruel means 7 Skill Points need to be redistributed not accounting for any in A5
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>>157010062
>running t1 maps with a 15c prophecy

why?
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>>157014846
>Implying I care
I'm just having fun m7.
I was also unaware and low on Coins. Any other valuable ones I should keep an eye on?
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>>157014914
double lab enchants, and obviously 5/6l prophecies
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>decay is supported by all gems that were used in the "hit"
WHAT WERE GGG THINKING?!?
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>>157016002
degens are cool
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clouded ridge what did i do to you
why are you so absent
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lab is shit, annoying stuff

lab runners are the worst
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>>157016002
What cool stuff could you do with this?
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>>157011957
Oh right, I forgot about that!
3.0 better not disappoint.
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>>157017083
kill everything instantly
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>sceptre of god is still needlessly long

just take the elevator
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trump won the debate poeg! he won by a country mile!
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masty 0-4
sleep 5-9
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMAAN-wghCPpkSrVa4snBBYdhHk7DI0HwIEB4PbVcY6WCcvOtismBEPfq-NGeAS2V_djEyzl5VSUz1fl_RtGQj0wFRqQ7zqNsXYJKcIna7lixvxfsfr7jLRRUfAZjwF73yf35o7gpvsOIV7ZlSUb3IP7TzVpleUcYXMt9V1sULauUbXIvRsC5Mnf8YwW6yXlYcdg9n8CarAmgSzogDwHxzcuJMo-oGvuNDaOrEFmuBFnVNSgsf56EGHtz7-Cti9NZL-j03jplc64fJFkFUaONQH3I1resi_RlL8TA==

This is my first attempt at making a tree for a non-crit lightning tendrils (because the skill's concept really appeals to me).

I would appreciate any constructive criticisms and feedback. I understand that it's going to be mediocre due to my lack of experience, but I'd like to make it more efficient!
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Ok, desu this might have been viable if not for cleave. I'm pretty sure I can't make shit with a cleaver on this build.
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>>157019420
lightning tendrils is shit and only viable for leveling in normal
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>>157019670

I just love the skill so much.
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>>157017893
post link
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>>157019568
Ancestral bond and cleave? fug. Just stick culling and whatever on hit effects on cleave and focus on the totems.
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>>157019420
Didn't click your link, but do something with Kitava's Thirst since LT's actually succession of rapid casts. It was the spell in my mind when they introduced that unique.

Do something with Clear Mind jewel, MoM, and Pledge of Hands (maybe EE too).
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>>157016002
does it stack with skills like barrage?
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>>157016002
>I'm playing ED
>I'm not using this Essence yet
WHAT AM I THINKING?!?
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cleave is actually good
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>>157020039
no
>>157020803
no
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>>157020803
for me to poop on
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>>157020803
>smaller aoe and range than lacerate
>less dps than lacerate
wow sounds really good
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>>157021541
GREAT post
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>>157016002
Okay, supposedly it doesn't stack, but can two instances from two decay weapons be active at the same time? Like, ED with dual wield decay wands putting two separate decay DoTs?
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Avians and infested enemies are so damn revolting, I love cutting them down by the hundreds
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>Ability I want to use is not one of the BASED THREE SKILLS OF THE TRIUMVIRATE
>Build is therefore irrelevant and will not make it past le drie laake memes
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>>157023641
>BASED THREE SKILLS OF THE TRIUMVIRATE
You mean Tornado Shit, Earthquack, and Blade Vortex?
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>>157023641
you even suck at feeling bad for yourself
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>>157024013
ancestral totems not tornado shot
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knowing 1 out of 3 aint bad. maybe next weekend, friend.
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>>157024294
Ah, I see. Technically, that's not a Triumvirate, that's just 3 skills with two of them tied to Str and none to Dex.
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>>157024445
maybe if dex and its associated mitigation wasn't shit
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>>157024559
Maybe you should get better then.
Cause 55.5% Dodge and 61.5% Spell Dodge is nothing to scoff at.
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>>157024445
>Technically, that's not a Triumvirate
It has nothing to do with dex.
It's "technically not a triumvirate" because it's not an uneasy alliance of three power hungry men in ancient rome.
As far as pushing it as an analogy for the three most powerful skills in poe it's fine.
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>>157024623
58% and 64%*
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>>157024623
yeah bruh I somehow missed dex giving dodge and spell dodge
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>>157024886
Is any Int or Strength build going to go get the Dodge and Spell Dodge line?
Or bother with Atziri's Step?
Or a Quartz Flask?
No. But that doesn't mean it's a bad defense layer.
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>>157023641
You don't know suffering until you've tried to make Arctic Breath work as a skill
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>>157025053
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Dexterity
huh, weird
still not seeing dexterity contribute to dodge or spell dodge, maybe the site is outdated?
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What's the quickest way to farm a taste of hate?
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>>157025150
The only problem I have with arctic breath is when something is hitting me from the other side of those prison cell walls and I have to go open the door first.
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>>157025872
kill monsters
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>>156996939
I love FREE guy.
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>>157022382
>less dps than lacerate
hahaha no
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>>157025872
farm currency and buy the div cards
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>>157027465

lacerate only has more dps if you can reliably hit shit with both waves. i assure you that wont be the case 85% of the time

that said, lacerate has much better aoe to the point its hardly a melee skill so that alone makes it better
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>>157027465
>163.2 > 117.8 * 0.75 * 2
ebin memes bro enjoy your shit skill.
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>>157023641
>waaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah my build is bad because the game won't let it be good
There are people who killed Shaper with fucking Fireball, retard. Stop making excuses.
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>>157024623
getting 1-shot is definitely scoffable.
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Does this increase the "poison" chaos damage from Caustic Arrow and other such skills or only the poison status effect from Viper Strike?

If not should I go for it anyway for the 10% poison on hit? I'm going full DoT anyway
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>>157028961
Poison is chaos damage. All chaos damage is not poison. Poison needs a hit to be applied. That cluster is utterly wasted on CA. It's only justified in the case of Viper Strike really, but if you're playing VS you might as well uninstall
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Going for a fun build on EHC. Was gonna do 2h axe cyclone leech slayer.

http://poeplanner.com/AAMAAWhBQU1FQVFBQWc3a2RGZXlLOE9sR3lwQ0UyVWQtdlRabFRiNm5xWlI0ZXFrbmhPX2F3WFR0QlMxNjcwQ2dYaFB2VG1GU2s2aUtzMWRVYzJzUkdrTXhUUDlPS2lQVGJ5ZWFhbzlnWVNHdVVIdDBaYWNUeVJwVk51Z0I1NmN3bnMzeW5HNlg5NzdTSWZKQmdnZFhEZGxoclkzUGZsVzF3UVJmUHhRZzd3NVFSLVJSWjV1dVBzYXVDMkd2YkdqeThCLWlBQVN6d0dZOEJlOThQQzJEekxjLV9ncll2VFdTZzEtV2JKSE9rdEFTNFM1VDAyOFVUZnhMdko4WWtjVlQzREpJZUFVOFJVZTFCT1FpR213MjZTU3FGbV9qYWlsUDdEaUZlMlpVT3Rnbkw1QlZBWkV0MHJfVlU3dmtzVG5kbmp5TWRtdTNoWDJDbXhvLThpX3lSYVUxREhBN3R2Vmhzb0NHdElXbko1OD0ACEFBQUFBUUFBAAA=

Any suggestions? The two shitty jewel notable bunches are for 2 Inspired Learning's, I'll probably shift that around.

Is RT mandatory for 2H? Will I miss too much and die from not leeching? Or can I get minimal accuracy and be fine?
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>>157029464
>fun
>cyclone
>remember horrible memories about getting stopped by the tiniest pebbles on the ground
>stops reading
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>>157029464
If you're not going crit, there's is zero reason to not get RT. Reliable hits is essential for a leech build. Your tree looks pretty bad and unfocused for that reason.
>poeplanner
don't do that
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>>157029275
Any suggestions for where I should be going? Seems like I grabbed all the chaos damage ones nearby.
Using a bow, caustic arrow, with a support totem using wither. Sometimes essence drain.

www.poeurl.com/OeU

I don't know shit about this game but I'm doing pretty well so far, Piety went down in a minute
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>>157029661
This. Every little object stops you from using cyclone and the hitbox is really fucked up. When a monster is higher or lower than or even in a fucking corner, you won't hit that shit.

Worst part of it all cyclone is still the best melee attack skill after EQ, good job GGG.
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>>157029984
You're CA yet are picking Depth Perception??
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>>157030148
I wanted to stop missing. It worked.
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>>157030184
missed out on a chance at a decent tree, nerd
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>>157030184
I thought the cloud doesn't miss?
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>>157030245
Maybe, but all the other shit I've got on it would.
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>>157030390
you know you've gone full retard if you're using CA as a direct hit damage dealer with various ele damage
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>>157030390
sometimes it pays up to look up a guide
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>>157030510
That's all from the bow and also various equipment bonuses.
My caustic arrow is paired with void manipulation and faster attacks.
I've focused everything I could into chaos damage / chaos DOT.

Again, I don't know what I'm doing, but this has been extremely effective for me and like FUCK am I going to go back to 65% hit chance when I effectively get 300 damage per shot less on a miss.
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>>157030390
change caustic arrow for tornado shot
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>>157030918
You think that could possibly be why I was asking for help?

>>157030958
Doesn't do chaos, renders the build pointless.
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>>157031056
your life is pointless, my man
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>>157031056
oh, you want to do chaos? i thought you wanted to do direct ele damage
than don't bother with any of the ele shit, stack aoe, attack speed, and extra proj
honestly drop the chaos supports for now and use inc aoe and gmp
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Why does ggg hate melee? Shit like cleave and dual strike really need a buff.
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>>157031587
god no, i don't wanna play another cleave or dual strike meta again, they're visually and mechanically boring.
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Why does ggg hate ranged? Shit like Ice Shot and Arc really need a buff.
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>>157031056
if you to be a CA, you need to focus on the DoT

scale it as hard as possible: void manip, rapide decay, conc, slower proj, pierce etc

focus on scaling aoe, dot, projectile and chaos in your tree/gear
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>>157031930
Atleast make them viable
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>>157032268
they are, but nobody plays them because there are better choices
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>>157014783
You can easily shift a skillbook to killing Malachai
He should get at least SOME kind of reward
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it's another slow news day.....
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they're all on vacation probably. the spend a week throwing a new leaguetogether and then quit for two months
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I'd bring Bex to my hideout if you know what I mean
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Does this build expect me to buy a bunch of regrets after I hit 70 or am I reading it wrong?
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1291803

Passive leveling(?): https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYAAABeAO4FLQW1CC4RLxUgFr8Zjhm0I_YmlSpNKwos6S2DMHw1kjY9PydDMUV8R35KyE2SUUdUR1VLXfJh4mKsZU1sjG6qdO11y3rvfXWE2Yw2jX2Nfo2_l5edqp7Eo4qmvrQ4tMW18re2u-O9Nr6nwuzEotN-1CPYvdrB5RnqYutj7YPuDu969qP79f66?accountName=Serleth&characterName=Teszala

This is just called the passive, so I assume it is the final product?:https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCAABeAO4DHgUtBbUILgzyDkgRLxNtFAkUdRUgFr8Y2xmOGbQajRvIH0Ej9iaIJpUqTSpbLOktgy4jLlMwfDWSNj031DrhPLY-zz8nQzFHfkrITINNkk3jUUdS7FVLWhpaUlsmW69h4mKsZU1qjGyMbqpw1HSBdO11y3aCeu97w311f_uAs4JehNmGs419jX6Nv5FHk5mdqqEiotmjiqXLpleomrDYtMW00bVItfK3MLe2u5674702vea-p8LswzPEosgMyBTLvc_d02_TftQj2L3aO9rB3Q3jhOaB6mLrY-0_7YPuDu968YryRfVv9qP5pP4K_o_-ug==

I am only like 15 so far using spark atm, but this seems so counter productive. I will do it if I have to, but just thought I could be mistaken as this is only my second character and my first time going through a build alone.
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>>157033585
The regret plan is probably playing with cuckcore in mind. If you are in softcore you can scrub your way to the end game build.
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>>157033862
I am in EHC, my first character died at 75 so I am starting a new one. Alas my friend is out of town so I am trying to follow a guide. Guess that means I need to go with the regret route. Thanks.
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>>157033585
You get up to 6 refund points per difficulty, so 18 total. Plan accordingly. It's also common and to be expected to have found a few regret orbs by the time you reach late merciless. In light of that, I'd allow myself to shift around 20-25 points if a "full" respec is necessary at some point, but any more than that might be too costly for a new player.

That being said, you get 6 off-hand sockets to level gems any any projectile-based tree can easily switch from say, Spark, to CA later on as long as you have gems leveled in off hand ready for the switch. Just make sure you focus on generic projectile nodes first so as to maximize the trees overlap and minimize respeccing costs.
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What's with Acrobatics that almost every single ranger build I see goes for it
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>>157034465
30% to avoid attack damage is a pretty good thing to have for 1 point
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What loot filter do you guys use?
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>using filters
>not using cyberoptic corneal implants
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>>157034809
None because i don't know how to write one

and every one i've seen looks like someone fucked a bag of confetti
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>Faster Projectiles
>+20% projectile damage
>+51% projectile speed
>110% mana cost

>Slower Projectiles
>+20% projectile damage
>-31% projectile speed
>140% mana cost

I don't get it
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>>157036462
increased versus more, idiot
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>>157035525
Neversink's has a less conspicuous version that I like. You should probably just give in and use it, it's astonishing how much more enjoyable the game is.
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Roses are red
Harambe's in heaven
Memes are eternal
Bush did 9/11
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>>157036559
I will NOT stand for this abuse?
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>using increased in the current year
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>>157037416
I don't know, will you?
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>>157034036
Ok ty
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>>157034465
>acrobatics
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>unique drops
>every other unique i've gotten is worth jack shit but decide to check the price on it anyways
>doesn't really look that good either
>punch abyssus into the search
>20c minimum
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>farming shit maps with wyrmsign rampage
this is fun
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>>157037885
Shaper's only physical damage is the slam which will one shot you with or without that increased damage taken, the item is all upside for one of the easiest builds for the biggest fight this expansion.
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>make build that I think is going to be real fun and flow well with multiple map mods
>have trouble at every turn and the damage is extremely underwhelming
Feel like killing myself
I'm just going to go meta next league.
Making a special snowflake build just isn't fucking working out for me
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>>157033585
This is me, as I am currently on the leveling tree using spark, what would be a good unique while I level?
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>>157003726
Skyforth.
Are you running CI/LL?
And not running ED?
Congratulations, Skyforth is BiS. Have fun never hitting full build unless you're filthy rich.
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>>157038925
Also should I use a 14% quality spark or a vaal spark?
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>>157014783
>4th set of bandits
10% increased int/dex/str, maybe? WI would fucking love that.
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>>157019568
Summon skellies totems?
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>>157029984
Take Damage over time, chaos, and projectile damage nodes, get the increased AoE nodes from the tree, as well. Get a +2 or +3 bow (Silverbough is a unique option).
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>>157038929
>50 exalted
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>Found Nuro's Harp and Drillneck
>Want to make an ice shot build
>Build will never match the clear or tankiness of my FB IB build
>Wont get to be Berserker

Why even bother
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I died with a whispering ice character (86) and an essence drain character (89).
My next one is a cyclone trickster, how long will i last ? i'm 63. Going dual curse, already have a 5l cospri's will.
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>>157039781
>Nuro's Harp
why the fuck do you need a nuros harp to make a fucking ice shot build you fucking turnip
that bow was added to the game purely as a skin transfer
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>>157039923
>>157039923
>2016
>cyclone
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>>157039923
>cyclone trickster
lmfao
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>>157040346
>every skill is now kinetic blast
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>>157039781
nuro's harp ice shot champion is a good support build
go point blank and run blasphemy enfeeble for your party
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>>157040804
if you are gonna run it as support then build like a proper supportcuck

halfassed supports are shit
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>>157040346
Because Ranged definitely needs more utility right
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>>157040925
>he didn't give up on melee after 2.0
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>malformation piety

can GGG not into consistent boss mechanics?
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>>157035525
onefiltertorulethemall and ziggyd's filter are both simplistic, the latter being as near to the game's original nameplates as possible while still filtering out bullshit
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>>157040346
seems op for bows, even if it was limited to bow skills without an aoe component it would be op since split pierce.

the best varient on this would be some kind of shrapnel skill that behaved like fork, but not shit ie ice shot.
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>>157041028
I've been playing it since Closed Beta, I just can't stop myself
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choosing to be a streamer should count as consent for anything
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is it just me or does poeg feel less dead than usual at this point in a league?
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is 10k tooltip good for bladefall? 6L, level 17 gems
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Remember when getting to level 100 was a big deal
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it still is
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>>157042464
i member

baker was the first to reach 100 in beyond league i think and he inherited the character at lvl98 from a friend so he didn't even do it all himself
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>>157040857
chilled ground + enfeeble is decent enough for a support that does alright damage
it really depends on who you are playing with
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Why is Grace so perfect?
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>>157041956
according to steam statistics (which is ~25% of the total player base) this league has had the best player retention 2-3 weeks into the league going back at least 3 leagues
atlas was a great success because it made mapping fun again and essences made leveling/gearing a whole lot easier
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>>157042464
We need some garbage to pad out the league like paragon levels, because as it stands it a bunch or poopsockers going at it for a week or two then the league turns into "Less inflated version of its non-timed counterpart" for three months.

Or reduce the leagues to a month. Four months was good before, when capping took a long ass time, but now its pointless.
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>>157025053
Strength gives you some health, and as inferior as health is to es, it's still some mitigation
Intelligence gives you a fucking percentage to ES which is obscenely good, because if you're running ES, every % gives a huge boost as you stack it.
Dex gives evade, which in itseld isn't useful, it's only used for armor builds to dodge some crits and keep it down, adn the same for ES.

You're meant to stack it with other forms of mitigation. Specing into dodge/spell dodge is a death sentence on higher tier maps because the seconnd you get clipped (and you will because of these shitty servers) you're dead, unless you're popping block flasks 24/7.
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>>157042698
how does a couple dozens of no lifers hitting 100 in 2 weeks affect a league activity as a whole? you're pretty fucking retardedirrelevant
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>>157042851
it's actually a huge deal tbqh

power creep has trivialized the entire game
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>>157042670
because evasion is love, evasion is life
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>>157042565
>chilled ground + enfeeble is decent enough for a support that does alright damage

>alright damage

you dont. not for a group
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>>157042896
yeah so many people getting tired of farming shaper 50 times a day
so trivial man
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>>157042941
people unironically had it on farm in EHC by week 3
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>>157042851
>how does a couple dozens of no lifers hitting 100 in 2 weeks affect a league activity as a whole?

By invalidating everything but the new mechanic/act/whatever.

A huge part of why people even play these games in the first place is the fucking ladder, lad.
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>>157042992
if by people you mean "less than 5", sure
5 people != the entire league, maybe numbers above 5 are somewhat difficult to grasp for your infant brain though

kys retard
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>>157043039
we're comparing new poe to old poe, RETARD

even reaching lvl90 was a massive accomplishment back then. reaching the highest tier of maps was practically impossible even for the poopsockers
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>>157043009
99.999% of players don't give a single shit about the ladder

they don't play to fucking compete with the likes of havoc or steel, you're as retarded as catposter

the reason most decent players quit by week 3-4 is that they're done with their challenges and the novelty of a fresh league has worn off, not because they lost any chance of being top 10
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>>157042851
>Implying having the league be 2 separate 2 month leagues of the same type, each followed by a minor balance patch wouldn't be better

I personally love seeing the meta evolve. It would be absolute madness.
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>>157042698
There is no way they can make enough content to do one month leagues.
The only way it would would be if the majority of players were ok with this and they just did the main league then 2-3 1-2 month flashback leagues after the main expansion.
There are too many casual players and those who are altaholics and like fully optimizing their characters and take months to do so.
Sadly, we are in the minority.
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>>157043108
>even reaching lvl90 was a massive accomplishment back then. reaching the highest tier of maps was practically impossible even for the poopsockers
surely that must have been interesting for everyone not in top 20 partying together

must have been a fun game, tell me more about how past poe was better and people grinding lvl 60 areas at level 85 was so captivating
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>>157042937
given that build slike warchief totems can carry a 3 man party, it isn't that big a deal
like i said, it depends on the party make up
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>>157043221
you're a filthy CASUAL and also probably a shitcrow too
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>>157043108
Wait, so you're saying it was better to have characters be invalidated by new leagues, whiel simultaneously not being able to acess all content?

Because that kinda shit isn't gonna get people to play a game, nobody wants to sit in front of a computer 24/7 to be able to hit level 90 and maybe do a couple of high tier maps. Most people don't even have that kinda time.
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>>157043247
go grind your 500th paragon level or whatever the limit is in d3 faggot
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>>157043134
>99.999% of players dont give a single shit about ladder

Which is why they all lose their collective minds when someone on the ladder dies.

Because, you know.

No one cares.
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>>157043284
ah yes because this game has seen such massive growth over the years
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Reminder.
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>>157043165
What you're saying could work if they fucking balanced standard and standard hc. They won't do that.
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>>157043221
>>157043247
not to mention how unbearably boring the skills were to use too
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>>157043324
No one outside of top 50 cares, no. This is why /820 is at its peak activities in the first 3-4 weeks when most people are chasing challenges rather than trying to participate in a rat race they have no chance of ever winning.
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>>157043326
yes and no
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>>157043326
Seems like it has, if you want an autistic grindfest/p2w fest for NEETS go play a shitty korean MMO and RWT.
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>>157043438
it hasn't grown at all

in fact it's gotten smaller
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>>157043467
you've said the same thing for the past 3 years
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>>157043324
People lose thier minds because it's funny as fuck to see a top 50 player die. global 1-3 if there's enough people on , do the same shit.
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>there are people who read globalshit
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>people unironically used to farm merc fellshrine as a legit end game activity
game was SO hardcore back then
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>>157043631
tbqh, i kinda miss making/joining public parties to grind docks or fellshrine
it was fun chilling and meeting random people while grinding levels
you don't really get that anymore
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>>157042936
Grace my youtube waifu, not Grace the aura...
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>>157043681
That's because of mapping.
The way most content is nowadays it makes grouping with people boring af unless you're using a meta build, or running with an aurabot.

If not you're better off gridnding solo, or with one other person. If maps say...unlocked rather than having to drop, and it was random modifiers that dropped, then you'd see more groups. You'd see even more if they balanced the skills/ group monster mitigation.
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>>157043702
go on
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>>157043876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6AVeGvNG60
Literally a heaven sent angel
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>>157043980
how many months of HRT on that youtuber?
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>>157044024
you stupid FUCK don't ever direspect my waifu ever again
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>>157044056
not him but it's a trap, right?
i really hope so because otherwise she is just an avg looking girl
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>>157043980
she has very pretty eyes
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>>157043980
any pics of her feet?
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>>157043980
dunno how but her face kinda looks like the tip of my dick
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>>157043980
>baby girl from Eraserhead all grown up

cute
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Guys
What is the difference between prefix and subfix?
How do I maximize my crafting?
Essences or Alchemy for Rings?
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>>157045113
>poeaffix.net
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>>157045113
There is no reason to use alchs instead of essences if you want to craft anything for self-use.
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>>157044368
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>>157045463
So perfect it hurts :(
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>>157043980

>vlogger
>3DPD
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>>157043416
wow, ok, invasion was that bad.

Surprised that the game is this steady
>>
enjoying your 50% drop in player base? :^)
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>>157046106
vanilla invasion was a lot of fun but obviously not for most because they don't like dying to bullshit oneshots
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literally WHEN will they discount COOL MTX items?@!?!??!?!?!
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the coolest mtx are the ones for existing uniques
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Would a taunt champion be great for burns?

>worthy foe for 20% more double dipping
>intimidate for 10% more double dipping
>increased damage for 60% increased double dipping

I'm thinking about doing an IB Champion.
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>>157048690
I don't think you understand what double dipping means.
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>>157048812
Your foes take 30% increased damage = your foes take 30% more attack damage, followed by 30% more burn damage if you ignite.
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>>157048434
get a job
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>>157049420
I can edit my loot filter for fake drops too
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>>157049096
l2into the difference between more and increased
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>>157049462
ok ????
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>>157049665
avatarfagging is a bannable offense.
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pathetic
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>>157028167
Have you seen a 2.4 fireball build trying to clear a map ? A normal map ?
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What do you do with all this t1-t2 map shit? Just combine them?
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>>157050015
yeah mathil has been playing it just fine
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>>157049483
"your foes take" increases are separate from the "you deal damage" increases.
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>>157050052
Yes
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>>157050058
>mathil is playing with a skill
>surely it must be viable
Damn...I knew posting in this general was a bad ideea...
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how does Herald of Ash compare to Hatred?

I'm using Hatred on my Cyclone build, and it generally does fine, but Blasph+Warlords and Hatred together reserve a lot of my mana, I have something like 90 mana left. Sometimes it feels a little uncomfortable and I go OOM.
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>>157050431
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>>157050431
>Have you seen a 2.4 fireball build trying to clear a map ? A normal map ?
I answered your question, nerd
don't get buttblasted it's actually a strong skill in the right hands
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>>157050486
Just use a mana flask /b/ro :)
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>>157050486
That's because you're retarded enough to reserve 35% of your mana for something you don't need on a melee build. Use Hatred+HoA, it's 10% less mana reservation and much more damage.
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>>157050431
If a shitter like mathil can make it work then it should be no problem for the esteemed Elitecore solo self found gentlemen of /poeg/.
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>>157050058
something viable in softcore =! something viable in hardcore
get that through your fat fucking head, shitcrow
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>>157050619
why the fuck would I swap out Warlords, which provides me Mana and Life Leech and Endurance charges, for something that just gives me more damage? It also is my only source of Endurance atm. makes no sense at all.
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>>157050052
i combine all that i can and sell the rest for 1 chisel to those who need unlocks
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>>157050938
wrong, if you define viable as deathless, then something viable in softcore = something viable in hardcore. you don't die on a fireball character because hello it's ranged therefore it works just fine on hardcore too.
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>>157050954
1) Melee have access to tons of leech, making WM's dual leech completely irrelevant, especially at the cost of 35% mana.
2) More damage means more leech.
3) Endurance charges are easily generated when you're melee, and WM's EC generation only works against trash.
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>you don't die on a fireball character because hello it's ranged
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how much mana does blasphemy + curse + increased area of effect reserve?
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>>157051243
35*1.4%
math is hard
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>>157051301
thanks, bae
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Where I can find lootfilters?
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>>157051135
so you die on melee builds
you die on ranged builds
and you're telling me you know more about mathil because you play in red flag league? LOL keep farming that dried lake with your 400% armour juggernaut, retard
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so i can run blasphemy plus a curse with increased area of effect and a herald, or drop the increased area of effect support gem and run arctic armour as well
how big is the default area of effect with blasphemy?
are there any diagrams?
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>>157051375
google
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>>157051120
Could you elaborate on points 1 and 3?
What do you mean with "easily generated when you're melee"? The only other sources of Endurance available to me would be Enduring Cry and the Node from Juggernaut (which I do not have yet). Am I missing something?
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>so i can run blasphemy plus a curse with increased area of effect and a herald
jesus christ
you're retarded
im out
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>>157051448
a 4k crit caster with no defenses is going to die on hc you fucking idiot
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>>157051572
various ascendancies perks
ecoms linked to trigger gems
enduring cry vs bosses

ec generation through warlord's is only really used by casters
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>>157051593
can you help me with my build before you go?
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>>157051571
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1246208
Would this work?
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>>157051706
Ok, I didn't know melee damage had the chance to stun on it's own. I would need a 6link to use ECOMS though, so that is out of the question for me right now.
Learned something new again though, thx bro.
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>>157052031
that's the one most people use.
i like it, just give it a try.
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>>157052031
it's cancer imo
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>>157052254
try linking it to your leap slam, you are that duelist player yeah?
>>
what
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>>157052592
no, I'm a juggernaut.
I have leap slam, but I rarely use it, it feels kinda clunky/unresponsive even with faster attacks linked to it.
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>>157052254
>I would need a 6link to use ECOMS though,
what the fuck are you talking about
you link it to trigger gems like vengeance or reckoning
that's how you passively generate endurance charges
>>
what are the best links for ice shot
and what do i use for single target?
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>>157052897
I'm rather new, so I didn't know what "trigger gems" are. I know now though.
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>>156998904
This is why shitcrow will always be worse than hardcore.
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pfft
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nice aqueduct diviner O_O
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>>157053071
chain
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>>157040346
Where's the less modifier, my dude?
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in your pants lol
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>>157043980
Fucking weebs
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>>157053356
>color coding div cards like you aren't going to pick them all up anyways
>>
what
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>>157053797
makes you feel extra good when a light blue card drops
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>>157053071
increased area of effect
increased duration
elemental proliferation
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>>157053838
haha like yeh
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>>157053536
>>157053838
>>157053996
>discord's waking up
im out
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>>157053071
You just treat it like a normal bow skill except you fit hypothermia support and maybe inc. AoE in there (chilling ground guarantees you have chill on targets to benefit from hypothermia and inc. AoE can help the skill shotgun)
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>>157054085
yeah my dude better get out otherwise there's gonna be the discord boogieman comin' to make your harcuck bvpf rip
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>>157053797
I like it because then I know if I should just dump the card into my stash until I get a collection or sell it now.
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>>157054085
I've actually been up for about 8 hours
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>When you 5L 6S your chest in 16 Jew + 7 Fus
Feels good man.
>>
Is Lacerate any good (or fun)?

>tfw it says melee (???) but you hit stuff half a screen away
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>>157054540
>when you play evasion builds
feels bad man
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>>157054580
:^) I'm having a blast.
>Have been using a Tab up to this point
Anything I don't kill instantly is easy enough to kite with Blink Arrow.
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>>157054548
it does alright in mid tier maps

>>157054540
kintsugi is literally my favourite unique chest now
both in terms of looks and effect
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>>157054540
>Not going for 6l
NO BALLS
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>>157054669
titziri's splendor though
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>>157054669
I agree, I'm very happy it got 3D art, up close and away, it looks great and the defensive bonus is top notch for the builds that would use it.
>>
gold is the most liberating of metals
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>>157054721
Work your way up, Friend. I'd rather not die as I transition into yellow maps.
Next up on my todo list is Reach of the Council and that's gonna drain all my resources, but once it's at least 5L6S, I can go back and work on my Chest.
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>>157054883
liberate my dick, faggot
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>>157054998
misery loves company i suppose
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>>157055031
The dead will soon rise for me, not against me.
>Tfw no Izaro Spectre
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>>157054825
not gonna lie, you look like an idiot
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>>157055084
rude
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>>157054883

>tfw mandatory gold door

Izaro you stupid fuck
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>>157055080
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>>157054669
Whats that armor on the second slot of row 4?
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Why did they make gettin to level 100 so hard if you're suppposed to make a bunch of alts, and they essentially wipe your characters after 3 months.
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>>157056185
Just play standard /b/ro :)
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>>157056185
it's supposed to be an achievement 'tard
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>>157056185
Because you're supposed to stop caring about experience around 80 when benefits from additional experience become marginal. You take one character to 90 for the challenge and then don't bother leveling the others.
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>>157056028
unreleased/unused art
that black armoured tabula though on row 2 though
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fireball is STRONG
do not bully
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post tree
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aof c2f frostbolt is literally stronger than fireball when it's all said and done
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>>157056635
yeah i love mathil's stream too
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im not gay but mathil with long hair...
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what
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>>157053797
It recreates the feel of cracking open TCG packs. This was my drug for like six years during highschool, and I still itch for the rush sometimes.
>>
are
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>>157057804
>6 years during high school
You had to repeat two grades?
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some
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maps
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Glacial Cascade still fun as fuck, but terrible?
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>>157056840
bully my shitty block dude
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQCALkdFeyK8OlGypCE2Ud-vTZlTb6nL8zBgk1GYuyE79rBdO0FLXrvQKDAv6mVDPesrwHcd-OpbnlowQRfPxQg7w5QR-RRf-Mx-xo-fuJ5OenVl3koKotPwBp4DbXyNZLYvf6PTeOmV419I_ajihutsbNXVIqzk6hhUniuPeJI7tN-73r2oxUgLYMZtH11_rowfJBV7T-VzPljexQEse9OXhNvO9NvLlMJM9E24iwEh4-ZMk7-CvJFOuHE9iftGS5Nknasz36tjdlhhVKbaq-nPQ8GOfuq8wZRYNRSAydE0qPnAhEGiyDjX9oKJr54bNiBmz0AJy862Hy7
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>>157058129
It does damage. It's still clunky. You can clear reds no problem. You just feel weird doing it when two or three mobs somehow don't get hit by the aoe.
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>>157058150
>48% chance to block
but why
aegis is 32
anvil is 8
ts is 3
you only need 78-32-8-3 = 35 block from tree
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how do you do damage with block builds?
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Is there any reason to use shields in this game? Dual wielding or 2h weapons seem so much better. Are they a thing in hardcore?
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>Someone just offered me 15C for my 3 soc 2L Belly of the Beast with meh rolls
>When an identical one is going for 5C on .trade
The fuck?
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>>157058776
varunastra
voidheart
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>>157058810
They used to be, you could make max block builds that were very strong. But GGG got butthurt over it like they always do and nerfed it into the ground.
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what are some good builds utilizing the point blank keystone?
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>>157058862
obviously he
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>>157058948
our guy mathil's dreamfeather st
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>>157058915
Block builds are still very strong. It's just that you don't need a shield to get a solid block chance anymore.

>>157058887
Is voidheart is still good? I haven't played melee this season.
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>>157058810
Reminder block is the strongest form of defense
Reminder Gladiator is the strongest ascendancy
Reminder that what we do in life echoes in eternity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXGFKyT8WKU
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>>157059213
i rather kill myself then play that build
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>>157059375
I think you've been afraid all your life.
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>>157059375
>he's never had sacred ground watered with tears of blood beneath his feet
L O L
O
L
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>>157059213
Mind spoonfeeding me a passive tree for something similar? I've got an aegis rotting in my stash.
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>>157059213
LMAFAO HOW THE FUICK DO YOU TAKE SO LONG TO KILL SHIM
NICE BUILD ROFL
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What's better for ED
occultist or trickster?
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>>157060120
berserker
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>>157059897
I don't know, I don't play melee
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1261200/#p13079521
from youtube description
The good part is that you don't really need voidheart
The bad part is that you kinda need varunastra
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is it generally better to not identify rings and amulets for the 2xChaos recipe or should I identify them for the chance that they're actually good?
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the chaos recipe, unid or no, is a noob trap
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>>157059213
>EQ is the only skill used with a max block build now
Makes me lol every time I see it
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>>157060185
Don't id anything that isn't a diamond ring or ilvl 83+ unless you're some kinda of semi-SSF masochist.
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>>157056316
Why would you want to achieve something every three monts of marginal importance? It's not an achievement, and it's not fun. Grinding for gear and fighting bosses is more challenging and fun. Especially when you can bridge gaps with the tree better than you could with gear that becomes obscenely expensive as you go up.
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died to invisible vault flameblasts
wtf is this shit
im so mad right now
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>>157060371
alrighto
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>>157060280
Anything you plug in with Varunastra would work actually, that's the beauty of the weapon, EQ is probably your best option if you want strong bleed/poison though
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>>157060418
i logged on that boss when i realised my dps wasn't good enough to kill him and i started taking mad damage from the ground pounds
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>>157060185
It literally doesn't matter. If you ID everything above ilevel 75, chances are you'll find shit that you can sell for an overall amount of chaos equal to or greater than the additional chaos you would have got from the recipe.
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>>157060418
>2016
>hardcucks still insist on playing cuckcore despite ggg's incompetence being proven countless times
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>>157060418
Just log out :^)
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>>157060492
i died in 1 second cus i guess i walked from 1 flameblast into another one
(but i only had 8.7k es pretty squishy)

fuck this game seriously
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>>157059102
I took a look at his st guide to see if I could glean some knowledge from it and was confused when I saw the point blank keystone. Isn't the place where it spins in place before returning bast the highest damaging one? Isn't that not in point blank range? Why would you be in point blank range with st? I am so confused.
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are max depression builds any fun? are they adulthood viable? just need something to carry me to age 30 maps
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>>157060639

>>157060673

>>157060567

yeah
fuck this game
i never gonna play this shit again
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>>157059213
>no Rumi's

ummmm what
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>>157060779
See you next league
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>>157060712
you use slower proj for bosses so the turning point of projectiles is in point blank range
for trash mobs it has enough damage anyway so the marginal loss doesn't matter
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>>157059213
Let's see you tank a shaper laser with a max block build
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>>157060742
i'm 30+ and i can tell that depression is not fun
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>>157060870
He has 78/78 base block. Why the fuck would he need Rumi's? He can use a regular granite for an additional suffix and auto-refill on crit taken
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>granite
lol
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>>157058810
Max block is still really good, but you'll still need about 4k health and decent mitigation along wwith it to not die.
The biggest problems with block builds isn't survivability, they excell in that, especially shield builds, they instead lack good damage. HOWEVER, my friend was hitting about 50k damage with 72% gladiator block (equal magic block) while using sunder and a Nightmare Bascinet. So it's do-able. I'm still strugling to hit past 13k on my max block crit gladiator though. Might be because I'm lacking critical damage multipliers, as well as a 6l.
>>157058915
They're still very durable, and 2hander block are very powerful, but it's hard to get survivability AND power with one.
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>>157061039
GGG designed the Shaper fight to be anti max-block builds
THAT should tell you how afraid they are of the potential of max-block
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>>157061442
>4k health
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>>157061039
Block builds can do most content, but I don't know about shaper....The biggest problem they face is lag, like everyone else, and of course oneshots or that terrible lock on lightning lazer bullshit.

Oneshots you're supposed to dodge, but with the shit latency, you might just wind up ripping to something you dodged. Or worse, trying to dodge, and the lock on screws you over and runs you into the enemy instead of away.
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>>157061691
You're retarded.
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>>157061843
how so
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>>157062186
You don't need more than 4k to do most end-game content, I did it on hardcore last league. Keep in mind this is ONLY FOR SHIELD BLOCK.

Dual wield and other things that won't hit 50-70ish still requires you have the health pool simply because you're not gettting as much mitigation frm armor and dodge with a lower % to block.
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me fighting the shaper
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>>157062630
excellent post
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>>157062702
thanks friend, i appreciate your support
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How often does the formless sea divination card drop? Would it be cheaper to stock up on reefs and coves to farm for a varunastra than buying it outright?
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retard
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D
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>>157063052
wanna map together
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2h slayer lacerate or 2x 1h gladiator ?

I already have a few slayers and I know it will just be better, but the gladiator is tempting.
Also dat bleed for single target looks good if using something like dual strike.
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>>157063663
lacerate gladiator with advancing fortress as a stat stick
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>>157063663
>lacerate
>using something like dual strike.

what did he mean by this
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How to make labyrinth better :
- shorten it
- have only 1 Izaro fight per difficulty, but harder
- make it more like a bigger map, with tougher mobs that actually scale to your level, so you dont go cheap and complete cruel lab at level 65
- HAVE A FUCKING CLUE OF WHAT THE SHIT YOU CLICK ON ACTUALLY DOES
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>>157063736
but where is the damage

you're not going far even with a 300deeps sword
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>>157064043
Once you farm uber a bit, lab becomes a joke.
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How important is it to have a high roll on your voidheart?
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How to make labyrinth better :
-Remove it
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>>157064575
But everyone loves it! That's why GGG added a mandatory reward at the end of it.
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>shitters still complaining about lab instead of getting gud
lmao
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OH BOY JUST LOOK AT THAT

LUCKY!
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>>157064825
Cool. Good luck, hope you get something nice.
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JUST
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>>157064043
How to make Path of Exile better:
Extend the Labyrinth to 5 sections meaning two additional phases to Izaro
In compensation, if a player logs out in an Izaro fight room after the fight has been completed, when the player next logs in on that character they will still be in that empty boss room in lab with their progress 'saved'
Delete all non-Labyrinth content from the game
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>>157065120
I hope you picked up that Karui Sceptre
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People fail to understand the concept of EHP (effective health pool) and how different layers of defense/avoidance/mitigation are superior to just high flat life values.
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>>157065558
b-but CI builds can have 14k ES and need to be nerfed!
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>>157065769
meme inoculation
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>>157065558
You fail to realize how EHP theory considers damage avoidance, even procedural avoidance like evasion, to have zero value.

Evasion shitters tried to redefine EHP when applying it to PoE to justify their retarded builds.
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>>157064575
>removing the only alternative to farming maps
LOL
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>>157062630
Please post it in the art contest thread.

Speaking of, can anyone post thier stashes of red tier maps? I need to see em for refernce.
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>>157066342
what do you think people did in poe before lab was added
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>>157066547
farmed lab?
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>>157065253
You're MAD!!!!!!!!
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>>157066547
complained about the end game content?
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>>157066738
Labyrinth is the best part of the game.
running maps with mods is comparable but still not quite as good.
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>>157066879
>t. newshitter
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>>157067182
Only absolutely new shitcrows cry about not being able to go 20 minutes in a lab run without dying. Anyone halfway decent at the game starts to work to tackle challenges instead of crying at the devs until they make them easier.
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>>157067556
but it's not a challenge, it's a chore
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>go health + secondary defenses
>need 3 high tier prefixes on every rare (health + flat secondary + local % secondary) in addition to resists
>secondary defenses fall apart against burst damage from tough fights
>go CI without other secondary defenses
>need 2 high tier prefixes on every rare in addition to resists, magnitudes easier to achieve than 3 prefixes
>full defenses apply to the hardest fights in the game that most need defenses
>not as effective against trash, but it doesn't matter because it's trash and not challenging
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>>157067851
So you're only complaining about the single run in each difficulty to get your ascendancy points?
In that case you are simply lying, because Labyrinth is more varied and more exciting than literally every other part of the level-up process that every character has to go through (the main quest) while also making up less than 10% of the time of that process.

It is both the least chore-like out of a list of chores and a very tiny portion of that time. There is no way you would complain about Labyrinth without complaining 9x as much about the rest of the main quest thus you must actually be masking the real reason you dislike Lab (most likely you are such garbage at this game that you risk death to traps even when you buy the lab run)
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>>157067556
I actually can't run lab. I can manage the majority of the game well enough, so that's not a problem. Lab, though. Damn. There must be something about the traps I guess. I can get up to four frames when I'm lucky and it's constantly freezing when I'm not. It's weird since that's really the only area my computer shits itself on.
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>>157068352
then you need to turn down your graphics settings, upgrade your drivers, or figure out what piece of hardware is bottlenecking performance on your PC. You can't expect the game designers to turn every game into kiddy shit so that people can play the game without the proper hardware.
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>>157068152
to be fair normal lab mobs that aren't izaro/argus are unimpressive and easy

they should make up some new ones
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>>157068612
fuck off back to the official forums retard
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>>157068612
Already did all of the above. I've come to accept that I can't into ascendancy classes. I just have to play the game like I have for the past few years. Kind of bummed that I can't make use of all the freebies ascendancy classes offer, but fuck. I've done what I can.
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How autistic do you have to be to make a support character?
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>>157068816
just get one of your friends to carry you through lab or something while you self cast immortal call
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>>157068935
>I'm going to run 5 auras at level 35 and use frost wall
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>>157068816
>Already did all of the above.
That's simply not possible. There is no way you upgraded your PC without seeing improvement in your graphical performance.
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>>157069597
Within reason, anon. I'm struggling to get by. Have been for a while, now. Upgrading my rig's just not something I'll be able to do until I get back on my feet.
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>>157068935
he just wants friends, man
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>Raiz: I'm playing softcore under hardcore rules, delete my character if i die
>dies
>doesn't delete character
ebin
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Does Argus not have the curse resistance that actual bosses have? He hits like such a baby against my turbo-curse build.
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>watching raiz
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>>157071750
Ziz hosted him
I respect Ziz's decisions.
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>>157071883
>I respect Ziz
kys
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>>157071926
>disrespecting world first EHC Shaper kill
lol
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Just how many touhou references are there in this game?
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>>157065558
lmao no thats complete fucking bullshit
CI >everything
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>>157072545
What are you talking about?
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>they have less than 30k ehp against elemental damage
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>>157073258
There were a number of people that designed their unique items off of touhou. Infernal mantle's probably the most recognizable one.
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NO MEMES BELOW THIS LINE

____________________________________
>>
TALAMOANA WARRIOR
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>Leveling CI crit freeze pulse
>Starting to get to the 20 hell levels where your damage drops off really bad until you get your crit stacked up
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FIVE FOR JUAN
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I finally dropped my conversion vinktar's but I dont want to play BV. What should I play with it?

meme builds very welcome
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>Autoreply: This player is AFK
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>>157074404
>leveling CI crit
why?
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I see a bunch of people shitting on evasion in this thread.

Is it really that bad? My ranger uses evasion for damage mitigation and all my equips are dedicated to evasion. I feel like if I went hybrid i'd have to use a shitload of respecs I can't afford and buy entirely new gear that I also can't afford.

I would just start over if I didn't have to grind 3 fucking difficulty tiers again.

I mean surely at least one person has beaten everything in this game with pure evasion right?
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What gems do I use with BV?
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>>157074706

Oh yeah also have CWDT - IC - ID to "help" with damage but why do all the build guides have such a hard on for it? It doesn't even last a second when procced. I feel like it's meant for builds that actually use Endurance charges - not on my Ranger w/ frenzy.
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>>157074745
Crit and Crit multi always
AoE/Conc
Spell echo
If you're too poor for vinktar, keep the last socket red and use added fire/life leech as necessary.
Otherwise last slot can be cont des, or phys to lightning for phys reflect maps (or if you need more leech with a spell dmg or pen vinktar)
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>>157074706
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>>157059213
cris wilson anus loading screen
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>they nerfed facebreaker back in 2012 because of a build that could single-target melee down a rare mob in like 4 normal-speed hits
>took like 20 seconds to clear a normal pack because you had to click on every single monster
and people say this game has no powercreep
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>>157064825
>>157065120
you didn't herd the ghosts into the essence pack?
wtf
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>>157074404
Why put yourself through that? Grab elemental and cold damage nodes until you have the levels. Then respec into crit once you can get both the gear and nodes.
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>>157074706
I'm running an es/ev trickster and it has been working great. Grace, trickster bonuses to dodge, smoke cloud potions, loris lantern unlucky mod (am low life) and enfeeble are working wonders.

However, it only works because i'm running ED, so i just cast once and run around like a beheaded chicken. Pure evasion wont work if you're melee or stationary.
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Two questions
1. How shit is pic related? Dropped it from Vaal Oversoul just a few mins ago, I will use it for my dual wield ranger build
2. What are some vital skills I have to take if I want to go dual wield ranger? I'm just taking what looks good right now, stuff like Aspect of the Linx, etc
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I haven't played at all this season. Last season CoC cyclone was the way to go, what's the build for tihs season?
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>>157075659
That's a lie, though. Multistrike and melee splash were both around with face breakers. If you wanted to play with desync everywhere you could have used cyclone, too. Old facebreakers played out a lot like earthquake does for leveling this patch. Attack once or twice and watch everything die.
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>>157076197
blade vortex pathfinder featuring 50ex worth of flasks
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>>157076197
>season
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>>157076118
I find it pretty useful as a cheap southpaw item for crit lacerate. Gives some block chance and a good bit of global crit.
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>>157076118
LIFE
Or ES.
Pick one and get 160%+ on it or you're fucked.
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>>157076218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_EcQDOUN9Y
multistrike and melee splash were added in 2013
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>>157076118
>dual wield
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>>157076496
Facebreakers were nerfed after the release of multistrike and melee splash. Ironically they were nerfed for being overpowered in the same patch they released cast on crit.
>>
kripp retired
havoc retired
raiz plays shitcore now
what's even the point of watching streamers anymore
>>
the crow meme is one of the worst things to ever happen to /poeg/

and the users that keep posting it? they reside in another blight upon our general: the discord
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>>157076781
There was never a point to watching someone play video games instead of playing them yourself anon.
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>>157076781
>ever watching streamers
Play the damn game yourself
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>>157076781
our boi pt :3
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>>157076864
crows are unironically very smart animals
they should represent hardcore players, not softcore ones
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>>157076954
t. osaifh
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>>157077064
who
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>>157076954
The smart decision is to not play hardcore just to appease a bunch of memers in an image board, especially given that latency is a thing.
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>>157076771
Oh, they didn't actually nerf facebreaker itself, just the build

my main point still stands though
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>>157076920
Doesn't want to play HC anymore
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>>157010826
>stun immunity or gotta move fast
no regrets
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>>157076781
Did kripp stop playing his new character?

I still don't understand how he can legitimately play hearthstone.
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>>157077336
he makes a living out of it
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>>157077336
you would play hearthstone too if

1) you had all the cards unlocked
2) you made 5 figures a month playing it
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>considering starting a life based character
>"suddenly" drop energy from within
really makes me think
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>>157076317
Okay, nice
Also more retard questions, spoilering for trigger warning The item says it has +crit chance twice, does it mean it has 90% crit chance? Seem ridiculous but idk how to read this shit yet cause newfag

>>157076329
I am actually using Evasion+ES gear and planning to spec in ES, because I read that evasion alone gets fucked at some point, especially melee
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>>157076781
who would have ever watched anyone besides bob, uber, dominion, nugi, havoc, dan when he did bosses
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>>157077210
They did nerf facebreakers themselves. The current highest roll used to be the lowest roll.
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>>157077456
life is objectively superior to ci
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>>157077248
Why not both? I just dont do it since I specced into fortify instead.
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>>157077598
i wanted the extra regen from the fortify node
it's an rf jugg
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>>157077557
and now no one remembers those guys
the career of a poe streamer is short lived and forgettable
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>>157077456
i legit dont understand energy from within, it's what 500 more ES but you can get to 9-10k easily (without discipline) so 500 doesn't mean shit
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>>157077713
Shits rough. Still armor is shit and stun is a non issue if you have a high life pool, somthing RF should have for more regen.
Not like getting stunned matters to you anyway
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>>157077531
It's 90% "increased" crit chance. Which means it increases your default crit chance, not a flat addition. So if you have 5% crit chance, a 90% increase makes your crit chance 9.5%. Crit builds stack up a lot of crit chance; you generally want several power charges (which give 50% crit each), and 300%+ increased crit from the passive tree.
>>
I lost patience with Path of Exile. It's a great game except for a couple of problems.

Firstly when you die you lose XP all the way back to the start of your current level. This is actually kinda an interesting mechanic because it makes you take some care and not simply roll into higher content than you can manage without thinking about it.
However after 1-shotting everything in the map you come to a boss. The bosses in PoE are fucking crazy. If you didn't bring the right style of build to deal with them you're screwed. They also hit way way way harder than anything you've faced in the map. So you go from face rolling everything to getting one shot and you lose all your XP.
Add to this that the loot system is pure RnG. Not only that but the loot levels and specs are RnG so even if you get a great item drop it might have shit stats and slots.

I have no idea how people manage to start from scratch each season and accrue so much currency and gear without running bots.
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>>157077957
saved
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>>157077957
yep, i feel exactly the same way.
trash cant even touch you, but then suddenly bosses are hard as fuck, and they drop fuck all loot.
so the best way to play is just to farm lake all day
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>>157077957
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>>157076781
>anymore
there never was one
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Why is BV so fucking boring?
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>>157077718
if you really want someone no one remembers there's gankstaboo
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>>157077849
I see, thanks
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>>157078216
it allows you to largely ignore game mechanics
it's about as engaging as watching paint dry
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>>157078382
what build are you playing that actually cares about game mechanics
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>>157078382
>>157078216
Fun is subjective. I enjoy speed clearing maps so bv is a blast to play.
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>>157078382
watching paint dry can be an engaging, visceral hobby tho
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>>157078228
ah yes the guy who threatened to blacklist anyone who pissed him off kek
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>>157078508
>melee
>speed clearing maps
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>>157077957
I wish bosses gave tons of exp in late game to compensate for the time to kill and difficulty, as well as just more loot per unique/boss drop.
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>play poe
>start new char
>haul balls to a4n
>die to teryaki
>quit
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What's a good tooltip damage for blast rain? I heard 30k is it's top end..which equates to something like 30kx5?
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>>157076781
NiceBuild is still the only good streamer
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>>157079307
while leveling a character the other day, i got hit by a big pack of white skelly archers in upper for 2.5k
i've played characters that would have died there to a pack of white mobs
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>>157079307
did you forget he existed or were you overconfident and tried to fight him
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>>157079307
>engaging teriyaki in normal
>engaging teriyaki at all if you arent overgeared for the area

justshitterthings
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>>157079469
for the shit directly under your cursor, yes
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>>157080549
>>157080263
>>157080160
this game isn't fun
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>>157081006
so play something else
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>>157081006
no, it's interesting (sometimes), but it's definitely not fun
play some casual touhou games for fun
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>>157080954
YEah, I realize it doesn't reflect ACTUAL dps in many cases, but I watn something to aim for in hc. I'm doing fine, but I feel like ym damage need more work.
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>>157081223
but touhou is not fun
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>>157081223
You can have fun if you like jewing people in trade or for 10 seconds after finding something that is not vendor trash
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>>157081360
as a great scholar once said, "fun things are fun"
you are wrong, sir
good day
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>>157077336
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kripp? more like krapp
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>>157082219
>reddit drama
yeah I'm totes reading that my dude
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>>157082219
i don't agree with this autistic person that thinks kripp would be hot shit, but i do agree with his opinion on why kripp doesn't try to play competitively at anything
kripp works very hard to maintain an image of himself to attract viewers, and getting shit on competitively undermines that
>unfriending krippi
what a jerkoff
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>>157082219
savage

is there any way kripp wouldn't be divorced and out on the street if the hearthstone fad ended
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>>157083034
You mean his waifu is only in for the money?
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1m when? can't wait to play for another 7-14 days before hc turns into ghost town again...
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>>157083176
previously wealthy but now washed up manchildren nerds don't have a good track record for keeping wives

just saying
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>>157083176
Most women are.
They'll never tell you that, they'll say they aren't shallow, but really they are.
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>>157083390
Wait, they're doing another 1 month race after Essence?

Fug, I never play 1 month races.
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>>157083767
>race
>1 month
do..do they know what a race is?
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>>157083392
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>>157084039
This is GGG we're talking about... of course they have no idea.
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>>157009141
>>157076118
>Dropped
Pick them back up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJAS8vaeDc

>this is an elite poe player
>hardcucks

not even once.
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>>157083767
Don't they always? Just be glad we're not getting another year+ of bloodlines.
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>No fun builds to play
>Whatever shitty build you are trying to make eventually degenerates into a better meta build
Just give us more original skills, GGG. You always introduce """new""" skills that doesn't the same shit as old ones but slightly better
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>>157085463
Is he doing this for views or does he really play so much that he can't help but kill his characters stupidly?
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>>157085463
You'd think he's an ''elite'' player considering he plays PoE for 9 hours every single day of every week, but he's still pretty trash and has bitch boys carry him and give him currency.
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>>157085271
stop with that shit

its never, ever funny

if you never heard that word in arpgs you're underage
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>>157085653
show us your hardcore shaper kill :^)
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>>157085572
what skills should they add that truly make a difference
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSmgfJ9GPSc

>this is an elite poe player
>cuckcore

"I-I am a superior videogames player!"

>>157085810
nigga he doesnt even killed a t15 boss or normal atziri
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>>157085739
>stop
Make me retard.
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Do you think they will eventually get rid of melee phys ?
Its a mandatory gem for every melee build, where spells have a choice with all the gems they introduced over the years.

Its like all the spells had to use Spell Damage support, because the skills themselves didnt do enough damage.
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>>157086163
>spells have a choice

what spell builds run neither echo nor controlled destruction
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>>157086342
Those are two supports to choose from.
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>>157086487
what builds don't choose both in their 6L
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>>157085935
pcchild/v/89479015
lol you're good
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>>157073620
Just 1 since that's all /jp/ mentioned.
http://archived.moe/jp/thread/11051756
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>>157086774
Infernal Mantle and Mokou's embrace, off the top of my head.
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>>157086774
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?search=touhou&title=Special:Search&go=Go&searchToken=9rrc1br15l0i9wlv653tzgytr
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>>157086163
melee phys is optional for both wild strike and lightning strike, and not useful for spooky toss (melee weapon, though not melee skill)
it's also unnecessary for elemental builds that aren't conversion builds (you aren't running melee phys with your oro's)
actually all of the the hurr "mandatory gems" concept is retarded
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>playing with friend for first time
>use this https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAQAGA4cFLQW1BiAHmQxzDY0N0RCSES8R1RR1FfYWvxvII9Mj9iaVKgswfDIBMjI2PT7PQzFHfkp9TI5M_02STipRR1HZVUtVhVb6V5dYdVnwWhpbr13yYEFh4mHrYnlirGNDY3BlTWegbIxtbG8ncFJ0oHTtdf12gnfXelN67311fyuEooTZh3aJ04w2jX2Nv49glWaaapsmnaqi2aOKpcumf7CSsNixs7IZtUi8b702vea-p8Mzz3rTftQj1orZhtrB4tXjhOOf53To1utj7UH-uv-T that someone else gave me
>forget specifically what the build's used for
>become increasingly suspicious it's a BV build
I really hope it isn't
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>>157087069
what tipped you off, the suspicious leech nodes?
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>>157085463
2:20 is gold
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>>157087278
the fact that BV works really well with it desu
thinking about rerolling, BV is so fucking boring
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>>157087069
dual wielding life based acrobatics with leech but no vaal pact and like one dot node. I have no idea where that's going.
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>>157086896

Huh, I didn't even know about that ring.
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>>157085881
Problem with PoE is that we have many different tools for the same kind of job. So no matter how differently your special snowflake build works, in the end what counts is how good it performs compared to meta builds in the end game. In PoE's case I think there is no salvation, the game is held back by it's core mechanics. To truly enhance the game's experience, they'd need to rework the majority of their system and we know this will never happen
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>>157087069
>BV
>Attack speed
Probably not
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>>157087362
dummy
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>>157087410
idk, someone here gave me it a few days ago, I'll ask him when/if he gets on
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>>157085612
He's used to streaming for 13-15 hours at a time by drinking 10 red bulls per day.

A few days before that he decided to quit Red Bull cold turkey.

That one session was actually a double RIP, he had already lost the character he was planning to take to 100 to bearers while he was trying to adjust the volume and then lost this farming character which had all his currency invested into enlighten gems that he was leveling.
>>157085653
Ziz doesn't accept handouts.
>>
i was wondering when the blue haired rodent's defense force would arrive
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>>157087360
>Sound of Silence starts playing while Ziz looks over the wreckage of his ripped build

Fucking perfect
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>>157087753
funny, because no one was wondering when you'd show up
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Is there any point in playing this game if you are not a streamer?
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>>157089331

if you actually like it

high chances are that if you were born after 1995 the game itself has zero appeal for you
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I've put like a five hundred jewelers on a piece of shit chest and it still hasn't 6 slotted. Im fucking done.
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>>157089547
>vore ichi costs 350
>spend almost twice that gambling

bonus points if your chest is base level 10 or something retarded
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>>157089547
Is it 20% quality?
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>>157089547
rng keeps jeweler farmers in business
are you trying to destroy their jobs?
>>
varunastra is the best 1h weapon in the game
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>>157089738
Yeah i realized i could've just vorici'd it and be done with it but 6 slotting shit is usually pretty easy so i kept throwing jewelers at it.
>>157089741
Yes.
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>>157089965
whatever you say turdbird
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pretending to be elitecore but actually I'm funposting

t. anon
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>>157090070

something you want to say to my face, hardcuck?

i swear to god ill rip you in half...
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Whats the most bullshit convoluted build i can make

I'm thinking Doomfletch Prism with Lightning Arrow, CoTB, AoF and Cold to Fire so i can convert lightning to fire and get that sweet 330% of physical as added fire damage, which is like 390% with added fire and HoA
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>>157090380
>that hambeast in the mirror
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1-5 wild strike elementalist
6-0 searing bonder trickster
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>>157091235
make elehit work in red maps
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>>157091235
100% phys, 110% lightning, 110% cold, 110% fire
Convert 50% of the phys to lightning via LA. Two CotBs converts the lightning to cold, so now you have 50% phys, 270% cold, 110% fire. CtF and AoF convert the cold to fire, and 50% of the remaining phys into fire. 405% of physical damage as fire damage.

Which is like 320 or so deeps, which isn't entirely terrible.

What I would do, however, is go Burning Arrow, so that you convert everything. Then, to add further convolution, focus on burn damage and ignites and then use prolif.

Use a 6L Vaal Burning Arrow with max AoE for full meme.
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>>157092559
>>157092559
>What I would do, however, is go Burning Arrow, so that you convert everything. Then, to add further convolution, focus on burn damage and ignites and then use prolif.

imma steal that
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>>157091484
I hope you're ready to have fun. Seriously though, wild strike is a blast to play.
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>>157092815
Just warning you now senpai, it's going to be total ass and I doubt it'll get past yellow maps, if it even makes it that far.

I do kinda wanna see Vaal Burning Arrow work though.
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>>157093152
Vaal burning arrow works fine. That's not the problem. The rest of the build is the problem.
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>>157092372
>Ele hit at level 26 it has an average hit of 366
>Fireball at level 20 is 900 something damage
>Oros is 537

What are they even thinking, i thought it had much higher damage, the numbers are so fucked up. Even if it did all three elements at the same time it would be average.
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>>157093152
lioneyes bow+signal fire converting 100% phys

scaling bow phys, dot and ele on tree

gems would be 20qBA+burn chance+rapid decay+added fire+inc burning+conc effect/gmp (bosses or clearing maps)

class/asscencion would be vvitch/ele w/ fire golem and EO oos + 3 curses (vuln+flam+enfeeble)
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>>157093567
Fireball has only recently been able to do damage. It took a lot to get here, too. Ele hit never recovered from the nerfs it got from when ranged attack totems were popular.
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when is the next competitive race?
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>>157094029
>Fireball's long journey to become an actual skill

He got there in the end
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>>157094517
why do you want to know?
you certainly won't get anywhere in it
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>>157094029
>damage increase
>damage increase x2
>damage increase again
>damage increase

Holy shit what is going on
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>>157094585
I like how at the end they're just like fuck it give that shit 50% more damage. Problem solved.
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>>157094890
Flameblast was going on. It could never hold a candle to it, or any other spell that was powerful at the time. But primarily flameblast.
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>>157094890
>>157094950

FUCK YOU ITS A TINY INDIE DEV OPERATING FROM A 2-ROOM BEDROOM
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>>157094890
Fireball is the one skill that they've actually tried to keep up to date with the current power creep levels. The result is a sad string of constant buffs.

That '50% More Damage' at the end there signifies Chris Wilson's spirit being broken.
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>>157094689
um excuse me i've won a few demis
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>>157095354
Poor chris senpai. He is a kami-sama among men
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>>157094689
savage af
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>>157095354
Actually, most triggerable spells like Fireball were inherently were kept in check damage wise because GGG refused for the longest time to put an actual meaningful cooldown on CoC, meaning they couldn't adjust Fireball to usable self-cast dps levels without some CoC babby turning it into a million dps GMP cluster spam.

Now that they nerfed CoC to the ground, they can finally put +50% damage on Fireball/Ice Spear and similar skills. For the most part they still feel garbage to use but it's a start.
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>>157091235
I'm actually working on a similar build, but for spells. One or two CoTB, CtF, AoF, and run a lightning spell. Elementalist can get 25 fire pen for using a lightning skill; I'm using a lightning skill that does fire damage. (Two Calls because I'm planning on taking both the fire+cold and the cold+lightning notables, so going 100% lightning to cold and then 100% cold to fire might be worth the extra ring. Probably not).
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>>157092815
Use blast rain, which is actually good, and also allows full conversion.
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>>157095998
Tala moana, my name is Chris-Sama.

I’m a 27 year old Karui Warrior(Marauder for you exiles). I pay respects to my ancestors and fellow warriors in my maps, and spend my days perfecting my art and farming superior Unique Monsters. (Merveil, Piety, Atziri series)

I train with my Ichimonji every day, this superior weapon can cut clean through steel because it is folded over a thousand times, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my sword license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak Karui fluently, both Kanji and the Ngamakunui dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about Karui history and their warrior code, which I follow 100%

When I get my Karui visa, I am moving to Tokyo to attend a prestigious High School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become a fighter for Studio Lavianga or a game designer!

I own several loincloths, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Karui, so I can fit in easier. I engage my elders and seniors in combat and speak Karui as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.

Wish me luck in Karui!
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>>157095370
yeah, back when you could still be clueless and do well
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first of all i know literally everything about this game
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>>157098013
>I hope I can become a fighter for Studio Lavianga
kek
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>dont bother with all that lab shit I never tried to learn in the first place
>blast through normal lab today
>one shoted with 1600hp in third phase

meh

do you just have to click the things in the previous fights, or do I have to run around the lab clicking others nameless switches so that he doesnt do retarded amounts of damage ?
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>>157098524
read the wiki for more information on izaro fight mechanics

he certainly cannot one-shot 1.6k hp characters in normal
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>>157098524
You have to move out of the way.
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God damnit I can't get brain rattler to work with any good build, warchief Inquisitor was ok but dmg kinda fell off in reds
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>>157098651
he just did, I had 29% phys reduction, 51% eva and 29% block but whatever you say

>>157098660
yeah well third phase is annoying
I was leapslamming between the spikes and had good timings to hit him and avoid the green stuff, not taking that much damage when he decided to leap slam too and I just died.

maybe I had slightly less than full life, but it did at least 1400 for sure.
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>>157098013

I am honored, Great and Honorable Chris-sama. Welcome to the land of exile (this land is an illusion).

I am Scion-chan, a Power from the Third Choir of Respec, but you may call me the ascendant. I can guide you in whatever you need help with while here. Just give me a message or post on my shop thread and I'll respond. (actually nevermind you already screwed up your build)

And again, Welcome.
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>>157098738
you can't get a 500 dps mace to work even with the most broken "melee" skill atm? baffling
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>>157098871
I survived that fight full evasion and 900 life. Took a few hit but no 1 hits. I call shenanigans.
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what is the fucking drop rate on unique maps, fuck
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>>157099759
the drop rate is exactly go buy it from poe.trade how don't you know how this game works yet?
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>>157099879
Im too much of a jew, I used to get these shitty unique maps left and right what happened?
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>>157099967
they only drop from their normal counterparts until you unlock them
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should I go cyclone slayer ?

looks like the ascendancy was made for this skill

what others skills / ascendancy do you feel connect the most ?
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>>157100428
occultist and essence drain

flameblast and pre-nerf elementalist
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>>157100428
Viper Strike and Assassin ;)
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>>157100619

sounds fun
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>>157100619
and then you stare at chimera
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http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Corrupted_Energy

what the fuck is this sHIT
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>>157101208
Great jewel for hybrid/MoM builds desu
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>>157100532
>occultist and essence drain
that's kindof a trap, there are a ton of things about occultist that work against an ED build.
>no real benefit from the extra curse slot
>profane bloom fucks up your contagion spread
>ES is mediocre on ED as there's no way to regen a shitload with ED's garbage regen ratio and virtual inability to leech
>ES is also mediocre because an eventual upgrade to low life doesn't give you much from the extra aura.
That said, if you do want to go ES with ED, Wicked Ward is the only way to pull it off.
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what if all attack skills / spells were available at level 1
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>>157101385
lol
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>>157101385
all of those points are factually wrong

there's a massive difference between vulnerability and vulnerability + temp chains, especially when poison is concerned

a dual curse build has to choose between either, a triple curse build doesn't
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>log in
>join global 1
>bunch of people with 1-5 challenges completed spewing poeg memes
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>>157101973
at least they're having fun and socially interacting

you're a 40 challenge loser that literally nobody cares about
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>>157098915
It's 400 DPs tops, and I more meant using it for the shock and conversion. Was going to do berserker ice crash or eq but even with elemental weakness it seems shitty.
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>>157101973
>joining any global
>interacting at all
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>>157101686
>there's a massive difference between vulnerability and vulnerability + temp chains, especially when poison is concerned
You can get triple curse easily without occultist (whispers of doom + cospri's will), occultist gets you to a second damage curse but there's nothing left worth the mana.
profane bloom absolutely fucks up your contagion spread. i literally clear dried lake faster now without my curses up because then i don't have to deal with profane bloom. i still clear maps with them up because the curses are my secondary defense and profane bloom sometimes obliterates magic packs.
ED isn't better as life because nothing is better as life, but ED gains less from swapping to ES than builds that can actually leech to regen.
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>>157102279
not to mention that vulnerability isn't even that great a curse compared to what other classes get from their first damage curse because you already get an assload of "increased damage taken" from a wither totem and vulnerability's DoT damage doesn't scale with level or quality.
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>>157102279
LL ED is one of the best builds in the game

it's not about reserving an extra aura or anything, it's about applying a 30% more damage multiplier to a spell that scales its DoT with spell damage

you're welcome to do the math for the implications with poison / decay and come back to me and say it's not broken with a straight face

the synergy with Occultist is obvious

you don't even have to take Profane Bloom/Malediction, so it's not like you're locked into taking bad pathing
1x 8% ES node to Forbidden Power
1x 8% ES node to Profane Bloom
Void Beacon
Vile Bastion

that's 8
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>>157102926
this is definitely amongst the builds I'll have to make eventually with all the currency I pile up in perm leagues

I got bored with ED this league, but when the map is packed is extremely satisfying to see everything die so smoothly
>>
Hello, is there a way for my posts to have a signature or something so that my identity is verifiable?
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>>157102926
>LL ED is one of the best builds in the game
because ED is insanely strong and anything with infinite budget that scales with spell damage on the right side of the tree will buy a shav's and go low life
>it's about applying a 30% more damage multiplier to a spell that scales its DoT with spell damage
wow like every build that wants to go low life, but all the other ones care about that mana reservation and also have their secondary poison scale off the lion's share of their damage instead of a base that is less than 1/3 of 1 second of the dps of the actual main portion of their damage.
>You can avoid taking this keystone
or you can pick an ascendancy with more keystones that benefit you. Scion is legitimately a better choice, if you're focused more on easy clear speed you can go slayer for better Contagion AoE and then switch to a better boss killer character if you want to go for the guardians or shaper, playing to the strengths of ED instead of overspending on a build meant for waveclear to try and turn it into a mediocre bosskiller.
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>>157103528
i believe you're lost sir

there are dozens of sites that better suit your needs
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>>157103589
>Scion is legitimately a better choice
ok now you're baiting
im done
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>>157103589
one of the few shaper farmers on EHC is an occultist playing essence drain

which ascendancy do you think would be better for bosses?
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>stygian revenants
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>>157103685
ascendant occultist gets 90% of what you want from actual occultist
ascendant deadeye gives you more than triple what you're missing out on from actual occultist
this is actually one of the few cases where scion can beat a standard ascendancy.
>>157103824
ayyyy
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Is a 10c prophecy worth sealing?
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>>157104203
How much does it cost to seal?
How much value do you get out of doing the prophecy yourself?
If lines 1 + 2 add up to more than 10c, then you should not seal the prophecy.
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>>157104298
It is The Undead Storm.
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>>157104447
i don't think anyone would buy it
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>>157074706
Evasion is absolutely fine. My current assassin is almost entirely evasion. I'm up to T11 now and i've had very few problems.

I'm convinced the evasion hate here is just a spicy meme.
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>>157085463
>logout script
Why even play HC then? Does everyone do this?
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>>157104658
The problem with evasion is that it works great until it doesn't. The pseudo-randomness of it guarantees that you will be hit. In reds that can fuck you hard.
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>>157104930
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>>157074706
>Wanna play crit facebreakers with Rigwald's curse
>realize you need abyssus to do acceptable damage with the multi and flat damage it gives
>LC not an option because the build already requires a fuckton of uniques to the point where capping resists becomes impossible
>Can't block if I want acro
>life on the right side of the tree/on unique gear
Soooo....Iron Reflexes?
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>>157104993
That makes perfect sense, though I suppose I won't find out if that's true for me until I get to the high reds.

With Daresso's, Immortal Call, and Arctic Armour to back up the evasion, i'm assuming I should be fine.
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>>157105224
just make a gud build desu go ci if you have 2
or an aegis block pot gulper
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>>157105405
>go ci
I believe you're missing the point.
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>>157105605
maybe see if the lightning fist is viable and go inq
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>>157106040
>see if the lightning fist is viable
It's LITERALLY a skin transfer.
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>>157099759

>tfw you complete a set of encroaching darkness before getting any unique map drops

ok then
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>>157106250
Unarmed support soon, Exile.
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>>157106275
that's how the majority of people got theirs to start with

the drop rates on them are way too low considering they can only be obtained in one map
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how the fuck am i supposed to handle the mana cost from voidbringers with just flask leech as an inquisitor?
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>>157106614
>we've been waiting for channeled skills for months
>anon over here thinks GGG's going to give us more than that any time soon
>let alone freaking unarmed when well rolled facebreakers already do way too much deeps
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1752644

op op
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>>157108321
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great, i was just thinking i needed something else to worry about while trying to go faster
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still breathin, eh ?
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>>157108321
>Area contains an extra Strongbox, Strongboxes in Area are Corrupted, Strongboxes in Area are at least Rare Rarity
Monstrous treasure price doubling in 3... 2... 1...
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The new endgame map layout kind of looks like the map from Muramasa. Doesn't it?
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>>157108413
>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1752644

fuck you those are great, much more interesting than before

thank you Chris I will buy a supporter pack
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>>157109031
shill
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>>157109031
>much more interesting than before

which is more of a testament to how bad they were at launch
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>>157109008
which in turns looks a lot like every decorative map of the period, which the poe atlas map is trying to look like
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Is there any fun memebuilds that abuse fire damage?
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>>157108704
>That anon that blew two of them in low tier maps
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>>157109567
crit pizza sticks
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>>157109567
ele hit pyre AoF
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>>157077336
thousands of dollars every month that's how
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So, do I just take as many elemental shield nodes as possible, then CI and that's all? Is there something I'm missing?
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>>157111805
no thats literally it
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>>157109567
i've got a hipster build but i'm keeping it under wraps
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>>157111805
>elemental shield
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yyAgk9der4
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Do you agree with this list, /poeg/?

>Good
Chill of Corrption
Clear Mind
Cold Steel
Emperor's Mastery
Emperor's Wit
Energy from Within
Fireborn
Grand Spectrum (Blue)
Grand Spectrum (Green)
Inspired Learning
Intuitive Leap
Izaro's Turmoil
Lioneye's Fall
Mantra of Flames
Rolling Flames
Sacrificial Harvest
Spirit Guards
Unending Hunger
Vaal Sentencing
Volley Fire

>Neutral
Apparitions
Army of Bones
Assassin's Haste
Atziri's Reign
Brawn
Brute Force Solution
Careful Planning
Cheap Construction
Combustibles
Conqueror's Potency
Conqueror's Longetivity
Corrupted Energy
Efficient Training
Emperor's Cunning
Emperor's Might
Fertile Mind
Fevered Mind
Fluid Motion
Fortified Legion
Hair Trigger
Hidden Potential
Hungry Abyss
Inertia
Martial Artistry
Pacifism
Poacher's Aim
Rain of Splinters
Reckless Defence
Static Electricity
Unstable Payload
Warlord's Reach
Winter's Bounty

>Bad
Anatomical Knowledge
Ancient Waystones
Assassin's Haste
Brittle Barrier
Coated Shrapnel
Conqeror's Longetivity
Dead Reckoning
Eldritch Knowledge
Energised Armour
Fragile Bloom
Fragility
Grand Spectrum (Red)
Growing Agony
Healthy Mind
Hotfooted
Malicious Intent
Might in All Forms
Mutated Growth
Pitch Darkness
Powerlessness
Pugilist
Rapid Expansion
Self-Flagellation
Shattered Chains
Spire of Stone
Spirited Response
Steel Spirit
Survival Instincts
Survival Secrets
Survival Skills
The Vigil
Weight of Sin
Weight of the Empire
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>>157112347
*energy
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>>157108321
coolbeans
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>>157112841
what is this
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>>157113187
A list of all the jewels in the game, based on whether they are good (usable and viable), neutral (sort of usable, ie niche), or bad (unusable).
>>
Was anyone else hoping that tora would be ranger's canon gf instead of being yet another slut for duelist cock?
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>>157112841
>healthy mind
>unusable

but i'm using it...
>>
>>157113347
Where are you reading all that LORE?
>>
>>157113562
If you ask Tora about Vagan she says she wants his sweaty cock. Also Duelist is Piety's husbando and the same for Daresso and Meervil
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>>157113347
All woman (except ranger) want Duelist dick.
>>
>>157113464
For what? Why would you use Healthy Mind?
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>>157105171
does wilson not realize how fucked it is that closing out the game is considered a legitimate strategy

You might as well just have a button that says "Instantly go back to town" if that's the fucking case. Absolutely abhorrent.
>>
>>157113858
he doesnt care. he just says stuff. hi.
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>>157113819
poeurl.com/OiU

in the witch jewel socket

:^)
>>
>>157113858
YEAH BUT YOU HAVE TO SET UP A KEYBIND TO DO IT

ITS SO HARD BRUHHHHH
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>>157114000
>Guardian
>>
>>157113704
Well, I hope you find a worthy waifu someday.
>>
>>157113819
There's mana support builds that clear endgame content
>>
guys
healthy mind + mind over matter
>>
>>157114268
>support builds that clear endgame content
you mean they beg their masters to clear endgame content for them
>>
>>157114343
>masters

friends!
>>
>>157114343
no, the support build allows you to get 30k+ es on your DPS.
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Hey rip webm poster bro, do you have the one with the guy that mistakes his logout macro with the macro he used to spam the trade channels to sell an item? He sits there for like 10 seconds getting wailed on my mobs until he finally dies, unable to log out?
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We posting webms?
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>>157114867
>almost rip
>health never drops below 60%
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1-5 Try to make ice spear work again

6-0
Wait for overwatch halloween thingy
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>>157114746
that is thegreatone

a poe god
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>>157114993
"almost rip" is just any scary situation that I saved. I posted that one because it was interesting, most of my other "almost rips" are me getting really low off of my own stupidity.
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>>157115071
How are you having problems with making ice spear work? It works the same now as it did a few years back.
>>
>>157115356
>rip.webm
>not louis_ck_gets_cucked_by_desync.webm
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>>157115478
Good luck trying to sustain its mana costs now
>>
>>157113858
That would be convenient. Suggest he add it to the top right.
>>
Does Iron Grip works with Doomfletch Prism?
>>
What's a fun bow build that isn't CA?
>>
>>157116609
CI trap CA
>>
>>157116609
if you don't like tornado shot or lightning arrow then bows probably aren't for you
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>>157114746
not him, but yes
>>
>>157117269
Truly the greatest RIP in poe history
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>>157116609
tornado shot (reach or death's opus)
point blank ice shot w/ nuro's harp
burning arrow (elementalist)
barrage (reach or rare + volley fire jewels)
rain of arrows w/ blast rain for single target
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>>157117537
agreed
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>>157117269
>the panic on his face

Never not funny
>>
>>157117801
ikr
couldn't have happened to a bigger tool either
>>
>>157117269
death to all trade spammers
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>>157118032
DEATH TO SIN
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>>157117269
why cant he quit lol
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>>157118414
trade macro
>>
reminder that shiggyd is alive playing viper strike and you all died on your ci pathfinder bv characters
>>
Rate my starter build for the next league:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAJuNCC5_ln-AN0ztg59t_xDHnRmOnrcAXvFt034knX1173piWv66RA32o8jwFSAs6S2DhrMA7hm0Kk2-pz8nR-Kj72VNSsgi4lSCvTZuqqQ5R3618oTZNZKplP6P2L14eodqTeP-CqknplfyRbc-hO864TGeg8zawTwtLlN07YNfxq7TbwUtxPauPnrvr6dyqWebHM6sqvcy5FFBdCtQWfPqGHzZl3lQRySbDc0aOPjrdqwJlu8O903-VJBVZFLz3RRxz345DhQgJy_Bo04yaGXZfF8_4mEX4YIHMHcm-Fn-E0w=

Plan is to use a 5-link Hezmanas + Belly/Kaom's and run lab. For auras I'll go withHatred and Enfeeble.
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>>157119248
>>157119248
>>157119248
>>157119248
new map
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>>157115356
>>157115245
>>157105171
This is why I can't take Hard cucks seriously. This game's balanced is fucked, bad programming, design choices, and servers kill you more than your own mistakes. And as far as buffing goes, they're incompetent.

For example, armor is still mostly useless, and melee does lolnodamage, while spells still have an easy as fuck time getting both damage and survivability.

So surviving comes down to
1. pick a flavor of the month broken build
2.have a logout macro
2.pray
>>
Have you guys tried Hairy Boncrunchers ( Enduring Cry + Cleave Beasts) as spectres ? With Victarios giving them frenzy charges and them being basically invicible due to 45 % physical resist from end charges they seem pretty damn good to me.

Also, how strong is soul eater on spectrees ? Does it make a notceable difference?
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