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>Atlas of Worlds information
general: https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds
atlas mechanics: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099
>2.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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>>156884198
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.
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>>156882031
these used to be decent pre-2.0
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things that don't belong in poeg:

>shitcrows
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>EHP
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>>156884385
see
>>156884262
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>>156884446
see
>>156884385
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who are you quoting
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Last Man Standing, The Fiend and Daresso's Passion amulet from the same Monstrous Treasure map, feelsgoodman
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whenever I need a quick laugh at how bad Scion is, I just reread her Saboteur notable
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>>156884878
Yeah ascendancies were a terrible idea in their current form.
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>>156884878
She's so bad they didn't even both drawing a portrait for her ascendancy tree.
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>>156884878
that doesn't seem awful... just kind of underwhelming like everything else.
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Ascendancy was a mistake
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>>156885096
here's a few notables other classes get for 2 points:

Shaper of Desolation
Mistress of Sacrifice
Wicked Ward
Swift Killer
Far Shot
Master Herbalist
Bane of Legends
Gratuitous Violence
Unstoppable
War Bringer
Instruments of Virtue

here's what Scion can get with 3 points:
20 dex 20 int 1 point
20% chance to create a smoke cloud when you place a mine
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>>156885096
It's mindbogglingly terrible.
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>>156885503
>>156885675
>bloo bloo trappers can't get much increased damage
>this potential 90% increased damage is useless
are you retarded? you just made the scion's passive look better.
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>>156885830
why'd you quote me

i don't know anyone who can defend 20% chance to create a smoke cloud when you place a mine as a legit 3-point ascendancy notable power

seems more like a way for GGG to mock scion players
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>>156885453
it seems like GGG don't know what they want their game to be. They just give players buffs by throwing shit at a wall, then watch streams and nerf their builds and call it a job done well
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJAS8vaeDc&t=2m20s
literally
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>>156815459
>free
>>156820390
>free
>>156824310
>free
>>156845590
>free
>>156849583
>free
>>156849786
>FREE
>>156850975
>free
>>156851015
>free
>>156854005
>free
>>156854057
>free
>>156863137
>free
>>156883632
>free
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>>156885830
>this potential 90% increased damage is useless
It's not a "potential" 90% increase. That was calculated using gems that nerf your damage far more than the increase outweights it. Likely you're playing cluster mines if you want this buff.
Then you're dealing with 8 (+ whatever you get on the tree, not many usually) total traps potentially placed at any time. That's 45% damage.
If you look at Saboteur and the preceeding Trap and mine damage node it grants you 44% damage and an additional trap.

When we're talking limited increased damage we're not talking the stuff you get during early levels or on the tree. We're talking about mods on gear for instance. Spells get a ton of spelldamage/elemental damage on wands. Same with scepters. Traps can't always gain from those same stats. And the situations where you can (bladefall traps for instance) are often situations where the elemental penetration doesn't really give you anything.
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>>156885984
Because you ignored literally 75% of the passive you fucking moron. That's like saying Cruel Preparation sucks because you should be able to cap your resists without it, almost like saying Chaos Inoculation sucks because all it does is lower your life to 1 point with no other conceivable upsides.
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When does mapping become fun?
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>>156886446
t17
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>>156886083
>distracted by TV
Better than most rips tbf.

I wish there were more near-rip videos. Far better.
Also shows you how shitty the game is when you logout
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>>156886446
Mapping is just more of the same that you've experienced to get to that point. If you don't enjoy playing the game then you won't enjoy mapping. You should probably find another game to play if you don't like playing this one.
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How do map drops work? I thought you could only get maps one tier higher than the one you're in, but I just got a T11 from a T9.
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It's clear Scion was an afterthought in ascendancy.
They designed all the other classes first since they needed scion to follow them thematically. They then couldn't really give her any of the cool perks this class system offers because they were all designed in isolation. So she gets weaker/chance based versions that don't work reliably and don't give you close to the same boost.

Imo they should design her to have completely unique specs for each of the classes. So it can fit thematically with say slayer without being related to the stats slayer gives.
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>>156886562
>>156886083
i wish timestamps worked with embed
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>>156886620
If you've unlocked a map (completed the boss of the map. With the bonus criteria or not) you can unlock that tier. Bosses in a map can drop map tier +2. Any other monster can only drop +1 (or less of course).
>>156886959
They do. For 4chanx anyway.
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>>156887064
Ah, it was a boss drop.
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>>156886882
scion is a meme
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>>156887064
>Any other monster can only drop +1 (or less of course).
white mobs can only get to +0
blue and yellow mobs can go +1
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>>156887451
I am a meme
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>>156887521
That's just itemlevel m8. Map drops are seperate.
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Nice. Mathil is on.
Time to sexually harass this cute boy.
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I don't understand all the ES stacking CI builds.

I started one but even with most of the ES nodes I still only have about as much ES as I would have had life at the point where I am (mid-late Cruel).

And yet in chat I hear people talking about how they have 13k ES and other even more stupid numbers.

Am I doing something wrong? Am I being rused?

Can someone explain how ES/CI works out to be better than life?
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>>156888452

Also people claiming to be nearly invincible running a ES/CI build with Ghost Reaver/Vaal Pact.

Considering even giving up a lot of other things you can only get like 1.2% lifesteal while still getting most of the ES nodes, what on earth are they talking about?
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>>156888004
there's a 15% more ES node behind CI and es nodes are generally stronger than life nodes with intelligence also giving %ES

for the same investment, a life build might get 7k life when a CI build will get 10k+
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>>156888452
Lots of ES on gear. Just look at some streamers profiles. See their totals and where they get their ES.
>>156888634
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vessel_of_Vinktar_(Physical_Damage_Converted_to_Lightning_Damage)
For instance. There's plenty of ways to gain a lot of leech though.
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>>156888634
Use warlord's mark or the life leech gem each of these grant 2% life leech without point investment, 4% instant life leech is pretty strong.
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i think i might do an ice spear build poeg, is it good?
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>>156889429
I tried it as a starter this league.
Don't go scion.
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>>156889429

You will create the build, at which point you will already be pushing back those doubts and negative thoughts about that terrible skill gem.

Planning complete and you prepared to force yourself to like the build through sheer boredom and desire to play PoE. From the character creation you already know you aren't going to like this.

You get through Cruel difficulty telling yourself "hey this isn't so bad!" but deep down you know its more generic conveyor belt trash shit build that you are force feeding your willing throat like the some kind of retard.

If you make it past Merciless, you will force yourself to login for a second play session only to finally bite the bullet and admit the build is utter shit.

Rinse and repeat the above several times a year in the hopes of finding a good build you like, knowing deep down you never will because this game is terrible.
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>>156888452
>mid-late Cruel
top kek
you don't go CI that early, the gear to make it worthwhile doesn't exist yet.

I have about +1230 ES total on all my gear summed together because every rare has +flat and +local % rolls that multiply together to stupid values. If I were health I could only get like +700-800 at a reasonable price because all they can get is a single flat health roll

>http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shields#Energy_Shield_Shields_.28Intelligence.29
>Titanium Spirit Shield: 84 ES
>http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_int_shield_modifiers
>+ max ES (local): 107-135
>%increased ES (local): 121-132
>+20% quality
maximum possible ES: (84 + 135) * (1 + 1.32 + 0.2) = 551.88
>+ max life: 100-109
maximum possible life: 109, literally less than 1/5 the potential Energy Shield.

And you can get more increased ES from the tree very easily if you start on the right side, AND chaos inoculation hides a 15% more ES node behind it which health can only dream of. At that point there's no reason to have a life pool at all.

That said, it's quadratically more difficult to get 2 specific prefixes on gear than just one, so proper ES gear more rare, more in-demand, and thus more expensive than life.
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>>156889429
Why don't you try and find for yourself?
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>>156889749
Is this game really that bad?
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>>156889831
>>156888714
>>156889069

Thanks guys. I think I get it now.
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>>156890004
No it's not. He's just bad at the game and doesn't know how to make a build work.

But you won't either. So his experience is accurate for a new player.
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>>156885394
Dried Lake?
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>>156890191
please inform us of how to make builds work sensei
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>>156890004
It's pretty bad but not as bad as he says, and there's certainly no point in not trying it even if you do come to his same conclusion. The game has huge balancing flaws and issues once you get into and realise them quick enough.
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>>156890312
You have to understand the flaws and what makes the build what it currently is.
It's not complicated.
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>>156890463
>You have to understand the flaws

how do you just "make a build work" when the build itself has too many flaws to overcome
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>>156890690
Well you can't make every build work.
And if you say that it has too many flaws to overcome. Then axiomatically you can't make it work obviously.
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>>156886279
>tfw you've never been freeposted
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why doesn't GGG give rewards for first 100 in a new league? or for getting 40 challenges? they could give alt art demis
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>people in standard have been asking to buy this ring for 1c at least 10 times now
Fucking why? It's so bad.
Why not just alch some random ring?
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>>156887550
forgot your cat
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>>156891171
It's just 1c you autist
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>>156891171
they are trying to meet something's dex requirements and 1c is nothing
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>>156890773
>Well you can't make every build work
do you see the problem with
>>156890191
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>>156891046
demis are supposed to award a player's skill and mastery of the game, not whichever loser can play the most with his portable support cuck
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>>156891554
No there's no problem with that post. He didn't suggest an unplayable build. He was talking about the game in general. And apparently he is so bad he can't find a single workable build in years.
I'm sure its an exaggeration.
Here: >>156890690 >>156890773
The skill being talked about is literally unplayable to a decent degree because that's what he said was the case. There's no arguing.
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there isn't a single skill primarily designed for damage that isn't end game viable with 110 passives and infinite currency
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>Dual Axe build
Can someone take a look at my tree and insult me for playing shitcore ?
I would appreciate advice in addition to your insult
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQAAF85ivDEgulGsKu-p2VNvTZHfmBBY3ALwVeXQzEJWNun2sF07QUteu8uU9NvhO8hYMGLgUE17zrtdPEppUCgouoS4SyUYhdr1KrNhNkB3HfjqW55aMEEXz8UIO8OUEfkUWebrj7Grgthr2xo8vAfogAEs8BmPAXvfJd5KCqLT1n-MHfiYcGjE0wm-BfhTjJkUmhl892Rzrvt-OvqGHasz36tjdlhhVLAGngNtfJttKgHZ4A1kti9_gryRTrh_o9N43vUxYp8uzrYJy-QVQGRLdKbavcyfNlvO4lxhJTsXGXwmy11TqaNGNsaONP8

Which ascendancy would you choose, gladiator or champion ?
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>>156886446
When you get like 75% Atlas completion and can chain reds forever.
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goy
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>>156892196
>dual axe
why?
>that hideous pathing from marauder to templar
why? are those 10 int/dex nodes that valuable? you can can connect from RT to Devotion much faster, then connect to Amplify from there
>Hatchet Master
lol
no comment
>189% life
shitcore life but whatever

>Which ascendancy would you choose, gladiator or champion ?
don't care
shit build shit tree
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>>156892558
Nice packsize fag
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>yfw AN END UNDONE
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>Vaal Temple rotation
>Dude has a "Single Portal" sextant mod
>It functions similarly to Zana's "Don't die or leave the map" modifier, but instead of CREATING PORTALS FOR ALL PARTY MEMBERS it only creates them for players currently in the instance. A problem that Zana had previously, but had been fixed
Sausage, GGG
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>>156893064
>dual axe
i got a nice gem for a dual axe memer, that's pretty much the only reason
>hideous pathing
i am retarded
>hatchet master
would you take splitting strikes ?
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>>156892196
>>156893857
I knew you looked familiar >>156877847
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reminder that with some modest flask effectiveness and aura nodes, and smart shield choice that you can survive a shaper ball with only 5.5k life
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>>156893857
i'd pick vitality void lmao
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>>156893740
wew

At least they're being overhauled soon. Sextants are a fucking mess and they should have been delayed given the state that they're in.
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>>156894102
reminder that shaper fires more than one ball at a time
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>>156894168
I'm actually considering picking vitality void in a build of mine
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>>156894240
They're a detriment more than anything. Wow, you're telling me I can get an invasion mob in the map, but risk bricking every single item from strongboxes, or limiting myself to one portal? SIGN ME UP
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>>156894329
reminder that you can potion between balls
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what kind of stats do I need to go to Merc and Uber Lab?
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>>156893106
I haven't seen that gif in a while. Do you have the lightning warp totems gif?
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>>156894443
reminder that flasks have limited uses
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>>156894469
You're just going to die to a % base layered trap. Might as well just forget ascendancies and pick Scion.
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>>156894620
on shit builds
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>>156894672
>Might as well just forget ascendancies and pick Scion.
this guy knows what he's talking about
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>>15689462
reminder that when you run out of life you respawn in shitcore where you belong
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>>156894428
The extra packs are pretty nice, but yeah, at the moment there's literally no point in using them because they're JUST tier.

Save them for the buff.
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>>156894620
>GULPFINDER

Welcome to the machine
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>>156894805
didn't realize all non bv/harvest builds were shit thanks for the heads up
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>>156848957 here
>do T15 with 54% packsize
>get fuck all for map drops
kill me
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>>156894054
You got me anon.
>>156894168
It's not like i didn't think about picking it up but like a true shitcrow i chose damage over survivability.
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>>156895098
The best defense is a good offense
t. proud shitcrow
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OY VEY
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>running a zana mission
>can't die or leave the map
>easy enough for the first two exiles
>third one blindsides me by summoning a bear trap totem on my face
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>>156895658
What would be the best way to maximize jews expenditure? I'm trying to get rid of my surplus of jews as efficiently as possible
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>>156885675
>scepter
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>>156895658
>jew is not an offensive phrase
Time to gentrify Judaism. They must heretofore refer to themselves as People of Choseness.
I'm reminder of people that report Jews with Jew in their Internet handles.
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>Frozen Spiker's don't release their spikes on death

Neat
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why is Grace so perfect
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>>156896459
Try shattering a first stage crab.
Cold damage master race.
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>>156896459
>>156896724
and then you find a 80% monster cold resistance EE 100% chance to avoid status ailments enfeeble monster life map
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>>156896895
You could have avoided it for one chaos. RIP
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>>156896724
if you shatter the first stage crab, do you lose out on experience from killing the second stage?
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>>156897009
you reroll it into 80% monster cold resistance EE 100% chance to avoid status ailments temporal chains monster life map
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>>156897115
You forgot reflect
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>>156897115
That's more like it.
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is frost wall ded ?
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it's just sleeping
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>>156897661
You can still use it to PK people.
I suggest using it on one of those "support looking for group" players with shav's.
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anyone wanna map together
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>>156897898
sure. name and league?
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>>156898092
It exists for me to ask stupid questions about my shitcrow builds
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Discipline, Purity of Ice, Herald of Ice, and Clarity
Am I missing any important auras for Fireball?
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>>156898572
Vitality
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>Find the perfect item to cap your resists
>Message seller
>This character is not logged in
WHERE IS MY AUCTION HOUSE CHRIS
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>>156898668
Scrapping Clarity and using Skyforth's and Conqueror's Efficiency I'm now able to run Vitality, but I have to be a cast on stun build.
Is Cast on Stun good with Fireball?
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>>156893106
are those... portal spell totems?
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>>156898947
yeah
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>>156898947
use something like enfeeble vortex summon skeletons for memes in the cast on stun
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>>156898991
Best Hierophant build.
The second best Hierophant build involves going Scion and clever headgear.
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>>156899576
Scion is such a qt3.14
Why didn't they use that for her portrait
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>"I have twice the effective EHP as you" - CI pathfinder moments before I'm booted from a rotation due to being a "liability"
215% as a shadow with jewels, and it's still not enough. I wish I hadn't fallen for the life meme
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>>156898991
Yeah. If you want maximum portals I wouldn't recommend a portal build, though.
You're going to want trap, multi trap, and cluster trap linked to your portals with the trap cdr reduction passives and a instant detonate belt. You'll want to pair that with cast on crit portal, cast when stunned portal, and cast on death portal. I mean, shit, if you really wanted to you could use a portal spell totem but I don't see the point in it. Some say it's a waste because of the one portal limit. I say follow your dreams.
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I'm booting up PoE
haven't played in a day, was starting to itch
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>>156899965
Would it theoretically be possible to grief by putting portals in the middle of mob packs so party members accidentally click on them?
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>>156899934
stop making shit up

no one would kick you for having lower life

you either provided zero dps and zero support, or were just leeching the rotation
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>>156900246
if you played with a meleefag or vb shitter, sure
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ek is dead

shame, such a simple a well designed skill
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>>156900968
>projectile skill with no range
>well designed
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>>156900621
They asked how much my dps was in my hideout, then informed me they had twice as much ehp, and dps.

My tooltip DPS comes from the charges I generate, so yeah, of course my DPS was going to be half of theirs in the hideout with just my auras active.

Context was a vaal temple rotation; they didn't even give me a chance.
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>>156901032
if you can't wrap your head around the games mechanics then every skill will be bad
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The bliss of even numbers.
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>We are running a sale on currency tabs
>microtransactions shop crashes
>server crashes
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Is it too late in the league to start a new character?
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>>156901450
split arrow is a simple and well-designed skill

ek is a mess
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>>156901704
no i just made a new one
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>>156901704
Not really, as long as you have some currency already. I just started a VRF meme character.
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>>156901704
it's never too late to get good
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>>156901796
one is a spell and one is not a spell
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>>156901409
they dont care if you die. they only care if you slow shit down, which means having no dps

if you gave inaccurate dps estimations then thats on you
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best single target non vaal spell in the game?
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>>156901940
what's u're point
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What's the PoE equivalent of lightning fury amazon?
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>>156902014
you don't scale them the same way
nevermind the cast time / aps diffenerce
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>>156902098
dual hyaons fury cleave

its shit
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Texas server unstable as fuck right now
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>>156902787
someone messing with it?
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>>156902941
IDK, but I got booted to login twice in the last five minutes
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>>156902154
that has nothing to do with the design
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Can i use any armor as cosmetic or just shitty store stuff?
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>>156903138
skin transfer
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>>156903017
>>156902787
You think people found another dupe? They usually fuck up the servers.
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>play marauder after taking a break for months
>easy mode earthquake
>want to play templar
>see frostbolt
>100% chance to pen
>slow as fuck
>think a build can work
>no build without vortex
>want to go mace/board
>no new builds
>old builds never get updated
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>>156903045
if you don't know how to scale it to work it's your problem and not he skills
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I loved my first cycloner this league, made 5 more characters since then, but nothing beats the enjoyment of diving into a new league, picking a class semi randomly without planning anything,( avoided duelist because slayer ) then just grinding the deeps ladder.
none of the others characters I can make during a league give me the same feeling

new league when
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>>156903768
idiot
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>>156903714
>Shitter
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>>156903935
nice argument
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>>156903714
Crit frostbolt totems with a ton of cast speed is pretty fun. Alternatively you can self cast with proj speed stacked and using a snakepit or two. Shadow for more base crit or ranger for for an additional projectile. The damage on frost bolt is actually insane and the clears are pretty great when you have enough proj speed and crit.
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>>156904129
NEVER reply to him again
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What's the lore explanation for the currency items? What the fuck is a chaos orb and why does it look like matroshka dolls in the form of golden heads?
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>>156904074
>haven't played for months
>don't know much about new skills
>know enough about melee builds to make earthquake work
>don't know as much about magic
>want to follow a build for magic
>can't find anything simple
>shitter
shitter because i want to learn? ok then

>>156904289
I only touched totem builds once or twice, but I can see it working.I just wanted something simple because I almost always do melee builds and while I do well with them, they're getting kinda boring to me.
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What's the fastest way to farm Orbs of Fusing?
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"help us, help you."

literally wanna punch this NPC bros hold me
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>>156905410
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Loyalty
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>>156905405
blade vortex is the simplest you can get. I also think they're fun to play if only because of how fast they clear and because the shattering sound effect is godly.
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>>156905125
Shit's fucked and there's no real money
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:^)
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>>156905942
>5k hp in a gorge

shitcrow
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>>156905835
there's gold everywhere in the game. nobody uses it though. Instead, people are using small orbs that look like rocks with weird symbols and shit. Must be the air in Wraeclast or something.
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>>>156905942
>No quantity
lmao
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>>156906024
>>156906063
>>156905942
:^(
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>>156906040
Probably because these strange objects actually have magical properties, and gold is just a shiny coin
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>>156906109
are you even real with that filter right now
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>>156901546
so satisfying
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>>156906024
To be fair, that's a zana gorge
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>>156906339
it was level 80 :^)
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>>156906212
question is, how exactly do these orbs work? you can't just squeeze a chaos orb onto a knife and that shit just works.
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>>156906040
well the orbs are useful

you could probably use an alteration to turn a bark bread of malnutrition into an gastronomers bread of satiety
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>>156906040
gold doesn't keep you alive in Wraeclast
improved items do
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when the fuck is ggg going to make map stash tabs
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>>156906109
Don't ever open diviners boxes without raw and % extra quantities. The other quantity rolls are bullshit.
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>>156906109
I'm seeing.... Trash. Wait, there's a Void card in there, go turn that in :^)
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I like arc as a skill because it auto aims but how would you make build for it? Crit? Witch? CI is probably better. Shadow?
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>>156907589
inquisitor crit arc
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>starting on maps
>find a t4 with +75% quant and +43% rarity
>desperately want to corrupt that shit but i know it's going to be a waste on such a low-tier map
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if i see a fucking shitcorer in real life i swear to god...
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>>156907589
>>156908424
inquisitor definitely. it also works well as a skill for a herald of ice build
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>>156908484
75 iiq and 40 iir isn't going to amount to shit.
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>>156908547
don't hit me i'm sorry
I'M SORRY
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>>156908424
reminder that i invented this build here in poeg when ascendancies were shown
send your royalty cheques to anon@thisthread
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>>156906212
How are orbs applied to items?
Do you just smash them together?
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>>156905731
I only see 1 build on the forums for it and i'm not too sure how to start since i've never used blade vortex. The thread isn't too comprehensive, it just says do this, do that, but it doesn't explain anything. Like I said I really don't do magic much, so I don't know how to build compared to melee.
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>>156908938
actually, the first person to make crit arc popular was foxtactics. inquisitor is a very obvious step forward when you factor in ascendancies

are you foxtactics?
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>>156909205
no i'm not a faggot that plays witch arc out of a hat
nice try streamfag
all royalty cheques to anon@thisthread
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>>156908556
But inquisitor can't take CI very well? Mind showing me a tree for Templar? Or is ci not needed.
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I heard this is the place to get (you)s. Can I get some? BV PF, Free, here is my build, streamer A > streamer B, hardcuck, shitcrow, anime, couple of dudes legit helpful. Does that cover it?
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>>156909450
you
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how do I into mjollner?
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heard wrong
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>>156909450
if you want help contact support@ggg
they get paid to pretend to care about you
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>>156909431
inquisitor paths to CI just fine

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAUAAPndi4zAmgmq2fzAZkVHMtHr7nyDES0snAVCQZbQ9a6zTLMtHx1PNbmnKxFQbRnZWxslS67pApUgwfOio3_GD8Q7fLjKwcXsGCy_FdeGrlZj0B_v6yBuUDA7DREPfq-NGeAS2V_djKyY99eESFxrw23i9wFvi3qP-uv1ZJ3yHcMJuZPQ0F9q8NVJURGWlS4HHg5IXfIqC3BSidOMNisKES9HBvLhY0Mkiw-rFr_mgcu9B2PrY48aHNwqOMM6RX4OXGr6m7WExZMn74j5N9fPSbG-iqEvuJMo-lfJDXw=

made this tree super quick, so look over it but it's super simple
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>>156909431
>But inquisitor can't take CI very well?
how did you get this opinion
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>>156909920
Thanks, I'm still not at full mast though. another?

>>156910001
I forgot about call your isp, thanks, now give another (you)
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>>156910085
forgot arcane vision, like i said i just slapped it together but it gives you an idea of the pathing
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>>156910161
Light of divinity is surrounded by life and aoe nodes assuming you start out. Your have to take a couple into nodes to go to those close elements and spell notables and shadows crit nodes are much farther as well as CI
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>>156909431
here, i cleaned it up a little bit

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAUAAAVCBx4HYwmqDXwOSA5cD6sPxBEPES0RLxFQEZYV1xa_GyUc3B1PIG4i9CSLKPoqCyo4KwosnCy_LR8y0TW5Ow07fEGWRUdFfkcGSVFJsUuuTLNQMFZjV8lca1yKXfJfamNDZJ1q-mwLbRlwUnyDfq9_xoRIhMWGronTi4yMNo0ZjxqP-pMnlS6btaEvoqOnK6yYrrO4k7jKuZO-isBmwJrDCcM6w23LvdAf0NDQ9dfP2VvZX9n83YzgEuaB6QLrY-vu6_XsGO-I7-vw1fId8uH31_k3-d0=
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>>156910407
>https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAUAAAVCBx4HYwmqDXwOSA5cD6sPxBEPES0RLxFQEZYV1xa_GyUc3B1PIG4i9CSLKPoqCyo4KwosnCy_LR8y0TW5Ow07fEGWRUdFfkcGSVFJsUuuTLNQMFZjV8lca1yKXfJfamNDZJ1q-mwLbRlwUnyDfq9_xoRIhMWGronTi4yMNo0ZjxqP-pMnlS6btaEvoqOnK6yYrrO4k7jKuZO-isBmwJrDCcM6w23LvdAf0NDQ9dfP2VvZX9n83YzgEuaB6QLrY-vu6_XsGO-I7-vw1fId8uH31_k3-d0=
good tree, just drop that ES node underneath nullification (shadow ES/eva node) since you have 6%s available elsewhere
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>>156910407
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAUAAAVCCaoNfA5cD8QRDxEvEVAV1xmKGo8bJRzcHRQdTyBuKgsqOCpTKwosnCymLL8tHzLRNAo1uTdmO3xBlkVHRX5GcUlRSbFLrkyzUDBQQlM1VmNca13yXypfal-wavptGW-ecFJwu3RVdwd_xoMJhEiExYauhxOJ04uMjDaOZI8aj0aP-pDWkyeVIJuhm7WcpKEvoqOnCKcrrJius7JwtAy2-rjKuZO-isBmwJrBxcHzwwnDOsNtykrK09Af0NDQ9dfP2VvZ_Nte6QLquuvu6_XsGO-I7-vw1fId9tr3pvfX-Tf53fsJ
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>tfw no gf that sits on your lap while she plays poe
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>>156911251
>>156910980
>>156910407
did not click any of these viruses
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>>156912242
This poster knows what he's talking about.
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>>156908484
Rarity means nothing

The only thing you care about is Packsize x IIQ.
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>>156908484
>no packsize
dropped
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>>156908484
Dumb dotard
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>>156908484
you should just save all of your currency
so you can send another unused 1200 chaos to permanent hardcore
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>>156912242
PoE is already filled with virus, I go out and find little boys buying snacks and inject my meat virus. 100% chance I have bummed you all.
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1-3 watch league of legends
4-6 level new character
7-9 play existing character
0 buy shenzen i/o
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>>156913865
whatchu gonna make? wanna level together?
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Why aren't there NEW skills to make new builds?
Literally the same skill builds from like two leagues in a row

No, not this 3 (three) fucking "new" channeled skills they're gonna be shit
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>>156914071
>no more new skills
>no more separate HC leagues
>no more race seasons
>no more tree changes
>no more temp leagues

dead game desu
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1-3 stalk and murder rape >>156914071
4-6 level new character
7-9 play existing character
0 buy shenzen i/o
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Would a voltaxic la br Assassin without pierce/chain work? Or should I give up on my theorycrafting?
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>>156914732
good luck on your mission anon, post pics.
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>>156914732
get out of here, stalker
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I think its worth taking EE with a fireball elementalist.

typical scenario while mapping : you regularly use orb of storm to proc EE, you also get 25% fire pen for 10 seconds, you hit offscreen monsters with your fireballs, those proc EE and they get +25% fire res.
its no problem since any build should not have any trouble dealing with trash, essentially here your damage doesnt change against those monsters.

now, against tanky rares and bosses which you usually see coming, you drop orb of storms for FREE 40% more damage and FREE 50% fire pen.

I mean fireball is just insane right now, the buff is ridiculous, I'm on a 4link with faster casting-CD-GMP, orb of storms - pcoc - increased crits proc EO constantly

I hesitated going occultist at first for the bonus meme points but Elementalist is just so good.
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>>156906040
Seriously tho, for people who are actually interested in the lore ( I'm not ), I know the gems are corrupted stuff coming from Dominus & friends, but what about the orbs ? just casual magic tools for masters ?
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>>156914884
So it begins.
1-3 buy camera
4-6 murder rape someone with a camera
7-9 steal a camera
0 give up before I begin
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Bex used to be a 'model' lol
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>>156915209
good luck with that with your -100 stealing aptitude
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>>156915794
is that actually bex? sauce?
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>>156915794
don't tell me GGG are feminists and leftists FUCKING UNSUBBED
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>>156916159
most intelligent people are leftists, sorry to say bud
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>>156916224
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>feels before reals
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>>156916328
feels before reals literally explains the alt-right and most rightwing ideologies though? lol
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>>156916224
I'm assuming you are both yanks but the idea of 'left' in America is hilarious. So you are right.
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>>156916224
t. cuck
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>>156915794
Yes, as the "before" in a weight loss program.
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>>156916406
agreed
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>>156916423
Bex, you still have bingo wings
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>>156916410
i don't let anyone fuck my girlfriend/wife if i had one
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>tfw actually thinking of making a bv pathfinder
pls stop me
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>>156916885
play an explosive arrow pathfinder instead
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>>156916885
If you want to then do it, don't be coerced by these wankers.
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>>156916224
Only because of how far off the left deep end most universities have fallen.
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>>156916885
do a bv duelist slayer instead.
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>>156917178
This is the crux, because the US university system is paid for they do things to attract students. It isn't even about the education any more, it is just fucking advertisement.
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Why does everyone play such boring fotm builds here? Does none of you possess the slightest amount of creativity?
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>>156918097
people play what's good, and proven to be good
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>>156918169
Where's the fun in that
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>>156918097
I play my own shitty build but i started 2 weeks ago and never post in this crap who knows what the future will bring eh
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Is there a attack speed cap? im at 9 attacks per second at lv 55 with cleave as duelist
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>>156918363
there's no hard attack speed cap
there's a soft cap (how many sources of attack speed you can stack)
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>>156915794
What is it about success that has caused every GGG employee to gain 150 lbs?
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>>156918270
Chaining reds without a worry about mods on a build that has one of the highest clear speeds in the game and is ridiculously safe to boot. That's pretty damn fun.
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>>156918097
I think you got lost on your way to tumblr, people here don't try and be special snowflakes.
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>>156918596
So basically just once everything is maxed, thats the cap
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>>156918771
No it's not. You followed step by step a recipe for success instead of achieving a build of your own. You're nothing but a well-trained monkey
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>>156906491
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>>156906559

only $10 in the next content update at which point it is way too late :^)
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What's the point

Really, what is the point

Might kill myself desu but it seems like to much effort. I'm bored writing this.

WHAT IS THE POINT?
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>>156906441
>>156909086
considering that you can use an orb instantly even in the middle of a fight, that may very well be how they work.
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>>156919376
To experience pain and beauty, that's what it means to be alive
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>>156919096
There are no builds that will allow a bad player to not die in maps. Those capped block evasion dodge builds from a while back were the same way. If you played like an idiot, you would die.
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>>156919493
I'm not particularly enamoured by beauty and I would prefer not to experience more pain than is necessary.
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>>156919376

there is no point. Enjoy
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>>156919376
Suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And you can take or leave it if you please
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>>156919751
>>156919760
It's funny when it is a joke I suppose.
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>>156919760
HAWKEYE
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>>156919689
stop being a pussy
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>>156920006
I used to say that and similar things but you just don't understand. Depression is a mental illness like being a tranny or playing PoE all day. It isn't something that words can change.
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>>156920278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcePJlrAgSU
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>>156920278
What are you saying baka anon desu. Just go to the gym once or twice a week, that'll boost your self esteem.
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DELETE RAKANGOS
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>>156920391
>tried to kill myself

I'm not a faggot, if I do it it will be done.I am a pussy though so I don't try.
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Vaults of Atziri is ASS
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>>156920462
Anon, I tried that. I used to cycle everywhere and was pretty buff, but I moved to a city and got sick of having nothing to see everyday. I really miss the country side.
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>>156919220
I'm here all night buddy
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>>156920717
I'm sorry to hear that
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David Duchovny, star of such TV dramas as the X-Files, said he browses /poeg/ but he hates how vitriolic it is. Is he right? This was something said to me a few evenings ago.
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>>156921183
david, FUCK you.
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>>156921248
:^)
>>
what the FUCK is the pit boss arena
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>>156919376
You'd just respawn at checkpoint, shitcrow
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>>156921428
are you not bored yet? I play hc but for fuck sake the hc vs sc thing is fucking boring. I don't care, why do you? is that all you have?You should fucking kill yourself like I am going to when I grow a pair
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>>156921347
great xp/hour
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>>156921347
>be aura cuck
>my friend takes a break so I jump into a public party for a bit
>flicker fag with 2k life carries a 6 man shitter party to 200mil an hour
>get a whisper "are you a support?"
>he leaves party and invites me on his 92 jugg
>he carries me through uber lab
>he asks me which maps im missing on the atlas and starts throwing red maps at me
>carries me through the unid/twinned challenges
>chains t14-15 maps for me never letting me drop below 200mil an hour

all the while im sitting there chain smoking and casually picking up free loot. nobody told me playing support would be this comfy
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>>156921843
calm down shitcrow
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>>156922078
retard
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>>156922212
so it's just for (you)s?
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>>156922239
mad
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>>156922239
fuck off retard
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STOP BEING MEAN TO EACH OTHER

we are all friends here!
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this general takes a quality nosedive at american prime time
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>>156922446
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>>156922482
>implying it's not australian NEETs waking up
just past noon there
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I want to play but my new build sucks
I don't die but I don't do damage either
I fell for The Scourge mem

I'm just sitting here zoning out at my screen wanting to level up more but really not wanting to play at the same time
>wasted all currency on it
Feels fucking terrible man
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>>156922617
this is why you jew when you buy your gear

if you build doesnt work out you just sell your gear and probably make a small profit too
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>>156922617
how bad do you have to be to misuse a +150% damage claw that double dips
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>>156922916
Reave and using Aegis Aurora instead of dual-wielding
Maybe I'm not putting enough points in yet
Here's my tree, I'm only level 70 but I can just feel the damage not working

http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMDAQ18DeIPqxEPEVAUsBUnFdcV_Ra_Fy8YahmKGo8bJR0UHaoi6iL0JIsqOCy_L281uTlSRfRGcUcGSI5LrkwtVdZWY1gHXGtfal-wZK9k52qVbAttGW9Xb55wu3X9f8aApIIegwmESIRvhq6IQoo4jLGPRo_6koCTJ5OQm4qboZu1pyusmLQMtMW1SL5Pvoq_AMHFwzrDbcpKytPQ0NRC2RPZW9vn34rhiOLV6QLquuwY7UH22vfX-tL7Cf5J
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>2.4.0
>still no unarmed melee skills besides retarded shit like meme blow or cyclone
>still no gentle palm
>still no tiger strike
>still no kick skills
poetards?
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>>156923482
phoenix strike when
>>
I have 6 characters this league, none of them killed a rare fighting bull in cruel for the achievement, and since the arena is the only place where they spawn I'm currently farming kaoms dream in cruel.
>>
>Trump dying
>PoE dying
Coincidence? I think not.
>>
>>156923974
I know RIGHT
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>>156923482
ya I want a kick skill to use with templar, comfy to the max

maybe we will see his balls
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>>156924027
>>Trump dying
source?
>>
>>156922446
This mad e me cry, please anons, we ca be friends.
>>
Who would last longer in Wraeclast, Mike Tyson or Bruce Lee?
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>>156924749
duelists tend to do better than maras in races
>>
>>156922617
Yeah, Reave just feels bad to play after Lacerate.

Personally, I'm just gonna wait for this new channelled skill, since there's a fair amount of evidence it's gonna be a DMC style blade flurry thing.
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>>156924801
I would say mike is a duelist, he is small. Bruce is a shadow.
>>
Bruce was a Scion
he combined strength, dexterity and intelligence
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>>156923482
Use claws then
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>>156924417
It's bullshit, he's just trying to Correct the Record
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>>156925339
of course

he's only growing stronger
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yurus >>>
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>>156925812
Azumanga Daioh is the only good show there.
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>>156914071
whos this prostate prospector
>>
>>156925927

what else can pedos watch?

nick and disney shows' actresses look "too old"
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>>156925812
H-hey anon your coffee is almost ready.
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>>156925812
Figures the anime poster was a casual shitter.
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What is the general strategy for using the map device in red tier maps? So far I'm just double beyonding. First time in these higher tier maps and i have no idea what i'm doing.
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>>156923434
Can anyone give me some pointers please?
>>
I DID IT
I CLEARED MERC LAB
TIME FOR CONFLUX
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Well then. Azu it is.
>>156926249
I hope that cawfee is pantsu filtered.
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>>156926610
Good idea for experience but Beyond monsters don't drop maps so you're hurting yourself there.
Perandus is probably your best bet
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>>156926813
Watch Aria instead
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>>156923434
tree looks garbage
what more is there to say
stretched too thin, not picking minion or jewel nodes (what's the point of using the scourge then?) and not picking alchemist/deflection (what's the point of using aegis then?)
>>
God damn it I just want an 800+ ES chest but all of the decent ones are already six-linked and cost 1000 chaos because of that
STOP LINKING YOUR SHIT BEFORE SELLING
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>>156925812
azudai if you seriously haven't watched it yet
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>>156927051
800 ES is like 3 woes
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>>156927157
back to your containment board literally nobody cares about politics here
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>>156926874
Actually got pretty lucky in double beyond but that is just a coincidence then.

After unlocking the map do I still corrupt the map or just corrupt 15s for Vaal Temple?
>>
>>156927051
anon it isn't week 1 of tge league anymore. Why are you such a poorfag?
>>
>>156926610
Roll until [Packsize x IIQ] > 1500

Run with Zana mod of your choice. Double beyond is good. Perandus is also fine. Anarchy if you're cheap.
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>>156927225
3 woes? 3 woe essences?
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>>156927240
You do realize /vg/ is a containment board right?
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>have trade chat open
>WTS good starter bow Lioneye's Glare 1c
>starter bow
>used to be best endgame bow around
My nostalgic feels
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people still think Scion is weak... heh... I'll show them the power of max block Aegis...
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>>156927515
Lioneye's gets a bad rap because it's only got 5% crit in a meta that fucking idolizes crit, but retards forget that assassin can make anything hit the crit cap anyway. Lioneye's can carry you to red maps on a phys archer assassin.
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do several rolling flames stack the increased radius ?
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>>156927615
>reflect
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>>156927584
Should I buy the comics?
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>>156927515
It was, yeah. Then they buffed bow mods and made it possible to survive reflect with crit, added new bases for bows that made them even better, and removed thorns. I still remember going crazy when I saw pic related on day one of the announcement on bow buffs.
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>>156927734
>there are people who play this game in the fucking holy year of our lord 2016 that still worry about Reflect
Go fucking jump off a bridge retard
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>>156927734
>have 2% or more leech
>reflect rares are no longer even remotely an issue
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>>156927615
Slayer sounds like a better choice. 50% reduced reflect taken and the possibility of going IR almost entirely negates the downside of Lioneye's. Generic 2h weapons nodes apply to bow and he can stack crit nodes while ensuring a 100% hit rate.
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>>156927831
>7% attack speed

trash
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>>156927980
>Generic 2h weapons nodes apply to bow
No
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>>156926813
>posting that pic without a joke
I am disappointed.
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>>156928065
It was day 1 and it was better than any bows available for a mirror service. It was insane. The hype was real.
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>>156928072
Feel free to check yourself. Slayer has specifically 2h weapons nodes, not 2h melee weapons like anywhere else on the tree. They apply to any 2handers, including bows.
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>>156928179
gomenasai.
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>>156928209
k thats fucking bizarre guess i was wrong
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What are some builds that work well enough with a 1h weapon? I want to run an aegis. It's been a while.
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>>156928506
melee: Varunastra EQ
spellcaster: anything you want, since max block gimps you damage, probably something that requires little to hurt, like BV
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>>156928357
yurusanai
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>>156927363
Do I keep corrupting all my red maps? Even after the unlocking the map?
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>>156928695
not unless you can run every combination of every map mod
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>>156928695
No, because then it costs freaking extra 3-4 vaals to run that Zana mod
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>>156928506
if you're a filthy rumi's scrub: literally anything
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>>156927803
you can read them online for FREE
http://viewcomic.com/path-of-exile-001-the-karui-way-2014/

don't tell reddit though
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>>156927980
Might as well go flat phys bows if you're doing that, Duelist has a lot of good options for that.
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>>156928735
>>156928831
Ok, thanks for the advice.
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>>156928695
No, that would be insane. Just corrupt the first one.
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What am I getting /poeg/?
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>>156929169
Vitality
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>>156929064
Good thing I have noob luck with drops and have decent currency cause I have vaal'd like 40 maps so far.
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>>156929169
>>156929224
if you do ill buy it
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>level up in Daresso's Dream and spec into Art of the Gladiator
Poetry
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>>156929224
>>156929434
eh
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>>156929567
Right after that, from a prophecy.
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Is it just me being dumb, or it is almost always better to just kill all the bandits lord in normal, get the appropriate buff in cruel and kill them again in merciless unless using a build with charges?
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>>156930268
40 life is better than any skill point you could get for 99% of life based builds
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>>156930320
except that 40 flat life is equivalent to a 4% hp node all said and done. The passive is arguably a better pick even for life builds.
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>>156930430
Theoretically, yes. But you should consider that most life builds already grab absolutely every single worthwhile life node they possibly can. That passive point is unlikely to go into a health node.
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>>156930915
If it's not going to a health node, it can be used to get closer to health nodes faster.
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>>156930915
no, they don't, most of them leave the scion wheel unfinished.
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>>156931027
Only terrible build guides on the forums leave the life nodes unfinished. That shit's amazing.
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>>156931027
is this the power of softcore?
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>/poeg/ skips normal oak on life builds to "get to health nodes faster"

lmao
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>>156930994
I'm saying that you already grabbed all of the efficient health nodes your build would ever get, so 1 passive point does not equate to more health.
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>>156931289
And at that point, 40 more health matters shit all.
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>>156931843
100~ health in exchange for 1 passive point is pretty good mate
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leveling a fireball witch, using vaal fireball and vaal lightning trap, found a consuming dark, cant handle all those effects and dat damage holy shit I'm loving this
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>>156931843
40 health gets scaled by all the health nodes you have

if you have 200% increased hp from the tree, it winds up being 120 hp for 1 point. that's a lot better than a 4% node
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>>156930430
Not really. For a skill point, let's say a 5% life node, to be worth more than Oak, you'd need

base life * (X+0.05) > (base life + 40) * X where X = 1+%increased hp/100

<=>

0.05base life > 40X

<=>

base life > 800X

For X = 2.5 (150% increased life, you need more than 2000 base life.
(2000*2.55 = 2040*2.5)

For X = 3 (200% increased life), you'd need more than 2400 base life.
(2400*3.05 = 2440*3)

For X = 3.5 (250% increased life), you'd need more than 2800 base life.
(2800*3.55 = 2840*3.5)

For 99.99999% of life builds, Oak is still going to be better. The only reason to skip Oak would be to grab anything that is not a life node instead.
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>>156932137
>>156932463
Yeah, it's more useful in the long run.
While it's still the topic, anything that is lifeleech should also be taking the 40+ health, right?
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>>156932976
anything that is not CI or LL should take it
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>>156932976
it's more useful in the short term too

an extra 40 hp at level 17 is pretty significant
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melee is objectively superior to spells because they have access to easy mana leech and their attacks cost nothing while spellcasters have to invest 50 points into mana regen, mana nodes to break even
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>>156933295

>melee is objectively superior if you are a shitter that can't plan a build for shit
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>>156933295
>melee is objectively superior if you ignore everything that spells do better than melee
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>>156933093
Well this build I'm still trying to know where I will go with is definitely not going CI, and I really doubt I'm going LL.
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>>156933601
sources of mana sustain for casters
mana regen and % mana (wasted points)
clarity (lol)
rallying cry (lol)
warlord's mark (-1 curse, -35% mana reservation)
boots enchant (lol)
vinktar's (10 ex flask)

anything that I missed? because last time I checked all melee needed was a mana leech mod on their gloves to sustain their 6L EQ
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>>156933752
then take the node, if you have enough currency to go LL then you'll have enough currency to respec out of oak
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>>156933841
not true

20 regrets is kind of a big deal to most people, especially in the early stages of gearing/switching into builds
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>>156933781
>clarity (lol)
what did he mean by this?
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>>156933949
>can buy a 6ex shavs
>20 regrets is a big deal

ok
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>>156934034
turning a 6ex expense into a 7ex expense might break the bank
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>>156933956
use a level 20 Clarity and say, +50% mana from tree and see what you can sustain in a -60% less recovery map

the answer is probably a 4L at best for the most expensive spells

so basically use WM or get cucked
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>>156933781
>>156934069
what builds are you playing that can't sustain in 60%

what builds are you playing that can't use a mana pot but need one
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>>156934150
I don't want to use a fucking mana pot wtf you don't see melee using a mana pot with their 10 mana cost EQ and free leech everywhere
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>>156934190
>you don't see melee using a mana pot

you don't see melee doing a lot of things that casters do
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>>156933781

you could name crutch mechanics that constrain spellcasting all you want, but the same can be named of attack-based builds; damage scaling everywhere, accuracy, giving up crits, namelocking, terrain-fuckery, etc

the thing is, maybe you dont need to plan for mana on an attack build, but you still need to account other factors; while a spell may need mana planing, but many other mechanics can be taken for granted
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>>156933781
my additional mana and mana regen scaling allows me to reserve far more of my mana than a melee build would be able to
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>>156934364
nah. considering a 6l attack costs like 20. a mana gain on hit jewel or gloves leech can sustain it easily
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>>156934190
>take mana regen on tree get free flask duration/charges, life regen, max life and str/int

"""""""""""""""wasted""""""""""""" points

>warlords mark, get free endurance charges and life leech

haha yeah spell builds sure are shit dude
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>melee can't even kill things that are offscreen
literal garbage
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>>156894486
not him, but yes
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Revelry 2OP
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>>156933295
you're terrible at the game, I'm sorry

I'm a long time player and almost only play melee ( marauder / duelist ) or Lightning arrow on some occasion. Last time I played a spellcaster was a flameblast templar back when searing touch prolif was the meta.

I just started a fireball build and holy shit the damage is insane, the clear too more importantly. I'm only leveling and didnt plan my build very much but all the new support gems they added over the years benefited greatly melee as in it made your life easier, but it made spellcasters even more powerful.

mana regen isnt wasted points.
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remember when people used to complain that casters had no good source of life leech other than leech gem
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>>156934816
if you go the other side for 2 points you get 0.8 life and 0.4 mana leech which is much better

revelry always makes me laugh because the only time I listened to a ziggyD build guide for a few minutes he reminded everyone how important it was to take revelrys and he was playing some physical build too
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What makes a man turn BV? Lust for anime? Cats? Or were they just born with a heart full of banality?
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>>156934851
How're you doing fireball? I'm doing gmp rolling flames and boss damage is pretty ass but packs just disappear
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>>156934674
maybe I don't like being forced into using a curse to sustain, that doesn't sound like very intelligent design, make warlord's mark a life leech only curse and see how you deal with that then

>>156934851
dude I'm not talking about how leveling is easier for casters, I'm talking about end game when your spell costs 25 mana pre multipliers and -60% less recovery cucks you while melee does just fine with 30 mana unreserved and a fucking mana on hit jewel, we're not even talking about the same thing
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>>156934997
i always liked the skill mechanically and i unironically find it very fun to play
its not my fault i chose to finally play it for real in the league it became a meme
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>>156934987
I fucking love how you can ask about the same thing on different moments and always get a different answer that contradicts with all the previous ones.
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>>156935046
nobody is denying that melee has an easier time than casters sustaining their mana

still, casters are way stronger than melee

mana is the least of your problems in this game
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>>156935016
same, got a consuming dark because it cant hurt, and for single target I'm running vaal flameblast and vaal lightning trap with ele focus

I got EO ofc, use orb of storms - pcoc - increased crit chance to proc it.

I one shot every rare even the 'tanky' ones, leveling in cruel dried lake atm.

fireball - gmp - cd - ele focus - faster casting
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>>156935046

>i dont like

did you say it was objectively better?

fucking shitcrows
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>>156935089
I like the idea but you can;t deny it is even more boring than most skills.
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>>156935241
boring is subjective

you don't need to understand why people enjoy "boring" things
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>>156934997
A character is a large investment for a shitter, so naturally they want to maximize the return they can obtain from this investment. There is a very strong herd mentality among the PoE player base, probably due to the sheer complexity of the game. Once the herd has concluded what the build is going to be, the shitter will naturally follow whatever it is.
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>>156934752
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DAILY REMINDER THAT YOU ARE ENTITLED TO MAP DROPS, DON'T LET THE SHILLS TELL YOU OTHERWISE.
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>>156935387
>Once the herd has concluded what the build is going to be

ggg concluded what the build was going to be when they nerfed every other good build and buffed blade vortex's clear potential with the stack change
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>>156935387
>due to the sheer complexity of the game

its not as complex as you want to make it seem, but that people these days are used to extremely simplistic phone games
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where the fuck do i find a keepers of the trove
i could force bloodline rolls on maps i guess?
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>>156935551
YOU AREN'T ENTITLED TO ANYTHING YOU LITTLE SHIT
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>>156935446
If there were a better helm that Rime Gaze, then Scion Hierophant Lightning Warp totems could be a thing.
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>>156935648
I AM OF THE RNG G*D'S CHOSEN PEOPLE NOW GIVE ME THE MAPS
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>>156935637
you can roll maps, yes

plus there is zana for even more bloodlines
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>>156935780
no there is not
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>>156935780
is that something her device can force? i checked and it wasn't an option, but she's not very leveled
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>>156935771
WANNA FUCK? I'M COOL EVEN IF YOU ARE A DUDE
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>>156935868
zana does not have bloodlines as a mod in 2.4
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>>156935868
there used to be, not anymore

you can still roll it maps tho
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The only one that could ever reach me was the son a duelist man, the only one who could ever teach me was the son of a duelist man.

Why is duelist so based? If poe didn't have the templar then it would be really gay.
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Maps cost way too fucking much to maintain. I've used like around 200 chaos getting corrupted maps, rolling, getting chisels, Zana mods etc. and my pool's still tiny as fuck.

There really should be a 20-30% increase in drop rate.
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>>156937160
welcome to the grind
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>>156937160
This meme doesn't exist anymore. You can sustain red maps just by alching them if your Atlas is above 50% now fampai
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>>156937283
lol
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>>156937283
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>>156937160
You can profit pretty easily, but you do have to slow your xp/hour down to do so.

Alternatively, get 100+ Atlas Completion and sell off your excess maps.
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>>156937160
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>>156937484
See >>156937464
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>>156937283
>>156937334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-UwhmSIZzg
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>>156937464
maybe your RNG needs to git gud then, because I've been living off red maps ever since I found my first one just by alching them and occasionally vaaling new ones.
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>>156937464
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>>156937464
lol dumb weebposter got #btfo
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should i

a) reroll
b) get in shape and fuck a cute girl (male)
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>>156937796
c) watch Westworld
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>>156937574
Seing the Simpsons at their height is tragic, how can it have fallen so far omfg.
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>>156937750
I'm pretty sure the guy that can't sustain red maps is the one that's blown out. If red maps are really that hard for him to sustain, he could always do the cuck option by joining map rotations. That way you run maps with a 6:1 investment
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>>156937796
M8, I see in your post myself. You really want to be a normie. You can. it is really easy. You realise it, spend time on this or spend time on that. Be a normie anon, once you do it you will find time for this as well.
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>>156937554
Sacrifice a black goat to the RNG gods
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>>156937936
I don't care about anime or manga but people posting pics of cartoon children disturbs me. If you spent time being a person you could have your own funny little shit. Seriously reconsider your life.
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>>156937936
>>156937283
>>156936368
cease this immediately

poeg is a wholesome respectable general
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>>156938357
Some aren't children though.
983976/08e0f1ae45/
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:^)
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i wish piety would sit on my face and poop in my mouth
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>>156938717
how does vinktar work with EA exactly? I thought the explosions were a secondary effect which is neither a spell nor attack
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>>156938842
Think he's just desperate for the Shock.
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>>156938739
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>>156938893
>>156938842
it's a burn multiplier
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>>156938739
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>>156938910
this is sick

did u draw?
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>>156939216
no, some random fanart i saved in 2014
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>>156927803
Masks are worth it, bout the only comic pack that is.
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>>156939186
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>>156938739
I think your post is disgusting but if Catarina voiced it then I would swallow.
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>>156939430
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do not sexualize my waifu
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I hate rng. I can't 5 link my weapon if my life depended on it... :( I am sad.
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>>156939665
Don't be sad, you probably aren't worth a four link. You are doing ok.
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>>156939528
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See you in 2 months.
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>>156940285
i'll be here

trapped in eternal damnation
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>>156940130
I like it but it is her voice thatt gets me hard.
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>>156940582
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>>156940285
>not going for 40/40
casual
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>>156940652
I can hear it, thanks. I am rock hard.
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>>156940652
>If I take off the mask, will you die?
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>>156940673
If I'm not casual I would've finished this 1-2 weeks in.
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>>156940827
you have good taste in poefus
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>>156937160
What the fuck when I mapped in perandus I put at least 5 times as much currency as you have (800-900 chaos in the first week of the league) to sustain a consistent t11 + map pool.
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>>156941593
Thanks, it is nice to meet another distinguished gentleman.
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT I FUCKING HATE THOSE FAT FUCKS WHO THROW THOSE 3 LIGHTNING BOLTS AT YOU

FUCK YOU YOU GIGANTIC FAGGOTS


Also is there any news on Act 5? Or any other expansion into story?
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>>156941940
It's coming 2017, cruel is getting nixed, that's all I know. Oh, and an upgrade from direct x11 or whatever.
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HELP! My friend is out of town and I want to start my second character, but know very little about building classes as this is my second character. I want to make a CA, what is the best guide to make a good one? I am not too concerned about the end game price of gear cus he will cover more extreme costs, I just want a good guide to get started until he gets back.
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>>156940285
i'm so close to this and it looks ugly as fuck... i want the perandus portal
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>>156942315
Grab some red armor, and spoec into melee , movement speed, and attack speed.
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i cant wait for the halloween MTX.
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>>156943420
When do you think that's coming? What do you think it'll be?

Still mad I missed the pumkin and headless mtx.
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>>156943539
>When do you think that's coming?

GGG just like everything else they do, is fucking retarded in there application. Instead of giving us the seasonal MTX at the start of the season, they put them up at the very end.

They do this every year with every season.

So yeah, i fully expect it to release the day before halloween until the day after.

> What do you think it'll be?
Who knows, it better be good though.
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>>156943772
>Instead of giving us the seasonal MTX at the start of the season, they put them up at the very end.
>They do this every year with every season.
>So yeah, i fully expect it to release the day before halloween until the day after.
That's pretty scummy.
>BETTER BUY EM NOW HURRY HURRY HURRY!
basically artifically making them scarce, in an effort to add "value" to thier product. They'd probably make more offering all seasonal mtx throughout the season month, only for that month.
>Who knows, it better be good though.
Eh, they've all been kinda meh, how much are they usually anyways?
>>
>make another account to store all my shit in
>suddenly get prompted to do the whole verification code thing every day I log in

I'm not going to buy your shit GGG, nice try.
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>want to make a volley fire barrage inquisitor
>templar starter nodes are useless
>leech nodes are on the other side of the tree
>vaal pact is on another side of the tree

Anyone try this shit before?
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>>156944581
there is a fine line between being wise with how you spend your money and being fucking retarded and you cross it
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>>156944881
>barrage inquisitor
what does inquisitor bring to the table that makes this a good idea
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>>156945368
Resistance Nullification AKA the only way to kill Shaper with an elemental build nowadays.
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>>156938893
>>156938931
Why wouldnt you just use vaal lightning trap
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>>156945591
?
Shaper is his own unique map, thus you know he'll never have more than 40% all res according to poedb, making inquisitor resistance penetration much less of a big deal

Attack-based Inquisitors are terrible because you lack the accuracy needed to fully use your crit spec, and trying to get bow/weapon crit with a templar start is just nonsense

Volley Fire requires 50 nearby dex to function so all the jewel nodes you could easily access are not even usable

your build idea is shit m8
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>>156940285
haha fuck that shit, it looks awful
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>>156940285
I'm in the middle of inking my contest entry, but after that I'm drawing witch noot being able to fit through a tiny portal.
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>>156948145
sayako style?
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>>156948424
I do not understand the reference, but maybe?
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Why do they make the leagues so fucking long? I could understand if the specific league mechanic actually played a huge part, but it doesn't.

Just like Prophecy the league is pretty much dead and there's months left to go.
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>>156948480
sadako*
the girl from the ring
i always forget how to spell her name
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>>156944881
Would need to be ci and have nutty rings and ammy for this to be good
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>>156948828
>>156948145
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>>156949079
that's pretty good
if i wanted to pick on anything it might be the hair across her back
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>>156949232
it's one of joe duncan's older pieces
the guy is a god
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>>156948828
Nah, I was thinking something a bit different.
>>156949079
neat.
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>make new character
>get to A3 Merciless
>get bored of the build
>reroll again
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>>156950965
gay lootfilter
just like you
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>>156950965
I hope you picked up that carrion crow
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C A W
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Is increased weapon elemental damage the same as increased elemental damage with the condition that it has to be an attack skill?
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>>156951346
yes
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>>156951346

it has to be an attack skill that uses weapon scaling (no fb or doryanis)
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i have 20 T1 maps, 5 T2, 5T3 and 1 T4 map.
should i run T1 maps at all or should I just vendor them with the 3:1 recipe?
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>>156952294
just roll your t4 well and see if you get drops
if not, build up that base again then try your top tier maps when you feel you have a big enough pool to work with
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>>156952294
Always combine them to get higher maps you may have not gotten yet, make sure to alch them too if ti's your first time. The new way mapping works is, the more unique maps you've done (meaning seperate maps not literally unique) means you're more likely to get higher tier drops, which is improved drastically by alchs, along with eaach percent you get from completeing the atlas.
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>>156952347
why do i need to build up a base again when I dont get drops from my 1 T4? or do you mean that i should 3:1 everything i have until i only have T4s left?

Also, should I buy any maps from Zana?

Also, I'd like to thank the people in /poeg/ for being generally very helpful. I'm a new player and have been asking a lot of questions here in the last few days, aside from a few bearable elitists/trolls these threads are great.
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>>156952537
if you run your highest tier maps and get no returns and have no base of lower tier maps left, you are fucked
it's not rocket science, anon
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>there will never be a fun, viable katana blood magic witch build
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>stay in one spot "channeling" for seconds trying to hose nearby enemies
or
>click one button, explode everything within a couple of screens

Gee, I wonder what people will use. Useless DOA skills.
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incinerate was great, you fucking mong
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>>156953335

was
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>>156953248
>>stay in one spot "channeling" for seconds trying to hose nearby enemies
yeah no one uses blade vortex anymore
>>click one button, explode everything within a couple of screens
yeah i just one shot those 5 million hp guardians
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>>156953335
>>156953406
I heard it's still pretty good though
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ESC support looking to map
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>>156953406
hopefully at least one of the channeling skills will be as good as incinerate was in it's prime
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>>156953928
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>>156954269
nobody cares
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>>156954269
Stop league shaming people
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>>156953474
>blade vortex
Terrible example due to the blades spinning for a duration
>guardians
Enjoy getting one-shotted while staying still trying to channel you diarrhea.
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>>156954317
saying that implies there's actually shame involved in a video game, which is a wholly pathetic concept
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i want to play a max block, dual wield cybil's paw build with one of the new channeling skills
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>>156954631
enjoy shit clear speed
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>>156954439
>Terrible example due to the blades spinning for a duration
yes because much of the blade vortex playstyle against single target revolves around ducking, weaving and manually dodging around and abusing blades duration instead of just sitting there and holding right click while periodically hitting your basalt flask

>Enjoy getting one-shotted while staying still trying to channel you diarrhea.
BV doesn't one shot shit either, it's all about maximizing peak dps while being stationary, and it happens to be one of the best skills at that, so how is it functionally different from a channeling skill?
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>>156950965
hey asshole theres a carrion crow on the ground
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>>156954681
clear speed isn't everything
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>>156954864
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>>156955121
retard
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>>156953130
Here, a basic idea for a witch 2-handed sword BM build, honestly none of the ascendencies work with melee damage, so I figured the usefulness of occultist would work.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMBAASzBx4HdQmWC2ENfA48EPARGhFQEZYUIBRxFX4aVRslG6odTyFVIvQkmyW8JyAo-iz7Nbk26DkOOlI8LT1fQXRBh0lRSbFLrlBHUlNXVFfJXhNhUmMXZ5to8mnYbAttGXNrdit2rHzZfPB-oX_GgIqBOoLHg1-DzIVShmCI7YoiirORB5J0kyeTqJUul3mXlZf0oS-iAKcrqfqtja4-r2y0DLc-u_y-isCmwQfGrsb3ytPPftd-18_Yvdlb2WHbT9w934rfv-DD4e_kUekC6hjquusJ7nrvDu9O74jwH_DV8lr3MvdN-Ov5N_no-hj-Cg==
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>>156955913
>http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMBAASzBx4HdQmWC2ENfA48EPARGhFQEZYUIBRxFX4aVRslG6odTyFVIvQkmyW8JyAo-iz7Nbk26DkOOlI8LT1fQXRBh0lRSbFLrlBHUlNXVFfJXhNhUmMXZ5to8mnYbAttGXNrdit2rHzZfPB-oX_GgIqBOoLHg1-DzIVShmCI7YoiirORB5J0kyeTqJUul3mXlZf0oS-iAKcrqfqtja4-r2y0DLc-u_y-isCmwQfGrsb3ytPPftd-18_Yvdlb2WHbT9w934rfv-DD4e_kUekC6hjquusJ7nrvDu9O74jwH_DV8lr3MvdN-Ov5N_no-hj-Cg==
I feel like you coulld go ci with this, , nix one of the 2 hander tress (probbaly not the duelist one), and go for the chaos tree by the neergy shield nodes.

Seems like you could do something interesting with a 2handed chaos damage build. Especially with the necro ascendancy.

Seems like a waste to not go for more chaos damage + energy shield
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he didn't log out so good
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>>156956072
>BM
>CI
Choose one
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But yes, you could probably do all those things in >>156956072
and it would turn out interesting, especially with voidheart and other great ways to cause poison/chaos with non spells.
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>>156929836
I got a 20% temp chains from a prophecy the other day. Was pretty cash.
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Am I shooting myself in the foot for lategame if I try to go melee Ranger build? I'll never completely drop the bow but mainly using melee, I mean
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>>156956808
>I'll never completely drop the bow but mainly using melee
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>Tfw you drop Nomic's Storm AND Asenath's Mark in 2 hours of gameplay
I mean I know they're shit, but still not so bad for a scrub
playing Ranger gets me lucky
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What's the best slayer build currently?
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>>156958398
Can I get an actual answer
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just got Jewellers Touch.
What's the best unique to buy on the cheap, use the Touch on it and resell it for profit? Belly of the Beast?
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>>156958569
woe cleave/lacerate
tornado shot
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>>156958614
>>156958828
Are you posting these because they look like Ranger?
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>>156958510
I'd let her raid my dick if you know what I mean
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>>156956808
>melee
Explain further. Are we talking about Memechief/EQ "melee" or the Double Strike kind of melee ?
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>>156958714
go to bed hege
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>>156959567
Sorry, I meant dual wield melee with Reave, and other such skills

>>156958991
muh dik though
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>>156954456
It has nothing to do with feelings being hurt, it has to do with the absurdity of the viewpoint in the first place, the hivemind hate towards anyone not in hardcore being a pall of negativity that overtook every thread, and the fact that it has nothing to do with salt or feels, but with the basic respect so many of us feel we don't need to show just because it's the internet and the people we're being assholes to have no power to do anything about it.

Not to mention that thinking you're better than others on some special level that matters, just because your character hasn't died is, itself, incredibly childish, and frankly, just absurdly stupid in my opinion. Not because you're proud of your accomplishment, but because just like all the other people we make fun of for this, you absolutely feel the need to tell the world about it at every possible opportunity, just in a negative light through bashing others.

There's no way any of the hardcore elitist haters would talk like that to someone in real life, and the principle of both reddiquette and basic fucking human decency still apply on the internet, and choosing not to follow them continues to make you an asshole, just like it does when you're not on the internet. You're welcome, of course, to not care at all about that, but this is, after all, a public forum for discussion, not narcissism, and quite simply, the non-hardcore players are the overwhelming majority.

There's good cause to say that the insulting, itself, is the issue, regardless of what exactly it is, because even ignoring how the targeted victim "feels", it's unproductive shitposting at its finest.
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>not playing wormblaster

fucking plebs
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>>156960536
that shit's expensive man
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I used to play when the beta first came out and now I want to again, I was bad back then and I am now
Is there anywhere I can find any decent premade easyish to play builds for hc? Or something very dumb friendly that tells me how to play this game properly?
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>try out chaos as shadow
>holding contagion + wither on enemies kills them half as fast as just spamming ethereal knives

is this not viable?
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>>156961378
You need essence drain 'tard.
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Hey guys, Chris Wilson here. Just dropping by to tell you guys that we'll be releasing a special map tab as a micro transaction item soon. Hope you guys enjoy it.
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>>156959702
Reave is okay.
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>lv 88 and running t10 maps
life is suffering
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>>156962347
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>>156962347
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>discord shitting up the general again
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I found an exalt on cruel coast, what are the chances of that?
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>reddit hating on discordbros
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>>156964471
50-50, either you find one or not
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>>156958545
sauce
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>>156962347
God I hope so.
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>>156958991
I wanna pretend to be stronger than her in bed while we both know this simply isn't the case and then when we/one of us gets close to climaxing she pretends to go super saiyan and just throws me over while doing whatever to me. to her.
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Damn, what happened? It used to take me an afternoon to hit maps. I just clocked in at nine hours to do the same thing that used to take me like half the time. Damn near an entire day. That hurts.
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>tfw being stingy with currency while trying to 6L a bow
900 fusings down the drain. Lets see if another 261 will do it.
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played 3 hours today and leveled from 58 to 70
very proud of myself!
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>>156965586
Well done anon.
Shame you didn't accomplish anything real.
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>>156965531
I hope you will have to burn through every one of your 44 exalted orbs to six link your bow.
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>>156965531
are you playing an ice shot support build with that nuro's harp?
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>>156965696
Rude. Being jealous will get you nowhere anon.
>>156965721
Skin transfer.
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>>156964471
I found one in a cocoon of cruel's harvest
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>>156965815
roth's reach looks better imho
but please post a screenshot of your character when you are done
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>>156965879
It didn't link. I don't wanna put on a weapon effect because I'd have to waste another skin transfer to get it back on the bow.
The first fuse I spent after equipping the Nuro's harp skin transfer gave me a 5L. Just food for thought.
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>>156966064
>The first fuse I spent after equipping the Nuro's harp skin transfer gave me a 5L. Just food for thought.

Guys this simply is not true. the game doesn't work like this.
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>>156966064
it looks alright
maybe use one of the golden/seraph sets?
also, r-rate me
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>>156964915
WARNING: It's futaXfemale
http://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1777370 Cum can't fountain like that, right?
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>>156966215
It did though. How can you say it's not possible to 5L on the first fuse after a skin transfer? That's ridiculous. Why would GGG nerf paying customers arbitrarily?
>>156966359
Cute/10 Roths isn't my type of bow though.
I really wish this game had self-shadowing. For your own character at least.
>>156966424
Few people cum in a sustained stream. But yes, of course it can if you do. Cum doesn't simply break physics.
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>>156965225
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bought a 49% damage dark seer for 1c
very underrated unique desu
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>>156966594
>Few people cum in a sustained stream.
I mean I guess technically possible but it just sounds superhuman to me?
I just can't imagine that happening, because of how the muscles down there work in contraptions, and I have never seen it in porn
Like how the fuck would you do it, have a pelvic floor muscle so powerful, you just shoot all the load out in 1 hold? What the fuck
Sounds amazing to do though, wish I could do it
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>>156966594
you look a lot cooler front-on
you can protect me anytime, gryphon fampai
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>>156966670
>not getting The Harvest
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>>156966594
what about me?
am i kawaii?
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>>156967184
i find the idea of leap slamming monsters with a living flesh dildo much more amusing
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>>156967550
'no'
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>>156967184
Making every legacy unique available in leagues is such a mistake. It's so dumb. At least balance the items to the current game.
>>156966921
Yeah duelist does look nice from the front. Complements the phoenix set well.
>>156967550
>pants
Crown of eyes look terrible too. What were they thinking. it doesn't even seat properly on his head.
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>>156967652
but how about spamming disgusting dildo worms shattering them into millions little dildos to kill all your opponents?
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>he has less than 10k ehp
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>he has less than 25k ehp

>>156967908
they always do that. harvest and headhunter for example, they were always op as fuck but doesnt matter cause are expensive! its so retarded
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>>156968939
>life based builds 100% need kaoms to even reach levels close to CI

So when is life builds getting buffed? GGG can't honestly look at life vs CI builds and think it's fine.
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>tfw had the game open all night waiting for this one guy to stop being afk so i can buy this one fucking item i need that no one else has
please kill me
>>
how could harvest have been always OP when writhing jar was introduced 10 years later
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>>156969759
It was used for other builds before the worm shit.
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>Oh man, time to finally check this game out
>Pick witch, because I love spellcasters and summoners
>Breeze through the game
>Oh man, time for the Labyrinth
>Breeze through it
>Suddenly! Izaro
>My corpse meatshields are not enough
>You have died!
Am I doing it wrong or something? He just straight up ignored my corpses and actually targeted me instead.
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>>156970172
Use Summon Raging Spirits.
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>>156970172
are you in normal
try a decoy totem
also join discord so that we can help you without bully
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>>156970413
I am.
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>>156970172
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>>156970440
eat shit crowposter
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>>156969759
>being this retarded
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>>156970683
rude
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>>156970714
fuck off to your safe space (discord), faggot
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>>156967908
Cards helped a lot with the legacy unique bullshit. They're still super expensive but headhunter pre-divcards was absolutely retarded.
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>>156970685
it was always a garbage unique before writhing jar, retard
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>>156970172
Apparently, this is the ending that you deserve.
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>>156970778
not berating new people for falling into noobtrap mistakes does not make discord a safe space
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>>156970865
t. osaifh
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>>156970172
who the fuck talks like that? you're so bad at pretending you're new
kys retard
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>>156970943
???
I never picked this game up before last week.
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>>156971015
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>>156964471
>>156965863
>just about to run out of any joy and willingness to play
>suddenly all my autism is refreshed by exalt from bust stash
>>
Anyone noticed this pattern where summoners are the archetype the most likely to develop a victim complex? even more than melee babbies, they will never fail to remind you that "AS A SUMMONER I..." as if they were some kind of martyrs
>>
>>156970472
Can you post the full thing if you have it
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>>156970462
Re-read SRS. They don't get aggro'd by monsters. As for Izaro, he has a leap slam and a charge so he can and will aggro you. Need to cast and move.
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So how good exactly IS this ?
Does it literally mean : "Crits don't mean shit for you" ?
Is it worth the price of not having any Resistences or Life ?
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>>156971474
I have both SRS and zombies, it's the zombies he's ignoring. I also picked up a Vaal summon skellington, but I didn't have enough souls to use it.
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>>156971545
Yes it literally means crit don't mean shit for you.
And if you look at poe.trade you'll notice the cheapest one is going for 1ex, which can only mean two things:
1. So rare it warrants the 1ex price even though nobody wants it
2. Everyone wants it
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>>156971545
Depends. You can use it to meme build to hit 100k armor. Crtis don't matter when wearing it. No life, no resistances, nothing else really. I'm kind of torn on it though. I've ripped too many characters to bullshit crits to say it's worthless entirely. But it is kind of worthless.
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>>156971545
>Does it literally mean : "Crits don't mean shit for you" ?
It literally doesn't mean anything more than "take no extra damage from critical strikes", you still get status ailments and you still benefit from on-crit taken effects like avenger's flasks or leo's belt mod

>Is it worth the price of not having any Resistences or Life ?
depends on your build desu
>>
when can you swtich to MoM + EB comfortably ?

I got a dark seer, but right now at level 57 I'm better without the 2 keystones with 2600hp and 1200es.

I plan to go eva / es for my gear, already have a carcass jack, I figured a high eva would synergize well with MoM EB and a dark seer.

Damage wise I'm fine, but its the first time I try MoM since they moved the keystone, so I'm not an expert.
Looks like its not worth without Ghost Reaver, the fight against Kaom for example was annoying since I have low eva right now and got hit constantly so no mana.

Do you also need the faster ES recharge delay if you want MoM to work fine, on top of high eva ?
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>>156972025
>Do you also need the faster ES recharge delay if you want MoM to work fine, on top of high eva ?
It's not really worth the points, there are things you cannot evade that will also interrupt your ES recharge. You shouldn't switch before GR or get MoM really.
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>>156971659
They don't have a taunt so they don't hold aggro in a MMO sense. If you want to keep him in place you need a Decoy Totem. Stone Golem also taunts but its unreliable.

For zombies and other minions without taunt they just increase the odds they won't attack you.

Basically how it works if a monster has a ranged attack or spell it randomly chooses some in range to attack with it. If there is only you then they will choose just you. If you have 6 zombies and you then you have 1/7 chance of getting targeted. This is most dangerous for summoners when they are fighting against monsters with leap slams.

I would say that this "rule" is either folly or Izaro don't give a fuck cause he tends to ignore anyone that isn't a player.

Just use Decoy Totem. That shit is retarded OP.
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Is that force shaper wheel a retard trap? That 5% phys damage as chaos was looking neato.
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>>156966424
>http://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1777370
ty love
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>>156972290
> If you have 6 zombies and you then you have 1/7 chance of getting targeted.
Source: your ass

There has never been any official indication players and minions somehow share an equally weighted chance to be targeted at random, nor would such a behavior be shared across the board for all monsters/bosses
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>>156972241
Alright thats how I feel too, weird how MoM used to be THE damage mitigation keystone a while ago.
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>>156971659
I ran skellies + zombies and he still jumped over them to dunk me when I was just running around in circles. It will happen. It's not like MMOs where there's aggro generation based on damage/healing. Maybe it's like monster hunter where distance/using an item is also a factor for AI targetting. Simply existing and you have a chance of getting aggro.
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jesus christ, you newfags are insufferable
stop coming here and whining about every little thing
just play the game and learn from your mistakes
we aren't here to babysit you, for fuck's sake
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>>156973556
well said
>>
Asking for advice about one little thing is babysitting?
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>>156973748
Yes, now, get back to posting mspaint pictures of crows, and cat photos.
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>>156972441
it's good for noncrit and ok but not really worth the points for crit
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>>156973838
too many cummies?
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>>156973556
>>156973624
You can't stop me
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>>156970809
it wasnt, and thats why you are retarded kid.
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it's kinda weird putting yourself in the shoes of a new player starting in current patch

on one hand, much of the game has become much more streamlined and easier to get into, on the other they added so much shit that it must be pretty overwhelming for a new player to take in at the same time what older players have had several years to gradually assimilate
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git gud
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>>156974236
I won Demi the first league I played.
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>essences make playing summoner the easiest it's ever been
>summoncucks still bitch about how GGG is keeping them down
really Xs my Ds
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>>156974426
and you couldn't do it now so you just talk about it all the time
why am I even responding to you
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>>156974426
yeah and the game was much simpler back then. did you read what I said? things new players have to learn/get acquainted with that didn't exist before:

loot filters
master crafting
bloodlines mods
torment ghosts
new rogue exiles
a4
labyrinth
ascendancies
prophecies
map mods from previous leagues like beyond
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>>156974984
A4 is a dumb argument since, well, it's another Act. It's literally holding your hand through the thing and it's linear as fuck.
The rest is easily explained or easy to work out what they do aside from things like Ascendancies. I think prophecies could be stated somewhere that it's a type of "do x get y" thing.
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this is a hardcore arpg
the fun comes from learning
stop being such a pathetic faggot
you're just as bad as fucking pt and lifting asking for tutorials and shit
fucking retards
kill yourselves
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>>156975750
retard
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>>156975750
dude
are you okay
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>>156975750
how is your flickerstrike katana build going ?
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>>156973117
My ass is still smarter than you.

Soure: My ass that is enlightened by its own assgience
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vaal spark
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>>156975820
retard
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>>156976946
get out
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>>156975649
>A4 is a dumb argument since, well, it's another Act.
A4 is the first real difficulty bump in the story, but what I meant by that is that new players have to absorb all that new information that is already memorized by more experienced players at once instead of gradually

if they don't know about vendor gems, they might never update theirs
if they don't know about masters, they might not be able to fix their gear
if they don't know about exiles, they might not know why the game puts a RT Xandro against their evasion ranger
if they don't know about bloodlines, they might get randomly killed by a blue pack

because there are so many more variables now that can affect gameplay, it's harder to pinpoint where you fucked up: passives, gear, gems, flasks, etc
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>>156977056
Wait wait, are you implying that the rogue exiles that appear are based on what your shit is?
>>
holy shit would you shutup already you fucking spastic cunt
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Can someone explain this builds tree for me?

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1693015

Tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQDAAAGAdwDhwSxBS0GIAvBDHMNjRQgFHUV7BX2GNsaPhutIWAj9ikuKaUslC5TMHwxsDWSNe831DrtPfxDMUSeR35KfUrITZJQR1FHU7tXDVeXWGNYdVuvXz9gQWIXYnljcGVNaGVr1G6qbzt0oHTtdPF2rHfXd-N4DXloeu97FHvUfLh9dYFBggeElITZh3aJcYrwjM-NfZVmo4qpbqrNrY2xs7XyuR29Nr6nv9XAGsEEwYvEgsqQy_XPftIh02_TftRS2L3ZYdl82sHcveOf5FHnD-dU6UbsXO0_7g7vDvGs8i_yQfOb9kj8xf66

The guide seems fairly popular, but the tree makes no sense. Why take nodes that only give you armor + res?
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>>156977056
get the fuck out of this general
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>>156977310
no, it's an example of an exception. evasion works fine and is probably even better than armour early on because you don't need much to evade 50% of hits so your ranger feels fine and untouchable. then you meet a random rogue exile that completely shits on your sole defensive mechanism. or you arrive at daresso and you die 10 times. of course to an experienced players who already knows the mechanics, this isn't such a big deal because they can adapt or simply not get hit. but to a new player trying to learn the rule, they might not recognize the exceptions and thus never really learn from their mistakes.
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>>156977310
I don't think he is. I'm pretty sure he's just saying there's a lot more to the game than there used to be and that there is a learning curve for new players. In that example he's saying the player would expect to be safe due to being evasion only to die damn near instantly because they were not aware that rouge exiles could have RT. That's something the game doesn't just show you and something new players usually won't know until they rip at least once and decide to read the wiki on the subject.
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What's the Gensokyo of PoE?
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>>156977421
if you're talking about cloth and chain, it's because it's the most efficient pathing to IR

it's not like there was a conscious decision to grab that cluster in particular, it's just the straightest line to the more interesting cluster behind
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>>156977421
>forum build
>cyclone in 2.4
>champion
>popular
it's SHIT
>>
>roll a character
>play until it's time to start mapping
>stop playing because the game becomes a trading simulator
Anyone?
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>>156978172
>play just fine without trading until maps
>suddenly trading becomes mandatory at some arbitrary point in time
huh. probably never played SSF in your life, huh kid? too used to entering a cheat code whenever the game starts to get hard?
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>>156977758
That too, but mostly was thinking about Sentinel and Diamond Skin. I mean really, using 2 points to get Sentinel? Touching Diamond Skin at all?
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>>156977976
First year on 4chan?
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>>156978342
Psssh... nothing personnel kid, I coild beat ur ass 10 times in SSF...
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>>156978383
Sentinel is questionable for 2 points but it's also 24% eva and 24% armour which is really good for hybrid + IR

Diamond Skin is fine for one point. You spec out of it when you get better gear and it's a tree catering to poorfags and beginners.

min-maxing makes no sense until level 90+ anyway because you can move around a point here and there with no consequences
>>
SSF retards are the biggest retards
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>>156978745
>I like to shortcut progression by buying all my shit then quit the game after 1 week because there's nothing left to achieve but spend 50 ex crafting rings for +10 stat
you're a bigger retard than the ssf retard I'm afraid
>>
>>156978857
>I like to play the most inefficient way to artificially increase the """""""""""""fun""""""""""""" and PRETEND the game has more to offer when it clearly doesn't
lah mah owl @ you
>>
>I like to restrict myself, it's more fun playing this way!
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>>156978857
>i like to play essence drain and earthquake with trash gear
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jelly a single of my totems has more dps than 20 of your builds, poeg?
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>>156979941
That's just part of the fun, also why early game is almost always more fun than late game in any ARPG and I wish for an APRG where there's always that feeling of fighting to survive while scrounging trash gear
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>>156980073
>4.7k life at 90
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>>156980073
>chance to hit 87%
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>>156980073
>BL CoH
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>>156980295
just shitcrow things
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:)
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can excrement avians please stop posting and leave?
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>>156980073
GET OUT SHITCROWS REEEEEEEEEE
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>>156981297
herpus via derpus *goes witch and puts all points into lightning*
>>
I wanna make a super-tanky ranged char that abuses poison.

Would this non-crit TS/Barrage Champion using Reach be good?

poeurl.com/OcX
>>
>>156886083
Why is he so cute
>>
When do daily missions stop being overleveled?
>>
who's ready to GRIND today
>>
>>156981027
>not the superior Starforge pure physical crit build
>>
>>156982183
>Starforge pure physical crit build
Not but, but how does that work out? My experience with physical crit builds has been that hatred gives you so much damage it's stupid, and the survivability gained from freeze is just amazing. I can understand using an Oro's because sustaining frenzy charges is difficult unless you plan on using hunter's mark and blood dance boots. Even then, you still run dry every now and then. An oro's would fix that.
>>
>>156982716
>Not but
not him, but
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>>156960924
Barely more expensive than LL BV. Plus if you do life-based, you can get decent gear like belly or coil for pretty cheap.
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>>156922078
Sounds very """fun"""
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>>156943319
This has to be a troll.
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>>156977741
>gems waiting for you to level up

Post your own deaths scrub.
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>>156955913

Alright, so, I retweaked it for ci with more chaos, it's alright, but i think someone else can do better. Not to shit on your build, but because i feel like you could get more milage out of the ascendancy like this.

http://poeplanner.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>poeplanner
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>>156983002
who the fuck said anything about LL BV?
>>
>>156984541
>122 points
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>>156971545
I had one and sold it and rolled a new char. Armor is terrible right now, my fucking evasion builds with basalt up have better survivability than my dome jugg
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>>156981642
Anyone?
>>
Anyone want an EU aura cuck for mapping? running tripple purities, haste, grace, determination, vitality, wrath, anger and vaal haste/discipline

im bored out of my mind
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>>156985505
why would you make a support character if you don't have a regular mapping group
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>>156986151
I have one, that doesn't mean they're always available 24/7
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>>156986221
why would you make a support character if you don't have a mapping group that suck your cock instead of the other way around
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>>156986497
you can stop worrying about my build decisions now
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>>156986863
Nope, we gotta state our opinion about EVERYTHING
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If I get energy recharge rate will it affect the regen from life regen/ZO?
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>>156980073
>tfw you are too dumb to calculate your dps
feels bad.
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r8 my groundslam build. Ran across a hegemony's recently and I want an excuse to use it.
poeurl.com/Odl
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>>156988421
>poeurl.com/Odl

jugg and fortify ?

else you have zero defenses
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>>156988607
Pretty much. Not looking to farm shaper or anything. Just an excuse to have some fun slammin and jammin.
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>>156988127
No, those are two entirely different stats.
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>>156988857
get a 24% increased radius enchant, there is a few on poetrade
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I leveled another character to 70 only to come to the realization that I liked my other character a lot better.
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>>156983457
He wanted to know how to setup a CA build.
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how do I farm essence of delirium?
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>>156991910
Spam mesa for essences. It's an incredibly tiny map with essence spawns on par with far larger maps. Corrupt Scorn, Envy Misery, and Dread essences when you encounter them
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What's the point of the unique jewels that do nothing but lower your maximum frenzy/power/endurance charges?
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>>156992928
mostly they're just to fuck with you
the -1 frenzy charges one has some niche use due to the amount of "on full frenzy charges" effects, but i don't think it's ever actually been good
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Spent 200 jews trying to six socket an armor and failed. Should have just waited til I got 350.
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>>156992928
Literally nothing.
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>>156993205
I'm at 200 and counting too on a carcass jack
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Is there a single fuckin boss in this game that isn't 70%+ immune to chaos damage
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Is crit multi always more efficient for damage than crit chance (with controlled destruction) or do I have to start doing math?
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don't bother making a new

it's pointless

this game is dead
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new map
>>156994834
>>156994834
>>156994834
>>156994834
>>156994834
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wow what did i just say
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i don't take orders from anyone
no master and no god
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