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Ying Orclust Edition

>Previous Thread: >>156200720

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>/palg/ ID List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X6NNDQLSytCCoExPCtt48Bq9_Sv_Ha4qZkOeHS1DcS8/edit#gid=485142380
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xst for king
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fugging hell
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>>156267084
nth for TIME'S
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>>156267268
i am so scared everytime i hear that phrase i am like "HOLY SHIT USE ALL ESCAPES AVALIABLE FUCK EVERYONE FUCK MY TEAM FUCK MY EXISTENCE JUST GET AWAY GOD PLEASE"
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>>156267181
That webm is somewhat misleading because while hitboxes are wide, they aren't very tall and are accurate to character heights. Grover just throws trucks at people.
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STOP TRYING TO MAIN TANK AS RUCKUS REEEEEEEE
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>>156267268
TICKING
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>>156267537
The game was better back then
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>get bored of overwatch few weeks ago
>decide to try this
not exactly sure what the fuck is going on but that was pretty fun
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I think I burned out on this game. I have been playing it exclusively. Hope they add new content soon or at least some better champions.
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How do you feel about this?
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?13719-LGBT-Characters
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>>156267706
plot twist: bot matches until level 5
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>>156267706
You are fighting bots. Wait till level 5 comes around.
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they copied overwatch so well that it's shit in the same way overwatch is

only fighting stacks as a solo and autolosing no matter what you do when you're plagued with legally retarded teammates that can't get a single assist or kill in 10 minutes
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>>156267706
You're playing against bots even though the queue tells you you're playing against other people.

This reaction
>not exactly sure what the fuck is going on but that was pretty fun
is exactly what the kikes want from you.
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>>156267706
Wow, you should go E-sport pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you Stream? What's your twitch?
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>>156267807
>>156267831
not entirely sure why that's relevant

>>156267845
>implying I'll spend money on f2p game

>>156267918
Hello? Are you okay?
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>>156267625
I kinda miss some of the older stuff but I really enjoy current patch.
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>>156267795
yeah give kinessa a dick
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>>156267956
Seriously bro, look at your stats! You could be A_Seagull of Paladins!
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>>156267706
post scoreboard instead of rewards page in future friend.
Only plebs post rewards page
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>>156268047
Well alright then I guess this is another general to mark down on the "filled with upset autists for no reason" list
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Been doing some research. Out of 10 games, this is what I've found so far. Pick rates on NA Servers
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>>156268138
>r no reason

It's a F2P game
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>>156267706
>DEFEAT
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>>156268138
>an autist is shitposting
>"I guess than everyone in this thread is a shitposter!!

Nice logic
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Skye's ult is so ridiculously frustratingly overpowered
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>>156268183
poor buck
same on EU
No one picks buck
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>>156268183

Also, Viktor players 80% of the time isntalock if they are on my team, with Kinessa players in a close second with 65-70%
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>>156268183
>>156268250
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>>156268183
>>156268250
I think Buck has a higher skill threshold than Evie and Skye. He's fun as fuck but I notice that I do a lot better as them than him.
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>>156268235
every reply I've gotten has signified that the average poster here is rather stupid
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>>156268298
I'm EU, i see one Kinessa player for every 5 matches.

There are 100% Yings always.

Almost no Frontliners except Barik.
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>>156268316
>feels buck, man
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>>156268250
What? I've seen like 1.5 Bucks per game for the last 2 days. In EU servers that is.
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>>156268437
The problem with Buck is that he's good on the payload map. On siege other flankers have better suited kit for the same job done.

I mean, people don't realise that there are differences even within class roles. Not all flankers are good for every gamemode.
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>>156268457
at least I'm not as stupid as someone who loses to bots
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>>156268457
desu 4 of 7 replies to you were mine fyi
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bomb king codes?
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>>156268209
When I try new build against bot, the human player I am with are often retard, like in one game every time the payload spammed, my team just stayed on the point and didn't try to push it.
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>>156268457
It's a F2P game
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>>156268457
>oh no people didn't suck my cock and kiss my ass
>better cry me a river and act like a crybaby

bye, you won't be missed
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>Servers shit themselves
>I get stuck with a deserter penalty

Sasuga Hi-rez

>>156268575
I see.
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>>156267795
>This game doesn't exist to be "progressive" it simply exists to be a potential e-sport.
I think I would prefer trannies and the mentally ill rather than espurt faggotry
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I'm bored so I'm gonna pick Kinessa in every match
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>>156269045
STOP
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why does it show in the char section "next reward 500 gold"?
does it change beyond a certain level?
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>>156268247
>time bomb for a stealth character
>Isn't a sneaky plant Ult with longer timer
>can't diffuse it
>no amazing moment when the team hears skye's ult and panic search everywhere for it
>can't remove it like a deployable, especially if skye just dumps her stupid fart bomb right in front of you
>Viktor can't punt kick her fartbomb into enemy team
>is a better bomb than Bomb King whole character
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>>156269186
Forgot
>Zero damage falloff
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Can you guys look at games older than the last 8 in your match history?
It bugs out for me.
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>>156268575
>>156268437
My experience playing buck has been pretty positive. He's a great flanker and can work well on both modes; the issue is his damage is really poor so you can't pick him if you're already playing with a comp that's a little lighter in the damage dealing department. If you take advantage of his leap and regen efficiently he becomes a very, very annoying thorn for the enemy squishies that they can't quite deal with since he never picks fair fights.
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>>156268316
>first time playing Buck
>jump on enemy Kinessa
>he shouts "Bend over!"
>start giggling like twelve years old
>almost died to her 1 on 1
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>>156269045
You sound like fun, I should join you as a healer Pip or a frontline Cassie.
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>buck's ultimate train horn

why did they put this absolutely fantastic design choice to the least played character

hearing that train horn elevates me to new highs
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>want to play my favourite champ
>always feel guilty about it because im not leveling other champs
>still feel guilty because i have to play kinessa and andy-boy and im shit at them

hlep
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>>156269557
no one cares about comp, neither should you
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>>156267956
>tries to sport his stats
>doesn't realise he's fighting bots
>calls everyone upset autists
should've just deleted the post fampai
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>>156269550
his ult is garbage though

now if it reset his skills, refilled his ammo immediately + gave one super fast reload (essentially 12 shells) and gave him the ability fire very fast with a double damage boost then it might be a pretty good Ult
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>>156269186
>nerf barrik ult
>nerf ghronk ult
>rework buck grover and ying ult
>nothing op about a stealth character having an 3000 dmg aoe with a 2 sec timer
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>>156269186
I don't even give a shit that it's dumb conceptually, the issue is that it's really fucking hard to avoid. If you hear "time is ticking" than chances are you are dead even if you try to avoid it
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Picks from my last 8 games, EU.
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>>156269887
his ult is garbage but that train horn sound tho
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>>156268183
>>156268250
I see Buck a fair amount on EU servers. I also just realised I've not seen makoa all day.
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>>156269898
Is this even legit that i duel this bitch and almost always l lose, but if i win she just goes into stealth and literally dissappear and when i forget about her she appears behind me, says "nothing personal, kid" and fucking kills me. The ult is another story, and it is even worse, fucking hate this bitch.
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>>156269887
His ult could be better but it's still usable. The CD reset and reload are really nice if someone else joins a fight you're in and you have to deal with two people, and the double damage you get makes your shots pretty damn strong.

The issue I have is how short the ultimate lasts. Since all you're getting after the initial refresh is double damage, it only lasting 6s feels like it gives you the ability to kill just one person, maybe two. I'd like if it was extended by a duration per kill earned. Might make it a more attractive button to press.
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i'm getting mixed signals here
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>>156269980
hide behind the payload. The thing about Skye's ult is that she really shouldn't be able to get into range for it, even in stealth, she'll be revealed before she places it if she's popping it in the middle of your group. I can see it being justfied for a range or time nerf, but one or the other, it's a hard thing to balance as if it's too much one way it's either OP or UP, there's not a lot of inbetween.
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>>156270343
Usually I end up popping it just to deal with barik, as his shotgun is basically the same, and he has a shield and turret to help him, it sucks being only able to get a single target with it, but its good enough if your team needs to push.
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>>156270025
Sometimes i have a feeling that nobody except me picks Fernando.
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>>156270341
She has the second lowest dps of all the flankers, shit for range, an item that counters her whole shtick and zero vertical mobility. If you're losing to her you're just bad.
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>>156270707
Fernando is the most common tank pick.
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I need a DPS to shit on Evies

I can do it on Cassie until they buy Haven III, then I'm unlikely to win any trades because I hit 470, she twoshots me, and I'm usually not allowed to buy Blast Armor because I still have to worry about the other 4/5 of Evie's team.

Do I still use Cassie anyways?
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>>156270757
Guess it's true.
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>>156270494
Change it back to 5k damage, but make it deal 1k dmg/s to anyone inside the radius but not when they get outside of the radius.

There, fixed her ult.
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>>156270707
too many shitter ruckus pickers. They need to take away the joystick hud so they don't keep thinking he plays like D.Va, every Ruckus I see tries to play like a flanker, not realising his ally shield only works near objectives.
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This game is racist!
No black champions! "Black lives matter!"
No asians!
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Post wifus
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>>156270839
no, you just made it shit. She deserves a fair chance at getting kills with it. Unless the team she's facing is retarded that will at most get 2k damage. 3k damage is fine, it needs a light tweak on range so those with movement abilities can still get away from it in time.
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>>156271136
>No black champions
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>>156270707
>don't want to be the tank that gets blamed for everything
>this anon joins
>can pick flanker and blame tank for everything now
Thanks, anon
reports you for not being on the point for that 10 second period where you had no health in a 12 minute game
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>>156269154
It's 1000 gold per level after Level 20 or so.
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>>156271136
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>>156270676
I used to hate Bucks like you. Then I got really good at dancing in and out of my shield, running in circles and keeping it between us. If isn't 2v1 you can pretty much get them to waste their ult.
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>>156270757
>second lowest dps of all flankers
thats only true if you assume ever shot hits always, evies slowass projectiles can miss quite often, and buck also exist. while skye has an easy ass hitscan weapon and skills to counteract the falloff
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>>156270826
Do Evies even commonly buy Haven III? Most of the time they're more concerned with green or red cards, cassie should be fine.
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>>156271136
>white
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>>156271218
>I just want my triple kill button.

Kys you shitter.
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>>156271317
lol wtf are you talking about? Reading comprehension dude...
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>>156271451
better than reactionary faggots like you who still have problems with skye. Enjoy wood league.
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>>156271136
>>156271274
>>156271349
I want a heavily sexualized super-Black African tribal amazon champion with a big ass
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>>156271334
since the removal of block+blink, i do buy haven with evie (not on priority tho), its a good value in most matchup on every character
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>>156271334
they do when i'm playing cassie
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>>156271584
it's the next champion

it will be tia dalma actually with skills like Voodoo doll projection and snakes and shit
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>>156271319
> skills to counter falloff
No? And you have to assume Evie lands her 2 shots because after that shes just gone more often than not, while Buck has effectively 4k hp to chew through and Andy can 3 shot anyone worthwhile at much further range than Skye, with better mobility, a damage null move, and the ability to go full shotgun on tanks for even dumber (like 3400) dps without ever needing to reload. Skye is a shitty flanker
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>>156268183
DAMN, THAT SAMPLE SIZE BRO. 10 FUCKIGN GAMES, GEEEEEZZ SURE GOT THE COMMUNITY FIGURED OUT
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Today I saw someone use the post game chat.
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>>156271691
Maldune/Mal damba better be a female character.
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>pick kinessa
>bomb king and androxus do nothing but focus exclusively on me
>androxus ulted several times just to get me
>even some of the other enemies abandon the objective and go after me
>wonder why the fuck we still havent won
>game ends
>have more eliminations than my team combined

i wasnt even carrying
its not fun getting focused
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>>156271792
>Tia Dalma
>Mal Damba

see the connection?
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>>156271790
salt
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>>156271580
Same to you when they nerf your "I win" button.
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>>156271301
my drogoz is 9 and the next reward is 1000 gold
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>>156271876
Now the next question would be:

Is she going to be hot/cute?
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>>156271790
>special snowflake name with non english character
>salty as fuck in a casual game
lmao
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>>156271826
>kinessa picker
>not even carryning

well duh
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>>156271284
Idk what are you talking about. I never get flamed and try to always play on team. But sometimes there is moments when ew need to capture point and my team goes fucking deathmatch and then blames me for not coming with them, but its a pretty good feeling, when you do the right thing and everyone blames you for it.
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What's the max gold limit?
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>>156271745

I'm going to have a bigger sample size obviously. Just haven't played enough games yet. I'm looking to get down 100 games, and progressively make charts to see if there's any changes over time.
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Why is everyone in this threads so hostile?
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>>156272640
shut the up
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>>156272640
enjoying your first week?
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>>156272640
Because no matter what we do, Ying will never be real.
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>>156272718
you delete this right fucking now
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Someone give me good defensive fernando deck.
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Dibs on Mal Damba waifu.
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>it's a another super passive team episode
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>>156272872
bowling ball IV
healing station IV
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>>156272924
We don't even know if Mal Damba is female.
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>>156273192
see >>156271691
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when are we getting a bubble helmet astonaut monkey hero with an alien ray gun?
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alright guys

What skins do you want?

>Archmage Evie
>Black Cat Ying (breaking a mirror is 7 years of bad luck)
>Succubus Skye
>Kawaii Androxus
>Paladins: Champions of the Realm Fernando
>Blood Eagle Viktor
>Dark Elf Cassie
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I have a feeling I'm the only 'useful' Kinessa player I see lately

I play close to the objective and to my team but not too close to reduce flanks and I spam mines everywhere with the card that gives me 6 mines. Most of my elims are assists but I still output a decent amount of damage, sometimes topping the team. I choose wrecker to nuke shields faster.

Why can't other kinessas be at least half 'useful'
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>>156273646
Revenant Drogoz
Replaces all of his voicelines with incoherent screaming
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>>156273646
Pool party Nando
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>>156273646
>Dark Elf Cassie
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>>156273646
Elf slave Ying
Rape orc Grohk
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Does Ripper work for Grok? Is it a good idea to build damage on him? If so, what build should I use?
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>>156274061
>not orc slave grohk and rape elf ying
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>>156273646
Squeeky ball king, incoherent squeek vo.

Teddy bear king, complete with cutsey "just want a hug" ult

Suicide bomb king, big middle eastern man with a vest speaking arabic and shouting the obligitory allahu akbar
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>>156273646
>Evil Ying aka Yang
>Jumpman Buck
>Angelic Androxus
>Female Hobbit Pip
>Fire Elemental Bomb King
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>>156273646
Old west theme Bomb King, where all his bombs are bundles of dynamite.
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>That feel when getting addicted
Fuck man Ive got other shit to do
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>>156275047
You'll get over it in a week, unless they patch I guess.
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>playing tank on the point
>dragoz ults heading towards me
>run behind teamate and let them eat it
>ask them why they didnt dodge it like me when they complain
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>>156275047
it takes less than 10 days to get sick of the game

but then you play burger king and extend your enjoyment
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>>156275164
Drogoz ults aren't even any fun anymore with fucking ying around. She just conjures a shitty illusion at point blank range to you and then you get fucked.
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>>156275147
>>156275321
took me 10 days as well

it's not stopping me from shitposting here though so there's something at least
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>>156268437
Ult doesn't reload ammo and doesn't let him stack heals.
Only does single target damage really with no teamfight ult.
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>kinessa picker on team

oh yeah I was having too much fun winning 2 matches in a row and now I am being punished
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>People still complaining about Skye
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Ying's ultimate is pretty good for the shatter build.
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>>156275847
yeah this team is fucking awful, no frontliner either
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>>156275321
I played TF2 for 1000 hours and still have urges to go back and play, so I think I'm good.
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>>156270494
>The thing about Skye's ult is that she really shouldn't be able to get into range for it
Do you even play the game?
The main problem is both how maps are designed and the game mode itself.
OW can get away with these kind of ults because capping isn't as fast (the points are also larger) and there's generally more to do around instead of just trying to push the payload (map "verticality" if you will).
In this game it's another story altogether.
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>>156276236
well aren't you special
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>it's a "your team has two tanks but only one actually tanks and tries to cap" episode

J U S T
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Good build for Drogoz? He's fun but you need to git gud with him to kill someone
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>>156275773
Also a REALLY shitty duelist.
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>>156276486
I think I got cancer looking at this ruckus' objective time
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>>156276486
>5 objective time

really makes you think
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>>156276486
Ruckus doesn't need to focus on the objective as much when there's another tank with high survivability. When he's the only frontliner it's a real pain in the ass to try and survive on the objective as Ruckus.
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>>156276579
thrill of the hunt is really good, i usually set it to level 3 though
also get the upgrade that makes his spit travel 50% faster but not anything more than that
and get the reload speed upgrade

if you like wrecking tanks then get every single cooldown reduction and shield buster upgrade and not a single shield can withstand your barrage
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>>156276668
Decimate 2, hot swap 4, masterful 4, lung capacity 1, rain of fire 1

You could make a second build around being airborne, but the chance of no hitscan enemies is really small
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>>156276725
Makes me think that he accidentally got too close, saw he was helping his team and able to use his Q, then ran strictly away to intentionally be a detriment to the team.
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all glacier maps are made of shit and gay
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>>156276923
You don't spec for wombo resets? So much damage lost.
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>>156276753
>When he's the only frontliner it's a real pain in the ass to try and survive on the objective as Ruckus
But he has another frontliner. One that could use him standing on the point shredding the other nando too.
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I STILL can't find a comp match

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee
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>>156277265
what do you mean
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Dear Ying pickers, stop picking Ying. Let me pick Ying. I haven't lost with Ying in like 20 games. Let me carry your stupid asses.
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>>156277801
cucked in the drafts by his own team, poor fellow.
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What k:d ratio is good to you? I find 3:1 not really difficult to achieve in this game, then I would say that 4:1 or 5:1 above would be good.
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>tfw you win the founder pack in a giveaway
Today was a good day
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>>156277959

Depends on your role. Some classes aren't really suited for getting "slays" rather than "eliminations".
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>>156277335
no shit sherlock
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>>156276753
>>156277335
Yeah, I was 1v2ing the enemy Nando and Ying all match except when one of their Flankers joined in to kick my ass while apparently the Ruckus was Flanker-hunting.

That's the second time that's happened today.
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>>156277959
you haven't reached profile level 5 did you
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>>156278036
are "slays" the equivalent of "solo kills"?
what about support classes? I usually get 3:1 k:d ratio.
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>it's another Grover focuses on trying to be an axe sniper instead of proper healer and trying to stay near teammates episode
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>>156277621
get good
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How the fuck I'm supposed to defeat fucking Skye?
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>>156278339
I'm level 19. Are you going to tell me that your standard is 20:1?
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>>156278484
Offer her a dicking
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>>156278484
offer her a ride
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>>156277959
it's tied to your team vs the enemy team, so it literally doesn't matter.

If you play against toddlers all game and have a 40:1 KDA then who cares. The only real indicator of skill is objective time
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>>156277887

anon pls
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>>156278615
it's not a faitfhful indicator. Some damage dealers and flankers could do a great job even though their objective time is low.
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>kinessa picker
>sniper wannabe grover
>kinessa picker

the suffering is not going to end
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>>156278707
shut the FUCK up and get on the point, you nigger
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>>156278615
>flanker
>cuck damage and backline
>dismount enemies at spawn
>tankshitter thinking the only indicator of skill is muh objective time
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> casual match between human players
> support slot is missing
> random stranger picks Pip
how does this make you feel? do certain people like doing this on purpose?
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>>156278986
You can heal normally with pip if your team sticks together.
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>>156277621
Masterful 4 lets you do back to back fireball combos, though unlike Vic you only get 1 free before it goes on CD. Still easily his best card.
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>>156278986
"Well, at least it's not Kinessa"
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>>156278826
At most you'd want 2 players, no more, on that role.
Winning requires you to cap and/or push or defend the objective. Your team needs to focus on that as much as possible.
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>>156278986
>guess I gotta watch my shit a bit more
>proceed to win
ez
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>>156278986
l2meme arrow
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>>156278349
eliminations = 'you contributed damage to killing an enemy'
slays = 'final blows'
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Why do people not go for the point? They just stay back shoot from a distance.
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>>156279621
because retards
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>>156279621
because there is a nigger on point?
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Played during the beta, stopped for a while. Coming back into it now, what's the meta?
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>>156279621
Fear. Cowardice. Squishiness.

I think mostly people just don't want to die though. It's a bummer but you gotta be bold to win games, and yeah, that shit aint safe.
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>>156279762
it's still a beta
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>>156279621
Because you have no tanks into a deathtrap front line. Makoa+ Barik is slaughter for whatever damage gets hooked.
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>leave clone on payload while pushing it to enemy base
>all enemy respawn and immediately start chasing me
>about to die
>teleport to clone next to payload
>win

I found my character.
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>>156279762
Staying on the point. Don't let the little kids tell you its getting a high k/d ratio
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>>156278815
Payload time yeah point time no.
You actually need to stop their offense by shooting them off their horses, delay folks or flanking them.

Even for payload escort you hang around for a bit to see if it's safe then you roam.
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>>156279837
Well, meant before steam release. My bad.
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>>156279870
She's fun.
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>>156279909
It varies based on role of course.
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>>156279762
picking aggression into 3 frontliners in the enemy team
nobody knows what the fuck they are doing and game changes every week
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>>156279403
winning also requires denying the enemy pushing and/or defending the objective. A tank sitting on the objective won't accomplish that by himself. every role is important, there are many indicators of skill, not just objective time.
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>>156278986
pip is the makoa of supports
if i'm the tank, I dodge
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>>156279887
Kinessa is obviously the best in the game and you should pick her to show everyone your headshotting skills to rack up that K/D and never touch the point ever.
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>>156279762
>meta
>>>/lolg/
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I'm on a Grohk binge. He's so mindless and easy to play. He also has one of the best escapes in the game. You can build him tanky or give him damage and he'll do really well. I can seriously 1 on 1 any flank character with him too.
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>>156279621
Because people are too scared of dying. They play to not lose instead of playing to win. Blame League and other MOBAs for conditioning people like this.
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>>156278480
is propel really that great?
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>>156280608
idk about other assfaggots but years of being dotard taught me that you can't achieve victory while sitting your ass off
if only i applied that knowledge to real life
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>>156281176
It lets you sanic around the map like nothing else, try it out
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>>156278986
pip is the best choice in casual because he's the most fun healer
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TIPS AND TRICKS - OFFENSE TIER

-Choosing Wrecker on the red upgrade makes you pierce through enemy Shields much faster.
-Choosing Bulldozer on the red upgrade list makes you much better at taking out deployed tools such as illusions, sentries, mines and bombs.
-Either of these can be picked by a Support or Flanker to make them better at cleaning up a point.
-Analyze what your team's biggest threats are and choose accordingly. You won't be able to take both, and picking either will lock you out of Reload speed, which may be better based on your champion.
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>Kinessa buys Wrecker

i'm not sure if I dislike this or Aggression more
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>>156281539
why do you mention fucking bulldozer and not the cauterize
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>>156281539
Real tip: Always buy aggression. It's the best all around.
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>>156276325
right, except that has nothing to do about her stealth not working in close range to enemies, if you're getting wiped by skye ulti, it's because you and your dumbass team ignored her whilst she placed it.
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>>156281642
>Kinessa

i'm not sure if I dislike this or getting kicked in the testicles more
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>>156281691
Because now that Ying is back, Bulldozer actually has a significant use now.
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>>156281539
Wrecker on Skye is like seeing chocolate melt with Fernando's shield being the chocolate
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>>156271985
Nigga I had 18 hours on pre nerf D.Va, no matter how much they nerf it I'll be fucking golden with that shit, you'll still be crying as long as its in the game.
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>>156281642
If it was me, then it was because I saw the Barik + Fuckus combo and thought it would help.

>tfw you turn out to be a Kinesshitter
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>>156280608
They have no frontline you slut.
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>>156281840
why the fuck are you worrying about his shield as skye? Go hidden and nothin personell him from behind.
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>>156281703
>placed it
This is a joke right?

>hide behind a pillar or other obstacle
>watch enemy team move into a rather tight but not too tight corridor as they push the payload
>move closer, stealth, rush in, drop domb, maybe die, wipe the team, gain time and you're back likely before they are even you even died
It's only slightly difficult to use while you're pushing, but if you're defending getting 3+ kills every time is the easiest thing in this game.

Please tell me you're actually flanking.
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Updated chart of Pick rates in NA + extra info
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>Not really used to playing flankers, I'm used to Frontline and Support the only one I one I have played outside of bots is Buck
>Try out Skye for the first time
>Taimanin Asagi happens
I just wanted to peg people
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I haven't played in a few months - before I stopped, the game was getting noticeably worse with each patch.

There are certainly a lot more people talking about it now. Has HiRez turned things around?
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>>156282461

>Frog Isle

Theres your problem

>>156282569

Its much different than in closed beta, its pretty good.
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>>156282569
Most of us started 2 weeks ago. Its pretty good now though.
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>>156281840
>wrecker on skye

the ONLY, literally just one, JUST ONE FUCKING TIME when you should ever get wrecker Skye if there is some super sniper Ruckus on the enemy team and you need to deal with him a lot

and that happens in like 1/80 Skye matches
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>>156280551
\Wow, the BK Meme pick is still going strong. WTF are the BK doing to not counter the Barik/Nando combo?
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>>156282123
>placed it
are you retarded? Yes, that's what skye does when you press your ultimate bind.

Yes I flank, but not every position in the game works like the one you cherrypicked. Sure, you can go to the effort you described, but nine times out of ten a skye can just run in to the enemy from behind, drop it like it's hot, then smokebomb outta there. If you pay attention it's piss easy to notice and get to the other side of the payload, or spot the revealed skye, but everyone just runs in a random direction, dies, then shitposts "WOW SKYE SO OP"
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>match ending up 3-3 though you have won the middle objective every time until that moment
>lose it once and lose the whole match

this is why siege is so fucking gay
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>>156281539
you forgot
-If the enemy team has two or more healers, consider Cauterize. Dedicating to Cauterize will reduce healing by 90% at rank 3, and should be heavily considered by any hero with area skills.
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>>156282936
Its not king of the hill faggot, you have to actually score a delivery as well
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they should just remove the aggression and haven altogether

its like watching a cat and mouse chase except the cat is the same size as the mouse
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>>156283046
>actually defending the scoring system of siege
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>>156279621
post build
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>>156282450
this should only be done for competitive so we can really see meme picks
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>>156282569
Coming from someone that has played since the start of the beta. I can say that if you liked the old Paladins you will not like it right now.
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>>156282073
I do. I simply tried out the upgrade because there was an instance where no one got wrecker on my team against a team of frontliners. It worked out really well.
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>>156282654
>>156282656

Well, let's say there are two warring styles in the game - MOBA vs. FPS.
Which style would is winning?

Have they moved more towards weapons and abilities that reward player skill, or low TTK, one-hit-KO, auto-aim a la Overwatch?
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>>156283138
You should ve able to win on defense, but otherwise its fine.
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>>156283538

Its definitely more player skill oriented for some champions. Grover is fucking mindless, but Androxis can be a good challenge.
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>>156283138
How would you have the scoring system? I'm thinking it'd be nice to see a first to three points, with capturing the point being one point pushing the payload being two points and defending the payload being one point. With how they are, it just takes way too long to finish a game in my opinion.
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TIPS AND TRICKS - DEFENSE TIER

-Choosing Veteran in the green row will make you heal up extremely fast if you go a few seconds without firing or taking damage. Certain skills like Fernando's Shield won't trigger the self-healing cooldown, allowing Veteran to suddenly bring you back to full health without having to fully retreat. Use this upgrade if you don't expect to be healed much. Also useful for flankers with a strong escape.
-Choosing Life Rip is invaluable if you plan to be doing the direct opposite of taking cover. While not a substitute for retreating, this allows you to stand your ground for longer, and can sometimes give you an edge in a head-on firefight. For example, Ruckus' bullets are usually bound to hit something, and this can add up to a lot of additional healing.
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>>156283538
Its nothing like a moba, but theres no death you can't avoid either.
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>enemy barik is level 20
>over 100k shielding and damage
>be drogoz so it doesn't matter
BEHOLD
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>in lobby
>1 flank and 2 damage
>pick makoa even if I want to play drogoz
>someone pick ying
>maybe I can win this
>less than 2k heal
>he says "sorry lag xD"

I want to kill someone
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>buy drogoz purple skin
>it along with the weapon went rare and now cost 250 gems
>i will never be able to complete the set

fuck

at least i got the skin
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>person instalocks Ying, Kinessa, or Androxus
>"we need a [class no one picked]"
>they don't change their pick even though they are conscious of the weak team comp

Why do people do this?
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>>156283758
ruckus's interaction with liferip is weird, I feel like it has a 1s cooldown or something.

either way he's better off with veteran.
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>>156284541
> never

Just log in 5 weeks straight
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>>156284841
i want to get the cassie vampire hunter skin though
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>kinessa player drops his twitch stream after a game
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>tfw it's that kind of game there both yours and enemy team are really working together and playing well
>tfw than you are fernando and you are trying hard, bullying barik out of the point, denying heals with you fireball, using shield at the last moment so enemies overextend trying to kill you and countering every skye ult with yours
>tfw it doesn't matter because you have kinessa shitter in your team and you are playing 4vs5
he picked aggression too
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>>156286702
nothin personnel kid
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>>156284773
people actually talk during champ select? wut?
>>
When will Kinessa players stop playing?
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>queue with and against total retards where I have double everyone else's damage as Makoa
>next game queue with professional players

is there even matchmaking in this game
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>>156287118
obviously not
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>605 objective time
Playing Fernando with a healer glued to your ass is fantastic
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>>156287402
sounds like a long and annoying game to me
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>>156287046
probably never
even if they make decent matchmaking system it will barely help
it's like in dota there if you have pudge in your team he will be useless shitter in 4 games out of 5 at any mmr from 1k to 8k
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>>156286946
Occasionally.
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>>156286702
I feel like Kinessa can deal enough damage in a single shot that Aggression can actually be meaningful, same with Evie. Kinessa has long reload times though and will probably be better off with Deft Hands.
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Who's down to queue together? Right now.
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Time to play everyone's favorite game: Guess That Champion! Guess who got legitimately instalocked this game.
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>>156288160

Only damage, no shields or healing, even accidentally. Must be either Viktor or Memessa
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>>156288160
Skye___
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>>156288238
>>156288323
All understandable guesses, but unfortunately, you're incorrect. The answer is everyone's favorite edgelord.
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Can the other team hear emotes at the end of a game?

I like spamming woohoo, but I don't think they even hear it.
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>be drogoz
>nerdnando tries to charge me every time I get low
>just thrust out of there, leaving him cucked without a shield
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>>156289281
No, VGS and in-game chat is team-only. Although they can hear your laughs, taunts and jokes.
>>
Why are all the shitter classes in this game female? It's like they know this certain type of retard likes this certain type of play style, and the same retard they know will pick their waifu class
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>>156289413

Lame. I have great memories smack talking at the end of games in Halo 3 and Gears.
>>
I want to lick Ying's underboob
>>
I want to lick Ying's overboob
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So theres fucking no mmr for casual is there, which would be why I just got matched again a "pro" that shitstomped like aimbot viktor?
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Come play with me fampai
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>>156290134
Actually I take that back. Dude stole the pros name but changed the capitalization, so probably was a hacker
>>
>>156289940
>>156290007
I, too, want to lick Ying's underboob
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>Haven't played Drogoz in a while, might as well
>Enemy team has an Androxus and Buck
>Spend the whole time getting tag teamed
And now I remember why I quit playing him
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So how do you guys build the Edgelord?
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>>156289425
>all

meme king is one of the biggest shitter magnets in the game. Not that I can blame them, he's fun.
>>
>>156290357
was it jakeb or something

it's probably a smurf or something, assuming there's even matchmaking in this game.
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>It's an "Evie thinks she is a sniper" episode
Was ice block + blink that much of a crutch? Why is a mastery 10+ Evie too scared to actually fucking flank.
>>
>>156290784
Yeah, it was JAKEB. Seemed pretty sketch but with Vik its so hard to tell. Thanks HiRez for the no recoil bullshit
>>
Any cards/items that you wish for?
>>
PBKJ5D77B15F64E6

bomb king skin
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>>156290150
Are you still looking for a fellow shitter to play with?
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>>156265131
As an other anon I might try doing gods work too myself.

>>156280608
Are you the same anon from before?
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>>156290936
He posted his stream when I played with him. our no flanker team couldn't stop his kinessa.
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>>156289878
>>156289413
>>156289281
They can only hear your jokes/laughs/taunts, but they won't hear what you hear. The clip that plays is randomized for each person that hears it (that's why the death cam plays different lines than whatever it is you said when you died).
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>>156291118
Nope, I just like elven women.
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>>156291027
Arigato senpai.
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>>156291027
missed one again but yeah I wasn't even in-game so it was to be expected
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>>156291227
Do you know how to work well with this software?
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>>156291305
Nope, I just saved the stuff he posted.
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Everything about this game was absurd
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>>156291910
>0/14
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>>156292146
Bot
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>>156292146
the objective time is abnormally high for kinessa

it was most likely a bot for the whole game
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>>156292146

97 obj time tho, better than most kinessa
>>
>>156292232
>>156292281

Sadly it was not a bot, just a very dumb player. Their movement wasn't like a bot at all.
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>>156292232
>>156292281
>>156292457
Bots also have very certain names
Their names never have number and always resemble a word with the first letter being a capital letter
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Does this game have match making or am I gonna keep having to carry shitters in casual?
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>>156292675
it doesn't change the name when a bot takes over a player spot in game, doofus

bots just run down the middle to the objective most of the time
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>>156291910
>darksoulth1
>not playing Androxus
Buh
>>
>>156292675
If the person gets disconnected, they are taken over by a bot. The bots are dumb as shit and make retarded item purchases. They really are just there to hold on until you reconnect
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>>156292778

I know that bots can take over but I assure you it was a person playing. They wouldn't even snipe, just run into us. Probably a troll desu.
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>>156292879
so that explains why after i connect i end up in a random ass spot in front of enemies
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>>156292910
I remember the firsts weeks some guys saying on chat some shit about boicot to the game because is an Overwatch copy

Maybe some retards are still trying to do that?
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>>156293323
>hit about boicot to the game because is an Overwatch copy
>Maybe some retards are still trying to do that?

Possibly, can't see enemy chat though
>>
To the anon that recommended propel 4, man I've been missing out
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>>156292910
sounds even more like a bot, I've had bots doing that vs me and my team
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>>156293458
They said it on the lobby chat at the end of the match
and they were members of my team so it was frustating as fuck
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Is competitive any better than casual?

I swear every game is like this.
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>>156293668

queue with me so we can dominate, im >>156291910 this anon
>>
Is this game shit?
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>>156294101
Yeah
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>>156294101
Nah
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>>156293668
hi videogames
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>>156294101
very
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Boris/Ying loadouts anyone?
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>>156294101

I don't know
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>>156273646
>Succubus Skye
I need this in my life
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>>156294101
If you judge a game by the skill of it's players, yes.
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>>156291568
Well have this free skye for. Just simple testing on the software.
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>>156295178
Much appreciated
>Skye and Ying will never love you
>You'll never be good at either character
>>
>>156294101
yes
retarded hitboxes
>>
>>156295178
What software? how'd you get the models?
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>it's a "the frontline runs to fight incoming enemies instead of pushing the payload" episode
>>
>>156296049
it's actually better that the frontliner does it than anyone else, because he basically has zero risk of dying.
>>
I have 12000 gold what cards should I get for Ying?
>>
If you guys just want to see real shitters just wait until our first free gem weekend
>>
>>156296861
WHEN
>>
>>156296049
Getting run down by a Fernando is one of the most terrifying things in the game.
>>
why does net shot last 1.5s
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>>156297358
dude just walk away
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>>156296861
>free gem weekend
OH FUCK
I FORGOT HI-REZ DOES THOSE
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>>156297659
I miss the real Ethan that did not sell out
>>
What's a free gem weekend?
>>
why the fuck did hirez think we needed a sniper and an archer sniper? did they learn literally nothing from overwatch?
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>>156298257
Every so often, Hi-Rez puts on an event where you have to play/win a few games in order to earn free gems (crystals in the case of Paladins). These events are good to spike the population but are infamous for bringing out the shitters.

>>156298384
Cassie is not a dedicated sniper, though. Her bow is what amounts to a scopeless rifle, and she ultimately shines as the queen of mid-range.
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>someone on your team instalocks Kinessa
>then takes Aggression
>then spends the entire match setting up in the exact same spot and gets shit on by the enemy team's Skye in the exact same way every time

Remove Kinessa
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>>156298384
except Cassie is actually a good character
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>>156298523
Because Cassie shits out damage sooner and is more mobile than Kinessa.
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>>156295987
XPS XNAlara

The models are not mine I looked for them. The other anon posted the links on the previous thread.
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Why is Buck such a terrible character?

You can just pick sky,evie or Reaper and kill people.
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>>156298661
Even with the shotgun fix, Buck doesn't really put the fear of God in the enemy team like the other flankers. He doesn't have Evie's mobility or Skye's invisibility/damage and Androxus's, well, everything. He's got some sustain, but it's not much, and his shotgun is still not the most threatening weapon in the game.
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. . . . Hang on. Does Evie shit on Skye or what? Cause I've been playing Evie a bit now and it's looking more and more like it. You only need to hit her a couple times and if she's winning, you just go ice block because she doesn't have a strong move to hit you with when you get out.
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Will this game die like SMNC, Loadout, Dirty Bomb and other stuff?
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What are you favorite 1 vs 1 fights? I think that fighting the dragon guy using Evie is really fun. Full Aerial Fight!
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>>156299075
Evie is the only person with less health than Skye, so she makes up for it by having more get-out-of-jail-free cards than Skye. If Skye ever gets the drop on Evie, she has so many options to break away and ditch her. Evie will never fight Skye on Skye's terms.
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>>156299082

I only ever had a passing amount of time spent with Monday Night Combat (original), so I can't talk about that.

As far as Loadout and DB are concerned; Paladin's paymodel/time-to-grind blows them both out of the water.

Grinding a new merc or loadout card in Dirty Bomb gave me cancer.
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>be drogoz
>androx comes for you
wat do?
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>>156300159
take it like a bad dragon dildo
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>>156299363
>Grinding a new merc or loadout card in Dirty Bomb gave me cancer.

To be honest, just playing Skyhammer wasn't a bad idea at all. If you could aim, you didn't need anything else.
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>spend 3 minutes contesting the enemy team alone while everyone else is in the back being elite snipers
>finally die once
>they take the point and then move 3/4 up to our base because everyone is shit
>respawn
>contest payload for another 3 minutes by myself
>lose the moment I die for a second time

every fucking game
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>>156300159
Yeah all you can do is cry to your team to help you. It's like how Fernandez can't do anything about your rockets.

>>156299307
Mm makes sense. I like it.
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>>156267084
Quiero que Fernando me penetre con su lanza!!!
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>>156300613
>mfw 3/5 my team is speaking spanish to eachother
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>three (3) more weeks until I can get christmas grover
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>>156300942
Or go nuts during free crystal weekend and snag that costume. Cancer will be at maximum though so you might want to party up with somebody competent.
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I need good loadouts for Makoa and Ruckus, /palg/, can you help me out?
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>>156301354
Ruckus has a relatively decent tank build, focused on extending his Emitter and healing himself during Emitter and Repulsor Field.
>Heat Diffuser IV
>Alternator III
>Nanotechnology II
>Warden II
>Countermeasure I

Makoa has a couple options that generally revolve around improving his shield/self-healing or otherwise getting more benefits from hitting good hooks. This is one build I have sitting around that I got from someone else.
>Tidal Grace IV
>Ancient Resolve IV
>Barrier Reef II
>Spring Tide I
>Salvage I
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Rank 20 kinessa on my team, what am I in for?
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>>156290565
I think I'm getting better at BK, gotta focus on fucking them around with grumpy and poppy. The great CC couples well with the ability to quickly burst an impaired target (stunned, ruckus firing) as well as the great shield destruction. Also, fuck everyone that wants to be on MY point. Enjoy the ocean.
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Teach me Barik
I already have level 5 mastery with the other frontliners and frontliners are all I play with all the instalockers around
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>>156302264
a retard that stands in one spot the entire game and gets killed by Skye over and over
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>>156302663
get the Bowling Ball card, great stuff.
desu I would run bowling ball 4 grudge 4 plus whatever tickles your fancy. Healing station 2, turret HP 1 and barricade CD 1 would be alright I think.
Deft Hands is handy.
Chronos is a fucking must have, your CDs are your tankiness. with chronos 2, grudge 4, and barricade CD 1, I'm covered most of the time.
Life Rip is outclassed by Healing Station, grab Veteran.
Haven, unless their team is Nando, Drogoz, Evie, BK, and Skye, then maybe consider Blast Shield.
Also maybe consider CC reduction if they have any(BK) since you can laugh off his stuns and stay on the point.
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Did we die?
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>Evie: No, I'm not the shiny version, stop asking!

heh
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>>156304448
I just finished playing a drogoz match
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>>156304448
Busy playing the game, senpaitachi
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What is the best map and why is it Timber Mill?
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>>156300613
Por favor manten tus cochinadas fuera de aqui.
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>>156300159
propel IV
try to get around a corner and do fire spit to knock him back
if he can aim and has nether step up, you're dead
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Why am I always the best player on my team?
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>Enemy team has 3 front line
>Better pick Aggression!
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>notreaper shooting at me
>put clone behind him
>swap with the clone
>he thinks he's still attacking me because the clone is shooting past him to heal me

this happens way more than it should
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>enemy team has a Level 11 Ying and a Pip
>tell them to get cauterize because that Ying clearly knows what the fuck she's doing
>"Ying can't heal except for her ult"
>everyone except me and a Barik get Aggression and Deft Hands
>literally every single bit of damage we do is erased within seconds
>we get stomped
>mfw
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>>156306879
YingxAndy is my OTP. EdgyxInnocence is the best
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>>156306992
>Ying can't heal except for her ult

I totally hope more people keep this retarded meme up as I rake in the healing points
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>>156307030
I'd normally not call your out on your shit taste, but in this case edgy mc.edgy is just too shit.
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>Play Ying in Payload
>Win
>Play Ying in Siege
>Lose
Why is this
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>Team has 2 healers and 1 damage
>I better pick Kinessa!
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>it's a "no hitscan on the enemy team" episode
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>>156307350

Shes not very mobile, so in payload when pushing or defending the cart, there isn't so much going on. On siege shits everywhere and shes likely to get Androxified if she isn't TICKING first
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>>156307389
kinessa is probably a viable replacement for a flanker if one of those healers is pip

just kidding when is Kinessa ever a good pick?
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anyone wanna play? leveling up champs so I could play competitive.
IGN: MYOUItivated
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>>156307507

>Rukus
>Barik
>Ying
>Not Hitscan

I don't think you know what hitscan means
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>>156307570
She's great when you already have a Cassie. If she wasn't having both on every team wouldn't make sense.
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>>156307641

You definitely added me an hour ago and i took a break. I'll be on in a sec to play
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>>156307389
>team has 3 healers
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>friend and I go on some fuck huge winstreak when we first start
>like 40 games won, maybe 5 or 6 lost
>we've lost 8 out 10 games the last two days we've played

HELP
HELP
I WANT THE AWFUL ARTYOMS AND PIPS WITH LESS HEALING THAN MATCH LENGTH TO GO AND STAY GO
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>>156307775
>Enemy team all pick cauterize
>Your team still plays like they can just rush in

Just lose a game like that, except it was 2 healers and the front line wouldn't tank shit.
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>wondering how long its going to take for people to stop scoreboard whoring
NO ONE CARES
O

O
N
E

C
A
R
E
S
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>>156308240
>healers don't even heal
>they keep dying
>nobody stays on the objective
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Whats the point of playing Kinessa
If the enemy isnt made of shitters they will always go for you, specially asshole champs with high damage and mobility
Theres no point in sniping when you dont have mobility/defense to escape bullies
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>>156307953
>First start
You fight bots until player level 5
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>>156308243
But it's fun to laugh at terrible kinessa player #9423658347652
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>>156308551
I'm talking about after we fought bots. I know we fight them at first.
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>tfw Skye will be nerfed one day because of all the bitching and Skye mains will drown in their own tears
Can't wait for that bitch to be thrown into Kinessa status.
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>>156307646
I know what it means, I meant champions suited to counter drogoz, like vladimir, kinessa, and androxus
Propel IV best card
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>>156308243
t. shitter who can't post his scores
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>>156308617
t. terrible kinessa player #9423658347652
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>Pick Ying
>Another player picks Grover
>Eh I'll switch
>End up playing what is possibly the worst game I've seen yet
I guess I won't switch anymore. Can't even rely on others when they pick the needed roles.
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oh man why did i stop playing this champ fuck man this is so fun
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>>156309904
Honestly Grover is probably the worst healer right now.

It's kind of incredible how a good Ying shits on pretty much all the healers, though.
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>>156307775
>team has 3 healers
>none of them heal other players except grover that does it while simply running past you two times during the entire match
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>mfw frontline buys rejuvenate
Is there a better feel as a healslut? I actually feel like a slut.
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>>156310858
Its literally spam Q to win
I dont even bother using shatter unless Im facerolling. Just let the AI save your enemy for you and make sure you dont die. And shoot somebodys ass if theyre just asking for it.
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Fucking hell, edgyshit's gun is so rigged it's not even funny,
Literally just headshot someone in the knee.
Also ult is broken as fuck, but that's nothing to complain about yet.
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>>156311564
>team has 3 flankers (skie, buck and androxus)
>still manage to win
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>>156311551
>buy Rejuvenate as Fernando
>support keeps chasing enemies around and dying instead of healing
Never again. Veteran master race.
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What word is always spelled wrong?
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>>156312085
this is why I don't buy rejuvenate unless I've seen that the support actually heals and is dedicated to the objective
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>>156312364

This dick, nigga
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>>156312085
Veteran is almost universally better than rejuvenate on any of the 4K+ hp tanks. At rank 1 it's 160-200 HPS which is 25% of Ying's dedicated heal bots. The only problem is that you have to get off the point for a few seconds in order to recieve that healing but if something forced you off in the first place, an extra 100HPS from Rejuvinate usually won't save you
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>Kinessa player literally has 0 objective time on Frog Isle in Competitive

The rumors were true
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>Ohhhhh, Barik's got a guuun!~
>He's gonna SHOOT ya dooown!~
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Can Andy reflect Drogoz's ult?
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>>156270882
His Ally Shield doesnt matter because nobody is mad enough to stand next to Ruckus on point and expect any sort of protection.
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>>156313902
To my knowledge, no: Androxus cannot block Drogoz's rocket punch. The only ones who can verifiably survive a rocket punch are an ulting Fernando and an ice-blocked Evie.
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>>156269887
His ult would be pretty good if it charged his ultimate meter up to maximum. Not amazing, but pretty good.
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>>156313992
Emitter also gives shield
Only real shitters need a Fernando in front of them to understand they are protected
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>>156314081
Ghost shaman
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>>156314280
not the same
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>>156314280
Grohk's ghost walk is slightly different.
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>do your best as meme king
>still not enough
>because gay middle objective on gay glacier map with a gay dome on it so you can't really btfo enemy shitters
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>>156314323
>>156314394
You say that, but watching a dragon fly through you feels just as good
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>>156314429
You realize that it tells you which map it is pregame now, right? So you dont pick terrible characters for terrible maps, and you can only pick Barik on the maps he is actually good on?
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>try to level sniper bitch
>always get shit teammates with less than 10 eliminations

why does this keep happening and happening
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>>156314542
Every sub-map is now its own, named, standalone map instead of just Temple Isle/Enchanted Forest/Glacier Keep. This only came about this patch.
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>>156314542
I'm just picking BK and nothing else because it's the only way to have any fun in this game anymore
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oh.. just got a grover that picked aggression
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what is it with people and starting life rip
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>>156314653
it's because of you

because you are forcing them to play 4v5
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are casual match losses tracked at all?
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>>156314963
how would i level her otherwise smarty pants
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>>156273646
Spy skye (formal dress)
Sniper Cassie
Summer Fernando (no homo)
Summer Ying
Evie Cirno
One bullet man Buck
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>>156315224
You can pick four characters to not level and still get competitive mode. You don't need to level her.
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what is so goddamn complex about contesting objectives? why can't the average retard do it? do they really think it's better to not die contesting an objective than just letting the enemy have it for free? are there so many cucked 4chan jannies playing this game?
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Holy crap.
Just put the Propel IV card on my Drogoz...

I didn't think it would change much until i realised i can stay at that speed so long as i stay in the air strafing around with my jetpack.

I'm as fast as a god damn horse buzzing around raining rockets.
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>>156315505
LEWD

ELVES ARE NOT FOR LEWD
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>>156313431
>BUCK is here to SAVE the DAAAAAY
>SMART and BRAVE in every WAAAAY
>o-oh, didn't see ya there
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>it's a "your kinessa is retard with agression while the enemy kinessa drop mines and use wreaker for drop shield, turrets and go to the point" episode
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>>156315356
snap
i thought it was everyone
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>>156315635

You either get lewd elves or elves that get chopped to pieces and eaten
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i swear this is like the 5th time im getting monolith totem from a chest

why do default cards drop a lot more often
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>>156300881
Beaner here, I hate they don't respect a game in English, I can't blame Pinoys and BR for that
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>>156316250
People on the point?
>Throw Jolt IV Poppy Bomb
Not anymore.
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>>156316040
honestly I've just taken to hoarding chests at this point, gold isn't exactly hard to come by and I'll be prepared if they actually put something interesting in them.
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>>156315936
This comic is so pure.
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>>156316250
>Bomb king
>jolt IV
>Fish market, Ice mines
>unlimited keks

>>156316335
>people overtiming the payload?
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I'd just like to get some info so we can have a better idea of who's got their competitive mode unlocked.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11346254
http://www.strawpoll.me/11346254
http://www.strawpoll.me/11346254
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>retarded non flanking edgeroxus bought fucking level 2 illuminate without any enemy skye in play
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time's ticking
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>>156316649
Not yet amigo
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>>156316524
what if you don't play it
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hello server
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>Add my name to the user list
>Add a bunch of people as referers
>Nobody adds me other than one guy who stopped playing after they hit level 12

I-Its OK, I dont play Pip anyway...
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>>156316970
it's a buggy piece of shit
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>>156316727
Oh. . . Well i guess it's probably not super helpful to put your vote down then, I guess. Cause I just want to get some odds for finding a game in comp.
Been waiting twelve minutes now.
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>>156316397
Gentleman Orc is the best archetype
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>>156317410
I gotta say the orc from that comic is my favorite orc. he's just such a genuinely good person.
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>it's a kinessa shitter has 1 objective time episode
>"i'm a sniper"
>level 7

Hurry up and start playing ranked ausbros, I can't deal with this any longer.
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>>156317707
you've hit upon something, anon

snipers believe it is their job to stay in the back out of danger and wait patiently for completely safe kawaii snipe kills

this is not how you play Paladins

kinessa is kitted out to be a skirmisher and frontline sniper, not a camper

that is the problem with kinessa players doing jack shit all
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>>156316970
what was the one guy named was it me
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>>156317840
>mines don't do shit besides slightly inconveniencing people
>carbine has the recoil and spread of a 15th century cannon
>teleport takes 3 times the average TTK to activate
What a frontline sniper, wow.
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>>156318120

Let them play Kinessa, because the shitters are usually on the other team for me and Evie is my favorite champion and a pretty hard counter
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>>156318120
and the teleporter has shit range

she should be able to set a teleporter she can tp to within 2 seconds and 15 sec or so cooldown, apparently she used to have something similar
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>>156318120
>stand on or near point
>use mines to slow
>ez MLG headshots
>carbine if you need that 30% bonus

Eat a dick Kinessashitter.
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>>156317707
>ranked is gonna make players any better
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAHA
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When you play bot matches your teammates aren't AI right?

Every single bot match I've played my entire team seems to be completely awful. They don't get on the point and when I check damage at the end, I always have double the next person below me. Are people really just bad at this game in general? I'm afraid of trying a normal match at this rate.
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>>156317707
>>156317840
If your frontliners are on the node awaiting the next enemy wave there's really no point going standing on it unless you want a quick death or be generally useless. If you survive long enough with the damage incoming you are going to have to teleport away shortly after enemies show up. There are exceptions depending on the map but it's generally better practice to hang back a little bit so you don't get instantly focused down.

What would you want more?
>Kinessa stands on the point with frontliners
>Kinessa makes sure to stall enemies by shooting them off their mounts and makes sure none of the enemies arrive to the frontline with full health

Pushing the cart is easier to do as Kinessa but getting on the point is a dumb move if that's where your frontline is sitting.
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>Pick Viktor
>Aim down the sights
>The actual hitbox for your bullets is the size of the sights ontop of your gun
What the actual fuck.
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>>156318626
what server do you play on anon? I can play with you if that's the case.
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>>156318626
They can be if some criteria that I'm not fully aware of is fulfilled. People that drop out of a game partway through will also get replaced with bots.
Bots do tend to be pretty good at going for the point though even if their damage output is lackluster so it's more likely you just had shit teammates.
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do grohk's epic lightning staves change the color of the beam too?

one has a red crystal and one has a lime green crystal so i wonder if it does

anyone knows or got pics?
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>>156318864
>>156318743

I've been winning the matches thankfully but it feels like it's far more work than it should be given how awful the bots are. I finished a match earlier where I was trying out Buck and I had 160k damage over my next teammate's 75k.
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why do people find it so hard to just get on the FUCKING objective
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>>156318672
>be generally useless

That's Kinessa.
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>>156319049
Not sure, but it seems like players are the worst at this time of day.
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>>156319049
Because no champ that isn't a tank is going to willingly get into the spot a Makoa and Barik gang bang is going down.
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>>156319291
No anon, that's a bad Kinessa.
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>>156319291

>Plays Barik
>95331
>247

You the real MVP, I feel you. Sucks when kids can't into pushing the payload
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>>156319385

this was meant for >>156319049
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>>156319380
No, that's all Kinessas except when you get lucky and the enemy team happens to have not picked any flankers.
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>>156319380
No, that's all Kinessas. There's literally nothing that she can do that can't be done by another class that can actually stand on the point. Even fucking Cassie shits all over her.
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>people who only play one character

worse than people that only play one class tbpf
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i wish i could say voicelines from other videogames

i would just spam this as much as i spam woohoo

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/72/Medic_standonthepoint05.wav?t=20100626000001
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>>156319891
>not having a "main" for each class and a backup in case your main is taken and the situation demands it
Fucking casuals, why do they even bother?

>their one character is Kinessa
Literally kill yourself tier.
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>it's a what the fuck the team is doing episode
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>>156319471
A good Kinessa is more useful than a good Cassie. Kinessa gets wallhacks 24/7, many slow fields, can 1 shot a large amount of champs with basic crits, and all but like 4 with her ult, and does 3 times Cassies dps with her carbine crits if you can land them, but even body shots are twice as much. Kinessas skill floor is just much higher than log chuckers.
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>>156320035
>it's a "kinessa does nothing all round" episode
>they play re-runs ten times a day
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>>156320090
If Kinessa isn't on the point then she is by default worse.
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>>156320117
>not instalocking kinessa and then changing to something useful with 1 second to go
It's like you don't want to have fun
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>start game
>guy instapicks a flank
>we lose a single objective, or don't get 100% on payload
>"GG TEAM NOOBS"
>continues to complain about teammates though-out the game
>end of game stats
>Objective time
>4
When do we get a ranking system so I don't have to play with massive fucking retards?
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>>156320205
I'm on and off the point constantly as Kinessa. Some maps are better than others of course. The forest map thats a giant deathbowl is probably the least condusive to on the point kinessa, but most work ok with better spots to port to to set back up.
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>>156279762
go back to /owg/ faggot
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>>156320035
>capping point solo
>wtf where is team
>turn around to watch 3 teammates chasing around a single flank on the other side of the map
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>>156320205
t. faggot who cannot into kinessa
you would be shitposting about androxus for never being on the point if the majority of players who picked him weren't good flankers. standing on the objective doesn't make a dime's worth of difference if you're shit. it's about players, not characters, you fucking autist.
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>>156320035
What a lovely, punchable face this man has.
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no matter how many poppy bombs or grumpy bombs i throw on the point my team never manages to make use of the space
HNNNHNHNHN
fucking WHEN will people get good at this game
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>>156320321
> demanding high objective time from a flanker
A flanker isn't supposed to stay on the point all the time, you know? A good flanker should just harass players around the map and distract them from the objective.

>>156320576
I feel you.
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>>156320205
>>156320341
Really, as long as she's keeping her damage up, and throwing mines on point, I think the whole objective time meme can be overlooked. Keeping enemies off the point is just as good as being on it yourself, she's kinda a flank in this regard. Granted most people fail to do this.
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>>156320861
>A flanker isn't supposed to stay on the point all the time, you know?
Capping the point, aka the first objective, requires effort from everyone. Flankers don't need to go straight for it, but you shouldn't sneak behind enemy lines and never make it back to the point -unless the situation is essentially perfect, in which case harassing the enemy as it comes out of spawn is the best option.

As per the quoted anon, having 4 seconds of objective time is just an all-around bad sign. Unless the game is a complete steamroll, you're bound to get a good 30seconds, more or less, without even trying.
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>>156320861
even shit players can do a decent job at flanking if they just annoy enemies and get them off of their horses far on their side
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>>156320861
>A flanker isn't supposed to stay on the point all the time, you know? A good flanker should just harass players around the map and distract them from the objective.
Yes, but if he's complaining about the lack of objective capturing and he hasn't even bothered to tap it occasionally, he can fuck off, it's not about the objective time it's self, it's about complaining about it and not even helping. Like I'm not expecting much, just about 50 but not fucking 4, I don't even know how you get that low. He also had the second least damage on the team.
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>>156321064
so you're a shit flanker
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>>156320710
>standing on the objective doesn't make a dime's worth of difference
Spoken like a true Kinessashitter.

> it's about players, not characters, you fucking autist.
It's about the objective, you walking advertisement for abortion.
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>>156321283
>shit cassie stands gormlessly on the objective and misses all her shots
>dies
>contributes maybe 20 objective time because she keeps dying and going in without the team
>good kinessa stays back and gets a lot of kills, making it easier for the frontline and support to deal with the objective
>b-but she has no objective time so she's worse automatically xD
reconsider your life choices. it "literally" comes down to players, not characters. some characters are easier, some are harder, therefore you get people who aren't good with certain characters more frequently than people who are good with others. the end result is you shitposting about it here because you're made kinessa didn't sit on the point with you. spoken like a true tankshitter.
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>>156321481
Cassie as a character is better suited for close combat and mobility and is therefore more useful than Kinessa.
I main support so eat a dick you Kinessa cocksucker. Go blame your team because you died to a Skye for the 90th time you mouthbreathing degenerate horsefucker.
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>>156321283
>>156321481
It's not JUST objective time, keeping people off the point helps too. But I'll also say that it's a good indicator of helping.
Like sure she might be throwing out some damage, but if she's not making enough of an impact to move up and get some objective ticks, then yeah, they're probably shit. However a good enough Kinessa/flank could be solo'ing the entire team while the rest cap, have a shitty objective time but still carried the team super hard.

Objective time isn't the ONLY thing that maters.
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>go full Skye cancer on Kinessa and Barik on the enemy team
>only get buttfucked by their level 3 direct damage defense tanky as fuck Buck occasionally
>Barik sends friend request after match
>decline
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>>156322052
>Getting out dueled by a Buck when you're Skye
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>>156322052
>go full healslut ying
>heals all over everything
>team mates apologizing to me when they die
>we win 4-0
>two teammates and the enemy ying add me
>decline them all
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>kill everyone
>win the game in 5 minutes
>everyone adds me
>block and report everyone
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>>156267084
Haven't downloaded the game yet, please help me decide who to main! Waifus only, please.

So far Ying and Skye seem like the biggest semen demons at first glance, but I'm open to other suggestions, especially if the voices are good. The more smug the better.

I'm a Widow main in Overwatch, but I also like Tracer and Mercy, if that helps any.
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>>156322493
>report every kinessa
>Reason: Intentionally Feeding
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>>156322538
Ying is pretty sweet, Skye is full edge, Cassie is closer to Ying. Kinessa is a nigger.
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>>156322538
You will play Bomb King and you will like it.
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>>156322329
>>156322052
>>156322493
Do you guys have too many friends irl that you don't want any more? When people add me I get all flattered and proud of myself and accept the requests.
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>>156322052
>>156322329
>>156322493
>get the top damage, objective time, eliminatons, solo kills, streak, and multikill
>no one adds me
>continue to secretly carry games without anyone taking notice
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>>156322736
No, I just don't want to deal with it at all. I don't have any friends and it's no wonder.
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>>156322650
every bomb king in my games is useless
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>>156322538
Kinessa ~= Widow
However, Cassie is best waifu as well as best champ.
>guy is running away with low HP
>lol no
>roll forwards towards him
>900+ damage
>ded
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>>156322909
>tfw when friend insists on maining bomb king despite getting the lowest damage every game
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>>156322052
>go full Skye cancer mode again
>their andro gets so scared of dying they get illuminate level 2
>do all you can but it's not enough because team is too retarded to contest before I can save the day with a time bomb in 3-3
>all of them have aggression at level 2 regardless of class, even Pip and Ying AND fucking Barik
>we lose
>the same faggot that was on enemy team last time was now on my team and again he adds

jesus christ
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>>156323171
>before I can save the day with a time bomb in 3-3

>this is how skyefags actually view their ult
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>go to a cliff
>grab someone with anchor
>turn camera to a cliff
>enemy falls into abyss and dies
Why even bomb king
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>>156323331
at 55-11 I was carrying that shitter team tbqh
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>>156323418
I'm sure, but that doesn't stop Skye's ult from STILL being super overpowered.
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>>156323331
>My team gets wiped out by a Skye bomb in every round so we always lose the point
>3/3 last round
>We wipe most the enemy team at 80/80 contest but Skye still alive
>JC a bomb !
>Rocket boot the hell outta here
>Get back on the point, set my sentries and win the game

NOT TODAY
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>Use anyone that isn't Fernando, Grohk, or Barik
>Be entirely useless to my team

>>156323563
Skye's ult wasn't overpowered before, and it isn't overpowered now.
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I could be a good bomb king if I could land my fucking stickies but I can't reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>156323591
>Rocket boots
So you found cover right? Because that's not getting you halfway out side of it's ridiculous range.

>>156323614
>Instant killing 75% of the roster at the largest range in the game is balanced
Bomb king ult doesn't even get kills anymore, the only thing it could remotely be compared to was nerfed, but noooo not skye ult, that's just fiiiine.
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>>156323745
>>Instant killing 75% of the roster at the largest range in the game is balanced
Given how incredibly easy it is to avoid the ultimate? Yes it is. It is by far the most telegraphed ability in the game.
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>tfw you will never have a friend loyal enough to get best friends forever
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>>156323745
Yeah found some cover. I was pretty pissed off the first time a Skye bomb landed right down on my feet without any cover around and I used Rocket Boot to get out of here. It's not enough to get out of that fucking radius.
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>>156323819
How is Skye's ult not more telegraphed than GIVE YOUR KING A BIG HUG or BEHOLD THE DRAGON'S FURY?
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>>156324025
Because a fucking siren goes off as she activates the bomb and the hud tells you precisely where the bomb is relative to your position and whether or not you're safe from the blast.
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>Cassies that can see Skye without illuminate and aim perfectly in a direction despite being too far to spot them
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>>156323819
>MUH COVER

>only a handful of champs that can actually escape spell outside of it's range
>everyone else needs to find cover
>oh look, there's no readily available cover
>3 person kill
>objective lost
>game lost
GG EZ NO RE

>>156324025
Well technically there's the 2 second timer, which is;
>less time than Grumpy bomb
BUT;
>more damage than Bombking, he only kills flanks now
>more AOE than Drogoz which only kills one person
>literally the largest and heaviest attack in the game

>>156324189
>whether or not you're safe from the blast.
AHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>skye fags actually believe this
It still kills at yellow range, which is "out" for other AOE's. It's still the largest AOE in the game. And it still instantly kills all but 3 champs.
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>>156323819
no, this game doesn't need any point clearing ults, not even potentially.
droxy needs a bash too
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>another Kinessa picking shitfuck

yes I wanted to lose again
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>>156324351
>It still kills at yellow range
No it doesn't, and you don't have to run away from the ultimate, just sit behind the payload or duck into a building, there's shit everywhere you can use as cover. This is literally D.Va ult all over again, and her ultimate is garbage.
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>Rukus is the only tank
>Only items he had throughout the game
>barely was on point

Rukus players are fucking braindead scum.
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>>156324493
just that you can see D.Va coming from a mile away and that this isn't overwatch
>just get covaaaahhh
really depends on the location, shit's not literally everywhere, and only some have fast enough movement
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>>156324521
Ruckus is not a tank. As only frontline he gets melted almost instantly. Think of him as less mobile but more tanky Viktor.
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>>156324493
I've been killed multiple times at yellow, it goes at least halfway into the yellow range.
>implying Skye players are stupid enough to deploy it near cover
>implying there's that much cover in the first place

Also D.Va was never this xbox huge, easily twice the size if not more, than D.va. You get to see it coming; giant exploding thing running at you vs. Invis into TIMES TICKING. D.va gives you 3 seconds to run, Skye only gives you 2 seconds. She's super vulnerable after using it; Skye can just invis away.

Anyways, Overwatch gets Blizzard patented "balancing", monkeys with typewriters could balance their games better.
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>>156324521
>>Rukus is the only tank
This the biggest problem. Rukus only works when there's a second front line to help him. I don't think Rukus should even count as a front line. He can't actually tank damage for his team, he can only tank damage for himself.

The rest is just him being a noob player which could happen to any champion.
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>>156324493
This isn't OW. There's much less cover overall; the payload hitbox also changed a bit last patch; you really have to be on the other side to evade it.
There's also much less movement than OW or other such games; unless you have an ability or specifically buy that one item for movement speed you can very easily be caught between the bomb and an open space.

Oh yeah, and D.Va? You can easily block it. You can also avoid it by being behind a lampost. There's a shiton of ways to avoid her ult it's not even funny.
Skye on the other hand is a complete different case. Not every champion has a Cassie roll or Evie iceblock and not every map has lamposts and shit.
The payload doesn't even spawn before you cap it, unlike most OW maps that function that way (those that don't also have a lot of nearby cover).

Oh yeah, and since Skye's a flanker, you're likely coming from behind, which means the enemy has to go into your team to avoid it about half the time.
Or did you completely forget positioning is an important aspect of these games?
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>>156325030
>>156325221
Hmmm... I wonder if there is an item in game that allows you to see Skye from a mile away and kill her before she ults... Hmmmm... Nah, that would be too OP.
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>>156325221
>There's also much less movement than OW
That's not even remotely true, every character in Paladins has some sort of mobility skill and the game is faster paced overall due to it and the horses. Every character has some kind of dash or movespeed steroid in their kit or cards to enable them to get around.
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>Kinessa main
>Play the other characters to level them up
>Only seen a single half way decent Kinessa so far
>Everyone else has been laughably bad at it.
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>>156325335
Yeah, but when you're Fernando and the bomb right under your feet, the dash that you have won't really help. Or when you're Viktor, the sprint isn't that much better.
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This thread is now dedicated to the appreciation of Ruckus.
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>>156325438
Fernando's dash goes pretty far, can be made to go father, and he's incredibly resilient anyway.
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>>156325316

Yeah, needing 900 gold to even have a chance of combating a single character that has higher mobility than you is totally fair.
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>>156325316
That's only good if you're dueling her. Otherwise you'd have the damage reduction so you're not utterly shredded the moment the enemy team sees you.
Oh and any decent Skye would come around from behind so it wouldn't really matter if she's invisible or not.

>>156325335
A lot of them are also dependent on a specific situation or they need the skill for other things.
Bomb King could easily have used his to get enemies off the point, Ming needs an illusion to actually move, tanks could have used theirs to initiate or reset the overtime timer about to expire. Even Skye doesn't really have one.
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>>156325539
Are we in the same conversation? We're talking about Skye's ult and how it's pretty much impossible for some characters to avoid.
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>>156325316
>what is a field of view
>what is rushing the last 10 ft
Revealing her in the last .3 seconds isn't going to help, especially when they come from behind like any self respecting Skye player would do. Additionally, seeing her isn't going to change much, she's still going to run in and she's still going to drop a bomb if she knows it's going to get at least 2 people (which is still more that most ults get).

Also, really? The invis detecting radius? That's your next big argument? Jesus dude, you're really grasping at straws now.
>bomb radius is easily 300% larger than a lvl3 detection upgrade
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>>156325612
Yes, and the ones that have the hardest time avoiding it is probably Ying due to the inconsistent nature of her teleport. Skye's ult is powerful but everyone acts like all hope is lost once she drops that bomb.
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>>156325539
If you had all 12 points assigned to dash distance, you still couldn't outrun skye's ult. You COULD however, just take the 3k damage because you have much more than that, but Fernando is also only 1 out of 3 characters that have hp over 3k, and can survive it. Everyone else is dead.
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many people (reddits and oficial forum) are bitching about Skye I'm sure Hi-Rez will try something, I don't understand why give PTA and patch the next day without changes.
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>>156325404
I know that feel. Kinessa is the best girl

>>156325541
>Yeah, needing 900 gold to even have a chance of combating a single character that heals others it totally fair
>Yeah, needing 900 gold to even have a chance of combating a single character that has shields is totally fair.

You deserve every death from her ult, shitter.
Oh and fun fact. Illuminate costs 200 + 400 + 600. But obviously you have no idea, loser.

>>156325564
It's a must buy if you're not a tank.

>>156325618
If there is no cover around, there is only so much places she can appear.
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>>156325718
Honestly, I feel like Ying is one of the few heroes that CAN outrun Skye ult. Although this does involve wasting an illusion by putting it halfway across the map, so probably not worth it. But overall there's only about ~6 heroes that can survive it, 3 by actually running away, and 3 by just having so much health that they can take it (but will probably die soon after, since their team is dead and they just ate 3000 damage).
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>>156325942
>Illuminate counters a single character out of the roster
>Wrecker counters 1/4th of the roster at a much more reliable rate
>comparing these two

>A counter for a single hero
>must buy
Jesus Christ stop posting

>If there is no cover around, there is only so much places she can appear.
>TWO invisibility powers
STOP
POSTING

Congrats, you are the most retarded person in all of /palg/!
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Haven + Chronos + Life Rip + Cauterize
You can never go wrong with these items
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>Pick Buck
>End up bullying the Kinessa so much I see her checking for me a good 20 seconds before starting to shoot at the point

I almost feel bad but her and Ying were the only picks I could get on the side lines.
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>>156326345
>haven
>when more than half of the enemies damage is AOE

>chronos
>on hero's with weak abilities and or cooldowns less than 10s

>cauterize
>enemy doesn't pick any supports
>they have 2 front lines

I'd also argue that Life Rip depends on the hero, match, and players in the game, but that's more open to interpretation.
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>>156326345
>no aggression
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>>156326345
You can, with all of these. You can go wrong.
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>>156326203
Holy retarded jesus, I can't even.

>Illuminate counters a single character out of the roster
>Wrecker counters 1/4th of the roster at a much more reliable rate
Do you really, really, really have all shielding characters against you in the one game? No you don't you inbred fuck. You buy both items to counter one, at best two heroes.

>TWO invisibility powers
Illuminate. Uncloaks. Her. Doesn't matter how many invisibility skills she has. You see her if she's in range.


Just stop posting, you're a literal shitter.
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>>156325839
Noone can deny that Skye's ult is really good, but people bitching about her being op and her ult being unavoidable are just bad at the game.
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>>156326569
I've had far more games with 2 shield heroes than I have 1 Skye. Wrecker determines the outcomes of every objective based team-fight in the entire game, Illuminate will occasionally save you from a 1 on 1 gank if you're looking in the right direction.

>uncloaks
You just see her, she still gets her 40% movement speed, she still gets all of her bonuses, only you know her position IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT HER.
>implying skye's don't always attack from behind
She still gets her smoke cloud. She still can run in and ult at full speed, if not more.

When will Skyefags ever learn?
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>>156326776
>really good
Nono no, it is LITERALLY the BEST ult. Bombking doesn't even have instakills on his ult anymore, there's nothing left for it to even be able to be compared to.
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Is Makoa any good?
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>>156326843
You're given a tool to counter a character, but you rather bitch about said character. You're a shitter and there is no way to help you.

>You just see her,
>Just
You "just" know where she's coming from, you "just" can shoot her, your teammates can "just" shoot her too. What a shitty item

>She still gets her smoke cloud
Which is useless since you have Illuminate. Who would've thought, huh?

>IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT HER.
>I know there is an enemy that can flank me and fuck me up, should I watch my back? Nah, that's just dumb.


>When will Skyefags ever learn?
They don't need to, since they are playing against idiots.
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>>156327094
Are you good with aiming an Anchor and having a Damage character sticking to you? Then yes. If not, Fernando is a better tank.
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>>156327216
Sick. Thanks
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>>156327094
I'd say he's great, as long as you play/build him right. He's one of the few that get a stun ability, and his circle shield can be pretty useful compared to the wall shields.

>tfw recently played a game with a Makoa that used his default shooting long range
Just stay on point and stay with team. Makoa helps his team more than he frags, you might not be the MLG top damager of the game, but you stunned fuckers and tanked damage, which I feel is significantly more important.
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>>156327094
Yes, but it's difficult to master.

>>156326962
Best ult among Flankers? Yes.
Absolutely best ult in the game? Not really. If people learnt to look behind them a bit more often, Skye's ult could be easily avoided. Skye's ult can also be nullified by other ults.
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>>156325541
>Yeah, needing 900 gold to even have a chance of combating a single character that has higher mobility than you is totally fair.

kek, it gives 50% more visibility at 200 gold, you wouldn't know of course because you never fucking buy it shitter.
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>>156327347
Please tell me which ult is better than Skye's because no mater how I look at it, I truly can't. I'd say that Bombking is up there, but you can survive it and avoid it. It was even nerfed recently.
>but then skye ult was buffed
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BK or Buck?
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>>156327347
>Skye's ult can also be nullified by other ults.
only Pip
Makoa
Grohk
buck reseting jump

Fernando alone with 25%hp
Inside Barik bubble still doing damage
Ruckus no time for load and aim
Cassie 8s
Kinessa lol
Drogos no time for charge
Bomb king no time for charge
Viktor no time for charge
Grover only if you can survive
Evie, can slow skye but your team still die
Androxus no time for charge
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>>156327157
>4 enemies in front of me and actively shooting, dealing damage and attacking the objective
>I should turn around constantly for the 1 character that isn't
Okay, good to know that one character is so important that they take president over the rest of their team, perfectly balanced.
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>Team picks 2 damage and 2 flankers like retard
>I'm left with either Support or Frontline if I don't wanna lose miserably
>Pick Pip because I get the feeling my team are drooling retards
>We get stomped obviously since the other team has 2 Frontlines and a Grover
>At one point in the game the Drogoz says "Pip fuck you" in chat
>I guess he's not happy that I can't heal his sorry ass
>Game ends
>I have more damage than him

Wew
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>>156327660
>Pip
>Grohk
>buck
Wait, really? How the fuck do any of those survive? Like I guess Buck can avoid it if he jumps high/far enough. But I have no fucking clue for Grohk and Pip.

Also, >tfw Grover ult used to counter it by healing through it, but the recent patch makes it so it instantly kills anyone you could have healed, including yourself if you lack the right cards
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>>156327883
Is Pip even viable as a healer? Or is he the character for the guy who don't need no Ying
>>
I was discussing the F2P model to some non-gamers so it reminded me to apply what I learned to Paladins. Judging from the Fanfare and early beta state it's released in, I would guess that it's because Tencent is urging Hi-rez to release their Overwatch clone before the Chinese Knockoffs could dominate the Chinese market when they move away from LoL.

The Crystal currency is the Premium currency and we all know how whales will splash big bucks for their Waifu skins. Gold on the other hand, is the 'free' currency but judging by the earning rate, it's not directly proportionate to skill level and is more consistent with time. That means a good player with a 70% win rate vs an average player with 50% win rate is earning at most 10-15% more thanks to the bulk of earnings coming from Champion Mastery. Champion Mastery starts quickly but slows down making it difficult to earn gold if you only main one character which encourages people to try out new ones.

So at the moment a hero costs 5k and the new flavor of the month 7.5k. By my rough estimations, 10 hours of play is usually sufficient to get to mastery 5 which has already refunded half your purchase price. Add in the gold you earn from matches and it's basically possible to chain purchase heroes by leveling them to level 5 for free. This is probably a temporary thing to build the player base so I expect the price to increase to 10k for old heroes and 12.5k for new ones once the game is fully release.

Cards are also another issue. At the moment the Chests bought with crystals have awful reward rates, you are more likely to get a 1.2k in gold if you have many cards already which is basically 5-6 games. It only takes roughly 8-10 games to get the ones you want for a new hero. I expect that Hi-rez will release character specific chests for the same 50 crystals if they actually want people to buy them.

>TLDR: New heroes are at a likely at a golddiscount, buy them now before the prices go up.
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>>156327705
>There is Evie somewhere flanking me to fuck me up. Should I watch my back? Nope since "4 enemies in front of me and actively shooting, dealing damage and attacking the objective"

>There is Buck somewhere with his jump off cooldown, ready to flank me. Should I watch my back? Nope! There is "4 enemies in front of me and actively shooting, dealing damage and attacking the objective"

>There is Edgevolver with his ult ready dashing behind our team. Should I watch my back? Naaah. "4 enemies in front of me and actively shooting, dealing damage and attacking the objective"

You're a shitter who bitches about characters and elohell instead of getting gud. Go and kill yourself.
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>>156325221
>Oh yeah, and D.Va? You can easily block it. You can also avoid it by being behind a lampost. There's a shiton of ways to avoid her ult it's not even funny.
yeah, which is why it was underpowered for ages. There are loads of locations where you can take cover from skye's ult, especially around points. Sure, there are chokes where there aren't a lot of cover, but those are fewer and you should be wary of skye anyway in that situation.
> Not every champion has a Cassie roll or Evie iceblock and not every map has lamposts and shit
you are completely fucking wrong about this.
>Androxus: Nether step
>Barik: Rocket boots
>Bomb king: Poppy bomb
>Buck: leap
>cassie: roll
>drogoz: jetpack
>evie: ice block, blink, soar
>fernando: charge
>grohk: ghost walk
>grover: vine
>kinessa: teleport
>makoa: shell spin
>pip: weightless
>ruckus: advance
>skye: hidden
>viktor: hustle
>ying: dimensional leap
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>>156327927
Pip if making skye chiken before drop the bomb, grohk if can kill skye before, but my point is he say
>Skye's ult can also be nullified by other ults.

I don't think so
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>>156327927
grohk can just ghost walk before it pops
i guess pip can just move fast enough with lightweight? i've never tried

also what the fuck do you do as ruckus, i mostly just had people walk behind corners and then peek out for potshots
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>>156327604
A lot of ults can be better than Skye's ults, but it depends in the circumstances. Fernando's ult is fucking good and it basically nullifies any other damage-based ult, Grover's ult can definitely change the cards of the game when it's played correctly, Drogoz's ult is excellent for eliminating good members of enemy team, both Viktor and Ruckus' ults are great if they're combined with crowd control-based ults.
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>>156327883
>>156327936
He has a nice 1k heal, which is the same as Grover, lower cooldown in order to compensate for Grovers passive.

Pip's do tend to get distracted by their grenade launcher, which is more of a player problem than character. But overall I'd say he's on par.

The recent addition of Ying has severally outclassed the rest of the supports though.
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>>156328118
You can dash while firing so you can chase people for short distances if you have both thrusters.
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>>156328025
>you are completely fucking wrong about this.
If you could think for one second, you'd know that the fact that all characters have movement abilities is irrelevant. What is relevant is how much ground these movement abilities actually cover.
Not to mention the fact that almost all of the abilities have cooldowns.
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I'm really curious to see a barren wasteland without a cover where these damn overpowered Skyes use their ults. Because I can hardly think of any. Unless we're talking about second point on Fish Market.
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>>156327976
>Evie
She can't solo your whole team, and she doesn't need a full item to counter. Her escapes are fairly ridiculous, and personally I put her second on the chopping block.

>Buck
LOL

>McEdgy
He's pretty balanced overall, and they don't deal enough damage to get very far without someone turning around.

Might I remind you this was about Skye's ULT and not Flankers in general mostly everything is okay, but that fucking ult tho. Ez kills, ez team wipes, ez objectives, ez games.
I can deal with a Flanker picking me off while I'm not paying attention, but I can't deal with someone running in at sonicfast speed and instantly killing half of my team with little to no recourse.
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>kinessa picker that does nothing but hang as far back as possible
>an andro that doesn't flank

why yes I really wanted to be paired with these fucking mongoloids
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>>156328265
So does iceblock and roll? Most movement abilities give you enough ground, if you've burned your movement ability when she uses it, it's fair enough to her.
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>>156327936
He has a decent heal on a good cooldown (even more with Reload 4 which shaves off 2 seconds if you know how to aim). The problem is that your teammates will often bodyblock your catalyst which is pretty infuriating.
As a character he has good damage and an amazing escape so he's really good if you wanna play support but your teammates are retarded.
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>>156328408
If you're talking about their Ults, they are just slightly underpowered compared to Skye's Ult.

Evie
>Wormhole means she's completely safe compare to Skye and can easily finish off squishies and leave the tanks for others.

Andy
>It's 3K damage from halfway across the map being sniped by floaty demon man. If he flanks he can just blow up all your squishes no matter how far they spread out.

Buck
>LOL
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>>156328120
not that anon but

>Fernando
leaving you with 25% HP
>Grover
you need be aware of the HP and only help a few, can't save drogos ult, BK stun and of course skye bomb.
>Drogos
only one and hit the first target, can be missed
>Viktor
give time for run, cut into three parts and leave viktor is vulnerable to attacks and Flanks
>Ruckus
need time to aim and just one direction, one can run on the sides

>Skye
Just put the bomb in middle of the point/payload/group, no aim, no time, no friendly damage, you can scape
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>>156328102
>BEFORE
Okay, that really can't count, the whole issue is that it's really hard to avoid it AFTER she deploys it, anyone can kill her before hand.

>>156328118
Not his ult, but yeah, fair enough, he can just avoid the whole thing. Ghost walk is a hell of an escape spell.
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https://discord.gg/57yAbmW

Discord link for /palg/ if you want to find competent players to party with.
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>>156328408
>you have to watch your back to not let flankers kill you
>you have to watch your back to not let Skye flank and use an ult
Wow, those are completely different concepts, holy fuck.

>doesn't know about post patch buck.


>>156328435
>I expect sniper to cap a point with me
>I'm don't like flanker that caps point with me
What's wrong with this post?
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>>156328582
>Just put the bomb in middle of the point/payload/group, no aim, no time, no friendly damage, you can scape
Countered by 1 item and semi-competent team.
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>>156328689
Not him but a good Kinessa can snipe from anywhere and the safest is behind Nando's shield and not get instant gibbed by a flanker.

A flanker usually have the mobility to harass and safely get out of situations against the enemy team.
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I'm about to install this game.

Where is the tier list, so I know which classes to make fun of and which to abuse.
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>>156328582
You're not telling anything different from what I said before though. No ult is absolutely great in ANY situation, not even Skye's ult, since all of the characters have good/decent evasive abilities and Skye's ult is blocked by walls anyways.
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>>156328770
>A lot of ults can be better than Skye's ults
thats the point

I'm still waiting
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>>156267504
This ,Grover axes have always the same hitbox despite being throw in two different way.
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>>156328561
I mean, all I WAS talking about is how Skye's ult is OP.

Evie has a pretty decent ult, but I would just say it's GOOD, not OP or anything.
Androxus is really on par, as far as I see it, best case he gets 2 people but only because he was flanking properly.
Buck is pretty bad, except a few times I was really surprised about his shotguns bonus damage from it. Probably just needs a full rework.

Meanwhile, Skye just YOLO's in with invis, drops it, and reaps the rewards of a 3-4 man teamwipe. She can even die and it still kills a bunch of people.
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>>156328807
Only works when your team already dominating the point. Otherwise you're sniping at the point blank range. Or, even worse, shooting your carabine instead of sniping.


>>156328845
Just act retarded and you'll fit right in.
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>>156328845
/owg/ might be a better place for you
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>>156328898
>Meanwhile, Skye just YOLO's in with invis, drops it, and reaps the rewards of a 3-4 man teamwipe. She can even die and it still kills a bunch of people.
apart from if the enemy team is paying attention, in which case it does nothing. Shitters just gotta learn how to avoid it, not make excuses for their bad play.
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Reminder that there are people here that thought Skye's ult was nerfed in the recent patch
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>>156328898
Ults are balanced against how good the character is normally, her Ult being the best among flankers means that every other time she's trash. Any other flanker who brought Illuminate will completely own her throughout the match compared to the 2 seconds of glory each round.

>>156328972
That's the point the Original poster wants Kinessa to move up when it's clear and other flankers to hunt down or harass the enemy team.
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>>156328689
Yes, but a flanker killing me is an acceptable loss compared to the counter fighting I was putting up against the 4 man enemy group, and by the time I'm dead the team has caught on and the Flank either retreats or dies.
Skye can't be detected for the majority of the approach, needs an item to counter, and just presses one button for a multikill, and clears the point.

It's not about them being a flank and sneaking up, it's about one of them getting a free teamwipe and as a result an entire objective.

I can't believe you're still going on this, or even that you even believe this in the first place. Skye ult has been universally regarded as OP for a while, and the newest patch only made it worse.
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>>156329039
it was
>5k in a massive radius leaving poison and still effecting you after you leave the radius
>3k in an area that can easily be avoided by cover or movement abilities
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>>156328845
>which classes
THE INDIVIDUAL CHARACTER ARE CALLED CHAMPIONS! STOP CALLING THEM CLASSE!
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>>156329014
In Paladins there are no bad picks or what?
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>>156328689
fuck off kinessa picker
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>>156329158
fernando is best frontliner
cassie and viktor are best damage dealers
ying is best support
androxus and skye are best flankers
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>>156329143
they're called dudes tismo
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>>156329158
Other than Kinessa who suffers from a bad players = bad hero issue all of them are ok
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>>156329218
Thanks dude.

>>156329253
I'm guessing, it's a sniper?
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>>156329030
>learn how to avoid it
That's the point though, unless there is cover directly next to you, or you happen to be playing one of the two heroes that can actually escape spell out of it, you're just fucked.

As long as you aren't retarded, any decent skye can easily get 3 kills on her ult, just because the majority of the game doesn't have enough mobility to either escape fully, or get behind the, LETS BE HONEST HERE, sparse cover.
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>>156329068
>brought Illuminate
As you can see ITT, buying item to counter a champion is a waste of money. That's why her ult is op.

>>156329108
>needs an item to counter
If that's your main argument, I don't see a point in talking to you.

You're in the same class of shitters who don't buy Vision Wards in lol, or Sentry Wards in dota and then bitch about invisible characters killing them.
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>>156329158
Exactly. All characters are equally good, some characters are better than others on some maps and vice versa. You can make a hero better with the most suitable loadout to your gameplay and the right items depending on the heroes in the enemy team.
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>>156329068
>Ults are balanced against how good the character is normally
>implies that skye is normally NOT strong

>is one of the strongest characters normally
>also has one of the strongest ults
Okay

>Any other flanker who brought Illuminate
God damn I WISH anyone in this game was this competent.
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>>156329189
Here. I played this one just for you. <3

>>156329272
Yes, she is.
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>>156329428
>objective time
>1

lmao
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>Kinesshiter and Cassie and Viktor on the enemy team
>I have Buck
>End up making their life so miserable they'd check their own spawn before going to the point
>I'm always there, waiting
>Game ends with 24 solo kills on my part

I-it's the way Buck's supposed to be played right ?
There was a Grohk and a Fernando that really stepped up their game during the second half so it ended up being a close one despite that.
By the way, is it intended that you can't win the game with a successful defense when you're 3/2 ? Sometimes when winning the defense the game doesn't award any points, seems to happen only when it's 3/2 on the defending side.
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>>156329279
It's the cheapest item in the store and ANY hero can buy it to counter her. You're not even sacrificing much if the hero is a squishy so the rest of the blue cards are useless.

>>156329414
Bullshit. She has no Horizontal or Vertical mobility and her escape is countered by walking past her smoke cloud and illuminate. Her DPS is high but close range so if you spot her, you will hunt her down easily.

Oh god, it's like countering spies again from TF2. I can guarantee you that the winning team from the upcoming tournament will have 0 Skye's and stomp the shit outta any team that does.
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>>156329465
In his defence, it's better than the other teams kinessa.
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>>156329510
Winning a defense will grant you one point but it can never grant you the match point to win the match. There's a visual bug with the points not updating but the game does treat it as you winning a point.
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>>156329276
learn where the cover is and it becomes piss easy to avoid, use your movement abilities to get into cover. The problem with people like you is you don't want to learn how to do it, you want it to be nerfed to make up for your lack of skill. Just put a little fucking effort in if you don't want to keep dying to it.
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>>156329279
It's not my MAIN argument, my main argument is that she clearly has the best ult, and can not even be compared to other characters, because it's just so god damn strong.

YOUR main argument, is that you can buy the item to "counter" it and it alone, which is not only wrong, but is really flawed when compared to the rest of the game.

>another lol so edgy finisher
Okay, If you weren't so brain dead you would realize that having one character sticking out this much is obviously a balance problem, but instead you just say, "YOU AREN'T COUNTERING IT RIGHT" when no other character needs to be countered this hard. And really the only thing I'm complaining about is her ult.

Hell, if they add a second invis character, I'll take back all this invis shit, but she's literally the only one with such a power.
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>>156327216
>>156327313
>>156327347
Just played three games with him. Won all three, even came back from a 3/4 deficit. Lay some good builds on me please.
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>>156329510
You can only win the game by capturing the point or making a successful push, not by making a successful defence.
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>>156329625
I do, and I try.
>when you're on point as Rukus, and your shitty boost skill doesn't even take you 1/4 of the way out of the way
Cover is legitimately just not THAT common, it exists, it's available, but it's still sparse, and a lot of heroes just don't have that much mobility.
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>>156328689

its nice to know that time bomb apologists are also kinesshitters and androfrontliners
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>>156329625
just say gid gud my man
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>>156329730
You're Ruckus, you have 4K hp and a shield on demand. You can take that 3k bomb like a Goblin and still keep shooting.

Every other class that gets instant gibbed by it has a mobility option to dodge it except Ying if she places a bad illusion. Oh and another Skye.
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>>156329414
I agree with >>156329531
Skye is good for picking enemies out of guard, surprise factor plays the most important role here. Once Skye is spotted and hunted down, she loses to any other hero.
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>>156329662
I prefer a tanky build, with bonus health and maxing out the shield ability. He's a little more open than most characters. I only suggest avoiding ShellSpin cards, just because he's a frontline and the beef works for him better than the mobility, he's also one of the few heroes that can stun which is always great.
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>>156329840
I'd love to dodge as Viktor.
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>>156329959
Alright. What should I buy midgame?
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>>156329968
If you played as Viktor and you were actually good, you could eliminate Skye before she places her ult.
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>>156329968
Sprint into cover or buy illuminate and mow her down before she plants a melee bomb at your feet.
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>>156330042
Totally. Because she can't just drop from the roof and place it. It's not like her ult is just a bomb that she drops without any preparation.
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>>156329531
Don't have to tell me that. I always buy illuminate against her.

>>156329571
In my defence I was doing it on purpose, so I could trigger people with this screenshot. Also, I killed enough people to justify my lack of objective time.

>>156329647
You aren't countering her right.

Don't forget to buy aggression against Grover.
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>>156329840
Eh, fair enough, that was a fairly bad example, but it still sucks to eat 3k damage, and only be left with 1k which Is one hit range for most things, and two hit range for everything else.

>Every other class that gets instant gibbed by it has a mobility option to dodge it
Whoa there now, I'd say only a couple of heroes actually have the mobility to avoid it. Actually I'd say Ying is one of them as long as you have an illusion set far enough away.
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>>156330017
You mean the burn cards? 1st pick is veteran because your shield will have enough time to regenerate your health. Buy the defense againest the type that is killing you the most and cooldown cards to spam more anchor.

>>156330082
If there's a roof she can drop down, that means there's a corner you can sprint around. I have yet to see a location where it's impossible to both find cover or drop her before she plants the bomb.
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>>156330198
Okay. Thanks anon.
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>>156330017
I personally get as much Chrono as I can, with a defense and heal item that goes with how the teams are matched up. I usually don't even go for a damage item since he's pretty weak for damage.
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>>156330082
So what? If you can't see her and track her, it means that you're simply a bad Victor.
Also do you know that if things get really bad, you can run faster with Viktor?
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>>156329730
>Cover is legitimately just not THAT common
another excuse like "not every champion has movement/invuln abilities", so I'll do another autistic list for you.
>Frog isle
a corner around from the point, easy to get to with movement abilities, also a lot of cover to where the payload can be pushed
>Jaguar falls
same as frog isle, it's pretty easy to get around a corner to escape
>Sundial
all those stone pillars around the point
>fish market
all those stacked crates that are around the point, also a lot of corners and elevated areas
>Timber Mill
probably the one with the least amount of cover, but still has a few corners, perhaps justified here.
>frozen guard
its piss easy to get behind the walls of the building the point is under
>ice mines
there's some cover either side of the point, a small building nearby as well where you can take cover
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>>156330176
Her range of her Ult is 75 feet which is roughly the size of the cap. You can get out of range with any flankers mobility skill while characters with a vertical mobility skill can get into cover on roofs.

It's also a good idea not to stand on the center of the cap to avoid situations like this. Usually the edge also have good cover to duck into.
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>>156330198
>>156330286
The problem with skye's ult isn't just the fact that you can buy a fucking item and see her from a distance. How hard is it to understand that she's a FLANK? Even with a level 3 item, she can still run from behind while you're focused on taking down the shields.
No game is played in a vaccuum. If you think that it's THAT easy to play Viktor (or any other damage character) and focus on objective, defense AND flanks, you might as well enter the competitive tournaments as fucking gods of this game.
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>>156330314
>roughly the size of the cap
Okay, WHAT? It's CLEARLY larger than that by AT LEAST 2 times. I'm not even going to bother with a real argument at this point, I give up, the Skyefags win, the denial is too much. It's not like HiRez cares anyways.
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>>156330412
> hurr durr if I die to Skye's ult it means that it's OP for everyone!
Yeah, it really sounds like you would be better playing Overwatch, which is more balanced, requires better game sense and it's more difficult :)
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>Skyefags are shaking in their boots since their waifu will get nerfed next patch as well
She'll get shat on just like Evie, you should learn to play something else while you still have the time.
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>playing casual
>retard compotition
>enemy Buck bullyin Ying and Cassie
>Makoa start to bitching
"stop feeding buck"
"he will be more strong"
"I die because you feed the buck"
"report for feed"
"gg no team"

I hate MOBA faggots
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>>156330412
If anybody plants an ult into your team's ass while they are busy with the enemies in front, it will be equally effective because that's good team work. Skye's not even the best because it's been mentioned so many freakin times, she has no mobility option to get behind quickly. Even a fucking Bomb King sailing over the point with poppy bomb can proc his Ult and have it barreling towards the enemy before he lands.

She's like the fricking Spy in TF2, by the time she gets behind the team with an ult, some other hero would have used his/her mobility skill to nuke them with their ult.
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>>156330547
I hate Skye as much as the rest, but given they BUFFED her last patch, I highly doubt it. And also given HiRez's previous games, I don't think they will ever care.
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>>156330542
>>156330615
>it's a "two skyefags can't deal with the fact that people call her ult OP episode"
Why am I not surprised?
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>>156330483
You're exaggerating because you are so salty about it. I just went into the range to check and if you plant the bomb at the furthest Skye, you can't hit the 3 at the back which is clearly not x2 the cap.
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>>156330547
>being good and not making dumb decisions makes me a Skye main.
Whatever you say. fampai


>>156330681
It's a "shitter being butthurt over a pubstoping hero episode"
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>>156330681
> it's a "one bad player that can't deal with a determined character" episode
Why am I not surprised?
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>>156330789
Alright, I'm going to back up a bit, are we talking about Middle capture point, or cart push range? I'd accept cart push range, because that's also pretty large (although I'd still say skye ult is bigger, just not 2x bigger). Capture points? Fuck off, Skye sympathizer.
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>pick support
>heal team as much as you can
>makoa bitches in chat "plz heal if you pick support"

Some people just can't see past their fucking nose, holy fuck.
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(Fill in the blank)
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>>156331093
Making shitters buttfurious
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>>156330895
BASED
>>156330789
>posting a shitty screenshot with little context
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>>156331110
Only correct answer
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Today I managed to escape from a TIMES TICKING placed directly at my feet as Drogoz.

Thank you based Propel IV.

Though fuck that one ice map where the capture point is in an igloo, i have lost so many games from 80:0 to 80:100 because of TIMES TICKING on that point and getting a pentakill because nobody could get out due to the roof.
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When's the free crystal weekend I can't find anything about it anywhere
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>>156331093
sucking dick

those lips HHHHHHHHHHHHNGGH
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Is Ying still overpowered as fuck or did they nerf her into the ground already?
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>>156331093
Ult-ing on the point, instantly killing half the enemy team, and securing the capture solely because of it.

>>156331110
>>156331175
t. MUHCOVER-fags
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>>156331012
Post results of the match. Some tanks are really bad players though.

>>156331217
No character is OP and she doesn't need nerf either.
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>>156331217
They fix a bug where her Shatter was dealing ridiculous amount of damage but it's still somewhat high in Damage for shatterbuilds and her healing was left untouched.
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>>156331093
cute skins
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>>156331217
She's pretty good. I hope they don't nerf her, since I have the most fun with her.
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getting lvl4 mastery on 12 champs is so god damn hard when you hate most champs..

Just wanna play barik in ranked ffs..
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>>156331379
>>>>> /owg/
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>>156331194
>tfw only 11 weeks until you get enough crystals from daily log-in's to get the good Cassie set
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>>156331430
Is it a limited time set?
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>>156331232
>t. MUHCOVER-fags
Man, someone needs to put you shitters on suicide watch

skye edit of pic related when?
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>>156331379
Heroes are drafted in Competitive which means 10 unique heroes are necessary and 2 for bans. Unless you're playing with a clan, don't bother going to competitive as it full of the same random shitters.
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Is Evie shit? Nobody seems to use her
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>>156331460
no, he's just getting it off of the free daily login crystals, which is 50 per week.
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>>156331217
They haven't had any major patches since her re-release. I don't think she's OP by any means. But, I would say she's the best support.
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>>156331540
She's difficult to use.
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>>156331546
I'm fine with waiting weeks for a item set. It's why I'll just save all my crystals for Ying's use only.
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(Fill in the blank)
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>>156331540
Highest skill ceiling and extremely squishy. Complete monster in the right hands though.
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>>156331615
hugging
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>>156331194
It was just an exemple faggot
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>>156331460
>>156331589
No, but loging in everyday for 11 weeks is pretty fucking awful.
Thats almost 3 months;
Three months of opening a game everyday,
Everyday, and if you miss one it resets.

GOD I wish the referral system actually worked.
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Is Evie supposed to use her ice block offensively or is the mark enemies get just supposed to be a defensive bonus so you dont get fucked immediately after exiting it?
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>>156331615
Holding hands and cuddling
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>>156331615
Femdom

>>156331589
> Ying
> best support
She's the best single-target healer but all other supports are as good as her, despite having different abilities.
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>>156331615
Healing, mediocre damage, and unpredictable escape spell.
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>>156331717
No, use her iceblock defensively on reaction since she gets 2 shotted by high damage class. If you want to use it offensively, use it against tanks and to block points but only shoot at them if they haven't noticed you.
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Why does Paladins get called a clone of Overwatch, or any moba is basically a clone of League?

Like, aside from the fact that neither of those games created their 'genre', but people don't even call new games by their genres. They just call them clones.

Pretty much every Visual Novel follows the same mechanics as other VNs, but you don't see VNs getting called clones of the original VN that started it all. Or you don't see every platformer get called a Mario clone. Why is it only newer modern 'genres' that get disrespected? Everything is a clone now, instead of just a new game in that genre. I think even the Division got called a Borderlands clone. Like wtf, Borderlands is basically Diablo with guns. But as soon as another game copies one thing from Borderlands, oh now Borderlands is it's own genre and the Division is the one copying it now.
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>>156331615
Big Orc Cock
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>>156331712
It takes less than five minutes to just log in, get your reward, and leave. You can leave a sticky note by your computer if you're afraid you'll forget or something.
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>>156331876
It's better just not to think about it and enjoy what you like.
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>>156331615
>>156331748
>It's time to take charge!
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>>156331767
>use the d shift
>end up on the other side of the map despite never putting a clone there

what the fuck is with this skill
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Cassie is for ______________.

(Fill in the blank)
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>>156331679
everybody's talking about it an awful lot to just be an example
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>>156332017
If there are no illusions it jumps back in time? But it really seems unreliable about it sometimes.
>Illusion is up but it still takes me back in time
>try to go back in time but it clearly isn't where you were at that point

and then the part that really gets me
>can use it multiple times during it's cooldown
I honestly don't know whats supposed to happen here.
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>>156332068
having a great time
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>>156332068
Being best damage champion.
And best waifu.
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>>156331876
Because people are retarded. Overwatch isn't entirely original, it's built on the back of at least 10 years of other fps games. Same with league basically being a dota clone. Basically, babbies can't accept that their game is part of a genre, just because it's the biggest they think everything that's similar is a copy of it. Same thing happened between TF2 and Overwatch but no one took it seriously because TF2 is practically dead.
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>>156331876
it's mostly some skills visual similarities like fernando/reinhardt rectangular energy shield or evie/mei ice block invunerabilty
it's enough to make blizzdrones scream "clone! clone!" and make publicity for Paladins but any person with working brain will notice how how different those two games are
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>>156331876
>>156332247
>HiRez provides proof that a lot of their "coping" they actually did first, and Blizzard was the one who stole, while HiRez was still in development.
I want Blizdrones to go.
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Which paladin will make me hate myself the most. I want to have a bad time playing video games.
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>>156332350
Buck or Grover.
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>>156332350
Buck
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Do we all agree that ow >>>> paladins?
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>>156271790
I played against that Zero guy and stomped his team 0-4.

After winning the first round and then mid again he went AFK.
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>>156332505
Can't I play both and hate both, because I hate myself?
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>>156332505
I'm just waiting until Quake Champions come out, playing this shit.
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>>156332556
>Zero guy
Who?
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>>156332505
Quite the opposite. Blizzard has sucked ass ever since they started making games again.
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>>156332505
To be honest famalam, until Blizzard gets their shit together:

Paladins >>> Overwatch
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>>156267706
Defeat... against bots... Wow...
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>>156332350
Kinessa vs team full of flankers
Ying against BK, Kinessa, Barik and another Ying
any frontliner when your team runs around and ignore objective
any hero when your whole team picks aggression against 3 frontliners
idk most heroes are pretty balanced and it mostly depends on teams composition and your team level of retardeness whenever you will have bad time or not
>>156332505
hard to compare released game vs game in beta stage
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>>156332505
The point is Paladins are free, even if it would cost 10$ no one would play it because its easier to buy an overwatch for 40$ than game that is worse for 10$
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>>156332350
If you want to hate yourself, you should play Overwatch and pick Bastion or Symmetra.
Paladins is a balanced game, friendo.
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>>156332936
Symmetra is not too bad on first point defense. I play her from time to time.

I'll give you Bastion though.
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>>156271790
fernando is right though except that part about haven countering aggression for Pip, unless he's referring to someone else on his team

nobody likes playing tank because everyone verbally abuses the fuck out of them, even harder than healers. The fact that Fernando is also pretty boring doesn't help.

"wtf why is tank scared and running away when he has 500 HP and no shield???"
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>Team instalocks 3 damage
>Last one picks Evie
>I'm left with support or frontline

Don't blame me if we lose faggots
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>>156332835
>OW only available to "HEY WE CAN COMPEATE IN THIS MARKET TOO, BlizzardLauncher"
>Paladins available though Steam as well as standalone if you actually like that kinda thing
Honestly, I'd be more comfortable with buying something through steam rather than BlizzardIsRelevant.exe
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>>156333020
>>I'm left with support or frontline

No you aren't
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>>156333020
>they blame you anyways
>objective times are <20
We need OW's giant, YOU ARE MISSING A TANK notifications, because apparently everyone is just that retarded.
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>>156333058
I dont get what are you talking about, i was using battle.net for about 2 years and was buying some shit like WoW subscribe or hearthstone adventures etc and never had problems with it.
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>>156270707
Everyone wants to be the top scorer (damage)in anygame same as in any. sport, they get paid the most and attract the most edgy ppl. while also being some of the worst players(skill)
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>>156332713
Not him, but for once, this is good news to hear. I've been waiting for the day bots in games could be taken seriously without them using 100% accuracy.
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>>156333013
>"wtf why is tank scared and running away when he has 500 HP and no shield???"
It's funny because it happened to me this morning while I was playing Ruckus. Team mate Makoa started trash-talking to me because he said that I was never on the pont and I always hid myself.

>>156333020
It's bad when that happens. In those cases I usually pick a damage class and ignore what other people say.
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>>156333236
Well, you can do 200k shielding, get on point in overtime, use fernando ult, your team will come and kill everyone, you will win but nobody would care because OMG THAT ANDROXUS DID SO MUCH WITH HIS ULT WOOOOOOW ADD ME PLS. So it's kinda true.
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>>156333271
>>156333132
We ended up losing 4/0 and I was top damage has Makoa even though we had 3 damage on the team. Needless to say nobody got on the point so I had more time on the objective than the rest of my team combined :^)
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>>156333158
Their older games could be played regardless, their newer games are all "download our stupid shit, or you can't play". Also battlenet only has 2 fucking real, actual games and 100000000 micro-transactions, hardly worth even pulling out my credit card for.
>WoW
>buying things in Hearthstone
Also Hearthstone was way after they "rebooted"
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>>156333498
Post results.
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>>156333430
If I see someone do well as support/tank then I tell them that after the game/in the spawnroom. I will also shit on the people who are not doing their job properly and tell them what to do better next time.

So far I've only managed to move a grover from somewhere in the back to stand on the point with the tank so he can heal and a cassie to stop buying aggression. One suggestion at a time I guess.
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>>156333498
That sounds more like a shit team of shit players than anything.
>when you outdamage your flanks as ying

>>156333601
Not that guy but, >implying most people just randomly save scoreboard screenshots without a particular use for them
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I like Barik so much, but sometimes he just doesnt fit in the team comp, turrets dont do damage and shield gets destroyed in a second. What does anon think about him? In what team comp he fits better? I
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>>156333670
A Grover on the point is a fucking pain due to its passive healing ability, but a Grover standing back might still be useful in some cases due to the high damage of his axes.

>>156333708
I usually save screenshots of the results of each game I play because I like checking my stats and comparing them to other players.
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>>156333818
he is kinda like ruckus, useless as single frontliner but amazing in pair with another one
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>>156333158
>Agent.exe
>Agent.exe
>Agent.exe
>failed to initialized, waiting for another download to finish
>have to wait 3 days before you can spend your money unless you just give us all your credit card information.
>facebook streaming and more features I don´t want
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>>156333430
You always know someone went to the edgy college if he picks the edgelord in under 1 second. His mouse click is well trained in order to maximize the chance of getting him before another, dare I say it, more skilled player picks him.

>play in group
>1 spot left
>edge kid takes andro in 0.3 sec before the countdown starts, lv 10 char
>end game, defeat
>he died 30 times did 10.000 damage 400 credits
>rest of the group between 2200-2700 credits
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>>156333818
I think he's more about survival than damage, between healing turrets, turrets healing him, and bowling ball; He can just set up on point and live way too long. Barik caps points. Hopefully your team is competent to fill in the damage, and if you're lucky, you shotgun the right targets and get a ton of damage anyways.
>tfw still no indicator of how enemies are marked or how many marks they have
HiRez pls
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>>156334045
Enemies are marked by the laser pointer from the turret, if they are pointing but haven't fire, you'll still do bonus damage.
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>standing on the point trying to break enemy shields
>all of a sudden hear
>TIME IS TICKING
>DEATH AWAITS YOU ALL
>BRINGING UP A BIG GUN
>my team's facial expression before 1-sec team wipe
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>>156333708
Reminds me of this game I played 2 days ago
>Most damage / eliminations / solo kills as Ying
I have no idea how it happened, I was just playing normally
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>>156334526
>I WILL NOT DIE, NOT YET AMIGO

And that was the day Fernando finally got his dick wet.
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>>156333960
>tfw you play with your friend but he insists on playing the character he's worst with
>tfw he does the worst of your team in most games
>can't say anything because he freaks out when you try to tell him that the real life meta counters his in-head meta
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>>156334698
Even if fernando ulted enemy team will still get a team wipe because his whole team has 1500 hp.
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>>156334458
But the marks last an amount of time right? I thought it was based on how many times your sentries shoot a guy.

Or is it just straight up; if your sentries are POINTING at a dude.
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>>156332140
If there's no illusions alive it will put you back where the last active Illusion was. If there was no illusions spawned in that round you'll get sent back to spawn.

You can use Dimension Link multiple times for a variety of reasons. Them multiple uses per cast also has heavy synergy with Rewind which is a card that every Ying deck should have.

>>156334045
There used to be a white diamond above marked people's names that would increase in number based on how many marks they had. I don't know why Hi-Rez removed it.

Speaking of which, I wish they'd bring back Barricade marking enemies that went through it. I feel like Barricade needs something to deter enemies from walking through it since right now they can just walk through it and attack him/his turrets. Bring back the mark on it or make it slow enemies that walk through it.
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>>156334806
I'm pretty sure it's pointing because I was hearing the bonus damage sound when they lock on to a Skye from the other side of the map.

>>156334771
1.5K hp is more than half the HP of most heroes and you traded in 3 ults for the price of 1. If it wasn't a match point, then the team should be giggling about the 3 ults blown.
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>>156334845
It's weird, because playing Barik is almost a gamble at this point, maybe you deal shit damage, maybe you actually kill them. I feel like barricade is fine, they get so close that the sentries and teammates focus them and shotgun deals max damage, but maybe that's just my play style.
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Oh my. They stole Grover's design
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>>156335154
haha i get it
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>Barik
>TF2 voice pack
>VVGG
>literally GG ez
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Hey /palg/, I've played this for about five hours in the last few days and it was pretty fun, but had a relatively big problem: stupid people. Will it get better on the higher ranks? I literally won a game alone, because both teams were to occupied killing themselves on the capture point while I pushed the cart.
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>>156335361
nah mate
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>>156335361
A little. But mostly people are really dumb.
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>>156335278
>win game
>spam VEW
>start a one man ho-down
YHEEEE HAWW
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Is there a way to keybind voice commands? Is it known whether Hi-Rez will add this feature in the future? What is the voice command for requiring healing?
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>>156335583
VHS
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>>156335583
get AHK ya scrub
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>>156332328
you didn't even read what I wrote did you?
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>Game's literally getting turned around for the enemy because Skye used her ult once
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>>156335583
Third party applications.
Lol no.
I'm not sure.
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>>156335769
> third party application
Wut? This is literally the first time I've heard about this thing. Please enlighten me.
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>>156335729
Well for starters, I quoted two people sooooo, I dunno?
Second, that was a more of an overall statement to the subject rather than a counter point to whatever you said.
>>
New thread when?
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>>156335930
well considering you quoted only two people, one being a question and the other being an answer you can take an enlightened guess.At least it seems you've read what I said and have taken back the blizzdrone accusation, although if it weren't meant for me I don't know why you'd link my reply in your post.
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>>156335860
I refuse to accept that anyone is this retarded, this has to be bait.
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>>156336190
No it's not bait, I really never used a third party app for keybinds in games before, because I've always played Source Engine based game and I binded jeys through console commands.
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>It's a Barik lauched the wrong game and thinks he's on 2fort episode.
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>>156336146
WOW, cool down there hotshot, once again, it was an overall statement, that wasn't directed at you. But this is, you fucking autistic sperg lord, maybe not everything is about you. Maybe I was just making a statement about how OTHERS think that Blizz is infallible and that HiRez copied them.
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>>156336335
>tf2
Oh wow, i'm sad again.
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Any info about "VOICE CHAT WHEN"?
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>>156336707
Hopefully never
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>>156336335
what i like about paladins is every hero is still about shooting stuff
you just can't just drop turret and let it do all the work for you like thorbjorn or mindlessly follow and heal your tank like mercy
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>>156336779
Are you one of these retards who dont want voice in LoL because "OMG MUH GAME EXPERIENCE EVERYONE IS SAYING BAD WORDS IN VOICE CHAT I CANT STAND IT"?
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Help
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>>156336923
No, more about it being a 24/7 bitchfest, they can use whatever language they like, but in the end it's just going to be 12 year olds yelling about how their "team is noob" an blaming everyone but themselves.
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>>156337116
Not wanting to hear the sweet sweet autism shrieks from your kinessas
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>>156337219
Yeah, no, I'm good. I'd rather focus on the game, than some 12yo screaming about how retarded he is.
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>>156336906
You can't really just let torb's turret do all the work either. Its going to get blown up in seconds if its not ulted.
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>40 eliminations with KInessa
>Just sitting comfy on your ass, throwing mines at the point between shots

>40 eliminations with Evie
>FUCK FUCK FUCK BLINK SHOOT SHOOT WORMHOLE BACK FUCK SOAR THE FUCK AWAY BLINK OH FUCK ICE BLOCK
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>>156337641
>show's Vladimir's stats
>claims to be pro with Kinessa

lmao
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>>156337754
>EVIE mastery
Nice reading.
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>>156337927
b-baited
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Hello anon, i am new, reccommend me some streamers.
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>>156338127
kusqt
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>>156338237
>>156338237
>>156338237
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