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/mbgg/ - Mobage General #606

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Best Girls Edition

This general is for discussing the less popular mobage (Mobile Games). Games whose /vg/ generals wouldn't last a day or two on their own and games that are not popular enough for their own general. Typically these are Japanese only games.

>For a full list of games played in the thread, read this:
http://ofo.jp/j/jKix

If looking for game recommendations or suggestions on what to play, please check the above docs. This docs is regularly updated with games and has all the games discussed on the thread.

>Help! The game I want to play is not available for download on the store:
Read this for information on how to find APKs or getting around region locks.
http://pastebin.com/Nsg98EEf

>Upcoming mobage doc
http://ofo.jp/j/h7Pt

Link to previous thread: >>154803061

Remember to REPORT and IGNORE shitposters instead of giving them the attention they want and helping them shit up the thread.
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1st for guarding Otohime
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>>154990310
Haven is going to stay dogshit since it has no good cards revealed.

Sword is also going to remain stagnant and might be surpassed by Necro and Forest midrange variants.
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>>154990791
The Haven silver is really strong, And I'm convinced Haven's Legendary will be the first truly powerful Countdown Amulet card. I'm thinking it'll have a dual effect. An amulet effect that is strong enough to make your opponent to want to get rid of it, and a strong monster at the end.
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is there a difference between Bilibili girls frontline and the official server
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>>154992104
Hosted by different company. Events and content updates might not be the same.
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>>154992104

Here
>>154919221
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What would you do with your goth loli at the park?
I bothers me that I'm starting to like this outfit
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is the new BGHS gacha worth rolling?
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>>154993634
If you want a specific girl out of there to listen to her solo or for her outfit, you're going to be hurting. Even getting someone from the new set is dicey because it's 18 cards so dupes can happen from any previous rolls. Being called Manager-san is unnerving too.
No reason at all for e-sports.

But if you don't care about any of that and aren't saving for upcoming birthdays, a courtesy roll can't hurt.
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My third 5x squad now. Gotta get Kar98k to 90 for that max affection.
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xth for ding dong!
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>>154998285
DING DING DONG DONG DING DONG DONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsjb4XyTErs
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>>154997353
gunwaifus? what game is this
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>>154998546
I only lurk here for SV but I think that is girls frontline that all the anon's love to play
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>Hell co-op dragon
Aww fuck this. Shit's going to be fucking awful. What's the best way ti cheese the dragon? Ususally I just buff my teammates with Swimsuit Renge and sneak in a Swimsuit Mumi skill every now and then.
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>>154998285
DING DONG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlr_zBGzi_Y
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>>154998546
Girls Frontline my senpai
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Just give me like one way to fight back against all these decks that do nothing but cycle then OTK
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How the fucking Christ are you supposed to beat 14-3 in Panzer Waltz? 18 dodges in a row. EIGHT FUCKING TEEN.
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Recommended emulator for GF?
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>>155000735
Post your team and equipment.
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>>155000994
Nox. Read the guide.
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>>155001160
sorry, I thought it wasn't on the guide for some reason.
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>>154998672
You sure it's 14-3 you're having trouble with?

It's a Grass Plains Map that features only HTs and artillery type LAVs which don't have nearly as insane evasion rates as the cycling lizards.

The only reasons I can think of for you missing are not having enough range and having extremely poor targeting stats across your whole team.

It's very hard to imagine a scenario where you completely failed to notice the range since there are many plains maps before this so I assume you have really poor targeting.

Basically, try out gun stabilizers, counterrecoils, and evacuators. Use LT attires to enhance your tanks' targeting if you have some to spare, particularly your SPGs. As well as switching to ammunition that boosts targeting stat for this one map at least. Also remember to upgrade your chassis tech.
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>>155001473
And I quoted the wrong post. Forgot I was going to answer that post.

I'm basically planning on just running Sirius Leader Asuha on Swimsuit Sakura and infinitely using her invincibility+superarmor skill.

Either that or Halloween Haruka infinitely using Flora Mumi's healing+superarmor field.

Basically abusing SP regen passives.
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I wish I was on the same wavelength as you people in these threads, because I love Nip Mobage but hate a lot of the tropes within them.

Can you recommend me any games that:

>Aren't idol
>Aren't full of *just* qt or lewd girl units and cards
>Has units/cards that have a bit of monster shit/cool factor going on (not necessarily grimdark and serious)
>is not purely an auto battler
>is not a tcg like shadowverse

I love the collection and battle with said collection aspect of Mobage, so I'm a big fan of PAD, Monster strike. But I feel like playing something new, been keeping an eye on Shironeko or BGHS but I'm worried they're a bit too cutesy - any good reccs? Thanks kazoku
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>>155001765
Let's Gather Pussies
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>>155001765
>I'm worried they're a bit too cutesy
You're in the wrong thread
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REEEEE:Zero - Starting Life in a Dogshit Game

I can't believe Divine Gate is hitting 3rd anniversary soon.
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>>155001892
>>155001839

I don't think a Mobage has to necessarily be 100% cute. I don't understand the draw of games where every unit/card is trying to out cute the others, I find it very boring.
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>>155002258
that game is still a thing?
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>>155002258
Despite being with these threads for over an year now, I still have no idea how Divine Gate plays. Or how it gets so many freaking collabs.
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>>155001765
Just go and keep playing that shitty pad
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I'm... not sure how to feel about this at all. I mean, on one hand, a 5* Special Character but it's... not a moe girl...
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>The way those breasts are squeezed into her top
I wish I had a larger screen sometimes.
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>>155002956
But it's objectively better than your girlfriend simulators?
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>>155003457
The girls in this are seriously cute.
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>>155003457
Does the game still takes forever to load a stage?
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God Eater mobage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YifXp1sWMBU
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>>155001765
Your best bet is to check the archive in the pastebin and try them yourself. There are plenty of decent games there but don't expect any sort of /mbgg/ community still playing. If people actually went through the trouble of writing a faq/doc, chances are the game was decent.
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>>155003757
too bad the game itself sucks ass
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>>154936176
Damn. Just burned my 40 tickets and got Faerie, King, Ragnarok and the Whitewyrm Wand on my very final paper. Rest was the expected shit in form of shields and counters. Would've preferred the Dragon over King (or Faerie), but I don't really get to complain when a game bows this much to the desire sensor.

Getting the bare minimum of 8 rares from 40 rolls is really a testament for the abysmal rates of the CoT pact though. Each roll was 8 silvers with the 2 "forced" golds at the end.
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>>155004521
In all the 10 rolls I've done I've never seen more than the minimum 2 rares. Rolled the 20 tickets from the trading post today and got four coin gacha S evolutions. Not even decent ones, either, but useless junk like +10% equip magic defense.

Found that they added these former DLC elemental kids to the gacha in addition to the ones in the previous trading posts, so it's possible that white orbling is in there as well.
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>>155004942
>minimum 2 rares
Rather, minimum 2 golds.
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>>155001765
Granblue fantasy fits your criteria not even meming
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>>155001765
Terra Battle.
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>collection room buildig for statues in shironeko
Fucking finally. I'malmost out of space for those statues
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>>155001765
If you like puzzle you should try pripuz. It's actually fairly difficult for a little girl game.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.takaratomyarts.pripuz
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>Not a single UR in my last 8 6% 10+1's in MA2
>1500 gems spent since my last non dupe in bghs during guarantees with only 2 bunnies and MUTE Urara
>1 4 star in my 140+ rolls in liberation
>10+ silvers/troll golds in a row on PAD

Holy shit. This is just not my month for mobage.
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>>155004942

I noticed that too. Wonder if they will ever add Ethereal to normal pulls and give her the recode she needs
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So I rolled my other 10 tickets.
The rares were Kiss Bottle and Staff of Poseidon. Rest was some junk, but I also got King's and Dragon's Chronicle and two Bewitching Bows.
Too bad the Chronicles only have 50% activation rate. Still good though. Metal Zones, here I come.
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Does the master's menu button do anything because it looks like I should be able to press it
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>>155006993
for some reason it won't start downloading updates when I open it. what do
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Give me a good timesink.
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>>155009353
Why are you not saving up for darkness?
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>>155010497
Cookie clicker
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>>155010497
Potion Maker
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>>155010497
Monster Hunter Explore.
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>>155010551
I only started about a week ago
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GF jap servers when?
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>>155011146
never
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>>155008143
>her
>implying Ethereal is the girl

That thing was a promo unit before MW really understood how to do promo content and while its Debilitate still sounded somewhat cool. It's pretty much doomed to stay forgotten, rereleasing Ethereal as a complete new 3-job-monster and/or recode would be a nice callback though. Unfortunately current MW is too busy derping "So we herd u liek traps." to do well thought out and nice content like that.
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How good is Matilda Hedgehog / rockets? Been swapping to rockets since I heard they get better at higher tech levels but at like 28+ or so and not sure if I feel it. I'm committed anyway since I have T60 / sfd 251 and am close to Sturmtiger as well so no real backing out even if I want M43 sl bad. And following meatshield lines I've been using T44M but she's getting dumpstered in map 7 of event. I doubt I can clear it before end but which would be be better meat between Aus F E and KV2?
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Is the new n6 SPG any good?
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Rune is going to be the new strongest deck.
Just look at Remi.

She's 8/9 worth of stats with a ward.
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>>155013228
What about Otohime
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>>155013228
pls no I am going to cry if the ladder gets filled with merlin of many spell discounts
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>>155013295
Otohime is nerfed with this set's release by virtue of the Charge mechanic existing.
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>>155013228
Good, maybe with the fucking Forest and Dragon cancer getting toned down a bit, Blood will actually become playable.
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>>155013610
Purgatory Forest got nerfed, but Dragon definitely feels like it'll be even better with Olivia.
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>>155013228
>4 mana + EP + Earth Rite
>5/6 + 3/3 Ward
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>>155012303
T-44-100 or Panther F is the better medium meatshield, if I'm not mistaken Patton gets sloped chassis as well.
Not a rocket user so not sure on Hedgehog.
>>155012936
Someone said she gets frag HE and HESH.
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>>155013838
Olivia doesn't really bother me as a Blood player, since it's almost always Satan or storms that will kill me. If I don't play aggressively and get myself into veng, they can just slowly get Satan and auto win, but if I get too aggressive, I can just eat a Forte/Urd combo or an evolved Genesis dragon to the face.

It's still not as oppressive as the Forest match up, it's like 70% in their favor, I honestly just concede half the time if I don't get a good enough hand.
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>>155014614
>>155012936
Which SPG, Sexton? That freebie gets frag HE?
That's really damn good for a freebie, isn't it?
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Is Montowers2 dead for good?
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>>155015213
M43 not the Sexton who is N4.
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Is the english server for Panzer Waltz fine?
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>>155006732
I don't know why they didn't just let us put them in the museum. The building for them is pretty ugly too.
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>>155013838
>Got nerfed
Good joke nigger, did they touch PtP, Altered Fate, roaches, or Ancient Elf? No? Then it didn't get nerfed, it got "nerfed". It still crushes every deck other than sword the same way, only now the equally cancerous sword has a slightly easier time being an overextending retard.
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>>155014614
I've got medium / heavy armor near maxed out for my commander rank so just better meatshield in general. T44s got that weird left boob if I remember.
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>>155016693
is "nerfed" a subset of nerfed or is nerfed a subset of "nerfed".
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Anyone hype for Gods Eater Online?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YifXp1sWMBU
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>>155017783
Looks neat, but I wonder if they'll localize it? You'd think they would, what with Resurrection and 2 recently being localized.
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>>155018036
Anon you don't really need localized to get the game. You can just download the apk and run it like most JP only games.
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>>155018136
>implying I can read Moon Runes
>implying I know any Japanese aside from stuff like nani and sugoi
Whatever story is in the game, I'd like to understand it.

That being said, I just have to download the apk? I don't need a proxy or anything?
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>>155018490
>Caring about story in a mobage
All you really need to understand is what button does what when it comes to hunting.
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>>155018571
True. Besides, I could always look a summary or something if I really wanna know.
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>>155018824
Anon all gods eater games are the same. You are trying to save the world by killing arigami
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Is the rate up thing really up in GF? I swear I've never gotten this many 2*s with 4442.
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Fafnir OP.
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just in time for nerf
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>6 10+1s
>No Sadone
Suffering
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>>155019575
>6
>S I X
>in a gacha with 18 cards
You shouldn't have expected anything less
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>>155020074
Probably out of luck
Rolled 10/18, and tomorrow's the last day of guarantees
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>>155017042
Pretty much everyone use T29E3 or IS-2M due to sloped chassis.
Tiger E is not much offensive wise but the hidden stats gives her some advantage, I still use her in raid from time to time.
>>155019076
Got 5 4* in almost 30 crafts, not sure if that rate is high since I just started recently.
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anyone having trouble with shadowverse crashing? both yesterday and today i had a crash in the arena and it's really pissing me off
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>>155020426
rip
Did you at least get some of the outfits/songs/VAs you like?
Or are you the anon that restarted for Sadone?
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so according to reddit shadowcraft is getting a 3 cost amulet that automaticaly creates 13 shadows but reduce your shadow to 0 if it get destroyed and self destruct after 2 turns

are you guys ready for shadow purg?
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>>155021625
I just want a counter to amulets that isn't 5+ play points
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>>155021625
no worries, it's really difficult to reach 30 shadows
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>>155020610
So Tiger II Henschel doesn't compare with them? Probably get IS-2 then since I'm on that build patch, really wish Excelsior was good, shame they use these nice designs on bad tanks.
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>>155019184
I want Forte to straddle me like that
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>play fairies
>lose

T-thanks devs.
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>>155021625
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>>155022089
Totally forgot about that but I don't have her to know her armour selection although if Tiger II Porsche is anything to go by King Tigers probably doesn't get wedged armour for extra ricochet.
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>>155022295
>2 mana 4/3
I doubt it will even have a downside, it will probably have a positive effect knowing it's a Dragon card.
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>Today's +drops girl link is 3rd years
>Don't have birthday Renge
I just had to get a dupe 4-star from Renge's birthday.

Also looks like Mumi-fags are catching up to Haruka, only 750k away, compared to over 4m away for Kokomi.
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>>155022754
It has rush, so it can attack followers on the turn its summoned
The amulet to the left of it transforms all 3 cost or less followers in your hand/ that you draw into the dragon on the right
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Is it a mistake to replace one of these with a jagdpanther?
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>>155020795
Got Hinata and Sakura which is nice, but it doesn't mean much without Sadone
Yes
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>>155022880
Time for autism
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>>155022904
Cool, so they're removing the only weakness the class has, its early game? Now we can look forward to consistent turn 6 storm lethals and satans, because we won't even be able to stay on board, let alone kill them before they reach their win con.
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>>155022986
She is good for late game dirt maps where SPGs are sitting ducks.
Rather good DPS and off tank too.
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>>155017783
Me lad

>>155018036
>localize
I hope not.
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>>155022754
>>155022295
Translations since I don't think we made it the first time it was posted. Starting from the top left:

Mini Soul Devil
>Blood
>When another allied follower evolves, heal your own leader by 1 and deal 1 damage to the enemy leader.

Sky Spirit
>Haven
>Fanfare: give another allied follower charge

>Grimoire Interpretation (no idea how to translate this well)
>Neutral (Spell)
>Draw 3 cards

Ghost's Banquet
>Shadow
>Countdown (2), Fanfare: add 13 shadows
>Last word: your shadow count becomes 0

Summon Icy Idol
>Rune (spell)
>Summon a Freeze Golem (Card on the right)

Freeze Golem (token)
>Ward, Can't attack
>At the end of the opponent's turn, destroy this card.

Dragoncall Flute
>Dragon
>Fanfare: if overflow is active, transform all cards with 3 cost or lower in your hand into Hellflame Dragon (card on the right)
>If overflow is active, when you draw a card with 3 cost or lower, transform it into a Hellflame Dragon

Hellflame Dragon (Token)
>Charge
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>Purgatory "nerfs" keep on indirectly killing my non-purgatory forestcraft decks
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>>155023527

the card can only be generated by the amulet, and the amulet only works if you are in overflow so no you are just being stupid
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>>155023931
thanks for the translation.
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>>155024172
something about having my minions bounced makes me angrier than having them destroyed
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>>155019270
That's a free gold of your choice then when you chump it for vials.
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>>155021625
>Shadow Purg
>It self destructs after 2 turns lowering your shadows to 0
>You get tops 2 turns of it then you lose.
Why would Shadow do that? Much more likely you'll see Deathly Tyrant decks surface up
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>>155024951
They're in your hand now and you have to pay again, and if you run shadow like me you don't get shadows or Last Rites.
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>>155020756
Did you update to iOS 10?
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>>155025696

i'm on android
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http://imgur.com/a/eG3zS

Imagedump from today's TB art stream. Colored Amerpact^, Shaplar^ and Raprow^, but STILL no sign of Bahl^. Fucking tease. At least there's some twin-drills in there. With that fuckton of sidestory art for months, you'd think it's about time something comes out of it...

Supposedly there was some talk about Luck as well. Apparently there will be ways to boost Luck more easily through otomos and through dailies, but for 4.3 the team is busy working towards that yet-to-be-revealed mystery collab first.

Also Sakaguchi got fucked pulling CoT twice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0JmHMArYOw
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>>155026340
I dunno then, I've been crashing like crazy and assumed it was the software update. Maybe shadowverse just needs to get it's shit together.
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i made a pastebin with all the darkness evolved cards we know so far, these are from the official site and the japanese wiki (which apparently got them from a magazine scan or something)

http://pastebin.com/TbsvEZ1Z
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>>155027048
Alexander isn't dragon
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>>155027304

whoops, you are right, it's swordcraft

http://pastebin.com/9ZNBizQN
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>>155027553
>>155027048
>Vania
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>>155027634
dont use it then
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I am so fucking SICK of PtP
PtP Rune
PtP Forest
I sure fucking love to play games where everything I play is returned to my hand or removed for 8 straight turns until I literally can't play anything at all and watch as I die
Such a fucking well-designed card
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>>155028498
Calm down, anon. Cygames is nerfing Homecoming. After that, PtP will be fun to play against.
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>>155028596
They aren't doing shit to PtP Rune, which is an even worse offender in my opinion
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>>155028664
But PtP Rune is frustrating in the fun, challenging kind of way!
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>>155017783
I just hope it gets localized, since the story has always been a strong/unique point to God Eater over Monster Hunter.
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>>155028664
>losing to PtP Rune
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>>155028841
I just want PtP removed from the game. It has almost 0 counterplay since it's all on the opponent's side and it's still a guaranteed board clear even if you have an amulet removal.
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>>155028498
Just use execution man
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the worst part about ptp decks are the alternate burst win conditions
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>>155029093
>generic anime shit
>strong story

I played the shit out of GEB and even I think the story is nothing noteworthy.
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>tfw all 3 missions are 40+ rupies and are all for the same craft
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>tfw it's another arena 5 wins using swordcraft episode
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>>155029631
Its a lot better then Monster Hunter's story which never makes any freaking sense. How that world hasn't been consumed by the monsters is beyond me yet when its full of incompetents.
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>>155030247
You might be confusing story for setting. I couldn't stand the cheesy melodrama that GE's plot had, which was something that MH never had to bother with because it didn't matter. That being said, GE has an interesting base setting what with world being consumed by some kind of superpowered cancer.
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>>155028498
Purgatory decks are fine seen as its very difficult to reach 30 shadows
Cygames even said it themselves so it must be true
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>>155031015
altered fate was a mistake
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>>155031015
If they just made altered fate not add shadows, PtP would be fine
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Shilling puzzle of empire. It's a connect dots game while you position your units on a board as well.It has live pvp and the dailies give out quite a bit of gems, but I don't jnownif that's because it just released. It has all girls if youre that type of person.
Does anyone know what you're suppose to do with the yellow thing? Not sure how to spend them or upgrade these plots of land in the town.
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>>155031124
fine as in unplayable yeah
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>>155031124
If they added a follower that took shadows from yourself and the opponent for buffs, that would fix everything
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>>155031241
>Civilization 6.png
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>>155031292
that would be broken and auto include in everything
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>>155031262
Exactly
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>>155030705
Not sure Aragami are like cancer, more then like... Kirby cells? I mean, they take on the properties of the things they eat and can eat basically anything
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>Just lost two take-two games in a row from my opponent topdecking Satan in a board position I couldn't otherwise lose
Jesus fuck why is this card allowed in take-two.
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>>155031604
satan is a n00b trap and everybody that doesn't top out at one or two 7-8 drops is a pleb, how did you lose to someone who purposely put satan in their deck?
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>>155031390
Here's a shitty idea that isn't an autoincludes in every deck:
6 mana 3/4
At the end of your turn, take 2 of your shadows and 1 from the opponent and gain +1/+1

The wording might need work, though.
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>>155031790
>n00b trap
>game-winning neutral late game card if you're not already about to lose in a slower format
Yeah okay, whatever you say.
Also I was playing haven and my only win condition was out-valuing my opponents. People say Haven is good in take-two but I'm really not seeing it at all, I've never gone more than 3 wins with haven despite getting 4+ wins consistently with other classes.
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>>155031790
If you're playing havencraft or blood in take two it is actually a pretty good idea
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>>155032160
Rune, Forest, and Dragon can also make very good use of it.
Basically if you're not playing aggro there's no downside to picking up satan because he can just win you games outright. If your deck has a decent curve and some removal and you can survive till the late game satan is always a great end-game card. He's not even close to a trap, you just need to understand what kind of deck you've drafted, and if you can first pick him then you can build a slower deck that can make use of him.
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>>155031241
seems fun gonna try it. Anything i need to know before starting out?
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>>155032689
There are people that play rune in take two?
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>>155033332
maybe the other options where haven and forest
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>>155033004
Not really, I'm going in blind after an anon posted the game once. I think you get about 9 rolls worth of gems in the beginning from the release event. If you roll the gach you'll probably want a unit that goes to 5* but in the beginning units higher rarity doesn't do much stat wise because they only get strong after you level them quite a bit. I have a 5* legendary napolean and she only has 200more health and 40more attack at level 7 than my level 1 2* napolean
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>>155032689
I've won games by playing satan in sword, there is no deck that can't make use of him in take two.
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woooooooooooow bugged draw mechanics haha
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>>155033332
Rune is not bad in take two because of the wide variety of removal if they draft well. Juno, Erasmus, Mythril Golem, and Alchemical Lore are very strong in T2.
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>>155033332
Rune is secretly great. They have great removal, strong minions, good late game and early game options, and a lot of in-class synergies.
Just don't try and draft spellboost; earth rite is the key to victory. If you pick up an Ancient Alchemist or two especially she can win you games all by herself
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>>155033979
Amulets aren't Spells
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>>155034759
Yeah, I know that.
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It's funny how dmm's shadowverse advertising campaign is basically showing off the cards with the most tits and seems to strangely focus on Midnight Vampire. I don't have the image, but it has Midnight Vampire as the main focus with a closeup of her tits in front of Isabelle. Another image was just closeups of tits and Midnight Vampire was again the first one ahead of Isabelle.

I bet the US release on steam will take the entirely opposite approach.
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GF gets stuck loading for 2 minutes+ its fucking awful
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>>155022153
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>>155035085
It's a porn site. Of course it will show the most titties.
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mumi
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This newer SE game looks cute

http://9-bit.jp/archives/246786
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>>155038146
>SE game
Don't get too attached.
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>Nexon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUgcfCuIoX4
It feels like it could be another Fantasy War Tactics, but extra weeb
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Haha all my rolls finally paid off
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>>155041768
I hope you're happy because she's your waifu since she's not a very good MG.
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>>155041768
>look into game
>no p90
0/10 dead before starting
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>>155041768
i rcrafted like 4 different 5*s and 5 hk already. fuck this.
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>>155042369
She's on par with M1918 who is pretty much #2 in dps
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>>155039828
I need this in my veins now
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>>155042815
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>>155043532
a few threads ago some anon posted a picture saying the exact opposite
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>>155045074
Yeah, damage per cycle. MGs shoot 2-3 cycles over the course of a fight and MG4 has the highest atk spd meaning she reloads the quickest and has the highest damage up-time.
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>>155001765
you should be looking at the games that have their own generals then surely?
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>Aggro Shadowcraft draws all 3 Cerberus in the first 14 cards of their deck
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>Cygames fucks up so bad in their other games they have to award players with a free 10-roll, lots of stamina recovery items, gacha crystals and half off every battle for a couple days.

So how long til they fuck up this badly in Shadowverse? What would they even give for compensation?
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>>155048520
They're trying their hardest not to nerf a consistent 60% win rate combo deck in masters rank. This is as big of a fuck up in a card game as it gets, especially the retarded class locked ones that render all cards outside the OP classes useless.

At least in MTG, and YGO, some cards being OP don't literally render other cards unplayable. Have you seen the Haven and PtP Rune/Shift matchup? 70%+ in favor of Rune, why even bother keeping the class in the game at that point? The same goes for control Blood, which has an unwinnable match up against the Forest PtP, but is surviving solely due to its good Sword matchup.
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>>155045013
What's S?
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>>155048520
You simply can't make such grand fuckup due to the nature of SV gameplay.
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>>155050056
The commander's head
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>>155048520
What did they do in their other games? I don't play them.
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>>155050536
i know. i was wondering what it stands for. Sergeant?
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>>155045013
what's it say
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Haven't played mobage in 6 months what's up?
What's hot?
Game of Dice became super jew it seems
Haven't checked on other mobages I was playing but it seems like I can't update fantasica
Also what made it into the store? I don't like quoapp very much
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>>155050569
They added a team game mode in Granblue Fantasy and royally fucked it up in every way possible.
Gave leader positions to low levels/inactive players, fucked up score calculations, awarded the winner prizes to losing teams, didn't shuffle teams after every round, etc.

In the end, they cancelled it and decided to just bribe the players so they forget about this massive fuckup.

I hope they one day fuck up this bad in Shadowverse so we get stuff like 50 free packs or some shit.
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>>155050626
says at the top S = 指揮官
it means commander
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>>155050569
Aside from the game glitching, it's just their badluck.
>introduced a new event, 3 way faction fight
>each player logging in to the event is automatically assigned to one faction randomly
>either randomizer fucked up or it coincidentally assigned strong people into one faction
>one faction kicked the ass of the other two
>day 2 : the 2 factions goes on strike and refused to play

There's also numerous glitches but that's basically the main beef.
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>>155045013
>written in chinese
>hiragana for the sound effects
? ? ?
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>>155051082
Sommander?
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What are the esports characters for the new bghs and shironeko gachs?
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>>155052173
>bghs
none of them
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>>155031241
So the yellow thing is food and it basically works as stamina I think.
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Creeping up, little by little
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>>155052173
>Shironeko
Fran. Most of the other girls and Nemo seem alright too

>BGHS
In the idol-shit gacha, still just mute Renge, but Kanon and Sadone might be useful to have.
Bunny Kokomi and Grieving Shiho in the other gachas if you're insane enough to roll something without guarantees.
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>>155050056
>>155050785
>>155051209
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>>155052795
I'm tempted to start being American and give my votes to Haruka. Everyone else is too far behind.
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>>155050857
Anyone?
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>>155053448
I doubt we'll make much of a difference. It's a battle for the moons
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>>155052795
Got her eyes on the prize
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>>155053328
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>>155053448
I'm still giving mine to Anko.

But I got my present schoolwork done and I have other events to grind now, so I'm not giving very many of them.
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>>155054498
You shouldn't trust guns.
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>>155055132
I finished gift schoolwork forever ago but got ~65 gems and 6 weapon crystals from battles and solo lesson work by spamming so far. Mostly from using up 2x boosts when I remember.
But I need a more braindead approach for the hardest level, I have to switch between actives and don't want to transform every run.
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New cards
Neutral with 3 damage to all when evolved?
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>>155057446
Maid Leader for Officers.
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>>155057446
Even itself?
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>>155057659
That's what it sounds like.

Countdown of 2. Draw a card during the end of your turn. Every time you use a necromancy effect, the countdown is delayed.
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>>155057624
Whoops, didn't actually read the card.
She adds two officers to the hand.
Seems pretty sweet.
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How do all of you resist the urge to roll at bad times/excessively? I feel like I have to constantly battle my impulses to ensure I only roll in my best interests. Do you just turn the game off?
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>>155058921
Remember you're not gambling real money and that these are ultimately just games, bad and life sucking ones at that. That if you get a bad result and want to quit the game, it's not actually a horrible idea.

Unless you actually whale, then you should probably contact your bank or something to forbid certain types of charges on yourself so you stop whaling.
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And not sure if this card was posted, but Dragon is getting a class specific card that looks like it'll attempt to replace Satan.

Summon a 5/5 with Storm at the start of your turn.
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Loli get!
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>>155056396
I was just spamming jellyfish for it.

But that meant I had to choose between Birthday Renge bonus votes or weapon crystals. I picked Renge.

But then I forgot about the 2x boosts for most of it, would've got more with that.
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>>155058921
It honestly depends on the game?

In BGHS I can resist the urge to roll on gachas I dont like or outside guarantees for example.

In Granblue I find it super easy to resist the urge to roll outside legfest (2x rates event). I'm even saving 300 rolls to get a character I want guaranteed.

In shironeko I had pretty bad self control and always had to farm more gems.

In girls frontline I constantly spam crafts but started to slow down and save. Then they gave us this rate up event and all the tickets I saved went down the drain.
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>>155059221
thats pretty good advice, I'm pretty much an anti-whale who has never paid micro-transactions in any f2p game but just quitting when you get fucked over hard is something I have a real hard time doing, I guess I get caught in the old sunk cost fallacy thought loop and dont want to lose the time I already invested.
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>>155059427
>already have lizard-loli
>still want to get her
>my Amina is 100% SB though

Feels like a decision I might regret somewhere along the way, but I could see her being more useful than her lizard rival in quite a few situations, as well as the possibility of running both on some future maps.

Guess I can wait until MZ7 is in the arena come Tuesday and I might have farmed a few more Hisos for some extra Luck.
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>>155058921
I've learned that I absolutely have to pace out rolls if I feel like I'm getting dicked.

Exceptions have been Dragon Ace gacha, Shironeko Weapon gacha, and PaD bait gacha. The tyranny of shit rolls never end with those so I frequently found myself rolling a ton trying to get something good out of it instead of waiting for another time to get reamed - since the outcome would be the same.

I have pretty good self-control in BGHS ever since guarantees became a thing and my own stupid ass rituals. But that will be tested in the upcoming birthdays.

Anyway, best would be to drop the mentality of
>My rolls are shit so my chances should turn around soon
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>>155060747
Yeah, something to keep in mind is that the point of a game isn't to accrue "value". It's to spend your time while hopefully having fun or some other pleasant feeling you get out of the game.

Mobages are frequently mediocre skinnerboxes without significant depth and a whole bunch of downsides meant to slowly draw you into throwing all your money at them.

Mobages also frequently "devalue" your old things through powercreep while offering constant events that accumulate everything slowly and make you feel behind if you miss any. You get stuck on a hamster wheel.

Then you realize that if you quit the game properly, it truly doesn't matter. It won't erase the time spent, but that holds for every game you've played in your life and anything else you've done as well.

Whole bunch of maximum rarity units/cards/whatevers fully limit broken/evolved/transcended? What does it matter when new better shit is always releasing? It definitely doesn't matter anywhere outside the game either.

Also, no game is forever. The servers will come down eventually.
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>>155058921
A lot of the time, I don't. For games I care less about, I'll just roll whenever. Which helps get the rolling urge out of my system for the ones I do care about.

It also depends on how much benefit I'm getting out of saving. If it's just a +1 then I often won't bother, but guarantees like BGHS or limited-availability stuff like Shironeko give a lot more motivation to stock up.

Also sometimes useful is setting yourself a limit for a particular gacha. I usually break mine, but it's still useful to have.

And if there's another revealed gacha that I want coming up, I tell myself that a roll now is a roll that I can't do there.
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the titanfall TCG is out but seriously between nexon being the publisher and the theme being some stupid FPS no one but normie give a fuck about, does anyone give a fuck?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwGuZSne_qI
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>>155060498
Jellyfish never really did much on its own for me. Before the new map opened, it was easiest to clear that map with whatever I had with storm.
I've been using rod teams for the lone cheerleader map, so could've used birthday Renge.

But like the other anon said, this is Japan's fight, so I shouldn't fret too much about my paltry contribution.
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>>155058921
>How do all of you resist the urge to roll at bad times/excessively?
I don't...
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How do you delete save data fom your google play account? I've cleared cahce, deleted data on phone, unlinked from facebook and google drive, but I can't get the damn data to disappear.
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How does dark damage work in Shironeko?
It always does a fixed amount of damage?

The Detective sword girl's skill 1 has an effect that lowers attribute defense and her skill 2 lets her do dark damage.
Is the dark damage affected by the attribute resistance debuff?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg9UNWXsFc4
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>>155064847
>4000LP

whats the point
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>>155064847
It actually looks pretty good
Nice to see theyre using the original cards and
none of that Synchro / XYZ / Pendulum summon shit or whatever its called
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>>155064847
>3 monster zones

It's shit
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>>155064847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFmrhqbD1nA

Yes.
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>>155061550
Wasted 2 years of my life on Valkyrie Crusade and dropped like $300 on it.

Didn't actually regret it aside from the money spent since it got me through some tough times during school.
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>>155066330
BGHS is cheaper than medicine alternatives
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mumi
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>>155058065
>Necromancy support
I'm fucking loving these new Shadowcraft amulets.
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>Want Tsukimi and Fran the most
>Get Tsukimi on my first 10+1 roll
>Get Fran from a cheeky single roll after that
It is worth to keep rolling for more characters? Or should I save for upcoming stuff?
I wanted to spent 1000 gems, but not sure anymore since already got the cutiest characters.
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Pon is going to give me diabetes with her obnoxious adorableness. Has anyone played long enough to have her old version? There was a reference to a construction tanuki in her story but they didn't really explain the significance.

>>155070892
Don't get greedy. I'd save for weapon rolls if you won't be able to exchange.
I wonder if anyone swears by singles in Shironeko. The +1 is barely seems worth it.
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>Arisa cosplaying as Vampy

This artist has some really great taste in girls
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>>155070892
I'm stopping at Tsukimi, even though I was hoping to get some of the other girls with her.

But I'm also trying to not spend too much, after I put an extra 750 into not getting Rena.
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>>155073017
I got Tsukimi and Mizeri.

I'm hoping Tsukimi will end up being the best one in this set, since the last couple sets, the characters I pulled always ended up being the best of the set (Tomoe, Rena, Kuranyi)
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>>155073017
>Decide to stop at Tsukimi on the chaguma gacha
>spent 5000+ gems
>got all the characters but her
Thank god I got her fast this time.
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This is it. Last 4 tickets before rate up ends. Will I get G36C?
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>>155073525
Probably not
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I've been cheated.
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>>155073813
>1:30 and 1:20

Looks like my SMG crafts
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Any hints here 1
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>>155072886
>Fang
Looks like she became a vampire.
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Any hints here? 2
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>>155074253
Its a Vampy cosplay so she had to go the whole way

Maybe cygames will stop nerfing her if she flees to Bloodcraft.
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For the few anons that played Rage of Bahamut, Vampy's little brother recently became a playable character in Granblue fantasy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_y1ygz-OAM

A few anons played that here and showed interest so linking a video that shows the interactions they have in battle here. No idea if Veight will ever make it to Shadowverse considering he's not that popular.
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>>155074169
>>155074416
Replace Grant with IS2
Use cabin for memefantry LAV. If you can, replace 234/3 with others that have more cabin slots. M3 or even 251/1 is fine.
R35 is fine, you might want to get better lighties with more bino slots.
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>>155076432
Thanks
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>>155076432
Which lighties would you recommend?
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http://g.e-hentai.org/g/976297/a0a655a367/

Asuha yes
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>>155076592
Also, at that stage, I'd rather use armor plates over reactive armors.
>>155076746
Covenanter is good. 5 slots, sloped chassis, and QF AP/APDS.
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>>155074169
>>155074416
I'm guessing the Grant, 234/3 and Hetzer were forge rolls? I'd have to know what you are shooting for tank wise or what you are having trouble with to give any advice beyond the general:

More plates, propellant, rammers. Stop with the detectors and torsion bars.
Don't mix roles unless you know exactly what you are doing. Make your defense tougher and your offense hit harder with their primo slots.
If you want stealth use camo (ideal) or suppressors (if absolutely necessary)
if you want to use a periscope or reactive armor put a single higher level one on your HTs. Low level ones spread around are garbage.
If you really need that many evacuators to stop missing you need to pump chasis hard.
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>>155076819
Damn that took forever to make its way there.
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>>155077453
Hetzer, grant, 234/3 and su-8 were forge rolls yes and i was aiming for is2-m and tiger 17 no idead if they are good though (m6a2 was from bwm)
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>>155078048
The camo was because su-8 usually max the aggro bar in one shoot, detectors, periscopes etc for the first turn advantage and the torsion bar is only for 234/3 otherwise it gets OHKO
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If I already got Kanon I shouldn't hit the idol gacha again right? It's taunting me with its siren's call and I need some negative reinforcement.
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>>155079898
You mean Rouge don't you?
The ones in the cabaret outfits right?
You'll get Yuri

I think you should hold out for next set, but they're your gems and if you're new, you still have a heap of story left and could probably use some more 4-stars for variety.
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>>155080819
yeah I feel like I could use a melee character to complete the "triangle" relatively, just using gun for animals and magic for ghosts is pretty good right now but I take a hilarious amount of damage when I get hit/surrounded so I kinda want some cleave that isnt skill based. But its probably best to just wait as you say, gotta be patient.
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>>155074761
Who is that fuccboi?

Is my Vania not pure anymore?
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>>155082752
Looks like the shitposters woke up

Go away
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>>155082805
Kill yourself.

Also, anyone else think the new Darkness Evolved expansion might make Shadow OP? It seems to be getting some really good synergy cards that we know so far.

Also, Humpty Dumpty is looking to be a hard counter to Sword.
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Portia-Backup Infantry
Norena-Aimed Strike(missed)
Bobbi-Do not know as I can never manage to get her to survive since she has crap stealth and gets one shot.
Louisa-Ignition Shooting(hits two, gives ignition debuff though I don't know what it does. Enemy didn't take damage upon firing.)
Olivia-Aux Bunkers(reactive armor on everybody)
Polina-Air Support(slight damage to all enemies and possible combustion chance)
Cecile-Backup Infantry
Alyssa-Laser

I wonder how long it will be before skills get implemented. Backup Infantry seems nice.

Also, has anybody managed to see Bobbi survive long enough to use her skill?
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>>155083821
What's with this new meme about how much support Shadow is getting? They haven't even announced any particularly good cards for them. Some nice ones, yes, but nothing that would boost them from where they are in T2 to even getting near PtP, let alone overtaking Midrange Sword.
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>>155084749
But necro is t1
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>>155084749
Aggro Shadow is actually Tier 1 right now with Dragon, Sword and PtP Forest.

I do agree that Shadow isn't getting very strong support, but neither is Sword and PtP Forest is getting nerfed. It's hard to tell how much of a difference Dragon's new cards make. They seem to be more akin to small changes for individual deck variety rather than the changes that Fairy Forest and Rune are getting.
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Another FF game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq2o2ONfh2E

New rhythm game BanG Dream! from Bushimo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PbzlsYGrF8
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Can someone fill me in on the Evangelion x Shin Godzilla collaboration/spinoff? Why are they fighting Godzilla or is it just marketing?
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>>155084749
Shadow is already t1, faggot.
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>>155082231
3-stars are passable for most content if you want someone to switch to.
But like your 4-stars, they're going to be best at max level with max level subs. In fact, I don't think you should have many issues if you get some max level 3-star subs under your 4-stars.
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>>155085219
Anno wants to advertise his new Godzilla film using NGEs popularity in massive collaborative campaign. Movie itself has nothing to do with Evangelion.
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another tankfu game

looks neat
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>>155035085
How is she bending that bod like that?
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>>155086024
Japanese people have anime body physics
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>>155085550
subs as in sub cards right? do those get xp if they're attached to another card or do I have to train them myself? I've been having them do the training sessions to pump them up and to do that they have to be the main and thus unsubbable unless I missed something. Right now I'm prioritizing getting my 4 stars to max so once that happens I'll have them start tagging along to leech xp from there as well.
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>>155085204
Those character designs look ready for anime already.
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>check PV
>zero gameplay mechanics

Evbrytime.
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Plane boobs is pretty much a carbon copy of ChinkColle but I can't read these runes so I'm still lost with some of the stats and route requirements, and it cycles away from them so fast that its hard to get a good screenshot to try to translate
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>>155086834
You can use any card for subs. The sub-only cards need exp seals from items or exp transfer using tickets.

But if your 4-stars aren't max, then you need to prioritize that first.
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>>155087701
ye thats what I thought, thanks chief
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>>155086973
Just believe in xebec
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Too much booty
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>>155088375
no such thing
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>Win single match as Forest daily
I was concerned since Forest is my weakest deck, but the first person I played was a Blood player who played Soul Dealer on curve and evolved him.

I have no idea what he was thinking as I immediately pixie mischiefed it then evolved a fairy and hit him. He was simply to burst down with a Rhino afterwards.

Thank you, Soul Dealer.
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>>155088375
>Staring at butts
>Lots of weapon/outfit upgrade materials
I almost don't even wanna bother with the mission part.
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>>155088773
Soul Dealer is fun, one time some blood used 3 of them in a row and then i finished him by suiciding Rabbitmancers
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>guild comprised of literal who's, /mbgg/ stragglers, and f2p scum
>tfw beat the reigning rank 1 guild so bad because strats
>they rage quit out of shame, and various other reasons

Feels unreal man. The f2p dream come true.
>inb4 ded gaem
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>>155090142
Is this really unison league? How is the game these days?

I had fun with it when it was a FOTM and even went full autism to get the best possible reroll but had to disappear for a few months and when I got back literally everyone had dropped it and it didn't even get a mention.
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I have awful luck with these SP Guests sometimes. Seduction is, far as I know, completely worthless because Entertainers hardly matter.

And then she even has higher Waiter and Chef stats anyway... really wish you could change Talents somehow... hopefully I can get some more useful 5* SP Guests...
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>>155090274
It's gone full blown p2w honestly, would not recommend going back/10. At this point lvl cap in JP is 140, and the level grind is so atrocious you're pretty much forced to buy exp keys with gems to speed up the process. As a f2p it's becoming almost impossible to catch up.

Additionally, they've added collab events which are literally p2w, the only way to compete is to burn gems for keys to access quests for massive point gains. And this is on top of tie-up bonus gear you need be lucky to spawn for.

Honestly only reason I'm sticking around for the community, I've got a great guild and enjoy their company.
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Does the composite armor + engine bonus get the Tiger II's fire resistance high enough that I don't have to worry about it? or do I have to use something to boost it. The only thing that can go in external is the lubricant I think.
Having only one internal spot fucking blows.
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>>155090626
That sucks

I'd consider playing it again if it was actually fun or good but I'm still kind of sad I missed the golden age of this game.

How many guys from mbgg still play?
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>>155091120
Actually, I've never been in any of the /mbgg/ guilds, I mostly lurked. Porygon, Qiong, Meowfin are with us and Ceedee still plays.
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>>155091334
I didn't need the names as I don't remember anyone but good to see people from /mbgg/ still play some of the Old FOTMs.
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>>155090627
Generally most battles, your tanking tanks will only fire twice, during the second shelling phase and contact. So fire resistance in general isn't honestly too much of a worry.

They're likely to be the least priority for firing for the first shelling stage. As well as the last to fire in the CQB phase. Your damage dealers are likely to finish the battle before they fire in CQB.

Internal Slots on Heavy Tanks generally have three uses, Binoculars for more detection, Extinguishers for Fire Resistance, and Fuel Filters/Wet Racks for Crit resistance.

Unless you particularly notice Tiger getting destroyed by fire or criticals, you're generally safe sticking binoculars on. In raid, criticals can be vicious and completely decimate HP bars despite normal shots just pinging. However, you only need to worry about that when you get to that point and the exercise function allows you to freely retry raid stages without penalty so it's simple to adjust and test loadouts.
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>>155065673
is this really possible why does such a broken deck even exist
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>>155002258
i have 600$ in this game and i still play it
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More new cards.

Not female, not interested.
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>>155092095
BUT WHAT DOES IT SAY?!
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>>155092095
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>>155092202
I think it's something like take 10 damage is 11 or above health, recover 10 health if 9 health or below.
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>>155092095
Tried to roughly translate it, I wanna say it makes both leaders' HP become 10 - as in, it'll heal or deal damage to bring you and your opponent's life total to 10. Could be totally wrong though.
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>>155092342
>>155092224
>>155092095
Where are you getting these if you don't mind me asking? I'm not seeing these on the JP twitter, is there another way to find new cards?
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>>155092202
Bring both leaders to 10 health (via heal if lower and damage if higher)
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>>155092202

Set both leaders to 10 health.
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>>155092473
https://twitter.com/GameAI_jp
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>>155092202
>>155092095
Set all leader's HP to 10. If you have 9, you recovers +1, if you have 11, you get 1 damage.
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>>155091738
Well that's good to hear. I think I'm over sensitive on the fire part because I used the freebie event A42 as my main HT from vol 4 to vol 23. Back in vol 4 with nothing even a bad glance would set her on fire.

I just tried taking off my wet rack and running a ton of maps with burning enemies and she was fine too.
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>>155092224
6 Shadows to summon a lich on evolve,
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>>155092653
Heavies in general have weak fire resistance, so just suck it up.
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>>155092224
This is hella strong. +2/+2 boost on the evo AND summon a 4/4 for just 6 shadows?
Too bad it'd probably never see play since the only viable Shadowcraft is aggro
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>>155092342
what does this one here do?
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>>155093168
Remove all followers with <=2 health.
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>>155092342
Countdown of 1.
Last Word:
Banish? all followers with 2 or less health on the opponents side.
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>>155093218
all enemy's*
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>>155093218
>>155093230
For 3 mana too, Haven seems to have gotten an easy out against aggro decks. Not sure if this really pushes it into greatness but its a start.
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Can't the shadowversefags get their own thread already?
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>>154990643
>>Remember to REPORT and IGNORE shitposters instead of giving them the attention they want and helping them shit up the thread.
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>>155093590
fuck off
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I'm only at b2 and am going against people with the A rank symbol how is this fair
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If you have 20 health, playing Azazel with Bloody Mary on the field is an otk.

Probably not practical to focus on that combo, but might be something cool to keep in mind.
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>>155093824
Life's not fair, bud.
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>>155092775
...that seems like ludicrous value considering she gets normal +2/2 on evolve. 10/11 worth of stats across two bodies on turn 5. The only board clears ready by that time will be Fire Chain, Foul Tempest, and Revelation under vengeance.

Though Remi and Rami are similar thinking about it.

Everybody's getting their own Floral Fencer it seems.

And Sword gets another Otohime thinking about it.

>>155093138
It's extremely insane board pressure if managed on curve and with board advantage. Though after thinking about it, there's several counters from an empty board state. Rune with a sufficiently spellboosted counter can manage something, Fire Chain, Lightning Shooter, and Fiery Embrace. Sword can utilize either Tsubaki or Swordsman. Blood has a lot of options under vengeance, but I don't think any without. If Haven has 1st turn, Death Sentence comboed with Hallowed Dogma can work. Forest could evolve a 3 cost 2/3 to kill the lich then bounce it with pixie mischief to bounce the 6/7.

Dragon and Shadow I don't think have any immediate counters.

Though thinking about it, Shadow could play Lesser Mummy then Madame Lich and ram both if they had 10 shadows.
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>>155094019
It's unlikely you'll have the shadows for her turn 5 if playing normally as people are now.

Seems like it was build for the new amulet.
Throw that down turn 3, do something turn 4, and throw her down turn 5.
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>>155093892
Depends on the order of things, and if the game waits for card effects to resolve before declaring game over.
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>>155093590
How about you go make your own /mobage minus shadowverse general/ and stay there, you waste of life. We'll come over when it's done, trust us
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Darkness Evolved seems like it's going to be Shadow and Blood's golden age since they're getting all the best cards with incredible value on aggro and midrange.

As a Haven and Forest main, I can't deny I'm a little bit assblasted.
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>>155094157
According to the game system now. This is confused a little bit by the fix for Holy Sentinel, but I think that's only a very specific case.

Bloody Mary's effect would only activate after Azazel resolves, doing however much health you lost after you opponent's health is set to 10.

>>155094236
I don't know how you can be unhappy with the cards Forest is getting. Forest and Rune are getting the best cards, followed by Blood. I would put Shadow near the bottom according to what they've revealed so far.
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>>155094236
http://shadowverse攻略速報.com/%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89/%E3%80%90%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%89%E3%82%A6%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%80%91%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AF%E3%83%8D%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BB%E3%82%A8%E3%83%9C%E3%83%AB%E3%83%B4%E3%81%AE%E6%96%B0%E3%82%AB/

If this site's spoilers are right. Forest's getting a 2 cost Athena whose fanfare also lasts the enemy's turn as well.
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>>155094539
That card doesn't include combat damage, it just protects from effects.
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I started playing for about a week, and I have been lucky enough to open 2 Otohimes and a Cerberus. I have 2500 dust right now from liquefying duplicates. I'm thinking about making the move towards midrange with my Sword deck by crafting an Aurelia when I do get the dust I need, or a Cerberus so that I can cobble together a Shadow aggro deck. Thoughts?

>>155093590
I wish that could be the case, but considering this thread has been up over 24 hours shows the fan base is far too small for us to have our own general.
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>>155094539
>Forest's getting a 2 cost Athena whose fanfare also lasts the enemy's turn as well.
But Athena's fanfare already persists into the enemy's turn?
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>>155094539
Only for ability effects.
Which is still very, very good considering it's stats and cost.
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Reminder to pull the idol gatcha
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>>155094575
>>155094706
Oh, well that's still kind of hilarious against Spellboost Rune thinking about it. Play it 3 times in a row while building board.

Or is it specifically effects from followers?
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>>155094501
>I don't know how you can be unhappy with the cards Forest is getting.
Why would I be happy with them? They're trying to push for a shitty midrange with no combo after Homecoming just got gutted into the trash.

Silver Bolt is probably going to still be the most viable option.
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>>155094706
She can combo with Humpty Dumpty.
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>>155094809
Now that would be hilarious

Clear their board while keeping yours
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>>155094761
Its probably all card effects but doesnt include combat damage so yeah, it might be a giant fuck you to rune
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>>155094809
>Humpty Dumpty
I play Sword and I have a feeling this is going to fuck us over pretty bad to the point of unplayability.

In Masters everyone is already gearing their decks around countering Sword, now literally every deck is going to have a soft-answer.
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>>155095002
and so the meta develops
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>>155095002
That one shitposter must be orgasming over the idea of Dragon getting even stronger and Sword getting fucked
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>>155094768
So you just don't like playing midrange?
Lots of aggro Swords made the jump to midrange. They're going to be the new Sword, with answers for the cards they're adding to try to weaken the old sword. They even got their own Sage Commander.
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>>155095228
Which one is their sage commander?
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>>155095228
>So you just don't like playing midrange?
No, I'm saying from what we've seen midrange forest will be suboptimal at best, mediocre at worst.
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>>155095279
Elf Knight Cynthia.

>>155095403
I'm going to disagree. The general consensus I seem to have from the japanese sites is that Forest seems like it'll be one of the best decks.

When the game first came out, Most people saw Forest as a midrange deck. Elder Treant was considered a staple. Now, we're basically getting a Elder Treant on Steroids.
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>>155094690
No
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>>155094950
It doesn't include direct damage from followers, or spells. Only follower effects, or amulet effects.
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>>155095092
I don't know why more people don't complain about Dragon when it's problematic as fuck. In a game with an HP pool of 20, having a class with tons of beefy storm minions and ramp is just such a ridiculous concept.

If your class doesn't have strong wards or a faster win condition, you're basically fucked.
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>>155096360
Cygames isn't exactly known for being good at balancing their games so I'd say its pretty par for the course.
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>>155095604
>When the game first came out, Most people saw Forest as a midrange deck.
That doesn't refute what I said: that it's a shitty midrange. There's a reason why dragon, sword, and even shadow midranges are much more popular and consistent. There's also a reason why midrange Forest fell off and PtP/combo became such strong staples instead.
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>>155096360
Not disagreeing with you but the thing is, if you're playing any of the high tier decks, they do have fast win conditions and/or wards, such as Aggro Shadow, Mid Sword and Purg Forest. It just further dumpsters the decks that are lower tier.
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>>155096539
Midrange dragon doesn't struggle with aggro as much as you think. Yeah, it doesn't have something ridiculous like the PtP vs Haven matchup, but it's not bad either.
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>>155096539
I think with sword getting countered by Humpty dumpty and Forest getting their Homecoming tossed into the garbage can, Dragon will have its time as the #1 deck.

I really hope Dragon becomes the #1 craft and deck so cygames finally looks at it and says "Hey, maybe we overdid it"
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I'm liking the new Necromancy supports being added, but I really hope they'll add some minion/amulet sacrifice too. Particularly amulet sacrifice, so we can actually play all these new amulets in something other than Deathly Tyrant decks.
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>>155095002
now skeleton knight is even more OP
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>>155096595
I am mainly getting my observations from here http://syadoreco.com/metareports/deck/29/week/all/2016/36/t/.

This is for the popular storm variant of dragon, it's pretty unfavored against Aggro Shadow and Aggro Sword, and on second inspection I shouldn't have mentioned Purg Forest as a threat to the deck.
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Is midrange sword good enough to reach masters
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>>155096808
What's the storm variant of dragon? I am only aware of midrange as the t1 version.
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>>155097335
I was confused about that at first too, it seems this site has the one with the Forte + Urd combo and Genesis Dragon down as Sprint Dragon, and Midrange Dragon is something completely different, so i've decided to refer to it differently.
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>>155087642
You talking about Ace Virgin? Really dissapointed in the combat scenes. If your game is an autobattler with no interaction at least make the figths worthwhile to watch with cool and cute animations or something. Especially if you're making game about fictional anime girl jets then you could make them do all sorts of cool shit. Also UI that's functional and pleasant to look at is a MUST in autobattlers since that's pretty much 100% how you interact with the game and I think this game lacks that.

Those things combined with the fact that Girls Frontline is damn good made me uninstall after 15 minutes.
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>humpty dumpty is going to make sword shit
>when foul tempest does the same thing for 1 PP less, 1 evolution point less and without wiping your own board too
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>>155097425
Sounds kind of weird they'd make that distinction since Midrange Dragon runs all of the storm cards anyways...
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>>155097908
Foul tempest requires 6 shadows and is limited to shadowcraft
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>>155097908
>Because why would you ever run multiple cards that do the same thing
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>>155097908
>Foul Tempest is Shadow
>Humpty Dumpty is Neutral

Use your brain, Anon.
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>>155096808
Are there any English sites I can't navigate Jap
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Any invite code for me to enter for moe girl cafe?
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I really want to play angelic barrage to meme on people during swordcraft mirrors, but so far i'm the only person who bothers trading into token minions to play around buffs, sigh
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huh dont die
awaiting GF JP
come quick, save this dead ass general.
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My squad is 90+ now. I'm ready for the marriage system.
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STRENGHT AND BEAUTY TOGETHER
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Anyone here playing world cross saga?
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>>155104452
Nothing worse than having floral fencer going first
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>>155104452
I do like her art, though.
>Stop staring!
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>>155104571
I used to but quit. Got too lazy and wasn't able to draw any swimsuits. Had a max Arthur with Excalibur even.
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>>155104948
A curious battlecry given her flavor text, but I won't judge. She's the discount Turn-4 Otohime of my aggro Swordcraft deck and I love her for it.
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>>155084961
>>155085057
>>155085253
Okay, I see as of yesterday they claim it's T1, but it's also a 9.0 like the T2 decks while the T1 decks are 9.5 so I have no idea why they are saying that. Seems like bull to me
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made it into A rank and every deck is PtP, I don't feel like playing anymore
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>>155108519
Because it relatively deals well with all the top meta decks too.

Bursts Purgatory decks fast and can play around Purgatory being out.

Since it's an Aggro deck, shits over any Dragon that spends its first few turns ramping.

Sword matchup is a bit iffy, but if the Shadow player draws into the tech tempests they include then they're in a good spot.
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mumi
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>>155085790
are those character moving like in GK ?
seems cute if they're moving (more cute if we can control itself)
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Glad I actually managed to get her, only took 2000 Gems
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>>155066330

what's out now that is at least as lewd and fun as VC was? I've yet to come across anything.
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dead
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Currently 4 - 0 in take two all thanks to cheesing people with Dark Dragoon Forte, god this card is broken
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HOLY SHIT
How did this happened?
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>>155116943
the power of love
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>>155116943
mumi!
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>>155085204
>Bushimo is making a new rhythm game
Is LLSIF going to die soon? Am I finally gonna be off this idol hell?
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>>155116943
Power of mumi autism. Though I wasn't expecting the passing to be this early
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>>155116943
>Ankofags: Haruka's got this, may as well take it easier now.
>Mumifags: Must grind harder, mumi.

That's my guess, anyway.
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They better not lower their guard
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Counting from the last time I now got the green idol 3 times in a row.

She was the one I needed the least because of Sayo goddamnit.
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>>155122328
shame really, she's the only idol i haven't maxed because of her competition
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>>155116943
Taken from 2ch.
Red: Haruka
Green: Michelle
Blue: Anko
Then Kokomi, Yuri, and Miki

Going to be interesting to see if anyone stops their pacing and we start seeing most votes go toward Haruka/Michelle.
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>>155091812
The deck is inconstant and easily stopped. The entire big flashy webm could basically be Exodia for how many specific cards have to be drawn early on while hoping the opponent doesn't have a card to interrupt you.
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I thought World Chain was going to be good, but...
>Multiple limited-time bosses have bullshit mechanics making it impossible to beat them, and you need to receive their tokens, which aren't guaranteed by a long shot, multiple times to get to get the unit.
>Story quests are NON-REPEATABLE, you must advance to more difficult stages. No amount of grind is allowed. You may only do easy stages that award shitty weapons.
>5 star units have a ridiculous power variance within them on Day 1 (the freebie 5 star is a very good example of this)

Did CC have these problems?
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Fuck, guess I can't play GF.

Need to enable virtualization in my BIOS for Nox to work properly, but when I enter my BIOS they completely freeze. Despite the fact that my computer posts and loads Windows. I am so fucking confused.

On another note, I finally got the BWMG in PW - any recommendations on how to go about using it?
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>>155122328
>Soma still not switchable to Yuki
>tf can't write to WF and ask them to fix that

>>155123686
No, it sucks because I like the design of cripple-chan but it can't be helped. Akki-chan is also disappointing
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Noden OTK had a 87%+ success rate
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>>155105330
It doesn't make sense because they changed her original battlecry. In Japanese it's something along the lines of "Don't look so much because I'm cute."
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>>155125285
>Don't look so much because I'm cute
You mean, don't look down on me because I'm cute.
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>>155122328
>>155122975
Just to make sure, they're mostly used for their actives and nothing else? It seems like maxing them out is going to take forever.
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Storm is a balanced mechanic
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>>155127471
mainly for active, but chainboosters are extremely useful to have for every element and they have nice stats when maxed
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>>155127471
Yes. Max skilling them is a pain but the stage is pretty easy and the Memory/Hope fragments you get can be used as good exp material or just to get some money.

You also skill one up with the other elements too.
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>>155127667
It is a fair mechanic. Dragon just has too many hard hitters.
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>>155091334
Can't find a picture of me and porygon's uguu face

Good times tho
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>Get my favorite Kokomi to 100 affection finally
>Give her a present later for heart border out of habit
>"Affection is maxed out, are you sure you want to give this?"
>Question doesn't go away on consecutive gifts
Damnit, the slider is already annoying when I'm giving individual gifts. Does this go away on birthdays? I'm thinking I should've got girls I don't care about to 100 instead.
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>>155129828
The slider stays regardless.

>getting girls you don't like to 100 instead
Shame on you for even considering it.
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>>155130535
If I didn't get a message trying to warn me every time about giving gifts at 100, I wouldn't think like that.
Guess I'm going to write up a suggestion to submit. Or maybe they could keep track of how much affection they've gained once at 100.
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>>155127050
That makes a lot more sense, yeah. あまく is something I don't really know yet.
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On which levels does invincible unlock his skill slots? Mine is 52/44/51 and still only has 3 slots
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>>155131649
All "true" Z classes unlock their slots L20 J1, L40 J2 and L60 J3. Has to be exactly on those three jobs too, so i.e. getting to L20 on J3 first doesn't unlock a slot.
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>>155104571
It's been sitting on my phone but I haven't opened it yet sadly
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>>155131629
http://jisho.org/search/甘く見る
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God I hate the high ranks. I don't think any deck is actually enjoyable to play against in rank A and above except path decks.
I miss rank B
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>>155134772
Well they are nerfing homecoming in the upcoming patch so it'll be less frustrating.
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Whatever happened to that Force of Will thing people were mentioning in the last thread?
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>>155134941
>Less frustrating
Path is the deck I find the least frustrating of them all.
Aggro shadow is just aggro face cancer, which is never fun to play against.
Dragon ramp is just stupid.
And swordcraft is, well, swordcraft. Not much else needs to be said there.
It sucks. I hate that more than half the meta just basically shits their hand out and goes face.
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>>155135040
Still happening, I guess? Their website is down, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mymQ6D-Syac
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>>155135291
Play Haven Satan then. At least you see what's coming in those face decks. Path just plays with it's own dick until it starts destroying everything you've built up.
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>>155135463
I don't have the dust for that. It's a meh deck anyway.
Besides I'm the path player
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>>155135637
Then you don't get an opinion.
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>>155135637
>Path is the deck I find the least frustrating of them all.
>btw I'm the path player

>yfw this is actually not a meme
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>>155135040
If you're looking for a tcg just wait for yugioh to come out
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>>155135713
>>155135849
Well in rank A+ it's either path or face. And I hate face decks.
But even playing other decks path is the least frustrating to play against. Note i didn't say least overpowered; just least obnoxious.
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>>155136165
I run Aggro Shadow, Midrange Shadow, Earthrites Witch, Spellboost Witch, Control Haven, Satan Dragon, Poverty Sword, literally the only deck in the entire game I hate fighting is Path. So fuck you.
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>>155136383
Good for you, we have differing opinions
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>>155124161
30/30/30 with a blue attire to stock up on purple tanks / equipment
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>>155136640
You run Path, you don't get an opinion. That's what I'm saying. You're less than a human being for running that masturbatory self indulgent no fun overpowered mess.
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>>155136742
You could say the same about literally every other tier 1 deck.
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>>155136865
What part of Midrange Dragon or Sword isn't open to counterplay?
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>>155136865
At least other decks lose because the opponent's deck did better. PtP's lose condition is "I didn't draw altered fate"
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Is there a way to quick set all your statues into the new statue building in shironeko?
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>>155137119
>I've never played the deck: the post
You know PtP isn't the deck's only win condition, and if it was the deck would suck.
>>155137012
What's the counterplay to dragon? Pray they don't draw ramp and if they do drop a ward and hope it doesn't die? That's cute.

You guys are silly. All the top decks are equally bullshit. Don't try to pretend any one is better than the other.
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>>155137180
There's a bulk store button to dump all your statues into storage faster, and there's sort options to take them out faster.

I think that's the fastest you can do it.
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Why does nobody ever talk about Qurare Magic Library?
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>>155137362
The counterplay to dragon is to run removal and wards. They lose to control. You can also outface them if you run aggro. Just a few examples off the top of my head. At the very least when I lose to them I don't feel cheated and helpless
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>>155129828
Affection increase when? If we max it out we can finally grope them.
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why does altered fate generate shadows
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>>155137764
I feel pretty cheated and helpless when a dragon player draws 3 ramp cards and then gets all their high end storm cards before I have enough mana to drop any significant wards, yes.
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>>155138272
What wards? You run Path. Your Ancient Elf? Fuck that roach bouncing OP shit. Meanwhile even with 3 ramp cards I already dropped plenty of shit depending on my deck. My Earhtrites have a billion Guardian Golems, my shadowcrafts have Death's Breath out just in time typically, Haven I shouldn't even need to mention wards.
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>>155138710
I don't only play path you fucking retard.
I'm just saying storm is as equally non-interactive as path is. Yeah you can play wards, but that's not a guaranteed block. Whenever you have a hole in your defense you can just get stormed out, and your storm cards can just be killed beforehand. Besides most ward minions barely scratch genesis dragon. Unless you're playing a deck like Haven then the ward plan isn't guaranteed.
Storm has no real counters; this isn't Magic where you can immediately interact with a haste creature as soon as they're played. It only has soft counters.
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>>155135040
>give your ip to online strangers to play
no thank you
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>another 2 quests per node event island
Shake my head at colopl. My town is pretty clear now after moving my statues into the collection room, used up 4 full rooms storing my stuff in there
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>>155136865
With other decks you need to have board control and there is counterplay involved. Against Path the game literally hinges on what his draws are: nothing you do actually matters.

That's why the other Anon was saying PtP matchups are basically you stroking your own dick for 10 minutes.
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Dissidia mobage release fucking when

Im so bored
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>>155141934
>moving my statues into the collection room
Didn't know you could do this.
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>>155141987
Not many decks actually require board control to win in SV. Aggro Shadow bursts you from hand, Witch, Storm Dragon etc. Virtually the only tier 1 deck that actually cares that much about their board is midrange Royal. Path actually probably cares more about the board state than storm dragon does considering roach combos and ancient elf shenanigans.
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>>155141934
I don't like that normal mode only has the rainbow runes as a reward. Is there ever a time these are in short supply?
But at least the story is kinda fun, if you can ignore that it's about body builders.
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>>155143078
yeah I think cygames has a least a hint that this is the case given that all lot of the new evolve effect cards (with the exception of fucking humpdty dumpty) are powerful and create stuff on the board but are interactive at the same time.
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>>155136165
You hate face because they're literally built around hunting you path cancer fags.
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>>155143640
I agree. I feel like the game is going in the right direction with the new spammy otomemes for everyone and the homecoming nerf. Perhaps waiting for 12+ burst from hand stuff won't be the meta anymore.
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>>155143078
>Not many decks actually require board control to win in SV.
No, I'm saying while playing against them. Against Aggro Shadow you need to control the board. Against Midrange Sword you need to control the board. Against Earthrite Rune you need to control the board.

Even against midrange dragon you need board control and strong wards/removal/bounces will greatly slow their tempo, allowing you to swarm them or set up your own wincon since they basically play one card a turn.

You are only correct with Spellboost Spellrune, but that's kind of a shitty deck anyways that it rarely sees complaint.

Against PtP though it doesn't matter whether you have board control or not since PtP is their ultimate win condition. The only thing you ever need to watch out for are roaches and the only way to deal with them is to play wards since they are storm, and therefore problematic as you said.

Also PtP doesn't give a shit about their board state since they can rebuild every turn. The only time they actually care is when they're setting up for 30 shadows next turn (ie. plop down 5 fairies on board) or they somehow are close to lethal themselves.
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>>155143871
Aggro shadow usually wins through burst not an overwhelming board, their minions aren't amazing just hasty. Midrange sword you do need to fight for the board as I said. Earthrite atm is just worse than Dshift (which is t2 and might be t1). Midrange dragon is not t1 and I didn't speak of it since it's rare to see at the higher ranks compared to Storm variants. If you let PTP go off you let a combo deck combo and should lose. Most PTP decks don't ever make it to PTP because they roach someone down long before that win condition comes online besides the nuts draw. PTP cares since it has multiple cards and bounces that rely on their board, again about 70% of ForestPTP's wins are from roach combos before they ever need to wait for path.
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>>155143078
>>155143640
>>155143842
I actually don't mind the burst from hand thing. Instead of saying "Here's the board, you know what you can expect next turn", you can play mindgames with your opponent. Maybe you don't want to trade that 7/2 into that 2/2 Aiela, but you've got 9 hp and direct removal in hand so a smart player will make that trade to play around Genesis Dragon. I think the mindgames and knowledge of what decks can do from their hand really sets apart the good players from the bad.
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>>155143871
>Against PtP though it doesn't matter whether you have board control or not since PtP is their ultimate win condition
No it's not. It's one win condition. You can play the beatdown game too, so you actually do spend a good portion of the game interacting with ptp forest's board if you're against them. Playing the deck I've won plenty of games from hitting face with lots of fairies, threatening with big ancient elves, and combo roaches without even drawing altered fate.
Which, as you said, once again show why storm is problematic.
>Also PtP doesn't give a shit about their board state since they can rebuild every turn
Huh, weird, that sounds strangely like another top tier deck in the meta.....
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>>155144860
While that's all well and good, Urd Forte/14 damage roaches are problematic in a game where you only have 20 hp. You have to take risks if you're going to win, even if it bites you in the ass sometimes. It might 'seem' like the good play to hope he doesn't have a genesis, but you trade with the Aiela and survive with 2 hp and he just throws another hasted minion. Some burst is fine, 75% of your health or even over 50% is a bit absurd.
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Is there any point keeping foiled dmg spell cards like Foul Tempest?
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>>155143842
As a counterargument, I don't think that's a healthy way for the meta to go.
A good card game is one that has good variety; not everyone likes playing midrange. If you kill control/combo too much, then you'll get less players overall. It's important to have decks that let you win from hand rather than from the board even if some players don't like losing to that.
That being said I'd argue storm is too good right now just because there's not much way to interact with the mechanic and you can just play a normal midrange/aggro game that curves into huge storm burst. Generally with combo decks you have to play control until you get to your combo which is one of the vulnerabilities of the deck archetype. Though perhaps the real way to tone everything down is to add disruption like discard or counter to the game, which are actual hard counters to storm AND cards like path.
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>>155145529
if you don't have the desired number of copies without the foil, yes.

If you do, swag factor
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>>155145660
Discard would automatically kill spellboost runecraft, which you said you didn't want.
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>>155143838
No I just don't like aggro/face decks in general. They're not fun to play against in any card game with any deck, though it's more tolerable in games where any creature can block
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>>155136740
Gotcha, will it just randomly give me any piece of equipment? I'm dying to get a ton more propellant to upgrade into 5*s.
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>>155145660
Variety is great, but when one of the archtypes is keeping all but literally one non-storm creature deck from overtaking the meta there's an issue. At the moment combo decks are oppressive, I know because I'm the disgusting PTP Forest player. Counterspells would improve the game a lot, but would also slow down the gameplay if the client had to ask you if you wanted to use it after every card. At AA+ besides royal how rare is it to lose to someone overwhelming your board? Because it almost never happens to me except in the absolute worst draw scenarios.
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>Be playing SV for a week
>unpack 3 Sea Queen Otohime
mfw
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>>155146095
Don't get me wrong I'm not defending PtP here. The deck is ridiculous for sure. I'm just saying if they're gonna nerf the shit out of it there better be other viable control/combo options in the highest tier. I don't want SV to turn into a Hearthstone style Tempo/Aggro fest where playing any slightly slower deck is just asking to die.
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>>155146062
If you want propellant, just farm easy stage. Forgot which one, 2nd or 3rd episode.
BWMG equipment crafting is used mostly to get equipment for tank requirement, like S5 fuel filter, etc. Just look up recipe on leddit.
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>>155146062
>>155146529
The game literally auto inputs the item recipe if you look it up in the ingame book thing in the depot.
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>>155146363
I agree going the Hearthstone route would be awful, but because there are such powerful win conditions in SV it'll never happen. As long as PTP exists in its current state, it'll see play in some form. As long as Witch can take 3 turns in a row, it'll always be around as a combo archtype unless dying on turn 5 (like in Hearthstone) is a thing. But the cards Cygames are adding are slow as well, evolving for more minions leaves you open to removal and counterplay. The fact that evolve is basically a free 2 or 3 removals really helps keep things from snowballing before you can play your cards.
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>>155145660
>If you kill control/combo too much, then you'll get less players overall.
What makes you say that? I obviously don't have the data, but neither HS nor Magic seem to have a tier 1 control/combo deck right now. And yet there is no player decline in sight for them. Personally, it seems to me as if you want to argue against the devs' personal archetype bias while being biased towards control/combo, yourself.
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>>155144819
>Midrange dragon is not t1
What did he mean by this?

>>155145284
Well we're talking about a specific part of the deck, which is PtP. If you want to start factoring roaches into it, you can just remove PtP from the deck and nothing actually changes. I've never actually lost to just fairies hitting face, but huge roach combos that come out of fucking nowhere on turn 10 for like 15 fucking face damage.

>Huh, weird, that sounds strangely like another top tier deck in the meta.....
Like?
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>>155147238
>Like?
Sword, duh. Sword's strength is that it rebuilds the board ridiculously easily so it's very resilient. That's why Otohime is a must for the deck, she lets you completely refill after a board clear which helps make the deck so powerful.
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>>155147440
Sword only rebuilds well because of Otohime (on turn 6 mind you) and if she happens to get cleared, has to pray that they'll topdeck another one in time otherwise they're stuck playing shitty followers.

Forest can rebuild their board at basically any point in the game due to their abundance of 1-2-3 PP followers.
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>>155146963
Well for Magic there are multiple formats so if non creature-based decks suck in standard then you can just play Modern/Legacy/Vintage; legacy/vintage especially since those formats are all about combo.
Really it's probably just Hearthstone PTSD where the devs though combo ruined the imaginary "fun value" and killed it at any opportunity, and continued to buff aggro/tempo while never really giving control very good tools. Like >>155146695 said there's probably always going to be good support for a variety of deck types in SV, especially considering classes like Rune exist at all, so I shouldn't really worry.
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>>155146194
You're cancer now, boy
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>>155148009
But the cancer is Dragon who keeps getting stronger
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>>155148167
No you're both wrong.
Cancer is the tier 1 deck that beats my deck the most.
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>>155148167
Dragon didn't get really any significant cards in Darkness Evolved
Maybe that 9-mana amulet, but if Dragon is able to casually play that without getting punished, you already lost way before that
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>>155148279
Oh right. That's why we always get posts about Sword being the top cancer in the game.

That explains why there was a sudden influx of bitching and complaining about swords after months of nothing and why there's almost no complaints about other decks.
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>>155148478
Dragonfag, is that you?
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>>155148478
As someone who hates sword the most, that's bullshit. People shit on path all the time and if anyone even mentions dragon the crusade begins for them too.
Here's how the cancer triangle works: Path beats Sword, Sword beats Dragon, and Dragon beats Path. So Path is cancer to Sword, Sword is cancer to Dragon, and Dragon is cancer to Path. There are exceptions since not everyone plays the tier 1 trinity, for instance like I said I hate Sword but I don't play Dragon, but that's generally the way it works. I'm also not sure what deck aggro shadow hates.
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>>155148760
>I'm also not sure what deck aggro shadow hates.
As an aggro shadow, I don't hate any of the three. If anything, random Haven decks piss me off the most.
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>>155148760
Shadow just hates Haven, I can deal with Sword, Purgatory, and Dragon, but fuck Haven.
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>>155148760
Aggro Shadow hates Haven
Banish on all their last word minions, tons of ward, and tons of healing
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>>155148478
Basically, whatever's at the top will be bitched about.

The current holy trinity is
Dragon
Sword
PtP Forest
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>>155148309
>mana
>>155149008
>minions
I found you, Hearthstone player
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>>155148547
I actually haven't shitposted in a while, I basically got it out of my system and I don't play as much since I'm waiting for the new expansion. From here on out if anyone rails about sword it probably won't be me.
>>155149134
>mana
>HS
C'mon man mana's been the word for the resource of card games since grand daddy Magic used it.
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>>155149278
I miss your shitposting, Dragonfag.

Please come back.
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>Play Control Blood
>Every single Royal deck on ladder disappears
>PtP, PtP, Dragon, PtP, Dragon, PtP
>Make it a lot faster with garbage cards like Lykos
>Aggro Shadow, aggro Shadow, aggro Shadow
Must be nice to be able to play brain dead shit that's good against everything, and isn't even weak to direct counters. There isn't a fucking thing in the entire game that could be called a "direct counter" to Dragon, whereas literally over half the ladder is a direct counter to the entire Blood and Haven classes.
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>dusted some golden animated for 2 legendary cards yesterdaty
ten bucks says I pull one of thos legendary cards today in pack
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>>155152491
This is why I won't craft that 3rd Vamp Queen, I just fucking know she's waiting for the second I craft her to show up.

I haven't gotten a legendary in 20 packs, just end my life senpaitachi.
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>>155152491
2 bucks on you pulling no legendaries.
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>>155152150
There's a reason those two classes aren't top tier.
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>>155153356
There's a difference between "not being top tier" and literally bottom of the barrel almost unplayable on ladder tier. See, Shadow is "not top tier" as it has strengths and weaknesses. PtP Forest/Rune, and Dragon aren't even remotely balanced. They simply have no counterplay, as they win automatically against slow decks, and their aggro match up isn't even that unfavored, certainly not as unfavored as they are to control decks.

Looks to me like just another case of "fuck control" that modern CCGs love so much. Literally no CCG outside of MTG has control as anything other than mediocre or bottom tier.
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>>155153935
Aggro necro is a t1 deck. Don't worry comrad, there are a lot of super powerful blood cards incoming with Darkness Evolved (Haven still fucked though). I expect Blood to at least be t2 with Blood Mary alone. That card is obscene.
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>>155153935
>They simply have no counterplay, as they win automatically against slow decks,
You do realize the trinity of balance is: aggro > midrange > control > aggro

Right?
Sounds like you're just butthurt what you play doesn't win against all matchups.
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>>155154306
It's a tier 1 deck, but aggro Shadow still horribly loses to a proper control deck. Problem is, a "proper control" decks literally can't exist on the same ladder as PtP, D.Shift, Satan, and Dragon decks.

Combo is always cancer in CCGs, and these devs seem to be doing their absolute best to see how much they can push their player base's patience before they have to cave and finally hit PtP directly, rather than another excuse nerf.

If you ever wanna balance a CCG, you need to do exactly the opposite of what combo players want for the game, this holds true for literally all MTG style CCGs, which pretty much is everything on the market.
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>>155153935
>PTP Forest, Dragon
Okay
>PTP Rune
>PTP Rune has no counterplay
Now I know you are just shitposting
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>>155154687
>60% win rate in the highest possible ranks
>Every patch is another indirect nerf to it
>y-you're just butthurt! It's perfectly balanced git gud!

There's no such thing as "holy trinity" in the modern MTG lites, like Hearthstone. They all have combo decks that constantly get nerfed, and aggro/tempo decks that have 50% as their worst match ups.

The "holy trinity" of these CCGs is pre nerf combo > aggro >everything else into aggro > everything else > post nerf combo
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>>155155080
Dragon does not have 60% winrate, faggot.

>They all have combo decks that constantly get nerfed
Were you a Miracle Rogue abuser? Get the fuck out. You're just butthurt your favourite archtype isn't sitting pretty at 80% winrate on its worst matchups.
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>>155155203
What are you even babbling about you fucking retard, follow the conversation.
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>>155153935
>He thinks PtP Rune is good
Go back to Hearthstone General and shitpost there; we don't want your kind here.
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>>155154741
Not really. If you want proper control vs. combo matches you simply need counterspells so it's a game of skill and outplaying your opponent, not a clock. Satan is a control card and Dragon Satan is meme but not as good as the storm versions. With evolves though if counterspells existed you'd literally never see a minion based deck enter the format. Someone will always get the short stick. Just hope that Cygames addresses it (like they're doing with the awesome new cards).
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>>155153935
>Literally no CCG outside of MTG has control as anything other than mediocre or bottom tier
PtP decks are control you numbnut. Well I guess you could argue PtP Forest is combo but PtP rune is control.
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>>155155395
>Someone will always get the short stick
Funny how that some one is always the exact same deck arch type in every recent CCG. Care to point me to a single fucking CCG released in the past decade that has zoo or tempo style decks be the ones getting the short end of the stick?

Faeria
Hearthstone
Duelyst
Shadowverse
Elder Scrolls Legend

I've played them all, and at the absolute worst stages of their life, aggro decks are tier 2 in these games.

Believe me, I'd go back to MTG or Yugioh in a fucking heartbeat if they were to release a good fucking official online client. Just what do modern CCGs have against fucking instants/traps/counterspells, why are they so opposed to fucking counter play and play interaction outside of "I drop dumb shit on curve" or "play solitaire unopposed".
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>>155156353
It's not even the lack of instant speed cards. Also HS does have traps in a form, just throwing that out there.
But the problem with all those card games is they all sprung from HS. And the problem with HS is that aggro will never not be good because the combat system favors attackers rather than defenders. There's also no sideboarding so there's no changing your deck depending on what deck you're currently facing.
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>>155039828
How is Fantasy War Tactics anyway?

It doesn't seem bad, but I feel like no one plays it(maybe cause it's nexon?).
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>>155156353
The main reason is because not everyone is a seasoned TCG player. For new players dropping shit on curve and figuring out how to trade efficiently is ground-breaking mind raking shit. See: Hearthstone pros that spend over a minute trying to add up to 20. If you made a game that complicated at the start it'd punish new players hard. Everyone needs a 'retard zoo deck' to start out with. It just so happens that control is the archtype that completely counters and invalidates these decks, so if it were dominant the new player experience would suffer a lot. Devpro is a decent YGO client btw, as well as Cockatrice for Magic. 'Decent', none of these are Hearthstone tier clients.
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>>155156920
Not him, but while what you're saying is true I think the problem with HS and its clones is that it focuses too much on the lowest common denominator; you can add complexity and still keep the basic decks. Hearthstone really fucking failed at this, instead of adding more complexity they just added more RNG and powercreeped until aggro was insanely dominant while giving non-Warrior control and combo the middle finger.
But honestly I think Shadowverse does this pretty well; like sure everyone hates path but the deck is pretty complicated and there's a lot of decision making involved. It's certainly not midrange/aggro play-on-curve and yet it's the top deck right now. And Runecraft as a class is obviously not a good class for people who are just starting out with CCGs, but it's still in the game and they're not giving it the Priest treatment yet so Cygames seems to at least acknowledge the more experienced players who like strategic decks rather than curve out ones. Since it's only on its first set we haven't seen where it's really going yet, but hopefully they'll try and keep control and combo viable as well.
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>>155156920
I know about Devpro and Cock. They suffer heavily from the lack of a ranked system, or anything that promotes competition. Devpro is especially guilty of that, if I run into another fucking zombie billy deck with no extra deck or some one who obviously hasn't fucking touched the game since their childhood and Battle City, I'm gonna lose it.

Dueling Network was the only good choice, as it had an enormous community, ranks, and reasons to play competitively in a game where competitive decks aren't fucking exact replicas of each other. But, we all know what happened to DN, and if you don't know, C&D.
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>>155157610
Have you tried Eternal?
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>>155157905
Never heard of it, what is it?
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>>155157993
https://www.eternalcardgame.com/
Basically a somewhat simpler Magic with an HS interface, it's even being developed by Magic vets like LSV. It has instant speed spells and the same combat system.
I don't know much about it myself since I don't play it but I've seen videos of it
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>>155138892
>Ferris wheel
I've played a lot of eroge, and I know what happens in Ferris wheels in Japan.
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Will Darkness Evolved save Haven? Jury is sitll out on Blood, but Haven doesn't seem like it's getting anything ground breaking, and that's a big problem considering it's literally the worst class in the game.

Will the board wide weenie banish be enough to fix their aggro match up? What about their unwinnable PtP/Rune match up? Anything coming out that might help them put some early/mid game pressure?
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>>155158993
Hopefully spellboost rune will get a good board clear so it'll be more viable.
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>>155156874
I thought it was pretty alright. I mostly had it always set on Auto though, so I kinda forget how to actually play it.

Game seems pretty generous with free Rubies too.
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When will the 60% meme end?
It's 60% win rate for certain matchups. That's not even that bad a percentage for a card game where bad matchups are enevitable and you can't side and it's one and done.
The overall win rate is a more reasonable 54%

>>155158993
We still haven't seen Haven's Legendary. The amulet silver is pretty good though.
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>>155153935
I remember back when people said shadow didn't have any weak spots
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shit general infested with shadowshit.
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>mfw Charon is finally a playable card
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>>155158993
>Control deck losing to a Combo deck
Working as intended
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dead
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbrGQyh7q-A

can't wait
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>>155167823

Looks so p2w it hurts.
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>>155167823
Is there an ETA?
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Would darklords in scooter spirits prefer Summer Yua or Kunito as a friend lead?
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>>155156353
Back in the day healyonar was top tier in duelyst and absolutely destroyed aggro decks

Also, the ability for counterspells that aren't secrets requires a stage where when someone plays a card and has to wait to see if the opponent responds. This was something annoying when I played the magic client and I would never play such a thing without paper or cockatrice and discord with friends.
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>>155165237
Looks like the same artist as Floral Fencer. Do you happen to know who it is?
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>>155158993
Like I said once there's a haven deck I want to try out, but I don't dare to invest in it lest it turn out to be a bad idea.
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>>155158993
Haven is T2
Blood is T3
Forest doesn't even rank if you don't count the insanely broken Path
So by that theory, Forest and Blood are worse than Haven.
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>>155168952
Is Blood really Tier 3 now? What happened? They used to be high Tier 2
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How good is Sexton SPG? My only SPGs are SU-8 and Priest, can she replace one of those?
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>>155169260
I guess they just don't handle the meta decks well.
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>>155169260
They were top three or four when the top decks were Midrange Shadow and Sword.
Blood does really well against midrange Shadow, but that variant is getting rarer and rarer.
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>>155169260
The 2/3 of the best decks right now, Purgatory Forest and Midrange Dragon dumpster Blood.
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When's the next BGHS event, I have so many stones and I cant stop going to the roll screen and threatening to break down.
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>>155169260
Bad match up against Forest, Dragon, and aggro Shadow. It's supposed "good" match up is midrange sword, and you only win if you draw more clears than they draw Otohime/Florals. Out of the playable classes, that only leaves Rune as a neutral/not unfavored match up.

>>155168472
Even before that, when Magmar had Mana Burn and control was dominant, the game was good. But, they nerfed everything control related as one would expect out of Hearthstone likes, and made face combo Songhai unstoppable, and later on aggro Abyss. It's already been discussed, devs hate control, because control shits on aggro, and the devs like the ease of play aggro provides to new comers and casuals.
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>>155168952
Combo forest (no paths, Silver Bolt instead) is a t2 deck. Check the Nip's Tierlist on Game-ai.
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>>155170820
30th. With Kurumi's and Haruka's birthdays coming up too but those won't have guarantees. I think you're new, but there's a birthday gacha that shows up on someone's birthday with 5 of their popular old cards and a birthday card, but unless you're willing to iap, you should only roll for you're waifu's birthday.

I don't know how many gems you have but even 1k gems disappears fast, especially without guarantees. Today is the last day of guarantees for Debut gacha too. Bunny gacha leaves tomorrow, but that's really only for outfits and has no guarantees.
So if you have an itch to roll, we can't really stop you.
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>>155171750
ye I played quite a few levels so I got 1k gems stocked but I just needed someone to talk me down off the ledge since I already got a good roll from the idol gacha and I dont wanna ruin that with a dupe or something tragic like that.
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>>155171912
>1k gems
>thinking that's safe
You're gonna be thinking 1k isn't enough once you establish a favourite student.
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>>155171912
Usually the cycle goes like this
>release new gacha card set + event: 2 weeks
>after about 7 days, release new gacha weapon set
>2 days later, senbatsu (e-sports event, or rather, whoever hits V-Hammer fastest)
>2 weeks end, another new gacha card set, rinse and repeat
There's also birthday gacha set. The pool only has one girl, and it includes all of her past cards + one special birthday card. Those cards have special birthday stamp, so they don't count as dupe. No guarantee, though.
They could also re-run past gacha pool, like Flora sets. It happened twice so far.
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>>155169261
She's in the same league as those 2, but they are generally better. For a minor FRP and targeting trade off she has a silent engine and the ability to swap to AP for shorter ranges.
At lower tech levels there's little difference and she uses wrecks which tend to build up unless you are leveling all 3 kinetic ammo at that stage.

If you are planning to invest in HE I'd definitely build her unless you plan to gun for M44/Doro quickly or go for ATGs instead. Think of as getting another SPG for only ~400 wrecks instead of ~700 SP/Chips/Test dolls.
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>>155171706
You're gonna have to link that, it's not even listed on Gamewith which is what most people use

https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/22277
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>>155172457
Never mind, I found the website and it looks like bullshit

http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/tier-rankings/

It doesn't link to these high tier decks directly, clicking on them just takes you to articles tagged with the same words. It's very difficult to navigate at least as someone who doesn't speak moon.
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>>155172739
The website also calls Aggro Dragon a T1 deck and doesn't tier Midrange Dragon.
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>>155172859
The t1 dragon deck is the storm dragon list. The website mostly gets deck lists from top masters twitters, the combo elf list in the first post is from Para, someone that's constantly top 10 masters with it.
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>>155172398
>unless you plan to gun for M44/Doro quickly
That's what my plan, guess I'm sticking to it. Oh well, another gold tank unused.
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I didn't notice earlier but today is the last day of voting for the Sports Festival slogan in BGHS.

11 hours left, with Mimi 450k votes past Haruka.

>Try giving my 9k votes to Haruka
>Maxes her affection out
Damnit, these things give way too much affection.
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>>155173295
M44 is pretty amazing for how easy she is to get. On the other hand, rushing Tiger17 before your HE is 30+ is just about the worst thing you can do in this game. Delayed my progress by a couple months easy because her pre-reqs are garbage besides the T34.
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>>155173295
If you are really going to go the HE route with Doro + Emil you are going to want SPGs for all your other teams anyway. There's definitely no rush to develop her right this second though.
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>>155173480
We need to band together and stop the mumi menace. Seriously, this mumi is going too far. Probably revenge because they lost the fig to Kurumi. Next time Colopl does an event like this, they seriously need to separate the girls into tiers.
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>>155173764
>>155173897
I'm planning to get M44, first. As for second SPG, I'm still unsure. Hedgehog looks great, but I have allocated my wrecks for heavies, so maybe M43?
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>>155173764
Bison II and Jagdpanther both end up being good once your tech levels are high. The problem is really rushing them.

Bison has no n4 ammo options period but ends up getting the best general usage HE shell.
Jagdpanther's targeting is way too low to start with and her HE ammo also has 0. Once your heavy armor+chasis is high she is great as a tough dps.
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>>155173480
Oh right, got to make sure I drop any leftover sashes on Miki before going to bed.
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>>155175347
Something this polar should probably have a few stages of voting. Take the top 3 to another vote, then take 1st place from that. Because what sort of motivation do the supporters of those in the last 3 places have to try to catch up? They can't with the numbers this vote is pulling.

But next time I definitely want to prevent Kurumi from winning. I'm still not sure why Kurumi is so popular aside from secondaries and titties. Kurumi and Michelle are too strong.

>>155176080
This voting forced my Kokomi to 100, and since I don't want Haruka at 100 yet, I'll probably just give my votes to Kokomi anyway.
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>>155175347
What mumi menance. She's just a popular cute girl. It's better than voting for some girl because of VA
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>>155175379
Hedgehog is great, but she's RP. If you want to go that route early you are better off getting the RP players since it's basically cheat mode for story.

If you make the M44 she's more than good enough to last a long time. People used to say you needed 35+ tech to make up for the lost slot. Test dolls early on are way too good to use on a sidegrade unless it's for waifu reasons.
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>>155177291
How often does RP proc? I thought frag is overall better for hitting multi targets.
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>>155177484
No, RP's multihit was already much higher and they buffed it again with this patch.
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I haven't played anyranked in shadowverse, should I just for the achievements and ranked rewards? Does the score awards reset with ladder resets?
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>>155176943
I think it's partially
>Mimi is being cute, praise Mimi
Without any further substance to her character
And more recently that I personally find really annoying
>"Mumi" (How cute is it that I'm explaining everything without saying anything)
But that just shows up in fan comics involving her.

Anyway, I don't mind her winning, but it will be annoying to see votes always end up the same way, where the only ones ever winning these things are the same 5 who got Yukata last year.
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>>155178042
aside from master rank scores ladder hasn't fully reset yet, your rank is your rank. but ye the score rewards reset at the end of the month
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>>155177291
I was interested, so I checked my two SPGs. The difference in naked firepower/pen at 30 HE between my SU-8 and M44 is a lvl 4 rammer and lvl 5 propellant. That's with an 87 (+13.3%) firepower and 56 pen (+20.3%) difference at level one.

So yeah, to make up for a lvl 6 equip with half that stat difference you would need a higher level than 35 easy.
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>>155173480
Victory for mumi! Wish the voting was moreso towards the theme rather than girl though. I'll always support mumi but I can't help but feel that her theme sucks and will lead to some frilly generic outfits
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I hope haruka still gets her fair share of food
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>>155178817
I bet the winners would've all received a similar Festival Chair outfit regardless of their theme. Maybe not, timing seems close for outfits.

But for the sets, what they probably could've been:
Haruka
>Food-related or actually artsy
Anko
>Pajamas
Kokomi
>Cleavage and midriff with mud wrestling
Yuri
>Slumber party focus or kinda militaristic
Miki
>???

Results are on the 21st, and I guess I can look forward for something cute for Subaru. And hopefully we see something about the figurine soon too.
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>>155180467
I want to share a sandwich with her
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>>155152491
>Decided to craft Lucy for my control Blood deck
>Suddenly free Lucy because Cygames loves us so much
>Well shit. Wasted dust
>Decideds to open my daily pack to see what Ill get
>Lucy says hi
Holy shit that was particularly painful. At least I got my second Otohime from the same pack
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>>155181479
>sharing with IGAS miki
At least pick the right one to console.
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>>155181629
yeah, i just crafted my second Lucifer and Jeane De Arc for my haven deck. They are my next two legendarys i pull, I can feel it.
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>>155180467
>Anko
>>Pajamas
>Kokomi
>>Cleavage and midriff with mud wrestling
tfw we have no chance to get these
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>>155152150
people keep telling me blood beats royal, but I never lose to it, is an 8 play point aoe really that good?
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thoughts on these 2017 releases?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83qSyW6_uA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjMd0xQkQMc&index=2&list=FLP4lDMRtOkAyOK3Yg6b7k_w
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>>155183892
revelation is 4 mana when you're in vengeance. the matchup pretty much literally hinges on this card being available once blood loses all possibility of controlling the board (t6 Otohime)
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>>155184146
The Symphogear game might be good. Macross Delta hype will be dead by the time the game is released, but if it brings some new songs I'm all for it.
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Anything new being released soon?

I need fresh games and more cute girls in my life
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>>155184823
ragna strike angels soon?
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>>155183270
Pajama stuff will happen sooner or later.
Renge getting another chance to lewd out an entire girls' school...
Maybe next year.
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>>155180467
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>>155185301
>they cry
Why would you do that
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>>155185301
I wanna hug Kokomi
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What was the last game you dropped?
What was the last game you picked up?
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Oh so the new detective island isn't 2 quests per node. That was only for the first one maybe to troll people, the nodes are mostly 3 and sometimes higher. I unshake my head at colopl
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>>155187260
>What was the last game you dropped?
Gintama mobage

>What was the last game you picked up?
Gintama mobage

Can't believe i waited for that crap.
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>>155187260
>picked up
OPTC
>dropped
BBS.
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>>155187260
>Last game dropped
Considering dropping Shadowverse since I don't have a lot of fun with that

>Last game picked up
Starlight stage

Girls frontline if you want something /mbgg/ related
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>Only have 5 Flora cards
>Roll my tickets
>Get a dupe 4*
Why?
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For GF, best stage to farm cores?
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This one is such a fucking annoying recruit. Keeps hugging the walls and then that teleport at 50% can screw things up if you get unlucky with the positioning.
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>>155188485
3star drops are pretty rare, i don't think you can farm them except retiring crafted shit guns and doing dailies/weeklies.
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>>155188485
Dummy cores?
Drop rates for 3*s from maps is pretty shit in general so resource wise it wouldn't be worth it
You could try some cheap rolls of 130x4 or 30x4 to get some 3*/4* guns and then just scrap them for cores
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>>155188398
Are you me?
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>>155187260
Dropped Blazing Odyssey. I mean, yeah you can 10 roll a ton shit and the game is Really goddamn generous with gems. But it's pure autobattler and grinding that is no fun.

Picked up and will probably stick with Puzzle and Empires. Sure the gacha is shit but you can literally grind for gems + Roll twice every day due to daily quests. The gameplay is surprisingly addictive for me.
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>>155187260
>What was the last game you dropped?
Otogi
>What was the last game you picked up?
Otogi

I loved the old Ayakashi art and story but I just hate clusterfuck realtime autobattles.
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>Last Word: You win the game.
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>>155190126
Is this a 4 part Flame Glass like fusion?
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>>155190241
The first one summons the second one and so on, they are all countdown 1 amulets and the fourth one wins the game.
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>>155190126
>>155190398
So Haven has their own win condition now. Skullfane speeds it up but playing nothing but an amulet in turn 8 is pretty bad. Also Odin counters it.
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>>155190126
so it's possible to play it on turn 8 and dogma it for the win on the next if opponent does not banish it? sounds fun
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>>155190540
maybe we will also get decent amulet removal this expansion
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>>155190540
Yeah. It's kinda funny that after cards like Purgatory that basically win you the game once you pull it off the next thing they add is a card that literally does just that.
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I want to see Shadowcraft's legendary.
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>>155190608
>kill it faster when its skill is based on it dying

no. do not do that. the only thing that can stop this is petrification (or odin if anyone actually wants to run that) - anything else just destroys it which trips the last word and sends it up to the next form. You either banish it, kill them before they get it out, or die to it.

I really can't help but feel like this will be heavily exploited with prism priest if its the only cd amulet you run, though - which actually makes it more consistent than purg, especially if you run a healing prayer/dogma or 3 to rush its stages along
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>>155190839
So maybe the people that were saying that cygames wants to push aggro/midrange were right.

Play Aggro/midrange or you lose to purg bullshit or someone going exodia on your ass
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Isn't playing Satan on 10 mana just better than playing 4 8 mana countdown amulets that can also be banished?
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>>155190460
Literal turn of nothing at turn 8+ and 4 turns to actually win unless you're holding onto a lot of dogmas and sister initiates. I honestly can't see this being particularly successful or viable.

>>155190778
Last one left, the golds revealed are pretty amazing at least. The least amazing one is Soul Reuse simply because Shadow already has good card draw.

>>155190839
You should be comparing that playstyle to Dragon Satan which it seems like it would be a slower version of. Dogma is a dead card without any amulets in play, Prism Priest, Sister Initiate, and Healing Prayer are also usually curve cards that aren't very good on curve if not supplementing an amulet.

>>155191032
A lot of these new wincons don't seem particularly better than what we already have.
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>>155191082
No, you can win with this on turn 9
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>>155191082
You only play the cost of the first one as they summon each other sequentially.

Turn 8 played, turn 9 it turns to phase 2, turn 10 it turns to phase 3, turn 11 it turns to the final phase, and at the start of your 12th turn it wins the game.

This changes if you're holding onto cards like hallowed dogma. If you have 3, you can win on turn 9, but generally these cards get used a lot earlier since Haven's early curve isn't great.

For Haven, it's less safe than Satan due to the empty turn required since it's just an amulet and can't be comboed with Guardian Sun.

Dragon Satan is also generally faster as well.

People already have trouble playing wincons like Mordecai and Satan due to the threat of being burst down in the turn played. This is literally just an amulet that can't even be evolved either so it's a guaranteed dead turn.
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>all three foul tempests in the top 12 cards of his deck
kill me now
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>>155191847
When you play shadow
>never draw a single foul tempest or deaths breath
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>>155156874
Game is actually allright, wish it had more waifus though.
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How is tempo haven not a thing
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>>155192753
Enlighten me, senpai.
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Greetings!
/tg/ here, I've recently started playing this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wlxd.retrorpg.android
on my phone and really like it. Maybe anyone knows are there any games that are similar to the one I've posted? Thanks in advance!
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>>155194572
Fa/tg/uy, while your post is honestly kind of funny in its general demeanor, please make a tiny shred of effort to feel out what a random general is like before posting in request of recommendations. Either by actually reading a thread or the resources in the OP.

This is a very weeb general. We focus on somewhat garbage games whose only usual redeeming points are waifus.

You might be better off trying to ask around in the roguelike general.
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>>155194802
Eh, I'll take my non-weeb games elsewhere. I get it. Thanks anyway.
Will try /wsr/ I guess.
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http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/tier-rankings/
>4 classes are present in both tier 1 and tier 2
>2 classes have their absolute, best minmaxed decks as tier 3, along with trash like poverty sword and incomplete newbie decks
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>>155196205
For some reason Rune is in tier 1 too.
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>>155188449
at least you're not pic related
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>>155196493
Good result in last tournament.
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>>155196205
How is sword so high it really feels like a tier 2 deck
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>>155190839
>>155190683
>>155190460
>>155190126
It's still a turn 8 card.

In order to win on that turn, you have to keep a bunch of dogmas/sisters in your hand, which probably won't be happening most of the time.

If not you're setting yourself up for an Odin, which I have the feeling everyone's going to run at least one of just in case.
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>>155196746
Midrange sword is the most consistent deck in the game so it has high winrates.

However when it loses, it loses really fucking hard. People who don't main sword don't know that feeling of utter despair when your board is cleared and you don't have an Otohime on curve.
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>>155196746
Same reason Shadow and Dragon are in there, they can either win before PtP, or burst from hand if PtP hits. That, and the retarded legendaries, and ramp carrying the classes.

Give the class that can be 4 PP ahead of everyone the best and fattest storms, what could go wrong? Genius game design that.
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>>155196749
Sorry,
>In order to win next turn

Otherwise it's potentially just a slower Satan.
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>>155196895
At least Dragon can be stalled with wards.
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Kind of disappointing.
I hope one of the golds is an Urd for Amulets. That would make the card significantly better.
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>>155197076
Iy would make a bit of sense if they released some sort of OP Haven card for amulets. Right now, it seems like they're delibirately trying not to make any anulets that are too strong.
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mumi
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starting Terra Battle, do you get a SS during the tutorial? or did i get lucky? Got Anima
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>>155202858
>do you get a SS during the tutorial
yes
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>>155202951
should i bother finishing the tutorial and do my pulls? or just reroll until i get a good SS during the tut?
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>>155203530
the tutorial rolls are predefined
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i really want the new exodia amulet to become a thing
it has such awesome meme potential
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>>155203607
ok, last question

How do i instert a referral code? i cant find the option
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>>155204787
you cant. they removed codes.
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>>155204928
damn, this makes rerolling harder,

thanks
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Is there something nice to play?
Was trying to play exvius but it wasn't very generous.
I'm stuck with Game of dice which became top jew, Grimm notes and Unison League, althought the mbg guilds are probably dead since the last time I played any of these was 6 months ago
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>>155206208
try exvius now, the current banner is top tier
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>>155171750
When will it come? Can you give a date for them bday?
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>>155206657
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Appmedia Detective Fran rise up to 1st rank. Detective Tsukimi and Lily made it to 9th and 10th. I won't be surprised for Tsukimi to powercreep Tina when her motif will come out.
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>>155206654
5k gems for a 10roll is a lot if by the end of the tutorial you have 500 but what do you mean exactly?
I'm up for giving it another chance since the game is cool
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>>155206774
Bday gacha makes you feel speshul but they are actually weak.
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>>155206940
The jp version gives 5500 gems right after tutorial

t. someone who is rerolling
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>>155206940
do story mode until you get 5000 lapis, then do a 10+1 pull. I sounds hard to do, but you could pull an entire Top tier team (that can even get to 6* when they're released)
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>>155206970
>5 old cards
>1 new card with a friend skill that useful for farming, but doesn't help with combat
>no guarantees
I don't think anyone is rolling birthdays for esports.
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>>155206970
The only thing bday gatchas make me feel is despair from all the duplicate outfits i get
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>>155207068

How does the english version compare to the jp version?
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>>155204780
Too bad you'll likely never get to see it actually going off, with people rage quitting the second they realize they can't get rid of it or kill you beforehand.
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>>155207160
This is my dread for when I decide to roll past the ticket and a courtesy roll. If I got someone from those, it has always been a dupe.
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>>155207861
not sure

haven't started playing
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In PW, generally how long would it take for a newcomer to get their first N6?
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>>155188530
Honestly feels like the easiest of the bunch and also the most newbie-friendly. It deals pretty tame damage, doesn't have any retarded damage-check-move, its mobs seem to lack the brutal AI (and power) some other recent mobs share, magic still does a fuckton of damage even if you don't have any of the Astral mages and that Hiso Abduction of its clone tends to end up more helpful than harmful a lot of the times.

Unlike the other bosses, this one really seems to try to sell its floor traps as its main annoyance. And if you can avoid or destroy the time traps, the poison ones don't deal all that much damage even on highest difficulty.
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>>155206970
Except for birthday renge when it comes to grinding them votes
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It's been a long way...
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So many dshift decks in ranked now.

It's not even a new variant or anything. It's the exact same deck from when the game first released. Every other deck to this point has evolved, but not Rune.
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>>155212171
same here, 8* descents when?
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>>155212727
>tfw auto loss vs combo rune as control blood player
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So why are they nerfing homecoming so hard? It doesn't even kill anything unless your opponent has a lot of cards, all it does is delay the inevitable. Instead of actually nerfing the single problem card, altered fate, are they just going to keep nerfing good Forest cards until the class itself sucks?
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>>155212727
Which dim shift? Flame Glass, destroyers, penguin, conjuring snowmen, runeblade, dragonbond, magisa and gabiel?
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>>155213934
No, the removal into Merlin evo into removal into Merlin evo into removal into D.Shift or two D.Shifts with destroyers or rune bladers gg ez.
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Would it be asking too much if Havens amulet creatures could attack on spawn
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>>155214703
Sure, as long as you give Blood's cards their vengeance effects without requiring vengeance.
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>>155214086
>destroyers or rune bladers
People being lazy then.
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>>155214910
Or give all Rune cards spellboost buffs
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>>155215316
So you want each Rune card to cost 0 and do infinite damage? If you were to say, spell boost every card by 4 for free, it would still be more OP than the haven amulets getting storm or blood not needing veng.
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>>155214910
This will happen in the same update which nerfs ptp
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>>155210239
Checking some screenshot dates. I took approximately 4 months I think?
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>>155215501
Buffs can be something else. Perhaps unlockable abilities.
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>>155189214
This game reminded me I'm shit at PAD and having to position units as well makes me even worse at this game
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Is she worth levelling?

>>155217604
I just line my units up vertically. Although, more complex stuff need more work I guess.
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>>155196850
>However when it loses, it loses really fucking hard. People who don't main sword don't know that feeling of utter despair when your board is cleared and you don't have an Otohime on curve.

This pretty much.
When you get a good curve and good hand then you win and its all good. But when you start fighting garbage like Spellboost rune that has his hand full with removal and clears your field every single turn then what the fuck am I supposed to do if the RNG isnt letting me draw my storm units or my good units?
And then they dimshift three times at turn 8 and the game is over in one of the most frustrating matchups ever.

Or when the enemy class clears your board and plays a fat ward (Or three, hello death's breath), its pretty much a insta loss for you if you don't have a counter for it on your hand because sword isnt exactly good at removal. Pretty frustrating when the enemy mirror match plays a fully buffed aurelia and then proceeds to destroy your board and now you have to deal with that Aurelia and the rest of his board.

There's a TON of sword complaining here but playing sword can be pretty frustrating at times too.
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>>155219561
Soon everyone will stop coming to mbgg and dropped mobile game altogether in exchange for more family time, work, etc.
When that time comes, mbgg will truly ded.
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>>155221279
But new anons will come to replace them, and start playing and dropping new mobage.

And then they will be the ones complaining that the thread is dead.
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>play take two
>opponent draws his gold/legendary cards before me
Haha epic well played
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Holy cow, now I see why some people think Rune is top tier.
The 9 card hand is a massive buff for Rune.
Interesting way to buff a craft on cygames's part.
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>>154993130
that outfit is so adorable
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Even Amina has the level 90 last skill even though Amisandra is basically the same unit and only needs 80
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>>155215594
Oh man, that's not as bad as I thought it would be - but still a bit depressing.

I'm floundering around in N3 area right now, and can't get up to N4s until I get better equipment going.
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>>155222293
But amina is cuter
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>>155222376

That is true
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>>155222309
Don't worry you'll probably drop the game after a month or two when you realise it's boring as fuck and the patches are far and few between.
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>>155222293
I trust this is some shit they'll just run with now and final skills at L80 will be a thing of the past. Mizell is the first true Z that unlocks ALL of her final skills at L90 as well and they have long lost sight of if this is even remotely balanced. See Eileen^ and her Extended Regen at L90.
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>>155222309
>>155210239
There's no real point rushing for N6 gameplay wise. You need lots of tech to make up for the slot loss anyway. It's all for Waifu reasons.

I made the Tiger II around 90 days in and I'm at 108 days with the Tiger II, SP I.C, Elefant, and a week or two from the IS-2m and ISU-22 (thanks patch).
That's even in corn conserve mode. I'm up to 900 corn after getting to zero in the monte carlo event.
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Hahaha.
Idiot dragon player doesn't use Genesis to kill my Flame Destroyer letting me use my 10, 11, and 12 cost Dshifts back to back to win.
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>>155223357
It's definitely for waifu reasons. I need that N6 Dorothy.

How do you save that much corn? Just doing all the specials clears me out of petrol and requires a refill or two. Doing the dailies after that burns even more.

Hell, if I want to actually clear more story (Chapter 13), I'll probably need to drop some on milk and petrol.

That's not even factoring in the event - which I'm only trying to get to 32 points on.
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>>155224102
all combo players should be lined up and shot
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>>155224276
Always put level 75+ tanks in lifestyle 3 and burn all my refreshes for lifestyle 5 and 6 to try to get the extra corn missions.
I also only did direct trades for Dex and Trit when I was desperate for them. No Pizza/mats/codon/etc.
Still have 32(3 upgrading) on AP, HEAT, APCR, 30 Standard/Light and 31(2) on Heavy and Chasis + Manual are cockblocked by rank so it didn't murder my tech levels either.
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>>155168438
Kunito feels less interchangeable with the other leads, so probably him.

On a related note, why is Rosebank so tough to use as a lead? Almost every level has some sort of nuke or pre-emp that leaves you struggling for that HP threshold with your sorry Angra recovery, and Ayame doesn't help much. I should just level my Cleopatra some more.

>>155214703
This is the thing I don't get in Shadowverse. Magic gives Haste to the Suspend creatures exactly because you'd expect to attack with them after waiting for so long. I guess it's not that much of an issue when the game itself prevents you from misplays.
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>>155224410
Dragon players first.
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>>155224276
This event is really garbage. It's still better than story/event dailies, but it's not going to help you much besides the free SPG. In comparison Monte Carlo gave people months of progress in two weeks.
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>>155225336
>Deleted Panzer Waltz because one anon apologized for bringiing it to /mbgg/ because it is kill.
>It still has a slow update instead.
Did I lose something?
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>>155225542
The events will be every four months so its deader than terra battle
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>>155224775
Oh shit, so I guess levelling up the service station is actually beneficial.

I'm probably going to dump a bit of corn for pizza soon, to try and finish out the purple tanks I need and get completely into golds.

Still trying to figure out how to farm the material that trades with corn into pizza, though.

>>155225336
Damn, that's really unfortunate - I saw a lot of you guys playing during that event and didn't think of starting then, because I didn't realize it was basically tankcolle.

I take it the odds of an event that good coming around again are pretty low by comparison to how bad this one is?
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>>155225605
>The events will be every four months
I'll believe it when I see it. They seem to fuck up everything so it wouldn't surprise me if it took them half a year per patch. Though this event seems to be shit so I guess they could just put less effort into them and crank them out.
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>>155225542
Major updates and events are bundled into one patch a quarter.
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Any new Global mobage?
That new Naruto Ultimate Blazing coop felt awful.
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>>155226432
Basically all mobage is global, what are you on about.
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>>155220183
Every 4* is good enough.
Also remember to always go with singles.
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>>155158993
I play counter Haven, but I don't lose to aggro though.
I lose to basically all the slower deck, any Satan deck, any PTP deck and Dshift.

My win condition is usually swarm the board with high stats amulet creatures and win at turn 7/8.

The real weakness to my Haven is that it lacks any kind of direct damage finisher unless you put Gilgamesh which doesn't have any synergy with Haven and get stopped by ward.

What I wanted in the new expansion would be some good low cost direct damage spell or a good turn 8/9 creature with direct damage potential.
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Outcancered
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>>155226526
English then.
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>>155226802
If Singles is the only way to draw then why I can't I get Charlotte on all of my reroll acc?
Checkmate!
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>>155226805
Didn't look at the new card.
Guess my wish just came ture.
God, the developer does know what Haven's weakness is.
With this card, PTP can be somewhat winable if I can keep my health above 13(tanking two PTP proc), which is highly possible, since the fairies can't go though ward and they mostly use tp roach to trade with my ward creature.
Plus, homecoming being nerf also helps the match up.
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>>155227429
Because desire detector?
Wanted Mea the most and I have gotten pretty much every other character but her.
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>>155228325
Ah didn't see it takes four turns...
Well, then it depends on how much counter booster I have in the late game.
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>>155227225
Building that wall for satan?
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When are the new cards updated on Tuesday?

JP Tuesday or our Tuesday.

I'm assuming we'll get a couple of cards we haven't seen yet.
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>>155230912
If you mean SV, isnt the 29th a thursday?
Im pretty sure the message updates adjust for your phones timezone so mine say 9am-5pm est on the 29th.

If you mean some other card game i cant help ya.
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>>155221043
>Sword player complaining about Rune
Are you serious right now.
Sword runs over rune. They literally cannot deal with Otohime in any good way except a crazy spellboosted fire chain. You have to draw insanely well to stand a chance as the Rune player.
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>>155233595
isnt protector golem favored against sword? I mean it loses to everything that isnt aggro but still.
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>>155233813
Yeah but that anon was complaining about spellboost, which is a great match-up for sword.
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>>155233860
Yeah but when that matchup goes wrong, its no fun at all for sword
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>>155233860
Have you ever thought about what it feels when you're the sword player and you get none of your storm cards when the rune player gets all his removal?

You don't get to do shit because the rune will be removing your everything before you can hit his face, and he'll have 2-3 shifts ready by the time you finally have a board and can go face with him.

Its not all about the optimal or best case scenarios, its real life and other scenarios happen too.
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>>155234016
Doesn't change the fact it's in sword's favor by a lot. As a rune player, when you don't get the god draw it's really frustrating and no fun at all.
They really need to give Rune a better option for clearing the board. Fire chain is way too unreliable and alchemical lore is too slow.
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>>155234016
It's no fun for anyone if spellboost rune draws the nuts anon
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>>155228325
This new card won't save you against PtP since it's slower than Satan on average.
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>>155234225
Oh boo hoo, I feel so sorry for the top tier god deck when sometimes he doesn't win a match-up that he usually steamrolls. How sad. My heart really goes out to you Sword mains, you must have suuuuuch a hard time.
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>>155234274
Fuck that, its not fun for anyone when rune starts removing your everything every single turn then shifts to win.

Earth rite might be annoying but at least they play followers and its better to go against than the idiot constantly removing your shit.
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>it's another swordcraft player pretends a matchup is difficult to deflect attention from themselves episode
kys
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>>155234671
>It's not fun to fight against control as aggro/midrange when they remove all your minions
Congratulations, you figured it out. Now can the top tier class mains stop talking about how frustrating tier 3 decks are? Especially match-ups that are in their favor? That'd be swell.
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>>155234559
That feel when you punish a late otohime with your Jeane de Arc.
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>>155234786
He's shitposting, but playing against Rune can be pretty annoying if he just removes everything you play.

Nothing more frustrating than queuing as Haven and seeing fat tits mcgee as my opponent.
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>>155234886
>150 ranked havencraft wins
>has only happened twice
it was glorious tho
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>>155234886
>That feel when you homecoming a sword's board three times in a row and then altered fate into PtP and clear it for good
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New

>>155235137
>>155235137
>>155235137
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>>155235087
>PtP
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>>155234973
That's a valid complaint though because, unlike the sword retards, rune is actually a hilariously bad match-up for haven to the point where it's basically a free win. They just can't apply good enough pressure without wasting evolves on things that just die next turn anyway. Mainyu helps but it's not enough.
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>>155235087
>Shitposting cancer thinking it has any right to shitpost
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