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The Best Part of Waking Up Edition

>Previous Thread: >>155157549

>Official site
https://www.paladins.com/

>Patch notes
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?11541-Closed-Beta-33-Patch-Notes-Fierce-Competition

>Forums
http://forums.paladins.com/

>Steam
http://store.steampowered.com/app/444090/

>Tutorials made by Hi-rez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvmzT6CSvg8&list=PLfqXKYM_LlNyc6n9nhYujLyniK69nMFrB

>Champion guides made by Hi-rez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnOK-TNKNmw&list=PLfqXKYM_LlNwUxmoNDngInm4DnaanoKS9

>Decks
http://www.paladinsdecks.com/

>Hirez server status
http://status.hirezstudios.com/

>FAQ about the game
>I'm working on the pastebin, maybe.

>Datamining
http://smitedatamining.com/category/paladins/
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1st for woohoo!
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>>155268323
I watched that happen to someone
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>>155268323
I got stuck like this too once.

I hate to say this, but out of all champions he feels like a "chinese knock-off" of pharah the most.

He's fun but extremely clunky to use.
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How do I build Makoa?
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>temple isle
>double the average match time
>goes to max points every time
>no one can cap because the map is too big with retarded chokepoints

Fuck these large maps. They're only good for sniping.
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>>155268684
What if Hirez removed the launcher part and turned him into a fireball shooting from his hand lizard who spits out explosive flammable loogies?
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So about Ying, is she actually being reworked into a healer?
>A new age of healslut memery is upon us
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>>155269048
Yes, check out her abilities on Paladins site. She still have the same abilities but now they heal allies instead of damage enemies(except for her left click).
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>>155268513
hey at least it isn't hanamura
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>>155269048
That's worth two peace signs.
her taunt needs to be her doing a peace sign with her toungue sticking out silly.
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>>155268995
I don't have a problem with him shooting rockets, I have a problem with his jetpack feeling meh, and his ult being buggy.

>>155269048
Ying x who is the OTP?
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>>155269365
Barik. Ying thinks he's adorable.
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This is the best Pip build.
I would use Gift giver instead of medical excellence, but it's kinda useless unless you max it, and I want a max Reload because throwing down heal 2 times in a row when you're pushing is insane.
Side tanks maxed is a must.

>>155268368
woohoo!
Awesome!
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>someone made a thread about the game leaving a background program running even when the game is closed and he said it also boots up with the system
>the thread is deleted before I could make a reply

not fishy at all now, low rez

YOU WON'T BE DATAMINING ME!!
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>>155270124
I'll be jacking that build and giving it a try later.

Aside: The "Import" button while deck-building is super-handy. You just enter the name of the person who has the deck you want, and you can scroll through their builds and take it for yourself instead of manually building it.
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do the matches played to get the barik skin need to be pvp?
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>>155270752
Yeah, I really like the feature.
\it's super helpful since there are leaderboards for every individual champion in the profile tab.

>>155270773
Yep.
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Can someone explain what do this borders mean?
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>>155270925
Those borders represent your competitive rank with that character. Paladins handles ranked on a per-character basis, not an account-wide basis. Unfortunately, it's all bugged right now, so the borders will appear randomized and don't mean anything right now. If your picture was accurate, it would mean that you have a gold Grover, a gold Bomb King, a (I think) platinum Grohk, a platinum Drogoz, a platinum Skye, and a diamond Buck, while everyone else (except Androxus) is unranked.
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>>155270381
Heh, you're right.
It's running in the background but it's not doing anything until you start the launcher.
I'd say it's a shitty anti-chit thing and the "update" part in the name is just for show, since the launcher handles the updates.

Just turn it off.

>>155270925
Your rank with that champion.
It's currently bugged.
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>It's a teammates never buy items episode.

Can't HiRez make a BIGASS text telling people to buy items? make it not disappear until they actually buy an item. And make it pop up every new round.
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>start playing yesterday with a friend
>10 games in probably an hour
>win all of them
>get people with borders on their portraits
>some dwarf on the opposing team wins the game on his own
Is this standard?
My team was absolutely retarded they kept shooting at the shield, he was alone on the point all the time. I was playing Skye, keeping their squishies back.
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>>155269365
Preferably something large, green, and or/non-human.

>>155269181
>>155269248
Guess I'll enjoy that then. At least Ying is built for it, being a double peace flashing elf with underboob.
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>Fernando/Barik/Ruckus on the enemy team
>I'm the only person who buys the shieldbreaker
>And I'm Androxus

>>155271327
See >>155271083. You can ignore ranked borders right now, since shit's bugged.
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>>155271095
>using McAfee

dude
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>>155271095
>>155271083
Thanks.

>>155271341
Lewd.
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>>155271392
It literally shows it's not turned on.
I forgot to un-tick it when I was installing flash, s m h.

>>155271242
I just tell them to buy items.
Communication yo.

My biggest problem with the game right now is that the lobby in the champion pick screen is AUTO CLOSED.
WHY?
No one ever bothers to open it.
How do I tell the autistic insta lock kinessa that we have no front line?

>>155271327
Your first games until level 5 are versus bots.
You saw a player that knew what to do.
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>>155271608
> I just tell them to buy items.
I did too. Multiple times even, but they just don't listen.
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>>155271363
People don't even go for the cap either, they think they're playing deathmatch. Don't think I've ever seen such retarded teammates in a game before.
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>>155270773
I got it while I was playing just bot matches and then opened a chest after having 5 or more wins. But apparently it can be buggy and bot matches won't count for everyone.
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>>155271608
>Your first games until level 5 are versus bots.
So that's why they didn't appear in the match history
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It would improve general gameplay immensely if retards did just 2 VERY SIMPLE things a bit better or more often (every time would be great):

1. do objectives when you can
2. fucking buy upgrades/items

I think everyone below level 5 should be constantly reminded by the game to do that shit. Like big fucking text on their screen telling them they should focus on staying on or near the objective as much as possible. Or telling them to buy shit when they have nothing.
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I'm a Ying main.

I am not pleased that my illusory trickster slut of many explosions and lasers is being turned into a fucking healer.

If they wanted to make a dedicated healer, couldn't they have just made a new fucking character?
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>>155272568
DOUBLE
PEACE
SIGN
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>>155272650
I guess I can still at least fall for the healslut meme or something
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Check the animation on Barik's Engineer skin weapon. That's some quality shit to use the same animation as default, low rez.
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>>155272689
does she have a good voice? I don't want her to be ruined by a shit voice that's either not fitting or too fucking peppy or flowery or hippie and shit
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>>155272568
She looks fun as fuck, when is she getting changed into a support?
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>>155273069
she should be back next patch(next week maybe)
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>>155272650
>>155272689
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>join casual game
>someone picks a support at least
>but they change it
>pretty much forced to play frontliner yet again
>enemy team has a tank and a healer and they have better mastery levels too
>4 retarded camping DD shitters on my team
>they're all camping while the other team quickly stacks 3 players on the cap point
>massive lag hits really early
>game gives notice and closes automatically and gives no deserter status

saved by a shitty connection I guess

I wish I could quit before a match with a smaller penalty to avoid an obvious loss but no they want me to suffer unless I want a temp ban

do the time bans stack and is there a limit? I'd rather just wait 15 minutes than suffer for 10-15 minutes
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>>155272568
Damage Ying was crazy hard to learn, probably one of the most difficult characters to master. Making her into a support takes a lot more pressure off of her. Plus, changing Ying into a support now evens out all the classes. We will have 4 tanks, 4 supports, 4 flanks, and 5 damage.
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>>155273006
Ying is rather soft-spoken and is a real "power of friendship" type of person.
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>>155274085
power of dickings
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Is the frost mage good?
I almost got 5k gold, thinking of buying her.
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>>155273006
I liked her, she's cute and a bit self concious
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>>155274085
>>155274238

I hope she will become a mai waifu character for me.

I loves me some elves. And she's a cute one.
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Serious question, what's the deal with this game and overwatch? How are they related?
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>>155274429
OW sells so they decided to clone it.
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>>155274497
so why is anyone playing the knockoff? Did they do anything to differentiate it?
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>>155274585
Yea, they made it free.
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>>155274225
She's fast and fun, but squishy and hard to learn.
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>>155274585
paladins is free, is generally faster(in movement and match time), and has some character customization through cards
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Tf2 guy here, really fun game and a hell of a switch up compared to tf. Pretty easy to start and the extra 'powers' keep things interesting, though not always for the better. I'll be playing until Overwatch inevitably goes ftp in about a year or two.
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Is there a guide for all the free shit you can get in this game, promotional items and shit.
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>>155274786
>Overwatch inevitably goes ftp in about a year or two.

hahahahahahahahaha ohohohohohohohohoho
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>>155274849
most of it is on the paladins page, I missed some giveaways (at least 3) since they were gone before I started playing so you won't be getting those either
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>>155274585

heres what I said before

paladins currently has a few things that overwatch doesn't:
elves of varying degrees of lewdness (no elves are pure though, due to being elves)
various other fantasy races
a stealth character
no genji (yet)
no mcree (no, mc reaper doesn't count since he's nowhere near as broke as mcree)
less wasted space on maps
a more fanatsy themed asthetic
currently there isnt really any hero who dosent have a get out of jail ability
and a few others
Don't forget the card system and items.
Also, no hero switching. So it feels more like a MOBA(for better or for worse).
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>>155274786
>Overwatch inevitably goes ftp in about a year or two.
Get in line right next to "WoW is going to be ftp this year!" crowd.
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>>155275053
implying it isn't
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>>155274786
I hope you didn't already made plans anon.
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Anyone playing right now and want a farming/grinding partner? ign;eschew
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>it's another nobody goes for the objective episode
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>>155275592
>tfw 10+ games
>tfw never lost a battle
>tfw casual
>tfw randomly picked teammates are always professional and stick to objectives

I consider myself lucky
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>>155275742
>>155272383
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>>155273643
hng
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>>155275794
No, you can tell by their nicknames, also you can add them to friends, so they aren't bots.
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How long till some sfm to fap to
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>>155275891
>fapping to pictures
Use your imagination pleb
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>>155275880
if you've only played less than 20 games then you've been playing against bots the whole time
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>>155275742
>topkek and wish you best of luck for future
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>>155276003
I already said that after match you can add players from enemy team to friends, you can't do this with bots. Where did you take this bullshit about 20 games? I had only 2 or 3 games with bots in the beginning.

Also >>155272383
like this guy said all games are in my history so they are legit
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>>155276370
Because until level 5 you play only against bots even if you pick casual, tard.
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>>155276486
He already said that he can add/report them. That means those are not bots.

Are you dumb or are you just pretending to be?
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>>155276486
I'am level 7 and have two heroes with level 5.
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>>155276638
Then you have 20+ matches played, you lying inconsistent son of a bitch.
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>>155276773
you are actually dumb
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>>155276773
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>>155276830
10+ matches in and you are still guaranteed to be playing against bots because you will be under level 5. Noose yourself, retard.
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>>155276918
Posting garbage ancient MS paint comics won't make you any less stupid, anon-kun :3
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Not sure if I want to get invested in this game. It has potential but I'm getting a strong Battleborn vibe from it. I spent 400 hours playing Battleborn and it's fucking dead. I don't want to go through that again.
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>>155276930
He can add them/report them, those are not bots
How is this so hard to understand?
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>>155277367
>All-time peak 12k

K E K
E
K
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>>155277367
>I don't want to spend my time playing video games
>plz no, i dont wanna go through that gameplay again and the fun

wtf bro, just like play game. it's not like you're a pro... i guess battleborn you had to buy though.
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Why would you ever pick Evie when you could play Skye?
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>>155277367
>400 hours playing Battleborn
at this stage your cancer is terminal, consider suicide.
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>tfw got good with Grover's vine

Grover is pretty fun, too bad I heard he got nerfed recently in CB33.
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>>155277809
Allright, someone explain to me why OW is better then Battleborn

inb4: no lewds
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>>155277367
>getting Battleborn on PC
Come on now, there was no way it would survive for long on PC. The game is pretty dead, but it's slightly more bearable on console.
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>>155277802
to hit lvl 4?
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>>155277802
Because I haven't played Evie and she seems fun
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>>155277951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bozvLUp0f1o

See how long you can last through that and then you tell me.
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>>155277964

>playing an fps on consoles

Found the most retarded person on /vg/
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>>155278032
I mean from gameplay perspective
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>>155278098
I bought my first console to play Killzone 2, shit was cash.
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A-anyone wanna form a /vg/ ragtag competitive group? We got a masterlist or anything yet?
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>>155278182
But that does count as a gameplay perspective. You have to listen to that nonsense while you play, unless you want to turn your headphones off.

Also killing minions for a level advantage is lame
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>>155278032
oh god. who thought this was a smart idea?
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>>155277951
>Allright, someone explain to me why OW is better then Battleborn
I don't have to unlock characters after having paid for the game.
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>>155278425
What's your timezone, bb?
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>>155278535
EST.. my schedule is fucked right now cause I'm sick and NEET. ign;eschew
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>>155278445
You have an option to turn off character voices.

Though I will admit, Minion farming always sucks. At the Minions in Battleborn look kinda cool.
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>>155277951
while I DO actualy like battleborn;
battleborns ui is really cluttered
the character designs are generally better (in the sense that they're less cluttered and more cohesive)
the gear system is a bit of a problem since certain gear is all but mandatory and is locked behind rng/crazy grind

despite all this I dont think battleborn deserves all the hate it gets
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>>155278692
>the character designs are generally better (in the sense that they're less cluttered and more cohesive)
I disagree. You have a very good point about clutter with Battleborn's character design, but I find it to fit together better than Overwatch.
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Did games like CoD and such rotted these kids brains? Playing as Pip and it seem like every time I have my ult my choices are to use it on a large group with my team members nowhere near the fucking objective or use it on 1-2 enemies. 99% of the time my team lose because they fail to get the objective. Do they seriously don't understand that camping simply doesn't work for this type of game? I think Moba players are less shit than actual FPS players.
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>>155278964
>I think Moba players are less shit than actual FPS players.
That's because teamwork and objective control are generally forced in MOBAs where in a lot of FPSes you can just shoot shit and still get things done.
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>>155278964
In Paladins, MOBA players would probably fare better as long as they know how to aim.
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>>155279120
That the thing, as Pip and personally sucking ass on FPS games I often get more eliminations and objective time (even though I am safer in the back SOMEONE gotta push the cart up some) than anyone else and that not even counting the healing. I used to go for cooldown reduction so I can spam potions more but now I find myself going for faster reload because I pretty much have to play solo while everyone else try to camp and fail at it.

My aim is god damn awful and with Pip AoE helping me some admittedly I shouldn't be the best player of the game almost every single time. I'm almost at the point where I'm willing to add people from /vg/ and just deal with the shitty memes and cringe they may cough up.
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>>155279120
No.

You guys are forgetting about the niche F2P/unknown shooter markets. Games like Firefall, Natural Selection 2, Nosgoth, and others all have communities that have ended up in the current OW/Paladins/BB genre as their home.
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>>155279486
I mean compared to standard FPS players who only play stuff like CoD.
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>>155279586
k senpai.

also is anyone online playing? i need a casual farming partner to get ez levels. right now it can be brutal with the randoms.
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>>155279664
Just pick Fernando and start to carry
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>>155279759
He's already lvl 4. I'm grinding for that competitive.

Only a few more heroes.
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Do we have a Paladins ID list?
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>>155280512
not yet
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>>155280589
Make one, please
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Dead thread of rhe dead game
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>>155280753
Google form that spits input into a spreadsheet for us:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf9O7hNHKSZ-K6_89JuoNxCGsbZE5ZPlUg2bhYo0EDFw_Xlbg/viewform

It should take you to the questions, and then all the responses.
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>>155281597
Here's a direct link to the spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X6NNDQLSytCCoExPCtt48Bq9_Sv_Ha4qZkOeHS1DcS8/edit#gid=485142380

Maybe add both links to the next OP?
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>>155275742
kek
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>>155268224
give me one good reason grover isnt the best
protip: you can't
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Objective Time: 0

What did Kinessa mean by this?
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>>155281713
>You need permission
hmmm
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>>155282168
Isn't this a point of this character? Sniping people from afar while other champions sitting on the objective spot.
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>>155282240
fixed.
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>>155282254
>having 0 seconds on point
>acceptable at all with a team of 5

no, there should be at least 1 second of 'downtime' where you can be helping cap the point and still sniping. Unless your Kinessa is getting like 150k+ dmg without touching the point and winning it for you, it's not worth it.
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I really want to like this game (OW is getting kinda boring due to the lack of content) but holy shit this game is ugly. I always hated Smite for that reason; Hi(Low)-Rez is absolutely terrible when it comes to polished graphics. It looks so clunky and ugly. I'll probably still pick it up because it's free but man these graphics are a huge turn-off.
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>>155281597
Add NA or EU

similar to Overwatch spreedsheat
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-1uOqymySz22QFhC6S19HPb8WKJBDNd3ILj679bW2Sk/edit
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>>155282508
Consider some people play Overwatch on the lowest of the low settings. Even pros play on the lowest setting because it removes bushes and clutter.

I play Paladins for the gameplay, but yeah, it's ugly. Still having a lot of fun with it.
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>have a skye, evie, and McReap on my team
>none of them go flank the enemy kinessa or viktor despite both of them being nowhere near their tanks or support

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

JUST GO FLANK THEM

THEY ARE SHOOTING ME AND I CAN'T REACH THEM

IM YOUR FUCKING TANK

HELP ME
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>>155283606
calm down amigo
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Can't purchase items in shooting range and have to wait 40+ secs just while choosing character to try it on range. Nice job Hi-Rez.

Does Lifesteal item even works? Couldn't notice difference with or without.
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>>155283618
Fuck you Fernando
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server down?
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>>155283686
You actually have to land your shots on someone to lifesteal from them, anon.
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>>155278964
I think in general moba players are better when it comes gaming. Most fps are basically just how well you can aim, and knowing the map, both of which arent hard. In a game like this where there's delays and abilities and skill building/cards, it's no surprise that the majority of fps players are paint-drinking morons who can only play Viktor. It's why they stick to csgo(and they really should stay there).
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Apparently you don't get any gold and exp from Training matches after reaching account lvl 13. Why can't I be a shitter in peace?
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Any word on a console beta or final release?
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>>155284702
But FPS games are shit vs bots
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>>155284754
no, too soon for that. don't expect to hear news about that until early next year.
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>>155284358
http://status.hirezstudios.com/
Seems that no
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How do I send a support ticket to gayrez? I've won 12 games with barik over the last 2 days through steam (non bot games) and still don't have the fucking skin.
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>check a paladins streamer
>level 182


nani
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>>155277951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w9UV311A8o
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>>155285001
this game has been in closed beta for like a year.
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i hope ying is good cause all the supports are shit rn
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>>155285001
I want newfags to fuck off
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>>155284839
>release date: TBA 2016
Thanks Low-Rez
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how's thrall
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>>155284830
which fits me since I'm a shit player.
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>>155285253
the fuck is wrong with you.

>>155285179
Pip is pretty good but most newbie Pips don't bother healing anyone but themselves.
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>>155285364
>healing other
What do you think this is ? A team game? The only thing that matter is your K/D ratio.
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>>155285259
>wanting to play on console
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remove overtime
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>>155282583
Added. First 3 people who filled it out will need to update their response.
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>>155285564
Can you add NA to CopperBlood? I can't edit the google form.
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>>155285656
got ya.
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>>155282168
I wish nobody picked Kinessa. Always the most useless team member that costs whole games by never doing objectives.
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>>155269365
Ying x Fernando
Beauty and cuteness
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>>155277367
I wish Juju stopped playing this garbage game nobody cares about and at least switched to pallydindus. He's a really nice and chill dude.

When will Blunderborn go f2p anyway? Before the end of the year?
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>>155278032
>Ashly Burch

yeah that sjw turbo cunt, how fittingly annoying
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>>155269365
Ying x Me is the only OTP
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>>155286471
sure Fernando
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>>155278032
>Ashley Burch

Who thought this was a good idea?
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Is there somekind of tiers list already?
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>>155278032
This is what came to mind when I first heard Evie
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>>155285547
>tfw enemy team only pushes the cart halfway but goes the rest of it in overtime
God fucking damnit
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>>155286528
kys
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>Play Bomb king
>Buck and Skye call me useless
>Buck and Skye 5 / 20 k:d
>Last payload push
>"Give your king a big hug"
>Quadra
>Enemy Barik looks at us and just goes back to the spawn
>Top Score
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FERNANDO IS LITERALLY REINHARDT

CASSIE IS LITERALLY HANZO

BOMB KING IS LITERALLY JUNKRAT

VIKTOR IS LITERALLY SOLDIER 76

BARIK IS LITERALLY TORBJORN

ANDROXUS IS LITERALLY REAPER AND MCREE

MAKOA IS LITERALLY ROADHOG
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>>155287754
go back to your general
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>>155287784
RUCKUS IS LITERALLY BASTION
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>>155287754
really makes you think
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>>155286745
I'll give ya one.

Overpowered, will be nerfed:
Skye

S rank:
>Viktor
>Evie
>Pip

A rank:
>Androxus
>Makoa
>Cassie
>Grover
>Fernando

B rank:
>Grohk
>Drogoz
>Barik
>Bomb King

C rank:
>Ruckus
>Buck

D rank:
>Kinessa

Being reworked rank:
>Ying
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>>155287897
SKYE IS LITERALLY WIDOWMAKER
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>>155288047
Is Evie Really all that good?
Perhaps it's just because she's so outclassed by Skye but all she seems good for to me is getting a couple of shots off then running away
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>>155288047
>Syke
>Overpowered

t. Cassie main

get fucked ginger
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>>155288080
You are wrong buddy

SKYE TRACER
KINESSA WIDOWMAKER
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>>155288047
>Viktor
How
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>>155288294
very easy to use, good damage output, pretty deadly ult. Victor is easy to play even for noobs.
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>>155288438
>even for noobs
Yesterday I tried to get my ult of 5 times and either somebody killed me or it didn't do anything.
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>>155288262
Only her ult is OP, if they nerf the radius it should be fine.
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>>155288221
Evie is good for being hella annoying. She can stay in a fight for a long time due to her iceblock, teleport and soar. She also has really good normal attack damage. Ult is decent for throwing on an objective.


>>155288294
Viktor is easy as fuck to play. He's the go-to for shitters.
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>>155288221
Evie's shot deals 950 damage.
Her blink gives her 30% damage to her next shot
Her ice block gives her 30% damage to her next shot

30% of 950 is 285.
if you blind and hit someone point blank that's 1235 damage + one more shot that's 2185, with aggression at rank one that's 2299.

So, Evie can kill any non front liner with 2 shots, while having the most mobility in the game.

Math magic.
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>team doesn't pick a healer
>i already picked a front line
>someone switches to Barik at the last second
>no healer
>enemy team has double font line + healer and 2 dps
>lose

they can't keep getting away with this
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>>155288597
>tfw I can hardly ever hit anyone with the damn thing
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What items do you buy usually? I suppose it must be mostly hero dependent but I wouldn't mind having some quick tips about what items should be avoided or, on the contrary, picked as soon as you can.
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>>155288272
Skye is sombra anon :^)
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>opposing team has 2+ tanks
>none of your dps take the extra damage vs shield card

for what purpose
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>>155288839
It takes getting used to, but the point is to Flank behind someone.
Always use the blink range card at max rank, you can blink through 2/3 of some maps with it.
Just teleport behind someone and shoot them point blank 2 times, you can't miss it, then fly out with soar and spam V E T.
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>>155288847
Shield destroyers is must have
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>>155288847
shield wrecking is good especially if multiple people have it but if they have a shit frontliner like barik or no frontliner then it's useless but then again then their team will be most likely useless as well
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>>155288847
Moral Boost on Skye is a must to be honest.
her ult is what makes her true cancer, so you want it up asap.
You don't need Cauterize since your poison shot's also lower healing, and you shouldn't be the one shooting at tanks to need Wrecker.

Other than Pip and Evie needing 1 rank in Aggression for their kill combo, everything else depends on the enemy team.

Also, Riding is great on Barik, since you can set up your turrets before anyone even gets to the point.

Also, always take item for more healing from allies when you have a good Grover, since his heal is a constant dot.
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>>155277892
He wasn't nerfed, per se. He was retooled from a flanker with melee attacks and a spin-to-win ult into a support healer who throws his axes (again).
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>>155286151
That's bad Kinessas. A good Kinessa provides stellar overwatch for the team and helps take the point when the coast is clear. Don't blanket-ban all Kinessas.
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>>155289051
>>155289320
>>155289335
thanks
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game down or just me
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>>155289335
>Also, Riding is great on Barik, since you can set up your turrets before anyone even gets to the point.
Master Riding is good for all the tanks. Your job is to get to the front as soon as possible, so the sooner you get back in action the sooner your team can resume the offensive.
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>>155289649
Until now I had a bad game while playing with Kinessa and it was an enemy team complete stomp. Nobody blamed me but it felt completely like "useless widow" all over again.
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>>155285547
>>155287041

>Can't keep the enemy team out of the objective for 6 seconds

You don't deserve to win.
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>>155290220
maybe if re spawn times were longer sure

right now anyone can just run right into it and stall
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>>155286151
>>155289649
Kinessa's are really dependent on the match up. If they have a really good flank, they can gank you pretty often and you can't really get your damage out. OR they could all run to point down the largest sightline in the game, and you get a triple kill and support the other 2 kills.
There's a lot of factors that can change her effectiveness, but I'd say those are the two most important changes.
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>>155290313
And a good team can blow up whoever runs into it. It's not a big deal.
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>>155290220
>two flank/damages go on deathruns to restart timer and occasionally kill someone
>Fernando comes in to push it half a meter before dying
gg ez
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http://paladins.gamepedia.com/Ying

Where is she?
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>>155290526
beneath a dozen dicks
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>another dumbass team with a far too passive shit frontliner barik that rarely put up a shield and always badly placed turrets and got 3 stupid hangback DDs
>not nearly enough aggressiveness near the objectives
>I was the only one with shield destroyer despite there being 2 frontliners on the enemy team

man I am so fed up with these retards, this isn't fun when I should be the one playing 5 roles at the same time
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>>155290526
>>155290585

>>155273643
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>>155290526
drowned in cum

rip in semen
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FUCKING HATE THE USELESS SHITTERS

>inb4 level 12 characters to lvl4 and play ranked

I don't even want to look at half of the characters in this shit ...
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>>155287754
I'll bite.

Fernando doesn't have a grabbing charge. Uses a short range flamethrower. Ult is defensive, not ofensive.

Cassie doesn't have a "kill everything in a straight line" ult. Doesn't wall jump. Don't have a sonar. Don't have a panic "kill everything around me button". She has a bow. Therefore she's Hanzo. Strawberrys are also apples, because both are red.

Bombking does not have traps, nor mines. Just time bombs or trigger bombs. Ult has him repositioning himself towards the enemy.

Viktor and Soldier 76 are literally generic soldiers. We're all soldiers now. Also, Viktor doesn't have a healing field, nor an aim bot ult.

BARIK AND TORBJORN ARE LITERALLY TF2 ENGINER

Reaper has a teleport, immunity to damage, and AoE ult. Androxus has a dash, and a cannon ball projectile ult. Mcree has a revolver, a combat roll, can shot his revolver fast, and a "kill everyone on my screen ult". Androxus has a revolver and he can shoot it fast. Pears and watermelons are also the same thing because both are green. And blizzard seems to hold a patent on revolvers, bows, and being edgy.

Hoadhog has health regen, a shotgun, and a hook skill. Makoa has a cannon, spin dash, shield, and a hook skill. Scorpion has hellfire, teleport and a hook skill. Apparently blizzard also has a patent on hooks.
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How do you even open teh chat?
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>>155290313
>>155290426

And what's your excuse for them getting to the payload alive?

There's 10 meters between the objective and the base at any give map, enough to kill them.

Stop looking for excuses and get good.
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I made a Discord for easy group finding, can we put this in the next OP?

https://discord.gg/Ft9q4z5
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>>155290890
>"If we tweak small things about the character but keep the same basic layout it's not a knockoff!"
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>>155290735
>i want to be matched with the very best, even though i'm a massive shitter

You and a mountain of retards, anon.

If you don't want to be matched with them, stop being one of them.
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>>155291159
I mean it's on steam
discord isn't really needed for group finding.
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>>155291239
If you think that's "basic layout", you should go to a hospital and check for brain damage.
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>>155291283
how do I win a match when people are not even capping objectives and are mostly running around gunning eachother.
Kinessa and Skye shitters should be executed.
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>>155291239
Fernando a barik were a thing in paladins before anyone ever knew the armor guy and the torbj even existed though. People were only aware of the few that showed up in the cinematic trailer back then, and we didn't even know names.
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>>155291361
Put effort and learn how to play and you'll outlevel them. Call gg when your team is made of subhumans and you'll just be one of them.
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>>155291283
this is the dumbest post of this thread

congratulations, good sir

*tip and applause*
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>steam screenshots show grover with his old ult
>also show ruckus using old hover

Nice job lowrez. Couldn't be even bothered to take some new screenshots for the steam release.
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>>155291451
>gging shitters
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>>155268224
>game is fun
>want to play in
>reminded i dont have friends
>win round and scream well done at screen

If only more ppl would like to play this over ts or discort...
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>>155291159
quit shilling discord when nearly everyone playing this pretty much plays it through steam now that they can
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>>155291361
Come to terms with the iminent defeat.

And to be fair, Skye's job is to keep the enemy team from getting to the objective.

She's made of paper, if she sits on the objective, she's gonna get killed. She's supposed to be going on enemy territory and killing / distracting / damaging the enemy so that her team can capture the objective.

Kinessa has no excuse, she's supposed to be deploying mines everywhere, be near the objective, and sniping enemies from there. Of course, she needs the tank support, but that's true for everyone on the capture point.
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>>155291328
Fernando's shield is identical to Reinhardt's

Androxus is a reskinned Reaper

Barik is a dwarf who builds turrets

Ruckus is a little guy who pilots a large bipedal mech with a high rate of fire and a shield

Bomb King is a guy who throws bombs, can pop himself up in the air with his own bomb, and has an ult where you remote control a large spinning bomb

Makoa is a big tank who uses a chain to hook you in and blast you at close range
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>>155291670
>>
turtle man's chain is so shit, barely ever connects

>try to hook someone
>it doesn't hook them but it hooks a Pip that just jumped quickly across my screen half a second before

NICE

IS THE GAME ON FUCKING 10 TICK SERVERS
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>>155291852
>memes and funny pics
Truly a Paladins player
>>
Feeling pretty good today, got my TF2 Batik Skin, built a nice deck for him and EspanolaReinhardt.

Also nabbed some promo keys off some horrible websites for a Buck skin, Ice Witch skin and the Archer lass skin.
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>>155291121
t. suicide staller
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>>155291995
>"ad hominem"

Oh, you win this time you shitter who has no knowledge about game design!
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Has anyone made a steam group yet?
Should I make one?
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>>155292279
No, I'm not gay.
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>>155292279
If there isn't one, make one please.
I'm tired of playing with people who don't know how to push a payload or capture a point.
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>>155291670
>Having similar aspect means it's a copy

Brain damaged
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>>155292279
are you a really lazy faggot or a weeb or both? groups suffer from shit admin guys
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>>155291531
Anon, don't be butthurt
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>>155292540
If all you do is shitpost then it's better to post nothing at all.
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>>155292279
Made one:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/
PaladinsGeneral
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>decide to play a game
>wait to pick so I can get whatever we're missing
>4seconds left and no one has picked
>okay I guess I'll just pick something solid like front line
>3 flanks
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>"Paladins is better than Overwatch"
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>>155292672
>PaladinsGeneral
cant find it bud
>>155292537
>>155292405
>>155292397
I mean I just don't want any drama bullshit that usually happens in discord.
I usually take up the role to avoid that

What is the preferred abbreviation for the general?
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>>155293039
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/PaladinsGeneral
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>>155293029
No one thinks this.
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>>155291159
>expired.
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>>155293126
There are people in this general that think this unironically.
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>>155292631
You can't label everything as shitposting to feel better about your lack of skill, anon.
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>>155293598
>more irrelevant shitposting for the sake of shitposting
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>>155293584
Some people like the customization that's offered by the card system and items.

While I think OW is still more polished than this I do think Paladins is more fun for me personally just because of the card system.
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>>155293762
Does it make me bad person if I always burst out laughing at any pictures of her?
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so i played like 3 games and they were all versus bots and the game didn't tell me this, it just let me figure it out on my own

why should i play more?
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http://steamcommunity.com/groups/PaladinsGeneral

Steam group
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>>155293875
to make you feel good about yourself when you get to rank 5, play an actual game, and get fucking destroyed.
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>>155293936
i'm top500 in overwatch NA as a solo queuer, there's no real chance anyone playing this game can touch me
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>tfw you missed the chance to name yourself EarthRocker

I don't want to waste gems on that shit
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>>155293819
why would you feel bad for laughing at a vegetable?
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I can't get this stupid fucking game to work properly

the game wouldnt even launch at first, but i fixed that by reinstalling the hirez launcher

now the launcher wont even work, it gets stuck authenticating/connecting to the servers

I already tried going into Services and stopping/starting the Hirez Service
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>>155294028
touch you, maybe not. But your noob teammates will get destroyed and you will lose.
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>>155293819
no but it would weird most people out if you wanted to fuck it
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>>155294028
>>155293875
it's something you should really just shrug off

The VS AI trickery is for dumb BRs that can't figure out it's bots, to make them think they're good for a while.
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>>155294401
it's fun when kiddies post their bot match scores as if it was impressive or when they post about enemies aimbotting/hacking and they were playing a bot match
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>play on eu servers
>in the match there are two fucking asians or some shit, speaking flipanese or some shit

for fuck's sake at least stay on asian servers you dumb brown shits
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>>155294673
I never understand why people play on an online game that isn't limited to their own country and decide to only speak their language.

English isn't my first language but I always use english when I play online games.
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>>155294673
>playing a f2p game
>expecting there to be no retarded thirdworlders on the wrong server
>>
http://www.pcgamesn.com/Paladins/Paladins-open-beta-champion-giveaway
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>>155291670
Or, you know, some of these ideas aren't original in the first place? How is A SHIELD original at all?
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REMOVE KINESSA
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>>155295185
let him be, he has brain damage. If you push him too hard he'll turn into a vegetable.
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>pick a healer or a tank to round out our teamcomp
>the enemy team doesn't have either
>it's a stomp

i just want to play dude weed lmao treeman
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Good morning /owg/
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>>155295185
wow invented shields
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>>155293584
where do you think you are right now?
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>>155268224
>Trying Androxus out
>Use shadow step to jump over something and use the ultimate
>can't jump over properly and can't shoot anyone because i can't even see anyone
>My team gets wiped out
Fuck
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>>155295330
>>
>play as the sexiest man in the game
>go passive tank with cooldown and damage reduction
>just do the objective and only attack when my shield goes down
>4-0 win since my team wasn't complete shit
>medic even healed me since they were a mastery 9 pip
>enemy team gets shit on
>their Barik was absolute dog shit and retarded, he put down a shield and then just ran past it so he could be easily picked off
>someone from the enemy team sends me a friend request right after the match

okay

not adding them though since none of them were any good and I won't be their pocket tank
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>Engies and infils always outscore all other unites when used right and that is even if u are shit player :D. HA and LA actually need more skill to keep up with SPM.
>>
>do what most people do and quickly pick a DD character
>every other fucking retard does the same

not one support or frontliner

this is an auto loss

if I don't pick support or frontliner then nobody will

THIS

FUCKING

GAME
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>>155295972
wrong general, friend
ps2g is that way ->
>>
help I literally cannot play ice wife

>>155296552
do it anyways
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>>155296725
Evie is THE MOST mobile character in the game. If anyone excels at hit-and-run attacks, it's you. Use your blink and soar to get behind enemy lines, pick them off from close range with your ice staff, then blink away again.
>>
>>155296725
I picked a DD and team lost 4-0 real fast since they had 2 frontliners. I am going to take the 15 minute ban the next match if nobody fucking picks frontliner. I don't like it that I am forced to play 2 out of 4 classes in 9 out of 10 matches.

Why isn't there a fucking limit to how many characters of one class can be picked? 4 should be enough of anything. Even 4 DD and 1 tank is better than no tank.
>>
>get 327 obj time
>all other teammates have <60
WHY?
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>>155297129
because muh K/D ratio
>>
I have like 40000 gold since CBT, should I spend it on cards?
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>>155297462
spend it on your girlfriend
>>
Laugh, Taunt and Joke still use the characters voice in that VGS thing. Are there any more? When will the add voice packs to the shop? Does that one Cassie skin come with a voicepack for all VGS commands?
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>>155296940
nevermind, I figured it out.

You can blink while iceblocked, which is hilarious. Now I understand why her ult is really ehh, because she literally cannot die if you don't fuck up like I do, and you build up so much meter you can use it almost twice a round.

What items should I be buying? I went Cauterize for this specific game, but should I be going aggression to twoshot squishies that don't build blast armor? Aggression normally looks really bad, but it looks decent on her.
>>
Anyone getting lag?
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>>155298538
>You can blink while iceblocked, which is hilarious.
Not for long. Initial reports say that's going away.
>>
>America time kicks in
>Suddenly a shit ton of Overwatch posts

Hmmmmmm.

Americunts confirmed for oversensitive Blizzard cumrags.
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>>155298908
>he hasn't noticed until now
okay
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>>155298908
You wouldn't even be playing this game without Americans
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>>155299019
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amelie is the best girl!
>>
cool game

it's like playing heroes that will never come to overwatch
>>
Do you consider Cassie a counter to Skye? I do, considering her ult reveals her, she can knock her away if she gets too close, and she's hard to 100-0 burst if she rolls. She can even roll your ult.
>>
>Tells team to buy items
>Kinessa told me "don't talk, kurwa"
>Me with Barik ends up top score, Kinessa with 700 points.

I am not surprised anymore.
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>>155299926
I've gotten messed up by Cassie as Skye before. I believe it. Her dodge roll makes her naturally difficult to pin down, which doesn't work in Skye's favor when she needs to be close to do maximum damage. Lots of Cassies will panic roll when they suddenly take a lot of damage all at once or at least hear Skye's decloak noise.
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>>155299258
Brown > blueberry
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>>155298734
So what's even going to be the point of ice block then, aside from letting people back away from you and line up headshots?

The only reason it even slightly works in Overwatch is because it gives Mei practically a full heal.
>>
>>155300169
>cancer
>best girl
pick one
>>
how many maps are there? I just played on one for the first time after like 30 matches. also where are all the non-symmetrical payload maps from the closed beta??
>>
>>155300287
It can be canceled early, completely save you from certain ults like Ruckus's, give time for other cooldowns to come up, and certain cards interact with it for things like massive healing or reload.
>>
>>155298908
>>155299145
yeah be grateful you yuropoor cunt
>>
>Can't stop taking Veteran as my first item regardless of who I play
How can people stand the out of combat regen rate without it. Even a single point into it is massive and cuts out so much downtime.
>>
>>155300304
Kinessa's pretty cute though, even though most of her players are cancerous.
>>
>>155300407
There are three maps (Temple Isle, Enchanted Forest, Glacier Keep), each with their own submaps (at least three apiece).

Nonsymmetrical payload was disabled when ranked went live this last patch. It's unclear if/when it's coming back.
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>>155298538
>hasn't been any Overwatch posts for almost 2 hours
>you post this
>suddenly influx of Overfags
Nice false flag you fucking faggot, back to your general.

Also Hi-Rez is an American company you ignorant cockblower.
>>
>>155300531
I like her silly little sayings, since they make her sound well-traveled.
>Man or woman, young or old, my aim is hot and my trigger cold.
>Kick the tires, light the fires!
>>
just literally got carried by Makoa

holy fuck that guy was not dying at all
i actually felt sorry for the enemy team because they were pretty wrecking the rest of us
>>
>>155300602
Meant to link >>155298908
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>>155300495
Everything you said except the extra ammo requires you to not cancel it early though, and the heal is shit even at max rank.

Even now, using ice block without blinking is asking to get your ass kicked.
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>>155300525
non-faggot players get their hp back by either killing or damaging the enemy
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WHERE'S THE FUCKING DISCORD SERVER, I'M TIRED OF SHITTERS ...
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>>155297462
First level up a few times to get chest rolls. When you start feeling like you are taking too long to level up you should start unlocking all cards. This way you'll waste less gold and you'll also be honoring our jew overlords by following their ways.
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>>155300721
I was just listing uses. It's pretty easy to just blink+soar after you wait the full duration. If you've got the regen card, even if it is shitty, there should be no way they'll kill you before you fly outta there.
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>>155298734
but whyyyyyy
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>>155300913
Because Evie has enough options as it is.
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So in order, who is the hottest?
(My list)
Evie
Ying
Cassie
Kinessa
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>>155301285
put evie under cassie and i agree
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>>155301285
fernando
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>>155300525
>pick veteran on a damage dealer
>character gets mad at you

o-okay
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>>155301490
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>>155301490
This.
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>>155301490
Well played
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>>155301285
no skye?
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>>155300772
https://discord.gg/JcKx5
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>>155301285
Ying = Skye>Kinessa>Cassie>>>>>>>Evie
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>>155300852
Unless you ice block at full health, it's actually very easy to kill Evie out of it. Even blink isn't instant and I'm sure you know that she's made of glass even when she's in good health.
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GET IN HERE!!!!!

https://discord.gg/JcKx5
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>>155302434
That's a hell of a lot of burst if you can take her down in the 1 second between ice block going down and blink activating. If you're ice blocking in front of 3 people you probably shouldn't be there.
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>>155300772
>>155302017
>>155302478

please fuck off
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>This is the way for horses.
What could he mean
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Reminder that shipping goes against both established canon and the creators' vision for the game and therefore you are not a true fan of the game.
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>>155302817
this is no place for horses.

a darksider reference
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>>155302858
OFFICIAL OTP LIST OF /PALGEN/
>FernandoxSkye
>ViktorxEvie
>YingxBarik
>KinessaxCassie
>YiffxBuck
>Mex(You)
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>>155302575
>That's a hell of a lot of burst
It isn't. One headshot capable character can easily destroy Evie if she isn't on full health before she's able to blink out.
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>>155303029
this is shit

>no Skye x Ying for XXX uncensored elf action
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>>155303029
>KinessaxCassie

I am waiting for the fanarts.
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>>155303029
>Kinessa x Cassie
I neeeeeed this.
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>>155303029
they couldn't be worse.
>Fernando x Everybody
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>>155303029
How many fucking times do we need to go over this?
Evie lusts for the horse dong
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>>155303029
>FernandoxSkye
>Putting the two most vain characters on one pairing
Anon please.
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Fernando Onslaught Skin
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/paladins-onslaught-giveaway/1100-6443670/#
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>>155303570
man, i bought this skin today
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>>155303029
shippers need to fuck off
that shit killed /owg/
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>>155303570
Cool, thanks.

Anything else other than the Black Ice, comfy Cassie and dark Viktor codes?
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>>155303570
But I already have Ares Fernando.
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Commando Buck Skin
http://www.pcgamesn.com/Paladins/Paladins-open-beta-champion-giveaway
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>>155303931
There's Buck skin and the ones on Paladins community tab (you have to disable add blocker to see it)
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>>155303931
where do you get the black ice?
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>Playing Grohk for the first time since like CB31
>Standing on the point
>Hear enemy "BEHOLD THE DRAGON'S FURY!"
>See Drogoz bolting right towards me
>Use Ghostwalk right before he hits me and watch as he goes through me and kills a teammate standing behind me
>This happens 5 times

I feel like a dick for not taking it for the team but this was hilarious. We still won 4 - 0 too.
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>>155303993
noice
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>>155304113
www.buffed.de/Paladins-Champions-of-the-Realm-Spiel-56146/News/Beta-Evie-1208026/
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>>155303993
cool
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>play Kinessa for the first time
>just take the mine talents and teleporter talents
>everyones hitbox is a mile wide so sniping is easy
>kill skye everytime because the mines have 3 million range
>literally just casually pushed with the payload and dropped mines as we moved along
>only time i died was when the androxus would teleport behind me, but it was nothing personel so I understand


how do people manage to be so shit with this champion?
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Reminder of /palg/ ID list:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf9O7hNHKSZ-K6_89JuoNxCGsbZE5ZPlUg2bhYo0EDFw_Xlbg/viewform
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>>155304201
Instructions?
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>>155303225
as a onenight stand sure but not a longterm relationship

>>155303438
You don't understand.

>Skye thinks Fernando is an idiot
>She doesn't even feel the need to treat him like she does other men, and she doesn't bother manipulating or tricking him, because she'd feel kinda bad taking advantage of him. She acts completely herself when they hang out, by snarking and belittling him at everything he does, and questioning his idealistic beliefs.
>Fernando is a silly white knight, but he eventually performs a daring rescue, saving Skye from dire straits
>Skye realizes that Fernando is still an idiot, but ultimately a handsome, well-meaning, and kind idiot that she genuinely enjoys being with

It writes itself.
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Any EU people up for party?
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>>155304518
>Skye thinks Fernando is an idiot

and it stops there
She would assassinate him if someone paid her like 5 bucks
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>>155304394
>scroll down
>press JETZT PALADINS CODE ERHALTEN
>window opens
>solve the number question, which you'll have to google translate
>make account
>get code
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>>155304518
Fernando is a bit of a horndog, too.
>It takes a special kind of man to appoint his own Knighthood, and Fernando is that man. Hailing from the golden cliffs of Sun Spire, Fernando travels to Crosswind Hold to spread word of his fame and glory. If there's a damsel in distress, Fernando is there.
Dude knighted himself so he could get chicks.
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>>155303993
>>155303570
thanks anons
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>>155304768
but fernando is immortal. or atleast the possiblity is there.
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>>155304383
>/palg/
>banner of overwatch
sasuga
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>>155305425
Might as well embrace the memes.
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>>155303570
tnanks lad
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>>155304768
Fuck fernando and his gay shield.
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Are there any cosplayers yet?
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Fernando fucking ruins Skye completely. No fucking way you can deal with his shield, not even with maxed Wrecker.
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>>155306268
me
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>>155304518
>Fernando is a silly white knight

But he isn't, he is just pretending to be a knight for easy pussy and money.
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>>155306765
can you post anything?
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WHY DO I KEEP BEING DISCONNECTED WHEN A GAME STARTS
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>>155306948
He's not pretending to be a knight. He legitimately believes he IS a knight. It's like Napoleon taking the crown for himself instead of letting the Pope place it on his head. Fernando said "fuck you all, I'm a knight now."
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>>155306268
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that poor, poor Skye.
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>>155307282
butter face, but i'd probably still stick it in her.
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>>155306330
>assassin can't personally kill a tank

if she could then there is something very very wrong.
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So is Fernando even needed? I keep losing to teams of Cassie, Skye, Viktor, and Kinessa. The fifth enemy is just bonus and usually never a frontline, too.
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I'm so sick and tired of being paired with retards who probably don't even speak english. Isn't there a group of people who want to play as a team so I can actually have a competent game for once
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>>155307563
>stand on the point
>enemy team of 5 DPSs can't do anything about you until they kill you or your shield runs out

if you're still losing then either you're doing something wrong or your team is losing all the 1v1s somehow

Don't be afraid to just dive after people if they have no frontline, you can 1v1 most people on Fernando.
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So the Hi-Rez Wikipedia page says Paladins was announced in June 2013, but the only announcement I can find is from August last year and the Wiki page doesn't cite a source. I need to resolve a discussion with someone about the game.
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>>155307293
jesus even a support does more damage than bomb king
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>>155307731
My team never supports me and hides way far in the back or gets picked off by TDM skyes and such. I'm always alone and getting attacked by 3+ people at once when I'm on point.
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>>155303931
There's a dark viktor code? i've only got the evie, cass, buck and FERNANDO! ones
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>>155307282
Someone who remembers that Cassie actually has a short sword across the small of her back. Impressive.
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>>155281597
>>155281713

REMINDER: WE HAVE AN ID-LIST FOR IN-GAME AND A MASTER LIST FOR PEOPLE TO ADD OTHERS!
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>>155307940
It's an official giveaway via their social media. You get a viktor skin, viktor head, a horse, and a viktor gun.
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>>155307940
You can get a recolor for Viktor and his gun, as well as a new horse, but those are the social media incentives: you have to follow Paladins on Twitter, Facebook and/or YouTube to get those skins.
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>teammates already pick healers and tanks
>i get to play best girl

time's ticking, kid
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>>155308139
Guess I'll make a throwaway Twitter account.
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>>155308258
>tfw I have a throwaway twitter, facebook, and email specifically for jewish media giveaways

ohhoho, imma bad goy.
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Weird to see that this game is actually alive enough to warrant it's own general now.
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>>155268224
Threadly reminder /palgen/ won the vote
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>>155308523
/palg/ is nice and condensed, and people still know what you're talking about.
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>>155304372
They don't have the good mine upgrade cards , like me :(
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>>155308618
Well if it was so great then it shouldve won the vote now shouldnt it. we agreed on that name and a bunch of autismos want to piss themselves because >m-muh space saving
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>>155304372
Good use of mines will make or break your Kinessa play. Don't just drop them in the middle of the point where they're easily shot down; set them slightly out of the way so you still get the slow and can set up kills for yourself and others. If you end up in a boxing match with someone else, you drop a mine at your feet before you blast them with your carbine. In a perfect world, you're using a mine to cover access to yourself, so if someone gets the bright idea to try and flank you, your mine immediately evens the playing field.
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>>155308831
Because we're a democracy, and not an anarchy.
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>>155308518
That's all thanks to Steam release. There's like 30k people playing from Steam now.
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>>155309087
Since everyone is branding Paladins as "Steam's answer to Overwatch," it has a healthy niche.
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If you pick kinessa, you might as well sit in base and afk, because you are useless.
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>>155309417
Don't hate the character. Hate the players who mishandle said character.
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Do we have a drawfag yet? I need some new lewds.
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I need buddies to play with so this game can be fun.
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Kinessa's fun
EDGE is fun
Reinhardt is fun
BOMB KING is most fun

Everyone else is okay, except for Drogoz.
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Are there any Skye skin giveaways yet?
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>>155310156
Check this.
>>155281713
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>>155303570
>To enter you're going to need to fill out our form and then you must do one of the following tasks:
>Follow us on Twitter
>Follow us on Instagram
>Subscribe to our YouTube channel

dropped
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>Tfw I want to add my name on the spreadlist but I have horrible aim and would just drag people down

Damn Hi-rez give me the healslut already so I can be useful.
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>>155310458
you only need one of them, use a throwaway account
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>>155310605
I wish I had a brain when I was younger and used more throwaways.
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Would you play a time based character? Just wonderin'
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>>155309417
I carry shitters like you all day erry day.
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>>155310761
Boy that's just asking for it
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>>155310846
i thought more in the direction of a sertain flamboyant vampire
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>Paladins general
Wait what? Since when? I searched for one multiple times when I first got into the game about 6 months ago but I didn't find anything. People were mostly discussing Paladins stuff in the Smite general.

>Steam
Oh shit, it's on Steam now? I stopped playing shortly after the addition of Bomb King. I was level 30 something with all the champions unlocked, but it had gotten boring and it didn't look like the game had a future. Should I re-install? Did they wipe my progress now that it's out of closed beta?
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>>155307707
are you from EU?
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>>155310270
Not that I've seen. Call me when we get an Outlaw Kinessa giveaway.
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>>155310987
Now that sounds fun.

>>155311084
Yeah, general's back since now the game has a population. Game's doing a lot better now, ton has changed and at the very least it's worth a shot.

No they did not wipe your progress.
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>>155281597
>>155281713

We currently have a party of 3 playing right now in NA, and make sure to add yourselves to the ID list and add others!
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>>155311512
good luck if you're EU, zero playerbase
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>>155311512
Add CopperBlood to the party, hopping on now.
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>>155311512
Add MrBlueSky. Jumping on now.
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Lowest settings character models are great.
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>>155311568
>>155311512
Can't Na and Eu players play together?
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>>155311793
Are you retarded?
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>>155311910
Familia matchmaking puts EU and NA players together on purpose. HiRez added this a few patches ago.
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>>155311416
NA
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>>155312039
That was only during non peak times to speed up matchmaking was it not?
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Is it me or does friend requests not work? Been trying to add a buddy and there's no confirmation or any sign that he even got it, like a pending or something.
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Click on the + sign in-game, don't hit enter after you type his name.

It should tell you an invite is sent on your screens list if it's successful.
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>>155312319
If nothing happens, then I'm guessing the person is offline?
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>>155312195
Yeah, but if I remember right it's also used to pair laggier players with less so ones. Example: I have 200 Ping connecting to an NA server. They may take a player with good ping in EU and put him on an NA server against me with the logic that we'll both have 200 ping.
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I feel we should make more of the friend referral system, it gives a hell of a lot
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Kinessa R34 when?
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>>155312490
Ewwww
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>>155312490
Never.

She sucks enough cocks in game as it is.
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>>155312406
No, should still say it's sent. But I'm not 100% sure.

Make sure the capslock are right for his name too.
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>Wonder why I see so much Skye lately
>Find out that Hi-Rez made Skye the Flanker that's available for free instead of Evie.

When did they change this? I've had the Founder's Pack since CB29 so I don't know when it was changed.
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>Got matched against teams with no tank and no healer.

I knew one day those guys will be put in the enemy team.
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>>155312552
You mean Skye.
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>>155288047
Thanks for recommending Skye to me.
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>>155312685
You wish you cawodooty reject.
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WHAT IS HAPPENING
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Which cards are best to buy for Skye? Which ones for Fernando?
These 2 are my faves, but I'm never really sure which cards to buy for them, except the -10% damage for Fernando.
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>>155312685
>Skye
Skye is too OP and needs to be nerfed, kinessa sucks balls
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>>155312685
Is this bait?
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>>155312882
Cute.

But save your scores for when you're not playing against bots.

That will be after you get to level 5.
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>tfw disgusting skye main
>tfw im level 8 with level 8 mastery with skye
>tfw it feels so good to be bad
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>>155313009
IT IS HAPPENING
THEY TRIED TO WARN YOU
YOU DIDN'T LISTEN
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At what level do you stop getting gold and exp from bot matches?
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>>155313148
That probably explains why they have shitty names and were really bad. I'm so naive lol
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>>155313072
Skye has a "reduce your active cooldowns by XX% after a kill or elimination"

I don't remember the name. But it's vital to have it.
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>>155313237
I think I heard lvl 15.
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Could someone explain rank of heroes to me? I guess it has something to do with leaderboards? It's not showing me there but I'm master on Ghrok and platinum on barik and don't know why
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>Got in a game with a Bomb King team mate who only use basic attacks.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>155313330
It's for ranked. Which is not a thing yet.

It's broken.

Don't worry about it.
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>>155313271
I meant the cards you buy at the beginning of/between matches.
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>>155313237
13

Got to lvl 13 today and training matches stopped giving gold and exp.

>>155313330
The borders are bugged right now so people get random borders.
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>Got all Viktor cards through chests
>I suck at him
And i never got one for Cassie in the chests, fuck the chests
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Poor Evie.
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>>155313581
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>>155313742
just buy the cards with gold
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>>155313742
I don't get cassie's cards.

All she has, and her best skill, is her arrows. What else you need?

I mean, she has a bomb shoot (which is eh), a blow back, and a short escape.

Her main source of damage is still just her arrows.

What other cards do you need?
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>>155313072
skye should go kill to heal, cauterize and nimble or morale boost. the last is open for debate. fernando should go one of the damage redution cards, veteran and chronos.
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Is Fernando the only tank that can actually tank?
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>>155311485
Thank god, I get to keep my champions. One last question before I install it again: did they fix that annoying EU server issue where the killcam bugged out and never showed you how you died?
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so what's the METAGAME

Is it

>Cassie
>Fernando
>Pip
>Grover
>Evie/Skye?

I'm assuming two supports are run because they shit out damage in this game.
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>>155314293
>who is makoa
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>>155314402
Fuck metagames.
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>>155314293
makoa actually better at turteling the point
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>>155314148
Arrows aside, Cassie's best move is her dodge roll. It's an instant burst of mobility, and your next arrow shot does bonus damage. Many Cassie builds are about being as mobile as possible and hitting enemies with boosted arrow shots after a dodge roll.
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>>155314458
>>155314559
thnaks, gonna check it out
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>>155313154
Anon, I'm right there with you
Skye main for lyfe
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AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>155314830
>all dwarf look the same
go back to /pol/
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>>155314562
>>155314148
Try a build with

>Incitement IV
>Onslaught IV
>Lunge II
>Quiver I
>Territorial I

It's honestly her best setup.

Nothing better than rolling right into a fleeing skye and taking out half of her hp.
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>>155314402
Is Cassie that good?
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>>155314830
they don't even look the same
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>>155315034
>dwarf who builds turrets and has a shotgun that shoots molten metal
>TOTALLY NOT TORBJORN GUYS THEY BOTH COPIED THE ENGINEER
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA PALAKEKS THIS DELUSIONAL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA BTFO BTFO BTFO
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>>155314830
they are nothing alike
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>>155315034
I'll bite since I have nothing better to do.

So, are you telling me that Torbjorn is stolen from WoW?

They're dwarfs with shotguns who have the best tech, they even have turrets in their cities.
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When will people learn to ignore the shitposters.
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>>155315170
wow i thoguht ppl were joking when they said ppl from other games were mad lol

its f2p dude calm the fuck down
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Does Evie say "So this is despair"?
I fell in love with her solely because of that line.
I have a fetish for despair.
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>>155315251
Meant for >>155314830

Also, I've noticed that the person who shitposts about Overwatch always types the same way, so it's probably just one autist.

Ignore him.
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Thanks Paladins for making a free version of overwatch so I don't have to give blizzard money
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>>155315251
>>155315214

>>155315170
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>>155315419
(You)
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>>155315401
She says 'so this is repair'.
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is it me or Barik's turrets feel like mosquitoes rather than annoying turrets shooting you each second and making you bleed?
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>>155315415
>t.
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>>155315170
>>155315419
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>>155315401
evie is just junko with blue hair
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>>155314374
Killcam ain't perfect but it's a lot better.

>>155315585
They do 150 damage each shot. They tickle without you shooting who they're aiming at.
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>>155315415
same boat.
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Palamemes blown the fuck out

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/09/19/is-it-fair-to-call-paladins-an-overwatch-clone/#17dba5b73f61
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>>155315606
t. no t., my man, this game is fucking great, I won't even get overwatch if they have a sale now
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>>155315864
>Forbes reports on vidya

what
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Title
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>>155315928
Forbes have been doing that for years.
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>>155315864
>forbes
>adblock detected
I don't even bother
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>>155315912
>I play a worse game just because it's free
It must suck to be poor and think 40 bucks is a significant sum of money lol
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>>155315080
it's the fact that she does everything, has a good escape and burst, and can fight at every range. Viktor would also be a viable choice.

As for other DPSs, Bomb King is just awful, Drogoz is buggy and weird, and Kinessa doesn't pop shields as fast as Vik/Cassie.
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>>155316071
I enjoy the video game, which is also free, I do not see the problem here?
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>>155316131
Kinessa isn't just a "muh DPS" champion though.
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>Overwatch comes out
>"it's just a TF2 clone lol"
>Paladins comes out
>ITS NOT AN OVERWATCH CLONE UGH I CANT EVEN LIKE THEYRE ALL ORIGINAL GREAT CHARACTERS
Holy shit are Palacucks the most delusional blind fanboys on the internet
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>>155315864
>LETS REMARK VAGUE SIMILIRARITIES AND FORGET ALL THE DIFFERENCES
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>Playing as fernando
>Everyone trying to kill the other team on the other side of the map instead of helping push the cart
>They all die obviously
fuck this game
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>>155316236
no bias here, tovarisch )))))))))))))
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>>155316276
try pushing the payload as support
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>>155316258
>he didn't read the whole article
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>>155316071
I enjoy the game
And Overwatch is like 200 bucks where i live
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I'll go to sleep now. I don't want to handle the kids in this thread.
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>>155316236
What? Overwatch clearly draws very heavily from TF2. Legitimately over half the weapons they use are straight up in TF2, with vast similarities in terms of how they work.

>PSH YEAH WELL AT LEAST THEY ARENT AS RIPOFF AS THIS SHITTY PALAKEK GAME!!1

Well if Overwatch straight up ripped like half of TF2s weapons then how is it a problem that Paladins straight up rips half of Overwatches weapons?
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>>155316456
What the fuck what third world shithole do you live in
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Daily reminder that Reddit has a community for this game and it has worse autism than this general.
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>>155306092
>>155306092
>Fernando's Shield
>Buy shieldbreaker or use Bomb King

...Unless you have already one and he's fucking shit
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>>155316456
>>155316540
Stop responding to bait.
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>>155316626
Seriously?
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>>155316626
Are you this bored?
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>>155315742
what's up with Grohk's killcam? It makes it look like his weapon's beam follow you around
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>>155316676
Last time I went there it's mostly overwatch converts. That's why the OWfags hate it.
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So is this game cool like smite? And by that I mean if I spend gold on a character and then buy the founder pack, will I be refunded the gold I spent like in smite?
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Holy shit you're ALL fucking retarded just SHUT THE FUCK UP.

BOTH sides of this autistic shitfit are pure cringe.

Paladins haters:
>WAAHHHHH THEY COPIED MY GAME I'LL SHITPOST YOUR THREAD

Overwatch haters:
>YOUR GAME IS MADE BY BLIZZARD AND ITS POPULAR SO ITS AUTOMATICALLY BAD LOLOLOL

Holy fuck you're all autistic as hell. I have both games and they're BOTH great for different reasons. NONE of you have a legitimate reason to hate either game. "Muh Overwatch knockoff" isn't a legitimate reason to hate Paladins. "Muh Blizzard boogeyman" isn't a legitimate reason to hate Overwatch.

Grow the fuck up, the lot of you.
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Gimme some Barik loadouts!
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>>155316809
Yes
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Why does border around my character avatar at picking screen randomly changes to gold/bronze/silver?

Is there any point in opening chests right now? Because all you get from them are cards and they are dirty cheap. I think it's worth to save them up, mabe in future they will drop something different? Like cheap skins in overwatch?

What is the max profile level and mastery level? What kind of bonus do you get when you get to the max level?
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>>155315585
Barik's Turrets have been nerfed multiple times.They used to deal 165 Damage every 0.7 seconds but eventually the damage got lowered to 150 Damage every 0.7 seconds and with this recent patch the Turret rate of fire got lowered from 150 damage every 0.7 seconds to 150 damage every 1 second.
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>>155316803
Ahhh that explains a lot.

>>155316809
Yes you're refunded. Not sure if you're refunded crystals but why the fuck would anyone ever buy a champ with crystals.

>>155316881
Hump your turrets until you win. If they have a Drogoz god bless your soul.
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>>155316986
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>>155316560
Brazil, all games are fucking expensive here, but this one took the cake this year
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The only reason I don't like overwatch is because it has input delay and gross mouse movement.
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>>155316071
>worse
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Evie makes me cum sooooo hard
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HIT ME UP WITH SOME ANDROXUS BUILDS BOYS
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>>155317945
The 'Kill yourself for playing such a braindead and overpowered hero' build.
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>>155318058
I'm expecting nerfs but I'l still play him regardless.
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>>155316974
please respond
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Quick question about this general
www,strawpoll.me/11267813
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This game so fucking retarded. There's INSANE bullet lag. I watch my deaths and just about every single one is from insanely huge bullet lag, including being shot through walls.

The enemy miss by an entire crosshair and it STILL counts as a hit. Like holy fuck. No CoD is even this bad.
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i need an adult
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>>155316881
I use this
>Foundation 2
>Forged Alloy 3
>Field Deploy 1
>Healing station 3
>Combat repair 3

You can change Field Deploy with Palisade if you prefer.

Enjoy your wins
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>>155318181
>Why does border around my character avatar at picking screen randomly changes to gold/bronze/silver?
Competitive is broken at the moment. When it's fixed, your rank with each champion you've played in competitive will be reflected by an associated border.

>Is there any point in opening chests right now? Because all you get from them are cards and they are dirty cheap. I think it's worth to save them up, mabe in future they will drop something different? Like cheap skins in overwatch?
They have a chance of dropping skins. It used to be 5 cards in a chest and each card had a 1% chance of a skin, but I'm not sure what the probabilities are now.

>What is the max profile level and mastery level?
Infinite level cap. Mastery level 25, for which you get massive gold or something like that.
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>>155318560
Oh fuck me sideways.. i need this now
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>>155318181
Borders are bugged right now, just ignore.

Chest do contain skins but if you want I guess you can keep them and use them later when more champs are released.

No idea on max lvl, I've seen a lvl 117 streamer so maybe there is no max lvl?
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>>155318579
>>155316986

How to play barik well?

I always feel like I do no damage and my shield dies instantly

How should I be positioning my turrets? Right next to me?
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Do any of you have any good loadouts for blue spiritual shrek of lightning? He seems fun to play but what should I focus on?
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POST LEWDS I NEED LEWDS
N

O

W
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>>155319220
>Hi-Rez game
>lewd
Smite barely have any good porn
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>>155318560
Skye's ass is perfection
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>>155319126
I play one survival one which is super fun.

>Healing rain 4
>Gale 4
>Haunting 2
>Crackle
>Outreach

You can change the last two as you want. The problem with this build is that you have to be super close to get any heals on your teammates, but your own survivability is golden. Just time your Ghost walk properly to get the reduced totem cooldown and you can own.

I play it super aggressively on the point so I usually pick Wrecker if they have Fernando or two Front lines.
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>>155317857
this
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>>155316229
She might be picked situationally, the problem is that there are only five slots on a team so you don't have much flexibility, and unlike Overwatch, shieldbusting is a LOT easier in this game. You would probably drop your flanker or a support for her.

I'm just bronze league theorycrafting here, the game is undergoing tons of changes so who knows how things will turn out.
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>>155318560
How far out does it go? I've never gotten a good angle of Skye's ass.
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>>155320001
>>>155318560
> I've never gotten a good angle of Skye's ass.

I'm so sorry to hear this
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Why no one care about the objective?
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>tfw Troobez is a game type destined to die in the ass
>tfw games like Overmeme and Memeadins are easy to support/keep alive and are very popular
>tfw Troobez is the far better and fun game type
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>>155320161
Did you have a stroke dude
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Bomb King buff when?
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So I've just logged in after some months and I have two heroes locked (bomb dude and turtle dude). I presume all of the heroes that will come after these will also have a grind/jew wall behind them?
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>>155320254
That post seems to be written well. At least in the standards of 4chins.

Perhaps you're having the stroke, anon.
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>>155320324
yes, Smite's monetisation model, but unlike it, you can get basically every champ in a few days of playing due to short game times and high gold gain.
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>>155320001
>>155320076

Her ass has jiggle effects too
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>>155320691
ITS
SO
BIG
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>>155320691
>she has elf ears
Now I'm interested.
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>>155318560
>>155320691
"How can love be real if our waifus aren't real"
- Jaden Smith
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did they fix Last Stand?
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>>155320136

>Be Spaniardo
>Blocking the point, shielding like a maniac
>Entire enemy team focused on my for 10 hours
>Nobody on my team gets a kill during the entire duration of my shield plus dodging tanking, etc.
>We end up losing
>Total shielding done 203k
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>>155320076
ANOTHER angle, I mean.
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>>155320161
tribes wasn't making any money, maybe you tribes fags should have actually supported the game and put money into it. the mighty dollar rules all.
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>>155320850
same story here but to add insult to injury some guy called me a noob
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What is a good deck for Skye?
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>>155321172
noob
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Am I actually facing real people when I play Casual mode? I just got into the game and when I see the "join in battle against other players" description and proceed to stomp, I feel like I'm actually playing bots.

>Have 100k damage dealt
>Highest person on the other team was 19k

How.
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>>155321740
you play against bots until youre level 5
everybody did great on their first game
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Not yet amigo
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>>155320650
>Overmeme
>memeadins
>troobez
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/palgen/ ID List:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf9O7hNHKSZ-K6_89JuoNxCGsbZE5ZPlUg2bhYo0EDFw_Xlbg/viewform
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>come back to this game
>last time I played was when Cassie had Blast Shower, Drain Life, Reload build and Pip Marathon, Poison Cloud, Acid Cloud build

What the fuck happened?
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>>155324038
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X6NNDQLSytCCoExPCtt48Bq9_Sv_Ha4qZkOeHS1DcS8/edit#gid=485142380

Here's the actual list, above post is for adding your information.
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>>155323641
>paladingus
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>>155324249
>plebadins
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Who's the most OP character? My vote's for Androxus.
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>>155324104
The card system got gutted and revamped who knows how many times. Now we have pre-made card loadouts you create before the game.
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>>155325151
OP when played by scrub or skill ceiling potential?
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>>155325254
Both, just to see if there's any difference.
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>>155325151
Depends on your definition of OP. What qualifies?
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>>155325151
I'd say anyone who can aim well will be OP with any flanker
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>>155324161
how about you add the link for entry adding on the top of the actual ID list?
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>>155325328
Scrub - bomberman
Skill - Skye
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>>155325221
But wasn't the purpose of the card system to adapt to what was needed during the game not before
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can we talk about how perfect Evie is?

>gameplay-wise is basically Tracer except she twoshots you, has z-axis movement and has recall on a 4(!) second cd
>also unlike Tracer, she's actually attractive
>will stay young forever
>has the LOLRANDOM personality but is otherwise stable and her humor is subdued
>says she wants to live a normal life where she doesn't kill people so she'd probably be a good mother and wife
>Z AXIS MOVEMENT, FUCK
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Viktor is the pubstomp champ. If I had to do an overall pubstomp team, it'd be Viktor, Skye, Fernando, Ruckus and Grover/Pip.

>>155325843
That's what the burn cards - now "items" - are for. You buy and upgrade them mid-match as per your needs.
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>>155325937
>can teleport while frozen in ice

fuck evie
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>>155325937
Reminder that this is what we almost got when Hi-Rez tried to remodel her to make her look her age.
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Ah, HiRez with the copycat strategies that always work because "muh player friendly F2P business"

Truly a development studio for the free thinkers.
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>>155324104
Rupture
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>>155326147
Except Hi-Rez didn't copy Blizzard. They had the same production cycle as Overwatch and was in closed beta for a year before Overwatch reached the public.
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>>155323641
Oh, you're just new.

Welcome.
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>>155326135
The worst travesty is covering her up.
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>>155325959
I'll give it a try but so far I don't like the sound of this.
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>>155325328
Scrub Skyes will STILL score easy triple kills due to her ult.

A good Evie is literally unkillable, Skye at least has underwhelming escapes.
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Why the fuck is my match history full of games I haven't played. Most of them 0/0 at times at which I haven't even had the game turned on.
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>>155326472
You set up your loadout before the game to dictate your overall playstyle. Then, when you get in-game, you earn credits as you play the match - complete objectives, secure eliminations, etc. You use those credits to buy burn cards to further augment your champ as is necessary.
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>>155316540

Now, of course, same things were said before Overwatch released regarding the striking comparison to TF2.

However, the gap between those two games was huge and now you get this Paladins game that was in BETA, bout the same time as Overwatch (maybe a bit early than the Open BETA for OW) and releases a few months AFTER Overwatch and by that point you're just thinking: "Wow, such a desperate attempt for a cash grab from HiRez".

Also, one of the game's designers (Drybear was his twitch channel I think) was raggin' on a game called Dawngate (somewhat of a LoL copycat), so you can say karma came back with a vengeance.

With that being said, I think this was probably the smartest business decision for HiRez since their two succesful games are losing tract really, really fast, so their CEO is not as greedy or evil as some might think.
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>>155326135
She really, really needs a new voice. Either that or some type of remodel all together. Like seriously, it's like they had the idea for this crazy loli mage but then the hacks at Hirez couldn't into it but the voice was completed so they were like fuck it, make her this weird grown woman with a voice for a teenager, yeah that works.

It's retarded, and the disney style remodel they attempted to pass-off was sad.

Remodel her correctly or get a new voice-over for her.
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>>155326780
Paladins is still in beta
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>>155326780
>shittalking Dawngate

Dawngate didn't deserve to get EA'd, it wasn't even out of beta.
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>>155307794
It was announced on the SWC of that year but only one video was released and the only ones who could playthe alpha were the smite pros
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>>155326927
She sounds and looks like Lux, I don't see a problem with her voice really.

>>155327071
Dawngate had interesting ideas but had no chance to survive, no matter who was the publisher.
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>>155326927
Evie's voice could easily pass off as an adult acting immature, because, you know, it's an adult voicing her.
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>>155326721
What if they use your name for bots
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>>155327071

Much like it's counterparts, Dawngate was heavily scrutinized because it drew so much, yet you could see that there was an inkling of creativity behind it.

Now, to give a bit of context to the whole "poor man's Overwatch" meme, please remember that Drybear was responsible for creating Au Puch, a carbon copy of Gravekeeper from Heroes of Newerth, a game that heavily borrowed elements from DotA All Stars.

What I'm trying to say here is, yes, Paladins is an Overwatch clone, but then again, as long as some people have bitter and petty vendettas against some video game developer (namely Blizzard), there will always be a HiRez that will shelter them and nurture them with words like "hey g-g-guys but our game is FREE!!!"

In conclusion, these arguments have to stop, this is capitalism and this is how it works. Sure, you could say the video games entertainment industry could be more creative when it comes to application, but who are we kidding?

>>155327067
Ain't that a mighty fine bitch!
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>>155327221
Dawngate had the best ideas
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>>155325937
Do you guys have a good loadout for her?
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Dem nice melons
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>>155281597
>>155281713

Reminder for next OP to include the Google form/ID list:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf9O7hNHKSZ-K6_89JuoNxCGsbZE5ZPlUg2bhYo0EDFw_Xlbg/viewform

~~ Also make sure to add yourself to the list and add those before you in-game!
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>>155328007
hnnng, those thighs and underboob.
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>>155328095
Is anyone even online right now? 've been trying ot add people off the list and nothing happens.
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>>155327221
>>155327235
They tried redesigning her younger for a reason.

Lux sounds nothing like Evie, it's closer to Jinx. and Jinx is an example of that kind of character done well.
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>>155327991
Run whatever, but you NEED to buy blink recast level 3, it's too important. Blink range is also important.
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>>155328829
Evie is not manic-psychotic like Jinx is. She's just manic.
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>>155328362
It's a little buggy. I have to try two-three times sometimes, I make sure to get the cap sens right and use the plus button and don't press enter.

Still beta, but it does work; we were adding and playing earlier.
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>>155328884
You mean Wormhole?
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>>155329051
Not him, but yes Wormhole I is NEEDED (i disagree with them saying III is needed, it's not)

Blink distance depends on your team and the circumstances, I don't usually run it in casual since people don't usually chase me or don't have the chance to.

I'm a huge fan of Swift Witch/Great Distance as well as Killing Frost. Soar everywhere mang.
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How's Bomb King?

Buying my first Champion and he was immediately my favorite when I saw this game's characters for the first time. I feel like there's always so many DPS though, that I always end up going Fernando. He's pretty fun to play. I haven't played Bomb King but I just love the idea of him so much.
>>
I miss when I could just pick whoever I wanted instead of having to have at least one front line character.
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>>155329506
Bomb King is severely bugged such that sometimes, his damage doesn't register on his primary attacks.
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>>155329414
I find that two seconds isn't enough to secure kills, six seconds is enough time to score a double kill and blink out. There's definitely cases where 2s duration would be better though, like when you want blink to start going on cd because you don't plan on going back.
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>>155329506
He's fun as fuck but was nerfed in this patch so his damage is kinda mediocre
>>
Anyone want to play in a party right now?
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As a support player, thanks for making healer that can actually do some damage.

Really appreciate this shit so I can play battle medics.
>>
As an Ausfag in "NA" region. Is there actual Ausfat servers or am I always on American servers? I can't see if there's a ping/latency area.
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>>155307563

Fernando really depends on your team. If you're team is good, Fernando is an absolute pain in the ass (especially since the payload hitbox is completely busted). If your team is bad, Fernando will be as much dead weight as his team.
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>>155324104
Does enyone even miss the first iterations of the card sistem
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"Did I trick you?"
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This game is really addictive but I dont know why. Normally I get bored quick with games, Ive played 80 hours since it launched on steam and it has very little content.

Gf is pissed the fuck off with me but cant stop playing it, why is this shit so addictive?
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>>155329506
He does good DPS imo, haven't tried him though. His utility seems through the roof with his ult-self-bomb and shit though and the big stun bomb.
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>>155328007
I want to suck on her underboob and thighs
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>>155329763
Sure. Name?
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>>155330390
I'm on day 3-4 of a binge of this game as well.

NEET currently, and this game sucked me in when OW and others didn't. What the fuck did Hi-Rez put in this shit?
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>>155329510
What patch was this ever a thing?
I remember since the beginning either Fernando or Buck always being core picks.
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>>155329763
add me; eschew

also use the google form/ID list guys, will be useful once people start using it and it's in the OP.
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>>155315319

When 4chan finally dies.
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Hi bois anyone up for a party?
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>>155330884
UUUUUUUGHN SO THUCCK

Steam name?
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>>155319113

Barik's about area denial. You usually want one turret near you for the heals and the other one offset in a not so visable area (peferably one that can cover your back side so if soneone flanks you, you can take them out easier) You just want to be an annoying little shit holding down a position, because unless they're Kinessa or Cassie, they have to play by your rules.
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>>155331001
eschew

add me i roleplay and i'm cute
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>>155321332

>Preperation
>Cloak
>Pollute
>Quick Smoker
>Ninja
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>>155331096
DELETE THIS
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>>155331528
>No Emergency Exit
m8
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>>155331676

Emergency Exit is a crutch.
>>
anyone from eu looking to play?
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Any Bomb King loadouts? He's pretty good already, but there's always room for improvement.
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So how many maps are there? Ran into the second ice map and was confused.
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>>155332607
Since his sticky bombs are bugged as shit and don't register damage more often then they do, I'd say the best build would be one focusing on poppy bombs while throwing the grumpy bomb cooldown reduction somewhere in there because those two are actually very useful tools.
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Why does every female character in this game sound 50 years old
>>
>you cannot queue yet, you are a deserter
What in the fuck? I picked my champ' then alt-tabbed. What fucking more do they want? Buggy game.
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>>155333581
See >>155300575. Before this patch, the submaps would rotate every round, but for this patch, it's one submap the entire game.
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>>155334107
only skye sounds old, and that's intentional (skye is meant to be 60 something).
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>>155334107
I know for a fact some of the SMITE VAs pull double-duty in Paladins. Cassie shares the same VA as Neith, and the old female announcer was Artemis.
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>>155334324
I'm just interjecting, but the maps in-game are pretty awesome. I love them compared to OW (just big-ass empty rooms), gives off a TF2/CS vibe of being able to hide behind shit and use your environment to help you plan shit.
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>>155334519
Skye is a femme fatale, so of course she'll try to sound mature.
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>>155334564
https://youtu.be/c72e_uZjhQA
:^)
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>>155334806
>listening to that first 5 seconds on repeat while fapping

MHMMM
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Cassie extra bust mod when?
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>>155334852
>>155334806
1:20 - 1:30
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>>155334806
>that WE LOST line
delete this
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>>155334564
In fact, I'm pretty sure Kinessa has the same VA as Artemis.
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>see we need a support
>play pip
>enemy evie camps me the entire time
>nobody helps me
>retard tanks feed anyway

Last time I'm supporting
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>>155335636
So u sayin

Hol up

*smacks lips*

So you sayin

*adjusts gun*

You sayin like

So we wuz

We

We wuz like

So you sayin

We wuz greek goddesses n shiet?
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>>155331096
cute for a guy?
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>>155334564
Fernando shares the same VA with default Hercules, Sun Wu Xing Sun Wukong, and Dragon Knight Ao Kuang

Ying shares the same VA as default Amaterasu and Foxy Amaterasu.

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/smite.gamepedia.com/e/e6/FoxyAmaterasu_Purchase_Recommended_1.ogg

>You are now imagining Ying saying this
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>>155318321
the cam is ass and you shouldn't trust it 100% and of course the game is on very low tick servers

just suck it up like a man, you fucking blubbering pussy
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>>155336101
>https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/smite.gamepedia.com/e/e6/FoxyAmaterasu_Purchase_Recommended_1.ogg

Delete your post.
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>>155321740
Under level 5 and you play vs bots only despite the description. You can see from their names that they are bots. Most of them will make sense and won't be things like H0RS3D1CK69
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http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/20/12991600/paladins-open-beta-skin-giveaway

Skye skin, just use a garbage email.

>>155315037
This worked pretty well, thanks
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>>155334564
Both paladins' and smite's VA are managed by Funimation, so you'll hear a lot of their regular actors show up in these games.

>>155335636
You deaf son, that's aphro.
http://smite.gamepedia.com/Aphrodite_voicelines
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>>155336181
You're full of shit. Another issue I've found. Sadly just about EVERY FPS game fucks this up.

>enemy behind a piece of cover
>you can barely see the top tip of their head
>yet in their view they can see everything and the cover isn't visible

Try to defend that, cock-sucker.
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>>155336393
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/smite.gamepedia.com/d/d9/FoxyAmaterasu_Taunt_4.ogg
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>>155336541
it's like they don't want to make any money. I got a skin that isnt a recolor for Buck, Fernando, Cassie, Evie and Skye. Besides that one Fernando skin I think those are all.
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>>155336604
It really isn't bullshit, the replay system is "in development". You should have seen the first version, people were literally walking towards the wrong direction.
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>>155336854
They haven't given away the Pip, Grohk, Grover, or Ruckus 250 gem skins yet.
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>>155336101
>>155336734
DELET
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>>155336891
Hell your death quote is different for the replay and in reality.
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>>155336101
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>>155337026
No Kinessa giveaway, either.
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>>155334806
>00:34

nuttings
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>>155336541
thanks senpai
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>>155337169
Well that's a different thing. Whatever you hear on your end is not what is being played for anyone else. This is also true in smite, all of the taunts, jokes, laughs will just play one random quote from a pool.
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>>>155335687
>getting camped by Skye as Pip
>not being the one to camp her

You're supposed to be breaking even in that 1v1, supports aren't defenseless in this game unlike overwatch or tf2.
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>>155326927
I'd kill to have in game models like this.
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>>155335687
>this game
>feeding

gold advantage doesn't make a huge difference in this game
only objectives matter, fucking scrub

also learn to move instead of standing still behind the tank
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>>155337461
I imagine her animations moving so janky though in that graphical form. it would just look weird when she's frozen too.
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>>155336541
what am I supposed to do here?

i signed up via email(the first option), didn't get anything
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>>155330336
Her model looks crap. They need to improve it.
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>>155337571
should appear on the page in the little social media giveaway box area. sign up to their steam group, or twitter and it'll spit out a code in return after it confirms.
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>>155337485
It does.
Lets you buy your burn card much faster.
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came here just to ask this

How the fuck do I fix "HiRez Proxy Launch stopped working"
Yes I googled it, tried uninstalling and installing it again. Still didn't work.
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>>155337417

>Sniper
>Defenseless

what did he mean by this?
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>>155336604
>You're full of shit.

fuck off, you ignorant rude cunt

YOU are the one who is full of shit
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>>155326135
I sometimes wonder how much time and money they lost because of this blunder

I'm sure they had planned to rework all other characters into this style too so there is probably stuff that never made it to the public's eyes
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>>155337571
>>155337687
yeah nevermind I'm retarded

I got it
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what am i supposed to do with grover's vine?

pls help me get good with him he's so fun but i havent been using his vine when i feel like i should be
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>>155337913
>money they lost

probably none? it was a low-effort reskin at most. All they did was waste time. It was just a failed attempt to make Evie look younger. but all they did was make her look stupid.
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>>155337802
launch the game in admin mode?
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>>155337704
just like I said, the difference is not big enough

you can win the match with just two full and quick pushes

ONLY the objectives matter, fucking scrub and the sooner you realize the more wins you get but I guess you're one of those KDR shitters that lose matches but then gloat about their camped kills
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This game was fun for the first 10 hours but now its just "play fernando to win"

I wonder if overwatch have more variety, now I kinda like this games
>>
>>155337992
it's just mobility. See a Buck or a Evie jump after you, vine away.

use it on walls or ceilings behind enemies so you can meme on them with your max reload speed axes
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>>155338219
This post is a joke right? Just grab wrecker, Fernando's now useless. Play Ruckus with this if you REALLY need to shred a shield.
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>>155338084
Anon, time is money. Literally, all the people that worked on this had to be paid, they legit thought this would be a good idea so they probably had shit prepared for it and all, but it was a big setback.

Also it wasn't just a small model change. I had compared both models back then and they had actually made most of the models from scratch. The only thing they seemed to reuse was her hands, which is why they look so big and out of place.
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>>155338297
You still need to do 7,5k dmg while people snipe you behind the shield
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>>155338219
when you meet non-retarrded teams with 3 or more people with shield wrecker or 2 high damaging DD players that are good, you will stop winning as Fernando
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I stopped playing this game shortly after Evie was introduced and while the devs were trying out having players level up retardedly fast and be able to change their cards

planning to come back, installing right now: did they decide to keep that fast-paced system in the end? how much did the game change?
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>>155338397
Which is easy with a team. Seriously familia he's considered an average character.
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>got free buck skin and char unlock, evie skin and char unlock, skye skin, fernando skin

everything turned out better than expected
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>>155338528
You stopped playing after Evie?

Bro, the game is unrecognizable now.
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>>155338219
replace Fernando with Reinhardt and it's the same thing

Except Reinhardt is infinitely more annoying to play against because his shield never dies and he can keep it as long as it doesn't break. That, and Rein shits out damage and can oneshot squishies with his charge. Overwatch allows multiple of the same heroes so 2x Rein was the tryhard thing to do before it got removed for competitive.
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>>155338587
I bought the founder's pack, so I already own everyone, but now I have Cassie's, Buck's, Skye's, Evie's and Fernando's skins (plus God of War Nando from the founder's pack).

Hi-Rez does a bunch more giveaways like this, so keep an eye out.

>>155338721
Paladins shields are WAY easier to break than Overwatch shields.
>>
>>155338229
I try to stick to the lore and use it to grapple high upon other trees so I hit them and go flying off onto rooftops and shit.
>>
>>155338219
From what I understand, and also a bit of my own experience playing ow, ow has more variety only because it has more characters, but ow has a stricter meta. Theres like 10 meta heroes, and the rest theres absolutely zero reason to play because the others do what they do better.


i'd say right now in paladins the balance is ok, maybe skye and evie, and viktor could use some small adjustments.
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>>155319220
I'll draw whatever you want, as long as whatever it is you want involves Evie.
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>>155338229
grover does not benefit from reload speed, sadly.
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>>155337210
I also forgot about Snapdragon Ying but I guess you can't really consider that while she's still disabled.
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>>155338219
OW feels tighter and has better map design. Other than that they are pretty much the same.
>>
>>155338846
Evie using icecubes to play with Skye's nipples.
>>
is playing fernando the easiest way to make money?
just stand on the point with your shield and absorb damage. you can get 120-150 gold per match for this and get it doubled if your team wins.
>>
>>155338608
welp, I was a shit player, guess learning from scratch won't be that much of an issue

is Grohk good now?
>>
>>155338528
A few people are being whiny about it because they wanted hirez to keep the game a certain way, but all in all the game is much better. Card system is less confusing, mount nonsense is gone except for when respawning, they stuck with a singular mode(though I would like to see survival back), all around it's better imo.

It's also getting great feedback on Steam, which I highly doubt it would've gotten if this had been the old version of the game.
>>
>play Ruckus while we have another frontliner Barik
>think "sheeeiiit dis shud b an ez push nigga"
>Barik hangs back most of the time and only helps half the time with a shield
>aggressively stand on objective contesting and capping it and being the only one to concentrate shield wrecker damage on their single tank Fernando
>nobody on my team tries to hit him from behind the entire match
>Barik actually tells me to stand back while he should be pushing with me constantly
>last tight as fuck push where I am doing all the work to try and finish off a dying Fernando while pushing and shielding on my own right before the last objective area
>nobody on my shit team is trying to quickly finishing him off by just going behind him and hitting him with single shot
>I finally kill him under heavy enemy fire and win the match for us

that match was a lot of work just by myself and lots of deaths
>>
>>155339175
I'm glad, I can respect devs realizing listening to player feedback is not always the best course of action
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>2 hours played
>posts review

this guy probably got his shit pushed in by a drogoz bot
>>
>>155339425
topkek

this makes bad reviews with low time so much better.
>>
>>155301490
This.
>>
>>155337902
>get blown out
>uhh....i'll just repeat what someone else said
>>
pls give me good grover and drogoz loadouts
should i just copy the guys on the top of the leaderboards?
>>
I haven't played Paladins in close to 6 months.

Does Evie still shout "MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" when you use her I'm the Greatest command and can you still spam it? The most fun I had in a game was when someone just kept spamming that the entire match.
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>shitter picks Grover and never heals and is never on the point or in the fight at all
>>
>>155339549
But that's not what happened at all, you dense fuck.
>>
>>155339624
go ahead, or learn the chars better by using builds you make for janky goodness (max out a talent, learn it's weaknesses and shit).

if you ever play comp, you're gonna need to know all the shit that weighs into fights and can be used by enemies.
>>
>>155339682
Learn to read tbqh
>>
>>155339642
they locked the vioices behind a paywall like in smite

im sorry anon, you'll have to give your shekels to spam MMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>155339642
AHAHAHAH HE DOESN'T KNOW
>>
>>155339669
>pick grover
>start capping point
>get mowed down in instant
>turns out whole team was chasing skye around
>>
>>155339549
>make a dumb post about the kill cam
>3 people tell you that you're wrong and you shouldn't trust it
>still make a third dumb asspained post after being rekt

Just leave, overcunt.
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>>155303029
But how about Pip?
>>
Got free Buck and free Skye. Are there others for us goyim?
>>
>>155339754
But that's not what happened, you idiotic fuck. You are quite frankly a real genuine retard.
>>
>>155339848
>>155340007
>people shill and defend a beta
>project onto others about a different game
Sad. Also it's just fact that the game is buggy as fuck, it's a beta. Also you've all conveniently ignored >>155336604
>>
tfw have to pick a Wrecker on Skye because nobody takes one, meanwhile they have Barik and Makoa ...
>>
So I just installed the client, anyone wants to add me as a referrer? I'll pick the first one to respond. P-pls respond.
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>>155336541
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>>155339952
There were free Cassie, Evie and Nando earlier.
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>>155340081
I don't shill this game at all anywhere and haven't told anyone to get it in the short time I've played it so far. I am not defending it either, me and a couple of others just told you the kill cam is buggy. But since you are an overcunt (you just admitted it), you go into this full retard spergy and rude shitpost mode from my first reply to your dumb post about the killcam.

Like I said. You are a genuine fucking retard. Thanks for confirming it with every reply you make.
Just fuck off back to /owg/, dumb cunt.
>>
>>155339952
howd you get buck? i for evie from some spanish site
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>>155340483
How can someone go back to somewhere they haven't been? Seems like you've been there, why don't you go back? You're so touchy and full of projection.

>complaining about someone being """""""""rude""""""""""
How new.
>>
>>155340485
read the thread, shitter
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>>155303398
Horses last about 6 seconds and only ever get half of their dong in, leaving about 5-4 inches.

>Stallions
>Ever
>>
>>155340593
>he doesn't know

ok now I am telling you to back to r/Overwatch or whatever it is called over there, you dumb shitposting newshitter who doesn't even know dank meemz

>calls someone touchy when you yourself go into full shitpost mode after a post that is actually trying to help you

the killcam is bugged
now get over it, dumb overcunt pleb
>>
>>155339814
>>155339764

Gamesux.
>>
>>155340932
Yes, yes it does. Spare yourself of hearing their default voicepack too if you haven't already started updating, it's so fucking bad.
>>
>>155341020

I don't even have it installed, I deleted it a while ago. I was considering redownloading it but now I don't even want to.

RIP Evie.
>>
>>155330390
>>155330637

Quick, short matches. Fun, and yet deep gameplay. Not so team work dependent as your average MOBA, so a lot less frustration, which also leads back to the short matches, less time invested = less frustration after a bad game.

Also, a lot of potential, in the back of everyone's mind is the other maps / champions / gamemodes that can / will / might be released.
>>
>>155339425
>insentive
Spic detected
>>
>>155341020

>that Woohoo from Announcer Guy

IT's so bad, it wraps around to being ironically good.
>>
>>155340828
Little kiddie is still fixated on everyone they don't like being from Overwatch despite the lack of evidence.

Cute.
>>
>>155341020
>>155341707
woohoo
>>
make new thread

we can also die here, that's cool too
>>
It's funny seeing all the attention Hi-Rez is giving to the "Paladins is an Overwatch clone!!!" stuff
>>
>>155341814
Ok!
Ok!
Awesome!
No!
>>
>>155334806
What's with all those weird voice lines?

That's.... a lot of random interjections, mumblings and gruntings.
>>
>>155341606

>deep

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>
>>155341121
I honestly can't say I blame you. I play a little bit nowadays, and every time someone uses the VGS system I just want to VVGQ them, but I stop myself because I don't want to hear that fuck speak anymore than I already have too.
>>
>>155341708
>little kiddie

so that is the full extent of your shitposting abilities? okay, paladins 1 - 0 overshitters
>>
>>155341121
You're dropping the game because of one voiceline?
>>
New thread: >>155342381
>>
>play ruckus
>enemy team has 2 FL, 3 DD
>despite telling my team to get shield wrecker they of course don't
>lose middle objective twice in a row
>when I or support die the rest just let the cart get pushed full speed while they are too chicken to come out from behind their cover
>at least my Grover support doesn't suck and sticks with me and heals
>third time win the middle and push the cart all the way up their anus and win

I wonder if the support read my "ilu support" message
>>
Is it wrong to take Victor before anyone else can?
>>
>>155341707
Kinessa (after hitting 3 full charged snipes)
VEG "I'm the greatest!"

Fernando (alone, on the objective, with a single rain cloud above him)
VEW "Woohoo"
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>>155342118
Cards that customize your character mechanics? Which you can arrange various different decks and change between them depending on the enemy team? Not to mention the burn cards....
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