/mbg/ - Mount & Blade General

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First for Prima Nocta is the birthright of every Noble.

>>155791754
>Can you make them have limited quantity like grenade?
what like how grenades are consumed on use? doesn't work for ammo unfortunately
annoying because if i did implement them then they'd just be better than grenades and there'd be no point in getting grenades

>>155791909
Make it a weaker AOE or something maybe?
Less shots in one inventory slot? Make it really expensive?

>>155791847
so I finally got a monster pc, what are some good mods with giant army sizes? Was planning on replaying tweakbro's Blood 'n steel. Is there also a tweakbro version of the new Warsword Conquest version?

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>still no Dickokujou
>still no Bannerlord
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>155791813
Then just take the goods from the fort? It isn't like you are missing anything. All the neutral fort troops suck ass so that Is why I didn't feel bad replacing them with skeletons and nanbans.

>>155791909
Then give them an ammo quantity of 1 or 2.
How would that work though if you had 1 explosive round and then a bag of normal ammo I wonder?

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>>155791902
Even the lady nobles?

>>155792029
in order to change the scale of the AoE i'll have to play around with the script code
i may know which variable to test but i'll have to do it tomorrow
>Less shots in one inventory slot?
maybe, the one i was set on was 5 so maybe i'll do that if i can reduce the AoE
>Make it really expensive?
yeah i did that, set it to 100k base
>>155792047
>How would that work though if you had 1 explosive round and then a bag of normal ammo I wonder?
this is the main problem, because with ammo in warband the properties are based off of which one comes first in your equipment, and the rest of the ammo just increases the count
so having an explosive round of 2 say and a bag of small shot will give you 22 shots, pretty absurd

>>155792165
>D-daddy pls notice me

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>>155792165
Prima Nocta only effects peasant women so how would that work?

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>>155792338
Childhood abuse is a helluva drug when mixed with perfectionism. Things would have gone better for Azula if she'd jsut stayed on Ember Island and fucked Ty Lee till Aang beat the shit out of AtLA's worse parent (which is a surprisingly competitive title)
>>155792459
gif related.

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You know what I only just noticed? In Bannerlord, when you hover over looted items it gives you a side by side comparison with what you currently have.

>>155792791
>fur armor is better than chainmail
Excuse me what

>>155792791
I like how you can see how much they were messing with the custom weapons.

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What the hell is that empty armour slot?

>>155792995
Underarmor maybe?

>>155792995
Cowl or cape

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>>155793039
Maybe it's the cape.

>>155793089
Isn't that just a surcoat

Is fighting on foot viable in this game? I feel like I get swarmed every time I try something different than just riding in circles on my horse and swing at people.

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>>155793148
Its more than viable.

>>155793121
the joke is that ubisoft blows ass

>>155793148
I've been doing fine on my melee/throwing infantry guy. I just stay with my infantry and I'm usually fine.

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>>155793148
use a polearm

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O how my heart laments the lack
Of a pure waifu from the steppe.
She, lively, on her horse's back,
Takes me from here; and in her lap
My head rests under vast blue skies—
And there I find where freedom lies.
Alas, that life is not to be.
Who may from this one set me free?

>>155793193
What mod is this?

>>155793242
no one cared before you tweaked the wording either

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>>155792857
>>155793242
?

>>155793253
Looks like 1257

>>155793183
Ubisoft has always blown ass.

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>>155793253
older version of modded 1257

>>155793283
I cared. It hurts man.

>>155793283
>>155793292
I was just unhappy with the wording and wanted to fix it before the actual steppe waifu poster comes online to see it.

>>155793330
Yeah that's what I thought.

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>>155793242

>>155792995
what about the slot below the horse slot?
is that the armor for your horse? you can actually change the armor of your horse?
that would be pretty neat and would make me get bonded with a horse, neat

>>155794214
Looks like a saddle on there right now so yeah probably horse armor slot
It makes far more fucking sense than having to buy the armor with a new fucking horse

>>155794214
Pretty certain that's horse armour, yeah. I still want to know what the other armour slot is. >>155793039 and >>155793058 both seem plausible.

>>155794242
>>155794304
also there's buttons that have a war helmet and a cap so im guessing you can have two equipment styles, one for combat and one for vanity/roaming cities
thats also pretty cool and would add to role playing elements.

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Discuss.

>>155794426
>one for combat and one for vanity/roaming cities
Frank actually listens to us wow

>>155794435
He's not wrong, the port was anything but sloppy.

>>155794435
Aside from resentment on diverting resources away from Bannerlord, no mods, and mocking lower scale of game due to hardware constraints I am not certain what he means. Can't recall anyone mocking it for being a sloppy Native.

>>155794626
I think he's talking about console shits saying 'it took too long xD'.

>>155794435
why the fuck would anyone want m&b on console in the first place

>>155794626
Yeah, I haven't seen whatever criticism he's apparently been reading. Literally the only negative stuff I've seen in relation to Warband for consoles is people deriding console peasants and questioning why you'd even bother porting it for them. I tried searching google for any articles or whatever calling it a sloppy port and got no results except for his tweet about it. Even the comments on youtube are overwhelmingly positive.

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Since Bannerlord promises to have children I can't help but wonder how interactive the child will be. Because Rest assured my daughter will be able to kick your daughter's ass.

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>butterland actually manages to take a town from rhodoks
what the fuck happened

>>155795406
>Prissy dex girl vs harcore str loli
Those look like real weapons, is that a duel to the death?

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>>155795743
Its just playful bonding between two well adjusted little girls anon.

>>155795743
Being honest I think the dex girl will probably win. Armor is lethal to the wearer in those types of games, it marks you as a a jobber.

>>155796521
This only applies if you are wearing a helmet m8.

>>155796568
Well it certainly doesn't help your case, and wearing a dress, no armor, and #swag clothing like a crown or tiara instantly boosts your stats by 100 each
It boosts your stats by 20,000 each if you're also undead while wearing a crown.

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>>155796521
This gets me everytime. Why the fuck are RPG devs really obsessed with dex?

>mfw a frail little boy killed a full-armored knight by SLASHING him with a rapier

>>155796785
It's not really 'obsessed' so much as a natural result of making Rapiers scale off Dex...which every other weapon that matters (spears which are always broken, bows which are beyond broken, and exotic shit) does too except for magic. A better way would be to make rapiers 50% chance armor piercing or some shit and make hitchance in general scale off DEX.

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>>155796619
Neither my daughter or I are going to fall for your bullshit you... Spooky Skeleton!

Grinding skeletons is actually the most efficient way to make money in Princess Maker 2. Any good Princess Maker 2 Warrior daughter will have likely committed skeleton genocide to finance her tuition fees.

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>>155796896
>being a non-spooky fleshbag
「Pin to the Sky」

>>155796785
Because to most RPG devs armor makes you practically immobile and can be cut by swords like cheap cardboard.

>>155797013
They can in RPG games that base themselves off numerical stats. Armor and damage resistance is literally worthless until it actually nullifies damage, with high enough stats you can push your finger through a concrete wall.

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>>155795406
already thinking about the consequences
>want a daughter that i can train to be a great queen of my lands
>RNG gives me a boy
this already started to trigger me.

>>155797082
>Armor and damage resistance is literally worthless until it actually nullifies damage
Completely depends on the RPG mechanics. Percentage based damage mitigation can easily lead to universal exponential toughness in certain games. Being able to do 1 damage to a concrete wall doesn't sound so hot when said wall has over 1000 HP.

>>155796896
I just manipulated the creepy fortune teller for selling those pearls.

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>>155797201
Just make sure the next daughter is a Fair Tall Strong Ambitious Genius and make her overthrow her Imbecile brother.

>>155797216
Yeah my bad. You get my point though, in some RPGs Epic-tier characters can literally take a naval bombardment with no armor but his skin despite being """"""""""""""""human"""""""""""""""".

>>155797013
does anyone have that
>killed by a toddler with a stick
comic?

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>>155797201
You can still raise your princess (male) to be queen (male) of your lands.

>>155797428
>(male)
This is the worst meme

>>155797406
Better than getting offed by an angry cat.

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>>155797428
this desu

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>>155797406
this one?

I was never good at this game. I can't into the strategy. I just liked playing that one mod that lets you pledge your surface to NPCs and fight in their armies.

>>155797737
The amount of mooks killed by slashes to the breastplate in LOTR was legitimately a bit distracting.

>>155797617
FUCK OFF CANUTE
AUTHOR SHOULD'VE RETCONNED YOU INTO A GIRL LIKE HE RETCONNED THORFINN INTO AN ASSASSIN

>>155796896
I fucking love this game, got any reccomendations for other comfy old jap games?

>>155798025
Princess Maker 2 is; somehow, still my favorite raising sim game. I did however find myself frustrated that I couldn't help my daughter out more actively despite being a former Demon King slaying badass in-lore. Especially when sending her off to take down rape bandits. A "raising" game where the player is an active character is rare -- In fact the only game that I can think of that has elements of this is Dragons Dogma ATM.

Aside from Kichikuou Rance in the last topic I can't think of many old Japanese games ATM. Uncharted Waters: New Horizons and Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen are the only things that come to mind.

>>155797771
In LOTR's defense, the fact that people can complain about swords and arrows through breastplates is a hallmark for the relative semihistorical accuracy in LOTR.

I mean, if Jackson hadn't been on top with all those art design and combat choreography people, LOTR could easily just have been some kind of Capeshit except without superpowers and capes, but swords and orcs.

Does anyone have a changelog for Dickplomacy?

>>155794705
because i'm a poorfag who cant afford to build a gaming PC because college comes first

>>155794819
He could be reading emails you know.

>>155797771
wasn't so much an issue for me in the LOTR trilogy. I did notice it a lot in those shit hobbit movies though.

>>155800040
But you can play it on a toaster and still have most of the benefits, if not the ability to handle higher battle sizes.

>>155800207
this
the game has 10 year old graphics, you really don't need a supercomputer to play it, even on high settings. even a shitty laptop does well.

>>155800040
Nigga you can literally run this shit on a college work laptop running a pentium

>>155792030
None of it matters since Warband is CPU intensive and only uses 1 core IIRC

>>155800113
True, could be. Pretty sad if he has to read through whiny emails from butthurt consolefags.

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>>155800592
>tfw you will never be frank
>you will never tease 4chan about features that may or may not be the game
>you will never have the job of reading emails from youtube commentators who can barely type
thank god

speaking of dickplomacy
anyone else also use it without the sex stuff?
it seems to me that the latest dickplomacy is probably the most playable, stable and comfy version of warband.

Post feast music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxlwCTOuTSs

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wtf

>>155802573
I've played other games like that before.

>>155800040
>>155800207
>>155800363
>>155800419
can confirm, been running on a toaster and going strong

I only plan to upgrade once Bannerlord comes out, and even then I hope it has toaster support just incase :^)

>>155800705
>>you will never tease 4chan about features that may or may not be the game

i bet that gets him off
what a slut

>>155802573
Actually if you drop all of your gold in Runescape and then hit ALT-F4, you can instantly double it
It's a weird glitch the devs haven't patched out yet, just some friendly advice

>>155803281
Armagan said during an interview for a Chinese gaming website that a gtx 660 should be able to run the game in medium
Though that was quite a long time ago and that may have changed, for the worse or better...

>>155803364
yeah I'm pretty sure my t420 dankpad is going to be fine

>>155800592
...imagine, he could be getting angry emails from crossover linefag/consolefags.

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daily reminder that the ETERNAL RHODOK has the best defense, best trades, and most generous king

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>>155797201
>RNG doesn't give me a boy

>>155804508
kek

>>155804508
Henry was a neckbeard faggot and probably /r9k/ too

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>>155804956
say that in my court and not online and see what happens
>tfw no qt heir (male)

>>155805091
>say that in my court and not online and see what happens
You'll scream in tears for the guards to drag me away instead of doing it yourself like a man.

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>>155805235
Not everyone can be as strong and manly as CHARLEMAGNE, KING OF THE FRANKS, SAXONS AND LOMBARDS, PROTECTOR OF THE HOLY CHURCH AND TRUE EMPEROR OF THE ROMANS

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>>155804508
>>155804956
>>155805091
>>155805235
you don't get to bring male heirs

>>155805401
*rapes Gisela*

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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.

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>>155793242
>you will never have a pure steppe waifu

Why even live?

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>>155805401
>when you have to click through four screens of text just to get through your titles

>>155792835
>red color stats

probably need rapair

>>155807010
No it just means it's worse than the comparison, see how weight is red too?

>>155792791
Welcome to 2015

>>155792791

what's up with his chin

>>155807846
Whah, that's Arnuld you fuul. Arnuld Schwarzenegger. Ja. SHHHJAAAAT AAAP. It's not a tuumaah. All that jazz.

is there a working download link for lolimod?

>>155800713

Just needs freelancer.

I like the adult content. It's a little silly in its implementation but it adds extra layers to the game.

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>>155809410
Yes. It's over there... by that seat. Why don't you sit on it?

>>155809673
I need it for armors
I've ripped just about everything I could find from warsword, PoP, wedding dance and ribhinn wars
does lolimod even have new assets?

>>155792034
>different looking Shih

Wait, are there face mods for Gekojojo?

>>155807057
weight just needs repair doud

I wish the enemy AI in Geko was more intelligent and didn't just charge, charge, charge.
>get attacked by a 450-strong doomstack
>fug
>place ~30 arquebusiers and musketeers on a hill, and a dozen pikemen in front of them
>they mow down wave after wave after wave of enemies

>>155810963
Gekonewer, in the OP

>>155809962
You the guy ripping the Wedding dance female armours? Can you upload them?

Would you recommend Tocans or Diplomacy mod?

>>155793242
I liked it anon

>>155794819
>"it's too hard and you have to read" 6/10 ign
That's probably what he's talking about

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Such shit taste

>>155817534
Back to 50k BCE

>>155817534
>using a Spiked Club like a fucking peasant who can't afford a nice sword

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>>155817665
>BCE

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>>155817534
>no warhammer

>>155817809
I knew I'd get you.

>>155817670
how do they get in nails backwards tho

>>155815828
You want me to upload just the armors? Like, the dds and brf files?

>>155818121
If your working on a submod or tweak, I'll wait for that, but if not the dds and brf files will work just fine.

>>155818053
Is this question in the vein of "how do you get that backwards b"?

>>155817534
>no awlpike
>no hafted blade
>no warhammer
>no iron staff

>>155818576
i mean if you hammer in a nail backwards it dulls

>>155817534
Why would you list 3 one handed weapon and 1 two handed one

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>>155819336
Anon. You hammer a long nail through the club so it sticks out the other side.

>>155819386
Bias.

>>155817534
>Trying to compare a Bastard sword with a stick with nails coming out of it.
They could had chosen a flanged mace instead, or something.

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>>155817812
What are some good warhammer mods?

>>155820219
>good warhammer mods
pick one

>>155820219
try Warsword

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post yfw bannerlord is gonna be a badly optimized console port aka xbonelord

>too weak to wage sieges
>too strong to keep killing sea raiders all day
>other vassal don't do shit

the fuck am I supposed to do

>>155820589
make money ya dingus

>>155820589
looting & raiding

>>155820589
>too weak to wage sieges

Who the fuck decides that? You? No! Fuck 'em, anon, just take that castle with your 40 men. Fuck those non-believers, go get that castle and the booty, figuratively and literally, inside!

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>>155820264
>>good warhammer mods
>pick one

>>155820589
Either make suggestion to lords that they siege a fort, or take the fort yourself with human wave tactics.

>>155818280
I am, but it'll probably be some time before the dickplomacy submod that I'm working on is ready.
I'm not sure if you wanted male armor as well, or just female assets so I uploaded all the meshes and textures from wedding dance. Use open BRF and you should be able to find whatever you want.

https://mega.nz
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>>155820725
h-how did you know I have 40 men

right now I'm just basically roaming enemy territory to fight and release (for honor) enemy lords with comparable army sizes

I don't understand how people have armies in the 100-200 ranges though here in native, my morale is already hard enough to manage

is it really all about just grinding sea raiders for higher renown for massive armies? It already feels reptitive

>>155821045
>I don't understand how people have armies in the 100-200 ranges though here in native, my morale is already hard enough to manage
>what is Leadership

>>155817534
>no saber option

New blog!

https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/16

>>155821101
fuck I made a more balanced distribution between combat skills, trainer, and then leadership

should I have just left trainer to companionfags?

>>155821257
No, just stop wasting points on combat skills, you don't really need them in Native.

>>155821257
Yeah.

>>155821183
>Additionally, it is possible to create a full breach in the walls, allowing for your soldiers to pass over on foot
YES
>this is only possible on the overland map
fuck

>>155821493
m8 we've know that forever, that blog is almost 3 months old

>>155820960
is it possible to take a castle with only 70 men or no way?

>>155822183
throw those 70 men at the castle, then come back with 70 more men, repeat until the castle is yours

>>155822183
Shitter detected. It should only take you twenty good men.

>>155821330
Being able to OHKO everything with a Poleaxe is the greatest thing, especially when you outkill your entire army. 10 power draw is great too. Being able to OHKO horses is the ultimate "fuck you" in mounted combat.

>>155822183
Just become a mercenary or vassal. You start to get more renown in larger battles even when numbers are equal.

>>155822271
Ladder abuse is the lamest. All or nothing .

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>wrapped in a blanket
>fingerless gloves for vidya
fukin love non-summer

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>>155824087
>fingerless gloves for vidya

>>155822183
I've taken suno with like 30 huscarls before, it's certainly possible.

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>>155824219
those are SICK!
but mine are wool

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>>155824087
What are some good mods for the autumn season?

>>155824515
GK Siege

>>155824725
That's not a mod

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>>155825064
what do you call this then, vile peasant?

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>>155823892
>try out a poleaxe
>too slow, keep fumbling hits
>enemies always close in and get to kissing-hugging range before i can kill them
How do you manage?

>>155825384
>want to play native MP
>only populated servers are these modded shits
fUCK

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>>155826070
You know a person's really ugly inside if they hate having the ability to use siege weaponry.

>>155821031
Thanks.

What are some good mods for playing 2-handed infantry? The only one where i had success and fun with that was TLD.

>>155827268
Pretty much any mod

>>155827423
Without getting shot in the face the minute you join any big battle

>>155827468
git gud

>>155827468
brytenwalda

>>155827468
that's going to happen in any mod. this isn't dynasty warriors, you don't run out into the frontlines with a two handed weapon. you are less likely to get shot if you stay in formation, maybe behind an ally with a shield until the enemy infantry gets close enough to attack.

>>155827810
That happens in TLD, which i used as an example tho
>>155827752
i'll try that, thanks

>>155827268
Gekokujo
Errything is 2 handed

>>155828610
Rule Battania, Battania rule the waves. Wiccan Battanians will never be slaves.

>>155826070
There are plenty of servers who don't use the gk mod what are you talking about

i hope Taleworlds realizes the esports potential of the game and builds their multiplayer around 5v5 for tournament play!!

Is the Mountainblade bundle worth picking up? I want to try Viking Conquest but don't want to give money to rusty forks.

>>155829446
Go away with your falseflaging

>>155829463
>don't want to give money to rusty forks
Caribbean is pretty fun though

How do I sell ladies to my bath house in dickpllomacy?

>>155829613
[citation needed]

>>155829873
/mbg/ generally seems to enjoy it if you've ever seen anyone discuss it here

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>>155829463
VC doesn't have any rusty forks, as far as I remember.

>>155826070
>love using bec de corbin
>only servers that have it are GK
reeeeeee

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What is the simplest yet most effective field tactic and why is it the hammer and anvil? I bet Graveth is getting real sick of losing to me.

Sieges are another matter.

>>155831738
But anon the swadian knights charge is much more effective and simple

>>155831738
>What is the simplest yet most effective field tactic and why is it the hammer and anvil?
it's actually pike & shot

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>>155831738
>hammer and anvil?

>not using the superior hammer and hammer

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I wish Bannerlord's political system will be much more complex than Warband's, both between factions and inside of them.

I want to see lords struggle and fight in court for political power, and maybe even try their taste of cloak&dagger against each other. No king, queen, lady or lord of Calradia would be exempt from the feuds that fill this warring land.

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>>155832080

>>155831738
>What is the simplest yet most effective field tactic
f1 f3 because >native

>>155832359
Why would you shoot your men in the back, though?

>>155832558
AI is smarter than that

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>>155832359
its a shame the AI almost always charges straight at you, the battles are trivial

>>155832831
Where do you get Nanban troops?

>>155833097
how is it possible for people to not know about gekonewer in the current year?

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>>155833097
there is a little fort on an island north-west of Otomo lands, you can recruit nanban there

>Mongolian empire the biggest empire in the medieval world and the biggest in Eurasia ever
>shittiest faction

hmm...

>>155825934
Flank them and go hungry hungry hippos on them. High proficiency, athletics, and good parrying helps too. Once I get off work I might just splurg over it (again)

>>155833365
Mainly because their troop composition is the only one where CHAARGE is not only not the optimal idea, it's actively fucking shit.

>>155829947
Only after modding the shit out of it. Even then the lack of optimization is infuriating.

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>>155832269
What about hammer and sickle?

>>155833479
do any mods fix the mongols

I mean c'mon at least they could perfect hit and run, circling and shit

>>155833365
because horse archer AI in native is garbage and taleworlds based all their factions off of stereotypes, in reality the mongols used infantry as well as cavalry, archers, and horse archers

>>155833807
1257 and Dickplomacy

>>155834317
In dickplomacy they're still kinda shit tho

>>155833190
I know about Geko you dunce, I just didn't know where to get Nanban troops.

>>155833257
Thanks btw.

>>155834963
yea the horse archer troops all have shit stats and gear still
the black khergit guards do alright if you want to spend the time leveling up steppe bandits though

found my marshal finally but he is going way too fast. how the fuck do i catch up with him and report for duty? im carrying nothing in my inventory except for a few food items. what gives?

>>155836049
i don't think you know what diplomacy is

>>155836506
train pathfinder

>>155836506
get some horsies

>>155836506
This is the reason why always go for a 100% cav army composition
fuck being slow on the overmap

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Is there a specific reason why half of a mod's textures won't load while the other half will? I'm trying to import Rome at War's shields into another mod and I know for a fact that I placed all of the texture files into the module's textures folder.

pic related

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>>155835991
you're welcome

>>155837245
nvm fixed it..
had to load mod resource in the ini

>>155837317
While I appreciate the realism of Geko's castles, defending shit like this in the game is a pain. Your shooters are initially placed all over the map, meaning that some will sit idly in deeper sections of the castle. At the same time, when a section of the castle falls, you can't order your shooters there to fall back, because then you'd issue the command to all of your shooter units, so they'd leave their posts and stand around somewhere dumb.

>>155837795
I works better in T@ battles honestly.

>>155837245
So you're the guy that was making the roman frankenmod

>be shit at this game
>hear about Alexander the Great's Anvil and Hammer system
>try it out
>it actually works lmao

is this why there's an alexander the great book ingame

what's the sekrit technique for sieges then

>>155837896
Get crossbow. Place on walls or in front of the walls. Win the defense or the offense.

>>155837896
huscarls

>>155837795
best you can do is use nearby soldiers but you have to be near those men

>>155837871
no

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>sell prisoners to ransom broker
>Ymira gets mad about "slavery"

?

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>>155838835
If the family can't pay the ransom they get sold as slaves

>>155838835
I'm literally plantation owner-tier when comes to slaves and ymira has never bitched about it

>>155838835
Slavery is wrong, okay. We got to admit that slavery is a bad thing. We also got to admit that we don't give a shit and love all the money we get for slaves.

>>155839295
>We got to admit that slavery is a bad thing
Honestly? I don't think so, not at all. It's rather reasonable that your last and most valuable possession is your life so criminals and / or people literally swimming in debt should pay with the greatest and only collateral they have left to them. War prisoners are different though.

that feel when gonna be dead before its out

>>155840127
Braincancer?

>>155839230
Certain companions bitching about selling people for ransom/into slavery is one of the additions of Dickplomacy.

>>155840292
any way to turn it off desu

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>Viking Conquest could have just combined the Angle and Saxon troop tree into a single Anglo-Saxon troop tree
>Viking Conquest could have done more work on Friese since they insisted on including them

Instead, Angles and Saxons have different troops and Friese gets... this.

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>>155841231

>>155841461
>chieftan
So theoretically you could be towing around 50+ tribal chiefs? The fuck?

>>155836610
there are black khergits in dickplomacy

>>155840453
you can handover your prisoners to a castle or town prison guard and there won't be any complaints

>>155841593
it's just a name

>>155841461
It's not really an improvement since we're still stuck with the starting Frisian units since the only way to get them is from the 5 or so villages that exist, and Frisian troops start at a higher level than everyone else despite being shittier.

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>>155839295
>Slavery is wrong, okay. We got to admit that slavery is a bad thing

>>155836715
thank you very much. got lucky and had four companions with spare points that i was able to use.

>>155841231
but then we wouldn't be able to SHED THE BLOOD OF THE SAXON MEN

>>155842779
>four companions with spare points that i was able to use.
It doesn't stack. Just max it out on one (like Deshavi, Klethi, or Borcha) and maybe give yourself two points in it for that +1.

>>155839648
>people literally swimming in debt should pay with the greatest and only collateral they have left to them
>It should be a crime to be poor.
Indentured servitude is not morally right.

>trying to win a tournament but they only keep giving me lances or ranged weapons when im only good with one and two handed weapons.
>keep having to re-start

going to rip my dick off im so fucking angry

>>155843253
It shouldn't be a crime to be poor but it should be a crime to take out loans then not repay them. I don't see anything wrong with my logic in lieu of bankruptcy laws and shit. They must fucking pay up, you can't just take the money and not give it back that's not fair to the people who gave you the loan.

>>155843330
literally a hore

>>155843345
>losing with a lance ever
literally how
couched lance isn't any different whether you have 0 proficiency or 230

>>155842804
Anglo-Saxon blood is just as good as pure Saxon blood.

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How's Viking Conquest for a used player of dickplomacy?

>>155843773
It doesn't have diplomacy features.

>>155843397
This seems like a fair assumption until you realize that even the nature of loans has been seen as immoral for much of history. Usury laws and currency as sent are very real issues that are glossed over.

Slavery and indentured servitude are far too exploitative with that in mind. Especially when children get added to the equation.

That said my scion of destruction Ymira raising he'll over slavery is AOK in my book. Add some weight to player action.

Using morghs, is it possible to assign individual troops to be recruited by individual villages?
For example:
Village A would recruit militia A, village B would recruit militia B and village C would recruit militia C, but all three villages are part of the same faction.
The premise is that each village would be a tribe, so their units are named as such and have different attributes.
If it is possible, How is it done? Ive looked through the parties editor but I'm getting stumped. It's probably something simple that I'm just over looking, but if anyone with modding experiences could point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful.

>>155844149
*Currency as debt*. Typing on phone.

>>155843345
>Not leveling polearms
Max pleb

looking for a lady and it says she is narra. i am in narra but i dont see her in the castle. where could she be?

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>>155843831

Hmmm, let's keep using the old calradian buttche... bread to spread my butter

>>155833365
>biggest empire in the medieval world
an empire of big empty plains

>>155835891
do you know about readme files?

>>155833365
taleworlds deliberately nerfed horse archery and general ranged AI between versions .751 and .808 because players complained that "black khergits / swadian deserters were too annoying"

nobody really cares though because who plays khergits anyways

>>155844149
>>155844296
Loans being immoral for much of history is retarded and I don't understand the reasoning behind it. You're charging them extra for the concept of having money 'now', instead of 'later' when they should have (according to them) earned the money anyway. It doesn't matter if you're not 'earning' it.
Whether or not currency as debt and whatever are actual problems are irrelevant, it simply means that debt slavery isn't easy or perhaps is impossible to implement fairly and actually regulate, it doesn't imply there's anything wrong with the actual concept of slavery-as-punishment.
>when children get added to the equation
Children are not relevant, it is my opinion that if children aren't actually judged by the law the same way then they equally cannot sign any contracts or make any agreements that rely on the law. It'd be impossible for a child to get hit with debt slavery because he has no way of legally obtaining debt.

>>155844464
you can only visit a lady if you're courting her, otherwise you'll have to wait for her dad to bring her to a feast

>>155845850
STEPPE
WAIFU

>>155845850
>swadian deserters were horse archers
retarded

>>155845879
I mentioned "usury" For a specific reason when mentioning loans. It should be obvious why usury was seen as immoral for much of history.

Slavery is also just bad for capitalism. Race to the bottom and all that. A middle class is historically significant for societal progress. Economics is arguably one of the primary reasons for the delay in an industrial revolution.

>>155846235
Capitalism works just fine with debt slavery, as that's what bankrupt people generally became in effect.
All of your arguments revolve around 'it's hard to make it work fairly', I still don't see the problem with slavery on an actual fundamental level. People who have not paid off their debts should work until they have - freeze the loan so they don't get outpaced by interest, of course. A slave class doesn't hinder the growth of a middle class significantly, in fact you might consider that Rome had a budding middle class during the mid-late republican Era despite slavery being pretty intense at the time.

>Economics is arguably one of the primary reasons for the delay in an industrial revolution
More like there was just no fucking demand for the volume of luxury goods being shoved out of factories before the industrial age with the rise of the massive middle class, China had joint-stock companies in the Song era and all the prereq techs but nobody wanted to buy all the shit people would create nor did the merchants think of trying because it was incomprehensible that that amount of goods would actually sell.

>>155844296
Science Knowledge and applied techniques are private property.

Throw him a rattlesnake for being an illeterate commigender faggot. And some Benji Franki books, the brickiest ones.

(Don't use a parabolic shoot without cpright, you must use your rights, to pay it)

>>155846781
Is this some Ancap meme without the meme picture

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Can I play as Europeans in Gekomod??? I really want to conquer the japs as a good ol' whitey.

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>>155846864
Ancap memes are fun

>>155846734
>Capitalism works
lol

>>155847018
It actually works pretty well until it breaks down
Like pretty much everything really, except communism because that's MLP tier stupid in its very conception if you try to apply it to any group of people bigger than like 20.

>>155847017
So how the fuck exactly are the ancaps even getting all these weapons since selling shit to people breaks NAP either by them delivering shit to you or by you driving to their (privately owned) store? Are they just raiding the place? But how the fuck did they raid a weapons store without weapons? How are they maintaining their weapons?

>>155846734
There is an element of reactivity to everything. There is world's difference between selling a service and defaulting by losing right of self ownership. There are ways to enforce violations in contract without going full retard with coerced slavery.

>>155821183
Real shame that this will literally never be released

>>155847115
Well, What we have now is basically socialism for the rich. If the bailouts didn't make that obvious I don't know what Will. May as well have highlighted it with neon signs and fireworks.

>>155847357
So you have no argument then and are looping back to 'it's wrong because morals'? Coerced slavery is the result when you refuse to pay up leaving the other guy high and dry.

>There is world's difference between selling a service and defaulting by losing right of self ownership
Yeah no of course, because the former is offering a service, the latter is providing compensation. Self ownership is your final and most valuable property, but if you have nothing else to offer and are in debt then sucks to be you why did you take the loan? Of course you can bring up bad loan practices but that doesn't imply there's anything wrong, conceptually, with paying with the only thing you have left.

>>155847551
Yeah uh
Random bailouts isn't 'socialism', it's just corruption.

>>155846943
gekonewer adds recruitable euro troops IIRC and you can always just make yourself a white dude

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>>155847261
No idea m8

>>155847357
*reactivity* == practicality. Bloody phone. Typing while mobile.

>>155847261
meme magic

>>155847662
Well that changes your entire post honestly, but then I just really have nothing to say but 'there's still nothing wrong, conceptually, with slavery'. That's what we were arguing about to begin with, if nothing else trying to implement slavery >in the current year is beyond fucking retarded.

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Why isn't Bannerlord out yet?

>>155847826
Is that the canton wars manga

>>155847632
It's not even a question of morals it is just dumb really. Especially when applied universally to all defaults.

>>155847826
bannerlord is never coming out

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>>155847745
This. Anything is possible with meme magic.

>>155845963
they were crossbowmen, but people found them annoying anyways because crossbows were good against shields back then and ranged AI was far more accurate and better and could lead targets back then
this resulted in lots of dead frustrated players

>>155847883
Yes.

>>155843549
i cant help it if im trying to joust a guy and he just chases me around for 5 minutes

>>155848021
so they nerf an entire faction because some people couldn't git gud?

>>155847885
>it is just dumb really
Why?

>especially when applied universally to all defaults
How is being made to pay back what you owe using work somehow unfair or stupid? If you literally have nothing left is this not the only thing fair to the guy who loaned you money and has now been denied what was promised to him?
In capitalism literally everything is for sale, it's just a matter of how much you're willing to pay. Life is actually not an exception no matter how edgy that might sound, and the concept is that someone who defaults on a loan is actually, essentially, committing flat-out robbery, and that if they can't compensate the guy they stole from then working for a time equivalent to the amount of money they owe is the 'fair' solution, they're literally just paying for the service they received. I really do not see what the issue is on a conceptual level.

>>155848152
Pretty much

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>>155847017
>>155847658
>>155847916
What's with all the saxonposting in this thread?

>>155847916
Except for Keit-ai.

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>>155848480
>saxonposting

>>155848152
Yes.

>>155848172
Well you DID mention that implementing slavery in the current year is retarded.

Slavery is a loss of self ownership not sell ing a service. How could we even quantify the value of this government coerced slavery within the market when it is being enforced by the state?

Further there SHOULd be an element of risk in giving out loans. Especially when the economic paradigm accepts usury as standard. All you are proposing is turning loan investments into a zero risk proposition.

Just got married with some random noble chick. Did I fuck up?

>>155848923
Yes

>>155805664
How bout that new civ style game Oriental Empires, its looking promising

>>155848923
why random
pick the best slut instead

>>155848908
>Slavery is a loss of self ownership not selling a service
Um, no, it's paying. There's nothing inherently sacred in self-ownership that makes it exempt from basic economics. You can say it's partially the loaning faction's fault for giving a loan to someone who can't pay back but it's still the other guy who violated the contract.

>Further there SHOULD be an element of risk in giving out loans.
Explain yourself. Loans are the same as selling any other service, the special thing about them is that they don't ask for payment now, they ask for payment later. Do you think that when someone sells me a car or whores themselves out to me that there SHOULD be a 5% chance or something I don't pay and they can't do anything about it?

>>155848923
The only value in a wife is bearing children.

War and lacks children.

Therefore wizardry for a golden age under an enlightened ruler.

>Cruising around Tokugawa lands
>Run into Ii Naomasa (that's ii Naomasa)
How does one pronounce this?

>>155849239
Yeah actually. Our economic system penalizes savings enough with inflation and lenient loaning policies without enforcing literal slavery as collateral.

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>>155849053

>>155848593
Love finds a way.

>>155849438
Type in いい なおまさ into google translate and hit listen.

>>155849462
>yeah actually
So what you're actually saying is that I can decide to not fucking pay and the other side shouldn't be able to do shit to me yes?

>without enforcing
There you go again, the assumption there's something wrong with slavery, which is exactly what we're trying to prove. It's pretty obvious you've already arrived at a conclusion and are willing to use the conclusion itself to arrive at that conclusion, so I give up.

>>155832342
The system ckii uses still amazes me with how intuitive it is, it would be the perfect blueprint for a political system in bannerlord

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>tfw no airship fantasy swashbuckling mod

>>155849651
>CK2
The faction system in CK2? It's garbage in vanilla though, CK2+ / HIP have a much better version with passive factions that can have 'attitudes' towards the king which can hurt or help him without declaring war.

>>155849634
I already mentioned that there are existing ways to enforce violations of contract without resorting to slavery.

The other point you seemed to miss Excessive leniency on usury based loans just weakens savings further. Especially when people and corporations tend to give loans to make a profit. And especially when irresponsible usury tends to promote inflation.

>>155850147
>I already mentioned that there are existing ways to enforce violations of contract without resorting to slavery.
That doesn't mean anything. That just means that slavery isn't the only option, not that it's a worse or better option in concept nor that it's actually flawed in its logic.
You've already arrived at the conclusion that it's wrong which is why you say 'there's other ways' like it's self evident this proves slavery is wrong. It doesn't.

>The other point you seemed to miss Excessive leniency on usury based loans just weakens savings further. Especially when people and corporations tend to give loans to make a profit. And especially when irresponsible usury tends to promote inflation.
I told you that's not relevant because those are issues with practicality and how things pan out in real life, not concept. It's like arguing that prostitution is conceptually flawed because of pimping being a thing or religious devotion being wrong because fanaticism exists.

>>155849463
And i wanted that all under heaven mod for medieval ii total war, but it never came out

Gotta take what you can get that isn't dynasty warriors

is there a good semi-linear story-based RPG mod centring around the player and companions exploring places for this game?

Debt-slavery is an ancient tradition. In most societies that I recall using it, it was only the debtor who was enslaved, not their family or children, prior or post.
It's antithetical to a culture built on freedom and/or the value of the individual as being the ultimate goods,
but when the society itself is the highest good, or the law, or whatever other collective idea, then debt-slavery really doesn't violate anything. It ensures the party that made a loan is repaid in some fashion, and the debtor is made to continue to contribute to society.

Of course, like anything, it's exploitable. Though slavery is pretty much more exploitable than not-slavery at every level. That's really the biggest flaw

>>155851120
None worth talking about. Other engines do that much better. Like, stupid lots better.

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question about claimants,
so lets say i own a castle as a swadian lord, and want to betray harlaus to make isolla the queen;
am i going to keep my castle?
it would ease up the whole claimant thing if i could have at least a castle on my command, where i can supply troops and have a waifu before making isolla a queen since it takes shit ton of time to do so.

>>155851453
>that picture
Top cringe.

>>155851361
but none of them have the M&B combat system or the ability to lead armies on the campaign map to complement the unfolding of the story

>>155851453
Being a lord disqualifies you from aiding a claimant, you have to give up your fiefs and become single to court her

>>155851484
what's wrong with it

>>155852009
>Kult of Athena

>>155852057
they're a dealer

>>155852176
Still sounds pretty cringey

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>>155851453
>Athena is typically portrayed with a spear and shield
>Sword
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>155853246
it's a dealer you dummy

>>155853246
She still carries a sword though. In fact since she was the goddess of strategy, not actual brawling war like Ares, it'd make more sense for her to carry a largely ceremonial weapon of manageable size.

>>155851668
Can I marry a claimant THEN leave the faction to create my own faction though?

>>155853469
that's not how the alimoney works anon

she takes it all

you can't do that

>>155853447
While I agree with the latter sentiment, that statue has pretty meaty arms for a female. I am certain that if push came to shove Athena could beat down with the best of them. Muscle sliders when