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Dueling Network/Yu-Gi-Oh! General #2304
Last thread: >>154792021

Spooky Lolis Edition

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Useful Links:
Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/
OCG decklists:
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
https://ygorganization.com/category/decklists/ocg-decklist/weekly-ocg-decklist/
TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists
TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/
Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/
Official /dng/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Structure Deck R: Machine Dragon Re-Volt (September 24th)
●OCG: Raging Tempest (October 8th)
●OCG: Booster SP: Fusion Enforcers (November 12)
●OCG: Dimension Box Limited Edition (November 26)

●TCG: Rivals of the Pharaoh (September 15)
●TCG: Legendary Decks II (October 7th)
●TCG: Structure Decks Yugi Muto and Seto Kaiba (October 21st)
●TCG: Invasion: Venom (November 4th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP.
● Read the cards.
● Lurk and read the archives.
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above.
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play.
● If you want to improve, netdeck and playtest constantly.
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ODDO AISU RAGING DORAGONNNNNN
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VJump is the best time
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>XYZ
>SCALE 1
>XYZ
>SCALE 1
>XYZ
>SCALE 1
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Frightfur Kraken

Fusion Materials: 1 “Edge Imp” monster + 1 “Fluffal” monster
(1) Once per turn: You can target 1 monster your opponent controls; send that monster to the Graveyard. During the turn you activate this effect, this card cannot attack directly.
(2) This card can attack twice per each Battle Phase.
(3) When a Battle Phase ends in which this card attacked: You can change this card to Defense Position.


>Still targets
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>>154902459
>>154902484
>OERD was so bad they had to retrain OERD
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>>154902459
>2 level 7 dragon mat

shit
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>>154902502
But its non destruction removal, so close enough.
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>>154902502
Decentish I guess.
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SPEF-JP014 Furnimal Octo / Fluffal Octo
Level 1 WATER Fairy-Type Effect Monster
ATK 800
DEF 800
You can only use the (1) and (2) effects of “Fluffal Octo” once per turn eachj.
(1) When this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can target 1 “Fluffal” monster or “Edge Imp” monster in your Graveyard; add that monster to your hand.
(2) If this card is sent to the Graveyard due to being used as a Fusion Material for the Fusion Summon of a “Frightfur” Fusion Monster: You can target up to 2 of your banished monsters; return them to the Graveyard.
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>>154902559
>Can't get over chaos meme
>Can't hit whatever spirit dragon dodges into
>Can't beat Kozmos despite not triggering the float

It's shit, anon.
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>>154902502

Nice, this is that they needed, non-destruction removal

Would be better if it was non-targeting though. Well, I guess that's what Tiger + Sheep are for
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>>154902620
CUTE
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>>154902459
>>154902484
>mfw its doing the Koichi pose
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>>154902620
>uses your normal summon
>that second effect
Eh
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>>154902620
topkek, this shit outclasses Rabbit and Cat so fucking hard, the best part is that it makes the Wings play a +6 as long as you have 2 Toy Vendor on field (not that hard at all in Fluffals)
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>>154902620
YES PERFECT
FINALLY THIS CARD ANSWERS A TON OF PROBLEMS

It'd be better if it were SS from grave, but I'm not complaining.


>>154902640
What on earth are you talking about? Sheep and tiger don't solve that issue at all. One targets and the other doesn't even HAVE a destruction effect.
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OCG F&L List 1st October 2016

>Forbidden
Level Eater

>Limited to 1 :
Magician of Faith
Majespecter Unicorn - Kirin
Cyber-Stein
PSY-Framelord Omega

>Limited to 2 :
Artifact Moralltach
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
D/D Swirl Slime
Star Seraph Sovereignty
Inzektor Dragonfly
D/D Lamia
Mathematician
Monster Gate
El Shaddoll Fusion
Domain of the True Monarchs

>No Longer limited :
Sangan
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Gateway of the Six
Wall of Revealing Light
Qliphort Scout
Charge of the Light Brigade
Sinister Shadow Games
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>>154902720
Rabbit, sure, Cat though?
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Glory on the Academia
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>>154902737

Tiger + Sheep get over any Kozmo ship without letting them float
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>>154902787
Definitely Cat. Cat is mediocre as fuck, this helps out a ton. Neat one for one target, too.
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>>154902893
They do different things though.
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Are we getting Fusion Enforcers? Or is it obe of those packs thaf we get several years later when they are bo longer relevant. Im still waiting for thag Silent Angler
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>>154902957
Yes, and this one does different, better things. Don't you run fusion reserve?
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>>154902459
same pendulum summon clause as OERD
2 attacks in the battle phase
once per turn you can detach 1 to destroy all cards your opponent controls and gain 200 atk for each card destroyed.
if it's destroyed in the monster zone you can scale it.

my runes are shit so take this with an extremely small grain of salt.
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>Yugay gets dragon inspired on Jack's Red Demon
>It's an xyz

uhhh yugitards? how does that makes sense?
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>>154902982
Are we gonna get HighSpeed Riders or Wing Raiders? Oh wait we did.

On another note, just got back from walmart, got a mega tin and 4 Highspeed Rider packs.

Pulled an Infinity, an Omega and two terrortops. money made back.
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>>154902459
RATE-JP048 Haou Retsuryuu Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon (OCG: Supreme King Violent Dragon, Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon/TCG: Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon)
Level 7 DARK Dragon-Type Xyz Pendulum Effect Monster
ATK 3000
DEF 2500
Pendulum Scale: 1
Pendulum Effect:
(1) Once per turn, if there isn’t a card in your other Pendulum Zone: Place 1 Pendulum Monster directly from your Deck into your Pendulum Zone
Xyz Materials:
2 Level 7 Dragon-Type Monsters
Monster Effect:
If you can Pendulum Summon Level 7, you can Pendulum Summon this face-up card in your Extra Deck.
(1) This card gains the following effects if an Xyz Monster is used as an Xyz Material to Summon this card.
• This card can attack twice during each battle Phase.
• Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; destroy all cards your opponent controls, and until this turn ends, this card gains 200 ATK for each card destroyed
(2) If this card in the Monster Zone is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can place this card in your Pendulum Zone.
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>>154903141
Well Level Eater was banned, so...
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>>154902459
>>154902484
RATE-JP048 Haou Retsuryuu Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon (OCG: Supreme King Violent Dragon, Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon/TCG: Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon)
Level 7 DARK Dragon-Type Xyz Pendulum Effect Monster
ATK 3000
DEF 2500
Pendulum Scale: 1
Pendulum Effect:
(1) Once per turn, if there isn’t a card in your other Pendulum Zone: Place 1 Pendulum Monster directly from your Deck into your Pendulum Zone
Xyz Materials:
2 Level 7 Dragon-Type Monsters
Monster Effect:
If you can Pendulum Summon Level 7, you can Pendulum Summon this face-up card in your Extra Deck.
(1) This card gains the following effects if an Xyz Monster is used as an Xyz Material to Summon this card.
• This card can attack twice during each battle Phase.
• Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; destroy all cards your opponent controls, and until this turn ends, this card gains 200 ATK for each card destroyed
(2) If this card in the Monster Zone is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can place this card in your Pendulum Zone.
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>>154903063
I used Fusion Conscription. Put Reserve in, but haven't played Fluffals in forever..
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JEAN STRIKES FROM THE GRAVE
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>>154903164
>>154903178
>Supreme King

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>154903178
>This card gains the following effects if an Xyz Monster is used as an Xyz Material to Summon this card.
Garbage
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2nd theme in FUSION ENFORCERS IS

ANCIENT GEAR
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>>154903164
>>154903178
Wow, it's absolutely fucking nothing.
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>>154903218

KITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>154903218
What do
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>>154902792
GO
AWAY
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>>154903164
>>154903178
>needs an Xyz monster as material to do anything

IT'S FUCKING GARBAGE
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>>154903282
>RATE
Idiot
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>>154903164
>This card gains the following effects if an Xyz Monster is used as an Xyz Material to Summon this card.
Here I was hoping for something I could use in Red-Eyes.
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>>154903282
>Fusion Enforcer
>Blatantly says RATE
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>>154903218
>>154903282
>>154903291
N-NANI?!

Antique Gear Devil
Once per turn: You can inflict 1000 damage to your opponent for each face-up Spell Card you control. While this card is equipped with an Equip Card, it is unaffected by your opponent's card effects.

>>154903291
Ancient Gear Reborn
"Once per turn, if you control no monsters: You can target 1 "Ancient Gear" monster that was sent to the Graveyard this turn; Special Summon it, and if you do, increase its original ATK by 200."
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>More anime cards for leaks

Fucking shit.
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>>154903438
>Ancient gear reborn
>Doesn't ignore summoning conditions

It's SHIT
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>>154903438
I know damn well it says more than that
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>>154903497
He posted the anime effects, dipshit.
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>>154903218
2 ancient gear monsters

you can only use the (2) effect of ancient gear devil once per turn.

not sure about the first effect
(2) once per turn you can inflict 1000 damage to your opponent
(3) if this face-up card on the field is destroyed by battle and sent to the graveyard, you can special summon 1 ancient gear monster from your deck ignoring the summoning conditions.
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>>154903452
You're playing a game based off of an anime/manga. Get used to it bud
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>>154903532
The first effect is unaffected by card effects
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>>154903532
1) Unaffected by card effects
2) 1000 damage (Hard OTP)
3) Summoning effect
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>>154903438
uh no by 200!
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>>154903530
I didn't know that, he never mentioned anything to indicate that.
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>>154903532
>>154903594
That's actually not bad.
>>
Please tell me this isn't it and we're gonna get some good cards revealed
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>Unaffected by card effects

neat

>1000 ATK

nevermind
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>>154903594
>>154903601
Thanks lads.
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>>154903282
>>154903218
RATE-JP042 Antique Gear Devil / Ancient Gear Fiend
Level 8 EARTH Machine-Type Fusion Effect Monster
ATK 1000
DEF 1800
Fusion Materials: 2 “Ancient Gear” monsters
You can only use the (2) effect of “Ancient Gear Fiend” once per turn.
(1) This card is unaffected by other card effects.
(2) During your Main Phase: You can inflict 1000 damage to your opponent.
(3) If this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard: You can Special Summon 1 “Ancient Gear” monster from your Deck, ignoring the Summoning conditions.
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POST CHAOS FUSION
POST CHAOS FUSION
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>>154903178
At least I can splash it in Metalfoes just to get a low scale and recurring free search.
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>>154903698
This is it.
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>>154903532
Finally, a card that gets its effects when destroyed by battle that doesn't get risk getting memed on by card effects.
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>>154903291
Antique Gear Reborn / Ancient Gear Reborn
Continuous Trap Card
(1) You only control 1 face-up “Ancient Gear Reborn”.
(2) Once per turn, if you control no monsters: You can target 1 “Ancient Gear” monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon that monster. A monster Special Summoned by this effect gains 200 ATK.
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>>154903706
You're not gonna get an unaffected floating beater for 2 ancient gear monsters
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>>154903739
FUCK
Not even the new V-Jump promo?
>RATE not out until the 8th

God dammit.
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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dystopia_the_Despondent
>doesn't have any effect that protects itself that isn't the battle step
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>>154903728
How do you summon 2 level 7 dragon type monsters on the field? Run 3 odd eyes?
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>>154903720
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>>154903756
Why the hell they put the gain 200 ATK?
It makes them vulnerable to Ragnazero +2.
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>>154902502
>>154902620
>>154902747
>>154903164
>>154903714
>>154903756
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>>154903756
This is kind of silly. At least it doesn't float on destruction for sick Reactor Dragon plays.
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>>154903836
Same reason they gave AND DEAL 100 DMG TO YOUR OPPPONENT to Lunalights while Damage Juggler was still allowed.
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>>154903816
You need to get an Xyz monster under it for it to do anything
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>all these shitty cards so far

When did VJUMP get so shit?
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>>154903816
Can I pendulum summon an improperly summoned monster from ED?
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>>154902957

since Octopus recovers dead Owls that means it recovers dead Polymerizations

by basically doing your standard One for One or Toy Vendor play you can get back your Owl or recover any other monster (what Rabbit did). It outclasses both.
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>>154903925
Ancient Gear Devil is good though
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>>154903871
>At least it isn't good!
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>>154903920
That anon wants to use it as a low scale only.
Consiering how sparse extra deck space is I am wondering how its somehow worth splashing into the deck.
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>All this waiting for new card reveals
>Literally nothing to get that excited over
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>no noids leaked
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New RATE ritual theme
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YOOOOOOOO
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One shot theme is "Soul Bird", a ritual theme of spirit monsters
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>use Cattle Call/Last Strix to summon Revolution Falcon
>RUM Phantom Knights' Launch into Reijing Dragon
I AM FUCKING INVINCIBLE until my opponent activates any kind of disruption
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>>154904031
>>154904045
TRANSLATE IT WEEBS
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>>154904031
>zodiacs are Rituals

WE NEKROZ BOIS
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>>154903925
>Implying fans of the anime/manga care about boring meta cards

These are the most relevant cards to anyone who's watched the show, of course they're going to give previews of them in a manga magazine.
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>>154903957
Hm, you're right. Thanks for clearing that up. A two of then?
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>>154904031
>>154904045
Z-Zodiac Beast?
The Metal/Crystron of RATE?
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>>154904031
pre-prep
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>>154903956
Usually no, but I dont no about this case since it explicitly states that you can summon him when you could p summon level 7 monsters and hes face up.
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>>154904031
>>154904045
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>>154904031
Oh fuck, I'll need both of my hands for this.
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>>154904031
Motherfucker is that a Spirit monster?
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>>154904031
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>>154904073
>spirit monsters

INTO THE TRASH IT GOES
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NEW SPIRIT SUPPORT
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>>154904085
Ah yes, the Chinese Zodiac animal everyone wants to be born under, the peacock. The most distinguished of the 12.

In seriousness I think it's the next Dracoslayer archetype.
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>>154904031
>>154904045
>Ritual
>also Spirit
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>154904101
Does the card specify her?
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>>154904073
>Spirit Ritual
What.
I ritual summon him just for it to return to hand in EP?
And most Spirit is also nomi.
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>>154904031
>spirit/ritual
??????????????????????????
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>Spirit
It's shit. Spirit monsters by definition cannot create auto win fields.

I really fucking hope at this point that zodiacs are a boring rank 4 deck.
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Brother and sister you think?
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>>154904031
>>154904045
>That's a Winged Beast
>This isn't
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>>154904224
waifu
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>>154904172
It specifies 2 monsters, so yeah, it works with pre-pre-pre-prep
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>>154904195
I would have sucked 1000 dicks if Nekroz had been spirits
>summon trish and valk
>both go back to hand in EP
I mean god, how retarded would that have been

Excep for Unicorn maybe.
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>>154904113
Never mind.
If it get destroyed, it goes to Scale, no matter whether it's properly summoned or not.
Now I wonder if there's any card to cheat out placing him in Monster Zone.
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>>154904271
I don't think you know what that word means, newfag.
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>>154904045
>>154904101
>>154904146
>>154904224
Guys, what if they decide to shill this archetype by unbanning Yata
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NOW YOU'LL ALL FEEL MY WRATH YOU FUCKS
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>>154904224
>>154904161
>>154904146
>>154904101
>>154904045
>>154904031
EVERYONE

HEAR ME

THOSE CARDS

ARE FAKEEEEEEEEEEEEE

WE ALREADY GOT ALL THE MAGAZINE SPOILERS

THOSE "SPOILERS" ARE COMING FROM SOMEONE ELSE

THEY ARE 100% FAKEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154904031
>>154904045

>nobody has claimed her

HAHAHAHA TIME TO WIN
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>>154904210
>By definition
>Definition of a spirit monster is just a monster that returns to the hand at the end phase and has the word "spirit" next to its type

Where's the part about not being able to win?
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>>154904306
Shut the fuck up faggot

That cutie is mine
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>>154904045
>>154904031
>Level 8
>BEWD statline

IS IT HAPPENING?

>>154904165
>Crystrons were Accel Synchros
>Metalphosis were Normal Fusions
>Zodiacs are Spirit Rituals

Oh fuck, EARTH Union Xyz incoming?
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>>154904323
DONT RUIN THIS FOR ME
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>>154903282
>>154903438
>>154903532
>>154903714
Not bad, especially since it requires any 2 AGs, makes Hound a lot more useful.
So, when are we getting the Hound fusions and Chaos Giant?
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>>154904323
kys
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>>154904358
Zodiacs are not the Rituals
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>>154904352

YOU DIDN'T CLAIM HER FUCKTARD, SHE'S MINE >>154904337
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>>154904337
>her
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>>154904045
Translate it weebs
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>>154904358
>Earth Wyrm not Amorphage Rituals

WIND Spirit Rituals aren't the main archetype though

>>154904387
Probably the Fusion booster
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>>154904417
You realize the ritual is a guy, right? I was claiming the cutie in the trap with the guy.
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>>154904417
You claimed the male tho
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>>154902484
>Let's take Odd-Eyes Rebellion Dragon, keep it's terrible, hard-to-meet restrictions but make it's effect infinitely worse!
>That will make Berserk Yuya look like even more of a threat!
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>>154904045
this isn't female dummies
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>>154904449
>Probably the Fusion booster
Yeah, they could do the same thing they did with the Goyos. Release some in the main pack and shove the rest in a Booster Special.
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>>154904472
>>154904456
>>154904429

>the dick
>not making her better
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>>154904496
Card is instantly shit
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>>154904358
Anon, you need to understand sarcasm.
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>>154904523
>dick
>her
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>>154904526
well duh
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>>154904352
You really shouldn't use words if you don't know what they mean. Something is not your ''waifu'' just because you kinda like the design.
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>>154904475
>enemy fieldwide pop
>worse than only popping shit under level 7 while having a garbage scale

???

It's still trash because of the summoning restriction but its effect is infinitely better.
>>
>>154904551

>traps
>not having a feminine penis
>not being basically superior women
>>
>>154904031
>>154904045
Espirit Lord – Hikokujaku
Level 8 WIND Winged Beast-Type Ritual Spirit Effect Monster
ATK 3000
DEF 2500
You can Ritual Summon this card with “Espirit Calling”. Must be Ritual Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other means.
(1) If this card is Ritual Summoned: you can return up to 3 monsters the opponent controls to the owner’s hand, then you can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Spirit monster from your hand ignoring its summoning conditions.
(2) During the End Phase of the turn in which this card was Ritual Summoned, return this card to the owner’s hand, and if you do, Special Summon 2 “Espirit Token” (Winged Beast-Type/WIND/Level 4/ATK 1500/DEF 1500).
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>>154904045
Espirit Lord – Hikokujaku
Level 8 WIND Winged Beast-Type Ritual Spirit Effect Monster
ATK 3000
DEF 2500
You can Ritual Summon this card with “Espirit Calling”. Must be Ritual Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other means.
(1) If this card is Ritual Summoned: you can return up to 3 monsters the opponent controls to the owner’s hand, then you can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Spirit monster from your hand ignoring its summoning conditions.
(2) During the End Phase of the turn in which this card was Ritual Summoned, return this card to the owner’s hand, and if you do, Special Summon 2 “Espirit Token” (Winged Beast-Type/WIND/Level 4/ATK 1500/DEF 1500).
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>>154903282
2nd theme is probably Gladiator Beasts or Predator Plants.
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>>154904045
>>154904031
>Ritual Spirits
OH
MY
GOD
WANT
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>Its another Humans wearing birds shit archetype
Well I guess Winged Beast Rituals exists now
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>>154903957
Do you not understand how fluffals work? Owl cannot grab poly from grave, only cat. If anything octo replaces sheep and rabbit
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>>154904603
(1) If this card is Ritual Summoned: you can return up to 3 monsters the opponent controls to the owner’s hand, then you can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Spirit monster from your hand ignoring its summoning conditions.
DOESNT TARGET
DOESNT TARGET
DPESMT TARGET
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>>154904603
>If this card is Ritual Summoned: you can return up to 3 monsters the opponent controls to the owner’s hand, then you can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Spirit monster from your hand ignoring its summoning conditions.
Too bad Yata is banned
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>>154904583
Is there a card that can cheat him into field?
Cattle Call for dragons? Odd-eyes Absolute Dragon?
It get put in Scale no matter how you summon it, so it seems decent.
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>>154904603
>Reusable Triverr with a spirit SS

So far so good. Now we just need something to help recover the advantage we lose by summoning her. Maybe a level 8 that returns to hand from grave.
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PLEASE
MORE ENJOY
KOI KOI KOI KOI KOI
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>>154904603
dude creature swap lmao
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>>154904723
Aratama/othertama
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>>154904603
>Nontargeting Mist Wurm that summons Spirits and floats into defense tokens on a 3000 body

That's pretty good for OTKs, especially if Yata is unbanned
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>>154904603
..wait
is this
actually good???

whats going on here
>>
Will the TCG ban Level Eater too?
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>>154904726
Holy fuck
>Steal Chaos Max
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>>154904603
>Urgent Ritual Art target
>Massive non-target non-destruction removal
I think I just got a boner.
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>>154904101
RATE-JP060 Espirit Calling
Ritual Spell Card
This card is used to Ritual Summon “Espirit Lord – Hikokujaku” or “[…]”.
(1) Tribute monsters from your hand or field, and/or banish Spirit monsters from your Graveyard whose total Levels equal the Level of the monster that will be Ritual Summoned or more.
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>>154904670

Why the fuck wouldn't you have Polymerizations left in deck when by using a Polymerization you basically have 2 extra fusions live with Factory and Frightfur Fusion
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>>154904604
>tokens
Mecha Phantom Beasts sekrit tek.
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>>154904603
>ritual/spirit
>everything searchable by generic ritual support
>AND SEARCHABLE BY GENERIC SPIRIT SUPPORT
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>>154904802
TCG players are too dumb to play Synchro Masturbation properly.

But on the flipside KoA is also too dumb to make hits properly so yes.
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>>154904812
>Urgent Ritual Art target
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>>154904603
>Ritual
>Spirit
>actually good
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>>154904603
>can use alongside Urgent Ritual Art for disruption on your opponent's turn
Fun as fuck.
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>>154904670
Maybe he meant Owl can still use it's second effect of using 500 to fuse? I still think cat is good honestly, at least at 1.
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>>154904603
What if this is a fucking Pre-Prep target
Imagine if this could be splashed into anything that runs level 4s or 8s
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>>154904862
>and/or banish Spirit monsters from your Graveyard
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>>154904862
>it names the monsters specifically

so they want to push them
>>
>ABC and Blue-Eyes remain untouched
Does Kaiba own Konami?
>>
>>154904864
I have no fucking clue why you wouldn't but that's not what the conversation was it?
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Sniped all the other fuckers in the Discord, fucking MEMED.
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GOTTA GO FAST
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CLEAR WING FASTO DORAGON
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>>154904862
>PRE-PREP TARGET
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>154904583
If you got either OERD or OERagingD onto the field than their backrow wasn't relevant. Both cards have to end the game the turn they come out and get their effect, but Rebellion will always outdamage Raging unless they control no monsters, in which case you most likely had game anyway considering that the only deck that will use this is Odd-Eyes and to make either card get their effect will take Odd-Eyes + Absolute at the minimum.
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>>154904930
It is a pre-prep target. The ritual spell has two names specifically mentioned on it, including that.
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>>154904862
Looking like neo nekroz now
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>>154904981
>>
>>154904862
>Generic
>searchable by Pre-prep
>can banish from grave
It's good.
Too fucking good to be real.
>>
>>154904146
>>154904161
RATE-JP023 Espirit Bird – Kannaki Tsuru
Level 4 Winged Beast-Type Spirit Effect Monster
ATK 1500
DEF 1500
Cannot be Special Summoned.
(1) Once per turn, if a Spirit Monster is Normal or Special Summoned: You can draw 1 card from your Deck.
(2) During the End Phase of the turn this card is Normal Summoned or flipped face-up: Return it to the hand.
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>>154905015
>>154905019
YOOOOOOO

This mean we're gonna get the next V-Jump promo shown too?
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>Unions and Spirits are going to be meta in 2016

Too bad they still couldn't make Geminis good
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>>154905015
>>154905019
>>
>>154905015
OH BABY

gotta go fast
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>>154904902

yeah, I was thinking that too, the paying 500 to fuse

Fluffals have so many in-build ways to fusion summon Polymerization is only used to get mats in grave

>>154904979
the conversation was about it outclassing Rabbit and Cat

you get any Fluffal/Edge Imp on summon, unlike Rabbit that only gets back Sabres and when sent as fusion material

it recovers owls that you can summon to use the effect to fuse for 500 life points so it also outclasses cat

it's really easy
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>>154905015
>>154905019
>Yugo favoritism
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>>154905072
Garbage.
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>>154904902
I think he has played fluffals in a while and thinks owl can grab poly from somewhere that isn't the deck. I agree with you though, I'll replace my cat and sheep with two octo when he gets added to ygo.
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>>154905015
>>154905019
BEST BOY BREAKIN' BANKS
>>
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>>154905053
>>154904981
STEP IT UP

Also
>No reprint on urgent
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>>154905053
Good shit desu
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>>154905073
How come V-Jump gets a promo every single month now?
It used to be something that only happened a few times a year. And the promos were always anime or manga cards.
>>
>>154905072

>Aratama/Nikitama are a +2 draw engine that can xyz for rank 4

AAAAAAAHHH
>>
>>154905072
>Draw a card every time you summon this

FUCK
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>>154905170
Dunno, but I want a fucking Blue-Eyes promo that's actually good
>>
>>154905019
>monster effect targets
Es mierda
>>
Fuck this spirit card goes well with Blue-Eyes
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>>154904603
>>154904862
>summon Ritual
>set Urgent Ritual Art
>EP, Hikakujo return, leaves tributes target
>free Urgent Ritual Art on opponent's turn
Oh, god.
Free return 6 card.
>>
>>154905207
I don't think it would draw when IT was summoned, though.
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>>154905123
>it recovers owls that you can summon to use the effect to fuse for 500 life points so it also outclasses cat
So then what the fuck was >>154903957
> Octopus recovers dead Owls that means it recovers dead Polymerizations

I don't think you typed that out very well if you meant to day that you're going to use recovered owls to replace polys instead of recovering dead polys.
>>
>>154904224
RATE-JP072 Espirit Healing
Continuous Trap Card
You can only activate 1 effect of “Espirit Healing” once per turn.
(1) If a face-up Spirit monster you control is returned to your hand while this card is in your Spell & Trap Zone: you can target 1 card the opponent controls; destroy it.
(2) When an opponent’s monster declares an attack: you can banish 1 Spirit monster in your Graveyard; negate that attack, then end the Battle Phase.
>>
i never abandoned you
>>
>>154905202
>>154905207
It doesn't count itself, so you have to summon something while this is already on the field
>>
>>154905257
yeah, I didn't word it well, sorry
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>>154905126
Shut up, Shinji.
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>>154905271
Nice picture
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>>154905267
None of that is "healing"
if this isn't fixed in the TCG release I'm boycotting this deck
>>
>>154905271
>Cannot be Normal or Special Summoned

How do you get her on the field again?
>>
>>154905015
---monster effect---
1 tuner + 1 or more non-tuner WIND monsters
(1)Once during either player's turn you can target one monster your opponent controls; until the end of the turn, that target's attack becomes 0 and it's effects are negated.
(2)same as every other pendulum hybrid (scale it when it's destroyed)
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>>154905267
Slow, weak, not searchable.
You people will overhyped any fucking garbage.
>>
>>154905267
>All that S/T destruction at the end phase
>No limit on it
>Plus Valk

Seems pretty good. They should have a spirit you can return any time.
>>
>>154905357
normal set
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>>154905357
normal set
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>>154905290
gonna need a ruling for this, because it doesn't have the "other" part
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>>154902407
I love Ghostricks
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>>154905167
>>154905162
Fuck. Am I forced to buy this now to prevent a raise in price?
>>
>>154905386
It has to already be on the field for it to go off. Why would you think otherwise?
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>>154905373
1st effect specifies 1 monster Special Summoned from the Extra Deck.

So basically, Nekroz Clausolas BUT NOW A SYNCHRO!!!!
except synchro are dead fuck off konami
>>
>>154905378
>>No limit on it
>You can only activate 1 effect of “Espirit Healing” once per turn.
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>>154905240
>>154905290
I assumed it was like Stickchair, but alright. That's still pretty good. Normal summon that, Ritual Summon for the level 8, summon another copy and draw a card.

If they REALLY wanted to fuck up and break the archetype they'd print a level 4 Spirit Ritual with an effect on summon, not just on Ritual Summon.
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>>154905015
It requires a WIND non tuner.
It's shit.
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>>154905386
are you retarded?
>>
>>154905431
They're like a dollar so there's no way it can go down substantially right now. So it's either 3 dollars now or potentially getting fucked later.
>>
>>154905290
The ritual cheats Ara/Niki or Kanna out so you can only miss out on one of the draws if you summon the birb last, otherwise you'd be summoning something while she's up
>>
>Targeting is bad
Why is this a meme? Dark Destroyer is at 1, isn't it? What else cares about targeting, fucking Chaos Max Dragon?
>>
Clear Wing Fast Dragon
WIND
Dragon/Synchro/Pendulum/Effect
Level 7
2500/2000
Pendulum Scale 4
1 Tuner + 1 or more WIND non-Tuner monsters
Pendulum Effect:
(1) You can send 1 "Speedroid" Tuner monster + 1 non-Tuner monster you control whose Levels equal 7 to the Graveyard; Special Summon this card from the Pendulum Zone. You can only use this Pendulum Effect of "Clear Wing Fast Dragon" once per turn.
Monster Effect:
(1) During either player's turn: you can target 1 face-up monster the opponent controls that was Special Summoned from the Extra Deck; its effects are negated, also its ATK becomes 0. These changes last until the end of the turn. You can only use this effect of "Clear Wing Fast Dragon" once per turn.
(2) If this card is destroyed by battle or a card effect while in a Monster Zone: you can place this card in your Pendulum Zone.
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>>154905386
Continuous effects only apply whe a card is face-up on the field. By the time that card is face-up on the field, its summon has already ended, so it won't trigger the effect.
>>
>>154905015
>kill synchros
>reveal new synchro in the same issue
>nothing yet to replace Level Eater as the important tool it was
>>
>>154905456
>Crystal Wing requires a synchro non tuner
>It's shit
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>>154905015
>>154905019
>Stealing my thunder
>>
>>154905513
GARBAGE
>>
>>154905015
>>154905513
>requires non-generic mats
>pendulum effect only summons it back on the field under specific conditions
>effect is hard OPT
>only works on shit summoned from the extra deck
>targets
>opponent can still respond to it (so much for FAST Dragon)
>>
>>154905453
Yes, but it's "one effect per turn", not "one effect, and only once that turn", so you can do the one you choose as many times as you like.
>>
>>154905513

SPEEDROIDS + WIND WITCHES META

MOTHERFUCKER IS BASICALLY NEKROZ OF UNICORE ON STEROIDS

>>154905569
>>154905553
>Crystal Wing for any extra deck monster is bad

LOL
>>
>>154905373
>WIND monsters
Oh well.
>>
>>154903282
>>154903218
>Slot 42
So what will slots 40 and 41 be?
The WW fusion and Ancient Gear Chaos Giant?
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>>154905513
>Scale 4 on top of trash effect
Nope.
>>
>>154905495
purple dante, ultimeme, every single majespecter, leo, azure, march, sky iris, mound
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>winged beast

???
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>>154905495
Spirit dragon, it can dodge targetting, but without targetting, you can hit whatever comes out.
>>
QUICK
LIST ALL OF THE GOOD GENERIC RITUAL OR SPIRIT SUPPORT
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>>154905615
41 is I think Brave-Eyes
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>>154905691
Cloudians
>>
>>154905668
also dragon spirit, which is the same but different
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>>154905495
:^)
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>>154905585
>1 effect of X, once per turn
Yeah, anon.
I think it means you can have multiple of it, and makes each of them destroy 1 S/T. But only once for each of them.
>>
>>154905665
It's almost like we don't have 3 archetypes of bird cosplayers that are all winged beasts.
>>
>>154905705
Brave-Eyes is 39
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>>154905713
Dragon Spirit is flat out immune to Fast Dragon
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>>154905767

At least they were cosplayers.
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>>154904981
>>154905053
>>154905162
>>154905167
>>154905691
>>154905665
>>154905237
>>154905431
>>154905487
>>154904862
>>154904812
>>154904673
>>154904604
>>154904603
>>154904267
>>154904224
>>154904161
>>154904146
>>154904101
>>154904045
>>154904031
I think I got a little to excited....

T-this will s-surely spike to at least $3000 r-right??
>>
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>>154905691
Urgent Ritual Art is the best for Hikokujaku.
>Monster leaves on EP
>leaves free tributes when leaves the field
>Urgent Ritual Art can use Ritual Spell from grave
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>>154905815
R34 where?
>>
>>154905668
>>154905637
That is a lot actually, but how is targeting automatically a bad thing? Castel, Diamond Dire and Big-Eye all target.
>>
>>154905798
I was saying dragon spirit can dodge targeting just like spirit dragon can
>>
>>154905843
YOU
LUCKY
BASTARD
>>
>>154905843
THERE'S NO FUCKING WAY
>>
>>154905843
If this is legit, you may have just singlehandedly raised the price.
>>
>>154905843
Mr. Monoply going to bank
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>>154905860

Do not lewd the luscinias
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>>154905815
Are we getting these things in this set?
>>
>>154905843
You're fucking retarded. How are you even gonna sell that many easily?

I only picked up 14 because any more would be hard to sell offline. I guess you could do it online but unless you're a vendor, you aren't gonna have an easy time doing it. Who knows though maybe I'm retarded.
>>
>>154905873
All those 3 have something that Fast Dragon doesn't.
Actually, 2 things, think long and hard about what is it.

They're generic and their targets aren't restricted to extra deck monsters
>>
>>154905873
we use those guys because we don't have non-targetting destruction, spinning, and change of heart from our xyzs

it's making the best of what we have
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>>154905843
Don't do this to me, anon
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>>154905513
WHY IS IT NOT GENERIC
>>
>>154905843
>one jackass from /dng/ ruined the card game economy
W O W
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>>154905843
>>
>>154905553
>>154905569
ultimaya
>>
>>154905983

>he seriously wants a generic Nekroz of Unicore for ABC decks
>>
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I'm so tired of birds and bird cosplayers
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>>154905843
SONNA BAKANA
>>
>>154905948
I could see him selling quite a few on, say, ebay if he just chunked em down at a competitive prices. Two listings, one for each.
>>
>>154906009
>Unicore
Clausolas
>>
>>154906009
What's wrong with wanting good cards for good decks?
>>
>>154906005
If you have Ultimaya and summon Fast Wang over Crystal or Void Ogre, you might just be retarded.
>>
>>154905843
You FUCKING madman thank you
>>
>>154905843
Post the bank transaction and/or Paypal transaction or I don't believe you.
>>
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>>154906005
Oh. Right.
Goddamnit.
It can even hit those BA and Monarch hiding behind the chain links.
>>
>>154906041

oh, right
>>
>>154906060
What's wrong with not wanting good cards for good decks?
>>
>>154906074
>opponent controls an xyz
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>>154905843
NOW CLEAR OUT TCGPLAYER
IT'S CHEAPER THERE
>>
>>154905996
>filename
Delete
>>
>>154906160
nu
>>
Can you synchro/xyz summon face up synchro/xyz monsters?

Don't think ultimaya would care either way though
>>
>>154906074

yeah, because Void Ogre and Crystal can surely run over an opponent XYZ or Utopia the Lightning... Fast Dragon can do that and also act as stun afterwards

You can also summon both, you know
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>>154906060
>What's wrong with wanting to push this already fantastic deck over the edge into obscenely unfair?
>>
So, other than the next Jump promo, that's it for news, right?
Not a bad month.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbtdWAOMirE
RIP IN PEACE SYNCHRO
2008 - 2016

Press F to pay respects.
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Can you SS Clear Wing Sanic Dragon from the pendulum zone if he wasn't summoned according to his own procedure? Like if you Ultimaya out a Crystal Wing and it dies, you can't Soul Charge it obviously
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>tfw you load up a playset of all of the good ritual and spirit stuff in tcgplayer
>total is $30
>hesitate to buy
i can't escape this mindset. but spirit rituals is too tempting.
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>>154906239
Fair decks are boring
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>>154906251
Synchro died for a while back around 2012, it'll come back again. Just like Stardust always does.
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>>154906074
>>154906005
Ultimaya will be hit someday, won't it? It's not necessarily difficult to summon, yet it can pump Crystal Wing, Void Ogre, Moonlight Rose and now this new fucker.
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>>154906317
No, you can't.
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>>154906251
Only synchro masturbation died.
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What's the best way to play Ancient Gears anyway?
Rank 4 spam abusing Wyvern and Geartown? The tribute bosses seem weak.
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>>154906321
You sound like a fun guy.
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>>154906319
Buy it, if you regret it later, just sell it for a profit. If you wait, the price will go up once Americans start waking up.
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>>154906390
lmao you're never gonna actually tribute summon the beatsticks
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>>154906345
Who is this cutie pie?

>>154906317
Nope.
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>>154906438
But then they don't get their effects? Why even run them?
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Fuck this
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>>154906438
I occasionally tribute summon Reactor Dragon by tributing AG Gadget while Geartown is out.
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>>154906246
Now on my to-do list
>finding whether pic related targets
>waiting for percy updates to abuse that Spirit Ritual
>find a way to cheat out new Pendulum Xyz to field for free scale 1
>Crystron Shiranui with the new Trap
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Speedroid Pendulum
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>>154906489
>speedroid pendulum
wat
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>>154906476
reactor pops your geartowns and enemy backrow, and golem is fusion fodder for ultimate golem
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>>154906476
I don't think you do. I think it's Gadjiltron and Golem from what I've heard. Either that or the new dragon that destroys a s/t and golem.
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>>154906528
from the mango
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>>154906503
>select
It targets.
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>>154906528
manga
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>>154906489
>>154906512
Next V-Jump promo, right?
Any news on the Valuable Book?
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>>154906476
They get their Armades effects, and in Reactor's case, it also has its S/T popping
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>>154906360
>>154906453
Why not?
It's not treated as monster in Scale, and Nomi ruling only affect monster, I think. Or card in grave and banished card.
Is there some official ruling about this?
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>no Kaiba promo for BE or ABC

>more SR shit

Fuck this
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>>154906586
You can't summon a monster that wasn't properly summoned by its own procedure first period
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>>154906476
Reactor still pops an S/T so you can combo with Geartown or Fortress. It and Gadjiltron Dragon are still 3k Armades.
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>>154905637
>azure, march
Azure lasts for 2 turns and no one plays fluffals

>sky iris
Only protects scales.


You're memeing, admit it
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>>154906572
>Vjump isn't blue eyes related

FUCK
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>>154906594
Really man? Those decks aren't meta enough for you so you need more?
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>>154906586

Because non-properly summoned extra deck monsters remember that condition

the same if you tried to COTH a synchro monster you cheated with Ultimaya
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So pretty much only the new Spirit cards look promising. Everything else was meh to straight out garbage. Better VJump than last one but that's not saying much. Hope the next one is better. I was expecting more Fusion Enforcers and Dimension Box.
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>>154904045
>>154904031
>>154904101
(1) Tribute monsters from your hand or field, and/or banish Spirit monsters from your Graveyard whose total Levels equal the Level of the monster that will be Ritual Summoned or more.
Ok, so you can Tribute whatever you want from hand/field, the banish from grave is the only thing that HAS to be Spirit. So this is fucking amazing.
>>
God what a shitty set of V-Jump spoilers.
Only Ancient Gear shit is sorta salvageable.
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>>154906648
There is no such thing as "meta enough"
I want a degenerate one deck format
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Would you look at speedroid's censored parts, /dng/?
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>>154905843
What would they even mail this in. Please post pictures when this comes in the mail.
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>>154906684
What about Spirit Rituals?
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>>154906659
>>154906640
That's kinda the point.
Scale isn't a monster.
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>>154906648
Well ABC is fine but Blue-Eyes needs a new weapon.
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>>154906731
Nothing about them feels consistent beyond being Pre-Prep targets.
I need to see the other cards.
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>>154906740
If the pattern holds, we should get new BEWD support in the set after Maximum Crisis.
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>>154906643
march of the monarchs
and besides do you actually think you'll be able to stall out an otk deck for your turn and their turn?
and also why would scales not count? if tiaramisu targeted she wouldn't be able to spin two scales, and because twin twister does, it can't pop two scales
did you think before making your post?
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>>154906561
But Hane-Hane doesn't targets.
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>>154906807
Yeah I know but Yugi got Delta and Mana so I was hoping Kaiba would get something after how shit Krystal Dragon was.
>>
One archetype of cosplayers
And one ritual archetype

Konami wants the Nekroz audience back.
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>>154906826
This was one of my first salt-inducing cards.
>>
>no Zodiacs
>no Lackluster Soldier
Tjere are gonna be some long 3 weeks
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>>154906735

It is a monster if you want to summon it

so for all purposes you can't
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>>154906826
HQ picture.
Sorry.
>FLIP: Select 1 monster on the field and return it to its owner's hand.
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>>154906572
>Any news on the Valuable Book?
In previous years it would have been announced a month ago. Looks like we just aren't getting one this year.
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>>154906915
Eh not really. Now that VJump is done with Raging Tempest we're gonna get all the rest of the leaks through Twitter pretty quickly.
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>>154906937
I don't know.
I always think that it only becomes a monster on summon response window.
And why would a Spell remember how it's summoned before?
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>>154906823
Most azure plays have people going into azure on the opp's end phase just so they can get the SP summon, not for the protection. Sky Iris and scales are almost never relevant to what the card is targeting when someone mentions how irrelevant targeting is. It's just a hold over from kozmos era.
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>>154907013

because the rulings for Odd-Eyes Rebellion Dragon already say so
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>>154907052
>Most azure plays have people going into azure on the opp's end phase just so they can get the SP summon, not for the protection.
Maybe, just maybe anon, it's because you don't need azure protection most of the time.
When opponent summons ABC, of fucking course they'll float into azure.
In case they need the protection, of course they'll float into it.
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>>154904031
>>154904045
Just a remninder that Ritual Yuya is the final boss
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>>154907013
Semi-nomi monsters can't be summoned if they're not properly summoned first, no exceptions.

>>154906183
No. yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Odd-Eyes_Rebellion_Dragon
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>speedroids get a RotA, a marauding captain that also mills, and another good level 7 synchro
I'm satisfied
As long as TCG doesn't immediately hit Terrortop.
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>/dng/ arguing about something that we already have a ruling for

Some of you are seriously mentally deficient
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>>154907194
You're not living your life correctly.
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>>154907190
And maybe "targeting is bad" is just a meme and you're memeing hard as fuck.
>>
What else can we expect from Fusion enforcers. From the last two sets we got psyframes and quantum's
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>>154907317
I'm going to say Glads and Predator Plants
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>>154907317
A game original theme, and Gladiator Beasts because Battle Beast had a ton of hype around him.
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>>154907232
You know who blame if it ever does get hit
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>>154903178
this is actually a really cool card for rebellion.dek
otherwise, it's unusable garbage :D
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>>154907278
It is just a meme.
You're forgetting we're in /dng/ where most people here are dumb as fuck.
Strangely we're still better than most other sites.
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>Another VJump that doesn't live up to the hype
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>>154907232
Why would speedroids bother with this when they can spam Crystal Wing easier than anyone else?

Don't play bad cards for the sake of variety when you can win by just spamming one monster mindlessly
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>>154906419
I know anon, but Manju alone is like $5 per copy in canadabux and there's no rationalisation i can come up with to drop $15 for a playset.

Fuck.
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>>154907498
>not just summoning both
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>>154907498
Except Dragunity.
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>>154904603
decent card, we might see it top team tournies IF YGODR EVER FUCKING UPDATES AGAIN
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>>154907317
>Pendulum vanilla Fusions
>Union Contact Fusions
>Accel Synchros
>Gemini Xyz
>Spirit Rituals
I don't know really, Konami has been playing mix and match with new archetypes and their playstyles.

Maybe some dumb shit like an archetype that works entirely on using banished cards as materials.
Oh, and Parasite Fusioner and Crystal Bell/Independent Nightingale, assuming they aren't in RATE.
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>>154907526
Translating the comments on

http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/archives/48453718.html#comments

The Japs are saying the ritual is ridiculously strong, mostly because of Pre-Prep searching for 2 separate cards and the effect being non-targeting.
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>>154907241
You know what?
I'm going to use Slumber to destroy your ABC and Gear Gigant X and summon Gameciel to your field, and Jizu to my field, with Rivalry of the Warlord face-up in the field.
I'm also going to float my Farmgirl into Destroyer with Rivalry of the Warlords face-up in the field.

You can't stop me because both is legal.
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>>154907498
It's also good against xyz's.
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>>154907662

that's different and you fucking know it
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>>154907586
Don't forget Underworld Resonance - Synchro Fusion.
I really, really hope it's printed, and no change at all, except maybe hard OPT.
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>>154907662
>I'm going to use Slumber to destroy your ABC and Gear Gigant X and summon Gameciel to your field, and Jizu to my field, with Rivalry of the Warlord face-up in the field

Kaijus are so fucked as an archetype
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>>154907460
It revealed a new (seemingly playable) archetype of an old mechanic that we didn't know was gonna be a thing until these spoilers.

Did you really think they're gonna reveal the (at most) 3 cards BLS is gonna get? Cause I was sure those are gonna be reserved for Twitter considering how few they are.

And Zodiacs will have their own event where we'll be able to see their cards anyway, so I'm glad they didn't use this month's VJump space on them.
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>>154907856
They didn't show Dimension Box or Fusion Enforcers. I don't care for a shitty SR promo either.
>>
LEVEL EATER DID NOTHING WRONG
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>Snake Rain exists so Reptiles can never be good
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>>154907938
>the 2nd theme of Fusion Enforcers
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>>154907856
>Zodiacs have their own event
Say, does Metal and Crystron also have their own event?

I'm trying to figure out which one is the Metal/Crystron of RATE.
One is EARTH Xyz, the other is WIND Ritual, which is pretty much what's left from archetype that fight against Dracoemperor/True King/Fuhrer.
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>>154908078
Cryston did.
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>>154907991
Reptile Pendulum.
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>Gateway is unlimited
>Even though they can shit out Evilswarm Ouroboros 3 times first turn Six Samurai will ammount to nothing because it's inconsistent as fuck even with Gateway at 3
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>>154907991
>Denko, Mustang, Lightning Rod Lord, and Rai-oh exist so Thunder can never be good
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>>154907938
>Fusion Enforcers
They showed 2 :^)
Your own fault for expecting them to focus on stuff that will be released much later instead of the stuff that's gonna be released next month.
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>>154908180
They showed more shit from Destiny Soldiers when it first appeared in VJump than Fusion Enforcers. Konami was just being a stingy little bitch this time.
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>>154908124
>they can shit out Evilswarm Ouroboros 3 times first turn
Sure, in a build with 7 Kizan.
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Spirits and Rituals are being combined and Ancient Gears are competent....why is Konami choosing now to appease its playerbase?
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>Grand Mole is still limited
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>>154908243

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GPYUuMMMY0

it's inconsistent as fuck but the loop banishes everything on your opponent's hand and gets you a field with Shi-En + Naturia Barkion or Rafflesia + Naturia Beast
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>>154908146
>Atlantean Dragoons exists so Sea Serpents can never be good
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>>154908243
I don't think you understand how looping works

>>154908303
Shit man, zenmaighty is still banned in the tcg. Like fuck, why can't they just put it at 3 and ban hunter. Or not ban hunter, veiler and maxx c are so prevalent the hand loop may not even be that great still.
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>>154908093
So the Spirit Ritual is the Chem Beast/Triamid of the sets, huh.
Slim chance for more support then.
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>>154908390

nah, Hunter + Zenmaighty when Terrortop exists is pretty much a guaranteed 2-cards hand kill, just Foolish Burial + Terrortop

just ban Hunter
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>>154908420
At least it means they'll actually have good field spell that will help spirits instead of shitty ones the dracolore have.
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>>154908348
>Tenki exists so Beast-Warriors can never be good.
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>>154908348
>free RotA for Sea-Serpent
>Prince becomes 2 RotA
It's a good card, alright.
But can't do much if you somehow get a FIRE Sea-serpent archetype, or non-WATER Sea-serpent in general.
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>>154908124
It's just powercreeped to hell by this point other than retarded jank combos like Ouroboros looping. All it can really do is shit out S/T negation that easily gets beaten over nowadays with a side of mediocre Rank 4.
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>>154907991
>>154908146
>dante exists so that tour guide can never be at 3
>>
So is Hunting Hound worth running yet over just plain rank 4 spam?
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>>154908541
Just limit Dante, then Tour Guide can go to 3 for all I care.
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>>154908506

>ROTA exists so Warriors can never be good again

why is ROTA limited, again?
>>
>present card + droll and lock bird

This doesn't actually work like I think it does, right?
>>
What is the point of ancient gear devil
It's unaffected but it gets ran over by absolutely everything, and you can't boost its attack because its unaffected by your own cards
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>>154908498
Yeah, I mean, just look at all those Triamid Field Spell. They totally helps those Rock-type monster.

Triamid Pulse is MVP though.
>>
>>154908610
Tellars.
>>
For some reason I read Ancient Gear Reborn as a bad call of the haunted clone, instead of a Return of the Red Eyes type card
The no monsters requirement still makes me iffy on it
>>
Can we bring back Dinosaurs? All Dinosaur archetypes we got were trash.
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>>154908664
If only it had a effect that went off when your opponent is forced to beat over it or something.
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>>154908664
It's basically a "cure your dead hand" card. It's MEANT to get run over, you literally go -3 on it, dish out 1000 damage, and then get a free Golem or Gadjiltron after eating an opponent's attack since the Devil can't be bounced.
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maybe my brain is a little rusty with OPT continuous traps, but you'd be able to flip Gear Reborn, not activate it, and then chain it to Catapult targeting it to get 2 monsters sort of like hitting Geartown with Catapult, right?
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>>154908718
I was actually thinking more along the lines of Hangar and Spark Field, the ones that help Union and Gemini, monster sub-types like Spirit
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>>154908634
Just use this instead.
And make sure Droll & Lock resolves before you use it.
Or use Protector of the Sanctuary.
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>>154908794
>-3
It's a -1 at most
And why the hell would you still play Gadjiltron now
>>
>>154908779
>Evolzars exists so Dinosaurs can never be good
>Dragons forever ruined Dinosaurs
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>>154908847
Oh that's right HOUND DOGGU acts as a Poly.
And I dunno. I don't play Machines.
>>
>>154908794
>playing Gadjiltron over Reactor
Why?
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>>154908794
Kaiju ;^)
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>>154908864
>Treatoad exists so water can never be good again
Fuck
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>>154908864
Please. The game is so fucking power creeped that a deck that could consistently make double laggia turn 1 wouldnt even necessarily be tier 1.
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>>154908864
This also exist.
But it can get limited like RotA for all I care if Dinosaur actually get good archetype.
>>
>>154908943
Defense Mode ;^)
>>
Will Treatoad decks be able to stand up to ABC? What about metalfoe?
>>
>>154908972
Dolkka doesn't have OPT.
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>>154909035
Yes, Frogs and Frogozoic are pretty good
>>
>Pure Fish archetype never
>>
>>154909072
If they're good, then why aren't they meta?
>>
>>154909035
You'd think ABC would die hard as fuck to treytoad martin stealing their field spell but frogs only have like 10 tops in OCG, right?
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>>154909127
Because they're not as consistent, but still steal tops with about the same regularity as synchro dark, a deck that got hit on the banlist
>>
>>154909072
i miss calling them burger frogs
>>
>>154909205
I called them the Normandy.
>>
>>154909072
sorry what's frogozoic? I'm just getting back into the game

>>154909150
Isn't that because dark syncro is fucking everything though? I don't know how many tops ABC has, but dark syncro should have the most.
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>>154909119
Yeah, I want new way to abuse this guy.

Just to ask some question, if I summon Tuna with this guy, do I get to use her effect?
Banished card surely doesn't get affected by lingering effect.
>>
>>154909230
The current pecking order is ABC > Metalfoes > DD > Blue-Eyes > Dark Synchro
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>>154909229
>burgers
>frogs
>blue-eyes
>ww2
>>
>>154909230
dark synchro was barely rogue
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>>154909230
it doesnt lel
open gofu+warrior or give up
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>>154909119
>Aquaactress are literally fishes
>They're not Fish-type
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>>154909230

>dark synchro should have the most

HAHAHAHAHA, they were rogue tier at best

ABC is so powerful they started to top from day 1 after release, they literally have hundreds of lists on only 2 months

they're actually consistent at getting backrow that fucks over the other meta decks and Dragon Buster is a floater that allows you to make two rank 4s and float back into ABC again
>>
>>154909162
>as synchro dark, a deck that got hit on the banlist
What banlist?
That new banlist less than a day ago?
>>
How many Shiranui Style Synthesis should you run?
>>
>>154909289
>draw a bird
>make it a Beast-Type
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>>154909304
How are ABCs topping so much anyway? Dragon Buster is really not that strong, and rank 4s are weak as hell. They also run out of monsters in like 3 turns so they can't grind for shit, and they lose instantly to kaijus and cherry
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>>154909316
try reading the thread you blind faggot
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>>154909379
>not even winged beast
wow
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>>154905843
>Yfw it goes to 1 in an emergency list
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>>154909390
how do you play through 3-4 backrow + banish
>>
>>154909275
>>154909283
>>154909284
>>154909304
fucking kek, and here I was under the impression that hand loop was insanely consistent. Embarassing. What the hell is frogozoic though, trying to look it up
>>
>>154909390
rank 4s are castel and the lightning
and equipping monsters from the deck on player turn and opponent turn means you definitely don't run out

and buster, having a quickplay banish + discard outlet and being able to dodge targetting, is that strong
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>The fusion sets first leaks don't have anything from pic related.
Yuri bullying will never stop it seems.
>>
>>154909410
There's no Dark Synchro top with the new banlist.
And no, you can't say a certain deck is good because it got hit by the banlist.
>>
>>154909517
>Plants
>>
>>154909517
he plays gears now

predator plants were dead on arrival
>>
>>154909521
What I said was that Frog variants topped about as much as Dark Synchro does, and Dark Synchro was notable enough to get hit
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>>154909390
>Dragon Buster is not that strong

it's a 3k beater THAT YOU GET FOR FREE that banishes shit (the best kind of removal in the game at the moment) that becomes 2 rank 4's (double Diamond Dire Wolf to snipe backrow, Utopia the Lightning + Dweller to deal with floaters and over 3k shit, Gear Gigant to search for Cycle Reader or Giant Hand to stun even harder) and then gets back to field again

it dodges any kind of removal outside of Kaijus

If you can't see why Dragon Buster is that strong then you're retarded

and rank 4's aren't weak, the problem was that the only deck that could make it was an inconsistent mess that relied on drawing good traps
>>
>>154909467
Kill yourself.
>>
>>154909390
It's retard friendly.
Just ABC turbo via R4, set backrow, disrupt, float and more R4.
>>
>>154909562
Probably about some bullshit that Asuka is not deemed worthy enough for Yuri to play his own personal deck.
>>
>>154909390
also
>It loses to cherries

watch this video

>it loses to Kaijus

and those are inconsistent at best
>>
>>154909637
>Asuka is not deemed worthy enough for Yuri to play his own personal deck.
more like plants would get shitfucked by Cyber Angels
>>
>>154909562
Phantom Knights were nothing but a shitty trap and Speedroids didn't even exist for a while but they both turned out pretty fine. I don't see why it won't happen this time.
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>>154909708
>Galaxy Soldier
>Torque Tune Gear
Why are you all playing these garbage cards
>>
>>154909562
>he plays gears now

wait what?
>>
>>154909605
>Gear Gigant to search for Cycle Reader
You can even search Quarantine, and summon it if you summon GGX with pieces from floating ABC.
It's not a good plan though.
>>
>>154909708
>wins via Kaiju
Thank for for proving me right
>>
>>154909802
he's going to be dueling with an acient gear deck, probably to shill reactor dragon and "wow it looks just like odd eyes" since re-volt is out soon
>>
>>154909802
He's playing Gears this Sunday mostly just to shill the structure deck. But he's dueling Yugo in a few episodes and will probably go back to Predator Plants since they want to do Clear Wing vs Starve Venom.
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>>154909860
>But he's dueling Yugo in a few episodes
I thought Yugo was kill
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>>154909708
>open 2 cherry
Brick, but workable.
>Pot of Duality
>Cyber Dragon
>Discard cherry with TT instead of A for ABC next turn
What a shitter.
>>
>>154909770
>now I'm the one playing Galaxy Soldier
you're a fucking retard

>Torque Tune Gear is "garbage"

sure thing, anon
easy Omegas and Stardust Sparks that fullfill a role that nothing on the rank 4 toolbox fullfills are "garbage"
being able to tie with Majesty's and Vanity's Fiend and crash with them is "garbage"
being able to synch and plus like a madman is "garbage"

>>154909835
>wins via kaiju

you didn't pay attention to the fucking video you fucking retard

I kept up with other ABC deck even though he banished all of my Dragon Buster and I was already on the process of getting them back through Omega + Emeral

The Kaiju just made the proccess faster
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>>154909898
he revived himself with fag blade
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>>154909947
>easy Omegas and Stardust Sparks that fullfill a role that nothing on the rank 4 toolbox fullfills are "garbage"
Why would you run a card you don't even need to win and that makes your deck less consistent?
Don't make your deck do more than it needs to.
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>>154909943

yeah, he was a shitter, that's the reason I'm posting this

people think that Reaper is this autowin button but don't realize that ABC still have Tsukuyomi and a shit ton of backrow

they may not be able to spam rank 4's as easily without Dragon Buster, so they basically become Tellars. So still very playable.
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>>154909708
Goddamnit, speed up your webm.
It's so fucking slow and not even that impressive.
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>>154910024
>I win against a baby that have a fully-loaded gun
You think this is a good point?
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>>154910014
>makes your deck less consistent

it's a fucking 1-of on a deck that can search for unions on the drop of a hat, recover them from grave and equip them

>You don't even need to win

Didn't you fucking read, retard? I need it to win with Stardust Spark + Vanity's Emptiness

I need it to win when ABC Dragon Buster gets banished with Cherries

The build is standard stun and I have about 7 deck spots that I can use to adapt to meta

So yeah, Torque is my answer to meta

>>154910041
>I-it's not even that impressive

I didn't want to impress you, fucktard, the point is that Cherries isn't an autowin button
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>>154910159
Have fun losing games to drawn TTGs then
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>>154910127

I never said that winning against him was the point of the fucking webm you fucking fucktard, READ, READ READ

I know we're on /dng/, "not reading central", but I specifically said that the point of the webm was that Cherries wasn't an autowin button

>>154910203
Has never happened, but you can make the same argument for every fucking card, fucktard

>Have fun losing games when you draw Pot of Desires from Pot of Desires
>Have fun losing games when you draw Dimension Boundary against Kozmo/Stun Monarch
>Have fun losing games to drawn Anti-Spell Fragrance against Phantom Abyss
>Have fun losing games to drawn Photon Thrasher mid-game
>Have fun losing games to drawn Buster Drakes when you're topdecking

see how your retardation applies to every card?
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>>154910159
>I need it to win with Stardust Spark + Vanity's Emptiness
Emptiness already win you games, with or without Spark.
Spark to protect Emptiness is winmore.
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>>154910331
>I never said that winning against him was the point of the fucking webm you fucking fucktard, READ, READ READ
>I won against a baby that has fully-loaded gun
>that means gun is not dangerous at all
Yeah, a good argument you have there.
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>>154910159
>I didn't want to impress you, fucktard, the point is that Cherries isn't an autowin button
Then fucking speed-up your webm.
You're wasting everyone times here.
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>>154910361

>Spark to protect Emptiness is winmoar and Emptiness already wins you games

so you're saying that the toppingBlue-Eyes decks using Spark with Emptiness are winmoar

so you're saying that you know more than the people actually winning a 386 persons tournament

are you seriously this retarded?

>>154910418
Yeah, anon, and Cherries also totally destroys Phantom Abyss so hard that it phased Dante out of meta

oh, wait, it didn't.

Just don't come crying here once you have the ABC cock up your ass
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I can't believe AG are finally fucking viable at least. I have been waiting for this since GX first episode goddammit.
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>There are people
>Currently on this thread
>That think that ABC is weak and "l-lol, dies to Cherries and Kaiju" is going to make ABC less of a threat in TCG

I remember that you fuckers said the same retarded shit to try to deny that Blue-Eyes would be meta and here we are

/dng/ is so fucking stupid
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>>154910576
>I can't believe AG are finally fucking viable at least
1. They aren't
2. They are just another rank 4 cookie cutter deck with a different coat of paint
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Accel, will Frightfurs and Fluffals spike now that they have more support coming? I already ordered the SpiRitual support but I'm not sure if I should wait or not to order Fluffs since a lot of their cards could get reprinted in Fusion Enforcerers.
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>>154908810
I think that works. Gear Reborn is still face up when you would summon so it should be ok.
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>>154910624
>Accel

anon...
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>>154910492
>Yeah, anon, and Cherries also totally destroys Phantom Abyss so hard that it phased Dante out of meta
>gun can't destroy metal wall
>therefore gun is not dangerous at all
Good argument.

>so you're saying that the topping BE decks using Spark with Emptiness are winmoar
You must be the one saying COCK in ABC is a must.
Should I point you to ABC tops that mostly doesn't run any TTG?
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>>154910610
Don't get me wrong, I'm saying they're playable not that they are rogue or to that extent. You also use the rank 4 engine to stall an gather pieces to go off with the fusions and the boss monsters, I'm happy with that.
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>>154910692
so you literally CAN'T READ

I already said that the build I am using is literally 39 cards stun ft Torque Tune Gear

does the mention of synchro trigger you so hard that you need to bring up irrelevant shit like Cockadoodledoo?

and your analogy is retarded as fuck because ABC are as much of a metal wall like Phantom Abyss would be

but sure anon, ABC totally get destroyed by Cherries
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>>154910752
>playing the fusions
kek
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>>154910797
no wonder you think it's just r4nk.dek
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>>154910898
>playing bad cards because "muh fun"
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>>154910797
All you have to do is play 1-2 dogs to have access to them, it's not like you're cutting off the r4nk engine. It's a petdeck, might as well have some fun.
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>>154910795
BE run Spark just like ABC run COCK.
Dropped like hot trash.
But surely that is too advanced for you to understand.

>ABC are as much of a metal wall like Phantom Abyss would be
Yeah, just like Kozmo is as much of a metal wall like Monarch.
They're two different deck, goddamnit.
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>>154910692
I bet you also think that the OCG lists playing Super-Polymerization ft r4 are bad because "n-not muh pure r4, w-winmoar!!"
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>>154910946
>playing yugioh because "muh fun"
maybe you should stick to helmet shit like tellarknights
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>>154910946

>Berating people for having fun in a game.
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>>154911015
Why would I play a deck that doesn't win?
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>>154910991
Pretty sure it meant for this >>154910797
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>>154911046
Because making r4nk is literally the only way to play that's simple enough for you
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>>154911046
Do you realize most petdeck shitters, myself included, play said petdeck on the side?
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>>154911046
So this is what meta only players become huh?
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>>154911046
>why would I have fun?
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>>154910986

>dropped like hot trash
https://ygorganization.com/09062016-ocg-japan-and-china-decklists/
>3 out of 2 blue-eyes topping decklists use Stardust Spark

https://ygorganization.com/ocg-09122016-ocg-japan-and-china-decklists/
>3 out of 4 topping blue-eyes decklists using stardust spark

>https://ygorganization.com/ocg-09122016-ocg-japan-and-china-decklists/
>14 out of 14 topping decklists running Stardust Spark

next time you try to talk like hot shit and say that "Blue-Eyes d-dropped Stardust Spark" try to actually look up the decklists, ok?
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>>154911101
I'm not biased towards rank 4, I just only play the best builds possible with no consideration for personal preference.
>>154911151
Winning is fun.
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>>154911046
Look, whatever makes you happy my nigga. All I know is in my opinion, copying a deck from some person online and playing it against other decks that people copied from other people online year in and year out is stupid as fuck. But you're on 4chan so you have to know what you're doing-- I support your happiness.
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>>154911046
Why would you pretend to know how to play Ancient Gears if you're only playing decks that win?
desu
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>>154911023
Why he is he so cute?
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>>154909708
>tfw you get double Cherry'd and still win
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>>154911282

Probably because you're gay.

>>154911249
Edgy
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>>154910986
>inb4 you say some dumb shit like >L-LOL, OCG DOESN'T MATTER!

2 out of 2 pure topping blue-eyes decklists use stardust spark

http://yugiohtopdecks.com/date/September+2016
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Running Torque, Cock, or Galaxy Soldier in ABCs is just flavourful preference. They're not trash and there's nothing wrong with using them but they're not necessary either. The reason most decklists in the OCG don't have them is because most people would rather run the straightforward build and win with what's tried and true. If any of the techs were trash they wouldn't show up in the tops at all, just like if they were absolutely amazing and necessary they'd show up in everything.

Quit being autistic as fuck and arguing about it.
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>>154911249
>there's only 1 way to have fun, MY way
>other way is invalid
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>>154911342
>being competitive is edgy
If you want to win, you have to learn to ignore what you "like" and do what you have to do.
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>>154911381
There is no such thing as personal preference, only correct and incorrect choices.
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>>154911387
But if you want to win, why would you play a ancient gear deck, regardless of the fusion/xyz ratio
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>>154911387
Honestly, I'd rather lose with something I like than win with something I don't like.
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>>154911218
>>154911374
Too early and too few decklist for it to matter.
COCK in ABC also have somewhat the same amount of tops when they first released.
See what happen to them?
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>>154911387

Or you can just nut up and get gud with what you like.
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>>154911218
The last link was supposed to be this one
https://ygorganization.com/ocg-08222016-ocg-japan-decklists/

>>154911485
>too early
you fucking faggot, the decklists are from SEPTEMBER AND AUGUST

Stardust Spark has literally been used in 90% of Blue-Eyes decklists

stop trying to compare it to Cockadoodledoo, you fucking faggot

can you now shut the fuck up now that you were blown the fuck out?
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>>154911387
Why the hell would you apply real life logic to a children cardgame?
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>>154911374
>>154911218
That anon is retarded, but there's still not that many people that tops run TTG in ABCs.
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>>154911446
I'm not insinuating that I ever would play that trash, but if you're even bothering in the first place you might as well play the deck in the least shit way possible.
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>>154909612
Don't bully her.
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>>154911593
I know, and I never claimed it was the best tech ever, it's just the tech I choose to use to counter at least YGOpro meta

who knows if I'll keep using it come november?

the shit that made me rage though was that he's seriously saying that Stardust Spark isn't used in Blue-Eyes and trying to pass it up as a fact even though decklists fucking contradict him

like, what the fuck is so hard about accepting that you're a fucktard that didn't do his research before talking shit?
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Ive been out of the loop. Why are Blue-Eyes using Stardust Spark?
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>>154911445
That's not true and wasn't even true last format. Extra Deck Monarchs had a million different engines you could play with and all of them more or less topped equally. You could have played Speedroids, Quantums, Brilliant Fusion, Quickdraw Tzolkin, even Cock. Or just stuck with Domain.

Even Pendulums have a large variety. Even variants of Pendulums have their own variety (Dracopals playing Strike with or without, for one example).

It's impossible for a deck to be "solved" unless it's just absurdly broken to the point where only one decklist consistently wins over all other variants, period. That usually happens with stuff like Nekroz or Dragon Rulers or full power EmEM.
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>>154911720
"Variety" doesn't suddenly make preferences matter. Variety only means that people haven't figured out the best deck yet.
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>>154911707
to protect Vanity's Emptiness or any important floodgate

you can get to it with a 2-cards investment and it's pretty worth it, so some people think that you can use it on ABC to the same effectiveness since you also only need 2 cards to make it and you float from the synchro play to top it
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>>154911796
Ok. But if you protrect Vanity's from the opponent once in a turn, itll pop when Spark dies in the end phase right?
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>>154911445
Except for Metalfoes and their Janky tek.
The choice includes
>Anteater
>Scout + Monolith into CDI
>Sloth
>Vanity Fiend
>Fossil Dyna
>Vortex Trooper
>Eccentrik
>Foucault's Cannon
>Terrortop + Take
>Rescue Rabbit
>Tour Guide + Sangan
And many more, which you can pick any combination of it based on your personal preference.
What, are you saying people still can't figure out what metalfoes really is after all this time?
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>>154911907
yeah, but you can banish Return from the Dragon Lords to protect it or try to get both Azure and Spark on field

you can also summon it on your opponent's end phase, protect it and use its protection from then on
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Pretty funny AG Devil had to have to be unaffected by everything and ignore summoning conditions to make battle floating remotely viable.
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>>154911907

They also run Moonlight Rose so you can sync for Spark instead of Crystal Wing if the situation calls for it
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>>154911578
>the decklists are from SEPTEMBER AND AUGUST
>last month and this month
Yeah. Too fucking early. And too few.
And banlist just dropped few weeks ago.

People also still using COCK in ABC for a month or two.
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>>154907317
>>154907367
Fluffal Octo is slot 14. That means the previous theme fills out 13 slots.
In order for Predator Plants to fill that, Yuri would need to play at least 8 new cards in his next duel after Asuka and all of his cards would need to be reprinted.
Gladiator Beasts could easily fill all 13 of those slots, a few new cards and a bunch of reprints.
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>>154911996
Metalfoes Gofu Cyberstein is the best variant though, it's the correct choice.
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>>154912173
Considering his duel with Yugo looks like it's going to be a two parter, I'm pretty sure Yuri can fill those 8 slots pretty easily.
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>>154912103
>banlist just dropped a few weeks ago
so you didn't even read the links and just assumed that the 21 blue-eyes topping decklists I posted were from TCG, not OCG, the one meta that has had Blue-Eyes topping for about 4 months

seriously, this is just getting sad. You're a pathetic dumb fuck that tried to talk shit without any research backing him up. And now you seriously try to say that only TCG matters.

How can anyone be this stupid and arrogant
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>>154912231
99% of them run Gofu, Kirin, and Stein. It's the core.
But they still fit in a few of janky tech here and there.
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From now on, let's remember r4 cuck anon as "Stardust-Spark tan". The one that kept saying that Blue-Eyes dropped Stardust Spark and when it was demonstrated that they didn't, backpedaled to say that TCG Blue-Eyes decklists would eventually drop it, because as we know, his word is the most important in all YGO.
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>>154912375
Fuck your forced memes, if you're gonna do it, use a shorter name like Sparkshitter or something, ain't nobody got time to type out Stardust-Spark tan
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>>154912267
>September and August topping OCG
You know what? Still too early. And now banlist also drops there.

And are you seriously putting words in my mouth? I thought the discussion is about how TTG and Spark is shit in ABC.
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>>154912375
>his word is the most important in all YGO.
But I am Kevin Tewart, your god in YGO.
For proof, I said a month ago that Kaiser Colosseum will get banned, but you all ignored me.
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>>154912375
>Stardust-Spark tan
Fuck off you stupid weeb.
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>>154912503
>backpedaling this fucking hard
>>154912456
yeah, I guess Sparkshitter works for r4cuck
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>>154902747
DAMNNNNN this is actually a good list, not much to get mad about. Sad level eater got hit but it's understandable though. It's one of the biggest combo enablers with synchro spam.
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>>154912585
If you're Kevin Tewart, can you tell us what Millennium Thousand-Eyes Virus does?
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>When posting webm
"Don't use Torque Tune Gear IT'S BAD AND YOU WILL LOSE"
>When saying that you haven't lost and Torque actually has multiple uses and has pretty much been useful as a 1-of
"You fucking shitter, I'm sure you also use Cockadoodledoo and synchros on what should be a pure rank 4 deck"
>when explaining to him to his rant about Cockadoodledoo of all fucking things doesn't make any sense
"Using Cockadoodledoo is as bad as using Stardust Spark in Blue-Eyes and that's the reason Blue-Eyes dropped Stardust Spark"
>When you show fucking decklists that demonstrate that Blue-Eyes didn't drop Stardust Spark at any moment
"D-doesn't matter because banlist just dropped today in OCG! D-doesn't matter because TCG only has 4 Blue-Eyes tops and I'm sure they will drop Stardust Spark even though there's no fucking evidence of it in OCG"

This is some insane troll logic
>>
Where are all the magician of faith can't come off the ocg list people? They seem to have disappeared.
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>>154912618
>moving the goalpost
I'm going to say that because you didn't capitalize your sentence and incorrect punctuation, that means you are a retard.
Because you are a retard, all argument you post is shit and wrong.

Now if only I can find that moving_goalpost.jpg
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>>154912860
I thought the argument is about Winter Cherry whether Winter Cherry kills ABC.
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>>154912743
Find out when INOV drops in TCG, because it's printed there.
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Teach me how to Subterrors. Do I really need to run Terrortop to turbo out Nemesis Warrior? It feels like a bad meme.
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>>154913009
That actually looks pretty decent. The problem with terrors is they just don't have enough cards. We don't even have any extra deck monsters from them.
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>>154912860
The original argument is about whether Winter Cherry kill ABC.
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>>154912940
That was another argument Mr. Tewart, and it was ultimately solved too.

Anon kept saying that Cherries killed ABC, even though Cherries has existed for all of ABC life in OCG and hasn't reduced their number of tops at all.

But somehow anon kept saying that Phantom Abyss, the deck that literally needs to spam 2 Dantes turn 1 to get anywhere, was somehow more resilient against Cherries than ABC, a deck that although hurt by Cherries banishing Dragon Buster, still has the same stun capabilities and Tsukuyomi hand refresh.
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Was there any word on when we get that Houkai card we are missing?
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>>154913061
>Say dumb shit
>Get BTFO
>T-the original argument was other! Even though it ultimately strayed into another area! I'm such a fucking winner, I totally didn't behave like a fucking dumbass
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>>154913043
Think we might get an Extra Deck monster? I feel like if the would get a boss monster it would have been in the first set. Im actually hoping for another Nemesis Monster, after play testing this deck a few times Ive noticed how busted he is, I honestly thought he was an unesseary -1 but the fact that he just keeps coming back and setting up those fields makes him pretty strong. I might pick the supers that come in the special edition.
>>
I didn't think anyone could be this much of a sad fuck but Sparkshitter surprised me; from his hot shit attitude, to his "I'm totally right and the way anybody else plays is wrong" to his "The original argument was other!" line.

Somehow he gives me vibes of the avatarfag.
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>>154913148
>original argument is about Ugly Loli
>now it becomes argument about OCG doesn't matter
Whose fault is that?
Which one backpedal? Which one moves the goalpost? Find out next in DBZ.
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>>154913284
Shit, you caught me.
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>>154913234
Well the levels are all over the place so you're probably right but still they could get indirect extra deck support.
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>>154913390
Hoping for some Ritual like support, if not a Fusion with a similar effect to Tarotrei
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Rate and hate.
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>>154913502
A fusion or ritual would be good for sending to grave. Now that you mention it i'm hoping fusion because we could get a quickplay and it could lead to some sick setups
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>>154913519
[UNSOLICITED COMMENTS ABOUT PALEOZOICS]
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>>154913519
>BTS
>2 Ronin, 2 Dupe
>3 Hallucigen
>0 Leanchoilia
>0 Rise to Full Height
>3 Anomalocaris
>2 F0
Try again.
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>>154913519
>filename is Frog
>only 5 frog and 5 toad
Disgusting.
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>>154913519
Add Shapesister for those sweet sweet synchro plays
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>(1) This card’s name is treated as “Shiranui Style Synthesis” while it is in the Spell & Trap Zone.

Huh? Why?
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>>154913680
>rise to full height over negation
get the fuck outta here.
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>>154913864
For solitaire purpose, of course.
It actually trigger Solitaire unlike the real one.
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>>154913864
Because Shiranui Solitaire has a second effect that nobody remembers.
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>>154913952
>prefer negation
>3 Hallucigen
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>>154913864
Because Konami realized that no one is ever going to use Synthesis
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>>154913989
So what's gonna be the proper ratios for shiranui now? 3 Solitaire 2 Unizombie 2 Priest 1 Swordsmith 1 Samurai 1 Sword, 3 Swallow 2 of the new trap? Then Mezukis, memesworns and shirayuki or whatever?
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>>154914063
I'm actually glad Konami realizes things like that.
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>>154914050
>recommends meme tech nobody runs
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>>154914157
I do sometimes wish they'd at least make the older cards worth running at all. Imagine if they made you not even play BEWD in Blue-Eyes.
ABCs pretty much telling you to not play the original XYZ trio by their card design still kind of stings.
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>>154914223
>use card nobody runs
And realistically
>playing deck nobody use
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>>154902459
God damnit, i just wanted a decent Rank 7, but this is the same shit as OERB.
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>>154914345
>yfw certain netdeck shitters starts to panic when they face a deck they've never seen before
>>
Every synchro and xyz monster should be generic.
Discuss.
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>>154914740
Generic is the cause of all problems. No thank you.
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>Ritual spirit
Absolute madman
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>>154914740
>Generic Ice Beast Zerofyne
>An even more Generic Nova+Infinity
Fuck that, XYZ is already cancer because of how generic it is, don't make it worse.
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>>154914740
There's nothing to discuss because you're objectively wrong.
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>You can dodge Drowing Mirror Force with Nemesis Warrior

This deck just keeps getting better and better
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>>154913519
what now?
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>>154915092
>playing denko
>in the year 2016
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>>154915092
Activate Canadia from hand.
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>>154902459
>>154902484
>>154903178
>(2) If this card in the Monster Zone is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can place this card in your Pendulum Zone.
Wait. It doesn't destroy your scales first?
So if you have a full scale you can't place it in the pendulum zone? And if you only have a low scale then it won't do you any good in the pendulum zone?

That sucks. OERD sucked what with it being scale 4 and all. But at the very least it had the right idea about making room for itself before hopping onto the pendulum zone.
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>>154915092
Treatise you dumb spic.
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>wake up
>no new Phantom Knights
Come on Konami
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>>154915092
Not going to pretend this doesn't slow down Paleozoic but they have a two boss monster that can deal with it.
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>>154915221
>Wake up
>was right about the new thing being XYZ
>It's just a shitty OERD retrain

This hasn't been the bestest of mornings.
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>>154914809
Don't forget triple non-targeting non-destruction removal. If only the ritual spell were a bit better.
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>>154905665
Well. It's a tengu isn't it?
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>Wake up
>Shitty new xyz that Yuya still can't use unless he does that thing with this shitty ass magician monsters

Doesn't konami realize how cluttered that method is? Just give him a rank 6 or 5 with a built in rank up effect if you want us to use his Hitsu ni xyzs. Nirvana High Paladin beats out both of them.
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>>154915160
>secret metalfoe counter
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Can someone explain to what Dark Synchro is? If I google it I end up with the anime version.
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>>154915590
>metalfoes
>relavent
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>>154915613
3 Lord Omegas + Void Ogre Dragon and an empty hand.
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>>154915376
My face when I misread
>(1) This card gains the following effects if an Xyz Monster is used as an Xyz Material to Summon this card.
as
>(1) This card gains the following effects if a Pendulum Monster is used as an Xyz Material to Summon this card.
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>>154915854
JUST GIVE US AN OFFENSIVE RANK 7 TO USE, I GET WE HAVE BIG EYE AND DRACOSACK BUT THEY'VE BEEN POWERCREEPED TO SHIT.

T. Red-eyes fag in denial.
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>>154915781
Surely you mean 3 Omega and a Trish.
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>>154915901
Sorry, if we did that Dragon Rulers would come back
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>>154915929
Nah because I also have a face-down Vanity's and an Ultimaya
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>>154915901
Big Eye is still good. But it's truth be told the only good R7 aside from Flare Metal (and Illusion Magician in Illusion decks since they're the only ones with normal Magicians). And Flare Metal is a terribly passive card.

Dracossack is hot shit. Damn that card just is not good at all. Almost hard to believe it ever was.
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>>154916045
The issue with Big Guy is that half the shit in the game is untargetable now so you often can't steal shit.
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>>154916045
We've come a long way when a monster that have OPT target destruction that also protect itself is considered shit.
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What would happen if Exciton was unbanned
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>>154916169
Nothing because Exciton is inherently a bad card.
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>>154916229
>Exciton is inherently a bad card.
stop this meme
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>>154916269
If you lose against a card that can only be used while losing, you're a shitter.
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>>154916169
I'd be sad and happy at the same time.
Sad because i've lost so many fucking games i was about to win because "Lmao 2 level 4's!!!" on the other hand it's a possible out to all these ultra unbreakable boards.
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>>154916298

That is literally the dumbest thing I've read here in like a month.
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Can we PLEASE fucking ban tripfags AND avatarfags?
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>>154916354
>it's a possible out to all these ultra unbreakable boards
If your ultra unbreakable board is broken by a single attempt to field destruction, you don't have ultra unbreakable board from the very start.

Volcanic have searchable quickplay raigeki and it's not even rogue.
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>>154905538
>>kill synchros
Synchros aren't dead. Synchrons are. Fuck Synchrons. They were unnecessarily bloated, taking forever to get anywhere. Poorly designed.
Meanwhile Speedroids can summon Quasar + support in like half the moves Synchrons did it in.

>>154905015
>>154905019
>>154905513
I'll gladly style on everyone with the new Fast dragon. The card should prove to be a great boost to the deck.
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>>154916650
>They were unnecessarily bloated, taking forever to get anywhere.
I want to say no but you're objectively correct here.
Still i'll miss the deck, The combo's where fun and the old school Drill Warrior synchron beat was fun as fuck. Quasar be damned i just want ot shit out a buncha Synchro warriors each turn.
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>>154916650
Well, if you count a deck with only Accel, Jet, and maybe Quickdraw, as a Synchron deck, then yeah.
Otherwise they're long dead.
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>>154916420
Shadow duel them if you want them gone so badly.
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>>154915401
>If only the ritual spell were a bit better
>usual tribute from hand/field
>can also banish spirit from grave
>searchable by pre-prep
What more do you want? Not exact level? tribute from deck?
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>>154917284
On one hand, I want them gone.
On the other hand, I don't want another Yami Kaiba.
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>>154903714
>>154903282
>(1) This card is unaffected by other card effects.
Does it have to be face up on the field to have this effect? Or does it ring true even in the graveyard?
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>>154902459
>>154902484
Why did they have to nerf them so horribly from the anime?
It's like they really don't want us to make Xyz summons using Xyz monsters. Yet they keep printing cards like OERD.
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>>154903714
Guessing you summon it with dog, burn for 1k, crash it and summon piston-legs dragon from its effect?
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When will Konami finally make new Synchron support?
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>>154917696
In like 5 years. After the HERO and Neo-Spacian support.
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>>154917765
>Neo-Spacian support.
Never gonna happen
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>>154917696
Level Synchron
DARK/Level 1/Warrior/Tuner/Effect/ATK 0/DEF 0
If this card is in your Graveyard: You can target 1 Level 1 or higher monster you control; reduce its Level by 1, and if you do, Special Summon this card.
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>>154917784
Fucking Magnets got support mate. They'll milk GX for all it's worth after they can no longer milk DM.
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>>154917845
>Can be dumped with Accel Synchron
>Can be grabbed off of Tuning
I know it's just Level Eater but as a tuner, but that's not half bad.
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>>154917869
Magnets got support because of DM nostalgia. DM nostalgia sells a lot more than GX nostalgia. And who says they can no longer milk DM?
If we get more GX-era cards, they'll focus on Heroes and ignore Neos.
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>>154917629
Giving Xyz monster an actual level might create a ruling nightmare somewhere down the roads.
I don't know why they nerf Creation/Xiangsheng though. Her effect doesn't seem that powerful.
Maybe Konami still think level manipulation is OP?
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>>154917845
>Tuner Level Eater
>can reduce level 1 monster to 0 level
What have you done.
Now CWSD is piss easy to summon.
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>>154917978
>And who says they can no longer milk DM?
Eventually they won't be able to. Sure they still can now, I never claimed otherwise. But you can't milk DM forever.
And after that GX will be the next best thing.
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>>154918119
>implying they won't skip GX support and go straight to 5d's
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>>154918119
Or maybe, you know, they'll milk the next series instead.
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>Clear Wing Fast Dragon can be summoned with Terrortop searching Red Eyed Dice in any deck splashing the engine
>Pendulum decks can resummon the thing over and over
How is this bad again, exactly?
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>>154917845
Hey that's pretty nice, it's also a tuner so it doesn't have the same Level eater shenanigans.
Now we just need 1 or 2 more strong non-tuner options for the deck or i'll have to go back to using "The Tricky" as a high level non-tuner.
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>>154918171
>skip GX support and go straight to 5d's
Oh lord. You don't really think this could ever happen, do you?
5d's is the poorest performing series in Japan.
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>>154917629

They had their chance in zexal
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>>154918265
wait really?
It really felt like the best overall.
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>>154917978
>>154918119
What DM themes haven't been milked yet?
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>>154918258
I'm going to laugh when Speedroid pendulums can't even pendulum summon Fast Dragon.
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>>154918228
B-because W-WIND MONSTERS WAAAHH!!
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>>154918228
Because dng is dumb and Ultimaya doesn't exist
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>>154918228
Because Terrortop is guaranteed to get limited in the TCG.
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>>154918390
Because it must be properly summoned if you want it to recur.
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>>154918354
The stigma is gone with Majespecter.
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>>154918458
But any deck running Ultimaya can use it to deal with Xyz monsters quickly
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>>154918228
What are the odds of the Speedroid pendulums being really good?
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>>154917696
Konami need to make better non-Tuner monsters
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>>154918546
>Kirin a level 6 Wind Monster
>Can summon CWFD with any generic level 1 tuner
>Is also a pendulum and can pendulum summon back CWFD were it to get destroyed
Like, I know that Kirin just got limited. But seriously. The people shitting on CWFD have no idea what they're talking about.
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>>154918554
>Clear Wing Fast Dragon
I can deal with it just fine thanks to Crystal Wing thank you.
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Shiranui need a level 10 synchro boss with an actually good effect
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>>154918554
What Xyz monster makes you summon FAST instead of CWSD?
LIGHTNING?
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>>154918326
I imagine the introduction of card games on motorcycles put a lot of people off
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HEROes need something to summon shit ignoring summoning conditions.
90% of their ED monsters are nomis.

Something like
Masked HERO Dusk Crow L4/DARK/Warrior/1200ATK/1000DEF
If this card is Normal Summoned: You can send 1 "HERO" monster from your Deck to the graveyard; banish 1 random card in your opponent's hand, face-down.
If this card is Special Summoned: You can make all "HERO" monsters you currently control are unaffected by other card effects, until the end of this turn.
If this card is sent to the graveyard as a Fusion Material Monster for the Fusion Summon of a "HERO" monster, or by a "Change" Quick-Play Spell card: You can target 1 Fusion "HERO" monster in your graveyard; Special Summon it, ignoring its summoning conditions.
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>>154918882
>HEROes need something to summon shit ignoring summoning conditions.
Nah fuck you. Heroes already fucked up one era with hundreds of shit cards and still get support to this day.
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>>154918734
>is not that generic
>Terrortop needs to normal Red-dice or use Take effect that locks you to only special summon WIND
>only negate monster effect in field
>target
Yeah, well, you can Pendulum it back, but I prefer my CWSD, thank you.
Definitely better than Clear Wing though.
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>>154918882
Just give HEROs an on-theme Quick-Play Super Fusion card that's an exact copy of Super Poly, only that it is restricted to HERO monsters. And perhaps get rid of the clause preventing people to chain to it.

Done. HEROs saved.
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>>154918882
>Let's make a fantastic card that answers all the deck's issues and makes it easily tier 1 by making it serve as a Foolish Burial, Lord Omega and a strictly better Ptolemayy while also making all HEROs Towers as well, on a level 4 body, that triggers its best effects on normal summon

Here's one for you too, CaCfaggot

HERO Player Wet Dreams
Quickplay Spell

You can activate this card from your hand or your Graveyard during either player's turn. If you activate this card and your Deck is a HERO deck, you win the match. If your deck is a non-HERO deck you lose the match.
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>>154919212
You sound exactly like the people that shat on Clear Wing. And look how that turned out.
That card is a beloved meta recognized card.
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>>154918760
That or any with more than 3k attack
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>>154919362

Or just give us super poly back. Japan gets it so why not us.

Norden can go.
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>Summon Fast Dragon vs vanilla Clear Wing
>target CWSD
>as a LV5+ monster is being targeted, and a LV5+ monster is activating its effect, CWSD can use either of its effects and destroy Fast Dragon
>Summon Fast Dragon vs Crystal Wing
>target CWSD
>as a monster effect is being activated, Crystal Wing can negate it and destroy Fast Dragon
>OR Fast Dragon is attacked by Crystal Wing, triggering the latter's effect
>Fast Dragon tries to respond to it by targeting it, monster effect is being activated, negating Fast Dragon's effect and destroying it

>on top of this, Fast Dragon's effect is a hard OPT and it's the only effect it has save for the standard placing itself in pendulum zone effect pendulum hybrids have
>and it's not generic like either CWSD
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>>154919629
>Norden can go

b-but, norden helps petdecks ;_;
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>>154919414
But what if I added one of those funky hard OPT conditions?
But not the Shadow Mist kind of condition.
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>>154919442
Really?
What meta deck use him?
Most of the time I just see CWSD, and occasional Moonlight.
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>>154919815
Mermailfags, it's time to go.
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>>154919464
Summon this instead.
And hardly any people go for 4-mat LIGHTNING, so you can easily kill him even with CWSD.
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>>154919938
yes mermails are the only decks abusing norden.. nigga you sou d retarded.
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>>154919629
I want to fuck Yubel
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Interesting thing to note:

BOSH getting reprinted in Japan, probably because of Shiranui support in RATE among other stuff

HSR being reprinted because of new SR +WW

Felgrand deck being reprinted because of ??? Maybe new generic dragon support?
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>>154919869
All kinds of decks use Crystal Wing. From DDDs, to Metalfoes. Blue-Eyes, or of course any dedicated Synchro deck.
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It really works.

Monster unaffected by other card effect is made affected to a certain effect, which then doesn't affect it because there's another effect that affect that certain effect.
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So what exactly warrants the Level Eater ban?

What Synchro archetype in the OCG does it even break?

Also, we will never get Cross Xyz, right? That shit would make the Odd-Eyes Xys Pendulums at least kind of decent.
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>>154920882
>So what exactly warrants the Level Eater ban?
The fact that Konami hates Synchros.
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>>154920882
Apparently a rogue deck with a card that helps it compete with the meta is too good, and they gotta keep shilling Blue-Eyes.
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>>154920882
It's more of a case of banning a problem card that was inhibiting card design.
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>>154920882
Level eater ban is retard it wasn't lighting up the charts. Hell the deck didn't even have that many tops Omega to 1 is all that need the hit.
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>>154920938
But Speedroids will be the new meta.
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>>154921089
Ban a card AFTER it causes problems, not this hypothetical bullshit
So fucking what if an actually good synchro deck torches the meta because of level eater for 6 months
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>>154920701
>DDD
I thought they prefer Alexander instead. Isn't DDD ED is too tight for situational card like this?
They'll go for Crystal anyway.
>Metal
Only a few deck use him. They prefer Moonlight, or Ignister.
And by few, I mean less than 5. Even Metaphys Horus see more play than him. And I'm not even sure how they summon it in Metal.
>any dedicated Synchro deck
Not meta.
I don't think even Dark Synchro use him. They just go for 3 Omega + Trish, with maybe Void Ogre and Abyss as an extra.

Is he a "meta recognized card"? Well, I don't think so.
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>>154921302
>They'll go for Crystal anyway.
But that's what I said.
>And I'm not even sure how they summon it in Metal.
Ultimaya.

But sure. Shit on Crystal Wing all you want. Perhaps I should dig up all the screenshots of people claiming the card would never see use due to how it required a Synchro monster as one of its materials.
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>>154921418
I thought we are talking about Clear Wing.
I even post the picture to clarify.
Now you're just stating unrelated fact.
Never mind then.
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>>154921704
Yeah you did post a picture of Clear Wing. And even said that most of the time you just see "CWSD". And since you posted a picture of Clear Wing I naturally assumed you were talking about Clear Wing.

But now as I re-read the reply chain. I actually notice that I have made a total ass of myself as well. Since I in >>154919442 apparently wrote
>the people that shat on Clear Wing
when I most certainly meant Crystal Wing.

Really. Their names are too similar. They are even abbreviated the same. Their names were a mistake.
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>all this new spirit support
What the God damn fuck? What do people here think about it? The trap is nuts
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Can anyone post a recent Mermail decklist? Last one I used was this one back in December
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>>154922236
Forgot to add, I don't mind using OCG cards since this is for online, but I'm still with the TCG banlist.
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>>154922236

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnJy2VZnJFU

This is about as recent as it gets.
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>>154922227
The trap is shit because it's a trap
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>wake up
>Konami makes ritual Spirits pre-prepable and urgent ritualable
fuckin wew m8, who is hype for spirit meta?

stock up on degenerate circuits NOW
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is it worth it to put Prime for Lightning to have two 5k attacks or is it just a waste of another r4?
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>>154922557

I think it's a waste, but if you have the room/reliable means to protecting your Hope then go for it.
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>>154922557
Depends on how much you need that extra deck slot.
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Why is Magic so much better than this convoluted shitfest of a game?
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>>154923383
It's not.
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>>154922557
I rather run 2 lightning with 2 utopia if i had space. Yeah you get two boost with prime but think about the state of the game as a whole with all these solemns and quick effect removal. You could breathe easy knowing you have a second in the extra if it does get taken out.
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>>154923383
Because the company is less shit than either KoA or KoJ.
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How is this looking? Is my extra ok, or should I cut the synchros for some Cherries targets? Also need help with the side
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>>154923383
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>>154923574
Shit, how did I get 2 lacia in there?
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>>154923574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9a0vFEbMZg
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>>154922483
>Degenerate Circuit
>banish your Ritual monster
>banish other Spirit monster you might run
>>
Is anybody else playing and finding Duel Links fun?
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>>154924357
It's to counter the spirits you genius
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>>154922236
>>154923574
This is what i'm running. I'm playing kaiju mermail to deal with the percy meta aka our upcoming one. Gets over ABC/Spirit Dragon/Treatoad/Mask Law and other problem cards. Slumbers are the "dark hole" the deck. Goyo is just here to be a beatstick to perfectly OTK if my opp has 1200 or less monster( aka racoon) on the field. It's pretty terrible defensibly and you want to go second most times but that's ok as the OTK rate for mermail is pretty high.

You're playing standard atlantean mermail. You don't need two elemental lord. The sharks are shit stop running it and acid golem is too situational. I personally didn't have space for anti spell but if you find it in your side good for you. I rather make room for current meta hate.
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>>154918265
This is no longer true.
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>>154924423
>opponent summon the Ritual
>banish all my card
Oh my.

As a side note, Spirit summoned by the Ritual monster effect doesn't return to hand.
Legacy of Yata, Fengsheng, and Settle Machine is a better side deck.
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>>154924446
Where did arc-V go so wrong?
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>>154924357
>>154924572
are you fucking retarded mate? if spirits are going to be meta (implying), then degenerate circuit banishes them when they try to bounce back to the hand. stop trying to be fucking edgy reccomending fengsheng mirror over d circuit
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>>154924692
building up a duel between the Yus and not doing it
carding Crow
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>>154924692
Episode 1, but at that point idiots in the western fanbase was happy to get anything that wasn't zexal so they decided to delude themselves about what they were getting.
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>>154924790
>carding Crow
but that was a good thing
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>>154924692
The writer being obsessed over the worst season, 5ds, and making 50 episodes of few things happening on it, it doesn't help the blue balling of episode 92.
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>>154924869
not in the nip eyes
bitches love him
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>>154924869
Have you forgotten why we have so many fucking Blackwings? The Japanese fanbase loves the shit out of Crow, so getting rid of him was bound to piss them off
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>>154924924
>>154925002
then fuck the nips
Based BB did something good, and they can go fuck themselves
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>>154924924
>>154925002
Nips just care about his cards, they also disliked the character, the problem is how the writer and director didn't realized that and made his character more frequent while giving him shit cards, besides Zephyros in 5Ds and Gofu in Arc-V.
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>>154925065
>"fuck our main audience"
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>Not even a decent card
>And that's before you realise it's unsearchable

We're never getting a reasonable way to search Rank-Ups, are we?
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>>154923421
MTG is literally better in every way. Dont kid yourself, Yugitard.
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>>154924698
From the leak, the one that most likely will make them meta is the Ritual Monster, which return your card to hand.
Unless you're running card that go plus when banished, Degenerate will hurts you more than it hurts them.
Also, Spirit returns in EP. Banished in EP won't hurt too much.
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>>154925210
No because that would make RR good.
>searchable soul-shave
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>>154924446
Nah, it's still true. Even with Arc-V Crashing.
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>>154925210
>>154925240

We got an extremely good fluffal card, without their usual restrictions.

There is hope
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>>154925236
God pre-PSCT cards are a mess
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>>154925210
RUM Satellite into Heart-eartH is skilly.
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>>154925378
current PSCT cards are a mess. Japan had the right idea by numbering effects since DUEA making it MUCH clearer to read.
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>>154925210
Phantom Knights have a pretty good seachable Rank-Up quickplay and they're not even a RUM based archetype
What the hell
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Will Chaos archetype be more relevant with BLS at 2?
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>>154925553
>Chaos archetype
spot the newfag
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>>154925528
>and they're not even a RUM based archetype

They're a rank-up based archetype.
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>>154925553
no. It'll just make it splashable in other decks that can shit it out.
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>>154925553
It'll be jsut as irrelevant but less shit.
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>>154925528
Blame Yuto for forgetting his RUM in his room.
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>>154925553
No because the Chaos archetype consists of 4 ritual monsters, 2 of which are vanillas, and 1 of said vanillas is Magician of Black Chaos
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>>154925528
And yet nobody runs the rank up because rank ups are inherently bad, even though Requiem is an absurd card
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>>154925709
>Phantom Knights RUM
>No Phantom Knights to RUM into
125 better have something good
Dark Requiem is still pretty good though
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>>154925613

It's >>154925613 :^)
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>>154925859
Really?
Because Ophion is a good card.
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Bootleg Burial.
Why did nobody use this again?
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>>154926490
Becuise banishing 5 was too much work.
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>>154926490
>5 or more
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>>154926521
>>154926529
For Infernoid and PK it's piss easy.

Which deck benefit from Burial?
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>>154926637
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>>154926490
Burial is a quick-play that can also be used on your opponent's monsters to fuck up plays that involve their banished
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>tfw denko starting seeing play again.
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>>154913064
>Cherries has existed for all of ABC life in OCG and hasn't reduced their number of tops at all.
If Cherries has existed for all of ABC's life, there's no way you could tell if it's existence "reduced" the number of tops. You would have to have a time where ABC existed but Cherries didn't to know that.

But that's just arguing semantics, you're right in that Cherries doesn't kill the deck outright. There's just no knowing how much more ABCs would have topped had it not existed.
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>>154926686
>used on your opponent's monsters to fuck up plays that involve their banished
Which is?
Most card with grave effect banish itself as a cost, and they actually benefit if you return it to grave anyway.

Well, able to pay some of the cost using opponent's monster is a big plus for Burial.
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>>154922115
You could say you weren't very crystal clear about what you meant.
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>>154914740
>Generic Chidori
>Generic Zerofyne
>Generic Ophion
>Generic Triverr
>Generic Void Ogre
>Generic Baxia
>GENERIC CRYSTAL WING

Yeah, no, fuck you.
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Can i be viable now?
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>>154928386
>Generic Dolkka
>Generic Laggia
>Generic Kali Yuga
>Generic Calamity
>Generic S0
I don't know how the last one works, but it would make for a very interesting style of deck.
"Don't play YGO".
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>>154928468
No.
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>>154926996
>Kozmotown/Strawman
>Leviair
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Hello I am wanting to play The Cardians of Flowers but I realize there is not all the cards already. Do you guys try it without the all cards? Is working or no? Do I wait for more of Venom?
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>>154928468
perfectly viable
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what sort of fucking magic do i have to put in my deck to open with fucking scales in metalfoes?
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