/spslgg/ - Space Logistic Sim Games General

>Race into Space
Race to the moon between the USSR and US. A management sim that is adapted from a board game, and with an interface that was considered shitty in the 90's, it's still pretty good. Free.
http://www.raceintospace.org/

>Buzz Aldrin's Space Program Manager
Race into Space's younger, slightly worse cousin. Shinier and slightly better interface, though, which might be a selling point for some. It's a Slitherine game - not much else needs to be said.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/308270/

>Orbiter
The big boy spaceflight game. Simulates lots of real and fictional spacecraft. Absurd numbers of mods to add just about anything you can imagine.
http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/
http://www.orbithangar.com/

>Space Engine
Space screenshot maker with an entire procedural universe to fly around. Is supposed to someday get actual gameplay. Free.
http://en.spaceengine.org/

>Rogue System
DCS in space. In early access, so approach with caution, but seems to be shaping up pretty well so far.
http://imagespaceinc.com/rogsys/

>Children of a Dead Earth
Claims to be a "Realistic" space combat simulator. Not really true, and some consider the lead dev to be kind of an idiot, but still an interesting project nonetheless.
https://childrenofadeadearth.wordpress.com/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/476530

>House of the Dying Sun
Space anime combat villain sim.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/283160/

>Rodina
Like an itty-bitty No Man's Sky. Lots of exploration in a single solar system. Early Access, so take caution.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/314230/

>OpenTTD
A transport and logistics systems simulation game. Free Transport Tycoon remake with tons of addons to keep you busy for the rest of forever.
https://www.openttd.org/en/

>Project Highrise
Think Simtower with more stripped down gameplay elements. More casual for sure, but still plenty of fun.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/423580/

Off-topic Discord:
https://discord.gg/nUy5x67

Has anyone actually tried CoaDE yet?

>>156362749
Yeah, it's ok. It's a turn-based system, so that might not be so great, and the simulation is a mess right now - the lead dev managed to completely fuck up nukes for the public release, so that they were pretty much useless.

>>156362534
Who /escapevelocity/ here?

>>156363225
Haven't played that in years. Have you tried Endless Sky yet, anon?

Actually, should add that to the OP - it's free and open source. Lots of mods and shit.

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>>156362749
>>156362945
The UI is absolute garbage, too. It's really cluttered, and all of the graphics are really low-quality programmer art. I even recall hearing that they're storing their texture maps as low-res .png format files right now, which is really, really bad.

>>156363648
How autistic from 0 to spreadsheet simulator is the building editor and battle system?

>>156365778
The battle system isn't all that bad, really. It's realtime, and really hectic, but the editor is pure spreadsheet tactics.

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*long thoughtful sigh and memories of what should have been*

>>156367196
Why would you post that ?

;n;

>>156367897
I'm so sorry D:

T-the pain... It's still real.

>>156365778
The editor is locked until you play through more than half the game. Kind of bullshit, desu.

>>156369943
So you do what? Play with already existing designs? Is there a storyline involved?

>>156370501
There's a really badly written plotline, yeah. War between factions after a massive cataclysm forces humanity off of the Earth.

>>156370741
So any hope for the game to become worthwhile in the future?

>>156371801
The lead dev is really full of himself, but between the potential for custom scenarios, and his willingness to update things, it might still have a chance to be pretty fun.

ded

>>156375320

ded

>>156367196
Post creatures?

>>156382225
Aaaa! Don't convince me to reinstall it. Are the servers even still alive?

>>156382416
Pretty sure. Loads of people still making crazy shit with the creature creator and posting it on YouTube.

>>156382704
Hmm tempting. Maybe once I have Internet here at my new apartment until then it would be kinda pointless.

>>156380198
>>156375320

Nice thread, but needs more people.

ded thred

>>156400219
this desu senpai

DED
E
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>>156407391
WE NEED SOME ADRENALINE, STAT!

Anyone here has Orbiter? How hard is the learning curve? Is there anything to do other than launching and doing manoeuvres?

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>>156410675
There's a lot of tutorials and operating manuals around. As long as you're willing to read or watch a video, and play along with the tutorial you're watching, it's not really all that difficult.

>>156421847
I'm cool with that but I was wondering if the bulk of the game was learning orbital mechanics to get to space or if you can do something once you are there, like repairing stuff, performing scientific experiments and whatnot

>>156422125
Depends on the module you're looking to use. What kind of missions did you have in mind, Anon? Stuff like deploying payloads and such is possible, but anything much more complex is, as far as I know, not implemented. You can't, for example, actually use a space telescope or something like that.

It's more akin to something like Microsoft Flight Simulator.

>>156422490
I don't know desu
Something like repair missions or actually assembling something in orbit with the payloads you carry and stuff like that

there's already a space game thread
>>156357362

>>156423759
Orbital assembly is definitely possible.

http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=3062
http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=3388

These addons, when used in conjunction with something like Payload Manager (http://www.kulch.spb.ru/Eng/PM_project.html) allow you to build really complex custom launch vehicles and orbital complexes.

>>156424353
Read the OP. This thread is for space and logistic sims, not space opera meme adventure games.

>>156424386
Oh thanks for that
I'll look into it

>>156424353
>literally two games in that general

>>156424353
>they're trying to claim all the fucking space games on steam, and just shitpost about vaporware and VISION

ded as fug desu

OI
/egg/ claimed chode
Though I can delete it from the OPpad if you want.
Are you guys sure you can survive?

>>156430454
We don't even know the full list of games welcome here yet, we are still trying to find our niche.

We were also discussing about using /cbg/ as an attention grabbing name and include city building games too, as they can't clearly survive on their own.

>>156430770
Ah, good idea.
Also, public.etherpad-mozilla.org
Use that instead of a followup post.
Etherpads are editable by anyone, but you can restore it from previous versions to unfug it is someone's being a cunt.

>>156430970
And you might want to come up with a catchier name.
/egg/ is simple, /egg/ sticks in the mind.
/spslgg/ does not.

>>156431052
Oh, and do some more advertising around autism generals like /egg/ or /mcg/
And maybe /v/ if you can stomach going there.

>>156431132
>mcg
anon, are you trying to kill us on day one?

>>156431223
/mcg/ isn't THAT bad.
You'd have to do it at a more autistic hour though, like when people are talking about programming or something.

>>156431052
Suggestions are more than welcome, my only idea so far was /slcbg/ - Space, logistics and city building general, which is not really any more catch than the current name.

>>156431414
/slogg/ for space logistics.
Not sure how you'd incorporate /cbg/ stuff.

>>156431549
It's more about survival and being more than three anons posting about 1/10th of the game list

>>156431627
Then /slogg/ is good.
Pronounceability is key, for one.
Advertise too, there are probably plenty of anons from /cbg/ floating around.

>>156431414
/slg/ - Space & Logistics Sim Games General

>>156431549
Considering how sporadic /cbg/ stuff can be, and how the logistics and management sims for some space games can be, there's quite a bit of crossover there that'll be healthy for keeping this general going.

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>>156362534
>Off-topic Discord:
>https://discord.gg/nUy5x67
>>156362558

>>156433708
Yes, what about the Discord?

>>156434306
It should be removed from the OP next time, it has no place here

>>156434556
Sure it does. It's a place for off-topic chat. If you don't like it, that's your problem. A substantial portion of the people in the thread use it.

>>156434678
>a substantial portion of kspg use it
FTFY
this is no kspg

>>156435712
>kspg
What's that, anon? No such thing as that anymore.

>>156435783
>Discord channel literally named kerbal space program general

>>156435838
No it isn't.

>>156435920
You just changed it and it's fine

>>156436315
OP here - I'm literally trying to get this all off the ground in one go - things are a bit dicey here as a result. We're not trying to make another shitposting general or anything, and we're not trying to kill any other generals.

>>156436443
Then why would you include the discord responsible for all of the woes?

stay out of /egg/ you faggots

>>156437229
see
>>156434678
>If you don't like it, that's your problem.

>>156437715
>if you don't like it, ignore the shitposters leaking to other generals
This is (you)
I don't care about the discord. I don't want to use it. I care about the fact that that's where the malicious aspects of space penis were, and that there is nothing stopping them from leaking.
I cannot ignore a threat.
Which is what your shitty discord is.

>>156438332
OP here.
I don't really give a shit either way. Most of the people that wanted to kick this general off are in the discord, but the link isn't really all that necessary. If I end up making the next thread, I'll amend the OP to remove it.

>malicious aspects of space penis
Sounds like a really good band name.

just flying by to see what you think of this https://childrenofadeadearth.wordpress.com/
it`s a scientifically "correct" spacecombat simulator. Havent seen anything like this before. It still lacks content but i`ve been waiting for this pretty long. (
Reminds me of Kerbal but with less micromanagement)

>>156440490
Read the OP.

>>156363225
Love that game

>>156440490
It's already in the OP, if you look a fee posts above, there is an anon discussing about it

space is for fags

>>156362534
Is Factoria welcome here? It's scifi logistic.

I wonder if this general can survive. Looks promising.

>>156435838
>>156435783
>>156435712

modder passing by, what happened to /kspg/ and where can I reach its denizens now?

>>156449047
I think the same but I dont play spess games yet so I cant really contribute.

>>156449217
I'm here. Do talk to me.

>Claims to be a "Realistic" space combat simulator. Not really true, and some consider the lead dev to be kind of an idiot, but still an interesting project nonetheless.

What did he mean by this? Not really true? Could someone explain? I'm also curious what the dev did to seem full of himself.

>>156449217
pls come online

>>156449584
If you play a city building or logistics game like SimCity or Transport Tycoon, feel free to post it!

>>156450593
The simulation lacks a lot of things that quite a few people think are kind of important, like nuclear pumped lasers and stuff like Orion engines and Casaba Howitzers, and the reasons for not including them are pretty inconsistent.
The lead dev is also really self assured, which can (combined with the above,) make them come across like a bit of an asshole.

simulation games are fun

don't die while I'm asleep

red 10

not yet

>>156449217
Kspg is no more

Which NGC object would you fuck?
Is it in the M catalogue?

Should I play CoaDE

>>156466924
DO IT FAGET

>>156466924
It's nice to at least give it a little try.

>>83849523
>being this mad about replying to old posts

>>156471357
What?

ded

Did anyone play Train Fever? They're coming out with a new one, Transport Fever, that seems to be trying to be the spiritual successor to Transport Tycoon. I hope they work on the economy though, because it was stultifyingly basic in Train Fever.

>>156466924
eh.

>>156369943
You can unlock module/ship design in the in-game 'wiki', you can't use your designs in the campaign till you complete it or whenever unlock the chance.

>>156362749
>>156440490
The AI at the moment is trash and doesn't come close to a person and there is no mulitplayer but the ship design isn't too bad. Some things are good and simulated well so you need to take design into account (backing tough brittle armour like metal with something like kevlar to prevent spalling, whipple shields to disintegrate a projectile to allow it to spread over a larger area on the main shield.) but other things are not. To speak of the worst, chemical interactions aren't in (Lithium water pumps, HMWPE flourine tanks, ect) nor is thermal mechanical failure. (Lead gun barrels that don't warp from heat rather it'll just fail when it reaches melting temp)

>>156452124
He says he hasn't included the Orion engines and cassaba Howitzers because he hasn't found "enough" unclassified information regarding the specifications of these systems. Nuclear lasers too, maybe. He doesn't include other things for other reasons which he talks about which are more arguably for his own reasons. (Light gas guns, explosive/nuclear launched projectiles and ram accelerators.)

>>156452124
>The simulation lacks a lot of things that quite a few people think are kind of important, like nuclear pumped lasers and stuff like Orion engines and Casaba Howitzers, and the reasons for not including them are pretty inconsistent.
The lead dev is also really self assured, which can (combined with the above,) make them come across like a bit of an asshole.
You going to provide the dev with the fomulae and numbers required to simulate said technologies?

>>156452124
>The lead dev is also really self assured, which can (combined with the above,) make them come across like a bit of an asshole.
>This goes back to a recurring problem that I've seen crop up a lot with many of these designs. To date, as far as I am aware, no nuclear detonation has ever been contained or controlled within a small container. At 10 million K, no material can withstand a nuclear detonation, and there is no data on how many microseconds something can stay together when a nuke detonates inside it.
>Regardless, a giant cone of plasma is still pretty feasible for a drive, providing you're okay with far lower efficiencies than what the papers predicted. I could model the plasma jet as less of a jet and more of a fat cone or hemisphere, and the rest would work.
>I am a little iffy on doing original calculations rather than taking calculations from peer reviewed papers. However, I have done it for one particular system in game. The explosive lens on the nuclear devices is completely classified, so the equations governing it's implosion is approximated based on various sources. I could do something similar in this case.
>With all that in mind, implementing the Orion drive is something I have mulled over a lot over the last two years working on this project. I will say that it will not be in the base game when it ships, however if I ever do further post-ship updates/patches/content, the Orion drive would be very high on the priority list.

>>156471357
>replying to 1 year and 351 day old posts
16

f

>2 hours since last post

WEW
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W

>>156486507

Your general is a little too dead to survive if it doesn't even have some dedicated memes and stuff.
4xg is still /refugee/ so you might be able to find some discussion there.

>>156477141
Not my job to do the research or develop the game for him.

>>156477606
>This goes back to a recurring problem that I've seen crop up a lot with many of these designs. To date, as far as I am aware, no nuclear detonation has ever been contained or controlled within a small container. At 10 million K, no material can withstand a nuclear detonation, and there is no data on how many microseconds something can stay together when a nuke detonates inside it.

That isn't how an Orion device works. At all. So he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about in the slightest as it is.

>>156477606
>This goes back to a recurring problem that I've seen crop up a lot with many of these designs. To date, as far as I am aware, no nuclear detonation has ever been contained or controlled within a small container. At 10 million K, no material can withstand a nuclear detonation, and there is no data on how many microseconds something can stay together when a nuke detonates inside it.
That's not how Orion drives work though...

>>156504987
>>156505049
Is it a power thing?
http://childrenofadeadearth.boards.net/thread/62/information-required-model-orion-drive

>>156507320
What the actual fuck.
That entire paragraph makes no sense at all. He seems to have no actual understanding of how an Orion device actually works.

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>>156509186
He doesn't believe the propellent when turned into plasma will be able to arc as they have said, (In a line instead of everywhere) and he can't find the proof that such a device is possible, either.

>>156510704
If his logic is: no public documentation for part = no part in game, then his ideas about it don't matter. It's not like he is saying it's impossible to make despite overwhelming evidence of the opposite...unless I completely misunderstood the problem here

>>156504987
>Not my job to do the research or develop the game for him.
He sure does the research a lot better than you then.

>That isn't how an Orion device works. At all. So he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about in the slightest as it is.
See >>156510704

>>156512017
It's impossible to make a reasonably accurate simulation of an Orion drive. Good thing the dev included black box propulsion tech so you can create an Orion drive according to whatever stats you deed realistic.

>Dev explains nicely why that he couldn't find enough data on Orion drives but in the future he might fill in the blanks so you can have it in game
>Dev is an asshole and full of himself!
>He MUST include Orion drives because muh feelings. Feelings trump arguments backed by research.

>>156512096
Ok, but why are you angry at him? He sticks to his logic. he's not advocating wrong ideas or using wrong facts.
If he can't find info on it, he wont be making it, i dont get what's so outrageous about this

>>156512096
so you already have the tools to make an Orion drive yourself with the specs you like and you are still mad at him for not serving you an Orion drive?

>>156512362
>>156512564
I was agreeing. I'm not the OP no need to get angry.

>>156420508
>>156417841
>Trump becomes President
>Buys Mriya
>Makes it a gunship

>>156510704
Yes, because he's never heard of a nuclear shaped charge. Unfortunately for him, nuclear shaped charges exist, and are the basis for nuclear bunker busters.

>>156417841

That plane looks very happy.

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>>156514984

0-4 burger
5-9 bizza

is there a genre more comfy than city building?
>that jazz soundtrack to SC4

>>156516437
I really want a comfy Sims x Banished style game with modding support
It'd really be the comfiest game ever.

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>>156516326
burger it is
:^)
IT'S STILL NOT HERE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FALCON HEAVY WHEN

>>156516437
>implying SC3K doesn't have the far superior soundtrack
Really love the way they carried over some of the musical cues from 3k into 4. Shame the guy that wrote their soundtracks just writes jingles for commercials now.

>>156514135
If he doesn't find it while drunkenly browsing Project Rho, then it doesn't exist and is physically impossible.

I KNOW IT DOESNT FIT HERE BUT IM ANGRY

ANGRY ABOUT ANNO
NEW DLC DROPPED TODAY WHICH FINALLY ADDED IN GAMEPLAY LIKE THE OLDER ONES SO WHY COULDNT THEY HAVE JUST HAD IT THERE FROM THE START REEEEE

>>156526630
Anno is definitely welcome here, anon.

>>156527848

THEY JUST ADDED A NEW DLC PACK WHICH ADD CYBORGS.
WHICH IS AWESOME.
AND A BUNCH OF NEW ZONES, INCLUDING TWO TROPICS ONES WHICH FEEL LIKE THE OLD ANNOS APPARENTLY BY HAVING A BUNCH OF SMALLER ISLANDS DOTTED AROUND.
AND YOU CAN HAVE SEA BATTLES IN ANY ZONE NOW.

PROBABLY CANT HAVE ROVER BATTLES ON THE MOON THO, SADLY.

BUT FUCK YOU BLUE BYTE YOU GIGANIGGERS WHY WASNT THIS IN ON RELEASE. REE.

Also why isnt it in the season pass you fuckos.

>>156528313
I still play 2070/2170. Haven't bothered with 2205 yet, should I bother? I don't like giving Ubisoft money if they don't deserve it.

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>>156529414

>2170
My. Nigga.

I just wish building on the seafront stuff was a bit easier, when I last played that you had to build roads on the seabed which was a bit of a pain.
2205 is pretty cool, just because the whole building tropics / arctic / lunar is pretty neat. That said, the fighting only happening in designated fighting zones was hella gay.

This dlc seems to change that though?
I dont know, I might just have to pick it up and see. Im a whore for Anno.

>>156523074
Ah well. At least a good portion of the game exists at the user-editable level. Hopefully somebody'll fix it in the near future.

ded

It's time to watch blade runner and read about M17.

Singalong time!

Somebody once told me...

>>156539783
...that page 9 is not the end.
I'm going to nap for a bit
Try to keep this alive, start some discussion
If nothing else post some banished or anno or cities skylines or something

>>156537601
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep%3F
The movie is... a sad adaptation.

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>10

>>156544645

>>156539783
How great I was going to be

ded

a

>>156553435

Parallel universes when.

>>156558224
>>156553435

>>156544645
>>156563975

Is anyone else even in this fucking thread

>>156573548
"""no"""

>>156573548
Yes. Just looks like we're predominantly Euro right now.

>>156576228
Where the hell is /brit/ then?

>>156579986
Just getting out of bed?

>>156582000
I've bumped this general 8 times and I don't even play these games
maintain your thread desu

>>156582065
Do you play any space-related games, anon?

>>156582584
Not really no. I'm just waiting to see how the thread evolves
>'''financial problems'''
>4chan GOLD account
>server instability
Well we might just disappear before anything happens too.

ded

ded

>>156589273
Intensely.

Just give up and let your abortion of a thread die already.

>>156592040
no u

>>156592040
Nobody is making you stay here.

>>156363472
>endless sky
Anybody have a link? I'm just seeing some game on Steam. Doesn't seem to be anything else.

>>156594597
>some game on Steam
That *is* the game. It's a free download.

ded

>When you don't have time to explore space games

>>156607103
>not playing a neato mobile game like SimpleRockets

ded

I claim this thread in the name of /kspg/

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>>>/vip/12053
REEEEE WHICH ONE OF YOU STOLE MY MEME AND POSTED IT ON 4CHAN PASS™ BOARD?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Industry Manager is out tomorrow. anyone gonna buy it?

KSP IS DEAD LOL

>http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/149292-thank-you-for-everything-and-good-luck/
>PR trash
>https://unreddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/55vozd/theres_no_easy_way_to_say_this/
>submitted 21 hours ago by NathanKell
>All good things must come to an end, and so it is for us. It is time for each of us to move on from Squad. Kerbal Space Program is an incredible game and has truly been a joy to create. We have greatly enjoyed working together with such a tightly-knit, professional, and talented development team, and with such a wonderful community. Over the last update cycle we’ve taken KSP to new heights and achieved great things with such a small team. We’ve finished work on update 1.2 and when Squad releases it, it will be a product of which we can be truly proud. We hope you share that opinion and we hope you enjoy playing it as much as we loved creating it.
>Thank you all for the incredible community support. So long, and thanks for all the snacks!
>Signed, in no particular order, your Kerbal developers Mike (Mu), Bill (Taniwha), Nathanael (NathanKell), Sébastien (Sarbian), Jim (Romfarer), Brian (Arsonide), Chris (Porkjet), Nathan (Claw)

1/2

2/2

From another reddit user:
>I cross checked the game's credits with the Dev flair on here and KSP forums. Looks like Roverdude is the only programmer left. Porjket, Nick, and Pablo remain on Content Design.
Great news for KSP, the modders will be able to fix the game without squid breaking it every month or so. Hopefully squad will ditch working on KSP to keep being the filthiest of the mexicans.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squad_(company)
>The main business of Squad is to provide digital and interactive services to customers like Coca-Cola, Hewlett-Packard, Sony, Samsung and Nissan, including creating websites, guerrilla marketing, multi-media installations, and corporate-image design.[1]

>Image source source
>https://www.develop-online.net/news/squad-devs-blast-kerbal-space-program-studio-for-high-crunch-and-low-pay/0220059

>>156615621
HA!

>>156616335
>unreddit
That secret club business is getting really old.

>>156616335
>>156616598
This isn't the general for KSP. That's /scg/edg/ or whatever they call themselves.

>>156616817
Come now, KSP isn't so lackluster a simulation to be put with ED and SC, neither of which are out of beta ;)

Plus, this guy called it before it died.
>>156615621

>>156617715
>called it
What does that have to do with anything?

KSP is more /egg/ and /scg/edg/ material. Post about it there.

>>156616335
>>156616598
>>156617715
fuck off with your garbage, don't you have your own general?

>>156619874
I checked the catalog, no

>>156618521
>>156619874
I get it, /spslgg/ is too good for that. I mean why would you let plebs into such a blessed community. What is KSP but a silly children's game (They don't even calculate their own dV lol!), pah!

/kspg/ died in the 4chan/chan-that-shall-not-be-named (cripplekike-chan.Does this work?) split-up but it had certainly degenerated before then.

>>156620569
go make one then

>>156620579
I'm pretty sure kspg was around like a month ago.

>>156620579
No, we just don't want to tread on the toes of other generals. We're already upsetting others with our presence, so we'd rather not steal games from other generals, especially games with such small niche communities.

You're just better off posting about it in the other generals - I'm sure you'll get far more replies there.

>>156620781
I was active in the /kspg/ for some time before moot obviously sold out and cripple-kike came along, and the community got split up by that community loss and never recovered. Like I said though it was already degenerating (the shitposting was always a thing but it never got out of control till towards the end.)

>>156620872
>No, we just don't want to tread on the toes of other generals. We're already upsetting others with our presence, so we'd rather not steal games from other generals, especially games with such small niche communities.
>>>156436845
>Games that are definitely not /egg/:
>The general that quite literally cannot be named. The mexican scam artist one. With the shitposters. Fuck off.
Seems you got yourself the potential for some new recruits, friendo.

>>156621774
>Seems you got yourself the potential for some new recruits, friendo.

Nope. Because, again, that migrated to /scg/edg/.

>>156620761
/scg/edg/
That place is nothing more than an e-celeb circle jerk that is worshiping vapor-ware and memes. (As it has literally always been considering there is no games to play yet it's existed for as long as those games got crowd-funded.)

I thought this thing alone would interest people and don't really mean to start some kind of 4chan rebellion or anything, so I'll just take my leave.

I do hope you fellas take the time to look within yourselves and find the heart to live in harmony with KSP.

>>156624050
The post you quoted invited you to create a new thread and call it kspg if you want to talk about that game and feel that other generals aren't good enough.

See if you can find someone still interested in kspg, but this is not the place

ded