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Dueling Network/Yu-Gi-Oh! General #2308
Last thread: >>155150941
Hippo overlay Edition

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.

YGOPro (Windows): https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B6B7GsCVf45zRUZnVHJid0N0eHc&export=download
YGOPro (Mac): https://mega.nz/#!fREAVBwZ!cOQG_5oHFKgjfwz4dVUtAW88w9gqRrvWyeFZ7zI_bVM
http://www.ygopro.co/Forum/tabid/95/g/posts/t/23339/The-Ultimate-HQ-Card-Project (High Quality YGOPro images)

Useful Links:
Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/
OCG decklists:
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
https://ygorganization.com/category/decklists/ocg-decklist/weekly-ocg-decklist/
TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists
TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/
Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/
Official /dng/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Structure Deck R: Machine Dragon Re-Volt (September 24th)
●OCG: Raging Tempest (October 8th)
●OCG: Booster SP: Fusion Enforcers (November 12)
●OCG: Dimension Box Limited Edition (November 26)

●TCG: Legendary Decks II (October 7th)
●TCG: Structure Decks Yugi Muto and Seto Kaiba (October 21st)
●TCG: Invasion: Venom (November 4th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP.
● Read the cards.
● Lurk and read the archives.
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above.
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play.
● If you want to improve, netdeck and playtest constantly.
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>>155247721
cute.
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I want to have sex with Gagaga Sister!
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>>155248446
But that's a crime anon.
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>>155247721
Look at that, both my two soul crushingly bad hobbies put together.
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Don't forget there is literally no yugioh girl more perfect.
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>>155248785
hello?
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milf edition
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>>155248946
Delicious brown does come close I will admit.
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I hope you niggers like 2v1 boss duels
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>>155248946
posting superior brownfu
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What do you do when going first as Fluffals? Just pass and hope they don't OTK?
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>>155248696
could be crossdresing? @.@
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>>155249552
Okay, three.
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>>155249672
ay anon...
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>>155249309
Posting superior whitefu
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What is the safest current deck to invest in?
I mean something that will last for years like Burning Abyss did
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Infernoid and Shaddoll support when?
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>>155250206
delet this
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>>155250337
There's no way to tell, Konami is very capricious with the list. BA was begging to be hit, it looked just like all the other DUEA-era archetypes, if not better, but they just didn't do it.
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I just pulled this card in an irl millennium pack. Why's it worth so much? Should I sell it? I'm in NZ so there's prob not a lot of buyers here but I don't think I'll use it and that's an allright price.
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im the guy from last thread who wanted to play some games and asked for this supposedly new ritual fairy deck

does someone by any chance have a deck profile/good article about it?
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>>155250747
Do you play Qlis? If not, sell it.
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>Natseyas NTR effect isnt once per turn
what the fuck is this
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>>155250808
No I only play casual with friends and with cards I like. How do I even go about selling it here?
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>>155250887
By here I mean New Zealand, not this general
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>>155251132
i thought he would go for trish when I saw a level 1 tuner and two level 4s
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>>155251275
We thought the same
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>>155251132
if only he went into lightning first.
>hazy flame cardian
alright what the fuck is this build
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>>155251132
KOI KOI
KOI KOI
KOI KOI
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>>155251516
>soldier meme
I blame it on the misfortune of their birth
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>>155251516
Does the rain guy also protect from battle?
If not he's just going to crash Dragon Buster in to it.
>not even going for rank 4 with the gadgets
Cyber Dragon Infinity was a mistake, tunneling into it has just ruined the mental capabilities of people.
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>>155251864
rain guy does not protect from battle

that's part of why r4nk spam would stomp him, because za raitoningu baby you can beat him when he's in defense and dont even need to lose a dragon buster

although it's not like cardians are worth preparing for anyway
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Since the GX manga has a track record of giving normal monster op effects when they get printed. Wat can we expect from this guy when he shows up in the next Premium Pack?
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>>155252254
special summons another darklord(see: superbia spam) from grave
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>Quliphort Monolith 100 dollars on TCGplayer, few listings on Amazon/eBay for 50-60
>Gold Daigusto Emeral at 16 dollars
>Omega breaking 65
>Quaking Mirror Force now at 18-20 dollars
>Literally no listings on eBay/TCGplayer for Atlantean Dragoons
The YCS hype is real
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>>155252470
Are mermails meta again
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>Activating Maxx ''C'' against D/D's
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>>155252738

Water have been consistantly rogue for like 2 years
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Damn, just had an ABC mirror where the guy banished 3 A's both rounds with pot of stupidity(first round wasn't his fault he drew nothing to protect him or any setup cards, he basically was forced too). The funniest part of round 2 is he used pot BEFORE searching with the field in his hand to deck thin. I swear this card brings out the retard in people.
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Lara!
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Dead on arrival?
He at least had a chance in this format but with ABC and Treatoad coming out before Eternal Soul I don't think he stands a chance in the TCG anymore
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>>155250787
just say Iron Core 3 times
but imo Taiga has the better deck
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>>155253213
I believe it's been doing exactly what it was designed to do. Make people do stupid shit cause their greedy for the +1
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>>155253368
He was never good. Needs more cards like apprentice Illusion magician because as of right now the deck is too normal summon dependent.
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>>155253694
>the deck is too normal summon dependent.
that's not true, DM's real weakness is bricking and he has no non-targeting removal (yea i know oblivion doesn't target but he destroys so it's 50/50, plus he has to be destroyed for that effect)
DM would've been good if DMC didn't target.
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>>155253598
i have no idea what you mean but im copying this guy now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKMncdw7uwk

if im not satisfied im just going to use an oldschool one
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>>155252951
This.
They got a bit of a showing at YCS Mexico with 3 in top 32 with one of them making top 16.
Expect them to drop off after ABC drops and have some slim viability with Treetoad.
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>>155253249
cute!!!
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>>155253858
>DM would've been good if DMC didn't target
So basically just become a worse Kozmojo?
Literally the only thing which changes is that it can now out hexproof cards which are now all irrelevant anyways.
One banishing a turn isn't enough do anything, just minor disruption which any decent deck can easily recover from.
Look at ABC, they need to discard for the same removal and yet they're doing extremely well anyways.
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>>155253858
Ok then fill me in on the sick fields bro. Not every meta deck has non targeting. There's ore to a T1 deck than that.
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What's a nice DM deck?
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>>155253249
>>155254612

Buy her mat /dng/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREE-SHIPPING-Yugioh-Playmat-Ritual-Beast-Ulti-Apelio-Play-Mat-Large-Mouse-Pad-/262056359824?hash=item3d03c6b790
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>>155254868
No such thing exist currently.
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>>155254904
>not
http://www.coretcg.com/catalog/yugioh_supplies_and_accessories-yugioh_themed_playmats-coretcg_exclusive_playmats/coretcg_exclusive_playmat__ritual_beast_ultiapelio_spring_2015/230043
do you even support our girl?
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>>155255145

That looks nowhere close to as good as the other mat.
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>>155254904
>tfw poor and just got a new mat anyway
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>>155254689
>Look at ABC, they need to discard for the same removal and yet they're doing extremely well anyways.
that's because ABC is their end game play after doing all their xyz shit
i actually don't know how you think it's a worse kozmojo when it's a continious spell and there's a bunch of traps that ss a dark magician during the opponent's turn
and there are still some hexproof cards that are relevant i.e. azure eff which is used in bewd, aka a meta deck
>>155254780
metalfoes have non targeting removal
bewd just attacks over you since they have big beaters and they're inmune to shit since azure exists
Toadlaw is a soft lock so they don't need that hexproff shit since they can just negate anything and steal it while having a 1 sided macro cosmos
DDD have a soft lock so again they don't need to be hexproof
are you seeing a pattern here? the only decks that aren't hexproof have other big advantages, dm doesn't have that, bro
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>>155255248
OUR GIRL
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>>155255293
Every time I open this thread I see your self-important ass posting. No one cares about your opinions.
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>>155255384
then stop replying to me
i don't even want your shitty (You)
please just filter me
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>>155255481
Just kill yourself and save everyone the trouble. It's a net gain of happiness for everyone.
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I quit yugioh like 6 months ago but I heard that dueling network is kill. Purely out of curiosity why haven't you guys renamed to ygopro general or something?
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>>155255821
TRADITON
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>>155255821
Tradition, so people like you can still find it, and because it triggers like 2 autists really hard.
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>>155255293
>bewd just attacks over you since they have big beaters and they're inmune to shit since azure exists
protecting from targeting =/= need for non targeting removal. Them getting a better form of removal over circle is highly unlikely.

>Toadlaw is a soft lock so they don't need that hexproff shit since they can just negate anything and steal it while having a 1 sided macro cosmos

You're contracting your self by saying a deck NEEDS non targeting to be T1. You gave different examples in your own post against your first argument. Lets say circle was non targeting, it still doesn't bump them up with the big boys.

The truth is they can take various way to make the deck stronger without going your "correct" assumed route.
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>>155255821
It probably would be named YGOPro if wasn't for the shitposter who made dozen of fake threads and spammed /dng/ way before DN going down.
Now there's a serious aversion to the idea of YGOPro general.
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>>155255293
>i actually don't know how you think it's a worse kozmojo when it's a continious spell
You can just chain MST to it and the effect fizzles, with Kozmojo you need to negate it or they're getting a new ship and you just lost a card.
>traps which ss a dark magician during the opponent's turn
Even If you banish something 2500 atk is easy to punch over.
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>>155255481
(You)
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>>155256817
>You can just chain MST to it and the effect fizzles, with Kozmojo you need to negate it or they're getting a new ship and you just lost a card.
kozmojo is also a pink card, which makes it slow as fuck in this meta
>Even If you banish something 2500 atk is easy to punch over.
what is apprentice illusion and magic expand
>>155256243
>You're contracting your self by saying a deck NEEDS non targeting to be T1. You gave different examples in your own post against your first argument. Lets say circle was non targeting, it still doesn't bump them up with the big boys.
if i didn't write it like this then i apologize but i MEANT that DM needs it to be T1, other decks don't because they have other things to make up for the fact that they aren't hexproof (having soft locks and such)
and circle not targeting would actually bump it immensely
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>every other old deck theme gets several cards
>most are complete shit anyways
>Frogs get a single card
>it destroys the meta
So what is the legacy support power ranking now?
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>>155259171
>kozmojo is also a pink card, which makes it slow as fuck in this meta
Unless you feel like paying 4k LP to get a mediocre "boss monster" on the field, the only 2 half decent other archetype specific ways to summon DM are pink cards.
Other than the 2100/2500 card, which is pretty shit anyway.
Saying Kozmojo is worse than Dark Magic Circle because its a trap card is fucking retarded, no, saying ANY card is worse than Dark Magic Circle because its a trap card is fucking retarded, because those cards aren't tied to a shitty archetype that loses to itself.
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>>155259934
Dragon Rulers destroyed the meta.
Nekroz destroyed the meta.
PePe destroyed the meta.

Treatoad isn't even honorable mention.
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How many times has konami come close to getting it right with card design?
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>>155261256
Book of moon.
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>>155249412
Sheep with a set FF march.
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R8 please.
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>be sitting in the cafeteria
>some neckbeard is saying how Psy-Frames are based off Kamen Rider
>says Inzektors aren't
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>tfw they keep shilling the cards of the anime characters but you want to be a special snowflake
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>>155260572
dark magic veil can special summon a dark magician without having to pay 4kLP
also kozmojo is tied to an archtype just like Dark Magic Circle
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>>155262843
>Shit Infernoid Build
How redundant.
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>>155263190
Redundancy is key for communication, and efficiency.
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>>155262843
>Psyframes
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>>155263609
Actually just Gamma, Driver, and Omega. I figure nothing I hit with reasoning/monster gate will matter since gamma can't be special summoned by either and driver is a vanilla.
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>>155261256
Rai-oh
Doomcalibur
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>>155261256
Chaos Sorcerer
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>>155263747
>>155264102
why?
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>>155263746
>p s y f r a m e s
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>Qliphort Monolith is nearing 100$

TCGs massive boner for Infinity still going strong i see. It's going to be fun to see people realize it aint even that great of a Metalfoes tech.
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>>155265279
It's searchable within the standard archetype cards, and you can still fusion summon with them if something goes wrong.
it's an ok tech.
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Suggestions please?

It's only a deck to play friends with to make ridiculous OTKs, I don't expect it to be meta.
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>>155266090
>Rank-Down in the main
>No Roots in the Extra
Why?
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>>155265762
>it's an ok tech.

Never implied otherwise, friend. But it's certainly not a 100 dollar worth tech, might as well start hyping Sloth to crazy prices if any decent tech for the deck qualifies.
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lmao, holy shit the madman dropped gren maju, the memes are real.
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>>155265279
All of that just to make cdi in metalfoes? What the fuck is wrong with people?
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>>155266258
I rank-up>rank-down several times then use stoic challenge for anime shit but I admit I have literally no idea how to make a good r4nk engine and how to make this deck efficient.

Mostly doing it for shit and giggle.
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>>155264671
Chaos Sorc guy here. It was one of the best low power cards to introduce banishing it also couldn't attack after it did and had 100 attack less than the popular threshold at that time to balance out the then powerful effect.
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>>155266614
Try this, but with stupid Utopia support cards instead of Treatoad spam.
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Are subterrors gonna be meta or are we looking at Noble Knights 2.0?
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>>155267165
every flip based deck needs a miracle to be meta, do you believe in miracles?
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>>155267165
Ask again when the INOV support comes out since that will probably be the breaking point for both Subterrors and Spyrals.
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>>155267165
BA box set when?
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>>155267275
next year so they can keep it going 3yrs strong
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>>155267242
If it happened to Shaddolls anything is possible.
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should i bother with metalfoes?
should i bother with anything at all or just wait for ABC to kill myself?
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>>155267334
As long as they're not in an ugly rarity
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>>155267507
Platinum Rare and Platinum Secret Rare are best rarity
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>>155267609
It literally looks like some of the fake cards I got as a kid
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>>155267507
>The BA box set comes out
>All in KC rarity
>Beatrice, Cir and Graff go to 3 so they can sell more boxes
>Then they ban Dante ;^)
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>>155267379
Shadolls didn't really utilize their flip effects though, that was more of an added bonus.
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>>155267864
>outright ban donte
max they'll ever do for a long while is 1 in tcg
tewart would never just right kill his son like that
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>>155268003
Why do they love Dante so much?
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>>155268003
Heh nice is this a john cena reference??
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w2c Italian Burning Abyss cards for the aesthetic
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>>155267242

prediction princess is sooo close to being good, just needs more consistency
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>>155268143
you have to be 18 to use this site
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>>155268143
Disgusting.
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>>155268336
>posting league of legends
w h y
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>>155268471
That's not what i wanted to post, how long has that bug been around?
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shit thread
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This game has gone to shit. Old Yugioh was way more fun.
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>>155267265
Speaking of INOV should I buy a box I know that Treatoad and Dimension Boundary are gonna be good but what othet cards are gonna be worth the 75 dollar investment
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>>155268614
what did you post
>that means lolg got a dng pic
time to check it out
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When are they revealing Best Girl to accompany Best Boy for RATE?
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>>155269524
What if she don't come in RATE?
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>>155269836
Don't fuck with me anon I've been waiting for spirits to become even remotely relevant
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>>155269998
>Wait for Gemini support for years
>Get it
>It's bad
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>>155270284
Spark Field is pretty amazing (though it could be even better), but the Chemical Beasts themselves are just so incredibly underwhelming. It's a shame, since Methane Hyd has a pretty cool design.
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>>155270343
wait, has anyone tried to use the OG geminis with brilliant and spark field?
you think that would work?
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>>155270419
It would absolutely work. It wouldn't be competitive, obviously, but it'd work. I'll probably whip one up when I have time myself since Gemini have always been a favorite of mine.
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hey boys, lookin for those Supervises?
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>>155270668
>that one dude who bought like 35 of them out of hype
how disapointed must they be
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>>155270668
What are even the best tuners to run in Gemini? This and Black Brutdrago aren't bad but not having any good Gemini tuners hurts.
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>>155271002
well we are memeing about brilliant fusion, so you know the usual
>mill lazuli and galaxy serpent
>lazuli add galaxy serpent to hand
>normal galaxy serpent
>make power tools
you may have luck getting serpent and your materials for power tools/brutdrago with silent doom and gemini spark too
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Why are BEWD netdeckers so bad?
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>>155271342
does BE actually need spell destruction removal enough to use raigeki?
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>>155271342
ENJOY
ENJOY
ENJOY
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>>155271418
Beats me.
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>>155271342
Another reason to run twin burst.
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>>155270284
Don't know about you, but I had fun with Spark Field for about a week.
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>>155271565
UTOPIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Fuck that card, not just for being an easy out to every boss monster in the game but also for beinga necessary evil with all these towers-tier monsters floating everywhere since a card is worthless if it's targetable.
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post cardians
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>>155271815
The R4 toolbox was a mistake.
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>>155271815
>People playing Chaos MAX, Ulti Falcon, or Magnus

They didn't even get meme used in Worlds
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>>155271864
cardians >>155271563
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>>155271890
XYZ In general was a mistake, introduce 101 as an out to shit like Construct who are normally really fucking hard to deal with without just giving them a fusion back, btu then they said fuck it and made Castel because 101 was actually balanced.
And now we have Utopia the lighting which just shits on everything because bringing out 2 level 4's is such a piss easy thing to do even without building your deck for it that you've got entire archtypes that revolved around just spamming 2 monsters and slapping them together for crazy strong monsters who are "balanced" by the "limited number of effect uses"

t. Extremely salty synchrofag.
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>>155271276
I am now definitely considering the possibility of making a gigavise+il blud themed zombie+plant synchro goodstuff.dek

dude plants vs. zombies lmao
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>30 MST
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>>155272358
Play red-stone and Shrine, set 3 Return of the red-eyes
Your move Capcum.
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>>155272034

I'm conflicted. I like cards like Castel and Lightning; every deck, even a shitty beatdown from 2004, should have access to generic one-use outs to common problems

On the other hand, there's Treatoad/Harbringer/Rafflesia/etc. which encourages just sitting on shit
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>>155272642
I dislike both, both of them kind of disrubt the opponents play "okay i spent some resources on thi, oh you summoned 2 level 4's?, t-thats fine it's not like i had to use 3 cards to make that..."
If it's a Spell or Trap i'm fine since you need to DRAW into those, but XYZ outs are literally just whenever you bring out 2 of your many level 4's.
I do hate shit like Treatoad and Rafflesia more since they don't even let you masturbate. At least with Castel it lets you Masturbate with your combos but you just get blue-balled, Rafflesia 'n shit just don't let you even enjoy doing your combo's.
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>>155271276

not the guy, but what ratios are commonly used? I only run 1 lazuli but find myself drawing into it a good deal of the times
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>>155272857

I'd agree with you if it was several years ago, but nowadays most shit doesn't require a lot of effort or resources to summon. Kozmos trade a single pilot for hexproof 2500+ monsters, BE is practically free, even Towers gave you your investment back if you used Monolith

In comparison, 2 cards to get rid of a single threat seems like a fair trade
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>>155273563
Exactly, that's why i hate it, it's existance pisses me off but it's a nececary evil to keep up with just how much the game has been power creeped since DUEA.

I'd say something stupid like "Monster nowadays are only that amazing so that you don't auto-lose because you poured resources into something that just gets Castel'd or Utopia'd" but that's a bold claim.
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>subs translate Nani as WTF
Really feeling that 2008 spirit there, 5D's.
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Just found out about Watts, what's a decent build for them? Attacking over kozmos and pends sounds like a fun time, not sure if I should try some janky "12 mirror forces + demise" build or include xyz options
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>>155274216
Watts have long been outclassed. but thunder sea horse anti ss, mirror forces, waboku variants etc shit to keep you cards on the field. Basically a stub deck that can attack directly
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Is anyone else having issues with Checkmate like not being able to get into matches?
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On the discussion of negation and checks and balances, while people do get upset about shit like frog and infinity i feel they're fairer cards in today's game, where the newer decks have the tools to trade/bait a negation. Azzathoth on the other hand is an idea of "balance" i hate, it stop every single thing in 1 fell swoop and it's basically god's chosen level 4. It's weird how it's been a thing since 2014 and we still haven't gotten it.
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1-3 Front Mission 3
4-6 Star Force 3
7-9 Spyro 2
0 Do some rated then reroll
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>>155275784

Infinity is alright, it's frogs I'm salty about. The card stealing is fine, it's that having a Treatoad makes it very easy for you to get summon another Treatoad, since it gives you a free frog and recycles itself
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>>155277389
If bahamit shark got the axe treatoad wouldnt even be relevant outside of burgers.
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Are there splashable cards that can make lv8 synchros easily? Basically wondering if there's a synchro equivalent to shit like myrmeleo/dionaea
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>>155280569
destiny hero malicious with lvl 2 tuner
>toss him into graveyard
>banish to play one
>synchro
>banish again
>do again if you have another tuner
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Are Metalfoes and PSY-Frames a good combination in a Psychic-centric deck?
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>>155280784
Read the PSY-Frame cards.
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>>155247721
Too pink for me.
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I´m getting a bit nostalgic /dng/. What were your first duels like, when you started to play?

I for my part only played with people that had the starter decks (I played with the pegasus one), until I ran into yata garasu lockdown, at the tender age of 11.
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>>155280620

danke, sounds fun and I heard destiny heroes got new support recently so I'll def look into it
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>>155281187
I remember playing really shit cards but getting in to a bet about winning a duel with some other guy. Then my friend made me this really good (well sort of) deck with exodia in it. I was then versing this guy and near loss when i drew the 5th piece. This guy conned me though and said i needed to play it, so i played a piece a turn and got all 5 out and attacked. Then he said it needed to be a direct attack to win. Then he played change of heart on my exodia.
That was one of the weirdest duels to me, we didnt even finish it i think.
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>>155281187
I only started playing recently, and my first deck I tried to use online was Aliens.
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>>155281926
>choosing aliens
wtf aliens are shit
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>>155282046

The new support card makes them ~okay~. It's essentially Gol'gar + pop 2 for a single card, and reusing shit like deck lockdown and fiendish chain is bretty cool
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>>155283074
What cards are to the left of Bottomless? What's the Spell to the right Twin Twister?
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>>155281187
Dude I loved every single common I owned. Didn't know about sleves back tben but my cards were so crisp. Fell in love with the new pack smell ever since.
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>>155283634
Prohibition, Deck lockdown, alien recombination (?) device
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>>155247721
Is Anti-Kaiju out in the OCG yet? I'm still waiting on seeing the ruling it has with Slumber.
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>>155284723
Its been out, ocg says mecha godzilla is a nomi and cant use summoned off slumber
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>>155272358
I thought the same thing when I read the chap. lel
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>>155284810
>ocg says mecha godzilla is a nomi and cant use summoned off slumber
Fuck. Now I've gotta fix up my Kaiju deck.

Then again, I guess I should thank you. You've saved me a tiny bit of money that I would've wasted getting a second Anti-Kaiju.
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>>155284810
>>155286992
...odd that the Wiki doesn't have a Rulings page on it.
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>>155287049
Mostly because it's relatively new.
https://ygorganization.com/ocg-091516-rulings/
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Percy still hasn't updated the kaiju slumber ruling with a kaiju on the field. What the living fuck.
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>>155286992
>>155285074
>>155284810
That ruling does NOT apply in the TCG until they say otherwise. This is basic TCG vs OCG shit, guys. Until KoA says Anti-Dogoran is a nomi, the text implies it isn't here, so it isn't.
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>>155288320
???

Also, FYI, you can also Slumber over a Kaiju in the TCG, ruled by R&D via Julia, same as Burgers were. Though that ruling happen back in February IIRC.
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>>155289373
Yes... currently you can't use it while 1 is on the field in pro. I'm aware it works the same in both regions, read my post again.
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>>155289696
Sorry, I misread. I'll expect Percy to update the ruling about as fast as he spots every other error reported on the forums. So never. Fucking Botan ni Cho is STILL broken.
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>>155281187
Had nothing but fake cards and no one knew the rules so we just followed Duelist Kingdom rules

Some kid fused Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon on me the first turn (he summoned it by stacking three blue eyes on top of each other) and wiped out my Mystical Elf. Ended up losing that one. Next round I faked shuffled my cards and drew into Exodia easily.
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>play ygopro
>be anon
>opponent "i played alot of times against you haha"

anyway im trying this new ritual fairy deck and it sucks, im going back to oldschool
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Last deck I played was a Yubel deck but nostalgia hit me hard when I saw Exodia Incarnate. Are Exodia decks still fairly viable, I mean it's just a deck based on drawing and getting the pieces in hand right? With other non Exodia back up plans of course.
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>>155290760
Herald ft. Benten and the field spell is actually good. Hieratic Cyber Angels is not competitive but it's fun.
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>>155290760
wait what the fuck, preparation of rites is at 1
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>>155291137
Blame Cosplayers.
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>>155291137
We can't have legacy characters actually having competitively-viable decks. Also Nekroz Boogeyman I guess.

Reminder that TCG STILL won't unlimit Granmole despite it being an unsearchable piece of shit that doesn't even get rid of every potential threat and dies to a single effect negation.
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>>155290771
Your best shot at Exodia today is propably Exodia stun with Summoned Lord. And it doesn't even use the main Wincon. If you want to go full madman, you could also run Into the Void in Exodia FTK.
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>>155286992
stop falling for jap plots.
Mecha dogoran works just fine as worded in the TCG.(with the bullshit kaiju ruling that both have)
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>>155291385
>>155291421
thanks lads, i dont like safira, i want to focus on herald, im going to try this but i dont think its good
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share your chemical beast lists
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>>155292545
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>>155292659
This is cute and I will use whatever I need to to justify using it
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>>155292053
>Moki Moki
based
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>>155292545
>>155292659
What are these?
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>>155293002
New generic spirit monster and a new Deck Destruction Virus. Neither of them have translations yet.
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>>155284810
>ocg says mecha godzilla is a nomi
>no "and can't be special summoned by other ways" clause
are nips low iq? serious question
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>>155290771
>With other non Exodia back up plans of course.
Why? Go big or go home.
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>when you open Tin Goldfish, E-Hero Bubbleman, and Instant Fusion going first
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>>155247721
Why is astolfo on a yu gi oh thread
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>>155289229
Until KoA makes official statement regarding Kaiju, the OCG one applies.
The text in Nips also implies it's not a nomi, I think.
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Is Ultimeme Tzolkin a fair and balanced card?
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>>155292659
>Botulism Bat Virus
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>>155293097
>and a new Deck Destruction Virus
Oh boy
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>>155291421
>Granmole despite it being an unsearchable piece of shit
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>>155293991
No, anything the OCG says doesn't apply to the TCG, and vis versa. The TCG text does not have the usual PSCT Nomi text, meaning it isn't Nomi here. Unless Konami of AMERICA erratas it or states otherwise, it's not nomi or semi-nomi.

So, while here it's not, in OCG it is, see https://ygorganization.com/ocg-extra-pack-2016-rulings/
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>>155292545
Aqua-Type Spirit
If summoned, it targets a monster and turns it into a Spirit monster which will then return to the hand during the End Phase

>>155292659
Tribute a DARK monster with 2000 or more defense. you look at your opponent's hand during each of their draw phase and all monsters they control, and destroy the monsters among them with 1500 or less DEF.

I think that's what they do
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>>155294184
>Jester Confit
meh

>def Devestation virus
neat
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>>155293424
Frog is nomi

>>155293926
Absolute 0?
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>>155292545
This card cannot be Special Summoned.
(1) If this card if Normal Summonedor flipped face-up, target one face-up monster on the field. That monster is treated as a Spirit Monster, and returns to the hand during the End Phase.

Hopefully that's right.
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>>155294184
In the video this goes with they use the spirit monster to trigger Legacy of the Legacy of Yata-Garasu.

Video for the 2 new cards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qslvEf84txs
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>>155294469
no my sekrit tech!
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Unwatered Kaiba virus canon when
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>>155294184
>Tribute a DARK monster with 2000 or more defense
This is gonna go to my D/D/D.
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>>155294163
OCG Anti-Kaiju text, as printed there, also doesn't have nomi restriction.
It still ruled as nomi.

BKSS applies since TCG doesn't have any official statement regarding it, and OCG rules is as official as it can get.
We can have different rules, but only if the official statement of both OCG and TCG differ.
And we don't have any official statement regarding Anti-Kaiju in TCG.
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>>155294415
>If this card if Normal Summoned or flipped face-up,
Damn.
Can't summon it via Hiko on opponent's turn, then use it's effect to trigger Legacy of Yata.
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>>155294016
He himself is balanced, the cards he summons are not. Like baha shark.
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>>155294565
>Virus card type
>Can't be stopped by any form of negation
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>>155294915
How did pegasus evades it, and then use it on Kaiba?
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>>155294990
It was another Virus, and he powered up the monster so it couldn't be tributed.
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>>155294184
>New Deck Dev
Going right into my Phantom Knights
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>>155294990
Never read the manga but guessing pic related had something to do with it.
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>>155295023
>tribute is the cost
>chain card that powers up the tributed monster so it fizzles
It's so close to being a legal play.
Too bad it's still illegal.
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>>155294565
>Card type: Virus
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>>155294184
S-so when does the new Dev wear off? It wears off, right?
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>>155295271
3 turns.
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>>155294184
>you look at your opponent's hand during each of their draw phase and all monsters they control, and destroy the monsters among them with 1500 or less DEF
>1500 or less DEF
Not even Chaos MAX in hand is safe.
Too bad it's still a destruction effect.
And only occur in Draw Phase.
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>>155292545
RATE-JP030
Kawanokami
WATER/LV4/Aqua/Spirit/Effect/1800/600
Cannot be Special Summoned.
1. If this card is Normal Summoned or flipped face-up: You can target 1 face-up monster on the field; Treat that monster as a Spirit monster, and it is returned to the hand during the End Phase.
2. Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this card was Normal Summoned or flipped face-up this turn: Return it to the hand.

>>155292659
RATE-JP078
影のデッキ破壊ウイルス(Literally translates to “Deck Destruction Virus of Shadows”, yes, it’s a virus trap)
Normal Trap
1. Tribute 1 Dark Monster with 2000 or more DEF; check your opponent’s hand, all monsters they control, and all cards they draw until the end of their 3rd turn after this card’s activation, and destroy all those monsters with 1500 or less DEF.
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>>155295406
>check your opponent’s hand, all monsters they control, and all cards they draw until the end of their 3rd turn after this card’s activation, and destroy all those monsters with 1500 or less DEF.
>lingering effect to destroy all monster with 1500 or less DEF
Does the Destroy effect starts a chain?
If not, then I guess no Castel, Abyss Dweller, Treatoad, Shadow Mist, Bubbleman, and many other things.
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The ritual got revealed but the effect is unreadable.
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>>155295721
pretty sure all traps start a chain unless it says it doesnt
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>>155295774
You're right, it's so small that I missed it.
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>>155295406
>Heh, you thought we were done?
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>>155295775
Let's say that the trap is resolved, and destroy all monster, etc.

If my opponent happened to to summon Abyss Dweller, can he chain it's effect before it's destroyed?
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>>155295841
Oh she looks pretty even in blurry form.also she's a lv8 wich it's a bit much but now there are more reasons to run trade-in.
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>>155295841
>level 8
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>>155295775
Does Rivalry of Warlord effect starts a chain if Omega returns to field, and you have non-Psychic monster?
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>>155296135
no afaik rivalry of warlords is a continuos eff when te card starts a chain is on activation.
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>>155296357
Exactly.
Now, does that new Deck Destruction Virus destruction effect starts a chain, if it has been resolved before?
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>>155296135
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Rivalry_of_Warlords
I'm not sure. For such a simple sounding card, there rulings are kind of complicated.
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>>155296529
Yes.
Same with all the other virus cards.
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>>155295918
It only checks the field and hand when activated. Monsters summoned after are safe from it, like the other viruses
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>>155296779
>like the other viruses
Damn.
I've been tricked countless times by thinking otherwise.
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>retards don't know about lingering effects

Are you fuckers from coming from pojo or something?

I swear lately i've seen more retarded shit than usual, like that par of retards who kept arguing for about half thread about an already available ruling.
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>>155296629
So basically, if I draw monster with 1500 or less DEF, and the destruction effect activates, I can chain Twin Twister, discarding the drawn monster?
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>>155297142
You're just retarded.

The viruses have never destroyed things summoned AFTER they were activated.
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>>155297256
No, the monster is destroyed immediately upon being drawn.
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>>155297256
No you fucking idiot, is this your first time playing the game or something?
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>>155297256
No.
I thought you meant something like if it destroys something like Dark Destroyer, which would trigger its effect and start a chain.
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>>155297384
>>155297385
That means this anon is wrong. >>155295775
I just want to prove that.
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>2nd ritual not really revealed
>will have to wait at least 24 hours for PERCY to add the new Spirit
Fucking end my life desu senpai, I'm being blueballed.
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>>155297516
Have you never heard of a lingering effect until today

Please please PLEASE for the love of god read the OP and actually check the goddamn wiki
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>>155297282
>check your opponent's hand, all monsters they control, and all cards they draw until the end of their 3rd turn after this card's activation
>(A, B, and C) until X
>A, B, and (C until X)
Let's just say the wording is a bit ambiguous.
And people rarely use virus these days.
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>>155297831
"We won't know for sure until rulings come out" Shut the fuck up Azneyes you fucking idiot. We know exactly how the card works.
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>Crush Card Virus
>old as fuck card and really well known since it was one of Kaiba's most popular cards
>people still don't understand lingering effects
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Why did i exactly download ygopro? This shit is dead as fuck, there are like 5 matches going on at all times.
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Is it worth running the Ounter Entitys in ABCs? I lost in a mirror match because of them.
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>>155298691
>This shit is dead as fuck
It is at this hour.
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>>155298691
Dunno what server you are playing on, but usually I have at least 7 to 12 available games after a refresh.
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>>155298691
at night there's more people anon
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>>155298723
Here's my deck. Have 2 extra slots
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>>155298691
Don't use Percy for casual duels. Its GUI is fucking garbage.

Use DevPro. Percy is for Checkmate only.
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>>155298691
Are you in the Yoorop server?
That's the only server with little activity
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>>155298761
>>155298805
>>155298820
>>155299074
>>155299078
well i guess i will download devpro because the ones in ygopro i won 5 duals in a row by instant surrender as i get out herald in my first turn, shit in my day people atleast tried to fight back
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>>155299187
>it's a "i'm gonna complain about my opponents insta scooping when i'm playing in unranked/shit ranking" episode

every
fucking
time
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>>155298503
>Crush Card
>lingering
It's 2016, gramps
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>>155299335
yeah but atleast use whatever you have in your hand, one time i had literally no fairies and the enemy quit anyway
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>>155270419
im using red-eyes with spark field and it works pretty good
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>>155299414
That's how scrubs are.
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>>155299414
>it's a "i'm gonna keep complaining about shitters doing shitter things when i keep playing on unranked/shitter rank" episode

every
fucking
time
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>>155298842
>>155298723
Anyone?
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>>155299348
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Lingering_Effect
Why the fuck is this place getting worse?
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>want to play ranked
>remember I forgot my password 3 eons ago
Oh, right
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>>155299547
>>155299597
man i hope they make a new ps4 game soon i enjoyed legacy of the duelist

besides i dont have good memories about rank, blue boy/dragon rulers meta was complete fucking aids, after that everything got hit and we had a really fun ranked scene where alot of decks were viable, the community finally thought konami got to their senses and a week later they bring out that op as fuck dark monster thing that sends monsters to the grave

i got triggered way too many times playing this game seriously
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I don't understand, you always talk about how shit destruction and targeting is, yet Rank 4 spam is still feared. If nothing can be targeted or destroyed, why are cards like Castel or Dire Wolf still played much less feared?
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>>155299696
Winter is coming.
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>>155299696
>hurr but the wiki!!!
Are you retarded?
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Crush_Card_Virus
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>>155299736
>Rank 4 spam is still feared
what.
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>>155299702
I thought they reset it few days ago.
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Leaks on the TCG stuff for INOV when? I want Subterrors to be good.
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>>155247721
>●TCG: Invasion: Venom (November 4th)
You sure about that, buddy?
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What happened with that youtuber who was invited to Konami EU to spoil INOV?
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>>155300217
Alintheo? or whatever his name was
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>>155300391
I think so.
Did that ever happen yet?
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>>155295841
>not level 4
DROPPED
if Hiko is any indication, she'll still probably be good.
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>>155300475
I think he was invited to a ycs or something not sure.
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>>155299906
They literally just had a discussion about XYZ Rank 4 unfairness ITT
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>>155300198
Are YOU sure about that retard?
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Crush_Card_Virus
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>>155295406
>new spirit
>not even an Espirit, just a regular old spirit
>effect is a slower version but slightly more versatile version of Rasetsu
for what reason
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hey guys when I use maxx "c" does it start a chain when I draw?
I don't understand lingering effects so don't bother explaining them, and I won't take "no" as an answer for my question either
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>>155300646
Found that video, he was invited to Konami HQ in europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeO0GcRTIX0
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>>155300498
her being lv8 isn't so bad the effect might make up for it.
>>155300931
For the sekrit tech yata trap
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>>155300861
Not R4 Spam.
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who /waga tamashi/ here?
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So whos waiting for a Spark Field for Spirit monsters?
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>>155301184
There's 2 cards that already do that.
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RIP in pieces, Level Eater

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29688055
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>>155301339
Normal summon a Spirit without tribute once per turn?
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>>155301370
RIP Synchro fun.
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>>155301339
What, the ritual and Nikitama?
I'm talking about a continuous effect.
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>>155301184
This would be the absolute best. Hannagi would actually be useful outside of summoning Hiko, which would lead to situations where you could summon Hannagi, then Nikitama, draw one, summon Aratama, search one, R4, detach Nikitama, draw another. Also getting out the 2 tribute spirits in one turn.
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>>155301625
>>155301456
Oh, I assumed he meant an extra normal summon.
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>>155299736
Because everyone likes to be le super smart contrarian and meme about how targeting and destruction are totally shit
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>>155301625
Doesn't Niki miss timing when detached as Xyz material?
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>>155301735
Does The White Stone of Legend?
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>>155301078
Regardless, Rank 4 isn't even that good. Castel got powercreeped months ago.
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>>155301458
>needing Level Eater for synchro masturbation
Do you even overlords?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29686915
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>>155301735
Nope, it's mandatory, not optional.
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>>155301735
It's mandatory.
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>>155301735
no you probably dindn't have a spirit on field.
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ONE
LEFT
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>>155300952
No, drawing doesn't start a chain but if you're wondering because of dark law, dark law gets to banish for every draw after he's summoned.
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Okay. So. I asked like last week-ish for advice, and what I got was never clarified on.
Any suggestions for this? I remember being told to swap out Shield, but not just what for, and I realize I probably shouldn't run two different field spells.
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>>155301845
R4 is good since it only need 2 level 4 monster, and practically available anytime you want.
Now, if your targeting removal needs more resource than that, or depends on practically unsearchable card, it's basically shit.

Targets also means your opponent can respond effectively to your effect activation. For example, by chains floating effect, use that monster as effect, etc.
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>>155302020
>dark law gets to banish for every draw after he's summoned
>every draw
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>>155299613

Is certainly worth running it over Dante in ABC, you fuck.
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Most underrated archtype?
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What card causes the most nightmares for rulings?
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>>155302428
>being this new
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>>155302403
Oh fuck, there has to be some way to get Hino-Kagutsuchi and Dark Law onto the field together.
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>>155302761
I really wonder what justification they'll make for this.
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>>155302715
Chemical Beasts
Not many people play then because
>Geminis
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>>155301845
By what
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>>155302715
Busted Bladers
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>>155302876
How does a Kaiju mirror match look like?
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>>155302801
Mask Change II on uuuh Tsukuyomi I guess?
>keep Dank Law on the field
>summon Hiko off URA or his own ritual
>bounce the monsters and banish at least 1 of them
Makes me feel on the edge
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>>155302715
cloudians
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>>155303251
C'mon, shun.
At least use your picture.
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>>155302876
Casual here. Is it even possible to word that in such a way that it doesn't contradict how Yugioh handles effects?

It reads like someone told Jewart to look at other card games and then he forgot how Yugioh's rules work.
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How do I Ghostrick?
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>>155302876
Absolute shithead when it comes to PSCT here, what's the issue with rulings here?
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>>155303189
Turns of doing nothing.
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soon we will get support and I will get the last laugh
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>>155303918
>kaiju with relenquished

damn thats a pretty good idea
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When mailday is LIT.
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>>155303801
Effects only activate if they can resolve under the gamestate at the time of activation. The "destroy kaiju, then summon another one to its controller's field" effect violates that rule and would -as written- be impossible to activate at all.
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>>155303776
Lockdown fields under Nights (with Neko or after resolving Doll) and Vanish to stop them outing it/Scare to disrupt plays/make people try to outgrind you when you keep plussing when your xyzs hit grave
Or lose because you didn't setup fast enough and they got through your handtraps.
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>>155303546
The summon needs to be a separate effect that triggers after the destroyed monster leaves the field.
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>>155304190
oh i see, so it should instead be something more along "Destroy kaiju, if you do summon another one" right?
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>>155304181
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>>155304547
S p i r i t m e t a b o i s
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What are the chances they put Yata to 1 to shill spirits?
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>>155304547
>all those pre-preps
I play a janky REDMD Turbo with Rituals, should i pick this up now or later when the hype dies down.
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>>155304261
>>155304282
I think the rules is more that you can't attempt to activates card/effect in which the current gamestate doesn't allow you to resolves all of that effect fully.

I don't think you can activates Metal effect if you have full S/T, even if you can target your other S/T to free it.
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>>155304645
pre prep is only like $2 dude
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>>155304547
>legacy
U kidding me?
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>>155304547
>nikitama 19 cents
>aratama 13 cents
>pre prep 95 cents
good """"""""""""investment""""""""""""" you fucking moron
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>>155305195
Not him, but do you not know what an investment is?
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>>155305025
>really cheap
>people will still want it
>might somehow be decent with new cards
Might as well.
>>155305195
>implying they won't go up once the shit drops
If anything I can just jew them at locals. I also needed the stuff for building it once it hits TCG.
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>>155305256
yes these common cards that are pocket change will certainly rise to huge amounts!
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>>155305338
>all investments are high risk, high return
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>>155304547
I don't know much about Spirits, is there one that summon itself to your opponent's field to use Legacy of Yata Garasu's effect?
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>>155303546
Julia said it works like how resue rabbit can be activated even if you control 3 other monsters. I guess thats justification.
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>>155305407
back in the day the idea was to use creature swap
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>>155305256
>>155305305
>>155305402
Remember to invest in those rescue hamsters and key beetles :))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>155305407
The new Espirit card targets a card, makes it a Spirit and makes it bounce during the EP https://ygorganization.com/more-rate-cards/
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>>155305338
Lol epic bro you tell em!
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>>155305407
He looked into the future and knew what the new one would do.
Alternatively, if spirits etc start to go up it might as well for people wanting to use against em
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>>155305436
>rescue rabbit can be activated even if you control 3 other monsters
You can?
Any link to official ruling for this?
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>>155305543
It's actually not an Espirit
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>>155306198
Oh you're right, neato.
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Now it's been a while since I've used Spirits, but they still bounce back to hand during EP even if they're in grave, right? As long as they were summoned properly that turn, it doesn't matter if they're still on field or not, right?
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>>155306350
If that was the case, Spirits wouldn't be the meme that they are.
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>>155306350
Wrong.
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Post your sekrit tech:

Malefic cyber end dragon has to be one of the most op cards, splash it in almost any deck and it works. Its a free 4000 beater.
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>>155306479
>Old wording Wicked Worm Beast
Every fucking time.
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>>155306745
>This card is returned to your hand at the end of your turn.
holy fuck, they had no idea what they were doing.
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>>155304547
I really hope Espirits don't end up being good enough to be meta and you wasted all that money.
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>>155306643
Now I feel like watching Commando.

Also, Arnold archetype when?
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>>155306723
Siding in Buster blader against Blue-eyes
Cloak and Dagger call X boss monster that isn't Kozmo's
Abyssal Designator
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>>155306350
Holy fuck.
>Pre-prep for Hill + Ritual
>Tribute 2 nikitama
>Bounce 3, draw 2
>End phase add hiko and double Niki back to hand
Errata when?
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>>155306995
>all that money
The only thing that was really worth anything was Pre-Prep, and that's still a decent trade value at locals. Everything else was a few dollars.
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>>155306723
Running Ophion in Phantom Knights
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>>155306995
>wasted money
Guy barely spent any money on that pile.
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someone post the yugiohcardmaker discord
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>>155306723
x3 Magical Cylinder
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>>155306723
it's a thrasher that's searchable by benten
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>>155267382
anyone?
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>>155308646
The downside is your opponent needs to control a monster.
But on the plus side, she's not a Nomi.
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>Tribute something for Kaiju
>Normal turtle spirit target Kaiju making it a spirit
>Yata to draw 2
>EP they both return to hand

MEMES
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>>155309003
thats some meme tek right there
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>>155308646
that would be a level 4 cydra, not a thrasher
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>>155306723
Soul Absorption. A little extra LP never hurts, and it's useful with Kozmos, Cupidity, and banish cards in general out there.
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>>155309191
>main deck full of deskbot
>only one spell "deskbot base"
>flip magical merchant
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>>155309003
>>
Both players are equally skilled and lucky, who wins the most out of 20 matches; Blue-Eyes vs ABC?
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>>155307004
I wouldn't hold out too much
you might end up
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>>155309003
delet this
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>>155308808
means you don't need to run 2-3 thrashers so you see them turn 1 but will clog mid to late game. only need 1 bc she's searchable.
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>>155309609
123
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Question.
Can I activates Genex Ally Birdman effect to special summon itself from my hand by returning face-up Vanity's Fiend from my field to my hand?
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>>155310169
youstopthat.jpeg
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>>155310169
no, because vanity's doesn't allow you to special you baka
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>>155310169
kaiju S/T are the only time that works, fuccboi
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>>155310169
You cannot begin to summon Birdman if you can't ss

>>155310264
Because Julia says so
Hail KoA
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>>155309609
Blue eyes wins 15 of 20 times.
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>>155309609
How expensive will ABC be if I make the deck from scratch?
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>>155310254
>>155310260
>>155310264
Another questions, then.
Can I activates Spell Strider effect from my hand if I have Qliphort Scout in one of my scale, and opponent have Metalfoes Volflame in one of his scale?

Qliphort Scout says
>You cannot special summon monsters, except "Qli" monsters.
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>>155310538
With meme soldier?
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>>155310589
No because again: you can't special summon
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>>155310613
Without him. I'm thinking $600 is enough for an all holo'd out ABC deck.
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>>155310721
I think it's not that expensive, meme soldier it's the most expensive shit just rank 4 shit tsukuyomi, za lightning, gear x, etc
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>>155310712
But Spell Strider banish Qliphort Scout, which then frees the Special Summons restriction.
The Special summon restriction even happens "after" Qliphort Scout is banished.
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>asking retarded questions in order to keep the thread alive

We need an argument and we need it fucking NOW
I'll start
Level Eater deserved to be banned in OCG and Synchrofags who whine about it are cancerous. Also 5D's was objectively the worst Yugioh series, even worse than Arc-V is currently
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>>155310721
$600? That seems kinda high, seeing as a chunk of your deck comes from a structure deck.
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nah, lets go with this
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>>155310914
>But Spell Strider banish Qliphort Scout, which then frees the Special Summons restriction.
That's not how yugioh works.

if you can't do something, you can't even attempt to do it, even if the end result would allow you to do it. You have to be able to do it in the first place.
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>>155310902
Alright thanks. I see no Japanese players use the meme soldier hence why I'm not planning to use it
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>>155310932
Can you activates Metalfoes Pendulum's effect if you have Denko face-up in your field with no set S/T?
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>>155310914
If theres a cop saying
"don't speed as long as i am here"
You can't speed even if you drive over him
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>>155311045
I need the extra deck, side deck and expensive staples like pot of desires.
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>>155311070
But I can Ritual Summon even if I have 5 monster in my field.
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>>155310914
banishing is the cost to special summon strider. if you can't special summon you can't pay the cost.
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>>155311262
>banishing is the cost to special summon strider
Anon, banishing is part of the Spell Strider's effect.
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>>155310932
neh, gx was the worst. i really guess why the nips liked...
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>>155310260
>>155310331
But returning to hand is the cost of Birdman's effect.
I mean, you can use Rescue Rabbit even if you have 3 other monster, because Rescue Rabbit banish itself as the cost, right?
>>
actually I think subterror warrior should also fail to resolve like the knight of creation does when you have no target to start with, based on the rules of the game. but we can tell it works since koa wrote it to work only one way
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>>155311441
Even if it was a cost, you still can't attempt to summon it because of Scout anyway
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>>155293985
the hippo is a card
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>>155311441
well it doesn't really matter. as long as the effect involves special summoning you can't pay the cost.
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>>155254904
But anon I own that mat
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>>155302129

If you wanted to be a nigger, you could prob have Bahumut+Treatoad, assuming you don't already
>>
You can also use the new spirit to do meme things like bounce Manju or sonic bird back to hand to use their search effects again

I wonder if we'll ever get an XYZ that requires two spirits...
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>>155310357
Why?
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>>155312298
But how do you plan to summon both Manju and Kawanokami?
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>>155312298
a spirit xyz would be great as well, if it was a GGX it'd be amazing instead.
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>>155312591
Brilliant Fusion?
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>>155312272
I just wanna use a half-decent Charmer deck
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Question.
My opponent destroy my Fire Hand with Vanity's Fiend.
Can I special summon Ice Hand from my deck if I destroy his Vanity's Fiend?
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Someone explain the hype behind the new ritual spirit dude. Non-targeting bounce is great yea but the ritual cost seems like a steep thing to pay every summon, plus the ritual spell doesn't recycle

Is it being used to set up Hinokagutsuchi or some other bullshit?
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>>155312795
Anon, you know how the game works.
Trying to outsmart anons won't change the rules.
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>>155312845
the ritual gives tokens to pay back for the summon
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>>155312795
Stop being dumb.
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how do you get rid of the animated space background ygopro has by deafault
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>>155313157
Remove bg.ogv from the textures folder
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>>155312940
>>155313049
From Ice Hand ruling.
>if "Vanity's Emptiness" is targeted as the Spell/Trap Card to be destroyed by the effect of "Ice Hand", then "Special Summon 1 "Fire Hand" from your Deck." can be performed
So that means I can special summon Ice Hand if I destroy Vanity's Fiend?
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>>155312795
since it's a "you can" isn't it actually yes? like OE Absolute detach OEPD, negate attack, special OEPD
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>>155302129
Gagaga Shield isn't all that great in the deck. Even in casual play things don't do much targeting destruction, and it's a brick if you open too many non-Spellcasters anyway.

On that note, you are running WAY too many of the non-Jigobyte Familiar Retrains, and honestly 3 Jigo seems a bit much itself. Try 2/1/1 or 1/1/1.

Try using Dark Doriado and Risebell as pendulum scales. Dark Doriado will turn your FPs into solid beatsticks really fast (and with Unpossessed that's extra good), and Risebell gives you Rank 5 access as well as letting you make R4s with basic Charmers.

You can also utilize stuff like Scroll of Bewitchment to unbrick bum Charmers, as well as things like Magical Dimension and E-Con to apply good pressure. Summoner Monk is also a really good play to have and you should always run as many as possible.

Also, run Alchemic Magician. That shit is dope in Charmers, especially if you're running Monk (which you should).
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Best way to abuse rescue hamster ???
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>>155313479
yes. the destruction effect is considered to happen before the summon effect.
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If I control Koa'Ki Meiru Drago and my opponent has Interrupted Kaiju Slumber in their hand, and the only Kaiju in their deck are a Radian and a Gameciel, can my opponent activate Slumber?
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>>155313479
>since it's a "you can" isn't it actually yes?
Stop being retarded.
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>>155313750
So long as your opponent has two non-Mecha-Doragon Kaijus in their deck, yes.

Did y'all fail Critical Thinking or something?
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>>155313257
you could also just target a monster with fire hand since if a monster goes to the graveyard, vanity's emptiness does too
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>>155312995

I'd understand if you got those tokens at the start of your next turn or something, but leaving them out on the field like that is like an invitation for your opponent to fuck up their shit
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>>155313776
so it is a yes, like Absolute summoning a normal Odd-Eyes
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If we run out of time then where does it go? Is time even real, does anyone know?
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>>155313867
Congrats, you're wrong. I already knew the answer and you can't activate Slumber if one or both of the only Kaijus you can summon are Light or Dark.
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>>155313883
Except Vanity's destroying itself is an effect that activates in a new chain
>>
Why do fools fall in love?
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>>155314132
Because you have to be a fool to fall in love in the first place.
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>>155313890
That's why you use urgent ritual art as an interrupt if you can.
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>>155314038
But Slumber ignore what's on the field before it special summon Kaiju, BKSS.
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>>155314191
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>>155314038
Except even OCG rules that Slumber will resolve properly if a floodgate monster is on the board (unless it can't be destroyed by card effects). Since Koa'ki Meiru Drago CAN be destroyed by card effects, and you didn't specify that there was something making it so that it couldn't, I can successfully SS Radian and Gameciel with Slumber in both TCG and OCG regions.

You were saying?
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Anyone? Best way to play rescue hamster..? Igknights? Are ignights any good? Or do they get shut down hard by the meta
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>>155314461
It works great with Igknights and Key Beetle
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>>155314038
Slumber doesn't even check if there's another kaiju on the field before activating, no way would it check if it was passing some floodgate check of a monster it already destroyed. Vanity's would stop the SS since it destroys itself in a new chain.
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>>155314586
Key beetle?
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Okay, no memes here.
If I use Xyz Universe or Antitopian on The Lightning, (and some odd R4 for Universe), can I activate a RUM targeting the R8 I got off Universe or Antitopian or would The Lightning's condition that prevents it from being used as a Xyz mat for an Xyz Summon cockblock me?

Same as if I used Xyz Universe on Dark Matter/Cipher Blade and an R1 and then tired to RUM I dunno, the Dyson Sphere I got off that.
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>>155314461
Igknights have the problem of being good at shitting out full boards but then not actually having much to do afterward because their boss monsters are underwhelming and Xyz will rip an asshole through their resources. Rescue Hamster works pretty well with them, though.
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>>155314461
Pretty much Igknights and non-PePe builds of Performapals or Yuya.dek.

>Are Igknights any good
They're a decent engine.
>Or do they get shut down hard by the meta
Less "shut down" and more "so many resources and so few things to actually do with those resources". They're also stupid fragile. If your opponent chains MST to one of your scales, or Breakthrough Skills your RML, or responds to your Pendulum Summon with Bottemless, or does pretty much anything during your turn, you lose.
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>>155313247
thanks pham
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>>155314664
All RUMs say that they perform an Xyz Summon using the designated card as Xyz Material, so you cannot use The Lightning to RUM.

Some (but not all) RUMs will let you Rank-Up without targeting, and these can be used (as applicable) on stuff that can't be targeted. Dyson Sphere is usually too high a rank to be able to do this, though, as I'm fairly certain it's pretty much just the Raidraptor RUMs that let you Rank-Up without targeting.
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>>155314349
>>155314610
So what's stopping me from targeting my Vanity's Fiend with Magical Dimension, summon Dark Magician from my hand, then destroy opponent's face-down monster?
The sheer fact that Magical Dimension is not Interrupted Kaiju Slumber?
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What are some good generic cards that are really expensive to keep an eye out for when looking through singles at card shops?
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I want to use Star Seraphs cause they're broke as fuck (and for some reason still unlimited in the TCG). Problem is stick+chair are the only ones worth running, what are some decent monsters worth running with them?
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>>155314932
That doesn't answer my question at all but then the wiki solved it for me with the japanese text.
>このカードはX召喚の素材にできない。
Basically saying "This card cannot be used as material for an Xyz Summon."
I don't believer Xyz materials are ever treated as cards while attacked to an Xyz monster, so the condition Lightning, Dark Matter, etc. have wouldn't apply.

"Problem solving" card text my ass.
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>>155315237
Tellars
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>>155314932
But you didn't Xyz summon using The Lightning.
You Xyz summon with an Xyz monster that have The Lightning as Xyz material.
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>>155315237
Pendulums
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>>155313776
That actually makes me wonder, since there are actually 2 cards in total with simultaneous optional effects that read "and if you do, you can" my question is: would they stop the effect from resolving at all, or just stop you from executing the "you can" effect?
For instance, star seraph dildo lets you pop something and if you do, you can draw 1. If they have Protector of the Sanctuary I suspect you can't draw even if you choose to pop it, but can even you pop something or does it just fizzle?
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>>155315124
>The sheer fact that Magical Dimension isn't Slumber?
Pretty much.

The reason Slumber gets "special" treatment is that it has two effects that are non-simultaneous but not linked. To not be able to activate Slumber, you'd have to have "Cards/Monsters cannot be destroyed" AND "Monsters cannot be SS'd" simultaneously. The reason for this is because you'd have a situation where even if you can't SS, you can still activate Slumber for the board nuke effect. It's a less-than-optimal play, but there are situations where it could be made to play out in your favor.
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>>155314690
>opp sets 5 passes
>tfw topdecking Danko Sokka
>they call me a scrub because I use pendulums
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>>155315634
So if I only have Koa'ki Meiru monster face-up in my field, then resolves Diamond Core of Koa'ki Meiru grave's effect, I can still use Slumber even though opponent has no monster?
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>>155313601
Really? It seems weird to limit the monsters I have even further.

Something like this? I'm honestly not familiar with Pendulums or Rank 5s. I should probably use more of Risebell and Doriado, shouldn't I?
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>opponent makes Utopic Zexal
>lose
why is this stupid fucking card a thing
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>>155316586
To sell Kaijus.
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>>155315315

Oh wow, totally forgot about them. Why'd they fall out of existence, they had other plays besides Ptolemaeus right?
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>>155316379
Why are you running Empowerment just for the attack/defence boost? Especially alongside Secret Village. Also Chocolate Magician Girl seems like it'd be a good include
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>>155316762
>they had other plays besides Ptolemaeus right?
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>>155316849
Because I'm a retard and I like seeing bigger numbers, I'll take those out and swap Chocolate in.
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What does Pot of Greed do? Does it start a chain?
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>>155317178
>>155316849
Also, admittedly, I didn't know Empowerment existed until someone told me about it and suggested it and some monster that he literally never named here.
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>>155316329
Yes. The destruction effect says "as possible", which in this case would be 0, and the SS effect doesn't say you have to have destroyed any monsters to Special Summon it.

Activation Requirements for Slumber are:
>You have at least 2 Kaiju in your deck (neither of which is Mecha-Doragon)
>You can legally destroy monsters AND/OR You can legally Special Summon monsters to both sides of the board

Note that if your opponent's entire frontrow can't be destroyed (say, against Cardians with a live Lightshower out), you cannot successfully SS EITHER of the Kaiju from your deck, since there's no room on your opponent's side of the board and the card specifically states "1 per side".

>>155316379
Also drop Empowerment since it's only a minor boost anyway, and Village is your better play.

Village is also a risky move, but you're fairly trap-heavy so it's not as bad. You will still inevitably brick, though, so be ready for that.

>>155317347
Draw 2 cards.
Yes.
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>>155317347
Opponent have Gozen Match face-up in his field.
Can I use Kaiju Files to my lone Jizukiru in my field to summon Gameciel if I have Thunder King in my deck?
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>>155317720
That depends, did your summon Jinzo before the D/D/D player Wonder Xyz'd Kali Yuga?
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Will KONAMI screw people again this time by printing SHVI Blue-Eyes cards in this set?
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>>155318454
I bet $5 they put a crystal wing in
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>>155317678
So, whatever happens if I have Kristya face-up in my field, Machine Angel Ritual in my graveyard, and my opponent use Slumber?
Is it illegal play since Slumber won't destroy Kristya?
Or is it a legal play, with Kristya's destruction is substituted with Machine Angel Ritual, and then no Kaiju is summoned since Kristya is on the field?
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I want OCG players to start siding Invader of Darkness in HERO Frogs and D/D and Ultimeme decks just for the meme power of stopping Super Poly and Tit Twisters
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anyone have the Yugi vs Mai webm?
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>>155318390
But, anon, I have Dark Lady in my hand, so I can still summon Sliprider even though my opponent have Rivalry of the Warlords face-up in his field when I use Farmgirl's effect
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>>155318661

How in fuck would you summon him?
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>>155319038
Monster Reborn like the good ole days

meme power finds a way
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>>155318553
The latter. It's a legal play since it's optional for you to use Machine Angel Ritual's effect. Since Kristaya would still be on the field after that, Slumber can't SS two Kaijus.
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>>155318661
and I bet Magic Deflector would work too but it's not as memey
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>>155319204
>Slumber is "A, then B" effect
>B is mandatory after A
>A failed? lmao, B still goes off
>current state prohibit B? lmao, you can still activates it for A
>current state prohibit A? lmao, you can still activates it for B
10/10 design.
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>>155316379
Try something like this. This is the current build I'm working with right now. I'm trying to tinker with some options in the ED department, but the QPs also probably need some ratio adjustments depending on what you play against the most.

For ED, basically do this and then throw in whatever R3/R4/R5 monsters you like. Obviously R4 staples should be your priority, but you can do other stuff, too.

>>155319679
From a design perspective, it's fucking brilliant because it essentially lets you have two cards in a single deck slot. You get a Dark Hole AND a card that can SS shit onto the board? And the two effects aren't forcibly linked? What's not to like?

From a player standpoint, though, it's bullshit. For once this is actually pretty clever design from TCG.
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>>155320249
Forgot my image.
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top 3 pendulum monstah?
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I'm climbing.

I've had both an Effect Veiler and a Maxx "C" Solemn Notice'd today.
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What should I replace with Octo/One for One, /dng/?
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>>155316762
Triverr is pretty good, but it's kinda power creeped now with all the negation and "on your turn" effects.
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>>155320561
With which deck are you climbing?
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How many crystal gems do you run with brilliant fusion? I just have the one garnet+3 brilliant, and it seems I'm always drawing into it

Any more though and I feel like they'll just clog up my shit
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>>155320803
>crystal gems
i didnt know tumblr did yugioh
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>>155320803
1 garnet, usually. Some fuccbois run 2 garnet or 1 garnet and 1 Lazuli in stuff like Blue-Eyes.
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>>155320803
>crystal gems
kys
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>>155320764
Blue Galaxy.

Most people are using ABC or various Metalfoes decks. Mostly Ultimaya.
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>>155320905
Allegedly the writer for SU did YGO at some point so it's not far-fetched to think that we could come full circle.
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>>155320961
Blue eyes white dragon? with Galaxy eyes, son?
Deck list. please.
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>>155320249
Too bad it's still forcibly linked in a weird way.
You need to have valid targets in your deck to activates Slumber.
Rivalry and Gozen still prohibit the activation if you don't have valid targets in your deck.
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>>155320640
Cut a fucking wing you dumbass.
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>>155321443
>best card in the deck
>not running 3 of
U wot
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>>155320640
Mouse, is a shitty card in 8/10 duels.
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>>155321221
Featuring "Competitive Enough" Technology (TM)
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>>155320640
>xyz scum cards in a pure fusion master race deck
Delete this
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>>155315237
Cyber Angels make them searchable
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>>155320640
>mouse
>sheep
>no cat
>no rabbit
>only 1 owl
>xyz in extra
Try again
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>>155317374
Empowerment goes with Empowered Warriors for Rank 4 spam. Dragonox and Dragodies are the best ones. You can even use them as Pendulum scales on the off-chance you draw both, but even without both they have good Pendulum Effects.
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>>155320640
>Sheep
>1 Wing
>Mouse
All valid candidates. Also I highly recommend running a single Cat & Rabbit
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>>155322161
What goes best with Empowered Warriors?
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>>155322305
Opening wing and bear wins games, you can't afford to run less than 3.
I agree on cat and rabbit.
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>>155320640
Why is fusion reserve considered worth it to run despite being pink, but not chain material? That card could be so OP if combo'd with cat.
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>>155322548
UAs
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>haven't played since GX
>Made it a tradition whenever I go to to Walmart I buy one pack, with the hopes of getting enough cards of one archetype to make a deck

Aside from some shitty animal puns I haven't gotten anything good, but did they increase the odds of getting good stuff? I know each pack is guaranteed a super rare holo, but I've gotten like 5 "secret rares over a few months
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>>155322548
Honestly, anything. They're Level 4 DARK Warriors that you can Special Summon from the deck, almost any Rank 4 deck (or deck that needs Pendulum scales/tribute fodder) can use them.
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>>155323141
Are you looking for good as in powerful, or good as in money cards?
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>>155322548
Ninja.
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>>155323287
Could you post Empowered Ninjas, if you can?
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>>155322974
Because Fusion Reserve searches Bear. Pulling off Bear/Wings is an instant win.
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>>155323378
I think fusion 2-4 times using cards in the deck is even winnier.
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>>155323253
Isn't there a connection though? Good cards tend to be sought after so they'd be more pricy
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>>155321523
You're never going to use it more than twice. Cut it you fucking rabbi.
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>>155323362
Have a build that anon post long time ago.
I think he made some few adjustment after this, but I'm not sure.
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>>155323474
Because Chain Material banish the material?
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>>155323474
Did you maybe, I dunno, read Chain Material?
You only win on the turn you resolve Chain Material if you're playing the most inconsistent Blaze Fucker FTK, Dora Electrum FTK or just so happened to have the best possible setup for a DED OTK
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>>155323579
I'm probably never gonna solemn strike more than twice, I still run 3. I'm definitely not gonna use twin twisters more than twice, I still run 3. Do you believe that in order to run 3 of a card you need to be able to use it 3 times?
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>>155320561
>Reveal Blue-Eyes in hand
>Opponent quits

Holy shit, this is so easy it hurts. When do I enter good player territory?
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>>155323474
>Can't attack at all during the turn you use chain material, which is how fluffals otk

Anon, don't get excited about cards before reading them all the way. Maybe if Wolf were destruction immune.
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>>155323982
1000 or higher ranking is when players start to git gud.
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>>155323827
If you fill a deck with a draw engine, you end up with nothing to draw into but go ahead and cut your combo enablers like sheep for more fusion cards and easily disrupted draw power. Not sure why you ask for advice on a straight forward deck if you're just going piss and moan when people tell you to cut shit techs like that anti-kozmo fusion.
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>>155323982
>they went minus 3 for a cydra infinity that just gets walked over by alternative
I'm fully aware that alt would also just pop a Lightning or Tsukuyomi or basically any r4nk, but at least one of those would have gotten you some more mileage before dying and wouldn't have been as much of a net loss in the first place
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>>155324257
>not sure why you ask for advice
Do you believe that in order to reply to a post, you have to be the person said post replied to?
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Been thinking why do you guys run pot of desire?
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>>155324979
Because I'm a fucking retard who loves banishing two copies of my A-Assault Core only to draw into another pot of stupidity
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>>155324979
It makes me feel on the edge
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>>155324979
Because the game has become so stupidly fast that games end before the cards you banished would matter, anyhow. Games are only 5-6 turns max anymore.
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>>155324979
For that sweet "go +2, lose next turn" feeling
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>>155323982
I top 100 now.
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>>155324979
Sometimes I don't have Swirl or Lamia in my hand.
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>>155325090
>there are people who S T I L L thinking Desires is bad in ABC even though people have explained why that's retarded several times in these threads
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>>155325275
Wait... 100 people play ygopro?
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>TFW eyes of brick
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>>155325436
Just draw a soldier or wizard and that hand turns amazing.
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>>155325351
It's not bad in ABC, it's bad in everything.
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>>155325275
I played for a few hours yesterday and broke top 10 after retarded faggots here told me to just get higher and it'd get harder. It fucking doesn't. Most people don't play meta, and the ones that do are fucking awful netdeckers. I play ABC half the time and I didn't lose a single mirror match even when they got le ABC guy out before I did. YGOPRO players either suck balls or just fuck around with petdecks it seems.
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>>155324427
That's typically how conversations work. People tell you to fuck off otherwise. Fuck off, by the way.
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>>155325772
A little of both.
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If this were a slower, grindier format like HAT would Pot of Desires still be good?
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>>155326191
Obviously not. You don't wanna deck out in a format like that. It'd still see use, though. Probably people would use it more conservatively, though.
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>>155326191
No, but card of demise would be 1000x better.
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>>155326337
You're right, I'd kinda forgotten about demise. I guess we're doomed to have super expensive staple draw cards no matter what.
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>>155324979

Because gren maju is more than just a meme
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Was looking for a tech that can be special summoned as well as used for allure and found juragedo,a also found it nice as a suprise game ender

What do you guys think of this card?
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>>155327115
I think he's pretty dank and have tried to make him work once or twice since he has a nice variety of effects, but as r4nk material he's a little slow, and otherwise 1000LP doesn't matter much and he doesn't stand up to powercreep like The Lightning Baby with only 1000ATK boost
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If I crash Reactor dragon am I supposed to still get the backrow pop?
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>>155327625
It has to survive to pop, but since you crashed with no survivor you don't pop.
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forgive me padre for I have sinned
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>>155329606
yeah just wondering if percy is bugged
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Why aren't you siding this yet anon?
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>>155329714
Might as well play Dystopia while you're at it.
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>>155330113
because Dweller is a thing
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>>155329714
>no one for one
>no where arf thou
>no mystic piper
>no kinka byo
You're not sinning hard enough boy.
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>>155315634
Are there any generic floodgates that can stop Kaiju/Slumber? Like mask of restrict and vanity at the same time?
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>>155329714
where's your mop equip card?
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>>155330605
Rivalry and Gozen.
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>>155330136
Was about to cream my pants until I read the effect more carefully. If it only protects itself during battle, it's ass and I should just run Starduston

>>155330296
Didn't know about the first two, I still have much to learn senpai

>>155330804
Don't see what good it does?
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>>155330605
Kaiser Collosoh wait
fuck off and die Tewart
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>>155330605
If only this thing is level 2 instead.
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>>155330605
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>>155330605
:^)
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>>155331614
>not knowing one for one
how
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>>155332189
At least you can use shit like One For One and Where Arf Thou? to get it.
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>>155332859
But I can't Pendulum Summon it.
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>>155332995
So?
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>>155333047
I can't put him along with Amorphage Sloth, Kirin, Jowgen, and Gendo in one Pendulum Summon.
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>>155333235
>5 monsters in 1 pendulum summon
Mate, you trippin
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>>155247721
This is a Luna Light deck I bought of eBay.
Got it purely for shits and giggles at first, then I found out that a store a buddy of mine plays at became an "Official Tournament Store" and is hosting a tournament this Saturday.
Everyone that joins gets some shit
The top 8 get more shit
The top 4 get even more shit including invites to World Qualifiers
If I ran this, how likely am I to get my shit completely kicked in and curb stomped?

It's been doing pretty well thus far on YGOPro but I doubt that's been enough to even get a good idea.

tl;dl How shitty is this deck to use in the current tcg
also:
>41 card main deck
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Can she save Dark Magician or is it still dead?
Dark Synchro is pretty much kill with the banlist.
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>>155333497
Could you please remove 1 mst, looking at that deck hurts my soul.
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>>155333843
This is just want comes with it. I intended to remove one
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>>155333775
Nah, but we need more cards like her. The deck's currently lacking in power and relies too much on targeting removal atm.
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>>155333235

In the slim chance that you are being serious, fuck you for being the reason Strike is needed at 3
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>>155331614
>I should just run Starduston
>not Kuribohs
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>>155334629
TEACH ME HOW TO DO THIS
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>See some cards have been spoiled
>OH BOY
>Just a shitty draw engine with Legacy of Yata-Garasu + a shitty virus card that hardly hits anything relevant at all

meh
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What can you play with Artifacts nowadays?
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>>155334629

What the shit
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does anyone know if our Duel Links progress is going to be wiped? I know it's closed beta but I haven't seen any official word.
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>>155334850
You mean attacking with blue-eyes 48 times, or using kuribohrns effect 9 times?
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>>155335135
kuribohs
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>>155335119
Yeah they said it would be wiped
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>>155334629
What is going on? No for real, why all the attacking? I figured the person would play a card that allowed them to do something an equal amount of times to attacks made in the same turn.
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>>155334629
>resolving Zaborg first to fuel graveyard and destroy opponent's ED
>empty ED implies that Zaborg has resolves at least once before
Brutal.
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>>155335607
They can attack once for every blue-eyes monster in their grave due to beacon of white. Somehow they managed to get 48 blue-eyes monsters in their grave.
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>>155335607
Beacon of White, dude's got 47 Blue-Eyes in the grave.
That one quickplay from the movie would've been better in this case I think (you get one extra attack for every monster that your opponent special summons)
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>>155335796
>>155335949

So this was just made to be funny right? No one's gonna run that many BE and all that attacking amounted to nothing.

I'm just trying to assess whether this is some spicy new combo using Kuri monsters or a /dng/ joke/
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>>155336192
The entire deck built around getting as many attacks from beacon as possible, probably wasn't made to be funny. I guess it's just bad luck he ran into a guy who could summon infinite kuribohs.
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>>155336192
The Kuriboh combo is real, though.
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>>155336192
It might've been a 2v1 with 2 BE players.
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>>155336517
That's probably the only way it could even have happened, since I'm only counting 11 actual "Blue-Eyes" names.

>Vanilla
>Shining
>Malefic
>Alternative
>Toon
>DSoW
>Ultimate
>Neo-Ultimate
>Twin Burst
>Chaos MAX
>Spirit

3 of each would be 33, minus the one that's actually equipped and attacking, so 32 is the most a single player could manage.
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>>155333775
yfw your pic related makes it playable again
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>>155333924
play twin twisters, castel and diamond dire wolf
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somebody give me a good DM deck plz
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>>155247721
Tribe infecting virus shouldn't me on the banlist.
>but muh mermails
Fight me familia. Thread is way too slow.
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>>155334970
Cyber Angel Nasatya?
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>>155337632
This is just the stuff I'm getting from the deck that was sold on eBay, I'd have to buy those separately. I'm asking how it stands as is
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>>155322548
igknights
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>>155247721
>play ygo since childhood
>still no waifu
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>>155338503
what a sad existence
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>>155248446

You don't even know her fucking age. For all you know she could hundreds to thousands of years old, fucko.
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>>155336847
Thanks
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>>155333497
Remove MST and cattle call, add two twin twister and 3 fusion recovery.
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>>155337993
Speaking of Cyber Angels, how do I build a cyber angel deck?
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>>155339248
How do you play cyber angels?
How do you build a cyber angel deck?
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>>155339248
>>155339513
summon herald pass
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>>155339794
accurate
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>>155339513
Fuck if I know that's why I ask
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>>155339998
just adding to the question
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>>155339513
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>>155340265
is there any way to incorporate arc light into this?

summoning it back with the field would be sexy
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>>155340423
I mean, theoretically there's the main-deck Heralds but they're shit. You can run Gale Dogra for 2 searches at the cost of 6K LP, but you can't resummon it since it wasn't properly SSd.
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is it worth swapping out dakini for nas?
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>>155338980
Surprisingly enough, Cattle Call has saved my plays a few times. Mostly when I'd for for the Sheep/Rabbit combo and they'll Solemn Strike Rabbit, for whatever reason, letting Sheep return and fusing it with the now present Cat Dancer.
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>>155333843
>>155337632
>>155338980

Advice considered. This is what I'd like to end up having irl, Unfortunately, getting all that by Saturday might be an issue.
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If I were to host a /dng/ tournament, would you guys wanna do it?
I can make a bracket if you guys give your names on YGOPro.
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>>155340990
do you not own a dweller
and throw in metalfoes if you've got them
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>>155341040
someone should stream it.
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>>155340423
cyber petit angel+plaguespreader zombie?
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>>155341318
what about red resonator
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>>>/tg/49442286
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>>155341209
Sadly no, The only cards I do own were in relation to a Bujin deck I was once making.The only other rank 4s I actually own irl that could work is a third Tiger King, Bujintei Kagutsuchi, and two N103: Ragnazero
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>>155341216
I can stream it as well as host it if you like!
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Could someone please post the last harpy list that topped? I can't find it on the ygorganization site.
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>>155341040
I'd be down
sign me up as ASHY LARRY
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>>155341686
Harpies haven't topped in literal years. Here's my list.
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>>155341695
You're in.
Including myself, that's 2/8 minimum
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>>155341778
Thanks!
How come harpies aren't meta?
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>>155341864
Too slow, they can get a max of 2 XYZs out a turn, and their searching is during the EP.
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>>155341778
Why not incorporate the Speedroid engine in there? Totem Bird is a good monster to have.
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>>155341564
well then organising and having a list of people asisting is left
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>>155341960
It's ok, but it's not like other decks where the XYZ summoned directly contributes to the deck like making Danta in PKBA or Invoker in Dolches/UAs/etc.
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>>155341986
I guess we're just gonna wait until more people join.

So come on people, just gimme that ygopro name and we can have a small tournament.
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Any suggestions for a magician pendulum deck?
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>>155341686
Still ugly
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>>155247721
I am out of the loop. What decks are meta right now?
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>>155342467
Blue-eyes, metalfoes and ABCs when they come out.

I'll be playing metals because I hate nostalgia support.
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>>155342467
>Tier 1
Burning Abyss
Blue-Eyes
ABCs
Kozmos
>Tier 2
D/D/D
Metalfoes
Mermails (now and forever)
>Tier 3
Dark Synchro
I don't know anything else for Tier 3.
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>>155342682
Tier 3 is alway "everything else" since only tier 1 and 2 decks actually get tops.
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>>155342557
>>155342682
>ABC
By this, you mean the new dragon cannon cards from Kaiba?

>>155342682
>Dark Synchro
Dark-attribute synchro?
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>>155342682
>Metalfoes
>Tier 2

Maybe in the TCG you fucking idiot. This is why you need to separate the meta out so you don't end up looking like a jackass
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>>155342793
Yes to both questions.
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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Deck_Master_ability

Deck masters as a real mechanic when?
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>TFW keep bricking with blue-eyes

Is there any way to make them more consistent, or are they just inherently this way due to being made of level 8s and useless-when-alone level 1s?
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>>155341936
I get this but with all the bullshit they're able to pull (at least the ygopro AI) I don't see how they haven't gotten anything but better. They can SS like nobody's business and they have access to some of the most annoying XYZs in the game. Fuck Zerofyne, fuck Chidori, shit even the dragon can eat a baby ballsack.
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>>155342467
>OU
PKFire
ABC
Blue Eyes
Kozmo
OCG D/D/D

>BL
Frogs
???foes
Monarchs
Angel Heralds
Heroes

>UU
???ddolls
Magicians
Mermatlanteans
Kaiju variants
Trains
Aintshit Gear
Dark Magician
Synchro Masturbation
Majespecters

>BL2
SPYRAL
Buster Blader
Fluffals
Psyframes
Shiranui
Lunalights
Resonator Variants

>NU
Cardians
Igknights
Quantals
Subterrors
Odd Eyes variants
Red-Eyes
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>retards who ask for deck advice but then REFUSE to post their deck

Not even going to acknowledge your shitty post
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>>155342682
>Dark Synchro
That shit is fucking ded in OCG.
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>>155343052
>can SS like nobody's business
Not really. You best plays revolve around NSing Channeler/Dancer, so if they stop you're first NS/effect (mind you, Strike is at 3) they you're fucked. And again, they can get off a max of 2 XYZs a turn with most hands, which is just slow in this meta where you can get off 2-4 powerful monsters per turn, many of which float off of backrow/dodge targetting. Trust me, if Harpies were meta I'd be ecstatic, I've been playing them on/off for well over a year now. But they aren't.
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>keep opening bad with my Phantom Knight deck
Fuck you Percy
Yuto better shill something good in 124
In archetype Mathematician when
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>>155343052
Zerofyne and Chidori were annoying in their own time, but boy have they been power creeped. Good, but not good enough.
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>>155343221
>that shit is ded in a format none of us can play
Ok.
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>>155343297
If that anon is mentioning ABC then it must be clearly an OCG list, which it would still be wrong.
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>>155343247
As long as BA are good, phantom knights can never be.
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>>155343297
>>that shit is ded in a format none of us can play

And yet people keep posting tier lists that purposefully mix the TCG and OCG meta together because they're retarded
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>>155343397
Pkba > ba > pk
They need eachover
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>>155343381
Sorry, I play against ABCs so much on pro that I keep forgetting they're not released in Burfgerland.
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>>155343483
>he doesn't set his games to TCG only
Get out of here degenerate.
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>>155343218
Where are my fierce Melodious bitches. They're painted for the gods henty


Yas gawd

Why would you use ugly cards
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>>155343297
>>155343413
Not a problem with YGOPro.
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>>155343283
Is R4NK even good anymore save for the occassional Castel and Lightning?
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>>155343452
Fuck Dante's Downhill Baja Extreme Wheelchair Race
Give me my cute ghosts
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>>155343218
>ou
>bl
>uu
>bl2
>nu
Fucking what?
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>>155343626
Despite /dng/ constantly whining about it, no. The only deck that even plays Rank 4s heavily are ABCs and the Rank 4s are essentially carried by a Fusion
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>>155343218
I dont speak faggot, what does this mean?
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>>155343727
smogon shit
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>>155343626
The extra is still good, even if it lacks some non-targeting removal. It's just that there's no good R4 maindeck right now.
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>>155343218
>PKFire
What is this?
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>>155343643
lol so randum xd
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>>155343727
>>155343780

They're unofficial tier lists in Pokemon used by a site nobody follows anyone
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>>155343727
It's just Smogon shi--

just don't regard it. Read it as OU=Tier 1, BL= Almost Tier 1, UU=Tier 2, BL2=Almost Tier 2, NU=Decks you'll see but won't make it to meta.
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>>155343746
Generally the reason people whine about R4 is because of what it did to powercreeping the game overall, not its power currently.
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>>155343824
Wtf is a smogon?
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>>155343876
reddit name for burning abyss w/ phantom knights
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>>155343876
Phantom Knight Burning Abyss reddit name
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>>155343876
A dumb meme name used by Redditors who dickride Smash and probably wouldn't even know what Earthbound/Mother is. The actual official name of the deck is Phantom Abyss, but the official meme names for it are Dantes Downhill Baja Blast Wheelchair Race or Shin Megami Rank III: Nocturne feat. Dante from the Devil May Cry series
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>>155343452
Yes, which is why the better PK get, the more insane PKBA gets. They can't buff PK till BA are safely dead.
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>>155344083
>Shin Megami Rank III: Nocturne feat. Dante from the Devil May Cry series
I'm using this forever
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>>155344083
Or you could ignore all of those options and call it PKBA like a non-retard.
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>>155344127
Just put Dante to 1
It made the deck barely even rogue in the OCG
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>>155343989
Google you dumb bitch, why is it retarded questions hour again?
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>>155343584
>says the degenerate
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>>155344170
Except the official name of the deck is still Phantom Abyss. You can try and be cool as you want, but every name that isn't Phantom Abyss is a dumb meme name
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>>155344326
>implying the "official" name isn't also a dumb meme name
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>>155344326
>>155344083

Official? So Konami came up with it ?
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>>155344450
Yes, it's not just a dumb meme. it's a dumb Konami meme
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>>155344450
It's literally what they use on their blogsite when posting about tournaments
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>>155344569
I'm a little miffed you didn't say Konameme
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Are there relatively good decks focused on normal summoning, or does everything viable have to be able to shit out 3-5 monsters in a turn?
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>>155345006
Yosenju...?
Kind of does both of those things
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>>155341454
Why are magicucks so autistic and always spew the same "ygo should be more like mtg"?
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Anyone know how to fix this error? Tried to log into ygopro.it and it won't let me.
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How do I into rank 10s
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>>155345006
>3-5 mosnters is "shitting out"
Buddy, pal, friendo, compadre, amigo, comrade, you have no idea. If I only summon 3-5 monsters in a turn its because I'm holding back, or I drew bad.
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>>155345006

Wait until the cartoon features the Retro dimension where everything is stuck in 2003.

And it's Dragon is AxeDespairGeminiElf Classic Dragon
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The french were right.
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>>155333775
I guess we will see now that she's officially out.
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>>155345482
I-is that a fucking dragon ball Z card on there
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>>155345238
rest in pieces, sweet prince, level stealer you will be missed.
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>>155345627
Level eater is still legal though?
Has it been powercreeped?
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>>155345697
just banned in OCG
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>>155345697
Got hit in OCG
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>>155345759
>>155345767
And...?
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>>155345806
People assume it will get hit in the TCG too
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>>155345882
People always assume tcg will copy the ocg. People are normally wrong.
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/dng/ TAG DUEL
YGOPro
USA Server
TCG/OCG Allowed
TCG Banlist
16,000LP
Password: vidya
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I've been talking to a friend about getting back into the game and says that if im serious he can get me a deal for a cheap saga of the blue eyes structure and the Kaiba mega tin, if I say yes what would I be looking for in the mega tin packs
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>>155346062
Solemn strike is the best card in the whole thing, look out for that.
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>>155345996
Two more please!
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>>155345238
And Aintshit Gears don't give two shits about any of this.
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>>155346224
Why are they still making them?
Is Crowler still a character on the show?
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>>155346320
The regular grunts use ancient gears but to my knowledge Crowler isn't on the show. Yet.
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>>155346320
Crowler is not, all of academias soldiers use ancient gear decks.
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>>155346429
>>155346469

Oh cool.

I did find it that in the past every single character had a personalized deck as if they reach requested it be made by Pegasus while everyone else got stuck with generic Legend of Blue Eyes commons
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What current Meta deck today would bring with you 6 years into the past?
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>>155346224
The deck is designed to empty your opponents hand, not fill it.
Do they care about having to play with 2 cards?
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Kaijus a shit.
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>>155345996
>it's a "your partner brought fucking Monarchs to a tag duel" episode
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>>155346835
Madolche.

I wanna beat up kids with lolicakes
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New thread
>>155346664
>>155346664
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>>155346429
crowlers japanese va was in the show as a diffrent character.
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