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Final Fantasy General CCLXXXVI - /ffg/

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>General info on Final Fantasy
The Wiki: finalfantasy.wikia.com
"What version should I play?" Information: http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>FFXV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVhwsUFaDE
https://youtu.be/cji-L0hu1Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUsOpKnHtZY
https://youtu.be/aH0jj4NWFYA
https://youtu.be/Wepgwx_9kto

>FF XII: The Zodiac Age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81NsStczT8E
https://youtu.be/274X0SjKx8M

>World Of FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNMey5SKKkc
https://youtu.be/_FdGg3KKIcE

>FF XI
/ffg/ has a linkshell on Asura: "FearTheVoid"!
FFXI's August update: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/51154?_ga=1.139137075.1275968002.1463817636_ga=1.110236805.1275968002.1463817636
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers

>FF Record Keeper
Game Mechanics PDF: http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf
Upcoming Banners List: http://bantha.org/~dscotton/ffrk.html
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yjUI0AwTAoBxuZlGQQZfaEQMnNt2bUdzm0gMZHXq4Cs/edit#gid=0
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/BxEKaTg3

>FF Brave Exvius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bhRtof5oOA
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vqMFkPjm0cbnxR37U8ATXZEgRPspHSR8UyeCFkTEq10/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

>Mobius FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ipfJv4Qp6g

>Justice Monsters V
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ785B_u6lc

>Other game information
http://pastebin.com/cPCCGXNy

>Vayneposter Filter
https://ghostbin.com/paste/tsjzh

Previous thread: >>154845107
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Thread theme, we all CoD now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPUrxLgGBTw
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>FFTA art and crossovers out of fucking NOWHERE

What does it mean?
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> daily pull since I still have no WoL
> even get a gold crystal
> it's a fucking 4* Cyan

FML

We really need the improved gatcha like JP has gotten it recently.
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>>154916434
>not this version
https://youtu.be/V3c1T7LpURQ
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>>154916434
Can confirm. Also, post teams?
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>>154916581
pulled out a 3* lenna 2 hours ago. would probably pull 2-3 more times for chizuru but ehh... i got what i need
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>>154916581
Same as last thread only thing I'm debating is if CoD should replace Kefka.
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Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.

BOTH OF HIS RELICS ON THE SAME BANNER AND LARSA RELIC ON THAT SAME BANNER AND HE MIGHT BE THE FIRDT MAG/ATK HYBRID DONE RIGHT FUG LADS IT DOESNT GET BETTER THAN THIS
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>>154916561
May as well post them all now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U1fY9LXnMk

>>154916581
Satisfaction.
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>>154916812
Congrats, anon.
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>>>/wsg/1292022
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>>154916581
FFVfag's log: Stardate 94311.61

I have seen no sign of Galuf anywhere and I begin to grow weary. I have located some kind of strange green titty monster, but the search continues.
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>>154917173
at least you got the treeman's waifu
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How is this for a BE team?
Lenna/CoD/Juggler/Artemios/Kefka
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>>154917035
You obtained a Chocobo chick!
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>>154916707
>>154916787
>>154916879
>>154917173

>mfw everyone except me has a Lenna
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>>154917274
Pretty damn good
You don't really need a tank but Vaan/WoL replacing juggler would be a bonus
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>>154917362
well I'd like to have them
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2* Tyro in Mobius is such an annoying little cunt. I don't see any way you could ever lose to him, but Sentinel's Grimoire just makes the fight way longer than it needs to be.
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>>154917173
You'll get Faris once the banner comes out, mark my words.
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Once I max her out, should I switch Bartz with CoD for team leader?
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>>154916581
Barrage incoming!
Not my main team doe.
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>>154917712
Keep Bartz I never summon CoD leaders because that bitch takes 3 years to finish her animations
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>>154916434
>>154916561

Obligatory purist response: Your versions lack the visceral quality of the original. The Black Mages one even has a slow bridge part. The fuck are you doing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOqyn5kdTCo

(Go ahead and like them. I just really enjoy this one.)
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>go through 4 INT vortexes in a row with no crystals
>get this

okay
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I reinstalled just to roll. Already had kefka. Did I do good?
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>>154917326
I have five lenna's
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Are Rain and Laswell worth keeping or should I drop them?

I have Cyan, Amarat, Kain, Celes and Sabin who could come in.

The rest of my party is Kefka, Cecil and Lenna.
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>>154918767
It's not like you can throw them away, if you get so unlucky you never get Full Break, know that Rain gets it at 6*
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>>154918767
You can replace Rain with Celes
Lasswell can stay for now
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>>154918767
If I were you I'd make a team of Cecil/Kefka/Lenna/Celes/Amarant.

Amarant is tanky and has a good combo with draw attack/counter. Raise can always be useful.

Celes is good, not a wallbreaker, but Focus is nice to have especially since you have Kefka and works in tandem with Lenna's cheer.

Drop the donuts anon.
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5k pull. got zidane, locke, firion, CoD, Lenna, Kefka & rest was shit.

Already have Vaan so i guess I don't need WoL. can't be mad at all that's some good ass luck.
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>FFVI, save Cid or not?
>Cid living doesn't really add anything.
>Cid dying gets me that emotional scene.

Eat slow fish, Granddad.
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>>154919951
Zidane alone makes your pull worth it. That's honestly a godly pull anon.
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>>154920082
>Letting Cid die
Monster.
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>>154920082
Celes is a monster and SHE WILL DESTROY HIM!
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>>154920134
I'd have let him live if I got a reward for it.
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>2* red chocobos have Fire
Finally some kirin fodder
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>>154916434

>Cloud of Darkness is a cosmic disaster happening when light and dark are in imbalance
>BE is currently experiencing a CoD deluge

Is this the end of the world of Lapis?
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>>154921039
Yes. Brave Exvius will die.

Square is making sure we all move to Mobius.
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Reminder that Caius Ballad did nothing wrong.
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What banners does Celes bsb return on? Deciding if I should waste more myth on this one. I just want her bsb and Beatrix's
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>>154921445
He did plenty of wrong by every objective metric, especially because his actions were thoroughly selfish.
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>>154921507
Not for a while it seems.
Which sucks cause i do like the enholy effect, but i can't justify pulling on the awful banner when all i want is one relic.
At least beatrix bsb is a few banners away.
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>>154921445
>looks like someone who never grew out of his linkin park phase
>"""""""""""""nothing wrong""""""""""""""
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>>154918358
>5 INT vortex in a row
>not a single Holy Crystal

That's not ok at all anon
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>>154918543
Between yes and no. The lack of Lenna hurts your performance.
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>>154922265
I did a 5 single pulls and got cards and chocobrush. Guess I should call it since my luck is wiped out.

rip celes
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>>154922276
>trying this hard
(You)
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>>154922671
Lenna is the only one I don't have out of the five. I honestly don't know what's good or not anymore.
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>>154921445
>Support a character from a game so bad that no one wants to play it enough to analyze his actions to the point of effectively debating you
A winning strategy if I've ever seen one.
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>Spend summon ticket on new banner
>Gold crystal appears
>Get Lani
>IncoherentRage.jpg
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Hey, where can I find the orb reward for future events? I thought I could maybe find it in the enlir's spreadsheet but no dice there.
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>>154918543
Kefka, WoL, CoD
it's pretty solid, only lacking Lenna but you can remedy that wit Fina
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>tfw 27 metal Gigantuars

Ha ha! Time for level 80!
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>do 30 10+1 pulls and 11 tickets
>pull 5-6 lennas, 1 clown, and a heavy serving of memes
>4 golds total; edgar, shadow, kain, and bedile
>tfw

I think this will be the last time I'm going to pull for a while.
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>>154923242
Aww forgot my image
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>>154923265
Jesus. How much lapis did you have at the start?
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>>154916812
It could be a little better, he could also get an OSB. But that a little unrealistic right?

But hey, elaborate on Vayne being the first hybrid done right, what does he have going for him that makes it work?
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>>154922969
>got lani once on the ff9 banner
>got her 3 times on the ff6 banner and 2 times on the TA banner
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>>154920082

>mfw facing this "dilemma."

It's a win-win. Cid is the only person I hate in the entire game, the naive fool. He besmirches the name. Repeatedly letting Shadow die on the Floating Continent for thematic reasons still stings a bit.
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>>154923265
>30 10+1 pulls
Please tell me you meant to type 3.
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>>154923426
>>154923895
fuck off poorfags
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>>154923728
His SBs do damage based on whatever his highest stat is between ATK/MAG.
It's cool and all, but if neither of his stats are that great to begin with I don't see the point.
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>>154923426
>>154923895

Meant 3, probably fat fingered a 0 while typing on the keypad.

God damn was getting some bullshit of a 4* crystal infuriating.
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>>154923372
>>154923242
WELP GUESS I KNOW WHAT I'M USING THEM ON (besides firion)

Fuck yeah this banner
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>>154924092
>God damn was getting some bullshit of a 4* crystal infuriating
It happens the vast majority of the time when you get a gold, though.

Not even joking here, but if you don't like that then you should play JP. Gold crystals only give out characters with a base 4* in that version.
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>>154923947
>spending real currency for moving pixels
>not even a real video game, a bloody mobage
Pitiful, really.
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>>154924124
Firion is trash

t. Firion user
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>tfw no beeg Viria teetees

at least I have 3 Terras to TM farm now
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>First ticket on FB summon
>pic related

I'm not spending any more ticket in this shit, fuck this
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>>154924220
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>>154924289
You're trash.
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>>154923728
What
>>154924012
Said, which doesn't mean too much without his stats or gearsets but does mean that you can build him a number of different ways and take advantage of stacking mag buffs or stacking ATK buffs.

It could certainly be better, but it's already a lot better than I thought it would be so Jesus fuck am I happy.
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>>154924340
Unless you've got a solid team it's worth it to do daily pulls at least kupo.
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>>154922785
choco brush is good though
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>>154917173
Another FFV fag here. Just got Lenna today , Bartz just doesn't pop up. Galuf is just an ok character for a 10/10 team but fuck it, I love that old man.
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>>154924654
They never said it wasn't.
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The A team. If I get don't get Chizuru or another CoD I might swap Thief in for Kefka to have an all physical team/have someone using Enhancer.

Also have a mage squad with Celes/Kefka/Kefka/Exdeath/Tellah.
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RIP hit and run.
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>>154924829
If you're going to repost from reddit, at least go into more detail.
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>Sabin
FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF
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>>154924814
I wish I could draw some physical characters, the game loves to give me mages, so my mage team is
Kefka/Kefka/Kefka/Golbez/Tellah
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My hopes, crushed in an instant.
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>>154925101
Literally all the detail you need is in the code. It just means that you won't be able to escape battle to build your SB and come back.
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>>154925141

>tfw no Sabin yet
>tfw 2 Edgars pulled from 4 of the fucking featureing summons today

The figaro brothers are fucking cancer, at least I got Lenna and CoD so I'm not mad
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>>154924289
so are the rest of my units
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>>154924490
I couldn't handle the autism and did the rest of the tickets. 17 pulls in total, pls r8.

I hate myself right now
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I already have Lenna, so I'm not especially excited for this.
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>>154925248
Mages have been far and away my most common pulls. 3x Golbez 4x Kefka, Tellah, Exdeath, 2x Terra. There's some great units there but literally my only physical pulls have been CoD/Artemios/Thief.
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Did an 11 pull. This happened.

Best banner ever.
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>>154925265
Brutal.

He's cute though. Decent TM? If you need an instrument?

>>154925352
Multiple Edgars can cheese through trial bosses with their multihit moves and elemental weapons racking up chains.
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>got 4 lennas and 2 kefkas today
>my four star was another fucking penelo
I don't know whether to be happy I got two great characters or annoyed that RNG gave me 6 banner characters but I still somehow only got 2/5
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>>154925798
Start farming that staff, anon! Future healers will thank you.
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How the fuck do people get 5 star pulls in BE?
I've been playing since release and have never seen one. Just how rare are they?
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>>154925298
People did that? Didnt even know it's possible, as long as they don't touch reseting the fights, I don't care
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>>154925584
Also, should I keep pulling for WoL? I don't have a full breaker yet, though fencer has a few pretty good stat breakers.
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>>154925894
It's just RNG. I don't think we have any 5* base units in global anyways, so it's really just a bonus to not have to grind up from 3 or 4.

ALTHOUGH you don't get the lower rank dex entry if you pull at 5 or 4 star.
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>>154926102
Do you have Cecil? If so, don't - Rain gets full break and an extremely good party buff called Leadership in 6*. If you don't have Cecil, WoL is a good thing to pull for. Not necessary for much yet, but he's a great unit.
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>>154925494
>WoL
If you consider the fact that some people managed to pull more than a hundred times without getting him, I'd say you did good.
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>>154926208
I have Cecil, Leo, and Amarant. Not using Cecil at the moment, though he is lvl 80. Kind of dead weight right now.

I'll probably switch out Leo for Chizuru now, too. Tanks seem pretty unnecessary right now.
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Fuck yes.

So my A team would be wol, cod, cod, and lenna?

For Mage should I use kefka, golbez or kuja?
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>>154926569
>that player name
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>>154925063
What are we looking at here.
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>>154926684
Orbsfest never had a ++.
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>WoL
>Kain
>Kefkax2
>krile
>kuja
>shantoto
>vivi
>rydia
>firion
>golbez
>story trio
what should my new lineup be?
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>>154926551
Yeah, that's probably a good idea. I've been keeping Cecil around to slowly work on his TM and throw out the occasional bar* spell, but there's no need for a dedicated tank yet. There will be in the future, but given that you'll get a guaranteed full breaker and you already have Cecil, you probably don't NEED WoL unless his offensive tanking style is really that much more appealing to you.
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>>154926764
Kain Kefka Krile Kuja, obviously. The KKKK.
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>>154926551
Actually, this brings up another question: my current team is Artemios, Kefka, Leo, Golbez, and Fencer. I'm gonna want to be using that Chizuru and CoD now. Who to switch out?
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>>154916006
I'm thinking of buying an FF game, either FFX, FFX2, FF12, FFTAG2, or FF Adventure or whatever that new one is called with the jobs.

Has to be for 3DS or PS2. Give me your suggestions.
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>>154926924
XII
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>>154926924
either X or XII
XII got more exploration content I think especially with monster hunting
X got tons of mini-games if you're into that shit, but they're more tedious than fun if you ask me
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>>154926924
you can't play x2 without having played x
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Hey this guy >>154925462 here

Should my party by Artemios/WoL/Firion/Lenna/Exdeath?
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>>154926924
12, it's fucking good.
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>>154925462
You're fucking baiting I hope
Godtier:
>Lenna
>WoL
>Exdeath
Good:
>Celes
>Leo
>Tellah
>Kefka
>Locke
>Artemios
Okay:
>Golbez
>Hayate
>Krile
Firion is not REALLY trash, just not as good as people say he is simply because of -killer abilities, which are overrated as fuck. He's above average I'd say.

You have great TMs characters to boot. Literally nothing to bitch about. Now shut up and go grind some levels.
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>>154926924
XII > TAG2 > X
the others aren't really worth buying unless you happen to really like X-2 waifus for some reason.
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>>154926569
Kefka is far better than the other two
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>>154926861
Swap Fencer for Chiz, and maybe Golbez for CoD. That's what I'd do.
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is Exdeath or Kefka better as my teams only mage?

I'm using Kefka atm for that sweet Heartless Angel and Hyperdrive, but I just pulled my first Exdeath and am unsure if I should switch.
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>>154925894
When I started I got 5* Terra, 5* Firion and 5* Miyuki.

I got meme'd and kept the account instead of rolling for Exdeath/CoD and the usual MUH top tier. Oh well.
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>>154927306
Fencer is actually my best physical attacker right now. 346 attacks, plus AoE, plus stat breakers stronger than armor/power break. She's actually pretty damn beastly. Swallowtail can 1-hit mobs in Dwarf's Forge. Also, I'd have no one to really put enhancer to good use.
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>>154927249
>>154927203
>>154927186
>>154926964
So 12 seems to be the consensus. Is there anyway I can make the playthrough difficult, like what Nuzlocke did to Pokemon?

I've heard halfway through the game everyone becomes a non distinguishable mutant that can do everything.
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>>154927374

Kefka currently is the best choice for global but that will change. Definitely level and gear that Exdeath.
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>>154927246
it kinda was bait to get a team suggestion kek, ty anon
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>>154927470
Holy fuck, I had no idea Fencer was that much of a beast. Maybe I should level up mine.
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>>154927482
XII IZJS has some difficulty modules I believe.

>I've heard halfway through the game everyone becomes a non distinguishable mutant that can do everything.

You're thinking of X.
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>>154926569
Kefka hands down. Highest magic, heartless angel is great for colosseum, and hyperdrive does massive non-elemental damage. Plus he has a 6* coming. It's not even close.
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>>154927470
Keep Fencer, viera tiddies are better than used goods.

Plus she has more tricks up her bunny sleeves. If you have a Barrage TM now's the time to grind it and give it to her.

6* are still a while away.
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>>154927492
Thanks, I will.
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>>154927526
Why not just ask straight you cretin? The thread is literally a "help me out with my team"
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>>154927531
She gets attack +20% and a huge attack boost when using a sword. Only thing she doesn't have, really, is barrage. Piercing blow is pretty good single target, though.
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What does my new C team needs?

>>154926265
I was aiming for him, Chizuru and Lenna. I guess something is better than nothing
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>>154927568
No its definitely 12. The licenses made it that you eventually had characters that all did the same thing, all had the same gear, all had the same augments.
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>>154927607
I could use both, though.
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>>154927531
She is amazing, with just enhancer, 2 hero rings, tiger mask, black belt and level 40 ifrit she has 360 atk, with a 10% passive 372.

She is only worst compared to other phys attackers because she lacks barrage, but her higher atk usually compensates. If you can farm Lunas for barrage she is the best.
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>>154927690
More fun to incite bigger reactions? To be fair I didn't realize my units were that stacked, I quit Exvius for a while after going through the first 2.5 islands with a garbage team (4 golbez lul)

Came back to do daily draws and they've given me Lenna, Exdeath, and WoL. Guess jewgle wanted me back
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>>154927826
Not that guy and also don't have fencer, but how worth it is barrage. I have 4 Lunas, how long would it take to macro it with them?
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>>154925894
My only 5* pull was a WoL a few weeks ago and I've been playing since 2 months before global release.
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>>154925894
Release player, only one and it was my 4th golbez
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>>154927695
Levels

Better esper placement would be nice too.
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>>154926924
out of these, X or XII

X-2 is a direct sequel that would make no sense to you.
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>>154927482
>a non distinguishable mutant that can do everything.
they fixed that in IZJS if you're able to emulate PS2 on PC. Otherwise it's always going to happen on base XII.
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>>154928167
The best phys ability for now and can make some units like Firion and Leo quite good damage dealers, lose some value later because it is quite bad for chaining.

If you grind 24/7 and get at least 5% a day it should take you 4~5 days as you need 21.2~21.3% with each unit
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ugh. after spending like 6 tickets and my daily roll, really only got CoD thats good. guess Golbez isnt terrible... but not that good.

then a bunch of Fran and Galuf and Shadow fodder
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>>154928841
Zodiac isn't an option and I'm not interested in running it on PC. Appreciate it though.

I'll narrow it down later between 12 or just a stack of books. Thanks dorks.
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>>154927482
Just don't grind too much, or be a real man and place restrictions on the net of LP you'll use and where yourself.
Or IZJS if you can get it, but you mentioned a ps2 so idunno if you want to emulate or not.
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Damn, this is the first time I see a Rinoa that's actually good looking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuC-nIdz_pc
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>have 4 shantottos now
mag +30% here i come
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>>154930216
jesus fucking christ the cringe
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>>154930216
that battle in the middle made me think of this classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYqFJxVuBc
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>>154930537
STOP
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>>154930458
>>154930537
Yeah, the battle is fucking cringe as hell. Thought that the Rinoa cosplay looked pretty nice tho
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>>154930569
i don't need friends i'm part of the darkness
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>30 pulls cause whatever, I'm bored of this game
>CoD x3

well I the physical attackers I needed. Was hoping for Lenna or a WoL.
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>>154929694
>>154930857
>>154926569
>>154925584
>>154925494

Next Thread a CoD Edition?
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>>154930191
I don't think I grinded much during my playthrough just whatever was near me as I played and there wasn't much difficulty in the game. He would have to actively not fight due to how vast the maps are.
Im surprised no one has actually done a complete "hard" playthrough" /something like this before.
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>>154930216
I love Lindsey Stirling, but why did it take so long for her to do a Final Fantasy song.

Also the Skyrim battle scene was better and a hell of a lot more cheesy
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>>154930216
wait...she plays a part of celes' opera song and doesn't dress the part
>TRIGGERED!
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>>154931239
Make sure to donate to her so she can afford more costumes next time! :^)
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Hi. I haven't played a FF since X, nearly a decade ago. But XV, so far, looks incredible.

From what I've heard, XV has some thematic connections to the XIII series. Should I play these first? Or are the connections common elements that appear through most FF games, like Chocobos, magic crystals and the like and XIII can be safely ignored?
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Who would win?


Anyone else have a change of taste while replaying FF? When I was younger I liked Tifa a lot but replaying my taste moved over Aerith.
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>bedile
i used to think he was neat when i first started.
now he's the bane of my existence.
fuck you and your dead wife
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>>154931617
they were going to, along with Type 0. but after XIII turned out... polarizing, they instead changed that idea, and jsut gave XIII a shovelware trilogy
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>>154931617
it used to have connections but by this point they're all gone

don't play XIII and I say this as someone who eventually thought it was okay
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>>154931617

You can completely ignore XIII. Thank god.

The developer stated that there will be some common mythology elements, but it's a brand new world and most concepts and characters will not be transferring across in any form.

Also, so few people actually played the entire XIII series that it would be kind of absurd to base any new title on knowing stuff from, say, Lightning Returns.
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In FFT, do I want a permanent Chemist, or can I keep an Archer around for novelty?
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>>154931725
Squall easily. in terms of physical combat, Squall pretty much the most refined and skilled of all FF Protagonists. and well... guns are useless unless you're fighting Cloud
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>>154931617
It used to be connected more when it was part of the same subseries as 13 and Type-0, but now it 15 is more or less it's own thing. They actually got rid of most of the connections so players wouldn't be confused by things related to the 13 games.
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>>154931617

>Them basing anything on the FFXIII trilogy

Lightning Returns sold 18% of the copies of FFXIII.

Consumers were absolutely tired of the trilogy, and getting increasingly alienated.

FFXV is a clean break from the series. A few names might pop up, but it's to the extent of Gilgamesh showing up in FFIX.
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>>154931617
worry not. XIII compilation is separate. and XV has its own Compilation for you to hate and wish didnt exist.
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>>154931742
>>154931796
>>154931818
>>154931920
>>154931995

Alright, thanks.

I really didn't want to play the XIII series, so that's a relief.
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>>154931995

>Gilgamesh in IX

When?
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>>154932171
its super subtle. Just an NPC you see in a crowd, and i think involves the Chinese Triple Triad knock off mini-game.
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>>154932171

He's the four-armed bandit guy who shows up occasionally and ranks your treasure hunting skills.
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>>154932171
and yes, somehow this is the same one we know
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>>154931834
yeah
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>>154932171
History of Gilgamesh:

He Was the Number One to Exdeath in FFV, but blunders caused him to be discarded into the Void.

We see him next in FFVIII, after Odin is slained by Seifer, the Void rift opens up and Gilgamesh claims Zentesuken, confused by the new world, but wipes out Seifer and hangs out with Squall and gang

He eventually returns to the rift and appears in FFIX, having stayed there for a while and getting a name for himself before returning to the void.

Makes appearences through tiem and space in remakes of FFI along with Exdeaths own Psuedo Four Fiends group, and VI remakes, and even in the IV sequel.

His next big stop is Ivalice in XII where eh hunts legendary weapons, and fights the heroes over a legendary sword twice as a super boss. and sticks around for the sequel too.

in XIII-2 he is summoned,a s dlc, in the Colosseum as a super boss. not much there.

and ultimately he is led to Dissidia Land which is his last knowns top as he recognizes all the characters he encountered before. especially Bartz, Squall, and Zidane.
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>>154932081
>I really didn't want to play the best games in the series
Why are you even asking about FNC in XV then?
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>>154933182
Please be bait please be bait please be bait
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>>154931725
>literal goddess
>common foot soldier with attitude problem
wew tough choice
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>>154933182

>best games in the series

Thanks, anon. I needed a good laugh.
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>>154933341
>One defeats a goddness capable of controlling time and even absorbs it.
>Other kinda defeats robo pope, but really jsut kinda stands back and watches two other characters win the game

Lightning couldn't even beat Seifer
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This is where I am after blowing all my tickets, basically I got Lenna and CoD and a cheeky Cecil on top of that. Still no WoL or Chizuru or any Full Break of any sort, though.

Am I set?
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>>154931038

>tfw the sexy incarnation of non-existence will never hijack your plot
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>>154933858
what is with this CoD rate? i mean, no complaints, its great. but really. jeez.
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>>154933996
She really is Protomecia.

Anyone else think they even tried hard to make her/it look more like Ultimecia in Dissidia?
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Any news on a release date for dissidia mobile?
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>>154930857
decided to spend more tickets.

Finally got my Lenna! Got a second Chiz. The only think I lack is a Full Breaker. Leo is my tank right now, which is fine for now, will eventually have to upgrade him but I'm good for now.
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I think RK really wanted to let me know about the Prima Donna event
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>>154934115

FF3 feels like a proto-FF in general. When I played it, it was pretty cool to see where most of the ideas I had already seen in later games came from.

Except the fat genie boss. Why did they stop having fat genie bosses?
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>>154933312
>>154933360
Considering the guy being replied to above chose to pass on XIII without ever having played them, I don't find these kind of posts conducive to an actual defense of the 'XIII is bad' meme.
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>>154935160
>p-please come play
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>>154935160
Celes is shy to show you were dress
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I got all summon tickets, shield, pestle, trust moogle and HP boost. I have 14k cakes left....star quartz? Or Megacites?
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>>154936118

Quartz nigga
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>>154936118
>HP boost
Trash.
In order: Star quartz, screamroot/fine alcryst, megacites, holy/sacred crystals, metal gigantuar, the rest
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>tfw you uninstall a mobage and luck gets transferred into the another
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>>154936734
>screamroot/fine alcryst
what are those for?

and HP boost is good. The only one I have is a 10% one
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>>154930081
You can play it on a PS2 also.

If you wait a little while, they're rereleasing IZJS 12 in HD,


It's the best final fantasy (vanilla ff12 is the worst final fantasy) so you should do it.
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>>154937073

Used to make keys that open the white chests in explorations. 95% of them are filled with garbage.

I'd prioritze the screamroots, because they are an absolute bitch to get. You got a 20% chance I think of getting a fine alcryst when making abilities, so just make a fuckload of poisonas or some other cheap ability that doesn't take forever and you'll be getting them pretty fast.
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Decided my first 5* skills are gonna be Full Break, Saint Cross, and Dark Zone. None of them have overlap in major orbs so I can stockpile them, but I'm looking for advice on how best to get them. Just grind ++ dailies when open? Is there any way to abuse magic pots I run into? Even though in closer to honing all 3, I know they all have to be R2 at least
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>>154937787
Given how dirt cheap they are in terms of cakes, and the fact that we're still getting daily ingredients for premium cakes, getting both shouldn't be an issue.
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>>154937621
>Vanilla XII is the worst
No. XII, in either form, is the best final fantasy if you like the battle system. IZJS is better than vanilla, but even if you hate the battle system even vanilla is only objectively mediocre at worst.
It certainly isn't at II or XIII levels, hell it isn't even at last-half-of-VIII levels of bad.
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>>154938027

True dat
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>>154938003
There is nothing you can do but grind the highest stamina costing dailies and hope for the faggot pot to drop you a Major Orb once in a blue moon that is not white.
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>>154932925
What about Type-0?
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>>154932435
>somehow
I also wonder how this guy with MIGHTY MORPHIN POWERS ever managed to look like that. Especially when multiple arms are a clear theme in his transformations.

Truly a mystery to this day.
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>>154938059
It's the worst Final Fantasy because it deprives you of ever experiencing the best for the first time.

And that is the worst thing of all.
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>>154933341
>literal goddess
That literally means nothing in a jrpg. Teenagers with attitude problems are the god slayers.
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>>154938414
>tfw gilga was actually Blank
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>>154937787
I haven't made any chest keys, just used the ones I find. I should probably look up what stuff I'm missing and make keys. Then again, it seems like most of that shit is outclassed immediately by what dropped in mogcake and high tier bosses. Having Enhancer, Masamune and Pestle means I have top damage items. These will hold me over until I TM some items
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>>154916006
YUFFIE A SHIT!

A FUCKING SHIT!
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>>154933182

Because from what I've seen of the gameplay and characters, it didn't appeal much at all.

I've also been spoiled on several key plot points to death and back.

I'd play through it for XV if I had to, but by all accounts, I don't.
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>>154938812
If you have a mage, you should get +10% MAG from Maranda Coast.

Other than that and possibly Bug Killer, there's nothing to get that's even remotely worthwhile.
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>>154916006
marry/fuck/kill, go
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>>154939026
Marry Tifa, Fuck Yuffie, Kill Aerith trick question, she's already dead
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>>154939026
You already have it in order, why would I need to fix it?
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>>154938003
Full Break is useful at R1 against bosses, but you'll have to budget it so it makes your supporter damage stink most of the time.

Grinding the dailies helps over time, but you are looking at a really long time before you could build up enough orbs even using exchange. Most of mine came from event dungeons. Looking at the Gold Fes event, I think that it comes with an orb dungeon, so that might help you along.
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What is this event for Opera Omnia when its not even out. Someone translate these moon runes

http://www.jp.square-enix.com/DFFOO/sp/event/
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>>154935285

>characters are mostly one-issue wonks (though since you could apply that to most FF games, it gets a pass)
>game design of first game is painfully linear
>Battle System is very much taste-dependent
>as a trilogy, the plot veers erratically due to setting, pov and character changes

I bought and played XIII and regretted it.

I bought and played most of XIII-2 and regretted it.

I watched a Let's Play of Lightning Returns, gave up a third of the way through and regretted wasting that much time.

As a rule, almost all FF sequels are terrible and two thirds of the trilogy were, by definition, sequels.

The After Years is sort of the only exception in FF in general, and even then there's a lot of 'Deal with problem you dealt with before, only now it's recoloured!'.
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>>154938801
>>154938414
For reference
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>>154938986
thanks, just picked that up now.

The killer abilities seem like a waste of ability spots unless you will be fighting that as a major boss.
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>>154938059
I like the battle system but I wouldn't call vanilla 12 the best. The game's pacing is weak and I never felt connected to the characters the way I have other FFs. It was like I was a distant observer of characters who didn't speak all that often and despite ostensibly having depth to their character it was never really shown to me.

Last-half-of-VIII and XIII rank higher than XII for me.
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I NEED XV NOW
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How do you pre register for an app when you don't have a jp Google account? Can you set one up?
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>>154939787
I NEED XII HD NOW
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>>154938059
I hate FFXIII has a bad battle system crap. It's the only good thing about FFXIII
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>>154939026
Aeris and Tifa are the only options for Marry/Fuck. Yuffie is great but she seems like she would get too drunk at parties and embarrass herself and me in front of anyone and then when she's sober the next day she'd say I was overreacting and that I needed to learn how to have fun when all I wanted was for her to stop laughing so goddam loud at everything the rich architect douche would say because it was obnoxious and his wife was visibly annoyed too so it wasn't me being weird about it either.
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>>154939787
>>154939920
I NEED BOTH OF THEM NOW

All this waiting is suffering.
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>>154940174
This is an oddly specific scenario.
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>>154940174
>Yuffie is great but she seems like she would get too drunk at parties...
Uhmmm anon? Venting something from real life there?
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>>154940174
>Yuffie is great but
I thought it'd be a 50-50 with your scenario and her being really conservative and nice.

>Tifa
Heart belongs to Cloud.

>Aeris
based Zack's.
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>>154931864
Noctis is probably a close second or even on par with Squall. He doesn't have Squall's military discipline, but his acrobatics and sheer range of weapon proficiency is unparalleled among the FF protags.
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>>154941431

Noctis is a mage, weapon master and summoner rolled into one.
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>>154941683
Big deal, so is Lightning-sama.
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>>154941829
Lightning got her skills from literal divine intervention she doesnt count
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Holy fuck, this guy is a massive asshole, so much fucking damage.
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>>154942152
Cool soundtrack though
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>>154942238
one of the few good tracks in the game
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I've played just about every FF apart from 6. Which version is best, SNES, PS1 or GBA? I heard the mobile ports were shitty.
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>>154942468
SNES or GBA, stay away from the mobile ports and the PS1 version
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>>154942468
GBA with a music patch. The default GBA's music got scrambled.
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>>154942468
>I've played just about every FF apart from 6
saving the best for last?
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>>154942238
I agree, the Kimahri fight had a very good soundtrack to it too, it really set the mood and seeing how the Ronso reacted to him and the party after it was really-really heart warming.
Man, this is great.
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>>154942546

What about the GBA version is superior to the SNES version? I can emulate either with no problem.

>>154942617

I guess so. For whatever reason up until recently, SNES and GBA were tricky for me to emulate. I played FF1, 2 and 4 on PSP, 3 on DS, V on a glitchy GBA emulator on PSP (I'll be replaying that one after VI), and everything else on their original console as they came out.

I haven't played XIII-2 or LR, but I despised FFXIII in just about every way besides music, so I don't think I'm missing much.
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>>154938889
This
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>>154943094
>What about the GBA version is superior to the SNES version?
Neater, more accurate translation, extra dungeon with superboss, added espers. While it's not much more, it's not anything less, either. Except for the music, but there's patched ROMs out there.
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>>154941683
>dat high-speed clash against Marilith
>dat underwater attack in the Brotherhood teaser
If he's that good at the very beginning of the game and while saddled with PTSD, he's going to be an absolute monster later on.
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>>154943461

OK, cool, thanks anon.
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>>154943704
It's already confirmed that he's gonna get older and weaker as the game progresses.
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>>154939026
I never understood the "fuck" part of this little survey thing. Does it mean you would never have sex with the one you married?

So to properly answer your question, I would marry/fuck Tifa, and kill Aeris and Yuffie. Aeris and Yuffie never loved you and never will, Yuffie will probably take half your shit and leave anyways and Aeris will leave you as a widower
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>>154939398
>linear
The "L" word boogeyman of vidya. Stating this like it's a horrible "game design" decision is ridiculous.
>taste-dependent
The case for all battle systems and games. XIII lets you skip encounters and the battles are fast and flashy, which is an objective improvement over random encounter games and XII's slow system.
>plot veers erratically
This is actually true and a solid point against the games compared to whining about linearity.
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www.ffrkcentral.com/profile/KoDA#tab_soulstrikes
should i stick with Keeper's Tome as my RW for now? started out in mid-april but trying to get useful SBs for others to use. for KT, 287 MND is the highest i can get at the moment though
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>>154943094
>What about the GBA version is superior to the SNES version?
Fixed bugs, from genji gloves, to relm's sketch and other little things that escape my mind
Added espers, gilgamesh, leviathan, and a couple others
a chance to get Mog's water dance in the world of ruin
cleaner translation
More weapons from the new dungeon
The ability to fight Kefka in his tower, steal the good shit, save after the credits and respawn outside his tower to do it all over again. Just kefka and the warring triad, other bosses will be ded
A new dungeon where you refight all the dragons using the 3 party system, new mechanics added to boss fights
An arena/endurance style dungeon, you die on fight 7, you restart from 1. You die on fight 11, you can restart on fight 10, etc. option to leave every 5 or 10 floors, I forget.


Also, whatever version you decide to do.. remember to take a few hours to steal Genji Gloves from Dragons on the Floating Isle, before Atma Weapon, but after the last save point. Some of those new post game new dungeon battles are brutal and you need to fart out every 9999 damage you can do
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>>154943461
Except the graphics are honestly trash tier in the GBA release.
Extra content is sub-par, new espers are superfluous.

I'd rather look for a patched SNES version than patching that GBA awfulness.
>>
>started playing FF1 DoS from that dude from last week
>everyone said thieves/ninjas suck
>say fuck it, its easy anyways
>currently my thief is doing the most damage on the team because his AGI allows more attacks
I feel weird.
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LAST CALL

Get your votes in and then I'm closing it at the end of the day!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd8crTGhFA6DlGFESEyw2EAzhU9HOwdJdqN4Dwh_b3wgZt7Yw/viewform
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>>154939458
best bro
any other FF MC's bro that can top this guy?
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>>154945279
I would say so, but DG and Shout are always good options.
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>>154945550
>Except the graphics are honestly trash tier in the GBA release.
Nigga it looks exactly the same.
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Is it better to max a gold chocobo or buy a fat chocobo and max it out? Which card has better capped stats/extra skills?
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>>154945550
Are you thinking about the iOS version or something? The graphics aren't changed, except perhaps aliased a little more producing sharper-looking sprites.
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>>154943461
>FF6 GBA music
>Bad
I dunno about you but I got a little adapter for my GBA SP and plug in headphones and it sounds alright.
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>>154945648
I hope you kill yourself soon, cause you are really looking for attention
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>>154946106
There's a decided difference in absolute instrument quality.
Contrast:
SNES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMd6V1IOJ5k
GBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vbEy2F4oW0
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>>154946106
Uemastu did his best work in VI
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>>154946263
Eww, that's is fucking shit. Why though? Midi doesn't take that much information space, and the software is free to use. How could they fuck it up that bad
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>>154944772
Marriage implies fucking, but it also means you end up spending a long time together with someone. I'm sure you've probably run into loads of women that you think are attractive but don't want to be around.
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>>154945825
>>154945994
>Exactly the same
>Graphics aren't changed

Yeah, aside from the fact that they poured bleach on the GBA version, and made it more awkward to move (try riding chocobos/airships in the SNES version, and then the GBA).
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>>154946750
There's probably visual patches too, who cares.
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>>154945796
thank you, anon. with Shout, i lack MND relics to boost it above 180~ for nice usage while Divine Guardian was the prior RW. that one was great for a while before switching over to KT.

>>154946106
gba ports of ffv & ffvi music are definitely lower quality, but some tracks are good listens despite that 2bh
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>>154944772
You can want to fuck a slut once or twice and not marry her.
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>>154946750
Did this have something to do with the fact that it was a handheld so brightness mattered more?
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>>154946750
So not only you have to patch the sound, but the graphics too

Kek
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>>154946823
People with more than 10 INT
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>>154946156
wicked bait xD
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>>154944435
Not quite. His arsenal, summoning and magic skills will get stronger, since without the ring he's limited to his internal magic only. The Crystal connection causes cancer, true, but he may lose his mortality later on. He's a demi-god in a human body, so one of these things will have to go.
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>>154944772
Fuck is like a one night stand/ friends with benefits thing, not a lasting romantic relationship like Marry is.
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>>154947359
>>154946876
ITT sluts.
You only fuck your waifu anons, what kind of filthy sluts are you?
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>>154916581
Wish i had a CoD but this is pretty beefy
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why are there no healers or dps for bowl of embers extreme today on the aether network?
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>>154948089
And I am in the wrong god damn tab.
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>>154947946
>that Esper placement
anon pls
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>>154948089
1. because /xivg/ is thataway
2. because Extreme Primals are very outdated content
3. because everyone's in a downtime before 3.4's patch
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>>154948089
>>154948206
Nice Light-sama image though. I'll be saving it
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>>154946750
>game has higher brightness because it was on GBA

You fucking nincompoop that's the only graphical difference. Just turn down the brightness. Don't you dare tell some anon looking for the best experience to skip the superior version because you're going full hipster over brightness for no reason. Jesus Christ.
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>>154946948
It's exactly that. The original GBA screen is super dim, so they adjusted it so it'd look fine and clear on that, but if you play on a better screen (like from an emulator on a monitor), then they're tweaked way too brightly.
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>>154948447
>not downloading a gba emulator for your phone and playing through FF6 on there

You're basically already doing it with RK, like sheeeeit
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>>154948215
What's wrong with it? I know when we need tanks wol will be with golem but golem has the second highest attack besides ifrit and dmg is king now
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>>154948436
That being said, it really would have been nice for VI (and V) to get a real graphical upgrade instead of the mobile monstrosity. I really liked the IV PSP remake, even though I know some people still didn't like the way the character battlle sprites looked.
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>>154948729

>touch screen

Ew.
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>>154948995
Why the FUCK did we not get a psp remake of 6? imagine how beautiful it could have been. But nope, gotta remake 4 twice. Fuck you squeenix
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>>154925894
Literally 1%.
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I have never played any FF game and the only thing I actually know is there's a guy named Cloud.

What do I play?
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>>154948985
If you're going to do that for damage move Shiva to Lenna and Ramuh to Kefka
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>>154950206
7
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>>154950206

If you can handle super blocky early PS1 graphics, play 7 first, it's what gets a lot of people into the franchise.
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>chizuru and warrior of light have a 2% pull rate while the others have 7%

YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M MAD
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>>154950251
>>154950510
but 7 is one of the worst games of the franchise. Why you recommend that shit?
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>>154950678
Banner odds are 30%, when there are several characters on a banner the odds for each will be lowered like that.

Hell, those odds aren't even bad.
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>>154950763
this desu
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>>154950824
Reddit survey places banner odds at 25% this time around.
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>>154950763
7 is fine, it's just not a masterpiece.
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>>154950678
They're 4* base units what did you expect?
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>>154950901
when compared to the games around it, IV-IX it is the bad one
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>>154951097
8 is the bad one lol
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>>154950763
He mentioned Cloud, 7 is the obvious choice.

>>154951097
VI and VII are the weakest of those games, but they're still worth a play.
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Is this argument going to be the VI shitshow all over again?
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>>154948436
Nice bait retard.

>>>/swamp/
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>>154946750
You don't understand how GBA colors work.
If they made them the same saturation and brightness, it would be too dark on the actual handheld.

The GBA's screen was funky shit. ALL GBA games suffer from this.

So on an actual GBA, it looks IDENTICAL. Most emulators have filters that allow you to simulate this on actual monitors too, so you miss out on literally NOTHING.
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>>154950763

It's probably about mid-tier. But let's not get into rankings, those are completely overdone. It's a fact that the majority of FF fans started with 7. Seems logical to recommend it for an FF Virgin.

>>154951097

7 > 8, this is known.

>inb4 "le 8 is misunderstood" maymay
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>>154951097
Some people starting out now can't stand playing 2-D sprite based games. The other PS1 games have also aged pretty badly since the 3-D models were pretty primitive at the time. 7 has been "Babby's first FF" for years now, so it's a proven good starter game even with it's failings.
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>>154951286
I only mentioned Cloud because that name is literally the only thing I know about the entire final fantasy franchise.
If there's a better game to play first that doesn't include Cloud, I'd be fine with that.
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>>154951097
IV is overrated as fuck desu.

>>154951363
>If they made them the same saturation and brightness, it would be too dark on the actual handheld
I remember shit like that early Castlevania which came out before they realized they needed to brighten the colors. Shit was almost impossible to see.
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>>154950206
Look up some videos/screens and play whatever mainline FF that appeals to you the most. You can start with any of them.
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>>154951363
I remember thinking the GBA Castlevania games looked awful too.
Turn down the shaders a notch and they're just fine.
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>all these people blowing their loads over the color of pixels
brb going to call my parents and thank them that they had me while their genes were perfect to pass on while they were in their 20s
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>>154951613
This is probably a good idea, since the opinions on the games vary so widely depending on when you started. You really have to decide what your graphical tolerance is, and if the gameplay looks interesting.
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>>154951415
>It's a fact that the majority of FF fans started with 7.
It's not. The series has sold over 110 million copies and according to SE's data, most people played two or three FFs tops. People have been coming and going, and although way more people started with VII than with any of its predecessors, things get considerably less clear after that.
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>>154951286
>VI and VII are the weakest of those games
>VI
>VI
>VI
b-b-b-bu-bu-brain damage
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>>154951495
>The other PS1 games have also aged pretty badly
IX still looks fine.

>>154951526
Well, do you prefer 3D or sprites (or just don't care)?
Do you prefer high fantasy, steampunk, etc as a world theme?
Do you like a serious plot, a more comedic plot, etc?
There's a lot of factors in helping someone decide on their first FF. What this guy said is a good idea too: >>154951613
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>>154952143
Please don't start this shit again, it's only been a day. Ignore it.
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Is Crystal Chronicles a good first FF game?
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>>154951572
>>154951780
Oh god you're bringing back nightmares of having to tilt the screen back and forth and use a worm light just to see one quarter of the screen.

But the saturation thing was a serious problem. Here's an early frontlit model of SP compared to a later backlit model (both full brightness).

Thank god emulators exist and let you tweak things to a Goldilocks territory.
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>>154952169
fine, someone post the flowchart to end this discussion
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>>154952412
It's not a good FF game period.
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>>154952517
inb4 the Xfag posts his biased chart
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>>154952412
It's nothing like FF so not really it's a good game though

>>154952543
Eat a dick
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>>154952143
Go away.

>>154952412
It's a good game, but doesn't really give a good idea of the series due to how unique it is. Similar to Tactics in this regard.

>>154952517
>Actual discussion
>Hey, let's just post an opinionated chart because fuck actually discussing things!
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>>154951415

>let's not get into rankings, those are completely overdone

TOO LATE MOTHERFUCKER

IX > V > XII > VI > IV > I > VII > X > III > II > VIII >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>> XIII
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>>154952673
How is it good? The combat is boring as shit on single player and you're a very good goy if you actually managed to play it multiplayer.
It had potential and some of the things in it were neat, but it just sucked to play. It was a struggle for me to finish it.
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Oh fucking christ, have mercy
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>>154952961
1. cast reflect on party member
2. cast reflect on sanctuary keeper
3. cast slow on reflected party member
slow bounces off reflected member, hits keeper, inflicts slow. Sanctuary Keeper casts haste on self, reflects off onto party member.
You can poison him in the same way for decent damage.
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>>154952816
VI > IV > Tactics (yes I'm including it cause it was great) > IX > VIII > V> X > VII > I > III >>>>>>>>> II

Can't rank XII or XIII cause I have no interst in playing them
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>>154952816
>>154953298
Go away.
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>>154953242
>I cast Bio
>He uses Esuna
>Do the reflect shenanigans
>He instantly uses haste after the slow lands

This guy is a fucking asshole
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>>154953736
Gotta have reflect on him so he can't haste or esuna, buddy.
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stupid question, but in BE when you see the green numbers with the up arrow what does that mean? Is that equipment? Or is it abilities?
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>>154953843
Both. Also espers.

It's the amount added on top of the character's base stat.
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>>154953816
That's the thing, he HAS reflect and so did the party member, didn't stop him from applying esuna and haste to himself.
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>Feel really satisfied where I am in BE
>Feel the exact opposite in RK
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>>154954790
Nice, maybe you should make some extra spicy rice today Anon.
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I'm gonna do 2 x11 pulls for Celes's BSB and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
Then i'm going to bitch at the game in the thread cause it didn't give it to me.
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People keep telling me to replace Anzelm with Garland or Krile, but they're both only 3* and he heals all my status ailments. What do?

Focus on awakening them?

Opinions on anyone else I should swap out?
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>>154956089
>Focus on awakening them?
Well, yeah. I'd replace Anselm and Vivi with Garland and Krile.
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>>154956494
Why Vivi? Isn't he supposed to be relatively good?
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>>154956089
>>154956607
Krile is oddly enough a straight upgrade to Vivi in every way, and Garland is one of the best attackers in the game.

Vivi has, technically, the highest damage output of any unit in the game. But unless you're a whale he'll never reach that potential, and he has the endurance of a wet tissue.

Krile can match his damage output for 99% of players, in addition to providing the best heals in the game and some very useful utilitiy spells.
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>>154956607
He's alright for a 4*, but I prefer the extra stuff that Krile can do.
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>>154956816
Noted, thanks for not sending me to just look up character rankings. Good to hear people's actual opinions for once.
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>>154956895
The character rankings actually have reasoning displayed for the characters though, so it's not a bad thing to check out anyway.
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Oh fuck man, she IS really going to die doing it ain't she? God fucking damnit, all those stories and goodbyes to everyone, my heart can only take so much.

And to think such a broken child is about to leave a huge mark in history. She is a pretty good character, teenager drama aside.
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>>154956816
>Vivi has, technically, the highest damage output of any unit in the game
Dual-wielding Chizuru begs to differ, but the amount of people with dual-wielding on global at the moment probably don't reach triple digits.
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>>154957027
>>154956895
The person who maintains the global rankings is very biased though, but that's mostly just nitpicking between the SSS tier units.

Like, for some reason Krile doesn't even rank in the top five healers despite technically having the strongest healing output per turn.
Or how Bartz and CoD are ranked the same despite one having objectively better damage output.

Plus a bunch of little things.
It's nice for absolute beginners, but it IS run by ledditors after all.
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>>154957385
Can't a whaled Fencer beat Chizuru because of her extra +ATK skill with Enhancer?
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>>154957373
>She is a pretty good character, teenager drama aside.
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>>154955326
So I'm guessing you got it?
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>>154947946
I'm in the same spot, but with CoD instead of Chizuru. Can't decide if replacing Kefka is even a good idea.
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>>154956607

Vivi
>double cast black magic
>stuck at 4*

Krile
>double cast any magic
>gets a 5* buff later
>can do off healing with cura if needed

Vivi has higher MAG but that's mostly due to Krile being unable to equip rods
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>>154957516
If she has Barrage as TM, yes. Especially if you get this next event sword to dual wield with Enhancer.
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>>154957682
Don't get me wrong, X could have done just fine without the romance but I think the romance humanizes her a little more. So she's not just a nuke to nuke a whale, I think it's fitting enough to be there but I can see why people would dislike it for sure.
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>>154957825
Not to mention Krile gets a +50% MAG boost when using staves at 5*, so she'll have higher MAG at that point too.
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>>154957892
>Especially if you get this next event sword to dual wield with Enhancer
Nah, you're supposed to combine her Sword +ATK skill with Blade Mastery and have her dual wield Enhancer and Sakurafubuki for maximum strong.
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>NRG has a cap
I wasted like two 30-NRG gifts before I realized I wasn't getting any more.
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>didn't pull Fencer
>pulled Thief
>should be happy with it since I didn't have any other thieves except whoever I stuck Steal on, he outdamages the unit he replaced (Lasswell), and he has Great Value(tm) Barrage
>still bitter since Fencer is inarguably better

I didn't think it was possible to struggle with post-purchase rationalization in a f2p game. Hopefully I pull CoD or the wonderful WoL in the upcoming dailies. Triple Barrage with Tellah/Lenna is just not fair for the content in this game.
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>>154959134
>when I leave the screen it drops me down to 217 NRG
I think it gave me the gifts back that I wasted too, but I'm not sure. That's be kinda neat if it was true.
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>>154957385
I meant highest magic output, but yeah. I don't think he'd come anywhere close to whale Chizuru for actual fights.

Let's test it out. Vivi with Firaga, two gravy rods, and MAG+30% hitting an enemy with -50% Fire Weakness and 7 Spr (Belmodar).

He can hit a maximum MAG of 297 if you're a whale. With dual Firaga that's
>(88209/7)*3.6*1.5*16 =1,088,726
>low range = 979,854
>high range = 1,197,599

So he can hit ~1,000,000 damage in one turn in the most favorable scenario.
That is ********technically********* the best damage output we have right now, although I'm not 100% sure if a whaled kefka's hyperdrive could beat it.
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Pulled 6 times. I got 2 more chizurus.
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>>154916006
So I ordered FFExplorers, what should I expect? What jobs are there? All the information is in gook when I look up the game (wtf)
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It felt so good destroying the fuck out of the red dragon in the current Celes event. I spent 3 mythril trying to beat it when it was the hardest boss in the original event.
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>>154960072
Expect mediocrity. It was panned universally here. Multiplayer lasted about a month.
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>>154960072
Should've grabbed Monster Hunter instead, Explorers is boring as shit.
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>>154960261
Gen and 4u were fucking terrible.
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Fuck, 10 draws and I haven't even gotten anyone on the banner yet.
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>>154959504
Fuck you
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>>154960376
Should have drew last night. I'm pretty sure literally everyone in the thread got cloud of darkness last night. It was fucking insanity.
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>>154947334
>>154944435
Speaking of which, if simply staying in contact with the crystal gives them crystal cancer, then Ardyn's way of forcing Noctis' ascension must be the most unpleasant power up in FF history.
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>>154960376
Make that 14 draws, damn my gacha luck.
Just got one of those soul-crushing 4* Bediles, so I think I'm done for now.
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>>154959479
...and it can't beat him.

A whaled Kefka gets 429 MAG (holy shit) with 3 MAG+30%s and dual Gravy Rods.

Hyperdrive has an effective modifier of 3.0666x when you account for the SPR mitigation. (It's complicated, but mitigation is just a weird way to write the multiplayer in this game)

So that gives us
>(184041/7)*3.066*18=1,451,295
>low range = 1,306,165
>high range = 1,596,424

So around 1.4 MILLION damage in a turn.

TL;DR - Whale Kefka can deal the highest damage in the game against a very early game boss that will never matter ever.
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>>154960597
Is dual Gravity Rods better than another MAG +30%?
You forgot to add in Focus.
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>>154960358
>4u
>terrible

just fuck off.
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>>154960358
Haven't played Gen enough to get a good impression on it, but 4U was fucking great.
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>>154959324
Thief really isn't that bad. He's the worst on the CD banner and his TM sucks, but his attack is 113 and he can use Enhancer with his 3x attack skill. He's not Chizuru or Fencer but he'll do very well for a while.

Plus his LB is kinda clutch.
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>>154960597
>Whale Kefka can deal the highest damage in the game against a very early game boss that will never matter ever
>putting it like that about Kefka
>but not about Vivi when also using the same enemy
Your bias is showing.
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>>154961026
>He's the worst on the CD banner
I thought that would be Juggler.
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>>154961026
the thing is I would have loved to see how much damage one could do with Manastrike + Cheer + Dual Barrage (I'm running Chizuzu and Artemios)

Mercy Stroke's -30% attack is nice but I would have preferred -30% defense for my barrage users, especially since I have no breakers.
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>>154961195
You know, his TM kind of puts him ahead in my mind, but honestly it's a wash.
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>>154961234
Yeah, that would have definitely been preferred over ATK down. I like his Steal abilities (Aura, Time) but I don't think there's any real use for them. He's got double steal rate too which is a nice bonus.

I'm maxing him because none of my physical attackers can use Enhancer, and he'll do just fine until I pull a Bartz or something.
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>>154961463
Yeah, that's basically what I'm doing, and why I'm dreading any other pulls from the banner except WoL.

Also I've been meaning to ask, do buffs stack (e.g. Nonpareil and Cheer)?
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>>154960261
>>154960198
Like they shut off online already?
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>>154961874
No one plays it is what they mean.
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>>154960358
shit taste desu
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New commercial for Record Keeper is out in Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0ErPmWDpAw&feature=youtu.be

Really funny
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>>154961865
No, but the lesser one doesn't get overwrite.
Say you use Cheer on Garland, Cheer higher def buff will take priority but after it ends, Garland's Auto Protect def buff will kicks in again.
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Is rerolling in Exvius a thing, or do I just play and hate everything?
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>>154962185
If you already hate everything about it better to just not bother desu.
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>>154962185
https://exviuswiki.com/How_to_reroll
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>>154960470
I got three Clouds of Darkness and Lenna. I already had one CoD. I could run a 4 CoD/Lenna party for Cheer + Barrage spam.
I really wanted Warrior of Light, but Lenna helps a lot anyway, at least until Krile gets 5* form.
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>>154962023
Damn wtf? Its not been out for a year yet. It's fine though the online is sidestuff I prefer solo. Is the world big enough to immerse yourself into it? The whole crystals stuff looks (rehashed)
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>>154962136
"How to become a social outcast in 30 seconds"

>>154962185
It's not totally necessary most of the time unless you really want to minmax. But you probably do want to start off with a character or two that you are going to want to invest time in. If you were going to do it, this banner is probably a good time.
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>>154962164
Thanks.
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>>154962396
>Is the world big enough to immerse yourself into it?
No. The game is seriously not good overall. It's not the worst thing in the world but it's not very fun either.
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>Fencer sprite actually has jiggling boobs
On that note, I really hope she'll get a 6* down the line. Like, she's the only good Viera in the game and stuck at 5* is just not fair.
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If I have no breaker and no thief, Duane or Thief?

I know Duane isn't -technically- a Dark Knight, but I like his sprite
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>>154962914
The game forgets she exists after the banner ends, so don't count on it.
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>>154962952
Duane can do Break more than just for attack but he has nothing going other than that. Thief I'd say.
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>>154963042
B-but Terra and Kefka got their 6* one year into the game. So it's still possible, r-right?
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>>154963347
No, I mean the Fencer is literally gone now. You can't ever get her or the other two characters in the gacha now that the banner has ended. They were limited-time characters and the game will promptly ignore them now that that limited time is over.

Abandon all hope, anon.
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>>154963524
Speaking of which, are there any other limited time characters? I heard DQ or whatever also had a collab with BE, are they also limited time?
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Logged in, six rolls. Dupe Bedile. How'd I do?
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>>154963853
>six rolls
>post 5
nigga wat
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>>154963753
Pretty much every collab is limited. Mana, DQ, Crystal Defenders, and BF (though BF characters have returned).
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>>154963853
Perhaps the worst roll in the history of the game, if Lenna were replaced with Penelo. But Lenna is good as a support unit.
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>>154963945
Second Spellblade, anon.
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>>154963853
Lenna is god tier support, the rest are meh, Edgar might serve a slot as a physical attacker if your team doesn't have anything better.
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>>154963853
Edgar and lenna are decent. But Shadow is fucking trash. I hate it because he's one of my favorties
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>>154963853
Lenna is great, Edgar's tm is alright, rest is trash.
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>>154960752
Dual Gravity rods is exactly one point of MAG better on Kefka, depending on how many other fractional MAG points you have.
At best, they're equal, and at worst MAG+30% is worse.

But with focus keffers would average
2,844,475 damage a turn.
Add in a maximum elemental chain and that's 19,911,331 damage a turn. Max out the physical chain too and you get a whopping 39,822,662 damage per turn.

For vivi it would be 2,133,952 damage with focus, 6,401,856 with max elemental chain, and 12,803,712 with max physical chain too.

There's got to be a legitimate strategy using multiple Coral Sword Edgars and Kefka/Vivi as the all powerful nuke at the end. I'm sure you could one shot any boss if you got the timing right.

Obviously these numbers are extreme due to the fact that it's fucking belmodar, but even as SPR goes up you could still 1hit kill just about anything.

>>154961048
That was part two of the post, it was a conclusion for everything. No matter what the answer was, I would've called them shit.

But yeah no seriously fuck that hobgoblin kefka and his ugly sprite. UGLY.
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>>154964124
Yeah, I can't wait until I pick up a second mage to replace Kefka. I've already got a treeman, at least.
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What is the best way to grind trust in exivus?
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>>154964405
macro earth shrine entrance/exit
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>>154964405
Earth Shrine exit with a macro and 37 days of not caring about the game.

Exit is best because you can LB farm at a slow rate too.
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>tfw your 3D waifu is shilling FFXV
g-good thing i didn't c-cancel my preorder huh?
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>>154964602
>3D
>waifu
Kek
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>>154961195
Juggler better than Theif becasu of his utility.
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>>154964519
>>154964550
Hold the fuck up. you can macro the LB too?
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>>154965238
There's an option to make Auto-battle use limits.
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>>154965238
We have auto LB now, so you don't need to do anything fancy to macro LB anymore.

I just got my gold LB trophy today and had Bartz and Exdeath level up for the first time.
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>still no Killer Bow

I want my Artemios to SHINE
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>>154965393
And I'd like you to stop being gay but, well..
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>>154965504
yeah well
your favorite FF is shit
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>>154965393
I think it's added along with the Diabolos eidolon, either that or shortly before that
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I want to kill myself. Just used a ticket and got a gold crystal and started praying for chizuru. It turns into a fucking rainbow and pops a 5* WOL but I already have a fucking 5* WOL.

FUCKING WHY GAME. some loser here needs him not me.
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Maria's Song BSB is so fucking good even as a RW. RW Shout is utter shit to me now.
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>>154965570
Gumi GL has proven that they suck at giving us content on time.

They're "trying to catch up" by delaying the trials unitl months after they should be.
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>>154965587
>bitching about having good luck
Enjoy never getting a rainbow crystal again faggot
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>>154965570
speaking of, why did they add another mage esper
granted it's better than Siren even on non-mages, but still
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>>154965795
FUCK you faggot im f2p. Every ticket counts and I want that stupid cunt for my barrage team. Also I need that stupid fuck boy Bart.
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>>154965931
Everyone here is f2p retard. I'm calling you a faggot for coming here to bitch about getting a rainbow crystal.
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>>154965839
What, we're only allowed to have one?
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>>154965931
>Caring about a shitty mom who's going to slowly phase out over the next few months
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>>154966082
>get a useless dup
>stop complaining!!!!!

ok I guess
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>>154965931
You'll get plenty of chances to get Barrage, hell, Delita learns it and he's in the first batch of FFT units
>>154966212
You do realize that Chizuru is one of the top characters to this day in JP, right?
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>>154964602

lightning-sama~
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>>154962375
fucking do it

dark clouds accumulating

torrential titty storm expected

green front moving in
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>>154966539

i have a hard rule about not sticking my dick in anything green
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>>154966336
>butts

every time
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>>154965931
if every ticket counts you should be saving them for the last day of the banner, after you've done all the 1/2 lapis pulls
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>>154966336
Chizuru's good, but power creep happens so rapidly among physical attackers that she's no longer top tier.
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>>154966636
good news
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>>154966721
Ok, and? She's still rated at 91, the best characters are at 98, if you already have Chizuru you are pretty much set for months and then she'll become relevant again when she gets her 6*, same applies to a lot of units we already have like WoL, Cecil, Exdeath and CoD
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>>154966889
Dissidia CoD a shit
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>>154966889
>dissidia cloud of darkness

literal trash
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>>154925894
Been playing since release and got pic related from about a week ago.
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>>154966921
>She's still rated at 91
I thought it's 93, the same as Garland.
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>>154966935
>>154966968
whatever you say friendos
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>>154966712
You are right. I honestly feel like an animal pulling once. I don't even think Ill use another ticket because I def want that lightning pussy.
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>>154925894
My one and only rainbow roll was Duane at the start of my current account.
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>>154967095

painted whore
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>>154967197
you love it

think about those tentacle mouths
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>>154967339

you know who else is a painted whore i'm loving
your mom
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>>154967095
Amano needs to get a clue that some of his shit is awful
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>>154967468
That's not even Amano art
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>>154967423
d-dad?

wow, i never thought i-i would ever meet my dad, not to say that we'll even meet here, on a silly imageboard. w-wait a sec okay? ill call mom to verify if you really are my dad. please reply with an email and a name, please
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>>154967423
sick burn mon frere
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I would fuck CoD. Or more accurately, I'd let her fuck me.
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>>154968116

you'd let anyone fuck you
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>>154965393
My daddy Firion needs it too
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>>154968163
>>154968116
she'd probably let you go first though
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>>154968558

it's an it
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>>154967068
The altema ratings are weird anyway, they're always based partially on maximum potential.

So a lot of units that are actually better than others without TMs are rated lower for no good reason. Even when it isn't reasonable to assume you have shit like dual wield.

Plus the scale among 6* units goes from like 85 to 100. So it's hard to convey just how much better units are.
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>>154968585
a mouth's a mouth nigga
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>>154968685
>Plus the scale among 6* units goes from like 85 to 100
Well yeah, they're all 6* units. The stats alone that 6*s get pretty much ensure that they won't be outright bad.
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>>154968585
>takes a female form in III
>literally a woman in dissidia

Yeah right. She's a woman, like a WOMAN.
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>>154968814
You need to rethink this statement.
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>>154968685
>Plus the scale among 6* units goes from like 85 to 100
Because even the worst 6* will always have better stats than even the best 5*, not to mention more skills selection. It's not hard to understand why their ratings will always be higher.
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>>154968237
Is it worth it tho? I mean it means no shield.

Though I guess Firion is more offensive oriented than WoL and he can afford no shield.
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>>154969134
butthole still good baby
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>>154967095
the fog is thicc today
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>>154966935
she always looked like that tho
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Should I bother with the colosseum in Exvius if I'm stuck at Europa for now? The other S-rank stuff would be easy to clear, but I'm not sure the magicite reward would be worth it.

>>154969518
The lower mouth isn't any safer in this case.
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>>154969896
i dunno man

we've all been there
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>>154968116
>her
DID YOU JUST ASSUME ITS GENDER
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>>154969896
>magicite reward
?

You mean Lapis? And it's 500 Lapis when you beat the last tier of that difficulty for S-rank, so that means 2500 Lapis.
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>>154969896
You should uninstall if stuck on europa
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>>154969485
Def is very unimportant past a certain threshold. There are diminishing returns.

Even the maximum def you'd get from the best shield right now won't protect you from much.
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Maybe I should pull on the X banners coming up, I don't have any X synergy so anything would be a plus
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What's a good final fantasy to play while drinking?
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>>154971740
You should at minimum have 2 celebration daggers and 2 celebration rods that were given for free.
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>>154970828
Fuck yourself
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>>154971776
X or XIII so you only have to run in a straight line
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>>154971884
Ok just to be clear i'm talking about RK, and I have no idea what those are
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>>154971776
Me and two of my friends made a game of playing FFXII IZJS "together", and it was a hell of a good time. We regularly drank while playing through it.
Basically, we each called dibs on two characters, and individually picked their jobs, gambits, licenses, and decided which one of our guys was in the party at the moment.

Getting drunk individually, I'd say FFX and drink every time Tidus complains or makes an ass of himself.
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>>154970389
I was just going by what I saw on a chart for repeating a beginner S-rank round, but maybe I read it wrong.

>>154970828
It doesn't look terrible, but since I am in the middle of awakening several people, my party is mid-20s to low-50s.

>>154972098
He means stuff that was given out free for events, so you must be fairly new if you don't have them.
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>>154972098
So am I. Sorry, they're called "Celebration Blade" and "Royal Scepter"
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>>154972263
Ok, I have the Royal Sceptre, but I dont have anything else
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>>154972098
Also, it's not so much that the banners itself are bad, but we should be getting guaranteed 5* on 11x pulls by next month when Cloud's overflow soul break hits. So while it might not be bad to pull a couple times if you want to, try to save some mythril for that.
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Is it still impossible to get Earth Keys 8 and 21? they're for Paladin Armor and the recipe for Hyper
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...When is there a FFX event? We're just now getting FFVI
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>>154972257

Use the cactuar dunes event to level your units to max. Then craft and equip any unit with barthundara. If you have CoD, protectga helps as well.

If you want to cheese it, just stack 4 units that can cast thunder spells and a tank like leo/cecil with provoke.
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>>154972610
Plus there's another FFX event not long after G5 hits.
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>>154973674
Yeah, thanks. I should be alright once I can get back to a decent level.

>>154973665
Just look up an event schedule if you want to see dates. The FFX one he is talking about is the X-2 event that hits on the 21st.
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>>154973665
Theres an X event next week, we get Paine, Rikku's X2 design as a wardrobe record and another chance at Yuna's X2 wardrobe record
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Can I stop?
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>>154974559
No, get a CoD or Chizuru, then you're done.
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>>154974559
This meme never caught on but now I get to post it.
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Thinking back on this, I love Junon's cannon. It's such a horrible waste of money and resources, but damn is it glorious.
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>>154974559
Yes. Exdeath, WoL, and Lenna are top tier. (WoL and Exdeath will remain top tier. Lenna will remain usable.) With Lasswell to hold the damage over, you'll surely roll something else usable to have a gold team.
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Who /costadelsol/ here?
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>>154974559
Yeah, that's good enough.
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>>154974856
I really liked the music in Junon, but I never see it mentioned.
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>>154974741
It'll never ever catch on. Kill yourself.
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>>154975167
2* bait senpai
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>>154975258
Is recommending suicide bait now? It seems sincere to me. Usually bait is reddit-tier memes like that image.
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trying to farm a no encounter armor from Ghosts in the arena in FFX, is that 6% drop rate that people say a 6% chance IF a piece of equipment actually drops for it to be no encounter? I've killed him enough times to be down 50k gil now and still don't have jack shit
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>>154975592
fishing for (you)s is bait. This one's on the house.
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What should be my A team? I'm planning on changing Rain for WoL and CoD for Golbez, but I'm not sure about the rest. Please help.

Also I'm hopping to pull Lenna tomorrow to change Fina
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>>154975701
6% if he drops something
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>>154975867
WoL, CoD, either Firion or Lasswell, either Terra or Golbez, either Krile or Fina.
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>>154975867
wol, cod, bartz, artemios, fina
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327th eternal reminder that Terra is best girl
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About to hit level 80 on my ExDeath.

I love this guy, Graviga? GraviGOD.
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Did XV release get pushed back a few months? I could have sworn it was a September release?
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>>154979324
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>>154979324
End of November now.
Just in time for a PS4 Pro :^)
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>esc key acts like back key for nox
wow im retarded
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>>154925894

My 3rd pull was ExDeath***** my crystal descended as a blue, shattered, turned into gold, shattered, and then Rainbow.

I'm not complaining if it was a glitch or not, because this bastard pulled me through nearly the very beginning of the game to where I am now.

He's about to max out in level now, stuffing his butthole with Gigantuars.
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>>154979570
just as long as it ain't 600 bucks.
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>>154980146
$400. It has a better processor and supports larger resolutions. That's it.
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>>154980115
>I'm not complaining if it was a glitch or not
It's not a glitch, it's a rare occurrence (gimmick) intended to make people wait expectantly every time they break a blue crystal thenceforth.
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>>154979461
I can honestly say I haven't been following it.
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>five more hours until another 250 pull
can't wait to hope for something useful but pull another Sabin instead
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>a fucking harp has the most MAG bonus

FUCKING WHY
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>>154974856
It made for hilariously arrogant marketing too.
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Brotherhood 5 is being streamed in a few minutes on the Twitch TGS stream.
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>>154982245
But SE made cartridge games....
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>>154982448
They had switched to CDs by then.
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>>154923770

You don't get Shadow's dreams if you let him die though, and Relm needs a daddy, otherwise Edgar will be her sugar daddy.
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>>154982245
I don't know if the kids in /ffg/ can even imagine the levels of excitement that were there for a 3D final fantasy game back in 1996.
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>>154982721
You can watch shadow's dreams with him in your party elsewhere.

>>154923770
>>154982721
Shadow becomes irrelevant in the world of ruin. And his ending blows hard if you save him.
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>>154982439
twitch tv/twitch
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>>154982448
Like the other guy said, but they had just switched to making PS1 games from making SNES games. So it's probably just trying to be snarky since the PS1 was competing with the N64 at the time.

>>154982743
People were excited, but it was a different kind of thing since there was no internet to get a ton of information from. So you only saw the parts of the game that they wanted to show you, and wouldn't have the problems exposed like you see currently with FFXV.
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>>154974856
>not having a giant cannon to shoot the ocean
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For those of you who remember FF1 PSP, what is the max number of Hits someone can do without haste?

my entire party minus white mage seems to cap out at 8 hits
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>>154974856
... Why DID they build that? no seriously. It came in great use... kinda, when Weapons woke up and Northern Crater sealed away. but they had no idea that happen. They were already the dominant military force. no country wasa t war with them anymore, and any other country wouldnt be able to fight off even jsut their army anyways.

Was this thing literally built as a plot devide just to be Checkovs Big Fucking Gun?
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>Noctis fucking decapitated Marilith after cutting off her arms
We Mortal Combat now. Also, the woman who died in the attack confirmed to be his servant.
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>>154984173
We already know blasts from the Sister Ray can reach across the planet. Presumably the cannon can be precisely aimed or the mako cannon shots curve in some manner, so that it can obliterate targets at long range. Essentially, it's a superweapon that threatens half the planet.
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>>154984507
Half the planet? They are half the planet and owned half of the other half. We have a clear view of the world and its people throughout the game. who provoked that kind of force from Shinra? The canyon People? the archeologist?
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>>154984664
The overblown weapons R&D budget. They made a fucking giant robot for no raisin. (Several, in fact, but the Proudclad stands out.)
I bet the Sister Ray was an excuse project since they built the Underwater Reactor as part of the Huge Materia initiative, and needed something for that mako reactor to power.
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>>154984917
sigh... its like Shinra just wanted to the bad guy. never noticed how shoddy of writing Shinra's existence was until now.
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>>154984173
Shinra must have been really lucky that Sapphire decided to run straight at the cannon, because the way Sister Ray is constructed doesn't allow it to aim.
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>>154985117
Having deterrence isn't being the bad guy.

Plenty of countries build nukes all day and they're not the bad guy. Even in times of peace, the military always focuses on R&D and building bigger guns.
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>>154951286
>VI and VII are the weakest of those games
>VI

>>154950206

Final Fantasy Tactics, Vagrant Story, then FF12 HD.
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>>154985117
I mean Rufus Shinra explicitly wanted to rule the world through iron-fisted terror.
President Shinra proper just cut fat paychecks to anyone loyal to him. Being the richest man on the planet clearly has perks.
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>>154985474
>Replying to a 7 hour old post
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>>154985434
Overblown deterrence is useful if you actually have something you could use those big guns on. In Shinra's case, all their enemies were more into guerrilla warfare, so having a huge unwieldy canon is rather pointless.
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>>154984173
It's aimed at Wutai.
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>>154985993
Do you know how much of the R&D budget governments spend on shit that never amounts to anything actually useful in combat?

Off the top of my head I can think of the Davy Crockett, flying aircraft carriers, all kinds of experimental bullshit.

There was also this 4 BILLION dollar chunk of garbage shit out by the French government a few years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_aircraft_carrier_Charles_de_Gaulle
They have since sunk like 22 BILLION dollars into this hunk of nuclear garbage, even though it's peacetime and is ultimately useless.

Are the French government cartoon villains?

And governments do shit like that all the time. Don't forget the INS Pahjeet ($2.35 billion)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INS_Vikramaditya

Or any fucking number of military endeavors. Name one country and you'll find a bunch of wasted money on useless firepower.
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>>154986918
>calling aircraft carriers useless
I mean they're basically floating military bases that can be steered 'round the planet.
Of course nobody "needs" them since the USA is fighting sand rats and no real wars are scheduled for the rest of ever, but who knows what may happen.
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>>154986918
I wasn't the guy who talked about cartoon villains, but aircraft carriers are generally considered to be quite crucial and are routinely used in military operations. The Sister Ray, on the other hand, doesn't seem to serve any purpose whatsoever. It's been around since the Wutai War, yet nobody ever mentions it was even meant to play any role there. The VII world also has like three cities in total and two of them have always been Shinra's. There are also no other rival armies or organized structures to fight, so once again, a nuke canon is useless.
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>>154986918
This is a bad place for this, but giant projects like that that are public are more about making people feel safe than actually making them safe. Not really because the general public is stupid, but it's easier to understand a giant hunk of floating metal looking like it might be able to do something than figuring out whether the army can respond to any specific threat. That kind of thing is even less useful when it costs so much that you don't want to risk putting it into actual combat, like some of Japan's monstrosities in their Navy in WWII.

Back to the Final Fantasy part, the giant shit Shinra owns would be intimidating to a normal person. I guess it's kind of like nuclear weapons. They are good for scaring the opposition. But while they are strong, if you have to use them you're fucked.
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>>154986918
>>154987496
>>154987919
>>154987990

Guys, It's aimed at Wutai. It shoots shells really fucking far.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMsvtKG6Sgw

AHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>154987496
>>154987919
>>154987990
The Charles De Gaulle is notoriously useless, especially for the French government. It's the blunder of the century for them.

It's broken down like 50 times during development and gone past budget like 80 times over. Every year they have to go back in and fix its sorry, outdated ass and pour more money into it.

It's seen basically no use in actual combat, and probably never will. It's supposed to be the heart of their navy, but it just sits in a shipyard 99% of the time.
France didn't even need to make a fancy nuclear aircraft carrier. They couldn't afford to make it properly, so it just ended up being a floating pile of wasted money.

A regular aircraft carrier is a useful commodity. That piece of garbage is hilarious.
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Does Maria's song stack with shout?
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>>154988506
Shout is ATK only while Maria's Song is ATK and MAG, so they do stack.
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>Watching XV Brotherhood
>I now like all of the main XV cast EXCEPT Noctis

Seriously, Noctis is a lazy douche and I hope he gets his shit wrecked in the main game. Everyone else are total bros.
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>>154988078
It feels like they were trying to go too hard for something cool, and forgot what the character model looked like.

>>154988169
Reminded me of the F-35 Lightning II, US Army/Navy's super plane manufactured by Lockheed Martin. Wiki says that in 2014 it was "$163 billion over budget [and] seven years behind schedule". These planes are being sold all over the place now, but last I heard they were working somewhat correctly. But these things have to see actual combat and not just be neat ideas.

>>154988719
Well, but isn't there a cap for how high the buff can go though, even if it does stack?
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>>154988851
Ignis goes blind
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>>154988078
how terrifying
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>>154988876
Once you reach a certain attack value there are diminishing returns.
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>>154988851
>considerate, attentive, and fair towards everyone
>lazy douche
U wot m8.
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>>154988169
True, but that's more about incompetent project management than actual aircraft uselessness. Every country has these blunder of the century projects. Google Berlin Brandenburg Airport if you want to see a truly staggering construction blunder.
>was supposed to open in 2010
>it's still not done
>it won't be done for years
>it's a death trap with literally 150,000 defects
>has cost six billion euro
>even if it opened right now, it's capacity would already make it insufficient for the purpose
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>>154989352
I wish I could draw that cute.
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>>154989352
yoink
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>>154985434
I ask again. What the hell is it deterring? Take a look of the world that isnt directly Shinra. Do you see anything remotely coming close to Shinra's level of power? Second most thigh tech place is a fking Amusement Park.
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>>154990615
And more importantly, the FFVII world doesn't seem to have had any government before Shinra, so there are no leftover power structures to pose any danger either.
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>>154988078

Awww what a widdle grumpy tyke he is! YES HE IS! YES HE IS! A boo boo boooo~!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFplIleCuVg
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>>154990615
They knew ultimate weapon existed and the other weapons.
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>>154990615
Nothing in the current world comes close to threatening the power of France and the EU, but that didn't stop them from blowing all the taxpayers money on a dumb nuclear boat, which was mostly just for show.

They intentionally built a nuclear supercarrier that would be slower and less useful just to say they could do it (and then they couldn't do it)

The military builds shit primarily because it can. Whether or not they should build it is an afterthought. Megaprojects are considered more for their dickwaving potential than their actual use.

It's not bad writing is all I'm saying. It's pretty realistic.
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>>154991008
> Crisis Core retcon shit
They found a single weapon, emerald, with no idea of what it was since they sealed by Cetra millennia ago, and decided to build a giant cannon to fight an underwater monster?

and people wonder why the compilation makes the story shit.
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>>154991539
Jade Weapon activated early if you count Before Crisis.
Between Jade Weapon attacking Shinra forces, Emerald Weapon being discovered beneath Banora, and knowledge of the other Weapons being given to Professor Gast via Ifalna, they had reason to believe that the others may activate and move against them. It's not like they really don't know that mako energy is killing the Planet. They just don't care.
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>>154991632
>>154991632

All I can tell from this photo is bunny booty.
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ded general, ded fantasy
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>>154992315
Well we are waiting till 4 am for the next half pull. Now I just want a full team of CoDs and Lenna.
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>>154991890
Yeah about that...

Ahem;

Weapons are creatures created by the Planet as final fail safe defenses when the world is hurt/in danger. When a threat lurks, they awaken to deal with it and save the planet, albiet in a destructive way with no holds bar on any humans.

Jade Weapon is for some reason awakened by the destruction of a Summoning, Zircon-something, to hunt down the Turks. This is conflicting because Summons come from materia. Materia is crystalized Mako. Mako is a product of using the Lifestream to make energy, which is the part really hated by the world. So why a Weapon wants to destroy those who destroyed a product of the Worlds precious Blood being used makes no sense.

moving on; A Meteor falls to earth threatening it. So the ither Weapons awaken to protectit... by attacking Shinra? and Other places? Why did Jade have a more specific purpose but others dont? oh.. none of them could stop the Meteor if they tried. So theyre just destroying out of hindsight?

but wait! theres an Omnipotent last resort Weapon. Omega Weapon... whose the only one that could stop the Meteor... but wasnt awaken by it... hum.

Again. FF7 Compilation... Just Hang itself.
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>>154992767
In the context of 7 meteor is a black magic materia, no different than other materia in that respect. How did it trigger weapons using your logic?
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>>154992392
>worst coast.
There's a reason these games' clocks are always based on PST.

The games are designed around Best Coast schedule. Go play JP if you want to wake up in the middle of the night for useless shit.
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Fuck the chocibo song is catchy. Is that a vocaloid I'm hearing?
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>>154992886
>chocibo
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>>154992879
Whatever fuckers want to come to FL all the time and I live in the rich area.
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>>154993008
My bad, I chuckled.
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>>154992851
with the giant fiery rock coming down to earth?

point being, how was Turks killing a summoning threatening the world? Jade Weapons goal seemed more kin to revenge, which conflicts their nature. Weapons priority is protection of the planet.
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>>154992851
It wasnt the Materia that awoke Weapons. it was sephiroth using it.
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>>154992767
>Jade Weapon is for some reason awakened by the destruction of a Summoning, Zircon-something, to hunt down the Turks. This is conflicting because Summons come from materia. Materia is crystalized Mako. Mako is a product of using the Lifestream to make energy, which is the part really hated by the world. So why a Weapon wants to destroy those who destroyed a product of the Worlds precious Blood being used makes no sense.
Dude, materia being made of solidified mako does not mean materia cannot be used to harm the Planet. Zirconiade had the power to burn the world, but moreover was ordered by Fuhito to actually burn the world. It wasn't just Zirconiade existing that threatened the world, but the circumstances of its summoning was a hell of a threat to the biosphere.

>moving on; A Meteor falls to earth threatening it. So the ither Weapons awaken to protectit... by attacking Shinra? and Other places? Why did Jade have a more specific purpose but others dont? oh.. none of them could stop the Meteor if they tried. So theyre just destroying out of hindsight?
The Weapons are not intelligent. They are more like gigantic white blood cells that find enemies and attack indiscriminately. Meteor is in the sky. Mako reactors are damaging the planet, so the ones not in the sky attack mako reactors.
The one that was meant to stop Meteor? Probably Jade Weapon, since it patrols the upper skies. Oops, that one's long dead.

>but wait! theres an Omnipotent last resort Weapon. Omega Weapon... whose the only one that could stop the Meteor... but wasnt awaken by it... hum.
Wrong, Omega doesn't stop anything. Omega is a last resort for the planet to say "fuck this shit, I'm out". Meteor hitting the Planet would have invoked Chaos, summoned Omega, and made it peace the fuck out into space.
This was, in fact, Sephiroth's plan, you know. Sephiroth was basically going to eat Omega while it was trying to form. Omega is the entirety of the Lifestream bundled up after all.
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>>154993089
Weapons are dumb. They see threat to planet, they try to kill it. They are not logical, tactical scalpels, they are brutish hammers of ruin.

>>154993256
It wasn't Zirconiade existing that activated Jade Weapon, then, it was Fuhito telling it to scour the planet in hellfire.
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>>154993320
What does lifestream taste like?
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>>154993548
5 mint chewing gum.
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>>154993548
Like godhood, apparently.
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>>154992886
>Is that a vocaloid I'm hearing?
Yeah, I think it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hnzTcbgG6M
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>>154993320

>Dude, materia being made of solidified mako does not mean materia cannot be used to harm the Planet. Zirconiade had the power to burn the world, but moreover was ordered by Fuhito to actually burn the world. It wasn't just Zirconiade existing that threatened the world, but the circumstances of its summoning was a hell of a threat to the biosphere.

But the summoning didn't awaken Jade. Its defeat by the hand of the Turks did.

>The Weapons are not intelligent. They are more like gigantic white blood cells that find enemies and attack indiscriminately. Meteor is in the sky. Mako reactors are damaging the planet, so the ones not in the sky attack mako reactors. The one that was meant to stop Meteor? Probably Jade Weapon, since it patrols the upper skies. Oops, that one's long dead.

But jade Weapon for some reason was able to have a focused purpose to have a sense of intelligence, but all the other ones aren't? what about Ultima Weapon. He could fly, and spent his time flying around trying to blow up random locations. and then why didnt Mako Reactors draining the planet wake them up long before? they only woke up when Sephiroth called down the Meteor.

>Wrong, Omega doesn't stop anything. Omega is a last resort for the planet to say "fuck this shit, I'm out". Meteor hitting the Planet would have invoked Chaos, summoned Omega, and made it peace the fuck out into space.
This was, in fact, Sephiroth's plan, you know. Sephiroth was basically going to eat Omega while it was trying to form. Omega is the entirety of the Lifestream bundled up after all.

And that still wouldn't have called him out? cause he didn't come out. But maybe so thats an interpretation, Sephiroth trying to bring out Omega. I mean, in the entireg ame they didnt mention omega Weapon, utter his name. so maybe teh storys writing was fucked from the beginning by not using the key term to the villains plan once the entire game. but Sephis plan explained is different. so. no.
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>finally decide its time to play FF2 seriously
>pick up the GBA version
>the "leveling" system is bothering me
Do I ever have to grind or can I continue down the path of making whatshisface a jack of all type, the female a monk/healer type and the big dude a melee only type?
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>>154993962
this is how you play;

>Take the game out.
>plays something else.

got all that?
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>>154993962
You'll probably need to grind at a few points. Use shields on everyone, they're good
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>>154993962
try the psp version instead
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>>154993962
His name is RED ROSE
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>>154993926
The game itself says that Weapons just respond if the planet is threatened. Why the reactors' (or more importantly Jenova's) existence didn't bother them before the Sephiroth business is up to anyone's guess.
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>>154993548
>>154993641
>How does it feel to chew 5 gum?
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>>154993926
>But the summoning didn't awaken Jade. Its defeat by the hand of the Turks did.
Actually, the summoning is what awakened it. It just stuck around to bother the Turks.

>But jade Weapon for some reason was able to have a focused purpose to have a sense of intelligence, but all the other ones aren't? what about Ultima Weapon. He could fly, and spent his time flying around trying to blow up random locations
Ultima Weapon patrols the lower skies. Jade Weapon patrols the upper skies. Jade Weapon wasn't particularly intelligent either.

>and then why didnt Mako Reactors draining the planet wake them up long before?
Because it's a slow, wasting death. Weapons weren't made to handle that, but they will anyway once they're awake.

>And that still wouldn't have called him out? cause he didn't come out. But maybe so thats an interpretation, Sephiroth trying to bring out Omega. I mean, in the entireg ame they didnt mention omega Weapon, utter his name.
Omega Weapon would only appear after Meteor hit the Planet, or in other words, once everyone is screwed. Omega Weapon existing at all means the Planet is no longer capable of sustaining life, and is leaving this space-rock dead and empty. Sephiroth's plan is to consume the Lifestream once it all consolidates into one point, which is what the creation of Omega Weapon is.
Nobody wants Omega Weapon to be made, least of all the Planet itself. It is the final recourse. Referring to it is mostly meaningless.
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>>154993548
Like coiny milk and salt
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>>154993641
>>154994298
can't handle the minty freshness
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>>154994319
Jade Weapon is patroller of Upper Skies... and its awakening was to fight some dudes who killed the summoning you claim it was awakened to destroy. these guys, known for traveling on the ground level... Upper Skies... Ground level. what? your descriptions here dont go together well.

JAde Weapon wasnt very intillgent? maybe. but enough to have a goal that others didnt. and if the slow wasting death wasnt enough to call them out, why is it calling them to destroy now they are awaken, despite having no connection to what actually woke them up?

and Sephiroth says his plan is to absorb the Lifestream when it heals the planet. not when the planet is destroyed/ out of the dead planet. I think sephiroth very understandable even he needs a planet to live on otherwise its all pointless. he wanted to rule the planet as the planet.

>>154994225
>Why the reactors' (or more importantly Jenova's) existence didn't bother them before the Sephiroth business is up to anyone's guess.

well youre getting the idea now. shit writing is shit writing.
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>download emulator
>try to play duodecim again
>suddenly recognize Kain's VA.
>it's fucking Yasuo from league
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>>154994814
>Jade Weapon is patroller of Upper Skies... and its awakening was to fight some dudes who killed the summoning you claim it was awakened to destroy. these guys, known for traveling on the ground level... Upper Skies... Ground level. what? your descriptions here dont go together well.
It was awakened for Zirconiade, who fucking flies sky-high. Not hard to grasp. It wasn't meant to fight the Turks, it did anyway.
>JAde Weapon wasnt very intillgent? maybe. but enough to have a goal that others didnt. and if the slow wasting death wasnt enough to call them out, why is it calling them to destroy now they are awaken, despite having no connection to what actually woke them up?
Because they all woke up because the Planet was freaking out and had no real response system in place. The Planet is alive. Did you forget?
The Planet doesn't hate humanity, but the Weapons are autonomous. The Planet doesn't control them like puppets. Once they're up and about, they run on their programming. And for whatever reason, the Planet didn't think the mako reactors were enough of a reason to purge humanity, at least not yet. So the Planet didn't awaken the Weapons yet. But Meteor scared it, and it had no idea how to react.
>and Sephiroth says his plan is to absorb the Lifestream when it heals the planet. not when the planet is destroyed/ out of the dead planet
The planet won't try to heal a wound of that magnitude. Bugenhagen says it would slay the world. It would gather its Lifestream, but only to escape.
>even he needs a planet to live on
Once he was the Lifestream-God he would remake the planet in his own image, he says as much.
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>>154995047
Sephiroth's plans were never really elaborated upon in the original game and frankly didn't make much sense. Meteor actually hitting the Planet would have killed it (since it was already weak), so he wouldn't have anything to rule anyway.
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>>154995047
>only recognizing Liam O'Brien from fucking LoL
Fucking casuals
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>>154995282
Albedo is probably a better and more famous role of his.
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>>154995407
That was Crispin Freeman though.
Also an excellent VA in general, and definitely has the same grasp of a psychotic edge as Liam O'Brien, though.
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So is this Shining Splendor sword another Global only thing or is it actually a shared event for once?
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>>154995092
Why wouldnt it go back to sleep after its purpose died. why does it attack people it has no reason to attack?

You make the planet and its complex odd way of functioning sound really mixed up and confused and stupid just by trying to explain it to fit your point. Planets is alive and Weapons are a part of it. Weapons are used by the planet but not puppets or controlled. they have reasons they wake up, but no reason when they are up. These are meant for this type of location but are also in this other type of location.

It doesnt answer anything, it brings out more questions! If Zircon was a Weapon level threat, why did only one wake up instead of all like Meteor did? Why Did Meteor wake up all of them if none of them could do anything about Meteor? Oh, heres a good question. Sephiroth is the one who awakened MEteors by using Meteor. So if this is like Zircon, why did no weapons try and kill Sephiroth?

No, they definitely say When it Heals the planet. case and point... The earth wasnt destroyed, and the lifestream didn't leave. people forget, the heroes didnt really do anything to save the planet. their big plan was just beat sephiroth, wait and hope for the best since they didnt know jack about whats gonna happen. Planet saved itself. it healed itself. if the lifestream was just gonna up and leave like Sephiroth planned, the Meteor would of hit as planned and it would of left.
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>>154995772
Land of Plenty? Global only.
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>>154995846
>Why wouldnt it go back to sleep after its purpose died. why does it attack people it has no reason to attack?
Weapons are DUMB. They are basically rudimentary robots that scan for "threat to planet" and respond with "mindless aggression". It basically saw the Turks killed Zirconiade and interpreted the Turks as a possible threat, so it attacked them.
>You make the planet and its complex odd way of functioning sound really mixed up and confused and stupid just by trying to explain it to fit your point. Planets is alive and Weapons are a part of it. Weapons are used by the planet but not puppets or controlled. they have reasons they wake up, but no reason when they are up. These are meant for this type of location but are also in this other type of location.
There are 6 of them for 6 zones of the planet. They aren't "locked in" to those zones but they operate best there (after all Diamond Weapon is seen briefly in Sapphire Weapon's domain, the surface of the sea). They need a reason to be activated by the planet's hand, but once they're up they do their own thing, yes.
>If Zircon was a Weapon level threat, why did only one wake up instead of all like Meteor did?
Probably because Zirconiade was something the Planet knew one Weapon could handle. Meteor, however, was not.
>Why Did Meteor wake up all of them if none of them could do anything about Meteor?
Because the planet freaked the fuck out.
> Sephiroth is the one who awakened MEteors by using Meteor. So if this is like Zircon, why did no weapons try and kill Sephiroth?
Sephiroth hid his location from the Planet with his great willpower, magical talent, and jenova. The Weapons basically can't see him, and that's the way he likes it. He is very magical.
>The earth wasnt destroyed, and the lifestream didn't leave
Meteor was stopped, in case you forgot. Holy was activated once Sephiroth died and stopped restraining it with his willpower and aforementioned magical talents.
(1/2 I guess)
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>>154995846
>their big plan was just beat sephiroth, wait and hope for the best
>Planet saved itself.
The Planet can only move its "body" when Holy commands it to. Sephiroth was preventing Holy's activation. If Sephiroth was not defeated, Meteor would've slammed into the planet full force without the Lifestream to dampen it. Bugenhagen lays this out very clearly before he dies.
>if the lifestream was just gonna up and leave like Sephiroth planned, the Meteor would of hit as planned and it would of left.
The Lifestream has to gather up into Omega Weapon before it can ditch. Sephiroth was going to be where it was going to create Omega Weapon, and consume it almost certainly before Omega Weapon even fully materializes.
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>>154996091
Damn, they love giving us good stuff, don't they?
I mean, this would probably still a serviceable weapon in JP for the tank, wouldn't it?
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>>154994381
I dont remember this scene.
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>>154996317
Not counting TM, yea more or less.
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>>154996367
near the end of the game some of clouds memories trigger if you go to nibelheim i think.
i don't remember exactly
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Just when I was thinking about how I never get any RMs, I think I'll put it on Lightning for the time being because her first RM never fucking works
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>>154996367
>>154996475
After Cloud recovers you just need to go to the basement
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>>154996525
>>154996475
Going to have to remember this shit when I do a low-materia run next game
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>>154996176

Is Holy the 5th Element?
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>>154996754
Holy is basically just an ignition key for the Planet. All it does is make the Planet do things it can't normally do. It can only be activated by the Cetra who were entrusted with the White Materia that contains it, and Aerith activated it with her dying breath. But Sephiroth immediately strangled it with his superior magical might.
The second half of FFVII is literally just stopping Sephiroth so Holy can turn the Planet on again.
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>>154996176
Ludicrous. simply ludicrous.

How is a summoning the Turks could kill even a threat the planet deemed worthy in the first place? Id liek to think if the planets inhabitants had the capability to fix it, the planet shouldn't care. even if it was ordered to do something terrible, shit liek that happens all the time with Shinra and planet doesnt care.

If they arent gonna do anything to save planet from what actually gonna hurt it, why does the Planet fucking have weapons? The Planet made them, but it made them to not be able to function towards the problem at hand. Planet saw Meteor coming and said "that looks bad, guess ill just raze the world so there's a nice flat spot for the meteor to hit. except Jade Weapon which could target its reason to awake, for some reason.

Whats the points of this zones argument if you're even gonna say it doesn't matter.

The planet freaked out and forgot to mention Sephiroth is the problem, get him? They were literally right there together when it all happened. you're giving Sephiroths abilities a bit too much credit. I dont recall diddly squat about mention of him apparently lowering his power level and hiding his Ki.

And remidner of Sephi's plan;
1) possess Jenovas remains.
2) obtain black materia
3) let Aerith cast Holy (he could kill her after)
4) get Black materia to his real body
5) use black materia to put planet in alert
6) wait near the core, for the Meteor to reach the planet and let Holy activate so the lifestream push back the Meteor
7) Absorb the now exposed Lifestream from the Holy, become one with the Planet and therefore rule it.

Whats this nonsense about Omega in the original game. pft. puh-lease. please dont make FF7s writers seem like they were hat clever and foreshadowing.
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>>154996948
>Id liek to think if the planets inhabitants had the capability to fix it, the planet shouldn't care
Well too bad. Zirconiade can burn the world, so it was dangerous. They just stopped it before it did.
>If they arent gonna do anything to save planet from what actually gonna hurt it, why does the Planet fucking have weapons?
To stop dangerous things like Zirconiade or Jenova. Not Meteor. Meteor is too strong. Unfortunately, Sephiroth is better than the Planet.
>The planet freaked out and forgot to mention Sephiroth is the problem, get him?
Planet didn't even know Sephiroth was right there. Planet was blind to Seph's location.
>I dont recall diddly squat about mention of him apparently lowering his power level and hiding his Ki.
Because you apparently don't know fucking shit about FFVII, even the original game without the compilation. Sephiroth was basically doing 6 things at once when the party goes down to the core and murder him. He was summoning Meteor, dominating Jenova, strangling Holy, suppressing the Planet's awareness in general, absorbing the Lifestream, and also trying to kick your asses. The dude was busy.
>3) let Aerith cast Holy
Haha, what? That was not intended at all. That was, in fact, a worst-case scenario for him since Holy would stop Meteor if left alone.
>Whats this nonsense about Omega in the original game
Even if it's a retcon it's a retcon that fits snugly tight with the original lore.
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>>154996948
And a second post just to correct.
Sephiroth's plan was thus:
Hit the planet with Meteor.
Go to the wound that Meteor made. (Whether this is to fruitlessly attempt to heal or create Omega really doesn't matter in the end.)
Eat the whole damn lifestream in one sitting.
Become God and do whatever Gods do.
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What do you guys think of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfpJJLpZPG4
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>>154997490
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>>154997592
Is Wedge carrying a tommy gun?
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Thought you guys would like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3XGWhvyelA
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>>154997267
If He can absorb the Lifestream.. why does he need the Meteor to hit? In your scenario he taking the must stupid approach to reach his outcome.

>To stop dangerous things like Zirconiade or Jenova. Not Meteor. Meteor is too strong. Unfortunately, Sephiroth is better than the Planet.
Btu they didnt waken to stop Jenova. and the Planet did beat Meteor.

if Aeriths Holy wasnt intended, why did he lure her and wait? Sephiroth knew about the location and everything she'd do. he wanted her there, in that spot, and waited for her to cast Holy. Then he dropped down and impaled her. He could of done it anytime. but needed her to use White Materia.

fact of the matter is, Sephiroths plan was Never for Meteor to hit. it was to make the world give its all, and take it for himself.
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>>154997772
Aside from the drum mag how the fuck does that look like a tommy gun?
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>>154997873
Idk I'm not a gun nut
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>>154997862
The butcher of english grammer you're currently doing is physically hurting me
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>>154997862
Because the wound at the northern crater isn't that deep and there isn't a lot of lifestream there. He's only eating it so he can deal with Cloud and co., it won't make him into a god. Just a one-winged angel.
>Btu they didnt waken to stop Jenova.
The Weapons were first made after Jenova first became a problem, and Jenova hasn't been a threat to the Planet since. Jenova nowadays is completely under Sephiroth's control.
>and the Planet did beat Meteor.
Needed Holy. Holy wasn't working. Planet freaked out and summoned Weapons. That's all.
>if Aeriths Holy wasnt intended, why did he lure her and wait?
You're putting the cart before the horse. Sephiroth attacked Aerith as soon as he knew where she was. There was no "luring".
>Sephiroth knew about the location and everything she'd do. he wanted her there, in that spot, and waited for her to cast Holy
And that's a complete fabrication.
>Then he dropped down and impaled her. He could of done it anytime.
The Jenova piece Sephiroth sent to the City of the Ancients had only just arrived. I don't know why you think it was waiting for Aerith, rather, Aerith was waiting for it, in a way.
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>>154997862
>>154998086 (me)
Small addition. Why would Sephiroth try to make Cloud strike down Aerith the second he saw her (several moments before Holy was confirmed activated) if his Jenova piece was already in position to strike? It was clearly en route.
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>>154997815
>VIII - 1999
>IX - 2000
>X - 2001
>XI - 2002

>XII - 2006
Did something happen?
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>>154998284
There was that big of a time frame between XI and XII? Wow I never knew
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>>154998086 (me)
>>154998245 (still me)
In fact I bothered to crack open FFVII's script for this.

>Sephiroth
>"Hmm........ She's thinking of interfering? She will be a difficult one, don't you think?"
>
>"We must stop that girl soon."
There's no chance he WANTED her to use Holy.
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Does anyone know what the next batch of jobs will be in Mobius?
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>>154998284
Yes, actually. FFXII was a huge series of economic blunders. The director had to step down. It was a critical blow to Square-Enix's lasting operations, which was followed shortly by the Fabula Nova Cystallis mess. S-E only begun getting back in the black proper in 2015, with the success of FFXIV: Heavensward and their highly profitable mobage.
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>>154996317
This will pretty much be our third best sword we'll ever get outside of TMs, fourth if we get the Dragon Quest event (not happening).

So it will always be useful on a well prepared team. Make at least two if you can. All we need is 80 ore for one, so grab as many as you can get.

There's also a greatsword with two more ATK (but no DEF) and a katana with 8 more ATK (but no DEF) on the second FFT event.

On the FFII event we get an Axe with 4 more ATK and +15% HP, which would be better for tanks who can equip it.

In the FFIII event, we get a hammer with the same attack, lightning elemental, and +15% HP. But who the fuck has hammers.

In the SaGa collab (never ever) we get a spear with 4 more ATK and Dragon Killer

The DQ event also has an ice spear with 4 more attack and Aquan Killer, a holy spear with 10 more ATK, but again not happening.

The bahamut event gives us a gun with the same ATK, dragon killer, and an emergency super buff when critical HP. Only good for firion probably.

And of course, there's the mace from the upcoming event boss Antenora with 6 more ATK, poison and human killer.

And those are all the items we'll get that will beat it (assuming we follow JP from here on out, which is silly to think).
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>>154998454
Probably the end of this month or the beginning of the next. They tend to announce things a month at a time, so I'm guessing it's going to be after the tower event, like when the last batch came.
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>>154998697
My body is ready to grind already tbqh
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>>154995532
Shit, you're right. Don't know why I confused the two.

>>154998490
It was less about FFXII and more about Wada's incompetent management. He fired a ton of their experienced programmers to cut costs and then was surprised they didn't have the resources to develop vidya.
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>>154998454
If it follows JP like it has so far, it'd be Dragoon, Scholar, Dancer.
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>>154998787
cute tifa
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>>154998821
God, Wada was a fucking blight on the entire industry.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyGssepjwAs
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Fifteen more minutes until THE GREEN TITTENING II: THE SEARCH FOR GREEN TITTIES

Please line up to receive you complimentary green tiddies.
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I returned to RK after a long leave, drew for the fuck of it and got Terra's Tiara. After looking up what being imbued with fire was and I was wondering how to get the best use out of it? If I remember correctly a problem with magic in RK is we hit cap easy and no way to break it by multi-hitting like Glorious Saint Cross. Maybe bring Ifirt to abuse after Fire Beam? Should I hold for two bars to use the SSB back to back to buff the second? What're the possibilities here?

TL;DR: Got Terra's Fire Beam, how to make best use of fire empowerment thing?
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>>154999361
did he upload the save file tho
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Vayne

Black Magic 5, Combat 5, Darkness 5, Monk 5
Equip: Dagger, Sword, Fist, Rod, Staff; Hat, Light Armor, Heavy Armor, Robe, Bracelet
Lvl 80 Stats: 5380 HP, 170 ATK, 113 DEF, 177 MAG, 100 RES, 80 MND, 118 SPD
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How does Gilgamesh's 6* Weapon Collector passive work with dual wield in FFBE? I'm about to get his dual wield bracelet and I wonder whether I get two boni to total attack if I equip a katana and another sword type or just boni to each weapon.
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>>155000043
You do, it's what makes him such a beast.

That's also Firion's main claim to fame. If you give him dual wield, you get to pick two of your favorite bonuses to apply.

I wouldn't be shocked if they "fixed" this for global.
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WHO /PULLWITHME/ HERE?
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>>154997815
>VIII, IX and X show each games romance
>VII shows Cloud and Sephiroth
ayy
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>>154999761

I wonder if there's any porn of Rydia getting fucked by Cecil.
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>>155000271
Why not. I don't play that game anymore, I'll waste my lapis. What banner, you slut?
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>>155000323
That's CoD baka.

Although now that you've said it's Rydia you've posioned it. We'll all pull her now.
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>>155000323
Theres at least two translated CecilxRydia doujins
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>>155000338
There's only one senpai
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>>155000398
I assume you mean the 1/2 price one. Let's do it, whore.
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>>155000271
>cyan
fuckin hell
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>>155000371
Hey not that I care because I am not disgusting like that or anything but if you could maybe let me know the names and if Rydia is child or adult form that'd be great though I don't really care at all, really, you know.
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>>155000098
That's pretty nice then, especially since I'm about to tackle the Gilgamesh trial for the katana reward after powerleveling my Cecil this weekend.

I thought Firion's main claim was stacking various "X Killer" passives out of the ass.
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>>155000440
Don't cheat you slut!
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>>155000271
Well my luck from yesterday is dead
>the city of FFV anon
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>>155000271
I tried
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>>155000271
Whelp, bye Terra.
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>>155000271

>shitty 3* Krile

FUCK
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>>155000450
The names escape my but their both by the same person, its Adult Rydia in both doujins, one in involves her getting drunk and trying to seduce Cecil and the other is a ffm doujin involving Rosa as well
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>>155000548
>I may bring misfortune to you
you don't say
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>>155000271
Thanks for the idea of pulling.
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>Accidentally hit claim all
FUCK MY 4 FUCKING ENERGY CHARGES
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>>155000652
>not part of the 200 club

pathetic desu
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For healers how do you build up their Soul Break? Is it the amount of healing they do? Or just be like any character and use a heal even if your party needs the slightest bit of healing? Guessing the latter because I see even nips using Curaja when their party hardly takes damage.
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Are we not getting any more daily cake materials?
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>>154999782
P-please halp?
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>>155000796
My healer builds SB by getting the shit kicked out of her while wearing steiner's materia that gives bonus SB for getting attacked.
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>>155000493
That's his other main claim. He can have two.

He also gets one ability passive for each kind of weapon, and he can equip all the kinds of weapons.
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>>155000796
Every action gives a set amount. I don't remember the numbers but let's say it's 40 points for attacking, 60 for almost all skills (it varies a tiny bit). Hitting a weakness gives you a bonus but I can't recall if double or 50%.

Getting hit also grants SB but not if by friendly fire, so don't go slapping them with your mages or anything like that.
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>>155000837
Befitting for a heal slut.
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>>155000810
Just nuke with strong fire spells, you'll never hit cap on Ultimate bosses anyways so it's just as good.
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>>154999782
firaja?
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>>155000271
got a DUPE CoD, is her TM good?
Should I just feed the dup to the original?
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>>155000271
250 pulled Maria

stop playing with my feelings gumi
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>>155000970
>>155000995
Oh, I've been gone since the second Nightmare Dungeon so it's been a while and I didn't remember we don't really hit the damage cap at all. Guess I was overthinking it, my bad.
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>>155000806

More importantly, do we keep the ingredients after the whole event is over?
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>>155000493
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>>155001109
>webmfag btfo yet again
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>>155001012
Do not feed the dupe she's a top tier unit. TM is shit though
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>>155001012
MultiCoD is the original Arena steamroll team.

The more you have the better.
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>>155000271
Anzelm and Maria for me.

Anzelm is my fucking nemesis in this game. I've pulled so many *4 of this fucker the mere thought of him fills me with unspeakable rage.
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>>155000271
I´m surprised that it wasn´t Penelo.
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>>155000806
Please respond, I just need 900 more cakes
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>>155001446
Nope ya blew it
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>>155001430
IS GARNET USING THE HOWEVER MEME?
THE FUCK GUMI?
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>>155001430
I gotta admit I am jelly as fuck though I pulled Lenna. I think Lenna is arguably better as a healer and support but there's something about Rydia and Garnet's esper spam I just love and Rydia's fucking 4* cap.
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Well I'm done with this banner.
Chizuru would be nice, but I'd rather save lapis for the odd daily pull on other banners now.

>>155001446
>>155000806
Nope, unfortunately. Sucks, because I rather wanted that MP 20%, but I think even with the daily drop until the end I wouldn't have made enough.
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>>155001529
/v/ has polluted your mind.
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>>155000796
I use the RM that gives you a free sb charge.
Since most of the time, all i really need to use is stoneskin.
I was also told you could use wrath and just build the charge like a madcunt, but that takes up an ability slot.
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>>155001572
I see, oh well, then I gotta buy the 400 lapis pack then, I got like 160 flour still ininventory so I'll make it with that
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>>155001701
If it cheers you up, even if you buy both recipes and all crafting slots you still end up with a cool 200 lapis gained in the long run from the summon tickets.

So there's no real reason not to. You're not wasting lapis, it's still a net gain.
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>>155001691
Wrath is for legitimately useless characters who have a SB you want to bring along. Like Edward.
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>>155001446
I too will be 1000~2000 cakes short of the Stellar Shield.

I wasn't even planning to get it, but I got a Krile yesterday and realized I blew it.
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>>155001851
You fucked up considering the shield is great
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>>155001851
pathetic mogcucks
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>>155001430
HOWEVER!!
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>>155001529
>>155002035
I very much doubt this is a reference to a shitty forced meme that lasted less than a week.

Pic related, however...
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>>155001851
Shield was the best part of the event.

The mace will be worthless in two months once we get Antenora.
The shield will be forever.
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>>155002298
I could only find that Antenora is a boss. What does it give?
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alright I maxed my Thief
I'm ready for my shit luck to kick in and finally give me WoL after investing heavily into him
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>>155002682
The Motherfucker Meisu.

It has 78 ATK, inflicts poison 70% of the time, and has innate maneater to make CoD a real Motherfucker.

Hence the name.
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>>155002784
Well. I'm looking forward to this very much.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWcZWFuUagA

how long till toriyama hunts this girl down.
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>>155002298
>>155002784
>Look up info on the fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtRU6_BAaTw
That fucking damage, holy fuck.
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>>155002854
If she weighs over 115 lbs he won't bother.
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>>155001567
I honestly wish more people had Garnet or Rydia as the friend unit. The esper summon trophies are a bitch to get so there is no other unit I would rather take with me when doing full exploration runs.
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>>155002962
>115 lbs
TOO THICC

Armpit-sama weighs a lean and graceful 95 pounds.

Do you see any rolls of fat?
That's right you don't.
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>>155002854
Never because she's ugly compared to Lightning
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>tfw you leave one spot on your friend list incase an /ffg/ bro adds you.
keep rejecting these redditors and chinese/koreans just for you.
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>>155003215
looks like 105-115 to me
95 seems like bulimic tier
I honestly wouldn't know i never played any of her games.
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>>155003215
No fat, no figure, no attraction.
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>>155003293
Well, if toriyama's girlfriend is good looking enough, why would she get embarrassed dressing up as Lightning-sama?
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>>155003306
Post fc
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>>155003306
I'll add you.

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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>>155000293
We all know the romance in FFVII was garbage.
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>>155003327
>looks like 105-115 to me
>95 seems like bulimic tier
we still need to know how tall Lightning is, pic related is 84 lbs at 5'2
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>>155003327
>>155003664
Well she's 5'7 so 95 lbs would give her the same bmi as this girl here.

She's literally a skellerton. Unf, gives me a boner every time.
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>>155003786
>>155003664
Makes sense. Didn't really consider height.
I only based my assumption on a friend who has a similar body type, around maybe 5'8 115.
It's really unattractive if you ask me. But different strokes y'know.
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>>155004182
>ywn get different stroked by a skeleton
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>>155003786
>Lightning is as tall as Cloud
Why was Cloud such a manlet? He's the shortest FF protag after Vaan and Zidane.
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>>155004738
*shortest male protag
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>>155004798
Well it's a good thing the only female protag is lightning.

(Locke is the main protag of VI)
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>>155004860
>headcanoning
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>>155004738
Zidane is 173 cm which is 5'8
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>>155005317
>>155005317
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>>155005207
Checked the heights; Zidane and Cloud are actually both 173 cm and Lightning is slightly shorter. They're still manlets, though.
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YES

YEESSSSSSSS

THE DAY I LIVED TO SEE MY WAIFU BE 4* BASE
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>>155005591
>Wakka 5* max
>a fucking AL-BHED at 6* max

This is some heretical bullshit
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>>155005748

>>155005852
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>>154983027

It's true in the old days where marketing only shows you what they want to show you. Atlus still works that way kinda, but then went the same route SE did for the final leg of their marketing before release with demo after demo and an anime short. Of course then the game got leaked and people are pirating it to start shit, so I kind of feel for Atlus.

But XV has only proved how intolerant and resistant to change the fanbase has always been from a lot of reactions. Some are fair, most are not. I still remember the shitstorm Tactics had back in the day, where people said it wasn't a FF. For XV, and especially with that last full TGS trailer, I can't really see it as being anything but good unless you just always hated the way the battle system worked even with the tools they've added. Even when I look at the game heavily scrutinizing the footage, I didn't have the "cancelling my preorder" kneejerk reaction some did(I didn't preorder yet), nor saw what was so hard about using the magic crafting that some people say they needed help from staff to figure out. And the other comments:

>I hate them wearing all black!
>You get a number of colorful outfits
>lol its GTA FF now

So silly. A number of reactions just seemed to be from people who either weren't gonna buy and wanting to shit post it into the ground(kinda like what is going on with P5 with leakers and pirates) or contrarians.

All in all, it will be good from what we've seen, and they still keep a lot close to the vest.
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FF games are the most overrated shit in history. classic shit stories, shitty gameplays, everything is shitty.
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>>155007230
>But XV has only proved how intolerant and resistant to change the fanbase has always been from a lot of reactions.

XV has proved nothing we don't already know about "gamers' as a whole. Just look at /v/: a bunch of people with no concept of how the industry works, no concept of how games are actually made, and no willingness to actually play videogames, much less the ones they criticize, screeching to have their voice heard over things they never had any real interest in to begin with.

>I DON'T LIKE THING! [okay].jpg

is accurate to a fault when discussing gamers.
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