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dead game

>>155259078
Bump

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>We've returned from the sequence of journeys! Here are recordings of the streams from the two tracks at the Roguelike Celebration: Room 1, Room 2. Direct link to our talk. Schedule to help you navigate.

There are a lot of B12 tasks piled up to unbury ourselves from, but we should be getting back to work toward the artifact release again soon.

The actual df part is around 4:50 in while they link they gave is like 4:38?

how do I find the underworld

how do I pick shit up in Adventure mode without it going into my hands so i cant use my shield?

>>155260652
You don't, you just put the items away after picking them up.

>>155260152
Cavern 1 can be accessed by any surface cave (dark grey rough stone) or from MOST dwarf fortress sites, and some older goblin sites. The other cavern levels can be found by downward passages or by climbing down a chasm.

be aware that navigating the underground cave levels is a fucking nightmare, not only because you can't fast travel outside of underground roads, but also because if you ever need to sleep you're likely to be ambushed by predators.
predators the size of fucking elephants.

don't even think about trying to access hell in a pure adventure mode game either. though you can access it by finding an original goblin site and entering the keep the demon used as its throne.

>>155261003
> most dwarven sites
correction: most dwarf FORTRESS sites, and only those fortresses which have an underground connection to other fortresses or to deep-dwarf mountain sites.

>>155260652
'p'ut the item into your inventory.
also you should probably consider pressing the "strap wielded items to body" button so you don't go around with your sword and shield out all the time. the NPCs are programmed to take offense to strangers holding equipped weapons.

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>>155261003
Well, if you find one of the demonic underworld spires you can usually get down into hell and drop the whole thing.

can someone please explain to me how fortress and adventure mode mix in with each other? It sounds really interesting but I dont get it.

>>155261789
They're two different ways to play in the world you generate.

what do you guys think of gnomoria? this is not bait, honest question. have you ever play any df clone? did you like it?

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>>155261789
While you play a fort, history keeps taking place around your embark, and while you play an adventurer your fort keeps trundling along doing what it do.

>>155220681
Please insert reaction image expressing approbation here.

>>155261496
>you can usually get down into hell and drop the whole thing.
No, YOU can. Other people, especially someone who's asking how to find the underworld, might have a bit of trouble trying something like that.

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post rare toadies

>>155263180
You don't gotta be a superventurer to do it from hell. Surving afterwards though...

>>155263989
would you people fuck off with your shitty memes already

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One layer aquifer.
I need to get through it.
I'm not gonna use a collapse to cover it.
Is there a way to do it without pumps?

>>155266514
Pumps, collapses, and ice are the only means I know of for getting through aquifers.

>>155266673
>ice
Can you dig through ice?
If not, I have no idea how this works.

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>>155265796
>no fun allowed

>>155266959
Yes, you can dig through ice as though it were stone, or at least you could last I checked, and I'm fairly sure it hasn't changed. The aquifer water won't freeze unless it's exposed to the sky though, and then only if the weather is cold enough in that spot. Just be careful to prepare for when it thaws, if it will.

>>155267438
fun is perfectly okay
shitty memes are not

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>>155263989

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>>155267826
stay mad, autismo

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Hey /dfg/ does anyone know or have access to raws for dragonkin?

Sometimes you just want to wrestle a dragon as a dragonkin.

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>>155267543
Okay, so.

Good news: I got through the aquifer and into the caverns.
Bad news: I accidentally broke a wall that did not have a floor above it, and now the aquifer is pouring into said caverns.

>>155270689
byebye framerate

>>155270689
Did you do a cave-in in adventurer mode to do it? Well done!

how do undig?

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>>155271239
Hit the Φ key.

>>155270713
Spireslaying is the real framerate killer, an aquifer in adventurer mode is just comedy.

>>155270689
>>155271057
I assumed we were talking about fortress mode. How did you do that as an adventurer?

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I've been playing since early 2008 and this honestly is the first time I've ever seen this happen.

>>155272214
You've never had microcline in 8 years?

>>155272214
Microcline? Never heard of it. Must be a rare mineral.

>>155272214
What the fuck is microcline

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>>155271057
>Did you do a cave-in in adventurer mode to do it?
Originally, I was doing this.
Then I got bored and felt it would be more fun to do the mining manually with advfort and a pickaxe.


>>155271601
>How did you do that as an adventurer?
I broke the wall that allowed the aquifer to flood using advfort.

>>155272234
Yep, though I barely touched DF from early 2011 to mid 2014 and now that I think of it, I've made a lot of aboveground forts.

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>>155274502
>aboveground forts.

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>>155271601
Build a wall over something so it has no other support > drop the wall > punch a hole through thin floors in caverns and shit.

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>>155275187
If you're a flying race you can find a minecart and use a reaction to make uh, 413 units of water in the cart, then drop it to make an ice floor hanging in mid-air. If you do more water or drop water again you can freeze yourself into an ice wall, gotta be 5.0+ speed to do that remotely safely, fair warning.

The hanging ice floors will sit there until melted or you save/load the map again, which lets you precision cut things before building, or clear magma for building on, it's one of the tricks I use for volcano tube homes.

This is in 43.05 though, no advfort yet.

>>155275187
Finally fell!

Did the last thread die because it was so dead?

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>laptop dies
>decide to go all out
>buy expensive as fuck "gaming PC"
>try all the cool AAA titles I've been missing out on
>for a few hours
>a week after the initial purchase I'm back playing df but now on an expensive computer

I'm not sure how to feel about this

>>155277757
DF is for high end PCs.

>>155277757
You did the right thing.

>>155277807
Yeah I'm kinda realizing that, FPS death takes much longer to set in and world creation is surprisingly fast, also I'm experiencing less crashes, it's good.
Could've spent less on a video card if I knew AAA shit wouldn't hold my attention for longer than 3 hours.

>>155278159
Yea but, what if you suddenly wana play a AAA title?
It's nice to have to possibility.

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I'm posting bote until toad adds boats and we can have fishing in the game

>>155279454
But we do have fishing.

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>>155279487

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I just dont understand what made them stack all their things around the edge instead of literally anywhere else.

>>155279487
But we don't have CAVE PIRATES.

If you die in adventure mode, do you die in real life?

>>155280147
The body cannot live without the adventurer.

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What starting professions is more suitable for 1x1 fort?

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>gandalf means magic elf

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>Tavern brawl in my above ground inn
>Human hammerman vs an elf consort
>Human beats the shit out of elf
>He eventually applies to join my fortress
>Happily accept
>He lives in one of the rooms of my tavern in a solo squad
>Equip him with a mix of leather and iron and train him in wrestling
>He is my new tavern bouncer

>>155281049
I remember reading the story of Bravemule before even knowing about dwarf fortress. A few years later when I did discover the game, I went back and read it again. Pretty cool feeling to find context to what looked like a really cool game/story.

>>155259001
That image makes me sad

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>>155283810

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Do you a think that in a high magic world we could be plump helmets living in a giant plump helmet floating on a sea of galactic plump juice?

>>155284032
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>155284032
>Do you a think
Are you Italian?

>>155284125
Oh damn I hope not. I can drive a car without swearing.

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>>155250223
>>155250517
I'm back. And
>That's just what happens when the site is mostly populated with a certain race
was wrong, else this would be a goblin fortress

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>>155285568
Anyway; that was the only site the civ ever had, so it's ded...
But, the few dwarves I talked with speak of occupation and of it being for the best.
Is there anyway I can free this fort and restore the civ?

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Ich bin ein Zwerg
Und ich bin ein Loch graben
diggy diggy Loch
ein Loch graben

benis

>>155262502
Answer you cucks

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Welp.
Epic rapper 2Bone is now king.

I have a problem in adventure mode. I want to slay monsters but when I go to their lair, no one is ever present. I have waited long times but nothing seems to change and this reoccurs on almost every lair I visit. How do I even find these monsters?

>>155272214
I've been playing since 2012 and literally all of my embarks have had microcline.

>>155290568
Have you ever considered that by invading their homes with the sole purpose to slay them, you were the real monster all along?

>>155284032
But would we grow dwarves and brew them into wine?

>>155291471
Every night.

>>155290568
How old is your world?

>>155259971
Looks good

>playing in a good biome
>not paying attention to combat logs because my hunters are killing unicorns
>suddenly get message that one of my fisherdwarfs is dead
>check combat logs
>it's pages and pages of my fisherdwarf punching the shit out of a unicorn
>unicorn gets tired of his shit and stabs him in the head
>2nd fisherdwarf jumps into the river in terror and promptly drowns.

My fisherdwarfs are idiots. I am glad they are dead.

>>155292996
Fisherdwarves probabaly have higher mortality rates than chained dogs.

>>155292197
Newest possible.

>>155293832
Only 5 years? Then it's down to bad luck with world activation. Beasties don't just idly wait for you in their lairs 24/7. They roam around, terrorizing the countryside.

If you want an ever-present threat, find a necromancer tower. There's always loads of zombies and usually only one of the necromancers wanders out at a time.

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>>155279581

That human on my fortress map was a bandit, he jumped my wagon befor I could even deconstruct it. Luckily I brought 5 puppers with me. The pupper that got him is very injured, pray for my pupper /dfg/

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Should I be worried?

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>>155296334
I'm sure it's nothing to be concerned over.

Why the fuck does my military not go and all pick up all the copper shit I made for them?

They leave like nearly all of it, and all of the breastplates.

>>155296769
Then I walked into the caverns, slipped into a pool and drowned.
Such is life.

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Is playing as animal people worth it?

>>155298457
is their uniform set to metal

>>155298457
Make sure their uniform's are metal and you chose "replace clothing" instead of "over clothing" in the equipment screen

How do I kill a Hydra in adventure mode? That sounds pretty menacing task.

>>155298750
Stab it until it dies

>>155299272
T-Thanks

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>>155299304
Glad I could help

>>155298750
Are they actually hard to kill now? They were fairly easy in older versions, back when they didn't have 7+ simultaneous attacks. Pretty much any well-trained military dorf could kill a hydra 1vs1 in advfort mode.

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>>155299627
I haven't dared to encounter it yet, as literally everyone in my world is talking about Hydra as a legendary beast that has killed god knows how many. I'm attached to my adventurer so going to face off is absolutely nerve-wrecking. I'm pretty sure it's going to be quick death for me.

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>>155299970
lol just save scum like everyone else

>>155299970
I assume you already have maxed stats and legendary+ combat skills. Are you a demigod or vampire? Shouldn't be too hard if that's the case. Just sneak in, pike/spear its heart/lungs, flee, repeat until you get a good first strike. Don't bother with the heads.

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>>155299970
Become a necromancer and throw zombies at it, then revive it once it dies.

>>155300124
But isn't that unfair though.
>>155300141
Demigod, but I'm only good with a sword. I guess I'll keep training.

>>155300141
>Are you a demigod or vampire
>not being a demigod vampire necromancer on every adventurer

>>155300141
>>155301156
Plus my world doesn't have vampires. I tried searching for one but it seems there were two and they have both been killed.

I don't know if more vampires are randomly spawned, but becoming a vampire now seems near impossible so I'm training the regular way.

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>>155301156
>demigod vampire necromancer

>>155301391
Demigod vampire alone is pretty overpowered. Made an adventurer whose goal was to cleanse the world from life and he became very proficient at it.

>>155300859
Eh, weapon skills aren't that important. The key point is that you need something to penetrate the hydra's upper body deep enough to damage its innards before it can fight back. I'm not familiar with swords because they're objectively the worst weapon in DF, but I guess 2h sword might have a reasonable stab attack?

What matters the most is high stats (agi, tough, willpower, str, end), and defense skills (armor user, observer, dodge, shield user) so you don't get killed instantly. Also, be sure your combat pref is set to dodge/move around, hydras like to charge you. Bonus points if you can make it charge into obstacles.

>>155301156
>playing OP as fuck characters
Boring.

>>155301784
I'm usually fighting with a scimitar as it's very effective at decapitations. Also very useless against Hydra as it's designed to slash. I guess I'll start learning spear.

Thanks for the tips.

>>155300124
How do I do this and does it work for fort mode? Prob won't do it just want to see my options.

>>155302461
when you fuck up, just kill the process

also, I only do it in adv mode. in fort mode, it's more fun to take responsibility for your fuck-ups and bring things back on track

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In my fort of 85 dwarfs, I usually have 8-13 idlers at any given time.

is this an acceptable level of inefficiency, or am I doing something wrong?

>>155302814
You are not hauling enough, do you have a stone stockpile and are you digging deeply and greedily?

>>155302940

Nope, I'm not really digging at all. I have more bronze bars than I know what to do with, and since most of my industry is based on mass producing shellcrafts, I dont think I need gems either.

So I just haven't bothered digging yet. Is this a mistake?

>>155302227
Axes are way better at lopping off body parts. I see swords as a bad compromise between axes and spears in the context of native dwarven weapons. They can slash, they can stab, but they're not very good at either.

Pikes are somewhat better than spears, so learn that instead - unless your dorfs have quality steel (or adamantine) spears.

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What should I do with these? I'm tired of making new cages

>>155304114
P I T
I
T

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I retired my adventurer and now it started in a building that has no exit. What am I supposed to do?

>>155306936
Don't start adventurers in dwarven fortresses or mountain halls.

>>155307186
It was supposed to be a town. There's an overlord there also, and the entire structure is littered with corpses. It would be almost humorous if I wasn't absolutely trapped inside with the rest of the corpses.

>>155307639
show a screenshot

it might be that you spawned below ground because there weren't enough houses in the town. I've had that happen to me

>>155307867
I think that's the case, there's an upward slope but it cannot be climbed and not even the AI that scrambles around ever uses the slope.

>>155303137
>bronze
Get Adamantium ASAP.

>>155306936
Press T, move out?

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I have only just begun my journey.
I found two like-minded warriors bored with village life.
We've reached our first destination; the nearby tomb.

Tomb meat best meat

>>155309532
I didn't consider this a good tip, but actually when I stood directly at the unclimbable slope I was able to travel out of the cavern for some reason. Buggy shit but saved me.

>>155309703
You're going to get slaughtered.

Stupid question but how would a dwarf send a letter? I mean like what would he write on and how would he seal it? I imagine he'd use wax like ye olde tymes.

No one say stone.

I want to do something special for my bitch.

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>>155310434
Sinur the spearman didn't make it out alive.

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So. Marching armies aka invasions. Anyone got experience dealing with those as an adventurer?

I decided to try and defend nearby hillocks from some goblin army, but I have no idea what I'm doing.

The invasion event started 6 days ago. I'm at the hillock, interrogating locals. Everything seems peaceful and some drunks claim that the goblin lord leading the siege is in a nearby region to southeast, possibly less than day out. Should I just wait and see what happens? Move to travel mode and try to intercept a gray asterisk?

>>155311330
Microcline tablet and cobaltite letters. Once she gouges her eyes out from the glaring colors, your chances with her will increase substantially.

Whats the best use of adamantine, weapons or armor?

>>155313907
Both.

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>>155313907
war hammers

>>155314070
I'm only going to have 70 wafers.

>>155259001
Maybe it's just because I'm seeing this image for the first time, but this guy looks a lot like Patrick Rothfuss.
Fuck that guy.

>>155311778

Why

In the orders menu, whats the difference between gather bodies and save corpses?

>>155314713
I'll have the dwarven syrup roast please. Oh, and I'd like some longland beer, if you don't mind.

>>155311696
They're pretty badly bugged right now. You can just walk into their camp and see that chances are they're all asleep, and they will never wake up. If you want you can totally just kill them all without a hitch.

Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen an army that wasn't affected by this glitch.

>>155317296
Really? Damn.

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Don't you die on me, thread.

>>155298750
Aim for the heart

>>155317296
>You can just walk into their camp and see that chances are they're all asleep, and they will never wake up. If you want you can totally just kill them all without a hitch.
wew, you were right. Only it wasn't a camp, but dark pits. I did approach the site at night and snuck my way through it, but they were sleeping, yeah. No threat at all.

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>>155324847
To be honest I'm happy everyone is asleep. Wouldn't want to wake them up when I'm deep inside the pits.

>>155324847
>>155325308
Oh, pits are another deal entirely. They'll only be asleep at night, as intended.

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>>155325906
Well, the invasion leader goblin was in a dark pit site like I was told by people in the hillocks. Or maybe it was someone with same profession and a similar name, Stozu whatever, lord.

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You see this on the horizon... What do?

>>155328323
throw rocks

>>155328323
That picture, especially the grinning drummer, makes me think of Girl Genius' jagermonters.

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Okay, so apparently these guys ate all the people who were wandering around my encampment.

I'm alone.
What do?

>>155330915
It's just lions, beat them up!

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Now, while a normal adventurer can work down through a spire into hell and drop it, you've gotta be magma-safe to get through one with a glitched connection to hell.

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>>155332269
This is going better than expected

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>>155333175
Don't forget to eat the heart!

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>>155329383
Never would of doubted the ability's of the throwing dwarf.
>>155329429
They are Austrians after all, so relations to Germans is pretty strong.

I had a caravan come to my trade depot and when they got into it a message popped up and I peeked on the conversation. Then a bunch of options came up and I set some livestock to priority. Then I breezed through the next few options and the window closed. Then I thought "how am I supposed to pay for this?" So I pressed q on the depot and sent all my gems into it. Then some time passed and the traders left without any of my gems and I didn't get any lovestock!!1! What the heck guys?

>>155333767
Did you select the gems for the trade?

It should show them and the stuff you want to buy and the caravan dude should be like "hmmm, yes, this will do" or be bitchy or whatever.

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How do I have fun with the history?

Like how do I make an adventurer important enough so that ill have some interaction with them in Fortress mode?

Whats the point of making sites and stuff as an adventurer?

What is the fastest way to gain fame?

>>155335817
I am fully capable of ignoring my nose and breathing on automatic despite the image, but you are aware of your tongue and that you have your legs crossed.

Take over a site and recruit several hearthpersons. Kill a Roc and three or four bandits, tell people about it, tell stories in marketplaces about your Roc kill. Tell tavern keepers about this stuff.

Go visit your own fort and tell people there about it.

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Ugh.

I made the mistake of unloading stonesense which caused a crash, reverting all my progress back to when I entered the tomb.

>>155337525
Remember: if you pic something up and then save, the mummy will end up elsewhere on the map, so hope it curses someone before it sees you!

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>>155336831
>and that you have your legs crossed

>>155335743
I'm not sure how to select things for trade? Also, is it OK to stick stuff like gems in there even after the caravan has arrived and is sitting in the depot? Also, what does it mean when a dwarf is flashing with a Z?

>>155337937
>so hope it curses someone before it sees you!
I didn't notice any effect from the curse before.
What does it do?

>>155336831
how do I take over?

How do I recruit hearthpersons?

>>155338096
Those kinds of questions are exactly what the wiki exists for.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Trading

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>>155338408
Pretty significant malus, 20 percent chance to roll a 0 on any skill attempt.

>>155338030
bwahahaha

>>155338096
This isn't complete, there are some statuses missing but I don't have a newer one. Selecting things after the caravan shows on the map is fine, you can also just load stuff out there before autumn hits since you know they'll be coming.

When you're in the trade screen you select the stuff you want on the left and the stuff you want to buy it with on the right, so you can oversupply your depot and then just choose the closest match to the stuff you want.

>>155338745
>>155338876
Ok thanks guys, I guess one of my hunter dwarfs is sleepwalking? Lmao I hope he doesn't get himself into trouble with his sleepwalking antics.

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>>155338593
Stand in a keep or mead hall and tell someone you claim the site, when there is noone else with a legit claim around you will get a popup box like this, and you can then invite people to become your hearthperson.

You have to stay there or you lose claim though, so what you want to do is wait for stragglers to trickle in, then give the lord/lady position (ask favor > offer position) to one of the hearthpeople, and they will inherit the ones you already gathered, giving them a strong claim over the site.

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>>155311330
Clay tablets, cuneiform and a fancy seal.
If your dwarves aren't Sumerians then get the fuck out.

>>155338876
>you can also just load stuff out there before autumn hits since you know they'll be coming
You can't move items to the trade depot when there isn't a caravan on the map. You can stockpile stuff near the trade depot. If that's what you meant it wasn't obvious, and you kind of need to spell it out for someone so obviously green.

>>155339201
Sorry, I also meant you can leave stuff out in the depot if you have a proper airlock set up for keas, but yeah.

>>155311330
Messenger bats carrying stone tablets.

Magma filled trenches spelling out the message.

Refuse stockpile with stragically arranged corpses.

Goblin branding.

Morse code (or the dwarven equivalent) with a pick axe.

Yelling really loud. While drunk.

>>155339691
*strategically

>>155339691
https://youtu.be/R_mizUMlvUc?t=186
Send a raven.

>>155284620
>I read "can drive a car without sweating"
>It still worked

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Huh, destroying a spire with a campsite leads to some weird results.

>>155341495
Hah, does work doesn't it?

>>155314667
Hmm?

> naturally legendary non-military skills so i can just like build fortress
> and so i don't need to deal with useless migrants
> and so smoothing floors/walls doesn't take fucking ages

DFhack fast dwarf jobs for 43.05 when

can someone give me an easy archery squad guide?

I try and make training areas but nothing happens.

What do I need to do and how the fuck do I handle military scheduled?

>>155345571
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Advanced_Marksdwarf_Training_Guide

post saves that I can steal so I dont have to start an industry and thriving fort on my own and can just get a headstart

>>155345571
Dont bother with Marksdwarves. 10 more Axe dwarves will be just as good and not a huge hassle.

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Well I did it finally, can't get down there easily but I could probably use it as a prison by assigning companions a zone down there.

>>155347898
There's an entire website devoted to that shit, you lazy shit

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Bump while I wait out another collapse.

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Apparently bone bolts are pretty lame. My hunter pumped 75 of them into one kangaroo and it never died. It left the map before he could reload a third time. Also:
>stand there casually emptying quiver into a kangaroo which is lying on the ground in misery
>run out of ammo
>"I must withdraw!"
>run away at full speed in a random direction and then calmly start walking back to the fort to get more ammo and start over

>>155348191
easiest way to do this? I cant figure this military shit out.

>>155350814
Bone bolts are shit tier because they're so light

Either get some metal or some hard wood like mahogany or cherry

Humans > Dwarves

>>155351239
>or some hard wood like mahogany or cherry
Seriously? You're telling me that certain types of wood make decent hunting bolts? Is there any simple way to tell which types are good?

>>155350842
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Military

>>155352679
No. The difference in weight between woods is negligible, and none of them are sharp. Wood bolts and bone bolts are only good for training.
You can refer to the wiki for the properties of almost any material in the game.

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>>155353001
Basically yeah, gotta fuck around with modding before any wood is worth using.

Is there any way to exclude bags full of quicklime or plaster from my empty bag stockpile?

>>155355885
Try disabling inorganics in additional options. I haven't tried it myself but it ought to work.

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My dwarven self and a couple human girls set across the continent, to find better lands.

Our journey was nearing its end, when Sinur met her unfortunate end.

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>>155357861
Time to find a good bar

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>>155358208
Not losing her too
faget gater

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bubm

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ow

>>155358614
Fashion it's bones into a sculpture of your dead friend.

>>155360454
Least it wasn't a slate door you were bashing it in the nail with, ugh why did I do that to myself?

>>155360454
How come you're usually hungry, thirsty, and drowsy in your screenshots?

Where is that boatposting guy, we're running dangerously low on boats in this thread

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Jesus, not only are all the villages on this side of the continent desserted, but even the fortresses.

I need to research history and find out what happened.


>>155361436
Is the misc object weapon skill any good?

>>155360801
Its bones aren't worthy.

>>155361465
I've been doing a lot of travelling.

>>155361465
there's a reason he's killing a fat dingo

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>>155362268
Fatlicious.

I need to set up a little base somewhere, but seems like there aren't any sentient beings but goblins on this side of the continent.
All the travelling means I have to eat a lot, so I've had to stop to hunt more than often than I'd like.

Will we be able to gather materials and hire workers and whatnot and build stuff in adventure mode eventually for a seamless adventure into fortress mode transition where everything works similarily to fortress mode except that every dwarf other than you is controlled mostly by AI

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>>155361465
Usually people aren't running around in godmode destroying spires.

>>155362132
If you find a good object yeah it's pretty handy, in vanilla especially it's the best way to get weapons that knock people across the screen, a coffin or minecart full of bodies and such.

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>>155363538
You can kinda do that now, and even do things like bring supplies for your buddies and leave them working at a site while you go off to get more lumber and furniture and shit.

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>>155363861
Incidentally, I wish I was a drawfag for that, it's hard to tell but it's the shattered ruins of an underworld spire, the caverns and magma sea pouring into hell, demons coming up from below and killing children amidst the rubble while a huge skinless gecko battles a flaming tick and eyeless kite (a type of hawk) on the edge of a yawning chasm, while the clothing literally burns off the gecko demon before it bites the tick in half, and then falls off the edge to explode far, far below: >>155363773

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Am I missing something, or does my civilization not have access to copper, tin, or iron ore? And yet they're still bringing bronze and steel.

>>155364764
What did they have under bars and such?

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Allright /dfg/, how do I instigate an uprising among my fellow dwarves?
Should I even risk attempting to kill this dude with my shitty elven wood sword?

>>155364764
Does your civ have access to copper, tin, or iron as a metal?
Maybe they're trading for the ore and metal with other civs that have the ore

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>>155365136

>>155333542
>>155329383
>battle of platea
>However, the Spartans closed in on Mardonius; a Spartan soldier named Arimnestus saw him astride his horse, picked up a large rock off the ground and threw it hard at Mardonius; it hit him squarely in the head, killing him. With Mardonius dead, the Persians began to flee; although his bodyguard remained, they were annihilated

Is DF proof communism can work?

magnets and pulleys when

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>>155365895
>tfw the Zoroastrians failed to save Europe from pagan barbarism
>tfw it wasn't until Paul's days that civilisation and reason finally reached our corner of the world

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>peg 10

>>155369773

toady nae dae it ya fuckn mong

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bump

>therapist/dfhack stop working for the latest version
>/dfg/ goes belly-up
Really makes you thing

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>>155369872

>>155372617
can't people just play slightly earlier versions?

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>>155373408
Can't miss out on all those new bits, can we?

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Wut, how did that shit die? I guess pulping the upper spine did it? i know for certain that creatures survive a pulped neck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is1wSwdaM2w

I'm sure many of you guys have seen this, but how would you describe the style of animation this guy has?

bumparumpadoo

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>you can still make prophecy artifacts

I have a situation. I guess I ignored the last message from the outpost liaison during my first year and he left unhappy. Now its like 4 years later. I only received 1 migrant wave at the beginning when he first visited. The dwarves never come to trade with me and I rely on the humans once a year for my magnetite/iron imports and any world news. The first year I met with the human guild leader, he told me three pages of events about 2 major goblin armies and tons of refugees. I'm assuming my civilization was wiped out.

Now I have 16 dwarves, 2 of them are very young children. I have a rocking tavern set up and I need to attract mercenaries asap. Do I need to put one of my 14 valuable workers as a tavernkeeper for this to work? Can I still get a migrant wave?

>>155348191
This. Plus the added item count really dicks up your fps.

>>155350814
Yeah, bolt material actually matters now. Let them shoot up wildlife with wood/bone and train with material restricted wood/bone only and have an escort nearby so they don't get shit on in melee. Import copper bars, copper ores, all armor and weapons, cages, bolts, trap components so you can melt. Depending on your civ you can get upwards of 70 copper bars a year just from imports which is enough for 3 quivers.

>>155377049
There's a bug where if they leave unhappy, they're glitched at the edge of your map and it takes a good 20-30 years for whichever dwarf is blocking to go insane and probably attack and kill a bunch of your swarves. Find a bunch of exotic forbidden stuff in your stocks menu to find where they're glitched. Haven't played my minifort long enough to see if you'll get a new caravan enough years after the glitched one died.

>>155373408
>wait years for toady to update
>now you have to wait another few years for therapist to update

>>155378157
Just use custom professions and custom nicknames. It's easy

>>155364764
That's a known bug. Civs that have reactions to produce materials don't have to have access to the necessary reagents to make those materials in order to bring them for trade. This pretty much only comes up for alloys, and every civ that's allowed to produce an alloy will bring it for trade and spawn creatures wearing gear for that alloy whether they have the means to produce it or not.

>>155378157
>2012+4
>still caring about therapist
dfhack has the same functionality nowadays.

>>155379721
>DFHack (Out of Date)

>>155379762
Indeed. Adventure mode is fun for a change.

>>155377214
>upwards of 70 copper bars a year just from imports which is enough for 3 quivers.
A metal bar makes a stack of 25 bolts. 70 bars a year is enough for a hell of a lot more than 3 quivers.

>>155380068
Sorry, 3 10-dorf squads worth of quivers.

>>155379874
How did dfhack make adventure mode unfun?

>>155381579
You misunderstand. The lack of dfhack makes fortress mode unfun.

>>155262502
give me a fucking answer!!

>>155262502
Haven't played it. I did play rimworld for a while, but that just made me return to DF, disgusted at RW's utter simplicity and wasted potential.

>>155382992
>wasted potential

Explain. Rimworld has tons of room to grow and improve.

>>155367130
>optimal bedrooms are 2x3 cells with a bed, cabinet, and chest
>works

>>155383752
No, unfortunately it doesn't.

The dev wants to focus on stupid shit like the storyteller AI instead of simulating a world like DF does. He also said there will never be z-levels. So the game is, at best, stuck at the technical level of DF2006. Plus, the maps and entity counts are tiny because the game engine is a godawful piece of shit. It can't handle anything near DF-levels, even without any of DF's background simulation.

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>>155381837
Are you me?

>>155384291
No, as I would never use that tileset or even have that file saved anywhere.

Looks like someone took the default curses tileset and resized it with a pixel art resizing algorithm unfit for the purpose. Pig disgusting hack job.

>>155374412
very cartoon networkish, a bit weebshitty at times

pretty enjoyable to watch. did you watch the one about the ghost, as well?

>>155384780
Thanks, I did it myself from the default curses tileset by trimming the edges off so it scales down nicely, though I mostly meant that was my reason too, dfhack mades fort mode fun after you're used to it.

>>155385828
>mades
makes

Goddamn fingers.

>>155286250
*Und ich grabe ein Loch

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>>155387080
Gesundheit.

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>>155387901
>when you finally get out of prison but you fall into hell instead

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>>155387080
>t. Obergruppenführer von HochScheisseposting

>>155385828
Hold on, did I get this right: You made a slightly fucked up, larger variant of the default tileset... for the purpose of scaling it down?

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>>155388262
I think some of the little fuckers were jumping gaps to go fight demons, brave, but dumb.

>>155388436
I made a larger version with cleaned up corners and such to suit my taste, which can scale down cleanly if I want to zoom out for screenshots.

>>155388993
You know the default tileset will not only scale down without any jarring artifacts, but also keep its sharp pixelated look if you upscale it with nearest neighbor scaling to any factor of 2 and set [TEXTURE_PARAM:NEAREST] instead of linear, right?

My dwarves have never adopted animals designated as pets even though they hang in the meeting areas all the time

>>155389763
Dwarves only adopt animals they have a preference for.

>>155389917
Well that's good to hear guess I'll butcher this guinea pig then

http://www.strawpoll.me/11272923

What exactly do I have to do to get my dwarfs training?

I dont understand this alert system.

Also why dont they always completely armor up? I have to do both Metal Armor and Breastplate for them to even get breastplates instead of just Metal Armor.

Can you learn any type of magic in Adventure mode?

Also what is the difference from Artifact weapons/armor in Adventure mode and weapons/armor of the same material?

Can you enchant any weapons or any with magic skills?

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>>155387901
Shai'Hulud

>>155392243
There's barely any magic in the game right now, as far as player activity is concerned. It's coming in the myth update.

>>155392243
No, there's no magic yet. At most you can learn the secrets of life and death and become a necromancer.

>>155392490
>>155392616
what about artifact weapons vs the normal ones but of the same material?

>>155392820
You can consider artifact to be just another tier above masterwork.

>>155384067

Do you need anything more? Maybe you want to get a giant house to put all of your pointless capitalist shit?

>>155274502
>aboveground forts
Go hug a tree, you elf.

>>155384067
>2x3 cells
>optimal
Such a waste of space! Should be 1x3 or at least 2x2.

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>>155393029
>elves
>building great monuments
hmm

>>155393152
Of course they do. They build gigantic dildos, cover them with mud, plant trees, and wait until the trees above the gigantic dildos grew to the correct size to impale themselves with the trees. They call it "internal hugs", where they die while sitting on a giant dildo. Why don't you go do it, elf?

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>>155393370
How were you feeling when you wrote that post, Anon?

>>155393530
As fine as Freud holding his cigar.

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>>155393590
Anon, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

>>155393797
And sometimes telling an elf to go screw itself in a royal fashion is just telling an elf to go screw itself in a royal fashion.

Anyone know how the old speed system compares with the new gaits?

Say if I had an adventurer with 1300 speed in v0.31, how fast would that guy walk in v0.42.06? Would it be 1.3 or something completely different?

>>155259001
fps death fixed yet?

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I wish I had noticed these rooms earlier.

>>155394683
dude wait
that's a store, don't steal shit

>>155394672
It won't be fixed for a million years, saahib. This game is cursed, cover yourself with vinegar and mare's blood, and writhe naked under a gibbous moon in order to cleanse yourself of its taint.

>>155395273
1. it's a stockpile, not a store. for dwarves, the only items on sale are in the trade depot. you can talk to the broker to buy them
2. stealing items is no big deal. assuming you can leave the site manually, which you should be able to, since no one gives a shit, the items will count as yours

>>155389620
I didn't want the jagged pixelated corners.

>>155395593
Wow. What a dick.

>>155395593
well fuck me, last stockpile I saw had the $item$ icons and I assumed wrong I guess
fuck, this could have saved me some headaches

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>>155395593
If it has a $ by the name it is a trade good, if you want to avoid being labeled a thief drop it somewhere with no other items around and wait an hour.

>>155396329
i've never been labeled as a thief since 0.34

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ORCS IS DUH BEHST

>>155393114
I'm pretty sure 2x3 actually odds the most optimal due to increased value of bedrooms helping prevent tantrums or something like that. I use 3x3 because i prefer the simplicity of planning required for the symmetry, but if you want to go full autist you could give them a 1x1 room with just a bed.

If Toady added a fifth civilisation to dwarf fortress, what would it be?

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>>155397031
>playing mastershit

>tfw meph, despite initial rumours, didn't actually get killed by ISIS on his Lebanon trip
>tfw he'll keep cashing in big shekels for re-releasing other peoples' mods
>tfw meph makes more money than toady with his stolen mods
>tfw meph can go on sponsored vacations all year round, while the modders are hard at work make new mods for him to accept donations for

>>155397625
Procedurally generated.

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>>155395714
But your tileset is way worse than having crisp pixel graphics. There are three glaring main issues.

First, many shapes are fucked up because the pixel art scaling algorithm used did a lot of misinterpretations. E.g. the inside of o is a square but the outside is octagon, although both shapes should match.

Second, diagonal lines (e.g. Z and inside of 0) are jagged in a way that just looks like an artifact from poor scaling algorithm - which it is. You don't get jaggies like that with proper NN-upscaled pixel art and 2D print mode and texture_param nearest.

Third, you have partial transparency background in tiles that commonly appear within text (. , ') so you have those ugly tile rectangles here and there within text unless you change that to truetype.

All of that just looks awful. How can you like it?

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>>155397625
he did, they're called cutebolds

>>155398063
>the inside of o is a square but the outside is octagon
>you have those ugly tile rectangles here and there within text
wtf i hate maxtm now

>>155398115
Oh yeah, I forgot about kobolds. I guess they could be called a civilisation by some.

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>>155398357
the game literally counts them as civilised. look up their entities in legends, and you'll see that they're referred to as "civilisations"

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>>155398063
I didn't use an algorithm, and you are talking about this set right: >>155384291 the transparencies are a personal preference but I do have versions without them (pic related). The shapes with the z/0 jaggies and such I left because I like them, the o exterior was a stairstep shape, I trim the stairs off to smooth it out.

Vorpal because I took the existing jagged edges and cut them down to a sharp diagonal.

>>155398656
In any case, I was talking about civilisations that were somewhat civilised, living in cities or some such.

>>155398870
Worth noting that if you want to apply the "inside is rectangle outside is not" criteria, 6, 9, male/female symbols, A, B, P, R, a, b, d, e, g, p, q, accented e/a/A/o/O, pot, anvil, bed, earring, egg, even the boulder I suppose.

That isn't the look I was going for with the set though, which was literally curses_640x300 > direct upscale x3 in gimp > rotate the eraser and expand it a few pixels > clip off corners.

>>155398870
>I didn't use an algorithm
So? Doesn't matter who did it. The original set surely did, its flaws are obviously characteristic of a bad pixel art scaler.

>the o exterior
I mentioned o just as an *example*. Almost every character has issues stemming from the same bad scaler. #%+-/=HIT[\]_il are literally the only normal text characters that aren't fucked up.

>>155400056
The original set was curses_640x300, I resized it in gimp with no interpolation, just direct 3x to fit 1920x1080, and then clipped the corners by hand.

You're talking to the bad pixel art scaler, is what I'm trying to say.

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Image is announcement log up top, with game log below.
So apparently you don't receive any announcements while unconscious.


Unrelated: So what ways do I have of investigating history in-game?

>>155395273
>that's a store, don't steal shit
This half of the continent is devoid of sentient beings, barring goblins.

>>155395714
You either have sharp defined edges, or a blurry mess.

>>155401339
If it is blurry, that's on your screen, mine is crisp.

>>155401604
Post a screenshot.

>>155401339
Forgot to add, tell a story interface has most of legends mode accessible.

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>>155401314
>I resized it in gimp with no interpolation
So whatever gimp uses with those settings is the scaling algorithm.

I thought it was a dedicated pixel art scaler like hqx, the results (and their flaws) looks very similar to it. Pic related - 3x NN scaling and hq3x comparison courtesy of wikipedia.

>>155397684
I assumed they where working together. Anyone that wanted to could hire a lawyer. I don't know Meph personally so i won't speak on his character. The modders sure do good work.

gotta fortress on a valcano with a dry dock in production. I am not sure if you know this but Orc pirates make the waters horrifying.

>>155401876
>the results (and their flaws) looks very similar to it
Actually, scratch that. Now that I look at the hq3x example I posted, it looks much better than I remembered. Only 45deg corners (like on the arrows) and cause an obvious shape mismatch.

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>>155401664
Here ya go, one with a bunch of stuff going on.

>>155401876
Well heck, that's kinda the effect I was going for, but I have no clue how to make gimp speak hq3x and whatnot, it just has none, linear, cubic, and... lancos?

All I know is it went from a block of pixels like this:
[1][2]
to one like:
[111][222]
[111][222]
[111][222]

I figured that was just direct scaling, but if there is a fancy name or something, neat!

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>>155402531
>direct scaling
That would be nearest neighbor scaling.

But your tileset sure as hell isn't NN scaled. This is what curses_640x300 looks like with 3x NN and transparent background.

>>155402237
>I assumed they where working together
They sort of are. Since the modders know that they have to be accepted into the holy Mephtershit canon in order to have anyone play their mods, most of them agree to have their work added. The extra players is all they get though. The only one to actually profit is Meph.

>>155405220
>modders know that they have to be accepted into the holy Mephtershit canon in order to have anyone play their mods
Literay what the fuck are you talking about? I use mods frequently and Meph has nothing to do with which mods I use.

Wow, you can get wrestling from zero to legendary in less than a minute real time. I wish weapon skills were as effortless to increase.

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>>155406327
With it's own subforum and wiki and all, Mastershit is generally treated as the "official DF mod". It comes as no surprise that it has far more players than any single (non-profit) mod. The only way to get a considerable playerbase for your mods is to give in to Meph, and work for free so he can make big shekels.

>modder drama
Why do you people even care?

>>155403562
Yeah, that's what I started with before I clipped the corners off.

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>>155402531
>>155403562

Compare

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>>155408879
I, uh, you what. Are you seriously telling me you spent the effort of manually redrawing a tileset on loosely imitating what a shitty pixel art scaler would do?

Okay, that's enough 4chan for the day, I need to get out and regain my sanity.

how do I get a better looking and easier on the eyes announcement screen while using Spacefox textures?

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>>155409662

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Travelled quite a ways and found what appears to be another abandoned town.

I really want to find out what happened.

>>155409821
If by "manually redrawing" you mean lining up the eraser on the corners and clipping them off, then sure?

I dunno how to get gimp to do that and didn't feel like fucking around with all the shit to get ps, get it working on arch, or figure out which other pixel art programs would be viable options.