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>Got Nothing Personal'ed:
>>156697294

>DLC Trailers/Gameplay/Details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic4EHyRm_Tw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nRve2XRUiA
http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/21/12999624/dark-souls-3-ashes-of-ariandel-dlc-preview-hands-on-everything-we-know

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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yo wadup
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>>156736821
FC WHEN
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Still playing Dark Souls 3?

>shortest game in the series
>bonfires out the ass
>filled to the brim with shitty references
>On-disc cut content that will be sold as DLC
>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them
>No optimization
>rehashed areas
>rehashed NPCs
>rehashed animations
>teleporting dogs
>invading sucks
>Heavy armors sucks
>armor sets don't fit properly
>brown and grey
>shit AI
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>Magic itself does reduced damage for PvP
>awful scaling balance
>FP is the most awful casting management system introduced yet (worse than DeS mana, which had better regen options and more efficient)
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one locked behind the final boss
>bland NG+
>awful covenants
>no blue eye orb
>blue sentinels and darkmoons the exact same
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for special weapons resulting in less weapon variety than BB
>very little moveset variation
>existence of Carthus Rouge
>WA are mostly shit or copypasted powerstance moves
>no tech
>No animation canceling
>No backstep i-frame
>rolls have too much i-frames and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>no dragon covenant
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>pyromancy is the quality of casters
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB
>the DLC looks trash
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Will I get banned for using CE to spawn 99 Siegbräus?

Which things will trigger the anti-cheat system for DS3?
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Why aren't we planning an event for after the DLC release?
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Although, I'm getting tired of rehashed Armor/Weapons from DaS1/2, I would like to see a return of Ivory King Armor/Sword. If Velka's Rapier is not in DLC, I'll be pissed off.
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>>156736991
Is shitposting more fun?
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>>156736821
How many hot loads did Lorian blow into Lothric?
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Cute.
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>>156737110
As much as there are things from the previous game that I miss, I swear to fuck if even 1 of the 15 weapons in this DLC are rehashes I'm going to refund the whole damn thing.
Fuck that throwback shit.
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>>156737230
Tracers incoming.
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FC AT HIGH WALL
PASS dsg
META IS NOT ENCOURAGED
See you there!
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>>156737202
>first boss is bloodborne out the ass
>second boss is demon souls out the ass
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>>156737110
>Ivory King Armor
no, it was ugly as shit, one of the ugliest sets in franchise because of ugly low-res textures
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>>156736821
Anyone want to coop before Matthew blows me away? Likely be without power for a few days after.
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>>156737191
How often do you think he could let loose a proper one?
Rather than "how many" it's probably better to ask "at what rate" and "over what interval"

Since going simply as fast as the refractory period allows will empty the well in no time flat and clearly isn't sustainable, his rate must've been something lower than that. What's the largest number of time's a demigod could blow a load in one day, every day, over a long period without a major impact on volume or consistency?
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>>156737338
>implying he won't go full Corvian mode with wings in third stage and Sword of Law
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>>156735767
>>156736810
Long repost, now FORMATTED

Its nerfed hard, but not... totally impossible. I did pure Faith and while it was difficult early, it becomes very rewarding mid-late.

Start off by running to the Dragonrider and immediately watch him kill himself. Buy Lightning Spear and then murder the priestess by pushing her off the ledge or something so you can get her hood for ~fashion~ and extra spell casts. Then run to No Man's Wharf to get Emit Force, which is surprisingly actually stronger than Lightning Spear up until a certain point.
From here it gets tough. I actually couldnt kill The Last Giant with these alone, and had to deal the last 15% of his hp by punching him to death with my chime. However, you can summon Masterless Glencour to help you get the the Old Dragonslayer and buy Heavenly Thunder off of Targay after you run off to Huntsman's Copse to get the Token of Reprisal. This is your bread and butter but Ruin Sentinels are still pretty much impossible solo because they dodge too much shit and you have to be pretty lucky to reliably hit their skinny hitbox and melt them with Heavenly Thunder.
You can kill Sinner, run back to the Copse, kill Skeleton Lords with Creighton, get the ascetic from Lost Bastille, kill NG+ Skeleton Lords for their spell casting Ring+2, and boom, youre pretty much at the casting spear soft cap.
Progression from here is mostly the same. Getting to the Pardoner dude after Magus and Congregation is highly advised though, as he sells a second Heavenly Thunder, and another Emit Force, which should be about equal in power to Lightning Spear at this point.

Thats about it until you get Great Lightning Spear, which you can then use to melt Darklurker and get the Dragon Chime. From there on out you can comfortably yell "LIGHTNING" as you have tons of Lightning Spears, Heavenly Thunders, Great Lightning Spear and become a boss melting machine. Sunlight Spear is nice but not mandatory.
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>>156736821
The only Yaoi incest pairing I support.
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>>156737110
It's like they rehashed all the bad shit then forgot to add some of the good stuff too.

>can't make a four knights of gwyn playthrough
>smoughs set is in the game tho
>dead gwyndolin wearing a black version of the moonlight set
>you can't get it
>NO PLUME

thanks from.
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I want gough back.
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Protagonists as roommates living in a house together

Hunter
>Literature major
>Snobbish, likes to try new things
>dating Doll

Chosen Undead
>Architecture major
>friendly, gay
>dating Solaire

Bearer of the Curse
>Football player
>frat boy, not too smart
>dating Shanalotte

Ashen One
>Art major
>socially awkward, leaves his sculptures and paintings everywhere
>dating Firekeeper

Slayer of Demons
>History major
>stoner, doesn’t like to go out
>dating Maiden in black
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>>156737013
Why is this npc looks so retarded ?
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Am building meme hexer in dark souls 2


Should I feel bad?
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>>156737013
>okay time for a new paired weapon
>dual rapiers?
>paired ultra weapons?
>new unique type paired weapon?
>the nearly finished gold + silver tracer?

>no
>a straight sword paired with a shield
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>>156737771
It's a summoned player supposed to make fun of minmaxers.
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>>156736956
Mask of the Mother and what armour is that?
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>>156737771
Because it's a player
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PUT YOUR SIGNS DOWN AROUND HERE FOR MIMIC FIGHTS

Password is "MIMIC BATTLE" and please use unupgraded weapons, this shit is hard to set up.

MIMIC

BATTLE
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>>156737771
>mask
>chain
>loincloth
It's a parody of DaS1 meta builds.
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>>156737485
wow....Uhh I'll think I will go hexer like the pepe guy said
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>>156737846
>Espada Ropera and the Royal Dirk didnt return as paired Drang Twin Weapons, like they were rumored to originally planned to be
Sadness
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>>156737857
Giant's.
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>>156737971
ACTUALLY THE PASSWORD IS "MIMIC BA"
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>only siegward is here for the FC

Who the fuck asked for it?
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>>156737857
>not knowing giant's armor
leave
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>>156738018
Ya you get 30 Dark Orbs and only 8 Lightning Spears and maybe 7 Emit Forces, so it is kinda difficult.
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>>156738137
Nobody did?
We just finished a long FC about an hour ago. Nobody actually wanted a 3rd FC in one day.
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>>156737857
GIANTS
GIANTS
GIANTS
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>>156738278
Then I got memed on. Time to dispose of these two.
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>>156738154
The colours were so off though. That's why I didn't see it.
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>>156738218
>>156738018
Just hex it up bitchboy
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>>156737971
I'm here but where are the summons egg man
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>>156735580


a few updates ago they made it gay when trying to reload saves from separate steam profiles


I haven't looked around to see if anyone figured out a new method in months though
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Can someone help me out with nameless king? I'm getting pretty impatient with having to go through his dragon to get like five seconds learning his pattern.
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>>156738520
For sure lemme just boot up my ColecoVision
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what are the best sorceries for pvp?
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>>156738495
I think you can revert to an older patch, save, and then use that save.

Probably only viable up until the DLC hits.
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OC
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>>156738403
>time to dispose of these two
I wanted one though, sorry dear friend.
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Anyone here actually play on PS4? FCs on PS4 etc? How's the general population compared to PC (if you have both and can compare).
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>>156738819
Sorry, but I can't host for only 2 guys, it's pointless, since you can summon each other. Thanks for showing up though.
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>>156738810
not sure if that's actually the case though. he might have fucked up and showed up late, gone hollow and now serves as a judge due to circumstance
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All of my friends are dead
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>>156737971
>>156738109
>>156738474
Gotta quit now, D&D.

Sorry.
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>>156739046
That was fast
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>>156738520

I'll go dig out my gameboy color and be straight with you senpai
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>>156739026
>Gundyr, or the Belated Champion, was bested by an unknown warrior. He then became sheath to a coiled sword in the hopes that someday, the first flame would be linked once more.
t. armour set
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Anyone on ps4 with a mule?
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>>156739167

he was late before that though, that description is when you go back in time and fight him in untended graves
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>>156739030
Please don't put it like that
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Why the fuck does this game even allow you to summon people to do levels? who is so fucking brain dead they need someone with them to walk through a level? I can understand the need for using them during some boss fights or invasion heavy areas but come the fuck on people. I'm trying to invade and every time I do its a gang of fucking 3-4 people doing the lamest shit.
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>>156739101
I didn't know we were going to play. all you need to set it up is rapport if someone else wants to host. Just remember to back up your save.
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>>156738970
I understand friend, i will stay behind and give you time to escape,
>>156739363
I miss my friends
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>>156739498
Well some people summon people just to gank people who invade them, or to help out their friend who is bad at the game.
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>>156739350
Exactly. That's what I'm referring to. Christ I really wish I didn't have to explain it this thoroughly.
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>>156739591
STOP POSTING PICTURES OF MY FCS AND SAYING SAD THINGS
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>>156739046
Dungeons and dragons?
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>>156739498
>Why the fuck does this game even allow you to summon people to do levels?
Because it's fun.

I get your frustration though. I've been invading early game (SL30) lately and having a much better time than I did when I was invading late game.
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>>156739498
the worse is when you're invading as a low lvl nontwink into twinked lowbies with high level summons

also fuck losers who twink with hornet ring, I always played lowbie invasions to avoid that shit but the 1 shot cancer is fucking horrible nowadays don't think I can pvp in this game anymore
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>>156738831
So I guess not huh.
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>>156739731
Sorry friend, atleast i kept my promise,
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>>156739751
Yeah.
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>>156740002
T H I C C
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I really liked ds3, don't get me wrong. But I had so much more fun playing through das and ds2 and bloodborne as well. I dont really know why. No im not saying any of them are better than the other, those are just the ones I enjoyed. I wish it wasnt like that. Ds3 just seems..empty
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>>156740002
Please no
That's just too sad
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>>156740126
What do you mean friend? Yes i guess my armor is pretty thick.
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>>156738520
On pc btw, forgot to mention pass dsg
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>>156739030
we grew to smart for dark souls
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>>156739046
I like to go to their threads to help me come up with names for my ds characters.

I tell them my quality build halberd user is a battle master
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>>156740251
I'm sorry friend, please accept this image as a good apology.
>>156740379
Understandable, i just miss you guys.
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Should have just removed the weight system.
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>>156740609
should have made the weight system like it was in Dark Souls**********
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>>156740609
A small buff to vit would help a lot I think or maybe large buff to havels rings
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>>156740609
>can't equip full havel's set without fat rolling
yea i'm mad
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>>156740498
I'm going to host tomorrow, don't worry.
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>Havel's Helm weighs more than Astora Greatsword
>provides 1-2% increase in absorption than fallen knight helm

Literally who thought this was a good idea?
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>>156740817
No I am
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>>156740817
I hope i'll make it.
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>>156740294
help pls
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What's a good name for my astoran bandit who will discover faith and become a faith wielding dex paladin?
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>>156740873
Fuck off, I already said I'm going to host. You can join it though.

>>156740945
>literally cannot stop posting pics of my FCs
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fun
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>>156740817
Good. Tomorrow is officially the first day of my vacation time so I'll be able to properly enjoy some good ol' FC action.
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>>156740992
Brandon
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>>156740992
xxdmbfalchiondestroyer
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>>156741009
Cause i love your FCs
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>dsg fcs after the DLC
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>>156741476
>tfw the only decent pvp weapon in the dlc will be the sword + shield
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>>156740847
>Weight: 11.2
Holy shit
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>>156741476
I can;t wait for all those people trying to spam the cheesy anime WAs form DLC weapons while autistic FC regulars with quality builds rollBS them with meta weapons and point down because NO FUN ALLOWED
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>>156741476
I'm going to continue coming same as always using the exact same setup, why would a faithful knight of catarina change?
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>>156741615
>>156741656
>implying javelin won't be god tier ( against ugs)
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>>156741696
Vincent why are you so autistic?
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>>156740962
God bless whoever helped me just now
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>>156741731
I'll have you know I haven't posted at all tonight.
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>>156740847
>>156740847
Poise needs to start reducing damage during HA or something to justify the shit that is the weight system and the unnecessary amounts of poise some armor gives. I mean, sure, you can fit Havel's in some builds and the flat defense is nice, but the armor system as a whole is borked in several areas.
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Who are the best characters in Dark Souls 2, and why are they Raime and Veldstat?
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What do you guys think will be the best SL for playing the DLC and getting lots of invasion and multiplayer?
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>>156741731
I am not Vincent, I am also not autistic.
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>>156741869
what about alonne or ivory king?
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how do you pronounce "Oceiros?"
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>>156741882
Journalist characters were SL100, so SL50 is probably about right.
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>>156741993
I say Oh-sigh-ros
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>>156741993
Oz-row-ez
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>>156741993
>Ignorant slave cant pronounce the king's name
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>>156741993
OcELAAAAUGHHHH
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>>156741993
Oh-seh-ros
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I fell like I've hit a brick wall in Demon's Souls. I can't beat Flamelurker or Maneater, and I only challenged Old Hero once but I can't even get to him because I keep dying on the way. My only option now is to continue with Valley of Defilement but I'm pretty sure I'll run into the same problem with whatever boss is in there.

What level should I be for this part of the game? I'm level 31.

inb4 git gud
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>>156741993
this ninja got it>>156742057
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>>156742112
fuck you Oh-SAY-rohs
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>>156741993
I say Oh-say-rohs

though, other people I hear say >>156742057
and I think that's the correct way
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>weapons and armor weigh more
>ultra weapons cost more stamina
>you get less HP from VIG
>RoFaP and Havel's ring are shit and give barely any bonus
>can only swing a greataxe 3 times at 40 END + RoFaP+2


why
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>>156742208
what's your build, weapon, are you using flame defense ring + water veil
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>>156742208
go valley of defilement and explore
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does anyone have any cute art of Artorias and Ciaran?
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>>156742589
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>>156742671
artorias more like deadtorias
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why does Krimheld invade you in the Untended Graves? isn't she supposed to be on guard duty in the archives?
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FC still on? i just got home and i want to bully some bfs
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>>156742562
>Knight
>Points in VIT(20), END(20, and STR(22)
>I have the ring, but no magic

>>156742571
That's what I'm doing now after rage-quitting Shrine of Storms. Seriously, fuck that place.
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>>156742749
GOTEM
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>>156742758
Time is convoluted
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>>156742671
>what are you doing :3
>I'm just getting some rest before heading off to my next assignment. They're sending me to Oolacile to rescue princess Dusk and put an end to this whole Abyss business. I might be gone for a while, don't wait up
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>>156741993
"oh-sare-ross"

aka "O SEH ROSS"
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>>156742849
No
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>>156743009
don't the "gods" talk in old english?
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Does the BKG still benefit from the Leo ring like it did in ds1?
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>>156743250
Gough does. Ciaran doesn't.
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>>156738831
There are far more players on ps4
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Just got scholar of the first sin for the pc. holy fuck i didnt know it was wayyyy different from the xbox 360 version. The different enemy placement makes it feel like a whole new game. pretty enjoyable too
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How do i become a parry god like Holy Knight Hodrick?
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>dragon slayer ornstein
"orn-STEEN" or "orn-STINE"
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>>156743250
Old english is a pre-norman germanic language. If they were speaking in old english, you wouldn't understand a word of it.
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>>156743250
Ciaran doesn't, but I don't think she would say ":3"
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>>156743349
Yea, scholar fixed a lot of problems with original ds2 except it also added a few problems
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>>156742071
>>156742167
>>156742261
>>156742383
>>156743096
Are you guys retarded?
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>>156741993
オスロエス
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>>156741993
Reminder that saying it like "Osiris" is wrong. The "e" is there for a reason.

It's basically the name Osiris, but OsEiros

There's more focus and pronunciation on the E like you would say the word "heir" and the "ross" at the end. It's not "Ris" like Osiris.

It's not "Osiros" aka Oh-sigh-ross either. That's also wrong.

The "O" isn't pronounced like "Oh my god". It's pronounced "O" like in "Omni".

Pronounced correctly, it's:

O-se-ross

"Osseiross"
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>>156743396
Be an absolute madman like him
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>>156743349
There is no such thing as SotFS for ps3 and 360
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>>156743487
are you lol
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If an invader invades while Host has 1 other phantom, I let the invader just kill them both.
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>>156743417
I say Orn-STEEN because I think it sounds better with Smough.
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>>156743505
It still baffles me how they managed to fuck that up so badly.
You could literally just plug that into google and get the english name of the historical figure. Yet instead they botched it into some nonsense spelling
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>>156743417
does anyone say EinstEEN? FrankenstEEn?

people that give ornstein this weird exception piss me off
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>>156743437
She would to Artorias.
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>>156743548
or you could just call him

Shit Boss #40
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>>156743553
there is but all it adds is dlc and aldia it seems
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>>156743549
I'm gonna do it, how do i output as much damage as him?
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>>156743437
girls tend to play up the fake cute factor when talking to guys they like even when it's not natural to them, it can actually get quite jarring. it's almost like an involuntary reflex
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Why is Artorias so shit? He accomplishes nithing in his life
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>>156743548
Reminder that his name is Osroes, referencing a line of parthian kings who are frequently co-opted for popular japanese fantasy writing. The localizers misread the kana for his name and tried to guess at a phonetic spelling, because the actual historical reference went over their heads.
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>>156743482
what problems if you dont mind me asking?

Also fuck that pursuer and dogs guarding the silver serpent ring
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>>156743771
he made it to the four knights of gwyn, what the fuck did you do?
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>>156743771
>He accomplishes nithing in his life
Just like the souls fanbase
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Anyone really like dragons?
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>>156743654
no but we say Bearen-stain :^)
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>>156743775
>>156743637
If I had to guess, the reason for the spelling mixup was to bring his name in line with Ocelotte's for whatever reason.
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>>156743852
>he made it to the four knights of gwyn, what the fuck did you do?

A lot:
>Killed Manus, where artorias failed
>killed the four knights and Gwyn himself
>Became the dark lord
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>>156743775
This anon is smat

Listen to what this anon say
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>>156743662
>>156743763
>implying :3 is in lordran vernacular
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>>156744000
WHY WERE THE NAMES CHANGED?

IT'S A FUCKING CONSPIRACY
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>>156743710
It's just normal dark souls 2 with the dlc. It's not any different.

SotFS is only for next gen consoles and PC
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>>156743983
Fuck off Oceiros.
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>>156744369
Aldia DOES show up on previous versions
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>>156744209
It's not like we have a full dictionary.
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so how does /dsg/ feel about fighting Allfather Lloyd in the dlc?
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>>156744484
Not exactly sure why you are quoting me and what you may be trying to say.
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>>156744369
they added aldia in a patch for the older verisons
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>>156744653
extremely upset, but hopefully the scythe person will become a new waifu/trap waifu.
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is the fc still up?
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>>156744880
no
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>>156744863
but anon, Velka has been the patrician's waifu since DaS1
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>>156744369
This is one of the ways Bamco dropped the ball. They released a Scholar of the First Sin patch, a PS3/360 Scholar of the First Sin, a PC Scholar of the First Sin upgrade, and the PS4/XBONE Scholar of the First Sin rereleases, all of which include the Scholar of the First Sin boss, of course.

They made it as retarded as the possibly could.
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>>156744653
pretty nito, more bosses the better. a lore character is a plus
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>>156742853
i don't know how you're having trouble then
are you using purple flame shield? it would be better to learn the timing for the explosions

try getting the crescent falchion, flamelurker is weak to magic
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>>156744698
You are still confusing me. I know Aldia was added into normal das2.

You didn't need SoTFS edition for him.

The SotFS edition for ps3 and 360 is the exact same as thr standard edition but includes the DLC.
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The only way to make poison work is that they do a temporary -10 penalty to offensive stats but leave toxic as is.
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>>156744880
If you want to make a new one i would love to join.
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who is the sasuke uchiha of the souls series?
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>>156744880
Post picture of your character instead
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>>156745183
hawkwood
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>>156745073
>The SotFS edition for ps3 and 360 is the exact same as thr standard edition but includes the DLC.

Everyone is aware of that. The reason people were correcting you was your comment >>156743553
>There is no such thing as SotFS for ps3 and 360

Which was inaccurate.
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If dark souls 2 did anything right its optimization. i was pretty surprised i could run it on a toaster
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>>156745007
Yes, I'm using the Purple Flame Shield

Maybe my weapon is to blame. I'm using a Bastard Sword+2. I also have a Long Sword +2.
But I will try to get the Crescent Falchion like you suggested.
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>>156744959
My problem and what I was implying is that SotFS for 360 and ps3 is the exact same as the standard dark souls 2 game.

There's no difference between them if your ds2 was/is updated as the only changes are patched in anyway as you mention.

You don't get any of the shit that changes the game like the ps4, xbone, or PC versions with all new enemy locations and new chest and weapon location changes or being able to summon and be invaded by more phantoms.
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>>156736821
>DS3
>Lowered my resolution to 1360 x768
>I looks like how I remembered dark souls 1
>can't bring myself to turn it back to 1080

What's happening to me?
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How viable is the Chaos Blade for Dark Souls 1 pvp?
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>>156745421
It literally is true though as the only difference is a name change on the box.
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Anyone want to help me test new FC spots? I just need you to summon me a bunch at each one to make sure the spawns aren't shit.
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>>156745484
>what I was implying

That may be what you were "implying", but it wasn't what you wrote. There is such a thing as SotFS for PS3 and 360, so >>156743349 was a completely correct post and >>156743553 was incorrect.
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>>156745718
PC?
I'll be on in a moment, just lemme know where to put my sign
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>>156745718
Just name the spots, we know the quality of most already
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>>156745743
But there is literally no such thing as a SotFS for 360 and ps3.
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do peopl still pvp on ds 2 pc?
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>>156745526
absolute top tier

http://mmdks.com/8e8m
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I kind of want to have a FC outside of nameless king's boss room, fighting on the clouds is fucking awesome.
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>>156745836
see >>156744959

You can walk into a store, buy a PS3 game with "Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin" on the case, on the disc, and on the title screen.

There literally IS such a thing as SotFS for 360 and PS3. It is a product that physically exists.
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>>156745773
Yeah, pass dsg
First one is near Abandoned Tomb bonfire, in the room where the big demon is. My sign's at the top of the first staircase, I'll add you on steam once you get me
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>>156746003
It's been done before. Arena is cool but a lot of people complained about framerate issues and one vocal autist (who's no doubt still here) was triggered by the fact that it was so deep in the game
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Dark Souls 2 is like being married to a woman who is attractive, charming funny and intelligent, you are soul mates and everything is perfect, right? She is the perfect woman. You could not ask for a more better woman in the world. You love her, and she loves you. Only she has one flaw; Every 5 minutes she punches you in the face... For no reason. Even at night you wake up, she punches you in the face, you recover, get 4 minutes 38 seconds of sleep, then she punches you in the face, and you love her
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>>156745287
False, at least hawkwood had the decency to die.
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>>156746003
We've done it a few times. It's kind of annoying since you can't get back out and some people get really bad fps there
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>>156746080
Why are you linking me to a picture of the standard dark souls 2 game with all of the DLC included?
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>>156745994

Why the 45 dex, you could just pump for more Vit
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>>156746085
I got ya
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>>156746254
Because it is titled Scholar of the First Sin.

The whole reason for this argument is >>156743349 claimed they played the 360 Scholar of the First Sin version. >>156743553 claimed no such version existed. >>156743553 was wrong, there is an Xbox 360 game you can buy that is a version of Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin.

You can keep on trying to convince yourself you were technically correct, but >>156743553 simply is not a true statement. Especially not "literally" true.
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>>156746143
Fuck i'd love to do that it's so fucking great.
>>156746237
Damn i'd really like to do it since it looks so great.
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>>156746254
You fucking retard.

The problem that is being discussed here is that, base DaS2 with all included DLC and free Aldia patch, is also called "Scholar of the First Sin" for PS3, 360 and DX9 for PC.

The actual re-release, that changes up the levels and loot and fixes a bunch of shit, which is only available for PS4, X-Bone and DX11 for PC, is also called "Scholar of the First Sin."

The problem is that if you don't do the research, you would think that both versions are one and the same, when in fact they are very different experiences.

Seriously, I don't know if you're just baiting for (You)s or if you really are this stupid.
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is deep protection worth it?
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>>156746458
pyromancy cast speed caps at 45

45 is significantly faster than 40

it's more important than 58 more HP
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>>156746458
50 vit is fine and casting speed caps out at 45
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>>156746254
Because Bamco was stupid enough to name two different version of Dark Souls II the same thing.
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>>156746672
pve yes

pvp lol
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>>156746672
>are buffs worth it?
No. Anything that is not quality is not worth it.
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>>156746528
Yeah it's titled SotFS but it's not SotFS. It literally is just the standard edition.
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>>156746882
good meme
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>it's an Ornstein cosplay
>with a shield
why do people do this?
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>no fc
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>>156746663
>>156746842
But it's not any different from the patched standard base edition.

It literally is just the base game patched and including all the DLC.

It offers no different experience from an updated standard edition.
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is dragonslayer swordspear good?
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>>156747117
>tfw want an fc
>no one joins
If you want to host i'd for sure come.
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>>156747216
I can host, as long as there isn't something special the host has to do at a "dsg" fight club
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> mfw made 300k fighting with mornes hammer at sl 80 +4 pontiffs
Why do people suck. I summoned one guy named number 5 and we destroyed teams of 3 invaders non stop
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>>156747162
Like I said, Bamco was stupid enough to name two different versions the same thing. I am completely aware of everything you keep saying, but no matter how many times you say "but it's just the standard version", that doesn't erase the fact that Bamco named it Scholar of the First Sin.

It is Scholar of the First Sin, because it is called Scholar of the First Sin. There's no arguing past that point.
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>>156747360
Just summon nigga, make the FC
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someone make an fc
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>>156747210
No, it just has all the strengths of a onehanded spear and a 2handed glaive in the same package with decent scaling and a ranged WA, that's why nobody has ever used it.
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>>156747162
>>156746920
You're too stupid and stubborn to be worth talking to about this.
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How do you run past this guy to get the bonfire? I tried cheesing him but he always hits me before I can get back down the stairs, and arrows to like 1/10,000th of his hp
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>>156747515
Alright, lets we'll just do some high wall shit put your signs in the reg spot pass dsg
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>>156747517
>asian ann perkins
I need this
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>>156747517
Post your character
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>>156747596
Go up the stairs and to the spot closest to the bonfire on the right. Then wait. As soon as he starts too jump down run for the sunlight alter and wait for him to leave
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>>156747541
Or he's just fishing for (You)'s, just ignore him and let him be stupid.
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>>156747436
It's named that but it isn't SotFS.

>>156747541
No. I'm actually much more smarter than you are. Your just not smart enough to realize it.
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>>156747596
Shoot him from the stairs, run like hell and take a right once you're inside. Stay out there for a little bit and the dragon will fuck off, letting you loot the bridge.
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What's goin' on, guys? This is MartyrsBrigade99 coming to you once again with another session of /dsg/.

Alright guys, we're back at it with a little series I like to call "The General Thread". First off, lets give a show of appreciation to our good ole /dsg/. Now a lot of times -- or should I say most of the time. Actually I cant even say that, the vast majority of times -- the primary form of posting in these threads are pictures. And that’s alright; thats cool and everything, but to turn around and uh... you know, disrespect others for not posting pictures... Well I only have one thing to say to hotshots like you: Get off it.

If you think that pictures are more important than all the writing styles, all the information, and uh... all the community contributions, well then I suggest you re-evaluate your posting style.

Now before any of you jokers from the reporting brigade jump on me, I am not dissing the usefulness of pictures. But until you can demonstrate for YOURSELVES, that you can have a successful and positive thread using ONLY images, then you cannot refute my beliefs. Besides, here in the brigade we like to do things a little differently.

Now it's funny, because every single high speed pasta reporter and every hotshot image poster who has come in here with their ridiculous accusations, not a single one has been able to demonstrate that images can be used as the primary form of communication. And that's that.

Until next time...

MartyrsBrigade...

is...

out.
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FIGHT CLUB AT HIGH WALL PASS DSG PLATFORM PC PUT YOUR SIGNS DOWN WE NEED PEOPLE
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>>156747946
>black man thinks he can read much less write
>had to have his 7 year old type it out as can see in picture obviously
>str8 up google
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>>156747386
Because greathammers are shit in duels, but in teamfights they're amazing because you walk in when X phantom isn't entirely focused on you and 2shot them for all their HP.

Smough Ganks in Dark Souls 1 were the most evil because of this. Dodge one? Find. Dodge 3? Lmao
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>tfw i had to buy ds 2 scholar edition because i dont have enough money for a ps4 and bloodbonre
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>>156737013

If that's what the new sword and shield plays like I might actually be tempted to use it
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>>156748142
I really love mornes, at +4 I can one shot the anor londo giants. And the amount of times I landed mornes rage Is astronomical.
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>three FCs in one day
*rips bong*
we did it lads
*dabs*
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>>156748120
I'm not getting summoned at all.
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>>156748531
*Cringes*
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Do you want DWGR back?
DaS3 rolls are already worse than DWGR
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>>156748531
>he fell for the NEET meme
Ahahahah
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>not even being summoned
fuck this faggot host
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>>156748617
ABSOLUTELY! IMAGINE THE GIMMICKS!
DWGR, CALAMITY, PRISONERS AND OBSCURING DRAGON FORM
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>>156748617
If it was cosmetic only, sure. I miss the animation, and rings in ds3 are already fairly useless, so no losses there.
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>>156748617
Carthus Bloodring already exists.
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>>156748679
He's level 71 so maybe he already killed the boss and he can't summon anyone. IDK
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>>156748574
>>156748679
>>156748828
we've been tricked
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>>156748828
>he's killed the boss
The fuck? What a waste of time.
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>>156748807
>no animation
>doesn't give your backstep i-frames
Not DWGR m8
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>>156748698
where's demon's souls ?
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While the armor is all very similar, it does mean that you can really just throw stuff together
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>>156748120
is this a cool new dsg event where i put my summon sign down and wait for 15 minutes

because it's really fun, pretty on par with jousting and gladiators
anon, don't kill the area boss before fcs. you can't summon more than like 2 people
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>>156748828
>summoned a metafaggot
great
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>>156749087
no point putting it in there since its just a nexus and 4 linear paths with minor side paths
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>>156749087
Do you really need a picture for Demon's Souls?
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>>156749148
I can host guys starting a new journey now for slabs
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>>156748954
Doesn't give the distance increase either
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>>156748698
DaS3 looks worse here than it is to some degree. It's only based on the names that pop up as you enter areas, so things happen like splitting up Darkroot Garden, Darkroot Basin and Darkroot Garden into three areas, Dragon Shrine and Dragon Aerie or Lost Bastille and Sinner's Rise, all the bosses getting named areas in Bloodborne or breaking Yahar'Gul into two pieces.

Dark Souls 3 would seem a lot bigger if they bothered to segment the areas with as many names.
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>>156749206
Who
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Oh fuck she knows I've been eying her fine-ass cap


What do I do /dsg/
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>>156749280
its a work in process. feel free to edit it
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>>156749280
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Is the Berserk ultra greatsword build viable in DS2?

Wanna be guts.
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>>156749415
Just use this one
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>>156737851
Can you please provide me an example of minmaxing
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They should change backsteps to not have iframes, but hyper armour, full hyper armour from from 0 to final of the animation.

You can backstep, through an attack, you tank the damage but you still perform the backstep

Makes them not just iframe OP shit like they were in 2, but makes them useful instead of what they are right now: not.
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Thoughts on my invading characters name? Hugh Mungus
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>only fought one person at the fc
>its dead already
C'mon guys there were at least 5 signs at the fake fc
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>>156749573
We are trying to find new areas for the FC to be in currently
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>>156749573

Fight clubs are gay, good riddance
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>>156749507
holy shit thanks man
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>>156749646
I could host one at Carthus, but Im at the one at high wall
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>>156749562
Mike Hawk
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>>156749507
>Arranging the DS3 map specifically to make it look less linear
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>>156736821
Requesting the Bloodborne version of OPs pic please
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>>156749487
Greatsword is one of the strongest weapons in the game
Forbidden Sun is a good hidden cannon
I wouldn't suggest using avelyn it's not very good
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I'm sorry maxwell and beandaddy the other guy wasn't summoning you two so i decided to.
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>>156749487
>image

>Mexico (German)
>Venezuela (Dutch)
>Dominican (Italy)

Anyone in south america who doesn't look like pic related is a yurop.
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>>156749507
you used the rong one
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>>156749767
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>>156749951
Thanks qt
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Why do you like souls games? I'm creating o e with DmC style combat
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>>156749573
It's late and there were already like 3 FCs today
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>>156750080
>Soulslike with DMC combat

Those are exactly the wrong things to put together.
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Sorry about wasting peoples time, everyone was complaining about no fc host and I haven't hosted one since DS2 so I had no idea I wasn't supposed to kill the area boss. Sorry.
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>>156750080
I like it because it isn't DmC style combat and has weight to it and not just pomp and spazz while also not being press x to win shit
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>>156750185
I can host if anyone wants. Just reached high wall on ng+
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>>156750185
Why shouldn't you kill the area boss of you're summoning reds?
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>>156749913
So did you
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>>156750185
It's ok i've been summoning the two same people over and over again and they keep fighting.
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>>156750204
This image honestly bothers me

The drawing/painting style is fucking gross

It's like 10 year old sketches, but someone painted over it in photoshop but used dodge and burn for shading instead of a paint brush
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>>156749432
Just look at Bloodborne's. Think how much larger the rest of them would be if every game had put titles on every boss room.
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>>156750281
If you don't kill area boss you can summon more reds. Unembered with dried finger you can summon 5 dark spirits.
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>>156750315
well played
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>>156750279
Aight i'll put my sign down on the rafters.
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>>156749380
Show her your mushroom
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>>156750349
>Longer lines = more branches
nope
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>>156749843
So thats a yes right?

Do I need to put points into int and fai to make pyromancy viable?
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>>156737715
>>friendly, gay
>>dating Solaire
Finally someone who gets it!
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>>156750374
Shit, nice
Thanks
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>>156749910
You crazy if you think snowniggers look like that.

Those girls my friend are fruit of mixed breeding.

And the results have been impressive.
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>>156748698
Why do these even matter? Dark souls all boils down to explore one area, then explore the next. The order in which you can get to them really shouldn't be a game-changing mechanic if you're going to explore every area eventually by the end of the game
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>>156750707
The only impressive thing is that the yurop genes survived the monkey ones and came out still looking good.

All race mixing does is take some shit genetics and then smush them together with white euro genes to make a "pretty person". People never gush over african + chinese or pajeet+mexican.

No, it's always russia + japan or indian + swedish or anything that has a combo of pure white + stank.

Those girls literally just look like europeans with dirtier eye colour, not even a good dirty eye colour like a green or pale blue, it's just lighter version of poopoo eye colour.
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>>156750883
>dark souls
>want to skip bad area
>master key

>dark souls 2
>want to skip bad area
>respawn rotten non-stop

>dark souls 3
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is DS3 worth the $40 its on sale for?
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>>156750201
>>156750178
Its more of a DmC game with souls exploration than souls with DmC combat if that makes you feel better
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I'm hosting if you guys want to join pcfc.
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>>156751158
Piratefags can play online so not really

SOTFS is 10bux but I might be seeing the upgrade price since I have the original
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>>156751271
You are my waifu
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>>156750883
YOU FUCKING KIDDING?
The openness of DaS first half is what makes to so fun to start a new character
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>>156751312
I already have SOTFS, I only ask about 3 because it's on sale
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>>156750883
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>>156737715
>Chosen Undead
>friendly, gay
>dating Solaire

JUST
you know what, fuckers

i am going to force the CU meme hard by telling tumblr to draw CU black and being a flamboyant independent gay person with solaire as his wife
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>>156751271
Very fun FC friend.
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>>156751718
This was not fun friend.
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>>156751718
what level is this?
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>>156752503
I am level 120.
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>>156752503
I'm host SL 120
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>>156752210
sorry squidward
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>>156750976
Its that injection of monkey genes that make these girls look great.

Call me biased cause i'm a spic but in my opinion southern europeans are the pinnacle of beauty.


Blonde, pale skin just doesn't do it for me.

Its that injection of monkey genes that makes it.

>No, it's always russia + japan or indian + swedish or anything that has a combo of pure white + stank.

>Russians
>Pure white.

C'mon now anon.
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>>156752643
I do not accept your apology.
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>>156750976
Go back to /pol/ alt-right virgin
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>>156751182
That's equally bad.
DMC Games are supposed to be fast pace. They don't really lend to Souls exploration.
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>>156752971
But he's right
No poopoo + poopoo looks good
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>>156752697
Not too mention most white girls want minority traits like lips, hips, tans, and ass.
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>>156752697
You know what I mean about Russians

also blonde and pale is the rarest thing on the planet, you just see more of it in media because it's so idolized that you're sick of it which makes sense.

>>156752971
>alt-right
buzzwords
>virgin
Lost it when I was 15 to a 17year old chubby goth chick and I've been with my current gf for the past 10 years
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>>156753162
Wow anon what a coincidence I'm not a virgin either and I also had a gf for years and lost my virginity to a chubby goth girl and my opinions are also more correct than yours
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>>156751718
The FC is a little dead. I'll stop when no signs.
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>>156753418
>beat 2 people in a row
>the guy with the DMB fucking beats me
I don't want to be upset but i fucking hate this guy.
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>>156753782
that's GOJ dumbdumb
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>>156753997
>same effect as DMB
Whatever it is i dislike it strongly, i am going to get good at this and destroy this guy.
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>>156752971
>virgin

You're posting in a video game general on a fringe board of 4chan.org
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>>156753418

I'm coming now anon so don't stop.
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>>156754237
Okay
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>siegward took off his mask
>he's cute as heck
Holy shit
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>>156754514
That's siegwards actual face in game canon
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>>156754565
Really? How did he copy it so well?
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>>156754684
sliders
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>>156754729
Oh, damn siegward is cute.
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I'm level 89, do I need one of you niggas to drop me some souls to join the FC
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>>156754848
We get people participating at 80. You should be fine unless your build's like half done with only 20 vigor or something
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>>156754848
You can participate anon. pass is dsg on PC place red sign on rafters of high wall.
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>>156754978
>>156754939
Sweet
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>>156754157
I believe in you. I don't know if you were Maxwell, Sieg, Olivia, or Bean but I believe in you.
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What are some of the good places and levels to invade as?
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>>156755417
Purple phantom you are invisible for bean baddy I'm sorry
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>Soul of Ornstein, Dragonslayer Knight who guards the cathedral in the forsaken city of Anor Londo.
>Special beings have special souls. Lord Gwyn granted this soul to his four most trusted knights.

Did Gwyn give his knights their souls to create them, or did he give them pieces of it before he burnt himself?

If he gave it to his four knights, wouldn't that be before he linked the flames?
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>>156755417
we ffa?
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>>156755489
Didn't see anyone sorry ;_;
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Veta you're invisible for me now just fyi.
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>>156755672
When you notice people acting like you're invisible, black crystalling out and getting resummoned usually fixes it.
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>>156755550
I want FFA
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Shit Souls 3 is the worst game in the series
Shit Souls 3 defenders are shit-eating redditors
Shit Souls 3 shows that Memeazaki is a hack
Fuck Shit Souls 3
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>>156756250

Don't forget how they won't shut up about their fight clubs
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>>156756412
>>156756250
fuck off DaS2 babbies
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> Decide to replay Dark Souls after a year or so.
> Already beat it once
> Make Dex Build Wanderer w/ Master Key
> Found out that you can actually jump, and had forgot you can run until I hit Blighttown

FML
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>>156755985
same
also BKGSbro was lagging bad there for a bit but it coulda been me
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Can someone on PC drop me either a CCS, Warden twinblades or some refined gems? It would shorten my grindfest by a lot.
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>>156756634
>CCS
Kill yourself
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See NMS this zweihander isn't so easy to use huh?
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FFA PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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>>156756914

I don't recall ever stating that but I agree.
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>>156757174
if you guys want
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>>156757196
You're actually beating me every time so you're pretty good with it, i am the garbage one.
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>>156753374
this is an 18+ website
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>>156741869
Who has the squidest squidhelm? Velstadt, Rains or royal warriors?
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>>156756737
too late already got it
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>>156757306

If you're Siegward you're pretty good with it too, you're just going for Stomps when it's not safe which is costing you fights.
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Veta is invisible still to me friends.
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>>156744209
:3 is a facial expression, dummy. It knows no bounds
>>156743421
Pretty sure he meant the whole Shakespearean thee's and thou's deal
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>>156757538
Maybe so but i enjoy living life on the wild side.
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>>156741939
>Alonne
Poor Weeb getting raped by Europeans

>Ivory King
Magic Dick that purifies the Abyss
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>try to use backstep, visibly out of range of pvp weapon


>die

This game stinks
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>>156757591
If you see someone invisible black crystalling out is really the only way to fix. for some reason some people are more prone to being invisible.
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>>156744952
>Velka
>waifu
>not motherfu
If you don't want Velka to tenderly embrace you with her feathers and bring you worms to eat because she keeps forgetting you're not a corvian, I don't know what the hell is your problem
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yay ffa
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>summoned never ever
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Hey thats not fair guy with spiked mace just ran up on me when I wasn't ready wahh :(
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Thanks NMS you dickhead.
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>>156758171
When the flame blows the battle begins!
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>>156758174

Should've leveled ADP :^) oh wait wrong game
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>It's dungeon time

kill me
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>>156758102
you got DSCM? and get pvp watchdog
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That was fun friends,
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>>156758023
>>156758216
>>156758174
>>156758171
I need to eat so I'll cease hosting for the moment. Thank you all.
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>>156758312
gotta go fast
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>>156750883
Let's imagine an extreme scenario where the player doesn't want to use ce/se to get his build going. In 1, you can go get most gear before even getting to sens. Ds2 has more or less distinct paths to follow for each build. Ds3 says fuck that noise, you get some options but you're going THAT way
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>>156758321
eat fast!
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>>156751664
>don't talk to me or my wife's sun ever again
I need to draw this but I can't, FUCK
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>>156758280
I have the DSCM but what does the pvp watchdog actually do besides tell me when someone is cheating?
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Well NMS you beat me, it was a bad fight and i will beat you next time.
Good game friend i hope to play you again some day.
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I can try to host at Anor Londo or Irithyll Dungeon if anyone wants in the meanwhile
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>>156758602

I'd like Anor Londo especially if you have the shortcut open.
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Can anyone drop me some refined gems on PC? I need 2 total
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>>156758539
tells you your node count in game and makes a ping when you connect with someone even if you're alt tabbed. I guess it also protects your save file from curses/hacks but idk entirely
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I LOVE YOU IVORY KING
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>>156758638

Can't drop weapon upgrade stones, just weapons for other players.

>>156758595

Everyone has off days, but don't feel down as we had close fights all the same. Until next time.
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>>156758636
>>156758602
Actually I have to attend to stuff too suddenly
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>>156758819

I can host at Anor Londo then if people want it still.
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>>156758716
Hey, loudanon. Been to horsecock valley yet? You're in for some capsrage if not
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>>156757825
>I don't understand how latency and hitreg works
Whatever, scrublord.
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>>156758728
oh thanks for the info then
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Ok, my turn to host

Welcome to the High Wall of Death FC

pass is dsg as always
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What is the next step for soulsborne games?
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>>156759876
>Wall of Death FC
OwO what's this?
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>>156759876
legitimately spooked right now
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>>156758887
NO.

I FUCKING HATE ELEUM LOYCE
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>>156759876

Cm,on guys we need signs

we have friends

lots of friends
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>>156760410
I'm sorry it's time for sleeping
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>>156759894
Blame! Souls
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>>156760410
>casts dead again
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I'm planning on doing a theme build and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to drop a fire witch set and immolation tinder on PS4
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When did this "Dark Souls is hard" marketing meme come into existence? I believe that it is cancer, and responsible for the decline of the Souls community
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>>156760410
Thanks for the few fights with mr clean, i'm out~
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FC is over now that all my friends are walking around again

We'll do this again real soon
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>>156761236
Most possibly since the beginning, AFAIK DeS started the le hard gaem meme
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>>156750883
by the time I can get to most of the gear I want the game is 60% over. The first 25% of the game plays virtually identical regardless of build. I also can't level up in the good areas so that I can breeze through the boring areas. It's shit.
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waiting for a summon

sign name YUNGROSHI

>>156759876
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>>156761636
its ogre
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>>156761752

ill host now

high wall of lothric

pw dsg
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>>156761236
>says Dark Souls is not hard
I've got news for you anon, it is significantly harder than most other games that could even call themselves its contemporaries. We've just gotten so used to the difficulty over the years that we can avoid a lot of the most common pitfalls that would snag the average casual.

To be fair, the PVE portions are theoretically "easy" since you get an infinite number of chances to play through levels and fight and defeat bosses, and victory is more dependent on learning bosses' tells than on overleveling them like you would any other game (thus why base level runs are possible). But still, the primary mechanic of the franchise is that it uses death to force you to learn and get better, and that's a lot harsher than most other games where you could probably beat bosses blind on the first try while losing less than 25% of your health.
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>spend 100+ arrows killing all of the stupid goop ceiling monsters in the depths so that I can get to the bonfire on the other side of the water filled hallway
>kill the last one
>invaded by full havel monster with hex staff
>not even level 30 yet

Welp, I know why I stopped playing DS1
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anyone have/be able to get an elite cleric set theyd be willing to drop? ds on pc.
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>>156762015
You retard they're weak to firebombs
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>>156762015
Why kill the oozes when you can run by them? Killing everything in the game is going to make every area feel like drudgery.
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>>156762058
That's not really the point, it was a really long fucking slog jut to get to that point, then getting invaded by a faggot twink/hacker not even 20 feet from the bonfire is bullshit
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>>156762126
sorry that happened but you didn't plan that very well. I'd stop playing too if that happened after I did all that.
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>>156749519
lurk moar
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>>156762015
why didn't you just run past them all you dumbdumb
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>>156762015

Dark Souls pvp only gets less cancerous when the average person approaches endgame.

The earlier you are, the more tryhards you'll meet.
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lets duel guys ds3

road of sacrifices

pw dsg
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>>156762015
I would of just plug pulled and laughed as he sent me an invite to one of those "git gud" steam groups when I logged back in and got the bonfire.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0mIwTyeMsEw
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>>156762246

my bad halfway fortress ive been drinking
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>>156761236

It is significantly harder than most games on the market, and it has become a marketing point for the series. People buy the games to 'challenge themselves', which is fine - means they're willing to try.

Problem is that you also allow for co-op, and the ease of getting co-op done. Since co-op has a tendency to actually just outright break the AI in the games, I fail to see where the challenge lies anymore. Yet you'll see them brag about beating this boss, and that boss. Or even beating the game, but they're simply playing a broken version of the game.
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>>156762246
Sure, gimme a few minutes to find batteries for my Game Boy.
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>>156762326
I think it's an unspoken rule of Dark Souls that all first playthroughs must be solo (with maybe the occasional NPC summoning), and that any friends who are helping their buddies must prioritize on forcing those buddies to git gud.

It's just as common for people to deliberately troll their friends in co-op and kill them for laughs, like hitting the bells in Undead Crypt or leading them to Mimics without warning them.
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>>156762015

Well, by that point he can't even roll wearing the armor, let alone defend himself beyond maybe casting dark bead. So.

Just fucking kill him.
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What covenant do I join if I'm a shitter who needs people to carry him through the game?
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>>156762501

Did you just step out of a time capsule, and the world only knew of Dark Souls 1? There are entire playthroughs on youtube and just in general streams and shit of people playing the game 100% in co-op with randoms for their first playthrough. It's saddening to see.
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>>156762564
Way of blue and a white fuckbuddy at all times
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up to raime and i have 4 smelter rods

should i use them all on him to fight the boss or go explore?
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>>156762568
Well, said people probably wouldn't be long-term Souls fans anyways, part of the appeal of the franchise is that it's very self-selecting in that only people who are interested in becoming fans of the game will survive the conversion and become actual fans.

It is painful to see and hear about, but at the end of the day such exposure does lead to more people buying the game and thus encouraging From to make another one. It's impossible for a franchise to survive purely on the efforts of its most dedicated fans, there's always going to be casuals no matter where you go. At the very least, said people are experiencing the game in some form, rather than not experiencing it at all.

It's fun to be in an exclusive club full of very dedicated people, but it doesn't help very much if said club is limited to only a few thousand people worldwide.

>>156762789
If you got the restock of 4 and didn't waste one on the stairway to Alonne, you have exactly the number that you're aiming for. Otherwise, feel free to explore, because there are exactly enough to do everything if you didn't fuck up.
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>lothric knight just keeps doing the shield bash

Do they even need their spears?
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>>156762126
Well I didn't! I pushed through and got to the boss, but now I'm scared that I should wait for someone to summon
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>>156763150

I hate the spear lothric knights.

>try to kick
>he stabs
>try to backstab
>instant slap with shield
>try to weapon art to get the shield away
>he two-hands and charges

It's like, the only smart AI in the game and it's fucking annoying since you bounce off whenever trying to slap the shield.
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>>156763238
they're blatantly imput reading
smart or not, their AI is horribly designed
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will we get the option to infuse weapons with different weapon arts? I just want to make some shield use parry or others use the weapon art of your righthand weapon weapon.
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>>156763150
It's literally an input-reading cheating cunt. Any time that I try to guard break it and it isn't automatically retreating at the end of its aggro leash, it puts the shield down and smacks me. Thankfully they're pretty easy to backstab if you roll past them after their thrusts.
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>>156763349
input*
fucc
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>>156762348

Girls can play this, why can't it be called Game Boy Girl?
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If you disconnect during an invasion in ds1 pc, do you get banned from summoning or something?
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>>156763238
Just equip literally any weapon with stance or stomp and break their shield.
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>>156763728
No you probably just need to refresh your nodes if you alt f4'd
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I find abyss watchers a bit of a pain in the ass to parry, mainly because I never bothered and just dished damage on him, but if I had to say, the most bullshit thing about the boss fight is the HUGE clouds of dust they kick up. Fuck that.

Seems like the wolf does the same thing in the DLC
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>>156762916
>encouraging from to make another one
Because that worked out well. From can't do sequels
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>haven't played Dark Souls in over a year
>bought 3 today
>the first balder knight and those transformy fuckers already reminding how bad I am

this was a mistake
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Why won't my Giant club hit anyone? They get stunned and it does no damage and I even hit them oint blank and they dont dodge and it still doesn't get them.
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>>156764406
You're lagging. They stagger because of shockwaves, you miss them by little
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>>156764370
They're a company that has to make money, whether you like it or not.

>>156764379
DaS3 is a lot faster-paced than DaS1, and it's natural that they would develop ways to counter foolproof cheesy strategies that made the first game too easy.

I mean, did you complain when you had to fight Fume "I'll just deliberately delay the last hit of this three-hit combo to punish the player for rolling according to the timing of another one of my combos that looks exactly the same" Knight? The games get harder with each iteration, to keep them from just being direct rehashes.
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I died instantly to a player by turning me into a crystal. What the fuck is that spell and why does it one-shot? And why the FUCK is it instant?
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>>156764596
They can't do sequels because they do the original game shame. They can make other games
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>>156764596
I didn't play DaS2
I expected it to be harder and I expect myself to put in a solid 100 hours of being terrible before I can beat a single playthrough
I just want to invade people and have fun
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>>156763748

>what is the line about weapon arts

dumbo
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>>156764657
Just dodge it, brah. you were cursed by a hacker
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How the fuck do these stupid ass catalysts and staves work that work in reverse? Like, when they cast sorceries, but scale with Faith and vice versa with faith spells.

You still can't use the spells, if you don't have sufficient intelligence/faith for them, so what the fuck is the point?
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>>156764596
>Fume "I'll just deliberately delay the last hit of this three-hit combo to punish the player for rolling according to the timing of another one of my combos that looks exactly the same" Knight?

Well, both Pontiff and Dancer do that, though. Dancer is the biggest offender of it, which is highlighted if you try to fight her early. Which is probably the only time the poor thing is actually a threat. Anyone who's gone through Aldritch/Yhorm will just destroy poor Dancer as is.
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>>156758887
>had to farm Frosty the Asshole Reindeer for bone fists
>was totally worth it in the end
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>>156765282
Mostly mixing up with some low level spells of the other school, like a heal or a magic shield
>>156765549
They drop twinkling titties?
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>>156765749
No, they drop the bone fists

Twinkling's pretty easy to get in 2 iirc
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>>156765775
What? The bonefist is from that cave you need to light the sconces to open. The one that's filled with retainers and an exile sentry
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How much cock do I need to suck to get them to patch in that firekeeper crown on the dead firekeeper? It would go PERFECTLY with the fire witch clothes
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>>156765904
Seriously? I thought you could only get them from the reindeer.
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I'm really confused.

I'm playing DS1 on pc, and I'm just entering blight town. The enemies do basically 50% of my hp each hit, and I do maybe 1/20th of their hp each hit. I used something like 400 arrows to try to clear mobs safely, but then I got poisoned and died (the poison took all 13 of my flasks lol)

I feel like I'm not supposed to be here at all yet, but I don't know how to get back to firelink shrine. Am I missing something?
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>>156766167
Stop using a straight sword hilt. Get a better weapon and upgrade it. You can easily go back to firelink from the depths, just go to ayy siwmae and look around
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>>156766273
The door from Depths to Blight town is doesn't open from the Blight town side. He'll have to go the other way.
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>>156766273
As far as I can tell it's a 1 way street, I've been wandering around the depths for ages and I can't find a door that goes back up so I can get back to firelink, it looks like the only way to go is into blight town, I can't seem to find any other way, but its impossibly hard, I tried rushing in and found a bonfire and lit it, but then I was murdered horribly by a train of enemies and thrown back into the previous bonfire anyway

Am I screwed? Do I have to just restart the game?
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>>156766349
If he went through the back way, he must be retarded not to know where to go. I wager he missed the shortcut to the depths bonfire
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>>156766167
did you upgrade to +6 before going in?
if not you're gonna have to fight the boss with a +5 weapon and she's a damage sponge
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This general is a bit toxic honestly
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>>156766738
not that I necessarily disagree but in which ways?
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>>156766470
You're lucky you got murdered, I doubt you'd be able to go back if you rested there, not in your condition. In that room with the 3 slimes and 2 rats, from whence you go to the vagina dragon, is a small archway that leads back to the bonfire. Look for it. Make sure you have the large ember before leaving the depths, it should be in your key items if you have it
There is only a single iteration where one might need to start a new save, if you get stuck in ash lake. Even then it's not impossible to get out, just really hard. The game is rigged so you can't make the game unbeatable
>>156766738
Don't you mean
!TOXIC!

!TOXIC!

!TOXIC!

!TOXIC!
fsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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>>156766708
I didn't even know upgrading was a thing, how do I get out of this damn place so I can go upgrade? I can't find a way back, the way you get into the depts to fight the gaping dragon is a cliff you can't climb back up too, the only way is down, and its impossible to go that way, the enemies are way too strong and I don't even dent there, and there's like 50 of them all crowded together, I don't stand a chance, I came in with like 500 arrows and I have 112 left
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>>156766738
You haven't been to many generals if you think this one is toxic. Either that or you are a wet blanket who needs developers and mods to protect your right boipussy from all those mean people on the internet.
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>>156766738

It's outright overrun by CIS males and it disgusts me to the core
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>>156766831
theres a shortcut near aye simwae hombre, its not hidden just take a moment to search
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>>156766831
did you get the key by the giant rat and light the bonfire in the depths?

>actually made it to blighttown without upgrading
pretty rad, brah
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>>156766738
It's been this way for almost 3 years now, i think summer '13 was the last point when this general was actually fun to read.
This is what happens when you allow underage retards and outright mentally unstable people (like 2+2 king shitposter) to post all garbage they want with virtually no moderation or at least ability to filter them.
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I'm pvping as a level 25 character atm I, any recommended weapons? Dark souls 3
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>>156764745
But that's retarded anon, all you need to do is roll away until he puts his shield back up then break it.
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>>156739498
Because doing the actual levels in co-op is funny, while co-oping most bosses feels like you're bullying an aggressive retard.
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>>156767202

You can't roll out of a weapon art mid-animation.
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>>156766831
>>156767070
>killed gaping dealing 10 damage 500 times
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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So I played up to sl80 +10, completely forgetting to do anything covenant related.

Is there some way to farm Swordgrass, or am I fucked?
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>>156741993
>tfw finnish and pronounce everything nearly exactly it's written
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>>156766826
>>156766952
I found it! Thanks!

>>156767070
>>156767271
Well I thought the game was supposed to be just really really hard...

How do I go about this whole upgrading thing? I know where the blacksmith is...but I'm really not sure what weapon I should upgrade
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>Sl 95
>people still use deep protection and sacred oath
>they don't know

I kind of feel sorry for them, but then again I hated sacred oath + numbness stacking in dark souls 2.
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>>156767443
It feels so good to know that buff kiddies are blown the fuck out, honestly.
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>>156767327
The three gruhs near the second farron bonfire are your best bet.
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>>156767421
mess around with the weapons you've found and upgrade the one you like the most. Upgrading to +5 is cheap in the long run so dont worry about wasting materials or anything. Titanite shards can be found or bought, and the blacksmith near undead parish will upgrade your weapon with those
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>>156767421
>How do I go about this whole upgrading thing? I know where the blacksmith is...but I'm really not sure what weapon I should upgrade
regular titanite (0 to +5) is infinitely buyable so you can't 'waste' it
just find something you like

also, as a general rule;
str; axes, clubs, greataxes, greathammers, ultra greatswords, one greatsword
dex; scythes, katanas, curved swords, one straightsword, one spear

once you beat the blighttown boss and then get to the top of sens you can buy large shards (+6 to +10)
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>black knight greatsword

I don't know why but this has to be my favorite greatsword. I just wish it didn't have this retarded two handed axe moveset.
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>>156767421
Any weapon except the obviously terrible ones is good enough to get you through the whole game. Find one you like and stick with while trying other shit too. Dark Souls being hard is a meme. Dark Souls is punishing but fair. To upgrade you need titanite. In fact, andre explains it well, talk to him. And whatever you do, don't go hollow.
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The crystal hollows are ruthless, they keep shooting me in the head.
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ds1 upgrade guide

if you do new londo you can get to +14 before sens, which makes anor londo and the boss way easier
also doing the catacombs can get you +20 flasks
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>>156767657
surprisingly they're super weak to magic and get 2shot by the MLBH
also use hiddenbody + slumbering
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>>156767657
>Trying to get through DA on my 10 vit sorceror
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>>156767073
>implying
2013 was people screaming how DaS1 was so much shittier than DeS, retarded tripfags wanking each other off, people sperging about meme ecelebs, pastas,vocalfag,Knight Kirk and his megaautism,fc shitposting,platform wars across 3 platforms since we even had xbox players then.

But that's irrelevant. We have good threads, we have bad threads, deal with it. If you want to continue hand-wringing about "toxicity" go on Tumblr or Reddit.
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>>156737195
shit, now I want more like this
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>>156767718
>Playing DeS1 for the first time last week
>Hit Ornstein and Smough
>Expect to get my asshole to get torn open
>Take them both out in one go
>Get to them in NG+ and then again in NG++
>Still no problem
Was it all just a meme, or am I just spoiled by having played DS3/2/SotFS/BB beforehand?
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>>156737202
>can transpose scythe
>less damage than the pontiff k***ht great scythe but slightly more range with the same generic scythe moveset
>WA is a ranged ice attack that's so telegraphed a grandma with Parkinson's could dodge it
>the community will praise it because it's better than neck swipe
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>>156737202
>50ft aoe on his attack
lame
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>>156767889
You're accustomed to the concept behind souls gameplay. O&S keel over passive play
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>>156737202
>Fighting Gherman with the shield instead of using gunparries
Oh wait, wrong game.
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>>156762015
Sounds like how my "return to Lordran" run started.

>get invaded once in Undead Parish
>gesture him, he attacks
>invader hits me for 1/5 of my HP, no biggie
>I hit him for 1/10235725 of his HP with a +4 weapon
>proceed to beat him up for most of his HP regardless because he only tries to parry and apparently sucks at it, too
>unzips his Dark Bead, hits me, I don't die
>gets one hit with his straight sword in, I die
>Well, what is it? spam

and that's how I left the "return to Lordran" scene.
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>>156767982
>defeat him by wasting almost all of your flasks because it's almost impossible to dodge his attacks
>he suddenly cracks the lordvessel, unbinds himself, grows corvian wings and takes out the Sword of Law
>gets new HP bar as well which is larger than HP bar of his previous mode and scythe girl combined
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>>156768203
>kill him
>he drinks the soup out of his giant soup bowl
>unbinds himself
>proceeds to slap you around with the chair
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>>156762015
>>156768172
>Playing DaS for the first time
>Join Forest Hunters not knowing about the lack of level cap
>One shot by everything and it's mother
>Take the ring off and abandon covenant
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>>156767779
Honestly i would take a few tripfags you can easily filter and platform wars over retarded "DS1/2/3 is shit" shitposting and one obviously mentally unstable person posting enormous "DS3 is shit" copypasta in every thread.
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>>156767579
>>156767623
>>156767635
Well I upgraded my straight sword to +5 and upgraded my armor and shield to +2 shield and helm and +1 everything else

I don't really feel that much stronger though...it still takes 2 hits to kill stuff, should I just farm souls for a while and level up/upgrade my gear? Or is that a waste of time? I kind of want to use a rapier later on...

>>156767718
I'm not sure what this means but thank you, I'll save it to my desktop for later use
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>>156737202
So on a related note, what is the best greatshield to block fire damage?
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>play DS1 again
>get to Quelaag
>not that underleveled
>still only do 34 damage a hit to her
>mfw

I've forgotten how ruthless DS1 is now. It makes me look at DS2 and 3 with a bit of a frown how much easier they are.
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>>156768375
Rapiers suck in ds2 without strong buffs
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How do I deal with these niggers without using a shield?
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>>156768407
>ng++
>get to quelaag
>dark bead her to oblivion

I forgot how dumb magic was in dark souls 1.
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>>156768407
That's usually only if you have no idea about building your character. By the time you get to Quelaag your damage output should be already solid enough to take on sens fartress. Plus she's really fucking primitive compared to DS3 bosses in terms of moveset.
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>>156768473
Go grab some early chunks then use a resin
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>>156768502

I know how to build, thank you very much.
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>>156768473
After you enter the arena, stay on the platform with the first sentinel. While the first one is still alive, the others won't jump up, meaning you can 1v1 him easily.

For the other two, jump down and constantly circlestrafe so they're constantly lined up (so only one of them can attack at once). From there, it's just git gud with your rolls and don't be greedy.

F
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>>156768421
I'm playing ds1...
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>>156768569
>F

Well, no idea how that happened. Either way, once you work out how to approach it, it's a pretty easy fight.
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>>156768473
duel maces you scrub
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>>156768590
I meant to say ds1
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>>156768395
Black Iron/Havel's iirc
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>>156768650
Oh, that really sucks, what about the estoc, is that good?
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>>156768590
Nigger get some attunement so you can use that faith. It actually has some useful spells in 1.
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>>156768695
Nah
Damage is just way too low
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>Play a souls game
>Use anything with strike damage and can be buffed with lightning
>Destroy everything
Why do they even put other weapons/buffs into the game
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>>156768689
Yeah, they both have 83 fire defense, thank you.

Kind of weird that the dragonslayer greatshield doesn't have higher fire defense.
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>greatweapon staggers in DaS3

>No damage, just a minor stun that does nothing for you

>Bloodborne had these, but they did a small actual damage % of your weapons AR (Kirkhammer)

Fucking gay as fuck. Great weapons would be alot more viable if all those stuns you land while faggots just bloodframe your attacks did SOME kind of damage, even if it's only 20-50 at a time.
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>>156768375
Hm? 2 hits to kill things sounds about right. I understand your lack of confidence since your up against blighttown but you dont have anything to lose. It's just like ripping a band-aid off, except you have to do it slowly so it hurts, but you only gotta do it once. I'll tell you that before you start descending rapidly there's a bonfire to keep an eye out for.
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Just checking, where does your bloodstain appear when you die as a red spirit in DaS? Is it on top of you or at the bonfire?
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>>156768870
Wherever you died iirc
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>>156768762
Same reason there's shitty and good feats in DND. Because identifying the most broken thing and abusing it is a 'skill'

>>156768705
This, grab heal and force for more defensive options/resources
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>>156768870
DaS1 was where you invaded from wasn't it?
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>>156769082
Yes

>>156768891
Nah
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>>156768742
Well I put 19 points into dexterity and faith already, is there a way I can search for weapons that scale well with those?
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>>156768762
Strike only holds true for 2 and lightning for 1.
Magic for DeS, Thrust for BB and fire for 3 would be my picks
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>>156768820
>mfw I hit someone with my dragonslayer greataxe and all they do is stagger backward damageless
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>>156769112
Get to 30 faith and use sunlight blade on it
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>>156769253
spooky
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>>156762015
>not just running through

>>156761236
PTDE marketing.
But the marketing works in our favor :
It allows From to keep making the game they would've made otherwise and the casuals can enjoy a game that's supposedly "hardcore".

>>156762568
>>156762916
The "Dark Souls' only appeal is that it's hard"-meme is something you see in here too. The core of the series is as follows :
1. Slow, methodical combat
2. Gameplay that relies on observation and patience as opposed to just twitch reflexes. Dying in Dark Souls is usually a consequence of not being able to choose the correct strategy, instead of fuckups with key inputs.

Wanting Dark Souls to just become "harder" comes at the cost of everything else that made Dark Souls enjoyable in the first place. Sure, the pace of the game is faster, but if it makes observation and patience irrelevant, it betrays the main actual design principles for the games in exchange for "Dude, hard, lmao!".

I don't understand the hateboner people have against hosts that summon other players, because co-op is the intended way to play the game, as evidenced by the Demon's Souls intro movie.
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>>156769112
>>156768742
is being too harsh. If you take the time to upgrade the estoc to 15 its great in pvp, and if you work your faith up to 30, you can get one of 2 miracles for a flat 160-200 damage bonus, which is even more effective with fast weapons like the estoc. the rapier has shorter range but if you want, and you practice with it, you can make it work. Anything is viable in pve as long as you upgrade your weapon when the materials to do so become available.
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>>156769303
30 faith?

Hah, what kind of damage do you think you'll be getting with such a low am-
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>>156769196
You're right on DeS and BB (Lightning for old ones, fire for everything else) but in all of the DaS games lightning fucks everything that isn't a dragon, fire is only good on a couple bosses like Nameless King/Last Giant/Nito
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How do we fix invasions guys?
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>>156769382
>30 faith slb in ds1 is more than 30% better than 60faith slb in ds3
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>>156769303
Someone told me the sunlight blade wasn't very good in the long run...

>>156769375
Well, I would like to know what weapons are really good, not just the ones I can make work with buffs

Is there something I should look out for? How do I know which weapons will really work with my build?
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>>156769382
I'm really glad they nerfed the living shit out of buffs, seriously. A second no-skill thing after the ds1 poise system that allowed even the most brainless retard to r1 his way through anything.
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>>156769382
>Great club is 650 AR at 50 FAI in DaS1

>Keep it the same speed, lower it's AR in DaS3

>Make every other weapon class faster and get more AR

T A N I M U R A
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>>156769506
30faith sunlight blade estoc hits harder than lightning claymore
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>>156769529
>Seconded. It was also annoying as fuck in PvP when people would expect you to wait for them while they cast all their miracle buffs and put on all their resins before fighting.
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>>156769480
They don't need fixing as ng invasions are absolutely fine.
The only shit that needs to be changed is bloodstain retrieval, it has literally no reason to exist.
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>>156769480
Unnerfed ashen estus and remove the invader soul retrieval bullshit. You could also make the giant seeds rarer but it is not that necessary. That's it really.
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>>156769568
Sorry, I meant 50 STR obviously

When the fuck are great weapons getting a buff in DaS3

Or instead just shave 100 AR off the top of all straight swords.
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>>156769584
>invasions are absolutely fine

>prioritises world with a summon
>host gets embered hp buff
>host gets more estus
>host can summon more phantoms while invaded
>ds3 estus makes any pvp a chugfest

Invasions are fine my ass.
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>>156769480
2hit stunlock is the root of all evil
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>>156769609
1 estus flask needs to be universally converted to 2 ashen estus bottles and you should keep full amount of ashen estus while invading.
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>>156769640
This

Speed up all greatweapons and reduce stamina costs, but remove the two hit on them.

Fugs should never have been nerfed. It's AR was fine at release, what wasn't fine was being 2 hit guaranteed to death.

Speed up greatweapons, remove the 2 hits.
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>>156769506
Estoc works splendidly if you like thrusting weapons. It's the best thrusting sword. Strictly 'better' than the estoc within the dex faith build would be balder side sword, but it has the long sword moveset, and is powerful bordering on cancerous. It really does come down to what you have more fun with, just upgrade it and maybe buff it.
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>>156769628
If you can't win in ng invasions you're a skilless piece of shit, plain and simple.
The thing you want to do is ability to mindlessly shit on everything and anything with host having virtually no ability to retaliate like it was in DS1 to feed your ego.
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>>156769640
I liked the removal of poise. I think it got rid of a lot of stupid strategies.

But I agree, the 2-hit stun is stupid, all it does is basically double the damage of all weapons.
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What's going on. My buttbuddy can't see my sign and I don't see his either. I see none, now that I think about it. I didn't get a cheat shit warning or anything. Come the fuck on, not now that the DLC is so close.
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>>156769810
Check your password dingleberry
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>>156769685
I wonder why after improving larger weapons so much in bloodborne (reminder that bloodletter is a fucking great mace) and understanding that they should rely on a huge per hit damage with no stunlocks and moderately high attack speed From went so much backwards in DS3. It really feels like an influence of Tanimura because Miyazaki was the one behind Bloodborne and all of its improvements.
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>>156769736
Except that's not what i'm saying at all, and you know it. Hosts should have an advantage over invaders, yes. However i'm sick of invading into host + 2 phantom shitfests where they back off and chug whenever they take damage, and resummon whenever a summon dies.
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>>156769840
We are not doing it with a password, we have just agreed to a spot where he places his sign and we mostly summon another random guy for ganking. No signs.
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>>156769796
Removal of 2-hit stunlock will only make estus stronger. It needs to stay for majority of weapons as well as specific weapon combos like caestus l1-r2-l1-l1. Now great weapons don't need it. Give them a huge per hit damage and swing speed increase instead.
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>>156769891
kys
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>>156769628
Only the last two are cancer amd that is because From expects invaders not to find gankers.
You are supposed to make the game harder for those unable to win without phantoms. Who deserves more to get a bigger challange? That guy with a 30% boost or the one with that boost AND an ally?

If they nerfed rolls and estus, then it'd be great, bad invaders would be properly punished but so would be bad hosts, since you can get away with anything by roll spamming on either side now.
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>>156769810
>>156769891

So, did you cheat or not?
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>>156769871
Again, if you can't deal with this in ng invasion ranges (up to sl70-80), you don't deserve to win because wast majority of people you're going to invade are complete retards with equipment disadvantage and poorly planned builds.
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>>156769845
afaik Demon's never had the 2 hits either, and much more generous hyper armour

I think people preferred that, you know, playing a game where you're able to actually hit people when you feel you can and want to, instead of what is just a miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss HAHA YOU FUCKED UP, DEAD game.

The only weapons that should have 2 hit combos are things like maces and short axes and daggers, weapons with no reach that rely on whatever they can get while close in an opportunity.

Buff all greatweapon AR, remove the 2 hit combo, speed them up or reduce their stamina use. Straight swords stay untouched but no more 2 hit stunlocks. They can still use the best moveset in the game and get good hits, just singular ones and now the game isn't annoying just to play and be constantly just stagger dancing with your opponent.
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>>156769970
Only once. Dude asked me to drop him a Sword Spear and I agreed, then later remembered that I consumed the fucking Soul of NK because I already had all weapons, to not look like an idiot I just cheated it in.
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>>156769951
>nerfing rolls
Thank fucking god you're not a developer.
3 man gank squads will become impossible with nerfed rolls just like they were impossible in DS2 because you couldn't simply get away from them.
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>>156769736
>this full of yourself retard and his epic hollowslayer webms again
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>>156769480
>no more bloodstain retrieval
>limit the number of phantoms a host can summon in a single session to 5-10 (also limit the number of hostile phantoms that can invade to 3)
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>>156769685
>haha yeah man let's make greatswords as fast as rapiers xDD What could possibly go wrong?

FUGS was insane and deserved the nerf.
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>>156769480
Summoning removes hp boost from host
Seeds enable friendly fire
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>>156770021
Universal 2 hit combo system is the only thing that at least SOMEHOW balances estus in pvp, removing it is completely retarded for anything but greatweapons that should be weapons relying on pure 1 hit damage.
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>>156770045
Rolls are too broken. They trivialise PvE, allow you to make mistakes you should be rightfully punished for in PvP and even allow some weapons to be rollstabbed. Aren't you going to complain a host can spam rolls to wait for backup with no punishment?
We no longer have invasion timers, so you can wait forever instead of being forced to walk into a gank, but that is meaningless since an invader who does act like a retard and walks into a squad can easily spam rolls to escape, as I've done a lot of times. But a faggot host can also endlessly roll to get help.
Rolling nerfs would punish bad players(most gankers) more than good ones.
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>>156770217
How does it change anything about estus? I don't follow

>>156770206
But it's not as fast as rapiers and it's heavy as fuck with huge requirements.

It deserved it's damage, FOR SINGLE HITS. It didn't deserve the 2 hit combo.

If you were dumb enough to be in the viscinity if a prepatch fugs charged R2 went off and you died in one hit, that's your fault.
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>>156769480
Black out estus for all involved.
Once invaded you can no longer summon until the invader is dead.
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>>156770217
>>156770021
>halve the damage of greatweapons and make them as fast as normal weapons!

Do you not understand the purpose of the greatweapon?
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you can't fix the shittastic ultra weapons of 3 without completely changing the movesets

stop thinking it's damage or stunlock, it's neither, it's the sheer difficulty of being able to hit anyone with those garbage attacks
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>>156769951
>nerfing rolls
Kindly show yourself out the door. once again hosts would have the advantage since he has a buddy or two unlike you

>>156769480
Make seeds very rare (although 1 or 2 can be picked up from corpses) that drops randomly from any mob or an extremely low chance of getting one when killed by invaders, so the giant tree can fuck off. also make the seeded mobs prioritize the host and phantoms instead of whoever hit it last.

Ashen estus should not be cut in half when invading or at the fucking least make magic use HP when FP runs out of course, twice the normal.

Prevent resummoning of old phantoms for 10 mins OR prevent hosts from summoning ONLY when a Rosaria's finger is in play.

Make phantoms use the host's estus (like in DaS1 or at least require the host to nchug on an estus to heal his buddies)
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we're pretty active for this time of day
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>>156770340
Dear god yes. Sharp quick fights is the way to go, IMO. Intense and over quickly, instead of chugfest crap.
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>>156770324
>Aren't you going to complain a host can spam rolls to wait for backup with no punishment?
No, because they are punishable with right tools. Looks like the only people crying about roll spams are braindead ugs retards, but they always were the loudest crybabies in the community with enormous victim complex.

PvE is balanced for a current roll system, there's a shitton of enemies that will make the game painfully annoying if rolls are nerfed and i don't even want to imagine the horror of NG+7 SoC with nerfed rolls. Again, thank fucking gods that you're not a developer, i'd rather have a chance to take host down instead of dying from being unable to escape from a flurry of r1s from his phantoms.
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>>156770340
You can no longer summon after being invaded, but if there are multiple invaders in the world you can summon a phantom for each invader you kill
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>>156770334
FUGS and other greatswords are fine where they are. They already kill people in 3 swings, the last thing we need is for them to be faster.

High stat requirements are irrelevant unless you're talking about level 30 twink PvP or something. At 120 it's easy to meet the requirements for every weapon.
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>>156770340
This is the most retarded post in this thread. Congratulations.
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>>156770491
Yes you can, so long as you aren't maxed out on friendly phantoms in your world you can summon all fucking day.
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>>156770521
How so? It's different to the rest of the series, sure, but it's hardly a bad idea.

>>156770558
I think he was theorising, anon.
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>>156770467
>right tools
Such as?

Good luck killing a host who doesn't want to fight you and just roll spams and summons phantoms all day.
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>>156770467
>No, because they are punishable with right tools.
Can you put a trip so I can hide you?
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>>156770586
>How so? It's different to the rest of the series, sure, but it's hardly a bad idea.
In DaS invaders couldn't use estus, I don't remember if they could or not in 2.
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>>156770467
>punishable with right tools
Such as?
Memeta tools? lloyd's talisman? curseswords? bending over and taking the dick?
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>>156770042

Kek. I'm not sure if you are on the shadow server like I was or what but you can try to use an old save where you never cheated and wait for a day or so. If you have no backup then you are fucked and just have to start over.
I can confirm that using a clean save and waiting a while does help. It worked 2 times for me now because I was retarded enough to keep using CE after being punised and forgiven once.

Seems like From used their brains with this one.
Save is unclean - Shadow Server
Save is clean - Main Server
And this gets updated all the time. Clean save always means main server, no matter if you were previously moved.
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>>156770653
>Black out estus for ALL involved.
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>>156770653
>In DaS invaders couldn't use estus,
Phantoms too which forces the host to chug on his supply to heal his summons unlike in 3 where host and phantom have different estus.
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>>156770427
It's this.

This is the Kirkhammer in BB. Take note of how fast the straight sword swings compared to DaS3, despite BB being a faster game.

Notice how the hammer is basically only a little slower? Compare it to the fucking huge long windups of just 2 r1's with a greathammer in DaS3.
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>>156770591
>Such as?
Crossbows with exploding bolts, bombs, daggers, katana, longsword, curved sword, halberd running attacks, curved sword 2hr1, fast sorceries and pyromancies, you have plenty of options if someone starts blatantly spamming rolls and if you're using a weapon unfit for roll catching the one who deserves to be destroyed is you.
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>>156769692
Thank you, I'll look into getting a balder side sword, I'll probably get a strong estoc too just because I really like estocs (I think they are pretty cool)

So if I'm faith, I infuse stuff with lightning, right? Is that how it works?
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>>156770742
All yours webms are hollowslayer shittery and axe twinking. Can you post more roll catching with pyro and sorceries?
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>>156770739
You forgot to mention the horrible sweet spot that makes Dark Souls 2 Reapers look easy to use, which requires you to manually aim each strike or do 50% less damage.
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>>156770586
>How so?
Because in a game with seeds and ability to summon 3 phantoms inability for the invader to heal with estus will only make him far more vulnerable as any damage he takes during invasion is permanent, even from pve enemies that should be on his side, and his one HP bar will be nowhere nearly enough to defeat 4 people. It was a retarded idea in DS2 and i'm glad they refused to use it in DS3. A killed white phantom should just give you two estus flasks instead of one.
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>>156770680
What's that hard ban I heard about then? Or did they stop doing that because there were too many unjustified bans?
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>>156770742
You're joking right?

Have you ever actually tried to fight a host who just runs away and roll spams?

You'll never catch them with crossbows or bombs, let alone sorceries or pyromancies lol.

I mean, okay, if you're pro and can predict where they're going to roll you might catch them with a fireball but that's really not reliable.

The only thing I can think of that might work is the washing pole running r1 followed up by the r1 combo.
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>>156770427
Ultra weapons are fine, and i have no problem hitting any players with it. new ones and skilled ones. Just because you cant use them because you rely on hit and run katana spam doesn't mean they're broken.
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>>156770709
>Having to take Great Heal with me every time I decided to throw down my summon sign because I knew some asshole would rather let me die doing his work for him while he hid in the corner or ran around like a dipshit
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>>156770852
Oh come on it's not that bad. Most of that is because people can't properly judge distance when they first pick it up. At least the shockwaves do damage, and the damage output on the thing itself reaches insane heights
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why didn't one of you assholes submit a 4 kings copypasta to the banner contest
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>>156770467
I can spam roll INTO dancer's or pontiff's wombo combos and not get hit, I do that every playthrough, that's how stupidly strong they are. The window between chained rolls is of less than a second, you don't need to time them or care about stamina consumption, so long as you don't get stuck in a corner(and even when you do, you can see people survive solid 5 seconds mindlessly mashing circle at those)

You can count in 1 hand the ways you can punish someone rolling away from you, most of which are running attacks
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>>156770965
You will hit with the -50% hitbox if you don't manually aim an enemy in the correct space because the tricked r1 aims to the right of an enemy. It is worse than I said.
Don't act like Kirkhammer was a viable weapon in pvp. It was barely viable in pve.
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>>156737910
Wait
Does that mean Asses will have a new pvp boss?
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>>156770427
:^
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>>156769736
>Look mom, I posted it again
You realize everyone knows it's like 2 guys defending the shitty ass invasion system to the bitter end every fucking thead while posting webms of either facing against 3 complete fucking retards or something from the first week of release
Invasions rely too much on the host being retarded and you know that, two people on similar skill levels, the host will ALWAYS win, end of discussion.
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>>156770949
I experience those too in biggie smalls fight.
When a host does that, i kite whatever it is that's chasing me towards the host
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>>156771120
el famoso point down gesture
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>>156771130
I had that shit happen during Gwyn once, I ran away to heal and the host got shitwrecked in a heartbeat. Dude literally couldn't parry to save his life.
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>>156770775
Lightning in DaS1 has no scaling, you want Divine.
Although really you're better off keeping it regular and slapping a buff on it, with a divine backup for skellies.
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>>156771120
>literal trash host gets rekt due to his own stupidity
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>>156770932
>rely on katana spam
Hey, didn't you get btfo just that other thread then resorted to using symbols like ⊃ and ⊂ just to seem "educated" without even knowing what they mean and spouting shit like "logic isn't math" and making an absolute fucking retard of yourself?
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>>156770882

Who knows with From. The sure did get a lot of hate around release for those bans though and I haven't heard anyone saying they got the ban message in ages.
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>>156770949
>not just using a humanity
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>>156771216
Parrying is too much, just running away and not getting hit is the bare minimum
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>>156771120
>I got whiff punished by an ultra because I was an idiot, that means ultra weapons are fine :^)
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>>156769253
shitty comic
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>>156771120
>Getting wrecked by an ultra
1v1 you win almost automatically unless everyone doews what you did like hugging the ultra
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>>156771035
i don't believe you, the third hit of Pontiff's 6 hit combo is delayed, i don't think you can just mash roll and i-frame it unless you wear Bloodring, of course
you might not get hit by Dancer's combos because you roll into the safe spot behind her swords every time. she has an attack in phase 1 that can't be i-framed, i've never seen anyone do it, you have to roll behind it or out of range
you also need to make 2 rolls in very quick succession to i-frame Gundyr's charge from up close with only a short delay between them, i don't think many people know how to sprint around it or even know that it is possible to avoid without rolling if you're close
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>>156771278
Why wouldn't I want my primary weapon to be divine to take advantage of my faith stat? Or is it because you can't have an infused weapon buffed at all?
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>>156771329
>Wasting humanity on shitters
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>>156771452
Infusing a weapon means you can't buff it, it's the same for all souls games. Divine is only good for catacombs, and even then once you kill the necromancers it's a waste since they don't respawn and killing them causes the skeletons to stop getting up.
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>>156771430
Why people in FC getting killed by ultras?
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>>156771452
You can't buff infused weapons, and also divine scaling is kind of trash, it's alright for purging the unholy but a regular weapon covered in particle effects is actually better use of your stats.
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>>156771430
Ultras, especially the BKUG and LGS are amazing at spacing and punishing rolls. what are you on kid?
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>>156771606
Because they're trash.
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>>156771606
Because /dsg/ is cute
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>>156771539
DaS3 doesn't even have the decency of being a barebones catacombs
>More trap variety
>No necromancers
>No spooky atmosphere
>Not / barely lighted
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>>156771452
any scaling elemental upgrade except magic at high int is trash. however, having a divine main weapon for mobs and slb/dmbing a normal weapon for bosses/pvp is pretty good
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>>156771647
ok scottjund, what ever you say.
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>>156771474
>not having farmed infinite humanity beforehand
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>>156771606
Because we're shit and only play on FCs with our memeta builds instead of legitimately invading and gitting gud
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>>156771709
>Farming humanity to waste on shitters
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>>156771728
B-bully!
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>>156771085
TELL ME
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>>156771647
You're not trash? Proove it. How about duels?
Stream your duels agaisnt /dsg/. Right now. If you lose even once agaist UGS user, you will be expelled from /dsg/. Your steam/PSN profile will be of the wall of shame. Tell us your character name and platform.
>/dsg/ spring
>only retards getting hit by magic
>/dsg/ autumn
>Tinder is OP
>mages are ez mode
>ashen flask = chug
>mages are cancer
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>>156743505
"Osuroesu" so basically Osro-es. How the heck did that become "Oceiros"?
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>>156771728
>not farming humanity for the non-verbal bantz
>>156771085
it may be just an npc, although he seems to mock ds1 minmax ""fashion"". hopefully it's a pvp boss
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>>156771606
People in /dsg/ fight clubs are the same whiny pieces of shit you meet in this general. They go as far as crying about "tryharding" and banning equipment from their echochamber fight clubs. Do you honestly expect some sort of a skill from them?
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>>156769736
Invasions are fine and the host should have the advantage, BUT:

There are way too many factors that favor the hosts that are always given, like the Estus advantage, the fact that the system always prioritizes phantoms over lone hosts, the health advantage and the fact that friendly phantoms have full Estus too AND invaders are just Estus vending machines makes invaders not even speedbumbs for players, it makes the engagement so completely in favor of the hosts that it's simply not fun for the invaders.

I hate the idea of invaders forcing the host to 1v1 honorduel them so that they can slow walk at the hosts while reciting some bullshit anime monologue internally. Invasions are invasions, the host shouldn't play fair and neither should the invader.

But yeah, the invasion system is totally overkill in siding with the host.
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>>156743417
The actual pronounciation would be Orn-STINE. Since it's german.
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>3 has numerous callbacks to Artorias
>"lol guiss its wolfblood meme warriors"
>"ah yeah boyss its Sif, le epic doggo"
>the fucking dlc will once again, have you fighting a wolf boss which some way is related to Artorias
>no Gold or Silver Tracers
>no Ciarans set
>as a final insult the place where you find the Hornet Ring only gives you the option to buy Artorias' set

Fuck you memezaki
Fuck your dog
Fuck your retard holy kniggit
And most of all fuck the edgy meme watchers with their STUPID FUCKING HAT
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>throw kukri at nameless kings dragon in mid flight and hit it
>causes the ripostable thing as it flies crashing to the ground

Holy shit that looked amazing
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>>156771878
Well right now there is real pros in /dsg/. I wanna see how good they're
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>>156771836
Oceiros japanese name is most likely taken/inspired from this dude:
https://en.wikipedia
.org/wiki/Osroes_I
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>>156771927
call luci, kobra, and ippiki :^)
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>>156771897
I never understood why would you want to lock on to NK in the first phase.
maybe they had health bars like the twins 2nd phase
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>>156771695
scott was killed by UGS quite a lot
>it's le latency
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>>156771993
It's funny how when ever he's beaten he scrambles for some sort of excuse, in his latest video he dies to duelkat 3hit combo and says he was distracted thinking about the hurricane that's going to hit him in cali soon.
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>>156741993
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>>156771891
>>no Gold or Silver Tracers
They're useless.

>>no Ciarans set
Ciaran is a dumb unfashionable whore.
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>>156771891
in high slice of life
Arty would be the cool guy with the obligatory fanclub (but actually Arty is an introvert being mistaken for a cool guy) and Ciaran would be his childhood friend.
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>>156771606

Because of shit latency, the most OP of all weapons
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>>156768338
>over retarded "DS1/2/3 is shit" shitposting

Then you had "DaS1 / DeS" is shit-shitposting.
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>>156771891
ugh frogposters are so unsightly, why do you have to cram as many memes into your post and greentext everything? You're all the same
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>>156771971
>Ippikek
Is that faggot still getting comfy in vent with his frauleins?
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>>156771826
Tell me how many times /dsg/ has said halberds weren't among the strongest classes in the game.
No one like tinder mages because they don't play as mages, they play as halberd users with blue throwing knives. I'd not mind at all fighting a mage with Mlgs, Gsoj or Sage rapier, they're fun, but pretending a halberd faggot is a mage is like pretending a 40/40 dark CCS user is a pyro
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>>156772150
Which wasn't nearly as autistic as what he have now.
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>>156771120

What really triggers me is how bad the point down gesture looks like in DaS3. It was perfect in DaS1.
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>>156771856
With any luck, the upcoming pvp trailer should clear this up. I'd be totally okay with 2 bosses as long as there's a pvp one.
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>>156772209
I just want my BB dust off gesture.
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>>156772209
What really triggers ME is that there's no look skyward or shrug in 3
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>>156771826
Where all those brave warriors and mlg_pro? Don't tell me you fear UGS? Only retards getting hit by UGS
>inb4: phoneposters and hardcore backpedalling
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>>156772189
Mages in souls series are always melee builds with highly damaging arrows and throwing knives because From can't make an actually good magic system. They don't magically become non-mages simply because they use a strong weapon.
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>>156772256

What about this one? The game still had it in the network test.
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>>156772284
Magic/stealth builds are suprisingly effective in invasions though.
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>>156772251
>>156772256
>No Spawl in BB
>No Shh!/Beg For Life in DaS
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>>156772332
They are very effective overall with the exception of boring duel shittery. Stealth is ez mode in pve because you can run past everything, mages are overpoweringly strong even at NG+7.
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>>156772274
Can you please stop posting shit anime?
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>>156772284
No, he's right about Tinder mage. Ot's works only playing passive. You can't cast shit because of stamina and halberd moveset
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>>156772454
>works only playing passive
That can be said about entire series in general. It always rewards and rewarded passive play.
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>>156772321
isn't that the out of items animation? I'm checking the videos of the network test and the pax demo and I don't see no new gesture
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>>156772420
I never post shit anime.
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>>156771120
What weapon is that? I need that for my Griffith playthrough
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>>156772321
Godamn, I miss DS1 elite knight. That shine...
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I hope the DLC introduces a merchant that sells gems.
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>>156772516
>isn't that the out of items animation?

Yes, DaS3 had it as well but for some reason it got changed in the release version.
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>>156772585
>Griffith playthrough
Carthus Curved Sword
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>>156772585
It's the one that drops off the fire witches or whatever the fuck they're called in pontiff land
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>>156772454
>emptying your stamina bar
>against a dark bead spammer
that's like using slow, parriable attacks and complaining he oneshot you with hornet crystal greaclub
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>>156772646
>for some reason
During the March DS3 event i remember one russian journo talking with Miyazaki and he mentioned that he likes all player interactions unless players are being straight offensive to each other. This is most likely a reason he removed majority of mocking gestures.
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>>156772585
It's a giant candle, stick to ricards
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>>156772585
Black Knight greatsword
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>>156768407
You should upgrade your weapons instead of focusing on leveling.

Unlike DS3, DS1 expects you to proactively upgrade your weapons.
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>tfw farming spiderwoman
This is pretty fun, too bad its like 40 minutes between summons
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>>156772734
What did he think people used well what is it and look skyward for?
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>>156772713
>using slow, parriable attacks against a parry spammer*
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-Eat shit

Bandai Namco, 2016
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>>156768407

Just summon Mildred, you don't even need to upgrade your weapon if you summon her.
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>>156772734
>i remember one russian journo talking with Miyazaki and he mentioned that he likes all player interactions unless players are being straight offensive to each other.
>This is most likely a reason he removed majority of mocking gestures.

How the fuck was this man able to design anything as cool as DeS/DaS1/BB in the first place? Is he like Hitler/George Lucas that had a great vision but relied on competent people to make his vision happen but when he tries to meddle in directly, his input sucks.
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>>156772965
BB was a fluke.
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>>156772965
>How the fuck was this man able to design anything as cool as DeS/DaS1/BB in the first place
Because he has a great imagination.
But he was most likely horrified with the amount of griefing in DS1.
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>19 players at New Londo Ruins
>Only 4 humans

This isn't a hard area, why so many hollows?
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>>156772881
How much is E in dollars?
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>>156768407
>I've forgotten how ruthless DS1 is now.
What. The only ruthless boss in DS1 is Bed of Chaos, and that's only because they decided to do some stupid shit, ran out of time, and then proceeded to do something even stupider than they originally planned.
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>>156773013
BB wasn't a fluke, it was propped up by big Sony money.
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>>156772965
>This is most likely a reason
This is not fact anon. And more important can someone post source of this?
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Anyone want to co-op on ps4 before I get blown away by the hurricane?
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>>156773059
The point he was making was that it doesn't try to make you progress at the pace it wants like 3 and to a slightly lesser extent 2. It's very easy to reach Quelaag unaware blacksmiths exist, I did so in my first playthrough. It doesn't try doing convenient things for you at all
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>>156773169
It's pretty easy to see for an intelligent person if you look at the major changes going from ds1 to ds2 and then ds3 for the pvp mechanics.
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>>156773035
There's no point in going human in NLR because half of the area is disabled for online.
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>>156773043
11S , but steam doesn't apply currency rates to their discounts
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>>156773249
>It's pretty easy to see for an intelligent person
It's bland logical fallacy.
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>>156773224
>Not reading item descriptions
You deserved it.
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>>156772321
>ds3 managed to look worse than 1 when it comes to armor lighting
fucking
jesus
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>>156773434
Oh no, I did. I started with master key, and fumbled around until I ended up at blighttown. Had I met Andre, I'd have done it, but I simply never found the guy until later, which made me fuck up Gargoyles
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>>156768473
Here is a 100% safe strat in case you give up and want to beat them in order to progress : _______________________ _______________________________ ____________________________ ___________ JUST GIT GUD YOU FUCKING CASUAL _______________________ ___________ __________________ _________ _________
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>>156773579
>I started with master key
You deserved it.
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How would you rank the 3 magic schools in DaS3 as far as fun and general viability goes?
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>>156773774
The other items looked useless. Why would I not?
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>>156773803
Pyro > Sorc > FTH > kek > Hex
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>>156773818
Unless you're trying to twink, every starting gift is useless.
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>>156774052
Would going full Hex be even remotely viable? I'm kind of interested by how they're spread across all three magic types.
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>>156774116
I said for the first playthrough.
Looked at the consumables, didn't want something I probably could get more off, this leaves 1 ring whose use I didn't know, an item whise use I didn't know, both of which I didn't want to risk.
It was either life or key, and because I felt regen would trivialise stuff too much given how good it was in DeS. I went with key hoping to find secrets I could only get with it.
It's a choice that makes sense and the initial point was that the other games have ways to protect you from fucking yourself
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>>156773803
>Fun
Miracles > *
>Viability
Sorcery > Miracles > Pyromancy

>>156774174
You can't effectively go full hex since they're not their own class. You'd have to wear four damage rings just to be able to cast black serpent and great deep soul.
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>>156774495
>miracles most fun
Elaborate?
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>>156774357
Tiny beings ring doesn't give regen. All gifts are useless. By the time you need any of them you already have them.
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>>156774615
He trolling.
>Sorcery > Miracles > Pyromancy
>Sorcery more viable than Pyro
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>>156774357
>regen
tiny being's ring doesn't give regen. master key is a bad idea for a first run, as it allows you to sequence break and often get your ass kicked. it even says so in the description
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>>156774741
Did you even play the game? The character creator says it gives regen.
You aren't even trying to get the point of view of a new player
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>>156774615
It's pretty much solely for hyper armor dickwaving with lightning stake and storm

>>156774764
Sorcery's shitty throwing knives and straight sword r1s are still more viable than pyromancy's black serpent / CBV spam
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>>156774815
See >>156774817
The first time you don't know what key truly does
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>>156774817
>The character creator says it gives regen
no it doesn't. the description is ambiguous and people think it says so, but it does't
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>>156774958
correction, i remembered wrong. it does say so in the chararcter creation, it's the description that mentions increase in hp.
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>>156774958
It says HP recovers slowly while equipped. That's exactly what is written in the creator. How can you interpret it in any ither way? Key only says it opens locks
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>>156774879
>Sorcery's shitty throwing knives
Fire surge
>straight sword r1
Nope. Eats more stamina than SS R1, deals same damage as dark infused SS.
CBV is best spell in game. Faster than Great Soul Arrow, has AOE and deals CSS tier damage. Don't need any candles.
Black Flame combo-wombos
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Someone please coop with me. The hurricanes almost here and it's going to blow me away
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>>156775291
I'll co-op with a fellow FLanon, depending on what you need help with.
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>>156775332
It's too late the hurricane is here now. All I wanted was to coop with dsg.
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>>156775416
Goodbye anon, you'll be missed
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>>156775416
bye anon
*righty-ho*
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>>156775416
fuck up bitch, this hurricane ain't shit

just getting rain, so bored, doesn't compare to our previous hurricanes
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>>156775416
>beat Dank Souls
>can't beat a hurricane
You gonna take that?
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I don't understand hurricane meme
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someone use this image for the new thread
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>>156737202
>block a scythe-wielding boss with a shield
>nothing happens
REMEMBER ME, THE USE-GYRM-OR-NOTHING GUY?
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>>156771897
Like dunking Rathalos with a perfectly aimed bow power shot to the face.
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>>156775783
Ameri-kuns learn nothing from the 3 little pigs kids story
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>>156775907
Probably pierced the shield
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>>156767718
Wait, if you make a +10 weapon, can you not go back and make it into a fire weapon?
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>>156775907
>>nothing happens
I'm pretty sure all the Asses trailers were done with infinite stamina /health.
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>>156776020
yeah, you can degrade any level to a previous "ascending" point, except if you make it crystal
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>>156775907
The player in the trailer has god mode on
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do rapiers in dark souls 2 have any special properties? I know strike weapons are do more damage to enemies in armor. what about thrusting weapons?
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>>156776150
High counter
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>>156776150
rapier+DaS2 = easy mode
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How's this for a theory
>every single fromsoft employee has perma godmode on so they can "test" the game
>every one of them is as shit as the one featured in the ariandel trailer
>that's why they nerfed the greatlance because the greatlance is amazing at critical hits and all they do is block with their weapons so they get guardbroken with every second r1
>that's how they think carthus is balanced because they r1 once then backpedal forever waiting for stamina to regen while holding l1 infinitely
>that's how they think rolls are fine because they never let up their shield

pic related is probably how they operate
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>>156776389
didn't read
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>>156776443
It's ok anon, I'm going to post in the other thread because I posted in the wrong thread.
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New.. thread?
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>6min old thread
>no one links it here
??

>>156776327
>>156776327
>>156776327
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