/hsg/ hearthstone general

>first thread by 10 seconds
You got lucky

>hearthstone: heroes of warcraft
>virtual card game without the restriction of physical cards to prevent rebalance
>devs never want to balance shit
>only "print" new cards to powercreep old ones
>wild is a meme format
>tournament players so tired of imbalance they're beginning to ban cards

Is this how Hearthstone dies?
Why can't Blizzard into card game balance like Blizzard or Shadowverse?

>>155266454
first 10 for duelyst is a much better game

ded gaem

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>>155266454

>People think MTG is over-complicated sometimes

>>155266593
Shadowverse only has decent card game balance because they're a newer card game. That's the trap force of will made people think too when it was new, then it embodied card game power creep so much that decks were basically unplayable every other set.

>>155266648
Faeria is even better if you're looking for an even less casual experience.

repost because new thread

>>155266426
>hearthstone and wow will only die when a game franchise with a better universe and lore comes along.

Better lore AND a good game.
Which is quite hard to get because games made about lore/to get some fanbase shekels are usually fucking terrible buggy rushed piece of shit with zero effort put in beside the lore.

I'd rather say that WoW will die when a new revolutionary game type appears.

WoW won't ever be killed by an MMORPG;
It'll be killed by the next big thing.

>>155266454
who is this semen demon and how is she related to fucking hearthstone

>>155266658
if trump wins, will magic go f2p?

>>155266593
Making basic and classic evergreen is so stupid, not only we have to deal with cards like bullshit hammer and ice block forever, but the game can only powercreep because printing worse cards just mean they won't see any play

Having a rotational format like MTG's standard at least means you can de-powercreep a format so other kinds of archetypes see more play

Wow, found someone on Twitch might be legit mentally ill/tourettes.

vanqswisher

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>The fishes are dancing!!!

Who /shadowverse/ here and ready for Darkness Evolved?

I hope there's more big titted waifus on the expansion

>>155266706
>>155266648
If you're gonna play a card game you might as well play something that has a physical version, like Magic or Yugioh, so you can win money every week from tournaments.

>>155266658
it was designed as a physical game every attempt to turn the game digital results in a clunky. tedious mess

>>155266726
Hearthstone might not die but it will shrink to a joke similar to WoW where 90% of the player base are just casuals that come back to check new expansions.

>>155266775

there's a female hearthstone streamer that has mental health issues, she milks it for donations

Why can't magic just make a good video game for once, so I don't have to play this shitty card game.

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>>155266706
Don't know about better, but the land placing mechanic certainly seems to add an extra layer of complexity.

>>155266808
People are already doing this

Even streamers barely have the energy to play the game

>>155266838
I'd milk her for donations

Is she cute?

>>155266787
you need money to invest and a community near you for that

>>155266808
It's already like this family, the last adventure barely shifted the meta. We're playing the same shit we've always been playing. Arcane giant just made yogg decks more powerful

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>>155266706
>Faeria

>>155266880
Yeah, I've written it kind of badly. What I meant is that Faeria is less casual because games take a bit longer but it provides more depth at the same time.

>>155266864
If Yugioh ever made a game that they actually updated, they'd probably be actually worth getting into.

Seriously what the fuck is the deal, konami? You're a goddamned video game company in charge of the best selling TCG across the entire world (probably second or third in America) and you can't give us the type of unity-tier spaghetti code Hearthstone has?

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>>155266734
She is Zeriyah, she went from

>hooker
>to modeling
>to cosplayer
>to streamer
>to being hired by Blizzard as Hearthstone community forum manager
>married a young blizzard guy
>then moved to WoW community forum manager

and now she streams social eating

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Lost a game at 1 win due to dc - will I make 12?

Missing is North Sea Kraken

>>155267067
>yugioh online card game

Oh boy it's history time
Did you know Konami fucked over their online playerbase like not even Blizzard could do it?

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>>155266778
>Weebstone

What's the easiest emulator to get to work on PC?

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>>155267067
But Yu-gi-oh has retarded powercreep and no formats, and even Konami said that if people like balancing and diverse format they should play MTG

>Blizzard devs afraid to print more powerful cards in a rotating format
>Afraid to nerf/buff cards because their statistics black magic told them changing cards results in less card pack sales
>People play the same decks that have been powerful for the past 6 months plus/minus 2-3 cards
>1 mana purify was "too powerful"

lol haha

>tfw no (you)s

>>155267248
>1 mana purify was "too powerful"

That's such a bullshit argument, power word shiled is not an auto-include and if people were trying combo decks and using it to cycle it, let them, at least would've spawned a new archetype instead of the one week meme of silence priest

>>155266880
>>155267215
What's this semen demon facebook profile?
Im already fapping.

And I would recommend Bluestacks or Leaproid.
Both have issues regarding crashes, but people say that Leaproid almost never does.

The main issue is that in any emu you use, if you play against the vampire dude on history mode his playing field makes the game crash.
Hundreds of persons have reported that bug, however for some reason Kripp never crashed there on his stream and he was using bluestacks.

>>155266593
>>155266702

Thing is (for Hearthstone) Blizzard is forcing the power creep just to shake up the meta.

Everyone plays bullshit decks, Blizzard add balanced cards? Everyone keeps playing the bullshit decks, so the game is stale.

The only way they stop that is adding cards that enable even more bullshit, so people drop their now-obsolete bullshit.

Dragon decks aren't popular! So let's add 2 mana 3-3 chargers. Now people play dragons.
...2 months later...
But murloc decks aren't popular!
can't add 2 mana 3-3 chargers because that won't shake the meta. And can't add 2 mana 4-4 chargers, people will call powercreep because straight upgrade. So let's add 1 mana 2-2 charger divine shields murlocs!

and so on until the end of time.
Blizzard doesn't want to accept the risk of any expansion to fall flat, so they'll make everything more and more OP as fuck.

I mean, if they release expansion A and 3 months later expansion B...
If people don't play B cards, it's a failure.
But if people mostly stops playing A to play B... what it means is that if the expansions had been released B first and then A, no one would've switched when A was added.

They can't accept that, and the only way to ensure that is what they're doing now; Every new set is stronger than the one before. Maybe not the entire set, but the strong cards of a set will always be stronger than the strong cards of the previous one.

Too hard to make them exactly as good, and if they accidentally make them less good, no one will buy packs to get them, and some will quit the game over a stale meta.

>>155267386
.com/Jessicajessicajessica1987

And thanks.

>>155267289
>warrior adds me after game
>he's just mad at me for "dragging out the game"
It's like he doesn't know what a warrior does.

>>155267465
Hmm it's a shame Blizzard can't take risks in designing interesting cards that will see play in viable decks because it's literally impossible to change how a card behaves once it's released in a digital game.

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remember when people thought tgt would slow the game into a control meta

>>155267708
this game doesnt and never has had control, only wallet warrior

>>155267225
Yugioh has good power creep like what hearthstone desperately needs because it encourages you to use old cards because they work just as often as the webm you just posted of synchro wombo combo.
>What do you mean Blue-Eyes is the best deck in the game right now?
>And Dark Magician is a viable rogue topping events?
>You can steal games with the toons/red-eyes stuff I had from when I was a kid and play Rank 4 spam with my harpie ladies?
The banlist is a good thing, power plays like synchro combos are actually really bad because they work as often as something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=q2CzqqINh5s#t=1986 except you try to expect it as your win condition every single game.

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Dust Deathwing?

>>155267486
I can't believe that the game still doesn't have a chat after so long.

I mean sure people would just trash talk each other, but that's what people do in every other game, why is it different?
If they add an option to disable it it's win-win. (or win-neutral).

Adding people after (not even during!) the game to talk to them, wtf is this a 1980's game?

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>>155267465
>>155267632
Blizzard design philosophy is really similar to Konami regarding the powercreep to make sets sell and that is just a time bomb, just look at Yugioh, the game is complete garbage with games ending on 1-3 turns and decks which ideal scenario is make set ups where your opponent can't even play 1 card because otherwise you just can't win against other absurd decks.

Which is retarded because Wizards is sucessful with the policy of fresh decks every 3 months without powercreeping the old ones.
And people still buy shit in mass because new sells anyway.
For example I got G/W tokens from last season, the deck with the new expansion got a lot of new toys, but is still even on the playing field with new decks being released and other old decks still play even against it.

>>155267981
Not having a chat is so bullshit. The game already has a chat in it, just make it so opponents can't speak to each other. And if they say bullshit, just silence them and report them

>>155267975
Do you absolutely need a different legendary now? One that's better than Deathwing?

If not someday Deathwing could potentially be balanced a bit and then you get a free 3200 dust from it. Or a deck using deathwing is the new meta you want to build and you have to recraft it when you had a gold one.

>>155268125
>and report them

that's exactly why there isn't a real chat.
do you have any idea how coddled and soft the vast majority of gamers are? I can't imagine the sheer number of reports that would flood in day after day.

>>155268054
That's only right if you look at the absolute best decks and you're comparing them to decks from back during 2012 or so that haven't had support in forever. As >>155267835 said, Toons, the shit Pegasus used in the first season, got some recent support and now it's a rogue deck that can occasionally steal games and probably top a locals every now and then if you're dedicated to playing it.

>>155268125
I want this so bad, ive been friend requested a couple of times but never accepted in time for them to tell me off for missplaying :<

>>155267215
>>155266880
>you will never be a big titted qt

feels bad

>>155268337
>have nothing to stop hunter from killing me
>swing into what I already knew was an explosive trap
>they say oops like I was too retarded to guess that
Being treated like an idiot infuriates me.
These emotes are worse than real chat.

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>>155268484
>getting mad about emotes
<Wow...

>>155267215
why are western asians so flabby and disgusting?
is it the diet? lifestyle?

this shit ain't even THICC, its just cellulite ridden fatness

>>155268484
>These emotes are worse than real chat

This, emotes just incentiveze with childish behavior, with chat at least you could actually reply to them or just outright report them

But no, emotes are a a-okay, so we have to deal with "Heh, greetings" forever

>>155268484
nothing is better than emoting wow befoer ending a game with somone that thought they were smarter than you tho

>>155268690
>there's anything flabby or disgusting in that picture

welcome to gay

>>155268734
whoever emotes last emotes the best

>freezing trap is a real card
>someone designed this
>its free now
what the fuck

>>155268913
I emote WOW on Morgl for literally every single yogg spell and I'm sure it annoys the fuck out of my opponent when I beat them anyway

>>155269115

jaina is the top tier wow lad

>>155268690
>that
>flabby and disgusting

you fucking wot

>Bow down before the god of death...
Sound of Ben Brode cackling in the distance

>>155269225
Anduin has a pretty great sarcastic Wow... though.

Not sure if I want to decrease the cost and have it target self to make it a net-negative on Health gain.
Feels too similar to Explosive Trap in it's current incarnation.

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>>155269474
Also I'm fuckin retarded and can't attach images.

>Play well; get shit rng lose.
>Play well; get good rng. win.
>Play like shit; get good rng, win.
>Play like shit; get shit rng. lose.
I'm sensing a pattern here

>>155269703
>relying on RNG instead of just filling your deck with 1-3 drops so you can always win by turn 5-6 no matter what you draw
That's your own fault, my man.

>counterpicked every game even while switching decks
does blizzard have just force you to lose to maintain a ratio or something

>>155269579
why not just a 0/5 abomination

>>155269579
>consecration + healing for 1 less mana
kys my man

>>155269775
piss off guldan

>>155269841
>Slyvannas
>Mind control AND a 5/5 for 4 less mana.
Kys my man.

>>155269997
yeah but mind control is a priest card so its supposed to be awful like all the rest of them

>>155269825
Wanted to have a mechanic that manipulated Health/Armor. Armor breaking is something we've yet to see.

>>155269841
>activated on opponent's turn
Not the same thing, they can control it and play minions on the same turn.

>>155269997
>mind control is random

>>155269841
explosive trap + flash heal

>>155267342
>power word shield is not an auto-include

What? Pretty much every single Priest deck has always been included except for decks who purposely cut it for experimental reasons.

Power Word: Shield is to Priest as Frostbolt is to Mage, or Fiery War Axe is to Warrior.

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>>155260725
>Gul'dan hasn't been cancer in awhile

>>155270198
It's certainly unexpected to find anti-control cuckduin's.

>>155270591
it's just too bad fwa/frostbolt are better cards

I have pretty much exactly 1600 dust and all I need to make Malygos Druid is Maly himself. What do you think, /hgg/? Is this another meme deck or is it worth it? I have basically every other playable lego besides Cairne, Ysera, and Cenarius.

>>155270790
Even outside Maly Druid, Maly Rogue is fun too. So if druid ends up disappointing, it's not a waste.

>>155270835

Fair point. I also play a lot of Mage (less now that they've made the class 100% RNG based -- sorry, I mean the whole game 100% RNG based).

I've always wanted to launch 8 shot magic missles at people. Can't really go wrong.

>>155270979
live the dream by playing barnes into maly turn 8 with some kind of protection, topdeck maly turn 9 and summon it, double faceless manipulator turn 10, and then coin into 23 damage magic missile

eat your heart out, c'thun

>>155270589
>armor gain is the same as healing
>counterable secrets are the same as uncounterable continous effects
>two low cost cards combined into another low cost card shouldn't cost a little bit more espically when both of those cards are class cards already

>>155271112

truly this is what memes are made of

>>155271112
You could probably realistically pull off the maly into double manipulator part without trying too hard.

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>>155271240
>>155271112
>>155270979
>>155270835
>>155270790
>>155271361
>Malygos
>the Aspect of MAGIC
>there never has been a single mage deck that uses him

Great flavor fail

>>155271409
I figure that's mostly because he's competing for a big drop spot with tony, and tony's 2 mana less while capitalizing on all your spells, rather than just your damage dealing ones

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>>155271409
>Mages embody magic
They're just fags for spells.
Pretty much everything in warcraft is magic.
Even the science is fucking magic.

>>155271409
yeah it's strange as hell how shaman has both spell power and full malygos decks but mage doesn't

mage has felt like a dedicated cancer class for a long time though, i doubt blizz can even conceive of giving them a normal, ok, fun deck

>>155271660
why have fun when you can have random summons based on mana cost from medivh and summoner stone???

>>155271660
Mage is the dickest class in the game.
I remember running around in battle grounds doing nothing but spamming blink and frost nova.

>>155271697
summoning stone on a stick is a neutral legendary minion so what are you talking about?

I can't wait for the Starcraft expansion....
You know they are going to do it.

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>Kripp plays Shadowverse
>most popular non-Hearthstone game by a large margin, despite being sponsored
>says he actually enjoys it
>says he plans to play it more often
>plays it off stream, including clearing the best story boss and starting ranked
>will not play it on stream unless he's getting sponsor money for it

>>155271767
>so what are you talking about?
I'm just citing poor blizzard deck design. It's kind of obvious Summoning Stone/stick+portals was meant to be a deck pushed by Karazhan.

>>155271660
>mage has felt like a dedicated cancer class for a long time though

Actually has ever been a format where Mage, Warlock and Hunter skipped being cancer and in general the "ewwww this shit again" decks?

>>155271902
is it worth it getting invested in another card game? im kinda interested in getting into a little more advanced matches like mtg but i don't know if it'll be too much too learn and shit

>>155272075
try duelyst and faeria, you're missing out.

>>155271902
I think he has and will stream it without sponsorship. Did he outright say he wouldn't?

>>155272016
I think Hunter right before Karazhan was like that just because aggro shaman was popular enough where call of the skilled was too slow. How was hunter before Old Gods?

>>155272075
I wouldn't think of them as investments, and instead think of them as timesinks. You're not realistically getting anything out of any CCG other than fun, so if Hearthstone is lacking in that aspect then it's certainly worth giving others a look. I suspect a huge share of Hearthstone's players (like WoW players) are only kept along through sunk cost fallacy.

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Rate

>>155272290
Disgusting on every level.

>>155272256
Before standard you used face hunter to prey on secret pallys and other midrange decks because you could actually win before challenger.
Even if your opponent managed to get you by the balls with massive tempo you could still win because they only had like 5 life left by turn 6/7.

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>>155272251
He did one stream between sponsorships, despite saying multiple times that he'd do more. He's spent more time playing the game off stream than playing it on a non-sponsored stream.

Maybe he just doesn't want to make it a proper side-game for streaming until the PC version is out.

>>155272539
10/10

>>155272539
It's like you don't even know the game.
Look at Rouge. It takes 3 mana to get those same stats and it's one of the deadlier things in the game.

>>155266778
more like smorcverse

>>155272553
Thats what I am waiting for. I don't like playing games on my phone.

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FIRST 12 WINS

>>155272539
Absolutely busted, no card should be allowed to go 2 for 1 so consistently at fucking 2 mana, come on, Blizzard would never print such an absolute bullshit card.

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>>155273013

>>155273021
It's okay because you pay for it with life.

>>155272290
>Play this on two
>If it doesn't die immediately your next turn is hero power pass, putting you even more behind
ebin

>>155273157
can you imagine being forced to hero power and pass, especially with a hero power that wouldnt do anything at that point in the game? that would be fucking awful

>>155273157
>behind
>while having control of the board
Even as priest you could probably get rid of anything they play and heal it back up

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>>155273128

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>>155273393
>>155273128
>>155273013
We get it dude, you're happy.

Looks like the game doesn't want me to win today. Man, I actually felt like playing today, too.

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Off a 12 win run

>>155273714
Same here
>only class I don't have a proper deck for is warrior
>get the 50 gold warrior quest
>reroll a 40 from yesterday
>get "deal 100 damage to enemy heroes"

>jump into casual with whatever I could put together
>face two wallet warriors, a tempo mage and a maly druid
in the middle of going 0-5 right now

>>155273013
man thats the best feel, congrats dude

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>>155273128
Jesus. How is your reward so much better than mine was?

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R8 my OC

>>155274292
Whooaaaa! Golden common!

>>155274398
Set it at 1/3 at 3-4 mana or 1/4 for 5, maybe 4

>>155274471
>>155274398
8 attack is already pretty stupid considering you can upgrade it twice and that just becomes an OTK.

>>155274525
That just mean Harrison becomes meta instead of secret tech.

>>155274525
>Not wanting upgrade OTK warrior to become a thing
Anon...

>>155274398
>this with Bloodsail Cultist, Upgrade and Captain Greenskin
Yeah, how about no.

>>155274576
It was a thing in the brawl which was kind of neat.

>>155274570
This can OTK as early as turn 5 before you even get a chance to play Harrison though.

>>155274743
yeah if you innervate it out on turn 1

except you're not a fucking druid

>>155274570
Saying X card is balanced just because Y and Z cards counters it is as retarded as "It's balanced because it's random"

>>155274816
My bad, I got mixed up a bit thinking you could coin it out while also being ahead mana-wise.

>>155274941
That's likely a joke considering harrison is a 5 mana legendary you can only run one of. It'd be easier to say ooze.

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anyone think Maly Druid is the new pre-nerf Miracle Rogue?
>Need to count opponent's combo pieces, balance health against damage potential
>"cheat out" 8/8s
>huge draws with auctioneer
>Maly + 2*moon + 2*roots = 26 dmg = leeroy+ 2*shadowstep + 2*coldblood

except maly druid has more dmg potential with raven idol / can ignore taunts / has yogg

and I am all for it

>>155266454
photoshoped ass

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I am a forsenboy on twitch tee vee

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this deck is such a salt harvester

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Is reno any good in arena?

>>155272539

Won't see much use. Try adding the battlecry "summon a random 2 mana minion"

>>155275881
onyxia is pure value in arena. picking reno will limit your selections staying away from two-ofs, like flamestrikes and portals.

>>155275881
The other 2 are much better.

>>155275863
This has got to be the most generic webm ever posted of this game
Why would you go through the trouble of saving it and posting it

>>155275881
the only good arena healing is healbot, and even then its only when you are winning the value game, and just want to avoid your opp topdecking lethal.
missing out on 3 shreaders for a meme that you probably won't even draw is retarded.

>>155275881
Only ever pick Reno if he shows up in your last 5 or so picks and you have naturally drafted a deck of one-ofs by chance.

Picking Reno at any other time is a terrible idea.

>>155276142

Fuck you. Reno is so red-pilled it isn't even funny. Any true alpha male would pick him without a moment of hesitation.

>Guess I only have two turns left against mage with worsen warrior.
>Decide fucking it. Time to bluff.
>Drop Emperor with no worsen
>You opponent has left

Haha get rekt.

>>155266802
cockatrice is fine

>>155275863
you could've weapon>swing at taunt>stormcrack>hero power and swung with thunderbuff into the wolf before doing that

>The feast of souls begins now!
>Cum, little ones!

How the fuck did they get away with this?

>>155275993
example of the typical control shaman game
the goal is to find the most slow and painful finisher possible
this is most fun vs aggro decks which can't prevent any of the shenanigans
thaurissan and malygos were both played that game

>>155276439
please
it doesn't even enforce rules

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Should I play more arena, /hsg/?

>>155277431
Xmage my dudes

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>>155277540
So the most you got were 8 wins?

>>155278031

The last time I played arena was in beta so..

>>155278180
May wanna do more arena if you can get at least like 6+ wins consistently. But for some reason arena is much harder now (for me at least).

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>tfw i'm getting anally destroyed in arena but my opponent suddenly dc's and i win the game instead

Whats a 50%+ win rate deck with the quickest average match time?

I don't care if it's cancer. Aggro Shaman?

>>155278698
Aggro Shaman. Midrange shaman takes more time usually but is apparently better.

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>>155278698
Probably aggro shaman. Face Hunter is also turn 7-ish fast but probably not quite as high winrate as aggro sham.

>Give it another go after not playing for a while
>Druid plays yogg
>It generates another yogg
>I concede

>>155266778
She's like not even cute and I'm forced to run three of her, sigh

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>>155279269
>Druid plays Yogg
>hits me in the face for like 14
>heals him for 14 with that shaman heal
>clears my board and summons 5 minions for him
>mfw

>>155266454
>>no longer hs cm
why did she get fired?

>>155278698
pirate warrior

>>155279554
>fired

She got a raise and promotion.
She is a wow cm now.

How do I arena?

>>155279829
Use Heartharena until you get the hang of making picks.

Getting gud at arena just takes time and practice.

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>>155279829
Look up an arena tier list and look up picks. There´s even some sites where you can type in your picks and it will make a balanced deck.

In the actual matches curve is everything. Don´t play it like a control deck and save stuff (except when you´re playing a mage around turn 7) and try to get as much stuff on the board as possible. If you think your opponent can´t clear the board anyway because of his class, going face is fine, too.

>>155279829
Watch kripp and hafu

>>155279829

Also don't expect to ever average over 6 wins. Just because the meme stars get 12 doesn't mean they avoid RNG runs of 0.

Bump from page 8.
Also, what do you think of my OC, which I hope fixes Priests' early game against aggro.
>2-Mana, 2/2, Battlecry: Negates all damage received from the recent enemy turn.

Holy shit Wild is easy

Golden portrait farming heaven

>Firelands into Earth Elemental

What the fucking shit? Fucking on tilt with that shit.

>>155282453
Haha outplayed have fun using hard removal on a card they didn't even put in their deck lol haha

>>155267981
>wanting to communicate with opponents
>ever

Fuck your chat. I want them to remove emotes from the game.

>>155282453

but now you have a story which you just told your cyber friends

>>155282453
As your friend, i appreciate your telling me this story.

>>155282380
Do you need GvG and Naxx cards for it? Because I don't have any of those, and only have like a few TGT cards.

>>155283141

I only started last month and I'm tearing it up. There's lots of cards that are new to me, it's pretty fun.

>>155283274
What are you playing?

>>155283350
Rexxar

>>155283350

Rogue, because I got VanCleef in the welcome bundle.

>>155283141
>>155283274
This is generally how it works until rank 11
Then you meet nothing but wallet warriors, RNdruid, and control mage.
Unless you are the aggroyist aggro shitter around, you're gonna have a tough time grinding from then on.
Wild meta is a bit quicker and more reliable, standard meta is all about hunter winning before turn 10 or people casting Noz and Yogg.

>>155283413

Why so ded?

>>155284235
The thread or wild?
My wild queue times are pretty short, so while it may not be as active as Standard, it doesn't have a shortage of players.
This thread is ded af famalam because it's weeb hours in the NA

>>155284235

Busy wtfpwning nubs with my face shaman

>>155283396
The only deck that looks fun right now is the Rogue Burgle deck

How many wins lads?

>No Flamestrike - literally unwinnable right?

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>>155284919

Helps if I link

>Priest card
>6 mana: Destroy all minions, deal 1 damage to your hero for each minion destroyed

Would this see play?

>>155285018
Too many onedrops and some really meh minions. The portals might keep you in the game if you even make it that far. If you get lucky 5-3 otherwise 3-3.

>>155285129
>7 mana: Destroy all minions, restore 1 health to yout hero for each minion destroyed
now it will

>>155285196
>Better Twisting Nether
>Instead of destroying Yogg meme

>>155267835
>>And Dark Magician is a viable rogue topping events?
YOU FUCKING WHAT

>>155269579
I like the card, the opponent can decide to break the armor or leave it be, kinda like a revealed secret. and on the other side you can play the card where you would think it has the most impact and forces the opponent to make a bad decision. Feels kinda like Doomsayer.

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>3days with 40g quests
>reroll 40g again

This is some type of joke?
My yogg is always good and my hand is perfect but my quests need to be retarded?

Can't wait for Justicar to be rotated out, Tank up is ridiculous.

>Priest card
>Placeholder Name: 2 mana 1/3 with Deathrattle: Summon a Placeholder Name, then silence it

The idea is to make a sticky card for Rez Priest

>>155285142

>If you even make it that far

It's not ranked...There aren't many aggro shaman decks pounding your face.

>>155285591
OC is a pure waste of time

>>155285624
My last arena i got bursted down turn 8 or so in my first two matches.

>>155285591
What's it summon exactly?
It seems like a lot of trouble to spend time resurrecting a 1/3 just to be able to throw it into something to get whatever it drops.
Not to mention having too many deathrattles might fuck up your Noz

>>155285690

That's what the caller, belcher, infested tauren and Annoy-a-tron are for.

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There needs to be a hearthstone version of this pic but with yogg instead of kassadin and HS pro instead of M5

>>155285765
It summons itself, then it silences itself. So that you get 1/3, it dies, you get a 1/3.

But, when you resurrect it, you get the first 1/3, so you get the Deathrattle back. It's a sticky addition to a Rez Priest

But yes, I agree, this is certainly a factor for N'Zoth. I imagine N'Zoth and Placeholder wouldn't be run in the same deck.

>>155285901
what's the story behind the pic

>>155285905
>when you resurrect it, you get the first 1/3
I don't think you understand how rezz works.
It's completely random, only Noz himself grabs your deathrattle minions.
So that means there's a chance you could summon a vanilla 1/3, which also sucks.
There's a reason rezz priest doesn't run curators, it's because there's no need to dilute your rez pool with a 1/2 body.

>>155286918
Not him but just saying:

N'zoth however, rezz the most recently dead. If for example you find an Anub in a Journey, and get it killed like 4 times, you can be sure that N'Zoth will rezz 4 Anub and 2 other cards.

I assume that it works the same for priest's cards.

>>155286315
Don't know but it looks like they tried to have once of their carries do something risky and it completely backfired.

>>155287101
>works the same for priest's cards
Does the word "random" mean nothing to you.
Noz does his thing because it goes through all of your minions that have died and pulls the deathrattle ones.
Bishop and Res both pull a random body out, meaning if you had two blademasters, one cairne, 1 baine, and a barnes die, it will randomly determine which one of them is resurrected.

After doing all brawls last week I dont even want to play hearthstone to do quests

>>155286315
M5 was notorious for picking kassadin pretty much every time they could, no matter how good or bad the matchup for him was. It didn't help that their team only really had the best kassadin player in the world and nothing else. At the time kassadin was the most broken piece of shit in the game though so it worked out for them more often than not.

Thanks to you friendo, I'm actually done with this shit
>uni friend shows me some crack/program for HS
>there's an editable file where you can put IDs of cards and pair them with corresponding cards
>with this the game will pull "rng effects" from said list of IDs instead of the usual bizz way
>he demonstrate by pairing the shredder Id with doomsayer (can't remember the ID, its a bunch of character)
>first game where shredder dies, doomsayer comes out
>explain how if you put invalid ID for the card, it will ignore it
>mfw this is how these Yogg fucker wins games left and right
I'm fucking done with this.
He can even fucking manipulate discover effects. fuck.

>>155287457
Same, I'm again aware how obnoxious it is to grind gold through non-Tavern Brawl means.

>>155287556
Pretty sure all the things rng related are done server side, do you have proof or anything?

I need a Medivh deck
I need a meme mage medivh deck

>>155288180
reno works, you want ways to counter shamans and hunters mostly

>>155288180
2x Arcane Blast
2x Arcane Missiles
2x Mana Wyrm
1x Mirror Image
2x Cult Sorcerer
2x Frostbolt
2x Sorcerer's Apprentice
2x Arcane Intellect
2x Flamewaker
2x Fireball
2x Cabalist's Tome
2x Firelands Portal Kara
2x Flamestrike
2x Azure Drake
1x Medivh, the Guardian Kara
1x Ragnaros the Firelord
1x Yogg-Saron, Hope's End

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>>155287556

Gonna need some proof on that, friendo.

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>Druid mulches his Sylvanas to steal my Cairne
>I SW:D my own to get it back
Have you bullied your undead mistress today?

>power creep
literally where

I wish they had power creep but the general power level of minions is so low that """"""tempo mage"""""" has a 10 mana cost finisher

>>155287556
Yogg almost always favor the user for some very obvious reasons. A lot of "harmful" effects only affect the opponent (i.e.: flamestrike or execute), and a lot of "good" effects only affect the user (i.e.: secrets), so Yogg is bound to help the user more often than not. Add the fact that Yogg is often played in specific board states, often when the user has nothing or almost nothing and the opponent has a threatening board, so he's far more likely to target enemy creatures whwn doig his bullshit. Yogg is an extremely potent (and bullshit) card for these reason, there's no need to put your tinfoil hats on.

>>155287556
>some crack/program
>editable file
>doesn't even know which
l m a o

>>155287806
>>155287556
Im not that anon but I got the same crack from a friend on one of my enginering class and I use it when grinding from 5 to legend and in arena to to farm gold because fuck wasting so much time

>Shredder into Muckla
>op shredder into doomsayer
>Yogg with a sequence of double flamestrike, call of the wild, blessing of kings, 1 damage spell, charge and +3/3 damaged minion and wind fury
>crackle to 6 damage
>random damage always set to my opponent side of the field

etc etc etc

>>155288325

Last time I played renolock vs renolock I got wrecked by this. The warlock dropped her and then used power overwhelming.

>...well I didn't want to win anyway.

>>155288498
same, im not that anon but I got the same crack from a friend at MIT and I used it to get to top 100 legend pretty easily

>make stall freeze mage
>cast three spells the whole game
>play yogg
>three pyroblasts to the enemy face

>>155288691
>>155288498
>>155287556
Post proof or it's bullshit

>>155288747
>needing proof
*tips fedora*

>>155288691
i try to use it as rarely as possible to not raise attention, got it from my uncle whos a math professor

>secretkeeper into minibot into muster into shredder into coin mysterioso into sylvanas into dr seven into ragnaros

I can confirm the game is literally fucking rigged

I dropped from rank 3 to 5 yesterday because I lost like four fucking games in a row to topdeck exact lethal

I switched to midrange shaman and got it back but still

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>>155288410
But then again, most basic cards are garbage so actual power creep would be welcome if they don't plan on buffing those cards to make them playable and not make the life of newcomer a living nightmare.

>>155289103
>grinding for legend
for what purpose?

>>155289126
its not even thematically coherent
if it was frostwolf grunt -> frostwolf warlord

>>155287556
Absolutely everything except the graphics are done server side. You can't enter the fucking play menu without the game shitting its pants without internet connection.

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>>155289237
There is also shit like this.

>>155289424
yeah, mages should totally use maelstrom portal instead of arcane explosion

>>155289424

Shaman master race

>>155289126
There is one crucial thing about power keep
It is not power creep if the card being power crept was never put into use.

>>155289158
I need a time waster to make me forget about my deep depression caused by being a wagecuck who works 9 to 5

>>155289424
shamans are in a bad spot right now so they need it XD
>inb4 shaman 2mana 3/4 spellpower(1) card gets made

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Wow didn't think the deck had the quality for half, ogres smash. Only two good cards not pictured are a flamestrike and a firelands portal, and flamestrike only won one or two games.

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Should I craft Bloodmage to have fun with N'Zoth Rogue and ultimately fail or 2 Doomhammer and go cancer my way up the ladder and get 400 dust the easy way?

I'm not a very good player so actually laddering with N'Zoth rogue isn't really an option.
At least not past rank 15.

>>155289701

>ywn get Mage in arena

>>155289759
Do what want

>>155289701
>solid early game
>2 fireballs
>portal and flamestrike

Cant say it's easy but I aint surprised it got 12

What's better for ranking up.
"""Midrange""" Shaman or Face Aggro Shaman?

So, in the welcome bundle I got Edwin, so my Miracle Rogue is now somehow complete. How the fuck do I play Rogue tho?

>>155290343
the former.

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This is why people play him. Even though it was in a fucking controll warrior deck.

>>155290406
play for tempo early then go for the miracle and burst your opponent down 2 turns later

>>155290438
In case you couldn't figure it out from the mounds of salt, it completely saved him.

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>>155289962
If I knew what I want I wouldn't ask.
I want both, but can't decide what I want more.

Anyways, I want for Bloodmage since he is used in Midrange Shaman, Rogue and Tempo Mage for which I'm lacking 2 x Arcane Blasts.
1600 dust for a 1/1 feels so wrong. Blizzard needs to add some awesome entry animation for him to make it feel right.

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r8

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>Ironfoge portal is actually seeing play

>>155290406
Play for tempo in the early and midgame
Draw your entire deck from turn 7 onwards until you find a way to construct a 2-turn lethal.

>>155289962
face

>>155290560
I was initially like that too but Thanos get put into so much stuff, he's always been worth it.

>>155290560
Depends if you already have a cancer deck capable of reaching legend in a reasonable amount of time or not. Also depends what you like playing.

Doesn't matter how good face shaman is, if you hate playing it you won't play it and so the doomhammers would be useless.

>>155290406
>>155290549
>>155290723
Pretty much this, Mulligan for good removal options like Backstab, Eviscerate, SI:7 if you run it etc.

At turn 6/7, play your Auctioneer (assuming you have it) and build a very strong Adventurer/Cleef/Leeroy.

The game plan changes a bit against aggro and control, but it's all pretty easily understood after a few games. Good luck.

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>>155288180
Medivh Yogg Druid is better and cooler

If you have Fandral, find somewhere to chuck him in here and go to town on your foe's Dark Portal

Has there ever been word on different formats or 3+ player?
I'm assuming it's a no, but a part of me really wants it

>Would like to play Shadowverse instead of shitstone
>It looks like absolute trash
I am not even talking about the weeaboo shit because I can just ignore that. I am talking about full retard pants on head shit design that makes you want to be blind.
You don't even need to be a genius to know that using white text over an almost white background doesn't look good.
What the fuck.

>>155290951
>No Fandral for the overpowered Nourish reload

>>155290978
Weekly tavern brawl brings plenty of new formats, my friend!

>>155291124
If I had him, I easily would. Probably over 1x Drake, since I like the reliability of having a Mulch in the deck which you don't need to find from Raven Idol.

>its a zoo going first episode

>Yogg fireball + fireball + consecrate me for exact lethal
I'm starting to believe in that fucking crack

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what to swap out? Im 25 off rogue gold but dont want to play miracle.

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Would this see play in any of the Dragon decks?

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I gotta stop drafting this card

Newfag here, currently got al azkir and 1700 dust.
Playing shaman and I don't have too many cards in general yet. Should I keep playing shaman for now? Which cards / legendaries go well in cheap (midrange?) shaman decks?
Is shaman viable at all?

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>>155290473
>>155290723
>>155290929
I've tried it a bit, I'm 4-1 for now, the loss was from a shaman who did his usual inane bullshit and I was dead from the beginning. It looks very strong vs control but also very weak vs aggro, and by weak I mean very starting hand dependant. It has the tools to survive but you need to actually draw them. In all my games until now I've always won by turn 6-7 with a Leeroy+Cold Blood play, never got to play a huge Edwin/Adventurer.
Also holy fuck if I feel naked with no heals or taunt whatsoever. Very fun deck though.
Pic related is the deck I netdecked. Any tip? I also have Malygos, is the Malygos variant better? (Honestly I don't think so)

>>155291729
you want 2 preps. Even reno decks run 2 because its the best rogue card in the game

>>155291809
>Is shaman viable
yes, aggro shaman is and all you need are the commons like totem golem, tunnel trogg, tuskar totemic and flamewreathed faceless.

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>>155291809
This is a midrange shaman list. There are some variants out there (Some lists go heavier on totems, some don't), but they all kinda look like this. I don't use Al'Akir simply because I don't have it, use him if you do, he's good.
Shaman is the most bullshit overpowered class in the game right now, everyone hates it and everyone will hate you if you'll play it.

>>155292174
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""midrange""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>155292428
Fucking retard

>>155292428
*slightly less aggro shaman

>>155291809
Shaman is the best class in the game, and it's also the cheapest, so consider yourself lucky. Al'Akir is currently used by the best deck in the game which is Midrange Shaman. No one has a conclusive build of that deck though, but It looks something like this:
vicioussyndicate.com/wp-content/uploads/Cerasi%E2%80%99s-Mid-Range-Shaman-1.png

The second best deck is also a shaman deck, Aggro Shaman. This is a typical build:
vicioussyndicate.com/wp-content/uploads/Standard-Aggro-Shaman-5.png

Some advice: Don't craft commons and rares. Crafting a couple is fine, but as a rule of thumb, it's a waste.

As you can see from the above many of the cards in those lists are rare and common. Try to open these instead of crafting them, settle for worse cards and save your dust for epics and legendaries as you will rarely open the exact ones you need.

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I forgot I still had this card.

Keep him for memes or dust?

>>155292428
Midrange measn that you plan to win during the midgame. This is exacly what his deck tries to do. Regular aggro shaman try to fuck you up before you can do anything. Learn your terminologie properly Mr.Babyfirstcardgame.

>>155292560
Just keep it. Everyone that dusted all of their wild cards is going to regret it down the line.

>>155292560
It baffles me that people dust wild cards. I mean we ahve adventure to do, brawls , friendly matches and right now wild is actually more fun than standard.

Sure you might not want to play wild right now, but dusting anything will just lock that format form you. I personnaly keep everything.

>>155292691
the non balancing of any cards is what locks me out of that format

Who wants 80 gold? dragyg#2135 eu.

First come first serve.

>>155292754
Standard is not balanced as well. You are just removing options.

>>155292483
>>155292608
>vs shaman
>t1 Trogg
>t2 Golem
>t3 coin Tuskarr into Golem
>t4 Flametongue + hp
>t5 hp Thing Thing
>turn 6 he Fire Elemetal'd my face for lethal

Wew, I was about to call him an aggro shitter but he runs fire, we're fine now :)

>>155292762
nobody? Its a free 80 gold.

>>155292852
>shaman desperately coins drake to show me that he's not aggro before he kills me

>>155292691
That's understandable, but it's a ton of dust just lying around. Some people don't have enough dust for everything they need/want, and would rather trade in what are basically banned cards for it. Wild is and will clearly continue to be a sewer. Brawls need only be finished once and aside from this are participated in well enough much of the time with just standard cards.

>>155292852
>fire elemental
>hex
>mana tide
>thunder bluff
>AoE spells

>>155292908
Crimsonnep here, please accept.

>>155292979
someone took it first, sorry dude not fast enough.

>>155292762
>>155292908
>Unironically playing easy mode server

>/hsg/ in charge of understanding archetypes
>zoo is aggro
>"*control*" decks in HS
>this is aggro, no midrange! No aggro!
Jesus fucking christ I hate everyone who plays this and never playing Magic

>>155293061
>implying zoo isnt aggro.

zoo is literally red goblins wihout the tribal bonuses.

>>155293024
EU is way harder than NA. Holy shit everytime I watch some streamer playing at rank 5-1 in NA I always laugh my ass off at all the misplays from their opponents

>>155292852
"aggro", "control", and "midrange" are often arbitrary labels. Decks can run a certain suite of minons while having agressivness be the nature of its cards. Midrange denotes the mana cost of the deck's cards and not how slow the deck nessecarily would be. If the deck can settle games sooner than later there is not reason not to do so.
What the fuck is your problem? Why is everyone continously triggered at "midrange"?

>>155293061
>counterspell is an archetype
no one cares nerd

>>155293206
>he thinks control decks needs counterspell
Fucking retard. Control is only a blue thing

>>155292754
Are you talking about them not changing cards or not keeping wild in mind when designing cards? If your problem is them not changing cards then tough shit, they don't want to change cards anyway. If it's about designing cards that's weird because there's no reason to believe they won't keep wild in mind. They even printed eater of secrets right as standard arrived, clearly providing wild with a tool to help control secret paladin decks which had almost entirely rotated out of standard.

>>155293160
Zoo is Zoo you nigger.

>>155266454
Who this?

>>155293334
literally already answered
>>155267097

>>155293206
>have a Boros Nahiri control deck
>wrath of god, bolts, etc.
>m-muh no counterspell so its not control!
Kek

>>155293391
should have f5'd before posting i guess

what's the standard decklist for anyfin paladin?

>>155293172
For some reason most /hsg/ posters think thats its not honourable to play aggro decks, even if honor as no fucking place in a card game. Ao they shit on anything that is aggro and perform well, and try to tell anyone playing amidrange deck with card used in aggro decks that they arent any better.

>>155293514
heals, removal, weapons, 2/1 charge and daddy murloc

Jaraxxus must be their best designed card, ever.

>>155293583
t.dishonored aggro player

hsg im having dark thoughts. I wanna buy the welcome bundle and the last wing of loe. Should I? I havent ever spent a dime on this game. It would be the first 11 euros spent on hs.

Talk me out of this.

>>155294120
Buy the Welcome bundle, the legend and the pack price worth it.

>>155294081
t. Player who gimp itself for no good reason
Enjoy your slower ranking, slower quests, lower rank, etc. There is absolutly no reason to not play the best decks in a given game and format. Any semblance of "muh honor" is cognitive dissonance.

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>>155293959
>"""""good design""""" whatever the fuck this means from people who have no idea what they're talking about to begin with
Getting real sick of this meme

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>>155268484
>playing """Midrange""" Shaman against Cucktrol Warrior dward alt portrait
>he kills some of my early minions with Bash
>keeps emoting thank you every time he kills something or plays a move
>over 3 emotes every turns
>games keeps going on
>have lethal on board
>kill his minions
>start emoting thank you
>rope
>finish finish game last second
>get added by angry cucktrol midget
>get angry fanmail

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Why does this have 6 health?

>>155294250
This is what a muslim killing innocents would say

>>155294295

Nobody uses it anyway

>>155294340
I'm talking sbout a game.

>>155294220
B-but I already have all class legendaries (xcept velen but who cares about that guy)

>>155294295
So that it has at least a tiny chance of surviving a turn and actually be useful.
The alternative is a 7 mana 3/6.
Pretty much every other Inspire minion has the problem that it's ridiculously slow, understated and can't be used on curve nor does it actually have a strong effect when played 2 turns off the curve.

This is probable the only card where Blizzard didn't completely shit it's pants and made it a piece of shit.

>>155294381
its like you didnt play later this month or something

>>155294445
free 400 dust, and maybe you get more legends and more dust to craft more good decks like.

>>155294530

I've played a lot this month and only seen it a couple of times.

>>155294620
What rank? At rank 5 I see one every 3 game or so.

>>155294276
cool story bro
everytime i logout after ladder grinding i have atleast 15 faggots sending friend req and i dont feel the need to blog about it
its always the same shit too
>hurrr topdeck
>hurrr you needed exactly THAT card

>>155294684

9-10. Someday I'll be just like you.

>>155294461
it's because it's the only inspire card that synergizes with minions outside of hero power

>At uni
>guy in front of my start hs on his laptop
>rank25
>must be new
>priest lv 20something
>lose 3 games in a row making misplays left and right
>get upset when hunter rolls huffer for lethal (he healed a minion last turn and was holding is holy nova, when at 3 life vs hunter...)
>still rank25, quit game
Holyshit how can sucha retard be at uni

>>155295032
>my
Me*

Anyone got a good Shadowcraft Control list?