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Tireal edition


>What's new?
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/game/events/machines-of-war
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20271424/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-september-19-2016-9-19-2016
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20285862/heroes-of-the-storm-hotfix-patch-notes-september-20-2016-9-20-2016

>Starcraft maps, Alarak and Zarya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUZBAOmzBh8 [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAXqZIBeS40 [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhhaPVdG7fQ [Embed] [Embed]

>Where do I find you xel'naga-loving faggots?
/join /vg/

>Do you have a discord?
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN

>What hero should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator
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Xth for either BIG HUMAN COCK or TASTU MY BURADE this October 18.

And then it's neither of them.
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Who's ready for Zarya disappointment?
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>>155869458
nobody asked for zarya
GIB LICH AND SAMURAI
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>>155869458
I dealt with Gul'dan and Alarak disappointment. I'll deal.

Ala ten k tomorrow? I'll snag him up then. Even if he is meh, I love the ideas in his kit and who knows, they might buff him.
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>>155869458
I've been looking forward to her gameplay style, and I'm prepared to be disappointed in her long cool downs and ineffectual damage.
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>>155869520
TASTA MUH BLUAADE
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Damn just noticed the new thread.
Anyway, what's the best Azmodan build?

I just recently bought him and never played it, is this one viable?
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>>155869520
WHAT IS IT NOW?

YOU CALLED?
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40 percent AP RoD guldan makes hims viable
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>>155869912
Fifty-thousand gold a year in childcare and they call it a CULT!?!?!?
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Is Gul'dan worth getting now?
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>>155869810
that one's ok but without march of sin at 7 the laser talent at 13 is only useful if you can zap a building with nobody around to bother you, so i'd probably take the W talent instead

tfb build needs you to be good at getting tfb stacks though. if you don't have enough to start oneshotting minion waves with R+Q at 10 you aren't getting enough stacks

more newbie friendly build is Sieging Wrath into laser talents because it's less dependent on farming stacks
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>>155869810
This shit is outdated as hell. Try to use this
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/39-azmodan#WNYNbNSNXNfNgNnAA

Works almost always.
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>>155870282
>>155870382

Alright thanks I'll try those.

How does xp soaking work with minions? As long as the W or D minion is alive in a lane our team gets xp?
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>>155870586
you only get xp from the w or d minion's KILLS, iirc

at least that's how locust works

it's still strong because you can D a lane across the map from objective and get some free push/building damage while both teams are busy
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>>155869458
but Zarya looks fun...I want more ranged Warriors
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>>155869274
If it is neither the only acceptable alternative would be Maiev
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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Vikings the only "vintage" option for Blizzard?
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>>155871980
No Blackthorne or Rock N' Roll Racing car yet
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>>155871980
For now.

Rock'n'Roll Racer someday.
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>>155871504
The sexiest woman in game so far. Cant wait
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>Never see Chromie in matches in the depths of the 0 MMR bracket of QM

>"I think I'll buy her now!"
>It's Chromie Free week.

God damn it. Now I'm going to deal with her every game and be hard countered by tryhard premades.

So much for learning a new hero I wanted to try.
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>>155873580
why is her head on backwards
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>>155873580
>these boobs on her back
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>>155873692
>>155873853

Glad I'm not the only one that saw that.
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Someone in the last thread Artanis was getting a buff, what?
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>>155874419
The post meant to say that he already was buffed and was asking how we felt about it.
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>>155874584
Do you mean the shield bug, or the shitty health buff that didn't matter?
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>>155874604
Also the fact that his W now has an innate dash.
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Best Xul build?

Also
>Zagara sitting pushing lanes all round but making no progress
>Absent in all teamfights
>"Lol guess thats gg"
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>>155874672
Oh that happened a long time ago. He's still ass because they made the range way too short and at the same time they did that they nerfed Triple Strike nerfing his best build.
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>>155873580
dont forget that zeratul is also on freerot and he can extremely easily kill her chromie at pretty much any time
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>>155874717

>Picking Zagara against anyone not retarded.
>Expecting to win
>2016

Ha nooooo
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>>155874993

Well, Chromie VS Zeratul is a battle of "who gets hit first".

Whoever does, dies, and a sand blast or db will out and out fuck Zeratul right over just as much as Chromie getting blinkslowbombstabbed
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>>155874717
>zagara cant push a shit along all game
>get killed 6 times mostly because her poor map awareness
>blames uther who "didn't use his stuns properly"
>"gg cant carry you noobs"
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>>155873580

Well anon, you have one solution that may backfire on you come next week:

Buy Li-Ming, who's Chromie without being a Shortstack and with all the damage PLUS a "technically an escape button" escape button.
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>>155875057
well yeah but anyone dies if chromie can hit them with sand blast and db

the problem is that zeratul spends his time walking around invis and blinking. he's not just walking around the frontline of a fight waiting for chromie to press her buttons on him
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>>155875210
>>155873580

Forgot to mention why it'll backfire - it's PRETTY LIKELY that Li-Ming will be free next week.
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Johanna is comfy and relaxing to play. I love it.
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>>155875279

Well, no fun allowed, I guess.
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Is ETC actually good or do I just go against retards all the time?


I feel like moshpit is a gamechanger, but there are also times when I moshpit and it doesn't look like much gets done...
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>>155876202
Mosh Pit is counterable, in the event that you're ETC and they have a lot of tools to stop Mosh Pit with, consider Stage Dive instead. However, even against a team with counters to it, it's still usable.
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>>155876202
E.T.C. is fantastic if you've got a aaer that knows his shit.
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>>155876202
ETC is top tier, dude. Almost always a strong pick.
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>>155868958
>[Embed] [Embed]
>not linking to the previous thread
please never create a thread again
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Is there a warrior that doesn't get kited to death in this slow ass game?

The gap closers and escapes barely take me any distance, muradin, tyrael, super kited. No flash or a blink dagger to help out positioning either in this game?
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>>155876202
Dont pick him against Tyrande or BW. In other situation he is solid pick
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I need build for Trall, tried him yesterday, ult is amazing but i lack damage and not sure what i'm doing wrong.
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>>155878269

If you're gonna bitch that much just use stiches or Anubarak
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>>155874998
>implying Zagara is bad
hello bronze
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>>155869747
EXXELENT CHUIZE
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>>155878269
tyrael has way too much mobility to get kited
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>>155868958
>Previously on /hotsg/: >>155703224
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>>155878269
as muradin and tyrael you shouldn't be "kited" because your job isn't chasing after people looking to get kills

stay with your team more often and use your abilities to help them

you can complain about getting kited when you play butcher

>>155878521
Q Q followthrough sunder giantkiller tempestfury blink

your damage is gr8 with followthrough procs
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>but i did most dmg look at the chart idiet
When will the damage dealt = high impact meme end?
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Patch when? I heard it was in ~6h.
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>>155879450
Never ever.
Same goes for in Overwatch.
People don't understand that when they're playing a role that's designed to deal damage you're probably going to get top damage.
They then get to use this to justify their actions despite them being constantly outplayed by the enemy dps.
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>>155879310
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/thrall#kHly
Like this? Why so much focus on lighting, is it good?
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whatever happened to haunted mine?
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>>155880159
level 1 Q range lets you contribute to teamfights when it's currently too dangerous to just charge in and do melee shit
also lets you dominate the fuck out of solo lanes in the early game. just mash that lightning on the enemy hero every time it's off cd

the level 4 Q talent gives extra bounces. each target hit counts towards your trait, so with this every single Q will give you enough trait stacks for a heal
just by sitting at the edge of a fight and poking with Q you can heal yourself a ton.

basically teamfights go like this:
mash Q whenever it's off cooldown while looking for an opportunity
once an enemy overextends or your tank initiates for you or something, you go in and blow someone up. wolf -> hit -> windfury -> hit -> lightning -> hit hit, ideally. sometimes you need to use the windfury speed to get in range first though

when ult is up you should ideally be hiding in bushes off to the side of the fight so you can sunder someone towards your team
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>>155880663
it is called Braxis Holdout now
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>>155880663
>had a 65% winrate on it
>absolutely loved the map
>gets removed because no one knows how to play it
One of the things that made me play this game less and less.
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>>155880159
other important tips:

your wolf goes through minions but it still damages them, so you can root someone who's on the other side of the minion wave from you
also a great way to heal up. pierce through a big pile of minions with a wolf and you will trigger lots of frostwolf resilience heals. especially useful during laning phase
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Azmodan is propably the most underrated hero in the entire game.

His early game is utter dogshit, that is true, but the amount of fucking pressure he puts on all lanes is insane. You can literally push all lanes at once while participating in teamfights and objectives.

Like you sit bot lane, pushing with your Warriors, meanwhile your general is pushing top, and you can easily help out during teamfights by chunking squishies with black pooled orbs for 1/3rd of their health.
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>>155880705
Thanks, that helpful. Sad that im bad with melee heroes and always chose bad time for initiation. Trall is really strong hero that can kill squishes in one wind furry, i will try to master him.
Kerrigan is also strong melee, even overpowered right now but she too hard.
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why doesn't the shop work?
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>>155869747
>>155869274
FUCKING WHEN?
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>crtl+f
>"kinky"
>0 results
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>>155881771
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if there is not a "eye of the STORM" themed map in"heroes of the STORM" there will be hell to pay !! !
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>>155881849
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So if I understood correctly
>28/09
>zarya
>26/10
>samuro
>5 and 6 /09, blizzcon, diablo 20th anniversary big announces around diablo
>16/09
>Deckard Cain and a new diablo 2 map
>7/10
>varian


since Axolotl talked about a fifth role, possibly the role of deckard Cain ?
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>it's a "Blizzard's unoptimized piece of shit game crashes my graphics card driver because it insists on running dx11" episode, Hero League edition
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>>155882225
Decard cain is never going to be a hero,
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>>155882225
if they were thinking about a 5th role it was probably either
* separate specialist into 2 classes: "siege" and "weird gimmicks"
* separate warrior into tank and brawler
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>>155882323
he was found on the data mining a long time ago, and is on the list of Axolotl. He will probably come. And blizzard already confirmed that they'll add a very special hero like abathur, chogall, tlv or murky.
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>>155882225
>Deckard Cain
>some old fart who cant do anything besides surviving a meteor fall and then die to some fairy magic after
what
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>>155882287
have you considered looking it up on the internet
have you considered using the -dx9 launch option
have you bothered researching it at all
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>>155882447
Deckard Cain will just give random quests to the rest of your team and empower their shit similar to Abathur.

Sounds fun
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>>155882832
>bring me 5000 apexis crystals, slave
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>>155882359
Warrior is perfect as is.
That'd be like separating Assassins into Mage and Fighter or Ambushers and DPS
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>put Kerrigan and Artanis into maw
>no one goes for the healer
>they just wait for maw to pass
>every single time

how are there 3 leagues below platinum, how much shittier can you be
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holy shit i came up with an awesome strategy for chromie
first place down a time trap
and when someone triggers it cast that dragon thing on him and he can't dodge it
i am getting literally dozens of kills every match like this
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>>155882949
>apexis crystals you say?
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>>155883915
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>>155883915
>using abilities as intended
waow, crazy strat

the timing on that actually tripped me up at first though, because her ult is 3s but traps are only 2s even though they have the same timer graphic

so what you do is watch the time trap timer, then as soon as it's 1/4th of the way done you WQ at it
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>>155884272
>se her ult is 3s
i hope to GOD i will never be in a game with a literal TRASH chromeslut who took the shit ult over the awesome slowing ult
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>>155884345
both are viable depending on situation

time loop is strong if your team doesn't have many disables because it lets you get a guaranteed combo off, although sands is great in teamfights and amazing with executioner
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>>155884465
time rewind only affects one hero and it does literally the same thing the time trap does except the hero can still fight and move during it, so that ult is actually worse than the normal trap ability
the slowing affects all heroes, has a massive range and makes enemies unable to dodge any attacks or run away
it's literally 10^999999999 levels above the shitty time rewind ult
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so, let me see if I got this right: the more I lose, the shittier my team mates become, the less chance I have of winning, which means more losing.
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>>155884573
correct
one time i lost so many times i wasn't sure if my teammates weren't easy bots because i was able to 1v3 and kill everyone and literally carry the entire game
like holy shit i was probably playing against some indian curryshits on their 386x
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>>155884562
time loop can be targeted on heroes who are running away or standing back instead of just ones stupid enough to run into your melee-range traps

>>155884573
no because you get shitty enemies as well

if you have 4 retards on your team and 5 retards on the enemy team then the only way you'll lose more often than you win is if you play like a retard too
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Is this game dead?

Can you see the playercount anywhere?
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>>155884793
>AAA company showing player count so that players can stop playing when they see the game is dying and thus the company will lose money faster
are you fucking retarded kid?
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>tfw you lose so much playing support you're now picking Azmodan only until Diamond
Rev up those reports
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>>155885349
i'll take that as a yes
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>you will never penetrate chromie's tiny tight as fuck draggon pussy and just as you start blowing your load and orgasming she casts her rewing ult on you so the second you finish pumpung the load you rewind and start start blowing the second load
;_;
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>>155884717
You can cancel Time Loop with cleanse

Every time when i do that i make a sensible chuckle
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>>155885487
why are you doing this
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>get banned from League for 14 days
>decide to come back to HotS for that period
>8 day silence after calling people trash
Uhhhh????
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>>155885862
it's simple. ask yourself every time before you post in chat "will this get anything done, or just get me reported", and then click ESC -> Options -> Mute Allied Chat
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>>155885905
Too late for that anyway, game is already uninstalled.

I wouldn't mind the silence, but HL is literally the only playable mode, and now I might as well just wait until my League ban ends.

See ya, hope the game doesn't decay any further until next time I decide to play for a couple days.
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>>155884793
It's Blizzard game, it won't die any time soon. 3-4 years support and player base for sure.
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>>155885580
time loop also gets nullified on an 8 second cooldown by medivh
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>>155885862
only constant
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>>155885991
see ya tomorrow in QM :^)
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Ok so I'm new to this, how do I counter Rikki- I mean Zeratul?

I can't buy wards or dust so how do I see him coming?
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>>155886012
actually this is propably the blizzard game with the smallest playerbase, which isn't even increasing, but rather leaking heavily
queuetimes are huge as fuck, and the match quality is pretty ass
i feel bad for the team working on it, they're actually doing a good job, it's just that the market is saturated and they were too late to the party
feels bad
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>>155886429
stealth isn't truly stealth
if you keep a close eye on things you can see things warp around where he's walking and throw skillshots or aoe shit on him
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>>155886429
you can sligthly see the silhouette of cloaked heroes (zeratul, nova) so pay more attention around you, or alternitavely play tassadar or some hero that has a clairvoyance talent if you can't see them
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>>155886429
if you look closely you can see a shimmer where invis heroes are

it's especially helpful if they're running away from you and just cloaked: if you can spot the shimmer you can follow them, and doing any damage to them causes them to decloak

but also don't hang out alone especially with low hp, because he has a decent amount of burst damage
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THE NIGHT BECKONS
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>>155886637
>>155886606
>>155886484
Ah got it, just saw him run by.

So I can't cast point and click spells on him like Sylvanas dagger, but only skillshots? Will he snap out of invis if he gets hit or keeps going?
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>>155886831
inflicting ANY damage to a stealthed hero will result in them losing their stealth
you can't click on them directly for skills which operate that way, but skillshot based skills and aoe skills can hit them
some heroes can temporarily gain stealth, others gain stealth after not being hurt for several seconds - keep that in mind
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>>155873853
>>155873692
>>155874293
Those are her scapula, dumb dumbs.
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>>155875396
She really is. I don't think I've ever had a tilting game as her, because you can walk away from almost anything.

>>155876202
He's not easy.
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>>155884272
I have never ever managed to hit someone out of Time Trap unless I take the slowing talent. It is embarrassing, but I don't have time to practice that shit in the middle of games and my timing is awful, clearly. I can lead sand blasts though.
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>>155887230
yeah like i said you have to use your abilities .5s after the trap triggers so it likely has to be a trap you're actually paying attention to rather than one that someone randomly wanders into
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I thought patch was in a few hours?
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>>155885706
because i have benis
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How do I meme on people with Gazlowe?

Also, how do I actually play a good Abathur?
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>>155888232
ignore turrets because they are boring useless shit

go full tnt/laser
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That chromie talent which let's you heartstone super fast would be so much cooler if you could pick the destination
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>>155888452
it'd be broken, you mean
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>>155888603
why? it's useless now, it takes me like two minutes to run accross the map, with the talent i could jump instantly into any teamfight or prevent enemies from spinning a bell and such
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My friend won't listen to me that triple tap is bad.
Can someone write out an explanation for me to link him to?
He might actually listen to you fucks.
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>>155888652
>give her the thing dehaka can do but without a cooldown
no

>>155889807
unlimited range on precision strike
bumfuck any weak guy anywhere on a whim
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>>155888652
Could be changed to "If used within 3 seconds you get back in time to the point you was but puts hearth on a cooldown." So it'll be useful to escape but can't be abused.

Throwing ideas out there but I doubt they'll change it.
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>>155889807
Its so easy to avoid if you're not a turbonublet

just walk behind a healthy teammate or a wall

it's that easy
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>>155888652
it's supposed to be used as an escape ability

hearthing is better than dying if you get caught out away from your team or something

>>155889807
too easy to avoid with teammate bodyblocks, buildings, etc
nova can be stunned out of it or just buttfucked to death by the rest of the guy's team while she casts
long-ass cast time where you can't do other shit
contributes less to teamfights since it's single-target only
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>>155890168
>or a wall
It only works on destructible structures
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What hero is the best solo pusher in the game?
As in, what hero just wins solo if he gets to afk push a lane, but it also ok-ish 1v1?+

Should I just buy Abathur?
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>>155890901
Azmodan surely
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>>155890861
he means the little walls next to towers that people always leave up for some reason even though they really should destroy them
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>>155890901
Zagara is pretty good. Abathur only after 16 lvl with 3 ranged locust.
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>>155889807
Show him that WTF hots video of nova wasting triple tap into the chest in BHB
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>>155888232
Go camp/merc/robo gob build. Shit on them with merc camp swarms, shit on them even more when you get the 20 talent built and shit on anyone who decides to come into melee range.
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>>155869747
MAH BLEEHD KAN KUT THRU ARMOR AN STILL KUT A TOMATO
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Do we have patch or not yet?
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>>155874717
Scythe build best build. Skele mages unless theyre a divey comp eith lots of melee.
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>>155881956
>I sure do love purple rocks.
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jesus fuck chromie qm queue takes forever.. literally everyone wants to be the little dragon slut it seems
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I've been seeing a lot of butcher in ranked recently and he loses every time. I understand he's got changes but you really have to build a team around him. Everyone just picks him as a melee assasin like thrall except he doesnt ooze utility and just fucking dies.
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>We are getting anally fucked so hard that our assess are overflowing with semen
>One good moshpit at the last moment made us win the game

I don't know if I should feel good or bad
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>>155893696
I sure do love purple cocks
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>>155894418
They also don't realize he still sucks until he stacks up.
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>>155894418
yeah everyone was like `butcher is gonna be OP the rework is too good` but he actually suffers from the same problems he did before. hes just slightly better now.
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I love chromie
>tfw large team fight going on
>get tired of it
>press 2, lean back and eat some popcorn while i safely watch as the fight progresses over the next 7 seconds
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>>155894418
I always firstpick him in Ranked and so far I've never lost like this. But then again, only 1% of Butcher players understand shit like "smashing Q directly after E hits" and "sometimes you need to cancel your E"
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>>155895778
>cancel your E
>i am a giant pussy
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>>155889807
Explain to him how globals win games.
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>>155890168
or behind a dying teammate if you are an egoistic cunt and think you are more important
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Post your hero data, and judge people by it

How I put my hots in english?
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>>155897839
Bottom of the barrel bronze on a Smurf.
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Post heroes you despise the most

1. Zagara
2. Lili
3. Li-ming
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>>155897839
Please never be matched in my team
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>>155897839
I hope this is just a meme-account
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>>155898320
Artanis
Tassadar
Tyrael
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>>155898320
Tracer ( attack while moving, 2 escape skills, totally baby-zone )

Li Ming ( Tracer 2.0 )

Nova ( Tracer 3.0 )
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>>155897839
So what does Eddy Guerrero's last name mean?
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>>155898706
sounds like you dislike order and justice
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>>155898320
1. fucking fasltad
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I'm actually in shock right now. My team had a 36 to 7 lead on Towers of Doom, then we managed to lose it because THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE FUCKING ALTARS TO END IT THEY JUST FUCKING STOOD AROUND INFRONT OF THE ENEMY BASE AND LOOKED FOR KILLS THEY OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T GOING TO GET SO THEY BLOODY FED THE ENEMY TEAM BACK UP TO WHERE THEY COULD FIGHT US OFF THE ALTARS

HOW COULD WE LOSE 36 CORE HP AND NOT EVEN DO MORE THAN 1 MORE DAMAGE TO THEIRS

LITERALLY THREW AN UNTHROWABLE GAME
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>>155901491
This must be the most infuriating thing ever. My condolences.
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>>155901491
saw a 1-40 game that ended 1-0 some time ago

the throw is always real
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>>155901491
The average player is just a down syndrome retard, but if you try to complain that a bunch of PC tards will say you are ''toxic''

Thats what kills team games, doesn't matter how good you are, later or soon you will get tired of playing with retards, at least on LoL or Dota you can carry easier, this game a shitty player alone can destroy the game for 4 good players

I feel you bro
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This new map is fucking cancer

Not only is a radiation/disgusting sci-fi geek bullshit but also promotes even more the usage of mobility heroes which are already being used everywhere

Classic Blizzard, always delivering shit we don't need, but for sure some Blizzturds will defend it like they did nothing wrong
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Patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20285864/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-september-27-2016-9-27-2016
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>Commandeer Odin (R)
>Added Functionality:
>Now grants Tychus Resistant for the duration of Commandeer Odin, reducing damage taken by 25%
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>claim your free hero
>choose between Tyrande, Anub'arak, and Thrall
So I pick Thrall, right?
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>>155903610
if you are gay

if you are straight pick tyrande
>>
weirdest HL game of my life
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>>155901668
>>155902334
>>155902804
It's not that they were total retards, we were dominating the first half of the game. It's that we literally could've won if they hadn't have been fucking trying to get kills in that zone in front of the enemy base and had capped the altars instead.
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is alarak broken now
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>>155903469
>Commandeer Odin (R)
>Added Functionality: Now grants Tychus Resistant for the duration of Commandeer Odin, reducing damage taken by 25%

wHAT
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>>155903469
>Fel Flame (Q)
>Increased base size by 5%
Okay, maybe going for Q build might make more sense now.
>Echoed Corruption (E)>
>Quest completion requirement increased from 35 to 40 Heroes hit by Corruption
Blizzard please, try buffing Pursuit of Flame instead of nerfing Echoes Corruption.
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man this patch is going to be a shitshow
>buff EVERYONE
>slightly nerf li ming and nobody else
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>>155903469
>anub buff

neat
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>>155903482
>they actually buffed the niche ulti which I use 95% of the time
it has never felt better to be a non-drill build faggot
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>>155904835
you can't be a faggot if youre playing tychus in the first place anon
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>>155904992
right you are
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>>155903469
>Commandeer Odin (R), Added Functionality: Now grants Tychus Resistant for the duration of Commandeer Odin, reducing damage taken by 25%
BIG DOG IS OFF THE LEASH
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>>155903469
Artanis shield fix. Thank you.
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>Chromie Buffed
>But she's on free week.

>Li-Ming nerfed
>Was going to buy her today.

RIP.

Fug
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>Cursed Hollow is still in rotation
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>>155905835
>Li-Ming nerfed
this is what people actually believe
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>>155906260

The shit never ends.

>>155906671

Blizzard out and out said "They believed Tychus was a Tanky Assassin with too much tank", when he's squishy as shit.

So if they nerfed Li-Ming, they probably didn't do too much.
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There is no reason to buff Alarak like this. He may not have had the best winrate but he was still really powerful in the right hands. Telekinesis especially is probably one of the strongest basic abilities in this game. This is definitely going to push him over the top.
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>>155906759
>when he's squishy as shit.
not true
he's more tanky than the rest of the ranged assassins in the game by leaps and bounds
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>>155906976

I must have been fighting retards then, because when playing as him and vs him, he's died SUPER FAST.

I don't get what the deal is, but I guess he's tanker than Valla
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Holy Shit Zarya feels like hot shit.
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>>155907312

>See? We're not pay to win! Alarak was a one time thing in recent!
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>>155907185
well that probably comes down to positioning or something
paired along with his dash and his huge healthbar he's considerably harder to kill than other ranged assassins, at least from my experience of playing him practically every single game and playing against good tychus players
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Stream soon, been watching people get triggered on colleges all day, need a break from that shit

twitchtv/akaijii
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>tfw you take the wrong talent on a tree and you fuck your whole game over
why is norse force even still in the game
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How is that new hero Chen?
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>>155910875
>Censoring name
>Isn't even on US

Pussy
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>>155910875
thanks for posting this senpai
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>>155910875
>killbeteiligungen
Können die nicht einfach "Unterstützungen" oder so was in der Art schreiben?
>Diener
Großer Gott.
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>>155910875
>Verursachter Diener- und Gebäudeschaden
>Instead of Belagerungs Schaden

I am amazed by how horrible the german translation is.
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>>155910875
>be me today
>buy butcher because his new trait sounded sick
>first game with him is on braxis holdout
>the enemy team gets a 100% zerg wave
>waitaminute.gif
>have the brilliant idea to furnace blast in the middle of the wave
>we win
>get MVP for having the highest siege damage in the game
feels breddy gud
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>>155911010
how do you know he isn't on US? For all you know he could be using a german client
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>THEY ADDED AN EASTER EGG
OH MY GOD
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>>155911513
What is it?
Also, did they fix the glitches with chen on PTR?
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>>155911206
Was hättest du denn gerne? "Minions"? L E M A O

>>155911406
It's nice.
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>>155911863
>Was hättest du denn gerne?
Sklaven natürlich, Mensch.
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>>155908939
Amazing.
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nazibo is high tier now
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>>155912716
He got worse.
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>>155912716
*nasipo
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>>155912716
high bronze you mean
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Alark or guldan? Have 10k
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>finally reach 15k coins
>was going to buy Alarak as I'd planned but now I'm not so sure because autism reasons like "well what if I want this hero instead"
>know I'll take fucking weeks to get back to 10k

Life is full of suffering, anons.
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>>155880827
it was removed because they didnt bother to rebalance it when they changed the scaling of heroes and the power of minions/towers etc
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>>155911924
>nicht "Pöbel"

pleb konfirmiert
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>>155913481
If you can use his telekinesis right he's fine.
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>Buffed Gul'dan's q range.
>Nerfed his corruption talent.

I don't know how to feel. I guess 5 more isn't all that much.
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>>155914819
Why do they hate him so much?

I mean he already lacks range and movility, his damage should be insane if they want him to be pickable.
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>>155915783
He's cooler than Thrall so they must make him bad from a gameplay point of view.
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>>155903704
and if you are a cool guy pick anub
who was also slightly buffed in today's/tomorrow's patch
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New player here. If I'm doing something in a lane on the bottom during early game and an objective happens at the top of the map, am I better off doing what I'm doing and letting other players handle the objective, or should I head up there and help?
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>>155917540
objectives are your top priority 99% of the times
when you'll get gud you might adopt different strategies (for example let xul soak bot n mid at blackheart while the rest of the team deal with the coins) but for now you just need to join the team
just don't be that faggot who solopushes all game long
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>>155917902
*top and mid
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>play as rehgar
>constantly babysit and keep alive teammates who do stupid dives, get greedy or just pick fights we can't win
>turn the tides on multiple occasions with the the amount of heals, shields and slows
>Sgt Hammer gets MVP with like 40% siege damage when all she does is sit in turret form shooting structures from afar
>everybody gives their votes for her solely because she's "MVP"
Not cool, man
>>
Regarding Zarya's ult, it functions similarly to a root, but it doesn't actually seem to be explicitly stated as one. Can you still use movement abilities while caught in it?
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How's Tychus right now? It's between him and Raynor for who I buy next.
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>>155917902

>tfw Blackheart Bay was my first match and first win, and I haven't seen the map in over 95 games since then.

I FUCKING HATE CURSED HOLLOW ONLINE

>>155917540

If you run up to the top...
>Late
You just die to Chromie/Xeratul horrors of the free week.

If you're going to commit, commit as quickly as possible ON YOUR SIDE OF THE MAP. Pathing will get you killed if you just click and look around on not your minimap
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guys i heard some rumors about wubby from team liquid being a hebrew

is there any truth to these claims
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>>155911757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwVM49e_bh0
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>>155915783
I really like the range increased on q though. It feels a lot better.
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>>155918983
the bay wasn't on the last 2 weeks rotation, but it will be playable during the next 2
cursed hollow was supposed to be unavaiable too but they fucked up and never fixed that
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>>155918663
>Be the one to land game-changing ults
>Make it to the MVP screen for "Most mercs taken"

That shit is stupid. I get the sentiment, but the execution is garbage. It essentially commends the person for straight up participating the most in teamfights, and landing kills.
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>>155918931
raynor is pretty much only good to counter tracer, and tracer isnt even worth countering anymore
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>>155918670
why not?
In OW it doesnt stun people, it just pulls people into the middle
Genji can just dash out of it, and maybe reinhardt can charge out of it

So I'd expect it to work same here
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>>155918670
Yes you can. Any movement ability can get out of it. Also it does zero damage. It's even worse than Gazlowe's ult.
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>>155566392
apparently i was in the wrong here actually
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>>155918663
>>155919903
>Play as BW
>Just hang around healing people
>MVP
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>>155920439
how dare you post a screenshot harry

fuck you you fucking slanderer
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So I got the Warcraft movie, can I use the WOW code and it just gives me another game with more time? Because the only copy I have is from a little bit ago and barely played it.
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WHY

THE

FUCK

DID GULDAN GET ANOTHER NERF?

who the fuck are these retards "balancing " the game?

>HEY yOU KNOW WHO NEEDS ANOTHER NERF? FUCKING guLDAN

not liming with her insane trait and damage and talent variety

no no

fucking gul dan who struggles to even be playable gets nerfed TWICE 2 patches in a row

and its the most irrelevant nerf ever too why the fuck would increasing his quest by 5 AGAIN would make the game better in any way? fuck this game
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>>155920046
>>155920229
That makes it miles worse; at least roots are guaranteed to keep someone in place.
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>>155921118

What you don't like watching Chen just jump kick out of your 120 second ult?
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>>155921086
Honestly it sucks but I'm okay with it. 5 isn't that much more especially with the cooldown reduction.

Also the range on q is so good now.
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>hear about a starcraft event going on in HotS
>decide to come back to the game after six months of inactivity
>check to see if they added my favorite starcraft characters as heroes yet
>the two heroes in the starcraft update are some literal who and fucking Zarya

into the trash
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>>155914819
I want her to corrupt my dick into a throbbing monster for her to enjoy.
>>
Should I buy Nazeebo now? His damage seems insane now.
>>
Is guldan Q buff just for the range or for the entire size of the aoe?
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>>155921086

>WHY THE FUCK DID GULDAN GET ANOTHER NERF

>"Hey, let's let a hero that's going to see a 500% increase in play RUN FREE UN-NERFED"

Fuck that idea.
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>>155922030
Alarak has now appeared in about the same amount of capacity as Fenix. How does that make you feel?
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>>155922171
It's worse and less consistent than before.
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They need to replace Ice Block with Spirit Walk, this way you can couple it with Soul Harvest and Soul Harvest will actually have usage within a team fight. As it stands now, it is absurdly situational.

Would also improve the "hero fantasy" considering the Spirit Walk -> Harvest combo is a thing in D3.
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>>155903469
coming from hearthstone this is insane

i cant believe this is the same company
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>>155922180
It says base size. So I think everything is bigger.
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>>155922030
Who did you think was actually going to be added?
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>>155922605
GET FFFFUUUUCCKKEEDD.

I always wished I could get into Hearthstone, as I love WarCraft. But fuck me if that shit isn't punishing if you haven't religiously played from day 1, aren't willing to cough up money, and are perfectly fine running the exact same fucking cards as everyone else. Shit is depressing. Everyone netdecks.
>>
Just got my first 10k

I'm thinking of buying Xul
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>>155922883
yeah i didnt mind grinding its just that blizzard shits out a cash grab 3 times a year and never updated the game, even when it was undeniably broken (like now)

HOTS team seems like it actually pays some attention to the community
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>>155923406
He's not what he used to be. He's still good though.
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>>155923406
Sylvanas is almost universally better now.
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>People already not picking Zarya. Even in quick match.
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Is EU down or am I being hacked by ruskies ?
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>>155923958
down for me.
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>>155923958
Did you get the patch yet?
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>>155923958
Yeah down for me too, I finished a game like 2 mins ago so it might be a matchmaking thing
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>>155924129
no
server should go down in 3 hours
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>>155923958
down
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>>155923958
>>155924047
just close the game and start it again. it works again for me.
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>>155911407
then he would be on a EU server
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>>155924431
what
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>>155924624
are you fucking retarded?

Who uses german client/lives in german to play on US?
>>
>>155923829

She's pbad m8
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>>155924779
Oh I know. I played one game with her and figured that out. It's just hilarious how quickly everyone else realized that.

Though every time I see someone with the skin I feel bad they wasted their money like that.
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>>155924753
people who don't want to play with other yurops
what kinda dumb question is that? are YOU retarded?
>>
>>155922883
its not really that everyone netdecks, its just that each class only has so many viable archetypes and each of those archetypes only has like 5 cards of leeway for changes
it just seems like everyone netdecks because there isnt really enough room to make a deck completely distinct
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>>155923829

Well, why would you pick half a Tassadar?
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>>155925098
What? unless you got a insanely fast internet you would suffer from lag

Also why wouldn't he want to play on EU? players in US are even more annoying
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>>155925098
>people who want to suffer
??
>>
>>155925485
Come on. She's also a shitty version of Medivh.
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>>155925545
well, he lives in europe so thats a given
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im filthy rich in the nexus.
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>>155925771
You can buy Zarya.
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>>155925771
you're filthy autistic that's for sure
>>
How's zarya?
>>
>>155926094
Complete shit.
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>>155925645
>he
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I bought Nazeebo after his rework; am I in for more fun than he was beforehand?
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>>155926585
He's less consistent and his toads do less damage, and he can't poison heroes anymore.
>>
>>155926585
Acid pool is fun : a good wall melts people faster than it ever did
Spiders got meh
>>
>>155926936
If that talent wasn't on tier 16 he might be good.
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>>155922523
nazeepo is dead man, get over it
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>>155926465
Having a feminine penis don't count as being a girl, thats just a /b/ meme
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Quick question from someone who entered the moba world through HOTS

Is there a moba WITHOUT free week?

maybe in lol or dota I guess its fine because the hero pool is huge, but I hate having my favorite heroes shared with the plebians for a whole week
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>>155927553
Just DotA, probably. Seeing as their entire hero pool is free all the time.
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>>155927034
NO, FUCK YOU.
>>
>>155927553

It'd be impossible to play without a free week unless they just made some universal choices permanently free

>And that goes against "le pay to play but not really shhhh" monetization plan.

So yeah. Gotta give the froobs some scraps.
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>>155927780
Only way to save Nazeebo is a female skin.
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>ITT: Scrubs complaining about Nazeebo actually requiring skill to play now
>>
would zarya be good if her trait wasn't totally dependent on her opponents being bad?

what if she had a talent that gave her energy off her Q? maybe make it scale in damage from her energy?
>>
>>155928548

Would Zarya be good in Overwatch if her gimmick wasn't totally dependent on her opponents being bad?
>>
>>155928646
Shield cooldowns aren't 12 seconds in Overwatch.
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>>155927967
God. I prefer Xul's skeletons and bone magic over all of Nazeebo's zombies and poison and frogs and all that shit.

But the one thing the Witch Doctor for goddamn sure has over the Necromancer is his Gargantuan. I fucking LOVE Necro's golems and all, but oh my god. Gargantuan is my main nigga forever. I love that fucking thing.
>>
>>155929162
Short Man's Finger. That should be the lvl 20 upgrade.
>>
>losing games because your teammates keep picking zyra

what a fun day
>>
>>155927553
dota because they just give all heroes for free instead of having stupid anti-player f2p mechanics
they just sell skins/cosmetics/music packs instead and still make way more money than hots
>>
>>155907185
he is tankier but because he's short range and has to stand still to dps things he's much easier to focus fire than e.g. a stutter stepping raynor
>>
Alright boys, I'm buying Chen. What are the must-pick talents for his remake?
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>>155928646
Your bronze is showing.
>>
>>155929770
>Nova, Zera
>Nova, Zera
>Nova, Zera
>>
Godmann, they brought up these 2 maps that I fucking hate

The God vs Devil is kind meh but I tolerate, but the dragon map is atrocious, so bad

Also another new sc themed map, Braxis is still better, since japan will censurate this new map
>>
>>155930460
>talking shit about dragon shire

get out
>>
>>155930223
He's actually got more than one build now. What a time to be alive.
>>
>>155926698
don't his toads do MORE damage post-rework? it's jsut damage over time instead
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>>155930792
You get less toads, so even if they did do the same damage over time, you lost out on potential damage.

Also upfront damage is always better than damage over time on stuff like that.
>>
>malf buff
this is gonna be good

the delay on his root is now low enough that you can just point-and-click it instead of needing setup/prediction
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>>155930515
>Shitty design
>Shitty objetive
>Encourajes dick behaviour to just camp mid to fuck around with the dragon
>Literally turn a hero into a boss, instead of working like every competitive map, and just giving the damn boss
>You lose 1 hero in the battle, a full set of abilities and traits just to get a boring damage sponge
>full of shitty gimmicks

Keep sucking Blizzard's dick, you brainless tard
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Which one is bigger?
Sonya or Zarya
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>>155930981
I bet you also think braxis holdout and garden of terror are shit like the tasteless animeposting shitter you are

>>155931141
I thought we all agreed that Zarya has superior length and a bigger head, but Sonya has more girth and heavier balls. duh.
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>>155930981
The fucking one map that isn't just "win one teamfight and have more AOE/siege" and you complain? Learn to rotate. I wonder how much you bitch about Garden.
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>>155931326
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>>155931310
>Talking about my taste and anime reaction faces in a anime imageboard

Both relevant stuff, I got your point perfectly, you are just a plebtard who likes stuff without even knowing why, I bet you are one of those fags that shits on the game and when people call you out you ''report for toxicity''
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>balance patch
>no tassadar buffs
blizzard?
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>>155932006
nah, I just like maps that reward team coordination and discourage 5 man stampedes marching to point A or B with tunnel vision out the ass.

>>155932013
what are they supposed to be buffing, your ownreaction time?
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>>155932387
I mean the fact that he's only got one real build is kind of disappointing, but at the same time. The way blizzard fixes that is by nerfing the good talents.
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>>155932013
>No Tass talent rework
>No Malf talent rework
>No Nova talent re-rework
>No Kerrigan talent rework
>No Murky talent rework
>No Tyrael talent rwwork
>No Jimmy talent re-rework.
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the mindset of a first pick illidan when questioned "why would you pick illidan before asking your team "hey why didn't you ask your team whether they could build around illidan before picking him?""
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>>155932902
>reworking Tyrael's talents

Are you insane, anon? The only way blizz reworks shit is by nerfing the good ones, and Tyrael's good talents are VERY good right now. His talents are the only thing making him good because his kit is lackluster, mana hungry and weighed down by a gimmicky passive.
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I gotta stop playing quickmatch
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>>155933716
I was in a game where we had 2 tanks, 2 specialists and a support vs a balanced team.

We'd get destroyed every team fight because we didn't have any damage.
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>>155933840

Well when they keep nerfing the damage and people migrate to other damage only to have it nerfed as well, there's jack shit that can be done after a while.
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>>155868958
Installed this last night and it took 550 seconds to find a match with the quick play, do not many people play this? :(
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>>155933987
Are two specialist were Nazeebo and Abathur.
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>>155929770
This

Free rotation is fucking stupid, and people are idiots, just release a shitload of skins and people will buy for their heroes, fuck it, some people will even buy for heroes they don't use

CSGO was dead, valve introduced skins, CSGO got big
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>>155934115
Look up the work put into a brightwing skin that had to be changed.

Skins take a fuck ton of work, especially skins with themed abilities, animations, interactions with other abilities and new voice overs.

Not surprised they take time

CSGO skins are just skins, They don't require new animations or as much extra work.
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>>155933990
matchmaking is bloated and makes finding games take forever.
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>>155934317
Blizzard wipes their ass with money, they should be more proactive if they really wanna make even more money

also plebs are dumb, they probably would think blizzard is a saint for make heroes free, so even more $$$
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>>155934031
>they removed GP from Nazeebo for no reason at all
>no way to get beeg dommage for cheap now
>have to take shitty quest talents for damage increase

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>155923814
I feel like every patch they make the game worse.
the 10% mount speed nerf made xul worse and zag better.
It also made it harder to react to Sylv or Hammer cheesing a lane
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>>155934115
also just having all heroes makes people MORE willing to buy skins

people won't want to buy cosmetics for heroes they don't own and aren't sure if they enjoy them

but if there's a fancy new Juggernaut Arcana coming out and you are wondering whether to buy it you can just go and play juggernaut right now to see if you like the hero

>>155934317
devs specifically said that the brightwing skins took a long time to modify because they fucked up and had no idea what they were doing when they made bw, so she's way harder to make skins for than other heroes
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>>155934452
what do you mean by bloated? im EU btw
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>>155935471
it factors in too many things which slows down the process. also its 0233 in the morning on a weekday, youre not gonna find many people playing right now
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>>155933987
If everyone is underpower, then there would be no OP
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update just started for meeee
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>>155935631
kk I understand, thanks love
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>tfw not good enough with enough heroes to climb in HL
>tfw always forced to pick supp when i suck with them and hate playing them
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>>155935896
play bw
carry as support
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When is lizard season over? I want to try HL again.
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patch live in Yuro Land now
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>>155933840

They need to implement a 1 assassin minimum for qm.

It's not like there aren't enough queueing.
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>>155936085
His flame talent is really good at lvl 1, unless they have a lot of aa damage than go elusive.

Just be the panda.
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>>155930223
>>155936085

Don't need to ask twice
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400seconds waiting, EU players plz
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>>155936085
Brewmaster's balance.
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>>155936269
ITS 3 AM YOU MEMESTER, PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING
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>>155936283

You know what?

Bolder flavors actually pretty god damned great. If not competitive all around it's going to at least be a situational anti mage pick.
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>>155936269
1600 seconds of waiting, Aus / NZ players pls.
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>In Mother Russia, this joke is tired of you.
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>>155936495
Geh schlafen.
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>I am the strongest...WOMAN
What did she mean by this?
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>>155934906
But anon! Soul Harvest increases damage up to 15%! A whole 3% ncrease per enemy near Nazeebo for 15 seconds! Think about it!!!!!!


THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>155936258
browser fucked up
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>>155936985
I was wondering about Bolder Flavors, is it any good?
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>>155935896
Become a healer slut and play morales, just don't forget to say "porfavor y gracias".
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>>155937173
>YOU ARE CREDIT TO TEAM
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>>155937309
enemies shouldn't be near Nazeebo in the first place. if enemies are near you, you are either 3 levels ahead and memeing on them with faceroll combos and garg
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Friendly reminder, if you play Medivh you should consider necking yourself.
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>>155938674
Why Medivh is good.
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>>155938674
Wasn't that abathur?
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I think we should dissect the changes made to Gul'dan and how it will effect the meta.
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>newzeebo can 1v1 Illidan and win every time

huh
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>>155939403
>how it will effect the meta
it's nothing
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Why does he collect the meat?
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>>155938639
Creep waves count as enemies
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>>155936209
>>155936283
>>155936985
>>155937448
This just in: BB is still the best fucking talent ever.

I don't think accumulating flame is 100% pick. Regen is still the same as it always was (even a little better), and elusive brawler is situationally insane. I tried withering fire at 13 this game and really liked the results.

Also thinking I might go SEF more often, since it actually does damage now and some comps can't capitalize on barrel super well.
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>>155940846
no one cared who he was until he put on the apron
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New patch reaction from a shitter:
Naz is pretty cool. Spider quest and trait quest are easy to finish. Even I can hit spider jar without much trouble thanks to size increase. Fuck toad quest, but 2 charges is nice for wave clear. Resist is nice to get if you want to get in the fight more.
Malf is good now! So many HoT's on all the people! Innervate is massively OP with spell casters like Ming and Jaina. With skill range talent and lower cooldowns at high health, you become a massive spamming heal slut from a million miles away. No reason to take tranq anymore. Get blink at 20 and enjoy huge dreams when your team engages, just be sure to put a heal on yourself before you go in so you can walk out laughing. Roots are so easy to hit now too. Might be near top tier support now but still can't handle burst. Pair with Medivh possibly.
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>>155939403
I might buy and watch the Warcraft movie despite my better judgement.
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I specifically didn't play Naz even though I got him for free with the event, so I hope the changes are good. I love stupid quest talents.
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>>155942158
the movie is ok.
it expects you to know the warcraft lore as the movie does not really explain a lot of things.
if your not really into warcraft you probably won't enjoy it
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hes still a nigger, i seriously hope you people don't play as a fucking nigger, rework or not.
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>>155941297
gib talnts plz
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>>155941679
Malf has always been decent and underrated. And dream has been the better choice for a long time now.
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So we still need a Burning Legion rep, so who'd be best Kil'Jaeden, Archimonde, Mal'ganis?
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>>155942330
Dang. I thought it was mostly about Warcraft 2 stuff anyway, where the story was still pretty underdeveloped.

I started watching a long play of Warcraft 1 and found the change in tone compared to WoW pretty amusing.
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>>155942637
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>>155941659
Has the hitching post been set?
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>>155942818

EREDAR LORD OF THE TRIFLING GNOME
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>>155942637
Wilfred Fizzlebang.
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>>155942787
It's like a telling of Warcraft 1, with some of 2 and then some of it's own shit.
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>>155942404
fire>fire>BB>keg>fire>kick>heal

I really don't like the heal at 20. I was just trying it out that game since we were ahead at the time. It heals for one giant killer auto, minus the actual auto attack damage that comes with that. Wayy too small to consider taking over other options. Although, to be honest, Chen's 20 talents kinda suck outside of the SEF one. I want muh hardened shield back.
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>>155942942
But Warcraft 1 was about the most cartoonishly evil orcs imaginable cutting down lumber and pillaging.

I'll admit, I only watched like an hour of gameplay, but besides killing the chieftain's daughter after she ran away with ogres, I don't remember much of the story.
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>>155943251
Warcraft 1 had to do with the Orcs coming over from their world. Which is a big part of this movie.
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>>155942637
i'd be ok with mal'ganis or jarraxus
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>>155942974
how does he feel overall compared to before? less tanky? more damage?
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That new Superstition talent for Nazeebo is actually pretty good.
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>>155942974
I was thinking Another Round at 16 then you could flame breath twice after keg smash. Is that pointless?
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>>155925605
she is totally 3/8 of zagara
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Any easter eggs on Zarya's homescreen? All I've found are those Overwatch emblems you can click and Garden Terror passing in the background.
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>>155944403
But she is still 3/2 of gazlowe, r-right?
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>>155944936
Yes and she is like 2/5 of Artanis
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>>155945507
How many Chen's is that again?
1/5?
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>>155943693
More damage for sure. Losing amp heal at 4 does hurt his tankiness, but I think he's overall better.

>>155944102
It's possible, yeah, but that's 80 brew, and 90 if you kick in. That's a TON of brew. Another round is good in theory, but I haven't tried it in HL yet.
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>>155942974
Should we deem that the fire build?
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>Surprise Alarak buffs
Yes, yes!
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>>155945942
It's maximum fire for sure, but I wouldn't recommend it as a "set" build. Fire at 13 is situational, and fire at 1 isn't a 100% pick. I think ring of fire might be a 100% pick, though.
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>>155944881
>asks question
>answers own question in same post
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>>155945842
She wishes she was 1/5th a Chen.
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>>155946219
I went
fresh>fire>BB>keg>round>kick>heal

Felt OK but seems like something is missing
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>>155946405
Elemental Conduit is insane now.
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>>155946657
I even forgot that SEF existed because I got used to keb, but I need to try it next time.
>>155946367
I meant 1/15
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>>155946657
And by Elemental Conduit I mean storm, earth and fire and it's upgrade.
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>>155946824
The speed attack upgrade. It does so much damage now.
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My goal for second game with Alarak, less than 10 deaths. I know, I know, crazy.
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>>155946973
Need to check it out.
Was actually considering the keg upgrade because the other 2 seem kinda meh against a team with little cc
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Guys I don;t get it!

Zarya was supposed to be SHIT! All the memes told me that!
But just played a ranked match and some faggot picked her!
I told him he was fucking the game up for us, but he wouldn't respond!

And then he got fucking MVP! It said he had best damage taken and done in game! What the fuck?!, I thought tumblr cunt was supposed to be bad?!
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>>155949219
Still ETC.
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>Li Li on free rotation

never played her in my entire year of this game.
is she the easiest support to play with no skillshots?

what's her best build?
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>>155949376
i play 4 games with zarya, i got 2 mvp, and still feel that did nothing at all.
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Hots needs High Elves.

So when are we gonna get the most stylin motherfucking Elf in the the series?
Dar'Khan Drathir WHEN?
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>>155929162
i dont know why they put ravenous spirit in the game, he literally has no ability thats like that in D3. I feel they massively missed the Ball by not incorperating Fetishes and the poison dart. His entire build is fucking stupid because the only thing in his kit anyone ever consistently used in D3 was Gargantuan. Spiders frogs and zombiewall are all meme tier
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>>155949376
He must have been going into every single fight imaginable, because almost every single game I see Zarya she gets the lowest damage on the team.

Shes a warrior that not only excels at nothing, she's outclassed in just about every meaningful metric you can think of. Survivability, mobility, CC, damage; she's awful at all of these things. The only redeeming factor is her ultimate, which unlike a root, you can use mobility skills to get out of.

This shouldn't have even made it past testing.
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>>155949780
serpent build is pretty solid
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>>155949780
She basically is. The build is usually this one, unless you are going full damage.

Conjurer's, healing talents, Kung Fu Hustle and shrink ray.
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>>155950317
Wrong, Hots needs more dreadlords.

You don't even need to change his kit a lot
>carrion swarm Q
>Sleep W
>something like vampiric aoe aura buff E
>R summons a rock
>R2 ???

or D trait can be his own vampiric trait, too.
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rehgo is my new favorite hero
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>>155951393
R2 could be Banish but thats too similar to anub'araks cacoon
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Hm, could this be just a coincidence?
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How is this Nazeebo build?
>1 - Widowmakers
>4 - Blood Ritual
>7 - Dead Rush
>10 - Gargantuan
>13 - Depends, but I /really/ like Superstition
>16 - Spider Colony
>20 - Humongoid

I feel Blood Ritual is better than Big Voodoo since it gives you so much extra sustain that it's okay to forego higher stats. At level 20 I like having the Gargantuan up whenever I need it more than a slight increase in damage from Vile Infection. I think it's even more important now that the Gargantuan doesn't follow you around anymore.
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this thread severely lacks chromie
WHERE IS CHROMIE
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>>155953034
The only good chrome is the browser
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>>155951759
>some autist actually took the time to open paint, draw a dick, and post it on the 3rd worst moba's online safe space in a mongolian basket weaving forum
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Is Chen just totally busted?
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>>155953034
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How is ranked for you guys?

I'm not even playing because qm is just a bunch of retards noobing with Diablo, Sylvanas, The Butcher
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>>155953034
>WHERE IS CHROMIE
busy
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Now, anon, give me reasons why i would pick Zarya over other hero!
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>>155953764
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>>155953034
We had a new bit of art in the other thread, but people didn't know how scapulas work.
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>>155949376
>he thinks the MVP mechanic highlights the actual MVP of the match
haha no, this shit is just like the matchmaking system
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>>155953975
>being so salty that you didn't get MVP you call it shit.
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>>155949376
>Reghar heals everybody but when shit goes down he is the first one to back off
>Ends up with zero deaths
>We lost in a comeback tho
>He gets MVP
>SEE FUCK YOU FAGS!
>mfw
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>>155954098
>get no deaths and/or high damage taken
>wow MVP
Have you not seen the numbers behind MVP system? It's amusing, but it's shit and you can't take it seriously.
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>>155953764
More...
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>>155954119
This. I play support and never die, it's the easiest way to get MVP. Just don't die if you care about not winning and getting internet points.
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>>155955218
>>155954119
I thought everyone agreed that no deaths is basically the best benchmark for a good player in the game, with everything else being easily padded.
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>>155954098
at what point in my comment do you get the feeling that I am supposedly salty?
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>>155956140

no deaths is the benchmark for MVP points, but I don't think it applies to warriors.
shouldn't you be first in first out as the initiator and damage soaker?

if the warrior on my team dies a lot but we're even in kills and everyone else besides him has low or zero deaths, that's a good warrior right?
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>>155956140
No deaths is good, but with the MVP system heavily relying on your death counter to determin the 'winner' encourages cowardly and/or passive gameplay that might be detrimental for your overall performance and impact on the match.
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>people still talking about mvp system
"give it a fucking skip button already" is the only thing that is to be said about this annoying piece of shit feature.
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>>155956614
No. What should happen is when the MVP is announced they should say their little start line while the character's theme plays in the background and party favors fall from the top.
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>>155956614
I didn't mind it.
Then they made some gritty old geezer say "MVP" after every game.
Now it annoys me.
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>>155956351
no deaths while still contributing to fights is good

but you shouldn't avoid important teamfights or ignore objectives (which your team could otherwise contest) just to keep your 0death score
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why is Soul Feast the most popular regen talent on diablo when it only gives him like 12 hp/second at 100 souls?
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Also about commendations, since we talking about MVP

Do they store somewhere? do you get some kind of reward after getting X comms in lifetime or in a match? or they are just to give you good feelings at the end of the match?

>>155956140
Yea, but at the same time sometimes you need to die to get a extremely valuable trade, so you will get punished by the MVP system for possibly doing the play that will swing the game for your team
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>>155956853
Murky Diablo is best Diablo build.
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Thoughts on Artanis?

Tried him today, actually got decent results in qm, I liked his playstyle, but the price is still to high for me, is he really competitive enough to be worth 10k?
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>download game for the first time
>have Tracer already
>play a few rounds as her
>do fine
>notice she's listed as a hard character

for what purpose
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>>155956905
what's murky build? the 60 soul resurrect plus the one that gives one soul per 4 seconds?
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>>155956956
It's not a hard game
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>>155956949
Not really. He's pretty easy to kit around, and even easier to CC down. They never really fixed his major problem lack of early game.

I love him, he's my most played hero and he's really fun. But he's not great.
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>>155956956
>attacks while moving, 2 escape skills, easy heroic
>hard

#JustBlizzardThings
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>>155957004
Yes than you take Apoc, and the apoc when you die talent. They nerfed it when they nerfed battle mom, but it's still decent. Diablo dies really easy anyway.
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>>155957062
>>155957010

Okay, thanks. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something more "difficult" than active reloading.
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>>155957034
Yea, thats what I felt too, mostly because he lacks a gap-closer, if enemies get too close to you they will kill you because you don't have any mobility since your first skill just makes you go back and forth
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Or, you know you could just play Dota.
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>>155957179
He design is once he's in a fight, he's in the fight. There is no escape for him. You either win or go down fighting.

The problem is they made it really to easy to kit him. It's why Zealot Charge is pretty much a must take and a huge power spike for him.
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>>155956956
she's squishy and shitters who position badly or waste all their blinks will die
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>>155956853
He needs regen.
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>>155869274
the guy who voices varian retired by the way
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>>155957270
I don't need to fuel a sense of superiority over people, so DOTA's "everyone is bad at DOTA unless they are MLG" kind of bothers me.
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>>155957465
>Teleport has 2 charges
>You got a skill that if you fuck up press E and have a second try at escaping

No dude, a shitter can do alright with Tracer, a fucking gaylord double-nigger faggot is the kind of people who still plays bad with Tracer
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>>155957515
but it's such a shitty amount of regen

12hp/s at 100 souls
6 hp/s at 50
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WHY ARE 10 YEAR OLDS ALLOWED TO PLAY GAMES FUCKKKKKKKKK
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Chen is so fucking good, holy shit

He's a fat Illidan, he's an anti-mage diver, he's a brusier, he's a tank, he can do anything!
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>>155929368
this art looks great. Witch Doctor+gargantuan adventures out in a swamp is a movie I'd watch
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>>155959706
Fuck you talking about, all he can do is jungle and splitpush, also he's a literal nigger.
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>>155959706
Time for nerfs then next patch
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Can anyone recommend me a good portrait icon? I look like trash
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>>155960315
> all he can do is jungle and splitpush
for some reason hots kiddies can't micro despite their game sharing a launcher with starcraft?

did you try murdering the FUCK out of your safe/mid lane at level 1 with a dark troll or that busted as fuck purge satyr that gets like 1000 hp now with the chen reworks?
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>>155960498
use the default icon and the pleb horse
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>>155960498
here you go m8
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Male barb, female monk and D2 Sorceress when
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>>155961246
>more diablo trash
must we go through this every thread?
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>>155961246
male barb is already in m80
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>>155961483
What are the other options?
More obscure starcraft shit from legacy of the void?
More fucking wow promo shit?
More overwatch?
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Is Auriel any good now ? Whats the current meta for supports ?
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>>155962365
Not-Li Li is the meta.
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>>155962345
The way this game is made is to accommodate warcraft characters, and there is still a staggering amount left to add. There are some SC units that could make the game as well. Not to mention how much better characters those are than your bland generic diablo demons/angles and classes.
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>>155961246
>adding fucking different gender variations of D3 classes into the game
>over fucking Baal, Belial, Mephisto, Andariel, Duriel, Blood Raven, Rakanishu, Dark Wanderer, Maltheal, Imperius or Izual
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>>155962365
depends on your rank
below diamond lili is meta (other than mandatory liming and kael most of the people go for autoattack heroes and lili can fuck them up with her blind, also no one will ever block her ulti), auriel is meh (you have to count on your teammates to charge your energy and that's a big no no)

in diamond (where people are SUPPOSED to know their shit) you switch the two of them
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So how is Zarya?
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>>155963485
Half of those are not even real characters
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>>155963019
Aside from Garrosh, Zul'jin and Varian, there's not much else from warcraft we need.
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>>155963613
Not nearly as good as she could be
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>>155963648
Where are Kel'thuzad, Varimathras, Kil'jaiden, Grom, Deathwing, Vashj, Mekkatorque and Maiev?
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>>155963648
And 60% of the hero types they still haven't added from WC III
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>>155961246
>female monk
Fucking waifu-fags.
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>>155963783
>Where are Kel'thuzad,
We have enough scourge rep.
>Varimathras
Lol who?
>Kil'jaiden
Sagares would be cooler
>Grom
Garrosh skin at best
>Deathwing
2bigProbably will be added
>Vashj
Who cares about naga?
>Mekkatorque
Being reworked into reverse Gazlowe
>Maiev?
Maybe next year
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>>155964151
>We have enough scourge rep.
>Scourge in HotS
>Arthas and .....nobody else
At least you tried.
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>>155923958
ruskies here, it's not us.
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>>155964228
>tfw Anub is so bad that people don't even remember him anymore.
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>>155964228
anub'arak
at least you tried.
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>>155964228

DREADLORD AND LICH WHEN?
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>>155964303
He probably enjoys it.
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>>155964382
Maybe in this century!
Get hype!
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>>155964228
>>155964303
>>155964374
>nobody remembers stitches
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>>155964473

Just a Pudge ripoff and inferior in every single way.
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>>155964228
>Sitches isn't scourge
>Anub'arack isn't scourge

So you're gonna kill yourself now, right?
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>>155964473
>>155964576
>Stitches
>Scourge
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>>155964565
>blizzard ripped off their own game
you're embarrassing, kid
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>>155964473
>>155964576
Stitches bears absolutely no relation to the Scourge.
He was created by some crazy alchemist in Darkshire.
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So is this game fun and alive?

I played from Alpha until the release of Kael'thas and that spider map. Has the game changed for better or for worse?
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>>155964839
It's doing fine.
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>Widowmaker skin for Nova
What did they mean by this?
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>>155964721
>>155964634
>Stiches
>lore

Come on faggot he's just a OC warcraft unit like brightwing and lunara
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>>155964892
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Stitches
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Stitches

Stitches has been around since vanilla senpai.
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>>155964721
You're right, but other than his name, he's a generic undead unit who might as well be fighting for the scourge.
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>>155964989
Then why did they go with Stitches then over Patchwerk who is obviously just a generic Scourge abomination.
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>>155964989
>all abominations are Scourge
Wow, racist much?
Do you also collectively blame all Orcs for sacking Stormwind or supporting the Legion?
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>>155964839
I quit dota for this, it's way more fun and less rage inducing. It's definitely alive, I think it's the 9th most watched Twitch (of course behind the likes of dota, lol, wow, overwatch, etc.)
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>>155965120
patchwerk is fucking compared to other abominations
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>>155965182
Yeah I kinda do.
They're all ugly green bastards
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>>155965212
you accidentally your whole sentence
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>>155965182
Only good orc is a dead orc
- Dad Proudmoore
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>>155965212
fucking gigantic ***** lol
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>>155964968
Vanilla wow?

"Sitches" is the abomination unit from WC3, even Pudge from dota1 is older than stitches.
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was an assfaggot dota 2 purist when this game came out, always mocked it. grew to eventually hate dota 2, trying this game 2 years after quitting it

actually having a lot of fun. who's with me lads?
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>>155965227
>ugly green bastards
Now that's just racist.
They also exist in black and brown color variations.
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>>155964151
>Deathwing
>2bigProbably will be added

He's gonna be the map itself, I guarantee it.
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>>155950317
Nope.
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>Falstad skin on sale
>it's not pirate Falstad
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How's valla after yesterday's patch?
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>>155964151
>Being reworked into reverse Gazlowe
It's okay as long as he gets his mecha suit.
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>>155965362
shitter

>>155965798
a little better
>>
dead site dead board dead gaem
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Blackthorne for blizzcon
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>>155965836
He will.
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>>155965852
i can help you get dead too if you know what i'm referring to.
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>this is fine
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https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/54sg2d/problems_with_the_new_mvp_screen_giving_me_leaver/d84kiw5

>We're adding a "Leave" button to the MVP screen and, at the same time, making sure it doesn't mark you as a leaver if you exit during the sequence. Coming soon.
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>>155966765
>MVP screen

15 seconds of watching salty fucks voting for themselves.

You can always tell too, when someone is at 7 votes, and that one fuck waits until the last second to vote for himself when he realizes no one else will.

Because "Soaked 61% of team damage* is not something to be proud of if you have 12 fucking deaths.
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>>155967045
this
absolute cancer, if you read up on reddit you'll find out how much the playerbase actually worships this mvp system.
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>>155966765
>instead of adding any purpose to this screen they instead turn it into an optional thing
i can't say i'm surprised
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Someone shop Zarya with her gun shooting wet noodles.
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>>155967376
ramen dyke?
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JESUS WHY IS ZARyA SO SHIT ITS LIKE PLAYING 4V5 IF SHES ON YOUR TEAM
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>>155965362
This is exactly me after quitting dota in TI4, EG winning left a bad taste in my mouth.
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>>155967119
>>155967045

mfw I never vote, MVP screen is my pee or cigarette break.
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>>155967763
just like overwatch then
>>
>Quit heroes eons ago
>Revamp to Chen

IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME IT'S TIME
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>>155967376
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>>155968234
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>>155968234
kek'd
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>>155968234
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>>155968234
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>>155968234
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>>155968234
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Now there a lot of Chens on my platinum hell with 10 deaths per game
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>>155968234
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>Chen revamp
Been waiting for almost a year for this.
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>>155968234
so who's gonna send this to blizzard
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>ruin chen etc and nazeebo in one fell swoop
It's OK blizzard, I've got other games to play
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>>155968775
So what changed with chen?

best change this patch was

>EMMMM VEEEE PEEEEE
>>
>The reduced Battleground pool will remain in effect until the Machines of War event concludes during the week of October 17.

6 maps for 20 days, why do they do this, why not open all the maps
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>>155968985

Man, blizzard surgically removing the shittiest players in one patch,

Shame that when they destroyed Nova the players were too retarded to realize they were trying to be removed.
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>>155967045
See I occasionally will give a vote to random enemy team members I think did well, with no way to tell who the votes are coming from it can look salty. Not a fan of the system, especially because it does LITERALLY NOTHING.
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>>155969189
>etc
>shitty
get fucked
Plus nazeebo has been bad for a very long time because he had such a high win rate for ages. And Chen may have not have been a good hero but easily the most fun.
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>>155969112
MVP BOYS
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>>155963613
I wonder if we'll ever get Hearthstone Medivh has a skin for Medivh.

You could make the barrier a disco ball.
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>>155968812
Do it fucboi.
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>>155969321
>Xul and Chromie vote for themselevs

Nice job, what do you take on4 and 16? I was thiking sustained anomaly at 4 with double singularity spike at 16 might be cool, but I usually go gathering power and then either double or cleave, only stoneskin if I'm behind.
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>>155969503
That would be pretty based desu senpai.
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>>155969321
wow do you have the stadistics of the match?

That might have been an awesome zera game
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>>155969321
>Xul did what a xul should do
>Feels he deserves a vote for showing up
>Chromie didn't miss every shot all game long
While it's nice to see a Chromie that did something, killing heroes is all she is meant to do.
These saltlords felt doing the minimum expected of the role they chose is worth a vote.
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>>155969676
>loli
>tits
kys
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>>155970443
umm, have you never heard of oppai loli??
>>
nazeebo is a fucking coon and if you own him you should off yourself cause youre a coon lover
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>>155969713
master warp blade and rending cleave. if the full build matters i went greater cleave > mwb > void slash > shadow assault > giant killer >rending cleave > rewind

>>155969920
20k 15a 5d iirc off the top of my head
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>>155970772
This. Also any orcs, they are green coons
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>>155971296

Also Night elves, tauren, goblins, zerg and angels.
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>>155971296
>>155972174
no, those are fantasy races, while nazibo is a literal ape nigger
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>>155972286
>Angels
>not real

Look at this fuckboi, going to hell
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>>155960498
use this
>>
>Butcher free week
cya next week
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No one asked for zarya, she's not even popular or liked in her own game, why port it over here makes no sense. If it was a popular hero like reaper or cod76 I'd get it, but zarya why
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>>155972609
No one asked you what you think you fat fuck
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>>155972630
Tumblr is that way, sweetie >>>>>
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>>155972609

Because reaper is going to be a Valla skin, 76 is going to be a Raynor skin, and Lucio is already a brightwing skin
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>>155972609
cool mechanics that happen to translate to hots very poorly despite her ult
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>>155968234
brilliant, i expect to see it in reddit soon
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>>155972951
Valla's master skin already looks like reaper woth horns.
I could see him being a seperate hero, he's compared to Valla only because of his ulti. And Zarya somehow got her ulti to differ from Gazlowe's, same can be done here. And Reaper's attacks work completely different than Valla's, he'd be much slower but with bigger punch. Sorta like un-sieged Hammer works.
>>
What would you recommend I buy next if I enjoy playing Azmodan + Uther + sometimes Malfurion?

Was thinkgen about either Gul'Dan or Abathur.
Since I basically spam Azmodan every single game, I'm fine with either of the two to be just ok-ish.
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>>155973640
Abathur is really unique and fun, give it a try. Guldan is pretty vanilla boring but has the lifetap mechanic, I don't dig it cause I prefer to play safe
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>>155972609
Honestly? I think just getting her out of the way.

They'll want more Overwatch heroes. People like Reaper, Winston, D.va, McCree or Mei will generate interest. If they released Zarya when there are already a lot of Overwatch characters she'd be even more meh. At least now she is the first post-Tracer character.

I just think the dev team were as uninterested in Zarya as we all are. Tracer got a lot of hype and marketing, Zarya not even close.

Hell, Tracer was the return to character trailers but Zarya doesn't even get featured in the event trailer as more than an afterthought. Alarak gets lines and a fight but Zarya doesn't do anything.
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>>155973959
Yup. Thematically it'd have made a ton more sense to include D.va in a Starcraft event.

If you know Blizzard is going to force you to add most if not all Overwatch heroes, you'd get the most boring one out of the way as soon as possible.

People will be excited for D.va no matter what, she can be her own release, nobody gives a shit about Zarya
>>
https://m.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/54rr4q/update_and_kudos_to_blizzard_should_i_let_my_kids/

Literal 8 yr Olds play this game, and lots of them. Time to quit guys.
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>>155969186
so you get the new maps more often retard
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just how bad are Diablo and Azmo? i want to play them w/ friends but i don't want to pick them if they're unplayable
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>>155974728
>reddit
>posting from mobile
>hates children

off yourself asap
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>>155974728
Protecting your kids from shit talking is bad parenting.
Teaching your kids to be a master bantz slinger is good parenting.
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>>155964473
Stitches should have been Patchwerk.
More memorable Abomination that was actually a part of a faction and boss that all players saw and was fucking scary vs
A bumbling meme idiot only one faction gets to face and is only really remembered because people liked to troll with him.
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>>155975086
did you miss the announcement of the patchwerk skin for stitches?
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>>155975174
Skins are worthless for 90% of the playerbase.

Now if they were to introduce a drop / crafting system, or literally just give us 1-2 skins a week / month on rotation to buy for gold, then I'd care.
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>>155975297
look, it's patchwerk!
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>>155975297
>crafting systems

NO

>>155975448
patchwerk playtime!
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>>155964839
its changed for worse. its very clear blizzard has little semblance of an idea what they are doing beyond trying to make the game fun for casuals, it seems like the exact opposite of their SCII approach where the game was balanced for pros.
The 10% mount speed nerf was the nail in the coffin for wrecking the game.
In terms of balance they seem to constantly be reworking and retuning older heroes and nerfing the meta hotness heroes
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I'm having a really great time with Alarak shitting on all those ranged that think they are out of range of Telekinesis.

Especially Shit-ming.
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>>155974989
Honestly, don't know much about Diablo right now, but Azmo is in a decent spot, although he's very underrated.

Your early game is shit, so what you want to be doing is hitting enemy heroes on other lanes with your Q so that you get your 25 stacks in time for black pool, or alternatively just your wave + the enemy hero at the same time.

Come mid-game, when the objectives activate, you'll want to be pushing and just applying pressure everywhere. Your D skill is global, so you can literally be pushing 2-3 lanes while helping out in teamfights by chunking the enemy team with black pooled Qs from across the map.

That hero is all about pressure, soaking up XP and poking / finishing off targets from across the map.
Here's the build I use in most of my games:
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/39-azmodan#UTUNWTTNsNfNgNnAA

You can also use
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/39-azmodan#WNraVTSNVNZNeNnAA
if you don't mind clunkier globe damage, but way better 1v1. This one might actually be better than the first, not sure.
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>>155974989
Akaijii play Azmodan a lot on his stream and always wreck house
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>>155976886
>t. akaijii
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>>155976998
Only one person would post about akaijii here and that is akaijii

t. akaijii
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>>155977229
>>155976998
>>155976886
Don't bully Akaijii!!!!1111!!!!one!!!!! >.<
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nice game
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>>155977829
probably the game has trouble finding players as bad as you t b h
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>>155977829
Come back when you reach the 1000second landmark
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Zarya is fun! FUN!

also a good model with a memey face
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>>155980971
she is probably the least fun hero to play in the entire roster

underwhelming
unrewarding
ineffective
zero impact

what made you post this blatant lie
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>>155977690
I'll bully akaijii how much I want and you can't stop me!
__________t. akaijii
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>>155981158
i think you forgot about malfurion
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>>155981374
i think you haven't played the new malfurion
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>>155981191
I'm akaijii

>t,akaijii
>t.bronze
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Battlefield of Eternity and Garden of Terror are the two worst maps in the game.

Proove me wrong
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>>155981767
infernal shrines and tower of doom are worse
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>>155981767
agree on garden but I think that BoE is the better of the 2 diablo maps
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>>155981767
those aren't towers of doom
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>Current year
>Still no Valeera
>Still no Vol'jin
>Still no Andwin
>Still no Alleria
>Still no Rhonin
>Still no Deathwing, Nefarian, Onyxia, Alexstrasza, Ysera, Nozdormu or Malygos ( all in human form preferably )
>Still no Prophet Velen
>Still no Mal'Ganis
>Still no Jaraxxus
>Still no Kil'Jaeden
>Still no Khadgar
>Still no Sargeras
>Still no Morgl
>Still no Baine or Caerne
>Still no Ragnaros, Neptunos or Alkir

Instead we get more sci-fi and starcraft/overwatch bullshit ( we fallout now boys )

>mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azvI1-QLd2o

At least give me some cute OW waifus instead of fucking Zarya


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azvI1-QLd2o
>>
>>155980971

Just played a few matches as her, expected the worst. She's actually pretty okay, in the thick of the battle, decent shields, decent cd with the right talents and decent dmg. Probably needs a little buff but it's no way as bad as the bronzies here like to think.
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>>155982738
It's almost as if Warcraft isn't the only Blizzard franchise featured in HotS.
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>>155973046
So sad. A ranged warrior that actually is ranged sounds fun.

>>155972609
She's very popular in Overwatch, due to her performance.
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>>155982738
>andwin
>caerne
>neptunos
>alkir
also
>he wants dragons but in their human form
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>>155982738
>( all in human form preferably )
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>>155983854
>wants a dragon thousands of times larger than a human walking around
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>>155982738
>Deathwing, Nefarian, Onyxia, Alexstrasza, Ysera, Nozdormu or Malygos ( all in human form preferably )
Why would you want something so horrible.
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>>155983713
>Not liking those chars just because they aren't overpowered or super popular
>Wanting a Dragon at full power and size scale, which would make not only problematic game-wise for obvious reasons but also for lore reasons

Deathwing on his pure form would rape Tracer just by respiring
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>>155984016
why the fuck not
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>>155984298
>Deathwing on his pure form would rape Tracer just by respiring
Senpai please, power levels don't matter in HotS.
Or do you seriously think it's canon that a baby Murloc can kill Thrall by whacking him over the head with a fish or that Illidan gets blinded by a teenage panda throwing sand in his eyes.
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>>155984298
I like those characters, I was pointing out that you don't know how to spell their names.
Also
>muh lore in muh moba
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>>155984478
>deathwing sneezes
>VICTORY
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>>155984016
>who is The Butcher
>who is Azmodan
they've already proven that they can downscale immensely large heroes fairly well, so your point is null and void

plus this is barring the fact that the Aspects' dragon form designs are infinitely superior to their human form designs
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>>155984016
You know Deathwing is going to be a map mechanic. Like he's going to show up cause a Cataclysm and change the map.
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>>155984626
why not an entire map dedicated to fighting on Deathwing's back
>Deathwing feels players on his right side, he's about to roll right!
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>>155984185
>blonde cartoon girl in rain.gif

I'm fucking diying right now
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post stale/old hots memes
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>>155985624
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>>155981767
Weird way to spell bhb
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>>155985946
cringe
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>>155985624
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why would they give zarya that ugly piece of shit buyable skin and not her amazing siberian skin from OW
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>>155985624
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>>155986329
how the fuck did he get dehaka?
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>>155985624
Blizzcon 2016 for sure!
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>>155973640
try tyrande, rexxar, or sgt hammer
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>>155986329
>sheeky forums
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Do you guys like Tracer
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>>155985624
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Why do people want Valeera over Maiev?
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>>155986737
Her animations are fucked up, her splash looks like dogshit, her voice makes me want to kill myself.
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>>155986887
To fap
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>>155986887
Varian = Maiev > Valeera >>>>> Blademaster
This is how the next four heroes coming out should be
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>>155986918
Rude

>>155987960
I'm fine with this
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>>155987960
Why the hell do you not want tastuu my barudo
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>>155987101
Vanessa and Garona are cuter though
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>>155968985
>Chen
>Ruined
What?
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>>155988080
>He wants yet another stealth hero that all the bronze russian flock to
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>>155988438

Give blizz some credit.

They aren't ever going to add another stealth hero.
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Do you guys like Li LI
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When will Leoric get a rework?
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>>155988080
Because it isn't currently known how are they going to import him into the game, could be complete shit.
Also it's a fucking orc.
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>>155988563
He doesn't need one, he's in a good place,

If you think he's bad I have some new for you.
It is you who is the bad
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>>155984547
>I'm actually very smart, thats why I want large scale chars whose real form would never fit in the map anyways instead of using human form that would benefit the game in 2 different angles, how can you guys be so dumb my idea is obviously better
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>>155988758
holy shit maximus triggerus
just admit your autism senpai
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>>155984579
>Implying they couldn't just re-design the human forms

You guys really have some dragon fetish, just let it go

Also Alex human form would be waifu material
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>>155989137
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That ult from your favorite hero that you never use
How would you make it useful?
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>>155989437
fuck the bottom right line is good
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>>155988269
If Garona didn't come up for the movie, I doubt she ever will.
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WHAT TASK IS THERE
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>>155989587
Uther's Divine Storm. By making it global, obviously.
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where is my new IN DEVELOPMENT video???
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>>155990378
in development
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>>155990378
samuro is in development but he is invisible, so theres no video, you dumbo

;_;
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>>155984804
I see you are new here

Please enjoy your stay
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>>155988758
see
>>155984579
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I was thinking who would be the best Orc warrior, since we still don't have one, and it suddenly hit me,

Kingslayer Orkus, the bravest champion of the Horde.
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>the easter egg on braxis shows samuro fighting in a cyber world
>yfw samuro is released alongside a revamped cyber world map
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>>155989587
Uther,
make divine storm also heal like it did in WoW and lower the CD considerably.
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>>155988694
This is wrong; Leoric is nowhere near the level of other warriors and his kit/talent choices are all lackluster. He very much could use some improvement.
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>>155990743

Not really, and to just show, he is picked as solo tank in fucking Korea.
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>>155990628
> not Broxigar the Red
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I want Huln Highmountain as a hero, his only skill should be AAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
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>>155990558
See
>>155989216
>bonus bw
>>155935269


Just take the simple way, no need to reinvent the fucking wheel when the solution is at your sight

>also comparing Butcher, Azmodan, or even Diablo's size to any of the dragons

>mfw people keep insisting on this point when there is a better solution in every single possible way to look at

You furries with your dragon-fetish need to keep your dick out when discussing
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Attention /hotsg/ start picking Malf, he is crazy fucking good right now!
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>>155991335
>You furries with your dragon-fetish need to keep your dick out when discussing
i think they're already doing that anon
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>>155991408
He's always been good.
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>>155991605
nice mem
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Hammer or Abathur?
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>yfw gravitron surge is literally a worse mosh pit

>>155991973
hammer
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>>155991973
may i suggest a knife through the neck
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>>155986215
her siberian skin from OW is shit though, and her 90's superhero cartoon skin in HoTS is amazing
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>>155991408
Don't tell me who to pick you piece of shit

>tfw Sylv, Diablo, Butcher and Jaina in the free week

cancer everywhere
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>>155992117
>Not picking Gul'dan.
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>>155992026
every spell is worse than moshpit anon
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>>155992316
but it's LITERALLY a worse mosh pit
it does the exact same thing, but takes longer to start up, doesn't last as long, and doesn't stun them
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OOGA BOOGA WHERE DA WHYTE WOMYN AT
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>>155992452
That's why I take the other ult. Only a 45 sec cooldown and has some decent utility.
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>>155868958

Who else won a Machines of War bundle on the Gamespot giveaway? I got one, felt so lucky. Lovely skins.

Also, tfw your Tracer bee pic was completely ignored.
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>>155992452
And doesn't make you selfstunned for 4 sec, doesn't require you to be in center of enemy team and can't be canceled, yeah
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>>155993113
What giveaway?
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>>155993180

http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/22/13021046/heroes-of-the-storm-thunder-guard-zarya-giveaway

https://www.destructoid.com/contest-heroes-of-the-storm-machines-of-war-bundle--387392.phtml

Zarya one is dead though, and the Gamespot one as well. Try the Destructoid one, there are only 20.
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>>155993445
>MS paint
Can I submit the 2 bees that I made?
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>>155993619
send them the tracer bee and your victory will be assured
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>>155991335
>See: more of "muh dragon fetish!!!" "BW is totally an appropriate scale of Blizzard's ability to create dragon heroes even though faerie dragons are incredibly small!!!"
wow
sure dismantled my point there

>>also comparing Butcher, Azmodan, or even Diablo's size to any of the dragons
butcher is actually massive as fuck in Diablo 3, and if you're going to retreat into an argument about proportions then you should consider the fact D3 Azmodan is almost as wide in diameter as one of the dragon aspects (minus their tail which probably wouldn't have any collision in-game either)

in fact, i don't understand why you would bring up Diablo when his model is literally the exact same size as it was in his boss fight in Diablo 2

>You furries with your dragon-fetish need to keep your dick out when discussing
>m-muh dragon furries!!! i want waifus!!!
get this
maybe, just maybe, instead of getting a repeat of Chromie, people such as myself and others would like to see actual dragons in the game since it's already been proven that large-as-fuck heroes can be scaled down effectively provided they're not too wide
crazy thought, I know
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>>155991335
Brightwing is actually quite large in WoW
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>>155993924
dude stop replying to him, it's a lost cause
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>>155993924
You sound like a person that wanted Ridley in smash.

Anduin for hots next pls.
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>just got another "you got a free hero!" thing
>pick thrall again
>didn't get him again
is thrall bugged?
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>>155994023
did they change his size after making him an order hall follower?
because if not he should still be small as fuck in comparison to regular dragons
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>>155993924
>Wanting a puny Dragon Aspect when Old Gods are possible.
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>come back
>i haven't even reinstalled yet
>i already got the dosh for zarya's bundle

i probably made a mistake but who gives a shit?
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>>155994368
yeah he shows up in the druid order hall, not dragon sized but much larger than other fae dragons. Pretty accurate to the hots size
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>>155993113
Entered two of them, won nothing.
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>>155995071
Zarya is garbage. Only place to go up from here is up right?
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>>155995475
well, they say chromie is garbage too but she's my favorite hero

this either means people are wrong or i have shit taste
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>>155994421
Ma nigga
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>>155995652
You can have fun with garbage heroes. Most of my favorite heroes are garbage. They are still garbage though.
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Why won't they just delete QM entirely?

Is the playerbase really big enough to support 4 different queues?
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>>155996258
I mean I can play my shit heroes in Ranked if you want?
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>>155994368
>>155995145
Brightwing is a girl.
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>>155995652
a hero can be fun but still weak

zarya doesn't seem very fun though; her abilities feel very low-impact

in OW she's "bad damage at 0 charge, asskicking shitwrecker at 100", but hots hates the idea of anyone other than an assassin doing damage so instead she's "sort of ok damage at 100 charge, awful useless shit anywhere lower"
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>>155993924
Face it, Deathwing is too big for brawl.
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>>155996716
I find dunking people with her q fun. That's about it.
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>>155993924
And you sure destroyed my arguments too, so we are even

>Well we can work on remake of the human versions and make life easier for everyone
> I WANT GIANT EASY TARGETTABLE DRAGUNS
>yea but, this would require a lot of time and resources and we don't know how easy would be to make skins of them later, specially because they are very detailed already in dragon form and....
>I DON'T CARE GIMME DRAGOONS!!!!!!

also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4Y7ztznKc

Thats exactly why there is a moment in wow you fight literally on his back, just his body already is a battlefield for heroes to fight in

so, yea I know butcher and Az both are huge, but they simply aren't DW level


Maybe the dragons could've a ult when they change to their original forms for a limited amount of time?
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>>155997838
they dont have to be giant anon

like he said, they can just... create a dragon model but scale it down to make it hero sized?
like they did with azmodan?
or tychus's odin?
or cho'gall?
or the siege tank?
or the butcher?
or kerrigan's ultralisk?
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>>155890901
Thrall. The second they start pushing a lane just go in and blow them down to 30%. Clear your lane. Once he uses his well and comes back out just blow him up again. At that point he has to Hearth and you have all the time in your world to work towers.

I think the only counters to thrall 1v1 in a lane might be jimmy, tychus, an Illidan who can really time his abilities based on what Thrall has casted/still has to cast

TLDR: Green Jesus
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>>155997838
Even if you did that ult thing DW is still way too big. You could do that for one of the aspects maybe but DW like you said is far too big.

You could maybe have part of him in as a stage boss or event but his head alone would take up half a stage. .
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>>155997838
>Big Models.

One of the reasons I love facing Azmo as Gul'dan. He can't run away from Corruption. His body is to big. That and he spends mana to give me health.
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>>155894418
Butcher is a LAST pick/2nd to last pick option ONLY. Butcher/Zera/Tychus are my mains because they're last pick niche picks
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>>155997613
not if the other dragon aspects can be downscaled properly, because at that point all you would need to do is just downscale Deathwing to the regular dragon aspects' size and work from there
>>155997838
>yea but, this would require a lot of time and resources
any more time and resources than it would take to make a hero like Cho'Gall or Azmodan that are already big and would likely have the same kind of hitboxes that the dragon heroes would have?

>we don't know how easy would be to make skins of them later, specially because they are very detailed already in dragon form and....
>implying that they would actually have to put any effort into making master skins and that they couldn't just make the 10 euro skin be so that they give whatever dragon hero they released a skin in the form of another dragon (ergo, Alexstrasza gets an Onyxia skin, Malygos gets a Nefarian skin) and be
done with it

>so, yea I know butcher and Az both are huge, but they simply aren't DW level
as i said in the above post
downscale Deathwing to regular dragon aspect size and work from there; he doesn't have any weird proportions that would make downscaling him look awkward so there's no real issue here

>Maybe the dragons could've a ult when they change to their original forms for a limited amount of time?
more odins?
i'd rather not but if that's the only way their dragon forms would be incorporated into the game then okay
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>>155998163
None of them are that absurdly large.

Making something 16 feet into being 8 feet isn't the same. An Ultralisk the size of one of deathwing's hands
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>>155997838
I'm pretty sure the odin is bigger than anything if it were to scale. DW is like a few small houses the odin is the size of a sky scraper
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>>155953764

>Not posting the colored one

But yeah. Chromie's lacking in art, presence and height, which ain't bad.
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Why the fuck would they add a Plague of Toads quest talent when Plague of Toads fucking sucks and only hits something 40% of the time because of how fucking slow they move? Why would they not increase their movement speed?
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>>155998661
>DW is like a few small houses

He uses stormwind keep as a foot rest
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>>155998995
They also got rid of the damage the toads do.
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>>155953764
>>155998821
Where's the full image? I know it's out there
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I think the main reason why a scaled down Deathwing would be stupid is that that is the only thing he is known for.

Azmodan and Butcher may have been big and were scaled down significantly to fit the game, but Azmo has his general theme with troops and whatnot and Butcher has meat.

DW's only claim to fame and the only thing that makes him interesting is being big. If you take him and make him small, what do you have left? Just a scaley warrior thing that can breath fire? Something that could legit pass for a Diablo skin?

What's the point?
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>>155963613
Really really bad
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Right now nazeebo cant 1v1 anyone. I mean literally anyone can win against Naz 1v1.
Chromie, hammer, whatever.
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I bought Alarak and I literally am unable to do anything even remotely decent. Every game I played as him I fed, and not like "oh man, our team keeps getting wiped, but we can still win". No like, I fucking try to fight someone, anyone and just die.

Is this terminal? He just got buffed too.

I am pretty sure I'm not engaging correctly. Thrall and Illidan and Butcher seem so easy in comparison.
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>>156000520
But wait till lvl 16 and you get the gas chamber.
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I'm not even asking for Deathwing but why the hell would anyone want his cosplay human form?
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>>156000551
You doing his combo correctly? His lightning only heals against heroes and if you self cast telekinesis it pushes you in whatever way you are looking. It's a good escape tool.
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>Starcraft maps are the only good ones

>WELL IT'S ANOTHER MAP ABOUT THE RAVENLORD

Fuck off already.
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>>156000819
>Liking Nuketown or Haunted Holdout.
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>>156000520
but his 1v1 damage is higher than pre-rework? frogs do more damage (albeit over time), spiders do more damage if you hit them...
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>>156001057
If you hit all 3 and over 6 seconds. Toads are complete shit right now, and now he doesn't poison heroes.


They made Naz worse. It's hilarious.
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>>156000551
are you TK'ing yourself into fights or something dumb instead of sticking with your team and pulling people towards you?
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>>156001129
>>156001129
>>156001129
new bread
migrate whenever
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>>155999126
It's all over the course of 6 seconds.

S I X S E C O N D S
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>>156001436
Your right. That's way better than bursting people down. I'm a fool.
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>>156001057
Spiders are extremely easy to dodge.
Now you must perfectly aim all 3 abilities to do some damage.
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