XCOM General - /xcg/

pistols are useful

A good snek is a dead snek

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>>155182946
damn rigth

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Quick, post the best soldiers on your roster.
He's one of two rangers in my roster, I'm dying for a third but I keep getting shit I don't need, like specialists or sharpshooters.

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>>155183052
>>With the Sword.

That's how it's done.

What happens if I lay multiple sniper killzones overlapping? Will they both shoot at anything inside it??

>>155183447
I mean yes, but that would mean taking multiple snipers.

Does hunter's instinct apply to enemies out of cover as well?

>>155183447
the killzone becomes a murder zone
in other words yes, they will take turns taking shots as if they where in overwatch

>>155133659
>>155133825
Really, that should not be a thing. Also full cover up to a certain angle towards the enemy should provide 0% crit (for both sides, of course), increasing exponentially at lower angles.

Thoughts?

>>155183849
I'm 99% certain it does. Flanked targets and exposed targets should be treated the same, there is effectively no difference.

>>155139595
>>155139595

>all those sweet sound effects

>>155163801
I GOT YOU

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=677573817

Posting this awesomeness from previous thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJgVmm1gNPM&feature=youtu.be

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what mods/official assets would be best for recreating her, bonus for alternate tiers

I do have a build in mind for her, Medical Specialist with a SMG and a focus on Poison and Gas Grenades in her inventory

>>155184658
>her
But seriously, I don't think there is a plague mask unfortunately. Someone should definitely get to work on that.
A custom class based on plauge doctor could be pretty cool. Flashbangs with stun, better dots, built in venom ammo. I'd dig it. Could even make them come with a knife.

Speaking of knives:>>155184653

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>>155184464

You got the wrong pic there dude.

Here, let me fix that for you.

>>155184907
plague Doc is a girl, but also classes bassed on all the DD classes would be neat, Abomination would be hardest, possibly fluff as an escaped alien hybrid experiment and use the Faceless animations in conjunction with a Berserker based alt form

>>155184953
too ugly

>>155184347
ever miss a 99% ?

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>>155185146
Of course, doesn't stop me from taking them.

>>155185048
>plague Doc is a girl
Well aware anon

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>>155184658
without a proper mask this might be as close as i can replicate
mods used:
>custom bandana
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=619355253
>Individual arms
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=705122565

>>155185340
in the absence of beak masks I'd use Gasmasks, its what they were meant to serve as anyway, just color them white, what voice pack should he go for?

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>>155185340
There's gotta be something more... coat-like.
What about the Fallout Ranger Coat?

>>155185526
hmm, I like, what of the other Tiers after?

>>155185440
do you have one in mind?
the only gas mask i had had a clear visor thats why i didnt used it

>>155185526
downloading it right now

>>155185659
Ranger mask for T1 and FROG mask for T2 so far

>>155185745
>FROG mask
Perfect actually, why didn't I think of that. Frog mask every tier imo.

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>>155185793
good point, paint it white and mix with a hood if I can, just need more loose fabrcs, an Arc Trooper Battle Skirt would be berfect

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>>155185526
srry keep you waiting
fucking anarchy torsos resetting my shit

>>155185745
what mod is the ranger mask? or do you mean the fallout ranger?
>>155185793
also this is weird i have the FROGG suits but i cant find the mask

>>155186175
ment fallout but decided just frog mask as the masks aren't tier bound

>>155186175
Gas mask actually looks pretty decent, though I'd still like to see the frog. It should be there, I know it's not tier locked.

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Rookie/Squaddie uniform

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>>155186334
Corporal/Sergeant uniform

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>>155186242
>>155186307
found the frog mask but the problem is that its a helmet, that means no hood
the same for the fallout masks they are helmets

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>>155186334
>>155186425
Lieutenant uniform

>>155186465

You can easily change that by editing the mod's content.ini.

>>155186465
ohhh! my bad, well hoodless isnt the end of the world, worst case I can go for less recreation and more of an "in spirit" tone

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>>155186334
>>155186425
>>155186523
Captain uniform

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>>155186334
>>155186425
>>155186523
>>155186606
Major uniform

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>>155186334
>>155186425
>>155186523
>>155186606
>>155186696
Colonel uniform

>>155186696
>>155186606
>>155186523
>>155186425

These look like they're backwards, the captain and major uniforms look more low tech than the other ones.

>>155186574
wouldn't it be clipping through
the hood?
i could give it a shoot if you want

>>155186590
dont worry, it was actually fun to try it out and try a mod i never used before
and i think i am gonna remove immediately after

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Then the special one I give only to the current best of the best in my entire barracks

>>155186848

Well it would clip because that hood is too small, the only hood i can think where maybe it wouldn't clip is the one from that powered helmet mod from the nexus.

>>155186914
hooded versions of helmets would make a worse while mod I think, or a "helmet sized hood" as a universal one to work with other mods

>>155186970
*worth while

>>155186810
my mentality was irregular / SOF types

When you look at a lot of american special forces they get more dressed down the more elite they are

>>155182374
airgame when

>>155187306
xcom 3

now hush

Remember when this game came out and we were excited about all the cool mods that would come out?
Now, there ARE some cool mods out there, but I'm still waiting for a lot of stuff.
>Aliens TC
>Starship Troopers TC
>Halo TC
>40k TC
>Blaster-like plasma weapons (why doesn't this exist yet? Beams generally look awful, especially for hand-held weapons)

etc

>>155187306
expansion maybe??
i was thinking how in EU base defense was something they had to left out but people wanted it so they introduced it in EW
i wonder if air game will be the same story

>>155187370
total conversions are going to be a LONG time in the making

>>155187549
An Aliens conversion would be baller. You'd go around answering distress calls and and it would mostly be minor stuff (rebels or something), but when xenos turn up it would be a pants shitting experience. The concealment mechanic could be turned against you instead and they would sneak around and pick you off one by one.
A man can dream.

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>>155187468

Hopefully it will done.

By Project Aces.

>>155187913
for me the dream is a Mass effect mod, remaking the three games in tactical format with some fire emblem elements for squad interaction, also some new characters to fill out the roster because anyone can still die, you can bring Shepard into the battle but at great risk of an instant game over, smart commanders spend more time commanding then shooting themselves

>install about half a dozen mods including the alien pack and make the game more like long war
>commander + ironman like my vanilla playthroughs
>still feels too easy, never lose anybody
>install some more mods including Better AI
>get wrecked by basic advent tactics on gatecrasher
>try again
>still lost one guy
This is great. I can't wait to see how the other enemies are

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>>155186334
>>155186425
>>155186465
>>155186523
>>155186606
>>155186696
>>155186794
>>155186884
Pretty neat

This is what I have for everyone of all ranks

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Damn I really like the Mass Effect weapons firing effects and sounds but they're all ugly as sin. Wish I could somehow use them with the Reach weapons instead.

>>155187468
Bringing the airgame back would be nice, but I'm not sure how they'd implement it since there isn't any room in the Avenger. Possibly co-ordinating aircraft launches from various hidden Resistance outposts?

Whatever we get in the expansion, I'll bet it's going to have something to do with Shen down in engineering. Both of the DLC packs filled in areas on the Avenger originally filled with random crates and webbing, and the last of those bits is down near the rear ramp, just to the right of where your SPARKs are repaired.

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>>155188592
idea, a Drone bay, remotely operated from the Avenger

>>155188592
using drones instead of planes would somewhat fix the size issue and its more belivebale

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How do you guys feel about bringing gen mods back?

https://gaming.youtube.com/user/TheShadowscythe/live

I AM GOING LIVE (kinda right now ish)

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>>155188592
>>the last of those bits is down near the rear ramp

Air Game CONFIRMED FOR SMASH

Err... Anyway, I like the idea of air bases around the map. It's a callback of the previous XCOM games and they would represent your level of control in a zone as they could help defend not only from UFOs but from retaliation strikes as well.

>>155188729
>>155188798

Not a fan of drones but it could work given that we got SPARKs instead of MECs.

>>155188729
>>155188798

That's an interesting idea, actually. A drone bay would be pretty cool and it's a logical extension of Gremlin technology.

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>>155189339

That said, the idea of actually deploying Ravens/Firestorms from the Avenger is way too awesome to ignore.

>>155189007

Probably a thing since the Doc is the only one that has yet to go into a field operation. I actually look forward to it.

>>155189561
That's one fancy looking pocketknife.

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>>155189363

The Avenger would become this.

>>155182374
>>155187306
FUCK

AIRGAME

>>155189339
>>the last of those bits is down near the ramp
>the avenger would have to land to launch the drones
>because of that you cant use them when a UFO hunts you
>but if you get down you get to call one strike

somehow this fits

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Cyclops mod when

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>>155189934

'sup

>>155189983
>the avenger would have to land to launch the drones

Why? Just strap everything down and shove it out the back while in mid-flight.

>>155189007
I want genemods and I also want natural traits for soldiers, not just AWC perks.

By traits I mean; Enjoys killing (insert ayy) + crit chance against that enemy type or shining knight + mobility on retaliation missions. etc

Adds a bit more randomized story to the characters.

>>155189561
Looks like its pooping but its clinging onto a pube.

>>155191765
The randomized backstory could be related to the natural trait. That'd be cool.

I want gene mods so I can create my SPARTAN supersoldiers to match the armors and weapons. Also covenant weapons when.

>>155191893
I want genemods but I also want mutation. I want my eagle eyes soldier to have big black scary looking eyes.

I know it's off topic but why isn't there a decent boxing game for me to play on PC between XCOM playthroughs?

Is there any mod to remove the skyranger movie thing before every mission? The one with your soldiers getting deployed.

>>155192481
It's a loading screen.

>>155192508
damn that thing is laggy as fuck on my toaster

>>155187370

Even if this game was popular enough to have total conversion mods, total conversion mods are probably the mods that take the longest time to be made.

Blaster plasma weapons don't exist because no one is interested in fancy sci-fi guns. Now enjoy your 67 Ak-47 variants.

>>155193491
It's just a matter of changing the projectiles, not the weapons themselves.

>>155187370
You know it's been less than a year, right?

>>155187913
Why? They were literally just clever animals in Aliens.

The platoon in that failed because they were super incompetent, not because the xenomorphs were threatening.

Why the hell are all these music packs almost 1gb each

XCOM 2's mods are killing my hard drive space

>>155191765
There's a mod for that. Look up Potentials.

>>155195270
because otherwise they'll decay

>>155195617
Wut

>>155195705
because of rotational velocidensity

>>155195705
The actuators in sound discrepancies degrade while reformatted.

>>155195784
Wut

>>155196410
The sound will be shittier if the file sizes were any smaller

>>155197605

Excuse me?

>>155198912
file small, sound bad
file big, sound good

>>155199223
I don't follow.

>>155200118
oooga booga
booga

I heard and found out the hard way that installing mods mid-campaign is a bad idea, but if I install a bunch and then just don't activate them in the launcher, will they still fuck everything up?

>>155200285
no

>>155188592
Boarding parties with jetpacks.

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Verdict out on coop?

>>155203941
why /10

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Hello guys

>>155182374
ayy, I've been absent for a month, did I miss any new memes?

do we have a drawfag yet?

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>>155206426
Is it really that fucking hard to NOT draw a fucking snout on the viper for these talentless retards?

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How did I do, /xcg/? Advent Burgers is still a thing right?

>>155206706
but anon

that would break the repetition and sameness of things, the most sworn habit of autists

>>155206426
See >>155206767

This is how it's done
8/10, finish it up and it's bueno
good work pls do more

>>155206604
>do we have a drawfag yet?
no we still don...
>>155206767
Well maybe.

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>>155206706

>>155206706
Draw it yourself then. Surely you aren't a talentless hack.

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>>155206706
Is this what you're complaining about?

>>155207195
>>155207765
>shit artist getting triggered this hard over people critizing his shit art
you literally have a game for reference and you STILL manage to fuck it up. How much of an autistic shitwit you must be to fuck that up?

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>>155207195
>>155207765
>"You can't criticize a book unless you have written one yourself"
kys

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srsly tho how hard is it?

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REMOVE SNEK

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G-Pen tool will be the death of me.

>>155206706
>>155209001
that's like complaining about people drawing female EXALT and ADVENT soldiers

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>>155209416
>When you activate Reaper and behead two whole pods of Sneks in one go

>>155206706
They're furries. They've been drawing snouts for years. Of course it's hard.
If you know what I mean.

>>155210168

what do you mean?

>>155210285
He means that you're a regular furry for liking sneks, faggot.

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>>155209502
>>155206767
Can you possibly draw Sheila? It's been so long I almost don't care, yet at the same time it just feels like a project that never got finished.

>>155210362

Come again?

>>155189339
Airbases around the world that you have to defend would be cool.

One of my favorite new features in LW was the airbase defense, utilizing the previously MP-only airbase map.

>>155210362
So?

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>>155210469
Sheila?

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>>155211218
Yeah we had someone draw us up some ADVENT a while ago. We got the lancer and captain, but the shield bearer just never happened.

>>155193491
>>155193652
I think the reason why you don't see blasters is mostly because 90% of the cosmetic mods for XCOM2 are ports, with the remaining ten percent split between kitbashing existing assets and actual original texture/model work.

So it's only that small percentage that would even have an idea of what they can do to make custom projectiles. Most of the existing T2/T3 replacements that actually stick to theme (IE, railguns and energy weapons) either use X2's effects or modify them slightly (the Mercenary weapons use a yellow beam and have electricity crackle across the weapon as it charges the shot)

The only mod I can think of with actually new effects is, to little surprise, the LW Team's laser pack.

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>>155211549
Never knew they have names.

>>155211882
It's a terrible meme from one of /xcg/'s darkest times.

>>155211882
They were just characters collectively agreed upon by /xcg/.
Patricia Tidsahuey (Captain)
Ampelle Derrièrenette (Lancer)
Sheila Behrür (Sheildbearer)

>>155211882
its a fan name but died off
i am not surprised you didn't know

>>155212207
waifus 4 life faggot

>>155212214
>Derrièrenette

Christ that's a fucking mouthful

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>>155214602
You're damn right it is

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>>155210049
>when you pop reaper on the cave mission with young sneks

>>155215517
Yeah you killed those babies real good xcom, hope you feel super heroic

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Full ranger-ninja squad is goddamn hilarious to play holy shit.
>everyone has concealment
>terror missions consist of almost all civilians as ninjas just sprint across the map like in some shitty bleach anime
>every encouncer imaginable is solved with point-blank application of shotguns and swords

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>>155216414
just look at this shit
even when I got two simultaneous pod activations after the first ambush they never got even a single hit on my ninjas

>>155216568
You try the spec ops combat knifes for that more operator feel?

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Post Blacksites!

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>>155215517
Is that a fucking Registeel

Regies as an alternative to SPARKS when

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>>155217231
And magnemite line as Gremlins
oh yes this is the right shit

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ayyyys are ____________

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>>155218193

>>155218382
Still wished they had just ported these snappy neon collars for elite sectoids

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Newfag here. Is it possible in Xcom 2 to do the first mission with random rookies and have your character pool soldiers ready for recruitment or already recruited when you're back on the ship? Or is it possible to use the charpool soldiers in the first mission and force them to be promoted into a special class? Promotion seems to work randomly.

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>>155216716
nah but I probably should

but now for some maximum ninja shenanigans
>rescue VIP

>>155219384
character pool dudes/dudettes are usually already on your ship

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>protect the device mission
>end first turn
>captain takes a shot at the device
>MISSED

i didn't know this could happen.

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>>155219386
I'm already feeling sorry for Advent

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>>155219796

>>155219663
100% shots can miss. It's quite normal.

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>>155219967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpERR8R4mvk mission theme

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>>155219967
first victims spotted

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>>155220118
leaving one "dodge" PCS implanted ninja to act as a trigger for the ambush

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>>155220259
miss

>>155220259
>>155220405
Wait, hold on
Did you just let a pod Beaglerush you?

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>>155220405
it is a universal law that grunts, doing all the thankless hard work under the wise guidance of their fuckwit superiors, have talent to recognize an approaching SNAFU

he chose the best tactic in this situation, which is to leg it

too bad that it was far too late for that

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>>155220881
stunlancer's turn to fuck up

you're all dead

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>>155216896

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>>155221107
also just love this shot

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>>155221059
Within the same turn of the guardian getting a critical application of magnetically accelerated buckshot to the face and her stunlancer buddy following close behind, a trio of mutons appear.

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>>155221439
Since she nailed the holo-bitch, she gets a free "dodge-the-next-attack" card

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>>155221614
>both misses each other

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>>155221759
One trigger-rigger later we're clear

That "Hunter-Instinct" upgrade for rangers bought from the Guerrila Tactics School is enough to make the most wet-eared ranger a walking instagibbing machine

>>155206767
>>155209502
>>155211218
>>155211882
oh hey, welcome Inker! i know you from the thread formerly known as /wst/

thanks for doing some stuff for us, these are great!

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>>155222027
"ayyy lmao wh-OH SHIT THERE'S GODDAMN NINJAS IN THE HOUSE"

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>>155222208
You only see a ninja when you're already dead.

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>>155222381
This does look like fun

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>>155222381
Advent dropship drops more meat into the grinder

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>>155222541
They had no fucking chance in hell lmao
I even softened two of them for the rookie rangers to get some experience from.

Everyone dead once again within one turn of them appearing.

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>>155222736
And this answers the question of who would win in a "Ninjas vs Aliens" fight.

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>>155223028

>>155223173
Since there's two "Icepick" nicknames, which one of them should I give a new nickname?

>>155223297
Name one of them Sonic to go with Knuckles. Also seems appropriate for a Ranger.

>>155223403
>>155223297
>Knock knock it's knuckles

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>>155223403
>>155223431
done
also last mission I grabbed a mobility PCS which I gave to "Coyote" (who you can see outside near the viper) who can now run over thirty tiles away

>>155211612

>The only mod I can think of with actually new effects is, to little surprise, the LW Team's laser pack.

The laser pack also uses recolored plasma beams, even the lensflare is the same.

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>>155216716
>>155219386
I'd recommend it. Shinobi, the LW class, plus the SpecOp knife is almost broken. Almost because I don't think you can reliably kill things like MECs, Andros, etc. with the knife, only ADVENT troops.

But my top scout has about 50 skills despite rarely ever going loud, and Shinobi can take Serial so if you do get revealed by something you can just make them regret ever making you use a gun.

Plus you can take an SMG for obscene mobility, which will increase the damage of "Fleche" (LW's slash, it gives +1 damage for every three tiles of movement between you and your victim - how I get this DIS-GUSTING crit) and let you just get a free +3 damage on any flanking shot thanks to Hunter's Instincts, which more or less nullifies the damage loss from lolSMG.

>>155225883
Really? I looked up a video (haven't tried the pack, my current campaign is in Plasma and I want to wait for it to finish before I enable it) and it seemed like they fire instantly and do a burst-fire, just like Ballistic/Mag weapons instead of the single charge-shot Plasma has.

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>>155216896

The xcom EW shitter from last thread:

People always say you want to deal with an enemy before they have time to deal with you, so basically right on pod activation:

My problem is I can't do that, a couple things i've picked up from beagle are
>dont go right onto corners (to prevent vision) untill set up properly
>overwatch alot
any other tips? I can never seem to be in a good enough position on open maps

Another problem for me is thinmen, they tend to pop out of no where and flank my guys very easily. Any help at all would be appreciated

>>155195784
>>155195746

Holy shit we really are stuck in the past, /xcg/. Thanks for reminding me to back up my music on non-rotating media.

pro tip for anyone playing xpiratez
bows are really good

>>155229049
Alright, on open maps it's less about your position, because until you get all sorts of options (high end snipers, abilities on units, long distance grenade throwing, smoke+suppression over open ground cheese) it's going to be impossible for you to advance safely over open ground. Even if you have a good setup, if you make contact from hard cover across a clearing to aliens in hard cover, you will lose the ensuing firefight. Break line of sight, fall back, and entice them into advancing across the clearing. You can have someone edge up to and back down from a corner each turn to check their progress. If that doesn't work out, thank Jake you're not on time limited missions yet, and being overwatch creeping around the clearing to secure a better avenue of approach. Some maps, like the shipyards for example, though, you're basically fucked unless you brought options (flashbangs, smoke, grenades) to deal with an open firefight. Just be careful not to exhaust all of your fighting potential on one pod, and be even more careful not to activate more while trying to maneuver. There's a really good instance of this earlier on in Beagu's Live and Impossible S2 where he gets into a firefight on the shipping warehouse map and explains how, given the narrow nature of the area, you sometimes have no choice but to bog down, hunker your front, and try to make safe moves into flanking positions or places the enemy can't see.

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>after thousands of hours of X-Com and XCOM, squad wipes still demoralize me to the point where I need to push myself to continue the campaign

>>155229049
Those tips are pretty good. You know about the congo line right? Move one guy up with a blue move (hopefully to full cover). If he doesn't activate anything, then everyone can move up directly behind him in a line. Using this properly will mean that you always activated pods on your first move instead of later ones, giving you a better chance to respond.

>>155229165
Can confirm. Weapons with arc fire in general are really good to have mixed into your arsenal.

>>155229847
This anon gives good advice.

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>>155182374
To whichever anon mentioned Boards of Canada last thread, thanks lad. Perfect background chill music.

>>155230016
You'll be ok

>>155229847
Thank you very much for taking the time to write that out. Most helpful general in all of /vg/

>>155230747

I gotta be honest, the fact that this Patsy album cover depicts a male captain aggrieves my autism.

>>155231013
Would be pretty hard to get this good of an album cover again.

>>155188191
They're too busy not making Ace Combat 7

>>155231347

There hasn't been a truly good AC since Zero, anyway.

Is there a mod that stops my customization options from changing when I equip a different armor?

>>155231606
Agreed. 04 a best.

>>155232474

I stand for The Unsung War, myself.

>>155230942
Thanks for reading it! Pay attention to this guy >>155230126 too, because the conga line is probably the most valuable trick you can know regarding making contact. Advancing in cover is common sense, it might feel right to do, but unfortunately it also greatly increases the risk of accidental contact so ending your turns in line formation is A: completely safe without Itchy Trigger Tentacle/XCOM 2 rules, and B: the optimal way to position when you need to play it safe. Cover is for when the fight starts, before that you have to put more attention into lines of sight and concealment, so knowing where you can safely move your conga line without making contact until you WANT to is something you should be making observations on.

>>155222381
You're not using that mod that increases the density of mutons and adds Lancers with counterstrike I see

>>155227069
The Laser Weapons do have recolored assets, but they modify them a bit and they play around with the code so it fires near instantly.

Favorite thing about the mod is that the weapon's parts actually move around like in the concept art for XCOM's laser weapons. That can't have been easy to do.

Thoughts on shadow ops custom classes?

fucking DODGE. every fucking shot DODGE. holy shit this is most bullshit mechanic in xcom 2. JAKE WHY? PLS FIX.

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>>155235123
there was a fix mod released a while ago, it's called git gud :^)

>>155235123

I kinda like it to be honest. It's a way for certain enemies to be more difficult to kill without having more hit points or LW Floater-tier defense.

>>155236859
noice

So I installed LW for Xcom 2 and now I have 2 Ranger classes, what the fuck?

>>155238484

In the character pool? Yeah. Just use the half of the list that includes classes like Shinobi and Gunner,

>>155238484
Aight so the Long War perk pack replaces all the base classes, you're going to have double grenadiers, sharpshooters, and specialists too. This should only appear in the character pool, in game they should be automatically prevented from being applied to your units.

>>155238908
>>155238978

Thanks guise and sorry for the stupid question, should've known the mod wouldn't be as retarded as to apply the old ones
But then when creating a character how do I know which are the old ones?
Old Ranger has the Shinobi sword so that's easy, but what of the others?

>>155232626
I would too if the story wasn't cringeworthily shite

Still an amazing game

>>155239207
Which one am I supposed to shoot again?
Both of them look like scum.

>>155239103
The new classes should be clumped up together on the list, so just check if "Shinobi", "Gunner" and "Assault" are on the lower or upper half of the list.

>>155239207
>so I heard you were talking shit

>>155239103
>>155239375
This, just use the bottom most one. There's also a mod on the Workshop called better character pool or something along those lines that shows you the classname of the soldier class you're selecting instead of the in game displayed text, so with that mod the long war classes will be displayed as LW_Ranger and so on.

>>155239201

I will honestly say I loved the story. It SHOULD be cringeworthy, but somehow the particular fashion in which it is overwrought just works for me. Ace Combat 6, on the other hand, was also overwrought but retained none of the peculiar charm that made 5 fantastic instead of awkward.

MATIIILDAAAAAAAA

>>155232128
Anyone?

>>155239805
not that I know of but get uniforms so you can save a look and load it in after things change

>>155239805

No such mod that I know of, sorry to say. The game simply randomizes a look with the pieces that are applicable to the armor tier, which makes things a holy mess when mods enter the picture.

What was the name of the mod that made sure all RnG rolls were unique?
I remember reading something about they being definitive by default or something

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>>155240696

Eh?

>>155217231
I was expecting the Magnemite to self-destruct.

>>155240696
What like EW rolls?

So playing xpiratez and I ran out of stuff to research, I just made a library yet I can't do anything with it.

>game took around 6 mins to load in from the main menu to my base
>taking about another kinute to load the mission

Someone help. What do

>>155245731

Cut down on mods? I dunno.

>>155229165
They're good for training Reactions and Throwing, but they won't up your Shooting skill.

>>155244656
that... is so unlikely

have you interrogated broken people yet?

>>155248330
yes I have, only the academy medic however.

>>155248663
break a ship engineer

>>155248780
amusingly I've done a few warehouse raids where I go as nonlethal as I can yet I haven't gotten a single one yet at least 3 medics.

>>155249053
they aren't in warehouses

capture everyone in a landed

Does getting a kill with a hatchet throw not trigger Untouchable? Or does the kill have to be the last action done?

>>155251158
pretty sure its just the hatchets

wew

Does open xcom work well with TFTD?

>>155245731
how many mods do you have?
and also how much ram?

i had a similar issue until i installed more ram on my machine

Now this looks like a magnificent enemy to fight against
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=766768567

>>155257403
I like that they added new autopsy research to them too, even LW didn't bother with that

EW guy here: All your guys' tips worked wonderfully i'm having a blast doing really well in the tacical portion. In the base portion however, I dont understand how you're supposed to keep up with weaponry, satellites, sat uplinks etc. I don't have that good of weapons and four countries have already left the council...I just picked up that japanese yakuza guy.

>>155261552
to add: It just seems I never have enough money to balance between satellites, upgrades and satellite up links, that and satellites take forever to buiild

There's a difference between kills and stuff when it comes to soldiers earning exp right?

Because I have this one bad bitch who it took somewhere around 90 kills to hit Colonel, and then there's this guy who just hit it with 40 kills

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>>155208472
>>155208347
I mean. I'm not the artist. And you do have a point. But I still found it funny that you guys got slightly triggered over my post. And >>155207195

>>155261552
Heya, glad to hear that everything is going more or less smoothly. Long War will do that to you. Don't be too afraid of losing countries because you can always take them back later, as long as you manage to hold on to what you've got. Long War Impossible can be kind of fickle about what you're 'allowed' to do in the strategic game, because the air game is straight fucked and a lot of suboptimal progression will see you getting outpaced by alien research. Hell, I forget if JL got so turbomad over people doing early landed larges if you can safely pass them up anymore. Anyway, you want to focus on satellites. If you can only do one thing, do satellites. Lock your continent down, and pray to RNG that the aliens didn't pick your continent to start on otherwise you may have to settle for another one's bonus. Weaponry is important but ultimately secondary because you can do a lot with ballistic weapons and veteran troops. Abuse shotguns, take HEAT ammo where you can, hell, start subbing in battle rifles if you gotta. A lot of players do what's called a Gauss rush where you completely ignore laser weaponry and hold out until Gauss weapons become available to you, so have confidence in your ability to make it with basic armaments. Beam lasers are still pretty useful because they confer an aim bonus on Long War, though.

And you can lasers to your blueshirts in base defense missions, but not Gauss iirc.

>>155262406
>>155261552
Addendum to this, to explain some hidden but important mechanics of Long War. "Lost" nations you should consider to be merely occupied by the aliens. You can drive them out by conducting a base assault there. This also means that territory is serving to produce resources for the aliens. It might be confirmation bias on my part, but they tend to target nations neighboring the one that they 'start' in (you'll notice a country leave the council randomly in the first month or so), and lock down continents the same way the player does. You can gauge alien resource level by the kinds of troops they deploy, and more reliably by the amount of meld you're getting per canister. You start seeing like 15 or 16 meld and then it drops to 9 or 8, get your ass ready because the aliens just spent a ton of cash on something. You'll know you're kicking their ass when you see 3-4 meld per canister and they're running eco rounds of nothing but Sectoids in August.

With four bases active in your own campaign, the aliens are likely pretty comfy, and you can expect to be dealing with a few more terror missions than normal, but it's nothing to be too worried about.

>>155262406
awesome, thanks. I also feel like i'm not getting enough money ever to even keep up with satellites. Whats the best form of income? Just selling unnecessary supplies?

>>155262813
Selling sweet, sweet Meld can get you through a lot of stuff but there's also some VERY high cost alloy/fragment/meld upgrades in the late game so you want to be very careful how much of your stock you liquidate. Also, try to fulfill council requests. They're practically worthless in the base game, but in LW they can net you tons of cash and serve as your primary source of engineers.

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>>155263960
overview i took for some reason

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>>155264108
place is pretty at least. even if it is on fire.

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>>155264257
time to start removal

>>155227197
I don't recognize this face model. Where did you get it from?

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>>155264397
thank god for that freeze bomb I decided to bring along

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>>155264547
removed

>>155254332
Haven't played it myself, but it is fully-supported.

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>>155264728
well golly gee gosh, I wonder if one of these is a faceless?

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>>155264886
and then this runs right in off my flank

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>>155265025
well what do ya know

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>>155265297

>>155183563
>He doesn't take one phantom ranger and five snipers

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>>155265519
REMOVE

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>>155265723
REMOVAL

Also hilarious this came up on my playlist just now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1BDGqIfm8U

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>>155265905
ABOLISH

>>155216201
They're animals, so who gives a shit.

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>>155266031
DELETE

>>155266095
*genetically modified alien abominations

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>>155266175
DISCARD

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>>155266302
ERASE

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>>155266397
EXPEL

I don't get the viper hate meme, I know they are servants of the villains, but genocide isn't the answer, I mean what happens when the leaders are toppled and the troops have no orders

>>155266543
Then they're still aliens on my god damn planet who will most likely continue trying to kill humans.

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>>155266507
FUCK I'M RUNNING OUT OF SYNONYMS FOR 'REMOVE'

>>155266641
http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/remove

>>155266543
They are probably still brainwashed versions of what used to be their original species, modified to unflinchingly serve the Ethereals as slaves, just like Advent soldiers are.

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>>155266641
ELIMINATE

>>155266543
When the battle's done.

When the war is won.

They'll all be dead my son.

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>>155266843
FUGGIN SNEKS

>>155266843
>>155266696
>>155266596
you're still advocating Genocide, I don't understand the merit of extinction what is ultimately a victim

>>155266991
You can't rehabilitate a rabid animal, you put it down.

>>155266991
I'm not sure what part of "They're still violent aliens on my home planet" you don't understand.

This is like advocating that we should let the Xenomorph from Alien just exist if it got out on Earth, because hey, wouldn't want to genocide it, right?

>>155267060
I don't believe anything is beyond repair or saving, and even if that was the case I dislike the... enthusiasm, taking way too much pleasure in slaughtering the enslaved

>>155266696
actually, in the final mission of EU, didnt the uber ethereal said that the thin men and by extension the vipers where the only race that where willing to serve them?

>>155267126
sapient life is not "all evil" or all violent, the xenomoprhs are literal animals, and not even naturally existing ones given what we know of them, they have no past

>>155267136
>I don't believe anything is beyond repair or saving

This is objectively wrong. Have fun getting murdered by the aliens.

Don't worry, we'll protect you, whether you want us to or not.

Also, hell yeah I'm enthusiastic about ridding Earth of the INVADING ALIENS

>>155267136
Advent sympathizer pls, prepare to be removed

>>155267247
I don't sympathize with ADVENT's Regime and the Etherials can fuck right off, I'm just trying to approach rationally that the servant races don't deserve what happened to them

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>>155266991
>>155267126
>>155267136
>>155267216
Go watch or read Dark Knight returns. You are literally this piece of human garbage.

>>155267390
I'm not sure you meant to include >>155267126 in there.

>>155267390
I don't read or watch anything by Frank Miller or inspired by his works, He is human garbage

>>155267136
I'm with you. The anons here who yell about killing all collaborators and such unsettle me more than that.

Won't even get into morality, but the practicality and long-term consequences of it bother me. Unless your genocide is total, and you'd be surprised at how hard that is, you're just encouraging terrorism and rebellion in the survivors. It just perpetuates violence.

>>155267380
Snek sympathizer pls, prepare to be removed

>>155267380
you're missing the point, XCOM is not a setting where non-evil aliens exist, it is a setting where even if enslaved they were assholes before and should not be mourned, human kind are the only good guys in the universe and all other life is to be heroically destroyed

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>>155267452
I WILL FUGGIN CUT YOU

Shit on the movies all you want, but he made some great graphic novels

>>155267454
The Morality of it is YOU ARE AN ALIEN. ON MY PLANET. GET OFF IT.

If you brought your entire race to my planet, that isn't my problem. Should've thought about not doing that before invading.

>>155267580
No he didn't, he didn't even get super man or batman at all

>>155267454
To genocide all the aliens wouldn't be difficult. Collaborators would mostly be killed in the early stages, the rest would go into hiding.

>>155267136
>>155266991
>>155266543
>>155267380
>>155267454
not sure if this is serious or many layers deep into sarcasm

>>155267586
this is the attitude that will just turn humans into the big bad aliens that are killing all the other races, and for even less reason then our enemies

>>155267568
that is so stupid I cant even see strait

>>155267659
Oh you're just some butthurt supes fanboy, and he nailed Batman. Not to mention revitalized what was about to be a dead franchise.

>>155267717
I'm just trying to approach the situation with a sense of basic decency, not "once an enemy always an enemy" that shit is what led to WW2

>>155267783
let me guess, you think superman is a crappy character who should be forgotten?

>>155267852
These idiots are just Warhammer 40k grimderp fanboys who have never seen real war. I don't have any hope they'll see the lessons of history. I just hope they're not going to cause problems IRL.

>>155267776
Hardly. If I were advocating going to there planet, sure. But they invaded. So they can deal with the consequences. Not my fault they chose to INVADE. EARTH.

Invasive species are a problem that need to be removed. This isn't a wildlife conservation effort. This is war. If they are born able to kill people, as they demonstrably are, then there is no legal age to which I need to adhere when killing them. If their entire race, every male, female, and child, is capable of killing a full grown soldier by spitting poison in his face or breaking his neck with their tail, then I am fully justified in killing every single one on the god damn planet. If they didn't want it to be a genocide, they shouldn't have started systematically killing humans, and they shouldn't have brought their whole species here.

>>155267659
You take that back. That Yellow Bastard, and The Hard Goodbye are some of the best paced GNs of all time.

>>155267957
And then there's you. The kind of person who would most likely betray humanity given the first opportunity were we to ever actually be invaded by aliens.

>>155267126
I say we nuke 'em from orbit. Only way to be sure.

>>155267927
No I like supes.

>>155267961
but thats part of the issue, they aren't even the ones who brought their species over, it was the REAL assholes who seem to want to become us. and while EU calls them the "Most Loyal" that is a nebulous term, could mean anything from "they are all slaverying willing fanatics" to "initially welcoming enough to be brainwashed fully" or just mean they were more susceptible to control, hence the lack of the gift

>>155267852
>>155267957
You guys are fucking stupid, trying to apply a real sense of morality to a completely fantastical situation

and yeah, when someone commits utter genocide upon you, you don't give them much of a break in return.

>>155268123
but you like DKR which depicted him as an imbecile detached from humanity who never had a hard day in his life until batgod knocked him around a bit?


In fairness I'm just a bit fed up with batman these days and that might be coloring my perceptions.... I like batman in general but what's being done with him latley has bothered the crap out of me and I should just bitch to /co/ at this point

>>155268152
Look. If they willingly line up to be deported back to whatever shitty planet they came from when the Etherals are dead, good for them. They can go. But somehow I don't see the oversized killing machines being so open to that suggestion. Based on what we've seen in game there's no evidence to how they'd behave one way or the other, given that option.

Based on what we have seen, however, I'm inclined to believe they'd be more likely to try to carve out a new home here by force. Which is not acceptable.

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>>155267852
>>155267957
There's nothing redeemable about the aliens. They were designed as tools only to be wielded by the ethereals. It's no different then disarming a bomb or removing mines.
Save your "moral" ambiguity for ADVENT Clone Troopers who actually exist in a gray area.

>once an enemy always an enemy" that shit is what led to WW2
Horrible comparison. WWI was not perpetuated by any single nation. There wasn't actually a good or bad side, or moral implications to the conflict. The Nazis didn't get to "co-exist" after WWII. Many were put on trial and the rest either fled or bent the knee. In XCOM you have one evil alien power mercilessly attacking earth and threatening all of humanity with genocide. Only the ethereals still have independent thought, and all they care about is saving themselves.

>>155267852
since you are serious this is the why

before some people in this general used to talk highly of advent and how they couldn't do no wrong and xcom a terrorist and so fort but they specially liked to post about their viper waifus, this caused some other people to pick the opposite side of the argument and reply with equally radical against advent and how vipers deserved to be slain thats also why the beef its mostly against vipers. Also there might be some 40K vibes mixed in.

in conclusion: just chill, dont take it too seriously the games where clearly made from an action movie perspective where the aliens are Satan and humanity the underdog hero against all odds and shit like that, we are just having some fun about it

>>155268250
Yeah you're taking it out of context, You gotta remember DKR was the OG Bats v Supes story.

and Supes was not portrayed as an idiot, he was deeply conflicted and had a sense of regret of how things had happened, but also a sense of duty for the task assigned to him.

>>155268297
Hi Trump

Joking aside I guess i just have trouble believing there is any time or place to put aside morals of any kind, if anything I'm annoyed the games don't show more angles on the matter, leaving it all black and white never asking the player to wonder what the aliens are aside from another enemy to kill and dissect for goodies.... Early Mass Effect and Star trek have Ruined me

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Ignore ADVENT apologists, post guns you'd like to see added to the game so you can kill aliens with them..