/hsg/ Hearthstone General

First for Fuck Yogg I'm glad he's dead

first for never had yogg to begin with

DEATH IS DEAD

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>>155997175
Holy shit, it's a 3rd on in 7 packs.
All I wanted was to get the Tuskarr nerf dust because biggest chance to get him.

I don't think I've ever been this lucky with packs.
In 15 minutes I'm getting the Brawl packs as well. Lets hope for Tony there. Or lord of the unplayable legion.

>>155997202
The death of the death god is the best thing blizzard ever did

First F for Mage, joining the ranks of Anduin next year.

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>PRESS F TO RESPECT DEAD CARDS
F
uck yogg, fuck tuskarr, fuck abusive sergeant

Will they continue nerfing cards when needed or will they leave it to the point where rng is deciding tournaments by itself again

>>155997463
freeze mage will never die

>no nerf to discard memelock

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>>155997463
There's still Valet Freeze Mage

>>155997427
The fuck anon.
DId you spend real money on these?

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nth for Plebbit killing Yogg the fucking God of Death.

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I've only had Yogg for a day and he's already getting nerfed, fucking hell

>>155997557
because it's garbage

>>155997537
only when the community complains enough

Will Token Druid beat out Yogg Druid for top spot?

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nth for will paladin make a comeback?Im assuming midrange shaman will still see play

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>i can play my 3 drop against a warlocks 1 drop finally

If only I wasnt on mobile so this image could be a gif to express the happiness i feel

>>155997676
Maybe Beast Druid finally?

>>155997715
But it is a gif.
Get a better browser anon,
Like chrome or firefox.

>>155997568
Enjoy your 1600 dust when he becomes unplayable

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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that actually think the rockbitter nerf will stop aggro shaman from using it with Doomhammer
This nerf fucked over every shaman archetype but aggro, screencap this post.

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>>155997715
holy shit its fixed

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>>155997463
freeze mage is a top 4 deck in wild as is control priest

Wild is actually the most balanced format by far and it blows my mind that nobody plays it

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One more game. Are you as big of a loser as me?

This will be #8

blizz finally does what they should have done months ago and stupid niggers are happy with them

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Dusted an extra Yogg yesterday.

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So what will people complain about next?

Shield Slam?
Doomhammer?
Ancient Shieldbearer?

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I mean I'm not mad but this isn't what I expected for my first double legend pack

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>>155996975
>>155997175
>>155997427
Okay, here it goes.
All 3 legos in one image, because I can't bother posting all 3 separate.
3 legos and 1 epic in 7 packs, better than the few Tuskarrs I hoped for.

>>155997563
I was saving for the next adventure/expansion/whatever and had little over 700 gold.

>>155997676
I predict the next druid deck will be standard midrange with n'zoth package

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>>155997873
yes i agree intelligent anime poster, making a card strictly worse will not hurt that deck in the slightest

>TELL ME THE DAY
TELL ME THE DAY
>TELL ME THE DAY
TELL ME THE DAY
>TELL ME THE DAY
TELL ME THE DAY
>TELL ME THE DAY
TELL ME THE DAY
someone pls tell me the day of the nerfs

>>155997919
Is it a new list or same old?

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>>155997920
I've got 6

>>155998040
some time before 16th

>>155997567
F

>>155997715
But you can't? Or do you think abusive sergeant wont be played anymore because it lost one attack?

>>155997873
THIS

The literal only turn 1 answer to voidwalker/imp is gone

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>>155997974
Miracle rogue

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>>155998003
>the three worst legends in the set
Can't complain about free dust tho. Lucky.

>>155997775
lol

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>>155998124
Oh i thought it had a mana change to 2

>>155998006
yogg is more about clearing board. It still clears board so druid probably won't change.

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>>155997202
>I crafted Yogg just last week
>only got to have a couple of fun games with it

Rest in peace brother, hope I can still refund you for full price

>>155998051
as far as I know the list with 2 torches, 2 engineers, and 1 pyroblast + the usual core cards is the most common

>>155997715
>Playing a 3 drop against their board of 5 1 drops which will get abusive/po'd to kill your 3 drop
Balanced animal necromancer of balance

>>155998035
1 mana makes litttle difference for aggro shaman, especially in the late game where he usually uses rockbitter.

Yogg should have automatically discarded your hand. That would have made it balanced and still playable, instead they gutted it into unplayable trash.

>>155998221
It's TGT, the only reason I got the packs was for Tuskarr's dust and I hoped for arcane blasts so that I can have a somewhat playable mage deck.

I started playing little before standard, so I invested all my gold into classic while using dust to craft the few useful TGT cards. I had almost everything I need for the expansion..
Free dust indeed.

>>155998348
Is there some wild tier list or do you just play it a lot?

>>155998475
Astral communion already seems to be a common spell for me

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>I mean what can I say other than !@#$ you for again destroying the only reason I play. You %^-*ed preist, and for no real reason other than dumb changes, now your gonna !@#$ yogg (fun decks that aren't played by your tournament players) decks, so there is no point playing. I swear you change cards as I craft them. You waste my time money and I can't have fun anymore so %^-* you, you only care about your legend players and those who attend your tournaments. And don't make the argument that it feels bad to lose to yogg. It feels bad to lose to someone who has spent hundreds of pounds on a game, but I don't see you fixing that do I. I don't see you fixing the agro problems. I only see you making a meta which is shaman only and filled with people who spend money. So congrats, you lost a player and you pissed one off too. Thanks for wasting my time, I'm just gonna play magic now; a game which people think about and is gonna be fun unlike yours now. So bye bye Ben, bye bye to all your !@#$ cards and %^-* meta and !@#$ decisions about the game. Not fun. I'm done.

>>155998475
>instead they gutted it into unplayable trash.
So what he should've always been from the start.

>>155998475
>Discard hand
>Draw cards off him anyway
Sure changed it

>>155997873
The only decks that used RockHammer combo to finish is Midrange and Control. Aggro had both in deck but rarely had both cards in hand or needed them to ever really finishes off their opponents. Midrange will go back to the hole it's been hiding in for the last year or so.

should I trade yogg for n'zoth or ragna light

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http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20303031

RATE THE NERFS

>Tuskar
>Yogg
>Rockbitter
>abussive

7/10 needs more "Yogg can only cast spells of the same cost you casted" it can still win games and in general be a rng swing
Rockbitter should been 3 mana
Abussive needs to be 1/1 give +1 atk

>execute
>charge
>call of wild

0/10 we need more classes to be on par with warrior since they are the most honest class in the game and the most balanced and consistent one, not to downgrade them into the shitty state of the other classes
Also call of the wild was completly fine on 8 mana, hunters now are unplayable again

>other cards
Who cares they are meme cards

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Why is there not more Murlocs? We didnt even get a new one in Karazhan and we got like 5-6 beasts.

>>155998754
N'Zoth is a neutral that can fit into more decks, so N'Zoth

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>>155998626

>>155998761
t. Rexxar

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>mfw I just dusted my duplicate gold Yogg to craft Thalnos

>>155998785
>play murloc tribal
>mill yourself

>>155998785
Murlocs are like pirates, not comparable to beasts tribe.

>>155997974
people have been complaining about shield slam and doomhammer

>>155998785
l remember playing a joke deck with every muloc and anyfin can happen, lost pretty hard every time lmao

>>155998857
I dont think it's even possible to have 30 Murloc decks.
And of course it stop if you cant summon the Murloc since it's one of the steps.

>>155998626
Context?

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>>155998591
theres tempostorm if you want to use them but I dont personally agree with a lot of the placements, at least not at my usual ranks of 5-1

https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot/legacy/meta-snapshot-52-old-meta-new-decks

for example, Zoo and face hunter are pretty rare and I honestly cant remember the last time ive seen a maly rogue but then again this is just anecdotal evidence. Either way no matter which metric you choose to follow wild is actually pretty diverse and every class and archetype is actually viable

>>155998973

Blizzard announcement comments section

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>>155998626
what happened to having fun the old fashioned way instead of having """"""fun"""""" with random trash that requires no input on your end?

>>155998626
>>155998973
A dude on REDDIT made a rant post about how he is a shitter that only plays meme decks on rank 20-15 and blizzards always nerfs his most powerful cards and "they aren't even used on tournaments".
So he got feed up with the Yogg nerf because he was FUN and never used on tournaments.

>>155999052
I do think that they're killing off Tuskarr Totemic and Charge more than nerfing them. It's the difference of Warsong Commanders/Molten Giants as compared to MCTs or Tinkmasters respective nerfs.

AHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAH DIE IN A DIRTY HOLE DISGUSTING SHAMAN SCUM AHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

>>155999191
Tuskarr isnt as killed as warsong commander. Not even close.

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RATE ME FOR MY DECKS /hsg/

>>155999191

possibly, but let's be real here. Would you actually miss them?

Would it be balanced if blizzard gave unnerfed Undertaker to Priests?

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Is it just me or are these shadowverse videos giving Kripp back his lifeforce?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRx50QaEAKA

>>155999352
I'm honestly gonna miss Tuskkar rolling mana tide

>blizzard killed yogg because MUH ESPORTS XD

come on just move him to wild

>>155999325

This is Hearthstone, get the fuck out of our thread you piece of shit. Get cancer and die! Here's your fucking rating: I rate your funeral a 10/10.

I'm actually very upset about the changes to Yogg-Saron. I understand why it was done, but that doesn't change the fact that Yogg has always been my Go-To card for introducing friends to Hearthstone. I build up to the biggest possible Yogg I can get, all the while my confused friend plays a very basic deck, until finally I shout "BOW DOWN BEFORE THE GOD OF DEATH" at the top of my lungs and slam Yogg down on the board and we sit there and laugh as Yogg proceeds to kill us both. That's a experience I can't share anymore, and that makes me kinda sad. Oh well, at least the competitive integrity of the game will be preserved...

>>155999430
>muh esports
no one fucking cares about that shit, it's just background noise. yogg niggers up the ladder

>>155999325
Can I get your sword, rune, and dragon lists senpai?

> warrior card nerfs
On one hand, I dont like that this happened because warrior shouldn't be getting less versatile, the other classes should become more versatile.
On the other hand, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! GET DUNKED ON, WARRIORS!

Why is everyone suddenly thinking that Tuskar Totemic will be shit? Even when it rolled a basic totem it never felt like a bad card to play

Never was it more true that "The squeaky wheel gets the grease". Pretty sad, in my opinion, to see the developers cave, yet again, to the rabid fanboys who sit around all day on sites like Hearthpwn and do nothing but complain about this game and the randomization that many of us (silent) majority enjoy. The change to Yogg is beyond frustrating. It was a neat card and frankly, the concept lost me as many games as it won me. It wasn't OP, it was random and chaotic, which was nice.

Yet again, though, you listen to people who sit around and expect this game to be like Chess or MTG when it's not. Embrace the random and simply do YOU, Hearthstone. Stop listening to the outcry of "Unfair! Too random" and start sticking to your guns.

At least you would have our respect then.

>>155999305
The statline remaining the same is going to push it out of a lot of decks that used to run him or had an interest in running him. He can still trade upwards to some extent and push face for pertinent damage, but other cards can do that better or do that and more. 2/4 would have been a better nerf, that makes him fit into Totem tribal decks, even though these decks need something like Medievhs Valet.
>>155999352
I miss every single card that is removed from Hearthstone. We do not have the card pool of any other comparable CCG.
>>155999375
It might be, but it's irrelevant as we do not want a return to Tempo Priest with Chow into Coin+Deathlord or Velen's Chosen.
>>155999430
>>155999524
Hopefully they'll realize that they need a similar swing-card and design a card like it, but in a more consistent fashion.

>>155999601
shaman players upset they can't high roll totem golem anymore

>>155999403
That little glint in his eye has been gone ever since he saw Firelands Portal

>>155999524
nah yogg was nerfed exclusively because muh esports and muh competitive integrity

according to stats the card actually underperforms but due to ~EMOTIONAL BALANCE~ people complain when he steals a game

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Hooray I did it

But I still feel empty inside

>Yogg nerf is just making him even more random

not surprised desu

>>155999667
I think that's just the reflection of his monitor.

>>155999601
knee jerk reactions

>>155999624
>Hopefully they'll realize that they need a similar swing-card and design a card like it, but in a more consistent fashion.
His name is Deathwing

>>155999601
idiots

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GUYS

WE WILL NOT GET A REFUND FOR YOGG

BECAUSE HIS TEXT IS STILL THE SAME

I REPEAT

WE WILL NOT GET A REFUND

NOOOOOO

REFUNNNNND

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>>155999714
Nice job brah.

>>155999619
What did you expect them to do? The latest expac was bad and didn't change the meta interestingly. They gotta do something so the game feels at least slightly different for the next few months.

>still have to wait 105 minutes until Fifa release
What deck should I play in the meantime /hsg/?

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Can someone tell me how the Standard system works? What sets are rotating out when the new expansion comes?

>>155999601

It will still be good now that Spirit Claws are a thing.

>>155999845
Dragon Tempo Warrior

>>155997568
>Wahh I'm getting all my dust back in a while whil still being able to use him until he's nerfed
You're lucky they nerfed him instead of just forcing him to rotate to wild and fuck you over on the dust return
Also post more of Saiya plz

>>155999857
TGT, BRM and LOE are rotating out.
So the game is left with Classic, Old Gods, Kazakhstan and whatever the new expansion is.

>>155999734
The biggest thing this nerf does is that it stops right after twisting nether. You cant twisting nether now and then vomit back tokens onto the board.

>>155999857
Sets are rotated out once every year, at the moment that the first expansion of the year is released. Sets that are from 2 or more calendar years ago will not be playable anymore in Standard.

So for example, once the first expansion in 2017 hits (around May), BRM, TGT and LoE will rotate out.

>>155999813
it still has been changed

there will be a refund
and you should because they fucking murdered him

>>155999619
The card was incorporated into decks because of it's swing potential and saviour role. We still need a card like this, just not designed the way Yogg was. I think you would understand if you imagine a card like it that bases itself off skill and not luck.
>>155999765
Deathwing doesn't heal you, and he additionally makes it harder for you to heal, and makes a comeback harder as he removes your options. In some midrange decks he's certainly a potent final answer if applied well, but not in decks structured to retain valuable cards and options.
>>155999857
In 6 months and 2 days, LoE, BRM, and TGT rotates out. There are videos on youtube that explain it better.

>>155999947
>LOE
Really? I thought it only recently came out

>>155999947
Plus the year of the whatevers expansion that forces the rotation. There is one more adventure this year

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why do people want a doomhammer nerf?

Predictions on tier 1 decks after the nerfs?

>still no shadowverse pc client

I just want to play a decent card game with anime tiddies and leave this game behind.

>>155999857
BRM, LoE and TGT are rotating out. I think we'll see a return to classic midrange shamans like we had in Naxx after these rotate out.

>>155998626
Brexit was for the benefit of Europe, not the UK

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LoE should be evergreen

>>155999947
Whatever the two new* expansions are.
This kills the game
>>156000142
Midrange shaman in the place of Aggro shaman.
Everyone else stays in their spot.
>>156000178
Core set should be implemented.

>>156000105
>There is one more adventure this year
Really?
But I just got Karahzan. I can't save more gold for a new one. I want more packs. Fuck, now I need to start saving all over again since expansion and new adventure are so close.

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Anyone else grinding golden shaman before the nerfs?

>>156000142
Midrange Shaman
Token Druid
[gap]
Control Warrior
Zoo
[Power gap]
Everything else.

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>Yogg fans whining about the nerf

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha eat shit

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>first legendary I ever crafted
>now dead

;_;
back to my poorfag only-loe-legendaries-and-cairne shit decks

Would you like if they added "Alliance" and "Horde" Tribes bonus?

>>156000178
YES
E
S

Fantastic correct opinion

>>156000178
Just make a core set and be done with it. Just restat some of the techy shit like Loatheb so it isn't auto include in 75% of decks

>>156000225
>Midrange shaman in the place of Aggro shaman.
That was already the case.
Aggro Shaman has few bad matchups, midrange has non.

>>156000245
Shaman will still be strong. Remember how well it performed in Batstone? Until LoE/TGT rotates out it'll stay oppressive, but at least the early game is just a tiny bit more bearable now.

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>>156000248
>>156000265
kek

>>155998708
Not really tough, midrange shaman will still be really strong. They still have other early game plays/removals to use and the one extra mana doesn't affect the combo at later turns THAT much. They'l be winnng games on turn 8 instead of turn7, big deal

>an entire warrior archetype removed
>yogg made into an unplayable instead of "just for fun" card
>fuck shaman tho
>cotw nerf is basically irrelevant

standard blizzard changes, one step froward, five steps backwards

>>156000365
Wrong! Competent controll players can slow the game down and take out saturated boards to outvalue Midrange shammys in the long term.
Not that anyone plays controll, though.

>>155999857
>>155999947

nothing rotates out next expansion it's the one after that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6DBRbRUQ1U

>>156000245
i got it 2 years ago, before you were born

>>156000147
Eternal is actually dope if you can get a beta key. The only issue is that it's MTG lite with some other elements like weapons, so the game requires a lot more attention and you can't just afk through your opponent's turn.

>>156000178
Core sets have a 50/50 chance of happening in the next rotation. If they were smart they'd do it because it's clearly needed.

Make priest great again bring back lightbomb

>>156000238
He means one more expansion.

>>156000142
Zoo

>>156000178
That would make entomb evergreen. Do you really want that?

>>155999015
>that webm
What an adorable little freak.

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WHY

>>156000085
no deathwing is not a perfect card that does everything and wins you every game. still a consistent swing card for when you're irredeemably losing

>>156000178
>cards i like should be evergreen
no

>>156000550
So either way, I should start saving up so that I can buy a lot of packs on release.
I thought that the next thing was at the start of the next year, not so soon.

>>156000585
Sure, it's a decent enough card. Not really playable right now but if there's a ton of Paladins and Warriors it's good.

>>156000585
sure,as long as they keep priest shit

i think priest is a class that shouldnt be good.Its absolutely rage inducing to play against one

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>>156000430
fuck OTK with a rusty shovel. I dont care how powerful it is, It literally always feels fucking awful to play against.

desu im suprised they havnt hit murloc paladin too seeing as how its just as prevalent and as powerful as worgen warriopr but I guess its because paladin has only 1 or 2 viable archetypes while warrior has literally every base covered

>>156000248
Yogg changes are fucking awful

>what people wanted
Yogg to be banned from tourney/serious play
>what blizzard did
Made Yogg entirely unplayable

newfag here, what is a core set?

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>mage most played

tempo mage literally unplayable, especially when flamewalker and explorers rotates out, now fucking yogg

I am uninstalling this game on all my devices, at least I get to see thrall got fucked before I die.

>>156000142
Fedora warrior, "midrange" shaman, token druid.

Other decks like miracle rogue might become more popular on the ladder depending on how severely shaman feels the nerfs.

>>156000526
Can someone explain to me how core sets work?
I never played MTG or any other card game so I have no clue what that is.

>>156000727
basic + classic cards

aka cards that will never rotate

>>156000727

Basic/classic cards that will always be in rotation.

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>>156000771
Serves you right for playing that deck

>>156000727
A Core Set is a set of cards that are always playable in the Standard format. In Hearthstone right now the Core Set consists of the Basic and Classic sets. I believe people are arguing that Blizzard should handpick a Core Set with cards from all sets, such as Loatheb, Reno, Justicar and the likes instead.

>>156000771
>deal damage randomly to the opponent's board
glad to see it and you go.

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>>155998151
Yeah.

Literally the only one.

>muh overload

YEAH. IT'S *SUPPOSED* TO BE A DISADVANTAGE. FUCK YOU.

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>>156000550
Yeah thank you, I meant to put adventure /expansion.

>>156000178
I would literally stop playing if Tunnel Trogg and Dark Peddler were in the game forever. It is a fun adventure though and I love it's heroic sleeves.

The Yogg changes actually give him an optimal condition to be played in with a full board, as opposed to using it as a reset button whenever you are behind.

>>156000637
Why do you make me waste time on you? :(

>>156000945
>Justicar
Fuck that card, I can't wait for it to be rotated out. I only ever see it in Warrior decks.

>>156000430
What 5 step backwards?
Absolutely everything nerfed deserved the nerf. OTK Warrior deserved to be killed. In fact, Warrior being removed from the game would be justified.

Also Yogg is still pretty playable. It can remove the board and draw you a shitload of cards. It just can't also fill up the fucking board after the twisting nether with CotW and tokens while buffing them a spell later.

>>156000975
>plays hearthstone
>hates random XD! muh stories

you might want to consider playing another game

>>156000715
It's still playable.
As a silly fun card with clown fiesta results.
You know, what it was actually fucking intended to be.

>>156000771
Thank you based blizzard

>>156001032
why don't you go post your shitter input on leddit

Is that it? You're going to forgive Ben just like that?

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>get annoy o tron 3 times in row
>boom bot clears my board 3 times every single game and just pings me to death
Nice fucking tavern brode you fucking hack.

>>155999191
Tuskarr will probably be seen getting played in totem-centric decks, especially after the rotation. Like it was actually designed to do.

>>156000771

Your tears are delicious you fucking faggot.

>>156000678
Problem is, blizz is too scared of entomb, so they're making priest bad until it rotates out. At least, that's zealot ' s thesis. If it were evergreen, priest would forever suck

>>156001142
>from playing 3/6 loaded russian roulette to putting a 5/6 loaded revolver to your head
>fucking intended to be

>>156001132
I've been here since the only random stories meme was rag coinflip

>>156001173
He did what I asked for, the only thing missing is a Blade Flurry buff.

So... sure?

>>156001142
No, because there is nothing fun about charging a Yogg for it to twisting nether and stop after the first 2 spells. There is a 15% chance the very first spell your Yogg casts will entirely stop it right there.

Should've just been banned from standard, honestly.
Not to mention even if it survives if it casts anything from shaman with overload you're fucking your next turn as well. It's not a fun silly clownfiesta card, it's a shitty Battlecry: Do nothing your next turn and maybe the next one too.

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FUCK THE NERFS

Post what you're listening to RIGHT NOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p99a6K81zqM

>>156001040
I play it in Priest. Great synergy with Injured, Auchenai, and making aggro decks cry in general.

>>156000771
Tempo Mage will not be missed.

>>156001323
How about all these years of his oppressive abuse? You're just going to pretend it never happened?

>>156001173
yes, he did good. he killed the things i hate

>>156001392
Right now? OK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0U1_bnU508

>>156001281
Yeah you asshole sorry you don't get a fucking get out of jail free crutch card for your shitty deck.

>>156001372
>No, because there is nothing fun about charging a Yogg for it to twisting nether and stop after the first 2 spells.
Sure there is, for the other guy.

You might as well whine about Yogg giving the enemy minions buffs. If you don't like the random nature of Yogg potentially fucking you over, don't play it! It's that simple. It's not meant to be a strong card and fuck you if you think otherwise.

>>156001268
No, they are afraid of Priest being statistically balanced because that would make him emotionally OP. Emotional balance is important, anon.

>>156001459
>oppressive abuse

you funny man you

>>155997202
>opponent is annoyotron
>plays anodized robo cub
>and iron sensei
>hero powers the sensei and bolsters
>enhance o mechano gives windfury on both
what a fun brawl :)
so is there any other way to win the pack than to concede until i get annoy-o-tron?

>>156000818
Core sets are what's standard and is a mixture of cards from varies sets, so lightbomb from gvg, reno from loe would all be standard one year but could be removed in another. Usually fan favorite cards are implemented

Some cards like lighting bolt would stay for pure fact it would be impossible to play the class without them but some would rotate like feral spirits to make room for the meta to change.

That's it for the most part, it's so much better than permanent cards forever in standard which we have now

>>156001281
More like taking a 6/6 loaded revolver and removing 2 bullets instead of 3 bullets and putting it to your head.
You were fucking dead before you played Yogg, that's why you fucking played him in the first place. So even the 1 in 6 chance to not lose is too fucking big of a chance.

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>>156001281
>from playing 3/6 loaded russian roulette to putting a 5/6 loaded revolver to your head
I like those odds.

>>156001502
No because when I load a huge fucking Yogg I just want to see a shitstorm of spells with random targets.

I don't want to spend 10 mana for it to cast a spell, it's completely anticlimactic.

I'm not saying Yogg deserves to be good or a reliable flip card but this nerf hits both the reliability and the fun of it, when it should have just nerfed the reliability. Shit, make Yogg neutral and cast random spells with random users so it can do shit like give your opponent a CotW, I don't care. I just want to see spells, I don't want it to stop after casting 20 spells and managing to get a Brann to stick on the board for a 40 spell Yogg to stop in the first three.

And even for the opponent it's much more fun to see Yogg actively fuck over the user (buff your minions, Pyro his face) than just see Yogg come out, Twisting Nether/Doom/whatever and stop instantly.

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R.I.P. OTK Worgen faggots

>>156001392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmFp0I8AZqw

While reading reddit tears

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>>156001459
>abuse
But abusive is getting nerfed, anon.

HS has the most stupid wording and Yogg's change is completely against HS's wording rules. Battlecry happens once your minion hits the board. It doesn't care if your minion is dead or alive afterwards. So Blizzard makes an exception here without clarifying it on wording. It's so stupid/

>>156001805
they did only nerf the reliability you dipshit

he still has the potential to clean enemy board, pyro face and cotw

>>156000147
Android emulators are working much better than they used to. Give leapdroid a try.

>>156001625
Do some older cards rotate ever back in in such a system? It would be nice if they weren't gone forever.

>>156002002
nope, make way for the shekels goy!

>>156001897
Yogg was against hs wording rules to start with

If yogg killed sylvanas it would cast spells for your opponent, while if c'thun killed her it would still cast for you.

>>156001392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zA1OtsvvC4

>>156002002
They better not. It'd be so frustrating to craft the same cards I've already dusted before. Also fuck boombots.

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>>156001502
>Yogg is not meant to be a strong card
??????
I mean, every single pro player that has played in tourneys the last few months would disagree with you, but fuck them I guess? Yog is only supposed to be FUN AND EPIC RANDUM XD and not a competitive card. I'll take it out of all my tier 1 decks now.

>>156001959
They also nerfed the fun because now it will stop after killing himself, something he does like 80% of the time.

So your 15-20 spell Yogg is suddenly a 3-4 spell Yogg which is less fun.

Jesus fuck do you need a fucking drawing? Is your hateboner for Yogg because he "ruins" your ~competitive we're just like real sports guys for real~ children's card game tournaments so strong you can't fucking understand a 20 spell Yogg is objectively more fun to watch than a 3 spell Yogg even if the later Yogg has a more positive effect on your chances to win?

>>156002190
I'm very glad he's changed to what he was supposed to be all along - a fun RNG card not meant to be used in serious decks :)

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>Tavern Brawl pack
>Clicked on the cards without checking for rarity because I'm used to 4 greys and a blue
>mfw Archmage Antonidas

My first non-Rogue class legendary!

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>Blizzard is STILL nerfing cards
I thought the entire point of Standard was so that they wouldn't have to change cards anymore? What the fuck is even the point of having cards if Blizzard is just going to change them whenever they feel like?

I am probably in the minority here but I'm really pissed that nerfing cards was on the table at all. I played Hearthstone because they don't pull Duelyst's bullshit. Now that Blizzard has basically admitted that they're going to nerf cards whenever people complain I have to seriously consider quitting the game.

>>156002002
Possibly, it depends really. If anything they would reprint the card with some changes to balance it

>>156002178
>Implying we all didn't get fucked when they announced standard to begin with

>>155999692
That's not emotional balance, that's bad game design. Cards with the power to single handedly flip games, based on RNG, are bad.

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There are people crying that they made yogg worse.

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>>155997568
And I crafted Dr. Boom just a week before they revealed Standard. At least you're getting your dust back.

>>156002335
That only works in a world where every class has a roughly as good basic set.

As it stands Warrior has the best core set by a LONG fucking shot.

>>156002184
Reading comprehension, anon. Use it.

>>156002335
Where do I subscribe?

>>156002190
it was fun the first few times

now i'm shaking my head and rolling my eyes whenever yogg is played in a tournament

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Shiiiiiiiiiet

>>156002335
>release broken card
>playerbase has to put up with it for 2 whole years
No thanks
Fuck yourself

Should I turn Yogg into N'Zoth, Edwin, or Alex when the nerf hits? I have all of the other competitive legendaries, except maybe Ysera and Deathwing but those don't see much play anymore.

>>156002292
please kill yourself

>>156001897
Blizzard already made exceptions like that. Pretty it's Poison Seed that works differently, mechanics wise than any other spell. It first destroys the minions, then summons the trees and then triggers the deathrattle instead of triggering the deathrattle before summoning the trees.

So nothing really new there.

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RIP combo decks

The only thing we have left now are freeze mage and murloc pally in wild

>>156002184
>I mean, every single pro player that has played in tourneys the last few months would disagree with you, but fuck them I guess?
Yeah, fuck them for exploiting a card designed by idiots who thought the randomness would just be silly instead of reliably increasing the winrate of shitty decks.

Anyone who uses Yogg "seriously" is an asshole, a straight up jackass. Fuck you.

>>156002335
In literally every other card game they just ban or restrict the card. You want it to be like that? You want an error message to pop up if you try to join a game with a Yogg deck?

>>156002472
Good fuck those things

They would be fine if we could interact with our opponents turn but we can't

>>156002465
eat shit, retarded yuro cunt EleGiggle

>tfw tavern brawl daily quest
>tfw this brawl isn't fun

I hate this so much

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>>155999403
>anime is literally saving kripp from hearthstone

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>>156002582
what the fuck, get lost twitch kid

>>156002669
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>>156002542
my nigga

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>>156002593
>saved up 'win x games with y class' quests
>classless brawl

>>156002367
Because Yogg is the only card that singlehandedly flips the game via RNG in hearthstone I assume

>>156002436
I entirely agree with a Yogg tournament ban. I also suggested making Yogg change the caster of the spell so that net positive spells like Flamestrike or so can fuck the user up as well. That would already make Yogg ridiculously unreliable and most likely kill off his viability, while keeping all his fun factor.

The reason Yogg is played so much is simply because there are so many net positive spells in the game that a big enough Yogg is most likely going to impact the board in a positive manner. By randomizing the caster you nullify this and make him 100% random, aka a for fun card that doesn't get played and turns competitive games into jokes.

Not that competitive hearthstone needs any help being a joke game already.

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reminder that rogue will be tier zero.

better start practicing, kids.

>>156002190
>a 20 spell Yogg is objectively more fun to watch than a 3 spell Yogg
I know you'd like to think that everyone agrees with you and that you can just gleefully use the word objective there but you're wrong. I for one certainly don't find it "fun" to have a game decided by coinflip and RNG fiesta etc.

>>156002292
I know this is a joke but it's true. The nerf is fitting because Yogg is a perfect Timmy card that should have been designed weak enough not to see competitive play.

>>156002479
Sorry for winning I guess. I'll try to take your feelings into account next time.

>2 mana execute
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAA
Seems like you were wrong about your "perfectly balanced class' you fedora tippers.

>>156002570
Sure, interactive is one thing, but a deck that requires some thought is also nice. Most other decks are curve stone. Actually, Maly Druid is fun to play, but again, those decks are far and few inbetween.

>>156002852
but it's going to be utter shit at 2mana thanks to rotations

>>156002817
I wish C'thun Rogue worked, Blade of C'thun is fun

>>156001163
You're still not answering my question, newfriend.

>>156002817

What makes rogue suddenly good? Don't get me wrong I have thalnos and will happily trade in my yogg for an edwin, I just want an explanation and that you're not just spouting bullshit about my once-favorite class.

>No more some fish -> wwwuuuuggghhh
>No more hehe greetings 40 damage combo
>No more Yogg

Blizzards making hearthstone great again.

the next expansion will be nothing but curvestone

My only legendaries are Yogg, Cairne and Cenarius, who should I craft when I DE Yogg?

I have a shitty C'Thun Warrior deck and a mediocre Reno mage one.

I was thinking Thalnos since lots of deck use him? How's Tony?

>>156002335

You get full value dust back for all of the nerfed cards though...

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Fuck this trash brawl. I'm gonna fucking do this goddamn Warlock quest, even if it kills me.

you guys seem to be missing the fact blizz has pretty much killed every non curve deck with these changes

yogg is one of the few non-curve decks staples, same for otk worgen and execute nerfs nerf control warrior all around

>>156003115
I think there are people who still don't know that
There where a few on the forums complaining about just crafting him and not getting full dust back

>>156003113
Craft Sylvanas. The answer is always Sylvanas.

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>Nerf Yogg into the shit because crybabies
>Coin is still counted as a spell

>>156003229
go second lose meta is upon us

>rank 1 huntard misses lethal and propels me to Legend
lmaoo

>>156003258
>Flamewaker going
>Pillager going
It's ok because the the problematic cards are going in the dumpster

Arcane giant will get nerfed soon enough too

>>156002975
plz respond :^(

>>156003229
>pretty much killed every non curve deck
Welcome to every single card game from this point on. Magic is doing the same fucking thing. Control just isn't "fun", don't you know?

Is the totem shaman deck kill or is it still worth to play with tuskarr ??

>>156001392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bflCbAN4zAo
>captcha: select all images with cars

>>156002975
tuskarr no longer causing an irrecoverable tempo loss for you and rockbiter being shit, mostly

>>156003241
What about Rag, is he too slow nowadays?

>>156003476
hes not as good cause of all the shamans

>>156003115
>>156003232
What are your bets on Yogg getting full dust refund?

None of the text or numbers on Yogg are changing, just how it works. The only other time Blizz has done this is when they changed Bane of Doom, and they did not offer dust refund back then. Admittedly that was a buff and this is a nerf, but we all know how Blizz likes to do business

>>156003349
>I serve the Cucklord!
>Coin
>Ejaculates two damage everywhere
>Arcane missiles or Mirror Image

>>156003437
Totem shaman deck goal is to flood the board with totems, so yeah it is still viable.

>>156003437
of course it's still fine, you just don't win on turn 3 with a lucky roll
Tuskar still gives 2 flametongue targets, enables Thing and gives more shit for Valiant to buff

>>156001392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgNj9v5ClGQ

i'm gonna play yogg all night

goodbye you great motherfucker, so many fun times and stories to tell thanks to you ;_;

>>155999692
>according to stats the card actually underperforms
No, according to user stats that aren't biased by retards, the game performed exceptionally well.

Yes, if you played the card while you're in the lead, it could fuck you up, but that's why the card isn't played in those situations. You play the card while you're losing. In that situation there literally doesn't exist a bad outcome. It can't underperform. It either wins you the game, or you lose. But if you lose, nothing changed, the card didn't make you lose, you were losing anyways.

Playing Yogg has no downside unless you make a spells only deck, in which case you're retarded. Put him in existing spells heavy decks and here it is, no downside. Like Token Druid. Enough spells to justify a Yogg easily without breaking the integrity of the deck.

So no, the card didn't underperform if you weren't a retard.

>>156003440

Was that really all that was holding rogue back? You still have fuck-all for healing and they can still play the rest of their broken cards, 2 mana rockbiter isn't even that bad.

>>156003596

They always do this when they nerf cards. Bane's change was mostly fixing a bug, if they just changed Yogg to overload you then you might be right, but that's not the case.

>>156003596
I would bet anything Yogg gets full refund. It's a huge drama point and a big nerf. I'll give you 1000:1, it's a sure thing.

So should yogg and load just switch to run arcane giants instead of yogg?

>>156003596
It wont give any dust like the leper legendary didnt.

>>156003708
so the stats are biased and not representative of the card?

>>155997202
Why doesn't Blizzard ever buff cards?

>>156003596
If they don't offer a full refuns then they better prepare for the "silent majority" that they love so much to ram their foot up their ass
everyone would be pissed and call them out on being top jew and only nerfing when it's about to not matter any more or when they can get around the dust refund

>>156003596
>The only other time Blizz has done this is when they changed Bane of Doom
No, they did the same with Poison Seeds in order to change the way it interacts with deathrattle.

Wasn't playing HS back then so I don't know if they offered dust refunds.

>>156003948
They did. After nerfing it twice they buffed Unleash to make it not completely unplayable.

>>156003737
1 mana rockbiter is insanely good for securing early board control, the difference between 1 and 2 mana in those early turns is huge. is that the only good card against rogue? no, but it is quite nice to receive even a 5% higher winrate in those matchups

>>156003948
in the majority of cases cards that are nerfed are never seen again

if they ever buffed a card they would inevitably create a monster

>>156003948
easier to make ice rager or evil heckler and make people craft it again

>>156003948
they make reprints instead for more £££

i have 700g should i buy packs or buy the first wing of BRM for the ressurect,gang up and emperor?

i have yshaarj for the yogg meme deck and ressurect would improve a litlle bit my priest deck..

>yogg is now the only card that gets its battlecry cut short if it dies

nice consistency hearthbabs

>>156004179
thaurissan kinda fits everywhere
id get it besides that way you can buy the rest of the expansion when it rotates out for dust and shit

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>Ha ha!
>Ha ha!
>Ha ha!

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>>156002652
I will watch kripp until either of us dies

>>156003948
Because they can always reprint them with slight buffs for extra money xd

see ice rager, huge toad, pompous, heckler

>>156004179
>ressurect,gang up and emperor
Gang up is for memes and mill, neither of which are very fun to play after you get like 40 games with it.
Ressurect only means anything if you already have plenty of legoes and all the Priest cards needed to make a deck that will let you survive against aggro/""midrange"".
I would never say you needed to add Ressurect to make you Priest deck "better", it's a card that you need to build and play around and I wouldn't bother putting in control/fatigue or dragon priest.
Thau is a solid card for combo/hand/rogue/druid decks. He used to be in nearly every fucking deck until standard rolled around.
On top of that these are all rotating out soon.

>rogue saps thing from below instead of drake
>my storm rolls 4 on his auctioneer

Disgusting.

>>156004270
does blizzard do a announce when then will remove the adventure?
i gueas when loe and gvgb rotate out i will give up from the standart and be a wild fag with my reno .

>>156004602
why would you sap card draw

>>156004602
>shaman

You're not even playing Hearthstone. A bot can get to legendary with that shit.

>>156004653
next expansion after this one brm/tgt/loe all rotate out

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>mfw Yogg nerf

>get boombot
>concede immediately

His deck is trash

>>156004773
Kreygasm for my nigga streaming for all his 2k viewers

>>156004886
> Kreygasm in 2016
GIGALUL

>>156004654
Because I had card advantage and TFB costed 0

>>156004723
Can't argue with that. Hence me saying disgusting.

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>>156004773

>>156004654
>why would you sap 5 mana
things non-rogue players say

>>156004886
How the mighty have fallen

>>156004886
>/under16/

Kolento is probably going to make a video where he masturbates as he dusts Yogg.

>>156004990
hot

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>>156004948
I got to legend from rank 4 in like 3 hours today with discard zoo

who's the memer who fooled everyone into thinking shaman was good against it?

>>156004990
Kolento is a qt so I'd masturbate to that

>>156005154
Nobody, but why are you asking me?

>>156004861
>can't win with annoy
>can't lose with boom

what's wrong

>>156005154
post dick

>>156005239
mistake

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>>156002416
Then make rotating core sets. Don't just change cards.

>>156002451
How about they playtest and start using banlists instead? Isn't that a much better solution than literally deleting the cards (which is what nerfing is)?

>>156002528
Yes. I would greatly prefer that. Ban cards from ranked play and let us keep them for friendly games only.

>>156003115
I don't care about dust; I care about decks. I don't want to see decks deleted from the game entirely. They should just be removed from competitive play.

Look, in Magic you can't play the broken Temple/Eye Modern Eldrazi decks anymore competitively. Nor can you play the old Wild Mongrel/Basking Rootwalla deck or Psychatog/Upheaval competitively. But, if you want to play them casually by just sleeving up the cards and playing with friends in a custom format, you can absolutely do that.

Nerfing cards is far worse than banning them. Nerfing a card is the same thing as deleting it and replacing it with a totally different card. It would be the equivalent of Wizards coming to your house and ripping up all your Eye of Ugins and replacing them with another shittier card.

I'm not satisfied that they replaced it; I want to still have the old card. It's absolute bullshit that they can just decide to rip up my old card and replace it with a piece of shit and claim that it's okay because I can get a refund. What if I just wanted to fuck around in casual? Why is Blizzard telling me I'm not allowed to have fun?

>>156005260
Sjow's list

>>156005312
>Look, in Magic...
Opinion discarded

>>156004987
im ten insert weeb emote

>>156005440
Actually that is somewhat right. Banning cards from a certain format is far better than nerfing them.

>>156005312
>Wild Mongrel/Basking Rootwalla
>Psychatog/Upheaval
People these days throw out the word "cancer" and "toxic", but dealing with this shit and oldschool dredge were the most frustrating things I've been through in my life.

fuck all you shitters for killing yogg
enjoy your dead game

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>>156004773
Who still a /forsenboy/ here?

>>156005154
There is nothing really "good" against zoo except freeze mage and fedora warrior.

It's just now shaman wins more than he used to.

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>realize this is my one chance to play OTK Worgen
>realize i have no will to

READ THE RAGING WORGEN FLAVOUR TEXT

>midrange hunter just double deadly shot my double ancient of war
I hate this game.

>>156005761
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone

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Nice card Yoggfags

>>156005723
Oh yeah sure because "randomly determine a winner" wasn't a deathknell on its own you faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag

I keep hearing people ask for a core set instead of basic+classic but what's even the difference

>>156005838
oh and cotw on turn 8 and double kill command on turn 9

>>156005931
balancing

>>156005931
The difference is that with a core set they wouldn't have to constantly nerf cards since instead they can just rotate them out.

>>156005931
You could include cards from other sets in too, like Reno and Tomb Pillager.

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>tfw finally relevant again after nerfs

>Hunter always FUCKING ALWAYS has call of the win turn 8
>i try the deck
>never pull it once
hearthstone is the shittiest card game ever fuckin made holy shit

How on earth is Boombot supposed to have any chance against Annoyotron

>>156006074
>whaaa I'm bad at the game so the game is bad.

>>156006090
coin concede

>>156006074
keep it when mulling

throwing it away is a mistake, just like with dr boom in good old times

>>156006090
hope he's retarded and doesn't read his hero power

>>156006140
how can someone be bad at a game that is 100% luck?

>>156006090
disconnect feature

>>156006090
boombot has much better cards and if annoyotron only has 1 minion you can easily ping off the shield

>Rogue has only gotten 1 combo card recently and it's never played
have they abandoned the combo mechanic?
why doesn't shadowstrike have "combo:can target damaged enemies"
backstab should have the same

>>156006161
>start a game against annoy-o-tron
>he doesn't use power once, instead dumps out his hand as fast as possible and loses
I love aggroshitters.

>>156006223
By having a deck that doesn't rely entirely on one overpowered piece of shit card.