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Esports Edition

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://tempostorm.com
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

Previous thread: >>154885623
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Normal tournaments are so boring after batstone
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So I'm done with rank5 and am thinking about meming it up in wild. I could actually finish my way to golden rogue there.

What would a burgle rogue looks like on wild?
Or is there any cool rogue decks to do beside miracle?
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why doesn't blizzard just balance the game on a weekly/monthly basis?
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Kill all shamans
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>>154934076
Too confusing etc.
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>>154934076
because:
- That would be confusing for new players (blizz hate to change cards cause they say that "players returning to play will not understand why their cards changed" or some shit like that)
- Most likely: Not worth the effort
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>four fucking mill druids in a row
Fucking hell, what deck counters these assholes in the brawl?
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>>154934076
Lazy. Fucking. Hipsters.

Seriously, if you've ever seen how advertising creatives 'work', it's the exact same thing. They work for maybe 60 days a year at the max (being generous), and spend the rest of their time dicking around doing nothing.
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>>154934206
Anyfin paladin.
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>>154934206
Malchazar, excavated evil and/or holy nova and or any other card.
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well that took fucking forever

who /goldengul'dan/ here
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>>154934293
Excavated costs way too much to counter them, same with most aoes honestly.
Malchazar works decently enough, but naturalize still kills literally anything you play.

>>154934263
I don't know anon, usually I'd be dead to fatigue by turn 6.
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>>154934250
You made a very similar post in the last thread. However to be fair it seems like you pulled that entirely out of your ass. the team has to code and test each card in a ton of different situations. Maybe brode works 60 days a year but saying that of the entire team is pretty stupid.
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>>154934421
Malch imp soul fire silverware golem. Just hit face and pray to get lucky
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>>154934206
Rogue:
1. Preparation, Sinister Strike, Eviscerate
2. Young Dragonhawk, Conceal, Cold Blood

Hunter:
1. Mechwarper, Metaltooth Leaper, Annoy-o-Tron
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>>154934206
Mech hunter
You fill the board on turn 2 with coin or turn 3, while emptying your hand. If they clear, you do the same next turn since they drew you a full hand by doing so
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>>154934103
this kills the shaman

literally 100% winrate against aggro/midrange shaman
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>>154934429
No, they really do work that much. I know their type at a very personal and professional level and they've got the shittiest work ethic while getting paid exorbitant amounts for it. Only difference is, the half-assing is obvious and well scrutinized on the HS devs' end.
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>>154934640
upgrade, southsea, heroic strike
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>>154934524
>>154934587
>>154934640
Thanks guys, all good suggestions
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Reposting in hopes of getting some advice. What would you do?
I just traded creeper on spider, kings secretkeeper and played murloc.
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>people getting 3+ legendaries from the bundle

okay, is everybody being full of shit
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Swashburgler + prep + plus beneath the grounds hard counters mill Druid due to you filling your opponents deck with 4/4 nerubs that fill the board with 4/4 nerubs.

>mill Druids never know what hit em
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POST
SPICY
BRAWL
DICKS
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>>154934723
So you're saying you know because you've met people you think are similar? You're making a massive generalization you don't know anything about them.
Is every team member a hipster?
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>>154935019
Oh, I always thought he was a Tauren clumsily riding on a ram, not a Dwarf. Huh.
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>>154933916
Holy fuck, how cheap is the production budget for this event?

twitch
.tv/pgl_hs/v/89616357?t=05h14m50s

>Small as fuck table

>On top of that it's a fucking ROUND TABLE for 2 laptops + mousepads

>Almost no space for mouse pad

>That shitty HP sign on top of the player's mousepad

>Almost no distance between players

HEH

WE E-SPORTS NOW, RIGHT GUYS?
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>>154935019
Doesn't that lose horribly to mill druid?
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>>154934928
>giving your opponent easy cards to naturalize
>filling your hand with nonsense cards to gets your preps and beneath the grounds discarded easier

I've mowed down this deck multiple times, it's a joke
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>>154935060
Not every one of them, but most are definitely of this caliber judging by the work they have been putting out. It's very clear now with how shitty the game has been handled since the start of the year.

Dunno why you're taking so much offense at this assessment, unless you fall into this category in your own career path of course.
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>>154934884
i got 2 from packs + the class legendary
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>>154935210
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>>154934884
got a tony i already had as the class legendary, a tirion i already had in my first pack and a golden cenarius i didnt have. Wish my tirion copy was golden and cenarius was vanilla but eh.
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I have no idea what this is.
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>>154935284
Yes but the realization that people have when you pull off the combo is priceless
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>>154934206
Druid
Innervate / Claw / Feral Rage

Use Claw to clear out the murlocs, and only target face as a last resort.
You have to be extremely unlucky to lose against Mill with these cards.
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>>154935736
What?
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>play Yogg because I'm dead on board
>Yogg casts vanish
>able to play Reno again next turn
>win because Yogg
Praise Yogg
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>>154935736
Immune to Enemy and Friendly targeted effects I assume
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>>154935853
It can't be affected by spells or effects that target friendly or enemy minions.
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>>154935953
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>>154935982
The only one I have it VanCleef and I got him.
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>>154934587
>Annoy-o-Tron
Wouldn't Gorillabot work better?
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>>154936096
>>154935953
W-what happens if you play both?
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>would have been happy getting tirion, grommash, van cleef, antonidas, jaraxxus, or cenarius
>get prophet velen
>pity timer ends on my last pack
>duplicate rag
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>>154936224
The way you lose is if you dont draw enough mechwarpers to dump your hand.

Gorillabot doesnt help with that, annoyotron does.

Also you need 4 mechwarpers to dump your hand with gorillabot, but only 3 with other mechs.

Dont fall for the gorillabot meme.
You dont need to generate cards.
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>>154936279
The board implodes as both heroes are sucked into a black hole. You then unlock the secret board, Space, and winning 500 games on it unlocks the secret legendary.
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>>154936368
I guess you're right.
Also Annoy-o-Tron gets exponentially more annoying with every Metaltooth that gets summoned.
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>>154934076
That would require all the money that would be needed to reprint and ship out all the card changes

Oh wait they never take advantage of a digital format never updating and balancing the game
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>>154936474
Annoyotron also survives circle heal or elemental destruction shenanigans, the previous weakness of mech decks.

Truly the masterrace.
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>>154934667
Over how many games?
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>>154935310
That's the beauty of swashburgler. 95% of Druids burn their naturalizes on this 1/1 that served its purpose. And you underestimate how effective cards like healing touch and Druid of the claw, moon glade portal are.
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>>154936290
I'll trade you for that rag
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Wait, does Moonglade Portal give you a golden minion if your hero is golden?

FREE GOLDS?
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>>154934429
obviously you've never worked in a soft dev environment

guess what, the designers and developers aren't testing the interactions; that's what QA is for.
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>>154937995
pretty sure it gives a golden minion if you have a golden moonglade portal. i haven't tested it myself though.
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WTT my Milhouse Manastorm for Sylvanas
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>>154937995
I'd assume it does, most things like that do.
Golden Mindgames gives a golden minion for example, even though it's not your minion but your opponent's.
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>>154934884
I only got another tirion. These assholes are hogging all the luck.
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>>154938301
I think a better example would be like a regular Implosion targeting a golden minion and giving you golden imps.
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After my welcome pack.

Got Vancleef for my class legendary.

I guess I'll take it!
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>playing control shaman
>2 healing waves
>4 board clears
>never draw them against aggro
Whats the point
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>>154935736
>Does not count as belonging to either player
>Stays on the same side of the board at all times and obeys all of that player's commands

Great design.
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>all tournament players ban shaman
>only good aggro deck gone
>nothing can stop the combo decks now
gg
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>>154939217
Fun and interactive
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>>154939217
We have loatheb! Oh wait people didn't like the one card in this game that could be used to disrupt and counter your opponents turn meaning they'll never make another because it's unfun
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>Undercity Huckster vs Mage
>Babbling book
>2 pyros and a frostbolt

Dominance indeed. Easy 100g.
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>>154939312
I honestly dont know whats worse anymore.

Matches beeing decided by who draws his combo pieces faster, or matches beeing decided by who went first and had a better curve.

Curvestone is so retarded but every deck delaying the game is just 80% cycle and 5-6 cards that end the game once they hit them.
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>>154938235
>>154938301
Seems regular portal gives golden card if your hero is gold
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>>154939474
Did you watch that Fire bat tournament? Probably the only way to make the game fun again.
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>>154939454
Kek, I meant cabalist's tome, not babbling book.
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>Buy welcome bundle on iPad.
>Waiting for authorization.
>Close Hearthstone.
>Game crashes at Hearthstone splash.
>Does this for the past 20 minutes.

I GAVE TEAM 5 MONEY FOR THIS FUCKING SHIT TO HAPPEN. CAN'T EVEN FARM TAVERN BRAWL FOR 100G. HOW INCOMPETENT CAN A DEV TEAM BE.
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>>154939680
>5 money
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Nice game Blizzard.
Closing the game and reopening it does nothing.
Stuck in this shit for well over 5 minutes.
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>>154940049
Kek
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>>154940082
open it in a different server (eu/na/asia)

happened to me once its how i fixed it
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>>154940082
Try closing it and ending a process called "Agent."
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>>154940369
>>154940395
It fixed itself after 10 minutes and I got a free win.
But now I have a different problem.
When I win a game I don't get the gold. It says I reached the daily gold limit, which isn't true. I'm 30 gold away from the gold limit.
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>>154940538
>tfw brode cucks you out of your gold
Nice f2p game blizzard
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>>154940538
whats the gold limit
i dont play this game enough to know.
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>>154940773
With Mech hunter even faster.
Most people give up on turn 2 or 3. You win most games except for mirror, where the one with coin wins.
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>>154940690
3 wins = 10 gold
max of 100 gold = 30 wins

with this brawl you can get 30 wins in a about 2 hours
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>>154940662
>Lead designer's fault for tech team issue

There you go again, priestfag.

>>154940773
>>154940894
Ah, I don't feel like cancering up druid mill / mech for 3 hours.
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>>154934206
Sorcerer's Apprentice, Ice Lance, Frostbolt.
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>>154940949
>Until you face Innervate Barnes Rag or Innervate Loatheb Naturalize
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>>154940914
>issue
>implying it isn't a feature
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>>154940868
anyfin shaman shits all over mech hunter
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>>154940914
I dont know who the fuck priestfag is, I just blame brode for everything that goes wrong.
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>>154941082
>anyfin
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i'm playing an arena run with snowchugger right now
feel pretty deviish desu
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>>154941082
From my experience, the one with the coin wins if both player have a good hand.
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>playing wild
>stuck in ranks 10-9 for the past 3 days, after about 50 games. Spot on 50% win rate
>decide to change up my deck slightly for more mid-range. "this won't be good against control but it'll help in the matchups I've been playing"
>first game after changes made, control priest - lose horribly, thanks blizz
>whatever, keep playing
>decide to play zoo for easy ranks
>first game as zoo is against freeze mage, the worst matchup. LITERALLY have not seen a single freeze mage in past 50+ games

How the fuck is matchmaking not rigged in this game. I play 50 games, not see the deck, then make one change and suddenly the hard counter pops up, in a meta that is completely unfavoured for it. What in the fuck is this
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>>154941310
That's what you get, zoo shitter
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>>154941459
>Control warlock
I know it's a joke, but that actually makes me very mad.

People who play this deck likely think this is true; that it is, in fact, "control", and not just face SMOrc.
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>go to hearthcards dot net
>go to gallery queue
>bring something back
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>>154941770
>reno hatson
>parody of reno jackson
>not wearing a hat
>hatson
>hats on
>discovers a hat
>so he can put a hat on

deep shit
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>>154941310

>play control, getting fucked by aggro
>had enough of this shit, decide to make a freeze mage and queue with it
>3 control warriors in a row (same guy twice though)
>check the match history, not a single control warrior in last 30 games before that

Fuck off.
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I have created the best deck in the game again
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>>154937995
If you Firelands Portal a golden hero the minion that spawns is golden.

I'd assume the same for Moonglade.
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>>154941310
I think it's rigged as fuck. Last week I queued up freeze mage for the first time in ages and ran into 2 consecutive control warriors. Before that I'd find one in maybe 15 games; most people were playing warlock, hunter, and shaman. It tilted me off the face of the earth, so now I just play midrange shaman because I know blizz can't fuck my winrates.
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>>154942043
>>154942379
We know Blizz have access to all sorts of statistics, for example they mentioned they know how likely your win rate is increased when you topdeck a certain card. It wouldn't surprise me if they could make a fairly accurate guess on what archetype you're playing based on some key cards and fix the matchups so the win rate is roughly 50%. Can't balance the game, but they can rig the matchmaking a bit to make it seem more balanced.
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>>154942626
This sounds like so much effort just to artificially average everyone
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>>154942820
It WOULD explain why they seem to be wasting fuck-all manhours on anything else, like balance patches or even simple GUI fixes.
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I'm missing 2 legendaries for a deck i want to build, which legendary i should craft first?

Yogg or Fandral?
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I'm actually very lucky and my first hand is always the best one, even Yogg is like 88% for me.

I don't know why.
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>>154943167
Both are 100% necessary.
Crafting order doesn't matter.
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>>154943006
Yeah it would explain that.

Weird business model to not balance the cards but trick the matches instead.

Also I'm starting to wonder if its unrelated bt it seems that Yogg/Burgle and similar effects gives me way better results when I'm just playing meme decks. Maybe the matchmaking is ggenerating better tools for me since my opponent is running a cutthroat meta deck. Of course I can only base this on my own experience so I might just be very lucky.
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Got valen in welcome pack, thanks brode
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>>154943167
>>154943307
In this case, you'd go by availability.

Since Yogg can be played in multiple classes and Fandral is Druid exclusive, you'd craft Yogg first.
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>>154943217
Same here. So far this month my Yogg NEVER killed me, flucked like 3-4 times and killed my opponent or made it impossible for him to win like 30+ times. Also I saw like half my opponents Yogg do nothing to the game sate.
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>>154943527
I'm not a person to whiny about "lucky'' ''rng", I fell like a good player and know when the lose was because of my skills.
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Welcome bundle should have let you choose a your classic set legendary. I got Antonidas and it wasn't a duplicate so I saved a ton of dust and all, but I don't give a single rotten fuck about mage. Whereas Tirion would have completed several decks for me.
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>>154943957
dont be so entitled anon
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>>154944020
good goy
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this is breddy gud if you dont blow your wad too early
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>>154943957
>>154944020
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>>154944249
Is she mentally retarded?
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>>154941907
>re no-hats on
>no hat

d e e p e r s t i l l
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>>154944572
she might be
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>>154944709
dude
my mind dude
i must find the genius who made this
he is destined to lead our folk from this dark age
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I haven't played Hearthstone since party quest dropped, has anything changed? I read about the daft Arena bans but w.e
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>Randomly roll taunt totem against a Hunter who otherwise has lethal
>Win

>Randomly roll health totem against Rogue who just needed to poke a Thing From Below to kill it and send their Leeroy to my face
>Win

>Randomly roll spellpower totem
>Clear board and have lethal

Why am I playing this class? I'm clearly building up a karmic debt I won't be able to pay back.
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>>154941770

I actually really like this desu.
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I miss Loabtheb guys he would have stopped this mage tempo cancer
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>>154946509
>giving mage another board clear
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>>154946604
Sure, give another way for Aggro Shaman to protect their board.
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anyone got that one decklist posted here recently that was a fatigue warrior named "kill it all" and all the cards were golden
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>>154946604
Loatheb was too good for this world, he's in the big floating ziggurat in the sky now
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>>154946806
The only aggro deck that used loatheb before was zoo. Shaman, hunters, tempo mage everyone else didn't. Midrange either picked him or sylvana and most controls decks didn't run him

>>154947178
He really was, disruption in hearthstone never again
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>>154947178
loatheb is a faggot made for curve decks
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>>154947496
shaman wasn't in the game back when loatheb was
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>>154944232
this fucking blows, good decks can clear totems too easily for you to get a value totemic might off

1/10, only works against retards who dont play around anything
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>>154948286
you know how i know you're new?
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>>154948346
LOE brought tunnel trogg which made shaman top tier back then, it only got better with the standard rotation and new old god cards.
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>game takes 1.7 G on ipad
>need to upade
>1.8 G available
>cant update, not enough space
Fucking hell these shit devs
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>>154948554
yes, 2 years new

mouthbreather curve decks that used loatheb:
>midrange hunter
>midrange druid
>secret paladin
>zoo

control/combo/other decks that used loatheb:
>handlock
>oil rogue
>...
>that's it
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>>154949010
>control/combo/other decks that used loatheb:
>>handlock
>>oil rogue
>>...
>>that's it
It's like you never played control warrior before
A good Loatheb turn was one of the only ways you could beat combo druid
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Imagine if this game had 4 board clears like MTG has. Aggro and tempo would still be strong but at least they wouldn't be retarded-level strong.
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>>154949273
yeah no one did that but you
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>>154949626
>>154949010
you know how i know you suck at hearthstone?
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>>154949626
Are you sure about that?
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@154949782
your shitposting is undeserving of a (You)
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>>154949626
Guy who played druid here. Loatheb was used ALL the time to shitdown combo, and not just that. You have no idea of what we're talking about it seems.
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>>154949626
Is this a joke or did you just not play hearthstone at the time
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>>154949997
>based on my unfounded anecdote you have have no idea what you're talking about
why don't you just go find me some control warrior decklists made by someone notable players that include loatheb

hard mode: has to be from gvg or later
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>>154949392

It still blows my mind how they made a card game without the blocking phase. It's so fucking retarded, I just can't stop being perplexed by it.
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>>154949392

>MTG only has 4 board clears

Well that's not strictly true, is it.
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>>154950781
I think he means you can have four copies of a card in a deck, so four of the same board clear
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>>154949392

It's about the same as hearthstone. Since you draw lands half of the time. Then again that also means your opponent isn't drawing threats every turn. MTG has much better pacing overall. No idea why Blizzard went ahead and reinvented the wheel there. (and then made it a fucking rectangular)
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who forever rank 25 here?
I've been playing for 3 weeks and only won 2 games so far, not sure how I'm supposed to get cards if I can't even complete my quests
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>>154950384
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/kolentos-dreamhack-winter-2014-control-warrior/
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>>154950781
>>154951065
I'm retarded and didn't write 'mana'. I meant 4 mana boardclears. MTG has those, whereas HS's cheapest boardclear is 8 mana.

To make it even worse, minions in HS are much stickier than in MTG in the sense they have deathrattles and shit.
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>>154951404
>not sure how I'm supposed to get cards if I can't even complete my quests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kcet4aPpQ
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>>154951065

Oh, yeah, that makes a LOT more sense. Sorry. I'm used to EDH, so I thought he meant there's only 4 board wipes in MTG as a whole.

But yeah.
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>>154951404
>I've been playing for 3 weeks and only won 2 games so far
Here is your you
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>>154951449
1 point for easy mode
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>>154951404
If you want to be f2p, play Brawls and Arena whenever you can while you get together the pieces for a cheap competitive deck (maybe Zoolock).
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>>154951569
You know what you must play now
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>>154951462

Yeah, but MTG makes up for having low cost boardclears by giving most, if not all colours some sort of way to counter spells or respond in such a way that defends your boardstate.

All Hearthstone has is 1 counterspell, and Divine Shield. I do agree with minions in HS being stickier though, not that there's no sticky MTG creatures but there's a much bigger ratio in HS.
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any reason why the brawl is filled with constantly BMing mech kids?
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>>154951740
The decks that play boardclears are the same that play counterspells. The best counterplay to wraths in MTG is greed/risk management, just like in HS.
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>>154951462
I kind of forgot that boardclears in MTG actually cleared the board, pretty much all of the ones in hearthstone just do damage
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>tempo mages don't play flamestrike these days
>don't play around it
>gets one off babbling book anyway

fun and interactive stories to tell your friends
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>>154951946
how many wins are you at?

I am at 90, 30 from each day

and everyone I play against knows the ropes, people concede when they know the matchup and never emote
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>>154951691
>You know what you must play now
i don't have enough dust/legendaries for control warrior. I'm playing sheng's zoo lock and combo warrior atm
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>>154950437

Most card games don't have blocking phases, ie, Pokemon, Vanguard, YGO, ect.

They all do blocking differently, but there's not an actual "I'll block X with Y" mechanic. The issue is though, in most card games, you can block with any creatures unless they state they can't block. In Hearth, only taunt can block, so it's situation as to whether you can actually block your opponent's face.

And that leads back to boardwipes, because they're the only efficient way of clearing a board state in Hearth.
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>>154951404
I've always wondered if the initial packs and quests you get when you start are enough to build a ghetto zoolock right away.
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>didn't get to finish thickrande edit for last thread
someone fix the arm
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>>154952161
just started playing it, 4 or 5 atm
so maybe i'm facing people who have been traumatized before by mech decks and want to take revenge on others by behaving similarly?
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>>154952445
Degenerate
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>>154952445
that looks terrible
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>>154952051

because in magic there's more than just minions to clear. there's a boardstate for everything, and a couple for everything.
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So I got my Eternal Beta Key.
Is the game even worth playing?
I've watched Kibler play it for a bit and it feels kinda meh.
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>>154951640
just search for yourself mate. Thijs ran him with boom together for example. It's not that hard, even if you try to move the goalposts, youll still be wrong.
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>>154933916
When is the next Amazon free bucks promotion?
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>DUUUUUH, WHICH OF THESE THREE CARDS DO I WANT TO PLAY WITH 2 MANA?!?
I swear to fucking god. I wish I could reach through the screen and fucking strangle these cunts.
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>>154952839
its coming up next month for halloween
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>>154951569
MEN I JUST PULLED 4 LEGENDARIES FROM 15 BOOSTERS

garrosh was the first, gotten prophet velen, king mukla and nozdormu
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>new hearthstone CM is more qt than that 50 year old slut

wew
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>>154953047
>new hearthstone CM
?
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>>154953047
Pics?
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>>154947058
Gotchu pham. Pretty fun
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twitter.com
/ItsMeMollyO/status/776838668535291904
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>>154952342

That's what I basically meant. Defenders ought to pick combat targets, not attackers. Since that clearly favors aggro and tempo. Problems pretty much h'stone was destined to have from day one.
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>>154953530
So you were being ironic?
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>>154953530
blizzard literally hires camwhores to be their CMs
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>>154952815
must be pretty hard if you can only find 1
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>>154953714

blizzard basically casting couches their cms
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>>154953714
literally a whore
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>>154953906
God what a slut.
Chatting AND smiling?
Two things a well placed burka would have prevented.
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>>154953906

>$3775
>$2897

this is literally the gdp of african countries that are being donated to her
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Did blizzard just erase that one legendary warrior minion that gives you a brawl and always wins brawls?
I can't craft him.
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>>154953007
Alright, hopefully the Welcome bundle will be still available.
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>>154954268

>Oh god should we tell him
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>>154954496
Story?
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>>154954496
you know what to do anon

make a thread on anon-ib/a/ and post pics
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>>154941575
>zoo
>smorc
How's that shield treating you?
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>>154954496
Why would you lie on an anonymous board?
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>>154954496
post the pics here with zeriyahs

anon-ib DOT co/a/res/5691
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>>154941770
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>>154954496 >>154954623
>>154954628

>a random anon on 4chan fucked someone before they were famous.

>still not fucking them to this very day for whatever stupid reason they can come up with
>>
If I have a steward of darkshire on board, and my opponent has repentance in play, if I summon a minion, that gets its health reduced to one, does the darkshire give it divine shield?
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>>154954026
give me a fucking break nigger, her entire livelihood hinges on her sex appeal
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>>154954776
turn 1: roots
turn 2: innervate innervate coin this card
turn 3: ???
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>>154952362
I tried a f2p run recently. Basic mage is still pretty strong. Sure you get smurfs, but generally it doesnt have trouble hitting rank 15 and then you can autoconcede back to 19. Dont want to go to 20 so you avoid the other smurfs.
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>>154953786
Not really hard, i just dont give enough of a shit to do something you can do yourself. These sites have filters, use them. You've already been proven wrong, there is no point in proving you wronger.
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>>154955349

absolutely nothing because you opponent pinged one of the roots away?
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>>154955282
it shouldn't, you never summoned a 1-health minion, you summoned a minion that was reduced to 1 health
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>>154955542
>post 1 deck with loatheb in it, from the naxx era before everyone realized not to use that shit
>proven wrong

http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/hoejs-dreamhack-winter-2015-control-warrior/
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/324862-vlpss-control-warrior-top-5-legend-in-aug
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/315538-tgt-lifecoach-atlc-phase-2-control-warrior
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/343836-tgt-strifecros-control-warrior
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/431962-kolentos-elise-control-warrior
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/290082-sjows-rank-5-legend-control-warrior
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/190485-fibonacci-warrior
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/418002-fibonaccis-control-warrior-december-2015
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/hoejs-dreamhack-winter-2015-control-warrior/
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what do you people think of this card?
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>>154953530
>>154953714
>>154953906
>>154954026
Weak men surround themselves with women because they are threatened by other men. Blizzard is full of weak men.

The scientific term for this phenomenon is called "being a massive fucking cuck".
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>>154956094
>taunt that does the opposite of protecting your board
What's the point?
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>>154956094
The drawback isn't really a drawback since the person playing it won't have other minions on the field.
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Elves are for ______
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Any viable top 3 for hunter, other than being a mechbaby? I'm not stooping that low at least for a while
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>worgen warrior in fatigue
>has pyro acolyte acolyte on board
>drops worgen
>doesnt trade pyro
<Well done!>
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>>154956334
Elfing?
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>>154956154
Can we go back to beta/alpha days? Cuck has lost any meaning outside the hgg threads.
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>>154956297

that is why it can't attack either
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>>154956334
According to Wacraft lore, getting addicted to magic and blowing up continents in their quest for the biggest high.
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>>154956289
It's for combo decks that just want to sit until they have the cards they need.
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>forsen is actually high 8 hours per day when he streams

lol didnt knew he is smoking weed the whole time

thats pretty based
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>>154956289
It's a: lol, fuck aggro card.

Make overstatted control oriented cards to combat overstatted aggro cards, and make the whole game a mess.
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Vape Naysh
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>>154952445
Is ALL modern art just meant to be fap material? I mean jesus christ, I am so tired of every woman having big tits and some bent over pose.

Sorry don't mean to be a faggot but just saying, maybe its because I am burned out on Overwatch cheesecake posted on 4chan all year, its not just this but literally every artist draws just generic hot white girls now.
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>>154956004
Are you dense in the head? How does the existence of decks without loatheb prove that decks with loatheb don't exist?
You literally asked for notable players who used loatheb in their control warrior decks. Want it after gvg? Here.
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/deck-category/constructed-seasons/season-9/?st=&class_id=619&style_id=&t_id=&p_id=&nc_id%5B%5D=4641&f_id=&pt_id=1&sort=new
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/deck-category/constructed-seasons/season-12/?st=&class_id=619&style_id=&t_id=&p_id=&nc_id%5B%5D=4641&f_id=&pt_id=1&sort=new

Now fuck off.
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>>154956289

saving your face in the early game
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>>154955424
Trying it now, this hurts my soul.
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>>154956525
>smoking weed
>based
nigger
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>>154956485
that's exactly what a cuck would say
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>>154956474
>>154956501
That's right. Raping.
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>>154956456
quickshot, the 1 mana 2 damage spell and brave archer
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>>154956560
V/\
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>>154956525
Are you 12?

>>154956574
Are you gay?
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>>154956550

>giving each archetype equally powerful tools makes the game a mess.

bravo anon.
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>>154956656
well

>he smokes weed and plays video game 8 hours per day and makes shitton of money
>i play video games 8 hours per day but i dont have the money to buy weed or food

thats pretty based from my point of view

>inb4 butthurt wageslaves
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>>154956769
>give shamans a 6 mana card for 4 mana
>let's give Control Warriors a 4 mana card for 2 mana to help solve this

I see no way that this philosophy could backfire in any way.
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>>154956693
thanks i have to try this, i'm bad at coming up with stuff of my own. i screwed around a bit with secrets & bow but didnt get any meaningful results other than two mill druids conceding
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>>154956796
DUDE
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>>154956796
What the fuck has become of Man when they look up to a weed-smoking twitch streamer? Fucking manbabies. Was it the lack of a proper fatherly figure in your life, or did this shitty attitude come naturally to you?
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>>154957160
M'lady
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>>154956094
horrible.

On turn to you never have any other minions, so the effect is moot.

It's basically powercreep card that will force the the game to get stronger cards or get defeated by this every time.
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>>154957191
you can post that on a cristian image board
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>>154957467
You can?

Also did NA servers shit themselves?
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>>154956935

When everything is broken, nothing will be.
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NA just died for me.
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>>154957160
>wageslave whole life
>get 2 weeks vacation your whole life
>marry a stacy with jamals baby
>retire at 70 and die 2 years after

yeah ill keep my "manbaby" life
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>win game
>kicks me out of hearthstone
>now have to wait in queue
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>>154957191
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>>154956621
>Are you dense in the head? How does the existence of decks without loatheb prove that decks with loatheb don't exist?
because decks without it were by far the most common fucking faggot retard. compare loatheb filter to without loatheb filter

>with
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/deck-category/constructed-seasons/season-12/?st=&class_id=619&style_id=&t_id=&p_id=&nc_id%5B%5D=4641&f_id=&pt_id=1&sort=new
>without
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/deck-category/deck-class/warrior/?st=&s_id=503&style_id=&t_id=&p_id=&f_id=&pt_id=1&sort=new

>with, only one is fucking reno warrior
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/deck-category/deck-class/warrior/?st=&s_id=673&style_id=&t_id=267&p_id=&nc_id%5B%5D=4641&f_id=&pt_id=1&sort=new
>without
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/deck-category/deck-class/warrior/?st=&s_id=673&style_id=&t_id=267&p_id=&f_id=&pt_id=1&sort=new

>with
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/deck-category/deck-class/warrior/?st=&s_id=697&style_id=&t_id=267&p_id=&nc_id%5B%5D=4641&f_id=&pt_id=1&sort=new
>without
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/deck-category/deck-class/warrior/?st=&s_id=697&style_id=&t_id=267&p_id=&f_id=&pt_id=1&sort=new
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>blizzard porbably made over 1 million dollars in hearthstone over 2 days from the welcome bundle
>servers are already shitting themselves

SPEND MONEY ON BETTER SERVERS YOU FUCKS

how have they not gotten Ddosd during blizzcon?
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riot until NA is resurrected
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Anyone played the new arena yet? Is it any different?
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Which card to remove to add thalnos?
I like skulker, so maybe 1 shadow strike?
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>>154957931
It's still shit.
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>>154957931
i played once and it was still mostly mages
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>>154957990
Post your list so we can see where cuts can be made
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>>154957990
Fucking picture.
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>>154957796
>because decks without it were by far the most common fucking faggot retard. compare loatheb filter to without loatheb filter

too bad for you that wasn't the argument. If you could stop trying to move the goalposts constantly you'd realize you asked this
>why don't you just go find me some control warrior decklists made by someone notable players that include loatheb
And you got it. Now fuck off.
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>>154951404
Getting to rank 20 is really easy. If you can't, you are probably doing something really wrong. Just look at any basic level tutorial online.
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>>154958174
SHIV
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>>154957990
Remove Loothoarder.

>>154957931
Probably fixed nothing.
All they did is they removed the absolutely worst case scenario for the awful classes and the absolutely best case scenario from the best classes.
Nothing about the awful 100% pure skill based RNG draft. So someone with more luck will win. Because fuck you, Jaina just drafted 10 Flamecannons and is sitting behind a wall of Bog Creeper while you have nothing.
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>>154958174
Probably farseer. In this day of shamans casually throwing 15+ damage in a single turn to the dome, 3 health isn't going to suffice most of the time.
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>>154958294
But muh cycle and arcane discount!

>>154958330
Oh yeah, I had her for board presence aswell, but I guess it makes sense. Will try this.
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Did someone say rogue survivability?
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>>154958174
Cut the Shivs and the Farseer for Thalnos plus like a second Deadly and maybe a Swashburglar?
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>>154958174
You won't always need both shadowstrikes but you want 2 just to increase its draw rate. Take out a shiv.
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>>154958219
>Loatheb was used ALL the time to shitdown combo, and not just that. You have no idea of what we're talking about it seems.
>ALL the time
>see here, some people at some point used loatheb in control!
cheesy reddit faggot. no one used that shit.
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>>154958405
Way too under appropriate mana cost. I'd say 4-5, and they'd be able to prep it for 1-2 (which is great) and they would have 2.
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>>154958398
'Her'? Anon...
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>>154958292
Is it still easy with all-basic cards? Asking for real.
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>>154958728
yes
25-21 is new players almost exclusively
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>>154958519
It was? I dont know what else to tell you. That poster wasn't me but it doesnt refer to control warriors exclusively either, he was just making a general statement as a druid player.

You must be really mad that you made yourself look so incredible stupid on an anonymous website
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I miss my bro
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>>154958901
i made myself look incredible stupid by being just about entirely correct? and if the druid poster wasn't talking about control warrior he should have followed the comment chain
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>Negative auras and Debuffs would make HS a better game.

Y/N?
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>>154958936
>terrible stats despite having whats generally a negative
why was naxx so bad
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>>154958728
Yes, it's very easy.

Post what deck you're using. You're probably either making really bad mistakes or using really bad cards that could be replaced with other basic cards.
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Is WIIIIIIIIIINDS too much of a meme compared to, say, Sir Finley?
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>>154959193
why would you run finley in a fucking deck where you need totems
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>>154951367
It's fun to experiment, there is zero consensus on the relative quality of resource systems.
Magic's lands are generally disliked among digital devs though.
A couple less-common systems have piqued my interest recently:
>Frontline/Backline: A 2-row board, where cards placed on the front row participate in combat while those on the back row perform support roles and use abilities.
>Parallel decks: Players essentially build 2 decks, one with the normal combat stuff and the other with resources. They draw one card from each every turn.

>>154951462
>mfw playing malygos into maelstrom portal/lightning storm/both
Go ahead yogg, summon whatever you want

>>154953906
Is there a problem with this? Stop and think from the lead's perspective. The skills required to be a successful camwhore are not very different from those of an average "community manager".
There's a reason PR hires are almost exclusively female.
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>>154959193
>is 'x' card a bigger meme than the statistical best card in the game?
gee I dunno
>>
>rank 14
>shaman, tuskarr gives him card draw, tuskarr gives him golem
>shaman, trogg, flametongue, coin 4 mana 7/7
>shaman, 20 damage burst turn 7

How am I gonna get my 3 rogue wins?
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>>154959270
You can play him after you get your totems out, or at least an adequate amount for survivability, draw, aggression? Idk I don't really play Shaman much, let alone Midrange Shaman.
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>>154959193
Why would you want to play a midrange variant? Your winrate will be strictly lower than if you just play aggro.

>>154959270
t. someone who has never played face shaman
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>>154959270
>play 2 mana 3/4 and 3 mana 6/6 two times each
>now you can play a 5/5 with taunt for 2 mana
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>>154959425
>>154959474
>>154959425
t. retards that thinks running finley and thunderbluff in the same deck is a good idea
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>>154959104
>i made myself look incredible stupid by being just about entirely correct?

Oh i see. On your planet that logic probably makes sense. But this is earth. When you claim something doesnt exist (control warriors with loatheb) and even issue a challenge for someone to find it and someone actually delivers (which happened. Notable players ran loatheb even after gvg in control warrior as seen in the lists posted) then that means you were not correct. Like at all.

So yes. you do look pretty stupid.
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>>154959474
>Your winrate will be strictly lower than if you just play aggro.
That's actually a complete lie.

You'll win a higher % with midrange, but you'll win nearly as high of a % and overall way way more total games as aggro.

Midrange Shaman doesn't have a bad matchup in the game.
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>>154959290
>Is there a problem with this? Stop and think from the lead's perspective. The skills required to be a successful camwhore are not very different from those of an average "community manager".
>There's a reason PR hires are almost exclusively female.
Its actually the opposite

these bitches are successful because of their looks and they are being hired for a job that that plays 0 role in

if anything it shows how inept and stupid the people hiring them are

most people didnt know zeriyah was a old bitch until she was on cam that ONE time, and she never was again after that
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>>154959474
>Why would you want to play a midrange variant? Your winrate will be strictly lower than if you just play aggro.
>>
what kind of horrible demon does this to me
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>>154959815
Aren't you thankful?
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>>154959815
People were on average 20% more likely to get king krush or velen. (Or people reported higher to troll)

I got krush myself.

Fuck blizzard and their scam.
>>
>>154959815
you're lucky, I only got a golden tirion

at least hunter is playable
>>
>>154959662
go through the seasons and you'll see that after season 13 there are a whopping two control warrior decks with loatheb in it, one of which is a reno warrior. so yes i'm pretty much entirely correct
>>
Welcome bundle came through with a Dupe Cenarius and this. So Golden Legendary and 800 dust wasn't that bad for 5 bucks.
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>>154959815
Why would you want that card when you can play a second call of the wild on turn 9
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>>154959815
I got Cenarius.
And all of the packs were dust.
All of them.
I don't even play Druid.
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>>154959921
>you're lucky, I only got a golden tirion
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>>154959815
>>154959919
This really makes me hesitate, but I need Grom, Tirion, Jarax, and Edwin. I laughed the first time I opened Krush, but I don't think I cann laugh at a dupe of him.
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>>154960020
oh so now it is just "pretty much". Those goalposts are leaving marks on the floor, please stop.

>thing doesnt exist!
>yes it does?
>w-well no on notable used it
>yes they did?
>w-well it wasnt popular!
>not the point?
>hah see im right. It only existed a little!
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>>154959919
>offer a good deal since it's near impossible to start fresh in HS and get anywhere
>still screw people over
sounds like them
really though, I don't know how anybody does it. There are 3 different packs out and you'll want cards from each and the dust values are garbage so crafting what you need takes forever
you're either an arena mage or you pay the jew if you're new
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>>154959867
>>154959919
>>154959921
>>154960148

It wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't for the fact that I have no class leggos at all, so it was 8/9 for me to get a card that is usable at all.
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>>154959921
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>>154960357
>velen
>jaraxuss
>winds
>vancleef
>cenarius
>usable

literally the only legendaries that are "usable" are Grom and Tony, and even Tony is too slow now
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>>154960357
I'm >>154960148
I have no class legos either.
All I wanted was Edwin or Grom.
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>>154960489
eddie goes in miracoli which is legend-capable
high-legend pros are running cenarius in yogg druid
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>>154960489

Usable, not top tier.

>velen in otk
>jaraxxus in reno lock
>winds in midrange
>cleef in macaronicle
>cenarius in token/yogg
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>>154960672
>legend-capable
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>>154960269
>muh goalposts
get out of here with these meme reddit buzzwords. have you even been reading this conversation from the beginning?

>person 1 complains about muh no loatheb
>i point out it was a card for mouthbreather curve decks
>retards claim i never played the game because i said no one used it in control warrior
>to prove my point I ask whoever to go find decklists of control warrior with loatheb
>look, these 5 guys used it in season 12!
>no one ever used it again after that
yeah i'd say i'm pretty much correct
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>>154956525
>that's pretty based
You have to go back
>>>/reddit/
>>>/trash/
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Blizzard seriously needs to introduce Trading

I would gladly trade a dupe legendary for a shitty one rather than waste it for only 400 dust

why are these faggots so jewish
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>beast shredder 2 drop
>beast shredder 4 drop
>beast shredder 6 drop
>pyro turn 8

what did they mean by this?
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>>154960964
>CCG
>TCG
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Please share the statistics that show the dominance of midrange shaman, I know some of you guys have it, thanks a million!
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>>154961194
>>154960964
at least let us combine two non golden cards and turn them into a golden, that would be cool
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>>154961029
>>>/v/
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>>154960823

It really boggles the mind how you can write yourself how you were proven wrong and still believe you are right. But hey, go scream at the reddit boogeyman some more. It's entertaining.
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You can add a single, neutral card to the game to improve it as much as possible.

Let me see what you can do /hsg/
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>>154961471
really boggles my mind that you can't accept that no one used loatheb in control warrior
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>>154961503
Walls

2 mana 2/4 cannot attack
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This kills the hunter...

Seriously, the hunters in this tavern brawl get cucked by this shit if you mulligan only for prep/fan
>>
>halfway through the month
>still not motivated to start climbing to 5
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>>154961503
0 mana 0/99
Your Hero is immune
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>>154961628
Yeah. No one. Except the people that did. As proven by the decklists you got. Those "no ones". They sure do not exist. But you'll feel the incessant need to get the last word in while ignoring clear cut evidence that directly contradicts what you write so go ahead, i'm done talking to a brick wall.
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>>154961929
I still haven't played a ranked game this season.

I'm tempted to try climbing to 5 on Wild, but then I realize I don't have Boom or Naxx and I laugh at how stupid I was for thinking I'd never want to play it.
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>>154961660
I assume it has taunt?
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>>154962090
yeah, I guess all walls would have taunt by default
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>>154961503
0 Mana Battlecry: Uninstall the game
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>you can now buy class-specific card packs
>they cost twice as much

Better or worse?
>>
>>154962341
dont give the jew new ideas
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>>154962341
I'd want a guaranteed epic at least.
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>>154962341
I like it, it would make completing decks easier, but thats something blizzard does not want so I think >>154962380 shouldn't worry, they make enough money with the system that is
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>>154962341
you only need to buy 20 of each if you are missing the legendary, then you never touch it again
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>>154962341
>>154962380
>All golden card packs
>Same ratios as normal ones with a guaranteed rare
>Costs around 750 gold
It will happen soon enough
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>>154959815

I got King Crush too, after I opened the 10 packs which were complete and terrible shit with only two epics I bought one more pack with gold and got Winds which I already had.

Its fucking soul crushing.

There goes another 5 euros wasted in this fucking game. At least I only bought this and LOE with money.
>>
I'm bored, someone post something funny and your battletag and I'll give you my 80 gold quest.
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>>154962820
I think Kripp could use this, 750 gold a pack is a fuckload and but idk how much it should be
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Haven't played arena for at least 5 months, is it worth getting back into?
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>>154963143
no
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>>154958936
I only started playing at the start of the year.
Where was that minion even used? I can't see any use for it besides a niche Priest deck.
It's not like there are many minions that have an ongoing negative effect for you and the generally negative battlecry is also lowering the minions stats, making it a worse Yeti.
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>>154963301
In druid i'd play em with eerie statue, ancient watcher and darnassus aspirant. Prenerf keeper of the groves and wailing soul meant you had plenty of silences for everyone.

Once i had a 6 minion board frostnovad and dropped this bad guy. The tears were flowing like milk and honey.
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>>154963070
Fuck it, I'll bite
ScuttleCrab #1160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGT0_ffg93g
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>>154959815
I feel your pain, buddy

>>154961660
I agree, walls would be nice.
I can't fathom why blizz didn't add any.
Especially considering their constant flirtation with silence-your-own-shit mechanics.
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>>154960964
dude just put 2 in your deck, consider yourself lucky you even have a legendary card
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>>154963592
I forgot silence removes frost effect.
Could be good in a Freeze mage dominated meta.
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Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that this is the best thing to happen to Hearthstone since Standard hit?
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>>154959815
I have only Edward and Tirion out of all the class legos.
I got a duplicate Edward from the bundle.
Basically a 6 in 9 chance to not get fucked. Still got fucked.
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>>154963857
>dude just put 2 in your deck,
>Mfw imagining Nzoth druid with 2 tirion lancasters
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>>154961929
>>154962060
Same here.
Have yet to touch ranked this season.
And I probably won't do it until the Brawl ends. I'm having too much fun getting the daily limit. I don't want to ruin it with the suffering that is ranked.
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is twitch fucked up, it wont load

is anyone good even streaming?
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>>154963857
>just put 2 in your deck

HSG proving it knows fuck all about hearthstone. kek
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>really need to draw a card
>don't draw the card before you lose
>card magically shows up in your opening hand next game as a subtle whisper from ben brode saying "epic stories to tell your friends"
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>>154964736
No, it's just you proving how stupid you are.
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How do I win with warrior during this weeks tavern brawl?
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>>154964857
upgrade
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>>154964824
this
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>>154964947
upgrade spam? Or am I upgrading a specific weapon?
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>>154960489
Tony's good if you're running the tempo mage variant that runs double cabal tome. Spells for days, baby gurl.
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>>154963934
I like the idea of each participant getting to ban a card of their choice, makes things interesting.
But frankly I have zero faith in the hearthstone community of retards, and they shouldn't have any say in the bans.

I mean for fuck's sake, look at this list:
>1. Yogg: 7188
>2. Tuskarr Totemic: 3242
>3. Fiery War Axe/Win Axe: 1154
>4. Barnes: 1045
>5. Call of the Wild: 1023
>6. Flamewreath Faceless/4 mana 7/7: 852
>7. Doomhammer 679
>8.Tunnel Trog 578
>9. Flamewaker: 517
>10. Knife Juggler: 429
>11. Ragnaros/Rag: 311
>12. Execute: 281
>13. Totem Golem: 265
>14. Abusive Sergeant: 250
>15. Alexstrasza's Chapion: 223
>16. Arcane Giant: 190
>17. Innervate: 184
>18. Power Overwhelming: 183
>19. Azure Drake: 171
>20. Brawl: 118
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>>154965059
upgrade, heroic strike , and bash or shield thing
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>>154965059
Upgrade+HS+bash/bloodsail/dread corsair/shield block
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>>154965108

What do you consider to be the main problem?
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>>154965108
there's nothing wrong with this list
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>>154965108

The entire top 12 is filled with either RNG-crap, overpowered crap, or both. It's entirely justified.
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>>154953408
thanks so much man
i appreciate you
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>>154933916
>Tavern Brawl
>Mill Druid #27
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>>154965108
Is this bait? Aside from Azure Drake, all of those cards are bad designed and/or overpowered
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Ok kiddos, I got King Dust in my Welcome Bundle, and I have 1600 dust to craft a lego. Here's the notable ones I don't have:
>Fandral, Aviana, + Cenarius
>Ragnaros, Lightlord + Rag Firelord
>Tirion
>Confessor Paletress
>Edwin + Xaril
>Jaraxxus
>Grommash
>Harrison Jones
>Leeroy Jenkins
>Justicar Trueheart
>Twin Emperor Vek'Lor (only relevant cause I have a C'Thun deck missing this lego but I hardly use that deck anymore)
>Alexstraza
>Malygos
>N'Zoth
>Yogg-Saron
>Y'Shaarj

which one?
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>>154953408
Is this actually decent?
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>>154965108
posters like >>154965347 >>154965395 and >>154965426 are proving your point.

The very fact that people think RNG is inherently deserving of a ban is why the community shouldn't be allowed to ban things. People are just banning cards that feel bad to lose against, not cards that actually cause balance problems. Also why the fuck is Barnes at #4?
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>>154965719
azure drake is overpowered but not really banworthy
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>>154965108
Looks good to me, honestly. The only thing I have a problem with is Azure Bro and Innervate (just because it's part of Druid's specialty)
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>>154965780
rag obv
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>>154963934
>Murloc Pally and Control Warrior mirrors, forever
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>>154965864
>hurr durr rng is good for a 'competitive' game

Go roll some dice, splerglord.
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Ok, /hsg/! Balance the giants in this game.
>Frost giant costs 2-4 more mana, but the cost is reduced by 2 per hero power
>Arcane golem costs 4+ more mana
>Mountain is ok
>Molten cost 1-3 less mana
>Clockwork stays a meme

>>154965108
Rag and abusive shouldn't be there, otherwise a fine list.
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>>154965864

ok pal
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Have been trying a warlock Renounce Darkness + mortal coil + [insert random warlock card ]
in Brawl. It's not strong but funny to have a full deck in this Brawl.
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>>154965780
leeroy

>>154965864
faggot RNG that decides whether you have board control in the early game or not like tuskarr and barnes are completely worthy of being banned, the only shame is that people think yogg is the worst offender and not tuskarr
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>>154966047
this manga goes off the fucking rails, and it started so good
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>>154966015
>Giant From The Deep
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>>154965864
Actually agree with this anon. It's like adding dicerolling to a card game. It's a cool feature that sets it apart from other games. Of course, it completely fucks e-"""""sports""""" but just accept that Hearthstone is not a great competitive game unless you like competitive dice-rolling. And hell, some people do.
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Why isn't Al'Akir played more? The card's actually fantastic in Midrange Shaman
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>>154966262
because midrange shaman is worse than aggro shaman
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>>154966262
you never top deck him when hes actually needed
>>
so fiery bat is absolute not worth running anymore right

it was awful before but now shaman just claws it down for free
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>>154965965
>Anyfin rotating out in a few months

Don't worry anon, Murloc Pally will be back in the dumpster come rotation

>Control Warrior

A curse we are doomed with for the rest of Hearthstone's days
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>>154966262
That's because this is pretty much the first time Midrange Shaman is actually a good deck, so you're only seeing him played now.

You know how people shit talk priest about how bad it is right now? Midrange Shaman was that deck for a way longer time.
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>>154966262
how much do you want it to be played? the hottest newest netdeck of the week uses it
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>>154966304
midrange shaman has almost completely replaced aggro shaman
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>>154966047
But I'm serious. There's nothing wrong with cards like CotW or Flamewreathed Faceless. No RNG is involved and they're not unfair; they just feel bad to lose against. "It feels bad" is a terrible reason to ban something and yet that's what the majority of this list is.

Don't forget, a very large and vocal section of the playerbase thinks aggro is cancer. Do you want these kinds of people to have a voice in the banlist?

>>154966102
I actually agree with Tuskarr Totemic being banned, but Barnes is hardly ban-worthy. He's just the casual player's most recent love interest.

And also note that basically every piece of Warrior's removal is on that list. What even is Warrior when you take out FWA and Execute.
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>>154966418
I'm just curious on why he's never used before. He's pretty much like a 12 damage Grommash, which also needs two cards for a burst finisher as well
>>
Are /hsg/ fun and interactive friends to tell your stories?
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>>154966221
I'm in the minority but I think Chess is a shit game primarily because there is no randomness. Being able to evaluate risk is a genuine skill and Hearthstone is a better game for the existence of RNG.
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>>154966304
are you dumb
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>>154966608
That's because Shaman was bad and no one played Midrange Shaman until now. That and Alakir doesn't fit in Aggro Shaman
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>>154966623
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>>154966623
>Being able to evaluate risk is a genuine skill
It's a mixture of middle school math and intuition that's based on past experience with the game. Calling that a "skill," is just fucking stupid.
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>>154966515
>There's nothing wrong with cards like CotW or Flamewreathed Faceless

The problem with those cards is that they are way undercosted

If you use the excuse of overloading being 4+2 on faceless, a 6 mana 7/7 on turn 4 is still stupid, specially when you consider the only exceptional removal are on Shaman and Warrior, which are already the two dominant classes

And call of the wild is even more stupid, because its 8 mana for 12 mana worth of cards distributed among 3 different minions, making it hard to remove and more often than not you need to 2 for 1 yourself

What people are not getting is that this list isn't some form of bastion of what should and shouldn't be banned, but a list of "We don't want to see these cards in a tournament", specially since those cards are annoying to play on day to day ladder
>>
>get the new bundle
>the leg is WIIIIINDS (did't have him)
>open THREE more legs in the 10 packs (didn't have them either)

So it's Al, Malygod, Hogger and Indiana Jones for 5 bucks. Pretty good.
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>>154965651
No problem

>>154965820
Try it and see. Make sure you rope every turn
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>>154967181
Nice, I only got 3 leggos from my 5 bucks
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>>154966515

There are other reasons for cards to be banned in a restricted play format other than just the effect of themselves in a vacuum, although the memes regarding call of the win and 4 mana 7/7 probably helped immensely. Seeing how dominant aggro, and shaman was in the tournament anyway, banning faceless wouldn't have been that bad either.

As for aggro in general, while not cancer, it really fills up the upper tier spots in the current meta. It isn't called curvestone without a reason.
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>>154966221
Shit like yogg shouldn't exist.
>why don't we just toss out the whole earlier game and every decision made up to this point to the wind and have a game of fucking lottery instead?
>>
>>154967181
>>154967264
Feel like I got jewed out of my 5 shekels by blizz

all I got was king kush and dust. The only epic I even opened was a faceless manipulator and I already had like 4 of them
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what are cards that would still be played if they cost 1 mana more

what cards would still be shit if they cost 1 mana less
>>
Why is zoo honestly allowed to exist?
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>>154967486

It's in a worse spot than usual at the moment though.
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>>154967486
Because it's fun and insanely interactive. No sarcasm.
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>>154967486
>2016
>complaining about zoo
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>>154966620

Today I logged in HS because I noticed the patch and read Tyrande skin is being released. I rerolled a daily quest and played one priest game. I alttabbed half way through.

Did you enjoy my story?
>>
>>154967486
>>154967608
i hated zoo so much when it was tier 1 but i honestly like it more than what we have now

sometimes they'll have retarded burst and insane pressure but at least it's beatable
>>
when is Tyrande coming out

how do we get it
>>
>>154954496
so did my wife's son but you don't see me bragging about it
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>>154967779

need to pay for it and all the money goes to a refugee charity like the wow pets that went other charities
>>
stalagg, fuegen, innervate is pretty fun in this weeks brawl, loses horribly to mil cancer but otherwise it does good.
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>>154966620
Here's my day in HS:
I logged on, rerolled a quest, did a single Warlock brawl game to finish it, then logged off and spent the rest of the day in this thread. I'm almost 30 years old.
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>>154967902
My non mill druid fave is Druid of the Sabre, primal rage, and swipr
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>>154967887
not happening

the Khadgar skin went to charity ad didnt have a card back, Tyrnade does
>>
This was the most fun I've had in this game in a long time

Thoughtsteal gave me 2 Burgles and it spiraled from there
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>>154966620

I played against a druid that got 2 sylvanas off his 2 moonglade portals then played against a mage that got flamestrike off a book which i hadn't been playing aroudn knowing that almost all tempo mages have replaced fs with firelands portal

a great time
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>>154967381
>why aren't my 1-2-3 mana plays relevant after a 10 mana card was played
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>>154967776
Since patron went away, zoo has always been tier 1. It can cheese any matchup and it's probably the most adaptive deck in the whole game.

Anyway, the newest discard zoo is hilarious and surprisingly efficient. Give the archetype one more broken card and it'll be the new sheyman.
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All these mill druids are giving me cancer....
>>
post wild dicks
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What's the most urgent legendary for a mage deck? Every mage i see either runs multiple legendaries, or none at all.
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>>154968421
Alex for freeze
Anthony for anything else.
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>>154968421
alex for freeze
yogg for meme mage
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>>154967486
it doesn't have any flashy finisher so most hearthbabbies don't even realize it's cancer. but those combo decks that spend 12 turns doing nothing and then otk you, man, that's the real issue
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>>154968346
sorc apprentice
arcane missiles
ice lance
collect wins against milldruids
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>>154968346
I'm not having fun either, I just need to finish this quest and bye bye this cancerous shit
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>>154964824
>>154964998
show me your deck where you have two tirions then, mr. intelligent
>>
Why the fuck would people even buy Tyrande?

So that they can at least stare at her titties as they lose yet another 30 minutes long priest game?

Blizzard's marketing team is brilliant and dumbass priest players will eat this shit right up.
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>>154968626
>So that they can at least stare at her titties
yes that is why
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>>154968421

tony and yogg
rag and emperor for slower decks
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>>154964824
>thinks you can use duplicate legendaries
/hsg/ everybody
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>>154968626
priest is my 2nd favorite class plus theyre playable in wild
>>
Reminder that yogg will cycle out. Alex and anthony are forever.
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>>154968421
if youre playing tempo mage then its yogg

arcane blast is also one of the best cards in the deck

freeze its alex
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>>154966981
define a "skill" then.
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>>154968626
If Monara was the Priest skin I would buy it
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>>154968913
>yogg will always be in wild
whyd they kill the format before it even got to live
>>
>>154968089
Which nigger can steal the most?
>>
will blizzturd nerf doomhammer or whatever in time for blizzcon
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>>154969095
because they wanted it dead from the get go, wild wasnt even going to have a ranked mode


once wild is completely dead, people will disenchant all their cards, and they can REMAKE them and resell them as "new" content
>>
>next cycle
>no tempo mage shit
>no dragon shit
>no patron
>shaman is dead again
>no reno shit
>no WELCOME TO THE GRAND ZZZZ

Just hurry up.
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>>154969190
no they're gonna nerf twilight drake and tomb pillager
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>>154969253
whatever theyll probably print something more cancerous than yogg. i didnt think it was possible after shredder and boom but they did it so itll still probably be the better format
>>
IF YOU HATE LOSING AGAINST MILL

Leper Gnome
Loot Hoarder
Mind Blast

plus some basic math and forethought, every game (except mech / barnes) is gg in your favor.
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Now that Secret pally is dead, what do you guys think of this?
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>>154969443
fuck secrets
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>>154969419
>Loot Hoarder
why, that is fucking retarded

Just play holy smite
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>>154969443
there are people who play wild you know
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>>154966015

>Frost giant costs 2-4 more mana, but the cost is reduced by 2 per hero power

Why not just reduce the overall mana cost instead of adding that bullshit math. I am a simple man
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>>154969257

What's so bad about Reno?
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>>154967974
Got you beat I've been browsing all day and haven't even opened the game yet
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>>154969419
Or Malchezaar.
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>>154969443
i dont think this would be good even in wild its a bit slow
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>>154969595
lmao
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>>154969257
>no patron
PILE ON
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>>154969595
A deck built around one card is shit, period. Like Reno, Yogg, etc.
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>>154969542
loot hoarder because not every deck is mill
that's where the forethought comes in, anon
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>>154969925
why is a deck built around 1 card bad?
do you want every deck to be a goodstuff army knife with epic minion trading all the way until fatigue?
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>>154970085
a 2 mana 2/1 does nothing to help you against those other match ups
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why are there no cards with "spell taunt"?
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>>154969925
wait how is a deck being built around reno bad it causes more cards to be used?
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>>154968089
Lol, I've played that matchup and been in the exact same position, stealing from each other the whole time and basically ended up playing rogue with healing vs priest with dagger
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>>154970243
because blizzard doesnt want to nerf aggro
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So I haven't played since the first expansion and I only had about 3/4ths of a shitty Mech Mage deck. I dusted it to work on something current, and I only have about 2000 dust. What do I do from here? Just play with a basic deck with the level 10 cards and hope?
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>>154970243
they would have to rebalance too much shit
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>>154970207
i've lost 2 games out of 25 matches.
one against mechwarp/tooth hunter, second against barnes/ysh druid.
so, you're wrong
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>>154970243
Um unless I'm mistaken, that's already a mechanic--"Can't be targeted by spells or hero powers"
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>>154970487
because priest with mindblast always beats mill druid
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>>154970642
he's asking for the opposite
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>>154970642

>Taunt - Can't be targeted by attacking minions

you're right
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>>154970403
Play Arena and slowly get the pieces for a competitive deck.
Maybe this (Barnes not necessary).
https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/decks/miracle-rogue-standard-meta-snapshot-sep-9-2016
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>>154970642
That's the exact opposite of """spell taunt""".
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Is Eloise autistic?
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>>154970243

Spellbender is in the game anon.
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>>154969586
Well, giants are built around gimmicks. If Frost giant was just flatout cheaper 8/8 it should just be a vanilla monster.
Secondly having it a bit higher with bigger cost reduction impacts it more, rewarding playing that gimmick without moving it to 477 territory.
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this game isn't fun
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>Finally got around to watching the early matches of Batstone I missed

>mfw

That shit is intense, man. So many close matches without some Yogg coming in messing everything up.
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>this kills the tempo mage
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>>154971302

Can someone make a wolverine photo edit with the 2 mana blade flurry
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>>154966953
Google "bobby fischer", he was a pretty cool guy
I'm sure he's an idiot by /hsg/'s standards, but he made a couple good arguments

>>154967381
Agreed on yogg. It's the exact opposite of a reasonable, tasteful, or interesting use of RNG.

>>154968626
No blizzard's not brilliant
If they were they'd have added 20 more skins by now
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>>154971372
>4 mana 1/4
They'd probably like it if you played this card
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>>154971372
>fireballed on curve
heh nothing personell
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>>154970762
>>154970813
Ah, so all spells that would be directed at your minions/hero are directed at you. Got it.
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>>154971865
>directed at you
Shit I meant directed at the taunt. Sorry, it's 7:30 and I just started drinking
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>>154970642
whahahah this guy make my day
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Outta my way shitters, best brawl deck coming though.
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>>154971302
>Rogue has shit removal, aoe and face damage
what does the class even do anymore?
burgle rogue is one of my favorite decks but what are they even doing with the class?
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>tfw casting infinite spell yogg
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>>154972293
well it has a fork which is nice
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Last 3 games have been losses due to BS cards like huckster stealing top tier class cards that win them the game.
Truly a game of skill.
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>draft Prince Malchezaar in a new Rogue Arena

This is going to be awesome or the most painful 0-3 ever.
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>>154972293
>rogue
>bad
can we just end this meme now? rogue is "bad" because the most common decks are midrange shaman and aggro shaman, it has tons of good matchups and can do a lot of broken shit that it can't make use of because 50% of people are shaman
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>>154972691
rogue is "bad" because over half the player-base got their brain from a Toys R Us
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>Got King Krush and Velen from the welcome bundle
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>>154971641

>fireball wasted on minion instead of face.

that's a win anon.
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>>154972907

I got Grom. It was a nice change of pace after unpacking Cho and Nat the Dankfisher a week ago.
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>mechwarper hunter bms all (three turns) of game
>adds me to talk shit
>literally rank 21

this tavern brawl is the only place where shitters can feel pro
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>>154973003
>implying i needed that 6 damage when killing your shit oc opened up the board for flamewaker
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>>154973003

Good thing Cabalists Tome exists.
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>Lied to blizzard's support about not getting the class legendary in the bundle
>The absolute fools give me another one
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>>154972691
>Rogue is "bad" because nobody plays its good match ups
Its good match ups are like, two fucking decks out of the ones that actually get played anymore.

That's not "bad". That's just plain fucking bad.
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>>154972691

Valeera has ONE viable deck that's both tier 3 and at the whims of RNG. She's in a bad fucking spot dude.
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>>154973528
Daaaaaayum anon, you just fooled a rich as fuck company to give you compensation worth of 1600 magical dust in a children's card game

You're making the system a fool, keep up the good work
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>>154972691
rogue is trash
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Jesus this is third time ive been offered malchezaar in arena these two couple of weeks, don't even want it
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>>154973905
>butt destroyed blizzard shill spotted
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>Rogue cannot into control
>Rogue's combos need an entire deck around to still not be the best at control
>Rogues aggro is pitiful compared to shaman or hunter
>rogues one instant high damage board clear is gone forever.
>Rogues have no healing
>No support for stealth or combo.
>has the weakest weapons because of one spell and barely any support for them.
>Rogues "midrange" is reliant on rng from other classes.

what is the point?
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>>154973976
t. shieldbearer retard idiot incapable of thought
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>>154974034
>not wanting 5 legendaries and a pit fighter in the game mode where deck value factors in big time
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>>154974239
it's always the same shit, they have no threats other than the same combos they always try to pull off that depend a lot of draws rng, that they are capable of removing your threats, and that they pull it off before they die, if you are capable of thought you know you'll get more wins with other classes.
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>>154974327
It's so inconsisten tho, and fucks with my draws
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>>154974534

>fucks with your draws
>in fucking arena

No.

OH NO I DREW A LEGENDARY INSTEAD OF SILVER HAND KNIGHT
M-MUH WIN CONDITIONS
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>>154974534
However, 5 legendaries is far more useful in arena.
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>>154967974
>>154969717
I browse all day on my phone at work, I have time to read not enough to play.
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Fuck I hate this game so much
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Tired of mill druid? Hint: There's another druid deck that also plays a zero mana, a one mana, and a three mana card that blows it (and almost everything else) the fuck out.

Innervate, Living Roots, Savage Roar.
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>>154974821
Me too anon, me too...
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>Notice I get mostly dust when buying classic and old gods packs
>Also notice I have almost 0 TGT cards, not even commons
Should I buy only TGT packs now? Those cards sucks but it would be good having them MAYBE someday. Already crafted Justicar. Also I still dont have a lot of legendaries I would like in old gods/classic
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>>154974893
druid with mechwarpers also fucks them
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>>154974960
save for next expansion or open classic
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>>154974089
tempo :^)
and going 12-0 in arena
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>>154974960
If it's been awhile since your last legendary buy TGT until the pity timer shits one out and then save for the expansion.
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>>154974821

>keep playing because there's no way the next content release can make the game any worse
>next content release does make the game worse
>this has been going on since naxx
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>>154974089
you have to understand the design process behind blizzard games
shaman was once bad so therefore it's the current top tier deck
rogue had the top tier deck before (old school miracle) so therefore it was nerfed into the ground
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>>154975442
That's flawed anon

Priest has always been shit and is still shit
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WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERYONE PLAY ZOO OR AGGRO SHIT

FUCK OFF
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>>154975223
arena's their only grace. which is actually worse then warriors situation beacause to any new-midfag player all rogue cards would seem so bad that theyd dust them all if it wernt for the want of collection.

And since the flurry nerf they have no chance in wild either.
you have to plan your flurries far more in advance now which means any counter screws you indefinitely and they are much less value then before.
the only way i can see blade flurry again is if they give rogue a high attack, 1 durability weapon.
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>>154934073
Me again, anyone got a good WILD Rogue list?
I'm done with ranked anyways.
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so are there any people in the tavern brawl who are gigantic faggots that play "le mechwarper xd" decks?
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>>154975816
not really
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>>154972691
Rogue is as bad as paladin in constructed, anon.
It seriously needs an archetype that isn't "steal RANDOM cards" or "play solitaire".

The lack of weapons is the strangest thing. Rogue is a weapons class. Even the fucking hero power is a weapon! Yet blizz has basically completely neglected this.
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Why would you play Arena without getting Mage? Just Retire any draft that isn't Mage until you get Mage. Simple!

Apparently that's what everyone else fucking does...
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>N'zoth Anyfin paladin last game
Two cancerous worlds colliding together to become one
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>>154976278
>cancer
N'Zoth Anyfin is the most patrician deck out there at the moment.
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>>154976278
>nonaggro deck
>cancer
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I had fun
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>>154976534
I don't see how you could possibly draw 30 fatigue cards with just those cards in one turn.
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>>154976746
he had 3 minions hidden behind the fatigue
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>make original non-deck fucking great meme deck
>beat 3 in a row
>think i finally found the answer
>lose a game
>"fuck this shit deck"

its like the game is only meant to be played to lose.
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>>154976489
Controlling each other back and forth for 30 minutes only to lose to a 24+ damage burst that I cant do shit about because there's only one counter spell and no loatheb is fucking horrid
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>>154975558
Priest was the best Arena pick in Beta/Early Vanilla.
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>>154976817
No he didn't. We'd be able to see the edges of both outer minions.
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I hope Priest will never be good
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>>154977006
I disagree but respect your opinion
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>>154977006
I actually don't mind the holy champion combo, but otherwise agreed.
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>>154977090
Fuck off nigger priest
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>>154976489
>anyfin
>not cancer
/hsg/
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Let's make priest great again.

R8
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>>154977006
I'm okay with Priest being "okay" but not good like how it is in Wild.
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>want to play shaman
>no doomhammers
>want to play mage
>no arcane blasts or ice blocks
>want to play rogue
>no preparations
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>>154977551

craft them
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>hit gold cap in hearthstone
>still have 4 lpq wins in dota (and fuck dota)
>no alcohol
What a life.
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>>154976489
I dislike Kripp as a person and as a streamer, but I love the fact that he is starting to make serious complaints about the game and asking blizzard to fix them. It's like if he actually noticed that the stupid and lazy team 5 (the cocksuckers """"""""""working"""""""""""""" on this game) only listen to famous streamers.

Something must have changed since those days where Kripp sucked blizzard's cock so back he actually defended all those months of secret paladin. Now he's pissed. Maybe the lack of actual food he is eating or the fact he has to pretend on camera that he likes and cares about that horrible monster crap his girlfriend randomly brought to his house one day and now he doesn't only have to eat shit food he doesn't like and isn't healthy at all for a grown man, he also has to watch that monster crap eating dog food that is actually better than the literal shit kripp HAS to eat in order to get sex with his 1/10 shitfriend.
Of course he's pissed, if he is going to earn money just for it to be used by a big as fuck monster crap that must shit and piss inside his house and for buying his overcosted shit vegan "food" playing a game he KNOWS could be good and enjoyable but it is being designed by monkeys and jews, of course he should do everything he can to fix this disgusting piece of shit game.
Based Kripp.
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>>154977551
>mage can't survive without iceblock / arcane blast
>shaman can't win without doomhammer
>rogue needs prep

never go full retard, anon
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>>154977551
Welcome bundle is there for a reason.
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>>154977551
The new midrange shaman meme doesn't run doomhammer.
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Game of Gods holy shit
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>>154977551
>mfw my first epic was doomhammer
>mfw that was 2 years ago
>mfw midrange shaman is finally good
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The fact that blizzard limits the game so much makes me sad that we will never get absurdly over the top effects without the "random" tag on it
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>>154978043
What sort of meme deck is that?
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I want to play Shadowform Priest for some fun. How bad is it?

Is it never win a game bad or 40% win rate bad?
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>>154978186
Regular priest is 40% win rate bad. Shadowform priest is bad bad
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>>154978157
I like this way, is better than yu gi oh with a tons of useless combos and decks.
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>>154978157
>you know what we really need
>a giant buff to OTK decks
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>>154978186
Priest is, by default, 40% win-rate bad.
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So I am unironically shit at shaman, got any non-meme tips? I'm attempting to play """midrange"""
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>>154978535
Combo decks are not the problem, the lack of interactivity is

MTG also has combo decks, and you know whats more? You have the chance to fucking disrupt them
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>>154978685
get 1 drops and spirit claws and totem golem in your starting hand
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>>154977775
He loves that dog... I can see it in his eyes.
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>brawl mill druid
>see's me put down young dragonhawk/cold blooded/conceal combo
>knows they can't possibly burn my cards fast enough and will just give me enough cold blooded and conceals to finish them off by the 4th turn
>too much of a bitch to see the writing on the wall to concede
even in pitiful death they waste everyone's time
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>>154978685
Games are usually decided at the mulligan. So do that part differently until something works. Or you built the deck "wrong".
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>>154977775
did a dog bite you today
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>>154977775
Are you autistic? Just call it a fucking dog you re re
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How do we fix Krush, Velen and Alakir?
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>>154979403
>not using comic sans for meme'akir
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>>154978535
Yeah, because they are so fucking oppressive right now, all I see on ladder all day are freeze mages and worgen warriors, sure
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Convince me not to do it for my shaman deck
Please /hsg/
It's so hard to resist
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>>154979403
>If discarding and destroying your own minions is what it takes to win, then so be it
What does that have to do with Jaraxxus?
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>>154979403
Krush should have less hp and lower mana cost.

But then he'd turn into cancer
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>>154977312
10 out of repost
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>>154979619
This card is shit?
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>>154979652
hey anon i think those big red letters at the top say something.....
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>>154979619
Do it, faggot.
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>>154979652
Destroys your hero, fits with the "win no matter the cost" warlock theme
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>>154979403

PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWEEEEEEEEEEEERRRR
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>>154979403
Krush will just turn into a hunter's Leeroy if he's buffed.

Velen should have a smaller mana cost and less attack value.

Al'akir is fine, he'd be OP if he was say a 4/5.
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>>154979619
Why would I convince you?
Are you that ashamed of making your own decisions that you rely on others approval?
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>>154979619
Dies to Shredder
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>>154934667
Why Malygos
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Fuck why can't they let Oil Rogue come back?
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>>154980630
fag deck
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Fuck yeah stomped some asshole coming to wild using standard midrange shaman with my Reno nzoth mage fuck you shaman shitter!!!! Justice demands retribution!!!!!!
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>>154980615
not him but im guessing dragon enabler and burst potential with soulfires
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>>154980615
He forgot Darkbomb rotated out
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>>154980630
If they ever add a new (good) weapon buff/weapon and weapon spell, then MAYBE. Otherwise rip4real :(((
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>>154977937
Serious? Post dick
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yay just got a key for eternal
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>>154980630
Because blade flurry is shit.
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>>154980630
Just play Deathrattle/Thief/whatever with Cold Bloods.
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How do we stop him?
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>>154980630
Because that requires thinking and they want all the top tier decks to be braindead aggro ones
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>>154978535
yes
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>>154981546
Kill command
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>>154981732
Hunters are shit against King Thrall though
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>>154979403
I want krush to be playable too, but do we really want him buffed?
Do we really need highmane > highmane > call of the skill > king krush?
Is that what you want to play against?

>>154980615
>needing a reason to play malygod
What are you gonna do instead, play yogg like a degenerate
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>>154981546
quit the game until standard rotation
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>>154981546
Dragon warrior, but that's the definition of fighting fire with fire.
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>>154981546
>Shaman shit forever
>Blizzard wants to make them good again
>Full blown out cancer
They honestly can't balance for shit, not like they ever balance in the first place.
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>>154981546
Morgl
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I skimmed through the thread and saw some promise but nothing more.
Do we have nudes of the new CM yet?
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>>154982084
Morgl is shit compared to Thrall.
>That's Incredible!
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>>154982050
He was supposed to kill the cancer, not become it
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>>154982143
>those legs behind her
hem
>>
r8

Really liking the new Arena balances so far.
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>>154982381
They're mine :)
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>>154982143

>this is the best that savjz could do
>not some teenage asian girl like other espurts people do
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Ok just one for now
Gonna go take her for a spin
I want to hear jaina call me amazing
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>>154982696
>the best i can do is rank 5 and nogf
>>
It just occurred to me that Noz+Barnes+Innevervate would counter literally every one of the meme brawl decks, aside from mecha fags.
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>>154983121
nogf is better than a 40 year old bimbo who acts like she's 16
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>making Arena Mages ragequit with Fool's Tempo Bane

It's the small moments in life you have to treasure.
>>
>finally unpacking jaraxxus after over a year of playing
>jaraxxus was kill with the molten nerfs
I hope next year he becomes viable again
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>>154984397

I made Handlock work again. It's not a Tier 1 deck but it's fun.
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>>154984465
>>154984397
what killed hand lock exactly? only card nerfs or the meta being ridiculously aggro and filled with removals ?
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>>154984924
molten giant nerfs, lack of good heals or neutral taunters as well as the meta being unjustly agressive
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>>154984924

Both really, but the molten nerf really hurt it.
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I played Totem Golem hoping I wouldn't get punished by Mark of Y'shaarj, which he did have.

In this situation without knowing your opponent's hand, should I have Hero Powered and kill the 4/4 next turn with Rockbiter on Argent + Totem Golem? If he didn't have Mark of Y'shaarj I could have done the same thing
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>>154985354

What the fuck game are you playing with such a beautiful minimalist design sense?
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>>154985664
Hearthstone Deck Tracker's replay system. Its neat
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>>154984181
memes aside she's aging really well
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>>154986095

makeup and not working a real job for most of her life helps
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>>154981546
Use the power of the zoo.
trade effectively, manipulate the board so Knife Thrower's RNG has a higher chance of killing off high threat/taunt minions, have Sea Giants and Reliquary Seekers to be your big guys
Protect Brann for as long as possible.
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>>154985354
Golem on 2 seems bad. Hero power is probably better than just rockbitering it down.
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>>154985794

Does Hearthstone have replays natively?
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>>154986238
Please don't play Reliquary against a class with Lightning Storm and Maelstrom Portal.
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>>154986095
>makeup, angle-working, and light filters
>aging really well
go to bed zeriyah
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>>154986238
Nigga Mid Shaman plays four boardwipes that fucking kill your whole board and has a 1 mana 3 charge War Axe. Zoo is fucking dead you shitter.
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>>154986379
Maybe on Blizzard's end, not on ours.
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>>154985354
>You hero power
>He plays Mark of Y'shaarj
>You win

>You hero power
>He plays a 2 drop
>You have a tempo turn 3 play with Totem Golem + Rockbiter his 2 drop
>Mana tide Totem turn 4

>Totem Golem
>He plays Mark and kills Golem
>You hero power turn 3, trade Argent into his Raven
>Thing from Below turn 4

>Totem Golem
>He plays a 2 drop
>You have to either Rockbiter and be mana inefficient or Hero Power turn 3
>Thing from Below turn 4 (or mana tide inefficiently if you rockbiter)

Turn 2 hero power was better overall I reckon
>>
turns out this new community manager got in because she's fucking some dork on the HS Dev team.
Stay classy, Blizz
>>
so this is pretty much between ice howl and rhonin right? not way anomalous is good enough
>>
>>154986379
HDT auto uploads the replays so that's pretty neat
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>>154986673
Rhonin easy
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>>154986673

Icehowl can remove one, possibly two big creatures. Rhonin can remove one big creature and then you can use those three spells to remove a mess of smaller creatures. I'd pick Rhonin.
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Pop quiz /hsg/: how many flamestrikes do you play around against shaman in constructed?

>>154985354
If in doubt, hero power and pass. As midrange, being conservative in the first few turns tends to pay off nicely, so drop squires > handle their board > drop golems is a common pattern.
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>>154986478
Why wouldn't I play a 5/5 or a 9/9 for 1 mana?
>>154986503
Shaman gotta draw those board clears.
and what if they clear my board?
you know how easy it is to get the board back with Icky tentacles, Imp Gang Boss and Defender of Argus?
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>>154987267
>Shaman gotta draw those board clears.
>and what if they clear my board?
>you know how easy it is to get the board back with Icky tentacles, Imp Gang Boss and Defender of Argus?
Yeah that's what this guy >>154987195 thought too
>>
>>154963803
I actually wanted Krush since I have all the other classic Legendaries and got Grom again ;^(
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>>154987267
Your icky tentacles will never survive the turn for that piece of shit to ever be more than a 1/1 stuck in your hand. Are you honestly saying you're having success with that?
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i really, really enjoy this card
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whats it gonna be
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>>154988258
W I N D S
I
N
D
S
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>>154988258

I HAVE NO TIME FOR MEMES
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>>154987565
surprisingly, YES
hell, the last shaman I fought conceded after he used his hexes on a Sea Giant and Gormok the impaler and used two of his board clears.
got the Seeker to 9/9 with Brann and just crushed everything he played after that
>>154987442
>Malygos
okay, yeah at that point I just concede...
>>
So I just switched to Linux only to learn that Hearthstone isn't supported. Guess that's as good an excuse as any to drop the game :^)
>>
>>154988258
big tony 4 u
>>
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>>154988258
i hate minorities
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>>154988660
Well, it's one less legendary you need ro run the dumbest deck ever ; the random priest

Now all you need is cho, pagal, tinkmaster, paletress, rag, sylvanas, ysera or nefarian, and then a bunch of commons
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>>154988660

PREPARE TO FACE THE MIGHTY THRILLHOUSE MEMESTORM
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>mfw wait 3 hours to expectate a friend
>playing like shit but wins anyway
>get my pack
>have legendary
>get a second copy of nozdormu
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WHISPERS
WHAT SPICY MEME
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>Still no way to rearrange your deck order
I want to group them up by class but not having to delete and remake them all
>>
>>154989704
the feast of souls begins now
>>
>>154989704
THE FEAST OF DUST BEGINS NOW
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>>154989704
the priest legendary, the guy that just makes tokens
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Remember this fishy?
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>>154989704
WONDERFUL POISONS
>>
I haven't played too often, but was recently able to complete a classic warlock deck. I replaced the harvester golem with a faceless manipulator which has been helping me. As someone who's playing the game for free, what cards should I look into replacing? I have 400 crafting dust at them moment.
>>
>Reynad and Krapp missing

I always wind down with one of their streams, what the fuck.
>>
>>154990327
just wait for Dog
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>>154989704
fandral
>>
>>154989726
How fucking hard can it be for them to implement it? I deleted and remade all my decks once, will probably do it again soon.
>>
Well, it finally happened - I crushed someone in Arena so hard they friended me afterwards in order to tell me that if I didn't get 10+ wins, I should uninstall.

All I need to do now is get Legend rank and I can consider this game completed.
>>
Literally game after game of druid's conceding as soon as they see Prince Malchezar.

Tavern Brawl quest is going by real quickly.
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>>154989704
Bow down
>>
>>154990305
replace elven archer with possessed villager and shattered sun cleric with darkshire councilmen if your willing to spend the dust.
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>>154990767
Oh cool i thought you were saying "game after game of druid's conceding as soon as they see Prince Malchezar." metaphorically or maybe allegorically. Thanks for including "literally" here.
>>
>>154991170

Get-a-load-of-this-pedant-cam.jpeg
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>>154989704
>>154989817
>>154989876
>>154989982
>>154990279
>>154990527
alright it could have been worse
I barely play any warrior though, how many decks actually still run him nowadays?
And don't say pirate warrior

>>154990305
Jaraxxus looks hilariously out of place there
I can picture him trying to command a gigantic horde of tiny 1 and 2 drops running around everywhere and biting his ankles and shit, giving death glares to frostwolflord, trying to find the faceless, desperately looking for leeroy and the doomguards, and generally pacing around waiting for guldan to appear so he can bitchslap his ass for summoning the shittiest demon army he's ever seen
>>
>>154991253
Dragon Warrior ran him, but he was outdone by the Curator when it came out. As a card he was good enough to make the cut for one of the two best decks in the game, so i would certainly keep him.
>>
>>154991253

Malkrok can fit into Control and C'thun Warrior
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>>154991227
Literally "Get-a-load-of-this-pedant-cam.jpeg", or do you mean that metaphysically?
>>
>>154991253
wait untill cursed blade rotates out of standard
malkorok will get a massive buff from that.
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>>154990305
From here you should pivot into a more traditional Zoolock deck.

I would cut:
- Manipulator and Jaraxxus (cool cards, but go against your deck's gameplan)
- Frostwolf Warlords (Doomguards are better finishers, deck would be too heavy with all of them)
- Elven Archers (they're fine enough, but you need the room)
- 1 Mortal Coil and 1 Ooze (somewhat situational cards)

I would then add 2 Power Overwhelming and 2 Darkshire Councilman (both premium cards for the archetype), 2 Dire Wolf Alpha and 2 Doomguard (don't be afraid of the discard, most of your cards are interchangeable and you can draw more with your hero power).
>>
>>154990305
On a more serious note, the "classic warlock" deck is not exactly optimized.
Start by swapping out the archers, clerics, and tidehunters for 2 POs, 2 councilmen, and 2 possessed villagers.
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>Try Midrange Shaman
>Win games on the same turns/time as Aggro Shaman
Umm Hearthtards?
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What's the best Midrange Shaman list?
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Sorry I didn't inform you guys, but /hsg/ participated in the "Gauntlet" section of the /4ccg/-hosted FAKKIN BOOLSHEET tournament. The rules were King of the Hill, winner stays and plays in the next match, loser is out. We were the third team slated to play, in the second of nine matches set up.

And we fucking won thanks to heroic efforts from team captain WIIIIIIIIIIIINDS!,the noble Barnes, OUR GUYS Yogg-Saron & Reno Jackson, and even Zeriyah herself felt like netting a goal.

I'll make sure to upload our matches so you guys can watch the /hsg/ soccer team play. Shame our card models weren't loaded properly, but oh well. We're fuckin champions.

>Goal Tallies
Team Captain WIIIIIINDS: 9
Barnes: 8
Reno Jackson: 3
Yogg-Saron, Meme's End: 3
HAHAHAHAHA!: 1
Zeriyah Nudes: 1

The last thing to happen in any of the games, hilariously enough, was "HAH, >Priest" getting a yellow card.
>>
>>154991545

Don't you have a boring English class to prepare lesson plans for?
>>
>>154991780
I literally don't.
>>
>>154991689
noose yourself
>>
>>154991815

I am literally grasping my metaphorical chin in metaphysical amusement at your figurative butthurt.
>>
>>154991878
Right after you mill yourself
>>
>>154991883
i enjoyed this post. literallyposters need to be gassed
>>
>>154992162
Thank you for saying Literally, otherwise i would have thought you meant figuratively.
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Someone hit me up with their best Control Warlock deck
>>
>>154992162
Literally or figuratively gassed though?
>>
>>154992237
Dragon Renolock.
>>
>>154992237
i recommend you do not come anywhere near this or anything like it (or play the game period) until shamaniggers rotate out of standard
>>
>>154992237
Right here famalam, the best Control Warlock deck you've even laid eyes on
>>
>>154991680
Some of the decks people are calling "midrange" are more hybrid shaman, just like hybrid hunter
Aggro early game + midrange late game = hybrid

A full midrange deck will win a couple turns slower because it has to sacrifice some of the early game for a stronger mid/late game
Valiant and al-akir lethals will push up the average time. And any matchups against control will push it up enormously since you don't have to concede like face shaman, eg you can take priest and warrior matchups past turn 20 sometimes.

>>154991689
Obviously no refined list yet, too early in.
Also depends a lot on your personal preferences and playstyle since frankly shaman has so many great options that it's really hard to choose in many cases, and it becomes more of a "which decks do you want to rape harder" thing.

>>154992404
>implying brode won't add more cancer that will keep control warlock nonviable until the end of time
just accept it
>>
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Finally forced myself to dust Noz for some azure drakes. Went on an inexplicable 5 win streak shortly afterwards.
I figure'd I'd keep dumping gold into classic packs, and then buy the One Night/League adventures.
Is there any other card I can craft with 200 dust for this, or should I just start hoarding for legendaries?
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>>154992501
People can hate zoo all they like but it is the best control deck in the game. Always has always will.
>>
>>154988548
Theoretically nothing is supported on linux, no dev is dumb enough to say
>yes please tie up our tech support people all day long so everyone with an actually fixable problem needs to be put on hold for 5 hours while Shruti Ramasthanayan walks you through rebuilding gentoo with the right options to fix that cardback animation error
That said, i've never tried, but HS is unity so it should run with wine, shouldn't it?
>>
>>154992621
You generally should not craft rares or commons. A couple of staples are fine, since they give you a much easier time, but you defenitely will open most rares and all commons at some point, so keep this in mind for your other cards.
>>
>>154991170
As in, as opposed to hyperbole.
>>
>>154992621
2x Mana Wyrm, 1x Sorcerer's Apprentice.
>>
>>154992501
>Zoo
>Control
Nice one

>>154992716
Control is denying your opponent everything then winning late game senpai. It's an aggro deck based around minion combat and burst.
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Is getting two oranges from 1 deck a rare thing?
>>
>>154992621
>>154992772

Backing up what this guy said, the rarest cards in HS are actually Epics.

Rares are a once-a-pack minimum and Legendary cards have a 40-pack-minimum drop-rate (you'll get at least 1 in 40 packs, basically).

Epics, so far as I know, don't have any guaranteed modifiers, so you'll want your dust for the staple epics for your chosen class.
>>
>>154992935
never respond to a post claiming zoo is control.
luckily this thread is almost over so we won't have to deal with the repercussions
>>
>>154993221
At this point its hard to distinguish between those who genuinely think Zoo is control and those who are just memeing
>>
>>154992772
>>154993037
I guess I'll keep this for a while then, and add >>154992924 when I drop them.
Thanks, guys.
>>
>>154993274
Everyone involved in the discussion is either memeing or getting memed
>>
>>154993274
I posted >>154992501

Yes I was just memeing
>>
>>154993274
it doesn't matter either way just don't reply to them
>>
>>154993274

I thought Zoo was Tempo.
>>
>>154992621
2nd apprentice and/or cult sorcerers
>>
I have a very important question to ask

Thrall or Morgl?
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Which Mishima book to read after Confessions of a Mask?
>>
>>154993590
thrall
>>
>>154993590
Morgl, he's new and fancy
>>
>>154993037
epics are guaranteed 1-in-10, but there's just so fucking many of them.
>>
>>154993650
read Thomas Bernhard instead.
>>
>>154993876
I had stumbled upon a synopsis of "Correction" some months ago,and wanted to read it, but didn't. Eventually i forgot the name and was about to try and look for it just now, but due to your post i've found it.
>>
>>154994309
Anything can happen in the Hearthstone thread.
>>
>>154946509
Wouldn't this be more consistent to just be a spell that summons a 5/7? Sure you don't get, like, Bran synergy, but you also don't have to convince Blizzard to add spell damage to specific battlecries.
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>>154994684
Makes the mechanics simpler and the flavor a little worse.
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Is Rexxar still our guy?
>>
>>154993590
Morgl, angry frog noises never get old
>>
>>154994872
we don't have a guy anymore
>>
>>154935019
My OG homebrew. Innervate, Barnes and Dragonlord.
Mill matchup is very favorable, since they can only destroy Deathwings by letting you draw more Deathwings for Deathwings deathrattle to put on board.
Sucks to mech hunter 70% of the time tho.
>>
>>154994872
>2 human males (cuck and a fuccboi)
>1 night elf male (married)
>1 human female
>1 bloodelf female

>4 orc males
What did they actually mean by this?
>>
>>154995650
Why's Uther a cuck
>>
>>154994872
No more Garrosh, Rexxar is no longer our guy
>>
>>154995650
half ogre
>>
>>154995650
What about the alternate heroes?
>>
>>154995853
Rexxar is actually 1/4 ogre
>>
>>154996032
nigger
>>
>>154995957
Night Elf Male
Night Elf Female
Half Orc Male
3x Orc Male
4x Human Male
Human Female
2x Blood Elf Female
High Elf Female
Murloc
Dwarf Male
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>>154941770
Holy shit fund it right now
This is what yogg players deserve
>>
NU

>>154996625
>>154996625
>>154996625
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>>154996545
>shoot yourself in the face
>draw your deck
>sprint
i like this card
>>
>>154996693
Get fucked nerd
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>>154995957
I actually wouldn't mind something this retarded and overloaded.
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