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>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses
Previous Thread >>154965084
>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr (embed) (embed)

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv (embed) (embed)

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj (embed) (embed)

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX (embed) (embed)

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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>Henryk's set has more Beasthood than Gascoigne's

Why though?
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So how much of a disadvantage would I be at if I only had Fishing Hamlet gems at the fight club?
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>>155157878
A somewhat large one, but I got by just fine. END Yourself will bully you because you probably can't one-shot him, but otherwise it's alright.
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The One Reborn is even easier in NG+ than he was the first time.
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>>155158032
who were you?
>>155157878
Depends on the build
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>>155158979
I'm using chikage
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>>155159063
probably won't do too hot unless you gunspam
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>>155158979
The Doll

Wasn't there yesterday, but two weeks ago half my deaths were really stupid mistakes in my opinion. So I'd say I was fine.
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>>155159115
>the doll
Well, your gems aren't the problem but they didn't help you out
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>>155159063
>doing a BLT for FC and having hamlet gems in a chikage
Yeah, you'll be pretty fucked.
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>>155159109
>>155159339
Shit I really wasn't looking forward to the thought of farming for off-shape gems well wish me luck
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>>155159753
You can be fine with 27.2%, especially if you're a Skill/BLT hybrid, it's advised. 31.5% gems are a huge undertaking and while they add a huge chunk of additional damage, especially compared to hamlet gems, they're only worth it for pure BLT builds.
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Anyone remember where in the upper cathedral ward the cosmic eye watcher badge is? This area triggers me so hard with the brainsuckers and roided out werewolves god damn...
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Give me a more fuckin metal area name in all of Souls than Graveyard of the Darkbeast and Cursed Pthumerian Defilement.
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>>155160125
>a huge chunk of additional damage
Is the difference really that extreme? I'm not the fag you were talking to, nor have I been involved in the conversation at all to this point, but it just doesn't seem like THAT big a deal. But I might not know what I'm talking about.
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>>155160353
Kek Protip: I can't
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>>155160271
I think it's along one of the halls to the right of the area, where that Brainsucker wanders. I don't remember if it's in the upper or lower path, though.
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>>155160459
With three 31.5% gems as opposed to 27% gems, that's an entire 13.5% more. I'd say that's pretty noteworthy.
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>>155160637
Right as in to the right of what? Like from what point of view, like if you're facing the building from outside?
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>>155160459
Well, it's 3 27.2% gems compared to 3 31.5% gems, which is 12.9% additional damage.
Ultimately, it depends how badly you want that extra damage.
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>>155160818
On addition I will make: If using a bow blade (exclusively for the bow) or a lost chikage, the difference will drop to 8.6% damage since they have access to a circular gem slot.

If you're planning on using the bloodletter, you won't be as fortunate.
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>>155160802
Facing the building from the outside.

As in, as soon as you enter the big, central room with the chandelier, it's in the path straight ahead through that locked door.
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>>155160353
>Road of Sacrifices
>Crucifixion Woods
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>>155160125
How long are we can anyone who has done it or at least tried give me a conservative estimate.
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>>155161243
Drop rate of off shape gems is about 1.5%, off those you need 18 rating gems, of those they need to not be "warm" gems and of those, they need to have a usable curse.
I'm at about 2,000 kills and have only gotten 1 radial 31.5% with kin down (beast down is also fine)
2 radial 31.5% with stamina down
1 Triangle 31.5% with stamina down
The rest weren't usable.
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>>155161078
Got it thanks dude. I love how you can cheese the wolves by pulling them back to the doorway they can't get into.
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>>155161445
Damn that's worse than I was expecting, what about the speed for each kill could I say manage manage about that if I had the patience to grind for a whole day?
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>>155162130
For a quick run, I average 45 seconds. For a 3.0 USB savescum, I average 1m 15s.
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Hey, who's up for some Living Fayylures?

We can bully Maria too.

Ringing at the door to LF. Password is bbg.
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>>155162539
>Living Fayylures
I found this funnier than I should have
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>>155161445
>>155162130
Just picked up this, first waning 31.5% without attack down or hp depletes curse.
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FUCKING FINALLY BEAT ORHPAN
HOLY SHIT THAT WAS A GOOD BOSS FIGHT
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>>155163115
Did you solo him? I gave up and got help from /bbg/. Only boss I did that for on my first playthrough.
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>>155163115
When I finally soloed Orphan I ran out and screamed from my balcony then jumped around like an autist until I scratched my knee up pretty up.

What a feeling.
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>>155163859
yep. I came pretty close to it, but when nobody came for a good 5 minutes I gave up and went back to solo.
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>tfw you ace something that gave you a lot of trouble in your previous playthrough

Beast Claw is pretty baller, dunno why crowfag didn't chug though.
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>>155164210
>tfw you farm early on and hit the DLC as soon as possible and have a +10 weapon with 22.3% physical gems and you go fight the shadows of yahrnam
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>>155164397
>mfw fighting Amelia with a +6 fire saw spear at level 50 with 40 arc
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>>155164674
>tfw using a +6 Flamesprayer on her
She went into a visceral position within 3 seconds
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Anybody need help from a lvl 4? :^)
Available anywhere accept the DLC and FRC dungeons ;_;
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Is the beast claw any good, fampaitachi?
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>>155166297
Ask Lady Maria.
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>>155166389
What did he mean by this?
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>>155166865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPWKhOKwb7E
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Helping a friend take on defiled Amy. Anyone wanna join? Pass is 1qaz2wsx

Disclaimer: he's not the best at the game so only come if you have some patience
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>>155167551
I didn't get that fight at all. I was helped by two anons from here that made it look easy. Why such a fucked up pass though?
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>>155167696
It's just the first column of the keyboard plus the second column haha

Yeah this is one of the hardest in the game in my opinion. Two anons from Bbg helped me too
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>>155167551
Not exactly sporting, but I can solo it for you if you want.
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>>155167874
Looking for some teamwork if you're interested hahaha
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>>155168043
Alright, give me 5 minutes. I'll tell you when I'm ringing.
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>>155168043
>>155168093
Ok, ringing through SRRC
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>>155168043
Is your friend beckoning?
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>>155168392
>>155168715
Sorry, had connection problems, ringing now
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>>155169323
Not getting you
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>>155169943
Dang ok no worries. Gotta get off soon to go to bed anyway. Thanks anyway
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Does the dank memelord Micolash get harder on NG+?
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I've got 30 vit and15 end with 10% and 15% stamina runes. Which should I level up? I'm level 84 now and I'm about to go in the defiled dungeon
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>>155171996
What are your other stats?

Also, no need to level END anymore, really.
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>>155171996
For clarity I have 50 skill and I'm using the saif and cane which is why my end is so low.

>>155170004
One shots with a call beyond if he didn't last playthrough
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>>155172163
other guy here
>>no need to level END anymore
shit really? I have 30 end, is that too much? is there a softcap?
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>>155172256
It isn't too much, you just had better shit to spend those points on. Don't worry about that shit unless you're perfecting a PvP character though. For PvE you can level as much as you need to.
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>>155172256
30 is definitely pushing it.

The stamina consumption for dodging and most weapons in BB is so low that 20 is really the most you should ever have, and even that is a bit excessive. Stamina runes are useful because they don't require you to waste levels on END.
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>>155172212
Level VIT.
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>>155171820
Hmm, the answer is yes. His Augur of Ebrietas hits hard af.
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So, what's the trick when it comes to OoK. Sometimes it feels like I'm doing pretty well against him but then he proceeds to rape me with his placenta blade thingy.
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>>155173005
My trick was to ring in /bbg/. But that doesn't answer your question. So no I really don't know. I fought him plenty of times before giving in and never even came close to winning. He's brutal.
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Savescumming on a lvl 4 playthrough, what's your thoughts on this? To make each attempt at a boss not waste any paper/pellets per attempt. Would you consider this 'cheating' ?
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>>155173005
He's designed to fuck with everything you know about dodging. He's a right bastard to fight, but he's a great fine. You have to be fast, diagonally dodging works much better than dodging in or out.

In his second phase, you can dodge the lightning pretty well in the water, but if you run right to the entrance of the arena, it straight up can't touch you.
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>>155173449
I have no idea what you even just said so I can't answer your question
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>>155173629
>replying anyway
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>>155173449
I think some purists would and I can understand why, but for fuck's sake some of the stuff at BL4 is insane, we can't all be Korean.

So don't worry anon, even though we would have never known had you never told us, it's fine.
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>>155173449
well, if the point is a challenge you're sort of bitching out by making it easier for yourself but it's not like anyone is gonna call the bloodborne police on you for doing it
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>>155174114
>you're sort of bitching out by making it easier for yourself
Is doesn't seem any different than farming echoes/insight to buy more buffs, should I run out.
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>>155174291
except that it's easier and less punishing to run out of vials and bullets if you can just reload than if you have to farm for them
you seem to be pretty set on doing this so just do it no one will care
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>>155174405
True, but it's not exactly difficult to farm, just time consuming.
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>>155174573
yeah it's not going to make the game more difficult but it will incentivize you to try not to waste resources more than savestates do
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What's your favorite ending, /bbg/? And why?
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>>155175435
Becoming the new host of the Dream. I like the idea of being the wise old hunter in the wheelchair keeping the hunt alive by helping any thirsty hunter that comes along. I'll also be their epic boss fight at the end of their hunt.
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>tfw trying to name characters
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>>155175435
Yharnam Sunrise. It's a boring ending, but the only one which presents any kind of positive outcome for your hunter. You wake up, freed from the dream, the nightmare of blood and beasts is over, you did some monumental things that you can now forget because it's stuff man was not meant to know.

Becoming the new Gehrman is a terribly tragic ending and the most futile, all your actions were seemingly for not. You're now a slave to the Nightmare and the nameless Moon Presence. You're going to sit in that chair for countless eons and rot and your memory fade like Gehrman's.

Becoming a squid is the most interesting, and most risky. You achieved what Byrgenwerth and the Church never could, you became a squid and seemingly have achieved the evolution sought by so many now dead madmen. But of course that's just a human perspective on it. Do you really, truly know exactly what you've done? Or what you've become? All for the loss of your humanity, to embrace the Nightmare and the alien horror that has now consumed three civilizations. Will you perpetuate it? End it? Misuse it? Fix it? Who knows. Alternatively, you played right into someone's hands and become the Nightmare Newborn, the surrogate child for the Doll, or who even knows, Oedon.
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>>155176770
Do what I do - have a roster of pre-packaged names you like to choose from that can fit any occasion, genre or game. I use Kastaine, Tobias, Sophia and Sabbak as my go to names for stuff. Kastaine is gender neutral and sounds cool, Tobias for men, Sophia for women and Sabbak for fantasy/alien shit.
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>>155176853
How's Yharnam in that ending anyway? I can never get a concrete answer.
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Hunters axe- easier time dealing with mobs + range is useful for a lot of situations

Saw cleaver - Kills bosses very quickly with 20% extra damage to beasts + fire paper + beast blood pellet and decent attack speed

threaded cane - if you want to hunt with style

prove me wrong bros
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is rakuyo worth going into NG+ to upgrade? i'm level 43 and i've exhausted all means of chucks minus chalice dungeons.
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>>155176990
Based Tobias
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>>155176770
Take what type of character it is (ARC, BLT, etc) or what weapons it uses and try to work around that.
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Can someone post the edited comic of Micolash making the dog chimeras for no reason?
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>>155178542
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>>155176770
the Bible and Lovecraft are both excellent places to borrow names from for this game
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>>155177537
The city's fucked, the Mensis ritual utterly destroyed it, but it's all over now. Hunter's Dream no longer ensnares hunters, Church is probably ruined, too.
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>>155177591
Cane has range + speed + serrated in tricked mode, at the cost of the higher damage dealt by Cleaver and Axe. Added to that, becomes excellent in the later game with a Skill build. Cane isn't just style, my man.
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>>155178542
what was he trying to do with these things anyway?
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>yfw "One of your notes was rated fine."
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>>155181580
>just as you're about to die
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>sonyggers still only have one game

kek
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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/09/08/ps4-pro-the-ultimate-faq/

Q: Will I need to pay to update my existing PS4 game with new PS4 Pro features?

A: While nothing specifically prevents publishers and developers from this, we don’t anticipate it at this time. Software updates enabling PS4 Pro features on any existing first-party title (such as inFamous First Light or Uncharted 4) will be free.

>While nothing specifically prevents publishers and developers from this, we don’t anticipate it at this time.
>While nothing specifically prevents publishers and developers from this, we don’t anticipate it at this time.

paid online

paid patches

woah. so this is the power....
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>>155181949
I don't think FromSoft even gives enough of a shit about Bloodborne to do a major patch for it, but man that's such a fucky option to allow.
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>>155182004
you let this happen by supporting ps4

fag

paid patches

just wow
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>>155181580
>mfw I have a note rated +250
mfw it's "treat darling with care, eventually seduction waits ahead"
mfw it's next to Eileen
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>>155182040
I didn't even buy my ps4 or pay for Ps+ ! Th-they were given to me for christmas!
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>>155182106
not mine, but a pretty good note I found.
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>>155163096
durability down is best curse
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Anyone want to go hoonting?
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>>155182419
level 50 here, where
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>>155182337
That's pretty good.

Btw.. you mind showing what your character looks like?
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>>155182474
uhhh idc. But I'm 135. We could farm for bloodgems I guess. Wish there was a more exploratory aspect to the chalice dungeons.
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>>155182568
>135
burger build

no thanks

im not interested in playing with retards who lack imagination or character
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>>155182495
B-but I'll get bullied again! I don't really care, it's fine. I love making characters but holy shit the Souls character sliders are something to behold in terms of actually making them look somewhat decent.
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>>155182636
Probably has more character than your shitty "twink" build.
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well I think the Research Hall has definitely earned a space on my "Hated Areas" list, which might be a record as I've barely gone into it, seriously though fuck the Research Hall Patients, assholes suck to fight
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>>155182719
I roll over 80+ with level 100+ coopers all the time in cainhurst

optional area optional coop.

I got a nasty 1 handed wheel bonashed repeater game.
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>>155182976
>criticizes someone to have no creativity in their build
>just puts gems to increase their AR
>just copies the same wheel build that has been shilled on this general since it's creation.
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>>155182640
>>155182337
I could tell it was ugly just by seeing that you're wearing the Knight set
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>>155183218
>>>just copies the same wheel build that has been shilled on this general since it's creation.

nice bait, show me 1 handed wheel builds

>just puts gems to increase their AR
So?
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>>155182106
>tfw my highest is rated 20
it says "no mercy for fatties", and it's right next to that alley in Hunter's Nightmare that hunters can't fit in
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found a pretty good Central Pthumerian Labyrinth dungeon that someone made, has both an Uncanny Saw Spear and a Uncanny Threaded Cane in it

Chalice Glyph: rn6b7xnk


and a Pthumerian Labyrinth that I generated that has an Uncanny Saw Cleaver in it

Chalice Glyph: yr5bpq5n
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>>155183346
Literally every other build of the general is a variation of a wheel build. Arcane or Phys.

And so that just shows you rely on a high damage weapon rather than being actually good.
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>>155182337
Whenever I see a longer than usual ladder, I always write "reminiscent of snake, oh, feasting!" at the top of it.
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>>155183310
>shitting on the Knight set
You can call my fuccboi ugly all you want but don't shit on one of the best looking outfits in the game.
>>155183567
What a thrill
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>>155183552
>Literally every other build of the general is a variation of a wheel build. Arcane or Phys

2 handed


i one hand, swap blows. walk chase and boneash parry the heal

>rely on a high damage weapon

wew lad

You make burger builds that can afford to use gimmick gems.
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quick question, is there any benefit to making a Chalice Dungeon Fetid?
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>>155183696
>bone ash parry
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>>155183952
Depends on the Glyph and what treasures are inside of it.
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>>155183989
>bone ashed gun
>parry their heal

if they aint dead they are riposted.

if you are the burger boy, post your build.

ill instantly laugh at the following

>any investment into Endurance
>using a 2 handed weapon while having high bloodtinge
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How's the Burial Blade anons? Is there any way to get it early, was thinking of doing a chalice only run and it's one of the weapons I've never used that much because it's post-game.
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>>155184291
Only way to get it is by killing Gerhman and buying it from the bath.
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>>155184691
>depth 5 root chalices
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>>155184691
>>155184763

Damnit. Can't trade weapons like in Dark Souls either?
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>>155185115
nope
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>>155185115
nope

but you can use cloud saves and profile xfer or shareplay to get some1 else to grind for u
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>>155182719
you never came back,.
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>>155184291
You can get an Uncanny Burial Blade in Lower Loran, without killing Gehrman.
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Anyone awake?
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Who impregnated Arianna and/or Iosefka?
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>>155183952
Fedid makes certain enemies have buffs, and also drop better gems. Including stuff like Laberynth Madmen who can drop the best gems in the game for certain setups due to x2 effect on the secondary.

Rotted just summons bosses as wandering mobs, and since nothing they drop is ever useful because the actual boss drops better versions, there's no point in ever doing this Rite as far as I know. Just makes dungeons hard to complete with Witch's everywhere.
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>>155186227
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>>155186037
glyph?
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>>155186309
Check the OP. There's several.
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>>155186285
>bosses as wandering mobs
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Defiled is some fresh kind of evil. Does someone want to come along for the ride through this spooky, spooky place?
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ALRIGHT PINHEAD. YER TIME IS UP.
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>>155175862

If there were to be a second game, I'd really dig it if it read your first game's save file, and made one of your characters that beat the first game the new host of the dream for the second.
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So having done the whole arcane build thing (Once as pure arc, then again with enough to use the wheel and other weapons) I'm interested in doing a BLT build. Am I better off going mostly skill, mostly bloodtinge, having just enough physical to use the 3 bloodtinge dedicated weapons, or what? And what sort of gems do I need? I can't remember if phys attack up boosts BLT damage or if it's Attack up
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Any way I can have a Bow Blade + HMS build?
Stats?
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>>155189457
Anyone whose answered me on the matter has said 14/15/50, because that will let you use Chikage, Simon's Funblade, and Bloodletter.
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>>155187254
someone should dump the pics and WEBM's that show Watchdog, Keeper, and Pthumerian HMPH all showing up as normal enemies(of course even without Rotted you'll get things like Undead Giants or Beast Possessed Souls showing up as normal enemies)
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>>155189909
>Watchdog ... Pthumerian HMPH ... as normal enemies
Color me totally incredulous. I refuse to believe it. Not least because Watchdog wouldn't fit anywhere except the larger outdoor-looking rooms.
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So what's the deal with Amygdalan Arm?

I'm planning a Str/Blt build, but so far it's leaving me with a sour taste in my mouth.The Arm seems fun, and useful for crowd control, but I don't know how it looks at +10 and gemed, or whether the slit damage hurts it very much.
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>>155189617
Pls respond
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>>155189868

See as far as that goes, I do get it, but at the same time I do want to be able to use some weapons outside of just their bloodtinge damage form, since most forms have downsides that don't necessarily compliment eachother

https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/18950

Now I made a build, which works on the basis of having access to the three main BLT weapons, and of course getting the most out of their transformed modes.

But with having just that little bit more in the skill stat, I feel I might be able to get more out of, say, the Chikage and Bowblade, be a little less easy to predict and work around

Although I'm caught between going 18 END/20 Skill incase of poison builds, or just going 13 END/25 to hit the softcap and deal with having less combos and having to play more cautiously in PvP

Or, of course, you know, just say fuck it and go 117 and be a bit of a dick
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>>155190137
It's fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWLj55w64FY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbsdbwoMLCc
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>>155190235

Another benefit of the skill increase is, of course, being able to get the most out of my visceral attacks
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>>155190235
>https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/18950
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure you can't wear, or even possess, two of the same Rune. Maybe see if my tweaks don't hurt.
To be honest though, I don't see the benefit of 20Skill.
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>>155190440
Oops, staying Military Vet saves two levels.

Again, not a professional.
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>>155190440

Ah, yea, the second one is meant to be the clockwise metamorphosis

As for the skill, I'm most likely gonna lower my END and get it to soft cap, mostly for the increased amount of useful weapons and not having to rely completely on the bloodtinge forms of my main weapons (especially with the bowblades apparently rather good stat scaling)

And getting that little bit extra from visceral attacks since I'm told that skill increases their damage. Which with a build that uses guns so effectively would likely be a bonus, even if only as far as cheesing certain chalice bosses
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>>155190440
>>155190627
>>155190995

Also, as far as the communion rune over the second clockwise rune goes, it just gives me access to that many more blood bullets
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>>155190235

What I am mainly interested in learning is what sort of gems I want to be going for. I mean there's a picture in the OP of all things dedicated to spoonfeeding people on arcane builds but I couldn't really find anything detailing the best gems for the weapons I'd be using (Chikage, Bloodletter, Bowblade. Reiterpallasch)

Guns are easy, since I'll just be going for HP regen on them, but this is new territory for me as far as weapons go, since the only one of those I've actually used before is the bowblade, at a very low level
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>>155191058
My logic is that Blood Bullets already give you a nigh-limitless supply of ammo, where as if you eat an attack and die that could otherwise have left you with a sliver of HP, the fight's over and having the extra bullets didn't do you any good.

But I mean, everyone uses Clock, Clock, Anti-Clock. You do you.
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>>155191236
Blood is counted as, and thus benefits from, Physical Damage Gems. So the best slot setup is Radial, Radial, Triangle for just nabbing Tempering Gems and getting the best of both weapon's forms. If/when you want to branch into full Blood mode, Radial, Triangle, Circular might be the best setup, since Blood attack gems can hit 31%, as opposed to 27%.
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>>155191426

Oh fantastic, thank you so much man
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How to use BowBlade and MoonSword on the same build?
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>>155191536
No problem. Good luck.
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>>155191616
240
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>>155192370
As in BL240?
No way I can use gems to convert scaling?
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>>155190009
>Not least because Watchdog wouldn't fit anywhere except the larger outdoor-looking rooms
I've seen the WEBM's, the one with Watchdog was posted within the last 5-6 threads I believe, so some Archive trawling might bring it up, and yeah I imagine Watchdog only shows up in the largest rooms, like that huge Poison Swamp one in the initial Hintertomb Fixed Dungeon that has a Cannon Giant in it
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Welp, seems like the only weapons in BB that I enjoy are the Rakuyo and HMLS.

Time to go 117, combine builds, and stop lying to myself.
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>>155192370
Would this work?
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>>155177591
Cleaver is actually the best crowd control weapon if you're gud. HAxe is for people who want to gorilla mash with super armor and huge rally. Alternatively, people who don't know how to play Souls games, but read on their favorite trophy guide website that charge R2 makes the game totally easy.

Cleaver is for people who have good fundamentals and bland taste.

Cane is for if you want a maximum safety kiting playstyle.

>>155176853
If you can stand hipster guys and some minor lore fuck-ups, this video has an interesting analysis of the endings, and how they play into the cosmic horror genre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9BmlbLGUM
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>>155192398
Yeah, BL 240.

You can't convert Bloodtinge to Arcane scaling, or vice-versa. So making a Bloodtinge/Arcane hybrid build is tuff.

>>155193015
It'll work, but the bow's arrows will be kinda weak.
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>>155177591
Whenever I invade someone with an Axe in Frontier or Mensis I just laugh. You just know it'll be a breeze.
>mfw he starts charging when I'm not even I range and I have my gun out
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>>155177591
Axe sucks, Cleaver's great but Spear's just as good or better, Cane is for faggots.
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HOLY FUCK I CANT EVEN FUCKING FIGHT THIS CUNT
WHEN I JUMP INTO THE SECOND ROOM HE DOES THIS MAGIC BULLSHIT AND BAM IM DEAD
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
REREEEREEEREEEEREEREEEE
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>>155193862
iktfb
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>>155193862
Plunge attack.
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>>155193934
he dodges
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>>155193934
Not that anon but I've literally never seen that work. He hides in the corner well out of reach of any weapon I've tried to score one with, and 90% of the time the wake-up is just long enough to let him start his ACB spam.
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>bloodborne will never get another dlc or update
>there will never be another bloodborne game

how do you deal with it?
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>>155193991
Really? He always sits right in the center of the room for me. I plunge attack 100% of the time and almost never miss him.
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>>155194052
Yeah not me. Always in the corner. I've had days like that anon where I'll jump in and he'll immediately start ACBing, even right in my face. Fucker's like two superLudwigs when he's like that.

>>155194034
I play myself sick of it and then forget for a few weeks.
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>>155194052
he just dodges it for me
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How the fuck do people have trouble with Micolash? I killed him without using a single blood Vial, got hit like once. He was easier than the Witches.
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>>155195595

Near as I can tell it's mostly down to luck, if he gets to the point where he's able to spam ACB for whatever reason you basically have to restart
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Does Ludwig's Rifle fire a spread or a single projectile?
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>>155197346
A tight spread desu.
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>>155197450
So the only actual rifle is the Piercing Rifle?
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>>155197560
Yeah, now that you mention it it's true
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>>155197685
Has anyone done the numbers on interrupting tools?

I wanted to use Ludwig's 'cause it's comparatively big rather than a pistol on my Strength build. I'm still considering whether raise Bloodtinge at all, but I have to to use Piercing or Ludwig's. If their timings are bad I'll just stick with 7 'Tinge and forget it.
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>>155190009
That only happens in Hintertomb dungeons, in these swampy rooms that are huge and can house multiple bosses.
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>>155197803
Honestly if you go STR I wouldn't bother with Viscerals at all, you'll do shit damage since it's rather by SKL and won't be able to use the most effective STR weapons in their best two-handed movesets.
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>>155197803
All guns shoot at the same speed, however some guns have longer recovery time, the longest (not including the cannons) being ludwigs and the piercing rifle, shortest being the evelyn
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>>155197926
I didn't think I'd miss being able to interrupt until I started playing the build. The gatling gun does shit and I can't afford to use the cannon too liberally. I'm basically stuck doing footsies and either R1 mashing or getting backstabs.

>>155198030
Ah, hm. How's the range on Ludwigs? Stylistically I don't hate the Blunderbuss, but its range makes me want to kill myself.
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>>155198102
Ludwig has the same range as Blunder.

Ludwig's Rifle is probably the worst gun in the game, des
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>>155198102
the range is really good on ludwigs, it's the real benefit it has over the blunderbus
the best no-bt investment parry tool is the hunter's pistol but if you want a longer pistol the evelyn requires like 18bt or something and isn't worth it until over 25bt so you're stuck using something suboptimal like ludwigs.
As for parrying being shit on an str build, just burrito in pvp and in pve just use two attacks or charge an r2 with a fast weapon like a saw cleaver
>>155198289
It does not
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>>155198289
Oh, bummer.

If it fires a tight spread I don't understand why it wouldn't have the same range as a pistol. That sucks.
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>>155198348
I'm only looking to use Whirligig, Amy Arm, and Kirkhammer. But thanks for the clarification on Ludwig's. The two points in Bloodtinge I need for it are essentially free. I don't know why I'm being so apprehensive.
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>>155198348
>Hunter's axe
>Yharnam Hunter clothes
Stop bullying newbies anon
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>>155198713
yeah he was a basic bitch but that build is 110, maybe he shouldn't be at that level range in the nightmare frontier
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>>155198828
He probably overleveled
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>Collect three umbilical cords
>Tell Gehrman to kill me anyway

Who here /devilish/?
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>>155194034
Fromsoft cant do sequels, so its fine
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>>155200298
>Give Alfred the invitation to cainhurst
>Become executioner
>Ressurect Annalise
MOM'S GONNA FREAK
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What's everyone doing?
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>>155201410
Its been two days and i cant kill mikolash
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>>155200298
>Rescue Arianna
>Keep her alive until she gives birth to deformed Old Ones baby
>Leave her there alive to raise her monstrous spawn in neverending spawn

roasties btfo
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>>155201503
consider suicide
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>>155201531
i beat every other boss in 2 or 3 trys but miconigger keeps instakilling me right before i can stand up during the second fight
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>>155201503
How the fuck are you struggling with meme incarnate?
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Is anybody in need of some jolly co-operation? Any area, any level
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>>155201721
just get him to clip through the wall and then shoot him for an instakill, anon. it's easy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_kTdtG99dQ&list=PLiYb6m4BDOeAkCrsOP2TSrMaNk5i8QBVq&index=21
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I've got 6 vials left and I'm rarin' ta' go

Ringing a Paarl's fog with the pass Vit, capital V
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>>155206191
Disregard this, Paarl's rekt
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>>155193862 I DID IT NIGGERS
I FUCKING R1 SPAMMED THE CUNT INTO THE CORNER
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>>155206835
Congrats
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>>155206835
That's the ONLY way to do it, anon, meme the memer
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>invade with BLT build
>bone marrow +10 repeater
>lure the cooper to attack en enemy thats in the way, and shoot when he's mid animation
>one shot him 75% of the time

That trick always works, i don't know how people fall for it.
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>>155206980
Why repeater over evelyn?
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>I hit someone with BMA while they're distracted
smart
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Isn't Djura supposed to drop something when you shank his ass? I didn't knock him off the side, did a fair fight, but no item dropped. Or does the powder keg hunter badge drop as an item if you knock him off the side?
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>>155207181
For a single shot, it does more damage even at 50 BLT. I use it with BMA and then switch to Evelyn
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>>155207479
If you already befriended him, he gave it to you then and won't drop it upon death. Otherwise, he should drop it when he dies, regardless of how he died. Try reloading the game, it should be where he spawns.
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just beat bloodstarved beast, have no idea where to go
am I being retarded?
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when does the old hunters dlc start?
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>>155208776
Go back to cathedral ward lamp and look around
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>>155208776
no just go buy that key from hunters dream and open the gate guarded by the giant OR
go back to cathedral ward and now the door to the right should be open.
go up the lift around the tower and drop down.
from there you should find a pitt but i dont wanna spoil anymore
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>>155208785
Defeat the boss called Vicar Amelia, go back to the dream, there's an item waiting for you, take it and go to the Cathedral Ward lantern and take the left path out and go to where you find the Hunter set. Let yourself get grabbed.

The DLC is essentially its own separate area unconnected to the main game, you can go in and out whenever you wish (bar going into an NG+ cycle of course).

Be warned it is bastard hard and ideally you're going in there near the end of the game.
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>/dsg/
Jesus what a shitfest over there. Im glad this general exists
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>>155209198
im at the part where the hunters dream is on fire, what exactly is this item?
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>>155201160
I do this every playthrough and i have no idea why.....
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>>155209447
Messengers give it to you on the stairs leading to the building. Its a hunters eye
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>>155209447
It's Eye of a Blood-Drunk Hunter, it should be at the base of the stairs leading into the workshop, like right in front of you when you spawn in, beside the doll.
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>>155209779
i dont have it
should i go into ng++?
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>>155211050
Are you sure you properly downloaded the DLC? I thought once you defeat Vicar the item is available afterward no matter what....
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So hey guys, when are we merging with /dsg/?
So hey guys, when are we merging with /dsg/?
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>>155211313
Do you see /dsg/ right now? I dont want bloodborne to devolve into nothing but shitposting.
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>>155211050
You should be able to see it, try restarting your PS4 real quick, or restoring licenses. There's some info in the OP about the DLC.
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>>155211476
>I dont want bloodborne to devolve into nothing but shitposting.

It's too late, anon.
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Need your advice, boys. I've only ever played BB and loved it. Tried DS2 (Scholar) and it seemed really clunky and ugly. Couldn't enjoy it. Even though I'm not a huge fan of the whole medieval theme and I prefer BB's style of combat and atmosphere, would I like DS3? It seems less clunky than DS2.

I really want to get back to the series but I think BB may have ruined it for me.
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>>155212748
DaS3 is trash. It's a shitty PvE game that relies heavily on nostalgia to carry it, and they didn't care enough about the PvP to make it good.

It's a DaS1 protagonist fighting Bloodborne enemies with less interesting weapons and less interesting design overall.
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>>155212748
What>>155213002
Said, but i will add mechanically DS3 will feel like bloodborne more than any other; but not by much
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>>155212748
Dark Souls 2 is far and away the worst of the series. Some people think that it is just "bad for a Souls game" and some people, like me, think it's just outright bad.

DkS3 and DeS are the most similar to Bloodborne, in that they have relatively fast combat.

DkS1 has the best world design and NPC's, and is otherwise competent, if lacking compared to BB.
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>>155213002
Bloodborne enemies because they're faster? I've seen footage of DS1, seems really slow. And 2 is ugh.

>>155213324
>>155213549
Since I haven't played 1, would I hate 3 as much as so many seem to?
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>>155213961
3 is the second best game in the series. It's only lorenerds who hate it, because it copy/pastes some NPC's and location names from DkS1 as fan service (note: they have been doing this forever, actually, but nobody noticed with Dark Souls because it was their first FROM game).
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>>155213961
>Since I haven't played 1, would I hate 3 as much as so many seem to?
It's possible. You certainly won't enjoy the NPCs or themes as much.

If you liked BB, you should try DeS. If you like DeS, even a little bit, play DaS. You'll be able to appreciate the way the series evolved irrespective of BB. And when you come back to BB, you'll have an entirely new understand of where the game shines, and where it lacks.
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>>155213961
>Since I haven't played 1, would I hate 3 as much as so many seem to?

DS3 relies heavily on 'hey remember this thing from DS1?'. Honestly, I had the same problem, there's just no weight to anything, I have no reason to care that this place is actually this place or whatever.
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>>155214339
>>155214606
I don't think I'd mind the throwbacks, seeing as how they'd all be new to me. I'd have to piece together the lore myself and that's always fun. Most complaints seem to be about the lore though. Is the gameplay decent?
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>>155214805
I think the combat and enemy design is about as good as a Dark Souls game can be. It's not as good as Bloodborne, but given the design constraints around a Dark Souls game, it's very good.
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>>155214805
>I don't think I'd mind the throwbacks, seeing as how they'd all be new to me.
That's just it though. You won't get it. That's like watching a movie backwards or something. Whatever, you do you.

>Most complaints seem to be about the lore though. Is the gameplay decent?
Definje "decent"? Hitboxes are solid, the PvE is fair with only a few odd outliers. The PvP is balanced fairly well despite some recurring under-powered and overpowered weapons.

It's all competent. That's the best and worst thing anyone can say about the game: it's competent.

Really, really, start with DeS.
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>>155214805
>Is the gameplay decent?

It's serviceable, and that's about it. You're a Dark Souls protagonist fighting Bloodborne fast enemies, so it gets overwhelming, or just annoying at times. Weapon Arts add the most negligible amount of variety to otherwise bog-standard movesets, and I never found myself using Weapon Arts unless it was the dagger's quickstep.

There's a few good bossfights, but they're few and far between. The gimmick bosses are by far the most interesting because it seems more thought went into them than being another humanoid warrior.
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>>155214978
>>155215086
>>155215361

Well, considering my unfamiliarity with the series and the fact that I'm not a huge fan of the setting I may as well start at the beginning. It'd be cheaper too. Won't be wasting so much if I end up hating it.

To my shame, I played DeS many years ago and dropped it after the first level and then going to the big mining area. Thought it was shit. I know I didn't give it a proper chance though. If it sticks, I'll pick up DaS.

Appreciate the help guys, thanks!
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>>155215361
>Weapon Arts add the most negligible amount of variety to otherwise bog-standard movesets, and I never found myself using Weapon Arts unless it was the dagger's quickstep.
You're missing out. The only legit bad WA is Stomp.

>>155215579
>>155215579
>To my shame, I played DeS many years ago and dropped it
I did the same thing. Now it's my favorite, even after all this time.
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>>155215361
>You're a Dark Souls protagonist fighting Bloodborne fast enemies, so it gets overwhelming

This never makes sense to me.

I mean, yes, many enemies in DkS3 are fast.

But the enemies in Bloodborne are fucking dopes for the most part. The gameplay in Bloodborne is so fast largely because of how dopey the enemies are. They enable you to play aggressively because they're easily stunned and have long start-ups on most of their attacks, which have no tracking.

@the anon asking about DkS3, something else to note about DkS3 gameplay is that it has lots of "puzzle" bosses. I think that is fine, but some people hate it. I like that it changes up the pacing of the game, and makes bosses more than just combat gauntlets, but some people want DkS2-style "every boss is a large body with difficult roll timings you have to memorize."

And in general it is easier than the other games, IMO. On my first playthrough I had trouble with I think 1 boss, who took me ~25 tries. Everything else I killed in 3 or less tries. And there are only 2 or 3 bosses that regularly give people trouble. This will probably change with the DLC, though, as DLC bosses in Souls games tend to be some of the hardest.
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>>155216216
>which have no tracking.

I dunno, man, the taller beast guys in Centrl Yharnam with the ploughs and stuff, they track you no problem. Wombo combos are another thing Bloodborne enemies.
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>>155216216
The whole "BB enemies in a DaS setting" is practically a meme. It's 99% bullshit except the one area of the game that actually has literal BB enemies.

>2016
>@the anon
Come on anon.
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>>155215810
>You're missing out. The only legit bad WA is Stomp.

What were some good WAs? I tried out everyone I could and just never found a use for them in fights. Mind you, it was all PVE, but I just stuck to my R1s and never found a need to change that up. I feel like there's too many slow start ups or they're just easy to dodge.
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>>155216580
>Come on anon.

I was too lazy to go find any of their posts to link to. Sorry.
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>>155216580
>except the one area of the game that actually has literal BB enemies.

Which was?
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>>155216694
Not the anon you're responding to, but a lot of WAs that look too slow to be useful are just "R1 stunlocks into this, and it deals a lot of damage."
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>>155216694
>I feel like there's too many slow start ups or they're just easy to dodge.
That's not wrong necessarily. That's why Stomp is definitely the worst.

Stance is good, Perseverance on Caestus and the halberd is great, the lance/halberd rushdown (I forget its actual name. Charge, maybe) is great, and the Perseverance for Chimes is excellent.

>>155216972
Not-Hemwick (can't remember what it's called in DaS3. Leads to Road of Sacrifices). Literally the old women given men's voices. Same combos, no poise, stunned when rolled into, the works.
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>>155217149
>the Perseverance for Chimes is excellent
Unfaltering Prayer*.
Also the poison mist for the Storyteller Staff is good for cheesing some bosses.
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>>155213961
> I've seen footage of DS1, seems really slow. And 2 is ugh.

It's not THAT slow. Unless you saw footage for the PS3 versions. PC/PS4 versions are fine.

I think the speed in DS1 is just fine but yeah, when I went back to play Scholar of the First Sin after Bloodborne I got my ass stomped and I was like WHY THE FUCK AM I SO SLOW? ROLLS TAKE FOREVER. EVEN MY GO-FAST SWORD SEEMS TO BE IN SLOW-MO. MY FUCKING ESTUS FLASK TAKES FOREVER REEEEEE

but then you get used to it. You're not supposed to go fast at everything.

Let's just admit it right here bros, for all Bloodborne is better at, it is easier than your average souls. Aggressive, faster, more action-oriented, and yes, simpler too (less stats, less shit to upgrade, in fact you only upgrade weapons and put gems on it)
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>>155217305
Just the opposite, I think Bloodborne is mechanically harder. Barring things like a shit load of stats that you need to learn to distribute or else play with a gimped build, Bloodborne is much harder than the souls games.

In BB, you have one option, and that's to learn how to not get hit. You can't hide behind a shield, you can't min/max your defenses and tank a fight. You have to learn how to dodge.

BB is easy if you played the other souls games shieldless, but if you're new to the series or coming over as someone who hid behind a skin of steel? You're gonna have a bad time.
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>>155217305
>>155217305
Is Bloodborne easier, or is it just not as fucking awkward? The amount of stats in Souls games seem a tad much to me, always have, even before BB. Entirely separate stats for carry weight and rolls when it could be tied into your stamina always bothered me, because that seems logical.

You're forgetting what it was like starting out in Bloodborne, how scary mobs of villagers AWAY AWAYing you were, or double werewolves, or how fast bosses were and how hard they hit.
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>>155213961
Its hard to say for you. DS1 was my favorite souls game out of them all but if you thought DS2 was clunky you might feel the same for 1. Mechanically 1 is fine but just isnt as refined as later installments if yoi want a game with amazing world design, best lore, and lovable characters 1 is for you. If the change in gameplay just kills it for you then no
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>>155217305
>It's not THAT slow. Unless you saw footage for the PS3 versions. PC/PS4 versions are fine.

PS3
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1QGXBormTQ

PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSvWGl82cCs

Yeah, man. PC is soooo much faster.
Talk about DaS3 for five minutes and here comes a mustard to say something retarded.

>BB is the easiest
Seriously. Weak false flag, mustard.
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All this talking about dark souls, thought I was in /dsg/. The fuck's going on?
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>>155218360
Some anon asked the usual "I liked BB, so would I like DaS3" question.
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>>155217305
>PC version ever not being a straight port with no improvements whatso ever
Lel
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somebody please tell me hblb isnt the only boss that weve found that drops heavy abyssals
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I liek bloodborne wil i liek kings field?
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>>155219373
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>155182636
So much autism
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>go from Bloodborne to DaS3
>mfw DaS3 is so fucking ugly and the animations are stiff as hell compared to BB
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>>155207189
Post delicious gun kills guyz.
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>>155221826
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>>155198030
Pretty sure all pistols have the same recovery speed but i dont think its been tested properly. You're right about the shotguns.
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>>155217305
>less stats, less shit to upgrade, in fact you only upgrade weapons and put gems on it

Far better in my opinion.
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>>155218975
b-bump
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Can someone help me with Rom, Layer 3 Lower foomeroo.

Pass is BBG01 (yes caps) I'm level 62
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>>155223684
The OP has a lot of useful stuff you know?
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>talk of level 240 builds
yeah 4chan is ultra casual, What a joke
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Why is laurence theme so God tier?
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>>155224170
yes and the only chalice listed in the doc is the one with hblb.
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>>155221285
namco budget
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>>155225146
Watchers drop anything
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>>155221285
>all this brown armor
>all those boring weapon
>no white hair
>characters skin looks damn weird
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>>155224902
To make up for the fact that Laurence himself is a little, lava-spewing shit.
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>>155225219
hopefully theres something between hblb and watcher roulette
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>>155215810
>more r1s than bloodborne
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>>155221285
It feels fucking terrible to play too. Funny, cause I played DaS3 and went to Bloodborne, but I can't go back. I don't know I played that thing.
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>>155224629
>he doesn't have a BL240 character
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>>155225406
Nice meme, but actually

>enemy R1's twice or three times
>I used (L2), L1, R2, L1, L1
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>>155221285
I can't believe I wasted €70 on a digital preorder of that fucking mess, just kill me, lads
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>>155225658
>digital preorder
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>Pretty much Bloodborn'd out
>No life though
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>>155226786
>Bloodborn'd out
make level 50s and run chalices in coop
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>>155226339
You haven't the faintest conception of how much I regret that decision, you really don't. I actually preordered it just a few hours before it released which is even more nonsensical.
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>>155225658
>tfw I preordered DS3, loved it, and don't regret a single dollar I spent

Laughing at the shitstorm of impossible expectations has been fun.
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>>155226975
No way. I've doing chalices all week.

I... could probably stand to do some Hintertomb Roots, but I'm a couple story chalices from that on my current character.

>>155227058
You seriously hate it that much?
I easily put double the amount of hours I have on Bloodborne on it before I started to get bored
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>>155227058
>he ignored the red flags

anti twink system alone was a big red flag

killed off a big part of twink/anti twink community

next game will probly have mandatory leveling
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>>155227305
>anti twink system alone was a big red flag
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>>155227438
>the optional online sysytem should be scaled and safe for player with little risk and all reward

might as well add an easy mode
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>>155227256
I mean afrer Bloodborne and hearing big M is actually directing it I thought it couldn't go wrong, but it did.
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>>155227553
big m lied

you cannot direct 2 games at once
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>>155227553
Mate it's obvious now they slapped his name onto that game to drive sales. You can tell when he's putting effort into his games DeS/First half of DaS1/BB
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>>155227553
How did it go wrong? I don't get why people were expecting something Bloodborne-tier, or even greater. At least for me, Bloodborne was easily FromSoft's best game, and I knew that they weren't going to be able to surpass it.

All I wanted was an actual fucking sequel to Dark Souls 1, and that is exactly what I got. I'd been wanting it ever since Dark Souls 2 was shit, and DaS3 was precisely what I'd been wanting for two years.
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>>155227548
>players who don't want to be subjected to skilless faggots like myself just want the game handed to them and are why the game was bad

False equivalence, projection, and some retarded implications all in the same post, nice.
Also, nice grammar. Come after you turn 18 retard.
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>>155227553
>I mean afrer Bloodborne and hearing big M is actually directing it I thought it couldn't go wrong
He had TWO co-directors, anon.
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>>155227753
>beat game and acquire weapons/miracles for build at a preset low level
>worse at the game
,':^)
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>>155227753
>False equivalence, projection, and some retarded implications all in the same post,

irony

im convinced you are trolling

no post can be so unironically ironic than the one you just made

its too much pottery
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>>155227936
>scrubbed out of PvP with people the same level as you
>get carried through the game for equipment and then use it on low-level players
Yes, anon. I am saying you are worse at the game.
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>>155228081
>I can't beat the game alone at a low level so no one can
>=^)
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>>155228081
>scrubbed out of PvP with people the same level as you
>get carried through the game for equipment and then use it on low-level players

>low-level players
>same level as you

system works tbqh

look at this "meta" fag
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>>155227548
I've never understood twink logic. What's so fun about destroying people(probably first-time players) with far worse gear than you, or cooperating with a boss so you can kill it in a handful of hits? How is that in any way fun?
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>>155228154
>He was never around for Scraping Spear DeS invasions.
That was the shit mate being an asshole is the whole point of invasions if you want to duel go to Mensis or 4-1
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>>155228154
Twinking is very fun when you cleave through a group of people
invading a single retard with no gems and the stock hunter set is boring
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>>155228154
steam rolling coop

players call for twinks to help them in coop

something has to balance that out
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>People actually defending twinking, in all lower case letters and no punctuation
Wow, it's like I'm really on /dsg/

>>155228154
There is no logic. Invaders are already either sociopathic or autistic 99% of the time anyway. Twinks are the same shit but worse.
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>>155228312
>"whaaaa"
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>>155228312
>Wahhh why doesn't everyone duel honorably
What a fucking boring life you lead brah
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>>155228312
I bet you do a Respect before every duel you have in Mensis on your 50/50 build. I love smushing vermin on you people because of how mad that shit can make you.
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>>155228376
>>155228410
>>155228597
>twinks get called out
>resort to talking about something completely unrelated to avoid having to confront the central point

Why is it so hard for people to admit they just like ruining somebody else's day, and for no other reason than fuck them for existing?
The only reason I invade is purely to completely waste people's time, I have no illusions about it, and I don't get massively defensive when people call me a cunt.
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>>155227925
Probably worst feeling in the entire game being grabbed by these fuckers
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>>155229029
>>twinks get called out
see
>>155228290
gg no re
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>>155229029
You didn't make a central point, unless you're talking about the imagined scenario you put forward where all twinks were people who couldn't pvp and had to get carried through the game to get their gear to bully low levels which is an incredibly obviously false narrative you've constructed
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>>155229249
>you

Not that guy.
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>>155222127
>less variety in an RPG is better!
What?
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>>155229273
Then what was the central point? Are you saying invading in the tradional way, aka just to fucking kill someone and get the fuck out, preferably as dirty as possible, isn't fun?
Invading is fun as fuck dude, dueling is fun but it's not the same as getting in the business of a bunch of people trying to do a level and completely fucking them over.
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>>155229302
>all the things is good

tie and time again fromsofts shown quality thru sticking with simple concepts.

Both times they try to add all the things in ds2 and ds3 its ended up in disaster
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>>155229249
>incredibly obviously false narrative
Not after all the dozens and dozens of twinks I've carried and seen other anons carry through bosses like 4kings.

Okay anon, "You are TOTALLY good enough to beat the game at a low level and """"deserve"""" your right to twink." 99.9% of you are scrubs that washed out of meta PvP, and nothing you alone can say will make that less true.
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>>155227256
>>155227275
>>155227305
Here's the thing, I don't hate DaS3, and I did have some good times and it isn't an actual bad game, but after one NG+ cycle, I have no urge to play again. It simply wasn't worth the amount I paid for it and I wish I had bought a cheaper secondhand copy.
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>>155229302
haha guys I sure love useless stats like the splitting of END. Or the sweet sweet stats like
Res,Adp and fucking luck. Look how much variety they have added to the game.
WOAH DUDE I like have this straightsword that looks different from your one but has the exact same moveset bro that has like added so much variety.

Quality>Quantity.
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>>155229573
Sounds like a dsgism to me
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>>155229453
You had nothing that was worth saying.
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>>155229706
good talk
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>Still have nothing to say
>Desperate to have the last word anyway

Wew, not even worth a (you) lad.
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>>155229871
the irony though, don't worry I won't be passive aggressive and I'll give you the you
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Pretty awesome how the two things people get triggered the hardest by are discussions about twinks and over-levelling for FCs, and yet it's the people who don't twink and don't over-level "that are mad".
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>>155230234
It's because they can't just accept being called a dick when they're acting, arguably, like a dick, so they perform pointless mental gymnastics trying to legitimise it.

Very few people actually get mad here, people just abuse the lack of intonation and accuse anybody of being mad just because they take a stance that paints their actions negatively.

>You called me an autist/sociopath, you must be irrationally angry
Never see 'em actually address the point, they just greentext some variant of u mad and think that somehow makes them the winner of the conversation.
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>>155224137
still looking for help?
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>>155230957
Indeed. Though I guess being called autistic and or a sociopath isn't the exactly conducive to a conversation.
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are heavy abyssals actually even worth it? before i bang my head against this boss i might as well ask.

i was thinking they might be good for meme driver on a pure str build.
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>>155232017
yeah post buff heavy abyssals are a huge boost for all pure str builds, and str/quality benefits from them as well
in fact weapons at 50str/base skl will be able to reach much higher ar with 2 heavies instead of 27s depending on the str scaling, naturally stuff like the kirk only need one but a saw cleaver and the stake benefit a lot from 2
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Twinking in Souls is one of my fondest memories.
I used to Cheat Engine items in DS2 and change my name so I could do cosplay invades in Bastille. Shit was so cash, I used to cosplay as a Dragon Shrine guard and have one of my friend do the same so once in a while, we'd find ourselves dueling in some newbie's world that'd be bewildered at two people with nearly identical names and appearance fighting to death.

Twinking in DaS3 was harder but with full estus and some weapons with good base damage (raw ASS for example) you could really tear a new asshole to overconfident noobs with their two phantom escorts. It was harder but also much more rewarding to cleave through phantoms after phantoms, taunting the host after each kill. Damn, I think I'm going to reinstall it.

Pic related, me and a friend fighting in some nerd's world.
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>>155232017
Yes they are if you have 50 Strength. I could help ya farm if you need help.
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>>155232198
i definitely will. i hate that goddamn boss. im still a while off from him though
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>>155232271
Pizza Cutter with Fire Paper and Beast Blood Pellets make quick work of him. Keep attacking the limbs while unlocked and dodge back whenever you see the signs for an attack. The two swipes he does though you'll wanna dodge foward, then turn around and hit his legs.
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>>155232482
ok cool.

it might not even be hblb that im remembering, but one of those kinds of bosses has a huge fullbody hitbox and its always a nightmare fighting him
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>>155232614
It probably is, lots of people complain about both Blood-letting Beasts' body slam hitbox. It's predictable though, but if you get sloppy then it's gonna wreck shit.
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>tfw you chain backstab the Orphan of Kos
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>>155231217
Yeah, but ive just had a spliff so bear with me, ringing now, BBG01
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>>155234807
alright
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>>155234807
DUDE

weed

lmao
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>>155235119
Fucking hell, he didn't last long at all!
Fancy helping me through the next layer?

>>155235493
You're missing out mate.
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>>155235932
Sure
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What's a good weapon to use along with my pizza cutter?
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>>155236207
Chikage
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>>155236207
Another pizza cutter
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>>155235978
Every goddamn time, I always die to those fucking things, ringing again if you're up for it.
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>>155236207
The otha cutta
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>>155236383
I much as I like chikage I don't need three builds using it.
>>155236749
I had forgotten about it this does look like fun thanks.
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>>155236668
did you get him?
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>>155237629
yeah mate, got him just after you died. Big thanks for the help on that one! What chalice should i do next?
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>>155237629
fancy helping me blast through cainhurst? I dont have enough materials for the next chalice dungeon.
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>>155238595
sorry man
i gotta go to bed
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>>155238941
no worries, thanks for all the help.
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What's the pvp traffic in the middle loft like anymore compared to say pre DaS3?
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>>155181780
This happene to me when I was fighting Eribetras in the Great Isz chalice. Didn't even know the timing could work like that. Felt pumped as hell when I won.

What even is the timing on 'Fine' note refills, anyway? Does the game cache them at all, or do you just get them whenever the server checks, regardless of need?
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Anybody require help from a BL4?
Can do anywhere except after Ludwig and FRC dungeons (can do any main dungeon though)
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>>155225527
>not having a BL666 character
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Alright, let me get this straight before I fuck something up.

In order to open a glyph, I need a root chalice of the glyph's main chalice dungeon. Then, I need to open up said root chalice and afterwards, I'll be able to open the glyph without spending materials.

And for the FRC stuff, I only have to make one FRC root to be able to open all FRC's? As in making an FRC Central Pthumeru Root, for example, lets me open up all FRC glyphs provided that I have their root chalices open, which don't necessarily need to be FRC themselves?
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>>155240678
Same as always.
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>>155241694
>In order to open a glyph, I need a root chalice of the glyph's main chalice dungeon
Yes.
>Then, I need to open up said root chalice and afterwards
No.
>I'll be able to open the glyph without spending materials.
Yes.

>And for the FRC stuff, I only have to make one FRC root to be able to open all FRC's?
Yes.

>As in making an FRC Central Pthumeru Root, for example, lets me open up all FRC glyphs provided that I have their root chalices open, which don't necessarily need to be FRC themselves?
You need to have made one FRC dungeon of any location. It doesn't need to stay open. You just need to have made one at one time.
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>>155241301
>going past 544
back to >>>/dsg/ with you
stupid frog poster
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Ahh...
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>>155246132
Kek...or some say Kuk...do you hear our prayers?
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>>155246132
You were at my side all along...my true mentor...my guiding Kosm...
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>watching Twitch streamer on bloodborne
>girl on NG+12 fighting ludwig
>2 summons helping her
>using bolt paper
>has 99 fire paper in storage
>doesn't know how the storage box works at NG+12
>mfw
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>>155246717
>NG+12

Que?
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>>155246717
/lilbritters8
If you guys were interested in watching this trainwreck
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>>155246813
NG++++++++++++
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Irwlttbtopdeita
(I really would like to believe that other people don't engage in this activity)
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Anybody here playing? Or are we /dead/ again for a while?
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>>155248438
I'm playing, want to help farm watchers in isz and ihyll?
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>>155248726
Yeah, why not. I can hope for some adept gems for my SKL build.
Password and glyphs?
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>>155248909
Glyph is 5pwujscd
Pass: poise

I hope you don't mind starting with isz
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>>155249082
I'll ring small by the boss door, anon
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>>155249082
>>155249221
Latency is making parrying a nightmare, I'll have to be careful
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>>155249827
Yeah thank god these guys are pushovers on skill builds. I didn't get the gem I wanted so I'll be ringing again by the boss door.
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>>155249827
I'm moving onto ihyll, glyph: pwmf22gu
Same pass if you're still down to farm.
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>>155246717
>END yourself helping her
The hell you doing dude?
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>>155250484
I'm down for as long as you're going, have nothing else to do.
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>>155250549
sekrit club is crashing her stream
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>>155250549
I wouldn't call what I was doing "helping".
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>>155247659
Was he asking for a duel or something?
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>>155250798
>>155250802
How many from /bbg/ is actually in this stream?
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>>155250945
Several.
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>>155250914
I guess he was trying to do an epic honor duel with chikages or something
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FUCKING RED SPIDERS
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>>155250484
Sorry anon, that was retarded. He was parried in my game, then I'm dead.
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>>155251217
No worries I got slammed and killed too so don't feel bad. Ringing again
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>>155246717
Does that stupid bitch just not know how to dodge Ludwig's leaping attack? She keeps getting hit by it every time she enters.

How do you get to NG+12 without knowing how to dodge something so simple? Was she just carried all the way through?
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discord virgins fapping to twitch chick? Your resident homo must be jealous.
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>>155251278
bbs ng scaling ends at +7 doesn't it?
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>>155251321
Dynamo? I dunno man he hasn't said a word in ages must be sad that we ain't all fapping over him.
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>>155251486
I've heard it was N6+6
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>>155251278
I don't think she understands there's no i-frames on the jump and honestly, I think she's been carried by regular beckons through every playthrough. She's got almost 99 BLT and she's using a fucking whirligig saw.
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>this twitch stream

Jesus this is irritating, I can't even hear the game

END Yourself make an appearance pls
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>>155251550
Scratch that, she's switched to the chikage now due to chat intervention. Does she use it in tricked mode though? I've not checked
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>>155251650
I have. Twice.
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>>155251321
I don't know if discord is a boogeyman or whatever made for discussion to keep this thread alive but I really wish you fags would shutup about it.
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>>155251650
Where's Vit Isn't a Meme? He and END Yourself will save this.
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>>155251813
What level is she? Is there a pass she's using?
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>>155251550
>TRIES TO JUMP PAST IT AGAIN
She was definitely carried through.
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>>155251861
353.
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>>155251956
The Vit King is on the way
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Chat regulars are on to us.
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>>155251871
>switches to whirligig on his second form
kek
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Frodanis and DeviousDanish, I know you guys are in here, my sides are in orbit.
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>>155252792
Devious Dash does what he must
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>>155251956
Is there a period at the end of that?
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>>155252792
I hope that poor guy doesn't look up anything about that and just tries to follow our instructions.
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>>155253492
All we can do is hope
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Should I just go into NG+ already?
Grinding PvP for chunks isn't exactly fast. And fuck chalice dungeons.
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>>155253779
PS4 has a screenshot cucklord
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>>155253779
>Grinding PvP for chunks
Shit that sounds awful you would be better off farming the leg wolves or blue eyed ones in upper cathedral ward.
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Hey nova I think I'm calling it quits, thanks for the help farming though.
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>>155254321
Alright, I'll catch you some other time.
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>>155253779
>And fuck chalice dungeons

But that's actually straight up the easiest way to get chunks. Slap on an Eye rune and you'll be getting one or two of them almost every time you kill a boss, which depending on what it is could take as little as a minute. And then you get the two insight per boss kill, which means ten kills means at minimum one chunk and usually like fifteen or some such. Plus you get gems, which is even better.
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>>155254150
i do have a lot of fun with pvp though. that's the entire point of my build.
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>>155255186
But you could spend like half an hour farming and be more efficient at pvp rather than picking up a chunk every 10-20 matches you win
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>>155254725
Seriously this post plus running through the story should get you 48 chunks at least. If you farm frc bosses especially the harder ones (watchers become really easy)you end up playing better like training in a hyperbolic time chamber.
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>>155183503
I upped that note, or one similar to it
>>
Is the church pick the best weapon in the game for PvE?
>serrated in both forms
>righteous in both forms
>practically entire tricked moveset is thrust
It's good against everything. And has great range.
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>>155255732
what dungeons do you start getting good phys gems?
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>>155253779
>having a twink but not putting the effort in to get good gems
Disgusting.
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>>155256520
it's no fun if i kill people in two hits
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>>155256305
You'll net 14-18% up naturally just from reaching depth 5. After you get your first root you'll have access to the op sheets.
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>>155256639
You kill pesky co-operators or NPC summons, then toy with the host.
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>>155256171
what an absolute madman.
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>>155256731
i do that just fine with menis/hamlet gems
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>>155256851
You don't even have at least 15 arcane, you don't know how to have fun as a twink.
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>>155257026
it's a skl build so...
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>>155236207
I like using either HLMS or Boom Hammer personally, although I'd say most any weapon would work well with it assuming you've got the right stat spread for it
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>>155258001
I've been considering the two as I could level my arc to about 30 and be 117
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>>155260419
A W A Y A W A Y
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A
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A
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A
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>>155260419
AWAY
AWAY
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>>155260419
AWAY AWAY
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>>155260419
AWAY
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It baffles me that with all of the cunts saying "Bloodbourne", none of you have transfixed Jason Bourne's face to the cover hunter for a meme or something. Also how fucking dumb do you have to be that you can't properly read a god damn ten letter title?
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>>155262285
>Jason Bourne
The only topical thing BB reminded me of was pic related, but no one else got it and it therefore never took off.

BB's done a good job of being pretty insular.
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How can anyone use the Kirkhammer in good conscience? It's a grotesque oversized animu hammer in a game with fairly aesthetic weapons.

Garbage like that belongs in the Souls games proper, not this one.

Plus if you want animu weapons, there are far more aesthetic ones on call, like the stake driver or the katana of unzipping.
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>>155262634
i've always been bothered how it looks when tricked on someone's back.
a huge stone block just hanging there. not impeding rolls or anything.
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>>155262729
I mean if it had a smaller head it would be great. You never see reasonable hammers in games anymore.

I don't even want a real fighting hammer. I just want something sledgehammer sized. Not a chunk of rock.
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>>155262634
>>155262729
>>155262861
This is most retarded conversation that's been had on /bbg/ today.
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>>155262994
Paladin detected

Go swing your oversized hammer while yelling at wenches somewhere else
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>>155262729
I've always liked that the BB roll is actually somewhat low to the ground and you can see the character lay the weapon in front of them as part of the animation, although of course it's still immersion breaking with shit like Kirk. But compared to the fucking somersault rolls in Dark Souls with shit like the Dragons tooth, it's a lot more believable. I'm very bothered that DaS3, with all of its recycling of animations, didn't pull a few from BB. Like, why don't ultras have a kirkhammer dashr1 attack? Instead they literally just ported in the DaS1 movesets and gave rolls more invulnerability frames than any dodge in the series.
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>>155262994
I'd say this marginally beats people being upset about twinks
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>>155262634
>>155262729
>>155262861
Let's be real here gentlemen, this is also a game in which we can memorize a sound to make us spawn a broccoli head and tentacles or become teen wolf, a game with a giant pizza cutter saw, a giant fucking ghost infested wheel and a hammer with a furnace that explodes. The Kirk's unwieldy size is hardly an issue and looks pedestrian compared to some of the beautiful nonsense in this game.

Now Ludwig's is Souls-tier garbage, greatswords can fuck off unless they shoot moon lasers.
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>>155263069
>Game has giant chainsaw weapons and transforming swords made of moonlight
>"Man that one hammer really breaks muh immersion"
Nah, that shit is beyond retarded.
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>trying to pick up items with Micolash talking
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>>155263320
>implying this is about immersion
>and not the fact that the Kirkhammer is uglier than Father Gascoigne

The pizzacutter and WHEEL are vastly superior aesthetically, while the Kirkhammer is a chunk of stupid that makes a pretty sword ugly
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>>155263192
No one was upset about twinks. Twinks were upset someone called them sociopathic autists.

Disregarding the Whirligig to whine about the Kirkhammer is at least 10 times more retarded.
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>>155263458
Please anon nobody goes around calling people sociopathic autists without being upset about something.
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>>155263409
>talking shit about Daddy Dieseldollar

I bet you use the Chikage
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>>155263409
The way you hold the kirk looks way better than the pizza m8 sorry, kirk just has a better silhouette
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>>155263679
I don't know. I'm calling >>155263409 retarded and I'm not mad. His shit taste doesn't mean anything to me.

I like what >>155230957 said on the matter.
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>>155263828

You seem pretty upset about both twinks and people hating kirkhammer sorry m8
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>tfw 117
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>>155263929
Nope. People are free to have shitty opinions, and I'm free to tell them how shitty they are. No emotion necessary.
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>>155262634
People like the Kirk because it's a big smashy hammer. Same way how people like the Wheel, in that it's a goddamn wheel that you break bones with. The Kirk is a giant hammer with what I can only assume are holy scriptures etched into the sides that you use to crush beasts and nonbelievers alike. It's less about the way it looks, and more about what it means what it symbolizes.

Personally, I think Ludwig's Holy Blade is way out of theme for Bloodborne. In the game where one of the most boring weapons is a giant handsaw that turns into a cleaver, this thing is just a sword. It turns into a bigger sword. Who the fuck goes into Bloodborne to use a shitting sword. It doesn't even do anything fancy like the Rakuyo and its spins and stabs, or the Reiter and it's having a gun in it. It's just a fucking sword.
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wew lads ng++ is really kicking my ass.
i cant even get passed daddy petrodollar
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>>155264609
what's your bl?
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my rakuyo is only +8 with mensis gems and i'm doing very well with pvp in the frontier at level 43.
i never knew how great the moveset was.
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>>155182040
Don't be fucking stupid. You know with Xbox 1 you had to have online to get patches and demos.

No matter what someone will charge for something. It isn't what is on the shelves you bitch about, it is what people are stupid enough to BUY that you bitch about.

If people vote with their wallets that it's acceptable, they then cannot bitch about it. If you're here...

Since when did BBG get filled with such sour grapes bullshit? It was so friendly when I was here last.

>>155263409
It's designed to fit something in the game, specifically the church's brutality.

>>155230957
10/10 post
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>>155265464
117
15 of which are on arcane
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>>155262634
to be honest pretty much all weapons in this game are anime as hell, the Hunter Axe and Ludwig's Holy Blade are probably the most mundane weapons you can find, and even they have at least some Anime to them, what with HA being able to extend itself and LHB being able to combine with it's sheath to make a larger blade

>>155264560
I'd say aesthetically the LHB does fit, if mostly in that it was designed for use by Ludwig's Holy Blades, who are presented(at least by what little info we have about them) as being intentionally anachronistic in terms of how they fight, same with the Executioners to an extent
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>>155232197
>fondest memories
>DS2
>cheat engine

I can't tell what kind of cancer you are....fucking underage or...jesus christ you're the first person I've read like nothing but the first 16 words LITERALLY JUST 16 WORDS and I hate you. You perfectly describe what went wrong after Demon's Souls general migrated to the newly made /vg/ and became Dark Souls General, and then suddenly this day came when all the PC kids who would come in and say "pc port when" came and the thread became unbearable.

I haven't been back to Dark Souls general since. I used to do nothing but help people beat bosses, give them weapons/upgrade mats, armor, etc, etc, etc but the community became disgusting. Defending cheat engine use, cheaters, etc.
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Anyone wanna take down the Loran Darkbeast with me? Ringing at the fog, pass is bbg123
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>>155156535
Help me out with something.

The way blood gems work is that I can shove any arcane/elemental gem on it and then it uses my arcane stat right? So like, if I had a kirkhammer or something that relies almost entirely on STR but I had the right gems on it then it'd pull from my ARC stat instead? Does it double up if I put an arcane blood gem on an arcane weapon? Is an arcane build even worth it?
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>>155267498
Did you read the op? Arcane can be the hardest hitting build in the game.

>>155267190
I would LOVE to but I'm SHIT at chalice. I've never had a good chalice build, but if someone gives me one, I'll happily grind it out so I can help people who come in here asking for chalice help.
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>>155267614
I get that, but it's more like... with all the effort you put in just to be viable, is it worth the effort when you can achieve a similar result just dumping stats into STR or SKL instead and just use a normal weapon? Because floundering along until I unlock the first chalice dungeon and then running them repeatedly to get gems doesn't sound thaaaat great.

I mean, if arcane lets me fucking face stomp everyone afterwards then shit why not right? But if it's only marginally better then I might as well not bother you know?
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>>155267190
I'm going to give it a couple more solo attempts since the general is slow now. Let me know if anyone is interested in teaming up on this bastard. I'll check the thread after each attempt.
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>>155267190
ill do it after school
add me
psn donsafadi
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>>155267810
Nothing else compares to the flexibility you get to be facestomping anything in melee range and BEYOND.
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>>155268129
>>155267980
Actually just beat him right after posting hahaha thanks anyway Anon.

Got a Bolt Abyssal too, awesome
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>>155268318
Grats man!
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rakuyo is so fun in pvp
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>>155221991
>noscoped
>locked on

[heavy breathing]
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>>155240678
its not too bad. At 98 im getting a fight every 30 seconds. And im playing from the other side of the world.
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>>155241694
just make either an FRC isz and enjoy all the glyph's you body can handle
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>>155225612
Cestus L1 is a double R1
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>Brother is fighting Orphan
>That slow defeated look after dying over a dozen times now
>Has gotten down to the "Kos" on the health bar
>Is using less Blood Vials, almost none until the second phase
>Just can't get it
I believe in him, send your energy to him /bbg/
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>>155275521
>brother
sure anon
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>>155275745
it's true

I haven't even beaten the Living Failures yet
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>>155275852
>Beat Ludwig
>Can't beat the living failures
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>>155275924
What can I say, group bosses fuck me up.
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i love lvl 43 pvp
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>>155263980
too bad im 97
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>>155272787
its a fucking meme, grats on being a shitter
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>>155266064
>>155272787
>>155276001
no one cares that you are shitting on newbs.
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>>155276514
>>155276617
i'm invading nightmare frontier.

i usually fight people at a higher level than me.

stay buttblasted.
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I'm starting an arcane build and I'm wondering what weapon I should use. A lot of weapons need more STR and/or SKL than I currently have. Some need a lot, some only need a couple of points. I guess if I really wanted to minmax I can just keep using the saw spear or whatever but a lot of the weapons I like such as the kirkhammer need some kind of investment.

It's fine if I start pumping stats into STR and SKL right? Arcane builds need waaaay more planning than I anticipated and I don't want to fuck myself. I'm not here for the supreme optimal build or whatever, but as long as it's viable then that's fine with me.
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>>155277857
>i usually fight people at a higher level than me

>implying that matters when you have mensis gems and they have +5% main game trash
>implying that matters when you hit them with Rakuyo phantom range from 50 meters away
>implying that matters when you trash some pve babbies
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>>155280794
there are many players who stay in the frontier for pvp
if you actually played the game, you'd know most pvp situations in the frontier are not with pve babbies with shit gems.
you get mensis/hamlet/chalice gems guys quite often.
it's one of the pvp hotspots.
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>>155279380
The Arcane guide is literally the OP pic you moron.
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>>155281209
>Doesn't even bother to refute anon's second point about the racuckyo
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>>155282883
If you can't read between the lines, I'm asking if I am restricted to JUST Kos parasite, saw spear and threaded cane or if I can use anything else. Saw spear you get like 15 minutes into he game and Kos Parasite is something you get at the very end. I'm already using the saw spear and it doesn't interest me much at all. It's serviceable, but it's boring.

God this place is useless, it's like you just see someone ask a question about arcane and IMMEDIATELY go and say "check the OP". You've done it to every single question I've asked about the arcane build and I've only asked things that aren't covered by the fucking meme picture. Jesus. I hope this game gets on PC just so you can all go fuck yourselves.
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>>155283186
If you wanna use the kirkhammer make a fucking str build retard.
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>>155266740
Is this a pasta
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>>155279380
Pure Arcane is a sick meme. Do Str/Arc so you can make use of loads of weapons. Wheel, MLGS, Kirkhammer, Whirligig, LHB. Also get enough Skill for Saif, that's a good target for elemental gems. Also Tonitrus is devastating on any Arcane build.
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>>155279380
good stopping points are 25str/12skl, 20str/12skl, and 16str/14skl
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so OHB makes your dodges faster i get that but realistically does it do anything besides make you more anime?
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>>155292950
it reduces the stamina cost and increases the distance covered, as well as shrouding some of the start up frames
it's really only good for something like the BoM or Saif/Saws to dash r1 a little more effectively
it does look cool though, and it's pretty hype to open a fight by crushing the bone
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Whats the best level to hit for the /bbg/ fightclub?
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>>155293537
Most people are 98-120
I have one build a little lower at 95, but most of my builds are in that range and I get plenty of activity on all of them
Generally the lower the better as higher levels are usually a little bloated in terms of AR but really the only build that benefits absurdly from hybridizing is a quality build
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>>155281209
Frontier is for shitters to catch low gem players, mensis has a higher chance of opponents with better gems. Nightmare church/hunter nightmare is pretty hot for higher gem pvp but you're gonna fond pvers naturally doing the dlc. they usually have strong gem escorts for you to test your mettle.
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>>155293049
It's pretty good for reducing the recovery frames on your wheel dashr1s. Basically anything with a decent dash r1 does well with it
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>>155294323
yeah I don't think about the wheel dash r1s because fuck them but the OHB+wheel is pretty strong
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What's stronger, 50/25 STR/ARC Wheel, or 25/50 STR/ARC Wheel? Does the extra physical damag gained from 50 STR mostly mitigate the damage loss from having only 25 ARC in the tricked form? Is it still worth having nourishing gems, or should I go blunt?
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>>155283186
You can use ANY Full phys weapon that you can convert using elemental or arcane gems.

Or use a Boom Hammer or Tonitrus

Bloodtinge weapons and other split damage weapons can't be converted.

If you want to make an elemental Rakuyo then go for it.
Who the fuck is stopping you?
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>>155295664
50str/25arc, nourishing gems
You won't get as much out of the revves, but you'll get enough to make a difference while having a much higher base damage and the untricked form has a decent r2 that benefits from that 50str
The main purpose of 25str/50arc isto use other elemental weapons at 50arc with access to a strong though not optimal wheel/hmls/tony etc
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What you currently doing /bbg/?
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>>155297104
Your mom
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>>155297104
Taking a shit, gonna go through Memesis with Vit King in a few minutes
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>>155298076
Anyone wanna rung through Memesis with me? This place is shite
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>>155297104
Running pwmf22gu for gems, chunks and picking up blood rocks when I hit 60 insight. Hoping to get some 32% thrust gems on my church pick with 50 skl for dem viscerals.

>>155299724
You're shit!
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>>155300396
>Hoping to get some 32% thrust gems on my church pick with 50 skl for dem viscerals.
I was doing the same thing, best I've got so far is a 31%
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>>155300396
NO YOU'RE GAY
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>>155299724
Mensis is one of my favorite areas in the game, along with Yarhar'gul and the Fishing Hamlet. How can you say it's shit?
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>>155160353
Underground Corpse Pile
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>>155301087
Yahar'gul is probably my least favourite because the laser Amy always, always gets me no matter what I do, respawning mobs and three fucking hunters

Mensis is Frenzytown

Hamlet's fine, except for the absurd whale shark giants.
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>>155301646
>couldn't git gud
Worthless excuses
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>>155301646
Literally the only thing you mentioned I could even consider bad is the Yarhar'gul three hunters encounter, but even that isn't so bad. It just requires good awareness and group control.
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>>155301646
the three hunters are pretty ez desu
its dem walking balls of corpses that always get me
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Fuck farming Adept gems. This is cancer unfit for the most degenerate of third-world shitheads.
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>>155303238
Honestly I love fighting the Cramped Caskets. They have such a variety of moves that it's always interesting to fight them. And since they can almost 0HKO you at that point in the game, it's always a high-risk encounter, which makes it even more fun.
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>>155303281
Try farming off shape BLT gems m8
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>>155303281
fuck gems, period.
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>>155303590
I have. That's not fun either. I prefer my 25SKL/50BLT or 25STR/50BLT builds though, so I'm spared from the drudgery of offshape grinding.
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>>155303281
Set a password and I'll join you
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>>155303002
>>155303084
>>155303238
I get that you guys are MLG pro gamers and all, but we all have that thing we find difficult for no reason. I find Yahar'gul just a chore. The respawning mobs don't really give you a second's respite until you hunt down every last bell maiden, laser Amy will without a doubt hit me (just one of those stupid things we all fuck up on), the hunters aren't even that hard, it just takes ages. It's just a big chore rounded off with the most nothing boss of the game. It's one saving grace is the massive amount of chunks and the huge shortcut right st the beginning you can use to skip half the level.
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>>155303856
Alrighty. pass is bbg, I'm in glyph rpkipbdn.
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>>155304020
Ok, I'll be ringing small by the boss door
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>>155303938
i literally said the slow weak piles of corpses are what kill me
im just sharing my feels bro
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>>155304209
Ringing but getting nothing. reset?
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>>155304590
Alright, I'll exit out and try ringing small again
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Do we still get a theme for our Bloodborne Platinum? I got my plat a week or so back and never got anything, so I don't know.
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>>155304590
>>155304689
Are you ringing beckoning with bbg and set to worldwide?
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>>155305041
Yea of course. I dunno what's going on. Sometimes the servers really don't like me I guess. My Piss4 wasn't on standby today other, so it couldn't be that glitch, although i suppose I could try a full hard reset.
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>>155305041
I can literally see your ghost.
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>>155304793
Make sure your Sony account online is set to allow you to receive e-mails, I got mine about a week after getting the plat.
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>>155305116
It's cool, I have to pop out soon anyway, so I guess I can give it another shot later on tonight.
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>>155300789
Its a good thing i want anything over the 14-18% gems i have currently, farming for blunt or sharp gems will drive you mad.
>>155300892
NO U
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>>155303938
Its okay to be terrible at a game anon, just blame yourself instead.
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Yo guys, I have a question that I think already know the answer to but I may as well check

My brother is currently playing through Bloodborne for the first time and using Arcane cus he likes the spells, but he sold the Tiny Tonitrus without realizing what it was cus he's fucking stupid

There's no way to get that back right? Guessing it's just locked in NG+ now
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>>155305542
He fucked up.
Tiny Tony is pretty trash though, so no biggie.
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>Planned my Str/Blt build for 117 at 50/20/50/13/28/6
>Realize 15 End is more than enough so stop at 93 with 50/15/50/13/9/6
>No idea what to do with the 5 spare points before deciding whether to go full 117
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>>155305481
Oh anon, please teach me your MLG pro ways...
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>>155305542
>selling items

Slap his shit
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>>155307094
I mean it's kinda gay how people always jump on every opportunity to measure their dicks with eachother, but there's really nothing in BB that's unreasonably difficult. Even CRF double Spider Maidens and shit aren't too bad.

If you want honest, modest, advice though anons will give it.
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>>155307037
Actually I could stop at BL100 with 16 Blt for the Church Cannon,

Damage seems a little lousy, though.
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>>155306503

Oh ok that's good to know. I never used Arcane so I had no idea

>>155307225

Yeah I know, but it's just how he plays. It was a ridiculous situation too cus he was checking with me that all this stuff was good to sell, but the one thing he didn't check was the spell, he sold it before I could tell him to stop, fuck knows why
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>>155297104
waiting for pvp outside amygdala gate in nightmare frontier. level 68.
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>>155307225
>Slap his shit
Dude selling consumables like Lead Elixirs and Ritual shit you wind up with way more than you need like Blood (3) is a great way to get levels and Blood Stones in the early game.
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>>155307648
>Not hoarding every item you come across because you may need it later
It's like you don't even play RPGs.
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>>155307037
More blt? Maybe an extra point or two in skl for chikage or bowblade?
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>>155307319
Look, we all have that one dumb thing we always have trouble with. I'm on my 9th playthrough on my fifth character, I just think Yahar'gul is a bag of dicks is all, I'm not a butthurt newfag complaining the game's unfair.
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>>155307906
Well the theme of the build is big weapons, which is why I'm looking at the Church Cannon. I kinda want to use the Church Pick though. I wonder if Heavy Abyssals could make it passable on a Str build...
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>>155280794
Did you invade a Milkweed Rune guy yesterday? Cause I got invaded by someone using a Rakuyo in Nightmare Frontier.
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>>155307648
>Selling Lead Elixir
Slap yourself
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>>155307831
This
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>>155308027
Heavy Abyssals can turn any weapon into a Str weapon

You're gonna need 2 though
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Can I put both Fire and Bolt gems simultaneously on a HMLS?
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>>155308359
>You're gonna need 2 though
Maybe I'll just go to 16 Blt for the Church Cannon
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>>155308387
You can but it would be shit and do literally nothing.
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>>155308578
Damn it. Is there a reason for this?
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>>155308745
You can't convert split damage weapons to any elemental damage. You could add flat fire and flat bolt gems to it, but you're plsitting your damage 4 ways and it would be terrible.
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>>155308910
Are there any interesting HMLS loadouts / firearm combos?
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>>155309606
Is a giant, transforming sword sheathed in moonlight not interesting enough for you as it is?
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I refuse to fight a brainfucker alone
Lower Hintertomb
BL 40
pass: fuckno
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>>155310525
It's not that bad, anon.

Just get a Bolt weapon or some Bolt Paper and go to town.
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>>155310525
Have you been to Great Isz yet? If you don't already know, I've got some bad news for you friendo.
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>>155310525
>Lower Hintertomb
>BL 40
If you made it that far alone you can hack it. Thrust damage or Bolt Paper.
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>>155310525
kek on my way, free echoes
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>>155311380
Ringing at the fog if it makes diference
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>>155311580
I'm SRRCing in, should be there in just a minute
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>>155310192
I did a HMLS build during the Old Hunters release and I fucked up my stats for it. Haven't done one since. I just want a little pizaz to this one.
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>>155312145
why does all fan art feature the LHB
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>brainsucker actually killed me

I'm never co-oping again, that's so fucking embarrassing
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>>155312381
Meh, BL40, boss, probably low Vit. Isn't surprising.

Depth 3 chalices at BL40 isn't really easy.
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>>155312267
Artists are subhuman shitters, and only shitters use LHB
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>>155311831
Didn't know they could oneshot people. Beckoning at lamp
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>>155312521
What's the glyph for the chalice?
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Let's see, I've killed the Shadows of Yharnam and Amydala, and finished Central and Lower Pthu, both Hintertombs, and opened Ailing Loran.

What can I do besides finishing Ailing Loran and clearing Byrgenwerth before Rom, Hunter's Nightmare notwithstanding?
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>>155312621
4j56
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>>155312491
I have actually 50 vit, got levelled down, but still

>>155312521
Ringing, this is personal now
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>>155312874
Cainhurst?
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>>155313025
Ah, there we go. I need Chunks, too.
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>>155312879
Alright.

Is it possible to join you using the SRRC even if I have not yet opened Lower Hintertomb? Can I co-op with people and possibly farm gems like that?
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>>155313130
>Is it possible to join you using the SRRC even if I have not yet opened Lower Hintertomb? Can I co-op with people and possibly farm gems like that?
Do a Quick Dungeon Search at an altar and see if you can open and Depth 3 Lower Hintertomb. Normally you can't skip dungeons with SRRC, but I don't know if Hintertombs "counts" or if having the chalice in your inventory is enough.

If you can't quick search a Lower Hintertomb, then the answer is probably no.
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>>155312994
I avenged you, Tobias sempai
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Tips for starting a new skill build? Any guides anywhere?
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>>155313449
Thank you, my friend...
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>>155313425
Yeah, I tried it a couple of minutes ago. Looked up the wiki and it said it was possible before the 1.04 patch, but not anymore.

Oh well. Would've been really helpful for farming gems on new builds without having to go through all the chalices again
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>>155313575
>Would've been really helpful for farming gems on new builds
That's probably the exact reason it was patched; people trivializing the game by getting chaperoned through FRC bosses.

>>155313458
How long a guide is "starting"? Every build is basically "get Saw Spear, get Fire Paper, get to Old Yharnam, get Blood Pellets, kill BSB, kill Amelia, grab weapon x from Hunter's Nightmare if you want, do Pthu Labyrinth, do Crentral Pthu Watchers a couple times for +17% gems, enjoy the rest of the game however you want."

Or, that's what I do.
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>>155314089
Alright just wondering. This will be my the second character I will have made and the first non-blind play through so I'm not as well versed as most here. Thanks
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>>155314235
Well stick around if you like, other anons probably have more/better input than I do.
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>>155314235
What type of build are you thinking of, anon? Also, the OP has a lot of good resources.

I think a good place to start is deciding what weapon you're particularly interested in.
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>>155313458
Get 40 vit first, pump skill when you're full on consumables, hit chalices and pump more skill.
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can someone help me with Rom on ng, that rain of icy death keeps fucking me up.
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>>155314762
Ring location and password?
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>>155314848
oh yeah sorry, outside boss gate and 'BBG01'
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>>155314848
nice one pal, thanks.
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>>155315342
Cheers, anon
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>>155313458
>Think of weapon(s) you want
>Search for best stats to use said weapon(s)
>Repeat until desired outcome
>Create a character with meme name
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>>155313458
The only real kicker to a skl build is that cool stuff like the pick or rakyuko require getting past Ludwig and beyond.
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>>155312145
Delete your character and make a new one.
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>>155315936
Thats no big deal, its just part of the game.
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>>155308359
I'm pretty sure Church Pick at base SKL and 50 STR works best with 1 Heavy Abyssal and 2 32.6% Thrust Gems. It has 0.4 STR scaling naturally, so +65 will make it 1.05. Going to 1.7 is not worth the loss of a 32% increase. If you are using 27% physical gems, then 2 Heavy Abyssals is better (I think).
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>>155315936
>threaded cane not cool
I never appreciated the cane until after my str build with beastcutter as main.
The range makes the chalices a breeze especially on skl.
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>>155316279
Oh it is but it just kinda sucks that most of the other skl weapons are in such late game areas
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>>155316068
I did delete it, all that time ago. But I'm thinking I should add elemental damage to the sword to spice things up.
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>>155314089
> Pthu Labyrinth, do Crentral Pthu Watchers a couple times for +17% gems

Firstly there are no Watchers in Central Pthumuru, they are in Lower Pthumuru. And secondly, they actually drop 18% gems. But all of this is irellevent because Lumpy the Lever guardian on layer 2 drops up to 20.6% physical gems, I even got a 23% Blunt from him once. It's an easier farm as well, since you don't need to remake the dungeon each time, just Bold Hunters Mark. But he has a lower droprate, and curses to worry about.
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farming some waning cold abyssals if anyone wants in I'll post the pw and such
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>>155316607
The only late skl game weapons are rakuyo, pick and bom.
Mid game gives you the reiter and riflespear and you can find the uncanny burial blade.
I don't see the problem.
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>>155316787
Yeah I meant "Clear Pthu Labyrinth, clear Central Pthu, do Lower Pthu Watchers a few times", but I must have hit the windows or tab key like I tend to do and it cot omitted.

That's interesting though.
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>>155317069
I'm over exaggerating it's just a tad annoying compared to doing str as my last build where I had everything I wanted just sprinting through the nightmare and I had never even thought of checking for easy chalice weapons.
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>>155314661
I'm thinking of going pure skill. I like the Burial Blade, Rakyuo and the Saif. My first play through I went pure strength so I'd like to play around with skill weapons next.

What would be the best origin to choose?
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>>155316787
>Lumpy the Lever guardian on layer 2
of what chalice?
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Hey guys I haven't played BB in a long time and am getting the itch to play it again.

I'm wondering if anybody wants to bro-op. I have an old build sitting somewhere, I'm thinking somebody summon me with a password and I'll be your companion for the rest of the game wherever you are. Not in one sitting of course, we'll just play until bored.

Anybody down for that? If you are let me know where you're at and I'll join you.
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>>155318618
Sure. I'll be on in a moment, I'm making a powderkeg build. I think the character is heading to Hemwick, so I'll let you know once I'm on.
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>>155319096
cool let me know the password when you're there
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>>155318012
Thats cuz we got da skillz as skl builds. Gotta give the str builds something to keep em going while they envy our viscerals and curazy speed.
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>>155318618
I'd be up for this, getting my first PVP build off the ground and I've just gotten into the DLC and Yaharghul which id love a partner through.
Ill be on in about an hour.
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I don't understand how the rakuyo has unique animations for every variation of movesets.. Is that a meme? Or is it the thrust attacks that make it more popular over bom?
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>>155320194
cool tell me when
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>>155318421
Central Prhumuru story chalice.

It's a 30 second run to the lever and he drops cursed gems fairly frequently.
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>>155318142
Professional or Military Veteran

Pick your poison
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>>155320236
It's the phantom range and no bullshit Arc scalling
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>>155319293
Finally at the Hemwick lamp. PW: brownqt
>>155320194
I'll move to a different character to help you as well when you're on.
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>>155321232
Phantom range?
Wut
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>>155321235
ringing at lamp m80
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>>155321384
>Being a dumbass
You might as well be dual wielding spears if you are using a Rakuyo.
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>>155321019
>Central Prhumuru story chalice.
yeah i just ran that a dozen times and only got non cursed tempering (3). now the lever watcher in lower pthumeru layer 2 dropped a cursed tempering (4), but for 20% who gives a shit? ill take non-cursed 16.5s that drop every time
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>>155321235
you wanna keep going? if so where should I meet you?
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>>155322681
Old Yharnam lamp. Gotta get that Rifle Spear and Stake Driver.
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>>155322725
ringing
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I'm trying to calculate some potential ARs by using the the damages in MugenMonkey.

To that I'd use, for a Moonlight Sword for example:
[180 + (180 * 0.320 * 0.8)*(180 * 0.738 * 0.7)] * 1.193 * 1.193 * 1.193
Right?
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>>155320456
Hey pal, I'm on now, Just starting the DLC so ill be around the beginning lantern now, I wanna 100% everything besides those massive purple helmet axe guys, fuck them. Pass is kush420
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>>155323276
ringing
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>>155323938
christ, what level are you?
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>>155324210
82, I don't think that matters with the password though. are you at the lamp?
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>you can pick up the rifle spear in old yharnam

9th fucking playthrough and I never knew this

This fucking game, man
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>>155323938
dude slow down i wanna fight them too ha ha
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>>155324359
I even know where it is and I still walked past it and only got the charred set on my last playthrough.
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>>155324389
anon I couldn't connect with you again, so lame.
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>>155323276
>sent back to own world
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>>155324530
>>155324389
>>155324340

Right, some beast guy joined my game and just obliterated half the map leaving me to pick up the scrap. Don't wanna play like that, its fucking boring.
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>>155324741
I'll choose a weaker build, then.
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>>155324741
lol I'm still waiting at the lamp

I couldn't reconnect with the first anon at old yharnam.

so much for bro-op.

eh, dlc anon if you want me to join I still got the password summon help for kush420
bravo from software networking.
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>>155324953
Old Yharnam guy here. I was helping DLC anon as I said I would.
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>>155324939
Thanks mate

>>155324953
Ill head back and re-ring now, just gotta spend my echo's.

Bear with me guys, im a shitter... [spolier]and im high[/spoiler].
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>>155325271
im with some random dude now
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>>155325271
>[spolier]and im high[/spoiler]
Ctrl + S
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>>155325438
I hope you know you can summon two people.
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>>155325438
>im with some random dude now
Haha, so's my ex girlfriend.
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>>155325442
Nice one.

Also, if anyone is lurking, feel free to join in or PVP with us. I'm level 76.
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>>155325652
Got gems? I'm 98 and I just started farming for gems, but I don't want to have a huge advantage due to level.
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>>155325271
DUDE
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>>155323256
>[180 + (180 * 0.320 * 0.8)*(180 * 0.738 * 0.7)]
Oops, I mean [180 + (180 * 0.320 * 0.8)+(180 * 0.738 * 0.6)]

I'm doing something wrong though 'cause I'm not getting numbers on Mugen.

Although I guess really all need to do is multiply the ARs on MM by the gem values I want, in stead of trying to re-figure the entire formula...
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>>155325782
Highest gems i have are from the area we just cleared. Thanks by the way, mind helping me with laurence?
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>>155327462
I'll stay away, in that case. You lads have fun
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>>155327639
98 is outside the invasion range of a 76 anyway
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>>155327462
I've been ringing at the Research Hall this whole time. Say something next time.
Fog, or lamp?
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>>155325782
>>155327462
Oops nevermind hes not awake yet.

>>155325793
mate i have a pretty shitty life at the minute, smoking and bloodborne are the only things that distract me enough from it all.
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>>155327705
sorry mate, I'm on my way to the research hall now, just beat Ludwig with a very well cosplayed Lord Voldemort.
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>>155327937
I am Lord Voldemort. And I was waiting for you at the Hall.
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>>155328081
getting gang raped by pre-melia and her sub. halp.
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>>155327937
>referring to /bbg/ players like randoms
My nigga, you may be a little too high.
Only people in this thread know the password to your game, and as such, are the only ones who can enter your world.
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>>155328280
I put my password earlier in the thread. should be pretty obvious which it is.
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>>155328203
You cannot summon in that spot. Only when you get to 'Research Hall' can you ring your bell(s).
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>>155328393
>>155328402
where you guys summoning from? kush420 right?

wait for me pls
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>>155312267
cause it's probably the second easiest weapon in the game to draw behind untricked Threaded Cane

>>155328203
can't summon there, best way to handle them is to lure the LHB lady into the jail hall and wail on her, especially since she'll keep trying to retreat, then after killing her go after the other one, she's a bit harder since she spams Blacksky Eye and uses a Threaded Cane
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>>155328393
anon please
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>>155328748
research hall.
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>>155329057
I'm ringing at the bottom of the research hall where that poor bastard is trying to find his eyes. Pls come back for me brehs.
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I can't seem to connect with kush420 anon. Oh well.
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>>155329026
He did literally announce the password and openly invite lurkers to koin
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What's the general path in early game on a Tinge/Skill (50/25) eventual build?
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Anyone feel like helping me with NG+ Micolash? Thought this faggot was easy the first time but he got strong here.
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>>155329617
Pump Skill to 25, Saw Spear +6, run dungeons until Lower Pthumeru for okay gems (19+% from Lumpy the Lever Guardian on layer 2), cleave your way to Ol' Logi after Amelia with Beastblood Pellets and Papers.
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gonna have a ten min break guys, thanks for the help so far i've saved up 160k

I've just turned 23, hooray.
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>>155329987
Sure. Pass?
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>>155330684
bbg4

Thanks niqqa, ringing from Mergo's base lamp now
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>>155330940
Still need help? I'll jump in if you need it.
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>>155330940
Yyyyeah, you might have to take him on alone.
The cooperator-host latency makes his Augur instantaneous.
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>Want to make this build
>Don't want to play the early game for the umpteenth time, especially so soon after doing it to start two other builds that I lost interest in

Help...
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>>155331680
Ask for a co-op buddy. I've got a HMLS build in my backlog as well. I still have a Powderkeg build that's in Old Yharnam that I've been wanting to do for at least a month now.
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>>155331680
Come on it's not that bad I've gone past Amelia three or four times in just the past two days after messing stuff up or changing my mind about my build.
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>>155331554
Damn man that sucks, and >>155331392 yeah I do still need help but I'm still in the first fight. I literally can't find him after the first time beating on him. This fight is annoying... Just running around
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>>155331931
Yeah, maybe. It doesn't help alleviate the grind much, though. The real problem is getting the Rakuyo early enough to enjoy it. I don't really PvP and by the time I can go get it myself all the chalices and the main game are over.

>>155332158
There's a big chasm of monotony between Amelia and Mensis, anon.

I could maybe do what I did with the Str build I just finished; rush the Lecture Building and farm echos.Then I could at least get Rakuyo and HMLS without doing a lot of the actual content...
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Fire HMLS,
or Bolt HMLS ?
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>>155301216
why is the corpse pile underground, anyway?
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>>155332370
If it comes down to it, you can just Bold Hunter Mark out.
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>>155332683
Yeah I just did. Balls.
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>>155331392
You still wanna give him a go m8?
>>155331554
Thanks for trying bro, can't even imagine playing this game with lag.
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>>155333148
I've been ringing my small res at Base Loft for a little while now.
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>>155333230
Oh shit kek one sec
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>>155332553
Unless you mean ludwigs holy blade and not the moonlight sword, you can't do either
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>>155330531
happy birthday anonkun
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>>155333230
Fuck!
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>>155333268
Fuck. Doublecast NG+ Call Beyond is nothing to fuck with. We'll get him this time!

You didn't wait when I asked you to and it made me a little sad.
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>>155333793
Huh? Asked me to wait? I've
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>>155333991
anon died. he saw candlejack and tha
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>>155333793
Kek wrong bell?
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>>155334150
No, you're just a FILTHY VILEBLOOD.

I'll take the rune off.
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>>155333294
I have seen one of my cooperators using a bolt infused HMLS
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>>155334286
You can use an hmls with a flat bolt and it will show the bolt effect when you hit stuff, but you can't convert the whole weapon to bolt
what you probably saw was someone with a nourishing gem that had a +bolt secondary
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>>155334241
Kek well that was embarrassing...

Also thought I had my impurity rune on
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>>155334286
>>155308910
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One hit with augur???
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>>155334821
Multiplayer is weird in Bloodborne. There's been a bug ever since the DLC released that makes NPC spells cast twice at the same time. So you're not just getting hit by Augur, you're getting hit by two Augurs. And they're two NG+ Micolash Augurs no less.
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>>155334821
Micolash doesn't fuck around at breakfast.
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>>155334940
Ah weird. Just so I'm clear btw how were you asking me to wait the first time? I missed that
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Shit that AoE is a one hitter. What to do about that one?
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>>155326603
What's your stats?

The AR listed on Mugenmonkey doesn't have any gems, and remember to look at the numbers on the weapon's physical damage. Not the AR screen, because that includes Arcane damage which you arnt calculating in your formula.
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>>155335683
You dodge A Call Beyond by waiting for the projectiles to start flying and then rolling towards him. Additionally, he usually only casts it when he has some distance between the two of you, so if you keep the pressure on him it'll reduce the chance of him casting it.

Sometimes he just does it anyway though, so be careful.
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>>155335849
Ah gotcha thanks. Wanna try again?
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>>155335750
>What's your stats?
>>155331680

I was trying to make sure I had the formula understood so I could tinker with different gem setups, but I couldn't get the physical damage to add up. I kept getting 300-something, even though it's only 292.
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>>155334286
That would just be +15 Flat bolt that came on a Waning/Trigangle Nourishing Abyssal. It probably translates to 1-3 actual bolt damage due to enemy efenses, all it really does is add the Lightning effect.
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Can anybody lend a hand for me against Abhorrent Beast in Ailing Loran Layer 3?

Ringing at the fog wall. Password is bbg
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>>155336190
Be there in a minute
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>>155336190
make sure your beckoning bell isn't xed out for being too close, ringing
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>>155336520
>>155336548
Got it; ringing at the stairs.

Thanks, lads
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Waiting for the other guy before we go in
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>>155336857
just go ahead without me
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Thanks Gregor! Top tier cheese that was. Were you trying to do that the first time when I didn't hold up?
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>>155337000
No problem.

Thanks for the hand, Blaze. Really appreciate it
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>>155337134
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>>155337105
Golly gee, I wonder. :^)

You were making the initial chase way more complicated than it needed to be, by the way. He follows a predictable path, and that's directly away from you. So if you chase him to the right spot, you can turn back around and herd him into the room where he stops running and actually fights instead. Just for future reference.
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>>155337236
Yeah I found myself wondering that, that he was getting to the room a lot faster when you were the one in front. Guess that just takes some figuring out?
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What if you did a 25/50 HMLS build with one Heavy Abyssal, one Arcane Abyssal, and one Norishing Abyssal?
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>>155337419
>25str with a heavy
???
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>>155336053
At +10 HMS has 180 Physical damage and 100 Arcane damage. It's STR scaling is 0.8, it's SKL scaling is 0.6 and it's ARC scaling is 1.0.

At 16 STR your saturation is 0.23, (this is because at 10 in a stat it's 0.05, and gains an extra 0.03 for each point in STR until 25).
At 42 SKL your saturation is 0.738 (because at 25 in a stat it equals 0.5 and gains an extra 0.014 for each point in SKL until 50).
At 43 ARC your saturation is 0.752, same reason as above.

________________________________

So, without any gems your damage is:

[180] + [180 * 0.8 * 0.23] + [180 * 0.6 * 0.738] = 292 Physical damage
and,
[100] + [100 * 1.0 * 0.752] = 175 Arcane Damage.

________________________________

Which lines up exactly with what Mugenmonkey says.
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>Invading in Mergo's Loft
>Get a guy in full Graveguard with an untricked Ludwig's
>Expect him to do something a smart person would do instead of being a literal monkey
>He just keeps hitting R1
>"Surely he'll realize this will get him killed. I'll do this to catch him!"
>R1R1R1R1
>Die to this shitter because I overestimated how smart he was

Feels bad.
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>>155337495
Well, I had all the right numbers after I caught the incorrect Skl scaling. I guess I was just doing the math wrong.
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>>155337853
Where'd you get 0.32 for STR saturation from? That's what screwed it up.
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>>155337834
Always parry r1 spamming shitters. Don't even visceral if you want to break their habit. Memeblade users usually suck ass or hit like trucks if they're smart enough to use Chalice Dungeon gems with 50/50 Str/Skl.
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>>155338543
>Memeblade
LHB?
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>>155338543
I didn't parry because I'm using the Wheel, can't shoot my gun. I don't know why I thought he would do something even remotely intelligent though, I saw him swinging around the straight sword.
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>>155338352
I'm fucking dyslexic. I thought I was using .23.
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>>155338657
Yeah
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>>155338845
So you r1 spammed back with the Wheel? Should've just dash r1 the shit out of him.
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>>155339045
No, I didn't R1 spam. I did R2's and jump attacks because I thought he would do something smart, but he just kept mashing.
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>>155338845
A U G U R
U
G
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>>155339335
Like I said, I thought he'd do something smart, not just keep mashing. I'd have used Augur if I expected him to be braindead, but for some reason I didn't.
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>>155338352
While you're here, if you're still here, could you tell me how Abyssals work? At 50 Arc HMLS has 100 +(100*1.0*.85) right? Shouldn't an Abyssal (+65) bump that to 100+(100*1.0*1.5), for 250? I'm only getting 240 in-game.
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NEW THREAD

>>155339789
>>155339789
>>155339789
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So I'm doing an Arcane HLMS,

Do I HAVE to go 25STR/50ARC, or can I sit at base STR?

What is the reason for going 25/50 instead of base/50? I never understood this.
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>>155339437
Scaling gems boost scaling, not saturation.

So without gems it's:

[100] + [100 * 1.00 * 0.85]

With +65 ARC scaling it becomes

[100] + [100 * 1.65 * 0.85]
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>>155339986
base str means a super shitty untricked form and a weaker tricked form aside from the beams
hmls is really more of a quality weapon than an arc weapon so maximizing the arc on it means you're only optimally using the moves that release beams which is a fraction of the moveset
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>>155339986
25 is a softcap for stats, 20+ allows you to use the Wheel, and the sword is more of a Str/Quality/Arc weapon than pure Arc.You could leave it at base stats with 50+ Arc but untricked it'll be really gimped. Tricked still scales a bit with Str too.
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>>155339986
>What is the reason for going 25/50 instead of base/50? I
Pic related

>>155340108
>base str means a super shitty untricked form
That's a bit of an exaggeration. The R2 shits all over everything else the sword can do regardless of gem configuration. It actually makes me resent the damn thing despite it being my favorite weapon.
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>>155340320
it's not an exaggeration, the r2 is a strong move but using it with base stats and nourishing gems compared to 50str and the same gems is a huge difference, much less with phys gems, and a lot of the strength of the r2 is taking trades with the hyper armor and if you don't do enough damage to win the trade it's pointless
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>>155340320
The trick attacks also get a really good arc damage multiplier iirc, especially the tricked to untricked explosion
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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