World of Warcraft General - /wowg/

Why don't they just merge healers with tanks

Level 109 and out of non dungeon quests

>>155446530
how is that even possible

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haven't played for a while

is legion worth the $70? it's pretty expensive desu

FOTM DPS CAN FUCK OFF

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so close yet so far

use this thread afterwards

>>155446516
>>155446516
>>155446516

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>BM Monk
>Disc Healer

what the fuck blizzard

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I just realized these world quests are gonna be really shit for new players joining late.

>>155446509
he means that Blizzard fucked up with the camera distance

first they made it so you can't zoom out that much anymore

all raiders rightfully complained because the only thing you were able to see was Archimonde's toe

so they reverted it shortly after 7.0

problem is they designed all the raids and dungeons with the fixed camera distance in mind

if you zoom out to an average of what many people were using in Legion, MoP etc you will have trees and all that shit often blocking your view

>>155446603
the only really shitty thing is the Suramar crap

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daily reminder to blaze up and keep grinding

>>155446631
>having to level up a druid from 1 to 100 fairly because i used my boosts on shit classes
>all my mains are level 90 because lol fuck WoD
>all my weed cant get me through this grind
>leveling for the nth time truly is suffering.

>getting tingling feeling up my arm playing rogue
is this how I get carpal tunnel? i never had this problem with ranged because i don't have to spam a key 100 times a second

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>hide waist coming in 7.1
>still no hide wrist

>>155446721
fuck brother im with you on that. all my mains are 90 too, i skipped wod entirely.
also spread out on shit / dying servers. so i boosted a warrior even though i had one of my main warrs at 90 on the same realm same faction

>>155446552
pls responb

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Rate my BrM transmog brothers and "sisters"?
I hope the spec becomes good so I can actually use it.

why dont they just delete healers and tanks

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i know people give male belfs shit but i can't be the only one to think that male nelfs look stupid as hell

>>155446732

>hide waist
>hide wrist
>not hide gloves

>>155446787
what can i say its not a lot, if you are a neet it could be idk.
the game is pretty good for a while i guess, definetly going to keep you busy for a month or two..

>>155446601

disc is god tier, but then again a shitlord from wowg will never understand

>>155446808
Is this an NA phenomenon?

I've not seen it on EU, at all.

>>155446826
you arent

i fully 100% wish i could just be human on DH, fuck night elves.

blood elves are ok.

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>Join a pug normal EN
>After a few wipes on vagina tree actually open up skada
>Top 3 are Fury war (me), Frost DK and BM hunter
>Everyone else sub 100k dps

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Hows my mog

>>155446826
i think they both look retarded, but if i had to choose one id go with nelf

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>>155446721

I'm trying to bring my pally up to 110 from 90 because I'm not happy with my 110 Rogue and 110 Druid.

Was wondering what the best way to get 90-98(ish) was? Spam tank dungeons? Is there a leveling guide to follow? What's the best way to do it?

Keep in mind I didn't play WoD or much of MoP, meaning:

- I don't have any garrison perks or flasks.
- I don't have updated heirlooms
- I don't know what the WoD zones and quests are like

>tfw i'm probably just going to buy another 100 boost and it's going to sit as an unplayed alt because I can't pick a fucking main.

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>>155446854
$70 is a lot for a video game and i'd probably get bored after a few weeks

>>155446889
>sub 100k damage
I really don't see how that's possible. I'm playing ret, a supposed meme spec, yet I'm doing over 200k consistently

I should never be out dpsing a feral druid or fire mage

>>155446603
I joined last Wednesday so that's 2 or 3 weeks late?

What sucks is that I'm behind on fucking artifact knowledge and these timegated class order shits. Really? Five missions lasting 12h each right after I'm done with the previous five lasting 8h each? Fuck you.

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>848 MW
>DHT LF healer min ilvl 840
>declined

>>155446826
I don't see the issue except the weird teeth they gave them. Femworgens are probably the biggest offender.

How about them Flask and Potion prices? Hunh? Hunh?

>>155446921
>what the best way to get 90-98
Questing with heirlooms. I only did Frostfire, didn't even finish it and parts of Gorgrond and my warrior is 96 already

Do bonus objectives with a exp elixir

>>155446878
I don't play on EU so I couldn't tell you, but it certainly is a thing on NA.

Ret has had a bad stigma attached to it for over a decade, partially because in vanilla and BC we were legit a bad spec that couldn't do any appreciable DPS (unless you were horde because faggot blizzard refused to give both factions seal of blood). In Wrath we finally became viable, but we have still NEVER been considered 'good' or 'fotm', with one exception that I'll get to in a minute. The other stigma is that a HUGE AMOUNT of retards, baddies, morons, and trashcans play Ret, and give the spec a bad name.

Now for that exception, Blizzard has a thing they do every expansion as an excuse to keep Ret shit or mediocre at best. In the pre-patch, a few weeks before the expansion launches, we suddenly become EXTREMELY strong, particularly in PvP.

This causes shitters and bads who can't understand that shit is balanced for the new level cap in the upcoming expansion to whine and cry and moan about being killed by Rets.

Blizzard then uses this as an excuse to nerf us into the ground and keep us shit for the entire rest of the expansion after it launches.

I've seen it happen after EVERY SINGLE EXPANSION. Every single one.

Nobody unironically enjoys playing melee, right?

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>>155446826

>>155446878
no hes just retarded
everyone gets declined constantly

>>155446530
I don't believe you.

>>155446904
very blue and purple. I like it.

>>155447025
isn't that drawing of Illidan, not a typical DH?

>>155446921
>90-100
Bonus zones and quests that are convenient until 93, then get your garrison to level 2, which is one quest IIRC.

After that, its bonus zones with the garrison +20%xp potions, skipping a zone entirely once you've done all the bonus zones. May have to do a few starter quests in that zone for them to appear. Make sure you get the outpost for each zone up.

>100-110
Questing. Simple as that.

Spamming dungeons will just make things more difficult later on because you won't have any of the reputation gains, and you need that, as well as the suramar quests.

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>search felslate on the AH
>scanning (page 1 / 100)

>>155447008

> when they got Divine Storm in the Wotlk pre-patch during burning crusade

> there was literally a guild on my server called <DIVINE STORM>

so many tears

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Hey, thread! How's it going? I hope you all did well raiding.

>>155447157
you havent killed yourself yet wtf what are you doing why havent you done it just do it already like fuck just do ittt

>>155446925
yeah why do i feel like you never worked a minute in your life?

>>155447157
y-you too

>>155447157
I had to skip raid tonight due to RL crap, missed killing the last 3 of normal. Oh well, we start Heroic tomorrow.

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i made a fucking blood elf MALE
>BLOOD ELF MALE
hhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>155446976
im also behind like shit. i dont even have my shadow artishit as a warrior. and ive done those follower quests.. the quest i have now is to finish 30 world quests.. fk me.. how long after that guys?

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>>155447157
Raiding with friends is fun.

>>155447008
>Now for that exception, Blizzard has a thing they do every expansion as an excuse to keep Ret shit or mediocre at best. In the pre-patch, a few weeks before the expansion launches, we suddenly become EXTREMELY strong, particularly in PvP.
This was tip top kek at the end of vanilla and TBC. Wasn't there to see the rest because I had always quit months in advance.


>Blizzard then uses this as an excuse to nerf us into the ground and keep us shit for the entire rest of the expansion after it launches.
Thanks to the level 100 boost I got with legion, I decided I wouldn't put up with this shit anymore. WotLK was the one expansion where we did well and even in that one I got cucked out of Furious Gladiator by their brilliant decision to change both ret and nerf our rogue's fotm spec like two weeks before the end of the season. Meanwhile hunters had free reign over an entire season before that and they didn't give a single shit about nerfing that DURING the season. Thanks.

I was always used to healing in any serious content and using ret as a way to have fun whenever I wasn't raiding or doing arena, apart from WotLK of course, but there's precious little content outside raids and arena these days.

>>155446989
Don't take it wrong, but every non-druid healer that healed me has been shit.

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>>155447025

How much have you pugged, /wowg/? I managed to get 7/7N 1/7H, trying to pug Ursoc now.

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>>155447304
>1 heroic boss

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>>155447304
>tfw even the meme regime can do 7/7 N

it must be really sad if there are people ITT who cant even clear EN rofl

>tfw you fell for the outlaw rogue is fun meme
rolling 1 buff 7 times in a row is the most frustrating thing ive ever experienced in this game, rolling 6 buffs once every 20 pulls doesn't make up for it

>>155446812
bump pls everyone else gets a rate ;(

>>155447329
literally the only difference is the waist is slightly smaller and no wings, but walking around with wings always out would look fucking ugly anyways

>>155447390
My raid team has a resto sham doing less total healing than my Spirit Beast.

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>having to do the slow as fuck exodar scenario on alts

>>155447390
Nizbun is like 5/7H m8, he doesn't raid with literal who.

>>155447390
My guild just waltzed in there with a bunch of new trials, some of whom played shit specs and lost to the tanks in damage, and cleared the normal mode with only one wipe, after which they still had time to do 3/7 heroic in under 4 hours.

>>155447390
>870 ilvl first 4 bosses down

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who /reallygoodatthegameandbestinyourguildbutreallybadatmakingappsandwillforeverbeinamidtierguildhere/?

>>155447419
RNG the talent. I can't believe people eat that shit up.

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>>155447218
I don't raid. I admit that I am not particularily good at this game anymore. I play more casually but do whatever PvP or PvE I run into. I was more into it during WOTLK and early Cata.

>>155447223
Sorry to hear, anon! You'll make your guild proud, don't worry.

>>155447304
I'm sure it is!

>>155447419
Outlaw really isn't all that amazing either, unless I'm doing something terribly wrong. Asked a few dudes from some top guilds and they said the same thing.

>>155447457
>alts in legion
lol?

>>155447304
who's that cute bear?

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>>155447390
>join group as trial
>most of us are new
>kill 2 bosses in normal in 3 hours

>>155446732
I'd that goblin

>>155446812
Tabards are aids. My monk has a lone wanderer look to him; 6/10 if you like it.

>>155447504
Same. I'm a giganeet and play all day but I raid with a shitter guild that barely got 6/7 normal so far after several wipes
But I like the friends i have in my guild, and that's all that matters

>>155447594
what the fuck that's worse than a pug, i did 4/7 in 4 hours with shitters pulling 120k dps

so how should blizz deal with the artifacts next expac?

i think they should keep them and unlock like a layer of traits under the current ones.
give you a feat strength if you have all the current traits come next expac
and then unlock the traits under, if you don't have em all you get them at 111

>use argus/nightmare crystals to empower artifact
should work out well instead of throwing them away

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>>155447390
>it must be really sad if there are people ITT who cant even clear EN rofl
I don't see why LFR needs to exist, normal should be the easiest difficulty. We brought people doing 80K dps on fights they've never even seen before fucking up consistently and one shot everything. I'm actually excited to see how braindead LFR is this expansion, normal is painfully easy.

>meme regime
Only Gisco is raiding with us, Khel is the maestro of minigames for a reason. Incestral is a normie now. Nizbun is too loyal to his human paladin.

>>155447641
we wiped 8 times on il'gynoth

>>155447615
>Tabards are aids.

No mate the textures on 80% of the chests in the game are aids.

>>155447701
they've already said they're going away

>that absolute madman that uses surrender to madness in battlegrounds
Godspeed, you crazy bastard

did eye of azshara +5 today

fuck wrath, that boss fuckin sucks with so much health

m+ is really fun though, you guys should all do it

>>155447747
but i don't want them to go away ;-;

>choose to roll WW monk cause the rotation and playstle is fun as shit
>It's being gutted before my eyes with hotnerfs coming left right and center, with sweeping nerfs on PTR (reducing Chi generation to 1 on tiger palm)
>forced to reroll literally as the raid tier starts, team wont let me take DK to raid until my third relic unlocks, wont let me get any loot on monk because I'm mid-reroll
I should just unsub.

>>155447764
I got a M+ COS keystone but don't want to do it with a PUG

>tfw I want to raid but I am too much of a loner to belong to a guild

>won't get to see emerald nightmare because my friends are very busy lately and i'm too shy to tank in a pickup group or find a guild

;_;
i guess ill watch a video

>>155447774
>It's being gutted before my eyes with hotnerfs coming left right and center, with sweeping nerfs on PTR

source me up, brah?

>>155447774
>(reducing Chi generation to 1 on tiger palm)
this will break the spec entirely, you're funny

>>155447764
TEEEMMMMPEEESSST

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>>155447531
I have five alts in legion. All of them have legendaries.

I can't even believe it myself. Blizzard fucked up so hard.

>>155447787
I don't blame ya, you can save a lot of time running with a decent group if you can find one

my group all got nels lair keystones from our first mythic, and we were able to do it with 10+ minutes each time, so we got 6 pieces of loot each run of +2 which was pretty easy

now we all have court of stars and arcway for +5, which sounds awful

>no legendaries in our guild since launch, not a single one and we're not slacking
>we got 3 last night on EN and we only cleared 5 bosses

Shame i didn't get one

>Nerf Strike of the memelord so hard it is pretty much useless as AoE
>Nerf our crackling jade lightning to further fuck our rotation up by removing an important filler
>Monk is not even top tier in single target, we are in the middle

>Ferals still at the top
>DHs who had better AoE than monk didn't get nerfed

I want to die monkbros

wait bm is literally 3 buttons?

>can't buy T4 for gold

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>>155447931
This is why I don't even play DPS.

The bitter tears coming from you guys are fucking endless.

>>155447931
>ww monk complaining
LOL
get fucking good dude

>not a single buffs/debuffs addon has the fucking Blizzard standard option to only show relevant debuffs on the target

what the fuck is this shit? I tried 4 different addons and unit frames so far
you always have to decide between
>cast by me OR all debuffs
even in their "expert modes"

why are addon devs so fucking horrible at this game

>>155447931
Is CJL being removed from hit combo?

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wtb skilled arcane mage friend to play with me and show me how to pull decent dps during conservation phase and improve in general!!

Also just want friends to play with in general.

And pls don't bully for playing arcane, I don't want to give up on it.

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>>155448001
>Healers or Tanks are immune from nerfs

Can stop with the false sense of superiority anytime.

>>155448091
>tfw the female versions of all the cloth armors are a little slutty
I dont wanna pay to change to a female... I dont need it.I dont need it..

tukui or elvui? difference?

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>run mythic+ arcway
>2 665 chrono shards are in the chest
>get neither of them

>>155447839
Touch of Death has been stealth nerfed some 35% without a tooltip change. Windwalking passive nerfed from raidwide to 10 yard range around the player. Transfer the Power has had it's FoF bonus damage lowered from 5% per stack to 3% per stack (ultimately reducing FoF power by 20%).

These are just what i've noticed, there could be more that have gone live. I've been investing all my out of raid time into the alt who's going to be my new main, can't speak for more.
>>155447845
It's been tested. I'm aware that it isnt likely to go live, but the fact that it's even crossed blizzard's mind is mindblowing.

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wut armor is this

>>155448179
It's not slutty, it's cute.

>>155448148
>>Healers or Tanks are immune from nerfs
>Vengeance got heavy nerfs in the last patch

yes

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749384995?page=1

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>>155448148
No.

We ARE superior to you. I feel no remorse for it. Know your place, little bitch.

>>155448248
Did you just take a picture of your screen with a fucking camera?

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hmm... really makes u think...

Guys. GUYS

Enhance shaman or fire mage?

>>155448305
no

>>155448262
says the cuck who doesnt even make the boss die.

>>155448278
its not my image you dingus

>>155448229
Your posts aren't a source.

>>155446826
being forced to be a fucking elf is the worst part about DH

shame since it's a great class otherwise LET ME BE EREDAR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>155448303
>literally the easiest dungeon to 3 chest

damn those guys are hardcore

>>155448248
The black/gold shit is invasion gear

>>155446780

>he didnt afk level 20 alts to 100 during the legion pre event

Such is the grim fate of quitters

>>155448352
>dps complaining because his rotation is trash
>can't even top adds
>projecting this hard

Weak.

>>155448091
i'll teach you if you undress and send that image again

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>>155448219
>the neck that's supposed to synergize with chrono shard has fucking versatility and mastery on it, the lowest two stats for most specs that really benefit from chrono shard's proc
Is that extra 1000 haste during the proc even worth it?

>>155448362
I sure hope not.

>>155448352
>boss focuses the tank
>healer focuses the tank
>dps focuses the boss
>you're at the bottom of the charts
>every single other person in the raid is cucking you
>you basically don't exist

It's like you don't even understand how cucking works bruh.

Hey Guys,

Can I joing a VG Guild or play with some of you, when I have a character on a shitty German server?

>ilvl 820
>still have some legion dungeons I can do
>campaign quest stuck on a follower mission sequence
>no world quests with item upgrades
so just run the legion heroics until 825?
this ilvl grind is boring af without guildies doing alt mythics or anyone being able to run me through a mythic

anyone on illidan us willing to take a bro through a mythic or two?
promise my dps isnt shit and I'm competent

Considering leveling my old main for PvP now that my boosted character is at the point where I can only properly gear up with raids and mythics (or arena).

It's level 90. What am I in for? How much will I suffer doing 90-100 and how long will it take?

Boosting 10 levels seems excessive but fuck I hate leveling.

>>155448459
it depends on just how important haste is for your spec. I would use it on my resto druid since I can use the proc to dump hots on everyone

>Dont get invites to Mythics
>Dont get invited to Raids
>Heroics at this point are completely useless for my ilvl unless i luck out and get 850+ gear which i wont because my RNG is shit
>Stuck at 845 unless i luck out from WQ's

Please kill me

>>155448229
as much as I don't want to believe you I am still worried

>enter from secondary entrance of Kara
>it brings me to the normal entrance
>can't use the NPC to navigate

???????????

>>155448579
What class

>>155448381
undocumented changes. dps has gone from one of the best in my guild to shit and my playstyle and rotation havent changed.

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>>155448091
Pls respond I'm totally friendly and sweet and just want friends.

>>155448454
Not a chance, bub.

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one thing I hate as much as havoc dh right now
>outlaw cancer
>pirate shit
why is every single shitter rogue cuck a fucking outmeme le pirate roughe ebin eyepatch yarrrr me hearties bones-rolling SHIT???EVERY SINGLE ONE. dont see any other rogues, just fucking LE EBIG POIRATE ARRRRR. im so FUCKING SICK OF THEM. EVERYWHERE I GO. fucking outmemes and their saber slashes making that shink sound. and the fucking dice popping all over the place so they can get their meme buffs. and then suddenly LE PISTOL SHOT FROM 1000 YARDS AWAY LOL STUNNED FOREVER EBIN!!!!! LE PISTOLERO!!!!!! ARRRRRR I BE A PIRATE!!!!!! RUN YE SCURVY DOGS THROUGH FOR HALF YE HEALTH POOL YARRRR grappling hooks behind you NOTHIN PERSONNELL YE LANDLUBBER

are rogues just in such a shit place that no one plays subtlety or assassination so they're forced into THE LITERAL REDDDIT SPEC? is outmeme doing more dps than the other specs? or is it just the YO HO HO AND A BOTTLE OF LE RUM YAR HAR FIDDLE DEE DEE I ARE A PIRATE SWAB LE POOPDECK MATIES UPBOATS ON THE PORTSIDE BATTEN LE HATCHES XDD appeal to all the LITERAL and ACTUAL memeing shitters and drooling retards who fucking think ARRR LE PIRATE YARR HAR LE SHARKS IN LE WATER LE SCURVY JOLLY ROGER ARRRR THE SEAS BE CHOPPY I AM LE FLYING DUTCHMAN!!!!11 fucking kill yourselves

>>155448623

f-fury

>>155448616
you need to kill bosses or the NPC to let you teleport

>>155446826
nelfs are kinda cartoony because they are a vanilla race but they could be fixed easily with some new haircuts and beards

belfs are just cloud from final fantasy

How do you balance playing WoW with a happy, successful, productive real life?

>>155448538
But is it really worth eating the 1k versishitity for an extra 1k haste that only has about 10% uptime, instead of just wearing another necklace with 1k haste standard? It just seems like a shitty tradeoff for what is effectively 100 haste

>>155448646
There's your problem.

People these days have little tolerance for subpar specs.

>>155448650
I cleared all the bosses up to and including the chess

>played mage in wotlk/cata
>played boomy in mop
>didnt play wod
>played rogue first month of legion
Who should I main next?

So how can I become a better healer for raids (I'm a holy priest)? Should I focus on tank heals or raid heals? What spells should I be using? I always seem to burn through my mana quickly doing AOE heals and the tanks nearly always topped up.

I'm sort of at a loss as to how to keep improving whilst still being efficient.

>>155448662
ignore non elite, non suramar, non emissary world quests

>>155448631
So

Your ass, then.

>>155448646
Then go prot and every mythic group will want you

the difference in quality between mythic and mythic+ dps is amazing. I haven't met a single dps after healing over a dozen dungeons that can't pull at least 200k constantly

>>155448641
What's your name/btag/server? Any of those I suppose.

blizzard
please
buff mind spike
pls
PLS

>>155448715
>being a healcuck

>>155448730
bernkastel#1295

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Whoa...

>>155448662
How hard can it be? Playing it semi-seriously requires as little time as it ever has these days.

After you're done with your class shit and suramar non-WQs, what's there to do apart from emissary WQs, some random WQs that might have decent rewards (1-3 per day max), and raids/PvP? You'd raid like 2-3 evenings a week, 3-4 hours per evening, and the rest of the time you're free to do whatever. Emissary quests will take an hour at MOST per day and you can do a mythic here and there if you wish.

Really doesn't take much time nowadays, especially since having a "happy, successful, productive real life" would entail having a job, meaning using 20-80$ a month on selling gametime tokens for your tryhard raid consumables is nothing if you want to play the game on a higher level.

>>155448683

yeah i dont blame them, subpar DPS in return for basically having a healer have to baby you because of "30% increased damage to you for literally no reason"

>>155448707

Prots ilvl is only 835 and ive never tanked in a raiding environment before

Right now my only hope is praying that blizzard sees how retarded Fury is and give us some buffs just so people dont instantly decline when they see the class

>>155448691
lol

>>155448703
>mechanics stay the same
>loose massive dps the week raids go live
???

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>>155445459
>Doing EN Heroic first day
>I'm in a guild that's partially there, but most of the group is from Illidan
>Most of the people in my guild lost interest once they found out they were doing Heroic
>Nythendra is kicking our ass and a healer leaves and quits the guild soon after
>Fucking people doing sub 100k, meanwhile I'm in the top DPS the entire time
>The male Belf Outlaw Rogue we had was literally 12 and doing sub 80k
>We say fuck it after a few attempts and one shot her on Normal
>Proceed to wipe to Heart
>Tonight
>Most of the sub 100k people aren't there
>Proceed to kill Heart, Ursoc, and Ele

>>155448765
>No blue hair
Dropped.

What's your region/server/whatever anyway?

Tomorrow my guild will be finishing up the last two bosses in normal Emerald Nightmare. Will we be able to move on to heroic EN on the same day or have to wait for the lockout to reset on Tuesday?

>>155448823
835 is fine for regular mythics though

>>155448898
NA, emerald dream.

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how much time do you guys spend gaming? and out of that time how much is spent playing wow?

when your not playing wow, what games do you spend the rest of your time playing? (other mmos, other onlines games, singeplayer etc)

just curious

dude why the heck isnt there a scaling target dummy still?

>ilvl 819
>pull 200k dps
>dh with 840 doing 240
>ret pally with 840 doing 170

ahaha being WW is tight

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Shouldn't Fury warrior be better for Mythic+ because of the trash megapulls? I feel like I'm doing way worse with it the numbers are just dogshit. How do you play this spec?

>aggramar's stride as First legendary

But why

Remember armor penetration?
Remember expertise?
Remember hp5?
Remember mp5?
Remember resistances?
Remember spirit?
Remember resilience?
Remember multistrike?

>>155449020
ahahah yeah dude suh *fistbumps u*

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>join mythic 5 group
>every time a warlock requests a join the leader accepts and asks how much damage they do before laughing and kicking them out

can someone please explain to me the whole turalyon/army of the light shit? you had the message then suddenly it's all about illidan's past

what happened to turalyon? what's the army of the light?

>>155449026
>Charge, leap away, charge, dragon Roar, rampage, odyn's Fury, whirlwind

Its not Rocket science

>>155449028
>complaining about getting a leggo

Check your RNG privilege you piece of trash.

>>155449052
I still dont understand why they removed multistrike but kept versatility

>>155449052
all gay except arpen

>>155449052
Remember +Shadow damage? FUCK I'm old, Rebbit.

>shitter guilds actually can't clear EN normal
>did it last night with an average of 1 wipe per boss in a fucking PuG

LOL

>>155449094
Oh, forgot, insert a whirlwind before rampage so that hits more targets too

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>>155449083
Thats pretty good

>>155449110
multistrike was literally just a bad version of crit

versatility at least provides something different and is nice on hybrid classes or for pvp

>>155448995
Some 6 hours a day on weekdays and 10ish on the weekends.

Right now I spend most of my time playing WoW but that's because the expansion is still fresh and there's still quite a bit of gearing up for me to do because I started late. That said, I'm now reaching the point where I can only really get upgrades from mythics and raids/arena, so I'll be looking into leveling up another character to do PvP on since it actually doesn't seem like PvPing on this main would be all that much fun in this meta.

What I'm trying to say is, past the initial gearing up, I always reach the point where I only raid/do arena to progress and the rest of the time I either play something else or grind cheevos or do PvP to >have fun

>>155449083
what a waste of time

>>155449105
>trash tier legendary
>WOW WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING

>>155449172
It's kind of pointless as a gear stat for pvp, since you use stat templates anyway

>>155449231
world pvp

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>>155448693
Anyone?

>>155449257
less flash heals, rely on your teammates, heal tanks > top dps > other heals > shit dps.

chess event is fucking bugged holy shit, pieces target random directions after you move

This is a weird Diablo expansion, it almost seems like WoW

which ranged dps is the most fun to play?

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>>155448995
When I don't play WoW I try to get through my backlog of PS3 games cause I don't want to buy a PS4 when I have so many old games sitting on my shelf literally untouched. Before Legion hit I was going through the DMC collection, but now I'm too busy grinding Suramar.

>>155449331
Oh thank fuck I am not the only one feels its too much like diablo.

>>155449335
s2m spriest

>>155449052
Thanks for reminding, but I was doing just fine not remembering any of them.

Additionally,
Remember dodge%?
Remember parry%?

>>155448642
I pity you

>>155448056
They are making it cost 30 energy, so you cannot use it as a filler without gimping your energy and it is completely useless aside from using it as a filler so I don't understand why the fuck they would nerf it.
Now it literally is useless in all aspects.

>>155448016
>In the middle in all charts
>World of logs show us at around 220k average

Le monks are op meme ;^)))

>>155449365
>>155449183
thanks senpai

>>155449172
versatility is like the laziest possible stat you can make

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>pugs say "we'll do world quest boss after"
>they leave without doing it
>passing up on a nice chunk of gold that we've already earned

What the fuck

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>have used a 2 button mouse forever
>decide to get an 8 button mouse
>suddenly, PVP is 10x easier

How the fuck did I play this game with a 2 button mouse for so long?

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>europoors starting to wake up
>posting quality plummets

really makes me think

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>>155448641
>>155448091
you too

HOW MANY FUCKING QUESTS DO YOU HAVE TO DO FOR THE GARRISON MOUNTS I SWEAR I'VE DONE LIKE 10 DAILIES

>>155449516
>spending even 30 seconds on 700g
lmao pooro

>>155449587
dont use the g word

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>people with no legendary try to join my mythic+ group
Its been a month you shitters, just grind it out.

>>155449478
>>In the middle in all charts
>>World of logs show us at around 220k average
>Le monks are op meme ;^)))
you are at the front of all melee dps though

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Hello!

>highmountain
>no music
>ambience on
>night

Is there a single zone cozier at this point?

>>155449516
Do normals they usually need to do the extra shit since they desperate.

>>155449678
Winterspring, Silithus, Nagrand (old), Grizzly Hills

I don't know what's worse, not getting a legendary or getting some fucking dumpster trash legendary like Prydaz or Sephuz

I'd probably kill myself if I got one of those useless fucking barely better than mythic gear legos

>>155449587
beat each of the named mobs in nagrand once, plus all the shit you have to do in the other zones like wrangling and the smaller training mobs

Why is Human Female the only race that has that much issues with clipping ?

2h weapons on the back clip through cloaks and tabard

Can I enter Suramar at 109?
Finished everything but stormheim

does anyone have that legion quest guide that tells you the order to do the quests required to unlock the dungeon quest for a zone as fast as possible?
i'm pretty sure it used to be in that russian google docs spreadsheet that was going around pre-launch but has since been removed

>>155449808
intro quest doesn't show up until 110
and you need to do a bit of each zone to unlock WQs anyway

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>>155449712
Those are pretty cozy but blizz did a really nice job here , it was cozy enough for me to just stop for a few minutes and really appreciate the work they put in.

>>155449768
Gnomes have incredible clipping issues with any and all shoulder armor.
And they're not alone in that.

>>155449663
Horseshit.
Check any boss on world of logs, only on ursoc is there 1(one) WW at second place.

>rerolling
>get 110, suramar open
Can I not? Shit takes so long.

>>155449830
What's the "Ride Khadgar's gryphon to Suramar" quest then?

>>155449052
>starting with armor penetration
Eat shit, no one misses that awful shitter-trap stat.
+hit rating
+spell power/healing split
+[element] damage

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Brews and large mission tables

>tfw 853 with a legendary
am i ready for raids yet

>>155449094
Think I'm just having trouble keeping track of when I'm enraged or not. Also I have shockwave spec'd for mythic+ not double time.

>tfw only 3/7h
>even asmongold is 7/7h
>3 hours on ilgynoth
i mean atleast we killed it but still
the second 1st phase of it was really fucking messy and our raid lead took so long to change our kill priority

>>155449885
the senile windchime who loves Illidan

>>155449903
>shitter-trap stat
>literally best stat for most melee and MM hunters in icc
ok.

How much cooking skill must I have before I start making big bux? Ehere fo I find recipes? I have like 40/75 skill and cooking research always gives burnt shit. Wat do

>>155449946
nice blog

>>155450062
sorry i want to talk about raiding while shitters like you stay on the bottom of the barrel, icycrits

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>>155449768
Having to deal with this makes me not want to play my holy paladin.

hey /wowg/ i made a friend here tonight it was cool
thanks for reading, like comment subscribe

>>155449916
>tfw you will never drink from her large jugs

>>155449976
Bullshit. It was only a dps improvement over straight attack power/main stat gemming when you could achieve a static 100% arp. There were zero exceptions to this.

Rogues gemmed AP or agi, same with hunters and same with warriors.

t. Warrior main who killed HLK months before you.

>>155450102
What the fuck made you think that chest looks good?

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>>155449873

>>155450102
saggy tits

Why do draeneis have a horse cock? Why not a regular humaoid penis?

>>155449110
I think it was too confusing for players or something.

What's the best ranged dps?

>>155450171
hunters make casters obsolete
higher single target, higher AoE, more mobile, easier to play, just better in every way

t. fire mage

AN ILLUSION

>>155447070

underrated post

>>155450060
Pls answe you shits

I dont necessarily wanna make money I just wanna make my own food without having to pay the cookjews 5k per meal

>tfw have mythic key
>no one to run it with but pugs

>>155450209

Your shit kid

t. better fire mage then you

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>been farming the two last pieces of transmog on my 8 plate users every day for a week
>look up the drop rates
>2 and 4%

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Are warriors the best and only viable tank class?

>>155450148
>>155450142
There aren't really many good alternatives to go with the set, I usually just stick a tabard over it.

>>155450274
succ me beautiful

>>155446826
I think they fucked up the male nelf's posture in the model update

they look kinda slanted/slouched now, classic model looked better in that regard

>>155450320
post the healing stats now

I'm gonna main femgnome warrior!

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Hey anon, you got any of that.... mana?

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>>155450362
Do you want to be smaller than the mugs in Skyhold?

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>>155449916
>>155450102

Two kinds of tits.

>>155450320
>be bdk in mythic
>effective healing more than heal has

>>155450392
Yes!

is there any real good reason to give useless drops to random people if it's the last boss? i'd rather vendor it for some change than help someone i don't even know gear up desu.

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>>155450360

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>>155450360
>>155450459
Or if you wanted the healing by healers

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>>155450320
>>155450459
>the amount of warrior tears when the nerf hits

>>155450459
>prot war
>top self heal
>any self heal
Lolwut.

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anons, if my guild did several bosses on normal, and i join in for the last 2 - will i be locked for the previous bosses as well? Or can i pug those after ?

>>155450549
Absorbs are counter as heals too

>>155450549
It counts ignore pain.

>>155450534
When are they nerfing them? Worth rolling a warrior for mythic EN or nah?

>>155450459
>>155450529
post healing by all classes

>>155450529

This is quite possibly the most useless statistic.

>no serious mythic guild recruiting
>not gonna spend 20 hours a day pugging (15 hours wiping and waiting for recruits) for shit gear


Well I guess it's time to sell all my shit now.

gonna make enough forum gold to buy 40+ CS:GO keys, so it ain't so bad.

so now that the dust has settled, we can all agree that legion is hot garbage right

>>155450652
t. resto druid

>>155450583
In the past you'd be locked for them all, but it seems now you're only locked for the boss you down

>>155450614
>>155450589
>absorbs count as "tank survivability"
>also count as "self healing"
it should be only for surv.

>>155450665
yup

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>>155450647
also if you want to look at this stuff by yourself
>https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/10

>>155448248
Black and gold is invasion gear. No longer available unless you have nethershards laying around.
Red and black is the rogue boosted armor.

Why are belf females such shit compared to nelf females? They say they wanted to give horde a pretty race but all we got was shit.

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>>155450719
>prot warrior ahead disc priests

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>>155450583
>problem: why can't I que as a tank/healer

My buddy that I play wow with every expansion, the reason I even bother playing the game, is purposefully doing mythic dungeons alone. Should I ignore him and never talk to him again?

>>155450881
Are you playing one of the anti-fotm specs? If yes, then the answer to your question is yes.

>>155450782
They're practically tied with every healer anyway, even if they're not winning the others.

>>155450881
how do you know hes ignoring you? just git gud my friend

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>>155447304
>taking 2 days to finish EN
loving every lol

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>not being a true memer

>>155447390
we did 4/7 on the first night like we planned on doing, i'm pretty satisfied desu.

>>155451068
>plan on doing heroic clear, required 850 ilvl
>have to go normal and only go 4/7
>satisfied

why do druids have a flight form if they cant use it

I need an alt to do healing. Only healing though.

Priest or shaman?

>>155447708
>how braindead LFR is this expansion
can't possibly be more braindead than WoD

I literally slept through Tectus and did not die

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>mfw ilv 850 and still have a 810 shadow relic in my weapon

FOR FUCK SAKE DROP AN UPGRADE ALREADY

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is there any talent or something i can take to make aimed shot castable while moving? standing still kills my soul

>>155451186
>be DK
>open map
>everything is littered with 830\840 ice relics
Thanks..

>>155451186
tfw you get all 3 of the relics you need from EN

>tfw exact same helm as you have drops but with a socket
>hour later think you switched and grind it up
>you didn't switch

Kill me.

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>reach level 110 on alt
>SURAMAR AWAITS

>>155450665
Artifacts are great, but everyone having the same weapons is not

World quests are great

Order halls are great, but being limited to 5 champions is not

The dungeons are 100x better and more complex then any of the leveling dungeons, every boss actually has DBM-worthy mechanics whereas almost everything I experienced while leveling recently was just a quick tank n spank.

So what relics are everyone running anyway? I've been 850-830-825 for the longest fucking time now.

Reminder that if you aren't doing mythic raids there's no reason to do raids over mythic+

>>155447575
Thundertwig

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will the emissary boxes ever scale with ilvl?

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What's the best point in a raid fight to use army of the dead? right at the pull starves my runes early on, but I guess it's the best time? waiting for hero/blood doesn't seem useful since I'd have to literally stop DPS just to let runes recharge for it.

>>155447193
Wow isnt work you retard. Nobody likes spending countless hours doing stupid quests just to unlock a dungeon. dumbfag.
>inb4 minigamer

>>155451343
In 4 months maybe they will fix it.

>>155451290
850/850/850

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>>155451186
>finally get 850 relic
>reduces damage taken by 3%

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5 mins into leveling n' chill and this gets /w to you.

name my draenei shadow priest

>>155451419
Shadehoof

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>>155451417
>forgetting the QIA

what a bunch of shitlords

>>155451417
>playing on proudmoore

>>155451417
what does your post even mean

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You won't believe me but i WILL make Demo Lock great again, just wait !

>>155450583
>Cannot summon into mythic dungeons

Don't play a warlock, but isn't this the entire benefit of being able to summon people?

>>155448642
Been outdpsing Outlaws as assassination. Outlaw's supposedly better.

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Hello I am bear

>want to raid
>don't want to slave 4 days a week for 4 hours a day

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Rate my xmog

>>155451495
it's because of an instancing bug, not a design choice. you can summon them once their inside the dungeon if you're deep in, that's about the best you can do.

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>2 legendaries of the same boss

>>155451536
So why is it highlighted like its Warlocks whining?

>>155451529
solid zero effort there anon, here have a gnome/10 rating

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tfw

>>155451558
>tearstone
tell that druid i fucking hate them

>>155447978
Cobrashot, kill command and Alpha thingy

Yes.

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>>155451584
>you fell for the rogue meme

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>>155451486
>lock