/domg/ - Dominions General

I posted this as shitty bait last thread, but why would you transform your pretender? What situations make that useful?

>tfw took me until turn 20 to realize I could simply send an assassin to cap waterplane provinces instead of fighting 3 wyrms

Man I feel dumb.

>>155059943
If you have an immobile, he might be more useful if he can move.

>>155059943
Because this shitty game doesn't have a spell to make my Tree grow legs to go over there and whack you.

Okay Atlantis you better move your troops because 124 is in my cap circle.

>>155060036
I'm an idiot

It actually did not occur to me that you could use it to make immobiles move

>>155060139
I said REMOVE ATLANTIS. I warned you about stairs, bro. UWBOWL HYPE!

>>155060116
Just buy Item Pack 2 DLC. Copper Legs are very useful.

>>155060520
>second pair of boots can be equipped
Not their best idea.

>>155060450
I hope hes not a retard and realizes that ghost removal is a worthy cause and hes making more enemies and his only "ally" will be a nerd with 12 ghosts and his cap province 12 turns in

>>155060187
Keep in mind your Immobile has to not be lifeless. Lifeless can not transform

If ASSDOD stales again he's going AI.

>>155060859
I head you were talking shit, like I wouldn't find out.

>>155046647
I'm not even sure why people associate the blood plane with blood nations. 95% of blood sites that spawn in there are Arenas and the provinces have such high population that they're incredibly inefficient to bloodhunt.

>>155060663
I still want to be able to give my mounted mages boots.

>>155063175
>and the provinces have such high population that they're incredibly inefficient to bloodhunt.

Just jumping in here to ask, isn't high population GREAT for bloodhunting?

>>155063267
You don't get any extra blood slaves over 7000 pop and you lose a proportional amount of gold based on the unrest you cause, even if you patrol it down that turn. A blood slave costs more gold at 20,000 than it does at 7000.

Do any items grant awe? I tried checking the inspector but I couldn't find a way to search for effects

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>>155065486
You can find most of the tags by looking in the mod manual or just looking up examples.

Which pretender wud u main in a fighting game?

>>155067032
Monolith.

>>155067032
Monolith, desu. Or blood fountain.

>>155067032
Lord of the Forest with S1

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>>155067032
Whoever plays like Suwako in Hisoutensoku or Arakune from Blazblue
Who would be the Dan Hibiki of Dominions?

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>>155067514
>suwako in soku
name yourself, also wouldn't golden antler hero of marverni be like that?

>>155068092
The knees are the weakpoint obviously

>>155067032
Forester, obviously.

>>155067032
Annunaki of Love and War, maybe. One of the slut waifu characters.

>>155067514
>Who would be the Dan Hibiki of Dominions?

LA Pythium.

>>155067738
Amuys

I extended this turn 24 hours for whoever needed it.

Can I have 2 more hours in Kingofbullies?
Time schedule and so and so. Dont to stale if i oversleep.

Does shademail haubergon add stealth or only improve it

>>155070030
It's the only item besides amulet of the doppelganger that adds stealth to a non-stealthy unit.

>>155069658
Done

>>155067514
>Hisoutensoku
>not maining Patchouli
dumb frogposter

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>>155073180
>not maining yuyu
if your gonna tier whore, just tier whore right

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>>155073180
>>155073240
Arco and Lemuria a shit
Yomi's where it's at

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>>155073495
>maining as ulm

Don't Die.

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>>155075709

>>155075772
Where's the DG R'lyeh edit?

>>155077172
I would play on this image

Post your dominions waifu.

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>>155082394

What's the requirements to use a unit as an assassin? Just stealth?

>>155082509
I didn't know /domg/ was irish.

Anon casts Ritual of Rebirth.

>>155083112
An assassin needs both stealth and the assassin trait.

You can also use seduction as a ghetto assassination, because a failed seduction attempt sometimes results in an assassination attempt.

Ded thred.

Game: MAdden_2016_Hexxy_Edition
>Vanheim Waiting for 2h file

Game: TheBiggestFattestMeme
>Atlantis Waiting for 2h file
>Pelagia Waiting for 2h file

>>155087565
Fine, fuck diplo right? Atlantis are just dumm frogs and need to be gassed anyways

Is Asspoodle actually an amazing disciple? Without their popkill Dom don't they become Pan but with death magic?

>>155089794
Don't forget the reanimating unique summons

>>155089794
Pan with 15k pop in their cap instead of 30k, Pan without 3000 crazy sluts, Pan without blood, and Pan without EQ spammers. So yea its totally the same as pan, if by pan you mean centaurs that are good with a W bless

>>155089794

Yes, but you still want them to have at least W9 for those black centaurs. Magic scales would be fantastic on them as well, owing to their lack of good lab rats.

>>155089794
They lack the best unit, the Reveler (which reduces the value of nature buffs). Nature isn't a good crosspath for death and Panic Apostates are very price-y for D2s (compare Panic Apostates to a mage like Marshmaster, they're strictly inferior their durability aside). I think Earth is a generally more desirable path than Death (especially if you have troops that synergize well with buffs) and Pangaea also has a degree of blood access for endgame. Asphodel doesn't have seducer-assassins

Asphodel disciple is fine, arguably better than Asphodel with popkill and freespawn (since you can still reanimate lots of freespawn carrion with priests), but I'd say it's a good bit weaker than MA Pangaea (unless you want death access for your team or something).

>>155090198

Don't forget they also miss out on Dryad Seducers/ass-ass-ins and (for whatever its worth) the "song-spells"

They do gain skelespammers, holy 3 priest summons and reanimators with national divine undead buffs.

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>>155059765

My island bats, like hell I'm gonna give a blood nation a 10K pop island

Dedest.

To keep the thread alive, a question regarding LA Ulm. How many of their S2s in communion do you need for a master enslave communion?

>>155095127

Just let it die, this game is shit anyways.

>>155095127
With an S2 Master:
64 Slaves with no booster
32 Slaves with one booster (Skullcap)
16 Slaves with two boosters (Coin)
8 Slaves with two boosters + Light of the Northern Star
4 Slaves with two boosters + Light of the Northern Star/Banner of the Northen Star + Power of the Spheres/Crystal Shield
2 Slaves with three boosters (Cap, Coin, Ring) + Light of the Northern Star/Banner of the Northern Star + Power of the Spheres/Crystal Shield
Out of the box with with four boosters (Cap, Coin, Ring, artifact) + Light of the Northern Star/Banner of the Northen Star + Power of the Spheres/Crystal Shield

Shilling this
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MythologicalMiscegnation

Imagine that extra magic levels reduce the number of gems required to cast spells, rather than reducing fatigue.

A spell which costs no gems to cast has the usual fatigue reduction.

What spells are really good now?

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>>155099026

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To keep the thread alive here's some creativity exercises.

How would you make a game based on the Dominions universe for the following genres:
-Horror
-First Person game
-Action Third Person game
-MMO

>>155099620
>horror
It's a survival game where you're a peasant trying to survive in the middle of the war, trying not to get eaten by jews and hiding from all the horrifying globals.

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>>155099620
>Horror
Caves of Xibalba. Shitty indie walking simulator game with a ton of jump scares.

>First Person.
A world where Ermor/Lemuria wins. All cancerous globals are in place, and you are the last living priest of your pretender who must carry the flame of your faith in dark times. Something like Dark Souls gameplay would suit perfectly, but in first person for more immersion.


>Action Third Person
Pretender Onslaught Ultra X, an arcade/fighting game with a shitton of available pretenders. Seruously, Blood Fountain's zoning is fucking unbearable, and Kraken's normals should deal 20% at most. Illfraaaaaaaauud!

>MMO
Taint and Trade. Basically, Illwinter's first idea of CoE. You're a trader who travels the world buying and selling shit, encountering monsters and other characters. Tactical battles, persistent world, PvP, PvE, and global events like Horror attacks.

Best unit to make an assassin that is not one to start with

>>155099620
>Action Third Person
It's like Dynasty Warriors but you play as Forester Bob cutting down hordes of sacreds.

>>155100315
What nation? Vanjarls worked for me.

>>155100315
Eater of the Dead.
The Black Heart still works if stealth is given to the unit by items, right?

>>155100327
I'd play the fuck out of that.

>>155099620
>-Horror
Try to survive as a regular peasant in LA Ulm while LA R'lyeh is invading them.

>-First Person game
Basically just Dark Messiah, except in the Dominions world.

>-Action Third Person game
Dork Souls, set in MA Ermor.

>-MMO
The life of Bogus. Everyone is an indie adventurer and messes with pretenders by freeing their slaves and raiding their provinces. When you level up enough the pretenders start to notice your bullshit and start sending armies, thugs and SCs after you.

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>>155100190
>A world where Ermor/Lemuria wins. All cancerous globals are in place, and you are the last living priest of your pretender who must carry the flame of your faith in dark times. Something like Dark Souls gameplay would suit perfectly, but in first person for more immersion.

Your pretender had F9N9 bless and you have recuperation, so you're among the only ones who can regenerate his wounds and old age while fighting off ethereal undead. Ending consists of your waifu/best friend using her/his lifeforce to overcast Purgatory and replace Utterdark. Sequel deals with awakening of blood magic.

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>>155100575
I'm throwing money into the screen already.

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>>155100627
>tfw Carmack will never remake Quake the way it was meant to be

>>155100575
>Ending consists of your waifu/best friend using her/his lifeforce to overcast Purgatory and replace Utterdark

>"Why is there so many fire gems here?"
>"Legends say that this vault belonged to an ancient god named Okofire. He didn't know how to craft lightless lanterns and died in the second year of the Ascension Wars."

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>>155099620
>horror
You are a researcher in a magical lab. Your mission is to forge a magic item for your god. You have to find all the ingredients first. The only help you get magical lamp and friendly imp companion.

>First person
Call of Duty: Forester Warfare - You are a lone Forester caught behind enemy lines in the middle of an ascension war. QTE ambidextrous dagger executions.

>Third person action
Blood Hunt simulator. Chase around peasant girls a geriatric old wizard.

>>155101074
What's the size of your Pepe folder?

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MythologicalMiscegnation

MythologicalMiscegnation, a small-ish LA game, is still recruiting. 4 out of 6 slots have been filled.

Also I just realized I forgot to draw Abysiaball's tears. Or steam puffs, since tears would just evaporate instantly. Oh well, it still works.

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You have 5 seconds to name a single reason why you're not playing sneks in spess right now.

>>155104428
snek a shit

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>>155104512
Say it to my fleet and not online, and see what happens, fgt.

>>155104428
What game?

>>155104428
Because the game is unfinished and unpolished, has a crappy UI, and doesn't do anything especially good or even interesting to make up for it.

Maybe if it get finished properly it'll be worth playing.

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>>155104808
Stars in Shadow.

>>155104815
It's still better than Stellaris.

>>155104993
I dunno about that. Stellaris at least had a few interesting ideas, even if the game itself ended up being boring as shit.

SiS doesn't really have any ideas of its own. It's just copying parts better games and doesn't even have the decency to do it well. It might still end up a good game eventually, but right now it doesn't have anything to make up for the fact that it's extremely bland and awkward.

>>155103262
We're full.

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>>155105842
Alright, time to play badminton.

>>155108159
>The Free Market
Fuck off, Cirno.

Do gate cleaver effects stack on commanders with 4 arms?

>>155093021
You can keep it :3

Still looking for a Sub for Ermor in Antiquis Terra, and Sauro in Dur_Gotter.

Cancerous globals when? It's turn 37 already, R'lyeh and Lemuria what the fuck are you doing?

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>>155108237
>Cirno
>No Sauro
Stop spewing bullshit around.

What's a good armor to put on my SC's? All of them seem lackluster

>>155109660
At least provide some context, otherwise the answer will be 'It depends'.

ATTN Admins
Still without Internet so I request either an extension or a sub in the following games

AllMAGamesAreMemeGames Ulm
When_You_Stale_IRL Ulm
MADden Vanheim
WeWuz Pelagia

Extension of about 30 minutes please?

>>155109793
When_You_Stale is fucked anyway.

>Atlantis isn't doing anything
>C'tis isn't doing anything
>Lemuria is half dead
>Pangaea is half dead
>Xibalba has exactly one province left
>Ulm has demons and vampires all over the place
>everyone else went AI, including Mari who was the #2 player in the game before he quit

You might as well claim victory now and have it over with.

>>155110183
Oh and it looks like AI Mari is now invading Atlantis with his demonstacks, just to make things even easier for you.

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>>155075980
Here is another Doom edit.

>>155109660
Armor of Knights for protection, Rainbow Armor for reinvig and MR, Hydra Skin for regen.

There's a bunch which increase resistances too, which are often very handy for filling out a resistance missing on your other gear.

>>155110183
>not removing Ulm year1
That's your own fault.

>>155111038
I was too buzy removing spoops.

>>155111124
How can you even try to fight Lemuria in the early game? You have no spells, massing priests is not an option and the weapons of the troops just go straight through the spooks.

>>155111257

Eh. Enchantment 4 is enough to render their troops incapable of dealing damage to yours, which is sufficient for you to hold the line indefinitely.

Thaum 1 for Communion, Evo 2 for Solar Rays, and you can kill ghost armies with minimal losses.

Are sitesearch spells worth it? You are effectivley paying gems to find gems.

The only times I tend to use them is for off-paths that I want to break into at midgame, where I've had a small income to gather a large pool of gems. I'll have combed the land with main paths during early game at that point.

Dammit, I really wanted a turn to play this morning.

>>155111814
They can be useful, I'll cast them on thrones were I haven't found any sites yet and they generally have a decent success rate

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dead thread post battle screens

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>>155114890

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God bless Flatus batman.

Best way to fight UW water elementals?

>>155118160
More water elementals.

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Atlantis r u okay? im a bit worried... It died to indies

>>155115619
NEVER FORGET

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GrandestMemery

Get in, fags.

Is it worth a mageround to cast aim, when you are setting up for Tstrike spam(storm power having been cast the first round)?

I figured as long as the enemy isn't just a very small group of sacreds or thugs, aim isn't really necessary

>>155111814

It's somewhat variable by path. You're effectively trading gems for faster site finding and less mage turns consumed.

A D1 Revenant casting Dark Knowledge will find 100% of D sites in one province per turn.

A D4F1 Sauromancer sitesearching will find 100% of D sites in one province per two turns. (He'll also find about 60% of Fire sites)

There's also variation based on site settings. In Magika, which has site-frequency maxed, it is ABSOLUTELY worth sitesearch ritual spamming, because there are a lot of sites and a site which you have not found yet is one which is not giving you gems. In a standard setting LA game, they're less worthwhile.

where's the all nations 1 age mod?

>>155119942

So EA has more sites than LA?

Is it the map that sets frequency? Or the host? Because I'm not seeing any such info on games pending on llamaserver.

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>>155119942
>In a standard setting LA game, they're less worthwhile.
However, it's worth noting there are exceptions for this. Some provinces have more sites (thrones have a higher likelihood and a map can have provinces that are more likely to have sites or even guaranteed site of a certain type, you can check those in map editor). In addition, some sites can be betrayed by their effects on scales or unrest (when no dominion has touched the province yet, or by finding out a province has G0 in G3 dominion despite having been in your possession for a long time). For example, if an untouched province has order scales, you can tell it has The Cornerstone or The Statue of the Sitting God sites (as those level 0 sites are revealed by default and The Statues of the Overlords is ruled out because it would also increase productivity).

If you have a reason to believe there's a site in the province, it's well worth investing in site search spells.

>>155119725
No.

If you want to buff your mages, use Wind Guide instead so you can have one guy buffing everyone at once. It's the same buff as Aim anyway.

>>155120563
It's shown in "Game Settings and Admin Options" if site frequency has been changed from default. Example: http://www.llamaserver.net/pretAdmin.cgi?game=GrandestMemery

By default, EA has more sites than MA which has more sites than LA.

>>155120563

Default settings are EA 45, MA 40, LA 35.

This can be overridden by the host in the game settings. Mostly it's just left as is.

>>155120958

75, does that mean 75% higher frequency, or some other arbitrary number?

>>155121026
To my understanding (I'm not 100% on that) it means 75% of provinces have at least one site. Remember that provinces can have more sites than one, however, so in actuality 75 site frequency means an average province has more than one site.

>>155121026

I'm not sure anyone's ever worked out how exactly site frequency works, beyond "Bigger is more".

Does flaming arrows only work on arrows and not on javelins or stones?

>>155121563
It works on all non-magical projectiles.

>>155121563

It works on all nonmagical projectiles.

>>155121563
You'd be surprised what kind of tricks you can pull off with the monkey nations. It works even on the markatas' "sticks and stones".

>>155122684
Don't forget to cast strength of giants to boost their range and damage, too.

>>155123557
Don't forget to cast "Army of Giants" to expand the dong.

Under what circumstances would I want to recruit Airya Temple Guards? They seem very niche.

>>155124136
Literally never

>>155110183
>C'tis isn't doing anything

He just got multiple tartarian factories online, so far as I can see.

>>155124136
Protecting a key mage researching/casting rituals in your capital from assassins? Maybe if you're down to your capital with a lot of mages but no blockers, and you only have gold for a couple of troops but resources for plenty? Maybe for your first expansion party with your prophet if you for whatever amazing reason unrelated to sacreds have decided to take high paths on your pretender?

I don't know, just maybe you could come up with a plausible reason but in any event they'd be so niche it doesn't matter, realistically they're never worth it.

So why are the chances of getting able caster for weird fire as Gath so abysmal? Either cap only str or high end summon if you don't luck out on indies.

Is Magma Bolts or Iron Darts better for MA Ulm before Evo 6?

Does Wraith Crown allow a commander to summon longdeads/soulless/etc? I've seen some commanders I've given Crowns to able to do it while others couldn't

>>155124136

None. You will never have enough resources to recruit them in EA, and you will never have a bless that works with them. MAYBE if you for some reason went with a E9 pretender, although you would never do that because you're going to have an awake expander as Caelum or die horribly.

Your infantry is trash, but that's not what your nation is about. If you want heavy infantry find an indie province with them that has decent resources, build a fort and pop them out. They serve as good roadblocks, if you can ever get them to end up where your flying armies will go.

>>155127071
Iron Darts usually

Playing a random nation 1v1 with a friend. Got Berytos.

So, how do I Berytos properly? The sacred seem overpriced and a bit lackluster. Awake pretender seems the way to go. Sailing seems to encourage coastal forts that can reach each other. Plus the income bonus is nice. Blood summoms are good, but their evo game could also be a thing with the stormcallers.

>>155128258
Ok, thank you.

>>155127071
It obviously depends on what you are fighting but iron darts is my go-to spell for smiths earlygame.

>>155128396
Get bless, get wasteland spam seirs, buff seirs with fog warriors gg.

>>155127409
>you're going to have an awake expander as Caelum or die horribly
What? Ever since they got charge bonus for lances ages ago, Caelum has been one of the premier nations in expansion. Now, because people don't want to face their Thunder Strike battery power spike, someone might conceivably try to rush them immediately (during the first year) but I haven't seen such a thing happen and for a good reason: it's a suicide (even if Caelum can't win in a pitched battle, they'll just swallow your entire territory and should you manage to defend your own capital and keep Caelum sieged, you'll be so far set back you've effectively lost the game).

>>155129053
And if are going with high bless awake expander tank prod, temperature and luck scales, get growth/order, learn to expand with elephants. The elephants are fucking murder against anything size 2 if you do things right.

How to play Hinnom???

>>155130930
Get scales, expand with chariots, blast people with ammis, season with baa'li SC's and thugs to taste.

>>155129230

That just turned them from "absolute trash" to useful for the first turn. They are still size 3 with 10hp.

>>155128396
>playing Dominions with a friend

Sounds like a sure-way method of losing a friend desu.

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What even IS MA Machakas endgame? The only remotely useful mage is a cap-only StR.

>>155132505
Their endgame is not to reach the endgame.

>>155132505
They're pretty much like MA Ulm but worse. They can spam Banefire en masse if you get enough boosters, so there's that. Just play Ulm tbqh famalam.

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>>155135423
SLEEP TIGHT STUPID DOG

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>>155135423
WAKE UP THERE'S A SKELETON INSIDE OF YOU

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>>155135595
Great, now that you woke her up she's gonna be making noise all night.

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TOUHOU MOD
FINISHED
WHEEEEEEEEEEEN?

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Crow Tengu > Dog Tengu

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>>155135783
It's either that or let the communist skeleton inside her steal her bodily fluids.

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How do you Lemuria?

also, what is the source for pic related?

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>>155136873
>how do you lemuria
awake pretender with minimal of D3 so you can summon lemurs, expand with ghosts, turtle hard, unlock Enchant 5, turtle harder

>>155136873
You don't.

OniAi

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>>155136873
You wait until all other players stop playing and win.

>>155132505
LEMURIAAAAA

First time Niefelheim, first throne I find is +5 fire resist. I have a good feeling about this.

Is it possible to win as LA R'lyeh?

>>155142046
Possible, yes.

Likely, no.

Who borders Ragha? Are they doing anything to stop his conquest of the blood plane?

>>155142547
Bats. And that's about it I guess. This does not look good, though if they could crash the blood plane with no survivors everybody else would be pleased.

>>155142046
Nick is gonna try, but we'll stop him.

>>155142759
That's worrying. I hope bats realize they are next on the menu after the AI Bogarus and that they need to strike him now rather than later.

Is there nobody else nearby that can help?

>>155143262
I'm on the other side of the world m8, and for some godfucked reason those plentiful boat connections don't come close to the blood plane.

>>155136873
You basically just spam forts in every province, fill them with as many ghosts as you can, cast Utterdark and BoT, then wait until everyone else stops playing.

>>155142547
>>155142759
>>155143262
>>155143462

I hope everyone fully realizes what would happen should Ragha take the blood plane uncontested. Bats won't be able to do shit to him with that kinda boost, as far as my scouts can see he's nowhere near big enough. It's likely bats would fall to Ragha pretty quickly, and Ragha with bats and blood plane, well...

>>155143873
He is uncontested for now. What do you want us to do, on the other side of the world? As far as my scouting takes me, Ragha has Bats for neighbour, and AI Bogarus. Maybe R'lyeh is in somewhere near, or another player I haven't seen yet. But for now, he can take the blood plane for himself.

>>155144335
I know that, I just mean I hope anyone near him is getting ready to either attack him quickly or get raped, no lube, in the very near future.

How exactly does a commander acquire heroic ability?

>>155146016
Get enough XP to get in the Hall of Fame.

The longer he stays in the HoF, the stronger the ability gets. If he gets kicked out he still keeps the ability, but it won't get any stronger.

>>155144673
T Gath

Since I've only ever really played with AI, around what season/year would you say people mostly hit their mid and late game options? With graphs turned on, in a game I'm doing well, I usually feel like I'm way ahead of the AI in terms of research but generally behind on number of troops.

in B4 >it depends

>>155146137
How do I get kicked out? I had a demon running around with ~ +50 health from a heroic ability until I got unlucky and he finally died

>>155149383
AI recruits a lot of random shit, so it doesn't indicate anything.

Midgame usually starts when you research your endgame spells and are ready to use them in combat. For D2+ nations it's usually skelespam followed by shadowblast. For A2+ nations it's storm/storm power/thunderstrike. I'd say mid-game is anything that follows after the initial expansion phase. Considering a standard province number of 15-18 provinces per player, I'd say midgame starts around the end of year 2 - start of year 3.

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>>155149918
>endgame spells
fug, midgame spells

I'll start up a modnat (not natgen) game tomorrow. Any specific modnations that are so OP they should be banned even in an extremely not serious memegame?

>>155149383
It depends. The AI can't into magic but recruits all the troops, so your impression is accurate. But for real players, you gotta take the nation they represent into account, and their situation on the map, thus understanding that those mid or late game options can come online at various times. So it depends. But as >>155149918
says, you can expect anyone who unlocked his magical options of choice to consider himself in midgame. Endgame is about getting the big boy summons and battlefield devastating spells, or late, costly globals for example.

>>155150160
If it's really extremely not serious memegame, then allow everything. Even Doom.

>>155150160
>>155150358
I'd prefer if it was very not serious but not straight up "get rolled by panko-mode nation at turn 10" not serious.

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>>155150563
Just edit doom's icon of sin pretender out of the mod file then. It's not that OP without it.

>>155150160
All three DF nations, trust me.

>>155150954
How are protection 25 sacred summons with 10 to all resists and full access to blood OP?

>>155150358
>>155150563
>>155150673
>>155150954
I'll take a look at them tomorrow, ideally while not serious, people would still get a decent chance with their nation, not very fun to get rolled the first year by a meme modnation because you decided to pick something that looked actually interesting rather than going for the most OP shit.

Also no pure meme shit like clowns, I think we can all agree on that.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Latus_4_the_Early_Era_Meme_War

Shilling for the new thread!
Nations joined so far:
>Xibalba
>Agartha
>Sauromatia
>Ermor
>Berytos
>Niefelheim
>Ur
>Lanka
>Fomoria
>Yomi
>Therodos

Using summod and ME! Ever wanted to a chance to use those high research ME this game will be a great chance!

So, what's the story behind the original Conquest of Elysium? I tried to look it up, but the internet (even Illwinter's own site) barely even acknowledges that it existed. All I really know is that it was an Atari game.

Was there some legal conflict that lost Illwinter the rights to the game? Did they just lose it or something? I'm curious what it was like, and doubly so now that it's all but forgotten.

>>155142945
Carlix already got one.

>>155152326
Scrub games don't count <I;^)

>>155151815
FUCKING CHANGE ME1.2 YOU AUTISTIC BADMIN IT WILL CRASH THE GAME

Use 1.1, that will work fine. Otherwise yell at Llama to fix his shit.

>>155153229
fixed. Thanks for the heads up.

>>155154647
Also, I hope you realize that the old Latus map file and the new Latus map file have the same name. If someone downloads them both, he wouldn't be able to play the old and the new game at the same time.

>>155154857
I was looking for a work around on that, we might just have to play with the old one if that's the case. It should be a few days before the game fills up so maybe someone will figure it out.

>>155155819

You could just rename the fixed one, throw it up on mediafire or something, and then upload it is a new map on Llama.

>>155150160
Cult of the Void, in the event you've had the misfortune to hear of it, should be banned. Swarmhive is also quite strong, but isn't quite as hilariously broken.

>>155149840
Someone else has a commander take yours place

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I didn't know that MR could go that high nor that my mages would be stupid enough to try and bash through it.

>>155159315

Why would you go that far and then not give him any shoes?

>>155159845
Ask whoever he was fighting.

>>155159315
>unironically using Robe of Missile Protection
You know he can just cast Air Shield, right? Give him some real armor instead of it.

>>155160019
It's even worse. It's robe of invulnerability AKA one shot from fire brand.

>>155159315
Yeah, soul slay will not be a problem. A single cast of Flame Pillar will be though.

>>155160019

That's a robe of Invulnerability, I'm fairly sure.

But yeah, there are better choices.

Scales for LA Xibalba with Abysia as teammate? Can I afford to take drain 1 for a little more growth? (Dom 8 O3H3G2Mis2D1?)

>>155160662
Dom 8 is kind of a lot of dominion. Dom kill is less risky since they changed the formula, especially in a disciples game. I'd be tempted to take less of that and more of something else. What bless are you looking at?

>>155161498
Speaking of high dom in disciples games, does dom 9+ give disciples awe?

>>155161995

Nope.

But they do get the bless.

>>155160662
Both of your nations can perform blood sacrifices. You don't need high domscore. Just take enough for Aby to comfortably expand with their sacreds (I'm assuming you're running a double bless with that).

>>155162260
Correct. N9B9

>>155162260
Dom 6 O3H3G3Mis2Drain1? Has 17 points leftover but cannot fit into anything.

Do spells benefit from missile range extension you get from air bless?

How exactly does regeneration effect afflictions?
The description implies that it does but I can find nothing about it in the manual after Ctrl_f-ing regeneration.

>>155163674
20% less chance of getting an affliction or something.

>>155162773
Or is drain 1 too horrible for these nations? I'm hesitant to take sloth with Abysia.

>>155143739
But what about temples

If there is still a book icon over a province does that mean there is still event progress to be made or do they remain even after the event is complete?
Also what do I have to do in order to get units to investigate it without an investigate command? Will it progress just by leaving them in the province doing research or patrolling or do I need to issue a specific command?
I've often seen the events happen the turn I moved a relevant commander into the province so is it possible that it triggers upon entering the province?

>>155165124
Don't go crazy with them, you will have probably dom 10 against their dom6 or maybe even 5 itll be hell for them to fight against it.

Pan, are you around? Am in chat.

>>155165574
But if I double down with temples wont it push even further and harder? Or do you get diminishing returns on temple spreading power if your natural dom is already far superior?

anyone up for a blitz tonight?

>>155162773
Assist pls for I am dumb

>>155165802

Note that Lemuria only gets it's "good" freespawn in provinces with a fort AND a temple.

Lemuria does not get good freespawn. Only bad freespawn and worse freespawn

>>155165802
Push hard and get meme'd on. People will allow you to snowball and backstab each other as long as you give the appearance of being contained.

If you actively spread cancer to all your neighbors, not even /domg/'s passive and backstabby nature will save you.

shit guys i just heard that dom5 is going to be a musuou game

>>155168798
t. adele

>>155168798
its gonna be a schmup according to my sources

Your army is positioned in province X, bordering to province Y and Z, both with enemy armies in them. You attack into province Y, and the enemy attacks into province X from both Y and Z.

How will the engagements look like? Will army X and Y fight first, and if your army defeats army from Y, will it move on and avoid army from Z? Or will they fight combined? One after the other?

What happens if you add flying armies to the mix, like a flying army coming into province Y from a distance. When will they arrive?

>>155169343
It's random.

>>155151815
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Latus_4_the_Early_Era_Meme_War
Can nations even spawn in the outlying planes? If not we're probably maxed out as is.

>>155162773
Bump bump~

So is ea ryleh no longer a crippled puppy? I was thinking of playing them my next game.

>>155170184
They're still semidogshit in vanilla, though better than they were. They are pretty solid in summod.

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>>155169895
Someone in the last thread came up with this picture of the EA starts.

>>155170496
Is Therodos on that map?

>>155171548
No.

>>155170496
I can't be the only one who thinks that map is mad fugly.

>>155173259
Everyone thinks the map is hideous.

Anyone want to Sub as Ermor in Antiquis Terra, or Sauro in Dur_Gotter? Still looking.

>>155170496
I already regret picking Sauro.

This is kinda off topic but I can't be biffed making a forum account somewhere to ask.

Is it possible to just remove a magic item from a commander in Conquest of Elysium 4? My commanders keep getting an artifact called Hydra Bowl which gives them a poison aura, this is great if I just want them to go beat stuff up alone but not ideal if they're part of an army. The manual only mentions transferring them.

>>155175216
Click onto the item, then will appear the layout of your whole army, click over the unit you would like to give item to. If you have no-one you wish give the item, then just find the 'throw it away' button. There have to be that button, iirc.

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>>155174994

>>155174994
Just go AI. The AI is probably better than average domg anyhow.

>>155175216
One weird trick is to just move the magic item to a garbage militia unit and leave the militia unit in the middle of fukin nowhere.

Therodian Thred

What's a good number of thrones and required points for a multiplayer game? I'm planning to host one sometime, but I don't have a whole lot of experience with it.

I assume it varies based on the number of players, and you'd want a player to need more than half, at least. Are there any standard guidelines? Or do the exact numbers not matter all that much?

>>155179005
Agarthan Thred

I'm a tiny bit salty about not getting an extension or notification that I needed to find a sub in Ginnung from the admin, but the stuff I lost was lost anyways and the sea forts I had going just finished, so all I lost was like a few turns of income from stuff I should have taken.

To Ginnungagap's admin/Thed - if you want someone else to take over admin duties when you are officially out, you should ask. I'm sure people would be happy to do it.

>>155179618
When in doubt, ask your players what settings they'd like. They'll usually start complaining if they think your settings are dumb.

Number of thrones doesn't matter too much, but I wouldn't go above a tenth of provinces as thrones.

Generally you want a bit over half of total throne points to win, but you can use a larger percentage for a longer game and a smaller percentage for a shorter one.

Try to avoid having lots of thrones of the same level. I personally try to have at least 3x as many level 1+2 as level 3, and at least as many level 2 as level 1.

>>155168147
But even when I try not to spread cancer or cast cancerous globals people rush or gang up or gang rush me into oblivion. The only time I've had success is spreading cancer as hard as I can and casting life ruining globals as fast as I can so that my territory and much of the surrounding territory is already lifeless and they can't siege me effectively by the time they attack. That allows me to survive well into the game and take advantage of the chaos when their alliance inevitably falls apart.

>>155170496
>helheim and vanheim share caprings
wew

>>155182951
I actually like that a lot. The elves deserve each other. Also considering joining as one of the two if no one else does.

>>155179623
Pelagian Thred

>>155149840
Depending on how many people are allowed to be in hall of fame that many commanders need to have more xp than him.

>>155182951
Is there even any reason to have a Helheim at all? Pretty sure there is nothing they can do to survive a Vanhere rush.

Holy shit this first round of picks is something.

This game is going to be off the chain.

>>155184530
Has anyone actually even picked yet? The thing for CC just shows the team names, with empty nation lists.

>>155115619
>tfw you will never be this legendary

Why do Reaphim cost so much? They're objectively worse than Neifel giants and ridiculously resource intensive for little to no gain, not mention popkill and unrest.

>>155184870
Almost finished the first round of picks. Some communities definitely have a different meta from us.

I'll update the page soon.

>>155183493
Oceanian Thred.

Daily reminder that /domg/ is full of neets.

https://strawpoll.de/xrasfas

>>155163101

No.

>>155152234
Yes, Yes.

>>155164467
>drain and misfortune

>>155165378
There is still an event.
If it doesn't have an investigate command (or anything else) just leave them in the province. If you press "i" you should be able to learn the past events in a province, and can look that up on the dom4 inspector.

some events don't need you to do anything beyond having the appropriate commander in the province.

>>155169343
read the fucking manual.

>>155179618
rule of thumb is >50% of thrones to win, and no way a combination of 3 thrones lets you win.

update the wiki

>>155163101

You get the precision benefit but should not get the range benefit.

>>155187448
no u

>>155118846
never played Pythium before are they any good? I'm thinking about joining this game.

All pretenders now have their own bless applied to them permanently.

What becomes overpowered?

Hard mode, no N9

Olathe Oceania, are you around?

>>155189973
Yup, I'm here.

>>155189991
meme / no meme?
I'm in the steam chat, geddin.

>>155184870
>the thing for CC
What is this? Is there a wordpress or something?

>>155142547
>>155142759
>>155143262
>>155143462
>>155143873
Well I'd be up for helping, Ragha with the blood plane doesn't sound good to me either. However I only have one province that I could pass through so bats would have to let me have that path.

By the way, is Olathe Mictlan here as well, maybe?

>>155190656
In chat.

>>155154857
I hope you realise on the map description on llamaserver it says that all changes are serverside, you just need an identical .map file to the other Latus named LatusFixed.map

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So what's happening in NoBully and King of Bullies? It's been a while since I've seen a post

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GrandestMemery

START ALREADY

>>155189820
erf snek gets reinvigoration, solving one of his biggest issues, as well as potentially even more protection.

>>155189820
W9 Dragon

>>155192405
Rlyeh seems to be making a grab at a couple of thrones.
This game might if over rather soon.

>>155192486
Also admin shouldn't forget to shorten the turn by 24h due to Llamaserver bullshit making the first turn, the shortest, 48h by default.

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I'm still surprised that my flawless diplomacy failed to convince the Kangz to let me occupy part of their capring.

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>>155193184
basically this

>>155192405
Marignon got pretty big after attacking Rus. Abysia, Mictlan and T'ien Ch'i are still superpowers. Agartha, Caelum and Gath are almost dead.

>>155192486
>barely half the nation's in the game in Oeridia.
>80 provinces per instead of 40.

I guess I can single player for a little while.

>>155192486
>>155193751
>admin actually started it

Oh boy here we go

>>155187341
You shouldn't be voting multiple times, Lambert.

>>155192486
>>155193791
Post pretender memes.

Modnation game when?

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As it turns out, when these bad boys die they turn into size 2 blessed water elementals.

>>155194235
Find me a working link for a working mod merger and I'll host it right now.

>>155194347
There's no such thing for Dominions 4.
Just merge them manually, it's not hard.

>>155194481
Yeah but I have no experience in that and since some other anon said he was going to host today, I'd rather just wait for that then instead of fucking it up.

>>155192405
I won a battle which was most unfortunate. now the war goes on forever

Could Der Gott Pan come in the steamshitter chat, or did I just miss him?

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I would agree Ulm if I wasn't the spooks

>>155195483
Ulm is super cute. First frontline rangers, then messaging Lemuria about Lemuria removal.

C U T E

>>155195483
>>155196019
That's the cutest thing I've seen in /domg/ games since Bogarus giving Ragha sidequests a few months ago.

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Dammit Ulm, you made me burn my gems!

AHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

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To pass the time: What would you like to see in an anime based on Dominions? Since this will never happen anyway, you don't have to worry about budget.

>>155197304
Rlyeh uw spamming armaggedons, and a party of heroes of different factions trying to defeat them.

Also marignon transitioning into blood, embracing blood magic, which they despised, to be able to fight undead.

>>155194264
>good stats
>3 attacks
>sacred
>turns into a sacred water elemental on death
>not even that expensive

Are they size 3? If so, wew lad. If they're size 4 that's still nice but a lot less good.

>>155196582
MAGE SUPPORT
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>>155196582
A Y U D A M A G I C A

>>155197768
Size 4 with 3 attacks is A O K. Remember, niefl giants and garmhirdings have ONE attack and still wreck shit.

>>155197870
Niefel Giants don't have 15 hp though.

>>155197768
Size 4, unfortunately. With the stats you mentioned + solid protection they sure wreck stuff. Plus, it's Atlantians riding bears.

>>155197768
Bears are size 4, I believe.

You should check the stats on size 2 water elementals, they're probably not as good as you're expecting. They have 10 att/def and only a single attack each.

>>155197870
Niefel Giants have cold aura and a ton of hp, and even then they are primarily useful early on.

Garmhirdings aren't very good at all, especially offensively. I'm not sure why you bothered mentioning them in the same sentence as niefel giants.

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Twiceborn!

>>155197304
The Punic Wars, but between Ermor and Berytos.

Really I'd just like to see an anthology type series covering the history of Dominions lore. Like what you'd put into a series about the real events, but the Dominions world. Which is really the same just people use magic to make more or less the same events happen.

>>155199481
That's a costly way to learn not to put your mages behind your elephants.

>>155199807

Nah bro.

Blood vengeance.

>>155199834
Ouch. I'm surprised it killed so many, but I guess tstrike gives your mages a lot of chances to fail MR checks.

Fighting Ermor makes me nuke some of my own Supayas every single time REEEEEEEEE

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>>155198151
>Garmhirdings aren't very good at all
Can confirm

>>155200410
Post battle reports.

Will effects like temper flesh and liquid body all stack? Or just take the most powerful?

>>155201031
Templer Flesh and Liquid Body stack. Most buffs stack unless they're the same effect.

>>155196582
What spells?

>>155201031
Temper Flesh gives the effects Fire Resistance, Slashing Resistance, Piercing Resistance, and Bludgeoning Resistance.

Liquid Body gives the effects Slashing Resistance, Piercing Resistance, Bludgeoning Resistance, and Liquid Body (reduces strength, reduces chance of afflictions, reduces movement speed).

You can't have two of the same effect, so you only get any additional effects which the other spell didn't have. In this case, either Fire Resistance or Liquid Body.

>>155202693

Liquid Body should totally give UW regen.

>>155203278
Same for when it rains.

>>155201787
Hurins: Hordes + Frighten
Inca RM: PP + Fireball
Full RM: whatever

i tought 25 physical damage would have been enough to pop fag warriors against middle prot units.
i was wrong.
fuck that spell. why does air have to be so overpowered?

>>155204335
>not just using magic damage
step up senpai

>>155196582
I will never get tired of scrubs who just ball up a ton of troops with their god and march them straight at the nearest capital.

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Abysia please go

>>155205359
Then just you wait for the next turn.

>>155205747
Jokes on you I don't have my capital

>>155205889
Did it get taken by a ball of troops with their god?