/acg/ - Armored Core General - Best Boy Edition

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um, bump?

Good job Xez, you made the bread spoil.
At least you have some good animu reaction faces I guess

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>>156648772
Yeah, my bad. I went to eat dinner.

>>156649068
>likes "you x you lose" threads
>eats dinner away from computer
Normals out reeee

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>>156649863

>>156650067
What does that image convey even

>>156650254
It means oh well in my head.

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Thanks for the help, I finally made it. I installed windows movie maker in order to figure out how to do it. It came out great.

>>156645890
How long until we have another long lived thread?

>>156650254
For me it means "what do you want me to do?" in a sarcastic way.

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>>156654698
Don't worry you can put the thread on my back. I'll carry us to 750 post limit.

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>>156654997
Oh really? then start giving ous a topic to talk about.

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>>156655436
Alright. Favorite emblems from the AC series?

Obviously nineball-sama.

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>>156655708
Jack-O, I love the whole design.

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>>156656942

So, who else /abouttobekilledbyhurricane/ here? Because I'm freaking out.

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>>156661071
I live at the bottom of Virginia so that shit won't be nearly as bad when it hits me. Stay safe out there Penny.

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>>156661071
Survive Penny, I know you can.

It would be sad if something happen to you, and there is no way for ous to know.

>>156661184

Thanks for the support.

>>156661298

>It would be sad if something happen to you, and there is no way for ous to know.
Well, if I never post again, I think that'll be a tell of what happened. Fortunately, if it doesn't take out the power, i can update my status.

Here's the link to the webm I made.

>>156664480
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1475729172275.webm

Is it possible for full unac teams to compete with ravens in vd?

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>>156664563
>Gesaffelstein
Xez, you are officially my nigga.

>>156664856
If the UNACs are really good and the Operator knows what they're doing, it's possible. The main problem is that the guy running a UNAC squad probably won't get as much opportunity as regular players to practice what he does, so it's harder to reach that skill level. But when someone does get that good and knows how to exploit the AI and optimize UNAC builds, they're pretty viable in PVP.

>>156664856
>are your UNACs really good?
>is the enemy team kinda bad?
>are the UNACs all utilizing maximum boring shitlord meta setups?
>did you successfully counterbuild your enemy?
>do you have an Operator?
If at least two are true, you have a decent shot.

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>>156665756
How would you rate it from 1/10. I had to remake it because I didn't sync the headbob to the beat the first time I made the webm. I sped up the frames to x1.40.

>>156666505
The headbob sync is the only real problem. Aside from that, I don't care much for music webms that much, so I'm not too sure how to rate it.

10/10 for good taste in music though.

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>>156666585
I love Gesaffelstein. I got all of his music.

Thanks for the critique.

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Fresh OC bump.

>>156666758
As a German, "Gesaffelstein" sounds fucking hilarious

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>>156679307
How come?

>>156664856
>>156665756
>>156665984

You don't necessarily need an operator. 3 UNACs + 1 human performs better against most teams than 4 UNACs. This is because if the opponent has a SINGLE melee player, the UNACs are all fucked.

No amount of good operating will stop a decent kickbot or kumorabi. It's just not possible, UNACs have literally no programming defense against melee attacks other than to counter-kick, which fails often.

So having 3 UNACs + 1 player let's the player bait the opponent and

Likewise, since UNACs will FOLLOW the human player no matter what until they get a target, having a human on the ground instead of an operator lets you position them early based on the map, instead of having them just bumble around until enemies come into range.

Basically, here is how you win with UNACs:

1. Give them only targeting range equivalent to their attacking range, so that they don't focus on targets way out of range or behind walls. Give them focused targeting also.

2. Position them so that you're in the middle at the start of the match. That way they 'cluster' around you as soon as possible, and then walk them over to a safe area where you can ambush/defend yourself properly.

3. Run varied defense and weapon types. Laser quad, BR heavy, sniper RJ, etc. You can program UNACs to have freakishly good reaction time and evasion.

3. Focus ENTIRELY on killing the first melee or weakest players on the enemy teams. This is 90% of the battle. If you can bait the weakest player to rush forward, then you can SURROUND them with 4 ACs and kill them in seconds. Once that's done, it's now a 3v4 are the odds are definitely in your favor.

4. Next you want to go into a war of attrition. You focus on the next biggest threat and you run back and away and try to isolate them, taking them down. Around this time. The entire goal is that you have 3-4 UNACs at half health while they have 2 ACs at full health.

>>156685972
5. By now they will certainly be trying to take you down since you have UNAC command, or they will be trying to get boxes so that they can cheese the match. This is where you basically use yourself as the bait, letting them chase you (since humans can evade much better). Pop back in to take a heavy hit and conserve your AP. Ideally, if they fall for it, you'll have them chasing you down, focused on killing you, while getting shot from behind by your UNACs.

6. At this point, you'll probably be low on AP or dead. No fear though, because by now you have 2 or 3 UNACs against 1 or 2 human players, and their biggest threats are already eliminated. As long as you got enough boxes to avoid losing a time-out, your win is near guaranteed since the UNACs will cluster together and continue focusing on the same enemy, and just grind them down in AP.


UNACs are better at humans at a few things:
1. Reaction time for quickboost/firing
2. Focusing relentlessly on one enemy
3. Winning straight firefights in open areas (esp. if they have extremely good defense)
4. EN management/consistency (you can program exact breakpoints for their behavior based on EN level)

UNACs are terrible at:
1. Avoiding melee death
2. Using cover
3. Chasing enemies

3+1 UNAC setup can do the following, which operator setup cannot:
1. Bait the opponent into killing the human first
2. Have at least one player who can avoid melee and counter melee attackers
3. Have a leader that UNACs will cluster around at the beginning of the match

Also, a few other tidbits:

- If you die, UNACs will continue to focus on whatever AC you last marked for target. This means if you die while there is still 2 enemies, then the marked one can just run away while the unmarked one can kill your UNACs safely.

- In any team battle, having a 3v4 or 2v4 advantage is huge. The way VD is designed, dealing with a 2v1 scenario where the other two have half AP is harder than a 1v1 scenario where the enemy has full AP. So if you have 4 UNACs vs 2 humans, even though humans are better, as long as one of them isn't a kickbot or built to cheese UNACs,

- Never fight the same team twice in a row. Change up your map settings and such between matches so they don't think they're fighting the same enemy. Hard countering UNACs is very easy.

- Try to use ONLY maps you choose yourself. The most UNAC-friendly maps are in the mid-continent. This is because you have a lot of open areas with few places for the UNACs to get "caught up" on. So set your team region to that area, and then always pick 'defense' for your sortie parameters to guarantee that they fight on your terms. Program and build your UNACs for that map.

>>156663803
Yeah, but take Vass for example, what happen to him?

Anyways, if things get ugly, just invoke the mole in you and start digging.

>>156686847
Vass is okay, he's just taking a break from robots for a bit.

>>156686847

I'd love to B+, but I'm at sea level already. If I start digging, I'll just hit water.

>>156688901
If you dont say, at least I, would live in the dark about him.

>>156689149
damn it Penny

*praying intensifies*

>>156680008
It's a non word mixed with a word.

>>156661071
Bullcrap, you're not allowed to die to a hurricane. I expressly forbid it.
Especially after all the
>Pendragon protects
shenanigans from when I killed Urist and Soren with Excalibur Mk. 3.
On top of that, that Chromestrike game I'm running? You are far and away their favorite NPC. To the point that there's an important plot point that has your NPC away for a long time and they're worried about what might have happened.
On that note:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/06/496836153/millions-of-coastal-residents-warned-to-flee-inland-as-hurricane-nears-florida
Start packing up everything you want to keep and take the governor's advice. The sooner you start the more you can pack and the less traffic you have to deal with.
>>156685972
>3. Run varied defense and weapon types. Laser quad, BR heavy, sniper RJ, etc. You can program UNACs to have freakishly good reaction time and evasion.
It's worth noting that running three super defensive fortress quads and giving them high power weapons works just on most maps assuming there's no melee in play.

>>156694390

Oh right, I forgot that you made me an NPC in Chromestrike. That's flattering that they like me/him. Thanks man.

Anyway, if worse comes to worse, I'm just gonna abandon ship and move to a safer province. I'll report in as soon as possible, I promise.

>>156691217
And "Gesaffel" is like the best combination of letters I've heard all year. There's a bunch of uncommon words in German that are similar to it, all nouns describing some activity (Gesabbel, Geplänkel...). And Stein is just so generic. I dunno, I just really like that word

>>156694989
My thoughts are with you friend
But I fear there's only one way for you to make it.

Do you have a target gun at home?

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>>156694390
How is that Chromestrike game going anyway? Anything interesting happen lately?

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>>156694390
Penny is so cool and moe that even as a NPC everybody likes him.

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I recently played pic related. What a good game.

Replaying AC4A now, man I really hope they go back to this speed and style of game but I'd really like to see them incorporate some of the squad based stuff from 5, like co-op/vs co-op oriented missions where you can use niche builds like missile batteries or sniper cannon platforms to support your other teammates from range

I think it'd be interesting to see how a new AC title does state side with the recognition From now has from the Souls series. Never really understood why AC wasn't more popular, do the lists of numbers really scare people off or what

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You guys have inspired me to try and finally finish AC1. I'm starting with a fresh save for the full experience, then going through the other PS1 era games.

Anything I should know going in? I've always been terrible at the first gen games for some reason. I might just do a Human+ playthrough so I can finally beat this game and be done with it, I've been struggling at it off and on for almost 20 years now.

Gonna play on an emulator since my PS1 died a couple years ago.

>>156694390
Unfortunately if you run 3 fortress quads all it takes is for one half decent sniper or Karasawa build to take down half of your team. You vary the defenses to hedge your bets against losing 2-3 of your ACs to 1 enemy, who happens to just show up with the right build.

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>>156726660
Maybe I'll try the sniper cannon if we hit them on a map that's favorable. I'm not expecting much, though, since they're all packing minisawas and the guy using them has a midsawa and piles.
>>156701001
Well, I gave them a few choices of mission and they wanted to go with the boss man on his trip to convene with the other major PMC leaders.
On the way they ran into pic related, who traded their MTDs for mechs.
With missiles.
Several missiles.
But they all got wrecked and that's where we've left off and there's no session this week due to more important matters. It's the annual pancake night at the cafeteria.

What are your favorite weapons and weapon types in AC1?

Normally I just do trial and error but money is really limited early on, I'm just looking for opinions from other Ravens. I refuse to use a guide for this game. Unless there's some broken and obscure bullshit that forces me too, but I don't think AC has ever had that.

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If this post is still the most recent one the next time this thread reaches page 10, Celebrity Ash is officially the king of /acg/.

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>>156738524
Nah he wont.

>>156738524

[Pendragon]

Not while I have a phone to post from, Celebrity Trash.

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>AC1
>Defend the freight train
What the fucking shit is the purpose of even having Armored Cores when these Ace Combat motherfuckers outclass me in every way imaginable? How are you even meant to beat this mission? The fighters are impossible to track and take down, and when the enemy AC shows up he just intagibs the train. If he actually bothers to fight you he just stunlocks you, THEN goes and instagibs the train. And even if he doesn't stunlock you, you're still getting assraped by the fighter planes.

Someone please send help, I haven't been this mad since Arteria Carpals on hard.

>>156742729

Machine gun and a preferably long range FCS. You'll lose some of the train, but you'll kill the guy and the fighters without taking much damage.

The secret is that you have to use yourself as a shield and get everyone's attention away from the lead car.

>>156736189
The karasawa is hidden the mission where you destroy those fuel tanks (or chemical tanks, I can't remember). It'll behind a group of them.

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>>156743134
>Machine gun
>mfw
Holy fuck it actually worked, thank you based anon.

>>156743280
Neat, thanks for the tip. Didn't even know this game had weapons hidden throughout the maps. Is it just the Sawa or are there other hidden goodies?

I'm about to do that mission now, I'll see if I can find it.

>>156743805
I think it's at the very end.
take out the enemies but ignore the other groups of tanks on the sides while heading your way there. You should see it after you've destroyed the tanks at the end.

>>156645890
bumped

>that one random starship troopers mission
Why is AC1 so based?

>>156732389
dual snipers will out damage a sniper cannon unless you're hitting >50% of the time with your sniper cannon shots.

Dual kumoriyo on 350 range FCS and highest firing stability arms is probably the most reliable sniper damage beyond 300m. Dual zlatkos / 3700 damage snipers within that range. I don't really advocate sniper cannons unless you're really practiced with them.

One thing about UNACs is that they only charge up their laser rifles if they have an active target. So most people program them to fire the laser rifles 'early' so that they dont' waste time charging up. This lowers laser rifle velocity, so it makes their range limited. Since there's no long range TE weapons that don't require charging up, that means UNACs have very weak long range TE damage. Stay out of 300m range and the quads will go down to snipers. At close range, pulse guns and out-turn them.

It's face-to-face encounters at mid range on flat areas where UNACs are actually really good, since that's when reaction time matters more than strategy.

Does anybody actually still play VD in here?

>>156751026
Quite a few people, though it depends on what server you're on.

I don't think there's any serious teams anymore though.

>>156751026
I just picked the game up yesterday

Speaking of VD, someone asked about doing some coop on 360 a couple weeks ago. My internet is unfucked if you're still lurking somewhere.

>playing bioweapon missions in AC1
>realize 4 and V era didn't capitalize on the obvious "Kojima Mutant" subplot that could have been a thing
So much wasted potential. Maybe they'll do something like that in AC6?

>AC6

>>156758194
I don't think I would have wanted this subplot. It wouldn't fit with the rest of the game in my opinion.

>>156769046
>VERY fast Aaliyah boosting at incredible hihg speed

>>156758194
>>156760660
We got plenty of bioweapon stuff in 3rd gen. Nexus and SL especially.

>>156758194
V and VD had the unmaned weapons that were gigant eyes with tentacles, I think they look organic enough to give that image.

>>156778791
Yes, but it wouldn't really fit 4th gen. Especially FA where literally everything is desert.

>>156788153
bamp

Does AC1 have any sort of branching mission trees or anything? I really want to fuck Chrome's shit up for all this bioweapon dickery but there are times when I have no choice but to take missions from them.

Then again, it is hilarious ruining their shit and then being contracted by them to fix everything. Playing both sides is pretty great.

>>156661071
how dangerous is hurricane anyways?

>>156794507
Very.
So, Matthew is a category 3 hurricane. According to the NOAA, that means it has sustained wind speeds of 178 to 208 km/h. If it were just wind, this wouldn't be so bad. As you know, coastal states account for wind loads of that caliber and are built around them. What you can't account for is a palm tree being uprooted and slammed into your building. Or a mailbox. Or other heavy things.
They also bring rain. Lots and lots and lots of rain. Heavy flooding occurs, which is one of the main reasons bowls like New Orleans get absolutely bodied by hurricanes.
The biggest issue, however, is storm surge. I don't know what the coasts of Georgia and South Carolina are like, but Florida's hits a steep drop pretty quickly, which helps offset some of the surge damage. Places with a smooth incline like Louisiana have a lot more to worry about. Anyway, storm surge. Basically, while the hurricane is out at sea, it'll trap water in a vicious swirl, It'll sit there and build energy until it finally gets strong enough to escape the vortex and head inland where it'll combine with the usual tide. This can result in a wall of water that easily exceeds 4.5 meters.
For the record, Katrina was seeing storm surges in excess of 8 meters.
I'm sure I don't need to tell you what happens when a ~5 meter tall wall of water crashes ashore.
Anyway, hurricanes weaken as they move inland, so the coasts get pounded the hardest. There'll still be damage a ways inland, but it gets progressively weaker and weaker.

tl;dr High wind speeds + extreme flooding + 5 meter walls of water hitting the shore at high speeds = bad news bears
>>156749615
>I don't really advocate sniper cannons unless you're really practiced with them.
Crap, man. Right in the heart.

>>156803831
>tfw never experienced any natural disasters over here in comfy old country, except for seeing a super tiny tornado once
I feel so pampered and boring.

>>156808985
Living in a country with small and no small earthquakes all year round, creates a population that can guess the magnitude of a earthquake with incredible accuracy; usually on Ritcher scale.

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Plenty more to come.

>>156831620
Can you make one of Last Raven. Mainly the part where the attacking AC shoots his laser cannon.

>>156831859
You got it.

Also, it's a railgun.

>>156834717
it has been a long time since I played LR, I dont remember all the weapons.

But I remember the PIXIE machinegun serie, really good weapons.

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>>156837160
>>156837285
Ignore both of these.

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Hey /acg/, Roy here. Not that it matters, but if you guys are still doing SNFA I haven't been attending, and most likely won't be, because I just started a new job and I pretty much only work weekends. Sorry, I'll still lurk in the gen

/penny/

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>>156839482
Don't worry Roy. $$$ is more important then SNFA.

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>>156839771
>Typical

>>156839482
just bump anytime you see page 10 Roy.

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>>156841060
I thought you were the dedicated bumper

>>156840203
>>156840720
What does the beetle mean?

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>>156841060
I made your railgun webm ranker.

>>156841172
In my opinion I think the beetle represents survival.

>>156841158
As much I would like, I cant be here 24/7

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>>156841192
Thanks Xez senpai.

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>>156840203
>>156840720
>>156841558
>>156841771


The memories

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>>156842063
I'm glad that i'm making this content for the general.

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Night.

Penny you better keep ous informed on your situation if you can.

>>156845250
pen iz ded

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>>156845459

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>>156846543
Nice webms. Could you do some gameplay ones? I don't think I've ever even seen AC gameplay webms from any AC games.

>>156847506
Link me some high quality youtube links and i'll see what I can do.

>>156847684
If you're alright with japcancer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dONbT1ZKdoY

This channel is full of AC stuff though, not just FA

>>156848615
Oh shit, if you're not planning on it already, could you do one where the AALIYAH eye looks over to the camera? Always thought that would be good webm material.

>>156848903
Bueno, I think you should have included the extra two or so seconds after where it zooms in and glows though.

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>>156849192

>>156849602
>>156849346
Noice

Anyone know a good free file dump website? I could use one once i'm done with all of the webms and people can download them in bulk.

>>156848132
I tried to do it but the file is just too big and I don't want to split up the video into multiple parts.

>>156853283
I believe Imgur supports WebMs and bulk upload/download.

>>156779679
Giant Sandworm vs Next