/hg/ - Halo General

BR starts in BTB is cancer

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2nd for DON'T TOUCH MY CLAW

>>155041156
But didn't people bitch at this game not having BR starts?

>>155041245
Yes.
Most people like the BR starts.

Although I'll concede that the 343 AR is accurate enough that I don't think they're necessary

The only people who complain about BR starts are AR babbies who can't aim

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Farewell thread 225.
We hardly knew ye.

Time to start reving up fresh new memes for 250.

Anyone for BTB hit me or Magic Muffin up.

>>155041336
>Most people like the BR starts.
Source? I'd say it's at least even split.
Here's reddit posts with most comments/upvotes are wanting magnum
https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/4bxp7g/br_starts_in_btb_needs_to_go/
https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/4wm40r/how_are_br_starts_in_btb_still_a_thing/
Small forgehub poll
http://www.forgehub.com/threads/br-or-pistol-starts-in-btb.151853/
Waypoint threads seem to be roughly even split from what I've seen.

>>155041698
>reddit
And just like that, post discarded

>>155041698
It was heavily applauded on waypoint when it became a thing.

Not surprised reddit wants it casualized

>>155041764
>I don't like your source!
>It proves me wrong!
>I'll just ignore it!

ebin, simply ebin

>>155041764
How do you determine what the community prefers if you don't look at the popular community forums?
The first link has Bravo responding, so if you ignore reddit you're missing out on 343 responses.
>>155041816
Waypoint is at least as casual as reddit.

>>155041764
>I want sources
>but I don't want YOUR sources
Where the fuck else do you want numbers from on this?

>>155041991
Never asked for sources.
Just stated that waypoint generally liked BR start at release.

I don't browse reddit so I can't comment on that community.

>>155041878
>>155041910
>>155041991
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acdaee3cc4156fd4/topics/br-dmr-starts-poll/633383c7-1319-4aec-a6d9-c3899faa5e3d/posts?page=1

>>155041536
>>155041816
>implying br starts aren't more casual
Magnum is harder to use than BR.

>>155041245
Only in games where the other starting weapons aren't adequate enough to defend yourself.

>>155042236
Appologists btfo

>>155042120
You'd start demanding them if he elaborated. As it stands, anyone who mashes the enter key in their post can be ignored.

>>155042236
Here's another waypoint poll, once again in favor of BR starts

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/90a6869bcf944c54a17102ac9e31da1a/topics/who-wants-br-start-playlists-back-esports-style/87c84978-66df-43a9-80dd-621f55f5030a/posts

>>155042236
>>155042397
I like how these polls are from before BTB was in and nobody knew that BR starts didn't work.

>>155042397
>>155042236
DELETE THIS!
I NEED THE GAME CASUALIZED!!!
REDDIT DEMANDS IT!

>>155042474
This.

I guarantee you, I GUARANTEE YOU, that if you go on waypoint right now and make a poll asking if people like BR starts in btb the VAST MAJORITY will not like it and will want it removed.

>>155042539
ebin, simply ebin

>>155042474
>moving the goalposts off the planet and into another dimension
That's fine. I can play this game however you like. You'll still lose.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/90a6869bcf944c54a17102ac9e31da1a/topics/pistol-starts-for-btb-or-br-starts/871617de-1ebd-4f28-92a7-39175f7183dc/posts?page=1

>>155042673
>back when there were only three maps

>>155042842
This goalpost moving is just pathetic

>>155042236
That poll is asking about BR starts in normal arena. BTB wasn't out yet.
>>155042397
THis one is from the day it released and is 52/48, I'd say that's roughly equal.
>>155042673
Here's another one page poll that shows the opposite.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/90a6869bcf944c54a17102ac9e31da1a/topics/btb-br-vs-magnum-starts/005b307a-bcd2-4e27-842e-03a5e4e39a36/posts

>>155040812
>yfw H5 is the game with the most BTB maps in it's playlist

>>155042842
>proven wrong
>proven wrong twice
>proven wrong THREE TIMES

>"b-best 5 out of 7?"
pathetic

>>155042891
They haven't moved at all. The topic is "BR starts are cancer."
Also, >>155042893
>That poll is asking about BR starts in normal arena. BTB wasn't out yet.
Your own sources work against you.

>>155042979
>one of them isn't even about BTB, it's about arena
>another is from the day-of release
>the third is before the map update that added more then the three or so maps it had

People don't want Magnums in BTB because everyone in that playlist is trying to stat, and the BR gets them the easiest kills.

heres another Poll from waypoint strongly in favor of BR starts

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/90a6869bcf944c54a17102ac9e31da1a/topics/ranked-big-team-battle/7a9d2cbd-35b5-430b-9c4e-98406daa6545/posts

Are the ARfags getting nervous?

>>155042397
>day of BTB patch
>52 to 48
>Poll asks BR vs AR starts and doesn't mention magnum
....I feel people were comparing it to Halo 3 BTB spawns with AR not Halo 5 magnum spawns.

Are people actually defending BR starts in a game with hitscan?

>>155043163
>btb wasn't even out yet
>ARfags
Do you even know what this argument is about?

Kek, I actually checked up on reddit and people there actually want more BR starts.
MORE, as in not just in Big Team.

That anon that posted the reddit poll was just picking and choosing his sources
https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/3qe9un/no_br_starts_is_frustrating/

>>155043268
Yes.

The 3v4i Defence Force is out in full right now. Best to head on down to the pub and wait for this to all blow over.

>>155043268
>Are people actually defending BR starts in a game with hitscan?
Not really, just pointing out that the majority prefers it that way.

That doesn't mean it's right or wrong.

>>155043330
>complains about picking a choosing
>picks another source from 10 months ago
>WHEN BTB WASN'T OUT

>>155043268
>Are people actually defending BR starts in a game with hitscan?
No, it's just about what more people like more.
I for one don't like BR starts, but it's clear based on the polls the majority do.

>>155043530
>polls from a year ago before the mode was out
The most recent poll we have is from March, and that was also before shit like Altar happened.

>>155043268
Nothing wrong with BR starts when the other weapons are shitty.

>>155043330
>10 month old thread
>before BTB was even out

c'mon man

>>155043163
>11/11/2015
>>155043330
>oct 27 with 2 upvotes
Why are still posting polls from before BTB was even in the game.

If you think I picked and choose from reddit here are two polls with lots of votes, both favor magnum by good margin.
https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/4d72x5/strawpoll_for_br_or_magnum_starts_in_btb/
https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/4jxtdf/i_made_an_online_poll_relating_to_big_team_battle/

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Let's end this once and for all.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11245425

>>155043661
>release poll
>"BTB wasn't out yet"
>release another poll
>"It wasn't out long enough yet"
Just stop

>>155043727
>no captcha
>AR starts instead of Magnum starts, which is what the debate was about

>>155043727
>strawmeme

>>155043749
There are three linked waypoint polls that are after BTB release.
One is one page and favors magnum, one is one page favors br.
The third is 5 pages from day of release and poll options were BR vs AR not magnum. And even then it's only a 52 vs 48 difference. That's like three people.

I think the original statement of it being at least 50/50 split is valid.

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>>155043727
>it was just one guy, that browses reddit, and can't into BR accuracy and prefers to sprawling and pray all along
Figures

>>155044079
Fucking Kek

Why are people calling it AR starts when it would be Magnum starts?

>>155044079
Except there's at least two other guys arguing in favor of Magnum.

>>155044079
>poll up for 5 minutes
>8 responses

ebin, simply ebin

>>155043794
>using captcha meme

>>155044254
>suddenly at 11
This is why we never do captchaless polls

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>>155044254
>i-it will to turn around! It has to!!!!!

>captcha less strawpoll in /hg/ represents Halo 5's userbase

>>155044428
>>155044079
>1250 REQ points have been deposited into your account

>>155044195
Because it's assumed to be AR/Magnum since it's been that way for all Halos

>>155044573
>All these sources from a variety of places (reddit, waypoint, /hg/) don't count for reasons A, B, C, D, E, Feb, etc.

>>155044728
If you're a retard. Starts for BTB are already AR/BR.

What is your favorite Halo 5 BTB map?

>>155044759
All that's really needed as a counterargument for that is how the very first source "proving" that people wanted BRs in BTB was for fucking arena 4v4.

>>155044902
None.

They're all shit.

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>>155044775
>If you're a retard. Starts for BTB are already AR/BR.

>>155044759
>reddit supports magnum 64% and 74%
>forgehub heavily supports magnum 84%
>waypoint is almost even split, with one thread for magnum, one for br, and one for BR at 52%

>>155044998
Have you played BTB? Unless they changed it today, it's been AR primary with BR secondary since it launched.

>>155045123
There's reddit and waypoint polls saying otherwise.

I'm done with you. Enjoy your innevitable last word.

>>155045278
Could you link them?

>>155045123
Right, and all the other polls don't count, right?
Ok.

>>155045278
Did you seriously just gave up the argument because i presented evidence you cant refute?Lol.Also nice ad hominem again.Everything you spew is full of logical fallacies and assumptions. You have provided 0 evidence to prove your point and went on to attack me because you can not disprove my argument.Damn

"I don't care I just want BR starts on these maps that were designed for Magnum because I'm a fucking retard"

- this thread

>>155045335
Not him, but polls about a gametype before a gametype released don't count. And only one poll given in favor of BR starts was even post-launch of BTB."

>>155045390
"I don't care I just want AR starts on these maps that were designed for Magnum, I know that because I designed them. I'm always right"
- a casual

>got accepted into the Windows 10 spartan company
>but not the just "PC" one
Can I resend a request anyway?

When does the company do shit? Does it like send you a notification or something? I have no idea how the halo or xbox app is supposed to work on PC.

>>155045427
>these sources don't count
He literally fucking said it. Jesus Christ.

And even then you're wrong, there's plenty of polls here released after the gametype that still support BR. Hell, there's a poll for this thread that wants them. But I guess that doesn't count either...

>>155045427
But that's wrong faggot. There's polls here that state against your opinion.
Oh, do they "not count" either?
Sorry.

>>155045335
What other polls? The rest linked itt were literally from before BTB was added to the game and some weren't even about BTB.

>>155045427
There were two post-launch, but one was only one page thread and it there was another thread that favored magnum so I think of them as cancelling out. Leaving just the 52 to 48 poll which was from release day.

>>155045508
>"I don't care I just want AR starts on these maps that were designed for Magnum, I know that because I designed them. I'm always right"
Are you just trolling now? Nobody is asking for Ar/AR starts...

>>155045641
Could you link them? I only see two.

>>155045641
>there's plenty of polls here released after the gametype that still support BR.
Give them, then. Because only one is post-launch.

>>155045427
>these polls don't count
>only mine do
I'm all for AR/mag starts, but Holy shit shut up.

>mfw didn't even realize BR vs AR Starts was a thing

Am I the only one who thinks people make a bigger deal of this than it deserves?

>>155045553
You can see who is online in the company in the Halo 5 menus but I would rather try to message people on the xbox app for an invite.

>>155045786
Yes, let's count the poll from three days before Halo 5 launched as to how BTB loadouts should be run.

>>155045845
We just had a BTB update, and even the map creators are unhappy because it was designed around AR/Magnum.

>>155045845
It's literally just like 2 people spamming the AR start thing.
Everyone else is fine with it how it is

>>155045924
>It's literally just like 2 people spamming the AR start thing.
>Everyone else is fine with it how it is
This.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's sigmund.

>>155045508
I know that because the creators of many of the maps have been talking about how 343 won't budge on the BR starts and have specifically stated that their maps are designed for pistol

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SUMMONING THE NUMBERFAG

OH NUMBERFAG, SAVE US FROM THIS POINTLESS ARGUMENT OVER WHAT "MOST PEOPLE" LIKE WITH A MAP WE CAN DISCUSS AND ARGUE ABOUT INSTEAD

>ITT people think that opinions don't change after they realize the idea was a mistake
>especially if the polls were from before the release of said idea
Daily reminder Waypoint is 343 shills until it's convenient to forget that fact.

It really couldn't get any more shill in here

343 could come take a shit right on your faces and you'd all still be defending it

Oh wait, that already happened with MCC

I always assume BR start fags only liked BR starts because of Halo 3. The AR in that game was useless.

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>>155046120
I'll join in

I SACRIFICE MY PET RABBIT TO BRING OUT THE NUMBERFAG

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/jffry890/video/21615787
>last 10 seconds
Fucking horseshit.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/jffry890/video/21615785
>last 10 seconds
Does this count as a no-scope?

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/jffry890/video/21615782
>last 10 seconds
I did that on purpose.

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>>155045924
>lmao it's 2 people!
Dude, nobody likes BR starts. I haven't met a single person from this general who said they thought BR starts was a good idea.
Plus, we're talking magnum starts. We already start with a fucking AR.
>mfw 343 defense force is ACTUALLY real

>>155046165
I thought 343 took that shit with Halo 4. 343 later took a piss with MCC.

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>>155045863
>nobody online
Okay.

>get armor in daily free req
>it's kind of ugly
I think I might just keep the standard recruit armor over this.

Is there any chance of PC getting anything other than custom games or should I just sell all my req thingies to buy armor customization options?

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COME FORTH OH NUMBERFAG

>>155046420

>it's kind of ugly

Welcome to literally 99% of halo 5 armors

>>155046120
>>155046271
>>155046472

I'm sleeping. Call back later.

>>155046165

Don't be a fucking bitch, m8

>S-stop disagreeing with m-me *sob* you s-stupid a-apologists *sniff*

>>155046420
They are going to make a custom server browser later on but nobody knows how long it's going to take.
If you aren't going to play Xbox, sell everything.

>>155046690
HE SPEAKS!

>>155046709
How can I buy new armor shit? Or like, what do I use these points for?

Can I change my loadouts any way? Like get the gunfighter magnum or a DMR card or anything? Does it actually change my loadout in games or is that for something specific?

>>155046690
You have one job.
ONE JOB.

Do it then you can fuck off back to sleep

>>155046704
>500 req points have been deposited in your account. Keep up the good work!

>>155046531
The only good armour in 5 is Vale's armour.

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>>155046690
what did he mean by this?

>>155046865

Lel well memed

Ur a clever individual, m8

>>155046704
Don't be a retard, m8.

BR starts don't work well with the super accurate BR in 5. Literally any open space becomes a death sniper zone. They also shred vehicles too fast.

>>155047074
Careful anon, he'll give you sources from before launch to prove himself right!

>>155046837
You can get armors though requisition packs. Silvers and Golds guarantee 2 permanent unlocks, while bronze is a chance for only one permanent. Being on PC, getting points is impossible besides daily packs.
Those loadouts, including the cards you can sell, are only for warzone which you can't play on PC.

>>155047074

Don't even give a shit, the only people I ever saw argue about this are autists on here and Waypoint.

I was referring to the "everybody who disagrees with me are apologists/shills" retards. It's a nice red flag for "I'm a dumb autist who spergs out and spouts shit when people disagree with me".

What ate the must have maps to download? I want a bunch of good quality remakes of old maps.

Is there an online thing I can browse to find maps instead of having to search through the in game menus? On PC here.

PC LOBBY WHERE

>>155048119
>more magnum than BR
Wew

Ay yo anyone playan right now?

>>155047982
You can look them up on the Halo Waypoint website.

>>155048280
There's like 12 people just sitting in the fucking menus so I just mass-invited all of them. I'll play BTB if you want.

>>155048585
Added you

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>hunter arms on all these BTB maps
I'm okay with this

>>155047538
"I don't even give a shit"

OK so why blindly defend 343 when many of the map creators have said how frustrating it is that they're so set on BR starts? And if you didn't care, then wouldn't the possible improvements that pistol starts bring not bother you either?

There'd certainly be a lot less endless CTF matches that go into overtime every round if not everyone had a 4-shot cross map gun on them when they spawn.

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>>155048401
What are the good remake maps?

>found a deluge remake that's actually appropriately foggy

Shit this new Forge system is great, I always wanted to make a Deluge remake in Reach but there was no adequate way to include the fog, which is a vital part of the map.

>>155049630

Whatever works. It doesn't matter to me, I'm more concerned about important stuff.

I doubt it's a recent discussion either.

>>155048119
Careful, anon. The BR fags don't like hard evidence. Even if they posted it.

>Play campaign.
>Get to the end.

What the fuck was that boring shit and what did it have to do with all the build up of Locke vs Chief in the trailers?

>>155048119
So waypoint wants BRs, reddit doesnt.
Thanks for clearing it up

>>155050308

Nothing at all.

The guy who wrote it is the same hack who wrote Spartan Ops and that godawful comic sequel to Halo 4.

Dunno how in God's name they thought he'd be good for the job.

>>155050308
I tried playing it without any sound and older Halo music playing and I skipped the cutscenes so I could avoid the story.
It was even worse because it was easier to notice how short the levels were and terrible the gameplay was.

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>>155050308

>>155050351
>one was before BTB
>other two had opposite results
Even waypoint isn't completely sold on BR starts,

Game crashed.

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We need more Halo games with hubs

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>magnum starts are casual

>>155050605
ODST had way too much copy paste in its hub

Wouldn't Big Team Battle, being focused on larger scale fights with much larger maps, naturally facilitate the use of BRs?

I'm just not seeing what the argument or issue is here. It seems mostly just two sides flinging shit and polls without really discussing much.

>>155050492
The levels were ridiculously short and lacked not only the urgency, but scale of the previous titles. I remember being in awe during CE, 2, 3, ODST, even Reach and 4, but this game was a bore to try and get through. And some levels were just walking around and talking to Palmer/Halsey. Literally... The worst thing I've played. The music was also unmemorable and I can even remember tracks from Halo 4.

>>155050351
Waypoint WANTED BRs, then they changed their minds.

>>155050824
Believe it or not, there's people here that defend 5's campaign.

>>155050906
I never even respond to appologists anymore.
You can't cure that kind of cancer

>>155050729
ODST was also meant to be a $20 expansion pack.

>>155050308
Or you know, "Spartan locke, you and I both know that at the end of this, ONI will kill us both"

Literally at the intro of the game

>>155050906
Now that's terrible. So, the campaign is shit, the multiplayer is shit, everything that you used to be able to get via achievements/progression is gone in favor of grinding/spending money. Does Halo 5 have anything going for it outside of Forge?

>>155051049
Yes, very true, but that was also ditched from the game in favor of "Bring my son home, Locke, or die trying"

>>155050906

Is it "defending" or "discussing a handful of parts they enjoy amidst an overall lackluster experience"?

I feel like people here are too mentally deficient to tell the difference. I haven't ever seen someone say it was even good.

>>155050771
Here's video going over it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3EjjDo4VT8

>>155051343
Everyone enjoys level 2
Some people enjoy the Sanghelios section
Almost nobody enjoys anything else.

>>155051219
The only good parts of the game are on PC and play better there

>>155051049
>Or you know, "Spartan locke, you and I both know that at the end of this, ONI will kill us both"
That's not the quote.
she says "they will order you to kill us both"

We don't know who "they" is and we don't know who "us" is outside of Halsey being a part of it.

We can specilate, but nobody actually knows.

>>155051783

I'd agree with that (with a couple other minor additions).

It seems a trend that having any preference outside of that (or including that) is enough to brand one a "defender".

"Apologist" and "defense force" is basically a meaningless meme at this point. It's used to dismiss everything from "Halo 5's campaign is the best" to "I hate absolutely everything about Halo 5, but I like how the Ghost looks". It's even used to dismiss "Halo 3's campaign is bad", which is about as unrelated as possible.

>>155051783
I kind of enjoy level 14 because it's mostly crawlers, knight, and non-teleporting soldiers.
Mission 15 until you're locked in the room is good. It gives a ton of close and long range options and lets you pick your own path while giving you like half of the vehicles in the game.

>>155052170
It's clearly oni

Locke is an ONI agent, who else would he take orders from

>>155052734

Apologist

>>155052978
But I don't like 5. Even the Sanghelios levels are mostly shit with just a few decent spots.

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>>155049761
I find this pit remake good.

>>155053161

I doubt most anybody does. At best they'd say "I liked it but it's far behind every other Halo". But you just said you liked a part of the game. Hence, you "defended" it; hence, when somebody talks about /hg/ being overrun by apologists and 343 defense force, they're talking about people like you.

It's a very autistic mindset.

>>155053538
Lots of straw manning m8.

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>they fixed the vehicle spawn glitch in warzone

>>155053538
>they're talking about people like you.
No, because nobody here is like Pingas. Saying "this tiny part is ok" is different from "you guys just don't GET what 343 is doing for the franchise!"

>>155053581

Exactly

>>155053437
Link?

Can I stop people from joining me so I can just play around in Forge without people bothering me?

>>155053770
Set lobby to invite only.

>>155053880
How?

>>155044079
>>155044428

>Not wanting SMG starts

>>155053716
Never linked a map but I think it should work.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/games/halo-5-guardians/xbox-one/map-variants?lastModifiedFilter=Everything&sortOrder=BookmarkCount&page=1&gamertag=IlSilentII#ugc_halo-5-guardians_xbox-one_mapvariant_IlSilentII_95018ae6-35a0-4c3e-8e57-fb22701ec6fe

>>155053651

Then who are they talking about?

I remember back when the Campaign graphs were posted, somebody attempted to compile a pic of posts "defending" Halo 5. The only one they found was somebody saying "I liked the Sanghelios levels".

Again: "apologist" and "defense force" have become meaningless buzzwords used by people too autistic to handle differing opinions.

>>155054308
>Then who are they talking about?
I already gave a rather specific example.

>>155054207
This would be big pimpin' 2bh

So, someone last thread had an image about building the perfect Halo title, and I think I got it.

>Campaign
Halo: CE mixed with Halo 3: ODST.
>Soundtrack
ODST.
>Gameplay
Halo 2A mixed with Halo 4 weapon balance.
>Multiplayer Gameplay
Halo 2A mixed with Halo 4 weapon balance.
>Multiplayer Maps
Halo 2 and Halo 3 map design.
>Firefight
ODST's Firefight and Reach's Invasion mixed.
>Forge Mode
Halo 5.
>Aesthetics
Like Halo 4, Halo 2A, and ODST had a baby.

>>155055047
>Like Halo 4
No.

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>>155055047
>Halo 2A mixed with Halo 4 weapon balance.
>Halo 2A mixed with Halo 4 weapon balance.

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>>155055047
>like halo 4

>>155055131
Halo 4 has some nice aesthetics though.

>>155055153
>>155055187
I just re-read what I wrote. I meant 3, not 4. 3's weapon balance, but with a beefier pistol.

>>155054076
You on PC?
I forgot and in-game so I don't know.

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>>155055047
Bungie already built the perfect Halo title.

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>>155055047

>Aesthetics

I'd like to keep a few of Halo 5's aesthetics. Sangheilified Covie Weapons and Vehicles, primarily.

>>155055282
>Halo 4 has some nice aesthetics though.
No, it did not.

>>155055291

Perfect aside from the terrible Campaign and art style, maybe.

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>>155055338
>wanting to keep halo 5 wraith

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>>155055472

Yeh

I know it's a meme suggestion but I'd like it if the old smg came back as some sort of quick mag loadout attachment.
Nothing was more satisfying to me than watching the flick of the wrist toss off the magazine and slapping on a new one.

>>155055047
>Campaign
CE and 2
>Soundtrack
3
>Gameplay
5
>Multiplayer Gameplay
Reach mixed with 5
>Firefight
Reach
>Forge
5
>Aesthetics
2A

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>SWAT CTF

>>155055626
>hiding the unbalanced side profile
Why did the back of the wraith need to atrophy? It looks like it should tip backwards all the time.

>>155055898
Is that dumbass asking for it again? Or did somebody make him party leader?

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>>155055941

Antigravity projectors, I suppose.

The Wraith in Halo 5 is actually supposed to be a "light" variant of Wraith, apparently: the "Light Assault Gun Carriage" as opposed to just the "Assault Gun Carriage".

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>>155056274
I mean there's canon reason. I'd much prefer going forward to have the original wraith style where the back is in line with front.

>>155056274
I like the back of it. If the front wasn't so ugly and the back touched the ground I think it would look pretty good.

Do we have a PC group going for Custom Games?

>>155055471

The art style is the best thing about the game and it holds up extremely well

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>>155057079

It looks like a cartoon. A hideous cartoon.

Which I guess fits, considering the demographic it was trying to attract.

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>>155057265

>>155057265
>considering the demographic it was trying to attract.
I would like to remind everyone that 343 went out of their way to make Halo T for Teen.

>>155057468
>trying to reason with the Defence Force

Don't bother, man, it's not worth it.

>>155057265

Anyone can cherry pick examples but when you compare it to any other Halo game it looks as aesthetically pleasing now as it did then.As far as art style is concerned, it is the peak of the franchise. I don't care much for the game but a good art style goes a long way.

>>155057569
>defence
There's no way there's more than one fucking autistic Brit complaining about this

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>>155055282
Halo 4 is muddy ugly garbage and they ruined the UNSC, covenant, and forerunner styles.

The concept art is amazing but in-game everything falls horribly short

>>155057782
>Brit

I'm from the Colonies, chum.

>>155057569

>talking exclusively about Halo 3
>"LOL 343 DEFENSE FORCE"

I'd love a clear explanation of when this conversation was about anything other than Halo 3, and how disliking it automatically means someone loves or hates any other game in the series.

>>155058210
The post quoted by the "defense force" post explicitly references 343.

>>155058623
Funny how it wasn't the "defense force" that brought up 343

>>155055471
And the bad multiplayer.

>>155058210
Only 3v4i babbies have a problem with Halo 3

>>155059928
That, and everyone with the series before 3.
>b-but i actually started before the xbox launched 3v4! 3v4!

>>155059928

Do I even have to point out how wrong this is?

>>155055471
>bad art style

Halo 4&5 are 10 times worse

>>155059928
I like Halo 2 the most, and I think Halo 3 is the fucking worst out the main 3.

>>155060087
No point in arguing with the "anti-defense force"

>>155062165
Fucking Shut the fuck up you fucking retard

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>>155062272

>>155062165

I just find it sad that, despite technically being right about 343 and what they've done, many of 343's most vehement critics seem to be kinda stupid.

I think it really as a kind of autism. Luckily they seem to take a kind of idiotic pride in the flags by which we can identify said autism:

>3v4i
>defense force
>apologists
>shills

>>155062272

You rustled, m8?

>>155062272
xDDD

>>155062272
Shut up you little faggot retard bungie defender bitch. I'll have you know that 343 can actually do no wrong and all the bungie games are pure fucking shit.

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>>155062659
>autism

>>155062659
The only autists are the ones who unironically care if someone says 3v4i.

>>155063154
No, the only autist is the one forcing his shitty meme

>>155063154

We're trying to help you, m8. If you want to look like an idiot whose opinions mean nothing, go ahead.

I mean, the only reason people are still using it is a misguided attempt to piss off a nonexistent "defense force", so...

>>155063647
>mean, the only reason people are still using it is a misguided attempt to piss off a nonexistent "defense force", so...

This is wrong. I use it because I think the name fits the company perfectly. I don't care if it upsets anyone or anyone else likes it or anyone else uses it.

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>it doesn't annoy us we just respond to it every 0time

>>155063867
>I think the name fits the company perfectly!
>it only describes the first few months of MCC
Yeah, sure. I guess brown and bloom with loadouts fits Bungie perfectly. :^)

>>155063941

Fucking Shut the fuck up you fucking retard

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>>155064830

>>155063941
You seem like a fun guy, why don't you post GT so we can play together :P

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>>155064991
Post themes.
http://youtu.be/bR-s4ReIxJo

>>155066661
>posts his own theme

Madman

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Redpill on the members of the circle jerk /hg/

>>155067287
What can I say, I was taking a crack at myself.

>>155067383
How about kill yourself instead of shitposting, you fucking faggot?

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>>155067504

>decide to check out new BTB maps
>playing on Estuary for the first time
>get betrayed after picking up camo
>playing on revamped anti-freeze
>get betrayed after picking up camo

Also, why do the new versions of the maps have framerate problems?

>>155066661
https://youtu.be/GlJf2l5tcD0

>>155069505
The whole game suffers from not only frame rate issues, but also the fact that textures just don't load or either pop in and out. It's annoying.

>>155070324
Works on my machine

(for real, never had those problems)

>>155071046
Really? I have the Xbone that came with MCC and shit is constantly popping in and out, textures not loading, draw distance about as good as OG Xbox Morrowind, etc. Maybe my bone is about to be boned then.

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>join game
>kicked
>join later
>customs lobby
>join next day
>11 people in party all playing with no open spots
>why do you never play halo dude lmao

any pc lobbies up?

>>155071205
That's weird. Only game like that for me is halo 4. Because that game has terrible ugly low res textures and insanely short pop-in on every system. It's how it was designed to compensate for the overdone lighting system that they actually toned down in 5.

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Customs lobby going on
Join in on TrivialProdigy

Guys, I'm glad that your reflexes are sharp and your aim is true, but I don't give a fuck about that.

>>155072010
Who else is in it? Almost everyone just says In Menu.

>>155072147
Wall
Tobin
Grim
Rentajew
Sigmund the liar
Bias
And CDR

>>155072285
>Wall
no thanks.

>>155072391
What did Wall do to you?

>>155072391

Did he hurt your feefees?

>>155072853
Sucked my dick and gave me 30 dollars. Traumatized me for life.

>>155072285
>kicked to menu every time game is loading
I'll try some other time.

>>155073075
Come on man just restart your game

>sigmund will never cheat on his big gay husband red with the sultry and mysterious young man he meets in a bar named adjacentbias

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>>155075230

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>>155075230
I never knew how bad I wanted this

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>>155075230

>sigmund

why is it that every fucking headset i buy breaks in like 2 months, fuck this shit and fuck xbox support

>its a bully kai episode

Why would you do this to our Faithfull Leader?

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>>155076947

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>>155076947
We're clearly bullying JosephDestroyer for being an athiest and voting Bernie. Keep up, dumbass.

>>155077993
>believing in god

https://youtu.be/EAeuxI6ppeM

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couldn't find my /hg/ anon, so i'm back niggas.

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>>155080382
>couldn't find your /hg/ anon
Are you in

LONDON?
O
N
D
O
N
?

Any PC lobby's up?

>>155081510
PC OR XBOX?

Show's over. Invite me, faggots.

>join PC Halo group
>no one is on
>PC Halo is dead
wew lad

>go to join /hg/
>they're playing big team battle

So I guess I'm playing overwatch or something.

>>155082139
Everyone got over the intial hype of Halo 5 on PC, but its pretty shitty without servers

>>155082226

Missed us playing customs for 3 hours

>>155082525
Saturdays are for college football, m8.

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>>155082525
>20 minutes alone on Crane World

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I made a 1080p cleaned up version of this screen but it's too big to upload so here's a direct imgur link.
http://i.imgur.com/SimTyLX.jpg

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>>155084592
If anyone has the error screen I'd be willing to do the same

>>155044079
>not wanting rail gun starts

Who invited the normie to the party?

>>155085637
>This is why there are private parties

>>155085637
No one invites normies. Normies are insidious. They sneak in undetected and act as a cancer from within. Anyone could be a normie. YOU could be a normie. I could be a normie.

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>>155086140
>spoiler
You aren't fooling anyone Red

>>155086694
>red
It's the other alcoholic.

>>155086765
jffry?

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When is 3v4i releasing this req?

>>155086961
>3v4i
Ignored

>>155086961
Never, because then no one would play 5

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>>155086961
3v4i?

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>>155086765
>the other
Literally half of /hg/ is alcoholic, though the britbongs account for much of this

>>155087187
Oh. Welp. Guess I'm in good company.

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>>155087187
>tfw teetotaler master race

Is it possible to get Nightfall helmet + armor through reqs?

>>155089981
Yes although it's quite rare and I don't know why you'd want it. It's a disgrace to the ODST armor we have come to know and love.

>>155089981
Yes, you can get every armor through REQs.

Helioskrill is meaningless.

>>155089981
You can get everything except HCS armor and achilles.

>>155090172
What are the requirements for those?

>>155090265
You had to pay real money for HCS pack.
You have to finish company kill commendations.

>>155090265
>>155090354
Never mind you could get it for 80k. But this was in early december so most people probably didn't have the reqs for it.

>>155082504
Once it gets the custom game browser it will literally be better than Xbox

>>155090526
Too bad it pc costs twice as much.

>>155090602
It's free on PC. My toaster plays the game with better visuals than on Xbox.

>>155090602
I can literally play the game on my 4 year old HP HDX.

>>155090469
Ah, so theres no way to obtain it now?

>>155090661
That's not toaster.
>>155090694
How much did it cost?

>>155090602
My PC cost me only $200 more than what I paid for my Xbone and it runs Halo 5 far better than the console can.

>>155090795
At the time? 700. It got me through 4 years of college and has an infinitely bigger library than the Xbox One, plus it plays Halo 5 better.

I could easily assemble a PC of equivalent power for under 500.

>>155090918
>I could easily assemble a PC of equivalent power for under 500.
console get 2x performance for same hardware

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>>155091046
>console get 2x performance for same hardware

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>>155091046
>console get 2x performance for same hardware
People actually believe this

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>>155091046

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>>155091087
>>155091135
>>155091172

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>>155091046
Have fun with your burnt out PSU senpai

>>155091046
Maybe if you're retarded and shop for PCs at best buy.

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All too easy. Y'all playing literally anything but BTB yet?

>>155091353
>2am
I'll let you think about this fish

>>155092148
Who would play Halo at 2 am?

>>155093460
i would if there was anyone on for pc

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>>155091353

>>155093710
I would if my windows would FUCKING WORK.
FUCKING MICROSHIT REEEEE.

>>155092148
If I didn't have classes I would

I want a Kai body pillow

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I finished the map I was making but I've not got anyone to test play it with without any matchmaking or server browsers.

>>155100523
Don't worry anon it looks tremendously shit anyway

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Does anybody else actually really like the more arthropodal look of the Grunts in Halo 5?
It's much better than the scaly Gears of War Garbage from Halo 4.
If only we could get the classic triangular backpack and gas mask on him he'd look perfect, 343 are soo close to good with some of Halo 5s designs, but fall just short.

>>155100523
looks like 2fort

>>155104585
I haven't played since 4 came out and that was an immemorable haze.

I barely recognized that this was a grunt so I can't say I like the way it looks.

Do you think Halo 6 will go back to rated M or is it forever going to be toned down just for a few extra shekels

>>155091194
Mmm yes what was the last game he worked on that used his ingenious solutions to milk console hardware to its absolute limits?

I love the nigga, I understand what he means by this, and I know his contributions to VR will be invaluable, but I'll wait for you to cite a video game that wasn't in the 90's where this would be true.

it's standard practice these days for devs to just shit out lazy code because they're dime a dozen code monkeys who know the publisher will just fire them and hire some cheap Indian labor if time and budgets aren't met.

>>155109302
Has Halo ever warranted an M-rating that much?

>>155115821
>Blood spooling out of characters when shot
>Group of alien races trying to and nearly succeeding in exterminating humanity
>Alien parasite that grotesquely shapes the body of any organic life into an abomination from hell
I'd say yeah

>>155116014
Cartoon blood has been in T rated games, it doesn't warrant the brutality as other games have had.

>>155100523
Link?

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>>155115821
Given what ESRB generally rates as "M", the first game absolutely deserves the rating. Easily.

After that it's up for debate.

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>>155116698
This. In a way I kind of lost a job over this actually.

I used to babysit two kids, ages 8 and 10, who live near by. The parents are a young couple so they would go out almost every Saturday night and needed a sitter.
The kids have an Xbox One and Halo 5, which they played a lot, but they had never played the first game, so I was all "ah dude you gotta play it" and I brought it over.

It scared them both and gave them nightmares. The Mom was livid and hasn't called me back since.

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>>155117086
That's the problem with kids these days.
Not enough nightmares.

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>>155055047
>Campaign
CE and ODST yeah, with a touch of 3
>Soundtrack
CE style
>Gameplay
Halo 2A with CE elements and a bit of Halo 3
>Multiplayer maps
A grab bag (or every single map) from Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 3, Reach and H2A.
>Firefight
Reach all the way
>Forge Mode
Reach and Halo 5, allowing you to use the less complex tool set from Reach for ease of building when roughing out and playing around, then switch to the in depth set from 5 when it's required.
>Aesthetics
This will be my controversial opinion probably.
I want it it visually to be the most like Reach, but with a lot of elements from and a graphical level of detail similar to H2A

>>155111328
>CQC expert
>very first mission, he steps out of cover on a long-range battlefield with a shotgun
Fucking Hoya.