/evn/ - English Visual Novels

>>156750908
Kawaii

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>tfw it's the you start killing characters one by one part

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This is dungeonanon, back in action for maybe a couple more hours. Just now I have coded a simple Etrian Odyssey-style first person dungeon renderer with a minimap. You can add new rooms, the minimap and viewport automatically change to match the room, and changing direction changes the view and compass accordingly. Next up is arrowkey controls, after which I'll try room-to-room navigation, followed by adding non-generic-corridor rooms.

What's everyone else working on?

>>156755878
are they rooms or vaginal openings

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>>156750908
>he changed the OP we had for years

Keymaps in Ren'Py seem like one of the more arcane systems. Does anyone have a method for binding newly defined actions to keys?

>>156759149
Thanks, Freud. I'll fix the art later.

>>156759325
Sorry if I caused any offense. We needed a new thread, and I thought since I had the chance I would try and make the OP tidier.

>>156759325
Let's make a new one, and let this one die?

>>156759754
I think this is the first time I've actually seen one of us shill our own thing in the OP. Or at least do it in a way that wasn't sneaky. Props.

>>156763119
>progress image is shilling

mate

>>156763221
It's not?

>>156763119
You forgot HW's invasion

>>156763426
u jelly of his progress?

>>156763668
hi jelly anon!

>>156760720
Everything dies in the end, have patience.

>>156766579
I just don't want next thread to have this shitty OP

>>156766696
what did he even change about it? who even reads it?

also i'm glad that shitty tumblr is gone from the links. or did someone do that before?

>>156755878
Looks nice, anon. I love EO, keep up the good work.

>>156766696
why would it? NORMALLY we pick different random screenshots every time, it's only the text that stays the same from OP to OP.

>>156766834
i think the wording was rephrased a little, in a way that the poster thought was more clear but some people think is less. but who cares? small wording changes happen occasionally when whoever's posting the OP decides to

>>156769931
>Discord missing
good

>>156769931
discord wasn't usually in the OP anyway though

>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2921787/exogenesis-post-apocalyptic-tokyo-adventure-visual/posts/1681967

well i'm depressed now

>>156771915
Death comes for us all.

>>156772280
yeah. the stuff he's going through hit way too close to home for me though

>>156771915
>Among her last words, in her final brief moment of clarity a week before she became totally incomprehensible, she said she was sorry I couldn’t finish the game. That meant many things to me which I won't discuss now, but I’d never forget that morning in the hospital when my uncle woke me up and I groggily listened to my dying mother apologize over a video game.

>It’s just a damn video game.

desu she has more perspective than he did
sorry he's hurting but that doesn't excuse his lack of commitment to something he should have done years ago and got a lot of money for

Can someone post screenshot from /evn/ discord chat? I'd like too see how "not dead" it is

>>156775350
Just open it and see for yourself you double nerd

>>156775880
B-but I don't want to join gay club.

>>156779879
reminds me of that stupid logo all over twitter

:0

>>156784509
0-0

>>156787826
on evn, we are all tied for last

>>156790923
kek

why no link from old thread to new one?

>>156791931
hi, you must be new to /evn/.

even when a thread has hit bump limit and is obviously dying, it's rare for people to bother making a new thread before it dies completely in order to link to it.

the last one didn't even hit limit, it just died because no one was posting. so of course there was no new thread yet.

ded

clearly the ugly OP image has doomed this thread

>>156800693
at least the op made more progress than you

>>156801224
REKT

>>156801224
sure but i made more money than OP

>>156801556
Working as dishwasher?

Bumping out of pity

>>156801686
rolling in my VN millions babe

>>156802607
You forgot your trip, cuddlebeam

>>156803373
i don't know why people keep thinking i'm him. i'm far superior.

>>156803494
Post something "far superior" than HP

How do I con people into proofreading what I've written for internal consistency, spelling/grammatical errors, and quality?

>>156806947
I'll proofread 1000 words or so.

How do you even find long-term editor? Any trusted services?

>>156810681
exploit your friends

>>156810681
No idea, mine just wrote to me one day and offered his service

pepe

>>156819772
dumb imageless frog poster

someone post progress

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>>156822814

>>156823281
stop posting hate symbols, this is a christian imageboard

dont

>>156753649

Maximum overdespair

How's today going for you senpaitachi?

So with regard to killing off (major) characters, how do you?

It seems like either you have to put in a ton of work writing outcomes where they dead and they alive, or else their survival and/or death is ultimately insignificant after they've played their part in the story (I'm thinking in particular of Dougcarly in Walking Dead or Kate in Life is Strange, who could all live or die but after that point never got more than bit parts)

>>156833648
Sometimes with a hatchet, sometimes with a gun. Really depends what is at hand.

>>156833827

In graphic detail I hope

>>156834091
Not really. It throws off the vibe of the story as a whole if it starts getting gory. At the end, the main character throws the big monster off the cliff in a dramatic battle and if you don't keep one of two people alive, they just fall straight to their death. Showing them splattered across the rocks ruins the noble self-sacrifice mood from earlier in the scene.

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>>156835103
Yeah it is kind of distracting when a story pulls that sort of thing

A dark tone is one thing, but unnecessarily detailed depictions of violence out of nowhere can throw a reader off

>>156836424
it's not that big of a deal

it can add a lot in meaning and atmosphere unless it's just thrown in for no reason

>>156833648
A lot of the characters in the project I'm working on can either live or die. Like you mentioned, I'm simply putting in as much effort as I can into both outcomes so that it will be a worthwhile read no matter what happens. I don't think there's an easy way to get around it.

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Should I stream this character scene?
Its H-scene of course

>>156843265
Yes, post strem lenk

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>dead thread
>dead people
>dead progress
>dead everything

>>156845623
https://picarto.tv/Aimlessart

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>>156845645
Oh, its you!
WHEN?!?!/11

>>156845808
Soon!
Somewhere in 2017

dead

fucking discord circlejerking faggots.

>>156851451
Relax, nobody is even online but me right now.

Are we dead yet?

bump i gues

>>156851451
no one stops you from shitposting yourself to keep the thread alive

>>156864072
>emoji meme faces
the worst shit

>>156864532
It's fine in small doses.

>>156864072
I feel like too much is going on here with xbox hueg character sprites along with the head shot in the text box

>>156865347
Agree - I usually defend heads in text boxes but in this case the sprites are close-in enough that it's not necessary

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Hey! Wake up!

>>156869009
[x] insert dick

should i make an english vn?
they just dont ever seem to have enough "gameplay" so i worry they seem boring

>>156870310
>should i make an english vn?
no

>so i worry they seem boring
they are

>>156870310
>should i make an english vn?
If you are not insanely motivated about it, don't even start

>>156870310
>they just dont ever seem to have enough "gameplay"
hey here's a thought maybe when you're considering making a video game you should do the slightest bit of fucking research into the genre

we have english VNs with gameplay all over the place, some of which get kicked out of VNDB for having too much gameplay

although, again, wtf: if you want to put gameplay in it WHY WOULD YOU NOT JUST DO THAT. why are you saying 'Oh, but EVNs don't have gameplay'. are you afraid the evn ninja squad is going to come to your house and behead your dog because you added a puzzle?

So what sells more these days, dating boys or dating girls? Would you be interested in a game with both a male and female protagonist who have different stories, all of which are needed to get the full scope of the plot?

>>156874834
Hard to give a solid overall on that. Dating girls with honking shiny tits seems like a good safe bet if you want to pander, but it's not like other games don't sell.

>Would you be interested in a game with both a male and female protagonist who have different stories, all of which are needed to get the full scope of the plot?

Hardcore VN fans will appreciate it, but a lot of the mainstream audience is lazy buggers who complain about being asked to play more than once. Doesn't mean you can't do it, just expect to run into a lot of players who played a single route and complain that it wasn't fulfilling.

>>156874834
that's dumb

>>156875489
The plan is to make every route feel like a full story, but to only have the grander plot come together if you at least play as both protagonists once. Basically, I'm trying to make the "choose your gender" part have more relevance than just having a dick or a vagina by giving them distinct personalities, backgrounds and skills.

>>156876189
Sure, go for it, some people will appreciate it

>>156879618
Stiva kind of looks like a faggot

>>156887827
Haven't seen the show, but isn't the point of it supposed to be yaoi? Isn't GxB blasphemy?

>>156888419
What is fanwork for if not blasphemy?

>>156887827
>that face on the right

>>156887827
Too gay for me.
Why can't we have cute trap vn?

>>156889468
ded in 30 mins

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>>156889468
>tfw no VNs where you romance cute boys

>>156895738

There are so many though

>>156895738
i want to make a trap fetish vn but i don't want to deal with the trans community

>>156903338
trans community is shit and to be ignored permanently

just indulge in cute boys and if anyone tries to make it a gender identity thing tell them to fuck off

>>156879618
what game?
interesting style

>>156903338
just ignore them then, there aren't that many of them actually.

it's not like they shut down aj tilley's crossdressing VN

the problem is when you have a game that simultaneously appeals to progressives and pisses some of them off

Post art I can steal.

>>156907172
Can you just steal my entire project?

>>156910589
That depends how good it is

Convince me that it's worth stealing

Safety first

>>156911134
It's not, but take it anyway.

「」

Okay so hypothetically

if I'm referring to someone's body but it doesn't actually belong to them, they're just watching through that body's eyes

would it be a better idea to call it "my body" or "_'s body", where _ is the name of the person in charge of it normally

>>156930925
I would say "my," but actually put it in quotes in the text.

"I move 'my' body etc."

>>156931040
But they're not the one doing the moving, they're just watching as it all happens in first person

So _ would be doing the moving of the body

I feel like it would be an okay thing to interchangeably refer to it as both _'s body and my body

>>156930925
Is this possession or some kind of farsight type thing?

For the former it depends on the story, I think. "My" sounds like the narrator is becoming them, "name's body" sounds like the narrator is using them.

For the latter I'd go with name's body or just he or she.

>>156931605
Here I will lay it out in sequence

Person X is in a body, Z, controlling it.

Person Y comes in and takes control of that body, relegating X to a watching status.

Now, from the perspective of X, would it be "Z's body" or "My body" that is being controlled by Y?

It seems interchangeable but I'm not sure if one sounds better to people

ANSWER ME OR I EXPLODE

>>156936743

What is your question

>>156936862
RIGHT ABOVE YOU

>>156939689

That's Z's Body, clearly

>>156939689
You should say, "the body that I am currently inside of and have no control over". Every time.

>>156942128
That's what I'm trying to avoid

Rather than typing out _______'s body, which is super awkward, it might be better to avoid specific mentions of it or just use "my body" in some cases because it'd just get tiresome for the reader, but if it wouldn't be that much of a pain I could overlook it

>>156942206
"My body" would most likely be tuned out, just as "said x" usually is.

>>156930925
I would go with both and have the narrator just as confused as you are. 'cus that's some confusing shit.

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AWAKEN!

>>156944893
that's not confusing at all

X controls Z, then Y takes control of Z while X watches from the perspective of Y while not doing anything

it's like the simplest thing in the world

>>156944903

WAMUU!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>>156945016
I feel like that explanation needs chibi characters and a chalkboard

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>>156944903

>>156949890
You gay or something?

>>156950106
Gay for your feminine dick

>>156950425
Awww. We can cuddle if you want.

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>1 more day
CAN'T WAIT

>>156953292
I am so glad for the BL audience

>>156953292
wich one is which?

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>>156953292
How they did it?
There's no more dark outline around redhair, but only that one spot.

>>156953713
>no more dark outline
if you don't have eyes, i guess

>>156953713
u wot? There's a cast shadow around both sprites' left sides.

>/evn/ is either shitting on devs or dead
>no game discussion takes place
>no feedback

Why does this even exist, what's the point of this thread.

>>156954294
posts like yours, complaining about a thread you're not a part of or enjoy

>>156954294
no one forces you to come here

No on-topic posts means thread should be reported because people are using a /vg/ general thread for /soc/ bullshit.

Which means the thread should just go away altogether because it serves no purpose but to shitpost in.

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>>156955445
>sob sob

>>156955445
>look mom, I posted this again

now I'm going to bump this dump out of spite, thanks for motivation nerd

What's happening?

Should I use prose?

>>156961041
Nobody knows.
The thread was doomed from the start t b h, I'm going to stop resisting.

>>156963019
As long as writing is interesting, coherent, and clean, I could care less how it reads.

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Sheepstorm here, with what I promised earlier a few threads back.

>>156966228
top is cute
bottom is ugly/cheap

>>156966228
It's alright, pretty cute.

>>156966228
It looks familiar. What game is this?

>>156976793
nazi loli

>>156976793
no need for Africa, let's purge the darkies - the game

>>156966228
they're unique enough but those colors still feel a bit odd

it might be a personal thing regarding the saturation

>>156903338
I have literally never heard a trans person have a problem with crossdressers. As long as you don't call THEM crossdressers, I see no reason why they'd care.

Stop using m-muh SJW boogiemans to try to hide the fact you're just too lazy or untalented to make the game.

>>156985170
>652x489

>>156985467
I assume it was resized for forum posting

>>156985387
Some of them take serious issue with the term trap, even if they are aware of the cultural context of anime trash.

>>156985387
>Stop using m-muh SJW boogiemans to try to hide the fact you're just too lazy or untalented to make the game
Not him her?, but you're not going to get anywhere by trying to call people out on being incapable of doing things

You're projecting your own insecurities really damn hard

>>156985387
You misunderstand, I don't want the trans community thinking I made a game for them

>>156985387
You do realize crossdressers and drag queens were kinda banned from Pride Glasgow recently because their mere presence and existence was offending trans folks, right? It took a lot of internet backlash to get them back.

You're severely overestimating SJW's tolerance or even capability of understanding someone's intentions.

>>156988525
that's fucked up, drag queens have done more for the lgbt community than most people realize.

>>156988291
Then put into description something like: "This is a game for white straight male human beings"

>>156989008
>straight male
>trap
idk

>>156990426
>idk
You gay?

Geh, maybe I should join aggydaggy's Halloween jam to make people unwitting testers for my shitty rpg battle framework.
>>156966228
When are you going to finish yours senpai? N-no rush.

>>156887827
>that blatant FREE ripoff

hahaha god dammn.

>>156994927
wasn't it just some fan game?

>>156989008
I want someone to make a game where girls date traps.

>>156999785
Eww.

>>156999785
See
>>156953292

>>157003308
traps, not pitfalls

>>156953292
I guess i'm a slowpoke but there's no steam release for this game?

>>157004236
no, it's too sex-centric afaik

>>156963019
no, do entire vn in poetry

>>156988525
I always find it so ironic whenever I hear a gay or trans person being a bigot. It's amazing how intolerant they can be. You'd think they'd be able to sympathize, considering their own situation.

>>157006070
hardly new, plenty of black homophobes, female racists, and jews who hate gypsies

>>157006070
human shittiness doesn't go away if you're a minority. this case is pretty stupid, though.

random fun fact: the average life expectancy of a black mtf is 35 years

>>157012364
but why

donald bump

What resolution should a desktop wallpaper reward be?

>>157030197
800x600

>>157030197
400x300

>>157030197
0x0, it will represent this thread's progress.

>>157034496
Excuse me I have made a lot of editing progress but the character limit here is 2000

>>157036296
Excuse me, but I don't believe you.

>>157037871
YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING

>>157037871
>Excuse me, but I don't believe you.

i don't either

>>157038128
You don't know Jack.

>>156982818
The bottom ones are the old versions.

>>156993226
Totally forgot which things to include.

dead horse

Deadest thread.

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Can't wait to pirate this one

>>157049571
cue autismal fit of rage by our resident antipiratefag newfriend (unless he/she died of a heart attack already, which I'm honestly hoping is the case).

>>157049795
fuck off poorfag

>>157049795
Nice bait mate

Welp, uploaded Sheepstorm 0.8. Haven't gone around implementing elemental damage mechanic yet. I don't have a good design.

>>157052416
>Sheepstorm
Why?

b

>>157049571
I actually can't tell if it's a guy or a grill

>>157049795
I'm one of the people who vaguely chides people for pirating shit but in thie case who cares it's not even out yet why would I bother responding?

>>157056620
You haven't even looked at the title of the game have you.

>http://erogedownload.com/downloads/highway-blossoms/#more-8459
>pirate this game but also here's a link to buy it

what?

>>157056620
everyone in that VN looks like a man or a pre-op tranny, perhaps it takes place on another planet where people are jacked on testosterone or something

>>157060809
Believe it or not, some people both pirate and buy games. Some people use pirate sites to tell them about new games. Some people like to 'try before you buy'. Some people pay for games and then download the pirate version anyway in order to get around DRM or ensure they have all the optional content pre-patched.

Other people just want to pretend that they do.

So, really, it comes down to "why not"?

>>157065704
>both pirate and buy games
>Some people use pirate sites to tell them about new games
>Some people pay for games and then download the pirate version anyway

it's reassuring to know i'll never be as pathetic as these people

>>157066189
as pathetic as people who want to play games without hassle and also want to support the industry?

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>>157067936
the only thing more pathetic than video game pirates is pirates pretending to have a sympathetic plight

>>157068535
In a dev thread full of people who do get fucked from piracy? No, not really.

>>157068535
when the plight is 'your DRM is shit' i am sympathetic

it's a small fraction of pirates though, most of them are just cheap

>>157068769
what?

>>157069003
I'm a professional video game developer, and I support piracy!

>>157069685
So do I! Go pirate from my competitors so they go out of business quicker and leave only me standing!

>evn devs

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>>157072485
Where is it going?

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>>157072557
To the front. It's bringing people to their death.

Some of them will find peace, rest, or themselves. Or nothing at all. Just pain.

>>157044371
Fuck

>>157060809
>>http://erogedownload.com/downloads/highway-blossoms/#more-8459
> click around site
> people bitching about content of things they haven't bought.

why. Pirates are literally on the last place when it comes to people that get to bitch about things.

>>157077157
>people bitching about content of things they haven't bought

That's what most people do and it's entirely valid

>>157077431
Unless it's something whose merese existence is offensive, no. Doubly so when you're outright stealing from the developers, then complainign about why they don't release more stuff you like or why X wasn't done differently.

>>157077567
There is literally nothing wrong with complaining about the content of a game when you can see all of that content through a variety of sources

I don't have to buy Civilization V to know details on what it has in it

If I pirate it and then demand that the devs pander to me, a customer, then yeah clearly there's an issue

>>157077824
>If I pirate it and then demand that the devs pander to me, a customer, then yeah clearly there's an issue

... That's exactly what I mean.

>>157077993
If it was, you didn't convey that well at all

>then complainign about why they don't release more stuff you like or why X wasn't done differently

It's definitely valid to want X thing to be done differently even if you're a pirate

If people who never buy a game are allowed to say they wanted particular things done differently, pirates are too

>>157077157
as you can imagine people who get premium content for free are entitled as fuck.

>auto function disabled

why is this allowed?

>>157078934
B-but you HAVE to read it very carefully to understand just how DEEP and thought-provoking it is! Or something.

>>157078934
I didn't want too many buttons. Is it okay to delete if skip is there?

>>157081358
What?

Just bind it to a key, like spacebar

>>157081358
Auto and Skip serve different functions. Skip is for getting through shit fast on replay, Auto is so I don't wear my hand out clicking constantly (especially if you are a certain dev who thinks its funny to put a {w} after every single period)

>>157081871
it's bound to ctrl by renpy default

>>157082567
If there's no clickable button you need to make sure there's information available to the players who don't know all the keybinds (surprising how many people buy evns and don't know that they can get to the menu/save by right-click)

>>157084531
I won't be surprised if it turns out some """"devs"""" don't know about the keybind

did you guys know if you press 'v' you enable self-voicing on your project? Free voice acting!

>>157085993
isn't ctrl bound to skip, not auto?

>>157087865
yeah really immersive to hear
[CHARACTER NAME]
every single line

>>156944903
Huh, what's this from?

>>157088590
oh. I misread and thought we were talking about skip initially

bum

>>157093118
gardener

ladykiller is out, how is it apart from the art and the writing?

i guess what i'm asking is, does it have interesting mechanically? i know the subject matter and art both don't interest me but i wonder if i should play it to learn from the 'game' parts of it

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bumperino bumperino have some boring progressino

Bet you 10 bucks that Uncle Shiro on the Discord is Omniknight

>>157100693
FUCK I NEED A HOSPITAL BED BG

I need so many BGs. Like probably 40.

>>157100778
What is he doing? Why would he sneak into a cicrclejerk chatroom for a dying thread?

>>157096895
it's not really something you could imitate.

>>157101159
ayyy cut some scenes then or make them happen in the same locations

>>157101470
I've been pretty conservative and cutting any more areas would be a poor idea

>>157088923
This >>156843265
>>156845645

>>157101872
what kind of world spanning epic are you making my man? I'm chipping away at a project that's pretty much all just BGs and closeups of scenes and even then I don't need more than 20.

>>157102271
I have a large amount of BGs ready but I'm going to need quite a few to finish things off

Luckily they're mostly generic so I can likely track some free ones down somewhere

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Here's the prologue to my VN if anyone feels like reading it.

I'll release a newer version that enables auto mode and improves some of the sound volume sometime soon.

https://mega.nz/#!E8lEBLIK!drD65c-bwnNfzzqtdY3ZbFnHZBiGcuvtNrs1fmlwXSg

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>>157100693
Mind sharing your methods?

ladykiller is interesting.

>>157111032
post screenshots

>>157111032
Post dicks

>>157103247
this is like the anti-tiddie

ladykiller is fucking horrible.

art is blah
writing is shit
h-scenes go on fucking forever
funnay references and maymays
nothing people do makes sense
rape scene is fuckin weird

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>>157119558
subtle, clove

(used ingame for a phone call)

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>>157119558
this is one of the best pieces of h-art, it's all kinda bad. nothing's in full pictures, only cutins

>>157119558
Leak it here, so I can judge myself.

>>157119558
>rape scene is fuckin weird
Do give details, can't believe her SJW ass even wrote a rape scene?

>>157119862
God damn if that is the best please post the worst

>>157119862
Looks like it's empty place between her legs.

>>157120548
it goes forever
the dude forces a blowjob thinking it's her brother
she, a lesbian, turns bi from this and starts enjoying it
he pulls her pants down and oops.gif (he's queer like literally every character)
he doesn't give a shit that you're not the person he thought you were, or a girl, and rapes you anyway
he says it's okay because he didn't come inside
she's fine with it now too and the "honest"-tagged option is to beg for more
afterwards he says it was her fault he raped her due to the argument they had beforehand
the rape scene's never brought up again by anyway and immediately followed by comedy

it took a giant shit on the themes of consent and safewords and shit, and was completely needless, plus sued a lot of classic abuser arguments (you made me do it, you enjoyed it because you came, etc)

it's the weirdest fucking thing from someone like clove and i'm surprised she isn't being called on it at all

>>157121027
UPLOAD IT TO MEGA

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>>157120638
note pixellation, also pubes are sometimes drawn sometimes not

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>>157121274
hurr i meant aliasing

more in this one, feels like shading was half-finished

>>157121382
cute.

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JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP SENPAI

>>157121652
>Which is a better videogame?
Mine!

>>157121027
please post screenshot of the choice flag with the honest option for proof
this is so disgusting, I don't want to believe its real

>>157121027
The butthurt from /u/tards will be glorious.

>>157122657
already warned them

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>>157122595
another part

>>157122686
Sorry to have doubted you, anon...

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>>157122826
this whole scene is staggering

>>157122809
I'm sorry you had to suffer through this for a $30 pricetag, I won't let your sacrifice be in vain.

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just... fuck

fuck me

fuck

>>157122686
>>157122920
A straight scene has never felt so gay.

>>157123298
I feel really bad for you but at the same time your suffering keeps the thread alive

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this is what's said *after* the rape.

"you liked it"
"it was your fault anyway"
"you made me do it"
"i'm a great guy"

all the classic rapist and abuser excuses

>>157123628
fucking hell
CL has serious mental issues
y'know, aside from being a tranny

>>157123628
>maybe your brother will learn from this that not all men are jerks
I don't even.

>>157123298
>nigger in a space suit
LITERALLY SPACE SUIT

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how do you do, fellow nerds

>>157124001
Some nerd, low health limit breaks were only really prevalent in 7 and 8.

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>tfw your writing isn't nearly as shit or hamfisted as all of this and you've got far less experience

So, any SJW praise for this rape game yet?

>>157124806
all the beta testers were singing its praises for how gay it was
guess they didn't get very far in game

>>157125050
Pretty sure the beta testers were all friends of hers. Not that that's a bad thing, but it can make it hard to give unbiased feedback.

>>157122809
What happened to his face? He looks like one of those maymay pictures where people scale facial features down so they look tiny.

>>157124239
>danbooru
>not gelbooru
Weak

>>157120548
You people have the strangest ideas of what it means to be into social justice.
Plenty of us are still fucking perverts who get off to loli rape and are aware of the difference between fantasy and reality.

>>157123707
If writing that means she has serious mental issues, what does that say about almost everyone else in the h-game world?

There is nothing inherently wrong with intentionally writing an abusive character.

(Note: I haven't played the game yet and don't intend to. But I have deliberately written abusive scenarios in fiction, and played games with rape fetish scenes. Haven't you?)

>>157127003
She has been marketing her game as a super gayfest for its entirety of development. To then chuck an unavoidable het rape scene just before a good end is a fucking disgrace.
Baiting your readers is the worst thing you can do as a writer. Those rape fetish games don't go and advertise themselves as pure love stories, do they?

>>157127003
I wouldn't have said mental issues myself, but most rape stuff in hentai tends to not go much into the psychology of the rapist beyond some canned dialogue. What gets me is that this scene is the last H in a game that made a point of consent and safewords... and then took a steaming shit all over it.

The apologia after the scene is weird, the needlessness of it is weird, and it's a surprise to see Clove, who generally seems to try to put a message in her games, do this. Plus the while "raping a lesbian into liking cock" is weird for her, and doesn't fit at all with the tone of the game.

>>157127358
>"raping a lesbian into liking cock"
>doesn't fit at all with the tone of the game
Isn't that why she's in a bind?

>>157127239
>She has been marketing her game as a super gayfest for its entirety of development.
The webpage is misleading, yes, since it strongly implies you cannot have sex with men even if you want to. Unavoidable het rape means this game needs to go off the /u/ list in the next update and be carefully warned so that only people who are okay with bi content get involved.

If you follow her twitter, though, this is not that surprising. She's openly and routinely complained about /u/'s hangups and about the kind of SJWs who get pissy about ideological impurity, she's clearly into a bunch of weird porn. There was the whole 'gold star lesbian' explosion over the demo. The game is generally described as a smutfest, not a yurifest.

> Those rape fetish games don't go and advertise themselves as pure love stories, do they?

actually I have been more than once surprised by h-games that promote themselves as normal romance and then end up having sex scenes that are pretty rapey, but everything is forgiven because LOVE. Kind of off-topic though.

>>157127358
>What gets me is that this scene is the last H in a game that made a point of consent and safewords... and then took a steaming shit all over it
Getting a laugh out of that would be enough to get me interested in checking it out, if the art was decent.

>>157127358
>What gets me is that this scene is the last H in a game that made a point of consent and safewords... and then took a steaming shit all over it.
The dialog seems to imply it might be a consequence of how manipulative you were during the playthrough? I'm hoping eventually a guide will come out to make it clear how things work.

>>157127582
>this game needs to go off the /u/ list in the next update and be carefully warned so that only people who are okay with bi content get involved
The game looks like ass, but are their feelings seriously that delicate?

>>157127757
You don't really need delicate feelings to get pissed off by a scene of a lesbian turning bi from rape, and then being blamed for the rape.

>>157127757
If it's unavoidable onscreen het rape then yes, that's a pretty big problem for /u/.
Optional het is allowed, though some people will still bitch about it.

>>157127757
One thing is when there's het not related to non-lesbian characters, another thing is when the lesbians get dicked. It's an entirely different thing and yes, many yurifags are not okay with it.

>>157128291
I meant
>het not related to lesbian characters

>>157122657
The general consensus was pretty much already that no one was going to buy it since they all look like dudes.

>>157127918
To the point where it would need to be pulled from a list of yuri games despite the vast majority of it being yuri, and then carefully warn people about the one instance of bi content? They'd be that upset by it?

>>157128291
>>157128075
I can't really relate. I could understand if it were simply because of the rape, especially if it were violent rape. Or maybe something like guro, or unavoidable NTR out of nowhere, etc. But it's an issue because it's straight sex? That just seems really weird to be offended by.

>>157128404
wow
you've never been to /u/, have you?
these are the same people who get angered by lesbian characters having backstories where they were raped/sexually abused by men because it means they aren't pure

>>157128541
I've heard stories from this general, but I'm not really into yuri, so I've never felt the need to go there. Their reaction to these things simply isn't something I can easily comprehend.

>>157128404
Well I don't know about /u/ and yurifags but the "lesbians actually like to be dicked" cliche is a complete and immediate turn off for me, to the point where I kinda find it offensive, especially if it has rapey undertones.

>>157128404
lesbian getting wet about being raped by a dude? Yeah, I’d be pissed, and I’m generally fairly easy going about these things. Loved The Menagerie.

>>157128770
How is it hard to comprehend that people who like stories about lesbians wouldn't like a story that has a lesbian enjoying being raped by a guy?

>>157128817
Turning a lesbian straight with the power of your dick is kinda hot

>>157128964
For a guy, yes.
That's the problem. It's a fantasy clearly not aimed at lesbians.

>>157128964
When I signed up for it sure, not when just paid for $30 of impure girls love.

>>157129071
CL may have chopped the dick off but its power still remains

>>157128964
Not if you're a yurifag, and this game was targeted at yurifags to begin with.

>Features
>Six nights worth of explicit, consensual, kinky lesbian sex.

>>157129361
false advertising, ho!

>>157129127
PHANTOM ERECTION!

>>157129559
i can help with that.

>>157129619
put bulge in pants

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>>157129775
I feel someone should eventually address the apparent hygiene problem of Cloves characters

Props to CL for actually including something interesting in the game, all this other "consent" bullshit sounds fucking boring

>>157122686
>>157122809
>>157121027
this is what i get buying things before some other sucker on /u/ plays it

>>157132394
Ask for a refund.

>>157132008
the consent scenes are pretty creepy. it's the one game i wish they'd included a cute demon crashes STOP button in the top part. they mentioned a safe word but it never happens.

This is mostly from the bdsm chick who really isn't optional.

anyways yeah i wonder what possessed them to include het rape. there's way worse shit than rape she could have thought up

Cute demon crashers is better
and free

>>157133552
CDC isn't that good, so... that's actually pretty accurate

>>157136536
I like your choice of screenshot.
Now, after painful ladykiller flop I honestly believe that Sakura games are probably best commercial evns out there.

>>157136846
That's because you have shit taste, anon. But at least you know how to fap.

>>157136846
they're exactly what the appear to be, no more, no less. gets repetative after a while

>>157137148
>they're exactly what the appear to be, no more, no less
which for fapbait is exactly what you want
they're not the best EVNs but they are the best EVN porn

>>157138008
>best EVN porn
not for long

>>157136846
I have a hard time believing that. I've only played through (most of) Sakura Dungeon since I'm a huge yurifag, and the writing and characterization are cute enough but extremely shallow and unintresting even for the main characters. And my impression is their games seem to never have remotely interesting plot or story at all. Nothing I've seen about the stories or writing from summaries or screenshots of the other games indicates they're much better. Sure most of their games have solid art and seem inoffensive, but that's a pretty low bar to set.

>>157138902
>pretty low bar
Yet no one surpassed it.

>>157139087
Blatantly untrue. Hell, even most of Winter Wolves' crappy games are better-written than the Sakura ones. They just don't have the delicious shiny tits to cream over.

>>157139369
>WW
>better-written
Just stop. You are lying to yourself.

>>157139451
Read Loren, read a Sakura game. No contest.
Hell, read Always Remember Me, which is trite and silly and full of a heroine going OH NOES all the time. It's full of cliches, it's badly designed and grindy, it's boring, it still has more plot and character development than a Sakura game.

>>157139728
Why are you comparing an ecchige to a galge? I can't believe I'm defending WC, but nowhere did they advertise a gripping storyline and deep characters, they just make games about shiny tiddies and not pretending to be shakespeare or claiming to Revolutionize The Genre or whatever.

>>157139728
>Read
Oh boy, have you "read" Planet Stronghold: Colonial Defense, made by WW?
Shit is so ugly - I wouldn't bother to pirate it.

>>157139879
>Why are you comparing an ecchige to a galge?
Because someone literally said it was the best EVN and ignored requests to qualify that to the best ecchi EVN.

>>157140152
Nah, the art's ugly and I'm not interested in the gameplay so I haven't even looked at it and tehrefore can't comment on the writing.

>>157139879
Not them, but no such distinction was made when the anon above claimed sakura titles were the best commercial evns, so it's being based on all of its merits, and not just whether the tiddie highlights blind us from how bad everything else is.

>bought ladykiller for $30
>it's now 26.99
>rape scene warning

CANT WAKE UP

>all this talk about Ladykiller
>no mega link yet

Please spare us the $30

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http://loveconquersallgam.es/post/107612234928/games-of-a-year
>Curtain: Story-wise, it’s kinda indefensible, revolving around a completely gratuitous rape played for shock value.

>>157143489
w e w