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>>154732257
A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.
>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/
>/simg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
>Experimental website
http://nogf.moe/simg/
>/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral
>BMS download links
http://pastebin.com/2CDSgvZq
>Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in
>Tankfag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX
>Boat- and subfag pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE
>Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web
>OP pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg
>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro truck sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator
>Example of non-welcome games:
Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____
First for Korea Ops when?
OPS WHEN
kill yourself furry faggot
fucking furfag
LITERALLY FRIDAY NIGHT AND THREAD DIES
You can't make this shit up. It's over gents.
Just lay it to rest.
>>154973294
>/sing/
>ops ever
Lol
dead as fuck
bump
going to bed maintain the thread
aesthetics
https://youtu.be/WCaCa2ZMrRI
I just made this someone do something with it and make sure you're blasting 'Push it to the Limit' the entire time.
>>154980017
>That slow ass hud refresh rate
I know it's realistic but god damn that's going to bug me.
>>154980017
1: my fucking dick holy shit
2: are those viggens in the background?
>>154980641
I just noticed, they have to be.
GIVE US THE VIGGEN YOU FUCKING KEKLORDS.
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>people are still making textures for an AI model that's been gone for years and aren't including the base files in their uploads
W H Y
H
Y
>>154981476
Flightgear had a viggen for years
DCS fags btfo
reminder to get your shills out of our fucking thread >>154978826
>>154981857
This is bait.
Have fun with your ace combat tier realism.
>>154982102
>ace combat.
What?
mfw I forget to put the gear lever in neutral and then go to land after awhile
https://youtu.be/im_N4jGz5c0
>>154982102
>F14 video
>no viggen
>viggen supposed to come out first
>>154982610
please do explain what happened
also,
>not greentexting
>eastern europoors getting better sales than the important countries
why
ugly
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Tales of /дa бoйз/ anon here
After being on hold for approximately a month and a half now due to me being busy and life shit, I'm beginning to get back to work on finishing this motherfucker. Work is completed on 5/8 missions and all the mission scripts have been completed, the last mission script may need revising but that will be done when I get there.
I can't deny that I think afghan ops will overshadow my work completely because it was an extremely great op and due to the way the missions are but I don't give a damn and I'll still try to deliver.
As for the details of the campaign: It'll be a short, 8 mission long MP campaign for the SU-27, Mig-29A and Mig-21Bis with the type of mission as described in the image.
As soon as I'm done making all the missions the entire campaign will be uploaded somewhere as a release candidate and hopefully hosted and tested.
I think that's it, yea.
Fly safe planefags.
Work on and testing of Afghan ops resume tomorrow. If you want to fly, just be awake when I am.
Current playable version: 9.39 (Mission 5 finalized and complete)
Working version: 9.41 (Mission 6 triggering, laying groundwork for 7)
The DCS autumn sale is on right now at Eagle Dynamics. Many modules used in the op, namely FC3 and the Mi-8 are both 40% off. Other modules used in the op with good deals are the Ka-50 (Until DCS Mi-24 comes out next decade), MiG-21, and L-39C (Coming in version 1.42).
Combined Arms, important for directing events as well as allowing you to crew various ground vehicles, is also on for 9 dollars.
>>154994980
>I think afghan ops will overshadow my work completely
Just get more involved with the community. Screenshots, early access tests, discussion and general promotion will keep you in the public eye. An op's an op, andI won't be done with this for awhile so the floor is still yours
>>154996453
I meant that as in the missions are a lot shorter and less complex.An op's an op, though. Yeah.
>>154976752
You broke the one rule:
Non-welcome games
>Ac* C*mbat
>>154997927
Loved that video, my fav part was definitely the Huey doing the taildragger
>>154999680
There a link to said video?
>tfw don't really feel like flying anything combat-related and general aviation sims are dead as fuck so I've been playing euro truck sim and listening to podcasts all night
the most accurate part of the simulation is how comfy it is
>>155001001
Post truck sims anon
>>155001605
There's not much to post about desu. It's literally just driving, hopefully in a straight line (twisties mean lots of braking unless you're playing babymode where 100kmh hairpins can't turn you over) with the most threatening thing being traffic/low speed limits/fatigue
Also I started playing American Truck sim. The scenery is kind of samey tbqhfampai
>>154985990
Because we are poor.
PUSH
IT
TO
THE
LIMIT
>>154974129
well we were all playing games, what's your excuse?
>>155004673
thanks for the new desktoptoo bad my shitty icons will cover it up t. Jack
>Started playing cities skylines
>couple hours in
>start to wish I studied traffic engineering in college
Plon
>>155004673
WALK
ALONG
THE
RAZOR'S
EDGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo2p7mBJlK8
>>155009902
>page 10
>>155012746
>>155009393
>>155004673
Now do it with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMewaU8ugzU
>decide to spice up my trucking life
>Make up a few rules
>Must take a shot every time you cross a border
>Every fine you must take a shot
I realised how big of a mistake I made after crossing into germany for the 3rd time in a trip. Parking a trailer while thoroughly drunk is a right pain.
Why is the S.E.5 so comfy?
Woah this is some rough terrain
>>155016701
>Dirt Rally
My african american friend.
Are you off the track?
>>155016701
at least its not fucking greece, ive never managed to finish a rally in those piece of shit mountains
>>155019915
Greece is just a suicide simulator, with a controller at least.
Somehow gets even worse with a Stratos.
>Razbam is working on a mirage III as well as finishing the 2000, and aviodev is making a mirage F1
I mean the mirage family is cool but 3 examples seems a bit much
>>155020354
All those 3 aircraft are completely different in their age and characteristics.
>>155020465
this desu
>>155020465
>delta with big engine in the middle
>delta with big engine in the middle
>delta with big engine in the middle
Nice to hear that a III is being made though.
>>155020602
>Mirage F1
>delta
>french fighter jets
how the fuck did france get from jackshit to mirages? it feels like aliens landed and gave them free shit or something.
>>155017703
No, something bugged and the track never loaded. I had to verify my files
>>155020651
Well fuck, that just dawned on me. So much for that shitpost.
>>155020854
France was always pretty alright at making planes, just WWII fucked them over quite a bit to say the least.
>>155020854
American processors.
>>155006747
now play the actually challenging one
>>155020854
Charles De Gaulle said fuck you to american aircraft firms, NATO, and anyone else not french.
So they made their own shit and sold it and intervened wherever they felt like it.
I 1 6
twitch dot tv/virtualairshows
>>155024154
>virtualairshows
>VIRTUAL
>AIRSHOW
>ywn fly a comfy as fuck flight across the north atlantic
Do you reckon pilots banter with each other when ground control can't hear them?
>>155026565
Nah, they autistically stare ahead for 6 hours
>>155026565
Dont they jerk each other off?
>>155021583
Its pretty cheap now. Might pick it up and abuse it.
>10
>9
>9
>8
>9
as much as i hate it, this general is over . we had a good run.
im not bumping anymore, theres no point.
>5
what thE fuck lads OOOMMMGGGG???
>>155020978
>>155034642
>>155034918
Chill lads, I was out kart racing so I didn't bump the thread.
>>155016701
>>155017703
>>155019915
>>155020326
Dirt Rally is dank and Greece is insane, Wales gives me more of a hard time though, fucking mudshit.
RETURN PRE CONTACT
>>155039218
ready pre-contact
>>155039218
>>155039285
>>155039435
CONTACT
TAKING FUEL
RETURN PRE CONTACT
>>155041006
BREAK BREAK
RETURN PRE-CONTACT
Also I need some of these A E S T H E T I C slavshit wallapers in 1440x2560 (vertical) for my phone.
Hook a nigga up
>>155009393
do this one
>>155043206
>still no default WW2 assets
>>155044008
>DCS WW2
This dream wasn't meant to live stop now
>>155044008
>>155044393
what's wrong with war thunder?
>>155044706
>War Thunder
>>155044706
This is bait
>>155044008
>He expected a plane meant to be bought and flown by actual aviation enthusiasts just because they wanted to fly a P-51 in all its glory to somehow magically come with over a thousand different WW2 AI assets too boot
jesus christ, kid
>30 posters
jesus what did you guys do?
>>155045587
>31 Posters
Nice try kiddo i know your game
>>155045489
I expected Eagle Dynamics to actually model a couple of ground units so that all of the WW2 products they're shilling (let's not forget the whole DCS WW2 mess) are actually usable.
P-51, Bf 109, Fw-190, upcoming P-47, Spitfire, P-40, etc. are all nigh unflyable without gigs and gigs of mods because there is no stock WW2 anti-air artillery, they throw them into the sky against Shilkas, Zu-23s, rather than having columns of soft targets and unarmed armoured vehicles to strafe, they put you in instant action/single player missions against columns of half a dozen BTR's with their laser accurate auto cannons spraying at you.
My fault for expecting ED to pull their thumb out of their ass after letting every retard who can make a vaguely passable plane in a modelling program make modules while they collect royalties.
F-5s literally turn invisible after the merge. Especially after playing IL2 BoS lately, I'm so fucking sick of how impossible it is to see airplanes WVR in DCS.
>>155045996
>My fault for expecting ED to pull their thumb out of their ass after letting every retard who can make a vaguely passable plane in a modelling program make modules while they collect royalties.
pretty accurate tbqh
>>155038213
Wales is not too bad most of the time, Sweden and Greece are my killers.
>>154980442
Use it as a good opportunity to stop relying on your hud and start flying with instruments like you should do.
heh
nothing personel, kid
>>155047495
DELETE THIS
>>154984150
His gear probably failed to extend as he pissed away all the hydraulic fluid.
>>155047606
heh, you're pretty good
>>155047995
>>155047606
but not good enough xaxaxaxaxaxaxax
This plane looks pregnant.
>>155049741
4u
Гpaчи пpилeтeли!
>>155046030
>lowered resolution from 2560x1440 to 1600x900
>suddenly it's like large impostors were turned on and I can see planes everywhere and got first kill
Oh right, I forgot.
WHEN
WILL
THEY
LEARNbitrate is shit enough as it is couldn't stretch it any further
>>155052246
Is that AI?
That better be AI.
>>155052543
If only it was.
>>155052660
Did you tell him to uninstall the game after you shot him?
>>155052797
It was implied in non-verbal communication.
>Launch DCS FC3
>3 automatic activation windows pop up and load to 99% but never complete
>Can launch the game, but whenever I try to launch any sort of mission, I can only move around the briefing/map mode and can't actually get into a plane and fly.
What's goin on here?
>>155052928
works on my end
>>155052917
>Headless horseman
>>155026565
The longest I've spent in a cockpit with someone else was about 3 hours. The topics of conversation tend to be rather mundane, honestly.
>>155052660
The accomplishment, while mighty, is tempered somewhat, now
>>155052928
Did you enter the keys?
Did you buy more modules?
Are you sure it isn't a problem with your attitude?
>>155052928
Sounds like unactivated modules.
There's nothing quite like the cold and impersonal destruction of your enemies from afar
Conversely, there's little else more comfy than just you and your copilot cruising through the evening sky over the city, with all the bullshit of daily life thousands of feet below you. It's just you, your bud, and the sky.
>>155058114
>>155058334
c o m f y
Though there's certainly something to be said for flying solo, when it's just you and the sky, the sea below you and the mountains ahead
I really should take the camera up again, some time. The leaves are due to change color, soon, and it's always spectacular.
>>155058649
I'd love to get behind the stick of an old warbird sometime
>>155059164
Meant to quote
>>155058471
Whoopsie
Also, I really need to capture some shots like this with the better camera
>>155045996
>I want ED to open the floodgates and patch in shitty models with no AI from the shitty makers from the community because I dont like flying, I just to "blam-blam-blam" against tanks cuz I am a child
how about no, enjoy the models as they are, as they are the best and most realistic representations of their aircraft ever made.
>>155059737
Actually ED will add your model in the game if it's good enough.
>>155059737
>I can't read yet I'm going to type out my shitty, uninformed opinions anyway
>tony got custard
rekt
>missed the IL-2 sale, it's back to 32 bongs
>visit le 100% legit cd-key reseller site
>steam version for 15 bongs
>non steam version for 5 bongs
Any advantage in running the game on steam?
http://sa-sim.com/ramseys-f-5-vs-mig-21-grudge-match-is-back-on-twitch/
UPVOTE TONY NOW
>>155059164
>I'd love to get behind the stick of an old warbird sometime
Depending on where you live, that can be arranged. I flew pic related like 10 years ago and they're doing flights.
>>155062368
Fuck that reddit shill
>>155063084
>>155062339
None.
>>155063165
Tony "Ground-pounder" Kito
>>155063845
F
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TONY KITO WHAT A FUCKING SHITTER LEADING HIS TEAM INTO TURN FIGHTS WITH F5'S
>>155065074
t.Custard
>>155065214
>look at grudge match chat on twitch
>see this
>>155065838
I blocked him on the spot
>>155065838
>mfw the f-5s won
>>155062339
Don't get the shitty key site version, that the shitty version that you have to unlock shit on.
Buy a physical copy of amazon!
>>155066583
>tfw MVP
good game lads
>tfw when custard is your waifu, but tony and scoops are also your waifus
i don't know who to root for
>>155067085
really makes you think
oh shit sorry lads
>>155067529
dont call me top ace again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0uSOjnRm3U
>mfw "contact 11 o'clock, 10 miles!"
Comfy Afghan ops will begin around 2000 PDT / 0400 UTC if people are around and willing to play
>>155062749
There's a few places with old warbirds nearby that I know of, including a fully restored P-51C, and they did a restoration on a PBY Catalina at the airport I fly out of last year.
Also, bumping the thread with some inspiration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlzI8gKFhZc
>>155067670
>>155053649
>Underrated post
so does no mans sky get any more intense, im just jumping from planets and shit landing on settlements, hitting those way points and breaking into factories when i can
>>155013153
>>155068824
Nah, it's rubbish. 100 hours, been to the center of one galaxy. Every planet is basically the same. Your best bet is to install some mods to keep the game alive until they add some of the missing content.
>That is if they ever add half of the stuff it was supposed to have.
>>155067784
Pls provide link with necessary mods and whatnot
>>155067784
Delaying to 2030 / 0430 because I have to shit
>>155067724
>merged
>>155067719
the ace is dead ;_;
>>155073912
F
Team MiG stood no chance after they lost their Mr. Coffee.
Can someone catch me up with what happened. I was out doing bull shit.
>>155075337
Tiger team won, Fishbed team lost.
Tony Kito probably went to kill himself before he was sent to gulag.
>>155076160
>>155073461
Well, everyone's asleep again so never mind.
>>155081690
If it weren't for the background being fuzzed in a very distinctly digital camera way, that almost looks like a screenshot of something.
>losing to custard
>in literally anything
kill your self you fucking failures
>ez mode jet wins
not surprised tbqh
>>155085119
>getting blown the literal fuck out infront of Cobra
>"The migs got blown out of the sky"
Embarrassing.
At least Custard got fucked every time he tried to do anything lol
>>155085307
too obvious?
>>155078020
I'll participate in it tomorrow if it's hosted at 2200UTC desu senpai
Just when Operation Monsun couldn't get any harder
how did we get blown out so hard
fuck you tony
>>155088532
I had nothing to do with the grudge match, but I was flying earlier today on a MiG-21 vs F-5 server.
The MiG doesn't have the advantages that it used to. With the radar gimped to hell and back, you lose the head on first shot advantage that you used to have. The F-5 also got its seekers fixed, so it's much easier to aim. The F-5 has a hell of a lot more cockpit visibility as well, which makes it better in a dogfight.
I don't know what visibility settings were on in the server, but under most circumstances the F-5 is really, really hard to see. Because of their light blue color (for the default skin anyway) they blend in so well to backgrounds that they're near impossible to see at all ranges. MiGs tend to have dark paint schemes as well, so it makes spotting MiGs significantly easier, plus F-5s have the much more open cockpit as well.
The MiG still carries more missiles (4 on a typical loadout, 6 if you're a madman), and vanilla R-60s are better than AIM-9P if you're restricted to rear aspect only. The MiG also still has a significant engine power advantage, but with how fucking hard it is to see F-5s, coupled with the highly restrictive cockpit, maintaining sight enough to take advantage of that becomes very difficult to leverage.
Historically, the F-5 was better than the MiG-21 in tests.
memes
>>155092449
>tfw we finally have a draw fag
we big boy general now
>MiGs didn't win AGAINST ALL ODDS
Well that's disappointing tbqh. At least Tony still kicked ass and Sol was the one who lasted the longest.
>>155095451
>>155088532
>>155085336
>>155084304
At least I take full responsibility for the fact that I was guilty of not deciding our tactics proper, I just went with what the team said and that got us all fucked. Furthermore I openly said I'd step down from any future team captaincies for team MiG-21
>>155085336
><51> guys just kept flying into my missiles
You don't need to try much against those miggers t b h.
So I am migrating to opentrack since freetrack is fucked now, but fresh version of opentrack can't even change my ps3eye camera settings. Wat do? Anyone else had this problem?
>>155100925
match the resolution to the camera, it will inherit those settings
Maybe some one here can help me before I resort to the shithole that is the steam forums.
Anyway, I've got two versions of DCS, Steam version and non-steam version. Since Steam views them as two seperate games, when I upload screenshots from the non-steam version I have to manually move them from their original folder into the regular steam version so that they're all found in the same steam library.
However, it doesn't seem to work anymore. It just refuses to upload them all together if I change their folder.
Anyone got any idea why?
>>155102209
>I've got two versions of DCS
but why???
>>155102290
I actually don't have the steam version of DCS installed anymore, but I have the old screenshot folder that I have to use if I want my new non-steam screenshots to be in the same online library.
Otherwise they get put into two different categories and it triggers my autism.
>tfw playing a simulator of a job I could very well just go out and do myself
still comfy as fuck for idle podcast fuel tho
American Truck Sim is alright. Only three states in it (tfw can't longhaul from one coast to the other), the AI is dumb and will ram you fairly often but you'll be saddled with the fine, and there are only three goddamn models of truck in the game (no janky old cab-overs)
also having a sleeper on your truck makes absolutely no functional difference you have to pull off into parking lots marked as rest stops either way and even if the place obviously doesn't have sleeping facilities (i.e. a gas station or some shit) you can sleep there in a daycab
Quick question, what game is best if i want to get stuck into some exciting air combat?
>>155102848
What era, what level of simulation?
>>155103047
Preferably WW2 and some early Cold War era stuff. I'm going to give War Thunder a go soon, but i'm afraid it will be to much of an arcade style game.
As for level of simulation, no idea. I'm new at sims, so nothing to overcomplicated would be appreciated.
>>155103483War Thunderor IL-2 then.
If you want 3rd person views and mouse aim then WT is really your only option.
>>155103557
Gonna give it a try. Thanks anon
>>155103630
If you want an actual WW2 sim then IL-2 CLoD or BoS is your thing, but you'll need a joystick.
IL-2 multiplayer typically has forced 1st person and no icons can be very intimidating to some people, but you get used to it.
>>155102828
Waiting for the scale overhaul before I buy it. Once that kicks in, I'm also planning to get one of those turbogoy 35" curved screens to tuck me in nicely as I experience EXTREME COMFORT. I was severily addicted to the comfort of Euro Truck Sim 2 with ProMod.
also being a truck driver is a fucking horrible job
>>155103483
how arcade it is depends on the difficulty setting
"sim" is fairly realistic, has no visual aids and cockpit view only
it's also dead as fuck online, shitters play "realistic" tops, most of them in ez
>>155104215
>shitters play "realistic" tops, most of them in ez
If it weren't for the dead sim mode I would probably enjoy WT a lot more. It's not exactly "full fidelity" but it's close enough to be cheap fun with a wide variety of plens.
Is there anywhere I can watch the highlights of last nights match, or can someone summarise it?
>>155105304
could be like me and play your sim in rb
im decent enough against mouseaim so it doesn't bother me
>>155105429
twitch.tv (dot) hooks_stream/v/89933908
>>155105453
You cant use mouse aim in SB
>>155105453
I've tried it a couple times. The only way it feels good to play with a joystick is from first person, and that puts you at a pretty large disadvantage, when the game mode normally enrages me enough with "le epic spitfire that can pull 15 G's" and other such nonsense.
>>155105553
what i meant was running full sim in an RB game
>>155067932
At least someone got it
>>155105553
>Getting blown out by both Custard and VON
Can we ever recover from this? Next Fishbed captain tryouts when?
>>155107537
>flying leatherneck lel radar code planes
Watch the f14 radar be completely broken as well
>>155108286
the radar is fine now
>>155108286
Radar is fine now lad, the it being too good when inverted is still a thing though.
>>155068824
No Man's Sky is the biggest letdown since Destiny.
Actually tempted to buy sand at the sale price. I have all the aircraft modules I want at the moment
>>155109619
Wait till merged .exe's I'd say, though they could be madmen and put the price up when they add the extra airbases.
>>155109670
The eternal russo-jew is real
>>155109619
>wanting to have an extra 45 gigs on your SSD because they're too incompetent to get a map select screen working
actually laughing
>Team Fishbed
OPS WHEN?
>tfw you can feel the il2 1946-ness inside War Thunder
they share the same FM system don't they...
>>155112159
BMS ops WHEN
>>155114468
IL-2 at least doesn't have ludicrous torque
How do I pitch up more than 90 degrees in opentrack?
>>155114468
They have nothing in common, but I would say that War Thunder is about on the same level of realism as 46. At least on the planes with working and finished flight models anyway.
>>155047916
actually I found the article
he landed so hard the main gear straight up ripped off
nobody was even injured tho
>it's a freeware is infinitely better than payware episode
>>155121787
Who are you quoting?
>>155122891
myself
the Ready for Pushback 747 is infinitely superior to the CLS 747
RFP is Freeware
CLS isn't
Same with the Thomas Ruth Airbus shit
Bump
>>155124168
Belka STRONK
>>155124168
G I B
I
B
Why didn't WAT post his awesome video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IYoniVyn3U
I see him lurking around, and more should know about this
>>155116015
>They have nothing in common
They did use that IL-2 which everyone pretends it doesnt exist as base though.
>>155126937
IL-2 Birds/Wings of Prey has nothing to do with the Oleg Maddox IL-2. That was Gaijin's own internal engine using the IL-2 name for brand recognition.
Speaking of Maddox, whatever happened to him? Ever since the Cliffs of Dover fiasco I haven't heard anything.
>>155127392
Maddox is dead because of CLOD and now 777 and 1C has taken the helm
Remember that no matter how bad DCS, IL2, etc. get, at least flight sims aren't in as shitty a place as racing sims and their community is.
So what do the missions in IL2 BOS involve?
And would it be possible to create missions like that in DCS?
>>155127392
Oleg made the DCS WW2 kickstarter, then he took the money and disappeared.
>>155128290
>So what do the missions in IL2 BOS involve?
Mosty what DCS has got
>And would it be possible to create missions like that in DCS?
Yes but it make seem hard to someone whos new to the editer
>>155126234
Post it where, he linked it here
>>155128640
>Mosty what DCS has got
DCS has airquack, i know IL2 has objectives and missions actually end.
>Yes but it make seem hard to someone whos new to the editer
I'm not new to the editor though.
>>155128882
Then you will be fine then
>>155129895
Yeah but what are the missions?
I don't have IL2 BOS
>>155130285
>For SP its a "campaign" which really is a just a quick mission gen unless you use PWCG(3rd party campagin gen) which is what you should use if you want SP at all
>For MP
Most servers are dead or with about 30 poeple on but some are very much alive such as
"Duel and Dogfight" - Pure AirQuake fun
Wings of lib - 84 Player PVP with objectives
TAW/TAC - Same as WOL but hardcore(no map icons so you must do everything by eye)
>>155131039
Fuck i really sodded that post but i hope you get what i mean
>>155131039
>84 Player PVP with objectives
What are the objectives? Can you win a game? Does doing objectives matter or is it just DCS air quake?
>>155131309
You can only win by doing your missions which are attacking ground units like boats cites airfields tank companys and if you dont you will likely run out of aircraft as teams have a limit on how much planes they have (which resets at mission change)
>>155131039
>PWCG
Didnt knew modders made a campaign generator for BoS. So the SP is playable now?
>>155132215
>Doesnt even kill it
w e a k
>>155132351
but he died, he never pulled out of that dive
>>155132351
There's no way someone can recover from that damage. Were you expecting a huge blast or something?
>>155132087
It was made for Rise of flight but he made it work with BOS/BOM
>>155131802
Can you explain more about the objectives, could you perhaps give a screenshot of the unit placements and airfields and such?
>>155133269
Objectives will range from bombing airfields and caches, ports on the Volga or trains and convoys. Pontoon bridges are a common target too
>>155133535
Thanks
>>155134214
>German = blue
>Russians = red
New campaign when
I've started playing Wargame: Red Dragon. Is /wgg/ dead now?
>>155137801
Yes.
>>155137937
>>155139013
>plane doesn't simply disintegrate
even WT isn't this bad, and it's DM is literally bottom of the dumpster bad
>>155139876
ITT: Sims that were fun and had soul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=604jmTM4enc
>>155143846
Go play Ace Combat. If it's not simulationg a plane it's not realistic and therefore has no place in flight simulations.
>>155144205
but it says simulator right there on the tin, familia!
also it's fairly decent simulation, not IL-2 or DCS-tier but hey whatever dude, as long as it's allows me to light zekes ablaze.
>>155144645
>Aces Studio is never coming back
hold me while I sob my soul out, /simg/
>>155143846
>had soul
what gives a soul to the game?
>>155147450
It's like an aesthetic thing, in part. How the game looks, any music it might use, if it has a narrative thread then what sort of themes are evoked with that and what sort of characters are involved.
There's also an actual mechanical gameplay element to it, what sort of game modes are available and how fun they are. This is the big thing that makes most sims feel soleless- they get the "simulator" part right, but they don't really give you any game to go with it
Ah, the old stomping grounds.
They don't look quite so splendid when rendered by FSX...
>>155148648
This, it's why it's hard to play IL-2 or BMS and then go back to DCS, it has a great simulation but no soul. It's a great sim but a bad game, the other two are good both.
>>155148648
Why do you think I unironically enjoyTake On Helicopters?
It's a mediocre sim, but it's got heart. I do wishBISsupported it long enough to make it anything more than a tech demo, and actually put airports in it, as opposed to painted-on textures
>>155151018
Same reason I tend to play SABOW, a relatively survey-level tanksim with a limited vehicle selection and scope, over Steel Beasts, a sim wherein vehicles generally have more detailed fire control system simulation and a much wider range of available vehicles
SABOW is a much better "feeling" game. Tanks feel heavy, the sound design is loud and noisy and chaotic, getting hit is absolutely terrifying if you really get yourself into the game and have headphones on. And it actually has pre-made content to play, alongside a dynamic campaign... where Steel Beasts has a few fixed single missions and relies on you and the community to make everything else.
Graviteam pls make another WWII tank sim using the Tactics engine
>>155151545
>Half assed BIS shovelware has heart
Now anon.
>>155152929
Speaking of BIS shovelware, how did Take on Mars turn out?
I bought it early on because it was a neat idea but it was horribly grindy and boring. Haven't really played it since, saw they were adding a bunch of manned mission shit that I don't care about at all
>>155153139
It's shovelware, again. Unless it's calledArma(and even when it is, honestly), they don't care.
It's a damn shame, too, it had a ton of potential. I managed to build quite an impressive base. They patched it a lot, but they never fixed the clunky interface, slow base-building, ever-prevalent BIS bugs, and framerate drops. It's very dependent on MP, but the servers are a ghost town last I looked.
>>155155674
I dunno, the base-building shit never seemed all that interesting to me. The idea of commanding probes and stuff, doing science shit with rover-based tools, dealing with communications delays- that was what got me to buy it.
Sucks.BIS is a shit company.
>>155155925
BIS is the definition of "good idea, bad execution", especially with their Take On series.
>TOH
Eurotruck Simulator in the sky is a glorious idea, but it's a bug-riddled, incomplete mess
>TOM
Probe Mars and build spess colonies from scratch using only the available resources. Again, an amazing idea, with the same sloppiness and incompleteness that permeates all their efforts.
>>155150272
>fly helo irl
>fly helo in fsx
why?
>>155156859
The rotorcraft aerodynamic modeling is sub-par in FSX, to be sure, but it's actually pretty useful to scout out a flight plan before I fly it, especially if I haven't been to the destination, before, and importing real-world weather from Jeppsen helps give me a general idea of what to expect. It's shockingly useful for a $20 piece of recreational software.
I'd go for XP10, but it's a bit too pricey and resource-heavy for me to make the hop.
It also helped me work on the flare at the end of an autorotation thanks to its easy-mode flight model giving me a break if I dumped rotor RPM, and also gave me an early primer on properly filling out a weight and balance sheet.
Bumping with St. Elmo's Fire.
Never seen it myself, but I'm not about to take a light helicopter with a propensity for mast-bumping in turbulence into a thunderhead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1luqXNqC1c
And another bump, this time with some next-level shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVMCCH6H6pA
bump
>>155168759
>Greg goes driving
>>155164552
Now that's some next level autism right there. For the time and money he put into that he probably could have at least got his PPL.
That loud audible click of the levers, buttons, and switches though seems pretty god damn satisfying.
Don't die on me
>>155168823
It's okay he can use his government money and buy a new euro shit mobile.
>>155164552
>400
>not 200/300
is shit
>>155169238
What's even the difference?
Sorry I don't like stupid fat flying buses.
>>155067793
Fuck, those timelapses at 1:50. If I was an airline pilot my life would be dedicated to taking those and shitposting new ones all over 4chan to distract people.
>>155169852
>he doesn't like the 747
how shit can one's taste be baka
>>155169238
Steam gauges give a cockpit character, sure, but a glass cockpit offers much more accurate readouts. The big problem keeping them from being adopted by more people in the GA community is their price
What kind of chafes my ass, though, is the fact that they're ditching transponders with alt. encoding all across the US fairly soon, and forcing people to put ADS-B in its place, which is going to be expensive as fuck for everyone who owns, and that price is going to end up falling on us renters and aircraft club members, too, just because of the heightened maintenance costs
>>155128290
>Oleg
You mean Ilya
>>155126937
They didnt, Gaijin paid for the IL-2 name and took some 3d assets, but the flight modeling and everything else was their own half assed doing.
Just look at Birds of Prey, they couldnt even bother to model the right planes with the right cockpits. The P-51 has the P-47's cockpit for christ sake
>>155175271
P-51 has the P-47 cockpit
What
the
fuck
BUMP
>>155179958
send help, i'm actually unironically stating to have feelings for planes.. that poor mig must be so cold
:(
>>155181020
>>154973081
Does this general include arma games?
>>155181485
>tfw i will never be drafted into the vvs and then having to tame my own fighter
>>155184936
I know that feel bro
>>155185583
oops wrong image
>9
This is the end
Hold your stick and count to ten
Feel the sukhoi move and then
Hear my wings snap again
For this is the end
I've took off and dreamt this moment
So overdue, I curse them
Swept away, I'm ejecting
LET THE WINGS SNAP
WHEN THEY CRUMBLE
WE WILL PUNCH OUT
EJECT AND JOIN AGAIN
LET THE SU FALL
WHEN IT HITS THE GROUND
WE WILL FLY MIKOYAN
NEXT TIME TOGETHER
>>155187962
this desu senpai baka
>>155155674
> Unless it's called Arma (and even when it is, honestly), they don't care.
They do care about arma, but they don't give a shit about everything else
Arma is getting constant patches and stuff
t. hardcore arma player
>9
>>155189152
They care about arma but are too incompetent. And no one knows how that engine works anymore. its been lost to time
>>155073548
>You came to the wrong neighbourhood motherfucker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScM_rN9a-js
Interesting video
>1.5gb DCS patch
whut?
:^)))))))))
>>154988526
delete this
BOMP
Grudge Match 3 when?
>>155199194
pls no, tony can only take so much
>10
>>155204671
This is the face of the enemy
>>155185670
...That's the same image
>>155190908
>And no one knows how that engine works anymore.
I'm myself amazed how it works so nicely with Tanoa map which jungles are dense af
They're running it on somekind miracle dust or something, and I don't understand how my pentium g3460 even runs it fluently
>>155199194
I want to see greg try to dogfight a Piper Cub armed with nothing but a shotgun and an angry old man in the front seat yelling obscenities at him
What happened? Why did the Mig-21's get absolutely destroyed?
>>155207918
Bad leadership on my part, desu. I'm fairly certain that we could've come out on top had I not been so lax regarding strategies.
>>155207918
Same reason they won in the first round, the team with the plan won. The MiGs were cocky and didn't bother with much tactics beyond:
>:DDDD LEDS GILL EM :DDD
>>155209415
First engagement looks like they had a plan, trying to bait the Tigers into SAM's, and then the Tigers ran with low fuel with Migs on their tail, how the hell do you lose from this position?
>>155209668
I was just going off what Tony told me, he said that <51> Tek wasn't really interested in having a plan.
>>155209963
He's a pretty big meme man when i think about it.
>>155016701
>Renault Alpine
best taste
>>155047113
shit's so wet you need a fucking boat to get through whales
>10
>10
>>155211118
I don't deny this
>10
>again
hello
So do webms like this one trigger PTSD now?
>10
>>155222658
>I made that webm
>I helped btfo the MiGs the other day
I'm a traitor aren't I?
>>155222780
DIE BЫ ФAШИCTCКИЙ
>>155073734
what game is this
>>155223523
Il-2 BOS
2.5 when? I want ED to get dat pretty map out so they can actually work on the game more.
*cums*
Are the indexes not updating for anyone else?
uuuunnnff
>10
>9
Friendly reminder that this kills the slav.
you're a big nig
Lucky those clouds cleared up, these valleys are treacherous
>>155233778
is this a class g airspace boyo otherwise the faa is gonna diddle ur bum
Holy shit i got 4 Kills in a I16
>>155234025
If it were real life I wouldn't have taken my gear off the ground, the cloud deck was under 3,000 when I left
>>155233778
>unironically flying in dangerous situations
>not just comf flying
shit taste 2bqh fampai
>>155236617
how low we talking
>what is filing ifr
>>155238141
DCS B-17 fucking when
>>155238291
>standalone B-17 game
>multiplayer, every crew member is a player
>missions start in breifing room
>everyone gets in jeeps and drives to bomber
>everyone performs starting procedures
>comfy flight towards the enemy (this part might be slightly accelerated due to time constraints)
>fucking fully modeled and fully walk-able interiors
>uses newest frostbite engine for the most dank fucking effects
>super atmospheric with orgasm inducing damage effects
>stark contrast between clean health plane on the way to target, version damaged, dirty, bloody plane on the way home
Imagine a game like that in VR.
I would literally shit and cum for 24 hours non-stop
>>155238291
A2A has a very good rendition of it in FSX
>>155238864
>clean healthy plane versus damaged, dirty, bloody one
*
>>155238912
>FSX payware
>no capabilities for battle damage
>no capabilities for actual bombing missions
no thanks fampai
part of the appeal of a heavy bomber sim would be dealing with battle damage.
>>155239026
alyuohp
allyo op
allyop for the
SLAM DUNK
>>155239192
You got a point. I just pirated it desu
>>155237542
It was MVFR and worse with severe terrain obscuration
>>155237224
>Not breaking the rules when there's no repercussions
>>155238864
Well, there's Aces High and B-17: The Mighty Eighth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqp_e9ve904
And here's a guy eating his microphone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jAnpFtWWuo
>>155246567
Aces High kinda looks like fun, is it free?
>>155247816
Jews made you pay by month or its shit tier
Fuck me Airquake is boring. I can't go back to this after the playing on the sporadically avaiable MiG-21/F-5 servers.
>>155250286
After Blue Flag I can't touch any other server 2bh
>>155250286
104th airquake has become everything I hate about DCS concentrated into one server.
>become
Yeah I know.
hello
>>155250585
A 24/7 server that runs a scaled down version of blue flag would save DCS multiplayer 2bh
Same concept. Have a couple of air fields as objectives, a couple as spawns, and leave everything the same.
Just condense the AO to smaller sections of the map.
Gives you a server that lets you fly everything and be useful towards an actual objective that requires slight team work.
Every server reset it changes mission to the same thing, but in different areas.
As fucking dank as that would be, faggots would still fucking fly the 104th and have the time of their lives somehow.
Some of those dudes have been flying 104th for fucking YEARS and still aren't bored of doing literally the exact same shit every day.
Seaplanes are fairly big around my neck of the woods, it makes me think about starting a business a la Tailspin sometime after I get a commercial rate
>look at DCS because i have yet to play a modern plon simulator
>min requirements: 2GB video card
>i have a 512 mb card
Will it run
>>155262265
Needs like 8gb ram too or you'll get a stutter hell, I belive.
>75% death rate
>>155265480
but we can drink while dieing
>>155264919
I got 10 so theres that
>>155266924
Give it a try then. Nothing to lose.
>>155194747
Thanks watched it
It seems expert isn't biased by any side, and talking reality, that makes it pretty good
>>155268969
Well that's what actual expert is.
>>155255392
104th is the cancer that's killing DCS, for the good of the game it needs to be DDoSd T B H.
And the retards that play on it and wont play on any other server, make it nigh impossible to get a different server populated.
Though the DCS community is so retarded it will always flock the worst server available, because for some fucking reason open conflict is popular.
I had a guy on steam he once told me.
>I only play on 104th lol
The disgust i felt as i was reading that was unimaginable.
>>155275115
Not very often you see an actual expert..
>>155275294
Its decently populated, and thats rare.
>>155246567
I used to play a combat flight sim when I was a kid in like the nineties or early 00's, from what I recall it was just spitfire variants (not sure), but it had those dank main menu screens where you click on the folders for briefings, radio for settings, etc.
Anyone remember what the name might have been?
I'm not super into civi stuff but the Tu-144 is such a cool plane in my eyes. You can call it a rip off concorde if you want but the fact is the Tu-144 has retractable winglets that make it look like a pupper who wants head pats and the Concorde doesn't so I think it's clear which one's more aesthetic.
>>155277932
P E T T H E P U P P E R
How does one get into sim games like these? I only ask because a friend of mine mentioned that DCS world has my favorite plane.
>>155278957
Really just have a passion for it and be willing to learn. What plane is this? (This is a loaded question you better not disappoint)
>>155279043
Pic related. Though, all of my friends say I'm retarded for liking it.
>>155279260
Well you didn't say F-15 at least so there is some hope for you. I mean honestly if you're willing to learn there are people in this sub willing to teach. The F-5 is kinda neat, I like it for the 3rd gen aesthetics.
Basically what you need is: A joystick
A PC capable of running DCS World 1.5
Buying the F-5.
Eventually if you do get into it you may want to invest in head tracking but it's not necessary right away.
Also you have to be aware that this is autism level sim stuff so expect a big learning wall when you start.
>>155279425
Cool, I'm guessing that the pastebin has recommendations for flightsticks?
>>155280342
There is also this
>>155279260
mah nigga
>>155280342
T16000M or T-Flight Hotas X are both decent cheap sticks, >>155280390 deals mostly with the more expensive HOTAS setups.
>>155279425
>so expect a big learning wall when you start.
the F-5 is super simple tho, like the most difficult part of it is starting the damn thing up really. It was designed so that uneducated rice farmers could fly it.
>>155280390
>>155280431
Cool, thanks for the help. Looks like I have some reading to do.
Why is the IAE V2500 such a great engine?
>>155283391
>airbus
>>155283669
>what is the MD-90
Here are people in this thread that Still play DCS
>>155279425
>Well you didn't say F-15 at least so there is some hope for you.
>There's hope for you
>for wanting to fly the easiest clickpit that requires no button presses after take off
Rear gunner optic field mod for A-20B when?
>>155275294
What's wrong with Open Conflict?
>>155289186
Openconflict is the best way to do airquake desu, it's light years ahead of the knuckle-dragging 104th 'bullsye fight' missions.
>>155283891
The F-5 is at least harder to fight in than
>Infinite energy BVR spamraam then split S
>>155283891
If you don't want to count weapon selection (which both planes have to do) that's no different from the MiG-21. If anything there's more to keep in mind, if only because you need to be conscious of keeping your fuel tanks balanced.
That's a pretty retarded point to make either way. Most of your clicking in the cockpit is done just to get a plane running. Once you're in the air it just becomes managing weapons systems and we don't have any fighters yet with complex guided weapons yet.
did you miss me :3c
>>155280390
>deleting the version number
O P S W H E N
>>155292990BMSops now if you want to.
>>155289267
The spawns are pretty retarded and the somehow the ground pound game manages to be worse than 104th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzX63aoJ6JA
>that chinese blue digi camo
Why?
>>155295156
The 104th ground pound game is shite because it puts the objectives out of the way of fighters so there isn't even an element of responsibility in being a fighter
>>155295485
But it's the same with open conflict.
>>155295563
In open conflict the ground targets are in the same area as the fighters
>>155290485
>That's a pretty retarded point to make either way. Most of your clicking in the cockpit is done just to get a plane running.
That was the point..... the F5 or practically any other click fighter is no different than any FC3 plane after take off
>>155296349
The point isn't complexity of cockpit clicking, rather the F-15 is brainded to fight in
>descending to a destination
>decide to tell the ATC to fuck himself and vector myself in
>easiest approach and landing I've ever had
wew
>>155295917
Ehh not really, also helicopters are still separated so i can't go bully ka-50s flying for the wrong color.
>>155295485
104th is joyless autism
looking to start making dcs ops. what do you look for in a good op?
setting?
mission type?
plane selection?
should it have random elements?
>>155290485
>>155296349
F/A-18 when?
>>155300480
Doesn't matter
Anything goes
As much as the mission allows for, remember that not everyone has all the modules. Try and include atleast one FC3 plane (because everyone has that) and/or the SU-25T (because it's free). The more restrictive you are with plane selection, the less likely we can all play it. It's also important to note, that if you add the MiG-29, people will fly nothing else, meme around with rockets and get nothing done.
Yes
>>155300795
Be as restrictive with the plane types available as you like but include at least 1 FC3 plane.
Pls put a modicum of effort into briefing, images are a big help and need not be fancy.
>>155300795
>>155301276
What playercount should I make the mission for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaYdkII9o8k
>>155303658
>The prettiest geisha girls entertain them
>THEM TEETH.
>>155303658
>All those madmen
>>155304410
Now do a slow mo version.
>>155306338
Make me
>>155304410
>tfw I would have fucked that shot up
>>155308357
Would you fuck up >>155236916 ?
>Yes :^)
>>155308667
I can never hit snapshots like that so yes
>>155279260
To be honest unless you're autistic like the rest of us, there's very little click switching involved since you can auto-start the planes and then basically just need to turn your master arm on to enable weapons, maybe a couple of extra switches to cool your seeker heads and turn on the radar in the case of the F-5 (don't own it but have similar planes) and it's basically just point and shoot. If you do any single player missions that start with you already in the air most of this is already done for you.
Then you can just work backwards, once you know the flight controls and weapon controls, and learn the engine start up, etc.
>>155297768
>do the same thing
>CFIT into mountain
my GPWS didn't even activate
>>155297127
>I'm going to complain about the next module that has aim-120s too
>>155309872
>since you can auto-start the planes
p l e b
you will be bullied relentlessly for this
>>155309872
>>155311632
>He unironically admits to autostarting planes.
Please remove yourself.
At least make an attempt anon, fuck.
>>155311632
>tfw the only thing i ever autostart is the fucking Mi-8 because fuck this
>there's very little click switching involved since you can auto-start the planes
>ywn reenact KAL 007 in DCS
>>155311956
>Weeb mirage faggot telling others to kill themselves.
>>155311993
We can spawn a tanker for that to act as KAL 007
>>155312182
Can we mod the tanker model to be a 747?Are 3rd party mods for DCS even a thing?
>>155311997
I hate the weeb mirage faggot but at least he can probably start his weeb mirage.
Like c'mon we all autostart some times when we haven't learned the procedure or first buy an aircraft but literally autostarting everytime?
What's wrong with you.
>>155312250
Sort of, i think there's an 747 in the forum somewhere, but you know
>Going to ED Gulag
>2016
>>155312250
There are a lot of DCS Mods, but I don't think there are any model swap mods that are public.
That would probably cause a lot of issues.
>>155312384
Found it, no DL though, the OP is b&, and it's from 2008
>>155312291
I'm a lazy bum.
I mean i know how to start it up, i know all the functions, but i'm still a lazy bum.
>>155312778
>OP is banned
>ED Forums
like pottery
>>155312905
Can we purge shitspawn?
>>155313343
slip in a little envelope to Chiz if you know what i mean.
>>155312837
You're a pussy is what you are.
>>155314068
Well i'm the one eating a sandwich, while your the one clicking asinine bullshit.
>>155314142
>merely pretending
DCS being a good game when?
>>155314785
>>155314785
Two More WeeksTM :^)
In the meantime just buy more modules.
If you buy Sand we might develop faster.
>>155314785
Release date:When wags can walk
.10
AFGHAN OPS GET IN TS
>>155304410
Western Front when?
Fuck, MTO when?
Those ops were comfy
Sub ops when?
Got a couple of people, just need one or two more for a full crew. Won't be until tomorrow at the earliest tho.
>new DCS patch
>only host can see static objects now in multi
>>155330185
Is this for real?
Did you try re-saving the mission in the editor?
should i?
>>155335126
Jew it
>>155335126
It's okay.
>it's a GGTharos post
>>155335332
Anything better? I only own the hog right now
>>155335746
Become a real rotary wing nigga
>>155335746
Depends entirely on what you want to do and what you like doing. If you modern jet dogfighting M2000 is your only fully simulated option. If you like helicopters the Ka-50 is very good and so is the Huey. If you like quirky as fuck Soviet meme interceptors the MiG-21 is great.
>>155335783
>>155336260
I have considered helo, but I don't own rudder pedals right now (i use joystick twist)
>Ahnenerbe is literally the only 1920x1080 mod for SH3
>It doesnt work
fuck off
So why exactly has /simg/ fallen off a cliff?
Did everyone that is worth a shit leave?
Is there nothing to talk about?
>>155340271
Shitposters were keeping it bumped and at it most active, but now they seem to have left.I prefer it this way.
>>155336679
Get the ka-50 then. It requires minimal usage of rudder.
>>155289267
Openconflict is full of massive scrubs and the Russian datalink is borderline cheating.
>>155341525
>Russian datalink is borderline cheating
t. AAMRAM
>>155341525
>Posted from my F-15C
S C U B A
>>155341613
>>155341630
>looool, look at me, i can see all the planes all the time!!!!
Yeah, totally not cheating.
reminder that this cunt singlehandedly caused aviation's worst disaster
>>155344738
>Oh shit
>>155345117
>PH-BUF started rotation
>[scream]
>collision
natural selection in process, folks
>>155341035
>helo requireso no usage of rudder
>I just hope the wind turns me in the direction I want to in hovers and slow speed
The Ka50 is what lead to my first rudder pedal purchase when it was first released. Flying with and without them is night and fucking day
>>155344738
There's a few dipshits that slip through the cracks
>Engine failure on 1
>Attempt to restart 2
>Now both out
>"Oops"
>>155323259
What game is this?
>>155336260
>He doesn't like the Mi-8
Either you're a delusional natoboo fagot or you've never given it a real chance.
>>155349836I don't fly helicopters at all. Too slow.
FAT
A
T
>>155350459
UUUHHNNNNGGGNNNNHHH
THICCERRRRR!
>>155350459
>>155351027
>10
>>155354069
again
>>155347808
>here's a few dipshits that slip through the cracks
Can confirm the most recent crash locally was caused by a dip shit that piloted it worse than an FSX amateur.
>plane starts entering into a stall due to bad weather conditions preventing proper airflow across the wings on approach
>proper procedure is to let the plane nose down and activate the engines to build up enough speed to prevent stalling
>The pilot instead decides to keep the engines powered down and increase flaps while pulling the nose way the fuck up further worsening the stall
>plane smashes into a house, killing everyone on board, one person in the house and injuring the rest of the family in the house
I just don't understand how a set of pilots with thousands of hours logged can pull such a fucking rookie ass mistake.
>>155358765
That is just plain retarded.
Dude, I don't know jack shit about airplanes, but if I was going to stall, I would nose dive the fuck out of it. I mean, not go 45 degrees, but you get my point.
>>155359963
Yep, it's better to look like a fucking jackass than have a bunch of dead people. The pilot overrode the safeties on the plane and then did the exact opposite of what flight school says to do when in a stall.
>>155358765
>stalling
>I know, let's increase drag and AOA
Good damn these fucking idiots.
Post DCS/BMS webms.
>>155361979
>>155361979
thanks stim, that gunrun killed my fps
>>155362164
Kras was in the Mi-8, Stim was the one recording.
Anyone wanna fly some MI-8 with me?
>mi8 post
>select all buses
>>155362459
>Needs to move out of the way
>Goes into him and takes off a wing
N I C E J O B
>>155362573
>didn't even touch him, he did that to himself
>>155362459
Senpai you need dis:
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1898778/
Dis cockpit is dank af.
will you be joining in on /ovg/'s WEC series in rfactor 2 anon?
How do I download cracked PMDG for FSX?
Is there any way to escape the belly flop of death in the flanker? I mean I know I'm an idiot for making it flop in the first place, but still.
>>155362778
thats what im using
>>155362459
I prefer the Huey to the Hip
>>155358765
I guess no one taught the guy what that violent shaking meant.
>>155349836
Mi-8's fun enough, but it lacks the maneuverability I like in a chopper, and landing approaches in it are almost fixed wing-esque. I also appreciate a simpler startup procedure.
>Using Delilah Man In The Loop against Patriot FCR
Needle in the Sinai desert.
>>155341807
No you can only see planes in range, and visible to the radar.
Oh and it's not the datalink from SP, in SP planes in the same group can datalink to other planes, while that doesn't work in MP.
>>155335684
>Read Russian forums for a bit
>GGtharos posting there in english like the autistic fuck he is.
>>155344738
>dutchmen
>flying
NOT EVEN
MOTHERFUCKING
ONCE
>>155344738
Reminder that when KLM heard they'd had a fatal accident one of their first phonecalls was to him to call him in to help with the investigation... until they realised who was flying.
>>155358765
Buffalo Q400 crash? Poor training and fatigue were big reasons behind that one, lurking in the background waiting to cost them an airplane.
>>155349686
Depends, I need a fully qualified radio operator/sonar technician, able to operate the sonar equipment while decoding intercepted German radio messages.
You game?
>>155370547
Wrong image, this will be your new home.
>>155262265
What card is it? What's your CPU?
>>155358765
Literally air france 447 minus the crashing into a house
I still can't believe that there was a retard who thought pulling up in an aerodynamic stall was a good idea
>>155370362
Looks like their "best" pilot really was their worst
Even his crew members protested but they were too beta to simply pull back on the throttles and tell the dumbass he wasn't cleared for takeoff.
So many crashes happen because the pilot's a retard and his crew members are complete betas. It's sad.
>>155372391
>Looks like their "best" pilot really was their worst
>Even his crew members protested but they were too beta to simply pull back on the throttles and tell the dumbass he wasn't cleared for takeoff.
>So many crashes happen because the pilot's a retard and his crew members are complete betas. It's sad.
That very fact pretty much created the "CRM" movement in pilot and crew training that set out to wipe out the obedient First Officer watching the crash happen just like they thought it would because they were too shit scared to tell the Captain, God in the Cockpit. It's nowhere near as much of an issue these days, at least not in western airlines, but still a big issue in Asian airlines still.
>>155372593
>the CRM movement was set to stop that
>birgenair flight 301 still happened almost 20 years later
>>155372659
>Turkish airline
>Western airline
>>155372817
you do have a point, they were turkroaches
also,
>KLM
>western
>>155372391
Jesus how much of a beta do you need to be to let yourself die.
>>155373989
Beta enough to think the retard at the controls isn't in the process of killing you
>>155344738
It's not his fault that the tower was manned by monkeys who couldn't speak English.
>>155358765
>Stalling
>I'LL FURTHER INCREASE DRAG IN EXCHANGE OF A LITTLE EXTRA LIFT
>>155374901
Greg go home you're as much of a fuckup as he is.
>>155375094
>Greg go home you're as much of a fuckup as he is.
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>>155375696
>more russian op planes while the fw and bf are incredibly underpowered
>>155372940
Which is ultimately why western airlines set up CRM, or did you not read any of the earlier post?
>>155375738
>He actually believes this
>He's actually bad
>>155375738
>Muh G-6 With 30mm shill cannons
>>155375738
But it's an american plane.
OPS WHEN?!
>>155377553
Owls are the Nachtjägers of birds
I'll be up for ops in 20
>>155379460
>Pooh's Tomcat Derby
>>155370441
Yep, the Q400. Just watched the black box telemetry of it, I'm fucking amazed at watching it.
>Instead of giving the nose more angle, let's put the gears up
>>155374901
But they did and and gave him correct information
he was just a retard and decided to takeoff after he got vectors for after he was cleared for takeoff.Though the root problem is the dutch decided that if you flew too much they would delete your pilot's license because "xD this is going to help anything". The problem is always going to be that the dutch are swampniggers.
>>155380234
That was a shitshow from start to finish.
>>155380234
>we're losing speed, lets pull the nose up
shit like this just confuses me
it is literally too retarded for my brain to process
>>155380234
>>155380747
>>155380639
This, AF447, the ATR someone posted up thread and a number of other accidents in recent times are symptomatic of the new trend in aviation - handling accidents.
For decades, the most common cause of a crash was CFIT - "controlled flight into terrain" - that is, when you hit a hill you didn't realise was there. EGPWS and navigational improvements - and increased use of, and sophistication of automation have almost wiped CFIT accidents out in airlines.
The double edged sword of that reliance - some say over-reliance - on automation is that pilots' hand flying skills have atrophied, and basic stick and rudder flying and response to stalls, unusual attitudes, etc, are not what they used to be. Add to that the fact that new second and first officers are coming to the line with less and less experience, and the most common cause of crashes in the last ten years will end up being poor exercise of basic airmanship and basic flying skills.
It's starting to see some correction in simulator sessions and checks, and it should improve, but it's going to take time - and hopefully not more lives.
>>155380912
Well I mean Alaska Airlines just implemented mandatory Aircraft Upset training
From the footage I saw, pilots have more than plenty of time to react to a stall, considering the plane generally has 30+ seconds to fly normally after the stick shaker starts before the thing actually stalls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCJco59tqoQ
>>155363152
Friendly reminder that Greg is from /ovg/
>>155381128
In the Colgan and Air France episodes, the crew had ample time to unfuck themselves, but they didn't have the ability to recognise how they'd got in the shit in the first place.
The worst part about the AF447 crash was that the poor bastard captain came back to the flight deck in time to realise what the dumb cunts had done with his aircraft, but not in time to fix it for them, and they crashed a perfectly serviceable Airbus into the ocean and died. Imagine being that poor bastard.
>>155381325
Actually if I remember correctly, the reason AF447 crashed was because the person in the pilot's seat was nosing down, but the copilot was pulling full back, meaning they couldn't regain control
the main reason they crashed was because nobody looked over and saw the copilot was being a grade F- retard
someone should've just socked that fucker in the face and had him fired
>>155380234
What
a
fucking
retard
>>155381534
I forget but was a reason because both the pilots at the time were the same rank and didn't really establish a chain of command so didn't tell each other anything?
>>155381534
>Actually if I remember correctly, the reason AF447 crashed was because the person in the pilot's seat was nosing down, but the copilot was pulling full back, meaning they couldn't regain control
That was part of it. The second officer was in the left seat - the captain's seat - while the captain had a rest break in the rest area, outside the flight deck. The first officer was in his usual seat on the right.
When it all turned to shit, yes, they were making opposite control inputs, and because the Airbus has sidestick controls that aren't mechanically linked to each other, neither could feel the opposing inputs. Because of the way the fly by wire computers work, the left-hand control inputs overrode the right hand ones (which were proper corrective action).
The captain wasn't there to see them fuck up - he came back into the cockpit at fairly low altitude, and saw what was happening, but was too late to do anything about it.
>>155381775
Could've sworn the first officer was the one that was fucking it
also I'm pretty sure airbuses have a button that switches side stick authority
>>155381947
Nope, second officer.
I can't remember the intricacies of Airbus flight controls in alternate law; I had it in my head that the left side overrules the right, or that if one side is making an input the other can't overrule it, but it's late and I can't remember categorically - I fly aircraft with controls that move together.
>tfw you will never shoot kebab and be /fa/ as fuck
Why live
>>155380234
A few years ago i was watchin a documentary about the future of civil aviation, and it said how in the future we may get AI, flying our planes, no human input at all.
I laughed and said like anyone would ever want to be in a plane without a human pilot, but a dumb computer.
After watching this however, sign me up.
>>155351027
>>155351509
>>155350459
We must go thicker
>>155385047