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Never argue with forum retards edition

*****NEW TO THE GAME?*****
Tell us your server and get a referral code from a fellow /wowsg/ to get extra bonus credits/flags/XP and two free premium ships (one instantly, one after you research a T6 ship).

>Patch 5.12(LIVE)
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-notes-0512/

>British cruisers announcement (SOON™):
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/rule-britannia/

>Imperial Japanese Navy destroyer tech tree rework (WEEBS™):
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/new-jpn-dd/

RUMOR MILL (SUBS)
http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/96120-submarines-are-coming/

>Statistic tracker - Stalk your favorite wowsg:
http://warships.today
http://na.wows-numbers.com/

>Wanna learn how to play an even worse bote game?
http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

>In-game chat channel:
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully ranger
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel", password is "vidya"
SEA Channel: /vg/

>Ubermensch Clan:
NA: [HURTU]: http://na.wargaming.net/clans/wot/1000010943/

>Untermensch Clans:
NA: [KUMA]: http://na.wargaming.net/clans/1000021519
NA: [NTR]: http://na.wargaming.net/clans/1000007315/
EU: "no"

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>>156564283
>>156564283
>>156564283
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First for ded boats
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Scond for /wowsg/ liking their boatsluts pure and clean.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11369949
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>>156692024
So what.

It will mrerely serve to prove that the CAs need the healpot at t8 to be somewhat relevant.

These people are fucking retarded, WG should just allow people who didn't get previous ARP ships to get them later.
It's not like they give you some special bonus, let you grind faster or anything.

We still have weeks and whole months without anything special, even though they introduced a special system for challenges, missions and events.
That system just sits thee, empty, underscoring how completely fucking lazy teh WoWS community team is, and how muhc WG does not want to give players even one tiny bit of 'free' shit.

For bonus lulz, try posting this in the forums and watch the shills throw a shitfit while 'proving you wrong' with a shitton of non-arguments and trolling frm the ST fanboi squad.
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>>156692348
Destroyed but not defeated!
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>>156692024
the best I can find is suspected stats on that one blog site with *subject to change* right under the title
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>>156693058
Someone already posted video proofs
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>>156692695
>Chapayev with healpot
Oh god please no.
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What are some ideas that would be cool to add to the game?
-Little lifeboats when a ship goes down, maybe some extra xp for picking up survivors. Don't need to animate the crews if WG wants to keep everything non-human.
-Improved detonation mechanics that cause extensive damage, flying parts, etc. Maybe leave a smokescreen when the ship goes down.
-If a Japanese CV goes down, the player can send aircraft off on Kamikaze missions. If an American CV goes down, the player can transfer their remaining aircraft to another American CV on their team (if there is one.)
-National battles and victory songs.
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>>156693516
I say that it will end up as 'CLs get smoke, CAs get healpot'

It will of course only make things more cancerous, but that is normal.
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>>156693594
too complicated, might confuse new players((((((((((

And no, I'm not trolling, thta was literally the WG response to all those proposals in the alpha.

OK no. The part with smoke and better graphicss for a magazine detonation got a 'will implement later maybe'
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Roma Literally the QTest
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>>156693594
if you play me a little freedom ditty when i win i'll actually grind my burger ships
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>>156693970
Go away, shitty hotelposter knockoff
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>>156682316
>Herp don't take the C hull
>It just gives you AA in exchange for your torp tubes and gun placements!
>Struggle through without the C hull's range upgrade
Fuck you, wowsg

>>156684431
Pepsi is better than NO because MM is so much kinder to her.

>>156684545
>anglos
>CA
nyet

>>156686776
>Scharnhorst
>Dunkerque
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This is unironically more fun than WoWS for some reason

Despite being turn based
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>>156694109
USN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtx8MW84kFw

IJN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBk7tpEpqwU or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd6YpZ-C9y0

KM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq1C47U72hg or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvKAoiqlSkg
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Italian girls are _____.
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>>156695815
not related to a game about 20th century naval warfare.
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>>156695815
>orangina

mah nigga
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>>156695815
not white like pic related
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German girls are _____.
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who /terribleatgames/ here?
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at T3 jap cruiser right now

build into battleship or stay cruising and bruising?
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>>156695063
WoWs isn't fun in the first place. People just like looking at botes destroying other botes.
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>>156696075
See: >>156695883
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>>156696075
Muslim playthings?
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>>156696108
If you think you're gonna end up playing higher tiers more, go battleships.
Cruisers are a lot of fun, but usually doesn't feel very rewarding.
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>>156696403
will that huge battery make up for the loss of torpedoes?
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>>156696495
Very much so, Japanese BBs are very good at staying at range and sniping, if you want brawlers go German BBs (some even get Torpedoes, low range torpedoes, but they're still torpedoes).

That said, Japanese cruiser line is the most fun cruiser line in the game, so if you get bored just pick it up again.
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>>156696075

fikki fikki
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>>156696128
>People just like looking at botes destroying other botes.

Yeah and it just feels more fun in this game than WoWS for some reason
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>>156696075
Giant sluts. Not only do they like stern torps, but some of them even sell themself to other countries, only to get taste of those foreign seamen
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>>156695815
for gently receiving my guided bomb in their magazine.
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>>156697324
>it just feels more fun in this game than WoWS for some reason
no crushing credit grind
no MM trying to enforce 50% WR
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Any good CV drivers to div with?
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>>156697789
Server?
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>>156697896
North America
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>>156695954
I bought Atago a year ago and I have 7 of the ARP ships right now. I don't have a problem with Takao being technically free.

>>156697003
ARP Takao can't train IJN captains or earn Premium credits.
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>>156697696
Yeah true, its just pure naval combat

But WoWS has the better looking models though

But hell most of the ships here aren't even in the game yet cause Royal Navy
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>>156698039
I heard Snoozing_Mako is a good CV player. He even earned himself nickname Sniping Mako due to his excellent skills at seaking out and killing lone targets in a CV. ______:^)_______
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So apparently many of the quad Bofors and 3" mounts on board are trainable. Did these things have electric mounts, or am I just weak? Took me about 15-20 seconds to go through 90 degrees of rotation.

Also, apparently these mounts rotate 360 degrees. Pic related. I'm about to murder some petty officers or something.
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>>156698039
You can div with me, I am an average player though but I have most of the divs and I have a few unicum friends that can help out if needed.

Name is USSDONALDJTRUMP in-game.
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>>156698654
>Following the attack on Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941, the existing 1.1" (28 mm) quad mount and .50 caliber machine guns were determined to be inadequate against modern aircraft, and their replacement by 40 mm Bofors and 20 mm Oerlikon weapons was accelerated. The 40 mm quadruple mount was developed by essentially mounting two twin mounts side-by-side.[6] A major improvement was the addition of power operation to both twin and quadruple mounts.

Did it rotate through strictly 360° or could it make an arbitrary amount of rotations?
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I'm so demotivated to play. What do you do to keep you motivated playing this game?
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>>156698654
Combination of being weak and they were rotated electrically.
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>>156698654
I think the 40mm Bofors were just hand-cranked.
The 3in guns probably had a powered traverse, if it's similar to the mounts I've seen, there's a selector for manual/power modes as well as a handle and trigger for when the hand-cranks are not engaged. I believe elevation is still done by hand.
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>>156699116
Nothing. When I don't want to play, I don't play.
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>>156697696
is there even skill based matchmaking in this game? i was under the impression that there was no actual mmr/elo and nothing trending you towards 50%

other than pic related
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>>156698769
Thanks, i'll add you as back-up if I can't find anyone.
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>>156698052
can't equip camo either, so I think she'll actually be less stealthy than mogami by a little bit, right?
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>>156693626
apparently WG noticed invisifire is cancer and will remove smoke invisibility and shooting beyond detection range because of the bong CLs, so this is less broken that it sounds
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>>156699357
I saw somewhere a rumor that WG has a patent, where they show basic principles of how to balans))))(() mm so that it would stear you towards 50℅
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>>156699626
Source?
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>>156695815
irrelevant to WW2
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>>156699626
Proofs?
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>>156699720
dont have the links but it was a interview with one of the WG crew in a russian forum

so likely full of bullshit and backpedalling
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>>156695815
Libe when?
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>>156698654
Keep in mind that not only were they power operated, but they probably do not get the maintenance they did during active service. I bet the joints/bearings/etc. are at least a little rusty and could use oiling.
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>>156699357
There isn't. People who don't understand statistics will just associate win streaks with their own skill and loss streaks with rigged MM.
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>>156695815
[Spoiler]sluts
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>>156696108
I would continue with the CAs

Playing a BB without a knowledge of higher tiers can be very painful as BB are unforgiving
At least with CAs you can run if you get too far into the shit
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>>156699357
>is there even skill based matchmaking in this game?
Of course not.

The matchmaking is random, but the very design of it makes it 'enforce' 50% WR on everyone.

You can get up by playing meta ships, being good, diving up and combining those factors. Three good players in good ships can reach 70% WR.
But as soon as even one of these good players plays solo, or in a non-optimal ship, he will trend down immediately.

So, MM is not actively giving you shit teams. But you will end up in those shit teams anyway.
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>>156699692
That's in the WoT patents, and in WoT there are certain things that help shitty palyers.

Evey few games, their shots with autoaim are a bit more lucky, shots against them are a bit less lucky and randomly miss.

If you want to test it in WoT, make a new account, bot up to the KV-1 and start derping people with your 44% WR. It's unreal how those shots suddenly behave like homing missiles.
Try the same thing with a normal 58%+ WR acc, and you get to see how inaccurate the gun actually is.

Way back in 2013, we tested it with 5 accs. Small sample size, but the accuracy was noticeably high
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The 3" mount was much easier to turn by hand. 34s to go through 180 degrees and 14s to go from just beneath horizontal to 85 degrees or so.
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Is Atlantic Fleet worth the $10?
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Beehive ammo when?
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>>156702892
Players, confuse etc.
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>>156702892
WG said never, because it was extremely ineffective.
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>>156702892
type 3 was also shit
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>>156703027
But paper ships that were never made or tested are?
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>>156703294
You ask to many questions, comrade
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>>156702892
W23 shell when?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W19_(nuclear_artillery_shell)#W23
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>>156702892
When we get the ability to have our main gun turrets trained at different targets.

>confus))))))))))))))))
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New video from WG about bad advice. Pretty simple but useful lesson, but what caught my eye was the 36 second mark.
That's the Hood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtY4ETYmKyM
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>>156703378
Premium ammo you have to spend doubloons or credits on)))))))
Be a good goy
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>>156703585
Pls no(((((((
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>>156702575
Are they just single mounts?
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>>156703471
I wish there was a button I could hit to have my turrets go to the default positions. In a battleship or in the Mogami it can be a gamble where to keep the guns pointed. I'd much rather sail around with the turret pointing forward/backwards and then have to train them 90 degrees instead of 180.
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>>156703734
I would gladly drop 500 gold to put one on a Nagato or Prinz Eugen.
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>>156703818
confucius)))))))))
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I see WG is keeping abreast of the latest shitposting memes.

>>156703736
The 3" are just single mounts, yes.
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>>156703937
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>>156703818
I wish there was something like ctrl+consumable that allows you to autouse it immediately after cooldown ends.
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>>156703909
Was meant for
>>156703378
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>>156703818
Either that or a command which sends obscured turrets to the opposite end of their traverse.
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>>156703909
>>156704932
Prinz is immune, Nagamon just takes some flooding damage.
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>>156704980
too much confusings, must think of new players))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>156705531
>all ships get a radiation blast resistance
>nagamon has 30%
>hindenburg has like 20%
>printz has a astonishing 50% rating
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>>156704084
That's pretty neat they let you fuck around with them.
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Hotel: Literally, the QTest.
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>Arpegio of Blue steel now with atagoy glowpanties in EU
>soon on other servers
>old ARP ships will reappear until december
>who knows maybe we will see ARP yamato or lexington somehow
>H A I F U R I soon, with shit like a 100mm kagero on tier 5~6
>HMS hood made a cameo on a tutorial video
>ranked is still anneurism inducing
>halloween shenanigans coming soon ish i guess maybe who knows
>After that KanColle might need to compete with its own chink clone for a collab
are you ready to get a waifu in WoWS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHsyY3uEdkk
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Can someone please explain to me what the point of posting on the WoWS forums are again?

I go to post that the Leningrad was dropped on the EU server and everyone who responded is just some bitter nasty asshole.

Are game forums just hugboxes for retards?
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>>156708249
none.

yes.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>156708249
ask Greg. He loves to shitpost on the forums. I don't think I have seen a single thread or topic hes started that didnt get a ton of replies.

Forum posters are like the little obedient yorkies. They yap at their masters for treats and the privilege of being told they are good little goys.

Reddit posters are usually the same but at least they dont have as big of a hugbox mentality that the forums do. Still a bunch of dicksucking and cringe going on (Look at Arlios).

Finally you found your way to /wowsg/. You won't find too many dicksuckers of Wargaming here. Most here honestly would argue they hate this fucking game but cant seem to quit. Its more of an addiction at this point. They recognize the shitty state of the game yet continue to play despite it all. But besides that the majority of the players in this general are 90% better than any of the forum fags or redditor players.
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>>156708209
ARP ships that need to be implemented:
Atago
Bismark
Hyuuga
Ise
Lexington
Maya
Musashi
Nagato
Repulse
Vampire
Yamato
Yukikaze
Zuikaku
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>>156708209
Look, i'm not asking for much

just give a picture of Kongou for the captain and a "Shit!" when she gets citadeled.
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>>156709156
FOG_Somali_Pirate when?
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>>156708968
I unironically and willingly enjoy the game, honestly.
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>deleted 30s into the game by a baBBY

Can we just fucking remove citadels already holy fucking shit.
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>>156710197

Nobody willingly enjoys WG games.

If you had any sort of pride at least.
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>>156710312
I enjoy enjoying things, even WG games.
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dank
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>>156710464
you are a dying breed
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>>156708968
Greg's pretty fucking stupid too, probably thanks to his alzheimers and dementia. Still better than sucking endless WG cock like the STs and alpha testers though.

>Still a bunch of dicksucking and cringe going on (Look at Arlios).

Arlios isn't even that bad compared to the rest of them. It's not that he isn't cringey, it's just that the rest of them are so much fucking worse.

>Most here honestly would argue they hate this fucking game but cant seem to quit.

Isn't this every general?

You're pretty much spot on though.

How is it that people from this shithole of a site always end up being among the better of the players in whatever game they're playing? Is it just because anyone who can't handle criticism is driven off to hugboxes like reddit and the forums, where they're told they're just fine as they are and thus never see the need to improve?

Am I just thinking too deeply into this?
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>>156710076
>Fog_TurtleShip_YiSunShin
>Fog_Canoe_Skarloey
>Fog_Trireme_Gyptos
>Fog_Rowboat_GeorgeWBush
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>Iowa meme
What the fuck?
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>>156711739
>More shameless NEETs playing more vidya than they should
>Shitters don't have their names automatically revealed
and probably a bit of what you mentioned
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CE+New rudder shift module. How viable it is for Baltilol?
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>>156713054
Might be better to do Prop + New Rudder and WASD hack harder than you've ever WASD hacked before.
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>>156714049
Er wait, I read CE and thought of the concealment equipment, but obviously thats not possible.

She just might be viable. Seems to work for New Orleans.
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>>156714148
CE + 2rudder shifts, it seem he would have 11km (10.8 if you take camo) concealment and 3.78s rudder shift.
CE + only top rudder shift = 4.68 rudder shift.

This sounds good. I wonder how hard would relity hit
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>>156715078
sorry for all the bad grammar.
4.68s rudder shift. That's faster than pre "nerf" Khaba, while also having better turning circle.
Oh wait I have citadel and my guns aren't as balansed.

And there is reality hitting my head with big and heavy object.
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Are the German cruisers still as good as the old pastebin made them sound?
They seem to be lacking in armor and speed
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>>156695063
I'll give you a hint as to why that game is good
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>>156715907
I don't get it.
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>>156715976
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>>156715805
Ask yourself. Can line whose "speciality" is suppose to be strong AP rounds, but in reality has worst T10 AP be good?
Zao has heavy shells + good speed.
Des Moines has good autobounce angles, heavy shells pew pew guns and heavenly Krupp
Moskva is... well Moskwa i.e. balansed as fuck with thier 220mm railguns (I am pretty sure according to forum, starting from mid range they have beter pen than Sharnhorst)
And Hindenburg has... what exctly? It's shells are light as fuck (loose energy quicker) they don't have good Krupp, and their autobounce angles are standard.
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>>156716098

Man the Izumo was an ugly ship IRL
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>>156715805
USSR>Japan>Memes>USA>USSR Destroyers>US Destroyers>German "cruisers"
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>>156716324
Oh wait. They have a whole 10% more damage than Zao, while having a lot worse balistic, due to shels being lighter. And a whole 16% than Des Moines, that can simply outgun and outmanuver it, since KM traditionally has manuverability of battleship.
P.S. Right now you can at least do Roon into secondaries for maximum memes. Hindenburg in AA can also be viable, since a lot of CV just forget how good German AA is. But there is a little problem with ammount of CV in battles.
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>>156716324
The best part is that Zao's AP is actually heavier than Des Moines'. However the Des Moines' AP has fucking 2919 krupp to Zao's 2468.

Also for some reason Des Moines AP has the lowest alpha. Because fuck you.
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>>156717129
Uh, anon the Izumo was never built.

That's a picture of HMS Rodney.
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>>156717129
u r 1 ch33ky little sh1t
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>>156717417
>Izumo was never built.
Thank god.
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>>156715907
>>156716098
I hear ya anon
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>>156716324
Fine but what about the mid tiers?
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>>156717329
But hey HBurg has high alpha.
What's even the point of high alpha if your shells bounce off everything???!
You want high alha shells? Get Moscow. It's basically how KM line should have ended. With a massive fuck you AP railguns, not guns from T8. /rant.
P.S. I am basically kinda just sad.
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>>156717843
T5 is fun
T6 is T5 with worse MM
T7 has WW1 AP shells (or have WG fixed it and gave it shells usable past 10km) but HE shells close in performance to USN shells, so gameplay is closer to standard cruiser. Sit back and let world burn. But hey you get 30mm of slopped citdel armor.
T8 It's okay I guess.
T9 Is considered the high point of line. For maximum memes, or if you simly want to laugh at enemy DD you can do a secondary memes, it has a lot of secondary guns. AA guns are also pretty powerful, and a lot CV seem to forget that.
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>Win 3 games in a row, getting close to rank 12
>Lose the next 6 because of German BBs that sit back and snipe, turn tail and run away, or sit still in smoke screens and get torped
WHY DO GERMAN BATTLESHIPS ATTRACT THE BIGGEST FUCKING BRAINDEAD COWARDS?!
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>>156719987
Maybe after 2 losses in a row you should take a small break from ranked?
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>>156719987
90% of the BBs population is braindead
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There's something erie about watching ships sink in Atlantic Fleet

The metallic groans and wails of the ship and being able to look underwater and see the bottomless depth that awaits the ship is creepy.
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>I play Fubuki because it has 5.5 km stealth versus Benson's 5.8 km, I believe I contribute more than you do so hush it!
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>>156721063
Is this now world of warships and Atlantic Fleet general?
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>You will never creampie a shipgirl backdoor
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>>156721063
Ships sinking are eerie in general. Especially if it's from a sub's torpedo and there's little other battle noise. With something like a plane crash, the noise is loud but goes away quickly.

A ship going down is prolonged. Groaning metal, popping rivets, buckling bulkheads, explosions, etc. Then there's the small fields of debris that float back up and linger.
It sounds like something dying.
http://www.uboataces.com/ref-ship-sounds.shtml
Pick "Sound of Ship Sinking with Ground Impact"

Perhaps the worst, particularly when it comes to submarines, is to be listening on sonar/hydrophones and hear them reach crush depth.
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>>156721187
if he is activelly spoting then yes he contribute more than benson
if he is hiding then no is the same than a benson
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>>156722231
>Fubuki spots Benson
>1 second later
>Benson spots Fubuki
>Benson wins

Wow, he spotted him a whole (1) second earlier.

Hmm.. makes me think
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>>156715587
Balti works with CE (5 pt skill) faster accel module and rudder mod 2.

Reasonably invisible, can dodge, and if you use your superfast rudder, good accel and good turnign circle to bow on between shots, you will dodge most and bounce a good bit of the rest.

This of course fails in the face of constant HE spam and Hotel guns.
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>>156708931
So the bf109 E is the german T7 fighter and the 109G is the T8, what could possibly be at T9 and T10?

And how would the rest of the german cv tree look like, plane wise?
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>>156708931
>teutonic "i only play cruisers lol" tanker
guy's a massive autist tbqh. stay away from him
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>>156723156
>calling someone an autist
>while posting animu

baka desu senpai
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>>156722890
>what could possibly be at T9 and T10?
Later G variants or K variants.
I don't have T9/T10 German ships though so these are only guesses.
>And how would the rest of the german cv tree look like, plane wise?
109T and Ju-87C variants.
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>>156708931
What are you even implying faggot
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Is F22xRedditor streaming any time soon?

Im drunk as shit and feel like listening to some raging autist talk about anime
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>>156722890
>>156723349
Roon and Hind get what looks like a seaplane version of the Fw190, or something like it
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>>156722890
>what could possibly be at T9 and T10?

T9 and T10 use Ta152s.
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>>156722890
Only bomber I would think they could operate would be the Ju-87C.
Those could carry bombs and I believe could be fitted for torpedoes.
Fighters would the Bf-109T, which were 109s with longer wings (Which would be detached and attached as needed) and the proper carrier landing equipment. Although it still retained that awful, narrow, undercarriage.

For anything else, they would have to do some messing with history. Maybe use some Italian planes that operated off carriers for earlier tiers, and make naval versions of Me-262s and stuff for later.
Overall, I highly doubt there will ever be a German CV line. Even if they mix it with Italian carriers, Germany does not have a history building those types of ship.
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>>156722734
STOP THIS FUCKING MEME WAVE

BALTIMORE IS A SHIT SHIP. NO WAYS AROUND IT.

SHIT ROF SHIT RANGE AND SHIT GUNS
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>>156723697

One of the best cruisers in the world of its time is one of the worst ships in the game.
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>>156723587
cool blog post raptor.

nobody gives a fuck.
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>>156723806
Its kinda what the Panther is for WoT
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This is insane lads
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>>156723697
that's not me but with CE + stealth, you get your detectability down to 9.4 km. the guns aren't bad either, it's the same exact arc, pen etc as des moines. range is 18 km iirc, which isn't bad for a t9 cruiser but the problem is definitely the RoF
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>>156723696
They mentioned the Graf Zepplin planned as a premium in the future, which would probably indicate that they know they can't do an entire line and would rather just find a different way of putting the single German CV in the game
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>>156723587
He's a NEET now so he doesn't have university internet speeds so he can't stream.
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>>156723939
top kek, what a fag.
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>>156723909
It's a real shame that truly dark night battles will confuse new players((((((
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>>156723858

Sad isnt it? Never played WoT but historically the Panther was great. What are its flaws in WoT?
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>>156723909
>Night battles
Would be cool, but the shitters complain about a 5 minute typhoon, so most likely we'll never get them.
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>>156723806
>>156723858

This guy nails it on the head.

Panther was a world class tank yet it gets stuffed in at t7 with the tiger and they both are underpowered and just outmatched by pretty much every other tank at its tier.

Shame really. WoT did open my eyes about the fact that the tiger did NOT have that great of armor in reality. Especially with most tanks adopting a sloped armor design.

Baltimore is just outclassed by 3 fake fucking ships.
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>>156721964
thanks for this link anon, this is a really cool website
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>>156724079
It's exceedingly mediocre and is in a tier where it ends up fighting stuff like the T54 and M103.
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>>156724079
>What are its flaws in WoT?

Its overtiered. Its a t7 and going up against all those T9 napkin tanks. It has shit alpha, and no dps to make up for it. The pen is bad. its huge, it doesnt have the turret armor the vodka tenks get. its to big and to sluggish.

Neither one of those things alone would make it bad, but it just bad at everything and good at nothing

If it was a T5 and facing the stuff it would face historically, it would be op though.
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>>156723696
Torpedo bombers culd be FW-190s.
Not historical because the plane was never intended for carrier operations, but at least it's a single engine German plane that could carry a torpedo.
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>>156722334
no more like
>benson shot at BB
>buki spot him
>everyone shot at benson
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>>156723587
sorry senpai no stream for at least another month, but I might be getting drunk and shittalking on the discord later tonight if you wanna join
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>>156724206
>WoT did open my eyes about the fact that the tiger did NOT have that great of armor in reality.

Good luck penetrating a Tiger with your 57mm gun from 1500m, Ivan
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>>156724383
Wow, a 300 m difference, I am sure Fubuki will get away and Benson dies before the Benson sees the Fubuki

Makes me really think!
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>>156724476
17 pdr guns effectively laid waste to the armor on a tiger.

Once the allies realized they needed to up their guns on the shermans an E8 could easily fuck up a tiger.
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>>156724476
The ZiS-2 can do it out to 850 meters or so actually...
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>>156724472
Why did you drop out, nerd?

I want a stream. Its not like you have anything other to do than stream and think of those tens of thousand of dollars you threw out of the window for something EUfags get for free.

I mean if you make 5 dollar a day with your stream you might be debt free by 2100
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Black Hotel: Literally, the QTest.
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>>156723697
You sound upset.

Also, I didn't say it was good, it is still the weakest t9 cruiser.

I just said that it can work with the new rudder shift mod. You can still invisifire, and when they see you, you simply do a 90° turn, go slow, speed up again, do another turn and disappear again.

Or just constantly WASD, most Bbs will stop trying to hit you fter they missed you the third time in a row.

Will this make you set the world on fire while being invisible, like an Ibuki? No.
Will this give you 10 sec reload and 5 km sonar, like a Roon? No.

The problems are that AA is a meme, cruisers as a whole can't perform the role WG apparently thinks they have, and having good AP on a cruiser is fucking pointless.

Ask German cruisers about having 'good' AP someday.
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>>156724089
>>156724076
Night battles with star shells and smoke in WoWS never ever?

Fuck me, I had so much fun here, one ship to light star shells the rest engaging enemy ships, smoke adding to to the concealment and confusion it was great, really hard to get an accurate estimate and a good shot off with the smoke and night but when you did it felt so good

And it was a smashing success for the Royal Navy-

>RN
HMS Jupiter DD - Sunk

>KM
Z10 Hans Lody DD - Sunk
Z20 Karl Gelster DD - Sunk
Z4 Richard Beitzen DD - Crippled
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>>156724835
Uh, I graduated, and I'm debt free, once I'm back in my own place I'll stream more
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>>156725093
>having good AP on a cruiser is fucking pointless.

But Anon, you can cit pen BBs at close range))))))
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>>156722890
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>>156724710
In reality, the Tiger wasn't about the armor. Think about the armor for a minute. It offered roughly the same frontal protection that a Sherman had.

It was about a gun that could hit and knock out everything at 1500 m.
Too bad that in WoT that gun is utterly useless because WG used sekret dokument data, and by the time you get a Tiger everyone else drives tanks from 1944 anyway)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>156723858
>>156724079
>>156724206
What in the fuck am I god damn reading? The Panther? Good? Great? GREATEST? It's like I'm in some dick wanking Wehraboo hell.
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>>156725572
>posted from my burning M4
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>>156725093
Hey, at least it can bow tank Bismark.
True baBBies sometimes don't even get that they cannot pen you and will try again and again.
Sadly same cannot be said about other BB
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>>156725293
Yeah. Great.

Especially the German cruisers can citpen BBs at like 7 km. Where they can just as well torp them, at least the torps will still take the BB with them after the CA dies.

Bonus fun fact: German CAs actually stop taking citpens at under 10, the angle of the incoming shells is just too flat.
Too bad that they just die to normal pens((((((((((((((((((
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>>156725637
>posted from my broken down Panther that went 35 miles before breaking its final drive and falling into a ditch before spontaneously combusting
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>>156725670
Why are the main guns on the Bisko so shit?

Cit pens are hell of alot rare than with Amagi or NC, armor is a meme anyway and its secondaries are shit anyway.
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>>156725796
>posted from my T-34 that lost its radio due to rain, and its entire battalion to a single Tiger
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>>156725796
>Implying the panther even made it 35 miles with its road wheels entirely frozen together with mud

blyat)))
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>>156725415
Good point, comrade.

Let us look for some more data on German carriers.
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>>156725824
only 38 cm, everyone else has 406 mm or 41 cm
also, maybe it has low krupp)))))))))))))))))))))
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>>156725824
As other anon said -- only 380mm.
That means that it can overmatch 26.57mm of armor.
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>>156724892
She's shit m8.
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>>156725953
But anon, we already knew the T-34 was shit.
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>>156725953
>T-34 that lost its radio due to rain
More like never had a radio, and the signal flags are now frozen together because rain froze inside the tank.

You will still join attack on enemies of motherland, even though you can't see shit, can't heaer what you commander wants you to do, but is not important as long as you drive towards enemy)))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>156726543
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>>156709156
They probably won't be doing most of those since they only seem interested in the ships that appeared in the animu.
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fair and balans )))))))))
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Jesus this is off to a bad start but at least it wasn't Barham
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>>156727502
Isnt that kinda like sinking a hotel in a T3?

How the fug did that happen ?
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>>156728375
Reminds me all the way back in open beta when a Kuma bot defeated a Yamato bot in the training room.
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>>156728496
So this is the origin of the "baBBies fear the kuma" may-may?
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>>156728595
No, it came after. BaBBies fear the Kuma comes from a forum topic in which a BaBBie complained that there was no way a New Mexico could defeat a Kuma and that cruisers were too strong (iirc this is before the HE buff). Highlights including claiming that the New Mexico (at that time one of the best BBs in terms of dispersion) couldn't hit anything and that a cruiser shouldn't feel entitled the right to sink a battleship. The subsequent mockery on /vg/ was where the baBBies fear the Kuma started.
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>>156728947
To be fair the Kuma as a wickedly deadly ship.
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Have this /wowsg/: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr4_RC4oZ4s

Enjoy.
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>>156729269
>Kuma as a wickedly deadly ship.
This fucking meme needs to die. Kuma is mediocre.
>>
So understanding that I'm still newish and haven't fully gotten rid of bad habits- When in a CA/CL/BB I find myself on the inside of an enemy fan for whatever reason; tunnel vision, allies spontaneously combusting, map awareness, and I am headed inwards due to whoever I was angling previously what is the best bet to get out alive?
Just hit the rudder hard and hope I don't get citideled into oblivion on the turn, try to push out on whatever the weakest point of the fan is, or try to kick it into reverse? Let's imagine I just cleared an island so there's nothing convenient to try and cover a retreat immediately ahead or to the side of me.
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>>156729269
>To be fair the Kuma as a wickedly deadly ship.

>getting cited by everything, from every angle
>deadly

pick one
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I love this ship.
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>>156728947
>>156729269
I almost can't fucking believe it's been more than a year already.
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>>156728375
>How the fug did that happen ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_between_HMAS_Sydney_and_German_auxiliary_cruiser_Kormoran
tl;dr: HMAS Sydney didn't notice that the ship 1 km off her side was a raider, and got BTFO hard.

Turns out that two unarmored ships shooting each other can very well end up sinking one another.

Though it is highly entertaining that the Germans scuttled their ship instead of actually sinking due to enemy hits again.
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>>156729978
i went through that article.

God this sounds fun af, realistic mode when?
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>tfw instead of Barham it was Valiant but a BB was still sunk by U-331

fug, I can't stop history
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>russian cruisers
>russian destroyers

>no Royal Navy, Her Majesty's Ship

DOWN THE AGES SAYING ONWARD

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1474328248153.webm
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>>156730503
I wonder what those guys would have thought had they seen England today
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Unequaled in the history of mankind.

How can battlecruiser Iowa compete?
>Decks: 7.5 in (190.50 mm)
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>>156729978
Bongs take too long to sink ship in a fast und efficient manner, we must take it upon ourselves as proud Germans to correct this inefficiency :^)
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are the wargaming boat models pre-painted?
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>>156730727
Glory to Nelson

Glory to Rodney
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>>156730791
Reminder Bismarck got sunk by Her Majesty's Ship's 16", devastating blows that shook the entire world for a whole year.
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Anyone have the screencap of the /k/ thread detailing japanese "botesluts" from World War 2?
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>>156730727
>How can battlecrusier Iowa even compete

It still exists :^)
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>>156729548
Kuma is wicked deadly, Kuma!
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How can
>Colorado
compete with
>1½ minute RoF
against Her Majesty's Ship Rodney

>>156730979
>Museum
>never sunk a battleship

neck yourself kiddo
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>>156728947
Right, found the thread again
>http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/30952-1v1-matchups-new-mexico-vs-kuma/
Also I may have misremembered, may have just been a human player in a Kuma killing an Iowa bot, pic related.
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>>156730639
I dont even want to think about this desu.

Looks like we picked the wrong side after all
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>>156730907
We will ignore Hans and Gunter going through and planting charges all along the ship for now :^)
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>>156730376
>God this sounds fun af,

Yes specially when you can change the silly outcome.

In fact I havent been able to replicate it even when playing as the Kormoran, partly because you start out head on on Sydney's flank and cant bring all your guns to bear on the first turn, and the Sydney already knows you're hostile so no element of surprise there.

I really wish there was a Pacific theater version of Atlantic Fleet so I could try out the Battle of Leyte Gulf as Taffy 3 and as the IJN fleet with Yamato and try to replicate the outcome as well as annihilate Taffy 3 as IJN
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This triggers the battlecruiser Iowa, literally lmao'ing right now.
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>>156731071
>>156730907
>>156730860
>>156730727

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>156731142
Indeed

>>156731071
Can't touch your shipfu and having another tism fit cause you can't kid?
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>>156731161
>SCUTTLED NOT SUNK
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Psst kid wanna know why there's no Royal Navy? It'd btfo every other ship lmao

>>156731327
>touching a museum that accomplished nothing
desu baka no
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>>156730939
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>>156731254
All I see is more shattered windows m8 )))))))
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>>156731439
>>156731371

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>156731441
Holy shit, I never knew

Suddenly Kancolle and GuP and stuff don't seem so silly and shit since even the sailors themselves did something similar
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F R E E D O M
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>>156731631
Is that the Indianapolis?
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>>156731473
Where did this meme even come from?
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>>156731371
>>156731439
I'm having a good laugh, keep them coming lad

t. Number #1 Navy in the World
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>>156730791
Well, in all fairness, these two ships really ripped each other apart.

Kormoran exploded from out-of-control fires reaching the mines 30 minutes after the scuttling charges had blown, and it looks like Sydney's bows tore off causing the ship to sink in less than a minute while she was heading home.
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>>156730858
pls reply
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>>156731439
>Psst kid wanna know why there's no Royal Navy?
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>>156730907
SCUTTLED.
NOT.
SUNK.
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>>156731870
No idea, sorry senpai
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>>156731978
HEIL!
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>>156724515
benson is forced to use their guns
buki dont
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>>156728496
>>156728947
kuma thickness is literally too thin for baBBy AP to explode inside it. most likely that not any AP fired at kuma will always overpen instead of citpen

plus, torpedoes. who the fuck knows how to dodge torpedoes on a battleship.
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>>156729548
you take that back

before she hears it
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>>156732920
>Load HE
>Shoot Kuma
>HE detonates inside citadel
>Does less damage than a successful AP penetration would have
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>arlios
>raptor
>abru
>and if there is someone else living in the southeast cost
are you of ok?
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>>156732874
So Benson shoots the Fubuki.. wow,. makes me really think who'll win here.
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Look at dat superior gun elevation, other ships are you even trying?
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>>156733278
HP here.
I'm dying.
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>>156733278
jesus fucking christ not this image again
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>>156733278
arlios lives in canada you dumb fuck
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>>156733278
>All these shitposters in the south east
So that's why these threads have been ok for the past couple days
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>>156733136
>people still post this terrible fucking webm I made a gorillion years ago
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>>156733682
Who the fuck are you and why are you posting websm that are so bad quality i cant even read your name ?
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>>156733537
w-we're not all like raptor
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This is why we can't have nice things
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>>156733278

Sleep through the storm.
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What if raptor is killed in the storm
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>>156735312
we probably won't be that lucky
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>>156735312
It's never so easy.
>>
>Sink The Bismarck!
>Bismarck turns to engage the HMS Rodney and HMS King George V
>Charges head long into the two battleships, intending to send the Rodney down with her
>Brutalizes the Rodney while the British BBs shells rattle off her bow harmlessly
>Rodney is burning, listing heavily to port with massive damage to her super structure, turrets 1 and 2 are inoperable
>All hope seems lost
>HMS King George detonates the Bismarck with a single shell

Fucking hell Atlantic Fleet is great fun.
>>
Why are the sisters so good.
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>>156735890
SCUTTLED NOT SUNK
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>>156735925
Best sisters
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>>156734301
I am a shitter who can't make webms.

I post webms that are so bad quality because I can't make webms.
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>>156735890
I'm playing that same battle right now, King George is pounding the Biscuit, Cruisers Dorsetshire and Norfolk are missing every godamn shot because they're keeping their distance and Rodney is in a slugging match with Biscuit but its using smoke so a lot of my estimates are off and now this happens

fuck you Bismarck you little shit, if Rodney doesn't get you, KGV will
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>>156736163
WHY DID YOU SAVE THIS

DELETE IT
>>
HURRYGANE :D :D
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>>156736163

>kissu~

when are you going to come back home chain

you gay
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>>156736454
>>156735890
>oil tanker catches on fire both times
So we can consider that confirmed.
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Rodney deals the killing blow.

>SCUTTLED NOT SUNK
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>>156736163
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>"Thanks for taking part in 0.5.12 Public Test. You are receiving this notification because you qualified for at least one bonus for playing during the event. Click the button below, then click the Check button and see what rewards are coming your way!"


>This happens when I click the button

wtf. I completed the DD and BB missions. WHERE ARE MY CAMOS
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>>156737647
KGV landed the most hits and took not even a scratch, but Rodney... Rodney has seen better days
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>>156736163
lewd as shit
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>>156737647
Bismarck's final battle is a great demonstration of how strong Germans shipbuilding could be, and also how devastating RN gunnery was.
Bismarck start afloat after a withering barrage of battleship and cruiser fire. That shows she was built tough. But keep in mind she was a floating mass at the end because all her control centers, fire directors, and gun turrets had been knocked out with accurate fire.
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>>156738045

Yeah but in the end she went down by her own crews hands and not the Royal Navy's and that gives me great comfort.
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>>156731735
>Number #
kys
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>>156737827
>reminds me to check mine
>same thing
cmon WG I didn't complete these missions on multiple accounts for no rewards
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>>156737827
>>156738512
Did they send out emails about this? I still haven't seen jack fucking shit about it.
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>>156738659
I got an email for NA saying I was eligible for a reward for 5.12 test server
Don't seem to have gotten anything for SEA
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>>156738273
It's interesting how that was a debate held by the survivors of Bismarck and the men of the Royal Navy. As well as how it persists to this day.
It's an entirely moot point that will never have a true answer because the location where any torpedoes caused flooding is buried in the mud.
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>Try my hand at Bismarck
>Rodney and KGV knock out my main spotter and radar on their first and second salvos and now all my fucking shots even at good estimates are appearing several degrees off to Rodney's starboard side

fug
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>>156738290
Thanks for the (You)
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So is survivability or basic firing training more optimal for early German cruisers?
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>>156739871
might as well just go BoS because of all the HE that ends up flying around, your AA isn't going to be be much improved anyway and the repairs/fire duration sees a lot more use, especially with how often engines and rudders seem to get knocked out at those tiers.
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>>156738045
At the ranges Rodney ended up firing, no armor n the planet would have protected the target.
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>>156740550
rip shit ship
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>>156740949
Hahah holy shit no way, whats up with the B turret?
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>>156741292
Took a direct hit. Every turret was knocked out in some way, And even the Admiral's bridge, one of the most armored parts of the entire ship, was penned clean through by a shot.
The British were not fucking around.
>>
SUMMONING
chain
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>>156741292
Just some superficial damage.
Scuttled, not sunk, remember?
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This is gonna be fun
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>>156737827
>>156738512
Oh, so it's not just me
First thing I did when that happened was submit a ticket. I want my goddamn 30 camos
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>>156737827
>>156738512
>>156738659
>>156742245
Something screwy has been going on with the rewards for the most recent PT. I got my camos earlier on, then they sent out a second email and I got my Premium time and signals. WG acknowledged the issue in the EU forum.
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>>156741292
rodney hit her with a 16in shell it blew out the back and fragged anyone who was left on deck.apparently the spotters could track the shell the whole way they were so close
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>>156741857
If you look at the penetration values, it looks like Rodneys guns could have penetrated Yamato at those ranges.

>>156742196
The funny part is that the way Bismarck was constructed really means that all but five of those hits you can see on that drawing actualy ARE superficial.

>>156740949
I wouldn't really say shit.

It's more a case of a fundamentally flawed design, like the Fisher-style BCs.
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>>156742242
Off to a great start
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>>156742940
Well, you should still win this.

Afterall, you are the Royal Navy
and ships exploding is perfectly normal ;^)
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>>156741857
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>>156742940
Somethings wrong with your bloody ships m8 :^)
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>>156742940
Arkhangelsk canot sink you must try again clearly you have many bugs
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I DID THE BATTLESHIP MISSION

WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY LAST 10 TYPE 6 CAMOS

WHERE IS IT NIKO
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>>156741927
fugoff abrach you already had him earlier ((((
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>>156743593
ya i'm missing mine too
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>>156743275
That one actually didn't do any 'real' damage.

That's one of those overpens the baBBies whine about.
Post that on the forums whenever they cry about those 'shitty 1k hits'
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>>156693594
During alpha, WG said no to any suicide weapons, including kamikaze planes and kaiten torpedoes.
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>>156744798
fug so no catapult mounted ohka's
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>>156740949
>>
QUICK

TAB BACK INTO WOWS

IMMEDIATELY TAKE SCREENSHOT

POST HERE

LAUGH AT OTHERS' PORTS
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>>156702892
Fucking dumb kancolle weeb, the sanshikidan beehive shell never shot down any American planes in history. The hot fragments simply bounced harmlessly off the planes. Conversely, the sanshikidan caused permanent wear damage to the guns over time.

The shells are only good for one thing, and that is making a spectacular fireworks show.
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>>156745417
is this some kind of sick fetish
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SUMMONING ABRU
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>>156746038
Everyone knows this is you, Abru.
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Why has this not been posted yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vKFChdByEA
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>>156744798
Damn. I used to love doing that in Pacific Storm.
>Playing Japan
>My carrier is getting wrecked
>Scramble all aircraft possible into sky
>Carrier goes down
>Order bombs/torpedo planes to make attack runs, set fighters to Kamikaze, do the same with the bombers once they're made their initial runs

>>156745028
Another great weapon in that game. As long as you could get the G4M or G8M carrying it into range. Drop the Ohka, take control of it, and go full throttle dodging fighters and AA.
I really need to reinstall that game.
>>
How am I supposed to do well in cruisers? It seems like all of the sudden I've become useless by either dying immediately or doing basically nothing at maximum range
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>>156746635
I want to bring Akiducky, Teruducky, and Hatsuducky to a fancy restaurant, order a bunch of delicious food, and not let them eat any. At the end of the meal, I will have the waiter clear all the leftovers and throw them out.

When they come back to their barracks, there will be a single can of sardines and three bowls of steamed barley for all of them.
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>>156746858
Tier?
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>>156730503
It's over
https://youtu.be/VstDOv0C1do
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>>156747140
6 and the free ARP ones at 7
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>>156746865
Thank you, it's been a while since I last read that.
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>>156745417
not sure why but here you go
>inb4 they laught at me ;_;
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>>156748181
>someone paid money for an Atago

KEK
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>>156745417
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>>156748565
actually no, was a gift from a good friend, but its a very good girl and is the one that i perform better in ranked
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>>156745417
NIPPON BANZAI SHOWA ERA WAS THE GREATEST or something
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>>156748929
>Showa
>not Meiji
baka desu senpai
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>>156748624
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>>156749058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrOcA1OqXwQ&list=WL&index=21

It'll take more than a measly Cat 4 to kill me Mako you dirty prisoner
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>>156748762
Definitely better than Mogami, I'll give you that.

:^)
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>>156749853
>mfw
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>>156703294
Paper ships use the same game mechanics as real ships. Their armor functions the same way and their HE/AP/torps do damage based on the same formulas as real ships.

That's completely different from a whole other shell type that was proven to be near-useless in combat.
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>>156709156
>ARP ships that need to be implemented:
>Hyuuga
>Ise
Can't do ARP ships that don't have a regular non-ARP counterpart.

>Musashi
>Yamato
Those are tier 10 so not a chance in hell.
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>>156751443
>not a chance in hell.
That's what they said about Takao. Though the smart thing to do would be to make them alternate camos for people who already own the ship.
>>
>join random game
>get crushed
>half enemy team ranked 5

Yeahno.png
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>>156751443

Where would the Ise class fit into the tech tree? Isn't it just a Fuso knock-off?
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>>156751641
It was until they replaced the back end with a useless flight deck.
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>>156751443
>>156751628
They're too lazy to model an entire new ship for ARP. I bet the takao ARP is just a reskin of the atago we have ingame. Altho technically the atago we have ingame is apparently modeled after takao irl.
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>>156752031
>technically the atago we have ingame is apparently modeled after takao irl

Takao used to be the T8 line ship. When they swapped the ships around they had her model lying around so they renamed it Atago and started farming them sweet sweet shekels with it.
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>>156752370
To be fair atago is a really good premium. That doesn't excuse WG's laziness though but that's to be expected.
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Are there enough British Carriers to form a complete tech tree for them?
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>>156752463
It used to be dogshit apparently, but they went too far with the buffwand(?).
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>>156715805
Low-tier German CLs are a pile of shit. Mid-tier are pretty nice except for the usual CL problem of getting deleted by BBs. German CAs I find boring. And through the whole line the torps are too short range to use against anybody who's not a moron.
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>>156752547
Yes.
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>>156752594
She was never dogshit.
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>>156752646
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_of_the_Royal_Navy
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>>156751641
Ise as built would be Fuso with slightly better arcs for the middle turrets. Ise with the flight deck would be a tier 5 premium with a bunch of AA guns on the deck since that's what was ultimately done due to lack of planes. It'd be the Japanese counterpart to Texas pretty much.
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>>156752647
She was dogshit prior to receiving buffs and a healpot and back then, Mogami was still OP as fuck.
>>
Babbies should be able to do this more reliably.
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>>156752647
>>156752961
Atago was mediocre while mogami was super OP back then but after the heal pot and mogami nerf atago is now the best.
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>>156752647
She was mediocre as fuck back in the day, she had no heal and she was up against pre-nerf Mogami
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>>156752961
No, she wasn't. She's always been a good fucking ship. And even if she wasn't as good back then, she was nowhere NEAR "dogshit" bad, fucking ever.
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>>156753120
Then why did she get a healpot?
Face it, Atago was terrible and there was no reason to buy her outside credit making. Which is why WG buffed her.
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>>156753181
She got a healpot cause retards kept exposing her broadside which is an easy citadel, and then cried about it so WG gave her a healpot.
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>>156753181
>Never changed any of her stats
>Only gave her a heal pot
>Actually, seriously, really implying that the heal pot alone is what makes Atago so great

I want the turbo shitter power hour to fucking end. Atago has always been a fucking great ship. When they buffed her it was the most confusing thing in the patch because there was no fucking reason for it.
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>pt boats
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>tfw drunk
>use my gunbote Fubuki
>dont even try my best
>this happens

Officially OP build. Always snipe, always fire behind with torps because youre making targets turn away.

IT'S FUCKING EVIL
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>>156752547
>Are there enough British Carriers to form a complete tech tree for them?
Oh yeah, more than enough. The Brits had lots of carriers.

Probably WG isn't going to introduce any new carrier lines until they rework carrier gameplay though.
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>>156753614
Enjoy it while it lasts, your Fubuki's gonna get smacked around with the nerfbat when dropped down to tier 6.
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>>156753554
I dont get this PT Boats meme

I know it's from Warthunder's decision to include PT's in their botes game, but that alone wouldn't warrant this meme. What else is supposed to be playable in their botes game?
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>>156753614
>even when youre not doing your best fubuki does
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>>156753728
>pt boats
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>>156753545
>No healpot Atago
>WR is bottom of all cruisers
>Healpot Atago
>WR is top of all cruisers

>the heal pot alone doesnt make atago great!

Atago has always been a good ship, but she wasn't a particularly high performer. The same good results you could get in her were about the same as in other cruisers, if not worse (Mogami). To think that the healpot doesn't matter is fucking stupid. The healpot is what makes Atago fucking OP.
>>
>>156753728
there's nothing to get

everyone was expecting war thunder ships to be actual ships, even wowsg was

then they come out with the bait and switch with the PT boats

so we laugh at WT, with "PT boats".
>>
>>156753614
>tfw abrach was right
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>>156753845
Regarding performance, Atago had the same problem as Tirpitz in that for a long time, they were the only tier 8 premiums and, as such, were captained by complete fucking tomatoes.
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>>156753926
WT-type gameplay with big ships would be a total disaster. Those idiots at Gaijin should've realized that all along and never promised "ships".
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>>156753728
>What else is supposed to be playable in their botes game?
River boats.
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>>156754137
>WT-type gameplay with big ships would be a total disaster.
Fuck off, Gaijin and/or Wargaming shill.
>>
>>156753845
>Complete noobs buy a tier 8 ship
>Noobs get their shit wrecked by people who actually got to tier 8 by grinding and thus learned to play the game
>Tier 8 premium ship gets bad winrate

It's not that the healpot doesn't help, it obviously does. But those noobs either ragequitting or getting good also pushed up Atago's WR.
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>>156753845
The healpot was nothing more than icing on a very nice cake.
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>>156753724

>kag gets moved to t8
>gunbote meme survives
?????
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>>156753514
cute
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>>156753724
What the fuck are you implying

Fubuki is a tier 6 ships tuck in tier 8, it could get killed by a Clemson without trying.
>>
>spend nearly 3 minutes trying to light a Nagato on fire with my Gnevy before I finally get 2 fires that she DCPs away
>suddenly my friendly ships all load HE and hit her right after it wears off and take all the fire slots
>no damage for me

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>156754846
you will suffer that a lot until you get DE (my recomendatios is that you take AFT first tho)
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>>156753514
what a bunch of cutes
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>>156754509
That's exactly what it is tho, a fucking meme.
>>
>>156753724
>>156754509
Apart from stealth, the nerf doesn't look outrageously severe. I think she will do fine at T6.
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>>156755520
The problem is that stealth is an integral part of the IJN Line.
The big things that annoys me is that Akatsuki will have worse detection than Sims, making her the first IJN DD to be outspotted by a USN DD of the same tier.
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>>156756216
And it's slow as fuck too.
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>>156756545
Akatsuki's apparently going to be 38 knots, though, which is pretty good.
>>
>>156756573
Oh disregard that, I read that as akizuki.
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>>156691848
>Admiralty
?
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>>156756780
An 'admiral' being the naval equivalent of a 'general officer' or simply, 'general'.
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>>156756645
Akizuki's pretty stealthy, actually. But when the Japanese don't actually have their stealth national peculiarity at mid tiers (T7-8) and lose their torpedo advantage peculiarity at high tiers (T9-T10), what's the point?
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>>156756923
Yes, which would explain why the general had "admiral" instead of "admiralty".
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>>156754079
>>156754330
>>156754503
>http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/pastrecords/20150926nt/average_ship.html
>Atago prebuff
>utter trash performance, better only than the Nawlins with 47% wr
>hurr it was already good before receiving healpot, shitters brought its stats down
>meanwhile Tirpitz rekt shit right off the bat
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>>156756216
Akatsuki is tier 8 right? She'll be able to use concealment module so she should have better stealth than sims if you mount that?
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>>156757328
>lower skill floor and ceiling
>better performance
HMMMMMMMMM
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>>156757870
Stop gloating you sick fucking bastard how fucking dare you do this
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>>156757821
Atago was a badbote prior to healpot bruh, I don't think there's much else to be said.
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>>156757912
S-sorry..
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>>156758170
It wasn't a bad boat, it was just mediocre without healpot compared to myoko without her range nerf and mogami pre-nerf.
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>>156758639
>worse than her counterparts

Yes, that is pretty bad.
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>>156758639
>Prinz wasn't a bad boat, it was just mediocre without healpot compared to MK with invisifire and Atago post-buff.
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>>156759105
>>156759242
She wasn't worse than her counterparts, she had better angles on turrets and better torp placements. Compared to pre nerf myoko and mogami, she was just mediocre.

It was only after they gave her the heal pot and nerfed myoko and mogami that she became better than that. Before that they were all pretty even, except for myoko being a tier lower with less hp.
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>>156759463
They weren't even while pre-nerf Mogami was around. She was a true terror that was way better than any of her counterparts.
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>>156759568
Yes, but to be fair mogami was over performing, so you can't really say atago was a bad ship because you compared her to an OP ship.

Atago had her good points but it wasn't good enough to make her great, but she was never a bad ship.
>>
Please tell Anusmati and Rapespammer to stop spamming /a/.

Yours truly
/a/

>>>/a/148229488
>>>/a/148230453
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>>156760364
This is getting out of hand.
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>>156760364
>shitposting on /a/
say it isn't so
>>
>>156754330
>Intro WoWs to colleague
>He like it, unlock 1st T4 ship (Svetlana)
>Buy Atago
>Ragequit after 2 month.
>>
>>156760364

>Stop liking what i dont like!
I hope you get banned for your stupidity.
>>
>>156761315

Its literally anime on /a/ in a related general about ship sluts. Because you are too stupid to realize that anonymous posters arent all who you think they are we've come to the point where you are trying talk about another board's spammer who you think is a person who posts on this board. Fuck off for being stupid.
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>wake up
>haven't played WoWs for a while
>regularly check KanColle's thread on /a/
>the worst fag there happens to be the worst namefag here
>notice the "Kaga"fag is at it again
>check /wowsg/
>"Bro its anime! Spamming anime pics is fine on /a/!"
>mfw

I wonder who it could be.. my "anus" is twitching, give me a sec guys I need to let it out and I'll be back in a minute.

On a serious note, fucking kill yourself Anumati.
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>>156760157
Yes you absolutely can. if we go with your line of thought, nothing is bad, just underperforming :^)))

Pre-buff Atago had a 47% wr on some weeks, you literally are more likely to lose every time you field it.
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Statskun stats where/when

I want to see how shit I am
>>
Hey Snoring Manko, are you going to this?

http://worldofwarships.asia/en/news/common/wgg-au-Q4-2016/
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>>156761659
Atago wasn't underperforming, mogami was overperforming. There's a difference.
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>>156764343
It was both desu.
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>>156764343
Atago underperformed because Mogami overperformed.
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>>156764343
>mogami was overperforming
Not according to WG when they introduced MK.

Unfortunately, Mogami was rebalanced so now MK has a bit more balans))))))))) than the other cruisers.
>>
What's THE nip line to go down?

I got an atago captain i wanna use but i've only got Mutsuki unlocked in the tech tree
>>
I-I want to board Takao
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>>156766891
CAs. The entire line is good.
Alternatively BBs, most of the line is good, and some of the ones that previously weren't good aren't that bad these days.
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>>156766891
If you want to be the absolute best, then CVs

Russians have the best CA line, USN/Russians are the go to lines for DD, and Krauts have the best BB line. that said, IJN BBs and CAs are still solid lines, but their DDs are pretty shit right now.
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>>156767351
Good thong we're getting new Japanese DDs soon.
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>>156768128
Hehe, sick Shimakaze reference bro.
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>>156768128
the gunboats last time the stats were leaked were not only the better boats but also had better torpedoes

the torpedo line was also nerfed on the torpedo armaments

I'm hoping 5.13 will have radical changes. and that total navy gets reverted to something more navy like
>>
>>156767351

>CVs
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>>156768128
With that shit turret traverse, chances are they'll still get memed on by burgers and vodkas
>>
>buy Amagi
>excited to try it out since the ship always raped me while in Nagato
>can't hit anything
>lose tons of range, end up being beaten up by every BB and CA in range
>gorillions of xp to buy a new hull for increasing range
This is the point where I buy Premium, right?
>>
>>156770679
Yes. Alternatively, you can just stop playing.
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>>156763808
Ask them about account transfer thanks cunts
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>>156770679
You should have tons of free XP.

Or did you waste that on unlocking new ships and modules at low tiers?
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>>156770679
It's a good bote after fully upgraded :^)
>>
>DDs get proximity torpedo detonators, merely 10 doubloons per torpedo fired
>CAs/CLs get AShM secondaries gotta justify Russian bb having missiles somehow
>CVs get medium bombers because fuck your AAA I should be allowed to bomb you from the safety of the stratosphere until a CAsual SAM it out
what the hell could they give BBs that isn't nuke rounds? fucking rail guns?
>>
>blue sluts flag

Looks pretty plain.
>>
>>156770846
>>156763808
If any of you guys are in Melbourne you should definitely go. They hand out bonus codes to attendees for all of their WG Australia events.
>>
>>156771214
Wait, how did you get it?
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>>156770948
>8 kills
>on a BB
Are you some kind of wizard?
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>>156771576
By being a supertester with big benis )))
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>>156771652
No, it's a case whereby the MM blessed me with shitters on both teams.

:^)
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>>156771576
Asia server currently has the Takao missions, it's the 2nd mission.

>>156771669
Shiggy/Yuzu pls go
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>>156752547
WG has confirmed that a full RN carrier branch is in the works, but stated that it will be a 'long time' before it's released.
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>>156773115
I don't know for how long we have to wait for Her Majesty's Ships, will I still play this game when it's complete?
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>>156773489
Cruisers are coming soon™
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Been away for a while. How do the new Tier X BBs compare to Yamato and Montana?
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>>156774969
Maybe.
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>>156774923
That look turns me on.
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Benson is just a shitty gunboat
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>>156774969
German baBBy is a huge torpedo magnet

literally trhice the size, subpar torp protection and 420mm guns blaze it with subpar pen
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>>156775461
>German baBBy is a huge torpedo magnet, subpar torp protection
Just hydro, can't get torped ))
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How do we make CA AP more viable?
Alternatively, when do we get separate battlecruiser line so that I can baBBy while CAsualing?
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>>156775768
By giving them AP incendiary shell)))
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>>156775346
Get back to Benson Jones' Locker, Fuckbucket.
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>>156775768
by giving them AShM gold ammo

by allowing their ap to explode inside DDs
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How the fuck do you get good?
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>>156776489
Train yourself in SEA server
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>>156776489
as a CAsual you don't. stick to someone and focus on what you can, disengage when you are getting hit

as a DD you learn your invisifire ranges and stick to it

as a CVnt you get your apm to 420 and learn to alt fire

as a baBBy you learn to brawl
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>>156776489
Play on SEA server to learn the ropes, and then move to NA server to bash fat burgers.
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>>156776632
>>156776736
:^)

>>156776717
Literally wrong for everything but baBBies
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>>156776489
Suffer through 10 tiers on SEA and then jump to NA and rush all your favorite lines and stomp everyone
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When will this "NA players are bad" meme end?
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>>156777165
When the average stats of NA surpass SEA :^)
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>111k xp for a shitty waifu boat
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>>156777919
What's the issue?

It's not a particularly high ammount of XP.
It's something that you'll eventually unlock in the course of 3 months and barely even notice if you don't care about it.
It's free.
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>>156777165
Reminder that on anniversary EU beat NA 8-1
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>>156777165
When NA stops gettimg buttblasted by EU/SEA refugees.
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>>156778792
>muh rerolls
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>>156697789
Anumati but he mostly plays with full divs, most liekly he won't div with you.
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>>156778792
>wave
>reroll
>only plays in divisions with unicums in specific ship comps

>slay
>reroll
>pads with carriers
>only plays in divisions with unicums in specific ship comps

gee, it's fucking nothing.
abrach and raptor are better players desu
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Imagine being a crewman stuck in some water-tight compartment in the Bismarck, and all you can do is wait for your inevitable death as you listen to the bulkheads buckle under the pressure of water. You are sinking to what may be thousands of feet under water, and no one will ever see you again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmVpisMoyn0
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>>156779425
>mako
>never rerolled
>regularly dumpstereds the entirety of na
how will na ever compete with an australian god
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>>156779664
>responding to obvious bait

Hmmm
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>>156779471
>crew from above opened the tight door and screams for you and the others to quickly climb up because they can't keep the door up forever
>everyone climbs up except you and a guy
>guy climbs up and an explosion caused the men holding the door up to let go
>guy's head gets chopped off and you're left inside with his floating body
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>>156779157

Ask in the discord for Abrumati.
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>>156779425
What does rerolls have to do with anything? Remember that 3 full divs of NA's finest got bootybusted by 1 div of refugees and 9 randoms kek
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>>156762742
I just woke up, gimme some time.
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>>156779750

>Telling the truth is bait
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>>156780241
>abrach
>haruna
>refugees
>>
>it's a "team doesn't push despite all being in our favour" episode
>it's a "CVnt doesn't provide AA support" episode
>it's a "DD doesn't spot" episode
>it's a "you go with the DD to provide your cruiser gun support, but he fucks of the moment he gets outspotted" episode
>it's a "US DD thinks torps are his primary weapons" episode
>it's a "push in a BB but cruisers going with you suddenly do a full rtp despite all guns being aimed at you" episode
>it's an "all BBs sit at max range while enemy caps everything and win s the game" episode
Cancer free private server when?
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>>156780652
>enemy team hopelessly pushes us back
>leaves cap undefended
>win via cap

Kinda unsatisfying.
>>
>you die
>team loses
hmmmm
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>>156757598
Why do people keep thinking this? Akizuki is going to be tier 7, Kagero is Tier 8 and Yugumo is Tier 9.
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>>156782257
*Akatsuki is going to be tier 7
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>>156782257
Cause Akatsuki is similar to Akizuki. Also because all Jap ships arr rook same
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>>156784229
Being underwater will do that.
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F-florida are you ok?
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>>156785079
Those Pepe edits of that pic on /pol/ creeped me the fuck out pham
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WHERE ARE THE PTS REWARDS NIKO

WHERE ARE THEY
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>>156757328
>I didn't actually play Atago pre-buff

She was a good ship being played by fucking retards like you.
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>>156785079
Wow it's perfect.
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>>156786413
we use chat server to give reward)))

please be of patience )))))) server is of lack funding (((((
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>have übergodlikeOP AA on cleveland
>matched against t8 CV
>suddenly my AA doesn't mean shit, even with DF on
nice meme
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>>156786464
>stats literally show her underperforming
>hurr she's good

fuck off retard
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>>156786818
Fuck off you shitter
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>>156786718
>übergodlikeOP AA
>on cleveland
lolno
Cleveland's AA was nerfed twice, and cruiser AA was reduced in effectiveness across the board.

But don't feel bad, AA is not actually meant to stop aircraft anyway ;^)
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I don't dislike Ibuki at all, but I am really tired of this 5-turret business
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>>156691848

On which destroyers would you take the 3 point captain skill for faster torpedoes (+5 knots) but lesser overall range (-20%).

I have it on Mutsuki and I would say it fucks me over more times than it wins me a moment.
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>>156788232
Tier 9+.

SI is generally a better skill for DDs.
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>Mako and StayBad good at BBs
>Absolute fucking shitter in FPS
>Haruna and me shit(er) at BBs
>Can FPS
Can BBs make you retarded at other games?
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>>156788738
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>>156788232

Fubuki with AFT.

15 km torps turn into 12km torps, perfectly matching gun range. 73 second reload still, still .3km less spotting range, and now goes 62knots instead of 57.

>get in range
>shoot guns
>bait target to not turn for torps or even turn in
>quickly launch your torps as your guns reload so they don't notice
>set them on fire and piss them off while your torpedoes wreck them out of nowhere

congrats, you win.
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>all these Rank 5s
What sorcery
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>>156695815

needed to enter ASAP.
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>>156789363
But people start maneuvering once you start firing at them.
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>>156789478
>Crew members had little time to put on life vests and abandon ship. Over half the crew died from the explosions, went down with the ship or were killed when Italian escort ships dropped depth charges to stop the submarine.
>killed when Italian escort ships dropped depth charges
Way to go, Italy.
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>>156789478
RM is all about muh Vittorio Veneto desu
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>>156790037
the depth charges hurt their own ships instead?
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>>156791437
No, it's more like they sailed through their stricken sailors and dropped depth charges into their midst, trying to get the sub. Depth charges make a fantastic blast of water, and god forbid if you are floating on the water overlying a depth charge blast.
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>>156790037
National flavor when??

>RN gets 'Magazine doors open' which increases fire rate as well as chance of detonation

>Japan gets 'Type 93 oxygen torpedo': all IJN ships torps are faster, longer ranged, and do more damage but a hit to the torpedo module=detonation

>Italy gets 'Don't die': Italian ships have slightly improved survivability but if they sink there's a 50% your captain dies

>France gets 'Join or die': French ships can switch sides on the spot halfway through the match, but suffer a nerf to their cannons and lose half their HP when they do

Don't know what US, KM, or SU could have
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>>156791647
>KM, "Scuttled not sunk" which adds a 50% chance that your kill will not be claimed by any enemy player but will instead count as a suicide/scuttle, denying the player who dealt the final blow the reward
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>>156791647
SU get increased damage recived from fisher boats on low levels
And DoT on high levels, because paper get wet.
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>>156791647
Shite. Kill yourself.
>>
What's a low-polygon Ducky doing in the Baltic?
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>Arlios drawing a Hotel
CUTE!
>>
Am I supposed to buy doubloons and convert xp to free xp?
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>>156791647
I think the magazine doors open should be something available to all nations. Like how you can toggle AA/secondaries on or off. The door status would take effect after the next reload.
(I posted some other ideas earlier in the thread >>156693594, but some have already said WG ruled them out).
Out of all those I really just want National Battles and music. I enjoyed the National Battles in World of Tanks for the short time they were there, before being replaced by the total failure that was Historical Battles.
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>>156791647
USN gets 'Industrial Might': You start out with lower tier ships but after they die you get higher tier ships
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>>156791647
We don't even have france yet! God, I wish we did.
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>>156791647
>about to lose
>switch sides
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>>156792536
Save up your xp. We usually get events where 1 doubloon = 35 free xp.
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>>156792561
National battles were definitely something. I remember the old French Autoloader Zerg Rush where they either completely flattened the enemy team in the first few minutes or they melted as soon as they all had to start reloading.
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>>156793041
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>>156792561
>I enjoyed the National Battles in World of Tanks for the short time they were there
How? Confrontation was awful.
>World of German TDs vs Russian Heavies vs American Mediums
Depending on what map you drew, one side inevitably got roflstomped.
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>>156793117
I'll like to direct you to:
http://www.strawpoll.me/11369405
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>USS Montgomery (LCS-8)
>On 4 October 2016, a tug collided with Montgomery while the latter was getting underway to avoid Hurricane Matthew. Due to the collision, a crack measuring a foot in length was caused amidships, approximately three feet above the waterline. Five strakes were also bent. Temporary repairs were conducted, and the ship left port as planned

JUST
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>>156793527
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>>156793681
>a fucking tugboat can crack the hull of an LCS

LCS, not even once
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>>156794063
We're all a bunch of p2w ))))))))
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>>156792536
Waste of money. If you want to shorten the grind, pay for Premium time.
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>>156793097
I remember playing my Black Prince one game against the Germans. Tons of BPs, Churchill, and Comets taking on Tigers, Tiger Ps, and Panthers. It was great to see a line of Infantry tanks slowly moving in a line and firing.

>>156793097
The maps could favor one nation's playstyle. But I liked working with similar tanks, it could have been polished more and made better.

>>156793681
I think the LCS are some of the ugliest things ever put to sea. I hope the crew is alright but I wouldn't be able to care less if that travesty sank.
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>>156794193
Words can't express my disgust.
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>>156794282
>I hope the crew is alright

She went down with all hands

>The crack was letting in about a gallon of water every three minutes until sailors plugged the quarter-inch crack with wedges, the report said.
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>>156794743
>She went down with all hands
It would be more merciful than having to serve on a ship that hideous.
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>>156794743
>a gallon of water every three minutes
wow_it's_literally_nothing.jpg
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>>156794743
A FUCKING GALLON
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>>156794519
You don't want a shiny new premium?
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>>156795384
I will take a free ship if your offering.

t.eu scrub
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>>156794743
SCUTTLED NOT SUNK
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>>156795058
US navy has lost all sense of aesthetic design

>Pictured: USS Fort Worth (LCS-87) running circles after her rudder was disabled and locked into a full starboard turn after being torpedoes by a Swordfish biplane
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>>156796190
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>>156795384
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>>156796365
>>156796190
National embarrassment
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>>156796436
USA USA USA
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>>156796190
>>156796365
>3100tun displce
>45knts
is that good?
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>>156796705
Yes it can run from battle faster
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>>156796190
At least the San Antonio class LPDs and Zumwalt class look good.
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>>156796705
>>156796756
The Soviets did it with their submarines.

>12 kn surfaced, 41 knots submerged
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>>156796756
isn't it meant to have like all the anti swift boat shit in 1/3rd the size of the burk? aswell as anti sea mine capability
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>>156796864
>San Antonio
meh, only a little

>Zumwalt
fuck yeah, it looks mean
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Can you play ranked battles as a party of 2?
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How was your day lads?
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I just started playing this crap and it's kind of fun, can I get a referral? XII_Carolus_Rex EU server.

Does where you hit a ship really matter? Can you hit an ammo rack and blow a ship in one shot or am I being memed? Seems like everyone dies by hit points only.
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>>156797449
Nope, queue sync though.
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>>156797582
http://playtogether.worldofwarships.eu/invite/zaaxWEb

Detonation does happen, rarely though.

All ships apart from Destroyers have citadels which cause 10k plus dmg generally.
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>>156797638
do ranked battles affect your stats? can i pad there
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>>156797582
>Does where you hit a ship really matter?

Yes, especially with AP. AP does more damage with full penetrations. Hitting lightly armored sections like the bow, stern, or superstructure can result in overpenetrations, which do minimal damage.

HE does more damage against lightly armored parts like the superstructure. Hitting an extremely well armored part like a battleship's main belt will cause it to do little to no damage.

Both AP and HE can penetrate citadels, which is the only time where the round will do its full listed damage. Citadels only occur against certain parts of shits, mainly magazine spaces under the guns and engine rooms amidships.

>Can you hit an ammo rack and blow a ship in one shot or am I being memed?

You can be detonated, but it's extremely rare. Mainly happens to destroyers and cruisers.

Cruisers and battleships can take also large salvoes of citadel penetrations which can lead to the cruiser being one shot or the battleship losing most of its health. Unless you're at high tier or your positioning is shit, this won't happen too often either.
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>>156797940
I reckon it will, most stats sites record ranked battles seperately to randoms.

My stats are shit though so i dont really bother and ranked is smaller randoms so unless you can carry you maybe able to pad.
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>>156797750
>>156798037
Thanks for the info anons!
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>>156798338
Re roll your account if you want to redo stats or get a prem ship, unless you already have prems to begin with.
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>>156798338
since you just started playing the game..

start a new account with that code. The rewards are well worth whatever time you've spent thus far.
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>>156798037
>Citadels only occur against certain parts of shits
>certain parts of shits

I need sleep.

Also HE rounds have nowhere near the amount of penetration compared to AP, which means that HE cits are extremely rare.

>>156798338
Reroll your account unless you bought gold already. The rewards you get from referral are really great.
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>>156798338
Thank you for your service
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>>156797028
I admit I'm a bit biased towards the San Antonio class because USS New York is awesome. But also because it reminds me a little of the old BBs in a faint way. Raised bow, lowered stern, two tall parts on the superstructure that somewhat resemble the old wire cage masts/tripod towers.
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>>156770679
I finally got enough for Amagi and I like it already. It's like nagato but with one bonus tower. Only downside is her short range, but it's not fatal.
I'm not a good player, but I'm pleased with this ship. She's alright.
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>>156796705
its a frigate

would be weird but think of it as a destroyer with dual 80mm with a insane rof and a triple torpedo tube launcher on each side with insane concealment but about 5k HP

then theres the AShM and SAM armament but at this point the torpedoes alone would make it a tier 7
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>>156797750
>have citadels which cause 10k plus dmg generally
Citadel damage is dependent on the shell. Only BB AP can score over 10k damage.

>>156797940
WT doesn't include Ranked in 'All PvP', though it is recorded in another tab.
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>want to get the NC
>realise i've got the Cholera
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>>156798687
I suppose but its missing something the old BB's had ; ^)
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>>156797582
are you the fag who i linked yesterday and hasn't played a game yet?
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>>156799881
Yeah, I know. Missiles have ruined the fine tradition of naval gunnery. Even though they are definitely better, they are not nearly as cool massive rifles.
>>
pick your poison
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>>156800463
Fucking lattice masts.
I'm glad they ditched them.
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>>156800853
Gentlemans relish.
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who's our guy?
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>>156801156
In game when?
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>>156792195
>Bucky
>Two forward turrets
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>>156801608
>Bucky
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>>156797028
god it looks like the fucking caveman of warships.
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>>156801784
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>>156801809
Literally looks like a ship with Down syndrome

The hull is ok I guess, but that fucking tower
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>>156800463
Well said, also that pic is one of my favorite pictures of all time
>>
FUCKING

WHEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
Glorious german engineering. Why it's so pretty?
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>>156801156
Don't be talking bad about the Colorados. Even though my favorite BB eventually ditched them as well when she got raised from Pearl and modernized.
I really want a second US BB line with stuff like the Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Tennessee classes.
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>>156801156
tripod masts > lattice mast with closed towers (like his pic) > open lattice mast

imo
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>>156802142
thats not pretty
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>>156802274
Pagoda>all
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>>156802482
That's not Nelson anon
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>>156802623
Good joke
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Oh, look, Nurnberg.
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>>156802274
I agree. But I'll add to it:
Tripod masts > lattice w/ closed tower > British castle (Is there a name for what Rodney, KGV, etc. had?) > lattice w/ open tower > an open wheelhouse > Pagoda
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>>156802198
Its telling just how thorough the modernization she got, when even the Navy considered her the equal of the modern fast battleships in everything but speed.
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>>156802785
British flak tower tier superstructure is based desu senpai
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>>156802623
this desu

A E S T H E T H I C C
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>>156802725
Theres no beautiful high detailed Nelson in game yet ;-;

But I do have this
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>>156802774
All of victory belles designs look the exact fucking same, and none of them make sense.
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>>156802974
I know, right? At least they're not as bad as in that chink knock-off.
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>>156802941
agreed, they resemble floating castles
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>>156803161
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>>156802862
It would be absolute cheating to put the West Virginia in at tier VII with her sistership(s)
>Vastly improved torpedo belt
>Improved armor
>Turrets with dual purpose 5in guns
>More AA guns
>Advanced radar
I would love to see her in game but I don't know if she would work at Tier VIII, there's just no way to get around that 21 knot top speed. If they gun range and accuracy was buffed from the regular Colorado it might work.
Hell, I'd buy her just to have her.
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>>156802142
Disgusting slavic antialiasing. Why it's so shitty?
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>>156803625
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>>156803625
WeeVee with radar consumable.
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>>156804008
DD players would be livid. A BB detecting them, dodging or soaking up their torps, and then gunning them down with the secondary battery.
I'd love it. Since she would probably be a tier VIII, I could take the time to wreck a Fuso with accurate fire. God, I really want the WeeVee in game.
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>>156803161
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>>156802623
I still wonder to this day what were they smoking when they built the Fusous.
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>>156804761
manlet issues
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>>156804761
Taller tower = longer sight/firing range over the curvature of the earth.

Yes, it looks stupid. No, they were not being completely retarded.

Their reliance on optical rangefinding and fire control did eventually end up biting them in the ass though when the US started actually using their radar fire control effectively.
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>removed from the game in a single salvo

Remind me why people play CAs again.
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>>156805663
Fires
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>>156805663
Because they're not shit and know how to dodge and how to not place themselves in situations where they're likely to get hurt badly.

In other words,____git____gud____
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>>156796913

>Talking shit about based Alfa

It was a torpedo that fired smaller torpedoes. Also had an insane nuclear reactor.
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>>156805534
But the BBs that came after Fusou did not have such a tall pagoda. Did they give up on the idea?
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>>156805663
Because they're fun
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>>156806831
>Loud as hell
>Reactor had to be kept warm
>Could not perform maintenance on reactor
>Made of expensive titanium alloys
>Obsolete as soon as new American and British torpedoes were designed and built
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>>156797028

>Zumwalt class destroyer
>600ft long
>15,000 tons
>destroyer

It's bigger than the HMS Dreadnought
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Let's play a game /wowsg/
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>>156808169
chain_chomp
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>>156807981
>814 feet long
>27,000 tons
>destroyer
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>>156808254
I don't see the problem
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>>156807397
>did not have such a tall pagoda

Except they did.

Fuso's pagoda only looks taller because it's skinner. Most of them were of very similar height. IIRC Yamato's primary rangefinders were even higher above the waterline than Fuso's.
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>>156808169
easy, HP
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>>156808769
We have a winner.
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>>156808254
Helicopter destroyer, its like an LHA but only for helicopters and VTOL craft,, its perfectly legit
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>>156808254
>Year 2016 of the Common Era
>feet
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>>156808254
>momma boat nursing its young.jpg
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>>156808254
Yep, it's clearly a destroyer.
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>>156797028
This thing looks hideous. Like a floating metal pyramid. Fucking stealth ruined bote aesthetics.
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>>156810903
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>>156810903
Is merely little DD please do not ask more questions.
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>>156807397

The later ships were faster and likely being as top heave as the Fuso was a stability issue. Pagoda height correlated with speed.
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>>156811759
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>>156812003
Is this T10 soviet bomber, comrade?
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>>156812003

Man I would kill for an airship version of world of warships, something in the vein of that or Leviathian, or Last Exile.
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>tip: avoid collisions with allied warships
So colisions with enemy warships are okay, yes?
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>>156812516
If you feel like dying. It's practically guaranteed to kill both ships, regardless of health, unless you're a DD slamming into a BB. It's still an amazing tactic at times though to trade your low health ship for a full health enemy.
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>>156812516
Yes. It is most honorabu way of killing enemy.
After fire judging by IJN CA
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>>156779425
Slay is a reroll, wave isn't.
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>>156812639

You can also trade tiers. A tier V BB ramming a tier VII is normally a good trade.
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>>156812516
yes
kamikazeing into an enemy ship and taking some yankees with me is the best way to go desu.
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>>156812516
Collisions with enemy warships are recommended.
But only if you are low on health and you must be divved with someone who will scream WITNESSED
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>>156811759
Why did they turn Fuso's 3 turret around but not Yamashiro's?
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>>156780652
>It's a "CV stays at max possible range not doing anything and talking about how the rest of the team are a bunch of noobs and shitters while rest of the team is fighting and wins the battle" episode.
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>>156813449
I wonder who is behind this post.
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>Furutaka only has one torp launcher per side

This is a source of pure agony for me
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>>156813829
Just realised what my post implied. Not talking about the poster I quoted, just adding in to his experience of shitters I've experienced.
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>>156814636
>I only have 8 of the best torps at T6 at T5 a bloo bloo bloo
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>>156813829
>>156814871

And I meant the shitter was in a cruiser, not a carrier.

Fuck, I need some sleep.
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>>156814983
But can only fire 4 at a time.

The amount of retarded ass baBBies I could've killed if the torpedo launchers could fire over both sides of the ship would be absurd.
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Whats the best ship in the game and why is it the Bismark?

>tfw having fun in ranked
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>>156811251
>Fucking stealth ruined bote aesthetics.

that it did
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>>156812357
>maps are a bunch of floating sky islands

cant have open sky now can we, too confus )))))))
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>>156815804
>>156811251
Tactical advantages>Aesthetics
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>>156815804

>you'll never follow a Battlship in to her final mooring

it hurts to live
>>
Think the scharnhorst will go back on sale on NA?
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>>156812731
>wave isn't.
???
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>>156817321
Playing on two accounts on two regions since the game went OBT isn't a "reroll" you dumb shitposter.
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>>156817389
But wave stopped playing his EU account when he opened his NA one, which was done well after game went live.

No different from slay/stay
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>>156817548
Prove it then.
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>>156817389
No need to get angry wave.
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>>156817548
he actually made his account on EU and NA during OBT at the same day and played regularly on both accounts until February or so. Besides, if that is a reroll, then you might as well claim that CBTfags are rerolls too.
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>>156811251
Zumwalt looks like someone mixed a Civil War Ironclad with an Imperial Star Detroyer. Which is awesome, it would be even better if they put some gold on her and made her look like a part of the Great White Fleet.

>>156815804
The Iowas were beautiful ships. The era of the battleship had to end and it could not have ended on a better note.
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>>156817601
I'm not autistic enough to go search the archives. But he didn't play his NA account too much while he was on EU, and he stopped playing entirely on EU after he began playing on NA. It was around that time when he began begging for free premium and ships.

I don't care enough about this whole thing to keep up a discussion. I'm just stating a well known fact for any oldfags. I'm not gonna stop you from pushing this "not a reroll" lie around in hopes that it gets accepted as the truth.

I'm sure greg remembers very well
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https://youtu.be/LwUsb-C8Cyo?t=318

Arlios <3
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>>156819382
woah sugoi
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>>156819382
>>156819679
do ur shilling on reddit pls
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>>156818326
>I'm not autistic enough to go search the archives.
But clearly you are because you care about this more than anyone else and you're too dumb to navigate through Wargaming's website. It took me less than one minute to visit WoWs@NA and WoWs@EU, it clearly says both of his accounts were made last year, at the exact same day during OBT. If he had actual <60% win rate on his main account and recently made a new account on NA/EU, then I'd agree with you about him being a reroll.

>>156815804
>that one car that looked at the battleship and caused a traffic jam
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>>156819816
>He created his account at X date
>It must surely mean he started playing at that same date!
Wrong.
>>
>>156819382
I fucking hate you and will never watch your shitty videos.
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You're out sailing with your bote gf and you look out to your starboard side with binocs and spot this on the horizon

wat do you do
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>>156820504
Radio that bigger ships are coming and watch him an hero.
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So besides the fact that a bunch of slavs made a better movie in 5 days with no real ships than Hollywood did in a year with a real (and totally wrong) ship and a plane (that they fucking crashed and destroyed), does anyone recognize this guy's VA? The voice is so familiar but I can't place where I've heard it before.
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>>156820504
Laugh and keep sailing.
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You're in port and this guy slaps your botefu's ass.

What do you do?
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>>156821247
Scuttle.
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>>156821247
Destroy his entire country.
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>>156821247
Say hello to my little friend.

>>156819974
>no proof
>more bold accusations
Put on the tin foil!
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>>156821668
Why was Bofors so good?
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>>156820915
Hotel is beautiful
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>>156821879
Shell large enough to destroy/disable a plane with a single hit, range long enough to do it before hes running into you or dropping his torpedo, good rate of fire, and essentially no reload time as the shell clips can be loaded while the gun is still firing.

Unlike another certain nations main AA gun.
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>>156821879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KsXYK_CNoQ
meme ammo that murricams could actually produce
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>>156822118
Certainly helps that the mount wasn't totally useless garbage like the 25mm one was too.
Still a neat looking little contraption though.
>>
Those stupid magazines that are exhausted after a few seconds and then need to be replaced. Japanese AA was terrible.
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>>156824108
I liked the quad 1.1 inch mounts more. It looks like a steel press machine or something.

it actually worked fine as well, it was just obsolete when the war began
>>
>>156824485
are you talking about bofors with their amount of shells that is bigger than imperial size measurement of average american penis? huuuh?
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>>156821653
This is the only viable option to take
>>
>>156824547
>worked fine.
tell that to literaly every carrier like the hornet with them that got riggidy rekt by nipnong aircraft early war
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>>156824951
????????
>>
If I want silly AA when I get to my North Cal, should I grab AFT or Manual AA for my first 4 pointer?
>>
>>156825086
Everyone got fucking rekt by planes early war, because nobody had ENOUGH AA. The gun is fine, the problem is that when you only have 4 or 6 of them on a massive fucking ship.
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>>156825449
1.1 inch shell like american penis. worthless do nothing die yourself right now in shame.
>>
>>156825545
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>156825319
You can mount the AA range mod to get decent range without AFT, and manual really fucking chews up planes.
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>>156825591
oh look american baby cry like woman now that he get called on.
>>
>>156824951
I was talking about the Jap 25mms. Meant to reply originally to >>156824108
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>>156825545
Bofor was 1.1?
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>>156825835
chicagoi pianist wasn't bofor moron
>>
>Mission 22: Escorting Edingburgh

Hardest godamn mission I've played yet in AF. Edingburgh is already crippled when you start out so only the B turret works, and the 2 destroyers towing her are outgunned by the 3 german DD's.

Tough fight, basically a draw with the Royal Navy on the losing end.
>>
>>156825940
Just further proof how absolutely outskilled germans got.
>>
>>156826107
Well I performed worse than the RN did in real life, they only damaged Forester, mine was sunk
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1-5 sell hinden to rebuy fletcher
6-0 keep hinden
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>>156827543
Why not keep both?
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>>156827565
cruiser are for homo's right now.
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>>156828556
Why's that?
>>
>>156828586
babby can't stand him
>>
Is the Tirpitz really not worth getting anymore? I could use a credit maker and something to train German captains until the Scharnhorst returns.
>>
>>156829046
Tirpitz vs Scharn

Which one?
>>
>>156830529
Scharn
cheaper and isn't overshadowed by it's tech tree counterpart
>>
>>156830595
But does the Bismark existing make the Tirpitz shit? It wasn't nerfed, right?
I'm just sick of tier 2 battles in the Emden
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>>156831856
Nah, it's the same as it was before, it's just that there's nothing really it does special anymore, the Scharn has something going for it that you can't get in one of the free ships. The Tirpitz just doesn't have anything really going for it that makes it stand out as being worth playing over its T8 BB counterparts, but if you like German BBs and are only interested in the crew training and stuff then the Tirpitz will do the job fine.
>>
WEW

>NC and Washington sight the enemy fleet and open fire on Tirpitz - the primary objective
>all 3 CVE's make smoke and maneuver behind the BB's so for awhile its just all BB's firing at each other
>NC lands some hits on Tirpitz
>dive bombers from CVE's ready to launch
>after a few waves one delivers the final killing blow, Tirpitz is sinking
>immediately Gneisenau, Prinz Eugen and the 2 DDs make smoke and change course to disengage
>the US Navy, emboldened continues to fire through their smoke striking some minor hits on Prinz Eugen
>at this point getting ready to head back home leaving the Kriegsmarine running with their tails between their legs
>decide to do a last dive bomber run on PE before I recover the planes
>very first wave strikes a killing blow to her magazines with a massive fireball and Prinz Eugen is sinking
>even I'm taken aback a bit as that feels like a really dick move and wasn't even the primary objective but now the opportunity is too good to miss
>Gniesenau immediately stops making smoke, changes course and fires on NC
>1 German DD leaves the battle, the other over where Tirpitz is sinking makes smoke and is fleeing
>Washington and NC engage at distance
>CVE's recover planes and prepare for second attack wave
>Washington, NC and Gniesenau all trading shots
>Gniesenau makes smoke and changes course to disengage
>keep firing through smoke landing some hits
>send first waves of dive bombers
>3rd wave deals another killing blow, bombs igniting her forward magazine
>CVE's recover planes
>Washington and NC turn their guns on the 1 fleeing DD making smoke and far away
>shells splash close to her
>last dive bomber attack misses her bow by a few inches
>the DD flees
>return to US as heroes
>>
>>156832479
That isn't World of Warships.
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>>156829046
Tirpitz is still a solid ship and great moneymaker. The reason you'd buy her is to have a strong source of income, not a ship with unique playstyle.
>>
>>156832613
okay, "unique playstyle" wasn't a thing I was after. Just credits, German crew training that doesn't piss me off and a ticket into ranked past rank 15
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>>156832551
Yeah its something even better
>>
Tirpitz a good.
>>
>>156833097
Then maybe it should be taken to its general thread.
>>
>>156833097
is it only RN vs KM?
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>>156834293
>RN v KM
>plane with US roundel

You tell me
>>
>>156834786
Plons aren't botes
>>
>>156832479
Game looks fun, i checked out a few videos on jewtube.

Is it gud ?
>>
Kongo is shit. The dispersion is wack as fuck. Everyone who ever said it was good can go fuck themselves.
>>
>>156834293
Yeah the only US ships are 2 North Carolina class and a fuckton of Bogue class CVEs, and I guess the troop transports.

I wish Pacific Fleet would be ported to PC already, and then if you have both you can have custom battles with all the ships of each navy present.
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>>156838643
Anon I think you might just be shit at this game.
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>first game in completely stock Bisko
She's alright, I guess.
>>
>>156836032
Yeah, its turn based though, if thats not your thing then you may not like it, I like it though it manages to work somewhat.

I pirated it because I wasnt sure if I would like it, now after playing it for total of 10 hours I'm gonna support the devs and buy it because I want them to port Pacific Fleet to PC eventually.

Desu I'm having way more fun with this than WoWS despite the simpler and much lower poly graphics and models compared to WoWS, its also less stressful though - unless you turn on wind affecting player shells option.
>>
>every other ship line 60% win rate
>russian shipline
>30%

Fuck everything.
>>
>>156839701
cyka))))))))
>>
SUMMONING CHAIN

DONT GO TO SLEEP JUST YET
>>
ded
we're all ded
just like our botes
>>
>>156838643
I don't know why people profess that kongo is so good. She's not bad but her light broadside and middling accuracy aren't the hallmarks of an excellent ship kongo dess
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>>156840482
He's dead, Jim.
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>>156841418
Extremely popular bote thanks to botesluts and originally her only counterpart was the New York, which had a playstyle (aggression, whilst using your armor to tank hits) most people weren't comfortable with.

Now you've got shit like the Texas which CVs stay absolutely clear of and Konig which is impossible to citpen, the bongo's flaws start to become more apparent. Furthermore, thanks to MM, you'll be seeing a lot more T7 matches while you're stuck as a T5.
>>
>>156830529
Scharn, its probably the most fun ship I have period. I confidently wade into 2 or 3 enemy ships and kill them all regularly. I even hunt DDs in it without fear.

Tirp is good, but MM can screw you with T10s and it is far more vulnerable to DDs than Scharn. Tirp will make more credits if you have an amazing game, but Scharn makes more consistent credit profits.

>>156841418
The speed is what makes her so good. Positioning is key in a BB and she can both get to the vital map points, and run away when outmatched where the slow BBs are just fucked.
>>
>>156841418
Combination of being a big upgrade over the Myogi and because back in the day she was relatively better than she is now.
>>
I love you, /wowsg/!
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>be BB fighting another BB
>surrounded by cruisers
>tailed by DD's firing torpedoes
>get torped because cruisers are only paying attention to the BB
>>
Whose dick do I have to suck for an NA referral code?
>>
>>156842694
http://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/g2W4nb9
Enjoy, kiddo...
>>
>>156842694
http://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/Nr7bQPQ
Mine is better
>>
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>>156842608
Same desu.
/wowsg/ is pretty cool
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>>156843020
This guy gets it for not calling me kiddo
>>
>>156843521
I'm sure it was nothing personnel, kid...
>>
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>Play Bismarck
>Fire nothing but AP
>Light 8 fires through the match
>>
Thanks so much to the anon that gave me tips for playing IJN DDs a couple of weeks ago. I'm currently grinding the Minekaze and it's been very fun, even in Tier VII matches. People say it gets quite bad after the Mutsuki though, how true is that? I want to reach Fubuki at least before they introduce the new DDs.
>>
>>156843837
mutsuki is ok if you have a 15 pt captain with CE, else its torture because of the significantly longer torp reload and inferior 3x2 setup.
>>
>>156844762
>>156844762
>>156844762
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