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<Nihilum> - Alliance (Automute, Qlurf/Glurf, Infamy, Crabberson can invite)

>Info:
K2 Website: www.kronos-wow.com

>Addons:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7aZ9mOBWI5oMzQ1eFladEpXT1k&usp=sharing
>Client Download and Connection Guide:
http://pastebin.com/xscFnzaK
>Leveling Specs:
http://imgur.com/a/aNm8V
>Vanilla WoW Head:
http://db.vanillagaming.org/
>Kronos official DB:
https://vanilla-twinhead.twinstar.cz
>Pre-BiS:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17siOKDwgAq34RqCMtPUKYI_wE7yFai7FEtpSIIC7zJQ/pubhtml
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>>155245689
what in the world
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>>155245689
>when he succ it all out
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Who flagRSP here

Feels good to have a full name
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>>155245689
tfw it was all for naught
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reminder that mecher died for our sins
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What if you gotta poop during a raid real bad?
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nelves are cute!
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>>155247661

set up healbot, bind AutoHotKey to mousewheelup

go afk
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>>155247724
Yes they are.
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this thread SUCKS it SUCKS
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What happened to the last thread?
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Some random hunter just started whispering me about random shit he's doing, I'm confused
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>>155248619
it went over 750 posts
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We built some retail sniffers and Daribon has been poking around on the retail PTR (just about nobody is hanging around Outland/Northrend there, so no interference), and sniffing every waypoint, every spell, every speech entry, every bit of gossip text, every sound effect, etc. We built another parser that loads that sniffed data directly into our database, so with an absolute minimum of effort, we can just correctly update the mob stats to the correct levels and have a flawless TBC/WotLK/etc. experience with exact retail behavior for all quests, world events, right down to the random grumblings of guards as they patrol.
ATTENTION TO DETAIL CRESTFALL BEST SERVER
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>>155249718

>all data based on content no one will see forever, nor does anyone currently care about
>useless for the actual project at hand because of Cata revamp

who gives a shit
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Nihiliun discord DJ HERE
I'm feeling the fire again, Don't know when glurf will give me the channel again but have something on the house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjWdgTRd0UQ
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n-normies can one shot nef too!
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someone bully my bp please
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is warrior or shaman more fun for pvp?
whats it like?
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>>155256526
Shaman is just frost shock and win, warrior is lose unless you're 60 or if you're against a melee class who keeps attacking through retaliation
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>>155256526
Shaman. Elemental destroys faces and you can chase anyone down with Enhancement and slaughter them.

Warrior pvp is like banging your head against a keyboard unless you have a pocket healer or outgear them.
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>hes still playing on kronos
>hes still in a guild and raiding(overtuned gear undertuned raids, wouldnt hardly call that raiding) with "people" like this >>155254735

HAHA literally KILL YOURSELF
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>>155257663
tucker it's almost midnight!!
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>>155257663
And it's this post again
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>>155257663
>wouldnt hardly call that raiding
oh, okay
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>>155257105
>MMORPG
>implying you can outskill someone with superior gear
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What happened to the guy from the last thread? Is he leveling a male human warrior? Really? He's mine, back off.
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Looking for a husband I can marry ingame. Needs to be tall and have some muscles, also needs to be fun around.
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>>155253653
n-normies can get legendaries too!
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>>155261579
>welfaras

I lol'd!
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>>155261662
whatever ITS COOL OK
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Hmmmm...
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>Level a hunter on K2 because that seems to be where everyone is rolling
>Ask someone called Glurf for a guild invite to <Nihilum>
>Nobody says hi or anything
>Complete silence for 40 minutes until someone called Kasandra says something
>Immediately 3 or 4 people talking, asking how their day was, etc
>Someone mentions discord, I ask for an invite so I can talk to these people in voice
>Join the discord server, first thing I see is rule 34 pictures
>Whatever, I guess it's a 4chan guild
>More and more Sylvanas and Tyrande pictures being posted
>I don't say anything because I'm new and don't want to get on anyone's bad side
>This continues for at least an hour, nobody even talking. The same two people dumping lewd pictures without saying a word
>Finally join voice, they were arguing the whole time about who's waifu was better
>Ok I guess every 4chan guild has fags, nothing out of the ordinary here
>They start talking about chinese sex pillows and asking how to clean them without their mom's finding out
>Nope the fuck out of voice channel and go back to leveling in Duskwood
>Several people talking in chat now
>Who the fuck is Comfy?
>I wonder if this Puddi girl sounds cute
>Join voice channel with 8 people in it
>Chill for a bit without saying anything
>One really obvious voice changer keeps talking about how cute her nails look
>Some retarded faggot called Indi keeps complimenting her on them and how he bets they looked great
>Feel awkward, about to leave voice when Kasandra begins to talk
>DEEP ASS TRANNY VOICE
>HEYYYYYYYYY GUYS! WHAT'S EVERYONE DOING? ANYONE WANT TO CARRY MY MAGE THROUGH BRD? HEHHEHE ^_^
>3 or 4 guys immediately start shouting over each other, rushing to invite her to a group
>A different voice changer quietly asks where to level next but is drowned out by the tranny orbiters
>Leave Discord and immediately /gquit from <Nihilum>

4chan guilds, not even once.
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>>155264514
Fake, no one talks on voice.
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>>155249836
Outland and Northend have remained untouched since the end of the respective expansions.
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>>155270138
there was a squish

affected all mobs
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>>155270208
That's purely health and damage numbers though. Not scripting.
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>>155270465
lol
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>>155270508
Missing the issue. Health and damage are easily changed.
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>its a Tucker stays up past his bedtime and swears on the internet episode
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Why are Warriors so popular?
I want to play melee dps but too many warriors man.
I hate playing the popular class.
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>>155272712

you get lavished with attention even if you have no personality
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>>155273453
What does that even mean though

What is an alternative melee dps class I should play instead?
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>>155274060
ret paladin kek
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>>155274116
Hehe good one.
I want to be useful in a raid.
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>>155272712
because its vanilla
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>>155274412
What does this mean though?
Are they super good in Vanilla?
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>>155274586
Warriors scale the most out of any class when it comes to gear, they go from being bottom barrel shitters to walking gods of destruction with the right weapon+gear
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>>155276007

pretty much this

ever played a carry in dota?

that's the vanilla wow warrior experience
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>>155276160
I like playing support but healing makesa me nervous.

I am just going to roll lock.
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>>155272712
Most warriors don't even make it to 60
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>>155277243
So that skews the % on the pop?
Might as well tty it out.
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>>155277429
Yeah it skews the %, although it goes without saying that druid is the monster underplayed class and Warlock on alliance is underplayed. But honestly don't think they're s 20% of warriors on the server there's more rogues than warriors imo.
less of a drag to make it to 60
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poor Kasandra
drinking herself near comatose only to shitpost in discord for hours
every night

a true NEET
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>>155278475
I want to fuck Kasandra desu
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>>155278853
I want to fuck the ingame Kasandra, not the real one
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>>155278898
I wish I had a fuckable toon...
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>>155245689
>get to mograine
>server starts dcing
>come back with mograine dead and whitemane at half hp
i was healer
no dagger drop still
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WHICH ONE DO YOU FUCC?
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>>155279512
Its literally unplayable when it gets like this.

See you fucks later
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>>155279576
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>>155279576
Bottom left, obviously.
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>>155279576
bottom left
middle left
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>>155279684
You like 'em fierce?
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>>155279801
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>>155279905
>White

No thanks
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>>155279801
How is bottom left fierce?
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>>155279976
Left middle is fierce, anon.
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>>155280024
I like resting bitch faces
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>>155280090
Same
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reeeeeee
I'm just trying to play here, man
fucking ruskis
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Can't wait until Crestfall comes out and kills this fucking shit private server
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>>155280521
CRESTFALL WWU

TIMES IS UP KRONOKEKS
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>>155280521
>leveling up in vanilla again
How many people will even want to do this
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I shit you not I literally just decided to log in and play again after a month or so and the same exact shit is happening. I don't see how people can truck through it.

Welp, was kinda excited to play again too.
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>>155281042
>not a unique IP to this thread

>WOW I JUST DECIDED TO LOG IN AND WTF ITS AL LLAG WTF ???

u can go now crestfall shills
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>>155280521
>>155281042 here

I was thinking about rolling on crestfall but I already got a level 50 on k2 and don't really wanna do that again. Maybe if it becomes the new nost or something.

Guess I'm stuck waiting for blizzard to announce legacy.
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So guys, I haven't played since April - May. Took a hiatus.

Is Kronos 1 dead?? All I see are people promoting the K2 server.
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>>155281208
Whatever you want to believe, I don't care about crestfall or any other new private server in the end.
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>>155281302
This, why would anyone want to play on crestfall?
if they were playing kronos
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>>155281252
COW'D
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>people said that its easy to make friends in vanilla
>still have no friends

????
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is there a legion private server?
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>>155281252
Yes, all nost refugees went k2 for fresh start.
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>>155264514
Obviously fake. They would've been posting Monara too.
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>>155264514
Fake
They're would of been some left wing vs right wing debating going on if you were actually there.

Also ogrim doomhammer is the greatest military mind ever to wage war on azeroth and his only rival is blackhand the destroyer who he killed.
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wtb friends 500c
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Hi everyone Ituh here, just a reminder that I will be leading the horde guild on Crestfall with help from the /wpsg/ and /nosg/ greats of old.

"healsluts", "girls", and "ERP friendly" anons won't be tolerated so don't worry about falling into old pitfalls. Loot structure has not been decided other than it will not be LC to avoid gorrubt gore issues.
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>>155285906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3VHaijUFeI
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>>155285942
>horde
Ok, buddy. Your edgelord faction guild will once again be irrelevant.
Also good luck having vg guild while censoring people, might aswell invite normies and call guild <Entitled>
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>>155286032
Please befriend
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>>155285942
>Won't be tolerated
lmfao so you're gonna kick people? Can already tell this will be DOA.
>LC
So probably DKP bullshit for even more clique faggotry.
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sissyboi looking for boyfriend to play k2 with

I can heal you and send lewd pictures of myself while we level
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>>155286147
>censoring people
Healsluts are annoying as fuck why cant they just whisper potential faggots instead of shitting up gchat?

>>155286271
LC works if LC isn't corrupt
DKP works if Officers aren't corrupt
The loot distribution system isn't the root of the problem, its potential miss use it.
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>>155285942
ah yes, the famous successful Horde /vg/ vanilla legacy will live on

is Ragnaros finally going to be killed?

>"healsluts", "girls", and "ERP friendly" anons won't be tolerated
sadly these people are often among the best in these guilds because they're nolifers who play the game all day

I don't know what you're expecting
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>>155286147
>>155286271
Nihilum homosexuals on suicide watch
>p-please feed me gear through LC im a gir!
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>>155285942
who made you the boss?

I won't join a guild full of /wpsg/ NOOBS who stay in the fire
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Hi everyone Grud here, just a reminder that I will be leading the guild on Crestfall with help from /wpsg/ and /nosg/ greats of old

"healsluts", "girls", and "ERP friendly" anons won't be tolerated so don't worry about falling into old pitfalls. Loot structure has been decided (we webcam ourselves rolling a d20 dice)
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Anyone who thinks the LC is corrupt just work under auto, guy is a total bro when it comes to loot.
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>>155286434
When have you seen gchat shat up by "healsluts"?

Also

>under my rule, loot will be distributed well

Youre a naive retard who believes anonymous shitposting in the thread, doubt you have brain capacity to run a social/pug guild.
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>>155286581

t. Clique
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>>155286580
> Loot structure has been decided (we webcam ourselves rolling a d20 dice)
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>>155286623
>haha I'm a girl pls don't kick me xD

We'll all be better off without subhumans like that.
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friendly/threadly reminder that crestfall jews have said that they will be literally selling "gold" memberships to skip (probably artificial) login queues

let me get this straight?

>have a server capacity issue (again could be artificially imposed)
>use donations to create a backdoor for le epic "shekel" members

rather than

>just using donations to increase server capacity

wew really makes you think
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>>155285942
sexist as fuck
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>>155286416
I'll make a warrior tank to level with you, slut. Post your character's name.
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>>155286623
>When have you seen gchat shat up by "healsluts"?
We don't thankfully but if these fuckheads ever joined and tried I'd be happier knowing they'd be told to fuck off or whisper grud. censoring "ecks dee im a gril" players is totally fine imo.

>Youre a naive retard who believes anonymous shitposting in the thread, doubt you have brain capacity to run a social/pug guild.

Maybe you're the naive retard for thinking I wasn't shitposting, Maybe you're just a retard for thinking I was believed anyone, I just told you loot distribution systems aren't the issue the people in charge are. How you twisted that into me endorsing his guild I'l never fucking know. its probably because you're retarded desu
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Hi everyone Jaime here, just a reminder that I will be leading the horde guild on Crestfall with help from the /wpsg/ and /nosg/ greats of old.

"healsluts", "girls", and "ERP friendly" anons will be tolerated so don't worry about falling into the old we're serious pitfall. Loot structure will be clique counciled and my trans gf will have loot priority
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>>155286734
Crestfall devs even say on their shitty website that they have literally "only been working on the server for a few months".

Meanwhile Kronos 2 is rolling out ZG/AQ, paid character customization, a completely new revamped armory, logs, website, etc.

This is going to be a bloodbath.
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>>155286857
you already turned the entire thread on you, good job retard

have fun with /wpsg/, tucker and FF in your guild lol
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>>155286818
I can't play right now I'll be back to play in 8 hours
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>>155287006
Who do you think I am on this anonymous imageboard?
I didn't make the post about /wpsg/ you sperg.
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>>155286857
You seem to sensitive, use fewer insults if you don't want to look like a raging sperg.

Also after your defense it looks like you plan to have a guild just like Nihilum. So really makes me think.
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>>155287067
>>155287006

rip Ituh's guild
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>>155287094
>You seem to sensitive
>use fewer insults

I think the only one sensestive about insults is you desu, I'm in Nihilum and I'm not making a guild.
>>155287067
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>>155287021
Reply again when you're online, you filthy whore.
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>>155285942
<im not a robot> hoe many year ago was that?
time flies when youre a pathetic neet
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I would watch a documentary about Kasandra trying to fight her drinking problem. Isn't she from Poland? That would be some good shit, having to resist all this vodka while fighting with her parents because she's not keen on getting a job. She just wants to play on Kronos and shitpost in discord all day.

DVD/blu-ray hidden bonus scene: she's masturbating in front of the computer to her character idling on IF bridge with Nihilum members around, really horny from all the attention she's getting
there would also be a bonus scene of her making sexual advancements towards her dog after she got another piece of T2 and is just happy and drunk
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>he's still a member of nihilum
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>>155287424
If you'd have seen me naked you would call me THE member of Nihilum.
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>he's still playing on Kronos
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>>155287489
can confirm
Grud's member is special
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>he's still playing Vanilla wow
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>>155287617
Not Grud you dip.
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>>155287707
doesn't make my statement wrong
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>>155286734
crestfall is fucking hilarious

They know just what to tell these pathetic morons:

>Hey MC/BWL/ONY too easy? Yeah it's not because the game's been out 12 years it's not because you're good players, it's because EVERY OTHER PRIVATE SERVER EVER has scripted them wrong.

>Thhhhat's right! We alone at Crestfall WoW have the ONLY proper scripting of these encounters!


>What's That?

>Oh we won't overtune AQ and NAXX! That's ridiculous! They're hard on other private servers because the other private servers managed to script these far more difficult to script encounters perfectly!

now THAT really makes you think
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>>155287873
>he's still playing on Kronos
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>>155287873
I only play on kronos for the memes I'd miss you guys to much to leave for crestfall desu.
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>>155285942
based Ituh
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http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/25-frequently-asked-questions/

this servers a meme right? nobody could possibly read this and thing anything except for that this server is going to be another elysium...
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>>155287873
MaNGOS
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>>155288737
>50g respec cost
DoA
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>>155289089
>tfw when no one rolls hybrid/tank or healer because farming will be shit.
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>>155289530
Haha, just roll druid haha, trust me, you'll have fun!
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>>155288737
It's the end of summer already with no word on the beta
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>>155290217
what's wrong with druids?
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>>155291151
Farming gold with 50g respec resto druid is hell.
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>>155288737
>NO BATTLEGROUNDS AT RELEASE
>50g RESPEC
>A FEW MONTHS OF DEVELOPMENT
>MONTHS OF BETA "TESTS"
>PAY2PLAY
>QUEUES
>"OVERTUNED" RAIDS
>"HOBBY PROJECT"
>COSMETICS
>BLIZZLIKE CAPS ON POP
>EXPERIMENTAL TUNING OF RAID DIFFICULTY
>"ALOT OF THINGS DONT WORK"
>"WE DONT KNOW YET THE FULL EXTENT OF THE WORK"
>BACKPORTED EMULATOR THAT THEY'VE TINKERED WITH
>ALL PVP CONTENT GATED AND RELEASED BASED ON HONOR/RANK REWARD STRENGTH????
>LITERALLY 2 DEVS WITH LIVES JOBS AND WIVES
>"WE WILL NEVER BRING ON NEW DEVELOPERS"
>SELLING MOUNTS
>"YOUD NEED A TEAM OF 15-20 PEOPLE TO DO GO PATCH BY PATCH"
>AV IS UNSCRIPTED
>JUST(FUCKMYSHITUP) SCRIPTED MOB RESET
>BARRING CATASTROPHE BETA WILL COME OUT END OF THE SUMMER
>WERE REBUILDLING LOOT FROM SCRATCH!!
>WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY EVENT SCRIPTING
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I don't get how people think crestfall won't get shutdown, slavshit servers like Kronos, Valk, rebirth have be up because they are out of the blizzard jurisdiction, but one of the appeals of Crestfall will be that it will be run by Americans, and it was the Americans that gave up Nost

Can someone explain me why won't crestfall get shutdown?
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>>155291453
Q. Where will you host the server? Are you worried about Takedown requests?

A. Western Europe, but we will have international proxies you can connect to in order to keep latency down. We don't want to talk about it too much, but suffice to say you should be very happy with your ping to our realms. We aren't concerned about C&D orders. Blizzard has no legal authority to enforce their copyright outside the United States unless that country has a specific legal agreement allowing US corporations to do so. We just host in a country which doesn't have those agreements. We aren't even live yet and have already gotten C&D orders, so they go into the wastebasket with the rest of the trash.
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>>155291529
>A. Western Europe, but we will have international proxies you can connect to in order to keep latency down.

that's not how networking works
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>>155285372
God I love monora
not a slut, no no
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>>155281224
You'll regret not starting at launch, trust.
Think about what other class/race you wanna play and get yourself ready
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>>155291306
Only good thing there is the no battlegrounds
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>>155291290
a-are you not familiar w/ the jack-of-all-trades swiss army knife hybrid special forces fuck the prom queen and her mommy too (0/30/21) spec?

it does errything (and i mean everything) only marginally worse than a "specialized" spec, no respecs necessary :3

inb4 my guild finds out i dont respec for raids!
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>>155291529
Oh wow, they really have no idea what they're talking about
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>>155294279
>not respecing on kronos when it only costs 5g
nursa i love you but come on.
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>>155294454
>questioning nursa-sama
trash like you are to low to live in this world. die
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>it's a nursa alternating between using a tripcode and not using one episode
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>>155294938
actually I posted that
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The quality of /Krog/ has really declined this month. Did all of the decent posters go back to /wowg/?
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>>155295249
>45% of the posts were memeing about the clique and saying Nihilum is FINISHED
>20% of the posts saying go play Elysium or CRESTFALL WWU
>5% asking people why they aren't playing LEGOIN
>Remaining 30% is people avatar fagging
Literally the only things that change is there's less muh clique memes
and
>Nihilium can't even kill nef memes

Threads always been garbage its why we use discord.
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>>155295576
Three months ago I would have said this was one of the better /vg/ threads. In my opinion, /nosg/ was high quality and pretty funny. It seems that's been lost over time. Maybe I should move on too.
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What does Kasandra smell like?
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>>155295576
why are you posting this image
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>>155294279
btw that pic is a meme spec ive been using DONT USE IT SUCKS!! ur warned!

the spec i normally use is http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#0ZxGxsc0dxVxf0fo

>>155294454
lol you're probably right anon maybe ill respec from now on

>>155294938
>pic related
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>>155295848
Sweat, tears and broken dreams
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>>155295848
lots of alcohol and cum
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>>155295848
holy light, plate armor, alcohol and ...cum
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>>155295794
>Three months ago I would have said this was one of the better /vg/ threads.
You're subjective rating of threads is to arbitrary to care about, some generals enjoy shitposting and find it fun. most of /vg/ probably

> In my opinion, /nosg/ was high quality and pretty funny.
Some one who's nostalgic over old games being nostalgic over old threads wew the irony.
You aren't the first to say nosg is better the kronos you won't be the last, and anon we all should really move on from a 12 year old video game.

but if you wanted to improve the quality of the thread maybe start posting, quality posts otherwise you have no one to blame but yourself. did ogrim doomhammer bitch and moan about muh demons in the horde after he found out blackhand was cuck?

>>155296027
because people in this thread are easily misled
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All I want is a cocksock with big tits
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>there are people in this thread who are raiding in MOLTEN CORE in TWENTY SIXTEEN instead of the NEW RAID Emerald Nightmare
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>>155296287
hmu
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>>155296186
The shit posts were higher quality and more people were in on it. I can't keep it up by myself, and like I said it seems as though most of the memers have gone elsewhere.

Now instead of funny shit posts the thread really had devolved into unironic "I'm a girl ecks dee" tier garbage.
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>>155296406
Cup size?
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>>155296435
>unironic
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what the fuck is a healslut
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>>155296435
touché anon I completely misread you and I'm sorry, yes the shitposts have lowered it's pretty tragic in that regard, there's atleast 3 other guys I meme with while playing but looking at the thread now they might of left.
Maybe nihilium just got boring or legoin is as good as they say, but wowg moves to fast, only way to shitpost there is to be really edgy or try to trigger people who hate furrys.
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I kind of miss elysium shilling now that we are in the period of crestfall shilling
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Hi everyone Lndi here, just a reminder that I will be leading the horde guild on Crestfall with help from the /wpsg/ and /nosg/ greats of old.

"healsluts", "girls", and "ERP friendly" anons won't be tolerated so don't worry about falling into old pitfalls. Loot structure has not been decided other than it will not be LC to avoid gorrubt gore issues.
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>>155296643
33C
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>>155296956
Yeah, I'm used to slow moving threads anyway due to the boards I browse, so that isn't an issue. Slower paced threads usually lead to better discussion instead of just clear baiting and senseless shitposting for those precious (You)'s.

I don't know what's changed, but it feels like a gradual decline more than anything.
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>>155297404
(you)
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>>155297472
Don't worry anon. I've had my (((fair share)))
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>>155296919
A promiscuous female / sissy male that plays healers in MMOs and acts like a total slut for the tank.
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Nihilum discord D-J here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT0Xz3vOvbI

Feel like I'm getting through to glurf, might get the channel back soon. Get ready for the second coming.

here's a freebie
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>>155296919
A sissy crossdresser like me
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>>155297915
Can you just fuck off?
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>>155297404
I know what you mean, i you might be right legion might of caused some prominent memers to jumpship and play it, raids out in like a day so maybe they'll drop it and come back if legion is shit.

>>155297548
You're an artisan.
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>>155298151
Normally I'd say talk to me in the channel if you don't like the sound, but I haven't got the channel right now so level with me. What did you dislike?
You on the discord right now?
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>>155298350
same. playing legion till crestfall and shitposting here.
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>>155298194
To be fair, I'm playing Legion right now. It's not bad at all in my opinion. But /wowg/ is shit and I have more fun posting here.
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>>155298284
I just straight up don't like you. You keep pushing yourself here just like any other avatar fag. Might just have to add your signature to my filter list.
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>>155298454
>>155298535
I'm thinking about getting it myself to be honest, heard it was alt unfriendly from a lot of anons, just sort of waiting to see what people say about the raids.
And yeah wowg is pretty shitty, its really a different type of thread entirely.
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>>155298652
not him but you sound mad lol
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>>155298284
Hey Grud here.
Who are yoooou?????
??!?!?!
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>>155298728
The only alt unfriendly part is having to grind artifact power. But really, I find that if you just play the game you're getting more than enough. It can be a bit tricky to catch up with an off spec though.

Other than that, I'm really enjoying it.
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>>155298652
I'm sorry you think that friend, I really only ever wanted feedback on music to play, truth be told I probably could get away without the dj part, people rarely post music on here they'd probably know its me. might be a waste of time trying to filter me though, I don't really have a signature I even change the way I type dj sometimes I even misspell Nihilum quite often infact. and the freebie thing is sporadic, ashame we couldn't of been friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbGqVU7Fkwk

>>155298885
Come on grud lay off you didn't miss THAT many raids.
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>>155299059
Not that guy but AP and relics are your main goal, so it IS alt unfriendly. My demon hunter is level 108 right now, pvp season starting tomorrow, will be really fair fighting against people who have 3 golden traits while I have 1.
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>>155299267
Yeah, that's true. It's a shame really, especially since they made swapping specs in every other aspect so easy this expansion.
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... why the fuck is my Heavy Stone selling all the time?
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>>155299204
Feel free to post music or whatever garbage you want here, just don't try and become Mr. Avatarfag. Nihilum used to have a togethertube where people played music and shit when leveling.
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>>155299267
>DH
>crying about anything
Kek
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>>155299838
The way ore nodes spawn is screwy iron is harder to find than you'd think. I think it's something to do with old nodes not being able to despawn until mined or something.
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>>155299267
>Brazil Hunter
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what did she mean by this
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>>155300037

Huh. Well that was a nice compensation for staying around areas, making sure I mine everything so that I don't neglect my skills.
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>>155300001
>>155300080
>>>/wowg/
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>>155299928
>Garbage
Trying to avoid that honestly.

so just to clarify you only dislike must posts because I mention the discord? I'm not really fussed dropping that also I think you're making me out to be a bigger demon than I am mate, I post like once or twice (rarely 3) times a thread.

Yeah we don't have a musicbot like other discords do and most people usually make their own playlists and never stepped foot in the channel still i liked it, it was just a really jammy chill part of the discord, heard a lot of new bands and sounds from just requests.

I know you're not a big fan of the music but have this on the house.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNGqLeaiZm4
It's what I play when I'm looking for a dungeon in IF.
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>>155301891
I don't give a shit about you or your music. If I wanted to discover new music I would go looking for it. If I wanted to listen to music I would play an album from my collection.
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>>155302257
Yeash mate you have a bad day or something relax. you might enjoy it you might not.
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>>155287873
Have fun on this pathetic shipwreck
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>>155296065
wait, what the fuck is this image meant to prove?
nobody responded to the animu image, r u retarded?
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>>155302701
You got a problem with nursa, how haughty human garbage has become as of late.
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How do I make indi my boyfriend?
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>>155303192
he's mine back off
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>>155303192
Be a paladin
Suck up to him
Get him the epic arena chainmail
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How's tanking as a druid?
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>>155304728
grud is mine back off
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>>155304728
1-56 you are the king of single target threat
men will envy you
women will love you
other tanks will hate you

Then you become a healer

UNTILL NAXX
WHERE YOU BECOME KING OF THE HYBRID CLASSES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8UFnc85-xM

sweet pic btw
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>>155304728
fun
(PIC RELATED ME TANKING A DUNGEON TO GET A GUILDIE ONY ATTUNED(IGNORE THE CLIQUETALK))
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>when you camp someone just right
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>tfw want to play vanilla but the only people on k2 are angry euros who aren't pleasant to converse with and the raid times don't work for me

Ihope crestfall isn't a meme and brings back the big population
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>>155305103
>raidleader who already does FINE dps with daggers talking about skipping loot queue because he wants to respec

wew laddy
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correct me if I'm wrong, the fastest way from darn to SW
-boat to darkshore
-boat to menethil harbor
-walk to ironforge
-deeprun tram to stormwind
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>>155306148
/w Jaime, I'll hook you up with faster way.
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>>155306148
nope, not at all
>boat to darkshore
>boat to menethil
>boat to Dustwallow marsh
>walk up to ratchet
>boat to booty bay
>walk up to Stormwind
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>>155306148
Yes
Only thing faster would be asking a mage to make you a portal
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>>155306294
I don't converse w/ gnomes srry
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>>155306508
Suit yourself.
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is it true that scripting on K1 AQ is awful?
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>>155302257
Real nihilism discord dj here
this guy
>>155301891
>>155299204
>>155298284
isn't me

Here's a free b.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZHPOeOxQQ
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If I want to almost exclusively PvP, should I roll a shaman, warlock or mage? Never played either of those.
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When can we expect Crestfall to launch?
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>>155286580
Bullshit. You should invest into more dice before you start pretending to know what you're doing.
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>>155308823
I doubt Grud has ever played a tabletop game in his life
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>>155308763
next year
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>>155309017
Can you not? I play Shadowrun/Pathfinder all of the time with a group >:/
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>>155309376
>tfw you'll never run FATAL with erpmaster
feelsbadman
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>>155309376
you'l never play a table top with grub, fucking kill me now.
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>>155309376
Only messing with you buddy. You're my favourite Nihilum member,
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erping with grud rn
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>doing rhok delar demons
>Look for them for the entirety of the day
>Meanwhile rave about politics in discord chat with comfy and crew
>demon finally spawns
>2 dindu hunters show up
>We start killing each other and in the end i just log off because its getting nowhere

>Just spent 8 hours doing jack shit

How was your day , krog?
>>
>Fucking get your head out of the gutter you fucking failed attention whore that broke out of your containment board /lgbt/ comfy

COMFY BTFO

BASED FUCKING GRUD
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>>155312209
that's one of the coolest but also one of the worst quests in the fucking game. the fact that they despawn if anyone other than you does dmg to it makes it frustrating as hell to do on a pvp server
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What's a fair price for a prebis 60?
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>>155313094
About three fiddy
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He didn't fly so good
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>>155312331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUogZWhlyt0
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>>155313347
>watch the webm
pretty good
>read the spoiler
Quality post making /krog/ great again.
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>>155313347
Audibly keked.
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>>155313347
A LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A HIRED FAG
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What are some must-have addons?

Right now I have alfcast, atlasloot, cartographer.
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>>155307519
Fucking end yourself.
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>>155317853
bigwigs if you raid. if playing rogue or druid energywatch. ccwatch, omnicc, a lot of people like bagnon but I think it's ugly. personal preference.
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>>155319402
What's good for dot tracking?
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>>155319512
ccwatch tracks dots, buffs and stuff
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>>155307519
Yo this is not stuff that you should be spinning, come now lad honestly
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>>155313347
Who paid you to grab Dr. Holey?
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What's an addon that gives me a bar for my auto attacks and the targets auto attacks?
Also what's one that shows the vendor price of items on mouseover?
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I would watch a documentary about Kasandra trying to fight her drinking problem. Isn't she from Poland? That would be some good shit, having to resist all this vodka while fighting with her parents because she's not keen on getting a job. She just wants to play on Kronos and shitpost in discord all day.
One day her parents kick her out and to get by she starts working as a prostitute.

DVD/blu-ray hidden bonus scene: she's masturbating in front of the computer to her character idling on IF bridge with Nihilum members around, really horny from all the attention she's getting
there would also be a bonus scene of her making sexual advancements towards her dog after she got another piece of T2 and is just happy and drunk
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>>155319938
i use https://wow.curseforge com/addons/attack-bar-timer/files/13-4-06/ for the auto attack timer.

don't remember the name for the vendor price thing but i'll try and find it
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>>155319938
>>155320225
found it. https://wow.curseforge com/addons/sell-value/

don't use this but i think you need to actually go to a vendor with an item to put the price in the database so you can refer to it forever. so the first time you get a linen you won't know the vendor price until you go to a vendor. i dunno if there's a better addon for this but that's the one i know
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>>155318624
>>155319649
Just ignore that guy, I don't even like bon jovi and would never play it. They're not a bad band just not for me.
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>>155245689
I started playing WoW in BC.
Am i still gonna have fun with this?
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>>155321073
I don't care about the music. Just his posts stink of colossal faggotry, almost as bad as Jamie avatarfagging
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>>155321708
I also started with BC and I love this. If there were no flying mounts, BC could've been as good.
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>>155322005
Thanks a bunch, imma join then.
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>>155320553
You're the best family
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>>155321889
>I don't care about the music
wew lad

> his posts
You're being trolled my man that guy isn't me, He just a random anon trying to under your skin.
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Looking for a caring husband I can marry in the game
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>>155322503
>Tfw when you want a waifu
>tfw when you realize grud is a better man in everyway.
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>>155322628
Grud is not capable of being a good husband, he's a playboy
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>>155322503
whisper indi
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>>155322005
Right? bc is like 7/10 with a scale that has vanilla at 10 and legion at 1 but it could have been 11 on that scale if there wasn't flying... I think that it was the first major bad design decision that blizzard made as a company
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>>155323041
Indi is a manslut
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>>155323225
he takes care of his boy pussies
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>>155322005
What shoulders are those? it looks fantastic
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>>155323225
Just put out half a million gold for his thunderfury, then suck every other guild on the server cocks for mats. Then he might rejoin your guild.
>>
How exactly do character auctions work?
>can I buy a lvl 60 paladin for Kronos II, instead of leveling one up?
>what limitations are there?
>if I do buy one, can I change name/appearance?
>can I buy one on Kronos I, and transfer it to Kronos II?
>>
I'm getting shat on as a frost mage every time someone gets a drop on me in PvE. At what levels does it ever change? Also, is it true that mages lose to every other caster out there (+ hunters)?
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>>155323445
Shaman dungeon set Tier 0
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Does anybody have that leveling guide that starts at level 30?
>>
>>155323940
http://wow-pro.com/leveling_guides/jame039s_alliance_leveling_guide_chapter_i_3040
this?
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>>155324007
yeah that's it, thanks man!
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>warcraftmovies now
Fucking kill me lads
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Why are arteras and automute so shit? One stinky malaka and one dumb amerifat
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>>155324686
>hating the best country in the world

wew lad
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>>155324686
What more could you expect from Auto "brb gonna wipe all the rogues on nef" mute and Art "what is bubble" teras?
>>
>>155323706
Fuck making me consider troll shaman alt instead of mage
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>>155323619
the key to frost mage pvp is

1) know how to use your defense cooldowns offensively and your offensive cooldowns defensively
2) you have to know exactly when to blow your defensive cooldowns and the only way to know that is to have a supreme understanding of other classes
3) know when to polymorph to setup the kill or reset the fight or run

>>155304728
the guy who said you're the king of single target threat to 56 is spot on but i would go so far as to say that you're actually the king of single target threat up until like AQ if properly specced

the problem with druids is that all they can stack for mitigation is dodge and armor so everytime they get crit it's a crisis for healers to pull them back up
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>>155302701
4chan X puts a dotted red line next to my posts and a solid red line next to replies. are you ok?
>>
>>155326597
mocky asks automute what?
>>
>mocky asks automute for a favor
>he refuses
Why is this fat piece of shit allowed to exist Holy shit if only meerkatz was here to save us from this mess.....
>>
>>155326859
WHATS THE FAVOUR MOCKY!?
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>>155326907
[3:12 PM] Mocky/Mocky: @unfair test
[3:12 PM] Mocky/Mocky: @unfair#2777 test
[3:12 PM] Mocky/Mocky: This is VERY important auto wake up
[3:13 PM] unfair: yes?
[3:13 PM] unfair: @Mocky/Mocky
[3:14 PM] Mocky/Mocky: Have you installed Uber eats 8v)
[3:14 PM] unfair: no
[3:14 PM] Mocky/Mocky: Great
[3:14 PM] unfair: no
[3:14 PM] Mocky/Mocky: Install it and use this code
[3:14 PM] unfair: im not doing your recruit ment
[3:14 PM] unfair: thing
[3:14 PM] unfair: mocky
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>>155326859
Wtf I hate automute now
>>
>>155326859
This is so fucking disgusting every day we have to put up with his mistakes, I am tired and I know others are, several core raid members and me are already planning guild quit and make an actual non corrupted guild with a real loot distribution system, remember this is not a sudden outburst of rebelry this is an organized movement, we don't have to put up with automute's incompetence
>>
>>155326859
Is this how we are repaid for putting so much time into this guild? I can't believe it, we should have listened to snoipah
>>
am i a fuck up if i buy wow gold for this private server?
>>
>mute Grud on discord
>chat instantly becomes bearable
>>
>>155327389
Holy shit, this is a next-level pun.
>>
>>155326859
>auto asks you for 550g saying he would pay you back in a few days
>ask him for the money
>he starts complaining about the expenses that come with being a tank and refuses to pay
>ask him again a few days later
>he literally threatens to guild kick me if I don't stop asking for my money
I don't know what to do anymore
>>
>>155326859
Why is he even guild leading, he should have stepped down along time ago to let someone actually capable to lead
>>
I have never had a friend in an MMO
>>
People under the age of 25 shouldn't be allowed to express a political opinion.
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Hi everyone automute here, just a reminder I will be leading the alliance guild on Crestfall with help from the /krog/ and /wowg/ greats of old.

"healsluts", "girls", and "ERP friendly" anons will be forced so don't worry about not falling into old boipucci. Loot structure has been decided it will be LC to avoid complicated labor intensive dkp issues.
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>>155328359
>crestfall

Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Hi everyone Infamy here, just a reminder I will be leading the horde guild on Crestfall with help from anyone that doesn't have asperger syndrome.

Everything will be allowed because outlawing anything defeats the purpose of a 4chan guild, I'm not your mother. Loot structure will be +1 with the exception of me taking all the loot I want.
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Everyone hello Kasandra here, just reminder will be of leading Alliance Crestfall guild. With helpful from the nihilum greats of gold.

...

...Kasandra is typing...

...

"arteras", "grud" and "comfy" anons won't be tolerate so worry not of their bullying. Loot structure has been decided we give most loot to most heals yes.
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Hi everyone literally who here, just a reminder I will be leading the horde guild on Crestfall with help from anyone that will lend me money to be the first one on making the guild.

I'll bend over backwards to allow anything you want as long as you give me a shot at relevance and loot will be distributed by a council of which I will not be part of made out of the people that suc up to me the most
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>>155329962
genius
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>>155329962
>the broken english

kek, nailed kas perfectly
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>>155330010
thanks mocky
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>Earwen getting mad about the nihilum pug and it hasnt even happened yet
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What class should I alt (main is a mage): warrior or hunter?
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>>155335426
hunter. get king bangalash and chase down people on epic mounts
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>>155334223
>indi making mc pug to hoard more gold
>get called out
>raid instantly renamed to 'nihilum pug'
it really makes you think
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I want to faceFUCK nursa
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>>>>/qa/686198
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>>155313347
>Pauses above the drop and looks around like it's from Looney Toons

Probably your best webm yet.
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who is online right now and can invite me to nihilum, ill start a new character
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>>155341672
I am
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>>155341701
and you are? name plz ill whisper you
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Crestfall horde guild discord hype

https://discord.gg/D8g4GT9

join if you want to roll horde on crestfail
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>>155341672
me
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>>155341867
:(
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tucker come back
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>>155341828
the beta hasnt even come out why are you making a discord already
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indi come back please :c

>>155341975
HYPE
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>>155245689
>tell some kid on trade he shouldn't try to rip people off
>he gets mad and says something else
>call him butthurt in trade chat
>psts me this

i want to know his train of thought
i need to dissect his brain
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Who are the people that stand out in Nihilum? Like,I don't mean skill, but the people everyone knows and recognizes?

I want to know so I can be one of the cool kids when I join.
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>>155346163
Smogbeard, Risa, and Night are the cutest members of Nihilum. If you want to join the Clique, hang out with them.
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Flashu please unblock me!

I didn't mean to offend you!
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Kek
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>>155347361
huh really makes you think
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>>155347361
>Tucker is the prime demographic for Trump

explains a lot about him desu
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>>155347573
>>155347679
Guess #ImWithHer now
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>>155347679
about tucker or trump?
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>>155347749
Tucker
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I tried tanking deadmines at level 18, I had trouble keeping aggro on all the little miners running about so I tried to keep mostly the big humans aggroed on me 90% successfully, I'd like to know is that me being shit or limitations of bear mode at my level. We didn't finish the whole dungeon, one of our dps kept pulling gilnid and instakilling our healer so then two dps instaleft after the second wipe and then we gave up.
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>>155350418
wait until you get hunters multishotting instantly~
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>>155347679
>>155347573
>>155347361
pic related thx

>>155350418
>mark mobs for cc(use all cc at your party's disposal)
>pre HoT yourself (this gives healing aggro)
>pull carefully(v. important)
>roar+swipe immediately
>tab thru targets and maul where you're losing
>threat, taunt on cd
>enrage if you need the rage

later on you get bash/charge/and an aoe taunt

you're a hybrid tank that excels at single target. if you're dps is so dumpster that they cant' respect and adjust to that, then you should just /ignore or remove them and move on with your life/dungeon
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>>155351463
oh and i forgot to mention, the same thing applies to healing as a druid, large, fast heals are just something we aren't built to do and certain 5 man fights can really challenge a fresh 60 druid healer if his tank is also undergeared

people have really high expectations of us despite calling us the worst class in the game

get used to it.
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>>155351463
I pretty much did that, didn't think of the healing aggro thing though, I'll do that from now on
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how long would it take me to get AB exalted without premading?
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>>155353532
years
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whats a better race for rogue orc or ud ?
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>>155299838
>Iron is hard to find
If only there was a zone with literally all of its iron ore nodes in one easy five minute loop, oh wait there is
:^)
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>wake up
>I'm still alive
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>>155355596
hi Grud
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>>155353976
pve orc, pvp ud

go with whatever looks coolest
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>>155327295
>tfw snoipah was right, and he's now in a well functioning raiding guild and collecting loot like mad.

Life is suffering.
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>>155347361
>Tucker doesn't know he had to be 21 to vote

Maybe in 6 years kid
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>>155357391
t. snoipah
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>>155354174

>Iron is hard to find

How in the hell did you find that sentence in my post? I wasn't complaining about Iron being rare as I'm almost at 250 mining, I was just curious why a mid level reagent that I thought worthless sells within half an hour of putting it on AH.
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>>155357391
t. Phaseroll
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>>155353976
Troll for pve
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>>155359689

People need heavy stone for iron grenades.
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>>155361896

Now that's a good answer.
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>>155362068
Thanks
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>>155362547

Don't take credit for what others do, it's rude.
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>>155354174
>He thinks he can beat the ching chong farmers
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Tailoring for a warlock for Robe of the Void and the eventual Bloodvine set.

What other profession should I take?
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>>155344749
what's wrong with that? i was literally selling vendor water on hellground in the AH.
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>>155351463
>2016
>people falling for it
>it
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>>155364292
Y-you too.
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can someone confirm or deny that grud actually erp?
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>>155367742
I can both confirm it and deny it
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Bump from page 9
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>>155369746
if grud is getting a trip i'm officially dropping mine
>inb4 he starts posting and faux-samefagging as me again
t. nursa

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zthMCiuIQvU

nihilum dj can u even dig this?
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>>155370009
No it's the other way around you pretend to be me. You're basically me during nosg desu
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>>155370090
i dont give a queef about u u sad lil man
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>>155370276
Woah calm down. You never act civil like that snoipah sperg we could've been friends.
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>>155285372

gonna need a source on this fag
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This druid hateful relationship is cute.
Probably ends up with amazing hate erp.
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>>155365343
i don't even care about that lol he just called me an sjw because i said he's dumb for trying to sell that and then i called him butthurt
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>>155370009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dcjIGbcwvE

I can dig it
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>Theres a million warriors on this server
>All the healer paladins need tank gear
>All the tanks need dps gear
>Switch to caster suddenly no tanks to be fucking found
wew is this a new circle of hell or something?
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how much money does pick locking make?
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Reminder that tripfags aren't allowed in nihilum
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>>155374008
Really good low level to earn for auction gear+weapon trainers.
Gets enough for mount at level 40, but doesnt scale well so not THAT great at 60.
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>>155373819
Vanilla itemization is the one thing I hate about vanilla the most. They were really just throwing shit at the wall.
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>>155375004
This a thousand times.
>3 int
>4 strength
>cloth gloves

Blizzard why would you even?
Or the entire fang set from wailing caverns giving druid bonuses but the agility is so good rouges and hunters will grab them.
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>>155375210
agility is like druids main stat though
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>>155375210
Don't forget Shaman.
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>>155375471
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=6473

Feral druids main stat but it gives you balance set bonuses.
It's really hard to tell what they wanted you to do with them.
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>>155375587
hybrid class, hybrid gear
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>>155373819
why do you keep posting my images
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>>155375471
>how to spot a non-druid
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>>155375728
Yeah but we know that's dumb because there isn't a hybrid talent tree, and instead in makes you lean towards things and stats.

But I give you that when blizzard were designing items, some joker probably said exactly that.
>hybrid class, hybrid gear
Shaman or paladin would of been better off with a hybrid gear set than druids who are spell locked in feral forms.
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>>155375761
Hyacarr I'm sorry this is the first I've ever posted though, I'll stop or rather I don't have anymore anyway.
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>>155375761
>Wahhh why are you avatar fagging as me??? It's my attention! MINE!

kys
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>>155375986
it's okay, just don't post anymore images of me (hyacarr) without my written permission
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>>155376254
what?
that image is from discord
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>>155376254
t. Nursa
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>>155376748
nursa is fucking fantastic you mongoloid and would never stoop so low as give you any of you an iota of attention.
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>>155376975
Baited for this exact response desu
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>>155377247
oh? you're an odd one, if you were so keen to hear the gospel about the great nursa you could of just felt inspired and written it out yourself.
Oh well they say some sinners only learn through repentance.
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>>155377402
You're more obnoxious than FF during his Elysium shilling, if anything these sorts of posts just turn me off Nursa and his one autistic fan even more
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>>155377391
>mfw crestfall releases
>its actually good
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>>155377459
>baits
>complains
You might truly be the saddest wretch I've ever wasted time one. I'd give you advice on how to improve yourself, but I'm pretty sure you've already been told to kill yourself countless times and are to lethargic to do so.
If you don't want me to post, don't get in nursa's way simple, write it down if you have trouble remembering.
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>>155377459
>his
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>>155377723
>>155377636
>"""women""" type like this on the internet: >>155286734
>stutter typing
>muh jews
>trump memes
>bitching about reddit

Yes, that's totally a """female""" anons, (You)'re not gullible orbiters at all!
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>>155377636
>falling for le "baited for this exact responce" meme
>crying over it
it's like a double bait
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Nihilum raid break workout music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imG1MyMipi8&index=31&list=PLyIFQr1wryPJ-yUyeBcansxX093B9ug4y
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>>155377912
>>155378089
You realize you're both baiting each other right?
Any one who posts anime reaction images in rows shouldn't be taken seriously.
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>>155377912
The garbage is trying to spew inane logic at me that's irrelevant, are you trying to impress me?
Will you show me a drawing you did next?

>>155378089
A pity you can't see the irony in that post, but I doubt the word irony has much mean to you anyway. Probably something you tell your friends when you're watching robot chicken I bet.
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>>155378176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m8qJbEY6lo

>not listening to the streets
and people wonder why they get loot.
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>>155378361
>Provide examples of Nursa acting like a dude ITT
"Hey that's not the response I wanted! Stop with your inane logic y-you idiot!"
>Calling you out on being a beta orbiter for """women""" online
"U-uhhhh, will you show me your drawings?"

Pathetic, stop forcing yourself. You tranny lovers are pitifully easy to defeat in verbal imageboard combat, lol.
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>>155378654
> easy to defeat in verbal imageboard combat
I think this speaks for itself really, I was going to go on a tirade explaining why you're an idoit but if you post stuff like that its self evident.

just to clear things up though,
I've never gendered nursa
Nursa has never replied to one of my posts

For me to doing anything I do for the reasons you suggest could be nothing more than, a very desperate mans attempts of trying to get under someones skin. pretty tragic.
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>>155378985
>me to doing anything I do for the reasons you suggest could be nothing more than, a very desperate mans attempts

is this a haiku
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You guys still giving attention to these disgusting attention whores? You're no better than the beta orbiters on most "girl" twitch streams. Who on earth would wanna join a guild with this many mentally ill people? t. Snoipah
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>tfw just want to get to 60 so i can start pvp and raiding
>tfw paladin leveling is slow as fuck
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How can you guys play this, I just dinged 20 and questing is so mind numbingly boring, except maybe the 10% of the time something cool happens and you team up with some people. Farming some mobs for a quest item with a seemingly 1% drop rate is terrible, the zones are barely coherent in their direction to each other, If I didn't have questie and another mothload of addons I would be totally lost. Also not bashing vanilla here but the server personally, some simple bugs just ruin the game, the fact that you can jump underwater, how mobs sometimes climb 90 degree inclined objects like standing on the side of a tree and how gryphons will appear to you to be travelling on the ground randomly. I can see how vanilla is more addicting that current WoW, I'm a bit addicted to this server right now, but it's also leagues more frustrating and, since being a private server, is inherently buggy and cheap feeling in many aspects.
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>>155379172
It could be haiku's don't have specific structures.
looks like a shit post though,
>>155378654
and so does that one

and wow hey there's just a lot of these right now.

>>155379237
oh look another.
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>>155379438
>questing is so mind numbingly boring
Maybe mmo's aren't for you.

>the zones are barely coherent in their direction to each other
> If I didn't have questie
Strange complaint you know where to go but will complain about coherency anyway, questie has tricked you, zones give you quest to go to level appropriate areas, cities will give you quest to go to level appropriate zones, you're meant to explore the world.

>bugs
honestly retail vanilla bugs were way worst.

also
VANILLA IS FUCKING SHIT
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OFFICIAL NIHILUM SKILL TIERS

S tier

Enemy
Grud
Longview
Mavaqt

A tier

Arteras
Indi
Kasandra
Bossnova
Iminl
Jaedung
Infamy
Glurf
Jaime
Murder
Dindumuffin
Manlet
Turin
Phaseroll
Madti
Zintos

Everyone else tier

Everyone else
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>>155379449
No honestly tell me dude, if you're not mentally ill why do you care so much about some noname druid on a a fucking private vanilla wow server so much? Like what's with the autistic amounts of attention and "NURSA IS CUTE & BEST" posting on the past 5 or more threads? Back in the day I used to play on Kungen's server and no one was this autistic towards him even. Sure a couple of people would always go inspect him at towns etc but your autism knows no bounds. Hope you get to hit that Nursa boipucci though you desperate disgusting faggot. I hope future generations will document and study the autism found on /krog/ and /terag/
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>>155379987
this desu
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>>155379987
>>155380072
you guys really want to know why someone would only reply to anti-nursa posts and never contact her in game or reply to nursa in the thread.

I think he does it for you's
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>>155379987
>comparing nursa to literally who?
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>>155380480
>getting blown the fuck out so hard that you can only reply with a five word post and animu reaction image
embarrassing, i've known better and far more dedicated orbiters
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>>155380619
eh? you blind, I don't know who you're kungen is and don't care if you orbited him on your old private server, nursa is better that's simple.
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>>155380731
STOP
POSTING
CHINESE
CARTOON
REACTION
IMAGES
WHEN
REPLYING
TO
SOMEONE
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>>155380731
this is about you, not kungen, sorry nerd
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guys I can't decide between a mage or a shadowpriest pls help.

Do shadowpriests have a more fun pve rotation?
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>>155380842
You brought him up, where are your parents why is this confused child talking nonsense.

>>155380832
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>>155380932
>shadowpriests pve
sorry to tell you this, but shadowpriests are forwned upon normally people will want you to heal.
and there's only one spots for a shadow priest in a raid and you won't get it unless your names bossnova and you can deepthroat.

Their raid bosses in pvp though.
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>>155380932
>Do shadowpriests have a more fun pve rotation?I believe they do mine blasts in between mind flaying? So yeah, mages only throw frost bolts and that's it.
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>>155381001
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>>155381001
kys dumb orbiter
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>>155381303
sounds like you got btfo you ran out of things to say. well you were mildly amusing for a while.
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>>155381001
>>155380842
>>155380731
You do realize you're talking to multiple people right? This is my 2nd post in the thread today. Get help friend.
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>>155381417
Make this your last post kid, you aren't prepared for these waters just learn your place and don't say anything bad about nursa.
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>>155381384
Hahahaha le smug animay cartoon lady xdd
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Does finding groups get better at 60?
No one wants to do rfk so I can't do my warrior quest, feelsbadman.
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>>155381668
Rfk is boring as fuck, most people will do dungeons as long as they are fungeons.
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>>155381505
It's fun to laugh at people like you though. As for Nursa I've nothing really special to say, just your shittier than normal druid with crap hotkeys and fuck all for macros. Good thing it's easy to get a raid spot as a druid since it's the least played class in vanilla. I swear somebody is putting pure liquid autism into the emerald dream or something, all the druid avatar posters so far are insufferable. Atleast finalflash was "skilled" in abusing engineering and ganking people, way more entertaining than this shit.
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>>155370882
You can find everything on rule34
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>>155381807
>It's fun to laugh at people like you though.
You sound pretty insecure so I wont have ago at you for that, I suggest talking to someone about it though.

For someone whose got nothing to say you sound pretty jealous.
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>>155377912
>>155378654

Do you live under a fucking rock?

Nursa openly claims to be a guy to anyone who will listen.
But I'm pretty sure that Nursa is a girl, and so are a few others.
Hear me out, I'm really not delusional and I don't care one way or the other if its's a he or she.

>1 month ago..
I ran BRD arenas with Nursa and Nuras's DOTA friend.
Nursa's DOTA friend was super flirty with Nursa.
I say "Wow you guys are really gay for each other".
Nursa types XD in party chat.
Nursa's friend instantly whispers "Don't tell anyone, but Nursa is a girl."

Make of that whatever you will but Nursa vehemently claims to be a male, so I'm not sure what your point is.
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>>155382048
holy shit you're more autistic than I thought
jump in front of a train
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Why aren't you guys doing Emerald Nightmare?
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>>155377402
Could "have" you mong
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>>155382142
Im only lvl 107
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>>155382176
read it you dip its could've
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>>155382127
that's not me that's literally an anon trying to tell you how misguided you are. I've never even called nursa a girl, all you're suggesting is that if she was one you'd be trying to fuck her, probably why nursa hides nursa's gender. its from you
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>>155382048
if nursa is transgender im going to fucking kill mysel;f
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>>155382546
>>155382613
>this autism
bur agol los goibon uden lo
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>>155379921
only Grud would list himself as anything but everyone else tier

nice try Grud
>>
Ignoring all the rampant shitposting going on, how do you kikes make money?
I'm poor every time I try to learn skills.
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>>155382142
but i did everything but the last boss tonight with my guild
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who do I whisper for an invite to the guild?
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>>155382984
This, poor fag for life.
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>>155383186
is it any good? Thinking about buying.
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>>155383389
if you're asking that. deep down you know the answer.
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>>155383463
so its shit?
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>>155383389
the fights were pretty fun (healing) but i think it's always more fun just because of the laughs on discord

it was pretty easy though, only wiped twice while doing 6 bosses for the first time
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>>155383509
Fun levelling, stuff to do at max level. I heard the new raid was swell as well.

Not sure about PVP though
>>
How much hit do fury warriors need for the abilities to not miss? 9%? 8%?
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>>155379921

CUM GUZZLING SLUT tier

Kasandra
Comfy
Zintos

SUCK YOUR DICK FOR LOOT tier

Longview
Babymetal
Mocky


PURE MAIDENS tier

Murder
Phaseroll
Madti
Valkyri
Puddi

NEGHOLE POZ tier

Automute
Glurf

MANSLUT tier

Jaime
Indi
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>>155383302
there is no horde guild
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>>155384010
oh, guess i'l be back when crestfall is out.
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>>155384218
Better safe then sorry
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>>155384218
there wont be any horde cf guild either
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>>155379921
im flattered, thanks
>>155383725
i should be listed under "SUCK YOUR DICK FOR NO LOOT tier" desu
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>>155384394
is there something wrong with vanilla horde?
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>>155384523

The playerbase is children.
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>>155384593
are you being serious?
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>>155384646
he's not wrong

literally every horde player is named

Dildoswaggings
<she told me she was level eighteen XD!>

horde attracts cancer, edgelords, and kids

alliance is fucking comfort, maturity, honor, and master races
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>>155384823
this tbqhwu friend.

King's Honor, Friend.
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REMINDER THAT NOT ONE <NIHILUM> """GIRL""" HAS PROVEN TO ACTUALLY BE FEMALE
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>>155384408
Character panel and map addon name?
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>>155385253
Comfy has :3
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>>155385259
Skinner is the character panel addon
map addon is simpleminimap~ something, but it doesn't fucking work for me.
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>>155385259
skinner and simpleminimap, can upload if you have trouble finding them
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>>155385435
yeah. simple minimap never works for me and just causes trouble.
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>>155287021
Where is this little slut? I want to bully your boipuss NOW.
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>>155382416
No you read it you dip it says "could of" fucking mongs I swear
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>>155372697
lmao
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Embedding a moonkin druid with paladin healers -- worth the raid slot?
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>>155388384
probably not
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>>155385435
>>155385496
here is a simple demonstration
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>>155384823
Last time I checked, that was alliance. Nihilum genuinely has underage people in it and is full of ERP obsessed tranny loving faggots.
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>>155388696
I must have an old version. theres only slash commands available.
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Im unironically a sissy bottom, who should I date in nihilum?
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>>155389487
/simpleminimap gui enabled
im running v2.0000-3
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>>155389769
makes me think
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>>155388897
>>155389554
Exhibit A
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>mfw Thunderfury just dropped
Is that horde first?
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I'm a straight male, which biological female (if there are any) in <Nihilum> do I date?
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What's a good UI addon? Those gryphons are starting to annoy the shit out of me.
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>>155390242
>faction first
who cares tbqh, indi won the game.
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Cute guys tier:
Thorig
Grud
Infamy
Jaime

Cute Girls tier:
Phaseroll
Valkyri
Murder
Longview
Matdi

Fuckboy tier:
Glurf
Comfy
Automute
Uristmcmug
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>>155392804
I can't wait until you get put in a gas chamber
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>>155390349
hamish
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>>155390883
lunaunitframes r the bes knes :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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If there were only three races for each faction it should be this, speaking from a historical perspective

Alliance:
Human
High Elf
Dwarf

Horde:
Orc
Ogre
Troll

So where the fuck are my ogres and elves? As it stood at the end of WC3, undead and night elves would've likely never wanted to join their respective factions.
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>>155394825
weren't gnomes around before dwarfs? cause wasn't it a gnome who released the statues in uldaman that turned into dwarfs?
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>>155394825
Ogres are too dumb to be PCs and by the end of TFT there are no high elves after the sunwell is corrupted and Karl drags them all to outland
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>>155395353
Yes, by historically I mean "with reference to the warcraft series" so basically weighting the decisions made in wc2 and 3 higher than the many retcons of wow
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>>155395569
>ogres
I don't think that its debilitating, I mean they're better magic users than orcs so I think that counts for a lot on the intelligence scale
>elves
Main force of them fucked up true, but then again so was the main force humans after the third war. They were clearly still scattered throughout the Eastern kingdoms. If anything, there are far more of them than gnomes, who really have very little right to be a playable race in comparison to elves.
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>>>155394825
>there are no high elves after the sunwell is corrupted and Karl drags them all to outland

There are still high elves around
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One other thing to consider is that if gnomes are playable, then their horde equivalent, goblins should be playable.
And don't give me that whole "goblins are neutral" crap. That's a retcon
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>>155384408
Why does if look so dead
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>>155388897
It's both. Horde attracts the edgemasters while alliance attracts the literal retards.
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>>155397314
retards > edgemasters
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>>155397314
In my experience horde is fine. Alliance attracts the mentally troubled attention whores, just look at nihilum for fuck sake.
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>>155399171
Name atleast one alliance attentionwhore, I dare you motherfucker.
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>>155397314
Prefer horde because until TBC there isn't much of the "hehe erp with me ^.^ :333333"
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>>155399692
ERP with me RIGHT NOW
on the bridge
waiting
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>>155399171
>Alliance attracts the mentally troubled attention whores

Yes, let's forget Ogtucker and Finalflash for a second.


People like Nursa can die in fire, though. He's not Nihilum, so really makes me think.
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>>155399424
And the worst fucking one replies. Drop dead you annoying prick.

>>155400181
Finalflash has played both factions. Tucker is indefensible though.

Nursa is exactly the kind of person I'm talking about. Most nihilum members are like that too. Grud, all of the rogues, Comfy, Kasandra, Babymetal to name a few
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>>155400580
jaime is great though i like him
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>>155400580
only a tiny fraction of the posts as Kasandra are actually genuine.
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>>155400832
He's a worthless subhuman rodent.


>>155400917
The same goes for a bunch of other nihilum members. But that in itself is part of the problem. It's this disgusting infatuation with anyone who plays a female character and it really goes to extremes. The entire behaviour/culture around it has pretty much ensured I will never play alliance again.
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The worst one, drop dead you annoying prick, Swiitch.
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>>155400832
Thanks, here, have a rare Grud
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>>155401529
Thank you for bullying me, please keep it up
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>>155400580

I'm almost insulted.

t. glurf
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>>155401592
rare Grud
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>>155399764
Saw you ERPing face to face on the bridge last night and laughed
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>>155401706
not so rare Kasandra
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>>155401706
no THIS is a rare grud
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>>155401803
I wasn't online last night.
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What is the point of playing this?

Its just vanilla wow? Vanilla IMO was garbage and now you are doing it for what reason? Since its not official you are literally just wasting your time.

I know I may sound like a jackass but it really just boggles my mind why anyone would want to play this. Is it just 4chan or is this a public vanilla server?
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>>155400181
>Nursa
You think I wouldn't notice you fucking pipsqueak watch yourself.

>>155400580
Nursa is fantastic you faggot, Nursa is very chill.
jamie and grud are fine aswell don't hold a candle to nursa though, why is it so bad these people who are actually playing the game post in this slow general.
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>>155401858
fuck off, you better be glad we pugged you that one day and got you about 5 piece of tier 1 since we had no druids online
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>>155402168
Your opinions sucks. Is that what you wanted to hear?
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>>155402374
No I just wanted some answers to my question

I know its dumb but playing WoW officially on blizzards servers as atleast some justifications. The only justification to play this is out of enjoyment, but how much enjoyment can you get from this?

Im not trying to shitpost honestly. just want to hear why.
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>>155402168
>why would anyone want to play a game they like and god forbid have fun!?

Go back to /wowg/ and stay there.
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>>155402562
have you maybe considered that the game used to be more enjoyable?
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>>155402168
lets get this over with

>What is the point of playing this?
Fun
>Its just vanilla wow?
Yes
> Vanilla IMO was garbage and now you are doing it for what reason?
That's fine don't play, try legoin instead. also fun.
>Since its not official you are literally just wasting your time.
Playing video games is pretty much a waste of time if you don't think having fun is important or relevant, but you really thought that you'd be working right now so I don't know what your getting at.

>I know I may sound like a jackass but it really just boggles my mind why anyone would want to play this.
You do, don't feel so left out I don't know why people play dota but hey they do, almost as if people had different tastes to mine crazy.

>Is it just 4chan or is this a public vanilla server?
Public
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>>155402328
Heh yeah that was pretty good. Didn't your guild disband like a week later when that druid stole your gbank though?
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>>155402328
>implying i'm Grud
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>>155402831
yeah but then that druid quit and we reformed, but i stopped playing for a while and joined another guild when i came back
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>>155402562
Doing something just because it's official is literally wasting your time, especially since that official thing is 10 times worse than vanilla.
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>>155402168
Vanilla WoW was garbage but the breakthrough in MMORPG design the world has been unable to surpass for twelve years running.

Playing Vanilla in contrast to its later expansions is a deliberate choice to avoid the defined hub-and-spoke model of quest design. The lack of a dungeon finder means the game isn't a glorified chat room. No cross-realm features means you play with the same people. Vanilla is about community more than any other version of WoW and the only way to recapture that experience is to play the original.
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>>155402562
I PERSONALLY didn't enjoy this game so HOW can ANYONE ELSE enjoy it?
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>>155403928
Thank you for the one honest response that wasn't just
>"durr fuck your shit opinion dood"

This is completely reasonable. I have played alot of MMOs but never WoW until just two months ago. I am loving it so far but the one thing that is horrible is the lack of community and general standoffishness of the average player.

I play MMOs like the secret world and FFX14 and I can go up to 95% of players to talk and interact with them and they will communicate back. But I play WoW and say hi to a stranger and the majority of the time they will completely ignore you and wont even help with a mob you may be struggling to solo. The majority of players are just big babies.

So for that reason I can see why you play it. But honestly I prefer to be playing on the official server so that my progress is saved and whatever I earn can be turned into profits if I so desire. Also the updated models and environments are so sexy compared to horrible and ugly maps like the plague lands or the burning steppes and other drab plain vanilla shit.
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>>155405106
Someone invited me to a group when I was farming for a mob drop and i pretended like i was afk because I was too embarrased
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>>155405106
Vanilla graphics are better than the flashy glowy retail shit
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>>155405106
>Thank you for the one honest response that wasn't just
>"durr fuck your shit opinion dood"

Everyone gave you an honest response you're just to much of baby to deal with it.
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>>155405286
Do you have social anxiety?

Why do people with social anxiety play MMOs?
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>>155405724
>Why do people with social anxiety play MMOs?
Because they aren't invited to parties?
Because they can pretend to be someone they're not
Was that a serious question?
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>>155405574
No you are wrong

Literally every other response was from some asswipe that got offended from what I said originally and replied with some passive aggressive meme response
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>>155405724
No, I didnt want to be mean and decline his invite since wuest drops from mobs have a retarded low percent in vanilla and only one person per mob can get it
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>>155405907
>passive aggressive meme response

You're actually delusional,
>>155402374
Honest
>>155402698
Honest
>>155402691
Honest
>>155403740
Honest
>>155404658
Honest

>>155402596
Dismissed you as a troll because you talked like an arrogant idiot.

You knew this even but didn't think to rewrite your post to sound more humble and curious. instead you write to be condescending. To put it shortly you're a fucking idiot and >>155402596 was right you really don't deserve the courtesy that one anon is giving you.
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>>155405907
Maybe they were in contrast to your post you fucking mongoloid? Look at your posts shitting on something you've never even played, do you not realize how fucking retarded you look?
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>>155406354
Nice autism friend

Really not surprised you spend countless hours playing a 15 year old dead game
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>>155406527
whatever you just got btfo really hard, now fuck off to /wowg/
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>>155406383
>do you not realize how fucking retarded you look?
>On an anonymous imageboard

The beauty of places like this is you can say whatever the fuck you want without fear of embarrassment. Get over yourself kid.
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>>155406674
That was not the point of my post, but you keep being retarded
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Would anyone mind giving me some paladin advice?
I'm leveling, almost 21st. I went for consecrate first thing, 5 in int, 5 in the no pushback, and 1 in consecration. The no pushback is great (and will be better when i get conc aura?) but consecrate is underwhelming but maybe I'm bad.
In anyone's opinion, would love some input on talents and gear primarily for surviving wpvp while leveling. I know I'll be mainly holy at 60, just hate losing fights i can win when i'm attacked while questing. Are points in ret smarter (keeping int gear for dungeons), or going down prot to get improved freedom and shorter stun cd?
My engineering is at 101, i'll be getting it to iron grenades asap depending on how fast i can mine.

I know that's a lot of stupid questions, but hopeful anyone might have some input. I don't mind losing but hate having no chance.
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>>155406614
>>155406826
>If I tell him he got BTFO then surely it will be true

You have been a passive agressive meme spouting asshat from the moment I stepped into this thread. You are the living breathing example or a overgrown temperamental man baby loser.

Guarantee you have spend the last 10 years playing WoW for 8 hours a day and then complain about it being a shit game. You are the entitled little anti social morons that ruin online social communities.

You will never be welcomed back to real WoW so stay in this cancer please and thank you.
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>>155406972
>this much damage control
Maybe you are embarrassed after all?
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>>155406972
You know writing all of that doesn't change the fact you were btfo, it just makes it look like it really got to you.
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>tfw nobody in Nihilum ever wishes you a good night
:(
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>>155407146
NOT ANYMORE

Good night!
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>>155407053
>>155407074
>Get BTFO
>haha damage control xD!!!!

I rest my case
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any update on crestfall or should i give up and play here?
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>>155407302
You don't have case just fuck off to /wowg/ you're embarrassing yourself.
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>>155406890
if you're doing pvp constantly then getting the cd reductions is nice i guess. don't really need it with the engineering trinkets you can afford to get since you don't need to buy a mount. going down ret is probably the best option since you can get more right click dmg, more movement speed, and a sleep for pvp. i'm not sure if consecrate is bugged on kronos like it was on nost so that might be why it's underwhelming though
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>>155407398
I am the one who actually wrote in English and made well thought out points of discussion, all you did was spout memes with a temperamental attitude from the start.

I know your type is usually quite delusional but there needs to be a point where you just accept it anon.
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>>155407248
Doesn't count in the thread
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>>155407146
Just for you
>>
/krog/ class rankings

Best rogue: Jaime
Best priest: valkyri
Best warrior: automute
Best mage: mavaqt
Best hunter: n/a
Best warlock: murder
Best paladin: kasandra
Best druid: n/a
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>>155407595
>I am the one who actually wrote in English and made well thought out points of discussion
Jesus, man you need seriously help if you think the elementary school sperg out you posted was any of that.
Feel free to be denial as long as you want I don't care.
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>>155407646
There was once a good druid in the guild and his name was F____f____.
>>
Best all-around player, skilled in the ways on seduction: Blinku
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>>155407646
Kek
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>>155406890
I just hit 41 this morning. I am leveling Holy (http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sVxudgotZVf0tbb) to minimize downtime and enable healing through dungeons.

I have a bag full of my healing gear and all I do is autoattack with seal of the crusader up. In World PvP your options are die quickly, die slowly, or bubblehearth.
>>
>scaring away newfags
Based /krog/
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>>155407646
Longview or Matdi
Yes
Furies don't show up, Alx and Earwen are better
Mava is just the least bad, he's also shit at dispels
Jaedung is better, shit attendance
Yes but the others are terrible, so not that hard to be the best
Trademuda
>>
poor indi...
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>>155408449
>Longview

t. Longview
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>>155406890
First things first uther the lightbringer is a second rate punk, This nigga here in the pic is Tirion Fordring, the most balla ass paladin to ever swing a hammer.

That being said you wont win world pvp as holy or prot, you need to be ret and then you need good gear and even then, you're better of jumping people defending against attacks is a losing battle.
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>>155407909
>blinku is offline on discord

Someone else posted this.
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>>155408639
nah, the guy's good
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>>155408678
My reasoning was having more freedom uptime, as i imagine I'd be mainly dying to wizards. I could be wrong tho.
My "plan" was to 11 for consecrate (might have been dumb but i like the pushback resistance before it), 5 in the shield thing in prot since devo isn't worth it, and shield will help vs rogues and down to the imp freedom, then ret down to command at least.
But again like I said, i could be totally high and maybe it's not worth it to worry about, maybe going ret to quest faster is smarter and not worry about dickass wizards putting black undead babies in my butt.
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>>155408080
I thought about just pure holy mainly to be better for dungeons, but everything i've read says just keeping int gear is good enough. I guess I can always respec if needed anyhow as I don't need to save for a mount.
That sounds horrible about wpvp. I am totally ok with losing but hate missing out on fun just because i'm literally unable to compete. Oh well, i'm sure I'll learn and adapt either way.
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>Only best players choose horde
>Alliance are for ERPers
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Worst aspect of getting gear in vanilla was being forced to raid. Should have stuck with 5 mans for raids
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>>155410552
I'm ok with the best gear coming from raids. I think it makes sense.
The one thing I hate about it, however, is how long raids take. They can be a lot of fun but if you're NA it can be tough to be able to make any raid times and raiding at 7am on weekdays isn't that great of an option.
On retail I was in college and had a shitty job but could still make raids since I was on a west coast server and quite a few guilds raided late at night.
FUCK EUROPE NEETS.
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>>155410913
>it's games fault I can't find a guild that suits my schedule
>>
>>155410552
thing is in vanilla you didn't feel like some all powerful super important character, if the main content was 5 mans then it wouldn't feel as epic as taking 40 people just to kill some bosses, you know? i get that requiring that many people means more work to organize it and stuff but it just feels right compared to modern wow
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>>155410453
It's rough because no other class is as dependent on swing time as we are. It might help to get an addon that displays this.
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>>155411145
25 is the right amount, 40 is retarded
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDopBwnBE7c

Hey guys prince here back from the dead, enjoy some of my music and if glurf would remake a certain music channel that would be cool aswell. oh well take care.

no but seriously rip prince
>>
Mage quest, lvl 50 reward: should I take Fire Ruby even though I'm a Frost mage (so far, but still)? The reasoning was that +dmg trinkets are quite rare for preraid mages, excluding Briar, and the mana gain can be nice.
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>>155406890

Conc aura fully stacks with maxed no pushback, I think I even saw people put 4/5 points in it for some reason.

I don't think you should bother using anything other than rank 1 SoC. The damage/mana is rather unimpressive on judgement cast and there are better options for that (light/wisdom, provided the mob is tough enough for you to regain the mana spent or crusader debuff for that extra dmg). Vengeance is a pretty nice buff and you should be getting Sanctity/2h Spec anyway.
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>"REMEDY is killing people in BRM"
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>meme is a top 100 guild
>Nihilum can't kill VANILLA NEF
L O L
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>>155406890

It's true that you can heal as ret with some int items but you should let people know your spec so they dont go crazy.
>>
How can I can an invite to the vg guild, also should I bother
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>>155412348
They're all shit, pick your poison
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>>155413270
Meer you're behind the times, Nihilum one shot nef and Indi got server first TF

You're still the biggest cuck this general has seen
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>>155412945
>all that yelling

cmon guys at least be sneaky
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>>155245689
can anyone here draw? it doesn't even have to be good just that there was effort put into it. I could put the effort in and make something but I don't feel like it
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>>155412945
it's always the same type of person that just always has mail in their mailbox
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>>155413270
Nice, when was the raid released?
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How come the only time wpvp happens it's between a level appropriate for the area character and someone 5+ their level, what's the appeal here. Unless you're the jerk that likes picking on people who have no chance against you.
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>>155413270
Heroic don't matter. The best guilds actually use heroics to practice.
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>>155413270
>be way below average player
>while being in such high ranked guild
:thinking:
I have a feeling your guild will drop sub 1k in a week.
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>>155413270
When is schwarbage coming back? He was the only good raider.
>>
>>155413270
Cenarius got corrupted or is this some emerald dream shit?
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>>155411104
i didn't say that. but it is the case when most private servers are 70% EU.
Not a good or bad thing, just too bad for non-neet north americans. Mostly west coast.
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>>155417538
he died
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What the fuck is going on in gchat right now?
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Hey baby
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>>155412918
i think the 4/5 is when taking imp conc aura but i could be wrong.
I had read about not bothering past rank 1 SoC but wasn't 100% sure if that was nost specific or not since that was my main place to read about mechanics.
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>>155418878
Not cute or sexy.

Succ portrait looks nice but their models are a no.
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>>155418878
The model update in retail did them justice
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i tried
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>>155421009
lookin good
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>>155421009
mfw I actually tanked as a shaman
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>>155415764
What do you mean?

It's just trash that didn't sell on AH and I don't feel like dealing with it
>>
>>155415764
what?
Lots of people use the mail system for banker/AH alts or just for additional space.
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how do you cope with having to miss a raid night?
>the stress of the fact that that item might drop
>the stress of knowing friendships, jokes and memories are being made without you
>the stress of knowing that some other shitter is going to top the meters as your class
>the stress of knowing that the loot council is putting you on the naughty list

also can u guys quit tryign to bait me
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Legion is a great expansion very epic with A LOT of content.

Are you guys really too lazy to pay 13 a month?
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>>155425474
Are you really so retarded that you didn't make 3m+ gold from garrisons?

I will never have to pay for game time again
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>>155425474
>he comes in a vanilla wow pvt server general as a retailfag
>and calls people lazy

were you expecting this bait to work?
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>>155425689
Quit wod after 2 months. Guess better than mop did not even buy mop.
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>24th best guild in the WORLD
>Nihilum isn't even 24th best on K2

Just kill yourselves LOL
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>>155426825
>>155416876
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>>155426825
apples and oranges you autist
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>>155416876
Him and Speedwagon dipped after TIDE mentioned cutting the fat (he wasn't even talking about either of them). Kind of unfortunate. It's Welp and Ruslan, right?
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>>155425250
cool avatar
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>>155426825
Isn't the difficulty mode that people actually care about locked still?
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>>155426825
Nihilum is rank 12 on Kronos
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>>155427463
Yes.
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PUPPER PALS LIVES
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>>155428828
pls be my bf
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>>155429075
name?
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>>155429561
automute
>>
almost done setting up luna unit frames and wow crashes and it reset the settings. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
is it too late to start on k2? i don't even remember what is released. are faggots still running MC? i will check their forums to see if there is a guild that plays during when i play.
on nost i had to join an aussie guild and i'm not sure i can handle that kind of garbage ever again in my horrible life.
maybe i should just wait for crestfall and/or kill myself.
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>>155432531
some guilds are just entering MC no joke
you will be probably the last wave of players though so keep that in mind and i'd say you're about two weeks behind everyone
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Hi /krog/, shitter who used to play on Nost here, I'm feeling the WoW itch again lately and I've got a few questions.

How many players are online on the server right now?
How many players in Nihilium are on right now?
Is it still worth hopping onto the Kronos train, or am I too late?

Just as a note, I'm not a hardcore raider or anything, the most I managed to do on Nost was almost hit level 20 and do one instance (Deadmines), so I'm still pretty new and shitty.
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>>155434889
3-4k

A lot, 60+ on raid days

Sure, BWL just came out so you're not far behind at all
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>>155434889

it's not quite nostalrius but its damn good and dont fall for the crestfall shits

crestfall is going to be a total unmitigated disaster screenshot this post
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>>155435948
>>155437235
Got it, thanks guys.

Not sure whether I should play a mage like I've done before, or maybe a priest. Which is easier to level? Which is more wanted?
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>>155437859
i think the demand is similar i would say that if spec properly a priest is just as efficient as a mage, although it takes awhile to get online
>>
>>155437859
Every class is wanted, play what you want.

Just enjoy yourself

(If you play priest, you're probably gonna have to heal)
>>
what guild will let me ret dps
fucking nerds
>>
>>155438683
are there any like *no tryhard*? guilds? like ones that encourage playing non optimal specs? i remember all druid guilds in retail so something like that i guess
>>
hey what do you do when a girl onlline you dont like and who hardly even knwos you tells you she basicalyl wants to marry you?
>>
I want to marry Indi!
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>>155440706
>tfw no indi bp
>>
kronos is officially d e a d
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>>155413270
>>155427046
Uhm... did you not kill Xavius? Guess that makes you worse than Nihilum :/
>>
So when is Crestfall beta going to happen? What happened to the "end of the summer"? Explain this, shills.
>>
>>155442095

refer to this post

>>155291306

crestfall beta, when it ever happens, is gonna be DoA and shills will say "ITS IN BETA"

also Crestfall expects MONTHS of beta on their FAQ, given that it will definitely be longer than they expect, it's not coming out till mid 2017
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found puddi in retail!!!
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>>155442728
What server are you on?
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>>155442728
what a fuckslut wow
>>
friendly reminder, Auto
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>>155442761
Stormscale!
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>>155443242
>>155443242
>>155442728
Puddi, your char looks like my rogue, spooky
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>>155442309
Crestfall is a shit meme server that will literally cave into blizz c&d orders
>>
>>155442728
>>155443242
Humans have one of the best models since the update but I can never find those lewd images with them in it
it's always Worgen, Tauren, bloodelves or pandas, I really hate the creators of wow porn!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>155442728
puddi is such a slut its unbelievable
>>
>>155442728
>>155443242
W H O R E
H
O
R
E
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>>155403928
>more about community
>isn't a glorified chat room

Kek
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>>155443242
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>>155443242
>>155442728
>tfw guild is on Horde so you're stuck

:(
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>>155444558
at least this guy is my friend. . .
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>>155444558
>>155444718
it's okay matdy we all love you
>>
>>155410459
>look at me guys look its me haha aren't I popular
>>
>>155410459
>no skills just luck
>>
>>155444558
>>155444718
I'll be you're friend just stay right there, I'll level up a shaman and see you soon.
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>Kas seething with jealousy on discord about puddi and indi

Is Kas actually a chick?
>>
WE /WOWG/ NOW
>>
Haha puddi ecks dee girls lol
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>>155444779
Th-thanks

>>155445025
Sorry, I did the WQ and now I'm back to afking in Dalaran
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>>155444558
>>155443242
>>155442728
Aye lads, ah cannae wait fer Crestfall! Wash yer back!
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>>155418539
Wasn't he revived in cataclysm?
>>
hehe orbiting fat females online lol
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>>155445416
but I'm a guy!?
>>
>>155413747
I still don't understand this.

Why does Nihilum keep trying to get credit for the first thunderfury? Indi got it by doing his own runs, and not with running with the clique councils mc runs. TF also trivializes several encounters in BWL, making it much easier.

It sounds like Indi is essentially carrying Nihilum. How is that something to be proud about?
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>>155445380
i fuckin HATE dwarves!!!!!!!! get the FUCK out!!!!!!
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>>155445461
i'm not
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>>155445469
>gear Indi up
>several Nihilum alts in his MC runs
>Indi himself swore allegiance to Nihilum

and
Indi isn't the MT

the only TF trivializes is one gate on Nef and 1 of 4 corners on Razor which Nihilum had no problems with

sounds like you're butthurt that your guild is shit and doesn't have TF, SNoipah
>>
Glad you've seen the light. Welcome back to retail boys.
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>>155445574
owned, simply owned
>>
Only reply to this post if your a girl
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>>155445626
hi
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>>155445626
y
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>>155445574
>They're not glorifying the guild, so it must be snoipah!

LOL.

So wait, you brought in a few alts into a pug raid, so that's somehow making it a nihilum sponsored raid?

>the only TF trivializes is one gate on Nef and 1 of 4 corners on Razor which Nihilum had no problems with

Yet judging upon your raid logs and the timings of the deaths, it seems that it was an issue on both encounters for the weeks leading up to your kill.

Seriously though, why are you so salty about this issue dude? It's kinda funny.
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>>155445574
to be quite honest, phase 1 is the ONLY thing on nef that is difficult and TF makes it a complete joke
>>
Fuck nihilum and their shitty clique. At least my retail guild values me.
>>
Indi didn't even use his tf on razorgore because we use the kite stray so idk what this guy is shitposting about
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Vanilla isn't difficult at all you mongs
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>>155446014
>>155446102

>Yet judging upon your raid logs and the timings of the deaths, it seems that it was an issue on both encounters for the weeks leading up to your kill.

what? except it wasn't

don't talk shit if you have no idea


Our problems on Nef were
>retarded casters dying to the breath when he landed
>Automute being a fucking retard and not turning Nef during rogue class call so all the rogues died to cleave/breath combo
>skeletons from previous tries not despawning so we had to fight 80 skeletons with all the rogues dead

We killed him on our 6th or 7th try over all anyway

how fucking mad are you right now?
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>tfw not gonna come to any more raids if Auto doesn't change my name
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>>155446234
Jesus dude, relax, you're going to have an aneurysm if you keep being so salty. Personally, I'm enjoying this. Watching you trying to justify yourself is pretty hilarious.

Seriously though, do you have trouble reading raid logs or something? Or do you have trouble understanding the mechanics behind the encounters?

I mean, if you do have such trouble with that, just ask and I can help you out. It really seems like you're struggling with understanding the concepts of both, so it'd be no worry.
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>>155446661
nigga, I was there for the fights and saw what went wrong

you're trying to use logs that are recorded by 1 player in our raid so they're often wrong anyway

but please, humor me, show me in the logs where we fucked up without TF
you won't because you're a sad sack of shit who always wants to be the center of attention and you're now mad that everyone is having fun after you left the guild
so now you're shitposting as anon, spinning up lies, twisting facts around in your mind so they fit your pathetic view of things and in the end you probably think you're right
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>>155445379
o-okay haha
>>
How many level 110's do you have anon? I have three, and three more over 105.
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>>155446761
>he still thinks I'm snoipah
How paranoid can you be? It's just sad dude.

Ok, here we go.

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=47918

Look at the timings of death, and the classes that died. Your healers and other important classes were all taken out almost always before razorgore even appeared.

What does that mean? Your fight wasn't under control. At all.

Then suddenly, thunderfury appears!

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/FightOverview.aspx?Raid=48462&Fight=0

Deaths suddenly go down by a significant amount, almost like most your corners were under control. Gee? I wonder what would assist you in dishing out ae taunt?

Nefarian looks the same.

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=48063

Doorways weren't under control, and by the time that nef actually did touch down, all your dps were dead and healers were down, so you wiped.

Then comes thunderfury to the rescue, again! Thankfully this time you even got easier colors, which must have made it easier.

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/FightOverview.aspx?Raid=48462&Fight=7

Again, looks like you had a corner still not under control, likely blue, and yet again your dps died. Thankfully though, you did manage to kill it, so well done!

But seriously dude, I'm worried about you. You seem more angry about this than you should. Everything alright in your personal life? Because getting this salty about a game can't be good for your health.
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>>155447431
one
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>>155447652
anyone who thinks Tfury doesn't trivialize razorgore + nefarian is retarded don't waste your breath
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>>155447652
you are actually making me fucking angry, good job, Snoipah

>Look at the timings of death, and the classes that died. Your healers and other important classes were all taken out almost always before razorgore even appeared.

>What does that mean? Your fight wasn't under control. At all.

BECAUSE OUR HUNTERS ARE SHIT AND FD AFTER GETTING CAUGHT

INDI ISN'T EVEN USING TF ON RAZORGORE

STOP FUCKING TRYING TO TALK ABOUT SHIT WHEN YOU WEREN'T EVEN THERE

>e that nef actually did touch down, all your dps were dead and healers were down, so you wiped.

BECAUSE THESE FUCKING RETARDS GET BREATHED ON
YOU CAN EVEN FUCKING SEE HOW IIT'S ALWAYS MAGES/LOCKS DYING AT THE SAME TIME, THEN ROGUES DURING CLASS CALL

NOT A SINGLE FUCKING HEALER DIED DURING P1 IN THE LOGS YOU LINKED

HOLY FUCKING SHIT, ONCE AGAIN, STOP TALKING IF YOU WEREN'T EVEN PRESENT


DOORWAYS WERE NEVER A PROBLEM


>>155447778
STOP FUCKING TALKING TO YOURSELF
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>>155447865
mad
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>>155447865
Cool it Glurf, wouldn't want Jamal to come and beat you again, would we?
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>>155447652
TF is not used on Razorgore because it fucks up our kiting
Gates were never a problem on Nef, you can even see that in your logs

what's your problem?
>>
>samefags to agree with himself
>goes for "how mad r u" ASAP

I could give a shit and hate most everyone who namefags on here but it's obviously Snoipah. The dude is the most predictable sack of shit and then wonders why he has no friends.
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>>155447865

Whoa dude. You okay? You need me to call someone for you? It's distressing seeing you so salty over this, I mean, there's clearly nothing I can do to help you understand.

Maybe if you try and remember that there's 60 seconds to a minute, it might help you to realize how the fights actually went.

>more snoipah conspiracy theories

Really dude? Is he like your boogy man? It's pathetic.
>>
>>155448346
>Maybe if you try and remember that there's 60 seconds to a minute, it might help you to realize how the fights actually went.

>I wasn't there but let me tell you how it went

dude, what is wrong with you

What's your excuse for trying to say Razorgore is SO easy when Indi doesn't even use TF there?
What's your excuse for saying it trivializes Nef p1 when we never had any problems with it? Does TF have a secret ability that protects your retard casters from the breath?
Please tell me.
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>>155448036
>mfw I'm not snoipah
>>
Does faction rep actually discount epic mount cost or is it always 1k total?
>>
>>155448451
>>155447865
>tfw people are getting so upset.

y-you too
>>
>>155448906

To add to that, is it true that rank 3 gives you an additional 10% price decrease?
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>>155448451
>tf isn't op!

Yeah okay bud :^)
>>
>>155448906

Yeah, honored with the faction is a 10% discount and so is pvp rank 3.
>>
>>155449060
never said that

happy to see you're moving your goalposts
I won
>>
>>155447909

Sorry, I'm not emotionally invested in proving someone with no clue about <Nihilum> raids wrong.

You're talking to someone else, likely an american.

TF made no real difference for phase 1 of nef.
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>>155449141
>he thinks im the other guy

Paranoid much?
>>
hey guys we're rolling ally on crestfall right?
>>
>people survived to breath because TF put a shield on them
>not because people are more expierenced and control fights better
How retarded can one be?
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>>155449372
>>
Reminder that there are leftist sociopaths posting in this general right now!
>>
Kas is a dirty nigger rat
t. Infamy
>>
>>155449774
FUCK GLURF
>>
im sorry glurf i didnt mean it please forgive me
>>
>>155449165
>I-it wasn't me. . .

This damage control, my god
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>>155449970
This
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>>155448674
snoipah
tucker
and final flash are the bogey men of krog
these autistic really think they are behind all the shit posts.
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>People in this thread don't think crestfall will btfo kronokeks

Can't wait untill crestfall bleeds your server dry desu, you'l probably be able to poach whats left if you stay with it though. might even be able to AQ kek
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>>155452095
>mfw there was an identical post to this one for elysium
shills always lose
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>>155452115
>identical
I don't know why you would consciously deceive yourself like this, it seems like alot of effort to miss remember things.

Maybe when it happens you'll remember conveniently not remember the post you just made.
>>
@155452184

Literally the exact same post one month ago, lmaoing at ur life right now
>>
>>155402193
Last time I told (You) yes you are Nursa samefagging to use a tripcode so I can filter (You), (You) got upset and ignored my bank character. Definitely not chill at all.
>>
>discord right now

friendly reminder that

I would watch a documentary about Kasandra trying to fight her drinking problem. Isn't she from Poland? That would be some good shit, having to resist all this vodka while fighting with her parents because she's not keen on getting a job. She just wants to play on Kronos and shitpost in discord all day about how she's not getting any T2.
One day her parents kick her out and to get by she starts working as a prostitute.

DVD/blu-ray hidden bonus scene: she's masturbating in front of the computer to her character idling on IF bridge with Nihilum members around, really horny from all the attention she's getting
there would also be a bonus scene of her making sexual advancements towards her dog after she got another piece of T2 and is just happy and drunk

Season 2 would include a Nihilum meet up with a huge orgy
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>>155452393
>Season 2 would include a Nihilum meet up with a huge orgy

I like it, post more.
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>>155452284
>want nursa to get a trip so you can ignore her
>nursa ignores you instead
sounds like you got cucked tbqh, I don't know why nursa btfoing has anything to do with me, didn't you expect pondscum like yourself to just be swatted like the fly you are?
>>
>>155452473
this poster is beyond obnoxious

fucking narcissists, mang
>>
>>155452516
>Whipser someone something stupid
>W-what they ignored me!
I really don't get why this has anything to do with me, go talk to nursa on your main character maybe if you don't say anything stupid you'll find out why you're not worth wasting time on.
>>
>>155452609
>there's no way that more than one person could dislike me / post against me!

i'm not the poster you replied to, your overuse of animu reaction images and obnoxious posting style are unbearable
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>Literally the exact same post one month ago, lmaoing at ur life right now

So you're a liar and a retard, nice.
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>>155261997
>>155247791
>>155247724
thanks for reminding me why I quit this shitty private server. faggots
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>>155452827
>there's no way that more than one person could dislike me / post against me!

That's a strawman and it's a stupid one. most people say not the same anon to avoid these sort of things, but you're slower than other people so it's fine I'l just be sure to ignore this.

>overuse
>animu
>obnoxious
>unbearable

Kay.
>>
>>155452609
>>155452516
>>155452473
>>155452284
>>155302929
>>155294454
>>155294579
>>155294938
>>155382546
>>155338620
>>155376975
>>155377459
>>155402193

testing for (You)s
>>
>answer a question in a whisper
>guy replies thanks, and that he's a noob to wow
>welcome him and explain some things
>answer several questions of his
>he thanks me again
>mentions how nice I am and wishes more people were like me
>helping the server retain new players instead of being toxic to them and scaring hem away
>helping people out
>doing a good deed

feels better than an orgasm if I can be honest with you right now my family member
>>
>>155453063
>helping the server retain new players

Feels like Vanilla alright.
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>>155452473
you annoying tripfaggots/attentionwhores need to get the fuck out. you ruin every general on /vg/ kill yourself

also
>that fucking gif
fuck off to tumblr you 12 year old
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>>155453048
not an argument
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>>155453337
I've never used a trip and I only reply to other peoples posts about a topic in the /vg/ general, maybe its people like you who ruin threads.

also
>He doesn't know how use images from the internet and not on his HDD.
Anti posters are worst than anything you've described because these mongoloids don't know how to filter properly. like you, you're a mongoloid in case that went over you're head which I'm sure it did

>>155453448
I'll give this much well meme'd
>>
>>155453063
>60 is camping redridg
>people are quitting because of that
>come help them
>they thank me
>few will now not quit the game because they saw good standing up to evil

Have you done your daily good deed anon?
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>>155453060
zero yous. webm related

>>155452284

>NURSANURSANURSANURSA IS BEHIND THIS POST
and yet i never am

you are a paranoid loser lol

>>155453270
reveal yourself!!
>>
>>155453819
>press ctrl+shift+n
>zero posts are now (You)s
this really made me think by the way
>>
>>155453819
>w10
>>
>>155453819
chrome icognito tabs are black on top you can see when i alt tab in the webm that that isn't the case
>>
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>>155453926
>Think
Stop trying to imitate people, it looks sad when you try.
>>
>>155454119
this was meant for >>155453926
this triggerlord btw
>>
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>>155453819
Everything just got out of hand really fast.
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>>155453819
>Pause @ 00:03s
>Shopping tab wide open

"SHE" confirmed?
>>
>>155454502

>>155454502

>>155454502

New thread.
>>
>>155312997
actually on any kind of server
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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