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/pdg/ - Payday: The heist & Payday 2 General

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Previous Heist: >>156441721

>Workshop Manual
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/workshopmanual/

>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/

>Extremely Autistic Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (Frank is back)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://pd2skills.com/

>Old Skilltree Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/hFYr1Io.jpg

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (extremely fucking out of date we only keep this here for console plebs):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
// NOTE: Engines that are exactly 400 pressure are never correct! Check the second link for pressure listing if all the engines got bagged by some idiot! ///
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group full of shitters:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/HR91ZxX2

>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VbhCe21nhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHEkCM3fTrc

There is everything wrong with Silent Shitter Aced.
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NEW SHIT

ONE VR: http://store.steampowered.com/app/382360/

HOXTON’S HOUSEWARMING PARTY: http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/housewarming
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>>156734954
Thank you
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update when
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>>156734954
>Advertising the shitty VR game here.
Buy a banner shill.
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Get your party hats 4 free you slow fucks:^)

http://www.overkillsoftware.com/housewarmingkeys/
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Reminder to get your own Alpha Mauler for free!

https://na.alienwarearena.com/giveaways/payday-2-alienware-alpha-mauler-key-giveaway

Just get yourself an account to get your code and done

Keep those helmets flying ;)
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>>156736598
ew
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>ONE down
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explosives are a crutch
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>>156737938
guns are a crutch
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>>156738349
you are a crutch
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>>156738490
you too
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>>156738589
no you
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>>156738641
no you
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>>156738748
shut up
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>>156738748
me too thanks
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>>156738801
you first
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>>156739061
make me
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>>156739084
please
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>>156739187
not enough
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>>156739280
pretty please
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>Crimefest started.
>Nothing but shitposting and light shilling.
Payday is dead. Nothing's going to pull it back now.
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>>156739461
okay anon :3
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>>156740232
thanks my friend
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when are mayhem and one down coming?
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>>156741361
Tomorrow. Not sure about the exact time though.
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>>156739612
Probably because none of the new stuff has actually been added yet.
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>>156739612
Well, atleast this shit >>156734954 is the current happening, OP post still got the "tourney" link, also isn't like that a lot of people know about the alpha maul

>Preorder PD2 DLC
Shit is dumb
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>>156741541
New difficulties are Day 3 if the previous thread is to be believed.
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>>156742723
Day one actually. Day 3 are new masks
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>>156742723
The website says day 1.
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Trashley please. I promise to stop sexually harassing you if you dump some Sydney or Biker codes in here.
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>>156742875
i wanna cum on his tits and arse
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i want ashley to gag on my huge 7 inch cock
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>>156742875
Did you try the Sydney codes in the previous thread?
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>>156743087
Those were reposted from a thread on the Steam board, they were all gone by the time I saw them.
>>156742963
>on
Please, traps are meant to be cummed inside.
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>>156743323
>i wanna cum inside his tits
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>>156745536
Don't act dumb.
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>>156734954
>payday 2 john wick weapon pack with purchase

don't buy this

I heard it isn't even exclusive
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>>156746146
We know, shit is literally just a "you get it 4 free if you preorder when it gets out for PD2"
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What's mutators?
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>>156746625
Game changers
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>>156746625
silly wacky options like "turn every cop into a bulldozer" and "100x spawn rate" and a couple semi-functioning ones like "2x specials" and some shit like that
you know, novelties you'll try once or watch a youtube video of once and never touch again except to watch youtube videos of tryhards cheesing through a challenge of every mutator at the same time
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>>156746625
Server mutators.
Basically server settings.

Like how in other games you could have different modes (e.g. instagib) or change server variables (low-grav, big heads, etc.).

Hopefully this means people can mark whether a server is vanilla or not so that you can just avoid cheater lobbies AND/OR this shit works with Quickplay. If it doesn't work with Quickplay, there is zero reason to give a fucking shit.
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>>156746625
Cant wait for them to be some kind of assets :^)
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dlc sale when? I want to comeback
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>>156747037
when you download the DLC unlocker
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>>156747071
lol
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>>156747037
probably literally tomorrow
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>>156747037
Tomorrow, game is going to be free for 10 days too
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I like Nu-Hoxton
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I love how valve's pulling an overkill at the moment
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Why is Hoxton just a meme puppet now?
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>>156749932
Because Wolf's VA quit.
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SELLING DRILLS ON THE BLACK MARKET WASN'T YOUR BEST IDEA WAS IT?
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>>156749932
Because this is wankerfest
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>>156749932
Because OVK forgot about Jiro's son.
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>>156750007
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Skins are finished.
http://www.wsgc.wa.gov/publications/press-releases/valve-pressrelease.pdf
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>>156751676
Thanks CS:GO
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>>156751676
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>>156751676
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>>156749918
what did they do
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>>156751676
late, also here's a free fuck (you)
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>>156752205
probably this

>>>/v/353986359
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>>156751676
>>156752461
thats real fuckin neato
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>>156752461
If they're not careful, Valve might have to go back to actually making games.
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post art
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>>156753874
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Pls restore Sokol and Jacket's faces
it's my only wish for Crimefest this year ;_;
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>>156743057
>>156743323
>>156745536

You guys are strange >.<

>>156742875

Why would i want you to stop?

Butcher pack:
WMH3R-I5FG7-43FKL
GGB5I-ZX9GY-TWDLR
TCA5H-EKBL5-WP6GK
4EV0I-E7598-9XKHA
0ALF3-XJXV8-DJMWL
DFT0Y-WJGYJ-TBR4L
W6TF3-EARKL-RWEWN

I just hope the updates go smooth but i'm glad people like the idea of most of the stuff coming.
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>>156755304
>TCA5H-EKBL5-WP6GK
thank
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>>156755304
>Butcher pack
but the butcher's pack is free
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>>156755304
please show me your wiener
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>>156755304
In that case, I promise to keep sexually harassing you if you dump some Sydney or Biker codes.
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>>156755304
Trashley, how much does OVK actually give a shit about people pirating DLCs? Besides the community bans that you're forced to do and do nothing and I don't even know of a single person that was banned for it anyways
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>>156755854
Actually, on this note, how hard do they look into piracy of the DLCs? Because I use the unlocker and don't post or comment in the hub in case someone looks into me.
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>>156755854
>Besides the community bans that you're forced to do
>forced
Yeah guys come on Trashly's one of us. He's just doing his job.
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>>156755935
if you don't post or comment in the hub then them banning you from the hub would have literally no effect anyways
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>>156756171
You lose the community items in game
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>>156756171
b-but then you also lose the steam group items the DLC unlocker gives you anyways!
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>>156756171
I don't post there because I don't want to get banned. I'm not sure if they would look into me and see that I pirated DLCs, if I did post there.
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>>156756215
the DLC unlocker unlocks them right back
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>>156756275
Overkill probably wouldn't look into you, but the drones check the profiles of everyone that isn't drinking the kool aid and then go running to mods if there's anything out of place.
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>>156756456
They'd probably figure out that I've SAMed a lot of stuff, then.
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>>156756518
And they'd ban you for that. Because if your achievements aren't legit you're probably puppy kicking baby punching DLC unlocker scumbag.

Or in reality they just get pissy because they wasted time on shitty achievements and someone else didn't.
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>>156756518
If you make a post on the bug reporting forum, they scan your achievements for cheating and then ban you without reading your post.

Best part is the fact that their scripts generate a lot of false positives.
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>>156756827
>Overkill
>Good scripting.
Pick one.
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>>156756960
what about it
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>>156760371
Page 6.
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pls gib free sniper pack dlc
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>>156761178
Sent :^)
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>>156761423
I'm waiting
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>>156761696
I pm'd you it, not sure why it's taking so long
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>>156761717
got it now, thanks
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>>156761717
send me one too pls
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>>156677104
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Hector Begs You For Mercy! (hector_4_jobs)
- Mass Murderer (any_300_kills)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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Based John Cleese breathing new life into this dead game.

Crimefest is going to be epic xDD
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>do a runthrough of the safehouse before it's gone for good
>there are two Twitches in two different vans
Spooky.
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>>156769365
There was a third van inside the safehouse?
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>>156769452
There's a third empty van in the Safehouse garage.
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hey pdg how do i set lobbyname longer than chat length limit
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Mayhem?
More like
WHENHEM
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>>156772940

Soon.
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>>156755304
>>.<
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>[NGBTN]
what did he mean by this
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>Meth batch is complete
what did he mean by this?

what mod is this and why do I have it
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>new difficulty
>new safehouse
Shit
Guess I'm coming back
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>we want the shitter audience
what did overkill mean by this?
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>>156775663
They asked for you specifically.
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It's Friday bitches
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>>156773132
I WANT IT NOW, YOU s-slut
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steam reviews are such cancer and I am so mad every time I read them
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115th for kawaii-dozer
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>someone will inevitably make a mod that brings back the old,bland,boring safehouse
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>>156778393
better grab the assets and .pdmod them now before they're gone for good
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>>156778449
they will remain in the game,because Safehouse Nightmare will feature the old safehouse
might be wrong tho
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good morning

so, house warming starts today?
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>>156779592
HOUSE WARMING WHEN
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>>156779701
in 4 or 5 hours
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>>156779592
>>156779701
Oh i can warm your house alright
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>>156778528
Safehouse Nightmare is a copy+paste.

Sort of like how UK Job is a copy+paste of Jew Store instead of a scripted variant, and how each of the five H&Ts are all copy+pastes.
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>>156779592
>>156779701
About 2 hours.
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>>156779815
are you a boy or a girl?
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>>156778528
Unless I'm mistaken, OVK adds and removes Safehouse Nightmare so it doesn't just magically stay in the game.
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>>156780340
doesn't matter

>>156779815
please give me love
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>>156778393
>>156778449
>>156778528
I AM READY
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>>156780471
Here
(You)
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>>156780682
Why.
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Update at what time?
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>>156781354
Less than 2 hours.
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>>156777929

You should see some of the ones i've had to deal with. One was on the store page and was complete fiction but had loads of upvotes.

I spoke to steam and it was hidden and spoke to the author and explained why it was set to hidden as he was making up lies about some events ect.

Then he deleted my comments and then said "OMG I'm being harassed, Overkill said i'm mentally retarded." Saying i called him that after speaking to him after he deleted my comments to him.

Sadly for him the Steam moderators can see the deleted comments... and he kept messaging me for months threatening legal action and saying i called him more names....
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>>156781073
I need an excuse to dick with modding tools anyway, and I have a few hundred spare GBs so who cares.
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>>156780907
I love you.
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>>156781709
so what makes it any different than this place lmao
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>>156781709
Dump Lootbag codes Ashly!!!


pretty please! <3
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>>156781709

Neat sounds like a fun time. Any more stories?

>>156782004

We are powerless shitposters
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>>156782067

That usually is the same thing over and over. Some guy threatens legal action after being banned for breaking the rules. There is always some drama going on that needs sorting but i can't really go into personal cases for privacy reasons.
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>>156782024
>There are bad goys in this thread right now who didn't preorder
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>>156782375
>mfw I want to use the lootbag DLC sight, but the regular solid black military sight looks better
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>top-tier skill that allows you to use a civ/domcop/jokeredcop as a human shield
>meatshield gets a chance to break free every 4 seconds,this chance increases by 10% every 10 seconds
>tougher enemies start with bigger chances (ex. guards/cops start with a 10% chance to break free,gensec elites start with 40% and so on)
>you move slightly slower than crouching,and are completely vulnerable from the back
>having a meatshield increases your chances to dominate an enemy. Enemies have a chance to hold their fire if you face them with a meatshield(may or may not apply to specials)
>allows you to move domcops in stealth

Would you?
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>>156782685
>using anything other then the see more sight
Shit tastes
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Is it possible to solo deathwish shadowraid?

i've never been a huge fan of stealth but I want to try
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>>156782865
Yes.

It's pretty comfy.
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>>156782865
anything is possible when you try anon
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>>156782865
Extremely possible once you learn the map. Best level design in the game.

Only half complicated thing is getting the keycard in the right place for the vault
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>>156782865
if you played it at least twice you can do it np
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>>156782865
Yeah just be patient and don't be surprised if it takes 20-30 minutes. I've had plenty of runs ruined where I had enough bags but haven't secured them yet but my autism got the best of me and I got impatient and sprinted in front of a guard who I had to kill then of course another one comes walking down the stairs right after that then it just all goes to shit
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>>156782865
stelf is best done solo anyway.

Even bag runners fuck up a lot.
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>>156782865
you cal solo the samurai armor with a bit of skill and luck.
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>>156783428
>you cal solo the samurai armor
yeah, i know

i got it on solo overkill
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>>156782865
As long as you block the guard heli, it's pretty easy.
There's a lot of running back and forth, so Sensor Mines are a godsend since with them you know for certain when it's safe to sprint all the way and when it's not.
Don't open the doors to balconies, because the AI gets stuck in place when it tries to path there if the doors aren't open.
Also, use Sixth Sense on the top floor to check if the roof is empty, and then break the window in the side corridor. If the door is locked, nobody will ever go there, and it makes hauling loot to the waterfront dumpster significantly faster than crawling through the sewers.
Then you just need to keep an eye on the jumpsuit civilian who always has a keycard. Try to get him in a spot where you can easily run to the vault, because if you don't you'll have to resort to praying for convenient card drops from Murkies.
Comfy as fuck when you learn how to do it.
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>>156781709
How was the review fiction?
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>>156783428
Outside of extreme corner cases, there's no real luck involved. Just wait for the card civilian to pass by close enough.
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>>156783796
10/10 kicking simulator XD

New DLC Overkill Wallet Heist XD

You can cook meth 10/10 would cook again

Stole a car then drove it into a wall XD 10/10 car crash simulator


1000 of 1000 people found this review funny


LOL BEST REVIEW EVER HAHA
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>>156784087
>kicking simulator
You do get kicked a lot
>New DLC Overkill Wallet Heist
He's implying overkill are fucking kikes that only care about your money, which is true
>You can cook meth
Again, that's true
>Stole a car then drove it into a wall
This is also possible

fuck off almir
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>>156783796

He just went on about some events that never happened. Also claimed that if you post on the forum you were entirely banned from the game as in literally couldn't play it, which isn't true.
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>>156784360
go away tribe
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>>156784256

Yeh Steam reviews are a bit of a joke and generally punish any individual opinion even if it's one based on genuine logic.
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>>156742541
You'll be able to get it normally, it's just a freebie with the preorder.
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HAPPENING
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>>156785084
>being this tricky
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>>156785084
BETTER NOT BE TRICKY
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>>156785084
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>>156785217
>>156785220
>>156785287
>hating on based trickybros
lol
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>>156785515
die
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Should I give Overkill my money?
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>>156785740
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>>156785740
Yes we- I mean, they deserve it, goy ;)
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>>156785740
What DLC is it, goy?
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>>156785740
I dunno.
Hard to tell when you don't even show us what you're buying, you fucking dumbass.
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>>156785740
No sales, no video games.
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>>156786015
i'll update once the sale goes live
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20 minutes lads
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>>156750159
>that Cleese commentary
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Daily reminder Overkill doesn't approve suit builds and perk decks
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>>156782865
Yep, after a while you can do it in about 18 minutes all loot+ vault solo
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>>156787592
>Jacket
>With ICTV
>And no animal mask
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happibing
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>>156788246
Don't go being tricky now
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>>156788246
>tfw nothing
I already drank half of my beer you swedish jews, hurry up
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>>156788573
what kind of beer
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>>156787592
I remember watching the devs play around the skill rework beta patch. Not only were they fucking terrible, they didn't even know how their own skills work.

Which I guess ultimately is fine, they develop the game not play it, but holy shit it was a ride.
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>>156788630
http://www.schlenkerla.de/rauchbier/beschreibunge.html
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Sales are on, so happening soon I guess?
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ashley pls
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>>156789385
bae
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Should I, /pdg/?
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>that one down mask

muh dik
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WE NEED YOU BUDDY, GET UP
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>>156789629
Chivraly, not even once, all guns are shit and all melee are also shit
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>>156789629
wait until later in the sale i m o
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If these things get any more spiky the cops should start taking contact damage.
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>>156789629
Alesso is fun to solo stelf and loud is fun too, chivalry is garbage, bomb heists suck
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>>156789629
Chivalry, no. Never.
Bombs are okay
Alesso's heist is kinda lame, but it has some sweet tunes.
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>>156789761
where is that?
did i get a cached version of the site or something?
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IT'S UP
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>>156789629
chivalry is trash

even for a good goy like me, that one was the only one I didn't buy
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>>156789842
>>156789790
>>156789728
Getting just the heists then.
Thanks lads.
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>>156789913
please be of no trickenings
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>>156789913
CHAINS HATES TRICKY
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>>156789898
Starbreeze twitch stream.
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UPDATE IS LIVE
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>>156790167
IT'S HAPPENING
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>>156790167
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>>156790167
mundo no trickerino
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>>156790167
>>156790232
>>156790235
>>156790258
2.8 GIGS BOYS

RESTART STEAM
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WEW
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>>156790376
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>>156790376
>>
>steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791433980119/announcements/detail/861702674733917617

>In the One Down difficulty players can only go down once before going into custody.
>Oh, and Bulldozers have started running and can't be stunned.

AHHHHHHHHHHH
>>
>Bulldozers can't be stunned and will rush like in PAYDAY

I just played PAYDAY and remembered the PTSD from rushing Bulldozers

Oh god now
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>>156790336
>>156790336
>>156790336
>>156790336
>>156790336

THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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>>156790376

took them long enough.
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>>156790376
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>Overkill developers art,
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>>156790376
>>
WHY IS IT NOT DOWNLOADING
GIVE ME THE FUCKING UPDATE
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>>156790682
RESTART STEAM
>>
>Achievements will now trigger on a given difficulty and higher

Fucking great, at least now casuals and shitters will shut up about it
>>
WEW

LAD
>>
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/ovk-media/2016/10/hox-daymad-zealteamwallpaper.png
fuck me they are edgy
>>
>No changes to stealth on One Down

WEW
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>>156790443
>hard and very hard not merged
YOU TOLD ME OVERKILL HAD CHANGED, TRANSHLY.
>>
>>156790712
RESTARTING STEAM IS A LITERAL MEME
NOW GIVE ME MY FUCKING UPDATE
>>
>>156790813
so will they just have more hp and damage or will they be buffed in a more interesting way?
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>>156790925
NO I WON'T
ENJOY BEING LEFT BEHIND
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Well I was going to play Digital Devil Saga today but fuck that I guess
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>>156790925

Steam only checks for updates every so often. Restarting triggers an automatic update check.
>>
habbening
>>
>Doing a STREAM to answer questions JUST AFTER THE UPDATE WAS RELEASED AND PEOPLE ARE DOWNLOADING IT

WHY
>>
>one down is harder than tournament mode

wew

>>156791137
cuz spoilers tardo
>>
>>156790809
As someone who had to play quite literally every single heist in a row for the hard and very hard masks while already having the OVK and DW masks

Fuck off
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>removed pro jobs
AND WHERE THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GET EXTRA EXPERIENCE AND MONEY
FUCK YOU OVERKILL
>>
>>156791250

Stealth One Down

It probably has a stratospheric XP multiplier
>>
>>156791295
its probably 15x (DW was 13x)
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>>156790443
>Mayhem is for players who think Overkill is too easy but DW is too hard
FUCKING
FINALLY
>>
>You can now restart Big Oil
>All stealth heists now have immense XP and money modifiers with no added difficulty
>Meanwhile loud players have to deal with OW THE EDGE difficulty

Fucking devastated

I will do One Down Shadow Raid and One Down Murky Station until the lights go out
>>
safehouse customization now?
>>
>>156791295
>one down shadow raid is just european extreme
>a single ! means mission failure
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>>156791414
Safehouse customization never.
>>
>>156791414
Tomorrow.
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>>156791414
tomorrow
>>
>>156791408
>One down shadow raid

That garbage heist worth no XP at all?

Go do Framing Frame or Election Day and ride the 20-25% stealth bonus into big money
>>
>>156791451
i will hunt ashley and fuck her infront of almir if i don't get safehouse customization
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happening
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time to grind this shitty mayhem mask
>>
>Dozers can't be stunned

Is it the Rocket Launcher's time to shine?
>>
>>156791573

Welcome to 15 minutes ago
>>
>>156791520
Almir would probably enjoy that.
>>
>tfw the Linux update is 10.6 GB
what the fuck sweden
>>
>dozer appears
>everybody is down
yep, checks out
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>Mayhem so you don't fall asleep or kill yourself on Overkill or Death Wish with pubs
>Bulldozers are now going to be remotely difficult again
>finally a new Safe House after 3 years
>flashbang throwables
>new shotgun
>server mutators
>new Safe House heist
>John Cleese as a butler

Is PAYDAY 2 going to be fun
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>>156791250
I liked Pro Jobs as a pleb. Back when money was an issue it was exciting to take risks and play Pro Job Rats.
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>>156791630
>mfw RPG doesn't kill an OD dozer in one hit
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>>156791792
ARE YOU JUST SAYING THAT OR IS THAT THE CASE

I MEAN IF IT IS THE CASE SURELY HE CAN'T TAKE MORE THAN A FEW BULLETS
>>
>One down difficulty,

AHAH FIRST AID KITFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH NOW
>>
>>156791250
Mutators will probably include Pro Jobs
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Going to be playing with Overkill_Sebastian on Mayhem and hosting some games to let some publics in. I'll be in the /vg/ chat and payday 2 chat if you want to join.
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>>156791842
>Not calling them FAKFags
>>
>>156791842
Uppers don't give you downs :^)
>>
WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO DRIVESHAFT

OVERKILL FUCKING PLEASE
>>
ONE DOWN GAMEPLAY ON STREAM

FOR YOU FAGS WITH SHIT INTERNET
>>
>>156791842
inspire BTFO
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>>156791616
>not having dw mask already
>not experiencing chivo barrage when launching the game
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>>156791842
that's doctor bags you fag. faks are now a must have
>>
>still hasn't used a doc bag
>>
>>156791906
>want to watch
>know I should play it myself first
Why you do this
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should I?
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>Nine Lives still gives you an extra down

Confirmed most OP perk in the game

Old Perk Guide BTFO
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>>156792197
Dragan a shit.
>>
>>156791924
THEY GOT RAPED AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
Post builds pls
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>>156792197
Biker perk deck is shit, decent shotgun with low ammo, melee is another not katana
>>
>Lasted 4 minutes and 40 seconds on FWB One Down

Holy shit, did anyone catch the XP/money multiplier in the pause screen ?
>>
>>156792210
>hey guys lets make some skills essential on one down
quality balancing
>>
>>156792425

I think its x15 when i was testing.
>>
One Down
OD
Overdosed
New meme
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>crossroad
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>>156792439
>getting downed

shitter detected
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>>156791906
ashley how BIG is your wiener
>>
>>156792615
no i will never not call it one down because the name is that bad
>>
>>156792668
At least they didn't remove the sniper's laser...
>>
>>156792692
OD sounds pretty dank tho
>>
>this damage
what the fuck
>>
There is only one heist I haven't done yet and that is Murky Station I completely forgot about it
>>
>>156792692
shut the fuck up happy you sack of shit
>>
>>156792615
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL AN OVER-DOZER
>>
will mayhem be like release day boiling point?
>>
>Z Dozers are literally constantly moving at a quick sprint

MY PAYDAY PTSD IS RISING AGAIN
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What is this shit?
>>
>>156793107
Oh good, it's not just me.
>>
>>156793107
are you new or stupid friend
>>
Death Wish
One Wish
>>
>>156793107
did you buy the game a week ago
>>
>>156793107
Packing and unpacking files into/out of bundles. Just wait.
It actually baffles me that this game has such a shitty update system when it got over 100 updates. What the actual fuck, Overkill.
>>
>start up game
>get all mayhem achievments

huh...
>>
>>156793214
I've played since launch
>>
>>156793245
donac dum
>>
>>156793368
No
>>
>>156793078
>Zealdozers move quick, have an even better LMG, and hunt in packs
The others had better be just as bad
>>
>Crime.Net filters will now be saved when set
>Removed Pro Jobs versions of heists
>Converted Pro Job only heists to regular heists
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is anything worth buying?
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>>156793232
you beat those heists on DW before the update. it works like that now where you get the lower difficulty masks
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>>156793673
The heists save goat and bomb
sydney
ninja
sokol
rust
dragan
bbq
clover if you like stelf
ak/car
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>>156793673
Wolf pack.
Point break i guess
The bomb heists
Rest is personal taste and Being a good goy
>>
>>156793673
Anything with the Butcher
All character packs
Classic heists
If you're a soloshitter, all the heists
Only good thing in Goat Sim is the music.
>>
>>156793673
All of it
>>
Did anyone hear me on the stream
>>
>>156794750
You sound like a fuckboy.
>>
Did they fixed the amount of gage packs on Mayhem, DW and OD?
>>
ashley stream Q&A when
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>>156795072
nope... 10 packs on OD
didnt check Mayhem
>>
>Removing the Pro Jobs made me immediately obtain all difficulty completionist achievements up to Overkill

Yeah, that's what I thought
>>
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>we make one deployable worthless and force you to take an essential skill
>this is our definition of difficulty
I'm not happy
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>>156795598
desu Nine Lives ACED was something that only shitters ignore, is a extra down, the fuck, what KIND OF RETARD doesn't grab it
>>
>>156795727
us retards who don't go down
>>
>>156795727

Am I being baited? Death Wish has been so easy for so long that no experienced player should have needed Nine Lives Aced (or anything in that tree, for that matter).
>>
Is Mayhem actually DW but with the breakpoints of OVK?
>>
>>156795727
that extra down is ESSENTIAL if we're ever gonna beat 28 downs
>>
>OD tans hit worse than DW black dozers
>OD cloakers are tankier than DW dozers
>OD dozers are just a big waste of ammo
yeah i'm not sure if this is fun
>>
>>156796102
>OD tans
i mean greys
>>
>One Down Security Guards make weird noises and take four Raven bodyshots/two Raven headshots to kill when alerted

I see
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>murky station on OD
>no lasers guarding the emp parts
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>>156796524
>weird noises
robots?
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>>156796524
Oh shit, is that the stealth change? They're all DW Shadow Raid guards?
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>Hoxton memout on mayhem
>open parking garage door
>no dozer
Is this due to mods or swedish quality coding?
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>>156797085
Sweden, yes!
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>>156795857
Just did Framing Frame loud on mayhem

It's like DW but with fucking confusing breakpoints

I can't one-shot body shot a regular security guard with the m308

What on earth is going on
>>
>>156797503
To clarify, this is actually pretty fucking awesome, but I found it pretty challenging to stay ammo neutral in a build where historically, I was almost always at full ammo.

I feel like low damage weapons are going to be really hard to use on Mayhem+
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>download update
>boot game up
>pic related happens
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I don't know what they did with the stealth Security Guards, but now they all make weird robot noises when alerted and take almost as many shots, if not a bit more, than a Murky to kill

This threw me off a bit, having to do a Bank Heist in five tries isn't my most glorious point, but I guess now I have to either kill when not alerted, or immediately dominate

Might also cause Suppressor Damage builds to become useful in stealth, ironically enough
>>
>>156797882

Enjoy being kicked from every lobby on Earth when HoxMemeHUD gets updated
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>>156797898
Can't you just dominate the guards?
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>>156798117
i don't think you can,no.
>>
>>156797882
See
>>156793679
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>>156798196
Have you tried it? It needs to be as soon as they spot you
>>
Muh breakpoints fags btfo
>>
>>156798254
>have you tried it?
yeah just ruined another fwb attempt so i can assure you.
>>
After a bit of preliminary testing, I'm led to believe that all normal assault rifles are now non-viable on OD

Only weapon type that seem viable are DMR Kit ARs, heavy snipers and heavy shotguns on-perk
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>mfw
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>>156798682
What steam theme is that?
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>>156798631
actually on further testing i think it's possible to dominate damaged guards.
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Tfw disc write error
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>>156798768
pressure before they cucked the skin
>>
Is... Is Mayhem the same as Death Wish, or am I missing something?
>>
>>156799012
Thanks
>>
>>156799197

Enemies deal less damage but have the same spawn rate, aggression and tactics.
>>
>>156799197
mayhem is like death wish but you can still survive with a shitty build
>>
hi maria
>>
twitch tv/starbreeze/v/93518599

1:39:58
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>launch game
>get overkill mask because pro jobs are gone
T-thanks.
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>joined a One Down lobby
>host kicked me for a vac ban in call of duty

I guess nobody cares about your playtime in Payday. Better host your own lobbies and invite friends who can play. Also, Revenge of the Angry Brit on OD is pretty hard and every enemy is a goddamn bullet sponges.
>>
>>156795598
not really sure what anybody expected. the power creep is retarded. i didn't play for like a year and came back to every gun one shotting everything while regenerating health and having inspire. there is nothing they can do aside from XD SO HARD type bullshit unless they nerf the piss out of the skills and guns
>>
>>156799486
Thanks for the clarification. Was expecting a bit more of a difference, kind of disappointing. A good start, at least.
>>
How do you re enable goonmod? Sorry for the silly question but I just got the game 2 days ago
>>
Anyone beat any One Down yet that's not jewelery store, four stores, uk job or stealth
>>
>>156801213
Nightclub :^)
>>
>3GB update
>uses 40GB of disk space
I'll never get over this holy shit.
>>
>>156801005
https://www.reddit.com/r/paydaytheheist/comments/540d55/am_i_the_only_one_that_keeps_crashing_for
>>
>>156801571
Thanks
>>
What's the bulldozer rushing like?
I'm a little mad already. Every enemy in DW was a cakewalk with dozers already being the only thing that could actually wipe a group. Not because they were even hard to kill but because they had retarded fucking damage.
>>
so hows OD loud?
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>all bows now do 1500 damage
>all grenade launchers now do 1300 damage
>neither of these was announced
Ahhahahahah what the fuck
>>
>>156801943
cancer.
>>
>>156801872
Cafe Escape, Death Wish, nine paintings. We holed up by the shop with the low barricades n' shit. Two saigadozers straight up goonsquaded us, instant wipe.

It's fucking amazing.
>>
>>156802194
Probably to rebalance Dozers being immune to stun and to make Overdeathwish less artificial.
>>
Okay, about to try and solo Alesso Heist stealth, who are my pager targets? There are 3(?) guys in the underground area and the one guy who patrols the sound booth, right? I'll just have to be fancy with camera loops since I can't kill camera guy.
>>
>>156801213
My crew ain't around / haven't gotten the update downloaded yet. Just chilling and getting the easy ones out of the way. I'm at H&T 3/4 going down Bain's list in order
>>
>>156800608
>cheating
>actually getting caught cheating
>>
>>156802797
I usually do underground boys, whichever shop the bag deposit turns out to be, and boothboy.
>>
>mayhem
>supposed to be between old overkill and old DW
>ALL common cops have 480 health (even broncops) except tans who have 960 (used to be 340 IN DEATH WITH)
>nearly every enemy is immune to staggering
GOOD balancing
>>
>>156802797
Yeah, fireworks guard and anyone underground. Tho you an avoid undeground ones .
>>
>finally download the update which was for some reason almost 11GB for the linux version
>game won't start
QUALITY SWEDISH PROGRAMMING
>>
Trash, sweetie. If you post some Sydney codes I'll frot with you and finish you off with my mouth.
>>
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WHY THE FUCK ARE THE ENEMIES IN THE NEW DIFFICULTIES LITERAL BULLET SPONGES
>>
>>156803173
Aim for the head
>>
>>156803357
We are.

>>156803043
>>
BOWS AND EXPLOSIVES ARE NEW META, THEY GOT BUFFED
>>
>>156803357
I do. But they still take 5-7 shots to the head with a 50 dmg weapon.
>>
>>156803173
YOU WANTED DIFFICULTY, RIGHT?
>>
>>156803357
>how to make harder4u
>increase health
>done!

>instead of giving the enemies smarter ai
>instead of giving them breaching charges
Stop making excuses for Overkill's incompetence.
>>
>>156803548
making AI smarter or coding new functions in would be waaaay too much effort for a company with a huge budget.
>>
I don't know what the fuck they did but cops in Overkill are goddamn lobotomized now. I run up to them and they literally take 5+ seconds to even notice I'm there at all. No, my PC is not a toaster
>>
>>156803524
NOT THIS KIND OF DIFFICULTY
THIS IS JUST FUCKED
>>
>>156803043
supposedly the spawn rate is lowered on mayhem but yeah, with those numbers it doesn't fucking matter. one down is even worse. cloakers have like 5.6k or something retarded.
>>
>Bows do 1500 damage now

Ha ha ha, holy shit. The bow's actually maybe going to be meta
>>
Chivraly pack is not shit anymore, wtf is overkill thinking, also explosives got buffed
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>40 damage ARs take 10 fucking headshots to kill a tan in mayhem
Wew
If they weren't already dead before...
>shoot mayhem grey on the head with bronco
>he doesn't even flinch
>>
>Told Steam not to update this trash
>Logged on Steam today and it started updating this trash.
That's great.
>>
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>cloakers have 3600 HP in mayhem
I was planning on them to fuck it up but holy christ I didn't think they could even fuck it up THIS BAD.
Old DW doesn't even exist anymore, Overkill is exactly the old Overkill and then there's the sudden jump to "every enemy has 3x the health they used to have in DW". Literally 3x.
>>
>use overkill raven with shotgun skills
>takes like 6 headshots to kill a taser on mayhem
>about the same for cloakers
More health is more difficulty right
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Well, /pdg/?
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>>156804487
Hol up *breaths in*

BOY *crits*
>>
So we're getting Elites in Mayhem?
>>
>>156804726
Everyone except the Taser, fuck the Taser

Is different
>>
>>156804487
Run away and take a hostage to get my girl out of custody
>>
For some retarded fucking reason tans now have grey body armor.
>>
>shoot tan with r93 in the face
>he doesn't even flinch
Wew lad
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So if our british butler shits on us for selling drills, what would he says for safes ?
>>
OD jokers are op as fuck, get joker if you want to OD.
>>
>>156805409
we get it you made $3 congrats
>>
>>156803981
>bows do 1500 damage
>crossbows do like 4k
>>
There is absolutely no way the health values for Mayhem aren't bugged. I don't think any living human being can think they are proper and intentionally put them in.
Knowing Overkill I'd bet they did something retarded like accidentally give Mayhem OD multipliers and didn't actually fucking test it.
But there is NO WAY these are intentional.
>>
>>156803981
>>156805529
light (cross)bows do 1500
heavy (cross)bows do 4000
>>
>>156805647
that or the new medic enemy is some health multiplier, sort of like the captain gives a defensive boost, and they fucking left it toggled on by default or something retarded. like i don't really have any doubt that people will go full autistic and find a way to min max it but what is the point?
>>
>>156805703
oh whoops, was looking at the english longbow (which does do 4k)
>>
>>156805647
I think Overkill just like their bullet sponges. Just look at the turret or Winters.
>>
so how many people just bought the chivalry pack thanks to this
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who /pastthesecondassaultwaveononedown/ here?
>>
>>156805529
>>156805703
High definition bow damage.
How can Consoleplebs can't even compete?
>>
>>156805923
they also buffed explosive damage so i don't know how the fuck this works anymore
>>
So, are there new enemy variants on Boiling Point as well?
>>
>>156806054
kinapuff and english longbow meta
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>>156804794
>Is different
From the Deathwish elites or from the Overkill units?

Does Mayhem actually have new unique models?

>tfw no special models for Murkywater units yet
>>
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>tfw looking at the mass of achievements i now have to chase
>>
>>156806023
Almost survived counterfeit. Downed as we tried to escape
>>
>>156806142
>Russian Taser has the Electric Center pattern on his mask

HEH
>>
>>156806142
From DW elites, American Taser is always the same
>>
>>156806329
kek
>>
use crossbows and FAKs

there's your meta
>>
so did the breaker and judge get nerfed or do i just not remember their old damage values?

SO GLAD THERE ISN'T A LIST, WOULD HATE TO HAVE PATCH NOTES GOYIM
>>
so much dlc i don't have, but all of it's heists i can't stand doing barring the point break shit
>>
>>156806864
U N L O C K E R
>>
>>156806849
they've been hovering around 180 for a while, right?
>>
>>156807006
>>156806849
oh, disregard. that's 180 or so with the shotgun damage skill.
>>
>>156806864
Use the DLC unlocker or get out.
>>
the new specials look like redneck kids in their idea of a cool edgy paintjob for a paintball game
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>>156801213
Hoxton Revenge loud and almost fwb loud, one guy survived to the garbage truck and died right after
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All the new loud difficulties are borked

Stealth is the only way to play now, and even then they fucked up and security guards can tank 10 silenced pistol headshots
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>>156807176
lol
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r8 my OD build

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACEfopr:eFgHjkLMNoR:tCefr:gJl:fHL:ibcdea:pM8::w48-26-11-1-8:s88-2-30-35-31:a7
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>>156807141
i don't have the damage skill and it's still at 180
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>Two days after Crimefest ends.
>Overkill releases limited use sprays you have to buy with microtransactions that also come with massive stat boosts.
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>>156807452
>Thanatos instead of bow or GL
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>>156807452
crossbow, nigger
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>>156807653
>bow

lol
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>>156807327
>Stealth is the only way to play now
Enemies may have stupid amounts of health, but stealth is and always has been the shitter's game

Don't be a fucking shitter
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>>156807452
6/10 would not play with
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>>156807709
>4000 of damage killing every unit on headshot

Better pick up over the Thanatos
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>>156807619
CSfags leave
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>>156801213
Mallcrasher :^)
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Sweating
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nobody cares animefag fuck off
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>>156808084
>flamethrower

weak
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>>156808327
literally just for running. cant kill shit with it
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>>156808364
3/4 of the weapons can't kill shit now, it's just as well
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what's the difference in stealth on one down?
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>>156808364
does it still "stun" bulldozers btw?
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>>156808473
guards take a lot more shots to put down
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>>156808581
So taser and a few rounds to the head is safe?
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>>156808528
bulldozers are completely immune to stun effects now you illiterate fuck
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>>156808649
wtf
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>>156808641
doesn't tasering them cause their weapon to alert other guards?
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>>156808758
Not if they haven't seen you.
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>>156808910
huh i've never actually tried buzzer in stealth
i assumed they'd randomly fire their guns like normal enemies do
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>>156809214
Yeah, it's a very risky weapon for stealth but for OD not much of a choice unless you bring in some heavy weapon.
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>>156809214
I do, don't try to use the buzzer or the knuckles, if they get alerted you better make them cuff themselves instead of trying to kill him with melee, that way he is going to alert everyone by shooting

Otherwise, it instakills if he isn't alerted
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the new cops are so fucking powerful and so easy to dominate. Shoot them once with any weapon and press F for instant domination. Joker 2 and just let them destroy everything. This is the key for OD.
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>>156808581
gonna assume there are even more shits patrolling on maps like framing frame or shadow raid/murky station?
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Are Dozers thicc?
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>>156809354
Just use the bow. It one headshot killed the SR DW guards, these guys aren't even as tanky as they are.
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>>156809573
>sprint for extended periods while wearing an EOD suit covered in extra armor plating and an LMG
there's nothing but muscle under those suits
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>>156809573
yes
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>>156809750
Nah, they've gotta be lumberjack mode. Functional muscle all around, built like a rectangle rather than a triangle, and a small layer of fat over it.
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>people playing OD at level 75 and lower

brave shitters
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>>156809941
Everyone is brave enough with the new damage values
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did deathwish cop health get fucked with too?
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>>156810301
tan and shields seem tankier but i'm not feeling any difference for the others while using the breaker
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The update breaks most mods, right? It's been a good while since I've touched PD2.
>>
I can't believe that Mayhem which is supposed to be between OVK and DW is more bulletsponge than fucking DW unless Ashley will come in and say "Yeah, it's intentional". Are they retarded or what?
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>>156811296
It has GOT to be a bug.
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>NGBTDW user is most downed and has least kills
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>>156811282
My mods are working fine for me. Unless you mean goonmod, just force updates
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>>156811296
see >>156799486
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>>156734796
Okay so let me get this straight
>OVK releases two new difficulties
>One which is a reskinned DW
>And the other that turns everything Dozer-tier
>Then proceeded to beef the shit out of EVERY enemy health level past OK
>And made all Dozers, regardless of difficulty, unstaggerable
>And nerfed multiple stagger-based weapons to shit
>Then buffed the weapons you'd only get from one of the shittiest DLC packs to retarded levels
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>>156791915
I figured this out. It's The Take 2016 playing instead of a part of Driveshaft, before the anticipation phase.

Panic Room Confirmed, get hype lads.
>>
The health values and headshot multipliers of many enemies have been changed. As a result leaving them tankier, if people are generally unhappy with this it will most likely be changed.
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>>156811683
>15 minutes
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>>156811683
twitch tv/starbreeze/v/93518599

1:39:58
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>>156811683
No no no no no this is not how you do PR
A lot of people are convinced this is a bug
Just claim it was a bug
Sudden 3x HP between Overkill and Mayhem? How can that be anything but a bug
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>>156811683
One Down and Death Wish feel fine for what they're supposed to be. If I were so bold as to make a suggestion, bring Mayhem unit health down. Right now, Mayhem and Death Wish feel almost identical, not the in-between it seeks to be.
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>>156811683
NOW YOU SHITTERS WILL FINALLY REALIZE THAT SPECIALIZED KILLING ACED IS THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

LAUGHING SO HARD RN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW
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>>156811683

http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/350544200755102296/?tscn=1475877038
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>>156811683
>Lower ammo sustainability of all weapon
>Make enemies tankier

These changes do not go hand in hand breh
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>>156812049
>Well babies, you suck, deal with it or play on a difficulty that accomplishes your level, that's all there is to say about this.
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>>156808649
feedback still affects them retard
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Was enemy melee buffed? I got instadown with one hit
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>>156812139
>>156811683
>Headshot multipliers higher with lower ammo sustainability

Holy shit

LMGs with Body Expertise might actually fucking meme on current cops, and they're also hilariously ammo efficient even with the last few nerfs to ammo pickup
>>
>new difficulties are nothing but inflated stat garbage
>again

Goodbye Payday 2
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>>156813163
New enemy type soon.
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How can it even be possible to be so shit at trying to balance ANYTHING
The melee rebalance
This mayhem HP multiplier
How the fuck can a living, functioning human being even come up with these values, much less write them all down and at no point think twice about them, then ACTUALLY have these values pass through whatever minute quality control there is at Starbreeze?
I genuinely don't understand it
How is this even possible?
You don't even need to play the game, you just need to look at an excel spreadsheet to realize the values for melees are retarded or the massive HP spike in mayhem.
Show those numbers to anyone, don't even tell them what they are, they'd notice, right?
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>>156813209
another turret confirmed
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>>156811816

Haha yeh i saw, it made me laugh.
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>>156813332
it's a medic tho
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>mfw reading these Mayhem rage posts while I'm breezing through One Down
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>2 shots to kill a sniper
>5-6 headshots to kill a tazer
>4-5 headshots to kill a cloaker
>2 headshots to kill regular cops
>Dozers

RIP Bronco. You will be missed on One Down.
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>>156813426
a medical turret then
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>>156813652
I'm using the Bronco on OD With crits
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>>156813467
it's actually pretty easy if you have a powerhouse weapon like the crossbow that kills stuff in one hit

then it just feels like boiling point where everything's a glass cannon
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explosive tip xbow or HE judge?
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>>156813732
>crossbow
>from the Gayge melee pack
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>>156813725
I tried boosting the damage to 200+ but it still didn't fix the breakpoints. Even tried high value target but it's useless since it doesn't affect regular cops.
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>>156813927
4000 damage and reclaimable ammo

come at me fag
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>>156813826
HE judge is taking 3 shots to kill a shield on DW with the overkill buff. gonna try with the other shotgun damage talent to see if that changes it or not. seems like you're better off having a dedicated sniper in the party once again though like the old days.
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>>156813732
What? Do boiling point enemies have different health or something
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i havent played this game for about a year

is anarchist deck worth it? i loved grinder but it got nerfed, and i'm wondering if anarchist can rekindle my love for that kind of build
>>
overkill literally said they wanted to remove all random chance events so all runs of a heist played out the same
wtf?
>>
>>156814916
it's good with bullseye aced, frenzy aced and berserker aced. DLC unlocker doesn't mark you for perk decks btw
>>
>cloaker comes out
>stun him with buzzer
>fbi spawns next to cloaker and I headshot him
>after that I spend 7 shots into the cloakers head
>cloaker survives and kicks me

I use the loco and the overkill was active, holy fucking shit shotguns feel so useless now.
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>>156815083
Forgot to add it was DW
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>>156815083
>>156815225
Loco is still great on DW. It's useless on One Down
>>
there's no reason to not have a grenade launcher as either primary or secondary now
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGuxTs9h3a0 the take 2016
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>>156815050
i know, i used a selective dlc unlocker
i'd have to get rid of my ICTV so i can use frenzy or bullseye, is it worth it? which armor is best for anarchist?
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>>156815626
Yeah piglet kicks ass now. It was already great
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>>156815626
>Heavy crossbow with China Puff
It just works

>>156815691
Reload still a shit
>>
death wish doesn't feel too bad, OD is cancerous as shit though
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>>156815663
ICTV or LBV nothing else. If you choose LBV make sure you get the right skills and you can get 270 armor. What are you like level 70 why can't you get all of them
>>
>No lasers on Murky while on OD
Anyone else get that or was random?
>>
How the fuck GHOST RIDERS achievement works now
>>
>>156815691
>piglet
Leave it to /pdg/ to consistently pick the worse weapon out of any class every time.
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>>156815994
"worst grenade launcher" is still amazing tho
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>>156815994
It's literally a direct upgrade over the other grenade launchers you gay retard
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how awful this will be?
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>>156815994
gl40 for concealment, china puff if you want gl as secondary and piglet if you want as primary we already went over this you shitter if you brought gl40 while using ICTV you're just handicapping yourself

>inb4 4 minute reload
you will never have to fire all 6 shots at once
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>>156815658
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>>156775439
>it's an intermediate difficulty
FUCK
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>>156815815
How do you get 270 armor with LBV?
>>
Are silenced weapons now a MUST?
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>>156816785
Not him but with Frenzy, Iron man basic, and die hard aced I think
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>>156816957
frenzy doesn't add to armor
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>>156815994
hurts my brain how can you possibly be this stupid
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>>156816206
Transported ACED is shit, take Rifleman basic
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>found old DW comfy
>it's literally not there anymore
>new difficulties go straight from old Overkill to "literally old DW but everything has 3x the HP"
I can't even be comfy in this game anymore.
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>>156817469
I know, it's just a glitch, I think. I've built the profile on the game and copied it from payday 2 stats site.
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>male FBI agents have 240 health
>female FBI agents have 40
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>>156816206
what is this site? i cant find it
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>>156818373
here http://pd2stats.com/
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green dozers spawn on DW now

gureato jobbu
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>>156815658
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>I SWEAR YOU'LL LIKE IT GUYS
this is not the last time you let me down, trashley
want to hear the best bit? there's a strawpoll embedded at the top of the update site
all the steam community retards voted immediately as soon as they saw the one-page splash and didn't even test anything
https://www.strawpoll.me/11380879
of course none of them would ever change their votes now
overkill can just point at the strawpoll and say "see, everyone loved the new difficulty!"
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>>156815658
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7siV4ffVr74
>Doctor no longer in the house
Oh, Jacket.
I wanted Heat Street, not Panic Room.
>>
>>156818373
http://pd2weapons.com/
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>>156819490
I hope this means he's getting updated lines
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>>156815658
It's shit.
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>>156819839
Kind of makes me wonder what they're going to do for Wolf and the new enemy. Try to use one of his "I need healing" lines, or just get someone who sounds like him, or what.
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>>156816206
>silent meme
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>>156815824
see
>>156796696
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>>156819954
Makes me wonder how long it will take to update Rust's and Jimmy's lines.
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>>156819954
I guess maybe he could just yell out "medic" and when he kills one they could use his shield lines by saying "medic fucking out"
I'm really wondering how they'll handle it too
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>>156820064
that's from an h-game isn't it
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>>156820064
>silent meme
>everything is so autistically scaled now you need every point of damage possible
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>>156820064
tacticool silenced deagle > bronco desu
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>>156815725

>heavy

Light reloads way faster, kills every regular cop in one bodyshot, and every special in one headshot, including dozers with the faceplate removed

>mfw crossbow joker is the new meta
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>>156820602
Delete this
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>>156820157
rust probably has them recorded already, i'm sure they knew they were adding this enemy
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>>156819903
its a tune m8
>>
>>156818019

- Take all the Joker skills
- Convert two regular cops / security guards at the start of heist
- Sit back while they tank the whole assault wave and massacre super-elites with their 9mms
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>>156820898
But I don't find that comfy.
I want to be tricky with my Mosconi.
>>
>just got the Very Hard skull from doing a heist I regularly do on the difficulty I regularly do it on
I'm pretty sure I didn't earn this because I don't remember ever playing Goat Sim on Very Hard.
No bully, I didn't have it because there are heists I hate and just never play.
>>
>>156821196
>hate playing goat sim
no no, that's entirely normal
>>
>>156821196
Doing something in a higher dificulty also counts for the lower ones
>>
>>156821328
Yeah, but I'm looking through my list, and so far I've never played these on Very Hard or above
>Car Shop
>Diamond Store
>Go Bank
>Alesso
>Transport: Crossroads
So I don't know why I got the mask.
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>>156820735
>i'm sure they knew they were adding this enemy
ye of too much faith.
>>
>be me with the achievement for all DW heists
>log in for the first time after the update
>get all the sub-DW achievements as expected
>play a couple of heists for the first time on OD
>complete OD Hotline Miami
>get the achievement for all Mayhem heists completed

???
>>
the cops feel more braindead than usual, maybe that relates to why they take so much more punishment
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>>156821010
i'm still running shotguns on DW and not having any issues
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>>156821604
Anon, I don't care what you can beat or not.
I only care about what I find comfy, and my comfy was ripped out for no reason.
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>>156821501
>be me
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>>156821501
mayhem is below deathwish
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>>156821691
i don't get what you're finding so different about it though. it's identical to me minus tans and shields, which i had to take the damage talent for shotguns to go back to normal. i haven't changed anything else and still play it in the same way.
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>>156821980
>i don't get what you're finding so different about it
I need to reload my Mosconi multiple times in order to kill a cloaker or taser. Obviously that means I get ckloackcer'd.
I don't find that comfy at all.
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>>156821604
>running
>>
where are the patch notes for difficulty rebalancing
>>
>>156822074
Didn't you hear? The new meta is
>heavy crossbow
>pistol crossbow
>all conversion-related abilities
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>>156822236
I don't like that.
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>>156822285
Well, I guess you'll have to wait until the next "rebalance", when the new meta becomes
>Amcar
>p90
>swagger stick
>all melee-related abilities
>>
>prior OD
>"DW is too ez"
>"we want an actual challenge"
>after OD
>"wow why cant i beat this on first try"
>"overkill sucks lel"

payday 2 community everyone
>>
>>156822236
you forgot nine lives
>>
Hey Ashley can you make another strawpoll with question like "Do you feel that new difficulties along with reworked DW are bulletsponge shit?"
>>
>>156822465
Yeah, good thing we're a hivemind and not different people with different opinions, Almir.
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>>156822465
Problem being that they ripped out DW and force you to play the new bulletsponge challenge (or put your OVK diaper on).
There is absolutely no excuse for Mayhem being the bulletsponge it is right now.
>>
>muh artificial difficulty

I mean, let's be honest.

Name one coop game that doesn't implement extra levels of difficulty by simply buffing the enemy's stats.
>>
>these new crossbow damage values
van helsing weapon pack when
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>>156822465
Go on tell me how how it's right that crossbows and bows do more damage than the thanatos makes sense to you anon
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>>156822819
Payday, yesterday
>>
>>156822882

Some "people" on the Steam forums are ACTUALLY arguing that it's fine because the Thanatos has sights and is hitscan while the bows have no sights and a projectile
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>>156823005
wasn't that one of the devs saying so
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>>156823184
It's certainly stupid enough for one of those stooges to say.
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>>156822893
>deathwish
>>
>>156823262
>shoot tan with bronco
>dies
fukn ez
>>
>>156811683
>>156812049
Just dump the codes and shut the fuck up.
>>
>>156823385
wow first good post you have ever made
>>
>>156823385
how bout I dumb your cock, bitch
>>
>>156823385
wow first good post you have ever made
>>
>>156823385
wow first good post you have ever made
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>>156811559
you forgot sprinting dozers
>>
ONE
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>>156824776
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
>>
So is Frenzy/Berserker necessary for a light crossbow? I one-shot a taser when I shot him in the head with frenzeker but I'm not sure if it's necessary
>>
Why are people going in OD without inspire aced and no doctors bag. They're going full damage with 2 ammo bags and then they die immediately.
Their weapons of choice are GL or Piglet with Bazooka. What the actual fuck?
>>
>>156826878
>Why are people going in OD without inspire aced and no doctors bag
...because you only can get downed once so obviously people are going to bring skills that are useful for not getting downed
>>
I figured I'd try Mayhem on something short and sweet like Mallcrasher to get a feel for it by myself with A. I. while running Raven/China Puff (because shottie skills).

I got downed to a basic, green Dozer after being down several times prior yet I didn't have any of my A. I. buddies to save me this time. Even after I blasted his faceplate off he just kept coming at me, bro. Like he literally gave no fucks.

Dozers are a frighten.
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>>156827508
>tfw dozers are a threat now
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>One Down difficulty means One Down Safe House Nightmare in a few weeks

I want this update repealed.
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>>156827508
>running
kill yourself
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa58FSSa7XI
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>>156827746
>>
>>156822465
>>156822819
>>156821980
It has ALWAYS been a silent minority of NEETs with +1337 hours the ones asking for "moar difficulty".
Fuck you.
>>
>>156827508
yea, dozers are right where they should be this update

they were legit scary in the first game, and now it is again

the only problem though is the dozer spawn spam
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>>156827746
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>>156827410
But that is wrong, you can get downed twice since its obligatory to have nine lives aced.
>>
HOW MANY OD ACHIEVEMENTS YOU GOT ALREADY?

>The 4 "Bank: something" variants
>Ukrainian / Jewelry store
>Art Gallery
>Diamond store
>Nightclub
>4 stores
>>
>>156828729
Art Gallery
Bank Cash
Jewelry Store
Ukrainian Job
Undercover
The Diamond
Cookoff
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>>156828729
>He actually plays PD2
Absolutely disgusting.
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>Didnt played for months
>Come back
>Try the midway difficulty
>Fuck fest of shield and tazers
Okay what the fuck is this. I also came when anarchist and frenzy was a thing, is still is or is there something better.
>>
is triple silenced deag still good
>>
>>156828987
Mayhem is fucked up too, hope they fix it tomorrow
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guys i heard everything is fixed now
have shitter assholes been ravaged
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>>156828987
china puff is your friend
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>>156828729
I didn't do too much
>Jew store
>Ukrainian
>Murky
>Shadow raid
Might try Undercover later
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7siV4ffVr74
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>>156829662
undercover is one of the easiest heists in the game
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>>156830037
Yes and?
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Anyone else having an issue with cops shooting much less on Mayhem? The difficulty is practically perfect for pub games 80% of the time, but then you get a few moments where you can just stand still and get a bunch of cops to cuff themselves. Even without tase damage, I'm suddenly seeing maps filled with cuffs cops now on what's supposed to be the second hardest difficulty.
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>>156830105
OD > DW > Mayhem
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Judge is dead.
Bronco is dead.
MAC-10 is dead.
Uzi is double dead.

HE pistol crossbow is the new meta and it is downright fucking disgusting.
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>>156830358
Oh yeah and I guess non-HE pistol crossbow is the new sthelf meta
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>/pdg/ trying to act like an authority on meta when it's polluted with people that act like the piglet is viable under any circumstances and that HE shotguns can out preform the China-lake or GL-40.
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>>156830772
>HE shotguns can out preform the China-lake or GL-40
Not anymore obviously
What's YOUR theory of the secondary meta then, Mr. Authority?
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>>156830772
piglet was viable even before the 4x damage boost stop being a shitter
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>>156830105
Cops shoot less because there are more enemies and all of the ai is ran on one cpu core which makes it bottleneck. The hosts you're joining likely have very low framerates. You can try hosting your own game and playing around with the slider in this mod if it still works in the new update. Make sure to lower it considerably below the default value.
http://lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=17213
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So whats the primary you are supposed to use, because I'm feeling I'm shooting rubber bullets.
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>>156830105
honestly, I feel like mayhem is fine, I don't know what the fuss is all about

It's the perfect blend of overkill and deathwish.
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>>156831098
dw and below: anything
od: kill yourself
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>>156831098
Light Crossbow
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>>156831098
light xbow
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>>156831119
>It's the perfect blend of overkill and deathwish.
It's literally old DW but with doubled or more HP
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>>156831291
well in that case, it's what deathwish should've been
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>>156831256
>>156831283
>Cross bow is meta
Mother of fucking god, and I was joking with a friend when the dlc was released about the crossbows being meta.
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>>156831291
Here's a helpful graph to help you understand
>>156831386
That's cool and all but I want the option to play old DW and I would also like the option to play the blend of OVK and old DW that they advertised
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>>156831514
1500 damage per shot now, kinda hard to ignore
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>>156831570
Well, I was basing that statement on the assumption that deathwish was actually as hard as pubbies say it is.
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>join a lobby
>NBGTO shit floods the chat
>leave
Guess I should just stick to hosting my own game
and by that I mean playing solo with bots
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>>156832310
and by that I mean playing solo with Better Bots set to max settings
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>these deathwish changes
oh son of a cunt, now i have to use the loco instead of the street sweeper.
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>>156832430
How else would it be done :^)
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how out of date is the ammo pickup spreadsheet
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>>156833005
it was up to date in 2014
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>>156832578
no, you don't have to do anything other than git gud
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since the health numbers went full retard, how about increase the damage on headshots. It feels retarded being like the old day only making 1 or 2 weapons useful and the rest going to shit too much.
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>custom HUD shitters

Why do you do it. Only exception is PDTH HUD
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>2016
>using haxhud
>ISHYGDDT
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>>156833932
?
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>>156834094
HaxHud literally does not exist anymore get with the times
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Seven difficulties is way too many, why didn't they just make very hard the new Overkill? Not a single person plays Very Hard regularly. Jesus Christ.
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>>156834316
>Not a single person plays Very Hard regularly
the people that make this game struggle in hard
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Does anyone wanna do OD car shop?
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>>156835064
dont really wanna play but just wondering, how long is the timer after you set the alarm off on OD?
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pocohud or bust
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>>156835192
Meth batch complete.
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Press F for the safehouse
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>>156837004
e
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Fuck me, I manged to complete Biker and Beneath the mountain on OD, we even managed to get to the end of Birth of Sky but motherfucking thermal paste bug fucked us over and everyone left becuase it was late. Had some actual fun while doing this.
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>>156837194
OD is easy if you use the right loadouts

some fellas and me completed most of the "oh shit" hard loud heists just with everyone running a joker and a china puff
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does nine lives work in OD? still updating.
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>>156837391
yeah joker, and a grenade launcher will fuck shit up

if you really need extra help take a light crossbow
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>>156837467
Yes it does, it's a must for OD.
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>>156837194
Mind sharing your build?
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fucking hell there's still 9 more days to this garbage
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whys it so easy to dominate cops
feels like they buffed it again
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>>156838103
It was really fucking easy on OD but not so much on mayhem earlier
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>>156838103
you need some bulletsponges on OD to convert. you just can't absorb it all alone.
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>>156837635
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACEfjklNR:eFGhIjkLNR:gijlOqr:fL:::

I've seen a people with swan song and haveing 2 converts also. You can switch to that and remove the ammo bag that I have or smth. I use both deployables because I played with pubs and had to switch quite a few times.
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>>156838387
Oh I forgot to add Throwing Axes are the best, they can 1 shot tazers if you headshot them. So basiclly buzzer them and kill them with the axe.
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>>156838518
javelin for tree log hitbox
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>>156838518
Thanks my friend. What about the perk deck?
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>>156838387
I assume since you got Ironman aced you're running ICTV. What perk deck and weapons are you using?
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>>156838718
I had Anarchist, most of us were using it. I've seen some people say Armorer is good for the 2 sec invincibility but meh idk.
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>>156838812
Anarchist with Falcon and Chinapuff.
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>>156838103
they botched the code for it

basically, they need to be hurt at least once before you can dominate, otherwise you get a 0% chance.
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>>156838816
>>156838979
>Anarchist
>no frenzy
It is still good? Looks like a solid build.
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>>156839058
That sounds 100% intended to me
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>>156830358
HE Judge is old and busted

china puff and AP loco is the new hotness
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>>156839107
>AP
what the fuck?
did they buff AP damage or have you gone mad?
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what the fuck is china puff?
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>>156839284
Slang for pistol crossbow (china weebshit) with HE bolts (puff)
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>>156839284
a type of blunt that originated in china
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>>156839092
I don't think theres enough room for frenzy. I'd rather take more converted cops or swan song.
None of us used frenzy, I've survived countless of times getting shot to a tiny bit of health left so I guess I wouldn't really recommend it.
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>>156839379
Ah I see. I might use sociopath or maybe infiltrator then.
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>>156839284
A pump action 40mm grenade launcher with a 3 round tubular magazine based on the real life China Lake.
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>>156811683
I want a fucking flood of non-tanky enemies. Drown me in bodies. I want them to have more men than I have bullets.
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>>156813732
Boiling Point has different health values?
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>>156838979
What mods for the Falcon?
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>>156820157
>>156820735
Ron Perlman is a bro ass voice actor. I'm sure he is genuinely a joy to work with compared to some of the pricks in the industry.
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>>156840939
I mean on the fact that stuff dies in one hit
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>>156839107
Why is Judge bad now? What makes the China Puff so much better?
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>javelins/axes buffed from 1100 damage to 7500

what the fuck
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I have some questions about the new difficulties because I usually only play OVK solo.
I tried a H&T Mayhem, seemed like old DW with even stupider health values, is that the case?
How does new DW compare to old DW/Mayhem?
As well as being innately fucking stupid, how artificially difficult is One Down? Keep in mind that PD:TH never had a one down aspect to it.
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>>156843405
Whats the point of guns nows, Javelins, Crossbows and grenade launchers is all you need, fuck guns. It felt so retarded 1 shoting enemies without any issue trowing javelins.
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>>156843456
imagine 1st day boiling point damage with stupid hp, 4 running dozers at the same time.
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http://pd2weapons.com/l/0d93f7c0bfd09be003aee9a4bc26f90b

r8 but pls no bully
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>finally had time to play one down
Holy shit they're not pulling any punches
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>>156843405
>you can just javelin headless dozers to death easily
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>>156821476
I got Hard, Very Hard and Overkill masks as well even though I have never touched some of the newer heists.
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>>156844781
brilliant
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>>156844941
>>156844781
Theory: They removed the pro jobs, and those achievements maybe track by number of unique heists cleared on each difficulty, but they didn't update the number to account for those being removed
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>>156760712
these are basically the tees that one edgy fat kid in high school wore but as guns
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piCVVRndN5I
why does Bain sound like he's on the verge of breaking into tears in game?
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>>156845843
because they are taking the bags,
and hoxton burned the fucking old safehouse
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>>156845843
he knows this crimefest will be shit
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>>156845843
What do they use to change his voice?
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I'm mad. But above all I'm confused.
How the fuck do not realize removing old DW as a difficulty is a horrible idea?
I genuinely don't understand how does nobody at a multi-million dollar company say "wait, this is stupid and can be fixed instantly"
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>>156846243
Are you seriously asking how Overkill is incompetent now? It's 2016. They've literally been making the game worse and worse for 3 years now and you only just realized
>wow these guys are fucking idiots.
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>>156847000
No no no I realized a long time ago.
I just don't understand it.
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>>156847052
If you understood Overkill's thought process, you'd be as stupid as them. You should thank god you aren't.
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>>156846243
because old DW sucked ass

literally everyone was bitching about how easy it was
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>>156847215
>literally
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>>156847567
>proc
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>>156847215
dude >80% of the playerbase is steamcommunity mouthbreathers that struggled in overkill
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>>156847671
and remind me how many struggled on pdth 180+?
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>>156847968
overkill 145+?
well for starters they didn't remove overkill in order to add overkill 145+
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>>156848081
oh right 145+. Was a while ago I played the game.
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Did one down do literally anything to stealth
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>>156848461
if you get spotted they have a million health, which you can negate by throwing a 7500 damage throwing axe at them. and i THINK they can't be intimidated immediately on being detected anymore but i've only run one mission
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>>156848768
hit them once with any melee and then intimidate. I buzzed them on counterfeit and that worked
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>Dominate and convert 2 security guards with Joker and Partner in crime aced
>Not only they managed to kill a Z-Dozer by themselves but none of them even died

Holy shit, converted enemies are now completly broken
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do more bags = more exp?
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>>156848768
no, they just can't be intimidated at 100% health

just melee once and it should work
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This is a PR move.
Overkill intentionally creates bad publicity early into the event, then quickly fixes it. Rest of the event seems less bad by comparison.
There's a term for this PR stunt but I can't remember it for the life of me
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>>156850001
yes!
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>>156822819

Barring the bulletsponge bosses, Killing Floor 2 ups the difficulty by having new enemies, faster enemies, and new enemy behaviors/attacks. They've actually REDUCED the hp of a lot of zeds over development, opting for more skill based gameplay over mag-dumping borefests.

>tfw I'm only playing pd2 while I wait for full kf2 november release
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>>156850513
patty isnt even too bad, it's just hans who's bullshit
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>>156850220
Overkill aren't smart enough to do that. And this is not the first rebalance that has fucked up more than it's fixed.
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>>156847594

>run
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We'll be looking into and changing the tankiness issue! We've already started working on some changes.
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>>156854282
When can we expect a hotfix for Linux so we can actually *play* the game?
This same shit happened with U100, do you even test the update before releasing it?
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>>156854282
i hope od stays the same

also please show dick
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What's a good perk deck now? I only play Muscle because I have no idea what the new shit does (Maniac, Ex-pres, Anarch, etc.)
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>>156854584
on OD Rogue or armorer desu since everything else will be shot to pieces
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>>156843405
Which one's better, though? Do they arc differently or anything?
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>>156850220
It has nothing to do with PR and has everything to do with overkill not playing their own game, remember the last 'rebalance' when the only viable guns were the deagle variants?
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>>156854487

We're aware of the issue, i'm not a techie myself so i can't comment on it i'm afraid.

>>156854510
I THINK you'll most likely see the headshot multiplier increased for all levels.
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>>156854282
Post your codes for Sydney please.[/spoiler]
Also glad to hear the issues are being dealt with. Unrelated note, any plans to let us mute Bain? I love Simon but he gets really annoying on some heists. Especially Shadow Raid and Ukranian "ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THE TIARA?" Job.
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>>156855196
>asking for literal garbage
But why?
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>>156855196
What the fuck happened to my spoiler? I'm using 4chan X so that should have worked, I just ctrl+s'd.
>>156855276
Because I feel weird having her pirated. test
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>>156855152
That's unfortunate, I hope it's fixed today at least.
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>>156855368

We'll try to have something come out very quickly but no promises.
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a bunch of fucking cheaters
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>>156855617
i can't tell if you're joking or not.
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>>156855617
damn
you should invite them to autism awareness group, block and report
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>people sincerely believe they will get another classic heist with Panic Room for this event
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>>156856284
>tfw Heat Street never
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>>156843967
How is the loco dmg 170?
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>>156856309
>heat street with pd2's spawn rates and the silliness of OD
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>introduce a new difficulty to bridge the gap between Overkill and Deathwish
>it's harder than old Deathwish
Oh for fuck's sake.
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>>156856359
>dodge build
Sprint past everything
>hey you get moving
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dead thread
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>>156856357
zerk maybe
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the worst thing about panic room coming back is that "stay back bro" will be guaranteed gone
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>>156858356
It's been so long since I played it that I don't remember what that was. They patted you down or something, right?
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new heist?
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>>156859023
ur a new heist
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>>156858550
when you try to go upstairs 2 gangsters will block the way saying step back bro
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>>156859829
Your mom is a new heist.
Now make a bread already holy shit.
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Help autofire sound fix crashes the game
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>>156856284
So what the new heist is confirmed to be panic room? When the FUCK are they releasing no mercy, it's the best heist
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