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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /hoy/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php?build=5
(This build is downloadable and playable)

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Running Giten Megami Tensei in windowed mode with Chiitrans:
http://pastebin.com/0gguMLyL
http://pastebin.com/21W8HmWY

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Second for fucking krishna's boypussy.
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>>154992981
poo in loo
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>forgetting to link last thread
>>154865967
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>>154992981
Okay, pajeet.
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So is the new game worth getting?
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>>154993313
No. Now go play a good game like EO.
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> Suddenly, a manly demon appears from Maruo's body.
>it's Mara
fucking kek
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>>154991189
whats wrong with playing an undub? i couldnt stand smt4's dub as it sounded like the most uninspired shit ever and i heard like all of p3 and p4's english voice actors again
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>>154993313
Yes. Unlike sleep journey, nocturne and IV, there's actually a plot before the last 10% of the game.
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>A 7/10 review for Apocalypse that complains about sexist character designs (specifically, the demons) and that uses the sexist character designs as one of the end-of-review "cons" made it onto Metacritic and affected the total score
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>>154993478
>Caring about Metacritic
I will now spam you with smug anime girls.
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>>154993381
Its pointless. You can't understand the language. Just turn the voices off. The idea that there's a point is retardation invented by weeps.
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>>154993567
It's the principle of the thing.
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>>154993478
>think you're bullshitting me
>look it up
>Even more offensive are the female demons, who can use moves such as “Sexy Dance” to “charm” their enemies.
I know I shouldn't give a shit, but god damn.
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>>154993723
>>154993586
>>154993478
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>>154993478
>sexist character designs.

If someone wants to complain about sexism, at least go with the fact that in a series with self inserts that could easily be either sex there's rarely a female option.
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>>154993818
>>154993723
>>154993586
>>154993478
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Is Lilith still some bug creature in Apocalypse?
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>>154993943
Lilith isn't in apocalypse. She was killed by flynn and johnathan.
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>>154993930
I'll be back; I'm reloading.
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>>154961462
what is this talk about toki and censoring? are there titties to be seen?
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>>154993986
Yeah but surely you can fuse her
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>>154993930
You said you were gonna spam us with smug girls, but that's Flynn.
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>>154993478
>Many of the game’s females are dolled up or play the part of damsels in distress. Even more offensive are the female demons, who can use moves such as “Sexy Dance” to “charm” their enemies.
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>>154994402
Stop posting
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>>154994368
>>154993818
>>154993723
>>154993586
>>154993478
>>154994458
>Stop posting
No. I'll stop when I run out of smug chinese girls.
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>>154994526
Please go back to /a/, or at least /v/.
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>>154994539
I ask you to read the OP. Read the subject while you're at it.
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>>154994616
Come to think of it why is there no edition on it? We always have editions.
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>>154994539
>>154994458
Coincidentally, I just ran out of anime girls. Lucky you, I suppose.
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>>154994616
Should we be posting Hoy?
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>>154994616
>>154994720
Pretty sure it says Shit Megami Tensei

>>154994710
How are you so wrong
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>>154994710
See
>>154993121
The OP didn't do a good job.

>>154994776
>Should we be posting Hoy?
Yes.
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>>154994784

>>154992786
>/hoy/ 真・女神転生/ Shit Posting General
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>>154994928
nice me.me my friend
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>>154994975
Tell that to the OP.
And post hoy.
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I've been waiting for this.
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>>154995058
I'm going to massacre OP
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>>154993478
ISocial Justice strikes afain!
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Wait a minute

>isabeau likes reading about joan of arc.

Glad that abrahamic shit now counts as neutral as long as its a human.
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>>154995131
No, she reads gay porn comics
The degenerate slut
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>>154995096
Just sit back and enjoy the ride. The thread will normalize soon anyway.
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I've been playing Strange Journey, and I'm currently 27 hours in at the Eridanus sector.

How much of the game is left and will I be able to beat it before Final officially releases?
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>>154995303
>at Eridanus sector
Good luck anon. You're gonna need it.
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>>154995303
>tfw 27 hours into 4A already
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>>154995263
Considering it's literally named "Shit Posting General," I sincerely doubt that.
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>>154995131
List of neutral characters:

gotou
johnathan
walter
law hero
metatron
zayin
gimmel
half of lucifer
joan of arc
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So, some of you guys got your copies already?
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>>154995303
There are 3 more sectors after Eridanus and they take longer and have harder bosses, so I'd say when you finish Eridanus you're halfway done.
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>>154995396
There is literally nothing wrong with shitposting.

>>154995303
Probably like 30 hours.
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Hows the dub for smt4a? i dont personally like them but if theyre not horrible ill just listen to it. or should i just get that undub
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>>154995621
dagda is 10/10
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>>154995418
List of characters worth a hoy:
Hoyboy
Hoyboy
Hoyboy
Hoyboy
Hoyboy
Dagda
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Can someone re-upload Final's OST? Or even throw me a working link, I've searched and found nothing but dead links to mega.
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>>154995586
>There is literally nothing wrong with shitposting.
I never said otherwise.
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>>154995727
really? why?
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>>154995829
In all seriousness, give it time. People will get bored.
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>>154995852
He actually sounds funny and irish.
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>>154995852
Him actually Irish a major reason. At least for me.
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Grabbed the .CIA from the 3DSISO forums. Anyone else having the audio randomly cut at times and then pick up again?
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>>154997327

UPDATE: I think it may have been related to the SD card. System hung, I restarted it and it wouldn't turn on. Removed the SD card and placed it back in. Seems fine for now.
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>>154997327
>>154997489
are you using the normal version?
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>>154997612

I believe so. The USA Region Free version, right?
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>>154995740
you're not missing any good songs.
#bringmeguroback
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I am in a SMT mood and I'm going to replay IV, should I carry over a finished save or start from scratch?
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>>154998326
yes
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This is by far the worst general on /vg/
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>>154999685
Well don't blame me. I tried to save it two years ago by seamlessly integrating gay porn into the posts.
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>>154999685
No that would be the Etrian Odyssey General.
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>>154999685
>Not katawa shojou general
Pfft

>>154999731
Well memed my friend
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>>154999930
>katawa shojou general
All that we're missing is some tripfaggots, then it'll be exactly the same.
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>>154999979
Shirley you can't be serious
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>>155000000
Don't mind me anons; just checking.
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>>155000205
What differences are you seeing? Both are filled with memes and shitposting, with little discussion of the actual game(s).
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>>155000535
Nigga the last thread was literally 90% about the games this thread is just a shit because the OP made a garbage opening post and a new game is coming out which means we get new posters some of who are garbage

kill yourself my man if you hate it here so badly
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Why do my partymates keep stealing my turn in SMT IV. I've seriously wiped because of hoyman
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>>155000712
suck my dick fuccboi
enjoy your shithole
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Is there any penalty for dying in apoc? Dagda doesn't ask me for money like Charon did.
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>>155001007
maybe you should go rant in /pg/, where they enjoy being cucked
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>>154993360
Aww man, people usually don't just >spoilers, they type a little bit more so you can tell you're going to read a spoiler before you actually do it.
Not in this case.
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>>155001091
Hello /v/
You need to go back
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>>155001091
Anon, I know it helps you dampen the tears at night to project, but persona is a more mainstream game now. Its chads who are playing it, and you are the one being cucked while playing a weeb autist DnD based game that lets you have sex with children because the makers know that its inevitably where failures of life turn their attention.
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>>154995390
28 here, high-five anon.
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>>155001141
>>155001235
The bait is out in full force tonight from mad personiggers
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>>155001287
No, lol. We don't even like persona. We're just letting you know that its incredibly obvious that you're just taking your frustration out on us because you've never had sex.
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do i get any other permanent partners aside from asahi and navarre?
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When is this new hype posting going to go away. I liked it better when we were constantly on the verge of dying.

>>155001345
Speak for yourself. People can like both series.
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>>155001345
This is some seriously weak bait man, you're not even trying

>>155001386
Agreed desu senpai, was way more comfy
The game's not even technically out and we've already got twice the shitposters
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>>155001386
>its better when there's no posts
>angry as fuck autist

What a surprise.
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>>155001438
you sound mad shitpost-kun
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>>155001481
Anon, that's 100% of posters on smtg.
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>>155001438
>>angry as fuck autist
Who said I was angry?
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>>155001521
>shitposter attempts to camouflage himself
You sound more suited for butthurt general
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Morning /hoy/

Have you had your coffhee yet? Also,where the fuck is Prometheus for the "Defeat Demon in Ginza" Challenge Quest? I swear this is the third time I scour the Downtown location and I can't find him for the life of me. First time I'm "stuck" too.
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>>155001562
Your actions did.
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>>155001612
Anon you can't "act" on a BBS board you silly autistic friend
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>>155001652
>I'm not mad. No one knows what I was secretly thinking despite me getting btfo.

That's you. Its just getting ridiculous at this point.
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>>155001705
Damn son calm down it's just an image board
You better sleep before you get any more steamy
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>>155001705
>>155001759
Shut up and go play any smt.
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>>155001759
>hue if i accuse someone else of being mad when im mad it means im not mad.

Dig your hole deeper.
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>>155001787
But it's 4am

>>155001814
Damn son, calm down, I didn't know SMTG was so irritating to you
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>>155001835
4am is a good time to play americanon. Trust me, Just 5 hours ago I was doing so.
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>>155001835
>>155001864
This
The entire game takes place at night
If you're not playing it while it's dark and cold you're doing it wrong
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>>155001064
that's what i wonder too. seems too casual to be true, but i guess we can just resurrect and continue from where we died, without any fucking penalty.
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>>155001835
please, just cease your butthurt. Its not that big a deal.
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>>155001864
But, I went to bed at like, 3:30 the night before and like, 4 the day before. I need to get some actual sleep.
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>>155001913
Oh shit an MS paint comic, damn son calm down
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>>155001917
You still have sunday to sleep properly and fix your schedule before monday.
After 5 years I finally started night classes to finish up school. I'm gonna have a bad time waking up on monday. Sorry for blog.
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>>155002003
It actually takes about 5-7 days to fix your sleep schedule up. It's pretty rough.

>>155001913
Calm down, man.
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>>155002060
>It actually takes about 5-7 days to fix your sleep schedule
I have made a horrible mistake
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>>155002120
Yeah, so better start hitting it about 1-2 hours earlier every night until you're back to around 10-11pm.
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>>155002171
I'll try. It's not like I don't want to sleep, I'm just way more active at night and can't fall asleep until morning. But heh.

Also,>>155001606
>DOWNtown Ginza
>been searching for him in MIDtown, the place with Tenkai
One would assume the japanese names would be the confusing ones
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>>154992786
do i get to brutally murder asahi?
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>>155002558
Nope. She's the only team member who doesn't directly fight you on massacre.
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>>155002558
Pascal is loyal! LOYAL!
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>Asahi keeps sending messages
>even though she's, I assume at least, always near enough to you to just talk instead of sending a text message
Does she have autism?
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Asahi's earrings trigger me.
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>>155003079
To be fair, if you lived somewhere where you could literally die if you go outside, you'd probably get heavily in the habit of texting people even who were nearby, since even being two rooms over is something that could make you anxious to walk alone.

>>155003131
Me too actually. Its one of a few flaws with her appearance.
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>no posts in hours.

Great job shitposters. You killed the general.
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Where's Yaesu Passage? Trying to complete the slay Black Frost quest but I can't find this place
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So how are ya'll enjoying P5's OST? It fits with the theme well but I'm finding the tracks pretty lackluster.
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Is Critical Wave the most broken skill in SMT4?
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>>155005467
Woooow, I'm straight up blind
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>>155005708
is there a full ost somewhere?
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>>155007064
Don't have a full one, just this one for now https://mega.nz/#!M9wAESCR!2XmwkUgyScvHM3WrkpOZb0fEmBkO-8hCQwbDGdedbfY
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I have to play smt 4a without music becuase its too catchy and gets stuck in my head
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>>155007334
i'll give it a listen
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>>154995893
>>154995829
>>154995734
>>154995586
>>154995396
I'm waiting for more hoy
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>>155007334
- i rarely like lyrics so i can't say enjoyed those songs.
- the theme of p5 is some kind of detective masquerade something, right? if so, most of these songs fit the theme just as you said.
- most of these songs sounded like backing tracks with no clear melody if you know what i mean. easy to listen to but i wouldn't concentrate on just listening to the songs. more like put this music on background while doing something else.
- from all the instrumental songs, i couldn't find anything totally shit, but nothing too amazing either. hopefully the full ost has some really good tunes.

shoji meguro > composers of smt4
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>>155008584
lol
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>>155008584
That's how I feel completely. It's a decent enough OST but I can't really find that it stands out compared to all the previous game that Shoji Meguro has worked on.

It's like how you go an elevator or be in a lobby somewhere and it's plays a nice lil tune and you're just all "Hmm nice" then you move on and it never really stands out. You forget about it entirely.

Maybe this cd is just a bad selection of the BGM and hopefully the full ost is more memorable.
Music really makes or breaks a game for me is why I'm pretty strung up on it at the moment and Shoji Meguro always makes amazing music. Hell he even made a MMO have freaking amazing music.
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>>154992786
When will DLCs release?
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>>155008803
>Music really makes or breaks a game for me
almost for me too. i would have loved to hear and experience smt4 with meguro in charge of the music. i don't know how to explain it correctly but he just has this nice, clean sound in his songs and the songs "stay relevant" for the entire time, whereas some of smt4's music just go fucking stupid in middle of the track. might be a bad example but i really don't like the melody of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OPm3dVPIcE. i totally get that it's supposed to be a light hearted song and all that shit but that 30 seconds it's like some kind of children's tv show intro is playing. then there's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tETYKtOKk04 which just sounds good overall. fuck. rant over. probably won't make a lot of sense but oh well.
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>>155000908
wew

someone channels his DLC Steven
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>>155009339
While I do like some of SMT4's tracks, I do agree with you. SMT IV has a huge identity issue and can't decide what type of genre/theme it wants to stick with when it comes to the music. This is suppose to be a grim world where the people of Tokyo are all but abandoned. People struggling to just find simple things like water without some fukboi demon coming in to fuck their day up and the music doesn't reflect that. Meguru is the best at conveying the full story just with his music alone.
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>>155008584
>>155008803
>>155009339
>>155009658
>Megurofags
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>>155008803
>Maybe this cd is just a bad selection of the BGM and hopefully the full ost is more memorable
The full ost was data mined by pg/ a few days ago and it's shit. That is truly the best selection of tracks.
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>>155009945
oh fuck me then. It still looks a great game regardless.
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>>155009975
like a*
oops
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Meguro is a hack Nocturne was his only good work
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>>155009658
so i'm not just imagining things. thank god. thank you dude man.
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>>155010310

>not DDS
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>>155010603
DDS ost is made of Nocturne b-sides much like 90% of Raidou's tracks were unused P3 songs
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Sun God who killed the boss in Apocalypse is weak to Dark. Currently at the part where you have to close the jars, but stopped because of work. Will try to haul and grind tomorrow to meet the Inanna
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>>155010310
while i agree nocturne is easily his best one, i wouldn't call him a hack. he did plenty of good music in other games too.
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>>154992786
i feel so empty inside now that i beat king frost

i got raped the first time but then i revised my team and i steamrolled him
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>>155009658
The people are trying to make things as close to "normal"' as possible. I forget what its called but even in the most bad of situations people try to set things to how they're used too. Music will reflect this as well.

It's why I'm not surprised by Kinshicho having the most upbeat as it's the most well protected and sheltered area and Nanashis home. I mean we have fucking shota npcs wearing capes and pots in the hallways. Most kids were in groups if they weren't with other kids.

Ikebukuro was the weirdest as there a unique boy npc sprite on Neutral amonst the Champion fans.
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anyone else having trouble falling asleep at night? why can't the 20th come sooner :(
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>>155012538
im heavily medicated and i still have trouble

just get cfw and pirate it and enjoy it

if you've got it preordered or something just leave it on your shelf so you have a nice pristine mint condition copy
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>>155012683
I have 11.0 :(
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>>155012897
im pretty sure you can still downgrade if you perform a hardmod which involves soldering a few wires
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>金子一馬画集 IV
is he alive
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>>155012947
Yeah I've read how to do it, it sounds way to complicated for me. I'd rather just wait a few more days then risk breaking my 3ds
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EU WHEN
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>>155008690
What's this about?
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>>155012538
i feel sorry for you bro. stay strong.
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>>155013206
P5
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>>155013203
two days ago ;)
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>>155014549
what
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>>154980341
>>154980552
>He could probably solo YHVH, with a bit of luck.
Let me guess, you either played it on easy or normal?
The YHVH fight in Dagda's route was more difficult because you had no OP friendship magic and less turns with your second party.
Satan being strong doesn't change much considering how YHVH hits on hard.
The amount of turns is more important than Satan's abilities.
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Since the leaked version is region-free and thus will almost definitely not be compatible with DLC, will we be able to use JKSM to copy the save into a non-region-free copy?
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>King Frost
>ez I'll just spam agi-
>proceed to get fucking destroyed because lmao auto smirk

FUCK
Literally how?
Is there a ice-immune demon nearby to use?
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>>155016443
Theres a move to remove smirk now, Angel has it and Im sure theres others at that level
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>>155016443
>>155017273
Spriggan also has it. Otherwise just max up your assist gauge before battle and get ready to exploit some weaknesses in two turns before he can move.
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Anybody know when Demon Skill+2 gets unlocked? Currently level 18 and fusing demons with limited spaces is annoying
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>>155016443
Use magic mirror.

Back to things that matters. 50 lvl, still no Skill expand +3, how the fuck do I get it?
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>>155017465
25 and +3 at 50
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>>155018078
What? I got it as soon as I leveled up.
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How the fuck am I supposed to repel shesha in the first repel shesha mission?
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>>155018748
Did you try?
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>>155018748
Hold out until Adramelech and Power show up to help you.
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>>155018881
>>155019020
Yeah beat the cunt, was on my first try so I panicked lel
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>>155019085
Relax bby. Apocalypse is easy.
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>>155019085
Second Shesha battle is hard cause only Nanashi can harm it with Excalibur
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>>154992786
Rude.
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>>155019245
Can we please put spoiler tags around spoilers?
C'monnnnnnn
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>>155019245
Gaston deals decent damage. It's not really hard per say it doesn't do much to be honest.
Now, I'm not there yet but I'm guessing there will be a third one.

>>155019368
I agree.
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>>155019487
I was showing some demons to a friend who never played smt and he said Strigoii was dabbing.
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>>155019487
HOY_ YOU
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>That look... That's the same look the last little bastard gave me!
hhhhehehe
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>>155018441
Thanks anon
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is str still a meme in apoc?
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>tfw found the last volume of her manga
Feels good guys.
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>>155020313
Demon negotiations referring Flynn? Nice.

>>155020443
STR now improves sword skills and basic attacks while DEX focuses only on guns like it should be. All 3 builds are viable, have fun.
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>>155020498
>tfw putting all my points into luck in smt4a
no ragrets
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>>155020858
My apologies anon. Meant to say all 4 builds are viable.
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>>155021071
Don't suppose you have a maze garden guide do you?
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What the fuck is up with King Frost? Am I supposed to take his smirk away? Why is there a skill that smirks you? No way I can get an ice nulling demon this early.
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>>155021168
Maze garden? The fairy forest one?
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>>155021310
Yeah
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>>155021276
>>155017273
>>155017463

>>155021357
Three times to the opposite side that your shadow is pointing to, once in the direction of your shadow.
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>>155021412
Thanks
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Oh, a hunter.
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>>155022305
Make sure you bring more MACCA next time.
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>>155022927
>tfw I miss the old npc dialogue with voices

I miss Burroughs too
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From the pastebin about Digital Devil Saga:

>Make sure to get Mutual Karma as soon as possible.
>Don't bother learning skills for party members you are not planning to use.

Alright, which one is it?
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>>155023086
I think we all do.
>you'll never see that bartender alive again
He is alive somewhere at least, right?
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>>155023086
npc dialogues still voiced tho.
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>>155023086
>I miss Burroughs too
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>>155023086
I'll appraise those for you~
is gone
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>Bufu now won't freeze shit
>Zio now won't stun
>'B-but hey guys! Zan still can BTFO your demons away!!'
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Any good SMT 3ds or vita themes?
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>>155023687
I thought Apocalypse was supposed to be good?
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>>155023286
>use a terminal
>get some shitty voice telling me where I am
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>>155023870
Its good. Its just casualized in a strange way.
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>>155024129
No more casual than normal SMT
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>>155001903
It's just like SMT4 where you'd just reload your save anyway.
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I just started playing Final and I want to do a phys build, but I heard that you can't dump everything in dex anymore so what would be the best stat distribution for a phys build?
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>>155024674
STR or DEX. Just depends on if you want sword attacks or gun.

If it's like 4, the "Low Acc/High Crit" and phys hit all spells were easier to get for melee rather than gun, so STR might be the better play if that balance holds.

SMT is easy though, it doesn't matter THAT much.
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>>155024897
Did they changed it so STR isn't the most useless piece of shit stat?
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>>155025007
DEX scales on gun attacks. STR scales on phys attacks. It's LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THAT POS SMT4
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>>155025007
The Str stat was fixed. It now boosts physical attacks and physical skills while Dex boosts gun attacks and gun skills.
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>>155023086
>new NPCs have exactly the same dialogue from the same characters
>it's only worse now
What the hell?

>>155023240
Mutual Karma earns exp for the whole party, to prevent funny situations later on. Just don't bother gaining other skills for non-mainstay party members
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Anyone get the Black Card yet?
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>>155025132
>>155025151
Is there a way so auto-battles use my gun instead of sword?
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>>155025151
>>155025132
>>155024897
So what would be best 2dex 2str and 1agi/lu?
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>>155025453
You only get one attack a turn. Just pic STR or DEX.
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>>155025453
I prefer guns because they are much more versatile so I alternate between
>1 dex
>1 agi
>3 luck
And
>2 dex
>1 agi
>2 luck
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Anyone know where the Joto region is on the world map?
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>>155023761
3DS has the free SMTIVA theme that came out yesterday. Also has DeSu2RB and PQ themes. Vita has a P4DAN theme.
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>>154994039
still no answers. i just found toki. what's the thing with her? gore? vaginas?
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>>155027430
she canonically wants your babies.
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Is there a reason (other than jewery) why Apocalypse is $50 instead of $40?
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>>155026226
Next to Kanto
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>>155027674
Atlus tax
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>>155027674
It made sense with EO2U as EO2U was $10 bux better than other RPGs. SMT4A, it's a rehash of a middling game.
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>>155027485
why would that be worth censoring?
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>>155028518
She's possessed by Inanna and gets really lewd for a 14 year old
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>>155027861
This, Persona Q was 50 dollars too, don't remember if other Atlus games started at that price but I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>155028036
>Grimoire Odyssey 2
>Good

Get out of here, Casualry scum.
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>>155029010
Mad shitter confirmed.
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>>155028587
can't wait!
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Someone please post the Style Savvy rare hoy.
I forgot to save it like last time.
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>>155029489
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>>155008428
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>>155029530
Hoy, thank you!
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>>155029232
>2016
>Like shitty JRPGs
>Go into /smtg/ general
>With my shit tastes I annouce how much I prefer garbage games over MegaTen
>Someone calls me out on it
>I scramble for damage control and retort that THEY have shit tastes
>FBI busts down my door for owning CP
>Tell them I have none
>They spot my copy of Untold 2
>I'm serving 20 without parole

FUCKING MEGATEN FANS
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>>155029837
Hoylways a pleasure to help a fellow hoyboy
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Return of the Hoy
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>>155029982
>Megaten
>not shit
Still I loled. 5 star post.
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>>155029831
yes I require all the hoy
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>>155030140
>Caring about a pedophile's opinion

Go fuck a kid or whatever it is you and that Subway guy do for fun.
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I think I heard some Hoy in the opening movie for Final
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How do I get rid of a whispered skill I don't want anymore?
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>>155030519
You replace it with something else?
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>>155030519
DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS
>>
So exactly when do I encounter the question that will determine the ending that I'll get? Currently on Camp Ichigaya, already defeated Belial and Lucifuge.
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>>155030519
Overwrite with new skill.

>>155030324
>I have to make actual choices on my skill growth
>Combat is more than just spamming buffs and weaknesses
>Why do I have to listen to this guy give me orders? He's setting rules just like a god I hate him I wanna kill him
>This game is stupid and only for pedos
Stay mad shitter.
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>Tokyo Millenium 20XX
>not stacking all Fusion Boosters as early as possible
It's almost as if you don't want to be a true Godslayer
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>>155030790
What do the fusion boosters do in SMT4A? I only remember weak looking boosters in 4.
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>>155030934
It """"""""""""""only""""""""""" lets you fuse demons up to 9 levels higher than Cuntboy, and that's at Fusion Booster 5, not sure if it goes higher.
Not sure if there's higher than that, it goes from 1>2>4>6>9 levels higher. There is no better App line to dump points into early.
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>>155031253
It goes up to Fusion Booster X (after 7) which removes the level limit entirely
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>>155031398
I'm guessing X is new game+ only
Regardless up to 7 is already like 15 levels or something which is literally retarded
Fusion Booster removes any semblance of challenge from the game
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>>155031253
There weren't very many places in 4 where it felt like I really wanted higher level demons than me, except, of course, dealing with Smirkcow, but the levels wouldn't have changed as much as the added functionality of more demons to work with.

Plus fusion level curves were pretty rocky in SMT4 compared to stuff like DeSu.

>>155030790
>just realize Tokyo Milennium is the fashion show in TMS#FE
ATLUS PLS
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>>155030496
does atlus know about the greatness of hoy?
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>>155031683
Probably.
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>>155031478
Pretty sure you can get it on the first run of Apocalypse/Final don't remember how it was in SMT4 though.
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Mara is such a little shit in Apocalypse.
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>>155031556
>There weren't very many places in 4 where it felt like I really wanted higher level demons than me, except, of course, dealing with Smirkcow, but the levels wouldn't have changed as much as the added functionality of more demons to work with
Well it's a very nice in Apocalypse
Having higher level demons mean they take less damage, have better stats from lesser levels, better skills (like Media and shit), especially when the difference is as blatant as 9-15 and this is early in Apocalypse.
Not to mention resistances which pretty much make the battle system, and on Apocalypse the Nulls, Repels and Drains only tend to come pretty late, Null for example at 30+
Also the sooner you get higher fusion the sooner you can get the overpowered demons classic to the series
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Tell me anon do we get a hoy in apocalyps
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>>155031896
>Spot ghost on there
Reminder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8iy8eZjkeg
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>download the SMT IV Apocalypse theme for free
>it's actually good looking and has the baller main theme song as BGM
Nice.
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>>155032129
>3:37
Did her turn into a tornado?
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>>155032152
Where can you download it except for the eshop?
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>>155032814
Dropped his microphone. I think. That or Daddy unlocked his ultimate power.
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>>155032879
As far as I know, you can only access the theme shop from the themes tab and screen configuration of your 3DS' menu, you cannot access it from the e-shop.

And it's pretty funny that the only themes for free are the Sanic Boom and now this one, both from SEGA.
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>>154994368
>or play the part of damsels in distress
yeah like isabeau who spends the entire game trying to rescue flynn

???????????????????????????
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>>155032879
Anon. It's free. There's literally no reason to be a piratefag, since it wouldn't even be pirating.
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>here let me allow this demon army to gangrape and kidnap me just because they said they would kill this random girl otherwise
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>>155033308
>Tokyo's ray of hope
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>>155033253
I need to piratefag it because I dutch and I will probably die of old age, before it comes out digital only in the EU unless I can get it on the EU e-shop for some reason.
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>>155033473
Understandable. Yurocucks tend to get the short end of the stick.
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>>155033438
A hero and a real human bean.
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>>154992981
He is pretty cute
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>>155033865
Thanks for being so understanding, but can I get that theme somewhere or am I fucked and have to wait untill they finally decide to release the game in the EU?
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>>155034807
You're fucked m8
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>>155034894
Welp sucks to be me then.
Thank you for answering me.
>>
Will the english dub do the shift in Nanashi's voice tone if he goes massacre? Has anyone gotten to that point yet?
>>
Just curious about 2 things. I'm currently at the part where Asahi gets grabbed by that fucking smug Pepe looking demon and it gives the option to attack or not. Does this kill Asahi if I attack?

Also Does anyone happen to have the USA dlc files yet? I seriously doubt it, but the insane costs and restrictions this time on the app points is outrageous.
>>
>>155030790
I didn't really feel the need to buy it.
it's hundreds of points that are better spent on something you won't get to in a few hours while progressing the story.

It's literally mobage tier powerup
>>
>>155030790

As a level 25 character, having more than 4 skill slots seemed pretty fucking important.
>>
>>155038910
Asahi dies no matter what. It's like when Akira was never able to save his sister.
>>
Is Demikids the HARDEST SMT game of all time?
>>
>>155040070
hardest and best
>>
wich demon wud u fug
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>>155040779
Alice
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Anyone know where to get a Jack Ripper? I need one for the King Frost fusion.
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>>155040779
Mermaid
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>>155040779
>

>>155041062
Not sure but I think it's in the world map near ueno/kinshicho
>>
How is War difficulty?
>>
>>155033473
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn7t87ddss4wbag/
See if this works.
>>
>ambushed by Medusa with zero warning at all

Fuck off.
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>>155040779
Demonee-ho.
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>>155040779
Hee hoy
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>>155042580
>He went into the Sky Tower, knowing Medusa was in the game not expecting to fight it
>He was inside a room when he heard a loud bang outside and didn't think he should save before leaving said room
>he lost to Medusa

No hard feelings but did you not see it coming? Good luck, I guess.
>>
Anyone know what to do in Chaos Realm?
I beat up Belial and got his charm, but it's not enough to break the barrier and there doesn't seem to be any other bosses to fight in the Chaos Realm.
>>
>>155040779
Hathor is a demonfu to end all demonfus.

Best Megami.
>>
>>155043345
I figured Medusa would be either on the way up or the way down, not out of fucking nowhere with no prompting after entering a room.

Also you can't save before you leave the room. You enter, find the sensor, and are immediately kicked out to the boss fight.
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>>155043680
>Also you can't save before you leave the room
My bad then but, to be fair, they do tell you "You might find the parts you're looking for in this room.. Will you proceed?" similar to how they warn you before you go through a door with a boss or a domain. But yeah, I see what you mean.
>>
>>155043831
I thought looking for the parts would be one of those dumb "You entered the room but didn't find anything" bits that they do to pad out time in quests.
>>
>>155043680
This is Medusa we're talking about. Bitch is weak to force attacks, which is what your Flynn should have learned at least 2 of.
>>
>>155043919
I can see that happening.

>>155043924
He means on Apocalypse anon.
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>just got to smug Flynn

Oh shit
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>>155041953
It worked, thanks anon your the fucking best you know that.
You have no idea how much I appreciate your help dude.
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If anything the best part about Medusa was the sudden return of Battle B2 as the track. Love that fucking song.
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>>155044046
No spoilers please, I should be getting close as well!
>>
>Asahi's dad bleeds out and dies
>Even though I have several items and demons capable of healing a dead person back to full
>>
>>155044976
The demons wouldn't give a shit

Why else do none of them heal you when you die?
>>
>asked if I want to let Hallelujah come along
>"no fuck off you spy"
>Pascal keeps pleading and I wind up taking him anyway

FUCK OFF ASHURA-KAI SPY SCUM

Dagda was right, just nuke the whole fucking universe and make one where my decisions actually matter.
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>>155044204
Why you spoil for me
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>>155045091
Now you understand SMT4 law end
>>
>>155045212
It's not a spoiler, the game outright shows you he's just there to spy on you within maybe the first 10 to 15 minutes of you meeting him.
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>>155045212
I wanna fuck that frost.
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>>155045320
delet this
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>>155044046
Could you then post the 2 dialogue options that you get when Lucifer asks you "what do you desire" or something like that? I would be really interested to know how they translated those.
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>>155041118
Too bard the Mermaid that actually got in is fucking PIG DISGUSTING compared to the other versions
Atrocious
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>>155046057
>There was a version with no bra
So Mara is allowed, but not this?
REEEEEEEE
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How's the game piratefags?

Is War difficult?
>>
>>155046452
>slurp slurp slurp :))))))))))))

I miss this shitpost.
>>
>>155046876
I don't to be quite honest famicom
>>
>>154992786
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET OUT OF THIS FUCKING DUNGEON REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

game literally just went from 10/10 to 0/10, fuck tsukiji konganji
>>
>>155046452
>Everything in that image
The white were right
>>
>>155047028
Are you in the part where there's teleporting doors and seemingly nowhere to go? You should've gotten a key recently that will open a door elsewhere. I got stuck there too for a bit.
>>
>>155047270
yes and elevators and theres doors that used to go back to the exit that are now shut down
>>
>>155047263
That was like almost 2 years ago
>>
In smt4A the hunter guys have told me to go tsuki kimongi but I can't get in, says I need to ask people in the town if they know a way in
Where do I go to ask?
>>
>>155047849
Explore Ginza.
>>
>>155047925
Thanks
Tried there all ready but I guess I missed somethin
>>
So what did you guys think of Nanashi's death scene? Did it live up to the hype?
>>
>>155048113
why would you spoil this
>>
>>155040779
Inanna
>>
>>155045907
Sure

>What is it you wish to do with so much power?
What is it you seek beyond the scope of this battle?

"A peaceful life with my friends"
"A sublime world with no ambiguity
"Say nothing"


btw if I choose the first option am I stuck in the Persona route?
>>
Beat IV with 3 days to spare. The 20th can't come soon enough.
>>
>>155032152
I still don't believe this is a dude.
>>
>>155048413
>btw if I choose the first option am I stuck in the Persona route?
_________no_____
>>
>>155048413
Hmm, thanks.
>>
The killer in twin peaks is the victim's (laura palmer) Dad
This is /spoiler/ general right?
When you post spoilers about a game that hasn't even officially come out yet in English?
>>
>>155048891
no that's /pg/
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>>155048891
Fuck off
>>
>>155048226
Laughed.
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>that Maruology questline
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Is this true?
i was so excited about it......
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>>155049952
yes it truly is sexist filth with no diversity or strong female characters or trans people of disabled colors, cancel your preorder ASAP
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>>155048226
It's literally in all the trailers.
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>>155049952
>plot is hard to follow
>sexist

Gender Studies sophomore confirmed.
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Still can't figure out how to get into tkusk kingo or w/e lads
I went to ginza and a cutscene happened with those red guys but I can't remember what they said ;;
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>>155050445
Near the Masakado rock there are other ways you can go. Search around for 2 old women called Kei and Mii or something like that. You'll have to cross the poison tunnel.
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how are you guys playing apocalypse already?
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god damn it idk which girl i like better toki or asahi
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>>155051213
We sailed the seven seas and robbed Atlus ship.
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>>155051043
Oh i'm in the poison tunnel now? Do I go through it to find them or find them first before I go in?
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>>155049952
>Waaah, it's so sexist
>I know nothing about mythology or lore give me clickbait views
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>>155051270
this is just a dumb way of asking where'd you get the cia
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>>155051213
CFW 3ds
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>>155051284
Go to the end of the tunnel, that's where they are.
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>>155051213
game leaked early
if you have a hacked 3ds you can download it
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>>155051213
The local game store near me always gives me my copy a few days to a week ahead if I ask. It's run by an old couple and they're really nice about it. I'm about 2 days into 4A and it's phenominal.
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>>155051213
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What level 30 beast do I need to unlock Kunitsu?
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Is there a fusion table for SMT:IV Final/Apo yet? The SMT IV table kind of works, but also kind of doesn't
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>playing apocalypse
>hears for the first time how YHVH name is pronounced
>closes the 3ds and starts laughing my ass off

fuck Odin you got a bad radio frequency
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>>155051213
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>>155052667
ya veh
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>>155052709
are you rushing through the game or what? I have more hours but level 50
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>>155049952
Aside from the obvious things, what bothers me is:
>Nekomata is the most sfw demon
It's hard to believe when ladies like pic related have very classy and good looking designs

>plot is hard to follow for newcomers and fans alike
How would this person know? You can either be one or the other.
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>>155052889
Blame me playing the Japanese version for that, right now I'm just clearing up the challenge quests.
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>>155051213
I downloaded a rad Devil Summoning Program that I got from an email.
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>>155052667
I got on that part yesterday and got really confused. Do they "censor" its name on the Japanese version too?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af9pTcq5uSo

USE HEAD
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Mokoi sounds cute
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>>154992786
>fINAL is better than P4 2.0
WHO COULD GUESS THAT?
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>>155053449
Yeah, it distortion of YHVH being mentioned happens in the Japanese version too. It makes sense, since from I heard in the Hebrew lore, mentioning YHVH's name itself is forbidden.
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>>155052945
>>plot is hard to follow for newcomers and fans alike

I BARELY paid attention to SMT IVs story but am following 4A very well. maybe its cause the characters dont suck as much

>those smt IV haricuts
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>>155053557
I keep telling my weeb friends that apocalypse is persona 4 with the massacre option
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>playing apocalypse
>breaking those pots in the temples
>3 boss battles in a row
>the third is maitreya
>already took me several tries to get this far
HELP
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>>155053637
>>those smt IV haricuts
>not liking our lord and savior hoyboy
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>>155054341
jonathan is the worst, flynn is bad and isabeau isnt that good either
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>>155052979
Would you happen to know when/where I can get a sword or bullets with % insta kill chance in 4A? i liked those weapons in 4
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>>155054619
Isabeau is a monkey and there's nothing wrong with Jonathan's jewfro.
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>>155054754
>Isabeau is a monkey
I never got this joke, why do people call her a monkey again?
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>>155054619
Really? I always thought Jonathan's hair was cute desu, it makes him look fluffy.
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>>155054619
Honestly, shitposting aside, I hated Flynn's design so much I held off on purchasing SMTIV. When I heard all the negative shit surrounding IV, that gave me no reason to buy it.
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>>155054817
Ears.

Hikaru, Nozomi, Toki, and Pascal are all cuter.
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>>155054817
>Isabeau
>pronounced Is-a-bo
>smtg nickname for her is bobo
>bobo sounds like a monkey's name

I think that's why.
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>>155054748
There might be a couple, but idk if they're NG+ only or not. Gonna check the Member's Club if they have one.
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>>155054748
You get the headhunter from the Hunter's Association after doing a couple of quests. I've been doing all the challenge quests and sometimes you get to pick a gift between two. It's 67 power x1~6 hits hit%: low with instant kill
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>>155055712
shit, i picked the other one
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>>155055787
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Hoy make sure to enter DDS every two hours for some goodies.
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>>155049952
Its approved by Metacritic m9.
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>>155056068
>tfw japanese 3ds and dont know where to activate streetpass
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This game became really easy once I put Tetrakarn on Nanashi.
The last two bosses just killed themselves.
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>enemy literally spawns right under me
>horde
>Does an attack all skill
>Gets a crit
>Smirks
>Does another one
>I wipe

Not even mad they made Dagda just straight up revive you if you die
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How do I get a black card in Apocalypse
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Does Hallelujah really only learn 3 skills? He seems kind of useless compared to my other partners.
>>
H-How do you guys have Apcoalypse already? I'm jealous and I wanna play!
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>>155056939
He learns much better skills after a certain (spoilery) point in the story.
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>>155057259
Hacked 3ds and leaked rom/cia
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>>155056939
He gets more after a point in the story.
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>>155057339
>>155057425
Okay, when I first saw he only had 3 skills I thought he wouldn't stick around for very long.
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>>155057391
HMPH
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>>155048768
How do they compare to the original JP text?
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Can someone tell me where I can get a Jack Frost and Tam Lin. I'm trying to fuse a Frost Ace
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>>155032129
I never heard of this man.
>I BROKE MY FAVORITE BELT
This is fucking great.
What a fucking legend.
I'm genuinely laughing
>>
where the fuck do I go to activate streetpass
>>
>Flynn is voice by 'Do you get to the Cloud District very often?' guy

AAAAAHHH

I HEAR IT EVERY TIME HE SPEAKS

WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
>>
Is there really no better way of recruiting demons in Apocalyse other than crappy Scout?
Even with that app to make demons friendlier it's still a pain
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>>155058012
Tam Lin: Yoyogi Fairy Forest
Jack Frost: Shinjuku
You can also just use the Fusion Search with Compendium turned on and Fairy/Genma race to see easy ways of making them you know
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>>155058801
The way Daddy Ghost shills his social media right after always gets me.
>YOU MAY THINK YOU'RE STRONGER BUT MY NUTS HANG MUCH LONGERRRRRR
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>>155059949
Can I still get Tam Lin after the forest is destroyed
>>
SULLIES THE WORLD
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>>155060096
I dunno, just use the fusion search and select either Tam Lim or Gemna Race with compendium also checked
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>>155060209
FILTH
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>>155060209
UNCLEAN
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Is there an easier skill to recruit demons other than Scout
Getting rather tedious to negotiate a ton of times because of the retarded War compedium prices
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>>155061134
>Is there an easier skill to recruit demons other than Scout
>retarded War compendium prices

Yes.
Don't play War difficulty.
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>playing SJ
>get to ouroboros and beat her first try
>wow you guys really meme'd up this boss, it wasn't that bad at all
>loljk she's not dead
>mfw round two
Just mahama my shit up fampai.
>>
Does Luck actually matters in IV/Final or it still just fucking placebo
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>>155061839
it better not be since my stats are 43/39/38/56/370
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>>155061839
It matters. One anon actually made it his main build and seemed to be doing fine.
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is it a bad idea to have everything balanced and not putting points into dx?
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>>155062127
Yes. Luck is the only stat that matters.
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>>155059819
yeah it's kind of a pain at first, I went for Scout+ immediately and that alleviated most of my problems with negotiations
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>>155061992
I'm wondering because on my run I decided to abandon I had like 150 MAG and didn't notice that much of a spell damage increase compared to my demons who had less than half that amount so I might as well dump some in LCK and AGI
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>>155062221
Do it offbyone-kun. May the luck of the Irish guide your way.
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DDS DOESNT WORK ON A JAPANESE N3DS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>155061992
my build right now in 4A is
29
144
27
82
195
level 64

I only add enough agi to be 1st/2nd with my demons and aim for crits with gun skills
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>>154993259
>implying Krishna isn't aryan master race
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>>155062525
Get the DLC goyim.
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>>155062195
should i stop leveling everything except magic and luck?
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Sup hoys how do i get "X" ending ( aiming for the neutral anarchy or peace ending ) in smt iv apocalypse?.

Is it still the same as its predecessor where i have to follow some random choices ( if that is so is there a guide or something )?.

Now about the build a mag/luck oriented MC would be good ?. What about agi ( i read that it is hard to find incences for this ) would it be better to go for a mag/agi MC?.
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>>155062643
And what exactly do you experience with that high Luck
I'm not even sure if there's any point since I only use spells that won't crit outside of smirk anyways
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>>155062725
only level luck from the start
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>>155062643
Good, let the inner Irishman flow through you.
>>155062725
Yes. Absolutely.
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>>155061992
>>155061839
I'm having literally 0 problems with my full luck build
Only using inscence for my other stats
NO RAGRETS
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>>155062789
>And what exactly do you experience with that high Luck

High luck.

>>155062917
You make me proud to be an smt fan.
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>>155062917
What do you even use to attack
won't the damage be small as fuck?
And I mean... do you actually notice something like better demon recruiting, more drops (which already seems to be drop often anyways) or criticals, dodge?
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>>155062806
>>155062834
thanks friends
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>>155063187
What are they saying?
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>>155063079
I smirk alot and have no trouble with any of the game but I think thats because i'm either 2good or the game is casual af
I just use magic mainly and do decent damage (100 a hit or so)
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>>155063281
They're doing a Nanashi bullying ritual.
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>>155063318
What difficulty
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>>155062789
Crit ~50% of the time
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>>155063575
Conflict
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>>155063591
But is there even a point if you are using Magic?
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>>155063745
Magic crits now.
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>>155063745
>>155063910
basically it doesnt matter what you want to use you can just go full luck and crit almost anything
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>>155063910
>magic crits now
What the fuck
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>>155063910
>>155064054
I have only seen magic having criticals during smirk and smirk only
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>>155064125
Nigger what do you think causes a smirk?
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>MC has a clover on his hand
>Not using Luck
who would even do that?
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Started playing SMT: IV Apocalypse. Why is it so damn easy to level up in this game? Almost level 35 and I'm not even a quarter through the game yet.
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La Li Lu Le Lo
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>>155064287
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>>155064256
Because you are always given optional areas with high level demons to quickly grind like the Itsumade Demon Domain with level 20 demons as soon as level 15 etc
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>Fighting through the three boss gauntlet
>My attack misses, he smirks and wipes my party in 1 turn
Fucking kill me.
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>>155064175
But I already get Smirks by targetting weakness pretty often with default LCK so...
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>>155064383
Oh wow, this sums up Metal Gear so fucking well it's not even funny.
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>>155064520
>"it's not even funny."
>he says as I struggle to contain laugher

Thanks anon, I needed this.
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>>155053557
But it's not though
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So I did some math.
Luck maxes out at 225, and so do the rest of the stats most likely.
Max level without the DLC is 99.
Every lvl up grants you 5 points to spend on whatever stat you want (go luck first).
5 x 99 is 495. 495 - 225 is 270.
That means for best results, go full luck and full dex, str, or mag, and 45 ag.
Autistic blog over.
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>>155064520
yfw Kojima worked on this game under an alias.
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>>155064679
that would explain the shitty story
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>>155056517
Just wait till they spawn under you and spam Mamudo. Fuck was I mad.
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Doing a magic build on Apocalypse. I put 3 into magic and one into luck and agility. Am I doing it right?
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>>155065083
No. Put 5 into magic and never look back.
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>>155063281
みーな
Everyone
ごーろし
Kill

Kill everyone.
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>>155065083
You did it in reverse. 3 luck, 1 ag, 1 mag.
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>>155065253
FFUUUUUUCK. Is there any way to re-roll?
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>>155065329
Nope. You can fix it by inputting it the way I told you from now on though.
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>>155065329
Select 'New Game' from the main menu.
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>>155064491
IT JUST FUCKING HAPPENED AGAIN FUCK THIS WORTHLESS BHUDDA FUCK GOD DAMN FUCK SHIT FUCK.

WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THREE BOSS FIGHTS IN A ROW WAS A GOOD IDEA? FUCK YOU!
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>>155065481
10 star post anon.
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>>155065715
I actually beat them all in a row 1st try with Ashera with gun skills and pleroma, Ukano Mitama as a dedicated healer and Lailah with Makarakarn and Tetrakarn. Doing Mag build early 50's if I recall correctly. Good luck anon, you got this on lockdown, don't worry.
>>
>>155065715
>>155066249
oh btw I feel like Imposing Stance on Ukano Mitama for the turns he wasn't healing was really important. Got it from Zhong Kui if I'm remembering proper.
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>>155066249
I'm more mad about having to repeat the same two fights over and over again.
If it wasn't for dumb luck crits and smirks I'd have beaten him already.
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>>155065253
That is a meme go 3 mag 2 agi and fuck the meme luck.
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>>155065715
That's what you get for not leveling luck
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>>155066778
Fuck you anti memer. Luck is the true build.
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>>155066729
Losing to rng is aggravating, yeah. Good luck anon.
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>>155067135
Nigger I've put points into luck every level suck my Mara.
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>>155067268
How much points?
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Who is that one alpaca demon in the group that kidnaps Flynn?
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>>155067534
Haven't played the game yet so I'm probably wrong but either buddhista or krishna.
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>>155067765
Krishna is the bad guy who wants to make everyone in the universe turn into Microsoft tech support.
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>Reinforcements have appeared!
>Kill them
>Reinforcements have appeared!
>Kill them
>Reinforcements have appeared!

What the fuck
>>
>>155063281
MI NA GOROSHI
MI NA GOROSHI
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>>155068141
Am I the only one who never really has a problem with this? I always see it as bonus exp.
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>>155068228
I see it as bonus exp until I run out of MP
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>>155068141
Always expect the worst when it comes to SMT RNG.
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>>155068228
I don't mind it but like anon said after a point I run out of AP and it's just like fuck off let the fight end already.
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>>155068342
>>155068483
That's what happens when you don't choose world of str.
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>>155068541
But anon, physical skills cost MP now.

Which I think is really gay and dumb.
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>>155060209
>mfw I alternate between reading manga and browsing /smtg/
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>>155068669
What are you reading right now?
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>>155068601
wtf i hate Fatlus now.
But seriously that's fucking retarded.
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>>155068669
Begone unclean one
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>>155068141
>Renforcements have appeared!
>Suprise attack!
>Mabufula
>Cocksuckers smirk!
>Mabufula
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>>154992786
Asahi is so cute. Just like a puppy.
Loving her already. Wish I could pet her.
The characters in this new SMT4 game are great. Even Isabeau feels like a better character.
>>
>>155068669
You're fucking dead kiddo.
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>>155068669
Get nuked, homo.
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>>155068845
>Asahi is so cute. Just like a puppy.
But she is one anon.
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>>155023086
I miss having a ponytail
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>>155068690
Right now, some shitty DMC3 prequel story, I'm also started Tokyo Ghoul since I really enjoyed the anime.
I apologize in advance in case I triggered any /a/ crossborder with my taste.
>>
>>155069029
Flynn looked like a faggot.
You know this to be true.
>>155069071
Don't read :re.
It's shit.
>>
>>155061839
I base this using my knowledge of IV, but you can alternate between steamrolling random encounters in a single turn with hama/mudo, and you can use multi-hit skills for bosses.

It may not be the most powerful build of the bunch, but SMT doesn't really require you to min/max to beat the main game.
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>>155068845
Doggo is here
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>>155069201
Post doggo
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>>155069201
This is hideous
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>>155069509
Shit wrong doggo
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>>155069560
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>>155069071
Don't apologize for your taste. Much less to /a/

>>155069143
But he looked like a cute faggot. And I have long hair, how else am I expected to self-insert anon!
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>>155069509
>2016
>not living in a WORLD OF DOG
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>>155051043
>Kei
where the fuck are mii and kei
>>
>>155069854
This is my new favourite.
>>
>>155064648
how does it max out at 225????????
>>
I have 46 points of unallocated points in my app store. Should I save up for MP Recovery 1 or Threatening Aura?
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>>155070000
Threatening Aura is the good shit. Would recommend investing in.
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>>155069982
see
>>155062917
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>>155070000
checked
>>155070190
this desu
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>>155070226
do you mean it literally does not go past 225? or does crit rate max out at 225? I need some hard evidence
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>>155069679
Asahi with makeup makes me feel funny
>>
What do I need to know about builds for Apocalypse?

And what about endings? Are they based on choices or an alignment system this time around?
>>
>>155070226
>>155070330
To add, I might be wrong as I didn't play Apocalypse yet, but even then I think 225 is a good cutoff point.
>>155070398
Sexy funny or About-to-Projectile-Vomit funny?
>>
Why is SMT becoming more like Persona with all this waifu shit?
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>>155070429
It's as easy as a normal SMT game so doesn't matter. Pick 1 dmg stat and also Ag and Luck.

Alignment must match your endgame choice or you lose all demons/all items at the end.
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>>155070480
>Sexy funny
I dunno what do you think
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>>155070429
Luck is the only good build. If you act like a shounen MC and pick massacre Navarre takes all your items, but if you're an edgelord and pick bonds Dagda deletes your demons.
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>>155070480
225 without incense? why not keep going until you have 100% critical rate
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>>155070498
Persona is the future of SMT.
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>>155070616
What the fuck is their reasoning for doing that anyway? "You're a cunt so I'm fuck you over"?
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>>155070631
Fair enough. Just different strokes for different folks.
>>155070714
>"You're a cunt so I'm fuck you over"
Exactly that.
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>>155070480
>>155070604
Shit nigga I swear I clicked this image

>>155070498
>Persona 5 becomes SMT and makes waifufags mad
>SMT4A becomes Persona:YHVH Edition
BRAVO ATLUS
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>>155070498
SMT has always had waifus though. SMT1 routes were based on your waifu picks.
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>>155070812
Haven't been following P5 spoilers I take it? Everyone loves Persona 5 now because you can fuck nearly all the female characters
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>>155070812
I was pretty sure that P5 was too much like P4 which is what got Personafags mad, but it was a bit too edgy and now is open to "the cuck and used goods meme" which got P4babies and animufags mad.

But I really have no complains about IVA, since you can kill all the waifus.
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>>155070987
>Haven't been following P5 spoilers I take it
Not that anon, but I sincerely doubt that most of us have the patience to browse a pg thread or persona subreddit or tumblr.
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>Thought I'd hate dumb hat childhood friend
>She's actually a cutie patootie
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>>155069918
Nips also loved the Pascal callback and are having fun with it.
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>>155071150
She dies :'(
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>>155071304
You could have prevented this Anon
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>tfw you fucked up and put points into Fundraise without knowing the game practically throws macca at you constantly
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>>155071304
>She doesn't stay dead
Why can't neo SMT return sacrifice/permanence of character death back into their stories. It would have been more emotional.
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>>155071264
Of that I was aware but I had not seen that picture yet
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>>155071397
Not really, since Nanashi is the reincarnation of Akira.
>>155071541
If you don't choose her as your megami she does.
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Reminder Isabeau is still the BEST heroine
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>>155071743
Cute

>>155071797
Filthy fujoshi
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>>155071743
I want to hold her down as I penetrate her and make gentle loving sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.
>>155071797
>Liking monkeys
SULLIES THE WORLD
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>>155071743
Isn't it illegal to have a dog without a leash?
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>>155072018
>I want to hold her down as I penetrate her and make gentle loving sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.
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Heh, that "NO".
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>>155072101
DELET THIS IMOUTOT IS PU RE
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>>155072083
In some states no.
>>155072101
>Pic related.
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>>155072135
...And I broke it already.
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>>155072185
>>155072195
>Not making her your goddess
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>>155072337
But anon she is my megami.
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>>155072283
How
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Why is Gaston such a cunt?
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>Search google for some images to shitpost with
>Find pic related
The eyes have all my kek.
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>>155072704
He's number one dude
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>>155072653
probably Demon Fusion Lite
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>>155072792
Does Demon Fusion Lite let you bypass restrictions like unique skills?
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>>155072704
He's supposed to be an expy of Gaston.
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>>155072792
I wasn't using Demon Fusion Lite, I'm trying to see if I can replicate the glitch again.
>>155072865
Sorta, but DFL is a fucking gamble.
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>>155072991
And forgot I pic lol
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>>155072865
In the original SMTIV you could use Demon Fusion Lite to transfer exclusive skills to the resulting demon. Y'see, you didn't get to choose what skills the result had, but Demon Fusion Lite would max out those slots for you.

Apparently, this isn't what the dude was doing though, so idk if that's still a thing in SMT:IVa
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>>155072704
He's a lawfag.
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Where do you find the black card in SMT Final?
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>>155074086
It's a DLC only item. Only $2.49!
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Wouldn't it be cute to have the cast of IVA drawn in the Peanuts artstyle, with Asahi as "the Snoopy" and Navarre as "the Woodstock" of the group?

I'm gonna request it in drawfag threads, but I'll start here since there are (or used to be) a few drawfags who made those "Marine vending machine memes" for us.
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>>155073197
Someone in the last thread said it still works so I assume so
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So is Stephen and the girl some kind of alien?
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>>155074869
Did you not play SMTIV?
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>>155074869
>i don't know the lore: the post
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>>155074869
>So is Stephen and the girl some kind of alien?
Steven, kinda. But
>the girl
Real specific anon. It isn't like there are 4 main girls in the entirety of IVA
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>>155073135
Does Desperate Hit still scale off of Dex?
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>>155074869
Everyone is aliens.
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Why did I even fight this mad kike scientist and his robo monkey in Soul Hackers?
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>>155075140
It's a Debisama reference
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>>155075140
It's an optional dungeon. You get tons of Magnetite in that dungeon though iirc, so grind some if you feel like it.
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>>155075185
What's Debisama?
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>>155075271
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>>155075336
Why is devil summoner 1 called Debisama? I'm new here and suck a lot of cock. I'll suck yours if you tell me.
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>>155075469
De-bi-ru sa-ma-na
Debisama

In Japan, DeSu is called Debisaiba
Devil Children/Demikids is called Debichiru
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So is Persona to SMT like Dr. Slump to Dragonball?
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>>155075469
Debiru Samanaa is the Japanese title. Since we have the Raidou games, saying Devil Summoner isn't specific enough, and since we have Devil Surivor, DeSu doesn't work either.
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>>155075580
It's annoying when people think Devil Summoner = Raidou 1
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>>155075530
>>155075580
Where do you wanna meet up?
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>>155075735
Roppongi
o
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p
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g
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I thought apocalypse was the 20th.
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>sexist character designs
>white washing
What went wrong
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>>155076230
It is. Thankfully a lot of stores don't care about street dates.
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>>155076272
With poos, you lose
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>>155075565
Only Persona 1.

Persona 2 is way 2deep4u to fit in that comparison and it would be more like the Marxism of SMT (great ideas with shitty execution); P3/4 are the Lucky Star of SMT.
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>>155076230
Leaks
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>>155076413
>(great ideas with shitty execution)

This is how I feel about the entire Persona series.
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So what are the rewards you get in Final for completing 4?
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Oh baby.
>>155077071
Some titles, a couple of 20x AP cards, and a ring.
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>>155076596
Really, a game based on Karl Jung's theories sounds really kickass.

But then you realize that the games are either broken or piss easy, and in the story it's explained that everything went to shit because two asshole deities made a bet for shit and jiggles, but then even that inspired setting is dropped in favour of making playable slice of life anime with some megaten gameplay thrown as filler.
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>>155077152
Titles? Is it worth getting? Forgot to back up save when I went digital. Might have to replay 4 if it is.
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>>155077071
A 15 minute cutscene of Isabeau slicking to yaoi.
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>>155073135
MY DEMONS ARE A BIT DIFFERENT
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i'm playing apocalypse and i've hit a roadblock
how the hell do i get past the three boss gauntlet with marishiten, inanna and maitreya? i always get my shit kicked in at the last part but i leveled up a bit and now i'm getting my ass kicked at the first part
;_;
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>>155077470
As in DDS titles; eg Star of Hope, Ruler of Chaos, Agent of Order, and a white ending title I didn't bother to get.
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Where's the gold in Midtown? Or is that just a ruse?
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>>155077725
Did you level up your luck?
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>>155077757
The gold was the Black Card.
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>>155077794
it's 78
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Does anyone else notice how overpowered hama spells are in apocalypse
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>>155077152
How do you even get those rewards?
Like, SMTIV's save's in the cart no?
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>>155077860
Yup, just have the SMT IV cart ready when prompt for the save import.
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>>155077725
I'm stuck there as well, I was bitching about it earlier in the thread.

At this point I'm just going to either grind or drop the difficulty for this one fight.
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>>155077470
Only for the rings which are super hard mode and super EZ mode equipments.

The early AP points also come in handy.
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>>155077950
Ah cool, thought it was a Digital only or two 3ds thing, thanks
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>>155077725
being a DEXfag helps
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Just got done with the first Sheesha fight. When does this game get harder?
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>>155078391
Never. You're playing a Shin Megami Tensei game.
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>>155078029
do you know their weaknesses? i forgot them, except to not use fire.
>>155078210
my dx is 11 ;_;
>>155078391
a couple hours
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>>155077464
That's about what I expect out of Atlus.

>>155078073
Rings oughta be carry over even if you have an incomplete save. The only bonuses that require completion are 20 point cards and the Streetpass titles.

>>155078391
It's Shin Megami Tensei so never.
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>>155077848
What level are you?
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>>155078530
Last guy is weak to gun, I don't remember the other two.
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>Nemissa stops giving you password hints on the upper floors of the monolith
Sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.
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>>155078578
48, and all of my demons are late 30s-mid 40s
>>155078629
only one of my demons knows gun skills and he sucks
guess i'm boned
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>>155078814
>Demons lower level than Nanashi
Do you even fusion boost?
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>>155078912
probably not
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>>155078912
Fusion boost meme is almost as bad as the luck meme senpai
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>>155078706
Git gud at memorizing, that puzzle is not even hard.
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>>155078706
>her face when
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>>155044976
Game mechanics don't real.
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>>155078814
>He's lvl 48 and his luck is only 78
Wew lad.
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>>155077152
You get 3 20x point cards, which are fucking awesome for buying the +1 skill slot apps.

When do I get the second skill slots? Meanwhile I like how this allows you to buy cool apps earlier, it sucks I can't use more than 5 skills.
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>>155079060
>hurr git gud
here's a pity (you) don't spend it all in one place

>>155079103
Slut.
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>There will be a SMT game with as much detail as Soul Hackers.
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>>155079207
>He's this mad because of a puzzle
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>>155077858
I remember a lot of early game enemies being weak to it and it seems to hit for silly numbers against bosses sometimes yes
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>>155053586
Its not just that its forbidden. Its that no one knows how its pronounced anymore, BECAUSE it was forbidden. Some people treat this as mystical, so it made its way into the game.
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>>155079409
Not him but this is also what I thought I just chose not to say anything on the chance that I was wrong because I didn't want to look dumb.
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>>155079153
meme

>>155079304
>Hey I'm into video games. Do you know any good ones?
>SOUL HACKERS
>Ooh. I'm playing that too! I'm at this point where I have to talk to a human named Joe... Wait, what's your name? Joe?! What world am I in?!
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>>155079207
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>>155079409
Well we could always go by the devil's fuge legend thing from DeSu and that IT'S ACTUALLY FORBIDDEN as to say rather than just "pls don't say" written on a sign somewhere.
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>>155079207
You only have to memorize two short words that make sense to any megaten fan, TWO WORDS.

Git gud is the only advice that you need and deserve.
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>>155079552
But it's a good meme.
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>>155079741
imagine being THIS mad
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>>155079845
>anon is so mad that he pretends that I'm mad to hide his own mad

I'm glad I'll never be as mad as anon.
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>>155070320
Please post more of the prettiest and most trustworthy angel. I don't have any for my collection
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>>155079981
mad af
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>>155080064
You got mad from a fucking puzzle. Not even a hard one.
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>demon joined my party because my Ma stat was high as fuck

I like this.
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>>155079987
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>>155080226
u got madder.
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Who is the Adam Kadmon of SMT?
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>>155080367
Dumb horse ear slut
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Is it possible to fuck demons? Or is my party of female demons utterly pointless?
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>>155080064
Meet me at Paradigm X and we'll settle this.
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>>155080367
I'm not >>155079981
I just think you're hilarious in an extremely ironic way.
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>>155080356
Oh nice this is a good one. Keep them coming please
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>>155080445
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>>155080445
SHES NOT A SLUT
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>>155080405
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>>155080639
Nice Lingerie slut
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>>155080856
This is not him being trustworthy. More trust
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>>155077728
>>155078073
Alright, thanks.
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>>155080509
Likewise.
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>>155081571
>>155081418
>>155081260
>>155080856
>>155080687
>>155080356
>>155070320
Would you trust this angel /hoy/?
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>>155081652
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What is Inanna's voice like in the dub?
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>>155081652
>Would you trust this angel /hoy/?
Chaosfags, and hoyfags in particular are known for trusting untrustworthy angels, so the answer is yes.
>>
Was Shin Megami Tensei Nine that bad of a game?
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>>155083727
It was supposed to be an MMO wasn't it?
That probably speaks to it's quality.
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>>155081652
Depends on which Mastema it is.

IV: Yes. Anyone that was against the overzealous four monstrous cunt seraphim can't be that bad.
SJ: Shank him while Zelenin's not looking.
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>>155083807
But Imagine was pretty solid.
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>>155083858
>mastema being better in IV

Nice try, lao tsu.
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>>155083858
You're joking, right? Merkebah was the hero of SMT4.
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>>155083989
Black holing a city because of the birth of one fujoshi is not correct nor does it make you a hero.
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>>155084030

Doing it for the sake of a peaceful world does though. The amount of people who died there is trivial compared to the amount saved long term.
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>>155084030
Killing Isabeau is worth killing MILLIONS.
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What are Stephen's intentions? He's too neutral.
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>>155084132
Don't try to reason with neuters
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>>155084263
Humanity masterrace.
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I didn't do chaos end in SMT4. Tokyo is currently a demon-infested hellhole where humanity is nearly completely wiped out and only the strong survive but only barely.

What exactly does Walter/Chaos route CHANGE about that?
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>>155084263
>go to new world
>do nothing
>take all the credit anyways for neutral endings.

He seems like he has some weird hypocritical rule against direct intervention. So all he'll do is give you programs or teleport you around. He obviously supports neutral, but in some weird way where he acts ambiguous about what he means by it.
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>>155084294
>neuters
>not "monkeyposters"
You had one job anon.
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>>155084030
Black holing a city almost completely overrun by demons, unclean thugs who mulch up babbys brains and feed them to demons, all to stop a hellmouth that threatens to overrun humanity is worth it.

>>155084263
Plot device.
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>>155084346
It makes mikado the same. Also even more humans die.
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>>155084583
Fucking casualries.
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>it's a Lawfag thread

Please stop.
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>>155084686
That's every thread anon. Did you leave for a few years or are you new?
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>>155084764
>Did you leave for a few years
Yes.
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>>155084686
What's the point of complaining? Law already definitively won the alignment wars. Neutral is reduced to memeposting and hypocritical nonsense. If you don't like the law, maybe you should go visit persona general where every ending is the bonds ending.
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>>155084468
If I understand it correctly, he doesn't want humanity to be dominated by God or demons. He wants them to decide their own future. That's pretty much it.
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>>155079304
>Serial Experiments Lain opening theme plays.
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>>155084829
Hoyman is superior.
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Where do I find a black card?

Where is downtown Ginza?

M A O R U
A
O
R
U

JUST BELIEVE IN YOURSELF
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Be sure to name the next thread /hoy/ anons.
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>>155077071
>>155077152
>beat smt4 on cart and pirated apocalypse and it won't accept my game cart
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>>155077071
Come to my house and I'll show you. Bring lube.
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>>155085534
Probably because you're a europoor. I beat it w/ my cart and successfully imported my game.
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>>155084263
According to an interview done way back when SMTII came out, Steven is like this:

>That’s why he’s the symbol of Neutral, same with Steven. The famous theoretical physicist Hawking downright denied God’s existence. His theories start from that point. He became a sensation in the West because he said God wasn’t the one who created the Universe and everything was based on physical principles. He maintained in his books that the Universe wasn’t created by God, but even if we Japanese read the translations of his works, we think this is something obvious. The Japanese aren’t monotheists, so that train of thought is interesting to us. We had Steven appear in the Shin Megami Tensei series in order to visually present that ideology. So the story of Shin Megami Tensei isn’t just one of gods and demons, but the base concept is that you have to head in a direction different from both of them, and the one who becomes that guide is none other than Steven.

So Steven basically wants humans to be free from demons and Gods.
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>>155085534
That's weird. Are you using the region-free version by any chance?
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>hardest difficulty is locked behind free DLC bullshit until next month

What's the fucking point?
Anyone have a way to enable the difficulty DLC right now? Like converting a jap save with it enabled into the US version, or something along those lines.
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>>155085729
nah im a REAL AMERICAN PATRIOT

>>155085747
im not sure. im using the first cia that was released last tuesday
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>>155085265
black card is a far later quest reward
if you're looking for prometheus he's in a room in the area with the special shops
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>>155085739
I love how they act like Japanese polytheism and atheism are the same thing. Obviously the real stephen hawking wants us to worship lao tsu and masakado and the guy in the diamond realm that nobody can remember his name. Gods are okay as long as they were humans once! Also, conveniently all the neutral gods are asian. As are their churches.
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>>155085534
You're either a liar or you fucked something up because I'm doing the exact same thing and everything worked perfectly.
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>>155085887
>if you're looking for prometheus he's in a room in the area with the special shops
yeah thats the one. those fucfs in that area are discriminating against me for not having a black card.

and why does atlus choose not to add names to the mip? it's so shitty. do they really expect americans and europoors to be able to recognize where west shinjuku park or the national diet building is? fucking atlus
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>>155085739
I've always wondered, does Stephen Hawking know he's in these games and if he does what does he think of his depiction in them?
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>>155086102
I doubt he gives a shit.

Like how Chuck Yeager didn't care that he was the best girl in Strike Wtiches.
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>>155086038
>and why does atlus choose not to add names to the mip?

But there ARE names on the map.
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>>155085754
Hardest difficulty is called Etrian Odyssey and can be had for $10 on eshop.

>>155085914
Materialist atheism to boot.

I don't even think Stephen Hawking was famous because he denied God.

Whatever, it's the usual SMT routine of playing up rule of cool when it suits them and then pretending at depth when they have to explain why they can't write a cool plot to go with all this cool.

>>155086038
I thought they were fixing SMT4's terrible-ass map in 4A.

>>155086102
He's practically a just a deus ex machina in these games though.
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>>155086219
Only for major locations, minor locations like Dogenkenza and Inori require you to navigate for 30+ minutes

>>155086238
Nope, no improvements at all
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>>155085914
What's funny is that they bring that up in the same interview. Apparently any ideology that works towards "balance" is Neutral.

>However, if we limit ourselves to this game, I did say I wanted to make Law the theme, but in contrast with Satan and Lucifer, we can also say he [Steven] is a truly Neutral character.
>Narisawa: That’s why I have a feeling he was close to the “Old man from Kichijouji” from the previous game.
>Okada: Reading it, aren’t you (laughs)
>Itou: After the first game, I personally thought there kind of appeared a gap between Steven’s and the old men’s existence.
>Narisawa: That old man is a Taoist monk, right? Taoism itself has represented balance from the very beginning.
>Itou: That’s why he’s the symbol of Neutral, same with Steven.

So Taoism is also Neutral, apparently.
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>>155071514
>until you get macca beamed three times in a row and have 150,000 macca taken
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>>155086238
Too be fair, stephen hawking does identify as a vague pantheist sometimes. Which not that anyone being coherent would look to him for any kind of spirituality, but someone from another country could maybe use that as a symbol of identifying both with dispelling wervice to tangible gods while retaining a vague spirituality like there is in I.
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>>155071514
> the game practically throws macca at you constantly
FINALLY AN IMPROVEMENT OVER SMT4 I CAN GET BEHIND.
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>>155086406
I haven't seen a Preta in hours. If anything else has Macca Beam it's gonna be a real surprise.
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>>155086557
There is

Also can someone help me, im playing smt 4a (USA) on a japanese n3ds and i cant access DDS. Is there anyway to fix this?
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does anyone have a map for tsukiji konganji in apocalypse because hooooly fuckin shit i cannot find the way back to the boss room hallway
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>>155086557
Nekomata has Macca Beam.
That one caught me by suprise.
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>>155086349
Its obvious that taoism is neutral. Not only is lao tsu the main representative in I, and at the end overtly talks about balance in a way that makes it obvious that you are meant to see it as yin and yang, in II the repair garage guy has a yin yang symbol on his clothes, and in the background is another taoist symbol, along with some shinto ones.

Ironically this parralels the western misunderstanding of eastern religion which presents it as unconcerned with gods. Which is really not true at all. Since it takes all this taoist crap, not to mention shinto stuff which is LITERALLY about nothing BUT your relation to the gods, and presents it as aligned with the muh humanist side. And they use a lot of ex human figures from taoism as if that makes it more about humanism.

The irony in the end is that all the sides to some degree are about surpassing a relation to the gods that is mere compliance and worship. So neutral is hardly unique in that regard. So its just another way they seem bipolar.
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how do i make my demons learn me new skills? they haven't been teaching me shit lately and it seems random
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Help DDS no work :,(
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>>155087245
>how do i make my demons learn me new skills
>learn me new skills
>learn me
Are you a southerner by any chance?
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>>155087379
nope
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>>155087379
Maybe he's Irish
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>>155086890
>female demon (tho sfw) has an attack that steals money
sasuga japs. bunch of pigs. in other news none of the girls in my women's studies 001 class want to suck my dick despite that i think they're people, what's up with that
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>>155085739
>So Steven basically wants humans to be free from demons and Gods.

Convenient that this doesn't include neutral ones. In bonds its not even ambiguous anymore. There's straight up gods ruling over you.
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>>155087827
Neutral has always been hypocritical. At least Law and Chaos stick to their principals most of the time, Neutral is all over the place.
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Any way to start on the Apocalypse difficulty before the DLC is out? Some save editing I don't know.

I'll only play the game once and part of the reason I enjoy Fatlus games is the challenge, help me out here, my 3DS is hacked to shit and back.
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>>155088178
>part of the reason I enjoy Fatlus games is the challenge
Then stick to Etrian Odyssey.
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>>155087827
Pretty sure, we are meant to interpret the bonds ending as cooperation and coexistence and not rulling over. But yeah, you are right, the people of Tokyo are dependant on Danu and the fairies for survival, so they might as well be their rulers. Not to mention that if the demons decide to be asshole again (why did they even stop anyway?) there is nothing humans can do about it.
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>>155088121
Actually, you know what the worst part of neutral is? Its that they seem to lack conviction. This is something that is common in the games, and presented as an actual feature of them. I'm not talking about being indecisive. But the fact that its apparently an actual feature of them that they don't really think they are right. For instance, in SMT 1, En no Ozuno tells you outright that there isn't particularly one right answer, but multiple paths. And the song identifies him as a neutral character. and as late as IV, isabeau when you face her on law and chaos tells you you are a strong samurai who can be proud of the path you have chosen. Like, whut? Why do they act like they don't think you are really wrong when you side against them. When they clearly do. Is this a shitty appeal to naive relativism being seen as "more tolerant?" because its really not correct.
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>>155084132
What long term the population is so small that every village resides on Masakado despite it being 1500 later. Thry even had things set up so Hugo can do his own book spreading demon plague.
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>>155088379
Yeah, you're right. The only time I didn't get this impression was with Gore. He seemed to be the only one who really believed in Neutral and wouldn't hesitate to fuck you up if you were against him.
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>>155088351
>Pretty sure, we are meant to interpret the bonds ending as cooperation and coexistence and not rulling over.

The same is true for many law and chaos ends. II's law makes it clear that yhvh is tolerated if he helps make a peaceful system. But its for the sake of the people, and he gets offed if he's in the way. And chaos endings in general imply that if you can stand toe to toe with gods you don't have to rely on them for shit, but can stand above them. So either way you go you're meant to see that there is no absolute presumption of gods over you. They perform a role, but are not something you can't question. Meaning that neutral still having gods around in some sense is not really inherently distinct.

> Not to mention that if the demons decide to be asshole again (why did they even stop anyway?)

The magic of saying "lets all get along" magically making it true when its to make a point about neutrality.
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So will saves from the leaked, region-free version be able to be transferred to non-RF versions when they're out?
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>>155088323
I already played all of them except the second remake.

But I guess that's a no on the difficulty unlock question.
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How many songs are left unchanged by the persona 1 music patch?
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>donald duck shesha
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>>155088620
This. Lucifer points out as the Messiah Aleph can restore order as his right as a free being, as his disgust for Law was the intolerant corruption of the Messians. Even Crowley complains cause orgies are not allowed.

And he says sorry in a Neutral Visionary Item.
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>Hallelujah punches Gaston in the face
I like this guy
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Who would you rather take the virginity of? Asahi or Toki?
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>>155090073
Lilith
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>>155090073
Hallelujah.
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>>155090073
Pascal.
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I figured out how to get Apocalypse difficulty early, by loading a save from the JP version on Apocalypse difficulty.

Here's a save from the beginning on Apocalypse: https://mega.nz/#!ZQk1AbZQ!ZwxEqTRnNJWF0zD5wPsTUAJb_v3b1CdHdeJP9syNof8

Import it with JKSM/SVDT, load the save (it should be slot 1), then load the save you want Apocalypse on. It'll then be selectable.
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>>155090897
What the fuck is paradise
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>>155090963
Battles where you won't even have to heal before the bosses die.
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>>155090963
>I only play for the story
That's essentially the difficulty in a nutshell.
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Someone make a new thread please.
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>>155090897
You are my god right now, I love you.

I had the same idea, but I was in the process of downloading the Japanese CIA from some literal who hosting provider (now that MEGA has turned to shit) to generate a save file but it was taking forever.
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i fused some demons to make an electric-based demon, but it failed and now i have jeanne d'arc with high heal pleroma and a bunch of shit i don't care about
should i keep it?
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>>155091241
Tbh that's borderline me with rpgs. Its not like most rpg gameplay is actually super engaging. However, I do like fusing, and I think it ruins it for it to be too easy since there's no tension. Depending on how hard war is I'll probably go with it and call it a day.
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For the love of YHVH make a thread please! We're about to die!
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>>155091548
I would, but I don't want to look stupid when there's already another one.
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>>155091241
No thats what skirmish is for
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>>155091712
Then why is Paradise above it?
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>>155091634
Just do it!
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>>155090897
Neat
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>>155091887
>Evened out his stats at 7
>Even his post ends in 7
AHHHHHHH
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>>155092029
heh
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>>155091876
I second this.

Do it anon, before it's too late.
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>>155092169
NO FUCKING BRAKES
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>>155092241
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>>155081571
>>155081640
Am I alone in thinking his design is one of the coolest? Lots of cool angel designs but the robe thing and mask make it work
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When's new bread?
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>>155092698
He's literally the most liked character in the series by a wide margin. You're probably not alone.
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Persona can into amala network now
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>>155092707
At current time

>>155093159
>>155093159
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>>155093179
ty
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