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Dueling Network/Yu-Gi-Oh! General #2325
Last thread : >>156446702


● YGOPro is an automated simulator.

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Useful Links:
Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/
OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists
TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/
Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/
Official /dng/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Raging Tempest (October 8th)
●OCG: Booster SP: Fusion Enforcers (November 12th)
●OCG: Dimension Box Limited Edition (November 26th)

●TCG: Legendary Decks II (October 7th)
●TCG: Structure Decks Yugi Muto and Seto Kaiba (October 21st)
●TCG: Invasion: Venom (November 4th)
●TCG: Destiny Soldiers (November 17th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP.
● Read the cards.
● Lurk and read the archives.
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above.
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play.
● If you want to improve, netdeck and playtest constantly.
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Xth for Dinomist support next set!
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1st for Spyrals
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waifu
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C O C K
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Has anyone tried a pure Metalfoes deck?
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>>156511797
Waifu sleeves on the way, hopefully in time for my Regional.
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>>156511649
SPYRAL META
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A
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M
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A
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>>156511836
Define pure.
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>>156511886
Literally only metalfoes cards, not even staples allowed.
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F U C K M A L I C I O U S
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Best fu.
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>>156511928
That's impossible, you would be 10 cards short of a deck.
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>>156511928
Invalid deck.
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>>156511968
Better fu.
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>>156511928
Would there even be enough to fill a 40 card deck?
Honestly I like to play them more or less pure, their Field Spell is AMAZING. It's a tragedy nobody uses it.
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>>156512054
Nope >>156512019
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Where were you when Spyral becomes NK tier?

Any reveal yet?
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>envoy of the end is unlimited in japan
why WHY is the tcg ban list so fucked? it really makes no sense
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>>156512146
What do Spyrals even do?
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>>156512196
Abuse Machine Dupe and then dies. Hopefully theese cards will give them some sort of game plan.
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>>156512196
Spam Quik-Fix, and maybe swing for game with Agent.
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>>156511876
soon i will tell subterrorfags to APOLOGIZE
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>>156512146
My guess, the Waitress tutors Agent, the Boss lady snipes cards from the hand ala Mind Crush and can special Quick Fix, the stun glove is a Gear card that removes monsters from play until the End Phase, and the last one is a generic Searcher for a Spyral monster.
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>>156512146
No, they said they would reveal who got the most votes today and the rest over 6 days. AKA we're probably getting the Waitress today.
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>>156511886
Majority Metalfoes monster with no other archetypes like Majespecter
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>>156512535
Does Luster counts?
Gofu?
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I hope Subterror get some cool stuff too. I don't like Spyrals theme at all, it always seem on those two batches TCG archetypes we get something colorful and bright and then something dark.
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>>156512146
Does she take it black?
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>>156513260
all girls do, its a fact
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>>156513150
I'd like to see the new Subterrors too, I'm more interested in giant monsters than spies stuff.
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>>156513150
I wonder if they'll reveal the Subterrors the same way as SPYRALs or just show case them on their website.
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>>156512019
Basic Bitch Metals are basically pop that field out and beat down with Volflames and Ori/Myth.
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>Ancient Gear SD was over a week ago
>0 Ancient Gear tops
ABC players were right, the deck is shit.
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>>156514435
>not alkahest

did you READ the card?
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>>156511858
*sodomises tour guide*
ah yes
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>>156512982
That's about as pure as a whore's anus.
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>>156512427
I feel you are right about all of then except the last one. I feel that its going to be a themed Convulsion of Nature
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>>156507720
dont wanna memetech debris dragon? :v
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you'd think after 2 shitty archetypes koa would have learnt their lesson, right?
I really want spyrals to be good boys
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>>156514710
>Ancient Gear memegiant was short lived

kek
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>>156514730
>beating down with a 0 att monster
Bruh, you summon it on your opponent's turn via the quickplay, you don't fuse it on your own turn.
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>>156514730
>you can equip Alkahest with Union monster, then use it as Fusion material
>you can use Vylon attached to Alkahest as Fusion material
Neat.
Maybe I'll try something with this knowledge.
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>>156514820
I’ve seen people using Box of Friends and Rescue Rabbit in their builds
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>>156514710
>ABC players
Bitch please, everyone knew the deck was shit. Not just ABC players.
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>>156514912
There is a slightly lower chance they won't be shit since instead of one archetype getting 3 cards and the other getting 5 both TCG archetypes are getting 4 each.
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>>156514891
Probably something that helps know what cards the opponent has in hand/will draw, but I feel that they probably will have to add more effects to make knowing stuff that the opponent has worth it. Also will make Forceful Sentry pretty okay too.
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>>156515070
*higher
I can only imagine what would of happened if U.A. had gotten 4 more cards.
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>>156514710
the deck doesnt even have memegiant or hound yet which are its best cards
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>>156515104
It's banned, anon.
Forceful Sentry is fucking powerful.
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What's the general consensus on maxing out break sword in PK-BA? I've got 3, but a few builds I've seen lately only run 2.
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>>156515214
Jikes, I was thinking about that other trap, the Checkpoint one, which depends on knowing what the opponent has on hand.
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>>156515239
You will need that third Break Sword.
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Haha spyral fans thinking it's going to be meta when subterrors will clearly be better haha
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>>156515286
Trap Dustshoot battle trap version?
The sheer fact that it's a battle trap makes it shitty.
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>>156515589
Fine, then I guess we can default to the old Mind Crush, that works too right?
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>>156515487
If this were a quickplay/trap it'd be one of the best cards in the game and easily on the banlist.
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>>156515214
Maybe they should just make themed versions of Forbidden Spells/Traps we all knew and loved
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>>156515589
>the 'battle traps are shitty' meme again
>not running 3x 'heh nice crystal wing kid'
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>>156515693
Mind Crush?
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>>156514813
reported to pegasus
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>>156514813
I stopped caring if people are autistic over muh waifu. I'm just content to have muh sleeves, and the Secret TGU I have in the mail. Maybe one day I'll be able to splurge on an Ulti, since all my $$$ has gone toward preparing for ABCs and the dozen petdecks I'm building.
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>>156515771
Except a million times better.
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>>156515864
>>156511858
Tour guide back to 3 WHEN?

;_;
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>>156515965
When Dante goes to 1. So, never.
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>>156515906
Because it banish your hand instead?
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>>156515864
She isn't even that cute bro
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>>156516438
Now, THAT I have to disagree with.
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I think Percy hates me.
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>>156516484
Nah, she really ain't
There are no good card girls desu
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>>156516580
It's the curse. If you test a new deck, or new tech, you ALWAYS brick first 1-2 times.
>>156516635
There are plenty, you're just not looking hard enough for non-popular waifus.
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>>156516580
I think the shuffling on ygopro is fucked up. The ammount of times I opened 1ofs in a row without opening a single 3of is insane.
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>>156516580
Hahaha fuggg :DDDD
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>>156516635
delete this
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>>156516717
>Crimson Fox still isn't on the TCG

FUCK
U
C
K
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>>156516580
>>156516817
That's why you shuffle your deck first in deck editor, save it, then test it.

It somewhat helps.
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>>156516817
This better have been ABC.
What other deck would you ACTUALLY run more than 1 Terraforming in?
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>>156517012
Any deck that wants it's field spell?
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>>156517012
Any deck with a field spell and chicken game.
Oh wait.
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>>156517012
Lol FUG XDDD
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>>156512054
>their Field Spell is AMAZING
No it's not
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>>156517154
Use GS, discard Jizu.
NS searched GS.
Use Soul Charge, make Infinity.
Set Metal Fusion.
Think for a while, then set 7-1.
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>>156517389
Maybe not in the context of what else the deck is used for, but having all your monsters be immune to everything is nothing to scoff at.
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>>156511649
So why didn't you make a thread using a SPYRAL since they'll be showing off the SPYRAL with the most votes in a little while?
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>>156517419
kill yourself
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>>156514820
Anon, you know that Summoner's Art can only search the level 7, right?
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What deck makes you feel like a JoJo character?
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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Command_Knight
2016 TCG for ant!

>>156511649
Nephilip nooo.
Also nice pass

>>156511876
HOT megane office lady!
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>>156511928
Most people think of 'pure' as not using any other external engines in the deck i.e no Bunbuku -> Kirin stuff, no speedroids, no dracos, just metalfoes and staple cards.
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>>156518897
> feel like a JoJo character?
well thats a completely different one
so used to "jojo.dek when" and having to say arcana force or empowereds
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>>156516825
Why are you posting my waifu?
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>>156519018
>staples

Such as?
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>>156519018
What decks can actually work 100% pure? HEROES? Blackwings? Burning abyss? Raidraptors? I'm already out of ideas.
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>>156519543
Cardians
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>tfw you give Rank10YGO shekels just so you can show him how shit his Batteryman build is compared to yours
If I hadn't, for some reason, clicked Yes on Gofu, I'd have won much sooner, but whatever. He also got triggered over Gofu and Tzolkin being in the decklist, but that was on the stream.
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>>156519543
Fire Fist? They have a lot of cards and most of them are pretty good or at least usable.
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>>156519543
Raidraptors are a pretty good pick desu
Blade Burner Falcon if you need R4 beats and Revolution/Satellite/Ultimate Falcon are easy enough to grab if you need them
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>>156519587
>there's actually enough Cardians to do a 100% archetype deck
Except you don't want to run 3 of most of them. But still, that's neat. It's help the deck in theory, since they don't want to draw non-Cardians.
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>>156519543
Declan's Delayed Demons
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>>156519543
Qlis work 100% pure
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>want to build decks starring hand traps to show off their capabilities
>effect veiler is easily search and recyclable with blue-eyes stuff
>honest can be used and searched every single turn with benten ritual light fairy shit
What can I do with Ghost Ogre?
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>>156519543
Lightsworn

100% pure tourney when?
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>>156520040
E-Tel- oh wait FUCKING KOZMOS
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Tierra in Monster Mash y/y
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>>156520062
when better spectating can be done
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>>156520062
As soon as Minerva gets a release to the public.
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>>156520208
This, ygopro needs to let you spectate in-progress games already.
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>>156520274
I STILL don't understand why it doesn't have it. Devpro managed to do it years ago despite everything else about it being shitty, so what's stopping Percy?
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>>156520274
Devpro can do that.
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>>156520205
New tierra or infernoid tierra?

I don't think monster mash generates enough advantage to use for new tierra unless you get pendulum shit going on. New Tierra works well with shit like tenki or call of the haunted
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>>156519636
I'm currently 2-0 with him, won with Karakuri the first time, Normal Pendulum the second.
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>>156519543
Harpies?
Raidraptor and blackwings were mentioned, might as well suggest the OG "winged beast deck that got hardcore shilled in the anime"
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>>156519491
Solemn brigade, TT/MST/CC/GC, Maxx "C", GOSR/Cherries, Vanity's and other stunshit, etc

>>156519543
A lot of decks function by themselves, it's just that they're usually better when you miix them with other archetypes.

As for your question: D/D, Kozmo, Burning Abyss, Bujin, Igknight, Dinomist, Red-Eyes, Blue-Eyes, Ritual Beast, Yosenju, Tellars, Qli, noids, Lunalight, Fire Kings to name a few.
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I was wondering, why don't they give us something else besides match winners whenever there is a world championship? Like why not not give us a set of mtg unhinged inspired cards? If we can't use the cards in normal games anyway, why not have fun with them. We could have weird wacky trap monster fusions, cards with hilarious lore or wacky effects. Heck why not give us a dark magician ojama or something else completely random. Lets hear your thoughts on this.
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>>156520459
How the fuck are you running blue-eyes and red-eyes pure?
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>>156520459
Some of those dekcs doesn't even have enough cards to work 100% pure. Add staples then sure.
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Soon™
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>>156520423
New Tierra.
I think it's doable, you basically just crap out different names constantly. I'll try it later and report back.
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>>156520515
Thing is, a dark magician ojama is completely within the realm of possibility for this game.
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>>156520404
Shame it's so shit in every other way
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>>156520459
Does this counts as pure Metalfoes?
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>>>/vip/1412
Get in, fags.
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Predator Plant tech?

>inb4 "you can't use the tokens to make Starve Venom idiot" because I already know, but you can still use them to make Chimera Rafflesia
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>>156520808
>foultrolls canon
>that thing next to ariadne
>ariadne
>maxx c
>painful decision
>instant fusion
>pot of desires
>summoners art
>mst
>vanitys emptiness
>strike
>warning
>every single xyz
No, absolutely not
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>>156520804
Why are you using Freezerdong?
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>>156520856
>Error: Only 4chan Pass users can post on this board. [Learn More]
holy shit they actually did it.
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Why are the birbs so cute?
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Legendary decks 2 is shit.
Don't buy it
http://m.imgur.com/a/7aSE3
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>>156520856
What the fuck is this
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>>156520856
I'll never understand Hiro
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>>156520980
>foultrolls canon
>maxx c
>painful decision
>instant fusion
>pot of desires
>summoners art
>mst
>vanitys emptiness
>strike
>warning
>every single xyz
Staples.
>that thing next to ariadne
>ariadne
Not part of any archetype/engine.
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>>156521049
now Red eye fags can stop bitching about a reprint
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>>156520984
Fuck meant to quote this >>156520808
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>>156521142
Exactly, you can't run staples in a 100% pure deck.
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>>156521049
>No sage despite all other cultists
>No alternative
>No ancients to go with legend

Why the FUCK
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>>156520543
Going by the definition in >>156519018 where all of plays are made by in-archetype stuff and the generic cards assist the in-archetype stuff.
Gospel and Dragon Shrine are generic for Dragons, Trade-In is generic, Allure of Darkness/Sacred Star Sword is generic. For the purpose of simplification, we can say that the Eyes of Blue cards are a part of Blue-Eyes in the same way as Fire Formation/Noble Arms/Void.

>>156520808
By definition it must be.

>>156520616
Of course they would be using staples. Pure isn't just "only in-archetype cards nothing else".
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>>156521204
Anon, there's a difference between a pure deck and shit. I'm still going to run 3 Allure of Darkness in a pure phantom knight deck.
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Pendulum Machine took 11 years from OCG to TCG to get printed. Then after 5 years, they reprint this lv6 normal shit for no reason.
>Pendulum Machine
>original name Pendulum Blade Torture Machine
They could retrain it as Machine-support pendulum but no. They reprint it as it


>>156521024
Cute

>>156520856
>Welcome to /vip/, a board for 4chan Pass users. Anyone can view, but only 4chan Pass users can post.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>156521223
>>No alternative
Because it's coming in Movie Pack Gold
>>No ancients
You're blind
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>>156521024
uh
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>>156521024
They just are.
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>>156521202
Crystalzero is worth it.
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>>156521307
We're not going by this >>156519018 definition, we're going by the "literally only cards from the archetype and no other cards allowed" definition. Hence 100% pure, not just regular pure.
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>>156520705
>he is looking towards quick-fix
kek
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>>156521372
it changes around?
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>>156521576
I think that's because you searched the thumbnail actually
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>>156521672
oh yup you right
>smash autists joining
i fear the future
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>>156521325
And there's a difference between regular pure and 100% pure. We are discussing potential 100% pure decks.
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29769878
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>>156521672
>>156521372
Just google the name or if you cant just google ll yugioh
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>>156521825
Smash is equally as autistic as yugioh.
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>>156521957
>equally
no my good sir it is one of the highest forms
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>>156521957
At least Yugioh is an actual representative of its genre.
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>>156521861
>that Phantom Knight deck
out
skilled
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>>156521024

Lyrical Luscinia - Sapphire Swallow
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Just found this old Metal tops.
https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck.fcgi?ListNo=256120

What's the purpose of Metaphys Horus here?
Luster is restricted to Draco only.
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>>156522498
Reader is also a Tuner.
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>>156522498
>Luster is restricted to Draco only.
Have you never seen the Japanese language? Overlords are illiterate, that much is obvious.
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>>156522498
Gaia Drake, really?
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>>156521049
Nah, that's a pretty good deal for $30. It's going to sell like hotcakes.
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>>156522498
>polymerization
neat.
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>>156521223
>>156522791
Hopefully this means Ancients and Dragon Spirit will drop in cost for their original rarities so I can still shiny out my deck. Also Ultra Melody and Maiden are fucking nice.
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>>156522498
>poly
>no metalfoes fusion

what le fug
are overlords that reliant on stunshit and cyber stein

>captcha was a stop sign
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>>156522830
That has got to be mistake. There is no card in the extra, or the side, that Poly could summon that Metalfoe Fusion couldn't. And without Metalfoe Fusion, the deck would only ever have 2 Metalfoe pops, or less if they ever drew one of the two.
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>>156522619
>using side deck Handtrap as tuner instead
You side in Reader only to make Metaphys?
What the hell?
Is Metaphys Horus even worth it?
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>>156516351
>MOOOOOOOOOM, I POSTED IT AGAIN
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>>156521049
Stone of ancients and spirit dragon make the set break even on their own, every DM worshipper will still need the eternal souls.
It's ok, I just hope those unexpected dai go for cheap as I haven't gotten mine yet.
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Flip monsters who can flip themselves to activate their effects under certain conditions when?

To be perfectly honest, I still find it pretty weird how the game made a trend of "hand traps" before making face-down monsters more like traps.
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>>156523731
>he's not into trash posting
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>>156523886
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>>156523886
Activating the effects of face-down monsters has always been rule-iffy.
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>>156524021
You fucking beat me to it, god damn it.
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>>156523886
Hand traps are basically invulnerable and are the natural, power-creeped extension of traps.

Why do you think all good hand traps but Effect Veiler have been secret?
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>>156524021
Oh true. Still though. Why is she the only one?
I imagine they would have made like a dozen or so such cards already. As brought up above, just compare Amaterasu to the number of hand-traps in the game.
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>>156522209
Smash isnt a fighter

>>156522057
Spotted the pleb who cant edge guard
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odds fap
evens sleep
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>>156524189
That's what he meant. Smash isn't a fighter, Yugioh is a TCG.
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>>156524189
what exactly makes smash not a fighting game?
yes I know this is bait
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Here's my darklord deck so far, do i need an extra allure to speed things up or what?
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RATE-JP032 百万喰らいのグラットン Yorozugurai no Guratton (All-Consuming Glutton)
Level 1 DARK Fiend-Type Special Summon Effect Monster
ATK ?
DEF ?
This card cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. This card must first be Special Summoned (from your hand) by banishing 5 or more cards face-down from your hand, your side of the field and/or from your Extra Deck.
(1) This card gains 100 ATK and DEF for each banished face-down card.
(2) This card cannot be Tributed or used as a Material Monster for a Fusion, Synchro or Xyz Summon.
(3) Once per turn, if this card battles an opponent’s monster, during the start of the Damage Step: You can banish that opponent’s monster face-down.

>and/or from your Extra Deck.
Moderately usable. The attack gain is pointless, but the effect is bretty gud.
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>>156524115
Tewart, ocg gets 3 dollar maxx c, $10 desires etc
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What are the best generic rank 7 Xyz?
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>>156524341
No true combos, no ridiculous button combinations, no actual health meter, no supers.
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>>156524409
None of them
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>>156524341
Its not thoufh, smash doesnt combo the same as a proper fighter and focuses way more on animation canceling and stuff like that. Its a "brawler" not a fighting game.
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>>156524354
Why do you insist on putting Marie in it?
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>>156524358
Actually, that's pretty decent in decks that don't have tight extra deck space. I can see shit like Yosenjus/Qlis using it. I wish BA could use it, it'd be nice to have some non-targetting removal.
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>>156524354
there is so much wrong with your deck
here's a luci deck if you must
https://twitter.com/Strike1105/status/782169670317068288

and heres a reg
http://www.izazin.com/taikai/4173/recipe
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Unlimited Banlist Works

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29770160
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>>156524358
i like how you can literally banish your entire extra deck for whatever reason.
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>>156524358
You could make a fun pet deck with Maju, Pot of Desires, Necroface and this if Pot of Desires wasn't so expensive.
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>>156524575
Yes, im the guy from yesterday, guess it cant be helped. So what do i replace her with? i want to get discarded with Ixtab and draw 2
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>>156524657
Gotta get that meaningless attack gain bro ;)
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>>156524358
it also gains atk from your opp's banished face-downs, if you both activate desires and then drop it by banishing all your extra it has a respectable 3500, lol.
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>>156524704
Anything my man. Fucking 1 MST would be better than 200 lp per turn. That's a fifth of the cost of one activation of a Darklord effect, how could that possibly be worth it?
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>>156511649
Haven't played yugioh for a while unfortunately.
>come back a year later
>dueling network down
wtf happened?

>ygopro
Never gonna use that shit fuck off
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>>156524828
I considered trade-in but then again not all of them are level 8, i was thinking BLS since i got hecatrice or hey, maybe a chaos sorcerer.
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>>156523886
Not quite what you were going for
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>>156524881
Well your options are
>play irl
>buy an official game
>wait for dueling book
Either way, have fun.
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>>156523752
>Stone of ancients and spirit dragon make the set break even on their own
Did you people forget about ABC in two weeks?
Blue eyes will be worthless to anybody not a shitter after that.
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>>156524657
In case you want to have Domain Lock backed with CWSD, Raff, etc.
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>>156524936
Trade-In is good if you throw in more Zeratos and maybe even one or two Asmodeus. Take out Sanctuary in the Sky too, that's dumb.
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>>156524997
>Not using your very pride and soul forever
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>>156524881
>lists no reason
:^(
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>>156523560
>You side in Reader only to make Metaphys?
Are you stupid? Of course not, you use it as a handtrap and then if the situation would be better with a Metaphys then you summon it for Synchro, otherwise you leave it in your hand.
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>>156524696
>>156524657
This too. Gold Sarc at 3 also helps because it means Necroface can recycle in a pinch.
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>>156524354
it's shit, try this one. it runs one lucifer for you meme needs.
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>>156525171
Blue-eyes is not my soul.
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>>156525171
I wouldn't have any pride or even have a soul for something which can't even beat Elementary School Education
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>>156525171
Wasn't Kaito that called Galaxy-Eyes his Pride and Soul or is that a common saying throughout the series?
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>>156524997
being worthless never stopped a shit deck from attracting shitters, if DM shit can cost 30 burgers a pieces, people will surely buy more BEs.
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>>156525337
>>156524651
>desires
>tit twister

b-but im a poorfag
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>>156525438
>being worthless never stopped a shit deck from attracting shitters, if DM shit can cost 30 burgers a pieces, people will surely buy more BEs.
Good point.
I wonder how Red-eyes players feel knowing that their deck was once more expensive than Monarchs despite being worse than Noble Knights.
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New SPYRALs soon. Post SPYRALs.
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>>156525701
>Just realized it wouldn't have mattered what art work went where since 95% of FB users instantly hit like
Luckily that is where Waitress is and we'll see her effect in the next few hours.
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So do I pick up allure now or risk Konami either cutting it or making secret in DS?
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>>156526056
Both pendulum domination and destiny whatever had it on the ocg, if they cut it from both might as well don't play anything with it ever.
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>>156520705
>>156525701
About an hour left, right?
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>No Chaos Emperor errata
JUST
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>>156525701
>tfw bought a playset of the cheap SPYRALs a few days ago
hopefully they end up being at least decent.
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>>156526491
Why would you want it?
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>your face when Waitress ends up completely and utterly awful
>SPYRALs completely plummets in price and everyone gives up on them
>But then the rest of the cards are all super broken
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>>156526693
It's what people deserve for cumming over the waitress ad not the hot boss lady
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>>156524021
Wish I could make her work.
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>In the meantime...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycM5u9H94Xc
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>>156526671
>he doesnt want non destruction/targetting removal
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>>156523886
>>156524021
Will they ever make an actual Trap Hole Traptrix that acts like a Trap Hole when face down?
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>>156526671
>splash-able
>summon itself for relatively free
>level 8 with 3K attack
I don't know, anon.
Why don't you want it?
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>>156525604
are you playing locals?
if it's only for casual/kitchentable then just proxy them, twinsters aren't even that expensive, ixtab will probably end up more expensive than that.
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>>156527995
Yes i do go to locals, taking the game as serious as ever nowdays, now waiting for d/d/d's to come out. At first i wanted to build chemical beasts but then i took a look at the new darklords and i loved them.

> ixtab will probably end up more expensive than that.

please no...
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too spooky

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29773740too
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>>156528276
and you pretend to play d/d/ without desires or crystal wing? good luck with that.

this game isn't cheap and you will pay a fuckton to play "seriously".
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>>156520794

I know, I just said the first thing that popped into my mind for something that would make for a fun world championship prize. They could do other possible weird monster fusions as prize cards. Do people actually like getting the same copy paste match winners each year? They have cool art though, but thats about it. I'd love to see konami try some unhinged style cards.
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>>156520856
>/vip/

This is without a doubt the dumbest thing Hiro, hell, 4chan has ever done.
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>>156528585
Rome wasnt build in a day but with enough savings and trades i can improve my decks slow and steady im still shocked i have decent decks with just few expenses not to mention im not really liking the meta in anything hence i play things most people dont, now i know d/d/d's are popular but hey, i like them
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How good is the Future Fusion ritual version of BLS?

Also, why the Legendary Deck of Kaiba is so shit?
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>>156528509
>t0.o
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>>156529168
>How good is the Future Fusion ritual version of BLS?
It's better than Super Super Ritual but not by much.
>Also, why the Legendary Deck of Kaiba is so shit?
They didn't reprint Crush Card or Card of Demise
It's still better than Yugi and Joey's decks.
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>>156520856
>/vip/ has no topic - talk about whatever you want!
Literally /b/ but for paid users.
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>>156529386
>all global rules are enforced.
no, not like /b/ at all really
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How do I summon Getter?
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>>156529386
>>156529486

It's also a blue board
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>>156529386
>>156529486
So it's like the pseudo /b/s that already exist, like /r9k/, /s4s/ and /trash/
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>>156529540
that would be included with the enforcing all global rules, since that's just rule 5
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>>156525670
>despite being worse than Noble Knights.
You fucking take that back.
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>>156529323
They could have reprinted Alternative and change that Shadow something card for Fiendish Chain.

Kaiba in the anime/manga uses a lot of expensive cards that destroy his opponent's deck. A Blue-Eyes Virus Chaos deck could make more sense.
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>>156520856
finally a way to keep away the shit of 4chin, thanks hiro
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>>156529046
well, there's some easy to suggest replacement for most top money cards but trying to defend them is silly because the top money ones easily outclass them in many areas.

d/d/ will be a top deck by feb. when the structure hits but abc will still be the better deck to play and both want to play a number of pots of desires. to be honest, most top decks will want to play a number of pots of desires and some of those a number of solemn strikes on top of that.

even if the core of the deck can be put together for little, optimizing it will make the price skyrocket and you will have to decide if you want to run it optimized or can live with a worse version of it.
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>>156520856
I really wanna post about how that 1 guys card collection is shit. But I don't wanna bump that stupid thread, or pay for a stupid pass.
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>>156521049
Yes, it's hot garbage in general; but upon closer inspection, it's Konami taking pot shots at the secondary market:

>Exodia Necross
>Secret Village
>Black Stone
>King of the Swamp
>Dragon Spirit of White

All of these go for $6 on the secondary market, with Secrets/Necross being $20+, and Black Stone used to be $30+. So that's the "return" right there.

Otherwise, just wait for the nostalgiafags to buy this crap up for the Ties and Eternal Souls.

No Sage, or GOOD Silents is a colossal disappointment, however; but I credit that Konami still trying to shill SHVI.
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>>156530209
I get what you're saying and this kinda upsets me sometimes, for example at the last local there was this guy with d/d/d but his was so much faster i couldnt keep up (to my defense i had shitty hands) truly, better cards make a deck better but im not exactly the type of guy who will spend tons of money over 1 or 2 cards not only because i cant, but because i wont.
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Boys, you did vote for me, right?
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>>156530626
I didn't vote at all, so no. I'll vote when I figure out what the effects are.
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>>156530446
>>Exodia Necross
Who cares about this?
>>Secret Village
see above
>>Black Stone
This was a meme for Red-eyes players.
>>King of the Swamp
Irrelevant as shit, what deck actually runs this?
>>Dragon Spirit of White
Not even that hot of a reprint, it's just $10 and you only run like 1-2 in Blue-eyes.
At least DM gets his Eternal Soul but he's still shit even with that.
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>>156530626
Its too late, the waitress can't be trumped. She's likely right after, I hope

>>156530701
The vote is for the order the effects will be revealed in, anon
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>>156530701
>I'll vote when I figure out what the effects are.
But you vote to get the effects, anon.
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>>156530701
you vote for them to reveal that
its curently an art off contest
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>>156530626
Where do I vote? I'm assuming it's one of those silly facebook react voting things, right?
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>>156521049
>Legendary Decks
>No Legendary Dragons on each deck

One job, Tewart, One job.

But the Red-Eyes and Yugi.dek are decent, Kaiba without Alternative was shit.
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>>156530838
yes, its on the euro page
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>>156530803
>>156530806
>>156530814
Well that is fucking dumb, why would I care about any of these cards if I don't know what they do?
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>>156530776
Motherfucker, I know it's hot garbage, did you not read the first sentence or the post in general? I'm pointing out the cards that have monetary value in the secondary market. This shit isn't worth actually worth it in terms of meta, but if you can't get Ties and Eternal Soul off of someone, go for it.
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>>156531108
Because someone is really proud of the artwork for the SPYrals apparently
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>>156531108
You're voting to find out what they do, dumbass.
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>>156531690
But I have literally nothing to base my vote on
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How can we save him?
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Welcome to the Cafe de Resort!
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Does anyone have the original Pro's menu music?
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>>156531776
You should probably vote for one of the monsters, I'm sure they're the most important.
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>>156531861
Top QT, voted for her.
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>>156531251
Don't try to argue. This one kid forcing this Sawatari meme just keep saying IT'S SHIT LOL to anything. His first tier 1 deck was probably Monarchs since it was the first his underage ass could afford.
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>>156531861
Her face looks really ugly
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How would you fix the Legendary Decks? KoA can't make new cards for sets like this?

I would put a new Pendulum Time Magician card in Joey's Deck with a decent Pendulum Effect that summon fusions from the Extra Deck and destroy all monsters in the opponent's field. Then I will add retrained versions of Red-Eyes, Baby Dragon and Flame Swordsman with "Future/Thousand" fusions for them. Add some new gamble support on it too because why not, like a searcher for spell/traps that need coin/dices for effect activation.

Also, new fusions for the Legendary Dragons could be nice.
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>>156532116
Kill yourself
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>>156531889
I believe the default music was changed a few times from version to version, but I do think it used tracks from Two Steps From Hell for a very long time.
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>>156532116
You look really ugly.
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>>156532073
buttmad petdeck shitter detected
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>>156528585
Eh, the way I see it is this way:
There is a commen set of cards that see play in almost every deck: solemns, tt, extra deck staples, desires, dimension barrier soon, etc.

Once you have however many you want of these, then it costs much less to build decks when you can simply buy the core and swap in your staples.

This game is only expensive to start playing; that is, when you don't have copies of all the staple cards. After that it's much more manageable.
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>>156532253
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>>156532253
Do you have one for ABC?
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>>156532073
Yeah I noticed I'm seeing that posted alot more recently, and sometimes its like they barely read the post
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>>156531861
>post yfw this is a spell/trap card
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>>156532073
>sawa TRASH meme is only one person
the amount of delusionally ppl around here lately, i swear
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>>156528585
>without desires
DDDs never needed Desires. It's beneficial sure, but they never needed it. They topped just fine before it and still do well without it.

And no I am in no way saying Desires is bad. As I already stated, it is beneficial. But it's no magic card changes everything somehow.
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>>156532153
Nostalgia pandering can fuck off, I'm sick of all the horrible sets and pack filler/
It's been going on since 2015 and the only decks we have to show for it are ABC, Frogs, Darklords and Blue-eyes.
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>>156531861
>>156532439
One of the Café or the HQ will likely be a field spell.
Would be pretty funny if it ended up being the Café though.
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>>156532454
>+1
>Not changing everything
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>>156532486
>Nostalgia pandering can fuck off, I'm sick of all the horrible sets and pack filler/
every set has horrible pack filler, I'd rather it be nostalgia support than literally who archtypes noone likes or remembers
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>>156532541
It will be a spell card about super agent falling in love with the waitress.
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>>156532541
well they are secret agents so they might as well have a side meeting place
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>>156532358
Thanks for the the (You), have another one.
>>156532385
It only applies to not tier 1 decks, ABC is currently the best deck in the game.
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>>156532651
Thanks, here's yours
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>>156532454
i won't say that every single list that ever topped ran desires but you can check for yourself, and try and count how many don't run it.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/tag/DD
every single one of at least the first page of here runs it at two or three, even after the hits.
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>>156532634
>I'd rather it be nostalgia support than literally who archtypes noone likes or remembers
There are so much more better archetypes which deserve support over DM shit.
Inzektors
Hieratics
Wind-ups
Mermails
Fire Fists
Geargias
Madolche
Ghostrick
Spellbooks/Prophecy
D/D
and the list goes on.
The legacy support is getting annoying and it's not even making anything good, just taking away slots which could have gone to better archetypes which just need that 1 or 2 cards to work.
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>>156532486
yeah, those legendary collection sucks badly
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>>156532918
The nostalgia support isn't for us, it's for nostalgiafags.
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>>156532918
>mentioned Ghostricks, Geargia and Spellbooks
You're alright anon
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Why is Konami trying so hard to kill Pendulum?
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>>156532918
neither of those is good or fun, not even defending DM shit because it isn't good or fun either but holy fuck, they all had their chance to do shit (maybe not all of those), give shit to truly horrible shit that hasn't ever seen the spotlight.

if you pretend to support shit like inzektor, windup, mermail or spellbooks, start with freeing their shit from the list and then maybe we can talk about new support if that isn't enough.
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>>156532918
most of these decks were meta at some point already and dont need any further support, most of their best cards are just banned.
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>>156533093
Maybe the anime is reaching an end and they want it to die so they can meme it up on a new one on the next show?
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>>156533093
Because it's a poorly designed mechanic and nostalgia sells better.
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>>156533093
Because they were scared of EmEm and needs to shill out more nostalgia products.
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>>156530626
I don't have facebook, but I still checked the page and it looks like boss lady only has 2 votes.
The waitress is winning by an insane landslide.
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>>156533171
What's so poorly designed about it?
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>>156533093
they realized their mistake and are trying to do something about it >>156533149
waiting for DM super so they can calm down and restart
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>>156533223
The waitress is a standard thumbs up, most people don't know how to do the other reactions so thumbs up always wins.
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>>156533141
>Implying

Inzektors wouldn't do jackshit if they had 3 Dragonfly and Hornet today. They couldn't even be rogue, much less good enough to make an impact. To even leave a dent on today's petdecks, they'd need more support and both at 3. Degenerate shit like the wind-up loop and judgment should stay banned, though. Maybe give those archetypes some healthy support.
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>>156533264
You need to use two cards to recycle them, instead of them just floating immediately like non-pendulum cards.
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>>156533223
You looked at the numbers wrong
Waitress has around 2000 votes
Boss Lady has 845
Super Agent Fighting has 359
SPYRAL HQ looking spell has 149
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>>156533106
>Neither of those is fun
>If you pretend to support it

Your opinion isn't everyone else's. There's tons of people that like the archetypes on that list.
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>>156531823
Maybe if he got the full nostalgia treatment they could have turned him into a full stun deck and make alternate forms of Jinzo that can negate spells, monsters, graveyard etc.(but hopefully better than Buster Blader does).
Jinzo did deserve more.
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>>156533264
Pendulum is a shit mechanic by default, it's a -2 inherently and doesn't go anywhere, just floats. But the mechanic can be abused to ridiculousness if you use the right cards.
Basically pendulum can either be complete shit or broken as fuck, There is no inbetween.
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>>156533264
The infinite floating and abuse potential for boss monsters like Kirin and Apex. It's just a really hard mechanic to balance with the way it's made. Plus, Arc-V is coming to its conclusion, which is the more logical reason.
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>>156524409
Big Eye, Flare Metal, Dracossack
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>>156530626
why is she being served by the waitress at the cafe
>>156531861
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If we wanted to contact Konami or someone to tell them our thoughts about there products, whats the best way to do this? They probably wont listen to me, but its worth a try.
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>>156533660
the cafe is the meeting place of the agents
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WE'RE GETTING THE NEW SPYRAL ANY MOMENT NOW!
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>>156533738
Don't bother. They won't change what works best for them.
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>>156533358
inzektor can loop just as hard if not harder than windup and spellbooks, and i for one don't want to ever see inzektors being relevant. i'm sorry for your shit taste in petdecks.

most of the good cards from that era are poorly designed with no restrictions or hindsight about their possible interactions, trying to build something on top of inzektor would probably end up being a terribly masturbatory spam of all-over-the-place ranks because targeted destruction is dead.

i'd rather give shit to windup and let them be treatoad spam than letting the ADS nips come with new retarded ideas for the kamen rider shits.

spellbook of judgment is a balanced card and i don't care about them being full powered to be honest, same with deep sea diva.
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>>156533546
Beg to e-tele get unlimited.
Seriously, the main play of the deck was teleing pilica, getting guldo to hand from Sphreez and normaling him to blow your load. It was honestly pretty good but I, in particular, don't know how to proceed without 3 e-teles.

I've seen some people talking about Speedroids but I don't know, never tested it. I don't like mixing archetypes anyway so...
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>>156533738

They literally have a contact email
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>>156533738
You can't. You can Email their R&D for ruling questions, or leave a comment on their Facebook posts, but actually telling them your opinions is impossible.
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>>156533830
I thought we were going to get it 24 hours after the poll started but we haven't yet.
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>>156530626
Skull-themed evil organization logo in the background
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>>156533738
They literally laugh at and ridicule the ideas of their own judges in their own judge program and judge face book group.
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>>156533843
i know about the roids
i just want to go pure gusto (the kaiju it's just for the 8000 otk) because i love my cute waifus
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>>156533898
Really makes you think
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>>156533836
>Spellbook of Judgment is a balanced card
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>>156533738
>KoA
>Changing for the better
If anything, they'll just laugh at you.
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>>156533450
we had years of them being different levels of relevant and that was enough for me. i've played almost every single deck in this game's history and probably everything since REDU at some point and yeah, most of them had fun things going but those things are so dated now and any legacy support that tried to make them viable on today's meta would have to completely retarded or would enable stupid shit with their banned/limited crap.

if they could do it properly i wouldn't mind, but given how konmai does their shit, it would be either absolute garbage or totally broken for the sake of being broken and that isn't fun for me.
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>>156533836
>has an issue with Inzektors
>doesn't mind Judgement lock or Diva combos/OTKs
Where did Dragonfly/Hornet touch you? They were good for their time but now they're complete shit.
Judgement is still broken since +10 and Jowgen is cancer only Dragon Rulers can take and Diva + Atlantean Prince leads to some bullshit in Mermails.
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>>156534030
Every time Judgment gets brought up, I end up going on a rant about how Spellbooks need a card like Judgment to do anything, but I can't be arsed right now. What I will say is that Jowgen should be banned instead.
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>>156534207
>Totally broken for the sake of being broken

Do you mean every current meta deck? Seriously, have you even LOOKED at this game? Them being broken wouldn't really change much of anything. Broken is the gold standard for this game.
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>>156532651
Can I at least get the template?
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>>156534261
Judgement should never ever come off the list. Tier 0 floodgate shit is retarded.
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mmm sexy
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>>156534207
>broken for the sake of being broken
THANK YOU. Jesus Christ why is it that Konami just keeps slapping more and more effects on cards? Look at fucking Denglong, that thing's fucking crazy. Dragon Buster too. I feel Konami just turns shit up to 11 when they feel like it.
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>>156534261
Jowgen going would be helpful, but it's still an insane card. Fate would have to be banned.
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>>156532651
Can you make one with relinquished/thousand eyes restrict cards?

Thanks.
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>>156534489

wasn't that an smt boss?
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>>156534390
can give ya "This card doesn't suit you." as well
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>>156534515
>I feel Konami just turns shit up to 11 when they feel like it.

That's exactly how it works. They print balanced archetypes as filler, then when they want something to be good, they make it insanely broken and print it in secret. That's how it's worked now for quite a while.
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>>156534452
>ban Jowgen
>No more floodgate shit
"B-but Kycoo!"
Activating 4 (FOUR) different Spellbooks in addition to Judgment in one turn is quite a challenge. 3 is no problem.
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>>156533546
Play with Metalfoes?
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>>156534653

You mean KoA prints it as a secret
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>>156534707
Yo.
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>>156534238
>>156534030
it was a joke, i'm not good at those, sorry.

i just don't know what "good" inzektor support could do because good inzektor cards can do things wildly beyond my expectations. i've seen them loop entire decks and summoning sophia and that's something no one at konami could've predicted. they stand a very swinging line between absolute garbage and unimaginably broken, in my humble opinion.

>>156534372
abc is broken for the sake of broken, other things pretend to have restrictions and shit. i think darklords are a well designed modern deck and more decks could be a little more like that. d/d/ doesn't feel well designed but it somewhat "fairs" itself out for how resource heavy their big plays are, you break those and they are done for good.
blue-eyes are so barebones design-wise it pains me, i don't care much about their powerlevel but they do have some "slapped for the sake of power" effects going on.
metalfoes on their own feel fair but probably aren't, their wincons and interactions can get out of hand but it doesn't feel like it's metalfoes fault.


i honestly just care about good design because playing this game is hell.
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>>156534563
Can do.
Will check back soon.
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>>156534801
Oh, right, my bad. Japan gets them as rares because they're not idiots. I blame MTG for setting a precedent on how ridiculous a price westerners are willing to pay for a trading card.
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>>156533836
>poorly designed with no restrictions or hindsight about their possible interactions
Why does that sound so familiar?
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>>156534936
MTG cucks manage to make everything worse even with a dead game
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>>156534903
I feel you. Yeah, actually, I do wish more decks could be like Darklords. They feel fair but powerful. Sort of remind me of older decks, but with a new twist with the "during either player's turn" effects.
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>>156535005
MTG is dying, what?
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>>156534207
>>156534515
>>156534653
The card design is definitely very inconsistent. It's hilarious how Digital Bug and Burning Abyss can exist in the same game.
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>>156535108
Dead* learn to read faggot.
Anyway yes, sales and players have been declining pretty rapidly over these past few years.
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>>156534564
This maybe?
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>>156535090
The only unfair shit with Darklords are Vanity's/Archlord Krystia spam

Blue-Eyes is more fair IMO
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>>156534489
>you will never overlay and rail Dora

Just kill me now.
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>>156534707
They don't have to be spellbooks though. Upstart being killed certainly puts a dampener on spell spam but there exist options like bamboo engine + foolish burial of belongings.
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>>156535439
anon...
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>>156535289

I was thinking smt3, but that works too.
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>>156534515
>Denglong
you understand what i feel perfectly, probably.

i read shit like kozmo strawman and can't help but wonder, how can a lv2 normal summon monster with decent def be able to special summon a lv9~5 monster from banish for free. it can attack, it will float in the end phase into a searcher that can get another copy of it on the field with some luck.

...and yet not being like the best card in the best deck of the format.

Denglong gets itself omninegation that doesn't destroy while floating into more omninegation fuel, can change its level into basically anything while setting the grave for a float-into-synchro play or just get a +1 recycle spell from the deck and get its own fuel with its own summon. while being totally generic and not doing anything at all for the format.

every single time the powerlevel notch goes up by one we get more and more effects slapped onto cards with less or more trivial restrictions and we all know this in unsustainable just to end up banning/limiting everything for a format of goodstuff tempo crap with +0 interactions, and then make even worse crap with even more effects to then unlimit everything that is now trivial.
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>Fucking Zodiacs are going to get TTop limited

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>156534903
>slapped for the sake of power
Jesus.
>Spirit dragon stops mass pendulum summons for no reason
>Dragon spirit of white is vanilla everywhere except field while geminis get fucked

They even tried that shit with Buster Blader.
>Dragon Buster Sword stops extra deck summons for no reason
>Wizard Buster Sword negs grave effects for no reason
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>>156535675
Thank God.
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>>156535564
decks arent about just spamming the biggest beaters anymore, ever since DUEA its been your entire deck vs your opponents entire deck. Just farting out one almighty monster doesn't cut it.
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>>156535792
Why? Terrortop isn't the issue, PKBA and Zodiacs are. They'd be destroying a perfectly balanced card when they could just ban a zodiac or two.
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>>156535792
You realize Terrortop isn't the issue, right? Just look at this asshole.
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>>156536051
>Ban the cards you need to sell
You're fired.
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>>156534563
Here you go.
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>>156536136
Yeah brah Zodiacs use lots of Dantes to do their combos. Let's ban Invoker while we're at it, clearly the problem, not a free fucking rank 3 without wasting your normal summon.
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IT'S HERE
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>>156536153
>The time comes when K-money finally hits Zodiacs
>Implying they'll be selling the set they come in anymore

They could just as easily hit the actual Zodiacs as Terrortop at that point. Both would accomplish killing the deck so the next thing they're shilling could shine.
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>>156535675
Or banned.
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It's here!!
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>>156536271
>You thought you weren't going to use Agent.
Not bad.
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>>156536271
That's like three fucking effects revolving around completely on Super Agent. Dear Lord. It's ok I guess.
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>>156536271
>Fairy
Why
>destruction effect recruit Super Agent
Metal Spyral, here we go.
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>>156536271
Damn, it's so close to being good. If only there were some way to special summon her so you could OTK with that 0-ATK effect. I really wish she had SPYRAL in her name.
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>>156536271
>Level 3
Damn I hoped it was a 1...
At least the effect looks good.
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>>156536271
not too bad but I feel the 1st eff would be better if it was hand trapable
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>>156536271
>only supports Super Agent
>not Quik Fix Rank 1 spam
It's shit.
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>>156536271
>fairy
Ok. I am game. She truly is an angel then.
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>>156536296
Fuck, wrong image.
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>>156536424
>Why
Because Fairy in OCG are Angel, which means she's like an angel, or something like that.
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>>156536431
There's still 3 more cards coming buddy, as far as we know there's a field spell that one for ones all SPYRALs. That is extremely wishful thinking but I want it.
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>>156536271
>Charming Resort Staff
>Fairy
>They made the waifu a literal angel
Oh they know. This is on purpose.
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>>156536271
Gimmicky garbage, doesn't support Quik-Fix.
No thanks.
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>>156536648
>Oh they know. This is on purpose
?
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>>156536560
I though she's designed by TCG?
And being a Fairy means that she's pretty hard to search.
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>>156536271
It's... ok? I mean, I was kinda hoping for something more substantial, but I guess this works. This card will be run at 1 if at all.
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>>156536271
>not part of the archetype
>Kuriboh stats
>she needs to be on the board for the first effect
>only works with Agent
How is this good support?
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>>156536178
Thanks friend.
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>>156536853
Just play Spyral Cyber Angels :^)
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>>156536829
Look at Super Agent's face in the background. The -charming- resort staff is his waifu. His "angel".
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>>156536826
>>156536497
You're like one of those people insisting that Metalfoes should be a beatdown deck.
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>>156536271
HAHA GARBAGE SUBTERRORS WILL BE TIER 1!!!!1!1!11!!
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>>156536879
Oh yeah that's true, for some ungodly reason I thought the first effect was a handtrap.

This is fucking shit.
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>>156536980
Metalfoes are a generic pendulum good card abuse deck.
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>>156536879
it isnt
they knew what they were doing and b8ed everyone with the art
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>>156536879
>>156536991
>This is fucking shit.
While a Handtrap most likely would have been better. Consider that this on the field it's more than a one-time use effect.
Perhaps the gloves are searchable by Quik-Fix and provides additional attacks or something. Then the Resort Staff could use her effect on each and every one of those attacks. For instance.

I am not knocking it until I've seen all the cards.
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>>156537037
Can also played as Beatdown deck.
Your point?
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>>156536271
>none of her effects are hard OPT
>floating triggers when destroyed by your own effects too
seems potentially abusable
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>>156536879
>>not part of the archetype
Oh wow, I didn't even notice that. This is actually dogshit, I thought it'd at least be usable but nope.
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>>156536986
>SUBTERRORS WILL BE TIER 1!!!!1!1!11!!
>when they're a flip effect deck and not flipped face up
lol
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>>156537132
It's a gimmicky effect and she only floats into a card you don't even run.
It's SHIT.
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>>156537198
How dense are you when you cannot detect THIS LEVEL of sarcasm?
Or are you just gonna answer me with "i was just pretending to be retarded" now?
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>>156536986
That card is still great in comparison to Subterrors. Just look at the Nemesis Warrior, that card is an embarassment.
Unless they get a card that can simply special summon Nemesis Warrior straight from the deck, while allowing Nemesis Warrior to tribute both of them after the fact. Then Nemesis Warrior will remain pure and utter trash.
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Why don't you wait for the other 3 reveals before calling the card shit?
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>>156537347
Because none of them will make Super Agent worth running.
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>>156536271
>doesn't trigger Super Agent effect
>can't resurrect it with Big Red
>Drone can't boost her attack
Damn.
She's gonna have as much utility as Maiden, huh.
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>>156537347
Because it's unsearchable restricted utility. You can't even argue "what if they get a searcher" because this isn't a fucking Spyral.
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>>156537284
>>156537410
>into a card you don't even run
Not even that guy, but I have no idea why you think SPYRALs don't run the Agent. That's ridiculous.
Agent supports Quik-Fix, is great for Synchro plays, can remove S/Ts while doing work, and you easily get the card back without spending real resources for doing so.
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>>156537347
Unless one of the cards special summons cafe girl straight from the deck and then boosts super agent to 4k she still won't be worth it.
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>>156537347
You may as well give up on them right now.
Tewart only made 2 good decks and both were just helmet floatshit.
Neither of those decks are just floatshit, just memey gimmicks.
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>>156537284
>Metalfoes new card doesn't support their play style as Beatdown deck, therefore it's SHIT
This is what you sounds like.
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Best Rafflesia targets for the ABC format? I'm thinking BTH and Void. Floodgate is good too but its expensive and I still need to discard for Dragon Buster to banish whatever I flipped.
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>>156537284
>card you don't even run
?
Super agent is the main card of the deck, every other card is just there to support him.
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>>156537686
People think that because the best deck people could make with the initial support was memey Quik-Fix OTKs that Quik-Fix is the main card of the deck.

Which isn't wrong, but it isn't 100% right either.
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>>156537413
>>doesn't trigger Super Agent effect
WHAT WAS TEWART THINKING?
He didn't even copy this card and have a condition which treats her as a SPYRAL card like this is a Blue-eyes card.
She's just a random card for Agent dick sucking.
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>>156537757
But even Quik-Fix is supported by Super Agent. You play Super Agent to replay spent Quik-Fixes.
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>>156524653
Part 2

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29771280
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>>156537872
I never said the people who think that were smart.
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Now to wait for the boss lady to be revealed and be better than her, which will prove my tastes to be superior for liking the mature woman
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>using Super Agent
Do you want an already shit deck to run even worse?
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>>156536271
>If a "SPYRAL Super Agent" you control is destroyed by battle or sent to the Graveyard while this card is in your Graveyard:
>destroyed by battle OR sent to the Graveyard
This seems abusable as fuck.
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Why wouldn't you run Agent?
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>mfw 'hehe quik-fix rank 1 machine dupe i dont even run agent.dek' shitters are mad
>it supports super agent like the deck is supposed to be centered around (and does a damn good job of it), doesn't make it generic spamshit helmet
>qt/10, would run 3 of

Stay mad.
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>tfw you play Psy-frames without Driver
Living on the edge.
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>Using a level 8 Vanilla with 3000 ATK in your Blue-Eyes decks
>Using vanilla fusion monsters in your Metalfoes
>Using garbage Unions in your ABCs

Why are you all such shitters?
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>>156538332
>Calling the people who play the only noteworthy thing that the deck can do shitters
>Buys into this god awful card just because generic anime girl

Truly epic
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>the entire SPYRAL deck is based on Agent
>yfw it's literally NK 2.0 except instead of King with 5 swords, it's a Guy getting boosted over your shit from all angles.
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>>156538440
>Using a level 8 Vanilla with 3000 ATK in your Blue-Eyes decks
I know this is a troll post, but come on
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>>156538476
Post your build so we can laugh together, anon.
I also needs inspiration.
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>>156537452
haha yeah i'm sure konami would never think to do something like, i dunno, search card text instead
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>>156536271
>When an attack is declared involving a "SPYRAL Super Agent" you control and an opponent's face-up monster: You can change the ATK of the opponent's monster to 0.
The waifu literally gives him super powers.
I actually like it. Yeah people will say it's a shit effect and should have been a hand trap, but people should consider how easy it is to summon Super Agent. Multiples of it even.
And on the field she'll support all of them. And even if they chain Solemn or something to her effect, she'll replace herself with yet another Super Agent while being able to retrieve another by banishing itself.

The only real thing that's a shame is that she isn't considered a SPYRAL.
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>>156538671
>mfw realizing the girl doesn't say card or monster, she lists SPYRAL Agent specifically
>mfw Tewart cucked DM's gimmick for his meme deck.
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>>156538671
>can't pick up Timaeus
Still mad about this.
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>>156538476
>Calling the people who play the only noteworthy thing that the deck can do shitters
Wow it's an archetype with three (3) cards revealed before now, I wonder why they have to run janky memes and can't be played properly yet. I expect this shittery to die out after all the reveals.

>Buys into this god awful card just because generic anime girl
>supports super agent in various facets rolled into one card
>the centerpiece of the deck
>god awful card
Yeah, I'd much rather play Yugioh for the balance instead of the waifus.
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>>156537410
But Super Agent already is worth running. Even if this new card won't be.
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>>156538671
This is just damage control at this point. I'm not even gonna bother. Have your (You) for yourself and your shitty waifu.
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why did they add the destroyed by battle clause
is it really important to recover a super agent from grave if he was destroyed by battle and banished, like by macro cosmos

answer: she is a spy herself for the skull guys, and supports Liquid Agent and Solidus Agent whose names are treated as Super Agent
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>>156539070
Your centerpiece is shit, kid, and this generic anime waitress #8000 doesn't change this.
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>>156539149
>the centerpiece of a shit deck is shit
What's next, anon?
Water is wet?
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Sekrit Anti-SPYRAL tech
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>>156539128
>why did they add the destroyed by battle clause
So that it can trigger if Super Agent was to be destroyed by battle?

>Have Super Agent and Charming Resort Staff on the field
>Attack the opponent's monster with Super Agent
>Activate Charming Resort Staff's effect to make the opponent's monster's ATK 0.
>Opponent chains Solemn Strike
>Charming Resort Staff is destroyed, and the opponent's ATK was not reduced to 0
>Because of this Super Agent will no longer make the battle
>But upon destruction Charming Resort Staff special summons another Super Agent from the deck. And when the first Super Agent is tragically defeated in battle, Charming Resort Staff is already in the graveyard and can banish herself to send Super Agent back into your hand.
I imagine something like this is the typical event they imagined.
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>>156539464
Wet is a property that can only be applied to solid object when they are covered in water, water itself cannot be wet.
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>>156539464
>Water is wet
It isn't, actually ;^)
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>>156539505
How does BA deal with this?
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>>156539464
>Water is wet?
Wrong, kiddo.
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>>156539526
>>Attack the opponent's monster with Super Agent
>>Activate Charming Resort Staff's effect to make the opponent's monster's ATK 0.
>>Opponent chains Solemn Strike
>>Charming Resort Staff is destroyed, and the opponent's ATK was not reduced to 0
>>Because of this Super Agent will no longer make the battle
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>>156539608
Just summon any 2 main deck BAs that aren't Graff or Scarm then make Break Sword?
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>>156539548
So water is humid?
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>People hating on Super Agent all of a sudden
Wow, wow. Hold on. When and how did this start?
Quik-Fix > Super Agent, sure. But you have to be pretty silly to not run Super Agent.
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>>156539696
Humidity is a term that can only be applied to gasses.
Did you even take science class?
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>>156539798
But water is liquid and gas at the same time.
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>>156539673
What?
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>>156539128
actually, that might just be the spyral logo

there should be bad guys like the kozmolls, and subterrors vs. subterror nemesis, but there probably won't be
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>>156539865
No? Water is just a liquid.
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>>156539548
>>156539586
>>156539626
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>>156539673
No longer make the battle as in doesn't survives, anon.
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>>156539871
You already declared an attack, can't take it back just because your waifu got striked.
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>>156539734
>Alternative is fucking great!
>Why would you ever run regular Blue-Eyes? It's just a fucking vanilla!
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>>156539942
water can be liquid, gas, or solid

liquid water is liquid
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>>156540090
Do you have reading comprehension problems?
Nowhere was it implies otherwise. And the events even directly outlined what would happen when the Agent would be destroyed by said battle.
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>>156540136
Water is dihydrogen-monoxide in its liquid state. In it's gas state it is called steam and in its solid state it is called ice.
You really need to go back to school and do science class again.
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>>156540317
>In it's gas state it is called steam and in its solid state it is called ice.
That doesn't make it not water, my friend.
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>>156540317
solid water is still water

i thought even grade schoolers knew that states of matter don't change chemical composition
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>>156540136
it's still ice you donut
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>>156539505
How does this relate to ? monsters?
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>>156539942
Something about how water always evaporates and condenses even when they have reached equilibrium.
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>>156538353
WHAT
You just run Multi-Threader? Show me your ways, if you're not just baiting of course.
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>>156540438
Yes it does.
>>156540508
Solid water is ice, it might be the same thing chemically but by definition water is a liquid.
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>>156540090
>You already declared an attack, can't take it back just because your waifu got striked.
You can, actually.
The number of monsters on the field changed when Staff was destroyed by strike, allowing the turn player to decide if he would continue with the attack, or not.
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>>156539997
>art is three very similar monster
>Ties can't summon monsters with the same name
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>>156539673
>forcing the shun meme
>yet fails
This thread is getting really stupid.
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Maybe you mexicans in your taco bells think it's only called steam, but the reality is that vaporized water is water vapor.
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>>156536271
>those effects
>not a SPYRAL monster
SO close to being good ...
But who cares. She's Tier 1 waifu, so I'll main 3 of it anyway.
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>>156535929
Big numbers still matter if they're big enough. See: Dark Matter OTK
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>ITT: water is not a liquid
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>>156540753
>See: Dark Matter OTK
That deck was just a meme.
Shaddolls and Nekroz performed far better than it even with Dragon Rulers legal.
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>>156540697
But they have diffrents names They are George, Oscar and Ahmed. We never talk to Ahmed though.
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The 200 iq genius Vorcia brings to you another perfected decklist.
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>>156540880
>Dragon Rulers legal
>performed far better than

Pick one.
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>>156540807
Water is a liquid at room temperature (and similar typical tempteratures on Earth), a solid at low temperatures, and a gas at high temperatures.
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>>156541079
Why do you run 3 Solemns?
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>>156541112
http://roadoftheking.com/ocg-2015-01-metagame-1-january-2015-31-march-2015
Literally below Evilswarms
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>>156541169
water
noun
1.
a colourless, transparent, odourless, liquid which forms the seas, lakes, rivers, and rain and is the basis of the fluids of living organisms.
"sodium chloride dissolves in water"

steam
noun
1.
the vapour into which water is converted when heated, forming a white mist of minute water droplets in the air.

ice
noun
1.
frozen water, a brittle transparent crystalline solid.
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>>156541169
>Water is a liquid at room temperature
Not necessarily, it can exist as vapour too due to not being in equilibrium. Thermodynamics n' shit.
In fact, water can exist as a solid, liquid and gas all at the same temperature (about 0.1 degrees C, known as the triple point).
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>>156541169
But water is also gas at room temperature.
That's where humidity comes from.
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>>156541169
Water =/= steam =/= ice
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>>156533093
too powerfull, and trigger silly nostalgiafags
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WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
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>>156530776
Fuck off Sawatari. Your cards are even shittier.
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>>156541741
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>>156541653
High cost, high reward (for the time).
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>>156536271
Garbage.
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>>156541653
fail whale
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>>156541917
Like you
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>>156541436
exactly, water vapor and frozen water are also water
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>>156541876
That pic will be true when ABC Dragon Buster goes to 1 though.
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>>156541962
They're not though, you don't ask for a glass of water and get delivered a glass of solid ice. You also don't get delivered a literal glass of steam.
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>>156542031
Most of the time only 1 is enough
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>>156541954
Aww did I hurt your feelings by calling your waifu garbage? Well she is.
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>>156542128
But that's not my waifu
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>>156542128
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>>156542112
clearly if I ask for frozen water he'll give me something else like ketchup, since ice clearly isn't frozen water
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>>156536271
This card would've been good. Like 10 years ago.
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Did Percy just lose seventy cards and the recent lists for anybody else?
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>>156542334
You don't ask for frozen water you ask for ice. Dumbass.
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>>156542119
Nah.
They need at least two, so after floating and disruption on opponent's turn, they can push for games.
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>>156542119
1 Dragon Buster isn't enough.
What makes ABC good is the fact that with 3 Dragon Buster they can r4, make Dragon Buster, banish cards, split Dragon Buster, make r4, and make Dragon Buster again and then combine all this with floodgates to put the opponent out of pocket while they have all these resources and advantage over them.
One Dragon Buster means gg no re when it gets Kaiju'd or Striked since the pieces are stuck and they're left with r4 as their only power plays.
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>>156542119
No, dipshit, only 1 on the FIELD is enough. They still need multiples in the ED so they can go back into it after tributing to split for R4.
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>>156542438
If I ask for frozen water, anyone with a grade school education will know I'm asking for ice, since ice is frozen water.

What I would do personally is irrelevant, I obviously would ask for ice since it's faster and more normal. But I'm not surprised to see you try to derail this talk into semantics like that, it must be pretty embarassing to not know that ice is water.
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>permanently lowering the atk of anything super agent battles to 0 isn't good
>as if 5000+ atk agents weren't enough, now they can easily otk your ass in a single turn
>thinking spyrals won't get in-house support for popping her on their own just like zodiac beasts

O I AM LAFFIN
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>>156542723
Ice is not the same as water, going back to the "water is wet" argument, ice can't even wet things without melting I.e. become water.
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>>156542759
>the attack reduction is permanent
Sekrit Tek.
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>>156542759
>>as if 5000+ atk agents weren't enough, now they can easily otk your ass in a single turn
every deck can do this, it's nothing special.
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>>156542921
that's because liquids are wet. liquid water is also wet, just like liquid soap, liquid mercury, and so on.
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>>156543060
Say that to Yata lock.
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>>156543189
So other than "ice and water are exactly the same thing" what is your argument? Where is this going?
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>>156543189
>liquid water
That's a pretty redundant term
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>>156543320
you could have at least tried your last ditch before going nowhere all by yourself with this bizarre insistence that frozen water and vapor water can't be water since they're not wet
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>>156543562
"Liquid water" isn't wet either, water can't be wet.
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>>156543724
But liquid water is always covered with water.
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Support when?
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>>156543975
Water isn't wet. Wetness is a description of our experience of water; what happens to us when we come into contact with water in such a way that it impinges on our state of being. We, or our possessions, 'get wet'.

Literally all you have to do is go onto google, type "is water wet" and this ^ answer will appear for you, you don't even have to click any links it's right there.
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>>156543984
Next year.
Prince pretty much carried Atlanteans on his back all through 2015 and enough now they still top thanks to Treatoad.
This is the type of support all decks should get, one card which does everything for it.
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>>156544156
So water isn't our possession?
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>>156524653
#freemynigganephilim :'v
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>>156544242
I hope so
They need some better first turn plays
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>>156544294
I think the part of that statement to take away is "impinges on our state of being", think to yourself can water impinge on itself? No, that's retarded.
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>>156543984
After Treatoad I'm a little done with WATER for a while. Unless we got things like Cloudians, Fish support or Legendary Fisherman support.
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>>156544515
>Cloudians
:^)
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>>156521024
How long do you give it before they print the Luscianas?
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>>156544460
So things can't impinge on itself?
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>>156544751
Water can't.
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Out of all the awful GX decks, why did Cloudians become the biggest meme?
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>>156544614
I'm not stupid enough to ask for that fish to come back.
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Is PK BA considered to be a difficult deck to play? I've been messing with it for a while, but I'm having trouble with it. For reference, I'm using this build: http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=105654
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>>156544673
Are they even any good?
The last time I check, they're level 1 monsters that revolves around making R1.
And R1 pool is awful.
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>>156544793
They aren't that bad with control they just didn't get fleshed out.
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>>156538476
just yesterday all those cards was getting expensive xDd
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>>156544957
they co op with another deck to be better
forget if its sroids or ruri raptors
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>>156544957
Ruriraptors are shit, just like Melodious and Wind Witches.
Lunalights are the only good archetype from the Bracelet Girls.
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>>156534489
For those of you that care there's a NSFW version of that image.
Here's the link:
http://jxgart.tumblr.com/post/149253900056/number-81-superdreadnought-rail-cannon-dora-pinup
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>>156545410
>janky otk cats better than hyper-consistent rank 4 spam that can bring out a 3500 atk towers, spoders, and infinity whenever they want to
>wind witches not doing their job of supporting speedroids, now with crystal wing you cant cheese with raigeki
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>>156544957
Not really, but it's the only one of the bracelet girl's deck's that hasn't been printed.
So one would think they they would for the sake of completion.
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>>156542401
What are you talking about?
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>>156545580
I don't understand.
What's that thing blocking her nose and mouth supposed to be?
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>>156512019
extra deck is on point tho
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>Super Soldier Origin doesn't activate BLS Kid effects
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>>156546041
>What's that thing blocking her nose and mouth supposed to be?
I have no idea, on a sidenote that artist also did some of the Lunalights, here are the links:
http://jxgart.tumblr.com/post/148908453836/and-6-hours-later-shes-colored-probably-the

http://jxgart.tumblr.com/post/148964230811/the-lunalight-super-duo-black-sheep-and-white

http://jxgart.tumblr.com/post/148725424966/i-finished-the-lunalight-panther-dancer-pinup-i
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>>156546970
>someone gets paided for THIS
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>>156546041
its the front of the train
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>>156546970
wait, what crystal gem is that?
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>>156536271
So is this a Secret Rare or plain Rare?
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>>156547243
Pretty sure it is just plain Rare.
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>>156545598
>Ruriraptors
>The same as Raid Ruris

Smug anime posting retard.
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>>156546769
I think that's your retardedness.
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>>156547243
Can't you see it's the new rarity, sample rare? You can tell it from normal rares by the word "sample" being printed all over it.
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>>156547205
It's Amethyst's alt. costume as the secret third member of the Tiger Millionaire tag team.
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>>156547192
But Dora doesn't have anything like that.
It only have a big ass cannon.
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>>156547651
whatever this is then
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>>156547651
don't you see it?
the red lawn water tap-like thing protruding like a penis?
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>>156536271
So Super Agent is going to drop hard again, right?
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>>156548105
well its gone from double to 1.5X so people are still holding out hope for the rest of the cards still to be revealed
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what sleeves do you guys use?
which brands, colors, with designs, same for main and extra, same color for all your decks, etc.

i've been using blue ultra pro matte for all my decks for years now and thinking of changing up a little bit.
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>>156548105
No. I wouldn't count on it.
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>>156548356
also recommend me sleeves for my metalfoes.
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>>156548356
I used to buy Ultra Pro, now I buy Dragon Shield. I use different colours for different decks and I try to use fitting colours (for example green sleeves for wind decks).
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>Zodiac Beasts chain overlaying triggers Black Garden
>can clog your opponents entire field off of just Garden and a normal summon
>search Viper will Bullhorn to beef your Zodiac up so the tokens can't run it over
>swap between Wildblow and Drancia to hit directly over their clogged field and disrupt plays while spawning more
I need to do this to someone at least once
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So what's your favorite nickname for D/D/D?
I myself like Declan's Delayed Dudes, and while not exactly a nickname, i think it's pretty fun saying Triple-D out loud.
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>>156548615
>>156548356
I like Dragon Shield for my collection but playing with them sucks. The sleeves stick and are poorly cut.

Ultimate Guard sleeves are my favorite for budget main deck sleeves atm. Player's Choice are also good if you don't want the anti-glare that Ultimate Guards have but are a bit more expensive.

KMC Hyper Matte Minis are definitely the best but I don't like their colours and they're also expensive compared to the rest.

My favorite Extra Deck sleeves are imported official sleeves from the OCG.
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>>156548105
Super Agent is likely going to be the centre of just about any SPYRAL support. And since they're young, they'll likely receive support for several sets to come. With Super Agent at the centre of it all.
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>>156548817
Delayed Depression Demons
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>>156548356
kmc hyper mat for tournaments, ultra pro matte/ultimate guard matte for regular use
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>>156548903
Nigger they didn't even make the hand trap a hand trap, they're the U.A.s of this wave of tcg exclusives.
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>>156548817
>tfw you discovered lamia wasnt a slime girl but some kind of weird robo
Declan's Devious Dudes
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>>156549013
What was the last duo of exclusives?
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>>156548615
i've been running blues mostly because i've had water decks and infernoids have the blue fire shit going on for them so it was good enough.

>>156548902
>>156548989
i remember getting some kmc oversleeves years ago and they where pretty sturdy but eventually got filled with scratches and i had to stop using them, i've never tried their minis tho. will check them out.
i don't think i can get ultimate guards in my shit country, hmm.
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>>156549114
kozmo and kaiju
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>>156549114
Kaiju were supposed to be the U.A.s, but KoA can't read and accidentally make them good.
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>>156549138
kmc hyper mat differ in quality from all the other kmc sleeves
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>>156549114
>first wave
Noble shit
>second wave
BA and U.A
>third wave
Kozmo and Kaiju
>fouth wave
SPYRAL and Subterrors
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>>156548356

White ultra for Yugioh

Waifu for games that aren't run by niggers who let me double sleeve.
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It might be a bit hard to see because I'm too poor to afford a high quality camera but you can clearly see on this black Dragon's Shield sleeve the edges are kind of rough and not smoothly cut like you'd expect.
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>>156549393
>playing that
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>>156549393
>Waifu for games that aren't run by niggers who let me double sleeve.
I fucking hate how I can't use double sleeve in YGO so I just have to use ultra pro for tournaments.
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>>156549013
It's between them and Subterrors. It's pretty clear which one will actually be able to do anything.
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>>156549494
that's pretty awful, i'm really autistic about mismatching cuts. i have to keep each batch of sleeves separate so to not mix them.
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>>156549904
So, Subterror?
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>>156550118
You can't be serious.
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God fucking damn it
When will Minerva be reprinted
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>>156550545
Never, buy a copy now fool.
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Is this card worth running in a Bahamut-Treatoad deck? Protects water monsters in battle against non-water monsters and potentially revives your Norden.
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>>156550545
I have one last train to win it the 4th of december at the LLDS Stage 2 final
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>>156550545
some PGL
>stil no Mefist
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>>156550693
Disregard this, I'm retarded.
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>>156550693
norden is fairy type, git gud
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>>156548356
My mermails use blue ultra pros
My masked HEROES use black ultra pros
My blue-eyes use white ultra pros
My metalfoes use red ultra pros
My fluffals use purple ultra pros
My majespecters use green ultra pros
My ABCs will use yellow ultra pros
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>>156547450
>first you call them ruriraptors
>now raid ruris
>not 'lyrical lulus'
use the correct term next time desu
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>>156550704
Where's that gonna be held?
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>Treatoad stealing the card means floaters won't activate in NA
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>>156550958
There's one in every european country and in Australia, I'm going to the italian one
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>>156550519
One seems to be a stall control deck, while the other seems to focus on beating your opponent's monster in battle.

I don't know, the format seems to say that stall control has more chance to be competitive.
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>>156548356
I've grown very fond of Monster sleeves, infinitely better than Ultra POS. Have blue for Six-Sams, red for Metalfoes and black for Kozmo.
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>>156551035
I heard the Italian community is really competitive compared to a lot of other countries. Why not go to somewhere with an easier tournament?
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>>156524881
Cool can you fuck off now?
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>>156550881
>People still using ultra pleb

Why?
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>>156551309
Because It is quite literally the only thing locals sells.
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>>156551309
who even cares
i'll gladly take the cheapest sleeves I can get, as long as they fit. more expensive ones do not serve much more of a difference functionally.
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What are decks you play that will probably never get new support?
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>>156550693
>protect Dupe Frog from battle, which also protect the rest of your monster by extension
>set it to bluff, and if your opponent use MST/TT on it, you can revive your Treat from grave
Pretty good idea.
Too bad it doesn't help you turbo into Treat.
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>>156551591
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>>156551571
Not that guy but i had a Nekroz of Valkyrus (and this was back in the DUEA format) ruined because of ultra pro, the sides can break open very easily compared to pretty much any other sleeves. Never again.
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>>156550881
>>156551129
Red for metals? I was kind of thinking something like pic related.
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>>156551789
I want Sister to Gagagag on my dick
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>>156551591
After the last episode of Arc-V i wouldn't count on it, or at least for a long time.
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>>156551309
If I can't use my sleeves with designs then might as well use the cheapest shit available.
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>LDK2-ENK05 The White Stone of Ancients
>LDK2-ENK06 Maiden with Eyes of Blue (Ultra Rare)
>LDK2-ENK07 Protector with Eyes of Blue
>LDK2-ENK08 Master with Eyes of Blue
>LDK2-ENK09 Battle Ox

Give me one good reason. Just. Fucking. One. For why Sage wasn't in this. Tell me just one. It doesn't even make them more money necessarily. More people would have bought this shit if Sage were in it so you'd get nostalgia bucks AND tourneyfags as well as vendors in on this.
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>>156551924
They are a FIRE attribute deck anon, think this through.
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>>156545598
>wind witches not doing their job of supporting speedroids, now with crystal wing you cant cheese with raigeki
What?
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>>156551789
Man Gagaga is so frustrating as a deck because it's got some legitimately neat cards, but everything is so crippled by unnecessary restrictions.
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>>156551924
I have ultra pro matte metallic gold sleeves for them.
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>>156551591
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>>156552043
b-but they are also vanilla pends.
>>156552160
you get it.
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>>156552053
>Ruriraptors are shit, just like Melodious and Wind Witches.
>and Wind Witches.
>thus implying Wind Witches aren't good
>thus provoking sarcastic response to insinuation that Wind Witches aren't good
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>>156552023
people are still buying SHVI right? they totally are, definitely enough of them for us to get more money than we're losing out on from the people who don't buy legendary decks. i know i'm right
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>>156551924
Use black sleeves, trust me. Every color other than black and to a lesser extent white, looks weird on Yugioh cards.
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>>156550545
Why didn't this thing get an errata in the Legendary Decks?
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If you sleeve extra deck stuff and main deck stuff for each deck seperately though get a bright/orange-y red and get lime green extra sleeves for the extra for Metalfoes.
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>>156552261
By that logic monarchs should use orange(ish) sleeves because they're effect monsters.
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>>156552493
i do put my rituals on blue sleeves as well.
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>>156551174
yeah it is, but I'm part of it so
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>>156552436
because tewart
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>>156552634
Are they at least gishki/nekroz?
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also, going off with the sleeve question, how do you guys set your pendulum scales and where do you put your face-up extra deck pendulum monsters?
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I am actually having fun playing BLS what the fuck is wrong with me.
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>>156552850
I put my pendulum scales in the pendulum zones and I put my face-up extra deck ontop of the extra deck, obviously.
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>>156551958
Shame. They are quite fun. I was hoping we could get a different line of fusions.
Can't wait to restrain them and forcibly fuse them with plants To make monster plants and alien dragons.
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>>156552058
>all the other s/t like Gagaga X Gagaga and Slash of Clarity will never be printed
>manga support like Gagaga Illusion and Gagaga Barrier never, hope you like ZA RAITNINGU
>no more Xyz monsters

It's not fair, I tell you.
Performapals are allowed to have literally everything printed.
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>>156552849
well, yeah, both of them. if i had cyber angels i would put them on blues as well. and as i mention before, i also have noids in blue sleeves.

i did had my infernity back in the day on black sleeves, maybe i just don't like bright red for sleeves.
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>>156545410
>>156545598
Can someone fill me in on these archetypes? I know about Lunalights and Melodious, but what is Ruriraptor?
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>>156553172
RAIDRAPTOR VANISHING RAINUS NO SO-

RUUUUUUUUUURIIIIIII
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>>156553172
Fan name for Ruri's archetype, Lyrical Luscinas.bbq
They haven't been printed yet, but they're a R1 Spam archetype, so they're shit.
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>>156552967
>>156552850
I actually put my FUED next to my regular ED because I don't want to flip my regular ED up by accident and reveal what's in it.
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>>156552967
you sound like the kinf of player who also declares the name of every card he activates
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>>156553479
There's always the chance they might give us at least one good R1.
But those can also be locked to Winged Beasts too.
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>>156552967
I bet you have consensual sex in the missionary position solely for the purpose of reproduction too
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>>156553575
Why wouldn't you? I hate it when people just starts throwing cards around expecting me to see whatever the fuck they're doing and respond accordingly.
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>>156552850
I put them together in between my main deck and graveyard.

Am I sinner?
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>>156552947
looks like i'm not all alone in this, although i've been avoiding the r4nk spam a little.

I tried to play BLS for a while before this, with mostly just pre-prep and the kid knights, trying to keep him alive with shit like Scolding and Strike, but it didn't work out too well. the new ritual actually feels better than pre-prep and makes me want to drop it entirely, although i bet you could do funny things with ritual sanctuary turning it into Origin
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>>156553775
isn't mathematician glow-up a better herald?
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>>156552947
I think it's fun for what it's worth. Haing a 3K beater that can't be targeted by monster effects and can banish things is cool. It's just not fast enough.
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>>156553775
i should say: sanc could turn the vanilla Luster ritual into Origin, after you pre-prep it and your monster
>>156553948
normal deskbot 3 special deskbot 1 also is, but they seem kind of un-versatile compared to speedmemes
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>>156545598
>>janky otk cats better than hyper-consistent rank 4 spam
In a post Twelve Beasts world, yeah.
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>>156546970
Stop shilling your shitty art
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>>156552947
>>156553775
>not playing the Gaia knights with Cyber Tutubon
It's like you don't even want to play true chaos.
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>>156552165
I feel your pain.
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>>156554117
>>156553948
buuut he can also mill Soul to search the kid knights, or envoy of chaos if I need to banish and have a handtrap in a pinch, so I guess it's probably a good idea thanks
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Do you guys think they will ever continue the cthulhu mythos cards? I really wish they brought more of the gods in.
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>>156555213
aren't we missing 1 synchro?
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>>156555289
we're still missing
cthuga
n'tss
nyarla
azathoth
dreamland
trapezoid
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>>156555213
When we got this card I felt like there was going to be more to the theme somehow, but then it just ended and we got the Burgess instead.

>>156555289
They made 2 fusions, 2 xyz, and 2 synchros.
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>>156555549
>we got hastorr before cthuga
somebody tcg-side has a R4nk and ophion boner
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>>156554086
what is this about about him being untargettable? is it just "searching" Shield with the new S/T Foolish and then setting it with a Spell Counter from Gateway or what?
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>>156555549
>2 synchros.
wait 2? i've only seen 1 which is the level 4
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>>156555289
>>156555213
>elder god
n'tss and noden
>outer god
nyarla and azathoth
>great old one
hastur and chthugha

And dreamland and the trapezohedron.
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>>156555796
One of the Djinns that isn't banned. Otherwise Kozmos just fuck him up.
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>>156555814
aw man no ritual :(
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Lets name the most cancerous engines nowadays:

- Terrortop + Taketomborg (I refuse to call this "Speedroid Engine")
- Brillant Fusion + Trick Clown
- Gofu + Metalfoes Adamante
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>>156555864
demolisher is level 3, in case you were planning to use it with Origin
I'm a little fond of cursenchanter though, since he is level 4 and also lets you beat omega/sifr/quasar/crystal wang, unless omega chains his banish trying to nail the knight in your hand or quasar negates your spell
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is this a cthulhu mythos card?
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>>156556148
does anyone actually care about brilliant fusion anymore?
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>>156556372
Brewfags that tries to make it work with Madolche, Lightsworn, etc.

Remember, cancer engines =/= good or meta engines.
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>>156555213
In 5 years they'll print Demonbane.
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>>156556370
inspired but not in particular.
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>>156556148
>- Gofu + Metalfoes Adamante
How is that an engine?
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>>156556447
I honestly cannot believe that people were actively trying to get Brilliant Fusion banned or limited at one point when the only place that it saw play that was actually worth a fuck was Monarchs and even then that was only sometimes
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>>156556447
Honest question, was Brilliant Madolche even good? It feels like the ammount of shit you have to pray to go right in the typical Madolche play was already bad enough, mixing that with an inconsistent engine seems funky.
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>>156556447
>tier 4 engines are so unfair :<<<<
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SPYRALs will conquer the game and there is nothing we can do about it.
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I use brilliant engine in Galaxy.dek to search Serpent, who can get Galaxy Knight out of the hand and also make Power Tools to search Galaxy Zero.
and the double summons help Wizard especially, and it can mill GEPD for Zero and Knight

Even though Galaxy Soldier actually works in Galaxy-Eyes.dek, I don't run it in this one since I ran out of meme points
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>>156556517
ew.
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>>156556913
It's fun as fuck and might catch people on surprise. But it's pretty much like Synchro Quasar IMO, it's begging to blow on your face while you're trying to set up.

>>156556914
I didn't mentioned Lightsworn, m8.
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So, are zodiacs worth shit?
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Do you have any kind of favorite player, /dng/?
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>>156556517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deg1RHwmKpo
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How is Pot of Desires in Mermails?
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>>156558296
don't
pot of desires is overrated
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>>156558358
>card that is run in almost every single meta deck is overrated

/dng/ is the only place where I see you denialfags at still. I know it hurts but god damn it, just get over it already
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Anyone here like Nirvana paladin or Meteorburst in Metals?

>>156558580

I still her people say its bad at locals desu.
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>>156558739
you run meteor burst because ultimaya
don't know why you'd run nirvana
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>>156558739
People at locals usually play casual decks, most of which don't mix well with Desires.
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>take a break from ABCs and start using Blue eyes in checkmate
>come across ABC player
>he gets a shit hand both games
>I know because I play the deck [then later checked the replays]
>I say "lol I thought abcs were good" as I attack for game
>I sign off immediately as he's typing a rebuttal
On a scale of 1-10 how salty do you think he was?
Also I didn't come across as a douchebag, did I?
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What do you throw into a extra deck when you're playing a deck that doesn't use that shit? Is there anything "funny" that I could use just for the sake of getting a giggle?
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>Moraltach recently semi-limited in OCG
>decks that splash the Artifact engine still opt for Scythe and getting the pesudo Domain effect over non target popping a face up
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/archives/7661850.html
That's some serious fucking powercreep right there senpai
inb4 "b-b-b-b-BUT TEAM TOURNEY DUN COUNT
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>>156558985
ABC, Genghis, Orichalc, Dante, Treatoad and Spirit Dragon.
GRWC in the side.
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What should I change?
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>>156558918
Kill xourself, tripshit.
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>>156559063
isn't dimension barrier just better
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>>156558985
sanwitch, monkey monkey king, fusionist, rare fish
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>>156558918
10/10. and no you're not a dick because this is a dog eat dog game. fuck being nice.
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>>156558985
Put what is meta to use with Ghost Reaper & Winter Cherries.
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>You can throw Rat and the Cont. spell to give any deck access to a 1 card quickplay pop + a R4, which can include Dweller or Raff for unbreakable boards

>1 card combo

I can't help but to think this'll get hit.
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>>156559140
The way you take screenshots.
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>>156556913
It's better than most other things you can do with the deck, but it just contributes more inconsistency to an already inconsistent deck, and doesn't really make it any less frail
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>>156559201
Dimension Barrier isn't also a monster with decent attack
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>>156559140
Probably your life decisions.
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>>156559178
Done! What else do you want me to do anon-chan?
>>156559208
That's what I'm talking about.
>>156559140
Posting the whole deck?
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>>156559249
Sorry about that.
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>>156559237
You realize cards like Kaikyoku can't target themselves right? And even if you weren't talking about that, that isn't a 1 card combo, I know math isn't really /dng/s strong suit but seriously come on
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>>156559627
>I know math isn't really /dng/s strong suit
Neither is reading. Nor gym.
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I heard Yang Zings can make the new Cardian easily. Is this true? How?
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>>156558580
Not that guy, but the card is indeed overrated. That doesn't mean it isn't good. But it overrated. Plenty of deck still top without it.
I'd never prioritize Desires over any other card of a deck. I'd only ever try to get my hands on it after a deck has been completed.

But lots of folks somehow has this idea that Desires will somehow by itself make a deck good. But that's by no means how it is.
Desires is but a card that makes already great decks a little better. And in a competitive environment that admittedly does a lot, but it doesn't stop the card from being overrated as fuck.
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>>156559727
1+1+2+2+4
Anti spell, trap and plus 500 ATK DEF.
Difficult to realize though.
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>>156559918
>I'd never prioritize Desires over any other card of a deck

I don't think I've ever seen anyone make that claim. The only thing that's said about Desires is that if your deck can run it, it should run it. A most decks, whether they be meta or not, can afford to run it in most cases
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>>156560052
if your deck can't afford to run pot of memes it's already guaranteed not meta
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>>156553575

usually i'll do something like
>pay any costs
>place card on the table
>"[card name]?" (declaring the activation while implicitly asking for a response)
>proceed with resolution of the effect

i generally follow the layout dictated on yugioh mats, although i tend to place my scales sideways and face-up extra deck pendulums below the s/t row spread out.
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>>156560781
I do the same thing except
>"Activate [card name] effect"
>"Any response?"
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Ever wonder if people from your locals use this general?
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>>156561049
i've talked about my locals several times here so if anyone does, they haven't mentioned it.
epic cards and games
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>>156561049
Live in a spanish speaking 3rd world that I had to say "CARTA DE LA MUERTE" do nearly everyone when I said I was looking for Card of Demise.
So not really.
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>>156560039
And then easily tributed by a kaiju or an errant Monarch Storm Forth into Tyrant Neptune.

Life is pain, but also Kaiju are getting limited soon? Probably not though, cause they're the only out to most things.
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>>156561049

No, but reigonals on the other hand.

>>156558823
I mean it's not hard to summon. Maybe I'll throw it in for fun at locals or something.
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>>156561049
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1172653
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>>156561258
>immune to spell
>Stormforth
? ? ?

Kaiju shouldn't be counted since it kill everything.

4 non-tuner is too much of a task anyway, it's better to make multiple Baxia instead.
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>>156560039
Oh ok gotcha. I'm looking for a deck that can make the Cardian synchros, because Cardians don't do enough for me.

Anyone know of any?
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>>156559523
>>156559140
Anyone?
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>>156561439
are you confusing Gokou with Chaos Giant

anyway I think he was messing around since nobody uses stormforth anymore, let alone tyrant neptune
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>>156561258
Kaiju suffer from the same thing as Metalfoes where you'd have to limit/ban all of them if they were ever hit because they all serve the same generic purpose. Which isn't out of the question, but that's just how it is.
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>>156561049
Nope, I always tell them this place is shit and they should avoid it.
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>>156561549
Read the whole conversation.
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>>156561049
yes, and let me tell them
Winda is a slut
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>>156561549
I was half kidding. There is an errant combo Tyrant Neptune.dek roaming around, but it's petdeck at best.
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>>156561643
why would you expect someone to know how trash cards like yang zing work without an explanation desuka
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>>156561049
Someone claimed to be from my locals here once

Show yourself Bulletproof person
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>>156561892
If you don't know most cards already that means you're a scrub.
Besides I already said it's anti spell trap and gain 500 ATK DEF, that means he didn't read too.
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>>156562253
if you can't describe what zefranaga does without looking it up, you're the biggest scrub here actually. what's really important in yugioh is trivia about shit cards
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>>156561892
Who the fuck doesn't know about Yang Zings by now?
Are you one of those shitters that insist on playing nothing but TCG/TCG with netdecked meta decks only?
How else would you be completely unfamiliar with such a large, commonly supported, and above all commonly played archetype?
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>>156562379
>zefranaga
Can only special summon shaddolls and zefras on scale effect
Monster effect is if you summon it you can return one pendulum scale to the hand?

I'm gonna check right after this.
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What cards are part of the meme brigade?
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>>156562458
Let me guess, you're about to prove your retardation once and for all, and try to shill Metalfoes YZ.
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>>156562253
OP here. I was being a shit. Kaiju is the only thing that can handle Gokou easily. I know stormforth doesn't work on him.
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>>156562572
>look up a trash card on pro
>get it slightly wrong anyway
>claim to look after making a post
seems legit
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>>156562574
This one, Jam the Frog, Stratos...
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>>156562574
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>>156562576
What? I just said that they are and have been commonly played. The only way you'd managed to avoid them would be to stick to the above mentioned format only. And I can only assumed that you've never climbed ladder online or just played against randoms either.
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>>156562705
Vanilla YZ then? This is even better.
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>>156562458
I don't know about that guy, but all I know about them is that they're Wyrms and memelords keep trying to shill MFYZ as meta.
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>>156562379
>he doesn't learn every card as soon as they're revealed
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>>156562651
git gud
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>>156561049
>>156561347
>3 people in florida
m-meetup?
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>>156562796
>he doesn't know new cards before they're revealed
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>>156562979
>he doesn't make cards himself
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>>156561347
>chad
>niger
am i getting rused?
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>>156562796
fuck ur spongememe shit
>>156562979
come on man
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>>156563126
>/dng/ on geography
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>>156562770
>>156562784
Two (2) things stand out about Yang Zings.
They float like crazy.
And they apply special effects onto synchros that used them as materials.

Now knowing the individual names of them, what yang zing actually does what in particular or whatever is another thing altogether. You'd likely have to be familiar with them in particular to know them that well. I wouldn't even be able to name that myself.

But to not know the two (2) above mentioned and very distinctive characteristics of Yang Zings? I would have no choice but to assume you aren't all that familiar with the game then.
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>>156563297
I know that small black dude sacks two cards out of the hand to summon more two and the blue nigga makes them immune to traps.
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>>156563418
>sacks two cards out
did you mean to say that he pitches two cards
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>>156563459
ye sorry, I've been playing too much pokémon.
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>https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1172653#
>tfw no one else from Puerto Rico
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>>156563297
I'm not unfamiliar with the game, it's just that YZ aren't extremely relavent and I usually run into this asshole online 60% of the time. For a YZ decklist?
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>>156563459
You mean that he drops two cards right?
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>Ties of Brethren techable
>R4NK entirely possible
>Shit that adds other shit back to hand
>5 Honests
>Fusion that increases ATK by banishing from grave
>Fusion that keks at Special Summoned monsters
>Can't be targeted by effects, destroyed by battle or cards

What do we need to get better? Is it just one thing or are we miles behind?
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>>156563549
nadie quiere tu país de mentira, ok?
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>>156563587
they needs waifus that are prettier
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>>156563587
you're fucked by being used by a shitty heroine
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>>156559627
but they can

Kaikyoku has the same wording as Ametrix

We didn't have any continuous spell that could target itself to destroy something and do something before
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>>156563418
jiaotu and bixi, no one really has to know their names and its konami's fault.
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>>156563549
it looks like people have to sign up and put tags onto it so perhaps other puerto ricans just havent bothered do do so.
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What are some good techs for graydle kaijus?
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>>156563587
A field spell that searches and provides banish protection.
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>>156563735
The big difference between Ametrix and Kaikyoku is that one isn't a fucking continuous spell you idiot. How do you expect a cont. spell effect to resolve if it is no longer on the field? Don't make me bring up Tenki and make you look even more retarded then you've already made yourself
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>>156563604
matate maricon
>>156563820
nah you don't need to sign up because i just added my location (the PR one)
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>>156563297
>>156563553
You're a scrub if you don't try most new decks when they're out.
Regardless of they will become a meta or not, the knowledge of a deck might save your ass when you're facing against it.
If you don't want to play it, at least read the cards. Then again /dng/ is a petdeck central where everyone is a scrub that doesn't read.
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>>156563941
except that Tenki doesn't target anything to destroy, you fucking retard

it's a lot different
Aquarium Stage conflicts with the ordinary way Continuous Spells work yet I don't see you spouting your bullshit

fucking remember that card effects override card mechanics 99% of the time, so if Konami wants Kaikyoku to be able to target itself they will do so

discussion is moot at this moment, though, we need to expect for rulings
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>>156563587
They really need one Melodious monster who does something useful when sent to the graveyard.
It would do wonders for the deck.
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>>156563960
te faltaron las tildes, hermano.
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>>156564114
>You're a scrub if you don't try most new decks when they're out.
>Regardless of they will become a meta or not, the knowledge of a deck might save your ass when you're facing against it.
This.
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>>156564114
Except YZ aren't enough of a threat for any of your "otherworldly knowledge from experience" to help any more than simply reading the cards when they're played already helps

Funny of you to talk bad about petdeck central while defending Yang Zings though
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>>156564115
It's not about Tenki targeting anything you stupid fucking idiot. Tenki is a god damn continuous spell, it needs to stay on the field to resolve. Kaikyoku needs to follow those same rules because it is also a continuous spell. Now read Kaikyoku again and try to explain how the fuck you expect it to resolve if it would destroy itself
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>>156564114
Sorry I'm not playing your petdeck then
>>
knowing lots of cards makes your matches go faster.

just last week at locals one of my opponents was surprised that i knew what every single one of his scrap cards did and didn't have to take 5 seconds to read over each one.
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>>156564270
I'm not defending Yang Zing, I'm saying that there's no reason to read most of the new cards that's out, not knowing what Yang Zing does when it's has been out for a long time means you're a scrub.

>>156564297
I don't even play Yang Zing.
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>>156564291
>Kaikyoku needs to follow the same rules

just as the Aquarium Stages follow the same rules, right?

just fucking accept that if Konami wants Kaikyoku to target itself it will

it already has the wording, and effects override card mechanics ALWAYS
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>>156561049
I've told everyone I know at locals, at one point, I visit this place. I found a well known tripfriend who posted here before that way at my locals.
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>page 10
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>>156564160
Useful for the monsters you control or like stunshit?

Maybe "When this card is sent from the field to the graveyard, special summon 2 melodious monsters with different levels from your hand or deck."

Or
"When this card is sent from the field to the graveyard due to a card your opponent controls, banish 1 Melodious card from your graveyard and 1 card from your opponent's side of the field."
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>>156564979
coulda used that as the op pic ya dingus
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>>156564920
What the fuck are you god damn talking about with this Aquarium stage shit? Kaikyoku DESTROYS shit you insane dumbass. How the fuck do you expect, a continuous spell to resolve its effect, if it is NO LONGER ON THE FIELD because it GOT DESTROYED by ITSELF?
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>you should know what my shitty petdeck does, it's been around for years
>it really could help you, i swear
thanks dng I needed a laugh
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>>156565076
Still can. Nowadays images are only locked to threads, not boards.
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>>156565264

new thread
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>>156565039
Something that either pluses you, or something that forwards your own field like some kind of special summon or something.
Lazuli really is a good example even if all that card does is pick up normal monsters from the graveyard. The benefits it in conjunction with Crystal Rose provides in Gem-Knight decks is pretty impressive. Just a shame Lavalval Chain got banned though.
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>>156564171
yo no hablo con gramatica perfecta en el internet
eso es de maricones
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>>156561663
Winda is pure! Puree!
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