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>[Nero Festival ~2016 Autumn~ event from 9.28 to 10.10]
>http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20160928.php
- Farm medals to spend in the event shop
- Farm rose petals to spend in a depleting roulette
- 4* Nero (Saber) animation update
>Event CEs:
- 5* Joint Recital: +15% Buster/Crit damage, +1 Rose Petal drops [Shop]
- 5* Princess of White Roses: Guts [1 time, 1 HP], 10% starting NP charge, +100% damage during event [Rose petal gacha]

>[Nero Festival gacha]
Servants
-5* Nero Bride [Saber, Limited]
-4* Nero [Saber]
-3* Caesar [Saber]
-3* Romulus [Lancer]
-3* Boudicca [Rider]

Limited CEs
-5* This is My Honor: NP, Crit damage +15%, +3 stars per turn, +1 Gold Medal drop
-4* The First Legion: Defense +8%, NP damage +15%, +1 Silver Medal
-3* Lunar Cry: +10% Buster, -20% Debuff resist [Demerit], +1 Bronze medal

>News and Reminders
-Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
-New vers - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
-Mashu Kyrielight's voice actress has been replaced with Rie Takahashi as Risa Taneda remains on hiatus to recover from illness. Taneda's other roles remain unchanged
-Class dailies have been updated to include new material drops
>http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/guxhvh/
Caster Gilles, Ryougi, Euryale, Proto Dog, Hector, Astolfo, Void, Dantes, Amakusa and Medea Lily to bond 10

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html

>CMs
http://www.mediafire.com/download/960gn6g6w2p0l8q/FGO+Material+I.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj405jjjc9ly94e/FGO+Material+II.zip
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>FP gacha
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Best Archer
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Gawain is fine but Gawainfags a big smelly shit.
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alright finish your rounds despairbro
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So are the drops the same as the previous quests?
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GANBARE ANON
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I love my emperor!
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>>156310795
Pretty much.
Except all the quests drop less than the previous ones did in my experience.
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Who /hoardingquartz/ here
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My second last roll
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Best daughteru or best daughteru?
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Nito-chan!
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>>156310891
Oh shit
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>>156310891
R O M A
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>>156310891
ALL OR NOTHING
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>>156310891
Go finish it with a bang!
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Xth for best archer
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>>156310459
I find it adorable that Gawain is a shit talking manlet
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Please god let that anon roll Bride. He's suffered enough.
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>>156310891
Last quartz.What should i do?
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>>156310929
What is she trying to convey here.
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>>156310795
Basically
Just that they drop lower medals
This is a full Caligula CE team
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>>156311032
>1,80
>manlet
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>>156310891
HEAVEN OR HELL
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UMU!
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>>156311061
ROLL
O
L
L
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How can I improve this team? Help me spam NP all day with Shiki and Bride.
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>>156311061
Don't
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>>156311061
Roll the Story Gacha.
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>>156311032
>180
>manlet
yeah nah fuck you that's as average as it gets
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>>156311061
You've already lost everything. Burn our pain as fuel and roll again.
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>>156311061
You've got nothing to lose now. You've already lost everything else. Roll
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>>156311061
nice staged faggot
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>>156311061
NOW OR NEVER
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>>156311061
Do it faggot
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>>156311094
If you want to spam all day then you need 2 or 3 Twice CE for crit Arts.
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>>156311061
it's too late to stop anon.

reach out and touch the untouchable.
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Gib Nobu account please.
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>>156311061
roll with your dick
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>>156311061
SHE'S WAITING FOR YOU
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>>156311070
The moment before she takes dicks in both holes.
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>>156311270
Gil and Ozzy?
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>>156311094
Replace Shiki with Waver.
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>>156311061
>retards will fall for this
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>>156311032
Gawain's not a manlet.
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>>156311078
>>156310837
They drop less? The unlocked missions are worse to farm?

What the fuck
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>>156311314
post your email with it anon
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>>156311314
GANBATE
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>>156311314
You can do it.
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>when you stop giving a shit about saving your Command Seals and just use all 3 for the Sumanai fight

I kind of don't understand though why Kintoki did so little damage against Sumanai when half of his thing is to ignore defense.
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>IbarakiShit OP
Shit taste as always
>Bulldog-like snaggletooth
>Awful tattoos that make her look old/with insomnia
>Shit figure, not curvy but also not full loli, some aberration that's in between
Is there a fucking uglier FGO girl? If we can even call that piece of shit a girl.
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>people fall for this stupid staged shit

Wew
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>>156311314
gunbutter
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>>156311387
because ignore defense is only -100% defense

sumanai had 200%.
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>>156311032
But that's average, the other kngihts are just a good bit taller.
Arturia heightor below would be manlet level.
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>>156311313
Actually, I had (You) and FutaTamamo in mind
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>>156311392
You forgot her hands and feet.
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>inb4 SINGLES save the day
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i'm gonna waste one ticket for that Anon
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>>156311387
Only his NP ignores defense but Siegfried also has a -90% damage reduction buff. If Kintoki did like 20-25k then that's normal, my Jack and Okita are around 15-20k damage. Every other NP that doesn't ignore defense does literally 0 damage.
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>>156311578
Same.
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please don't bully my dog
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>>156311314
Does god exists?
[email protected]>>156311359
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>>156311514
>Futa Tamamo
Don't give people ideas fool.
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>>156311379
No
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>>156311620
If nothing else, it's appropriate.
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>>156311620
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>>156311620
that's a impressive result
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>>156311620
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>>156311620

>nerocucks
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>>156311528
For a good reason I did.
What a fucking ugly-shit-ass character, Jesus Christ, I can't believe some faggot anon likes it so much, I guess it shows that there's people out there with the absolute lowest common denominator when it comes to taste.
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>>156311620
I'm so sorry
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>>156311620

I got Fatso in your honor man
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>>156311620
A fitting CE art for such an end.
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>>156311620
Well shit that's all my free quartz on this game.So should i whale?
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>>156311620
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.
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>>156311620
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>>156311620
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>>156311620
Time to listen to linkin park anon-kun. a fitting end for this tragic tale.

>>156311705
Gawain would disapprove of this behavior.
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>>156311620
It's finally over you madman
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>>156311740
No.
Absolutely not.
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>>156311620
A fitting end to this Gacha rolls nightmare.
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>>156311620
hope is the very worst poison anon
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>>156311740
>all those trash rolls
>wants to buy more
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>>156311620
RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2CXmBmN4M&
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>>156311387
Reposting
The best strategy for Sumanai is either

>bring servant with Divinity equipped with Cover Fire/Land of Shadow CE/Brilliant War Dancer
>Manjew with Guts to chipped off free 20k damage
>Emiya with Waver/Helena and spam UBW

Herc is probably the best here since he have Divinity A,a Sky servant(that counter Earth servant like Sumanai),have BBBAQ deck and have survivability enough to do shit before dying.
Basically Bride CE doesn't really work well here since flat damage is more important.

As for Kintoki,he is a Man attribute Servant,so he is fucked up against Earth one.
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>>156311740
Do you still believe even after all those rolls?

I wasn't even the one rolling and it crushed any hope I'll obtain anything with my measly 67.
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>>156311740

Of course anon, after so many rolls it's obvious you're gonna get a gold servant soon.
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>>156311642
Give me your FC already bully-kun.
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>>156311740
>Should I spend actual shekels on more disappointment?
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>>156311740

Fucking relax Gudako before you start having to star in Javs again
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>>156311620
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>>156311620
Never mind Nero, did he even get a single 4 star character at all?
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>>156311620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDahxIwGMg8
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>>156311740
Yes.
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>>156311740
Yes do it goyim
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>>156311957
Oh hey I got a (You) from that
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>>156311912
Bride CE stills helps a lot against pesky dragons and a free guts
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>>156311976
No
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>>156311578
>>156311592
UH
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>>156311976
He got a lot of 5* CEs
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>>156311948
Here you go
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This is probably going to haunt me for awhile now.
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>>156312110
Why are you doing this to him.
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>>156311620
Friendly reminder that the fuckers that get 5* in a few singles are incredibly lucky and fortunate.
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>>156312110
SUMANAI
It be too cruel if it was Bride
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>>156312110
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>>156312110
Sumanai
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>>156312110
Brutal
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Obligatory "Alter Egos in FGO and Extella when?" post.
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>>156311740
Do you actually like bride? I threw money for my waifu and had to throw 300 quartz down for 1 copy, I also wasted 500 quartz on raikou and didn't get her. Do you still want her?
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>>156312110
Is this NTR?
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>>156312110
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>>156311912
So what we can learn from this Sumanai adventure is that you're a shit Berserker unless you have Divinity

Star Attribute and Divine Berserker when
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>>156311326
>using male servants

This is a meme right? No one actually does this right?
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>>156312187

Congratulations, you got the cutest Saberface.
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>>156312110
Don't hurt him more anon.
Let it be a cold lonely Siegfried longing for a friend who won't burn him.
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>>156312187
Top kek.
This happen like 70% of the time.
But at least its a 5*.
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>>156312110
>>156312187
I never thought I could be this salty on somebody else's behalf.
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>>156312110
>>156311592 here.

You too, huh?
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>>156312145
Thanks
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>>156312187
Noice
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>>156311620
"I stand alone, forging salts atop the hill of Gacha rolls"
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>>156312110
This is my second D'eon
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>>156312187
>>156312295
>>156312334
Maybe there is luck in singles after all.I'll be right back later to roll again.
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>>156312110
>>156312187
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/image/IHy26NVhf3W7HFw749-5JQ/

Fuck off liar.
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>>156312110
>>156312334

Guess it's free gold saber roll time.
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>>156312395
see>>156312353
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Burn a few singles for (Him) /fgog/
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>>156312395
It was just a prank bro
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>>156311620
post your account
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>>156312494
>>156312145
It's here already isn't it?
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>>156312380
>they convinced him to give dw shekels
>he's falling for the singles meme
>after all that
>those fags weren't even real rolls
No anon, pls
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>>156312457
No, you see:

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/image/VGEIXkOO3smNUy9bUyD89A/

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/image/y7mYdcicPlVqI6nax6o1lw/

They are images from April. Why would someone do this, go to the internet and tell lies?
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>>156312343
>>156312145
What the fuck are you >>156311620
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>>156312334
It's just normal Nero, though. Though it's my first gold Saber, so that's something.
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>>156312559
no I mean show me what you have on your account anon
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>>156312625
post servants by cost
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>>156312472
Well then, sorry anon
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>>156311620
Hey on the bright side,look at how many ce i have!
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>see past thread
>see this thread
Meanwhile I got two Neros and one Nero bride from 5 tickets and one 10-roll. All I wanted was the Caligula CE though, those Neros won't even be leveled once for months.
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>>156312764
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Sumanai, anon. Please don't kill yourself. There's always next year.
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>>156312808
desire sensor is the realest shit, some anon last night got Bride from 1 10 roll trying to get the roma CE
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>>156312764
Well at least someone got nero.This gives me hope.As i said i'll be back later to roll.
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>>156312907
No please stop losing all that free quartz was one thing but don't throw away your money too.
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>>156312907
Don't give up anon, there still free tickets from the exhibition quests
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>>156312907
YAMETE, YOU MAD MAN

YAMETE KURE
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>>156312891
Not him, but I honestly feel like if I don't roll Bride I'll have very few reasons not to anymore.
Fuck it. I suck at living. I don't even want to exist anymore.
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>>156312690
There's nothing of note on top other than unleveled Lancer Artoria and Nightingale, really.
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Someone post the picture of Gudao disappearing with zero quatz and Bride crying
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>>156313036
????
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Why are we making a big deal about someone's failures?
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>>156312981
Not him, but those are too hard for me.
Fucking bullshit.

>>156313092
This one?
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>>156313124
>a Nerofag has no heart
Not surprised
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>>156313124
Reddit thinks it's funny and that it makes them feel like they're part of the cool guys club.
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>>156313036
>>156313109
sry bout the mess
cuz it won't upload due to excessing limit

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>>156313124
If you don't roll your waifu in this and spend a bunch of money it's a really big deal.
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>>156313147
Yeah that one.
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>>156313179
I don't have any waifu or husbando or anything like that. I just don't get the appeal of everyone freaking out.
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>>156313124
Because we feel sorrow for a fellow fate/faggot who wants to roll his waifu.
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>>156313224
this
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>barely beat Sumanai after using up 3 Command Seals on support Okita
>see tweet of Japanese Kojirofag wrecking him with REGEND
https://twitter.com/alucardbbRachel/status/782295356071563264
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>>156313469
>35 turns
Who the fuck cares.
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>>156313124
because it reminds me of my rolls and makes me depressed for any future rolls

he didn't even get a 4* servant from all of that
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>>156313124
Because it's one of the few times this thread actually shows a shred of concern for someone else?
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Shit happens. Not everyone gets their rolls the way they want them. This is just a reminder of when Jeanne Alter was released and people were paying hundreds to roll her. Some people get lucky, some people don't.
Must be all the Americans up since everyone seems to be in a whiny mood. There's no reason to be upset over someone else's failures.
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>>156313796
>stop having fun I don't like it
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>>156310651
Who /jeanne/ here!
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>>156313796
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>>156313796
>tfw you rolled her with 4 tickets
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>>156313861
You've summed up basically all of 4chan
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What are the waves like in the new petal 40AP? I don't know if my bond team can do it or even has advantage against the right mobs or not.
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>>156313796
>it must be Americans!
What is it with the rest of the world and thinking of America as some boogeyman?
Texas here and it's almost 1 am. Most burgers are asleep. Or about to go to sleep.
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>>156314062
wave one is three saber robots, wave 2 is one saber robot and a spriggan, wave 3 is karna and arjuna.
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>>156314106
What?
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>>156314062
it's piss easy compared to the avenger/ruler combo the old had
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>>156314106
>>156314161
dangeki festival
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>>156314146
Guess I'll bring an archer support and have Altera deal with Karna, sounds easy.
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>>156314135
It's Sunday morning, they have no high school today and are welcome to shitpost as much as they like here.
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Cute hassan
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>>156314106
>Hataraku Maou-sama
Thanks for the reminder that translations are taking their sweet time ;_;
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>>156314270
it is.
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>>156314135
4chan's largest traffic comes from America.
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>>156313923
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Post moms.
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>>156314236
but what does that have to do with the hit japanese mobile game Fate Grand Order?
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>>156314373
Largest from a single country but there are more non-americans then americans.
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>>156314228
Those weren't even that hard to begin with. The only annoyance was the manticores getting early crits. Also Dantes' death scream was hilarious every time I heard it. I miss it already.
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>>156314106
These fuckers better announce a Index S3
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>>156314378
>>156313923
Jannu time?
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>>156314512
Never ever
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>>156314475
fate related?
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>>156314512
Never happening.
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>>156314516
Why does such an uncaring person have to have such a supple body.
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>>156314512
>caring about Index
I know TM generals have the absolute worst taste but come on.
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>>156311578
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>156314516
Is that a fucking nipaaa?
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>>156314626
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>>156314626
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>>156314626
Because she is copy of another actually caring person?
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Now I truly understand how valuable Cu Lancer is.
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>>156314626
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>>156314626
>hurr durr all I care about is fucking her
I wish people in these threads would care enough to actually discuss the characters and not just about how much they want to fuck them.
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>>156314773
>Grand Order
>characters beyond sex appeal
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>>156314773
Fuck off powerlevel cuck
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>>156314676
We already did this joke
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>>156314106
>>156314512
Index III is never happening, anon. Enjoy your Blood Sign anime.

Horizon S3 is never happening either.
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>>156314773
lmao this cuck
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>>156314626
Well, Jeanne Alter exists using Jeanne as a base. She's a kind and caring person who has been twisted into a callous and angry person.

Now, since she could be twisted in the first place, she's clearly malleable enough to be twisted again. So we can conclude that to make her at least caring towards (You) and less angry, you just have to twist her again. With your penis.
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>>156314773
Hey i like her alot, i like bitchy bratty characters
I just also find her very attractive and expressing that fact.
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>>156314773
But they do. All the damn time. There are even long winded rants about lore. Last thread we briefly talked about billy the kid and before that some autists droned on about karna and curry, and Shirou in comparison to sumanai. Dick posts just come with the territory. Stop being such a killjoy. No one but Melvin wants to drone on about power levels nonstop.
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>>156314773
What else do the Jannus have except for their body?
She is shit without it.
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>>156311620
>Camlann
Pottery.
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>>156314773
>how much they want to fuck them.
nobody cares about anything else though, everyone is here for the waifu

4chan Pass user since July 2016.
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>>156315064
I never said anything about powerlevels.
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>>156314685
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>>156314964
So what you're telling me, we mind break her to be nice, using our penises?
sounds like an experiment worth trying out.

Hope she keeps those wonderfully hateful expressions.
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>>156314773
>Jannu
>character
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>>156311740
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>>156314690
what did she mean by this.
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>>156315090
>>156315225
>Implying Jannu isn't full of character.
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>>156315215
If my chinese smut scrolls have taught me anything, it's that the fastest way to change a woman's personality to suit your preferences and make her happier is violent non-consensual sex is a wide variety of uncomfortable positions.
If I can't trust those, what can I trust in this world?
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>>156315156
>4chan Pass user since July 2016.

Nani?
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>>156315156
What's up with all these stars? Is this what chinese moot has done?
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>>156315314
Silence, foul temptress!
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>>156315443
yes, we reddit now.

4chan Pass user since July 2016.
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right. I'm tapping out, really hoping o don't have bad roll dreams because of that anon. Or worse, good roll dreams that I wake up from.
>>156315396
Hiroshimoot thought this would be hilarious. Pass users also get their post cool down time reduced so they can shit post all the more.
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>>156315225
Jannu does have a character, first few chapters of Apoc and her interactions with Vlad show her having a very solid character at first.

Then Seig happens, and he's basically a black hole for the story and everyone involved
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>>156315363
And here i thought thinking Bribes and affection would get her to start caring about things a little more.
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>>156315396
>he doesn't know
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>>156315443
Emoji trick, I think.
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since when was Kiyohime literally a snek
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>>156315536
>>156315583
I know that pass users don't have captcha and lower post cooldowns but whats up with the fucking stars and footnote.
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>>156315547
Sieg isn't in Orleans, where Jannu also has no character and is a boring void that makes all other characters worse by association.

I'm not defending Sieg but if you don't think Jannu is ass as well then you are totally delusional.
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>>156315637
She turned into a literal dragon to burn the guy to death and some dragons are very snek-like.
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>>156315637
Sincebeginning.
She can turn full/half-snake using Transformation.
She even do that in Summer event.
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Is there any list of writing credits to see who wrote which event somewhere?
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>>156315637
awhile actually.
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>>156315637
>ryuugawagatekiwokurau

lol it's like that overwatch ability that's pretty cool
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>>156315702
Dragons were in all ancient cultures originally oversized snakes and serpents. Greeks, Persians, Chinese, Japanese, Romans, Indians, its not until the late medieval period in Western Europe that Christian iconography turns them into reptiles.
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>>156315769
Anon...
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>>156315637
Her legend has her turning into a dragon serpent thing to chase some monk that refused to marry her. She then spat fire out at him when he was hiding in a temple's bell which roasted him alive.
Short answer: always
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>>156315790
Sneks aren't reptiles?
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>>156315790
>Dragons were in all ancient cultures originally oversized snakes and serpents.
>its not until the late medieval period in Western Europe that Christian iconography turns them into reptiles.

you know snakes are reptiles, right.
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I want to shoot my goo inside this Jannu.
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>>156315790
Snakes are reptiles.
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>>156315858
>implying snakes are reptiles
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>>156315860
I meant serpentine.
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>>156315790
>snakes and serpents
>not reptiles
n-nani?
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>>156315869
I want to shoot my goo inside of (You)
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Which place is best for bronze medals?
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>>156315343
Would you read the Holy Jannubible?
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>>156315897
>snakes and serpents are not serpentine
????????
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>>156315956
There are like three different (You)'s.
which one are you talking about?
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>>156315637
How hard is it to read her complete materials bio? She's got transformation listed, and her only transformation involves her becoming something that slither around.
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>>156315897
The Tarrasque is 2000 years old and isn't serpentine, Beowulfs dragon isn't serpentine, the leviathan wasn't serpentine.

Dragons were never universally, all over the world, just big snakes.
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>>156315790
>Dragons were in all ancient cultures originally oversized snakes and serpents

>its not until the late medieval period in Western Europe that Christian iconography turns them into reptiles.
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>>156316020
Most of the dragons back then were just oversized snakes most of the time. I read it in a book before and it has to be true.
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>>156315637
Getting carefully coiled by Kiyo must feel amazing.
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>>156316070
the leviathan was most definitely serpentine.
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>>156316070
Leviathan is neither a serpent or dragon, it's a complicated lord of the seas monster.
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>>156316070
Are Grendel and his mother even dragons?
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>>156316070
Leviathan was more like a fish mate.
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>>156316141
>whale
>serpentine
>>156316167
No? I said Beowulfs dragon.
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>>156316159
Here's all we know about levi-Chan

15 His back has rows of shields tightly sealed together;
16 Each is so close to the next that no air can pass between.
17 They are joined fast to one another; they cling together and cannot be parted.
18 His snorting throws out flashes of light; his eyes are like the rays of dawn.
19 Firebrands stream from his mouth; sparks of fire shoot out.
20 Smoke pours from his nostrils as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds.
21 His breath sets coals ablaze, and flames dart from his mouth.
22 Strength resides in his neck; dismay goes before him.
23 The folds of his flesh are tightly joined; they are firm and immovable.
24 His chest is hard as rock, hard as a lower millstone.
25 When he rises up, the mighty are terrified; they retreat before his thrashing.
26 The sword that reaches him has no effect, nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin.
27 Iron he treats like straw and bronze like rotten wood.
28 Arrows do not make him flee, sling stones are like chaff to him.
29 A club seems to him but a piece of straw, he laughs at the rattling of the lance.
30 His undersides are jagged potsherds, leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing-sledge.
31 He makes the depths churn like a boiling cauldron and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment.
32 Behind him he leaves a glistening wake; one would think the deep had white hair.
33 Nothing on earth is his equal—a creature without fear.
34 He looks down on all that are haughty; he is king over all that are proud.
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>>156316224
>>156316228
Leviathan became synonymous with whale, but within the bible it is definetely not a whale.
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>>156316287
>levi-chan

>15

>His
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http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/yjsz/

Halloween event teaser
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>>156316401
epik
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>>156316287
>>156316367
Sounds like a giant fish.

>15. His back has rows of shields tightly sealed together.
>16. Each is so close to the next that no air can pass between.
>17. They are joined fast to one another, they cling together and cannot be parted.
>23. The folds of his flesh are tightly joined, they are firm and immovable.
>24. His chest is hard as rock, hard as a lower millstone.
>30. His undersides are jagged potsherds, leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing-sledge.
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>>156316401
Nice
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>>156316287
the way they describe it's back and chest make it sound bipedal.
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>>156316367
He's described as being a deep ocean creature and was always illustrated as a whale, to the point where the word means whale nowadays.
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>>156316392
Term of endearment, honest way or sarcastic way. Goes both genders. I called my homeroom teacher with -chan sufix. Sounds rude be he didn't mind.
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>>156316185
suki?
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Now I want to see Quet and Tiamat and make a Dragon team
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>>156316392
>don't know how honorifics works
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>>156316401
This poster is a liar, don't ever trust him

>>156316438
It's somewhat a fish, but not a ehale. It's designed to be the strongest thing in the seas, the king of all fish and beasts of the sea probably. Nothing in the ocean can match it, it's like the embodiment of the seas themselves

Behemoth is its land counterpart

And finally Ziz
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When will they get bond CEs? I want to use them more, but efficiency autism holds me back.

Level 10 bond was a mistake.
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>>156316573
>conquistador
>dragon
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>>156316537
>I called my homeroom teacher with -chan sufix.
jesus fuck I bet you were THAT kid
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>>156316185
>>156316557
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>>156316486
That's because leviathan was described as the strongest thing in the oceans

People then saw a whale, they thought "that's the strongest thing we can imagine in the ocean, ita basically a leviathan so let's draw it like that" even though it's clearly not described like that in story. Also it gained more association due to Moby dick.
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>>156316669
>tfw got neither of them
If that one faggot could get his waifu then surely I'll be able to roll at least one of them, right? Just gotta start saving up again, I'm back down to 3 quartz.
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>>156316776
>>156316669
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>>156316823
S--suki.
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>>156316762
The leviathan is based on tales of sea monsters themselves based on whales, not the other way around, you idiot. They didn't think of the leviathan on the spot and then see a whale while they were wondering what it was like.

>Also it gained more association due to Moby dick.
The leviathan was drawn whale like for hundreds and hunrdreds of years before Moby Dick.
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>>156316823
I just realized they both wear heels. Do the stat sheets take those into account?
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What would be stronger in Nasuverse?

Behemoth, Ziz and Leviathan or the Beast of Revelation?
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>>156316882
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>>156316986
My dick.
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>>156316986
>implying any random monsters can beat cock mad Nero
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>>156316986
ORT
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>>156316986
Beast of Revelation, umu.
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>>156316882
What the fuck are those things on bryn's thighs
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>>156317009
I wish i was Bryn__ here
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>>156316945
Pretty sure they do but who knows for certain.
>>156316986
Esfandiyar.

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/esfandiar-1-son-gostasp
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>>156316986
EMIYA can solo all of them.
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>>156316762
To further go into this point. Angels weren't winged men, jesus wasn't described the way he was drawn in most portraits, and the devil wasn't a goat legged man with horns. Yet historically they were all drawn like this, even though it's not accurate to the bible.

The way things end up being drawn is a story in itself for each of them. How that shit catches on, and basically becomes a meme of its time, for art. Satan's image in painings is due to taking a shot at foreign Greek images like saytrs, jesus went through a lot of historical shaping in portraits before they settled on this one because it was sage like.

After taking a lot of art history class, you could basically take a few hours for each theme and see how these themes caught on over the ages. Until we reach today where we just associate it.
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>>156316986
A bullied teenage girl with bug powers.
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>>156317035
>yfw Mother Harlot isn't the real beast of revelation it's Master Therion
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>>156316986
Probably the Behemoth
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>>156317178
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>>156317205
I feel like I'm missing a reference here. You mean wormslut, right?
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>>156317209
>gets BTFO by Demonbane
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>>156317273
Who doesn't get btfo by demonbane?

protip: nobody
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>>156317264
Well she's certainly a Worm.
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>>156317261
What the fuck is this? Jesus was black you idiot
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Press F to pay respects to clownfag, he truly sleeps in emptiness now.
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>>156316910
It is the other way around; leviathan is not described as a whale at all, but people created an association after seeing whales. There is no actual association within the text, in the bible it is not a whale. Jonah gets swallowed by a whale and it's not the leviathan. People create those associations later on that are not actually part of it, but they think it's just part of it.
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>>156317261
Looks like my dad.
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>>156317346
No Jesus was a woman.
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>>156317346
Sure he was. You niggers really want to make everything about yourselves.
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>>156317374
Jesus was non-binary you shitlord
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>>156317346
Jesus was Jewish
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>>156317367
>deep sea creature
>king of sea animals
It's clearly based on a whale. The idea of the leviathan, king of the ocean, did not come out of a void, it's based on preceding legends.

They do not, in the bible, literally say "It is a whale" but it is quite obvious what the inspiration is. And Jonah was swallowed by a normal whale, not a sea monster based on legends of whales.
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>>156317451
Jesus was a Protestant you fucking heathen.
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>>156317153
>Esfandiar's seven exploits consist of:
>slaying two ferocious wolves, two redoutable lions, a dragon, a sorceress disguised as an enchantress, the fearsome bird Sīmorḡ and its two offspring, as well as weathering a terrible three-day blizzard and crossing a wide expanse of water.
Neat.
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>>156317451
Black people can be Jews too, you racist motherfucker.
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Why is King Arthur a lolicon?
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>>156317512
>>156317451
>Jews
>people
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>>156315678
>>156315547
Alter is weird. The playable one I mean. She isn't all that bad a girl but seems to act like she is b/c she thinks she should and deserves it
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>>156317530
Look man things were different in his time, okay?
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>>156317536
OY VEY
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>>156317346
>>156317374
>>156317441
>>156317451
>>156317498
Jesus was a Jewish protestant black woman non-binary male Nazi.
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>>156317530
Name one character in the Nasuverse who isn't into lolis, and them not showing interest explicitly doesn't exclude them. They have to outright say they don't like lolis.
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>>156317512
>>156317536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ahtwp5Bupg
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>>156317615
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>>156317606
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>>156317672
Doesn't he just get mad at older women, since he never meets a loli
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>>156316986
My Queen
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>>156317672
That other anon never told me why he has dildos in this picture
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>>156317481
No it isnt, that's just an association you are staunch on but don't want to let go of, even when it doesn't hold any real root.

You say that both a normal whale and a crazy mythical depiction of a ehale exists within the same story, and somehow this floats for you?

Leviathan is described as fire breathing serpent type thing with scales that are like armor who's body makes it look like the entire ocean has white hair as it swims past. This isn't at all a whale, but you're stuck in the association so you say it's just a crazy depiction of a whale, when normal whales also are in this story?

Dragons exist throughout all of mythology, but dragons aren't real, nothing even close exists. Some things do come out of the ether basically
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>>156317530
Cause he has good taste in best girls.
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>>156317760
>it's real
Cirno you fucking memer
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Behemoth-Chan

15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
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>>156317783
The Leviathan is a giant undersea living pyramid with millions of tentacles which enrobe the earth that are so large and powerful as to shift continents.
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>>156317880
Speaking of Cirno, how can he muster the will to update his site if he can't play the game?
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>>156317536
Don't talk shit about my boy David.
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>>156317783
It holds very obvious and widely accepted root, you are just pretending it doesn't for some reason. Yes, it's totally normal that a whale, a real creature that people experience, and a sea monster, which are culturally derived from whales, can appear in the same text. A text which, incidentally, wasn't written by one person in the first place.

The leviathan is described as a sea monster. It's not described as serpentine, it's quite bulky from its description in fact. The fire breath is a classic trait of both land and sea monsters and the rest is exaggeration. Dragons are found in cultures worldwide because A, reptiles are universally feared and a good monster is something that's already scary, but bigger, and B, dinosaur bones.

Examples of tales that come out of nothing are, say, dual encircling burning wheels covered in eyes angels, while giant fish like sea monsters is obviously and accepted everywhere except by you, the anon on 4chan, based on large sea animals.
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Meanwhile Ziz

>I know all the birds of the mountains and Zīz śāday is mine" and Psalms 80:13-14 "The boar from the forest ravages it, and Zīz śāday feeds on it."

There's a reason that Ziz was depicted as the forgotten lost one in pokemon gen 3. Everyone knows Groupon and kyogre, no one knows Raymond.
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>>156318041
I dunno, bless his soul.
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>>156317794
Ayaka a cute.
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>>156318216
If he only appears in that one line then I can see why no one knows him. He's been eclipsed by Zyzz.
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>>156317336
powerman
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>>156315637
Since when was King Arthur a female teenager?

Caring about historical accuracies when it comes to Fate is just futile.
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I see the annoying autists are up and shitting up the thread as usual.
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>>156318354
But Kiyohime in myth is a snake,well a giant one
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>>156318354
Since a while. You didn't know?
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>>156318394
>I don't like it so it's annoying autism
I'm not even one of the fags sperging out about mythical monsters but fuck off
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I still don't know why Rin's clocks were messed up the day she sis her summoning.
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>>156318590
Her dad fucked the clock up as a prank and she apparently didn't notice for a decade.
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This is wrong.
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>>156318620
That doesn't make sense.
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>>156318664
Well that's the answer so blame Nasu. Tokiomi changed the clocks because he thought it would be ebin as a test for her.
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>>156318590
Tokiomi set the clocks to go wack (can't remember if it was forward or back) when she decided to go through the attic and her inheritance. He was just being a dad, really.
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Nobu!
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>>156318708
What was the test?
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>>156318590
>>156318664
The spell only activated when she opened that box in the basement to get a catalyst, since he knew that wad the sign of her being about to summon. Her opening the seal caused a long cast spell to activate

He did it as a test for her, if she didn't notice then she was still half baked and not ready.
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>>156318770
Whether she can notice before summoning.
>hey, I should sabotage my daughter before a brutal fight to the death
Best dad
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>>156318770
>In the Prologue, the clocks were set one hour fast by Tokiomi when Rin woke up, but she only remembered them being 30 minutes fast. Rin suspected it to be some trick of her late father’s, a bit of playfulness on his part, seeming to say “if she can’t even notice a slip-up as trivial and close to home as this, it’s too soon for her to fight in the Holy Grail War.”

He was playing a prank on her, basically.
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>>156318787
But Rin didn't even use a real catalyst.
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>>156318787
>do something that potentially reduces her chances of winning and increases her chances of dying
"It was just a prank, daugh" -Tokiomi
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>>156318846
>>156318787
The box had summoning circle stuff, not a catalyst. Rin didn't use one at all, she tried her luck for random saber.
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>>156318725
huh

that actually makes Tokiomi seem more like an actual human.
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I WILL roll Nero with tomorrow's ticket.
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>>156318895
Or, it would have if the prank hadn't been while Rin was in serious danger of dying because of it with Tokiomi knowing that full well.
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>>156318891
Why would Tokimoi ever think that Rin would take part in a grail war when, as far as he knows, Rin would be 70+ by the next one?
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>>156318891
I thought it had gil's broken catalyst
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>>156317178
On that note, I've been wondering how the pop image of Merlin came about, i.e. the pointy hat and robes with moon-and-stars pattern. There was a description like that in The Once and Future King (1958), but I don't know if the origins go back even further.
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>>156318895
I get the feeling that Tokiomi was supposed to be some sort of wacky magus before Zero happened.
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>>156318987
What the fuck are you talking about.
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>>156318895
>a prank that put 1 life in danger

But of course
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>>156319001
>Typemoon
>Internal consistency
Pick one, that's the official explanation
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>>156319076
So this is Butcher's fault?
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>>156318987
>>156319072
I don't see how fucking with the clocks for a war that wasn't even supposed to happen in Rin's time means he put her at risk willingly.
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>>156319050
Tokiomi playing pranks and joking with his daughter would make him seem more human, if said prank didn't seriously endanger her life in the battle royale to the death she had spent a decade preparing for. Instead it just makes him seem like a dick, which he is so I guess it worked.
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>>156319001
He thought she'd find a way to stop aging or suck Zouken's dick for the secret of longevity.
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>>156319127
I still don't see how fucking with the clocks put her at risk period.
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>>156319114
Butcher didn't have anything to do with FSN. The clock stuff was resolved before Zero.
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>>156319153
No, explain to me what danger he put her in. How the fuck does setting the clocks forward or back equate to endangering her life.
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>>156318590
>set in winter
DST went into effect. Rin's gimmick is do things perfectly, only to make big mistakes when it actually counts.
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>>156319229
Zero making Tokiomi such a hard ass that makes the prank seem so weird.
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>>156319181
>>156319127
>>156319246
Fucking with the clock meant Rin summoned when she wasn't at her peak like she planned, meaning Tokiomi interfered with and nerfed the summoning ritual, meaning he could have interfered with which Servant was summoned, which is directly related to Rins chances of living.

She had it all planned out to summon in the best possible conditions, but Tokiomis decade old interference screwed it up.
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>She had it all planned out to summon in the best possible conditions
Except for the part where she couldn't even tell her own house clocks were screwed. I don't even like Tokiomi and I agree with his sentiment there.
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>>156318041
>>156318245
Several threads back, he described some failed attempts to get it running on his computer, and said he might move on to a game that didn't actively work against him.
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>>156319330
Yeah but the thing is, Tokiomi didn't know the grail war he was participating in would end inconclusively and fuck up the timing for the next one.

By the time the next war came around Rin would've been a mom at the very least. He very likely intended for it to just be a funny thing for a random day.
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>>156319412
Rin not noticing is her own fault but seeing as the HGW has some pretty high stakes it seems odd for him to play a prank with that specifically.
>>156319435
>He very likely intended for it to just be a funny thing for a random day.
If he really planned it for 6 decades in the future, he would be dead and would have died without telling anyone, and it would have gone exactly the same for Rin or her descendant. The war being 50 years earlier then he thought doesn't change anything since the summoning shit wouldn't have been touched since the next war regardless.
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>>156319330
You're basically saying he definitely planned for her to fail the test or something.

It was a stupidly small test just to see if she had grown at all, and she still failed.
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>>156319426
I hope he at least leaves his account somewhere safe. It'd be a shame to see it go after he managed to roll his swimsuit waifu.
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>>156319551
Odd like how he gave up his other daughter to be raped and violated by worms so long as she would be able to learn magecraft?
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>>156319560
I'm saying that if he was going to play a time based test on her, he shouldn't have done it with something that would end up killing Rin if she fucked it up. It's described as a light hearted test or prank when it's functionally anything but.
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>>156319551
So basically Rin only tried to decipher her father's will because the HGW was going to start and she wouldn't have touched it otherwise?
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>>156319653
Now you're going into hyperbole. It wasn't going to kill her either way it turned out. She failed and it still didn't kill her or really change much of anything.
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>>156319426
Or you know, he could shell out money for a phone that normal, well adjusted people use everyday in their lives.
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>>156319426
Found the post: >>155879539

>I don't have a partition available to install Remix OS so I installed it on a USB stick. Unfortunately, I don't have a USB 3.0 port or device, so it's not really working well for me since I don't meet the minimum system requirement.
>VM option looks too much of a hassle just to play a single mobage. I think I'll just wait until someone makes a bypass APK or just move on to a different game that doesn't want to block me out.
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>>156319706
Why would she, the dedicated daddys girl, go into his HGW stuff unless she was preparing for a HGW? I mean that's why she didn't touch it for a decade after he died.
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I can't decide wich quest is the best for silver medal. 30 ap or the second 40 ap ?
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>>156319757
> buying an expensive phone just to play a shit mobage
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>>156319754
I don't mean it would have killed her outright, I mean in that if you summon a shitty Servant you are fucked.

And the only reason Rin survives the HGW is because of some gigantic coincidences and Shirou.
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>>156319773
And her inheritance. Could have sworn it also talked about her inheritance being up there and her going through all the papers Tokiomi left behind for her to become an official adult magus.
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>>156319757
>being normal
>using a phone for anything else
This kind of people disgusts me.
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>>156319836
>is because of some gigantic coincidences
technically she was destined to survive from the moment she summoned EMIYA.
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>>156319805
>expensive phone

I don't quite think 200 dollars or less is expensive.
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>>156319836
Also if she has the catalyst he left behind, why are you assuming that she'd summon a shitty servant just cause she's not at her peak?
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>>156319907
>go to summon a Servant
>get the future version of your crush who happens to have the perfect countermeasure to big dick boss Servant because you save his life at some point in the future
>this is somehow not a gigantic coincidence
And she still dies in some bad ends.
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>>156319895
>>156319805
I use it to bludge in class by abusing wi-fi as well as playing shitty mobages, it's worth it just to be able to do something while I poop.
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>>156319915
You should understand that 200 dollars is a lot of money and many people can't afford it.
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>>156319907
the fact that she somehow survived the fate route was pretty bullshit if you ask me
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>>156319949
The catalyst that doesn't work? Rin didn't even attempt to use it.
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>>156319972
Can Rin even summon a different servant?

I mean, without a catalyst, which she doesn't use, shouldn't EMIYA who has the highest affinity with Rin be summoned every time? Similar to Shirou with Arturia.
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>>156319994
Not that guy but, i bought a $100 phone and it works perfectly
$100 should be quite affordable even for a poor guy
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>>156320068
She would summon Emiya every time but Tokiomi wouldn't know that. Rin didn't even know it.

The point being made is Tokiomis intention.
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>>156319994
He's paying money for hosting the website, he can afford a phone.
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>>156320043
Okay but that has nothing to do with her peak, that's just Rin at fault. Not Tokiomi.
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>>156319990
I have dry eyes so while I poop I take the chance to have them shut and rest for a while.
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>>156320147
Tokiomi couldn't guarantee that it would work either. The thing is like 6000 years old and he would have had it in some old mansion for another 60 years after that. Rin has an obsession with summoning a Saber because of the notes her dad left her too, despite her dad summoning Archer.

The first catalyst not working is something Tokiomi should have been aware of and Rin having a second one is something he can't have been aware of.

Tokiomis prank didn't change anything in the end because of Emiya but Rin went into that without a catalyst at all. If she hadn't had Emiyas catalyst, which no one including herself knew she had, Tokiomis prank would have affected her work.
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Okay, so I just checked over the Prologue in the VN, and the only Tokiomi left Rin was the pendant and his will. But in the UBW anime, they had him leave her Gil's catalyst from Zero. Which is weird, but okay I guess.

>"…Really, I wish Father could have left me something with a connection to Saber."
>I don't have anything with any "connection".
>I can summon a Servant.
>If I wanted to, I could summon one right now and form a contract with it.
>The town's sacred ground is under our jurisdiction.
>As the daughter of the Tohsaka family which has protected this town through the generations, I will not lose to magi from elsewhere.
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>>156320184
Tristan-anon?
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>>156320362
So if he wasn't even leaving her the catalyst then there's really no excuse at all.
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>>156319762
>>155879539
What. He has a lot of space available. He can just reduce the space of one of his disks to make a new partition for RemixOS. I have a shitty 500gb hard drive and made a small 25gb partition for Remix from it. He can even use Windows' Disk Management Tool to do it.
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>>156320405
Nope, I'm just a random anon.
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>>156320279
She'd probably have summoned a second Gilgamesh anyway using her father's broken catalyst. Peak mana hours don't really seem to be a consideration for any of the other magi we've seen, they don't even mention it.
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>>156320279
If Tokiomi could summon Gilgamesh (the oldest hero) from fucking snake skin, Rin should have no problem with withered remains. Or the fact that her pendant has a years and years of magical energy in it. Tokiomi is not a fault here, Rin is for being a ditz at the last moment.
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>>156320491
>>156320484
See >>156320362
He didn't leave her the catalyst in the first place.
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>maxed honor ce
>Np 5 4* Nero
>No bride
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Why don't all the Servants with themes have them in GO?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS08rA74FFw&list=PLOE0rKb_5oTDkrGLIB_VSxbqus-VLJO3P&index=14
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>>156320415
No excuse for what? Rin fucking up? I mean shit, does he even have to do everything for her? Why did Tokiomi need to get Rin a catalyst? Especially since the bitch whined on and on about how she wanted a Saber. Why didn't she go and get herself a nice and powerful catalyst to summon a big and strong Saber capable of giving her a clear victory? Seems to me that Rin is the one to blame for her own problems.
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>>156320564
Whale problems.
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>>156320520
Nasu retcon?

He does seem fond of foreshadowing a Gil-Rin team up, which he keeps saying would have good chemistry.
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>>156320568
>not lightning swordsman
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>>156320520
And see >>156320589

If Rin wanted a Saber, knew she had no catalyst for a Saber, let alone a catalyst period, why the fuck didn't she get herself a catalyst? Why did she laze around and wait so long to actually summon her servant if this was something she was training her whole life to participate in?
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>>156320568
DW will go out of business if they do that
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>>156320589
The question here isn't whether he should have left her a catalyst, you don't even need on to summon. It's Tokiomi deciding to sabotage over his descendants entrance to a battle to the death on a whim.

Rin is an idiot for not noticing it but that's not a light hearted test.
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>>156320671
Catalysts don't have anything to do with what class you get, the war happened 50 years early and she was planning on using her magic at full capacity for the best chance to get a Saber, which Tokiomi fucked up. The fact that she had a catalyst all along is irrelevant because neither of them knew that.
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>>156320692
>on a whim
And once again:
>In the Prologue, the clocks were set one hour fast by Tokiomi when Rin woke up, but she only remembered them being 30 minutes fast. Rin suspected it to be some trick of her late father’s, a bit of playfulness on his part, seeming to say “if she can’t even notice a slip-up as trivial and close to home as this, it’s too soon for her to fight in the Holy Grail War.”

He was testing her. You can blame him all you want but he was right.
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>>156320671
She figured she wouldn't need one since she's the strongest mage around, and will thus get the strongest class.

Granted, it took her until the deadline to get her Servant so I'm not sure why she was so confident no one else had already snapped up the class.
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>>156320568
It'd be hard to get much impact out of a theme like Lightning Swordsman playing when the animation for something like Tsubame Gaeshi is so short. But they should do it if we ever get Saber Kojirou.
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>>156320798
>playfulness
>I'll sabotage my child in a fight to the death
>playfulness

A test would have been putting some obstacle in the way of getting to the will in the first place. Rin failing the test doesn't somehow make the test right.
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>>156320757
No, but you can definitely go for a Hero known to be a prominent sword wielder in life. Lord knows Sabers are abundant in Fate anyways. And yet Rin knew, especially since Kirei was bugging her about it non-stop, that a War was going on. But she preferred ignoring him and going about life before doing her summoning at the last possible minute. She had the time. Se had plenty of time. If Rin summons a weak servant, that's her fault and hers only.
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裸シャツはいい文明。
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>>156320871
He didn't expect her to be so incompetent as to literally only finish the deciphering on the very day of the summoning.
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>>156320757
>Catalysts don't have anything to do with what class you get
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>>156320871
You got a problem, go talk to Nasu about Tokiomi challenging Rin on her fuck-ups. Also, stop. He sabotaged nothing.
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Which one of you is the Nerofag that didn't even bother taking this chance to get their grailed bride to NP5? I have you on my friendlist, you know who you are. I want to hear your excuse.
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>>156320903
Add to that that Rin live in Japan. There is a lot of saber she can get here with bonus fame. screw european only rules NASU.
Medea summoned Kojiro as an assassin and he was already plenty strong.
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>>156320903
Classes in Fate are very often not quite what you would expect. Sword user Kojirou is an Assassin, Nightingale is a Berserker, Tesla is an Archer, trying your luck on a KotR could get you pretty much any class. What's more, she was underage and stuck in Japan, she didn't have anything close to Tokiomis connections to get a catalyst like Gilgameshes. Your dad deciding to fuck up your ritual a decade before you do it is far from your own fault, whether you notice it or not.
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>>156320970
Looking back on it, what the fuck was going on through Rin's head that made her decide to summon on the very last day, just before the War started.
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>>156320972
They don't. Catalysts go by individual, not class, and pretty much everyone qualifies for pretty much everything.

Fucking Gilles can do every single class.
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>>156311912
I had a 500 Years of Obsession, so I stuck it on Mashu and got free 10k dmg.
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>>156321081
Nah, it was Rin's fault for waiting at the last second and not at least trying. Not A, B, or C for effort for that gal. She fucked herself summoning at the very last possible moment. Literally the day-the fucking day-before the War began. And you're telling me Tokiomi sabotaged her? Rin sabotaged herself.
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>>156321154
>Gilles can do every single class
source?
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>>156320936
Animation update when

Also I want to fuck that brown
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>>156320568
>Wanting the game to be 2GB
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>>156321215
The timing on Rins summoning has absolutely nothing at all to do with Tokiomi playing around with the clock, and once you summon you can't just do a redo so it's even more irrelevant. Rin waiting until the last moment is her own fault but it's entirely separate to what Tokiomi did.

Everything worked out fine for Rin because muh future counter guardian but Tokiomi screwing with the ritual is literally, by the definition, sabotage totally regardless of how Rin fucked up in other ways.
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>>156321120
I could very easily see the clock thing as a wake up call saying "Don't proceed with summoning since you didn't even notice this little trick, you're not ready".

She'd have noticed by the next day if she didn't somehow decide it was a smart idea to participate in a deathmatch by doing everything at the very last minute.

Not meant maliciously, could've potentially screwed up her summoning worse, yes, but most of that is on Rin herself, and she even admits it.
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>>156321081
> Sword user Kojirou is an Assassin, Nightingale is a Berserker, Tesla is an Archer

Don't forget that Shuten Doji is an Assassin outta all the questionable class choices that one just triggered me the hardest. At least Jekyll had the thing about him giving people a surprise fucking with Hyde. BUT A NOTORIOUS BLOOD THIRSTY ONI? FUCK YOU
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>>156321081
>Sword user Kojirou is an Assassin, Nightingale is a Berserker, Tesla is an Archer, trying your luck on a KotR could get you pretty much any class
Aside from Sasaki none of them are prominent sword wielders, the KOtR are all pretty fucking strong, MOSTLY Saber, and therefor a good servants.
>she didn't have anything close to Tokiomis connections to get a catalyst like Gilgameshes
That doesn't and shouldn't stop her from TRYING if she wanted a Saber, or to win, so badly.
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>>156321360
I expected shuten to be berserker.
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>>156321226
He's in Ace-Royal as Lancer, Rider and Archer, he's in GO as Saber, Zero as Caster, Carmilla being Assassin means he almost definitely can be one and everyone qualifies for Berserker. Even an Avenger is probably not too far fetched.
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>>156321407
She should've asked Kirei for a catalyst, I'm sure he would've been happy to find her one.
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>>156321325
Yes it does. If she didn't decide to laze around at the last possible second, which is something the test is calling her out for, she would have noticed it earlier and wouldn't have fucked up. Once again, Rin is at fault, not Tokiomi. Rin. It was Rin who sabotaged herself.
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>>156321081
But she could at least find a katana and summon Nobu
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>>156321407
Rins failure to procure her own catalyst is unrelated to Tokiomi fucking the time. If you want to rag on Rin for being an idiot go for it, she is, but she wasn't the one who changed the clocks.
>>156321492
>set a bomb in someones house
>don't give them any indication that it's their at all
>plan for it to go off decades after you die of old age
>they don't notice it
>it goes off
>SABOTAGED YOURSELF ITS YOUR FAULT
What Tokiomi did was the definition of sabotage. He decided to test her by fucking with something directly related to her living or dying, rather then with her other magus materials.
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>>156321538
Didn't Mordred's master in Apo summon her with a relic stolen from the museum? Or am I thinking of something else?
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>>156321538
A musket or kettle would be more appropriate desu. She could have gotten a sample of TB from a disease research center and summoned Okita though.
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>>156321081
>What's more, she was underage and stuck in Japan
Not only does Rin have a passport, everyone in the visual novel is 18+.

Besides as the landlord of the Fuyuki, she has enough connections to the Clock Tower to be able to get design specifications for several Zelretch artefacts.
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>>156321627
He summoned her with a piece of Round Table he get from Clock Tower
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>>156321582
>set a bomb in someones house
Aaaand, that's it. I can no longer take you seriously if you think someone setting the clocks back equate to hiding a bomb in the house. And for the record? Rin knew the clocks were set back long before the summoning and she still payed them no mind as she proceeded along with her plans.

>But there's one thing more important than that.
>The wall clock is still ticking away time, having escaped destruction.
>…That reminds me.
>Yes, that's right. Come to think of it, every clock in my house was an hour early today for some reason.
>In other words, it's one in the morning right now.
>There's actually one more hour until my magical energy is at its peak.

>"…I did it again."
>I can do most things just like everyone else, but I have one hereditary curse.
>That is, to make the biggest mistakes at the most important times…

>"…Well, what's done is done. I should reflect on my actions."
>I am mad at my own stupidity.
>Still irritated, I glare at the man sitting there like he's important.

Once again, R I N I S A T F A U L T.
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>>156321468
>She should've asked Kirei for a catalyst

Kirei goes along and grabs her a joke catalyst and forces her to run around with Arash
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>>156321739
The gem sword was with all her dads shit IIRC, she didn't get it from the clock tower.
>everyone in the visual novel is 18+
ebin
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>>156321739
>everyone in the visual novel is 18+.

4chan Pass user since November 2012.
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>>156321582
Not much of a sabotage when there's no real evidence the magus's personal peak mana hours matter for the summoning, since it's the Grail which does the actual work. All we have to go for it is Rin's word, and we already know she doesn't know everything about the system.
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>>156321764
No. Arash is for Elsa only.
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>>156321761
The HGW is a fight to the death. Deliberately sabotaging the ritual for it is the same as making an attempt on their life.

And I don't know how many times I need to say this before it sinks into your thick skull, Rin not noticing that Tokiomi sabotaged her ritual does not absolve Tokiomi of all fault in sabotaging it in the first place. That is not how it works.
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>>156321419
I think most people did. Personally I thought Caster because Shuten Doji was known for having skills in the Dark Arts and the game even reflects that with her Demon Magic skill

Assassin is flat retarded. The only justifications for it till Nasu explains how he went full fanfiction on how Shuten Doji was secretly Solid Snake is that she was basically killed by Sake yet had a strong liking towards it. There's also my own assmad justification that it was done like that to not devalue Tamamo but hey
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>>156321850
There's no evidence it doesn't matter either, and Nasu didn't drop anything even close to a hint that peak mana isn't a real thing.

The very fact Tokiomi was screwing with time specifically to mess with peak mana hours proves that it's a thing if anything since Tokiomi knows much more then Rin.
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>>156321863
Arash is for getting to the last fight in a grail war and then screaming STELLLA effectively bypassing the need to kill your own servant.
He's a joke but at least he's a bro-tier joke.
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>>156321942
Just like the with gacha, peak mana hour is a meme.
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>>156321764
Arash would've been pretty good. Better than Kirei sticking her with Mephistopheles or something.
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>>156321426
>Ace-Royal
that shit's not even canon though, it has caster iskander of all things
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>>156321941
>Assassin is flat and retarded
FTFY
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>>156321873
>sabotaging
Stop using this word. Not in any way have you shown me how he actually sabotaged her.
>He ruined her peak summoning time
And what evidence do we have for that being an actual thing. What evidence do we have that she would have even gotten a strong servant with just the pendant and her "peak" time period.
>He didn't give her a catalyst so she was double screwed
Rin had all the time in the world to get a catalyst and decided to fuck it and procrastinate until the last possible second. Oh fucking wowzers, no wonder she fucked up.
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>>156321468
>I'm sure he would've been happy to find her one.
I'm sure he would've been happy to lend her Gilgamesh, even if she already has a servant.

But we all know how that works out.

don't trust Kotomine with anything.
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>>156321890
There was a guy who did vanilla ShirouxMedusa stories who turned it into hardcore NTR with not just Medusa but also Saber/Ilya and so on getting turned into cockslaves for a fat old man.

His fans hated it so much his sales dropped and in his next work he made a timeline with an alternate path to try and cover his ass, but nip fans pointed out how after the apparent slip all the stories still obviously take place consecutively.

I don't think he's done anything since.
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>>156321764
Arash is pretty good considering how expert he is in archery.He can even make his arrow turn around 90° or some shit.
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>>156321850
Seriously. The fact that there are how many servant summonings in Fate and not a single one depended on peak mana hours should be enough. Rin didn't have this from the get-go.
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>>156322010
Secretly altering someone elses ritual so that it doesn't work properly is the definition of sabotage you idiot, open a dictionary. Both Rin and Tokiomi, one of whom is an actual clock tower trained magus who has all the HGW documentation, paying attention to peak mana hours means that yes, it's something effective. In Zero, all the masters summon at night.

And I didn't even mention the word catalyst in that post and have been telling you over and over it's completely irrelevant, so good job showing that you are just replying for the (You)s.
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>>156310885
You call THAT hoarding quartz?
I have double that in stock.
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>>156321426
>>156322008
At the very least, Rider Gilles is hinted as possibility by Prelati
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>>156322032
that the one where the fat guy moves into shirou's house and fucks medusa behind his back?
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>>156322134
>and not a single one depended on peak mana hours should be enough
Every summoning in everything but Extra has happened in the middle of the night. Obviously we don't have timestamps for it all but when people like Zouken and Acht do it that specifically it's pretty clear.
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>>156322163
>prelati talks about gilles
tell me more
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Is Geronimo the most fucked up servant DW ever created?
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>>156322241
No because they don't design servants
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>>156322213
Maybe? I don't read NTR myself and I'm sure there's more then one person doing Fate NTR.
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>>156321942
Peak mana at least didn't matter for the Zero summonings conducted simultaneously, unless by some quirk of fate, Waver, Tokiomi and Kariya all shared the same peak hours. Ryuunosuke doesn't even know when the fuck his peak hour is.

We don't see a lot of summonings in FSN, but peak hours never seemed to matter for Shirou, indicating a strong catalyst is more important, and I doubt it'd have mattered for Rin either.

There's more things pointing to it being unimportant than there is to it being something that matters. In fact knowing how the Grail system works there's no reason at all for it to be important.

Hell, Tokiomi could've screwed with the time precisely because he knew it wasn't that important.
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>>156321991
>peak mana hour is a meme.
yeah nah you wish.
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wait what the fuck

the guy who made Cirnopedia can't shell out a few hundred bucks for a new phone?

Fuck half of /fgog/ has probably shelled out more than $200 for waifus already.
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>>156322104
>>156321995
Arash is great but summoning him is like an instant lose ticket.

To win a grail war with Arash you need to somehow be the last Servant standing without ever using any noble phantasms at all since Arash only has one and it kills him, which is a feat no one has ever managed.
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>>156322230
Basically, Francesca talks to True Caster about how Zouken stopped her from interfering in the fourth war to play with Gilles.

True Caster asks what class he was summoned in and guesses Saber or Rider as most likely, and then they have a laugh about how they somehow made him qualify for Caster.
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>>156311976
He only did 9 singles, him not getting shit is normal.
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It feels good to lazily ignore medal farming and just grind petals forever
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>>156322141
And yet we still have no actual, compliant proof that mana peak hours exist or that it can actually give you a strong servant, since ya know, every master in Zero had a catalyst. Which Rin didn't have. Which is why she relied so heavily on her pendant and mana peak hours.
>>156320415
>>156320279
So are you telling me these aren't (you)? That you also brought up Tokiomi not getting her a catalyst as screwing up her ritual more?
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>>156322350
NP is for pussies

t.Arash
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>>156322282
>Hell, Tokiomi could've screwed with the time precisely because he knew it wasn't that important.
That's Nasu enough, even.
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>>156322282
>but peak hours never seemed to matter for Shirou
Didn't Shirou say he found it easier to practice projection magic in the middle of the night?
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>>156322425
>two characters in the setting, one of whom is an accomplished and trained magus privy to his family secrets and acquainted with an original HGW member, think peak mana is a real thing
>every summon ever has happened in the middle of the night, even completely accidental ones
>the information is well over a decade old, and has been brought up in interview questions, and Nasu has never given even the slightest indication that it was bullshit, saying instead that Tokiomi did it as a test
>this somehow means it's totally unimportant
Right.

And I'm failing to see how explaining how the presence of a catalyst is irrelevant to the effect of changing the time, and mentioning that if the catalyst worked or not is irrelevant since it wasn't there in the first place, are the same as claiming that Tokiomi not leaving a catalyst is sabotage.

You are the only person who has said, or even implied, that. If you are going to respond to me again, make sure you are responding to things I've actually said instead of things you are pretending I did to help hide the fact you have no basis at all.
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>>156322350
>which is a feat no one has ever managed.
gil could've in zero, if we count Ea as his "NP"

but literally everything he has is np level so he doesn't really count
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>>156322525
Personal peak mana hours probably are a thing, but whether or not getting the exact right time influences the summoning drastically is another matter.

Kerry himself says that the summoning is a simple affair that relies on the Grail's power, not the magus's. The influence the magus exerts over the summoning goes as far as the provision of the catalyst, the strength of the magus itself seems hardly relevant.
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>>156322382
what gacha number are you on now? does it end? can you just infinitely clear out non-lore gachas and reset to repeat?
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>>156322753
> every summon ever happened in the middle of the night
> so did Rin's summon, even with the time changed
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>>156322825
This sounds about right. Unryuu is the prime example of someone who has no idea what they're doing just following instructions from a book and managing to summon a Servant with a fairly weak catalyst
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>>156322756
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>4chan Pass user since November 2012.
Is this shit for real? it feels like this is reddit
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>>156322821
GoB is an NP in itself as well, so it's really impossible for him to go a single fight without using an NP.
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Here's the cracked apk link:

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>>156322372
Not sure if ignoring his 10-rolls on purpose. Those are the ones that are SUPPOSED to improve the odds by guaranteeing a 4* of something.
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>...Sir Gawain, one of the Knights of the Round Table mentioned in the Legends of King Arthur.

>It's said that his prowess rivaled King Arthur's and his holy sword was equal in power to Excalibur-

Things you see replaying Extra.
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>>156322887
Not him but yes you can keep clearing the gacha as long as you have the ap to keep going. I'm on my 14th clear or so.
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>>156323065
It only guarantees a 4* CE. There's never been any roll with 9 3* CEs / Servants and one 4* Servant.

That aside, yeah, I didn't see his 10 rolls when I posted that, just saw the singles.
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>>156322887
There should be no limit if it's the same as always
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>>156322753
>Medea was summoned during the day
>Mana peak hours somehow matter when all of the Masters shown summoning their servants had catalysts
>Tokiomi is at fault for Rin being a lazy bum
Okay then.
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>>156323065
If you get technical, a 10 roll has the same chances as 10 singles for gold Servants, not just gold CEs.
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>>156323067
Don't even start.
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>>156323135
It's a CE or servant
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So if Rin summoned another Gilgamesh instead of EMIYA, would they get along? I think he would have killed her the moment she qould have ordered him to clean her house.
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>>156323067
>his holy sword was equal in power to Excalibur
It's only an A+ rank Anti-Army NP, it's not even close to being as strong as Excalibur.
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>>156323198
*just not gold CEs
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>>156323220
Sorry friend, I don't make the rules. Extra's pretty clear about it.
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>>156323215
Officially, yes.
Actually, it doesn't guarantee you jackshit. I've yet to see anybody, as I said, roll 9 3* things and a 4* Servant.

One ten roll guarantees one Servant and one 4* CE.
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>>156323219
Maybe if it were Rin and Ko-Gil. Even regular Gil isn't that lax with Tine and he's been the most lax with her than any of his other Masters (not including Hakuno).
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>>156322215
Arturia and Gil's summonings happened simultaneously in Zero, in Germany and Japan. Pretty sure "middle of the night" in Japan is at best evening in Germany.
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>>156323135
It happens, just not very often
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>>156323282
A++/EX > A+
Anti-Fortress > Anti-Army
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>>156323219
Nasu said that Gil would like her. He'd probably just pull out a house-cleaning Noble Phantasm while bragging and monologuing about it.
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>>156323219
Rin and Gil are supposed to get along like a house on fire but I'm pretty sure Gil would just kill her if she pulled the shit she does with Emiya and Cu.
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>>156323323
Even with Hakuno, Gil will murder you if you annoy him too much.
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>>156313469
>using support Okita and not based EMIYA

Your own fault. Took me 8 turns and no command spells.
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>>156323379
Okay, but that's never been directly confirmed in the same way that Extra just confirmed that Galatine = Excalibur. Sorry about that friend.
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>>156323417
>EMIYA and Cu are only interested in teasing Rin because they think she's cute
Rin wouldn't have to pull that sort of shit with Gil if she summoned him, because he's not as much as a womanizer
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>>156323219
>implying Gilgamesh would crash the living room like some mongrel faker instead of making a noble and regal entrance
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>>156323518
>no fairy writing
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>>156323519
He might not tease her because she's cute but the guy is still an arrogant and insubordinate prick. You've got a master who burns command seals at the drop of a hat and a servant who kills their master at the drop of a hat.

They might get on after they both find out they are huge jews but before then it seems pretty likely it won't end well.
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>>156323592
Sorry, but Extra confirms that Galatine was said to be the equal of Excalibur. You can argue against it all you like, but that's entirely canon.
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>>156323518
It's wrong so now we know that nothing said in Extra is canon.
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>>156323619
Doesn't Gilgamesh right off the bat threaten to kill Hakuno if they use a command spell on him too?
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>>156323638
Does that mean that Lancelot never beat Gawain in one hit then?
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>>156323619
How would Gil react to Rin burning a CS on that "Obey me" command? Angered, or impressed?
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>>156323702
No no that part is canon because I said so
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>>156323738
Judging from his past masters, he would either immediately kill her or plot to do it later.
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>>156320903

Rin was the retard who stood in middle of the circle where the servant is summoned, botching the ritual and making Archer lose his memories briefly. She fucking sucks as Master.
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>One of the major knights mentioned in the Arthurian cycle and often thought to be King Arthur's nephew.

>Equal in skill to Lancelot, he served as an adviser to Arthur. He was at odds with Lancelot due to his slaying of both of Gawain's brothers.

More tidbits.
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>>156323696
How about you command him not to kill you?
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>>156323738
He would probably kill her, but in only used that command because EMIYA refused to give his name
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>>156323696
>>156323827
You don't have any command seals with Gil in CCC, he's hanging around to see if you are interesting.
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>>156323696
IIRC you don't have any spells to threaten to use on Gilgamesh when you get him since you already burnt all three to gain his favour.

I think the only time he kills Hakuno is when Hakuno politely refuses to accept him as a Servant. Challenging him to earn your trust instead has him spare you.
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>>156323881
Then why he threaten to kill you if you don't have any command seals?
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>>156323738
He would kill her immediately.
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>>156323802
Joke's on you cause it looked cool and everyone was impressed.
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>>156323812
>>156323067
The translations in Extra are pretty dodgy. Lu Bus profile physically hurt me.
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>>156323702
If Extra is the only proof for that, no.
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>>156323812
>both of Gawain's brothers
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>>156313469
>Seals
Faggot
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>>156323504
No one had the Red Man on for support and I neglected to level mine.
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>>156323956
He doesn't, he says if you don't entertain him he will just leave and if you piss him off he kills you. Hakuno uses all 3 seals just to get him to stick around.
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>>156323802
Good thing the Grail had a handy dandy "teleport the servant to another location to avoid spatial displacing retards" trick or else Stay Night would be down one heroine.
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>>156324021
Gaheris and Agravain.
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>>156324021
I suppose King Arthur being recorded as a man isn't enough to suggest that maybe the legends aren't as accurate to what actually happened in Fate?
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>>156324021
>>156324126
Isn't it Gareth and Gaheris
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>>156324059
Represent.
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>>156324164
Background info on the Camelot chapter that Nasu posted on his blog reveals Gareth is a girl.
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>>156324021
And most people thought Arthur is a man,your point?
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>>156324205
And King Arthur is also a girl. Why does Gareth actually being a girl but not recorded as one make a difference?
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>>156324193
nice to know i have brothers here.
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>>156324205
t-thanks nasu
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>>156324164
Gareth is now Gwain's little sister because why not
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>>156323991
>rhino

4chan Pass user since July 2016.
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Rin never

>prepared a catalyst for the most important event of her life
>stood in middle of the summoning cycle, risking the ritual
>forgot about the clocks

How can she be considered a genius?
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>>156324164
Gawain has Gaheris, Agravain and Mordred as brothers, Gareth as his sister.
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>>156323802
I don't blame her entirely for all the fuck-ups.

I suspect Kirei taught her a lot of things about the Grail War that weren't really true, just for laughs.
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man cuckposting /fgog/ was a mistake, if I wanted the real (You)s I should've gone to /a/ sooner
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>>156324205
>>156324295
reminder that gareth-chan aka the best 4* ST lancer soon
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>>156324303
Because plot.
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>>156324303
Its not like the other magus shown are paragons of intellect.
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>>156323219
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>>156324306
Gawain has never acknowledged Agravain or Mordred as siblings in Fate franchise or Morgan as mother.
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>>156324306
Morgan is Gawains mum?
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>>156324303
>never prepared a catalyst
Excuse me
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>>156324404
>Money is power
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>>156324265
I held off on leveling him for the fucking longest cause DW never fixed his glitch. Made me scared to use him. Guess there's no holding back now.
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>>156324303
She had catalysts. Read HA.
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>>156324480
Just to think, she could've summoned Ruler Martha with those.
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>>156324480
Rin is such an idiot that it makes her cute in a ditzy kind of way.
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>>156324565
>>156324480
>>156324589
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>>156324303
Let's be honest, compared to the others heroines, Rin is seen as a "genius". If only Nasu wasn't so afraid of holding back his content cause of length to money ratio or whatever it was, we could have had more heroines. I'm legitimately interested in seeing what a Medea Lily route would be like. Even if I don't actually like Lily. Hell, we might have even gotten to see the Fleece can do.
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>>156324648
The loli Medea route wasn't Medea Lily, it was adult Medea in a childs body.
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>>156324385
Who is the girl?
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>>156324303
>>156324648
Have you guys even read the VN? Rin says herself that she always messes up at the most crucial moments.
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You know what would've been good? If loliRin's magical adventure in Zero featured her interaction with Gilgamesh.
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>>156324728
loliRin's magical adventure in Zero should have had her end as Gilles plaything desu, it was easily the worst episode.
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>>156324648
But Sakura self taught herself magic without any help or crest in FHA and Arturia administrated a country perfectly. Rin is basically the dumbest of the heroines.
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>>156324714
I have. But what does that have to do with the original question of why Rin is seen as a genius. Or my post comparing her intellect to the others heroines.
>>156324686
Yeah, I guess I worded that wrongly. I wonder if that would have made Illya obsolete.
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>>156324770
That's just edgy. Make it end like the LN where she just never found her friend.
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>>156324791
>But what does that have to do with the original question of why Rin is seen as a genius
Because most people don't know about her flaws?
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>>156324689
Gudako. Who else.
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>>156324159
no one?
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>>156324728
That would have been pointless, what I wanted to see from that episode is see loli Rin and Shota Shirou interact.
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>>156324648
>tfw Caster route never
>tfw your waifu will never be famous to have a lot of fanart or figs
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>>156324906
Thank christ you weren't in charge then
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>>156324791
she's a genius in that she's a prodigy

not many magi have half the potential she does
she's also booksmart(about magic stuff anyway,though even then she makes mistakes about certain things)
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>>156324872
Really? All I see are people picking at Rin's flaws. Though I don't see how waiting till the last possible moment to summon your servant to fight in the Really Big Thing you spent your whole life training around can be seen as her fucking up at the worst possible moment. That's just her being retarded.
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>>156324770
>>156324821
https://exhentai.org/g/788575/62fb9cfd49/

close enough
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>>156325094
>netorare

The fuck?
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>>156324910
I have a weird sort of relationship with Caster. On one hand, I hate the amount of wasted potential she had and how she was nothing more than an antagonist and throw-away gag. On the other hand, its the fact that she's wasted potential that makes me actually like her character.
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>>156325020
She has a spot guaranteed just by being from one of the three families. She was confident she could get a Servant despite how late she summoned hers.
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>>156325138
The only one for Ryuunosuke is Gilles, that slutty whore temptress Rin tries to break them apart.
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>>156325020
By people not knowing her flaws he meant the other people within the story.
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>>156325020
I didn't realize that the people in this thread are people from the VN. Rin could not have spent her whole like training for the grail war, as she nor anyone else could have known the war would happen in just 10 years. Plus she never cared that much about the war. She didn't even have a wish.
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>>156325195
Oh shit. I thought were we on the topic of 3D not 2D. Well yeah, though Shirou gets glimpses (more likes full on peepshows) to see just how scrambled Rin can be.
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>>156325018
>even then she makes mistakes about certain things
"Reality Marble" isn't exactly the first thing a magus would think when they see Shirou's magic for the first time.

Like, the first time you go see an illusionist in real life, you're going to have no idea how he did what he did, but you're probably going to assume he's doing it with fancy tricks and not real magic.
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>>156325240
She spent forever training for it, storing up a shitton of magical energy in gems ad everything. Even if she didn't want a wish, she wanted to fulfill her family's goal to reach the Root. And also really wanted Saber, the strongest servant. But didn't make an effort besides choosing what time to summon her servant.
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In Rins defense, while she did wait until the last minute to get Saber, she still summoned before the Saber slot was taken.
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I think the hardest part about the Sumanai battle is just getting those Buster cards to show up at the same time


Also Iri and Cu alter look kinda cute together
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>>156325347
It's not good to mix up canon with headcanon.
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>>156324910
>that habbo chair
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>>156325427
Point out what was headcanon.
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>>156325416
>hardest
Just take okita/jack, do two NP and it's over
looks like you're struggling on this picture
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What did Nasu mean by this
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>>156325452
Training for years and storing up gems specifically for the grail war or giving a shit about the root.
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>>156325551
Nah I got it

I don't necessarily think it's the hardest battle no, just tedious

I wish I tried Jack or Okita though, what made them effective?
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>>156325591
>anime
Non-canon, he didn't mean anything
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>>156325646
ignoring def
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>>156325601
And yeah, she doesn't give a shit about the Root, I never said that. I said she would just go with her family;s plan of reaching the Root.
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>>156325670
Medea's Master is canon.
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>>156325793
>case files
>canon
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>>156325712
Because she stored gems and trained doesn't mean she did it just for the war. This is where you're having problems with mixing up canon.

> I said she would just go with her family;s plan of reaching the Root.
But she wouldn't, as she said she had no plans of what to do with the grail when she won it.
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>>156325793
It's alternative universe.
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Remember the time Mahsu had a revive as her third skill?
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>>156325873
She used up all of her gems she spent years storing magical energy in summoning her servant and using them during her fights in the war. Seems to me like she intended them for that purpose.
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>>156325963
She used them because she needed them.
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>>156325941
Remember when sumanai needed to be ascended to use his third skill?
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>>156326027
Whatever I'm fine with accepting her not saving them specifically for the hgw. It really doesn't matter either way.
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>>156325793
No, he isn't.
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>>156310651
Wow, I saved this pic yesterday. Spooky
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>>156324613
So who was she trying to summon anyway?
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>Case Files isn't canon :^)
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>>156326208
No one, she just wanted a Saber.
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>>156326257
It isn't.
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>>156326257
Grand Order isn't canon either so you aren't helping your case here.
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>implying F/SN is canon
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>implying Tsukihime is canon
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>>156325551
>two

How?Took me at least 4 to kill him.Both of them hit like 10k each.And Herc with Volumen was the one finished it.
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>zero is canon
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>Prisma
>canon
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>>156326512
Okita does 22k with waver buff
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>>156326594
It has Ilya so yes.
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>Fate Stay Night is canon
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>>156324589
I didn't know I wanted this.
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>>156326257
I don't get it. What's the problem here? Why is it weird that Olga is there? She's just like any another person. It's not like there is only 1 of her in all of the Nasuverse.
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>>156324589
Martha is too good for Rin.
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>>156313124
I know right? The guy rolled only 207 quartz and it's supposedly somehow a huge deal. It's almost insulting.

For example I rolled 500+ quartz and 38 tickets for Jack during her rate up and failed.
It's not unheard of to roll over 1000 quartz and fail to get a specific 5* servant.
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>>156326714
Martha is more of a whore than Rin.
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>>156326814
I like how you just immediately went to sex.
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>>156326814
>Martha
>died a virgin
>Rin
>sold her body to an old man for gems
???
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>>156325858
>Literally only work actually canon to VN

kek
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>>156326868
>virgin
Catholic church lies.
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>>156326814
>Martha still a virgin
>Rin sell her chastity to autistic ginger sword for magic
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>2/2/2
Dammit friend, level his skills!
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>>156327073
Dodge level 10 should be mandatory on all Cuzillas.
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>>156327043
But Shirou is really handsome
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>>156327073
Search for a better friend, people who don't level 5* skills aren't worth your time.
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>>156327134
What are you, gay?
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>>156327236
What are you, a faggot?
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>>156327073
I just realized I don't actually need his NP at all for this fight, which means I can use non-friend supports. That simplifies things.
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>>156327073
Bring Herkek
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After maxing Waver's attack buff, which do I max next? I have Crit and Def buff both on 6.
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>>156324159
mega pastebin has an explanation I believe.
Or ask reddit, they should have it too.
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>>156327845
Def, I'd say.
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>>156327845
Def up
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>chains from the lvl 90 petal quest
>chains from the mini gacha
I want to kiss the chain hell a goodbye forever.
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>>156317983
The Leviathan sounds alot scarier.
The Behemoth sounds like a giant pet that you'd be a friend with.
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>>156327845
I leveled 3>2>1 in that order because 2 is more useful in hard events.
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>>156327845
As someone who enjoys leeching off Waver friends, I'd say def as well
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>>156327845
I maxed out Def buff first because you get to benefit from the lower cooldown since it's often a good idea to cast it on the first turn. It also keeps you alive when shit gets real.
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>>156328054
Right, Behemot sound comfy here. More like a big apatic cow.
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>>156328207
Yeah, i'd like to sit on it's back and take a nap.
Maybe feed him some trees.
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>>156327073
Got an 8/10/6 cuzilla if you need one still.

113,828,825
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What is he trying to say with that look?
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What nodes have you guys gotten CE drops from?
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>>156328454
He's trying to tempt me, which he shouldn't do as a saint. Repent.
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>>156328536
The former petal quest
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The final form of the endgame hell.
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>>156328536
What you need to understand is, the 40 ap all have the same drop rate and the lower ones have a lesser drop rate.
You aren't getting one because you are unlucky not because there's a specific node to farm that has a better chance.
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>>156328536
Got one from Medb quest today
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Where to farm silver medals?
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>>156328907
30 AP IIRC
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>>156323135
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>>156328536
I've gotten one from the Dantes node and one from the Arjuna node.
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>>156329037
Hand one over!
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I made this guide for eveyone that want to try the RemixOS option
http://pastebin.com/erHG1fNZ

sorry for all the spelling mistakes but I just want to help
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>>156328003
>>156328019
>>156328129
>>156328168
Aight, zero QP here I come.
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>>156328736
We seriously need more reliable ways to get QPs and Exp cards.
Spending 40AP just for 1M QP or 9 Exp cards is tedious as hell
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>>156313389
NOBU!
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Who next on 1 AP? Tamamo?
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>>156329256
EMIYA.
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>>156329256
it would only make sense.
It is a Nero event afterall.
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>>156329256
Why does everything think one of the bosses is Tamamo?
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>>156329198
The current mini gacha is best value overall.
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>>156329256
yeah tamamo then medb then nero
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>>156329256
Medb with Raiko
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Heracles
>Pitiless Twelve Labours: 11x Guts, revive with 120k HP
>Great Hero's Aura: All enemies Arts down 100%

Scathach
>Revenge of the Kingdom of Shadows: Self attack up 50% and critical chance 100% and critical damage 100% and instant death on all enemies (5000% chance)
>Special Training Menu: Seal all enemy NP (3 turns)

Tamamo

>I'll Slim You Down: All enemies max HP reduced by 2000 (10 turns)
>Witch's Poison: Poison all enemies (10 turns, 1000 damage/turn)

Siegfried
>Roaring Evil Dragon's Blood Armor: Defense up by 200% Full Charge: NP gauge +10
>Infinite Gold: NP gauge +10

Medb
>Dedication of the Queen: +1 NP gauge to a single target
>Return to the Queen: When HP is 0, all allies attack up 30%

Gilgamesh
>The King Awaits on the Throne: Self attack up (10% increase per turn from 0 to 100%) and special resistance up (10% decrease per turn from 100 to 0%) and 200% resistance to buff removal (1 time) and all enemies NP reduced by 500%
>My Head is Heavy: All enemies Buster down 50%

???(All Out Battle)
>Bow Before Me:Charm all enemies
>Preparing a Path: When HP is 0, instant death effect on all enemies (5000% chance)
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>>156329480
>no Hassan
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>>156329480
>Tamomo
Nah.
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Are any of the missions better for petal farming than others?
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>get super great success
>hurry up to roll a ticket
>get astolfo
Oh, well, it's still better than a 3*ce I guess
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Is Stheno still shit? I want to use her over Assassin Scath
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>going through skills on wiki for fun
>see
>Magecraft (魔術, Majutsu?) is knowledge about modern Thaumaturgy.
>B: ( Fionn mac Cumhaill, EMIYA (Assassin))
Why does Fionn have a skill only possessed as a servant by the EMIYA family?
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>>156329739
>Is Stheno still shit?
Yes.
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>>156329731
It honestly isn't.
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>>156329753
since when magic is emiya only
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>>156329705
The last 40AP is the best for petals
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>>156329753
Magecraft isn't Emiya exclusive.
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>>156329784
>>156329813
The key word is
>modern
The only listed ones besides Fionn are the servant versions of kerry and shirou, two modern "magus". Fitting as they are the only two servants from the modern era.

Fionn isn't modern however.
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>>156329753
>people can't learn Magic
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>>156327134
I'm dumb and trying to figure out where the EMIYA-like Shirou on the far left is from and why it's associated with Illya.
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>>156329880
>demi-servant Kayneth
>not modern
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>>156326257
>>156326317
That's loli Olga in 2004.

Also, Case Files is the sole work that is set exactly in the same line than FSN as it's explained by Nasu in SF1 afterword. All the otehr ones are slightly parallel worlds.
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>>156329753
Why is Emiya as good at magecraft as Fionn?
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>>156329947
That's Emiya, and it's from when people theorised he's Ilya route before Nasu just decided he's a Fate Shirou with no game because that's so much more interesting.
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>>156329997
>That's loli Olga
No it isn't. She's clearly not a loli, so she can't be loli Olga.
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>>156329753
>>156329880
>>156329952
We have to wait until Material III, but they will probably just remove the "modern" and call it a day.
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>>156330064
It's said in the novel itself she is a little girl. Blame the illustrator then.
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>>156330012
>Ilya route

That was fucking retarded when Nasu explicitly said Illya route was supposed to be in another VN with Sakura's, in which Shirou ABANDONS the ally of justice shit too. It was going to be Fate/Another Night.
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Lancer Kiyohime is really cute, I wish I had her.
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>>156330132
Nasu never said the Ilya route was going to be another route where he drops being a hero, he just said it was going to be as paired with Sakuras as 'these routes actually have things happen' unlike Fate and UBW. It got cut, and then relegated to half of HF where it has the hero dropping shit, then cut again but he's never talked about the original.

Not to mention that route was scrapped a very long time ago during production and having Emiya be Ilya route doesn't mean Emiya has to follow whatever Nasu wanted that route to be like. It was a well liked fan theory that helped explain Emiyas meeting with Ilya.
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>>156330138
You are really cute too
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>>156330129
She does look like a little girl, but she does not look like a loli.
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>>156330138
I wish I had rolled Rider Mordred and not her
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>>156330132
>>156330250
I really wish he'd shit out some lines of what that would entail.
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>>156330303
It's just Prism Ilya.
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>>156330250
>tfw if illya ever gets a route she still won't get any scenes
At least you won't be lonely, sacchin.
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>>156328373
Thanks, I owe you twice! You offered me Da Vinci support the other day too, for the Hassan quest. Haven't tackled that one yet.
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Why Japan?
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>>156330401
Want me to switch the bride ce back to da vinci then?
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>>156330250
Anon, are you fucking stupid. He clearly said the story was divided in two:

Hero/ideals = Rin and Saber. Stay Night (which was going to be called Fate/Stay Night UBW but that was too long).

Family/drop ideals = Illya and Sakura. Fate/Another Night and another subtitle I forgot.

Illya fucking HATES those ideals more than anyone and thinks of them retarded bullshit because is the same shit that she lost her family for. You've to be idiotic if you think she'll tolerate that shit from Shirou, when it was exactly how her father used to do and why he got his mother killed.

Also, EMIYA only remembers Saber vividly. So much for Illya to be important. She's just another forgotten footnote, like Rin and Sakura.
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>>156330393
>Sacchins route gets cut during development
>they remake the game years later after getting rich as fuck
>don't include it in the remake
Why?
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>>156330250
Nasu went and said that it was similar to HF but there was another option:

I want to Protect Sakura
I want to Protect Illya
I want to stay a chuuni manchild-I mean hero of justice
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>>156330661
he does remember illya though

you see that in the forest fight in HF when he tells Shirou to grab her and run as he stays and tries to fight Alter by himself
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>only 12 fous left

Finally this bronze grinding hell is nearly over.
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>>156330661
Nasu never said the two sides were divided into hero/family or ideals/no ideals, he said they were divided in story events and tone like near and far side of Tsukihime. Emiya also has a line with Ilya saying he could never possibly kill his beloved imouto.

Not to mention that you are using a product that had at least two entire routes cut out of it to try and extrapolate what the other routes would contain and how the characters would be like in the early stages of development with no info or basis.

It was always a fan theory, but it was a popular one. Nasu decided to make the statement that Emiya is just from Fate, which to me is just boring and cuts the mystery of how his grail war went.
>>156330738
That was after the route was cut. Ilya had a full separate route, after it was cut she had an ending in HF, then that was cut too. Nasus never talked about the original.
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>>156330806
>Nasu decided to make the statement that Emiya is just from Fate

he never said that though
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>>156330593
Thanks! I'm about to sleep though, so no hurry.
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>>156330783
No, he doesn't. He only jolts his memories after he has contact with them in Fuyuki. His only eternal memory is Saber. He's the one speaking about their meeting in the Prologue of the VN which mirrors Fate Shirou in Last Episode.

He only recalls who the fuck Illya is, her face and voice (this is what I mean with vividly) when he sees her again. Saber, though, she's always number one in his thoughts and the memory of the meeting is the only thing he clearly recalls. Everything else is through a 'fog' or 'mist', blurry.
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>>156330843
Hunny bunny.
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>>156330878
He did, he said Emiyas route is essentially Fate Good, where everything went the same but Emiya and Saber weren't a couple.
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>>156329880
This is from his knowledge fish thumbsucking isnt it?
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>>156330843
I don't know how or why but he's pretty good with the damage CE.
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>>156330806
>Nasus never talked about the original.
He did in a pre anniversary interview. He even said he used the plot of it to write Hollow Ataraxia.

And you're mistaken. It wasn't a popular theory in Japan. That's why he's asked 'Archer reached Saber at last' all the fucking time because to Japanese, Archer = fate Shirou since the beginning. Only dumb western lolicons came up with this "theory" shit.
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>>156330906
read it again,he said it was a route where he and Saber fought together,destroyed the grail,but he couldn't convince her to drop her wish

that's all he stated
we also know he never returned avalon to her either which is a very key difference both thematically and mechanics wise
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>>156330906
>Emiya and Saber weren't a couple.
He didn't say that either. Stop making shit up. If it was like Fate route, they were a couple. Period. When you use the 'word' route is because he had a love interest which in case of Fate, it's Saber.
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>>156330974
>He even said he used the plot of it to write Hollow Ataraxia.
He said he based some of the Ilya events on original ideas, not HA was a remade Ilya route.
>And you're mistaken. It wasn't a popular theory in Japan.
There's plenty of Emiya/Ilya fan art on pixiv to prove you wrong. This whole discussion started because of some.
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>>156330992
He literally says the route is essentially Fate Good. Another ending to the Fate route.
>>156331030
He also literally says the major difference was Saber didn't fall in love with Shirou.

Please read the interviews before making shit up.
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>>156330891
I'll just swap it to da Vinci before I go to sleep.
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>>156330669
sacchin isn't allowed to be happy.
but there will always be that one bad end. Nasu can't take that away.

>>156330843
The strongest berserker.
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>you choose the 10AP team for the 40AP quest
Shit just got real. All that semi-wasted AP though.
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>>156331040
>He said he based some of the Ilya events on original ideas, not HA was a remade Ilya route.
He called HA "maybe this is the Ilya route" (in a non romantic sense) because he already wrote the elements he wanted to explore in the Illya route there: Angra Mainyu.

>here's plenty of Emiya/Ilya fan art on pixiv to prove you wrong
Because he's her brother, you fucking retard. There's also plenty Cu/EMIYA. Does this mean Archer comes from the missing Cu route?

Nobody ever asked Nasu about Illya route shit theory you lolicons had. What they did ask if EMIYA/Archer reunited with Saber at last in Last Episode which Nasu never denied. This was 4 years ago. It wasn't a shock or anything he pulled of his ass. He even clearly had EMIYA had the YOU'RE THE ONLY THING I'LL REMEMBER EVEN IF I GO TO HELL repeated twice about Saber.
Not Illya.

He had absent Saber cockblock Hakuno in CCC too. I'm sure he's going to cockblock again in Extella too.
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>>156331073
no,takeuchi was the one who said that and Nasu was like "yeah sure,why not"
>He also literally says the major difference was Saber didn't fall in love with Shirou.
citation needed
>Please read the interviews before making shit up.
take your own advice
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>>156331073
You're adding your own interpretation there a bit. What was said was that Shirou and Saber "Didn't save each other".
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>>156331073
>He also literally says the major difference was Saber didn't fall in love with Shirou.

No, he doesn't you idiot. He says the difference is that he never make her drop her wish for the Grail. This has no absolutely no bearing in their romance, considering Shirou and Saber in Fate route fucked and dated and Saber still told Shirou to get fucked for the longest time when he tried to make her drop the Grail quest. That's why Shirou had his tantrum after their date and left her in the bridge, or did you not fucking play the route?
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>>156331206
>Angry Manjew was originally Ilya route
This is absolute headcanon.

Nasu only answers questions he wants to and some types of questions are outright refused. He ended the route debate when he straight up said he's from Saber route, which is also all of the Extra stuff. I'm not arguing that he really is Ilya route, I'm telling you that some people, both nips and non-nips, had that as a theory before Nasu outright said it. Which is the absolute truth, this is a reply chain from nip fanart with that spin.
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>actually thinking there's an Illya route

Illya even loses in Prisma Illya.
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>>156331359
But Illya win the Miyubowl in Prisma
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>>156331348
>This is absolute headcanon.
No, it isn't. NASU FUCKING SAID SO. I wish I had saved those sweet 6 pages long of interview because he already stated that was the plot of Illya route: SHIROU POSSESSED BY FUCKING ANGRA INSTEAD OF SAKURA. He just chose Karen to be the heroine instead.

>both nips
Please give me proof. Because nips always assumed he was either Fate Shirou or in love with Saber, yet shipped him hard with Rin. Nobody gave a flying fuck about Illya except a very small minority who are even lesser than the fujos. You using "n-nips thought so too" without evidence is pathetic. This bullshit was widespread thanks to fuyuki wiki which had the false information about the elephants being divine beasts or trolling shit like that.
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>>156331490
>Nasu said so
>b-but I don't have the interview and it's not online
Okay
>please give me proof
You are replying to nip fan art of Ilya route.
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>>156331207
>>156331223
>>156331275
>Unlimited Blade Works BD set II: Q: What was the Fifth Grail War that Heroic Spirit Emiya experienced in his lifetime like? Was the Archer summoned there also Emiya?
>Nasu: It was a world where the conditions at the beginning of the war were mostly the same, but something was missing. Shirou summoned Saber and fought until the end, didn't save Saber's heart but understood her, and they destroyed the grail together and parted... that's the image I have.
>Takeuchi: Ahh, so something like a Fate route Good End we didn't make in the game?!
>Nasu: Yeah, probably. After that, it is believed he cooperates with Rin who survived, and heads to London.

If Takeuchis statement that it was Fate Good was wrong, Nasu would have said so, to say otherwise would be a huge misconception.
>b-but he said probably
Japanese speech patterns.

And didn't save Sabers heart means that Shirou never made Saber give up on her endless reincarnation to try and save her nation, which happens after she falls in love with Shirou. It's very obvious. They probably still fucked but Sabers feelings for Shirou weren't the same as they were in Fate.
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>>156331541
>You are replying to nip fan art of Ilya route.
Please show me this fanart

>I'm a newfag who doesn't know the interview where he spoke of Last Episode, the three routes, the whole HF Normal End used to be the True one before he switched it, plus Tsukihime and KnK

It's the same interview, you ignorant retard. He used the draft idea he had for Illya in hollow ataraxia, the one he couldn't use in HF. The exploration of Angra Mainyu's backstory and Shirou's possession (instead of Sakura).
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>>156331718
I'm not going to link you to a post you can get to by following the reply chain. If you want to be willfully ignorant then go ahead, but don't pull a "j-just pretending to be retarded".

And if he said it, quote it. If you know what interview it was it should be easy to fine right?
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>>156331649
>which happens after she falls in love with Shirou.

No, you didn't play Fate route? It happens when she goes into the basement. It has shit to do with her relationship with Shirou. They fucked and dated before that and Saber still told him to get fucked. It wasn't because she loved him, it was because she realized she was being retarded because she never actually did anything wrong.
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This hour is so critic. Can't connect in any way with my shitty connection
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>Mother of Hero

My daughteru time to shine again
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>>156331718
ciation needred
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>>156331808
They already shone with Sumanai.
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>>156331785
You can't reply with a link to this so called fanart where it proves there were nips into this theory instead of simply doing a fanart of a crack pairing like Cu/EMIYA?

>If you know what interview it was it should be easy to fine right?

The only place the interview was stored was a nip website which took it down after hosting it. You can see scraps of it if you dig hard in Boy's Love. It had been translated in /a/ but old archives were killed. In case your newfagginess ignored this. The most controversial part was the whole shit about HF ending. I have no idea why the fuck you stubbornly cling I'm lying about Nasu using his ideas to create Hollow Ataraxia basics: Angra backstory.
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>>156331883
Thats why I said "again".
She been with me in all 4 Quest.
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>>156331649
so it's nothing like Fate

since for all we know the battles went completely differently
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>>156321360
>>156321941
Shuten Douji's character is pretty much split between Ibaraki and Shuten I think, probably because Ibaraki doesn't have too much to her as a character in mythology. Here Ibaraki is basically the leader of the oni and the really bloodthirsty one. Shuten takes more from the stuff about her trying to seduce Kintoki and they basically made an Assassin out of that, Shuten Douji was also said to be very intelligent compared to the other oni so she gets that more than Ibaraki. They both have oni magic either way and there's already an explanation for how that covers a wide variety of skills in one so neither of them really needed to be Caster.
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>>156330843
I've had a few different ones

But Mashu has been consistently reliable as always

Can't shake how weird she sounds with the new VA though
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>>156331950
>>156327134
That's the fanart he means.
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>>156331950
You mean the image in this thread? Which is the start of this reply chain?

All I'm hearing from you is you being an idiot and claiming that there's this interview with Nasu that totally backs up everything you are saying, but it isn't anywhere online and no one could find it but it's totally there now blindly listen to everything you say.

I'd be totally fine accepting it if Nasu said it. Which he apparently didn't.
>n-no he did I swear even though I can't back up anything I'm saying
That isn't how it works. In fact I believe you even less since you get embellishing how lost this interview is.
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>>156331996
Battles seem to be identical. EMIYA knew about Rider vs Saber battle, for example.
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>>156332062
And that fanart is what supposedly means he came from an Illya route and isn't just the nips trying to leave out Illya of a pic? KEK. This was even made after the Nasu interview in UBW.
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>>156331996
If Emiya route is a Fate Good end, then it leads on that his route is Fate with slight differences. UBW True and Good and HF True and Normal are basically the same up until the end.

The route could be more different for sure, but it's not going to be wildly different with people dying where they lived before and such. Nasu said Fate was the closest to Emiya years ago.
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>>156331790
She gave on that dream because of her relationship with Shirou. Remember Tiger dojo 13?
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>13th mini gacha already
A bountiful harvest.
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38th RETRY HERE WE GO
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>>156331996
So I assume even in EMIYA's timeline Archer was still EMIYA because the throne of heroes exists outside of time and some Shirou somewhere was going to become a counter guardian and become EMIYA, or something, right?
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>>156332206
>(You)
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>>156332206
>38th
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>>156332261
Probably. Emiya dies really early in Fate and hardly interacts with Shirou at all so it could work.
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>>156332206
You should have Cuzilla in your final slot so he can slowly wear down his health with BBC.
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>>156332278
>Ibaraki and Dantes
This seems like a weird pair. I can't imagine an interaction between those two.
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>>156332181
>She gave on that dream because of her relationship with Shirou
No. She chose to not KILL Shirou over the Grail because of her relationship with him. She had two options. Kill him or not kill him. Because EMIYA survived to become EMIYA, it means she never went to the basement and had this epiphany. Saber wouldn't have given up her wish if wasn't for this scene and Shirou wouldn't have gotten over his survivor's guilt (which he has as Archer as Extra confirms it) if he hadn't gone to the basement as well. It has nothing to do with feelings, it has to do with a scene that changed both characters. Remove it and both of them are doomed.

This is what is missing.
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>>156332261
Yes. My personal headcanon is that EMIYA never saw his EMIYA and only by Shirou seeing his EMIYA did the timeline split into FSN.
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>>156332206
>38th
I just feel sorry for you.
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>>156332206
>38th
>Illya
what are you doing
what is your team?
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>>156332353
They made a good laughing pair,along with Gil and Ozzy
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>>156332206
Alright this is so fucking stupid

>>156332501
Gilgamesh/Chevalier/Lantoria & Support/Mashu/Ilya
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>>156330843
Grinding 10ap is really monotonous without him.
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Mozart's mask is really cool
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>>156332594
Use single target NP characters for starters.
Change Mashu to the front lines, as her NP won't matter.
Put all your harder hitters in the back, while up front have survivors try to whittle down the first 2-3 lives.
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>>156332594
What support?
You have bride CE on every servant right? The only one you can forgo it for is mashu.
what other servants do you have at a decent level?
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>>156332191
I'm working on my 18th clear. We still got 8 days left which is about 11 clears with just natural ap regen.
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>>156332516
>>156332278
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>>156332741
At least they are having fun.
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>>156332365
>She chose to not KILL Shirou
And by not killing Shirou, she choose to give up on her dream and accept herself and her feelings. In TD13, she decides to sacrifice Shirou for her dream, because their relationship was less developed. In this scene their bond finally manifests. That scene was missing in the EMIYA route, so their love never came to fruition, and he "didn't save her heart".
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>>156332738
I just have the bride CE on Ilya

Servant lvl Lantoria 70, Gil 80, Ilya 90, Mashu 60, Chevalier 60

How long do you guys even manage to get all those 5 bride CEs
>>
>tfw you don't remember this basement scene in stay night

I should re-read it, it's been a long fucking time.
>>
What's the best place to farm bronze medals?
>>
>>156332970
10AP
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>>156332904
Farm medals until you buy all the CE's in shop, put them on however many servants you can while still reliably being able to complete quests, do the last 40ap quest until you have multiples. Since you managed to make it to the last life with only a single one, a second put on giggles would probably win you the fight, a third on arturia would definitely win you the fight.
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>>156332912
Oh wait, its the scene with the drained kids beneath the church.
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>>156333003
wut 10AP a shit
>>
>>156333295
It's quick and drops nothing but bronze
I see no problem. Don't you have a team of all Caligula event CEs?
>>
>>156333295
By far the best. You might get some unlucky results though.
>>156333392
Wrong, the current 10AP drops silver medals as well.
>>
Why the fuck did they make these ticket quests so HARD? I've been playing for 7 months and I still can't beat them.
>>
>>156333423
I haven't seen any. Just bronzes, 8x by 5.
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>>156331808
>Mother of Hero gets a stacking damage buff for allies you kill
>it's another 40-enemy wave
>>
>>156333426
They did it just so you would ask this.
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>>156333494
I've been getting silvers and pedals so I threw in some Romulus and Nero+Liz CEs to fill in the gaps.
>>
>>156333426
git gud
No, really. You should have plenty of options to clear each quest.
>>
>>156333426
I've been playing for one month with e- luck for servants and I beat all four with the only time I needed to get lucky being the dodgespammers.
>>
>>156333426
Yeah it isn't worth to to beat.
I really don't get why they put them in instead of an actual event with some story.
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>Tristans third skill clears dodge
Huh
I wish I knew that earlier
>>
So, if the game doesn't work on roote devices or emulators, how are you supposed to play this game?
>>
>>156333892
On unrooted smartphones, I presume.
>>
>>156333892
You are not supposed to play.
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>>156333426
>game is too easy
>"hurr durr this game is retarded, even a child could beat it"
>game is challenging for once
>"waah, waah, mama, please wipe my ass"

Please keep at it, DW. I wanna see this level of difficulty being in like every single Babylon quest.
>>
>>156333426
I started just when fate zero event ended and I beat them all.
>>
>>156333757
As if you can read Japanese.
>>
>>156334225
I can't, but there's only a single cutscene this whole event.
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>>156333426
What >>156333550 and >>156334052 said. Last time it was like this was when they revamped the Daily quests. People wouldn't stop crying about Marie.

>>156334289
>needing more text to scroll through when this event's story is literally just Nero inviting everyone to rumble
>>
This is the death of /fgog/.
>>
>>156333426
These are just 90 level quests.
Are you gonna kill yourself when 91-100 level quests come out?
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>>156334289
The original event didn't have that many cutscenes either.
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>>156334349
You mean eff gawg
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>>156333426
I've been playing since May and I'm beating the quests. Just get good
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>>156333426
This.
I've been playing since Nobu and Sumanai's quest is the only quest so far I didn't use CS for.
>>
Anyone beaten Siegfried with silvers and bronzes yet? Seems like that might just be impossible.
>>
>>156334651
https://twitter.com/fgo13561358/status/782565959441616896
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>>156334373
My wife can't be this cute!
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>>156334651
Use Manjew to shave 20k.
And LuBu to shove another 20k.

You can use double Euryale equipped with Cover Fire/Volumen/First Dancer/Land of Shadow to stun lock and shave Sumanai's HP little by little.
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>>156334651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3bzZKqiL0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7oaNehspA0
>>
>day one player
>got caught unprepared by Herc and haven't attempted any ticket quests since
>just farming mats
Once I have all the damage CEs it will be a breeze right
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>>156330843
For heracles, its gotta be Jeanne Alter.
For the celtic party, its Nero and Saber.
For the assassin party, its Irisviel.

And finally for Siegshit, Euryale.

Get charmed le shitty excuse for a dragon.
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>>156335196
Yeah I was struggling without them even with a pretty prepared team

All it took was one damage CE to keep up with Herc
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Should I level Irisviel for the Hassan fight? She's still at lv50 or so since the Accel Zero event
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>>156334910
Does Manjew's NP trigger if he revives? I tried it with a revive CE before, and it did 0.
>>
45 minutes until next wave of tears
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Friend with Lvl100 NP3 Kintoki
40k dmg
Thanks whaler
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>>156335689
>not leveling all your servants
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>>156335689
Yes? She's great.
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>>156335689
She's actually pretty useful for this battle since it's a war of attrition and you need as many heals and revives as you can get. Iri is perfect for it.
>>
If it's Tamamo I guess she'll get DP'd by two rider Kintokis.
>>
>>156334910
>You can use double Euryale equipped with Cover Fire/Volumen/First Dancer/Land of Shadow to stun lock and shave Sumanai's HP little by little.
Did you forget Glassful Sweet Time?
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>>156335689
It depends. I used her as my last servant, since my starters were Helena, Medea and Andersen. Her healing is helpful, though.
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>>156335689
I did it with my only casters being 30-50.

Grab a support Da vinci, throw in a Medea, and then throw in servants with ways to keep them both alive.
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>>156334910
>Angry Manjew
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you'd be able to roll a 5* before you roll Manjew.
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>>156335689
>tfw accidently burned a copy of one of my Iri's

She'll forever be NP4 and it bugs me.
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>>156336054
Hey, some people have him.
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>>156336051
At what level should Medea be?
>>156335893
I had to level other servants
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Looks like the 30AP is the best place to farm silver and bronze.
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>>156336085
I did the same thing with Nobu. I die inside a little every time i see that NP 4.
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>>156336272
which of the 30AP?
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>>156336308
the only one
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>>156336054
I'm one of the people who don't even though I used 300k FP on FZ Event.

But I already finished Sumanai.
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>>156336262
Mine was 50, my highest level caster.

At that level she would one shot the first hassan which was a bit of a hassle but doing ~50-60k damage very reliably made finishing the instadeath hassans off very easy. She also was doing a respectable amount of damage with her normal attacks.
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>>156336420
was meant for
>>156336156
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