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The thread fucking died and Kevin is ashamed of all of you edition

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>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then all the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
>Winter: Industrial arrays, drilling platforms
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov ??: http://updates.eveonline.com/coming/fall/ click through for devblog links on F2P and LINKS, plus teasers for rorqual reworks, industry structures, visual updates AND also free stuff, plus a new ship
>Oct 28: Eve Vegas
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I

Past:
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 20: NC/PL dunk CO2/TEST in SH1-, biggest fight since B-R http://imgur.com/a/YhwzU
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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Join Broski.

If ur good.
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Eve has the worst crafting system I've ever seen. Fuck all no profit to be made until you're max skilled multi-billion implanted fucker producing in the ass end of nowhere and shipping it.
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Sansha wolfgirls where
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>>155112574
It's called not living in jita.
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>crafting
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>crafting
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>he doesn't have his own recipe originals
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>>155112574

>Why can't I just make copper pauldrons of the whale and sell them to an NPC vendor
>I can't be bothered to study the market and make a spreadsheet

Fuck off retard. Eve industry is about being an industrial magnate not a fucking village blacksmith.
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>copper
>not bronze
Fucking noskill poors here.
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>free minerals
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>oneiros
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>>155121042

>Not telling all your armor gang bros to swap their token ancil. For a reactive and undocking the single most baller space priest mobile in the game and fucking up no logi gangs twice your size.
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>general up for 3 hours
>16 posts
pathetic desu i don't even play eve but i definitely won't now
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>>155121967
At least you bumped it.
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>>155122051
DEM CARTELS ARE SCAAAARY
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So are these in station adverts supposed to remind me of MGS4?
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Where do most blueprints come from (inb4 CCP)?
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CCP
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They've supplied BPOs but no more? Why should BPOs even be?
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The one little addition I want is increased station activity and CCP looks to have abandoned the project..
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>>155125383

the only thing next to stations are station gamers and sensor boosted shit trying to kill flashy stuff that lags and can't dock in time.

3-d walking in stations won't really add anything.
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Station activity?
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>>155125383
Open the door first.
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>le walking in staions meemay
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Why do Cynos last 10 minutes?

Why can't there be a meta cyno version that has reduced duration?

Why can't the skill reduce the duration of a cyno?

seems kind of dumb just to take an alt, light a cyno and stay there for 10 minutes pointlessly
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>>155127383
why is it dumb?

I guess you could convince ccp to increase the duration and then add things to reduce it back to the normal time
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>>155127517
>why is it dumb?

Because I only use like 10 seconds to light a cyno, move a carrier or JF and stuff

Even in hot drops in large fleet engagements, cynos are only used for like a minute before shit stops coming through. 10 minutes is really long for no other reason than siege and triage being 10 minutes long some 6 years ago. So triage and siege got reduced but cynos didn't. What sense is there in a 10 minute "let my alt just sit there" module
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>>155127731
the idea is you need to have some balls and commit to something if you want to jump capitals in
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>>155127863
>commit to something
this isn't even committing, this is just being stuck in space for 10 minutes while your friendly capitals all pour in in less than a minute

I mean if I lit a cyno on a carrier, I was already committed to dropping some 30 supers and titans just to nail your ass
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>>155126010
it will add sci-fi immersion and expand the universe, faggot

can you not get it through your shitty, tiny brain that other people might have different interests than you?
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>>155127981
it also lets people see what you're doing more easily. I mean this is the idea, I'm not saying it works

there's a lot more to consider than how easy it is for you to move muh jump freighter or whatever
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>>155128059
Yeah, desperate autistic ERPers having their safe space is totally expanding the universe.
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>>155129530
>desperate
>autistic
>ERPers

Not an argument.

>having their safe space is totally expanding the universe.

How is it any difficult than now? People who undock still would, bears will be bears. Nothing changes you stuck up piece of shit.

Not an argument.
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Eog is...
- a room full of ass-mad bitters waiting to tear down anyone they can
- dogla and William Smith posters
- polarized Mach memers
- one random new person per week who doesn't stick around because of all the ass-mad bitters shitting on their thoughts constantly.
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>>155130487
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>Oruze Cruise
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>frequent eog posters
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>cwosont
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>>155129784
If nothing changes then why do you want WIS
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>>155110335
>>155111315
>>155112859
>>155118010
>>155129784
>>155130538
>>155131202
>>155131063
>>155130961
>>155130538

Holy fucking shit this general has had AIDS riddled battery acid injected directly into its life support system. You all are a disgrace to what Eve stands for. content creation.

Kill yourselves.
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>you will never purge Gallente degenerates with your Deteis gf
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>>155132295
thanks for the content friend
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>>155132295
>t. /v/bros faggot
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>>155132295
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>>155110230
pls gib ratting fit
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drones, 2LSE, invuln, 100mn
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>100mn
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>SC losing machs to Aftershite barghests
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>>155135407
its unironically really good pve wise and pvp wise its harder to keep the initial tackle because of how fast they orbit if you don't have webs or tons of neuts
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>>155136043
>oh shit someone's trying to tackle me
>fuck my align time is 30 seconds
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>>155135929
why barghest what the hell
why not typhoons, half the cost and does the same thing
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>>155136238
barghest has basically no missile travel time, and has 50% more alpha

and being pirate ships they probably have 50% more ehp than t1, so you can do well at tank blobs online
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>>155136136
>turn mod off
>hit ctrl space
>align
>warp
wooooww
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>>155136379
>and being pirate ships they probably have 50% more ehp than t1
its probably less but I guess the biggest reason is the travel time.
Still it has 1 less low and costs more than twice, and they're losing some of them, its not like they are safe just for being so expensive.
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>>155136808
it's pretty dumb to say it's always better to use more cost effective ships. groups are limited by the number of pilots they can field. they can't just bring twice as many ships that each cost half as much
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Somebody do a kickstarter with me
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>>155128059
yeah let's put the 4 devs they have left to work for a year on a shitty walking simulator no one will ever use.
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would you empress catiz
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>>155137723

Post a full body pic for reference.
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>>155136447
>not passive aligning
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>piloting memes in afk-ratting ships
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What's the most rewarding place to farm?
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>>155142090
Jove space
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>Amarr
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so who wins the AT?
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>>155145287
Highest briber.
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>>155145287
one of the teams with infinite isk and a shitload of AT ships, just like all the previous tournaments
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>only 1 bling ship allowed
>only 1 AT ship allowed
bads gotta whine
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Daily reminder theres no reason to use the Moros over the nag
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>>155146538
Armor fleet
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>>155146630
An armor nag is better believe it or not
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>>155146630
What your subcap fleet brings to battle doesn't fucking matter with dreads. You can bring any dread, armor or shield. When in siege you can't receive reps so who cares if you bring a shield nag to an armor fleet. Dreads die in siege so often you'll never be able to come out and get reps greater than what the enemy fleet is putting out
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>>155145287
PL
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>>155147246
who?
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>>155147038
>make it out of siege
>these minokawas will rep my armour right?
>guys where's my armour links
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>>155148849
NC pet alliance.
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>SC pinging to down vote reddit posts
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caw
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>>155149060
Ah the guys that are not strong enough to hold sov, so they run to lowsec? Pathetic.
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>sov holders
>strong
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>holding something
>doesn't require strength
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>>155150198
t. goon
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>>155150868
Current sovholders are in power only because it takes massive autistic effort to actually wipe someone from the map.
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Daily reminder that golem is superior in every single way
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>>155151489
a.k.a. strength, pl scrub
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>>155151249
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>>155151650
No, not strenght. Just idiots willing to magic wand an entire enemy territory.
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>>155151814
in others strength
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>>155151249
>>155151760
what?
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>>155151645
>disgusting jew nose
>gross broken wings
>0m/s
>can buy 1 golem or 10 ravens
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>tfw russians will never unite and burn nullsec
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>>155152408
I think you will find that the golem has better bonuses, better asthetics and is way more versatile than the filth which is the raven. Hence why it is better in every single way.
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Somebody post a fit for me to fly? Sub 25M?
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>>155153431
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>>155151645
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>>155153362
>0m/s
>versatile

the aesthetics are shit tier

I am way jelly of that tp bonus though
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Why not just ban AT ships from the tournament?
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>>155156697
no reason not to
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>>155156697

When else would you get the opportunity to kill one?
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>>155160037
>you
implying even 90% of eve players has ever even seen one

they should do mini-tournaments inside the AT that allows owners of the AT ships to bet their ships vs 10 randomly selected players in EVE with whatever ship they are currently flying when they get asked or teleported to the AT system.

If the players win they get to choose 5 free skins from the Store or some shit.
If the AT pilot wins he gets a new meme citadel for his corp or a new skin.


There AT ships and their pilots get to stroke some ego and it harms nobody.
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>Undocking

You guys dont actually fall for this meme right?
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>mfw just got ganked by code faggots

sigh, I don't even get annoyed, why do they keep doing it? do some people actually give them tears?
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>>155161241
It's easy kills
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>>155161241
its very safe big easy kills with no risk what so ever.
they are also occasionally profitable.

In a game with a community and killboards that keep people afraid of undocking because of anxiety and shame, highsec suicide killing bypasses all of that.

You basically can never be told you are bad, or made fun of because your deaths are supposed to happen.
Your fits are never wrong because they have been theorycrafted for 10 years and people constantly keep up with the changes so nobody can make fun of you there.
There is really no losing at all.
Suicide ganking is how you win EVE.

Unless you are not a gigantic faggot and likes having fun doing his own thing, with consequences and real danger
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>>155160037
this meme is awful. by them fielding an AT ship and 'giving you the chance to kill one', they are securing like 50 more AT ships for themselves
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>>155161796
Danger? in eve? Christ get the fuck out with even mentioning that.
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>the vengeance is bad meme
when will this meme die?

https://zkillboard.com/kill/56060525/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/56029242/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/55976174/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/55839213/
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>>155162026
I imagine people will attempt to bring the fiend because it's such an amazing kite ship, has amazing resists, dps and speed
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>>155161796
>You basically can never be told you are bad
Ganks can fail. Of course that would imply the victim had a brain, probably too much to ask from highsec babbies.
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>>155153634
>torps

Use cruise missiles, they have better application. Capital tops are so bad they can't apply more than some 50% of their paper dps to other capitals
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>>155162318
It's slot layout at least gets something for solo, beats the other Amarr AssFrig any day.
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>>155153634
>haha i make le funnay officer fits in eft iam so le ebin
>osmium
>no shield extenders
>estamel invulns possibly don't even exist in game
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>>155149054
>make it out of siege
Oh so the battle is over?
>minokawa pls rep me
Triage would never give you reps. Dreads are designed to die in max dps and staying on field as long as they can while in siege

If you come out of siege you're either retarded or you won the battle, refit for cap and jump out
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Could someone give me a quick, cheap, and agile cruiser fit for killing miners in nullsec

I'm a noob, and I've been sticking mostly with exploration so far, but I'd like to try my hand at collecting tears
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I spent the last 8h mining ice in hisec for 30mil/h

How does that make you feel?
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>>155163570
hyper gnosis, dual rep vexor, brick thorax, brick rupture
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>>155163570
or did you mean kiting by agile?
caracal, stabber, rails thorax
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>Stabber
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>>155162346
more like because it has the broken hic scram and memeburner bonus
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>>155167203
>I can't come up with ANY original points so I'll just use the word "meme" to describe everything
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>>155162687
>siege is nearly over
>ship is getting shot at by many bad guys
>hmm, should I go siege red and get reps?
>no, anon says I must kill myself, those are the rules
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>>155167340
>implying your moros is buffer fit
a nag makes a better armor tank because it isn't wasting cap on guns and shit.

the nag is superior in every way
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>>155167340
They are tho, please kys
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>your moros
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>>155167634
By that logic, an armor tanked raven is superior to a hyperion, good job anon.
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>stabber
>kiting by agile
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>>155167819
The nag won't waste huge amounts of cap running guns, it also doesn't have the rep cycle time bonus for armor that makes the moros so stupidly cap unstable.

Congrats you have a moros that can tank some 40k DPS but a nag's single ancil repper can beat a moros' armor repper and ancil armor repper combined.

The moros is a steaming hot pile of garbage and has nothing over a nag

>Fozzie: guys I got an idea, lets give the moros a cycle time bonus to capital armor reps, then give it a rate of fire bonus, then make its guns use MORE cap than lasers. Then we'll give it less optimal and fall off range than a nag's guns, then we'll have it do the same DPS as the nag with no selectable damage. To give someone a reason to use the moros over the nag, we'll give it 3% more tracking to compensate. Also lets give it the nag more cap and better cap regen.
>Moros capacitor depletes in 1m25s
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>>155168073
>Fozzie: let's also not fix ASBs, it's totally 100% fine for them to use 0 cap
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>>155168193
yes
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>>155168073
>but a nag's single ancil repper can beat a moros
For all of 30s until it runs out of charges.
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>>155168193
Its not that ASB's are too good, its that Fozzie basically said "lets make armor reppers in general use the same cap amount as shield boosters but we'll triple the cycle duration and that means they're more efficient with no bonus over shield boosters regardless
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>>155168259
You have enough buffer to last till it reloads.

I mean seriously, a single shield booster out does TWO fucking armor reppers one of which is ancil itself. The moros is flat out shit and has nothing over the nag
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>>155168440
Nobody is fucking forcing to fly it you colossal faggot.
>GUYS GUYS LE MOREOS LE BAD LE Xdd EVERY THERAD HAHA HEHE HIHI LXDKK XdDD
Simply epic. Biomass irl
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>>155168625
>hahaha just ignore the moros, don't fly it, see balance fixed!
>we don't need to balance the moros just don't use it
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>nobody is forcing you to play the game xd
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>>155168684
YES JESUS CHRIST you massive faggot. Just like nobody flies stabbers because they are garbage and we have more viable alternatives.

>guys guys ship x is bad
>yeah ok, just fly this better alternative
>OMG NO SHIP X IS BAD LOOK AT ME
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>>155166829
stabber is really good against frigs and miners
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>>155168808
people would be pissed about stabbers if t1 cruisers weren't only usable for meme-tier pvp
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>>155168808
>CCP shouldn't balance underwhelming ships because you can simply not use it and that fixes the problem
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>>155168808
>If I don't think about the issues they don't exist!
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>stabber

>>155168895
There is no problem. You don't complain about indian cars being shit. You simply don't fucking buy them-
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>stabber is bad
I want all skill-less brawl fags to go off my /eog/
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>>155169118
>There is no problem.
The problem is that dreads aren't balanced between the nag and the moros. The moros has literally nothing over the nag

You think I'm lying but you look it up in pyfa or eft and you'll find the nag is better in every single way

I mean holy shit the nag has more cap and more cap regen than the moros and the moros uses More cap does this make any sense at all?
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>>155169339
so just fly the nag faggot
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>>155169339
I don't think you are lying. You are just endlessly bitching about an issue that you can fix by FLYING THE FUCKING NAG
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>>155169274
b8
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Stabber is literally worse than assfrigs.
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BRAWL FAGS
GET OFF MY FUCKING EOG
BRAWL FAGS
YOU HAVE NO SKILL
BRAWL FAGS
YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS OF THE KITEMAN AND HIS SUPERIOR SKILL
BRAWL FAGS
STOP SHITPOSTING
BRAWL FAGS
ON SUICIDE WATCH
BRAWL FAGS
JUST STOP POSTING
BRAWL FAGS
YOU WILL NEVER BE AS ALPHA AS CHESSUR THE KITEMAN HIMSELF
BRAWL FAGS
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT FEATHERING IS
BRAWL FAGS WISH THEY COULD KITE ON FULL T2 FIT
STOP FUCKING GODDAMN BRAWL NIGGERS
BRAWL NIGGERS ONLY CARE ABOUT MUH DPS AND MUH APPROACH BUTTON
BRAWL FAGS WILL NEVER BE GOOD
BRAWL FAGS STAY THE FUCK OUT OF DOG
BRAWL FAGS STAY ON /V/ BROS WITH THE WORTHLESS BROSKI NIGGERS
BRAWLSHITTERS NEVER COME BACK
YOU WILL NOT BE MISSED
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>le align to sun and turn on mwd face
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>>155172092
>this is what brawl fags think kiting is all about
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>I slow down sometimes until they feed me more tacklers
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>kitefags admitting to being in /v/ bros
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I WASN'T AWARE THAT TIGHTS AREN'T USED AS BOTTOMS FOR DRESSES FUCK YOU CCP I SPENT MONEY

Thanks for the god damn shitty high shool tier dress code its really like I'm 15 again
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>>155173136
>15
>school
>no pants

My god it's a literal nightmare
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>>155173236
What
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>>155173274
Salami doesn't make for the best breakfast food.

Heed these words wisely.
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>>155173352
What
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>>155173410
A highly seasoned sausage, originally from Italy, usually eaten cold in slices, is not a more desirable or suitable choice of a nutritious substance that people or animals eat or drink in order to maintain life and growth, specifically within the period of time between midnight and noon; Especially from sunrise to noon.
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>>155173848
Okay
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>>155173879
>>
So, does anyone else think that tracking computers don't really get used as much as they could be because there's so much other shit you have to cram in your mids? The alternative are tracking enhancers which are completely worthless. I wish CCP would just pull tracking enhancers out of the game and make tracking computers a low-slot mod.
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>>155149170
Just typical SC behavior.
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>>155160715
You want to see an AT ship? Just go to Amamake, like 75% of the time there are a couple undocked.
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>>155161241
> do some people actually give them tears?

Have you been reading minerbumping lately?
You should.
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>That one ship from the faction you hate that you can't help but have a forbidden love for

Name her
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>>155176002
I use and enjoy tracking enhancers
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>>155179985
none, i'm not a pleb
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>>155179985
nightmare
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>>155176002
>tracking enhancers which are completely worthless.

I have several fits that use them, why worthless?

>>155179985
Drake
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>>155111482
what if im not ready to embrace jesus in my heart?
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>broski
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>>155162346
PL is actually fielding the fiend this AT and it's a huge pain in the dick to fight.

We killed it on Thunderdome once. Lost the match afterwards of course.
>>
I'm too scared to transfer my plex from Perimeter to Jita. Am I supposed to do it my ship with the most EHP or in a shuttle?
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>>155193446
You can remotely activate plex for yourself or one of your other accounts anon. There is no need to transfer it to Jita unless you want to stockpile it there.

If you really must, a nimble ship with a lot of ehp would be your best bet, assuming your corp doesn't have any wardecs.
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>>155191975
It'll be super fun to see how it performs against other team setups

If Pl is certain to bring the fiend then it'd be best to have a hard counter ready like a double web huginn
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>>155194064
Nothing is ever certain with PL in the AT, but they do seem to field the same comp every time in the practice matches.

Misdirection or just trying to get really good at it? No idea.
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>>155155075

>0m/s for one minute
>100km instatravel every minute

I don't need to move, I can hit you from here.
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>>155194716
>lel you can't scram me
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>>155195602

Well if you come to scram range I can neut/nos you.
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>nos
>>
>having imaginary 1v1 fights
>if you x in this specific scenario I just made up, then y

Kill yourselves
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>>155195708
also stupid because >marauder tank
>>
>unbonused neuts
>probalby a shitter who fits heavy neuts for epic 30 second cycle
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>>155195924
>not fitting a heavy and a small/medium to first wipe out all his cap and then keep it dry
Unless he's amarr of course in which case he'll cap himself dry anyway.
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>guys pls talk about my bhaalgorn
>>
>shitter shattered you got neuted and raped by a bhaalgorn
>>
>implying I give a shit about neuts
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>optimal 7500m
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>>155196336
>I can't cycle my resistance mods, reppers or guns
>but at least I get to scram him!
>>
>>155196473
yeah tacklers fit those things all the time
>>
>implying you'll get within scram range in the first place
>>
>implying I'm not already within scram range
>>
>implying I'm still on grid
>>
51km
>>
flat resists
>>
POLARIZED

MEME

CARACALS
>>
>>
>he can't use t2 tps
>>
>he fits a T2 microwarpdrive
>>
>that one guy who unironically thinks t2/faction/deadspace mwds aren't trash
>>
>>155197319
Doesn't matter.

>>155197349
It fits.
>>
>t2 tp
>Doesn't matter

kys
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>>155197423
>he genuinely believes a T2 microwarpdrive is better than the meta
how.new.ru
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>>155197406
>what is speed, cap penalty, cap usage
>>
>well more speed is always a good thing right, so I'll pay 100m for an extra 0.1%
>le poors lmao
>>
>I never used it but I' so le knowledge so I know what it is about
>>
>No anon, you aren't allowed to buy good mods because it upsets people
>>
Before you start spouting horseshit, compare the stats of a meta mwd to the T2 mwd and then come back.
>>
>FC, I'm bringing my huginn with dank faction webs
>No anon, you can't. Bring a bellicose instead.
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>>155197480
T2 microwarp drives use more capacitor, have the same sig penalty, and it gets you like 2% more speed

There's a reason no one uses t2 mwd. The benefit of slightly higher speed isn't worth the cap penalty, much higher cap usage and same sig penalty
>>
>>155197948
I'm glad no one on /eog/ is an fc, or in charge of making doctrine decisions
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>>155200181
We should make a roam with /dog/ memefits.
>>
>doctrine
you mean fleet
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>>155200242
Inb4 tons of fits that are absolutely trash

Tons of punisher, golem, bellicose, that one garbage plate rep omen, that xlasb rupture, and no logi of course that makes it blobby
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>>155200460
And arty vagabonds and plated hounds
>>
Don't forget the polarized memechariels
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>>155200456
No its a doctrine you fucking memelord
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>>155200675
arty panthers too!
>>
So are any of you fags participating in the AT?
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>>155197229

That's got the EHP of a destroyer. You'll probably die to a single frigate.
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>>155200460

Can I bring my anti-tackle raven?
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>>155203214
>polarized ships have no ehp
Wow, who would've thought!
>>
>>155203214
>ehp of a destroyer
I hope you mean a T3 because regular destroyers have piss poor hp.
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>>155203214
>single frigate
>killing a caracal
Even though he fit retarded HAMs, it still would BTFO any frigate with that kind of dps, a TP and a web.
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>>155168808
Stabber's the fastest ship for the role. The damage and application is fine for the fact that nobody can catch it. Unfortunately, it has the cap of a fucking MicroSizer.

What alternatives? The Caracal is just going to have to reload and can't outfly anything except ABs.
>>
>>155206778

It applies less than 300dps to an AB frigate. You may as well use a destroyer, it won't cost you 275 million ISK.
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>>155207889
Don't strawman me faggot.

You claim it dies to a single frigate and it fucking won't.
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>>155200242
>>155200460
>>155200675
>>155201084
>>155202261

Zira stop posting
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>>155208798
no u
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>>155208798
>>
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/53c274/i_have_161_accounts_and_249_sp_farming_alts_im/
>>
>>155209030
>unironically linking reddit
I guess we're supposed to laugh at his alleged autism or something?

He exploited the system on a massive scale to make isk the likes of which your meme'ing ass can only dream, so get fucked nigger.
>>
>>155208213
punisher may have enough buffer to absorb a reload
>>
>>155208213

Why are you defending an objectively shit fit this hard?

Yes, congratulations, I was using hyperbole to emphasise how much of a waste of money that fit is.

Doesn't change the fact that it will die to anything it can apply its full dps to, and apply less dps than a 30 mil RLML caracal to anything smaller.
>>
>>155209546
If you were at any point under the impression that the anon who posted that fit wasn't having a laugh then I truly feel sorry for you.
>>
With bonused application and crash, CNI can kill even frigs, but you should prolly not using rages.
>>
>with bonused application, drugs, links and a titan doomsday it can probably kill frigs
>>
>hurr durr its not rlml so it doesn't exist
>my slavemasters in PH told me so
>>
>>155211070
>t. elite highsec pvp'er
>>
>this mental gymnastics
>>
Dessies should get a speed buff. Tech 3s go like 3k, but tech 1s can't hit 2k.
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>>155212261
That's not how this works.

You don't just buff everything to compensate for T3's being OP. You nerf the fucking T3's.
>>
https://zkillboard.com/kill/55950909/
>>
https://zkillboard.com/kill/54948749/
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>>155212852
>as if T3s are OP because of 3k MWD stats
Going fast is just fun. If you're trying to take T3Ds, fit a TD and git gud.
>>
>>155212883
At least he was cap stable.
>>
>>155212883
>>155213041
>ravenfags
>>
>>155213042
If you just want to go fast, you can just use a fucking frigate m8.
>>
Is CNR the ship with the most retarded lossess?
>>
>>155213445
pretty sure that award goes to shuttles/noobships with plex/injectors
>>
>>155213510
he probably means a ship with actual fitting
>>
>>155213510
They aren't fit tho.
>>
>>155213321
Frigates are underflown, so the target selection is shoddy.
>>
Make it stop
https://zkillboard.com/kill/56108711/
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>talking shit about plate rep omen

wow fuck you faggot
>>
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Fleet Issue Bellicose when?
>no painter bonus
>>
Ask a coalition level FC anything (except my alliance/corp).
>>
Imperial Navy Punisher when?
>>
>>155214758
How do you not burn out while herding cats?

Especially with faggots like
>lmao can i bring my draek
>can I bring a target painting bellicose FC?
>i thought he said jump
>align where FC?
>>
>>155214841
Why? Just fix the Punisher's lock range and stuff, as it can barely lock at Aurora range, unmodded.
>>
>>155215274
Because fuck you it's a punisher
>>
>>155215274
Just give the punisher a third mid
>>
>>155214968
Mindset.

Don't do it if you are on edge, if you got problems at work/gf/whatever. Only do it when you are in a good mood. That way you can absorb a certain amount of shit before it turns you sour. Never yell.

Don't be afraid to kick people if they are complete retards. The fleet is yours, do as you see fit.

desu I get more annoyed by the other FCs in the FC channel than the retards with drakes.
>>
>>155214758
how do you deal with shitter FCs?

they invite me along for roams, and I spend the entire time backseat FCing. I just can't help it a lot of the time when they're really bad
>>
>>155215770
Unplug your mic.

No seriously just yell at the screen instead to make you feel better.
>>
>>155215841
I feel like that's not helpful to them
>>
>>155215485
Then it would be just another frigate. It's supposed to be a mini Slicer.
>>
>>155215770
Convo one on one and explain what they are doing wrong. Never talk about it with other people around, whether on comms or in chat/forum. Don't be an autist even if they are, act like you are talking to someone at work.

1. They see the reasoning and adapt thus becoming better and more tolerable. Job done.

2. They are edgy fuckers that think they are perfect. You have two options here: either let them die on the vine, people will stop joining their fleets in time or take it to your leader and demand the junior FC be removed.
>>
>>155216018
do not post
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>>155216000
If you can calmy state what they are doing wrong in a constructive manner, all the better. Still that doesn't mean they will be receptive to your advice. Depends on the FC but a lot of the time, FC's can be know-it-all fuckfaces so you're basically preaching to a wall.
>>
>>155214413
It's garbage
>>
>>155216018
>mini slicer
>huge mass
>slow as fuck

Thats like saying the Maller is like the omen Navi issue
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>>155217091
Why meme?
>>
>empty low
>>
>>155218065
>pertinent to the topic
>>
kiteposter pls go
>>
>empty low
>>
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BRAWL FAGS
GET OFF MY FUCKING EOG
BRAWL FAGS
YOU HAVE NO SKILL
BRAWL FAGS
YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS OF THE KITEMAN AND HIS SUPERIOR SKILL
BRAWL FAGS
STOP SHITPOSTING
BRAWL FAGS
ON SUICIDE WATCH
BRAWL FAGS
JUST STOP POSTING
BRAWL FAGS
YOU WILL NEVER BE AS ALPHA AS CHESSUR THE KITEMAN HIMSELF
BRAWL FAGS
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT FEATHERING IS
BRAWL FAGS WISH THEY COULD KITE ON FULL T2 FIT
STOP FUCKING GODDAMN BRAWL NIGGERS
BRAWL NIGGERS ONLY CARE ABOUT MUH DPS AND MUH APPROACH BUTTON
BRAWL FAGS WILL NEVER BE GOOD
BRAWL FAGS STAY THE FUCK OUT OF DOG
BRAWL FAGS STAY ON /V/ BROS WITH THE WORTHLESS BROSKI NIGGERS
BRAWLSHITTERS NEVER COME BACK
YOU WILL NOT BE MISSED
>>
>>155217831
>Not swapping the DCUII to a compact
>Not swapping the heat sink II to a compact
>Not putting on a second compact heats sink with the CPU you saved
>>
>>155219203
>/v/ bros

I like that cynabal, good brawl ship
>>
>button
>not radial menu
>>
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>kitefag has to let me go because he cannot get enough dps on me
>kill him when we both land off station next to each other
>>
>>155219741
>kill him when we both land off station next to each other

this is my favourite shit

also

>warps pod to station with weapons timer
>I kill him with like 3s weapons timer left
>>
>Warp to station without an insta-dock
>not in range
>>
>>155219741
>shit that never happens
>>
>>155221386
happens literally all the time
>>
Can someone give me a vexor ratting fit? i got t2 drones up to medium, still training heavy t2
>>
>>155222907
Not everyone kites with autocannons.
>>
>kiting AC punisher
>>
>>
>>155225598
at last, anon's cap problems are solved
>>
Did they finish walking on stations addon yet?
>>
>>155225598
>3.8k @ 3200
>with arty tracking

Wew.
>>
>>155221386
done it a few times on their citadels
>>
>>155225598
this is a pretty garbage fit, I'd rather just fly any other ship
>>
>unironically not flying a punisher
>>
Why play EVE when you could play a good space game instead?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/396750/?snr=1_4_4__130_12
>>
>>155233792
lol
>>
>>155212883
>CARGO WAS FULL OF BPOS
what the fuck is this meme
>>
>>155225784
no
>>
>>155233792
Multiplayer?
>>
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>>155196473
>drones
>projectiles
>missiles
>energized membrane/wards
>you having 10 curse alts to neut me
aye lmao
>>
proteus active tank pvp fit with 1,5k+ omni dps tank?
>>
>republic fleet fusion L
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>omni dps
>>
>drone synthesis projector
>>
>small warp core optimizer II
>>
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daily reminder that amarr have the best haulers
>>
>bestower
>ever
>>
Found myself a cancer ridden hive.
>>
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>core probe launcher
>1
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>undocking
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>>155240656
Funny. I'm connected too.
>>
GUYS WE SHOULD GET TOGETHER AND RUB DICKS WHILE SHITPOSTING ON DOG
>>
>>155238804
>white
>master race
/pol/ pls
>>
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>>155179985

Purifier
>>
>just spent half an hour making bellicose fits
>>
>>155242784
so post them
>>
>>155242903
they're all fucking terrible, I got nothing
>>
>beta map
>new dscan
>new scanning
>>
>>155244112
nothing wrong with the new dscan, it has a fucking hotkey
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Who /industry/ here?
>>
>not comfy gas mining
>>
>>155216070
Stop talking shit about boat he is a good FC
>>
in DCSS, is there a point in training a weapon skill beyond the necessary for maximum attack speed?

like, does it increases damage or accuracy or anything else?
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>>155246948
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my frigate > your frigate
>>
>Amarr
>>
>>155244691
I thought about it, then realised I was never gonna make it work without 10 accounts
>>
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you're tank is shit
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>>155255218
>tfw can't run anything but potato graphics
>>
>>155244691
>>
All-Out managed to successfully roll a hole. I'm actually impressed.
>>
>>155255650
you are months late
>>
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post frigates
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Why aren't you in Broski anon?
>>
>>155240656
Wow
>>
10
>>
>>155272325
and again...
>>
ded game and ded thread

11/10 ded with 10 neut towers and 20 web ones
>>
>>155277693
ez asb golem
>>
>>155277824
the towers are out fo range for you, but can still neut your ass
>>
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>>155278076
>out of range
>golem
>>
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>mfw PL disbands
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>Safe space F1 monkeys
>Ever disbanding
>>
>wormholes
>>
>>
>tfw you make a new character and mention you wish it was a birthday for someone or a holiday or something
>tfw a friend dies that night.
>>
epic
>>
>memeing your friends to death
>>
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>tfw only rank 515 on project discovery

Not autistic enough for this.
>>
>>155282594
Why is the best looking ship in the game the most garbage ship in the game
>>
>>155287706
>implying the malediction is the most garbage ship in the game
>>
>malediction
>looking bad
>he doesn't like I AM THE ENGINE
>>
>malediction is bad
>Fit lmls max speed and orbit a ship to plink him away for 4 hours
>>
>using tackle for dps
>>
>>155289557
>39dps
>>
>>155287706
The Slicer is cool because it actually has a theme, utilizing its flat, wide layout to press against its own inertia.
>>
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How many threads did we have since the f2p announcement? Can someone make a new version?
>>
>organic minerals
>>
>>155291997
How old is this, I don't see any memes
>>
>perunga
>>
>>155293205
A few months max.
>>
>>155291461
I literally quoted a fucking punisher you retards
>>
>>155263037
Because nullsec is for shitters.
>>
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>>155293283

>tfw MI5 nicked him again
>>
>>155293552
And it's not the best looking ship.
>>
ded 11/10 ccp hq
>>
>kevin
>>
newbro here
Only one account and getting jealous of everybody around new eden running tons of alts.
how does one use a trial account and a normal one on the same computer ?

> tried the compatibility trick it's been fixed
apparently
> barely able to plex my account every month so 2 is out of the equation
> grinding null anom & ded with no scout I must afk a lot to drop the pressure of nasty gankers
> once got locked inside of a system by one guy and all his alts on all gate&wh w bubbles
> When I read reddit and see ppl with gazillion of account grinding SP injector making hundreds of b a month I cry when i sleep.
> Should I be a hero & uninstall ?
>>
>>155298573
You can use buddy invites + 1 plex to get a 50 day subbed alt for free (your main will get 30 days of gametime as a reward so the plex isn't lost).
>>
>>155298573
only fags use multiple accounts
>>
>>155299261
poor detected
>>
>>155300251
fag detected
>>
lol stay mad poor
>>
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>>
I played back in 2013 for a month (bought some starter pack thing) using my current email.

Can I still get a 21-day buddy trial on this email to make a brand new account, or would I have to use a new email?


Yes, I'm aware of the "soon" F2P stuff.
>>
Why won't this ship have a background

>>155302682
Yes.
>>
>>155302731
Nvm.
>>
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>bringing solo back
>>
>bringing solo back
>>
>bringing blobbing back
>>
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>bringing solo back
>>
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kindly
>>
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>I need links because I'm fighting against blobs
>>
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>>
>50% off all valimor legacy skins
>>
>implying I give a shit about CCP's shit tier skins
>>
Intaki skin and Roden shipyards are the only skins that matter for gallente.
>>
>not interbus
>not inner zone shipping

top pleb
>>
>interbus
Reddit popularity contest memeskin
>IZS
Who?
>>
no you're reddit
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Eve's flight model is an shit
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>>155306049
It's literally submarines anon. Not flight.
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>flight model
>in space

top pleb
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>realism
>fun
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>>155304762
I'd like to do these videos, but I can't get a KM.
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>flight model
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>>155306049
How?
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is anomic base supercarrier really that bad?
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>>155308965
The bombers are gay as fuck. I don't know tho how much the mission changed after the carrier changes.
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>anomic

wut
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>pve
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>memetic
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>algorhitm
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>organic hacking
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>dying to provi mallers

bravo goons
>>
maller is best cruiser
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You mean legion
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we are legion xd
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goons scare me
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>killboards
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how cancerous actually is bringing solo back
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>>155314793
not at all
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>>155314793
very
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>gorski in /v/bros
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>/v/ bros
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>/v/bros
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>the loner thinks hes better than everyone else
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/v/ bros best channel. everyone else gets offended
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anomic base supercarrier really is that bad

>mfw rep burns out on the 5th wave because i'm retarded
>have thermodynamics v they said
>the player operated station of me

welp
>>
who are the good AT teams
>>
>Eve players
>good
>>
Are level 3/4 Distribution missions worth doing? I assume they're less isk/h than Security but how much worse?
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>>155320945
don't waste your time on distribution mission cmon bro ...
try to aim for anything making at least 100m/h
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>>155320945
for isk/lp? not worth it.

for grinding special missions that give a large bonus to faction standing, they are the best and fastest way.

also the easiest to bot.
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>>155109559
Is BRAVE newbies worth joining? I used to play a long time ago, hardly remember anything so I started up a 21 day trial
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>brave newbies
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>>155322647
>image
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broski killed brave newbies
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brave was never alive
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>just learned of F2P
I always knew EvE was dying but that was quick
>>
>dying
>mfw 1000k players at the same time in a couple of motnhs
>>
>f2p ded baitposts
I always knew /eog/ was dying
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>>155328506
>mfw they are all Brazilian
>>
>1000k
>>
>eat shit
>I wanted to type 100k
>but 1000k works as well, faggot
>mfw 1 million subs
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>>155328975
Finally something all of EVE can unite against, that is not PL
>>
So I have a character from when I played with haters gonna hate years ago. It probably has 8 or 9M sp, so not much. Is it worth just rolling a new character and enrolling in one of those training corps to actually learn how to play, then maybe resub my main and keep the alt for alt things?
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>>155330821
You can do that with your old main, it's not like they'll reject you for not being born yesterday
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>toon
>>
>crafting
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>>155331257
Alright, was just curious, given the new F2P figured having 2 characters might be better than one is all.
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What is the most unironical t1 battleship?
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>>155332797
What the fuck does that even mean?
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Is Aion worth a try?
Also MMORPG general thread.
Reccomendations, memes, nostalgia, anthing
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>>155332797
hyperion
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>>155333019
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I want to lick maller-san clean
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>his maller isn't pure
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join all-out
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>Amarr
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>>155259468

lewd
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>>155314793
well what they are doing is not cancerous on its own, if how they do it and how they present themselves as superior players because they engage in this one activity that "oh...." so obviously few people do these days.
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>>155332797
>no IGC skin
fuck off poor person
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>>155339358
>13 bil

fucking jews I swear to god
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>>155339514
if by any chance anyone here owns it and want to sell it I'll take it right now for 10bil
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What can you bring on the SPECTRE roam anon?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11262310
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>2 spelling errors
>no bellicose/vigil/plate+rep option
>oversized prop meme
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>spectre
I would rather join goons
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>>155340627
epic
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>bwaah why is nobody flying my shitfits :(
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>oneiros
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>not flying the true fotm ship
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>not Tash-Murkon
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>>155344434
can a ship be more pure than a white punisher?
not even the purifier can get close to this levels of purity
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>>155344880
#1 frigate, kawaii as fuck
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>CSM
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>mfw /eog/ dies
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Soon, after EVE dies.
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>>155340492

>spectre blob

disgusting.
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>everything I don't like is a blob
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>>155347720
This worth watching?
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>anime
>worth watching

yes
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>>155348087
>a blob is not a blob because reasons
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>>155348889

Can be pretty confusing during the battles at points when trying to follow whats happening and the dialogue but overall it is a good watch.

>Reminder that she should have nuked the prison planet from orbit if they did not comply
>>
>how dare you co-operate in a multiplayer game
>>
Call it what you want, you're still a shameless blob.
>>
>Please don't make fun of the fact that I'm completely unskilled and the only way I can win is with vastly superior numbers.
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>n-n-no, 1v1 in novice plexes is the true EVE!!!
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>Harbinger
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>he doesn't fly shield navy harb
>>
>>
>>155353643
Holy shit a decent fit on /eog/
>>
Party in Tama.
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>that
>decent
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>>155355379
BYOC
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whats the best way of selling t2 rig bpcs?
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>when you 0,01 isk the guy who updated his order 10 sec ago
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>>155360889
feels good
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>>155360969
are you a trader?
is it easy to get into it these days?
assuming you have a few bils to start out with
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>>155326176
>13 years
>quick
Are you mentally challenged, anon?
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>>155362251
Theoretically, trading is easy
>buy low (buy orders)
>sell high (sell orders)
>in items that have enough spread (>10%) between buy and sell orders

Thing is, it's hard to find items that
>have enough spread
>are traded in big enough quantities
>aren't infested with market bots/0.01iskfags

If you feel like playing the 0.01 isk game then these last two things are less of a factor, but that is some boring as shit "gameplay" for most people.
>>
>>155364298
so ccp isnt effective at purging botters?
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>>155364373
lol fuck no

There's an anon here who posted how his bot worked (auto-it script) a week or two ago. Randomizing the time between your clicks is enough to fool their system.
>>
ASK A RUSSIAN ANYTHING
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>>155364373
bots are the excuse shitters make for not knowing how to trade
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>>155364915
Why are you all so mad when I pop your ship/pod?

Most people are only slightly annoyed but russians always go full autism mode.
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>>155364926
t. botter

There is very little skill involved in trading.
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>>155364952
It's in our nature. Don't think much of it. Better to be angry than whine no?
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>>155365161
There's normal angry and then there's russian angry.

Pretty sure if I reported what most of you guys post in local/private message you would all get a nice vacation from eve.
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>>155365358
Like I said it's in our nature, it's not personal. We just think less of you so when you kill us it makes us angry))
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>>155365413
That's rich coming from literal subhumans
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>>155366204
We are not the ones with black terrorist on the streets and multi gender bathrooms))
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>>155366260
at least we dont have putin
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>>155366260
>multi gender bathrooms
I think that's an american thing because that shit doesn't exist in yurop m8
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>>155366317
Better Putin than degeneracy))

>>155366353
Whatever, this is not about politics

AMA EVE RELATED
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>>155366382
what compels russians to go into the drone regions
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>>155366434
Very interesting to me too.

I think it is combination of the real world where we live to the east and that our first major success as Russian alliances was in that space. What now is called "ancestral home".

Having a quiet space to do what we want, a space no one else wants really, is also nice, but that came later. It's not the reason.
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> https://zkillboard.com/kill/56203196/
Okay which one of you faggots was this?
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>>155364373
It's extremely difficult to detect a bitter based on a few clicks

It's not like botter ratting or mining where there's a definite pattern of what a bit looks like. Market bots are as immiscible as players
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>>155366818
Actually when a client does the same repetitive pattern for hours on end without a single missclick, a few minutes break, opening another window or some other different activity, that does seem like something they should be able to detect if they could be assed.
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How bad is it for blitzing L4.

And should I afterburner or mwd ?
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>>155368419
m8 you shouldn't be getting hit for the most part so that armor repairer and cap battery are fairly pointless.

And you want a mwd.
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>>155368419
Those aren't polarized.

0/10 see me after class
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>>155368419
Drop the reactive armor hardener since the resist profile can be fucked with so easily
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>>155367280
Overwatch has a simple technique where they analyze the memory addresses of certain known bots or hacks then bans people if it detects these things running even if they're separate of the client itself

However with how simple scripting is it might be harder for ccp to implement that idea
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>>155368893
>level 4 missions
You are aware like 95% of those only deal 2 types of damage right
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>>155368971
Yeah, what's that bullshit called, Warden I believe?

Took Blizzard ages to get that thing working properly. It's not something a small company like CCP can pull off. Especially because CCP is shit at coding.
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>>155368893
>>155368981

yes reactive armor best resist mod. will give +30 +30 all the time or even +60% explosive against angel. nothing compare to it
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>>155369159
>+60% explosive against angel. nothing compare to it
Except angels don't do pure explosion

They do kinetic explosive and the angel seraphim does em damage surprisingly

That means your RAH is split between 20/20/20

Its better to just use flavor hardeners
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>>155369287
>having to look up each mission's damage type every time until you've memorized it
>having to swap modules out for every mission
Yeah, nah.
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>>155368419
Drop the explosive pump for Nanobot pumps or whatever they're called

I believe the machariel performs better as a shield tank so you can then fill your lows with damage and tracking stuff

Artillery isn't bad and the range is huge the machariel super rate of fire bonus makes them cycle much faster
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>>155369338
It's super simple to just change flavor hardener or just fit an a-type adaptive Nano plating which gives 30% to everything, you already blew a lot on the reppers and ship and t2 rigs
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>>155369287
it won't be 20/20/20 reactive will adapt to the damage received afaik.
eg : I got hit for 100 dmg during reactive cycle with 80exp 10em 10 kin. the module will try to reach 48% exp , 6% em , 6% kin at the start of his next cycle depending it's previous state.

plus i always fuck them up first and they spawn far away so they don't get to hit with anything but their missile
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>>155369502
Not the guy that posted the fit m8.

You don't need to put that much thought in your tank when you're in a blitzing machariel, which is basically constantly running away from the rats while blapping them from range. To be honest you should just fit a passive shield tank and you'll be fine.
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>>155369656
Nope.

If you get hit by 97% exp, 1% em, 1%kin and 1% thermal, you will get 15 - 15 - 15 -15.

That's why this module is generally shit.
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>>155369159
>ARMOR SHIPS FOR L4S
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>reactive meme hardener
Worst armor resistance module you can use unless you're brick tanking so fucking hard the stacking penalties become obscene and you're forced to use it.
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>>155369656
>it won't be 20/20/20 reactive will adapt to the damage received afaik
No it only detects the damage and bases it on that it doesn't base it on the proportion of damage which is why the RAH is shit
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>>155369735

it's not shiet imo but it's a controversial topic .

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/260fx4/reactive_armor_hardener_question/

Some say it'll fills your resist holes, other say it'll shit in proportion of damage, some say it won't.

ccplz
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>>155368419
here
Missions, and specially L4s are all about speed.
You don't want to stay on the back sniping shit like an autist, you charge in, kill what you need to kill and apply near full damage on their face and blitz towards the next objective.

I unironically like NOS in the high because smartbomb is useless for me and I'm not shit so I don't intend to get tackled.

Bling mwd and swap DCU for a nano for sanic speeds completion rate.
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>>155370273
That's because most people still think it will adapt based on percentages, so if you take 90% em damage you will get 54% em resistance.

It doesn't. There are plenty of people who have tested it. It's either
>take 4 types of damage, get +15 resistance to those 4
>take 3 types of damage, get +20 resistance to those 3
>take 2 types of damage, get +30 resistance to those 2
>take 1 type of damage, get +60 resistance to that one
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>>155370280
>Large shield booster
Before one of you faggots green texts it with a picture of a dog, you don't need more.

Adding a x-large one will just require you to fit cap modules or force you to toggle it a lot, which is more work.

You can fit it if you want but not needed.
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>>155369735
Nah, you are wrong. It works fine except for circumstances where the main damage source cycles slower than the RAH itself (e.g. 720mm artyllery hitting you). In that case, other more consistent damage sources would skew the resist profile.
In your example, you would end up with 45% explo and a spread on the others
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>>155370273
>reddit
There are tests and CCP comments on the pyfa github page that explains how it works.
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>>155370778
Imo that's shit and it should adapt based on proportion of damage received.

Other than that it's not a good module anyway. In a fleet with tons of different damage and ships its on par with a damage control.

Even then it's only 15%, by comparison an adaptive invulnerability field gives 30% to everything, uses way less cap and doesn't have some gimmick attached. A regular energized adaptive Nano membrane gives 25% which is much more useful overall
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>>155371208
No. It's not. Countless people have tested it.

45% resistance in my example also wouldn't make any sense so care to explain how you arrive at that number?
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>>155371285
Yes and ccp even tested it and all it does is give you resist if you received a flavor of damage, not a proportion of damage.

It's shit and it needs to be changed to actually work
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>>155371208
No you are wrong it doesn't measure the amount in coming it's based on the kind of damage not the amount.

If you get hit by a thorax with neutron blasters and it uses valkyrie drones you'll get a split of 20/20/20 even if the blasters are doing some 500dps and the drones are only doing 150
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>>155371436
https://github.com/pyfa-org/Pyfa/issues/680#issuecomment-235852289
By not talking out of my ass
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>>155371536
RAH LOG> *** Start of Cycle *** RAH LOG> Applying Resists 0.0/0.0/0.3/0.3 (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp) RAH LOG> *** End of Cycle *** RAH LOG> Removing Resists RAH LOG> Incoming Armor Damage this Cycle 0/0/948/1422 (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp) RAH LOG> Attributes to Increase Kin/Exp RAH LOG> Attributes to Decrease EM/Therm/

So at the very end he gets a 30/30 split between damage on guns that are delivering uneven damage

It's not adapting to the amount of damage at all
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>>155371536
You are shit at reading comprehension anon. That proves the opposite of what you claimed.
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>>155371536
>different amounts of kin/exp applied every shot
>every time the resist profile stays at 30/30
Boy you sure showed me
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>>155371536
M8 this link shows that if you get hit by 400 em damage, 1 thermal, 1 kinetic, and 1explosive, you will get a 15/15/15/15 split for resists on the RAH
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>>155372268
If reading logs is too hard for you, there is a tl;dr at the end.
>>
>/dog/ starts a 100 post discussion about shit that had already been discussed and tested 5 years ago
Meanwhile anon is running L4s on a armor mach with AB and nobody is troubled by this.
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>The RAH is working as intended.
>CCP Larrikin

So they're intended to be shit?

Thanks CCP.
>>
>not typhoon
>not raven
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>using pure missile boats for PvE with no application or tp bonuses.
>>
>being retarded
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>>155372626
>nobody is troubled by this
People have already pointed out these issues you doublenigger.
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>>155372913
>Pointed the issues
>Anon just add more armor resist rigs
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when are they giving the apoc a fitting buff and bringing back its cap bonus
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>>155372963
People have pointed out to swap ab for mwd and that shield would probably be better.

But whatever m8, keep whining about irrelevant shit
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>>155373071
Ok let's talk about the RAH some more.
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>>155372828

Rapid light drake is comfy as fuck.
>>
>polarized rapid light armor hardener
>>
>>155373215
>Reload time
>Comfy
>>
>>155373247
>No point defense module that shoots down rapid missiles with lasers
>>
>>155373376
Defender missiles.

Another module CCP completely forgot about.
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>>155373302

>reload
>alt tab to /eog/ and troll away
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>>155373702
They need to be more reliable and also fit on a different module that is not a hardpoint.
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>>155373702
>>155373941

Defender drone would make much more sense.
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>>155373919
Your shitposting time is still time in-game wasted.
Will you faggots every understand missions are all about being fast and having a good completion rate?

Just because you can drag a rattlesnake and afk a mission doesn't mean your doing good ISK.
>>
>>155374034

ISK/effort is more important than ISK/h. Fuck off.
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>>155374118
Then go afk rat with a VNI.
Your isk/effort is shit in missions even if your doing retarded afkable shit.
You're basically wasting your time doing the worse thing of both worlds.
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>>155374335

Again, fuck off. I can do highsec missions while fapping, and if I doze off nothing terrible will happen to my ship. Ratting you have to pay attention or a dread spawn will pop you.
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>>155374428
You really strike me as a really broke faggot that can't even afford shit
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>>155374034
He never claimed he was doing good isk so nice strawman there faggot.

Sometimes you just want to afk or semi afk and still make isk.
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>>155374626
Where do you think you are?
This place is more casual and normie than reddit.
I learned that when I raided with a /wowg/ guild.
/v/ and /vg/, never take any advise.
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>>155374736
>Make ISK
>Afk in missions
I guess you will be able to afford an saar after an hour
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>>155374626

I don't afk-lv4 for profit or shit. I do it to fund my content generation service for the highsec miners. All those catalysts don't pay for themselves you know.
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>>155372364
See
>>155371760
You stupid shit
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>pve
>>
I'm literally running a lv4 with a couple of alpha clone vexors, with minimal effort.

You gelatinous?
>>
>>155378945
are you from the future
>>
>>155379118

No, I'm just using buddy trial accounts.
>>
>>155378945
You better have 8 of those bad boys doing sick 180 dps and having to manually warp then around.
>>
>implying my fleet of alpha ventures won't make me rich
>>
>>155380887
you'd better not fuck with gas prices faggot
>>
>>155380962
>implying alphas can mine gas
No anon, I'm getting rich off veldspar
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>>155381068

Chribba, is that you?
>>
>Lowest PCU since 2008
>>
>>155382790
Quit while you can. Leave your stuff with me, just in case.
>>
>>155382790
More sites for me :^)
>>
Can you no longer put up buy orders from a tax free citadel with a 1 jump range? It's not giving me the option anymore from any of the fortizars in Perimeter.
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>>155382790
At least it's back up some.
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>>155383171
Actually it's not giving me the option to put up any remote buy orders with a range, even from npc stations.

The fuck is going on
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>mfw having to fly an unskinned ship
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>mfw triggering faggots in my unskinned ships
>>
>he doesn't own every skin
>>
>50% off Valimor Legacy skins
>look em up
>makes gallente ships slightly darker
>these skins sold so fucking poorly they're trying an artificial scarcity gimmick by pulling them from the store.
el oh el
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>>155385041
they look ok on some ships
I like it on the sin
>sin
>>
>get them before we run out of these digital goods
>>
>>155385136
A lot of skins look "ok" on some ships.

Problem is even for a stupid frigate it's easily a few hundred million isk.

>inb4 wat r u poor
>>
>>155385296
I bought the tash murkon punisher for only like 150M
>>
>>155385296
>problem
how is this a problem?
they are a optional visual options.

That's the opposite of a problem.
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>>155385548
>>
>>155385746
so don't buy it.
not a problem
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>>155385864
>fresh subs
>figure out they have to buy sp
>figure out they have to buy customization
Inb4 don't buy them / they aren't required
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>4k aur for a skin is ok
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>>155385974
so they quit, who cares
they've done that for 13 years
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>>155385986
buy it with isk, real cheap

real money = plex = aur = isk
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>>155385548
I guess problem isn't the right word. Nobody really looks at your ship anyways.

But wouldn't it be better for CCP to price these skins appropriately (i.e. not 20 bucks for a fucking frigate) so more people buy them and in the end they get more revenue?
>>
>>155386321
Then they would be worthless like all the purity ones are now.
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>>155386176
Mate that's still 2 plex for a frigate skin, meaning 30 bucks. For a skin no one will ever notice.

At least in other games you can be a giant neon faggot or something for that kind of money.
>>
>guys pls notice my skin
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>>155386513
Buy it when it's in offer, they're usually 1.5k tops then. And 2 plex is 7k aur, not 4. No wonder you're poor
>>
>>155386321
yes, but ccp

Also not sure but I have a theory all the shitty easy to get skins that existed before the whole skin thing, when you had to build the ship with the skin in it seem to be the most AUR expensive ones now.

Maybe because people who had them before got them for free once they converted to SKINS and there are so many of them (and are really cheap on the market) so they're trying to make them faucet them so they can extract more shekels from dumb kids with lots of real money?
idk

>>155386513
most ships have a real cheap isk skin
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>>155386691
>calling someone poor on an anonymousse image board
Okay faggot.

I have plenty of isk to burn, but that doesn't mean I'm going to throw that much down the toilet for a garbage skin for one ship hull.
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>>155386321
CCP are retarded the sooner you understand this the less ideaguy posts you'll make.
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>>155386040
Would be glad you're not a dev
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>>155387085
>try to get new players to play my game by fucking with older players and sacrificing tons of mechanics
>new subs % stay the same because very niche game


yeah nah I would just concentrate on improving the game for my already loyal userbase
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>>155387385
The already loyal userbase is dying because they're growing up m8. Getting married, kids, killing themselves or otherwise dying.

That's been a problem for years now. The new player experience is also still horrendous. And they're going free to play in 2 months without actually improving it.

Which is fucking retarded on so many levels. F2P is their last chance at blowing new life into this game and they're going into it completely unprepared.
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>>155386495
Them not having impermanent versions is what's unhelpful for the game.

A feature like SKINs should be fully developed, and they already have the tools but choose to nickel and dime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cu1sg5pD5w
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>you will never fly a Hello Kitty themed polarized machariel
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>>155388039
>Sanrio will never buyout CCP
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>implying any company would taint themselves with ccp
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>>155387668
Not true. The 2012-13 spike was a lot of new players.
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>>155387668
The NPE is fine except they realize they can't fly anything.
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>dror
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>>155389445
You mean the spike that almost completely drops back to normal after a couple of months?

Yeah that sure looks like a lot of new players kept on playing.
>>
>>155389764
>couple of months
lmao why can't EVE players read graphs?
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>>155389980
It's something like 4, maybe 5 months judging from the image that got posted.
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>that one faggot with default clothes
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>she doesn't have nightstalker goggles
>>
Literally meme gear
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this is why everyone hates amarr
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>>155391398
Check your standings tab you minmanigger.

You probably have like 4.95 effective standings.
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>>155391398
relog
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>tfw FC praises your fit
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>>155392827
I'll take "things that never happen" for 500, Alex.
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>he flies unpraiseworthy shitfits
>>
>he flies with FC's that don't have better things to do than look at individual fits
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>>155392827
Post your fit so we can tear it to shreds, faggot.
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>>155393672
your fits are shitty too
>>
>>155395957
No m8, I'm an elite solo pvp'er. I know my shit.
>>
>you
>elite
>>
>implying you have even the faintest idea of who I am
>>
>me
>not elite
>>
>anyone on /dog/
>elite
>>
>eliteposting on /dog/
baka desu senpai
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>page 10
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>>155401654

>40% green text sperging at each other
>no one wants to post because sperg
>wondering why page 10
>punisher
>>
impure
>>
>edition
>>
>that one guy who doesn't like zkill guides
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>>155403183
>>
rate my elite worm fit
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>worm
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>mac
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>>155362604
>13 years
pfhtahha, EvE died at least a decade ago.
>>
>>155404503
Its ok, but you'll get beat trying to brawl other brawlers like the incursus

just do a kitey fit like every other worm fit. Or do a dual ASB, pop a blue-pill before you go into battle
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>>155390321
It's 18 months.
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>>155404503
>cap booster 100's
use 400's

I know your cap capacitance is only 475gj but once you get below 2-3% just pop the cap booster

also try this fit. I put a blue-pill in it, you should out DPS and out tank an incursus.

Obviously you only run one ASB at a time, if you have a CPU implant you can run a T2 AB or T2 scram
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>guys it can kill an incursus
>>
>>155407549
an incursus is probably the most tanky T1 frig if its one of those dual rep incursus
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>Type-D Restrained Nanofiber Structure
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>>155408224
95% the bonus of the T2 without double the structure penalty.
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>>155408283
its also 1/20th the price
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>>155407274
when I kite I try to get the LML's to fit but you can double the tank if you drop the LML's by adding a second MSE
>>
>flies a worm
>omg t2 so expensive!!1!
>>
>>155410036
Theres no real reason to use the T2, the slightly higher agility bonus doesn't affect in any significant way at all. Unless you somehow had an align time of exactly 3.01 or something stupidly small would that extra 0.5% agility matter

Also its half the structure penalty, 10% on the restrained vs 20% on the T2. Especially on larger ships 10% your structure is a big deal
>>
>10% stops being 10% if applied to a larger number
>>
>>155411076
10% structure hitpoints on a battleship with 10k hull points is 1000 raw HP which translates to 2500 EHP with a 60% resistance in the hull

its a pretty significant factor
>>
>2500 ehp on a battleship is significant
>>
>giving a fuck about hull hp
>>
>EHP doesn't count when I say so.

>just use the T2, even though its extra bonus over the type-D is insignificant and theres no reason to use it, also please pay double the hull hit point cost
>>
>speed doesn't count when I say so
>>
>>155411483
its actually like 5300 EHP
>>
>>155412032
its 1%, its not a lot at all even if you had an interceptor

1% of some 5k/s interceptor is only 50m/s
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>hull hp
>>
>voting for Hillary
>>
Did they say when EvE is going F2P?

Dont think I want to resub if its soon.
>>
>>155412264
the inertia modifier on interceptors is a bigger number than on battleships, so they must surely benefit more :^)
>>
>>155412448
k
>>
>polfag can't even navigate boards
>>
>paying to play f2p shite
wew lad
>>
>>155412448
The inertia difference on a Malediction between the Type-D and T2 is 0.06 seconds which is otherwise insignificant in every metric
>>
>>155413009
I'm trying to pretend to be retarded here to show the actual retard how dumb he is
>>
>>155413192
Just saying the notion that you should use T2 nanofibers for like 1% better agility and speed is fucking shit when you lose 10% more structure HP that could be the difference between one extra volley you get to live
>>
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based broski north gassing the reddit kikes
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>torp rattle
>>
>>155416156
>T2 torps
>rattle
fucking stupid
>>
>torps on anything that isn't a bomber or phoon
>>
>>155417453
Even with the phoon's bonus, torpedos are still shit.

Some simple math revealed that Torpedo launchers have such shit application that a webbed and TP'd Battleship takes only like 65% of the paper damage
>>
>>155417776
train your skills up m8
>>
>>155419050
that is with max skills
>>
>>155420335
typhoon applies full damage to a typhoon with just a painter
>>
>>155420526
the second line was referring without the bonus of a typhoon
>>
>>155420652
it's still wrong. a typhoon takes full damage from torps when webbed and painted, and 98% with just the web
>>
>>155420813
This is why you always align out.
Just in such an occasion when there is a battleship shooting torps at you, even if you are bellicose painted and vindicator webbed, you are still moving a little and not taking full torp damage.
>>
>played for 3 years
>quit three years ago
>just found out about f2p

So will there be bikinis and school girl outfits? Did they get around to in station walking simulator?

It looks like you can have a decent amount of fun with an alpha clone, and help in a nullsec war with enough numbers and coordination.
>>
>>155425772
>fun
>>
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>and help in a nullsec war with enough numbers and coordination
>>
where the alphas at
>>
Gecko on curse/pilgrim.

Y/N?
>>
>>155429207
Yes Gecko/No Poors
>>
>>155429207
it will take it too long to fly all the way to the target that is 51km away
>>
>>155429207
Just do the Ogres/hammer/hob max dps combo if its a brawl fit

Caldari wasps otherwise
>>
>>155430047
max dps combo needs to be all augmented of course
no poors
>>
>>155430047
>>155430173
>>155429207
oh nvm those ships are shitty 50 m3 drone bay, and not amazing stratios master race drone bay
just do aug mediums, never do heavies if you can't at least field 2 geckos or 4 heavies, except for the snek of course
>>
Is there anything safer than an frigate that aligns in under 2 seconds for transporting low weight items like blueprints across highsec? The only vulnerability it has that I see is bubbles/smartbombs, which aren't an issue in highsec, or landing off station and having to slowboat, which can be mitigated with dock bookmarks.
>>
>>155430826
>aren't an issue in highsec
tell that to the russian autist that suicide maller smartbombs

safest is always blockade runner with dock bookmarks
also has cloak, aligns as fast as a frigate and warps like a ceptor
>>
>>155431160
And attracts nados, lmao.
>>
>>155431160
>tell that to the russian autist that suicide maller smartbombs
Well I'm able to get about 5k EHP on the instawarping t1 frigate I'm using now. That'd be enough to survive them, right? As for blockade runners it'd take me about 20 days to train for one and I'm not sure I see the benefit in it for highsec. Since I'm instawarping the only time the cloak would matter is landing on a station, and wouldn't getting within 2,000 meters of the station decloak you?
>>
x if you miss cruise missiles on bombers
>>
>>155431192
I'm very sure I typed in my post "dock bookmarks"
please don't ever quote me with your nigger tier unrelated posts
>>
>he thinks he is safe with his meme bookmarks
>>
>>155433232
but you are
the after warp immunity is always there
I used to move 20billion cargo BRs every week for several months of L5 stuff
>>
>he didn't realize he is getting memed
>>
xD merely pretending
>>
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>not flying the most versatile frig in game in her travel setup
>>
>punisher with a cloak
has science gone too far?
>>
Whats wrong with it? It's not covops.
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bump
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>not proteus
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>>155440830
why?
don't they have the same scan bonuses?
>>
I'm sure your epic 500ehp frig is a perfect vessel for hundreds of millions isk pod and memeprobes.
>>
>>155441162
impossible to lose it tho.
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>impossible to lose
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>>155441312
fine then give me a proteus fit
my scanner alts just so happens to also fly perfect proteus
>>
>>155441379
>>155441312
well?
>>
>plz spoonfeed I'm a retard
>>
>I can't back up my own shittalk
nice stay classy /dog/
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>>155434072

triggered
>>
>posts le I'm so rich xD screencap
>not even eft so we can see the fit
Is it a supercap hunter, risk averse scanner or what?
>>
>he is so poor that gets triggered when someone posts a picture of a relatively cheap implant set with no intention to claim financial superiority or anything

>risk averse scanner
>>
>rss probes
>anything but a claim of financial superiority
>>
>130mil for a set of probes you are never gonna lose is a bad investment when you are scanning all day and only rich people can afford it
>>
>never
>goona
>lose
>>
I've yet to lose a scanning ship in the 3 years this pilot has been scanning.
Burn to gate with hole with cloak is 100% safe escape maneuver.
>>
stnh edition
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>>155442260
Desu if you ignore the nomads and faction memes, it is the most cost effective travel frig. If you fly somewhere to get another ship, you can reprocess this one and take it back with you as minerals. And gankers target mostly ceptors, bombers, shuttles and noobships.

Nobody expects the amarr incquisition.
>>
>ham legion
>>
>>155430826
A tanked T3 with covops subsystem is still better, assuming you don't have any highsec wars.

If you have wars then a <1 second align hecate is the best.
>>
>>155442763
>burn to gate with cloak
>100% safe
There is always that very small chance you will appear next to an object/ship so you will be unable to cloak.
>>
Are decloaking cans on gates an exploit?
>>
>>155448824
GM's have been inconsistent in their decisions on that.

Generally, it's allowed unless there are so many cans that it's starting to lag.
>>
>>155448824
You might get asked to remove them if there are more than 50 and you get reported, otherwise you're probably fine.
>>
>>155450237
>might get asked to remove them
lel wat

A gm will just clear the entire grid in one command and call it a day.
>>
>>155450286

More like disconnect the whole system and reboot the node.
>>
>>155450795
Still just one command :^)

Pretty sure they don't need to reboot the node these days though.
>>
Kevin
>>
>>155452263
reported

Move along, if you're pure.
>>155452384
white
>>155452384
power
>>155452384
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